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The Vikings are 6-0! Sippy cup beer, Colts Recap, Lions Lookahead | TSH Ep. 161 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right. Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of The Skol Hop.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Evan. And I'm Austin.
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  Speaker 1: We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like
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  Speaker 1: drinking beer and talking about the Vikings. Yeah, we do.
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  Speaker 2: And even though I predicted correctly, somebody had a good
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  Speaker 2: idea to make a bet last week about the Purple Punishments,
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  Speaker 2: and I still had to spin the wheel.
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  Speaker 1: You made a bet. You followed through on it. I
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  Speaker 1: respect that. And you did great. And we got to
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  Speaker 1: use our new wheel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we did.
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  Speaker 2: And we also gave a good recap of the Colts'
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  Speaker 2: loss to the Vikings. The Vikings just keep winning, and
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  Speaker 2: it's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: 6-0, baby. We also took a look ahead at the
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  Speaker 1: Vikings' hopeful win over the Lions next week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty hopeful on that one. You'll have to
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  Speaker 2: listen to hear our overall thoughts of that game. But
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  Speaker 2: we also talked about some potential trades the Vikings could
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  Speaker 2: make before the deadline.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if they make any moves.
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  Speaker 1: Until then... Grab a cold one of your choice. Join
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  Speaker 1: us for episode 161 of The Skull House.
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  Speaker 2: Skull. Skull. Skull. Skull.
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  Speaker 1: Skull. Skull.
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  Speaker 2: Skull. Skull.
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  Speaker 1: Skull.
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  Speaker 2: Skull.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Austin, I don't know if you remember, but
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  Speaker 1: last week we said that regardless of what happened, we
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  Speaker 1: would spin the wheel of purple punishments.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as we were wrong with our preseason picks.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we were right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we don't have to spin the wheel.
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  Speaker 1: But we still agreed. Do we need to go back
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  Speaker 1: and watch the tape really quick?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, I feel like I had
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  Speaker 2: an idea, but then we were both just like, no,
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  Speaker 2: that's dumb. We shouldn't do that.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just watch the tape really quick. We have to
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  Speaker 1: follow through. We made a gentleman's agreement. Huzzah. But let's
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  Speaker 1: remind the viewer what we agreed to last week. Here
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  Speaker 1: we go. Oh, we have this new wheel. We do.
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  Speaker 1: And we should probably use it next week because that
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  Speaker 1: would be kind of fun. So what do you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, our predictions are pretty far off.
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  Speaker 1: I think plan A is if they lose.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We just spin it like normal and we both have
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  Speaker 1: to do the punishment.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Plan B... And hopefully plan B happens. The Vikings win.
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  Speaker 1: And whoever picked the farther away margin of victory, is
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  Speaker 1: that fair? I don't even know if that's fair because
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  Speaker 1: you picked a pretty far margin of victory and I
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  Speaker 1: picked a pretty close one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's almost like you're zero and I'm 100. So
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  Speaker 2: whichever ends up being more right, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do that. Whoever's less right has to spin the wheel. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: It's a really good thing we didn't shake hands on that.
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  Speaker 1: We did shake hands on it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: We did.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 1: But do you want to remind everybody at home what
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  Speaker 1: your score prediction was and what my score prediction was?
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  Speaker 2: So we both said the Vikings would win, and that's
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  Speaker 2: all that matters. But I did say, and I truly
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  Speaker 2: thought this, and this has been... Kind of morphed my
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on the team going forward. But I did say
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  Speaker 2: that the Vikings were going to break out. This was
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  Speaker 2: going to be the offensive explosion, finally, that we haven't seen.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it would be like a 31-7 victory for
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings. And you said?
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  Speaker 1: 20-17 was my prediction.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was much closer. It was 16-10, which is kind
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  Speaker 1: of a weird score.
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  Speaker 2: It is, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But the Vikings still won, which was good. We both
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  Speaker 1: picked that they would win. You just happen to be
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  Speaker 1: less right about the win. So that was pretty far off.
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  Speaker 1: And we have this new wheel. Yeah. That your coworkers
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  Speaker 1: gave you. Yeah. We got to spin this bad boy.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: You get to do the inaugural spin. Yay. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't we?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Just prop this up a little bit so
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  Speaker 1: everybody at home can see it. All right. So you
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  Speaker 1: don't flip it off when you, uh, when you spin it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll flip it off. Um, It's a little inside baseball.
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  Speaker 2: We have almost 24 things on the wheel. So we
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  Speaker 2: kind of came up with, I will flip a coin
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  Speaker 2: and that will determine which list I'm going off. And
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  Speaker 2: then I'll spin the wheel and that'll be the final
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  Speaker 2: determinant of what my punishment is.
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  Speaker 1: So we split the list of 24 into two. So
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  Speaker 1: we have 12 in one list, 12 in the other.
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  Speaker 1: If you Flip heads, you're subject to one list based
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  Speaker 1: on the number you spin. If you flip tails, you
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  Speaker 1: get the other list. If you flip tails, number 12
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  Speaker 1: on the tails list is I choose what you do.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Well, I don't want you to choose. Let's
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  Speaker 2: let fate choose. All right. I'm going to do this
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  Speaker 2: right in front of.
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  Speaker 1: You. There's no beer to let it take a swim
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  Speaker 1: in either.
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  Speaker 2: That's a heads.
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  Speaker 1: That's heads. All right.
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  Speaker 2: So now.
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  Speaker 1: Eat something spicy is on that list. Take it off
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  Speaker 1: the list for me.
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  Speaker 2: That's not too bad. I'm going to give it a
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  Speaker 2: good spin.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Ready? Looks like number eight to me, which
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  Speaker 1: is a sippy cup. You will be drinking your beer
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  Speaker 1: out of a sippy cup. All right. Great. Let me
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  Speaker 1: go get one of those quick. Tell us how you feel.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't feel too great. I think this
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  Speaker 2: is going to be Frustrating. It's going to be annoying.
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  Speaker 2: I think the biggest frustration is going to be... Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's fine. I can mess with Luke's clues.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay.
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  Speaker 2: I think the biggest annoyance... Maybe it's just going to
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  Speaker 2: be a series of annoyance. I was going to say
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  Speaker 2: he's pouring it in here. So I will move my
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  Speaker 2: awesome stein.
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  Speaker 1: And it will be... Don't ruin it.
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  Speaker 2: It will be replaced by blue over here.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, kids.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, so yeah, I, uh, what do you, do you
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  Speaker 2: think I just got to pour and then seal?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you have to, the lid has to be on.
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  Speaker 1: And then when you run out, you got to pour
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  Speaker 1: it again.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like this is going to quickly turn
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  Speaker 2: into like a geyser.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Is this open? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Do I have to twist it? Oh, your kids have
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  Speaker 2: left a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of good tooth marks on there. That's part of
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  Speaker 1: the punishment.
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  Speaker 2: There's a hairy hair right there. I think it's hairy.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's one of the fake beard hairs.
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  Speaker 1: Cause that's probably what it is. Cause it was sitting
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  Speaker 1: in that bag. It's clean, I can tell you that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Well, and beer is self-sanitizing.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: We're all good.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Well, let's get into the beer. I brought
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  Speaker 1: the beer tonight. It's from Barn Town Brewing. We've had
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  Speaker 1: a few of theirs before. Actually, one of their beers
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  Speaker 1: is the gross beer.
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  Speaker 2: The Tickle My Pickle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So one of us may have to drink that.
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  Speaker 1: They do make good beer, though. We just didn't happen
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  Speaker 1: to be fans of that one at all. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited to try this one. This is their Classic Amber.
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  Speaker 1: And it's pretty straightforward. There's nothing super fancy about the can.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing super, there's no description. I don't even see
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  Speaker 1: an ABV on here. We could maybe look it up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to guess somewhere around five.
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  Speaker 1: Five something. Yeah. We can maybe Google it, but let's
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  Speaker 1: crack these open and have fun drinking out of a
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  Speaker 1: sippy cup. Yay. I'll drink out of our normal, awesome
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  Speaker 1: beer steins that we got from the dollar store. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Amazing. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 1: I can't. This is. And you can't really do an
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  Speaker 1: Austin pour with that either.
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  Speaker 2: Ah! I can't really pour it at all. We are prepared.
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  Speaker 2: I did make a mess here a little bit. Nothing crazy,
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  Speaker 2: but a little bit. Might have to pour over this
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  Speaker 2: paper towel.
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  Speaker 1: We're always prepared here at the School Hop. Ah! Do
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  Speaker 1: you need a funnel? I might. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there we go.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I think I just need to be a man about
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  Speaker 2: it and pour.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I can't pour too much. That's the other thing. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to have to pour into this like 12 times.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to be an expert by the end of
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  Speaker 1: the night. Yeah. You're also prolonging my enjoyment of the
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  Speaker 1: beer because this is taking so long.
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  Speaker 2: It's a shared punishment. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It is kind of... I resent the fact that you
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  Speaker 1: spun this one.
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  Speaker 2: But, yeah, I hope this doesn't seal too well.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Skol. Skol. I don't even... Did you get anything?
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely did, but that was trippy. Usually, I have
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  Speaker 2: flashbacks of being a kid and drinking out of stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that and having, like, apple juice. Not beer.
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  Speaker 1: It's not apple juice. Nope.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the beer.
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  Speaker 1: It's really good beer. It's actually got, like, it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of got, like, a spice profile that I wasn't expecting. Like, typically,
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  Speaker 1: the amber beers are, like, just malty and there's just
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  Speaker 1: grain and malt and that's kind of yeah this has
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  Speaker 1: like a little bit of spice to it in a
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  Speaker 1: good way not like heat spice but just like.
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  Speaker 2: Uh like a spice what they say like a spiced
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  Speaker 2: rum yeah yeah yeah kind of like that autumn spice so.
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  Speaker 1: It gives it a really nice unique flavor i like
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  Speaker 1: it a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot yeah i like it too um it's weird to
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  Speaker 2: be drinking better in a normal glass yeah drinking out
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  Speaker 2: of blue's clue's head um i've got you know I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be drinking it ounce by ounce because this
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  Speaker 2: thing probably holds, I'm going to guess, like four ounces.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're small.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I really like the beer. I was at
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  Speaker 2: Barntown Brewing not terribly long ago with Friend of the
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  Speaker 2: Show Forest. And I probably had the closest thing they
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  Speaker 2: would have to like an IPA or something. I don't
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  Speaker 2: remember exactly what I had, but I did not have this.
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  Speaker 2: This is very good though. I would seek this out again.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Well, Hopefully you feel the same way
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  Speaker 1: after drinking two 16 ounce cans through, that's going to
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  Speaker 1: be like eight pours. I'm doing the math in my
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  Speaker 1: head right now.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be like, it's ridiculous, but it's
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  Speaker 2: also like tedious.
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  Speaker 1: And therein lies the punishment. Do you, do you feel
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  Speaker 1: like there's like pressure building up with.
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  Speaker 2: So I took the first drink and I expected like to,
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  Speaker 2: to put it down and have it just kind of
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  Speaker 2: explode a little bit. And it didn't do that. So there's,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to, it's a journey we're all going to
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  Speaker 2: go on together, guys.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Well, let's switch gears and talk about the
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  Speaker 1: journey that our 6-0 Vikings are on. You look absolutely
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous doing that. 6-0. 6-0. The last remaining undefeated team.
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  Speaker 1: Both the 49ers and the Chiefs were defeated this last weekend.
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  Speaker 1: The Vikings stand alone atop the entire league. And a
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  Speaker 1: ton of people, including friend of the show Dustin, were
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  Speaker 1: going back into the archives and digging into like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: teams to start 6-0 or the last teams to be
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  Speaker 1: undefeated went on to do X, Y, and Z. The
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  Speaker 1: expectations are really high. I think Dustin Baker posted something
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  Speaker 1: that said the last time the Vikings were the last
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  Speaker 1: remaining undefeated team was 2016, and they went 8-8 and
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  Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. And they were the only team in
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  Speaker 1: history or something crazy like that to start 6-0 and
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  Speaker 1: then not make the playoffs. So... Other than that, I
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  Speaker 1: think history is in the Vikings' favor to make the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs and potentially make a deep run in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: We can talk a little bit more about our thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on all that, but let's talk roses and thorns. What
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  Speaker 1: was a rose for you?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, mine kind of melded together, my roses and thorns,
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  Speaker 2: but the rose part is just that. They're 6-0. They're undefeated.
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  Speaker 2: We could list off, and we probably will talk about,
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  Speaker 2: A whole list of things we're concerned about, things that
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  Speaker 2: aren't great, things that could be way better, things that
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  Speaker 2: people will point out when they're trying to say that
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings are frauds and that they're not good. But
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  Speaker 2: aside from all of that, the Minnesota Vikings are currently undefeated.
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  Speaker 2: And I've said it a few times, the more games
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  Speaker 2: they win, it just feels like more of a head start.
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  Speaker 2: They don't have concerns about the offense and they've lost
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  Speaker 2: three or four games. They don't have an injury to
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  Speaker 2: their young starting left guard and some concerns about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: other players having missed time on offense and they've lost
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  Speaker 2: three or four games. You know, they do have concerns
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  Speaker 2: and nobody's perfect, but the Vikings record is. So the
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  Speaker 2: best remedy is winning games and, We could be sitting
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  Speaker 2: here saying we wanted people fired, we want the D.C.
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  Speaker 2: to be the head coach, we want a different quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: and sure, are all those talking points valid a little bit?
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  Speaker 2: Why not? And if we didn't talk about them, then
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  Speaker 2: we wouldn't be worth our weight in podcast if we
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  Speaker 2: didn't bring stuff like that up. But the only thing
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  Speaker 2: that matters is winning games, and the Vikings have won
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  Speaker 2: every one they've played. So that's my roast. Everything beyond
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  Speaker 2: the That. Everything, yeah, they're 6-0, but... Everything after the
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  Speaker 2: word but doesn't matter because they're 6-0.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I'll give you my rose, but first let me
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  Speaker 1: just paint the picture for you and for the listener.
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  Speaker 1: Because I'm an English teacher and I like to speak
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  Speaker 1: figuratively and I like figurative language. Roses and thorns exist
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  Speaker 1: on the same plant, right? And... Are you trying to, like,
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  Speaker 1: prevent it from spilling?
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  Speaker 2: I'm afraid of, sorry, I just took a drink. I'm
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  Speaker 2: afraid of it dripping. I still don't know yet if
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  Speaker 2: it's going to drip. And I'm wearing the Hitman jersey today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to talk about him in a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want it to have beer dripped on it.
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  Speaker 1: I think you'll be okay. I think it still sealed
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  Speaker 1: pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: The few drinks I've had, it hasn't dripped once. But
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  Speaker 2: I am going to be taking this lid off, you know,
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  Speaker 2: 10 to 20 times.
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  Speaker 1: We've got more of these. We do, yeah. Um, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Back to the English lesson here. Um, roses and thorns
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  Speaker 1: exist on the same plant, right? And one of them
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  Speaker 1: is awesome. Like roses are great. Like you buy your
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: wife roses. She's happy. They look really nice. Um, even
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  Speaker 1: just the petals on the rose itself are like really
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  Speaker 1: soft and they're cool to look at. They are kind
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  Speaker 1: of a pain in the butt if they grow in
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  Speaker 1: your yard, but it's mostly because of the thorns, right?
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  Speaker 1: The thorns are the worst. The last two houses I've owned,
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  Speaker 1: this house and my previous house, have had rose bushes.
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  Speaker 1: And I've had to deal with them. I've taken them
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  Speaker 1: out in both places. And it's not because I don't
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  Speaker 1: like the way the flowers look. It's because they're a
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  Speaker 1: pain to do anything else around. The thorns stick you
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  Speaker 1: and prick you and they're just not pleasant. And it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of this weird dichotomy of how could something so
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  Speaker 1: beautiful and nice exist with something so awful. Roses and thorns.
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  Speaker 1: The rose is for me, this defense. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. They are awesome in all the right ways. Harrison Smith,
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  Speaker 1: you're wearing his jersey here, had the game ceiling interception,
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  Speaker 1: his 40th of his career. He slammed the ball down
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  Speaker 1: on the 40 yard line afterwards. It was just a,
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  Speaker 1: a really cool exclamation point on a great, uh, defensive win.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll talk about some of the other, uh, defensive
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  Speaker 1: players here in a little bit. Cause a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these defensive players are just, they're shining right now. They
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: are the, the pedals on the ropes.
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  Speaker 2: Why are you, why are you laughing?
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  Speaker 1: I can't take you seriously. The noise too. It's the kissing,
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  Speaker 1: the kissing noises over here. Um, The list goes very,
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  Speaker 1: very deep with these defensive players. Dallas Turner, Andrew Van Ginkle,
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  Speaker 1: Blake Cashman, Harrison Smith, Byron Murphy. Holy cow, we could
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  Speaker 1: just keep going and going and going because these guys
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  Speaker 1: are just playing lights out. They're playing great defense. The
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  Speaker 1: mastermind behind it all, Brian Flores, is coaching out of
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  Speaker 1: his mind right now, and he's Driving opposing offense is
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  Speaker 1: absolutely crazy because they don't know how to prepare for him.
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  Speaker 1: The defense of this Vikings team is my rose.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a well-earned rose by them. They're the
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: most fun thing about this team to watch right now.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, anybody that knows football at all would tell
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: you this defense is the best part of the team.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: It's maybe the best defense in the league, maybe one
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: of the best defenses ever. in league history. Uh, yeah,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: just crazy things you can say. And they're all true. Um,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: well-earned Rose, Evan, uh, what about your thorn?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: So roses are the nice part of the plant. Everybody
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: likes that part, but nobody likes the thorns. And you
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: said earlier that the Vikings are six and oh, but
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: nothing after that matters. Um, I'm still going to push
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: back on that and say, we got to talk about
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: this offense. Um, Because the offense still leaves a lot
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: to be desired. And the offense is a thorn in
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: so many ways. And it's not that the offense is horrendous.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: We could sit here and say there are worse offenses.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Some bright spots. They're not really turning the ball over.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: And for the most part, they're healthy. They got a
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: lot of their guys back this last week. But there
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: just seems to be this lack of urgency. There seems
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: to be a lack of cohesion there seems to be
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: um just a lack of a lot of things we
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: got a geyser on our hands here.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I thought that might happen at some point for the
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: listeners i took a drink out of the sippy cup
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: and it finally happened the straw kind of not much
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: it was a couple of drops just a little spray
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: just to let me know hey i can't be so
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: laissez-faire um but yeah.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: All that to say um These are the thorns on
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: this rose plant. And, again, generally speaking, roses are good things, right? Like,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: you buy your wife roses, she's happy. This Viking season
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: has been a rose so far. It's been awesome. It's
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: been great. 6-0. The last remaining undefeated team. But every
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: rose has thorns. Every good flower has these.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: That would be a really good song. Every rose... Has
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: its thorn. You're musically inclined, man. You should write something
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: like that. I'm sure nobody, I can't believe nobody's ever
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: put that out.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I'm a poet and I didn't even know it. But yeah.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I think your thorn is similar to me.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. If you're done, I'll take the wheel here. I guess, yeah,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: mine is also the offense, but more so every week
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I keep saying, like, yeah, it feels like they're going
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: to take a step. Yeah, the offense– They just need
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: to mesh together. They need to get better. They need
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: to get healthy, which they finally did. They need to
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: have a week off, which they did, and Kyler just
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: needs to get a little bit more in this offense,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: and he has been. My ultimate thorn isn't just the offense.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I get the feeling now that we've seen the peak
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: of this offense. The whole talk right now is, hey,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: the run game could use some help, and Aaron Jones,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: he's a juggernaut. What's the word? A warrior. He's dealing
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: with injury and he just keeps going out there and
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: performing well. This week we got Jordan Mason back and
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: he was out there. He had one or two decent
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: runs and Aaron Jones was still out there. For the
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: six weeks in a row, there was a point where
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Aaron Jones was questionable to come back in the game. Actually,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I think this week was the first time he didn't
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: come back. But There's also the rumors of like, well,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: the Vikings, you know, the Colts are starting their fire
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: sale today. They traded away Quentin Nelson and DeForest Buckner.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: And now then everybody's kind of anticipating, all right, the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: next one could be Jonathan Taylor. And are the Vikings
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: in on that? And I'm here, like, I'd be okay
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: with that depending on the price. But even if they
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: made a trade for Jonathan Taylor or Saquon Barkley or
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: some awesome running back, I just have the sense that
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the Vikings' offense just isn't going to get any better.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I think we've seen the peak. Kyler has shown us
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: what he's going to give us. I don't know that
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: anything's really going to click more than it already has.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like he probably knows the playbook as well
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: as he's going to know it. And maybe he is
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: pretty comfortable. I mean, he's been playing okay. Like, he
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: hasn't looked completely lost like he did, you know, in
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: the first few plays against the Packers game in Week 1.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: But it still... it's not, it's.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Not doing much. Justin Jefferson, I think is like 45th
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: in receiving in the league. Now they've also already had
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: their buy. Um, and Justin Jefferson missed all of one
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: game and most of another. So there's a little bit
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: of built-in excuses there, but like, it's not a high
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: flying offense. It's not electric, excuse me. Um, And I
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: just get the sense what we have is what we're
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: going to get. And it really is, if this Vikings
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: team is going to end this season very successful, whether
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: it's making the playoffs or a deep playoff run or better,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: it's just going to be in spite of the offense.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: We're not going to have that 38-7 game. The offense
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: just isn't capable of that right now, which is my
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: biggest thorns.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: So I just pulled up, and I think a lot
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: of people use this website. It's rbsdm.com, and it's a
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: stat site that takes stats that I don't fully understand,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: like drop back EPA per play and rush EPA per play.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Stuff that I don't fully understand, but stuff that I
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: think is probably fairly trustworthy when it comes to stats
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. So I'll throw a couple of these
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: up here. So the first chart we'll look at is
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: offense in the league. And when we're looking at offense
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: in the league, you've got teams like the Bills, the Chiefs,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the Niners, heck, even the Cowboys and the Jaguars are
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: up in kind of this upper tier where they are
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: producing yards and eventually points both through the air and
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: on the ground. And the Vikings are in negative territory
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: in both of those. Um, not, it's not to say
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: that like they're going negative. You can't score negative points. Um,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: but in terms of, um, you're struggling to pour that.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I almost thought I was going to spill there.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: This is going to be a major distraction the entire day.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Major distraction.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Um, but yeah, keep, keep going.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Anyways.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Um, yeah, you can't score negative points, but, um, I
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: think the essence is, This offense isn't efficient. And that's
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the company that the Vikings offense finds themselves in. They
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: find themselves down in the area of the chart with
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: teams like the Eagles, the Titans, the Dolphins, the Browns,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the Saints, the Cardinals. Not great offensive teams.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Not great, Bob.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Not great, Bob. But if we flip this over to defense, my,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: how the turntables have turned. The Vikings defense is in
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: a league of its own up in the upper right-hand
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: corner of this chart. And there's nobody even close to them.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: The only other teams close to them are the Bucks
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: and the Seahawks. The Niners are kind of there, the Chiefs,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the Steelers, the Broncos, all teams with notably good defenses.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: But no one's close to the Vikings at all. And
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: it's crazy to see it laid out on a graph,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: on a chart like this, where... you can see visually
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: taking all the data from all the games to where
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: we are at, you know, going into week seven, the
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: offense is definitely a thorn and the defense is definitely
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the best part of this team.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. One, one thing that you mentioned earlier that I
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: think is extremely important and it's the reason, the secondary
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: reason why the Vikings haven't lost games is Earlier you
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: said the offense is doing a really good job of
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: not turning the ball over. If everything was the same
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: for this offense, except they were losing the turnover battle,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: even by one every game, this Vikings team has not
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: won very many games this year. I don't know that
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: we've had a game yet this year where the Vikings
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: have lost the turnover battle. They've either been... even or
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: better than the other team, I believe, in every game
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: this year. And there might be one or two that
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: they haven't. But that's the kicker. Yeah, Kyler's not thrown
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: for 250 yards every week. I think he did that
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: close to once a few weeks ago. He's got three
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: touchdown passes, I believe, on the year, and we're six
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: games in.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: But.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: He also hasn't been throwing interceptions left and right. There's
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: been a couple, but not everyone. Aaron Jones had that
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: fumble a couple weeks ago, but nothing really outside of that.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: This offense has not turned the ball over. And the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: defense has gotten turnovers, but it's also been really good
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: outside of needing those turnovers. So that's the two main
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: reasons why the Vikings are 6-0 and why we're not
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: completely in despair right now.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: According to profootballreference.com, the Vikings have won the turnover battle
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: all season long. They have not lost the turnover battle.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: And I think notably there are now four games, three games,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: three games that the Vikings haven't turned the ball over
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: in at all. They turned the ball over twice against
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the Saints, once against the Bucs, and once against the Packers.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Other than that, they haven't turned the ball over at all.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: And the defense has produced at least one turnover in
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: every single game. That's wild. One turnover against the Colts,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: one against the Dolphins, two against the Packers, Bears, and
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Bucks in each of those games, two each, and then
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: three against the Saints. So this defense outside of two
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: games is producing multiple turnovers a game. This defense is elite.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Um, and I, I brought this up a
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: few weeks ago. Um, this, this team is, you know, we,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: we wouldn't be as concerned if it was the offense
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: that was as elite and the defense was as mediocre
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: as the offenses. So like if we flipped the scores
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: of each of these games, yeah, the, the biggest win
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the Vikings have had this year score wise, I believe
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: was against the Packers in week one when it was what,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: 39 to 20 something, right? Like that. And that was
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: a late game comeback. Um, the biggest offensive performance of
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: the season so far. And most of that was quarterbacked
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: by Carson Wentz. Um, but if every game, you know, we,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: against the Colts, it was 16 to 10. If you
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: added 25 points to both of those teams, or that'd
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: be like 41 to 35, we're sitting here like, man,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the Vikings can really put up points. Not a lot
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: of people would be putting a lot of stock into,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: holy cow, the Vikings are, the defense is allowing 30
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: plus points every week. Like it, it just, we wouldn't
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: be as concerned because the part that all of us,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: you know, couch football fans are watching are passing yards
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: and touchdown passes and big runs by Jordan Mesa. So like,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I don't, it's, it's maybe not as sexy, but defensive,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: you know, dominance is, is still good football to watch
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: and something to behold. It just doesn't feel as good.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like, Oh, my team's awesome. We usually
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: say my team's awesome. They scored 40 points the last
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: three weeks. It not, Oh, my team's awesome. They only
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: allowed 10 points in each of the last three weeks.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: You know, it's, it's a tough way.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: And I think we are in, uh, a defensive wave
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: of NFL football right now. Um, I think, Offensive players
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: league-wide are getting banged up. They're getting hurt a lot.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: How many starting quarterbacks are already out and we're not
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: halfway through the season yet? And then that's not to
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: count running backs and wide receivers and other skilled players.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I think we are seeing a resurgence of that old-school,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: rough-and-tough defensive brand of football. Right now the Vikings are
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: second league-wide in point deferentials. At plus 51, they only
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: trail the Niners, who have a plus 58. That's not
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: a big point differential for anybody. The Vikings lead the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: league in points allowed. So, again, arguably the best defense
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: in the league. They've only allowed 74 points, but what's
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: interesting is They are fourth worst. The Vikings are fourth
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: worst in points four. Yeah. They are at the bottom
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: of the league, and those charts that we just showed
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a minute ago prove that. They're not effective on the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, and they're really leaning on
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: defense and special teams to carry them through these games.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and for a team that has... I mean, if
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: you just count the number of guys who start on
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: offense that have made Pro Bowls, who have... won awards
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: and been highly regarded as offensive skill players or really
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: good blockers. Like this offense on paper should be really good.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Kyler Murray should be really good. It's just that the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: equation isn't equating, you know, it's not, it's not turning
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: out the way we want it. So it feels frustrating.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: And that's why everybody thinks the Vikings are the worst
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: six and O team in history. Like, okay. Just cause
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: you don't respect defense. Everybody, I've seen the tweet a
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: million times. Like, oh, everybody says defense wins championships until
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: it's the Vikings defense winning these games. So it's just,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: this is the cross we have to bear this season.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Just like this sippy cup is the cross I have
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: to bear this episode. How many times have you filled
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: that up? Because I just poured my second beer. Three times.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: The initial and then two after that. So I'm going
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: to keep a mental track.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: You're up three to two. Plus one.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Man, you're losing that, that. that poor differential.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. Yeah. Um, let's talk about game balls. Yeah. And, uh,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I really hope that you give your game ball to
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: somebody on the offensive side of the ball after we
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: just ragged on them for, I'm just kidding.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: You don't have to, my game ball will be different
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: than it has been all season.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, hopefully some, sometime I get to give him
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: a game ball, but no, uh, not, not this week. Um, no, I'm,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I'm repping his Jersey. I, uh, I'm very excited and
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: just super happy for Harrison Smith. I think, you know,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the numbers, one more interception didn't really change much, but
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: he hit the 40 club. I think it was Alec
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Lewis on Twitter said something like, oh, Harrison Smith now
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: with 40 interceptions, now he only needs like 41 more
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: to reach the other guy that wore 22 for the
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Vikings in Paul Krause. I don't think Harry's going to
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: hit 80-something interceptions. That's Paul Krause's NFL career record. But
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith, he's playing about half the snaps each game.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I think he played more in this game. Okay, all right.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I think. I don't have hard numbers off.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: It's been roughly around half every week. So I think
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Eric Thompson on Twitter the day after the game each
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: week kind of puts out the snap counts. And then
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: some PFF scores. It's a really nice thing that he does.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I retweeted him in the last couple of days saying
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: he's doing the Lord's work. But every week I see
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: his snap counts and defense usually shows Harrison Smith. Like
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: if there's 80 snaps on defense, Harry's usually around 40-ish.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: So Harrison Smith gets that 40th interception. I think statistically
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: they're going to have him split a sack with Dallas Turner. Um,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: so he's, he's above 20 sacks in his career. Um,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: we've known him to be a hall of famer for
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: a long time. Uh, I think there's no question whatsoever.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: He's a first ballot hall of famer. Um, real people
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: who know ball know about Harrison Smith hall of famers
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: who played safety know about Harrison Smith. Um, he's one
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: of the best football players of our lifetimes. Um, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: he seems like a good dude. um and just a
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: guy to root for i'll never forget that fake first
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: sendoff that we all had for him in that packers
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: game um it's one of my favorite vikings fan moments.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I think he loved it secretly he.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Did and then he's like well i have to retire
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: now because after that um thank goodness he didn't retire
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: um and i think he's still an important piece of
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: the defense whether it's his intercepting ability he On the field,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: he has one interception this year. I know he's not
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: a ball hawk like he has been earlier in his career.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: But also as far as he's not a rah-rah leader.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: He's not yelling at everybody, but he's one that if
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: he stands up to say something, everybody's going to stop
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: and listen. Yeah, he's one of my favorite Vikings. He
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: had a great game, and he definitely earns my game ball.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: You were right. 53% of the snaps, according to footballguys.com.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: But I was also kind of right because he eclipsed
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: the halfway point in the last two games. Week four
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: and week five, he was in on 64% of those snaps.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: And that was up from 45% in week three, 39%
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: in week two, and 38% in week one. So they've
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: definitely kind of ramped him up a little bit. And
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: then after the bye week, they kind of tapered him off.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: slightly it's been one game but not a ton it'll
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: be interesting to see how involved he is especially going
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: into this next stretch and we'll talk about this next
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: stretch of games because i think the next four games
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: for sure look to be challenging for the vikings um
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: while you're taking a good long swig uh do you
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: have to like relieve the.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Pressure i do i'm afraid of it it's you know
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: spitting up like i did that one.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Time My game ball. I'm going to give my game
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: ball to a guy that I think we underestimate. I
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: think we forget about him. But I saw a stat
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: today that reminded me of just how great he is.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: And actually, let's look at his snap count. He was
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: in on 100% of the snaps, my game ball guy.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: And my game ball is going to Blake Cashman. 100%
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: of the snaps, both week five and this past week,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: week seven, he's usually 90% or more. And the interesting
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: stat that I came across today was that the Vikings,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: since picking him up in free agency a few years ago,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: the Vikings are 25-7 with that guy on the field.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: 25-7. And without him, there was a seven-game stretch where
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: they played without him. They are three and four.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: He's important for Brian Flores' defense.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: You tell me. Yeah, you tell me how important this
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: guy is just looking at those numbers. He was also
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: PFF's highest graded defensive player. He was like 90-something PFF
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: score after this week. So he played a heck of
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: a game. I want to pull up the– box score
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: quick because I don't know that the box score really
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: like gave a ton of information that way and now
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I can't find the dumb box score for this game
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: but I'm getting there hang on but I still think
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: you'd see his his fingerprints in the box score a
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: little bit he led the team in tackles 12 total
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: tackles you just mentioned Harrison Smith and Dallas Turner getting
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: a sack. This guy had two sacks on his own.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Three quarterback hits, two tackles for loss. This guy was
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: just– he was in the backfield. He was disruptive.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Four passes defended. So there was a couple– it would
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: have been a tough interception, but early on he.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Almost got a pick.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: So he– not only is he in the backfield, but
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: he's covering passes as well. Blake Cashman, we can't forget
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: about this guy. He is– He is a key to
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: this Vikings defense. I can't look at you seriously. What's
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: so funny, Ev?
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I'm just drinking beer, man.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Out of a bluey sippy cup, and it's bluey. Not bluey,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: blues clues. Blues clues. It's pretty great. Never in my
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: wildest dreams would I have imagined that when we were kids,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: you'd be sitting here drinking beer out of a blues
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: clues sippy cup. Look, man. Blake Cashman, though. Harrison Smith.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: You can't go wrong with either one. I think they're
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: both deserving. And they're both these veteran presence guys that
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I think Brian Flores and KOC rely on heavily to
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: carry the culture of the team and to be those
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: coaches on the field, to be the eyes on the field.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And both Harrisons. and Blake Cashman, final year of their deals.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith, I think he even recently said, like, yeah,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: this is it.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Probably going to retire.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Blake Cashman, he's like 30, 31, but that's not terribly old,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: especially when you're playing football and playing it well. I'm
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: kind of concerned Blake Cashman, You know, every year we
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: say it, Brian Flores may be a head coach next year.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: He's probably going to go on. Blake Cashman may be
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: more comfortable if Brian Flores goes and becomes a head
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: coach for another team.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: And follow him.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: And it's a major payday that he's about to get.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: The Vikings have a few players. Maybe that's a topic
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: we need to talk about sometime soon. The Vikings have
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: a few players that are coming up on big paydays.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: And I have a feeling you're not going to be
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: able to pay everybody Jalen Redman, Blake Cashman, I think
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Andrew Van Ginkle. I might be wrong on Van Ginkle,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: but there's a handful of guys that we would all
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: like to see the Vikings re-up that they're just not
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: going to be able to keep everybody. So I hope
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: this isn't the last year of Blake Cashman in purple,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: but it could be.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: It could be. All right. I'm going to need you
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: to just get your Lions stuff out of the way
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: right now before we talk about the Lions.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Your whole shtick about they're the worst. Go ahead.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: What were you going to say?
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: The worst fans.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Are you, Evan, saying that the Lions have the worst
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: fans in all of sports? I think last week I
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: even went as far as to say that Lions fans
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: are the most absurd, terrible, horrible collection of human beings
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: that have ever collected themselves in human history. Now that,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: that might be a little overkill, but no, I'll double down.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: They are, they're the worst people in the world, the
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: worst fans in sports. And yes, I know Eagles fans exist.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I just, I don't believe how obnoxious Lions fans are.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: They're absolutely the worst. Is that what you're talking about, Ev?
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: So you agree with me on that?
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Not really, but it's okay. I just wanted you to
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: get it out so that we could have a good, thoughtful,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: even-keeled discussion about the Vikings.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, you wanted me to get it all out. That
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: was just a little bit to the light. No, I'm
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: just kidding. But yeah, we've all been around them.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I haven't really been around them too much.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I attended a Vikings game. The Sam Darnold year, a
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: couple years ago.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I know you did.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: The Lions barely eked it out against the Vikings, and
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: hearing them chant that two-bit, second-rate quarterback's name in my
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: fan's stadium was really annoying. I saw a Lions fan
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: knock a beer out of a Vikings fan's hands because
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: the Vikings fan mocked that Jared Goff right in the
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Lions fan's face, which they're all children, whatever, but Lions
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: fans knocked it out, and I had my kids with me,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: and this was several. I was at the top of
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: a staircase, and I saw it at the bottom. I
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: was not about to have my kids around that, but ridiculous.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Lions fans are the worst. This is unrelated. I will
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: take a little bit of a tangent really quick.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: We don't do that.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: We don't. Well, I do.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I'm really good at it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I'm great at it. I know that you care about
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: the Hawkeyes more than I do. We live in Iowa,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: you know. one of the whole baseline things about our show.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: We're just a few dudes from Iowa drinking beer and
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: talking about the Vikings. The Hawkeyes got beat by the
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Gophers this last weekend. Last second field goal. Crazy. It
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: was in Huntington Bank Stadium in Minneapolis. They rushed the field.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: It was great. I wore my Gopher polo to church
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: on Sunday.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you texted me. I did not answer you.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I did what I said I would. And I'm not
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the world's biggest Gopher fan. No, yeah. When they're not
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: playing Minnesota, I'll root for the Hawkeyes, usually. But anyways,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: did you see, there's a video of a really obnoxious
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Iowa fan who was kind of acting like the Lions
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: fans that you're talking about.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, Hawk fans, you know, we have
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: a reputation. I'm not one of those.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Yeah, no, yeah. Pot, kettle.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: There's bad apples in every group, but I can at
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: least say Hawk fans are better groups of people than
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: the collective Lions fan group. I can say that pretty confidently.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I'd be interested to hear, drop a comment out there
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: if you're listening. What do you think, if you're listening,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: of the Gophers and the Hawkeyes? Where do you sit
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: on that whole thing? The Gophers now have all three
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: of their major rivalry trophies. Weird.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: It's never happened.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Paul Bunyan's axe, the little brown jug, and the Floyd
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: of Rosedale.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: They probably don't have a trophy case big enough for that.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I think they do. They displayed it proudly.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: They had to dust that one off real hard.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: It's all over Twitter. They even added other fake trophies
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: in there. I forget what they all were, but there
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: were some funny memes of a fourth trophy that was
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: added in there. Anyways, comment where you land on all
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: that and let us know if you think Hawkeye fans
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: are just as bad or not as bad as Lions fans.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: And if If you're not a college football fan, let
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: us know. Maybe if it's not the Lions, who does
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: have the worst fan base in the NFL? Because I
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: think the Eagles are up there.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pretty bad.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I think the Eagles are up there.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: At least the Eagles have success in their franchise.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: True. I think Eagles fans are a little... Pardon my French,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: but a little neutered right now. They're tapered down a
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: little bit because... You know, Jalen Hurts, you know, all
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: respect to that guy, very talented football player. It's kind
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: of tough what happened to him with the blood clots
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: and stuff. But their fan base is really bad. And
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia is a tough city. So it kind of makes sense.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: It tracks. But I think there are some other franchises
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: out there that people would say, oh, no, these fans
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: are the worst. Drop a comment. Let us know what
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: you think. All right.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I'm commenting right now. All right.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Austin's like random school hop fan from Iowa.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Vikings-Lions game. It's a noon game,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: normal schedule. It's in Detroit. Nothing super crazy about that either,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think. It's not like it's a West Coast game.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: The Vikings typically don't perform well in those or haven't historically.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: The Lions are currently favored by three points. and are
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: in third place in the NFC North. And you've told
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: me before, and it still doesn't make complete sense to me,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: home teams typically get a one and a half point.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: It's like three points.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Margin? Yeah.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Usually the home team, you just start off.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: You change your number every time.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: No, you always say one and a half, and I
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: always correct you. Home team usually gets the three point bump.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Okay. So what you're saying then is if they're favored
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: by three, that means that this game is basically even.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Pretty much. It's just, you know, home field advantage is
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: a thing.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Not having to sleep. I think even home teams, like
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: the night before they sleep in a hotel, um, but
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: you're not having to get on a plane. This isn't,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the flight is from Minneapolis to Detroit,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: but I can't be.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: It's not that long. I've flown through Detroit before. Yeah.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Condolences. Um, but yeah, I think this, everything is saying, um,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a close game. Now we are, this,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: this line will move, um, Over under 46.5 points. I
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: would bet the under unless the Lions somehow figured out
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: the Vikings' defense. Yeah, I don't think this will be
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: a high-scoring game at all. I think the Vikings are
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: showing that they're not going to have high-scoring games at all,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: both because of their offensive ability and their defensive ability,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: good and bad. But yeah, I'm not concerned about the
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Lions at all. Uh, it's a phrase of yours.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Famous last words.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, uh, you, you've said it before and I
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: agree with you. You said it last week.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I said it last week. Yeah.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Um, so I, I mean, yes, Jared Goff, serviceable quarterback.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: You could even say decent.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: He's better than Kyler Murray.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure. Um, Kyler Murray won't be a starting quarterback
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: in the NFC North next year unless he's with one
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: of the other three teams, but that's a discussion for
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: another day. Um, Obviously, Jameer Gibbs, he's an electrifying player.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Amon Ross St. Brown, just as electrifying at wide receiver.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: The Lions have some weapons, and they're not bad 4-2.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you ever told me, hey, after six games,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: the Vikings are 4-2 in any given season, you're not
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: upset about that. The only difference is this NFC North,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: for whatever reason, is good all the time now. and
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: you have to basically be undefeated to be at the
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: top of the division. So yeah, these teams are pretty good.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I think the Lions are still pretty fraudulent. Their coach
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: makes boneheaded, dumb decisions to go for it when not
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: only shouldn't you, but nobody would think it's a good idea,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: even the craziest of analytical people. Yeah, even at home
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: for the Lions, they're lost last year, I believe at
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: home for them, to Max Brosmer.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Until Brian Flores starts breaking down and showing true weaknesses
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: on a consistent basis in his defense, or if there
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: were big injuries, if All of a sudden we get
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: a number one injury report in the next day or so,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: and Blake Cashman did not participate. That would be concerning.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: But until we get something like that, I'm really not concerned.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: The offense has shown what they're going to give us,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: and it's not great, but it's at least consistent. The
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: defense is light out, and I think this is going
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: to be another solid win for the Vikings this week.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: You seem pretty confident.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I really am.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I can appreciate your confidence. I've been saying, though, for
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: a few weeks, the Vikings will lose a game.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Sure, they probably will.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Or a handful at some point. Like, it will happen.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I think this might be a loss for the Vikings. Okay.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: And I guess I haven't looked at the injury report,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: and it's... We're recording on Tuesday night, so.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: They haven't even put out the first.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: It'll come out Wednesday, so probably as you're listening to this, people.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: But I guess my point is I don't even know
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: who could be on it based on the Lions-Packers game
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: from last week.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I've got that up, actually. Vikings, Aaron Jones... And
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: that's it as far as, like, active players. Everybody else
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: is Donovan Jackson on the IR, Josh Oliver on the IR. So, yeah,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Aaron Jones just because he came out of the last
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: game questionable. And then for the Lions, you have Rake Straw,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: a cornerback. Never heard of him. Must not be that great.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: St. Brown is on there. St.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Brown questionable with an ankle, but I don't know if
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: that was just for a few minutes against, was it
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: the Packers they just played? And then Kirby Joseph, he's
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: on IR. So the Lions don't have a really long list,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: but St. Brown would be big for them to miss,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: but also their offense is pretty good even without him.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see how the injury reports
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: come out this week.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Agreed. And I think that will definitely determine a lot
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: about how this game will go. I think if the
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Lions are banged up, the Vikings are relatively healthy at
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: this point. you know, not including Aaron Jones, who I
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: think is still going to be battling to get out
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah. Um, but yeah, it'll be, it'll
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: be very interesting to see. Uh, what did we predict
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: in the purple punishments for this game?
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: So, um, Evan, we're guaranteed a spin next week for
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: the purple punishments. I predicted a win. Um, you predicted
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: a loss. Um, and I think it sounds like, and
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: that was of course our preseason picks. Um, Kind of
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: sounds like we're going to be pretty consistent with our
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: current picks. Evan, are you comfortable yet giving a score prediction?
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could throw one out there. I think the
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Vikings offense will produce some points. I don't think it's
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: going to be as low scoring as it has been.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: But I still think it's a loss, and I think
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: it's probably something like I don't know, 31-21. Oh, wow. Okay.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: This Lions offense has a lot going for it, and
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I think they will have fun. I think this defense
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: will eventually just get to a breaking point where they're like, nah,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: we can just let them have fun for a day.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: We're 6-0. We're still going to be in first place
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: in the division even if we give up a game.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: We're not losing one game. Now, losing a divisional game,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: it's a big deal. I'm not saying it's not. But
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: losing one game, whatever, it's not going to rock the
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: boat too much. And the Vikings have to be looking
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: ahead at their schedule. There's a lot coming up with, shoot,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: it's the Lions, but then it's the Bills on, I
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: think that's a Monday night game. um at home but
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: it's a monday night game and then they go to
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: green bay in the middle of november which could be
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: kind of chilly could be although the weather's been pretty
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: warm and then they have to travel to mexico city
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: and play the niners as the away away team and
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: that's a sunday night game i believe and then if
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: you look ahead even further the falcons just beat the
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: do they beat the niners or the chiefs the niners
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: the niners chiefs lost to the seahawks There you go.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: But the Falcons just beat the Niners, right? So they're
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: probably feeling pretty good about themselves and could be a
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: much different team when the Vikings see them a few
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: weeks down the road. And right now the Panthers are
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: in first place in the NFC South, which is the
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: division that nobody likes to actually like plant their flag
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: in and win. But right now they're winning it and
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: they're not playing terribly. They could be playing a whole
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: lot worse. So This next stretch of games, I've heard
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: some people call a gauntlet for the Vikings. They've played
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: good teams already. The Packers are a good team. The
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Bears are a good team. The Buccaneers could be in
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: the mix to win the NFC South. They're in second
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: place right now. The Saints aren't proving to be a
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: terrible team.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: They're putting up offensive numbers.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Tyler Shook is looking okay. And truth be told, I
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: think the Colts had some things going for them, but
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: They fired their GM, and now they just traded away
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: two of their best defensive players.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: And could be more. I mean, the Vikings could be
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: talking to them as we speak about a certain running
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: back for them.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: We should talk about that. We should, yeah. But let's
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: hear your score prediction. Do you think they're going to win?
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: I do think the Vikings are going to win. I
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: also think at some point this season, the Brian Flores defense,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't be perfect defensively, every day of
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: your life, so they're gonna have some slip-ups or two,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: but I really think Kevin O'Connell calls his games, offensively
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: at least, based on how the game's going. He's not
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: necessarily a, you know, a foot on the gas, doesn't
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: matter if we're up by, you know, 100 already, or
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: if we're down by 100, I'm still gonna, you know,
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: try to throw a 50-yard bomb every time. No, he
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: seems to call his game with the clock in mind
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: with how he feels about the defense and special teams.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: So that's why we see a lot of Vikings games
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: called by Kevin O'Connell where it's like, oh, it seems
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: like it's a close game or it's one that Kevin
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: O'Connell is playing the other team rather than just calling
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: his plays based off of his team's strengths. So I
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: think that's kind of why we see games like the
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Packer game in week one where the Vikings scored almost
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: 40 points. because they kind of had to. But yeah,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I think against the Lions, Vikings are going to win.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Defense gives up 21 points, which I think would be
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: the second most points they've given up all season. And
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: the Vikings score 24. So it'll be a closer game,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: but I think it's one the Vikings are capable of.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, I really hope I'm wrong and I'll
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: gladly eat something spicy or do the bean boozled dude challenge.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: The bean boozled is the worst one we have on there.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Eat sardines. I think the spicy one is going to
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: be the worst one for me.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Because spicy one, it's one gummy bear. Super spicy. It's
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: going to ruin your night. But bean boozled, it'll ruin
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: like into the next morning. Like some of those ones
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: are just in there, man. They're terrible.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: I might just like swallow it like a pill. Yeah.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, but then it would just like, you'd burp
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: and be like, oh, the burps would be worse.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: The beer will break it up and just pass it
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: on through.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Something will pass.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think the Vikings beat the Lions. But ultimately,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: like you said, if they go six and one, the
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: season's not over. We will have to deal with those insufferable, awful,
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: horrible Lions fans. And you know who you are.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. 6-1 would still be a game up on
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: the Bears and the Lions, who are both two lost
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: teams right now. The Bears are slightly ahead of the Lions.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: They're a half game ahead because they've played one more game.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: The Lions had the same bye week that the Vikings did.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: So.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: But you said it a few minutes ago, and I
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: don't disagree with you at all. The NFC North is
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: still probably the toughest division in football. And to your point,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: you almost have to be undefeated to be at the top.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: And that's where the Vikings find themselves. I just hope
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: that we don't see this Vikings team crumble like that
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: 2016 Vikings team where they went 5-0, 6-0, and then
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: just totally laid an egg at the end of the
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: season and didn't even make the playoffs. And that is
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a fear in the back of
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: my mind, even if this defense continues to play lights
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: out there's going to come up there'll be a breaking
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: point where they'll realize like we're not going to go
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: where we want to go with this team we're not
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: going to continue to put our bodies on the line
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: defensively like we have been you know I don't know
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: it'll be fascinating To see how that goes. You just
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: cracked your second beer. Yep. And I'm like almost done.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: With my second beer. This is my sixth pour here,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: which I thought it'd be more, but that's.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: You still got at least like three more if you're
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: going to finish it. Probably. You may not finish it
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: in the episode.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but at least every sip of beer
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: I will have taken during the episode will be from
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: the sippy cup, so.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Evan, really quick, what are your thoughts specifically... Jonathan Taylor,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: do you think the Vikings should make a trade? One,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: make a trade at all. Two, do you think they
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: should go specifically for Taylor, or will it even matter
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: too much?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor's touchdown against the Vikings definitely made me wonder
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: if he could rush for some more touchdowns at U.S.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Bank Stadium. It was actually hard to watch, but it
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: was also kind of like, man, If we could have that,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: that'd be awesome. He's younger. He's healthy. That's been the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: knock with Jordan Mason is he's not always been healthy.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: And Aaron Jones, as much of a warrior as he is,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: he got knocked around pretty good, and he's questionable right
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: now to return this next week. So if you had
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: a triple-headed monster led by Jonathan Taylor with some help
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: from either one of those other two, I think you
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: immediately elevate this offense. You support Kyler Murray. I'm in
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: favor of it as long as it doesn't completely wreck
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: next year. I don't want to go all in on
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: something this year, especially with the lackluster offense. If the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: offense was producing and putting up points, but they were
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: just one piece away from doing something... then I'd be
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: like 100% all in. I'm, I'm still like 75% in
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: on this. Um, but if you look at, um, like
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: the Niners who got DeForest Buckner back from the courts today, um,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: like that's a team that I think made a smart move.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: They were a little bit banged up on the defensive
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: side of the ball. Their offense is playing great. Put
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: your eggs in that basket and elevate the other side
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: of the ball. Um, Jonathan Taylor would definitely elevate the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball for sure. But I'm wondering
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: if it's not just a running back thing, but maybe
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: it's an offensive line thing. And I'd rather see it's
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: not a sexy move, it's not cool, it's not amazing
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: to bring in an offensive line player. But I think
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: that's maybe where they need to focus because it will
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: protect Kyler Murray. It will open up opportunities for Jordan
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Mason and Aaron Jones. And it'll give more time for
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. I still can't do it. You just, you
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: look at me with that look.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: I did that one on purpose.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: But it would probably increase Justin Jefferson's opportunities, Jordan Addison's opportunities.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: It's one of those, like, it's a quiet investment that
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: will have big dividends. And I think The running back
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: move is the splashy, sexy, oh, man, the Vikings really
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: want to go all in. And, yeah, we do. But
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the best way to do it.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: I would tend to agree. But the fact of the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: matter is right now the sexy talker is Jonathan Taylor.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: What if it was a fifth-round pick?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Well, that's a no-brainer.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, and it's not. I'm not the delirious guy saying, oh,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: we'll take him for fifth. No, that's insane. What if
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: it was a second and a fifth?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: That would be interesting.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: That's probably fair. It's probably what he's worth. If not,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: he's probably worth more than that.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: I'd be interested to see what Carly Ursae Gordon has
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: on her little notepad because I'm sure she's got a
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: ton of information on there about that.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think a second and a fifth and maybe
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: more is probably fair, but that's a lot. And I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: don't know. I keep going back and forth because I'm
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: always the one that's like, I don't, why would you
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: trade so much? Why would you give up so much?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: I would never be happy if my team gave up
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: three first round picks for somebody, even if it was like,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: you know, Joe Burrow or something like, I mean, obviously, yeah,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: I'd be a little happy, but like, I'd still be like, dang, that's,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: That's such an expensive trade. But in a year like this,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: when you have the best defense in the league and
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: one of the best in league history and special teams
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: that's clicking, so many things are clicking. You start to
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: get in that territory of, well, yeah, but maybe you
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: sell out for one year. And if it all works
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: out and you get the championship, then who cares what
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: it costs? I mean, if you're telling me sending a
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: first round pick to the Colts for Jonathan Taylor would
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: guarantee a Super Bowl, send him five first round picks.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Like if it guaranteed a Super Bowl, my goodness, let's
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: do it. But it's still, it's tough because there are
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: no guarantees and you can't prove it. And nobody really
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: knows if even adding an electric running back to this
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: offense would solve all the problems. I think you hit
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: the nail on the head. This is probably more of a,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: offensive line situation. And I tend to think it's more
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: of a center situation than really anything else. Joe Huber,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: I think is playing, um, better than we would expect
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: a backup to be playing. Uh, people hate on Will Fries,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: but I think he's doing okay as well. Um, I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: think it's the center position and then everything else after that.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: It's tough.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Um, The good thing is we have no control over it.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: We're either going to see a tweet from Tom Pelissero saying, trade,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: the Vikings have traded such and such for this running
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: back or this center or whatever, or we're just not. And,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: you know, after the deadline passes, we'll see a press
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: conference with Kevin O'Connell and somebody will ask him and
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: he'll say something like, well, yeah, we're always looking, but
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: we just didn't find the right deal.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: It is what it is. And we're just here to
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: watch this reality show.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I was definitely fooled by a tweet on Sunday morning.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I'm that dad that I don't have the patience for
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: my family when we're trying to go somewhere. We're trying
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: to go to church on Sunday morning, and they were
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: all just being slow. So I go sit in the car.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: I pull the car. Quit doing that. I go pull
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: the car out of the garage, and I'm just sitting there,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, let's check Twitter and see what's
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: going on. it's game day, you know, got games in
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: a few hours. Actually, I think like the, uh, Paris
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: game was about to kick off. Um, and I saw
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: a tweet that I thought was from Adam Schefter, but
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: it was from a fake Schefter account that said, breaking news,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: the Colts just traded Jonathan Taylor to the Vikings. And
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what the fake agreement was on the trade. Um,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: But I bought it. I was like hook, line, and sinker.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: One of my girls was in the car, and I'm like, oh,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: my gosh. And she was like, what? And I was like, well,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: the Vikings just got a big player that I wasn't
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: expecting them to get, but it's going to be pretty awesome,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: I think. And then I kept looking at it and
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: dug around a few more places, and I'm like, oh, yeah, no,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: that's fake.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you didn't believe it very long
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: because I didn't get a text.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost texted you, and then I was like,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: I was glad I didn't because then I would have
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: been exposed.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: No, I would have been like, oh, it's okay. I've
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: been fooled in the past as well.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: But I was this close to being completely duped.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Well, how did you feel in that moment?
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: I was excited, but I was also a little concerned.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Kind of like I said, I don't know if that's
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: the right move. Again, it's the big, splashy, sexy trade
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: that everybody wants the Vikings to make. But I don't
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: know if that's... it's not the move right now. And
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm, that's the hill I'm going to die on.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: So, and you know, what's going to happen. You're going
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: to hit publish. And as you hit publish, our phones
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: are all going to buzz a Schefter breaking news. And
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: it's probably not even going to be Jonathan Taylor, or
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: it's going to be Jonathan Taylor, like going to the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: giants or something like, so this is all moot point,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it's still a fun talker. I mean, I
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: think we all like to, to imagine the what-ifs and like, oh,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: how could this work in the Vikings offense? Or how
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: could this look? Or what could this improve? What if
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: a deal like that was like a second-round pick and
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Jordan Mason? Because you're allowed to trade players. I don't
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: think the Colts are looking to take on other players
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: unless it, for whatever reason, made the deal sweeter for them.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Because right now, I think you said it earlier, they're
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: just looking to recoup some draft capital. They don't have
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: a first-round pick.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: They traded.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: last year's and this upcoming year's for softball.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Gardner.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, it'll be interesting to see how the next, what,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: week or two go down before the trade deadline.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: The Colts also traded away Quentin Nelson, their top guard.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: I think that would have been one that the Vikings
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: should have pursued. And I don't know if they did
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: or not. A third and a fifth. Gave up a
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: third and a fifth.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: And the fifth is in 2028. 2028, yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: So not a small amount for a guard, but not
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: huge either. It would have been manageable.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's also in the last year of his deal,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: and he's making like $ 20- plus million this year. So I
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: don't know what the Seahawks are on the hook for financially.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: But he's like 30, 31. So he's been in the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: league a while, but he's probably the best guard in football.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: And if not, he's one of the very, you know,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: on that short list. Um, so I would imagine the
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: Seahawks will be looking to, to re-up him, keep him
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: around for a while. And I don't know, the Vikings
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: have three offensive linemen who make more than $ 85 million
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: on their contracts. Uh, Will Fries at like 88, um,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Brian O'Neill just signed like a $ 96 million extension before
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: the season. And Christian Dersaw, I believe is over a
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: hundred million dollars on his current deal. It's tough to
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: have your entire offensive line be $ 100 million guys. I
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: don't know, especially when we don't know what Nolan Teasley does.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: One really interesting trade candidate that came up on this
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Google AI search that I just did, a former friend,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Cam Bynum. That'd be kind of fun. I don't know
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: that they would redo all the crazy dances, him and
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Josh Metellus. There was a cool video that I saw
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: of metellus and binum and a couple of the other
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: vikings guys kind of reuniting on the sideline with cam
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: binum after the game um it was just cool all
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: smiles tons of just respect from both sides and um
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: yeah he'd be a fun one to see back in
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: purple and they need a little bit of depth that
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: safety too if harrison smith isn't you know He's not
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: playing 65% or more of the snaps. Josh Metellus is
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: playing a hundred percent of the snaps. I think most
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: of the time at safety. Um, but then it's kind
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: of this revolving door of Jacob Thomas, Jay Ward, Harrison Smith,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Thomas. Yeah. So it's, it's a revolving door. Like
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: I said, I think Cam Bynum would bring a lot
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: of stability to that. Um, but I don't know, maybe
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Brian Flores doesn't want that. Maybe he likes the in
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: and out and doing more of the hockey line change.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: You know, we're just going to keep throwing new guys
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: out there, keep them fresh and see what happens. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: It'll be, like I said, it'll be interesting to see
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: what the Vikings do, if anything. Um, like I just mentioned,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Nolan Teasley's a like a super first year GM. He
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: wasn't even hired the normal time GMs are hired. He
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: came in after the draft and free agency and everything.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: So we have no bearing on what he normally does. Um,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: we can kind of base what the Seahawks have done
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  Speaker 2: the last few years, but he still wasn't the guy. Um,
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  Speaker 2: so it's all guessing. Also like you mix in, like
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  Speaker 2: what I said, at what point do you put all
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  Speaker 2: your chips in and make the big moves because you
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  Speaker 2: you're six and oh, like you could maybe one or
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  Speaker 2: two or three pieces are the difference. And you go
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  Speaker 2: full Rams like they did a few years ago with
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  Speaker 2: Matt Stafford and Von Miller and all the guys they
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  Speaker 2: signed just to put them over the edge, maximize your opportunities.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We'll, we'll see. And a six and oh start definitely
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  Speaker 1: prompts those discussions for sure. Absolutely. You're, you're sitting in
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  Speaker 1: those meetings talking like, all right, do we need to
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  Speaker 1: make any moves? And if we do, which ones, you know,
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  Speaker 1: So it's an exciting time to be a Vikings fan
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  Speaker 1: for sure. And I just hope that they don't end
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: up 8-9, 9-8 like that 2016 team did. I don't
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: think they will do that, but I definitely think the
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: next four to six games will tell us a lot
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  Speaker 1: about who this Vikings team is for real. The Vikings
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  Speaker 1: aren't frauds. I think we can definitely say that. This
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  Speaker 1: defense is real. the special teams is playing really well
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  Speaker 1: and the offense can hold their own. Um, and as
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  Speaker 1: long as they don't turn the ball over, I think
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So those are my thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Evan, I want your thoughts on this beer.
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  Speaker 1: I like this beer. Um, one thing that kind of,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: and it happened after the first one and then it,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I was reaffirmed in my feelings the second time around. Um,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: that like spice flavor was really prominent at first and
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: then it just kind of died away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't this, like I kept coming back to this
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: really interesting flavor. It just kind of like mellowed out
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: over time. And I don't know that I liked that
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  Speaker 1: a ton. Oh, it was just kind of like, it
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: just made it less exciting. Okay. It's not a bad beer.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I would say that being the classic
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Amber premium beer from Barnetown, We've had a few of
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: these kinds. Maybe they're going for just a nice, solid,
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  Speaker 2: not exciting. When you say not exciting, you're not saying
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: this is a bad beer.
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  Speaker 1: It's just this isn't.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: A strawberry shortcake, apple pie fritter beer.
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  Speaker 1: This is not one of those that's just bursting with
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: flavor on every sip. Now, I still get a little
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: bit of that, but the first sip or two is like, yeah, wow,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: that's Got a little bit of a different vibe than
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: a typical amber beer. And then it just kind of
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: tapered off a little bit, not in a bad way.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: But I wasn't just hit in the face with that
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: flavor the whole time, so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: It's a beer's beer, and I like it a lot.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: The can art tells you all you need to know
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: about this beer. It's a solid 1980s basement beer, and
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: And it was made in Iowa. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: From a place that usually does have those strawberry shortcake,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: tickle my pickle, lemon shandy type, you know, sours. That's
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: what Barntown is usually known for.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: I almost got one that was like cowgirl something or other, sour.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that probably wouldn't have been great.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Not great, Ev. They have a ton of Barntown beers
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: at Ivy right now.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty awesome. All right, Ev, where can the
• 1:15:38
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• 1:15:40
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• 1:15:42
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• 1:15:45
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• 1:15:50
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• 1:15:53
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• 1:16:06
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• 1:16:09
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• 1:16:13
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• 1:16:16
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• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: All right, Ev.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: This was a really good beer. I will say I
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: filled this up. I think my final number was seven. Two. Well,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: good beer. Great conversation.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe best episode yet. Maybe.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Skulk.
• 1:16:35
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