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#42 - Guapdad 4000 · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: with the Nelk Boys, and it almost went left. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy it didn't. Well, look it ended up working
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  Speaker 1: out well, it was. It was very funny. Yeah, Now
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  Speaker 1: to Jesse and those guys. When we were actually like
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  Speaker 1: talking about show everybody your nails. You got to fucking
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  Speaker 1: clear polish on them things. Yeah, shining. How often do
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  Speaker 1: you get your nails done? Man? You gotta do the
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  Speaker 1: maintenance on the kuchie grippers at least once a week,
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  Speaker 1: every two weeks. The couchie grippers. I like that, mm correct,
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  Speaker 1: the consensual couchie grippers every time, every time, gotta be
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  Speaker 1: right every time. That's I think more dude should get
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  Speaker 1: their nails done. Yeah, things be sleeping. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: just laziness and it's just honestly, I was raised to
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  Speaker 1: go to the nail shop. You were raised that way. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: My dad and my mama fuck with it tough, just going,
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  Speaker 1: always have so they will always bring me up being going.
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  Speaker 1: Which side of your family is the Filipino side? It's
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  Speaker 1: always the mama's side, the mom's side. Yeah, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: always the mama's side, right right, right, right right, Like like,
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  Speaker 1: who's the Philippine dude baging? Like you know, a bad,
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  Speaker 1: a bad lovely you know, sister from Oakland, maybe in
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  Speaker 1: the Bay, like maybe like maybe Pilo right like maybe
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  Speaker 1: Pilo out for sure. Maybe definitely not Nico, definitely not Miko.
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  Speaker 1: He can't even get the third camera working. Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: he I'm just playing Nico. I love you yo. So, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know you're embracing the Filipino side. You're doing an
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  Speaker 1: album with the with eighty eight Rising, and you know
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  Speaker 1: you were telling me you did like the Virtual Festival. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was super tight. We we wanted to bring this
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  Speaker 1: album to ady A Rising because of the Filipino aspect
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  Speaker 1: and uh, kind of like the next step aspect. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I love a lot of their narrative content
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of their story based stuff, their documentary stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and their videos are crazy. It's just amazing and I
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  Speaker 1: already got crazy videos, so it's type for me to
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  Speaker 1: connect with them with a team that already came up
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  Speaker 1: with Chris Simmons and the people that we use on
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  Speaker 1: our shoots and be competing and swinging at the same level. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: some of this stuff you were saying earlier that like
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  Speaker 1: Pinch was like the common denominator to kind of you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe connect you guys a bit. It was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things, but that was like the first one because
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  Speaker 1: he was performing at day Festival, the Head in the
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  Speaker 1: Clouds thing, and I was in this trailer navigating, meeting people,
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  Speaker 1: renting to Bryant. We met physically for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: Then we had already had mutual people just because of
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  Speaker 1: Duckworth and the homie drew Banga from the Bay. You
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy because I told this to Brian, Like, what
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  Speaker 1: was that album he put out, Nico a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years ago, Sailor. Yeah, that shit was crazy. But I
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  Speaker 1: feel like he like kind of like really improved as
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  Speaker 1: a fucking rapper, like heavily. Like no, he's dope. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like You've always been dope as a rapper,
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  Speaker 1: but I feel like people haven't seen you in that light.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know, obviously the dream Bill
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  Speaker 1: thing helped, but I also feel like the quarantine bars,
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  Speaker 1: like you wrap it on Instagram, the Rona wraps, whatever
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  Speaker 1: you were doing was fucking It's dope because I think
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  Speaker 1: it like, first of all, perfect bit to do for
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  Speaker 1: you know, the pandemic expects because you were doing that
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  Speaker 1: shit early, like right off the rip. But I also
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  Speaker 1: think it kind of just showcased like your like your
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  Speaker 1: capabilities as an MC. Did you get a lot of love, like,
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  Speaker 1: Hella love I got, I got all the love I was.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I was supposed to get or that
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  Speaker 1: I could merit at the time. From that, I do
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  Speaker 1: still wish it. I could have did more episodes, but
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  Speaker 1: it just was so hard to manage after a certain point,
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  Speaker 1: just like hounding niggas down to wrap in their house
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  Speaker 1: as soon as the world start opening up or we
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  Speaker 1: thought it was Ronner Raps was done. Yeah, you were
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  Speaker 1: like early like when we was really like hunger down
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  Speaker 1: at the crib. Figured that shit out a week and
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  Speaker 1: to me being home, it was Sam's idea. Nice. Sam
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  Speaker 1: brought it up because I told her we was trying
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  Speaker 1: to play content. I told him Abo wanted to do
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  Speaker 1: freestyles and ship, so he was like, you might as
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  Speaker 1: well freestyle with your prot hiss day at home too. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: It was like Joey Badass was on there, Whiz Whiz,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Buddy Currency Earth Gang Mergers was there someone
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  Speaker 1: who's Brown sent you there rap and he were like,
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  Speaker 1: fuck Mike, he bothered me this week. Currency Currency another
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  Speaker 1: another like currency went so did so tight for one
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  Speaker 1: that he cut time off the end of his verse.
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  Speaker 1: Sent it again. It was like I rapped too long
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  Speaker 1: the first time because this nigga just caught up body
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  Speaker 1: while he was playing with his hot wheels in his
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  Speaker 1: closet and started freestylingh Currency's original verse for runner Rest
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  Speaker 1: that he sent me was like three minutes long. Oh shit, no,
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  Speaker 1: he rapped forever, and I was like, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: too long for us to post up. I know. I
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  Speaker 1: was telling people there is no limit, but Currency really
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  Speaker 1: likes So it's like some of the people who did
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  Speaker 1: the Rona raps, like some of those people you don't
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  Speaker 1: have music with. So I'm assuming you're fans and then
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I mean, to my knowledge, you and
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  Speaker 1: Currency don't have music. No, we do you do? Okay? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Currency did a project with DJ Fresh shot out DJ
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  Speaker 1: Fresh from the Bay, and I was featured on there.
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  Speaker 1: I got a song called easy Heart with Currency. It's
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  Speaker 1: actually one of my best best, my best guest verst verses. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If you know spit is on it, you gotta come
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  Speaker 1: with your shit. Oh for I skated on that, bitch,
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  Speaker 1: I skated floated. I love that verse and the fans
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  Speaker 1: love it too, Like people really enjoyed us talk about
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  Speaker 1: the title of the upcoming album and why it is, like,
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  Speaker 1: give us the background of the title, it's called eleven
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  Speaker 1: seventy six and that is the address of the house
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  Speaker 1: that I grew up in in Oakland. I know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people have attachments, like if you if we
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  Speaker 1: look at all the album covers, a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: have attachments to like the childhood homes, yeah yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: baby picked juice And so this is my version of that.
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  Speaker 1: But in personal project, yeah a way more, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all the way me way. It's like my full narrative.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like I really wanted to get this
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  Speaker 1: off my chest so I could move past it creatively
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  Speaker 1: just about talking about my origins, because that's what the
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  Speaker 1: album is really. It's an origin story for me where
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  Speaker 1: I'm able to talk about certain things that hurt me,
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  Speaker 1: certain things that helped me, certain things that got me lit,
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  Speaker 1: just my whole lifestyle before I moved to La. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think because you're known for I would say, like
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  Speaker 1: people know you as a personality, as a character, right,
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  Speaker 1: they know you to be fucking hilarious, the scammer shit
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  Speaker 1: all that. Does that ever hurt you as an artist?
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  Speaker 1: Like having have you ever like ran into issues where
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  Speaker 1: you feel like people didn't take you serious because they
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  Speaker 1: look at you more as like the funny ass dude.
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  Speaker 1: Has that ever been something you've noticed happening. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean people have done that all my life. It's just
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  Speaker 1: like it's like it that way when you I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: when you look the way I do and you carry
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  Speaker 1: yourself the way I do, I'm always in between worlds. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Like I've always been the kind of creative, eclectic kid
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm from Oakland Senior. I's fenna
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  Speaker 1: do blood like. It's it's really a duality that come
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  Speaker 1: on my existence and that's part of the fault of
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  Speaker 1: people not being fully tapped in with that. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't blame them. I'm not mad at it.
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  Speaker 1: It was a time when that was frustrating, but uh,
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  Speaker 1: that didn't last too long, right, And I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I feel like too, just like the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 1: some of the looks and like people who have co
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  Speaker 1: signed you, and you know, I feel like that probably
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  Speaker 1: alleviated some of that as well. Honestly, the Dreamville shit
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  Speaker 1: to keep it, honey, that was like my last chip
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  Speaker 1: on my shoulder, where like I went there trying to
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  Speaker 1: trying to like prove that I belong and I am
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  Speaker 1: one of the best niggas that it can make a
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  Speaker 1: song that y'all can invite, right and after that and
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  Speaker 1: then we went to the Grammys. In that whole ship,
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  Speaker 1: I started moving different creative we still I'm learning how
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  Speaker 1: to scale back certain aspects of just like being Hella
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  Speaker 1: good to make to make the overall experience of the
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  Speaker 1: song more enjoyable, because sometimes you got pull punches, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but like that comes with time. So I'm not mad
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  Speaker 1: at people for trying to It's human nature to look
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  Speaker 1: at this as an ashtray and not as a cup holder,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It could I could have
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  Speaker 1: put my I actually want to move this cup because
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  Speaker 1: it's it's empty and it looks ghetto. You know, we
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  Speaker 1: just get rid of it. See if Nego can dispose
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: of a cup, he can't get the third camera working
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: camera this whole podcast. Yeah. No, like with the Dream
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  Speaker 1: Build thing, who who from Dream? But was it? Eb?
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  Speaker 1: Was it? Like? Who was it that originally like tapped
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  Speaker 1: in with you to to become a part of the
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: Revenge of the Dreamer sessions? Sh Cole? It was, Yeah,
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: that was the original thing. I met Cole at the
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: nice guy leaving Drake's New Year's thing, and he was like, YO,
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  Speaker 1: take my number down before you leave. And I texted
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  Speaker 1: him immediately and he text me back. Right, everyone says
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: that it was so crazy to me. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I tell that story every time because nobody's ever done that, right, nobody,
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  Speaker 1: especial even people who I'm closer friends with now like Bryson.
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  Speaker 1: When I met Bryson, it took him a minute to
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  Speaker 1: text me back, and I'm hell cool, I'm closer to Bryson,
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  Speaker 1: I am Cole, but that just when he text me
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  Speaker 1: back like that, I was like, damn, I fuck with that.
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  Speaker 1: Hella fuck with that. And the homie Ryan at the time,
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  Speaker 1: who I was fucking around with from a previous A
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: label situation, Shout Out Fly Rye was also in and
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  Speaker 1: around the Dreamville camp, so we had Cole bringing me
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  Speaker 1: up right like, oh no, I know that, and then
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of fell into place. It worked out beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: You got a Grammy nomination, right ship. That's forever, forever, forever,
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  Speaker 1: forever ever. Yeah, that's beautiful. You know the other thing
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  Speaker 1: too that I wanted to talk to you about because
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: with the pandemic, you know, you kind of came into
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  Speaker 1: the game kind of uh being nosed as a scammer,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, what kind of it was
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  Speaker 1: that was? Ah, sure, it's still it's still a part
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  Speaker 1: of me. Like I'm I'm revealing uh, chapters of myself
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  Speaker 1: as they come and as I figure out how to
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  Speaker 1: express them creatively. You know. So at first I came
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  Speaker 1: out it was the internet thing. That's what I was on.
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  Speaker 1: I was fucking trying not to scam and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: an Internet baby at heart, so that's what people see
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  Speaker 1: me as. Then it was a rapper because I really
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  Speaker 1: want to be one of the fucking tightiest niggas that
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  Speaker 1: was barred up. So that's what niggas were seeing for me.
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  Speaker 1: And now I'm kind of opening up the full envelope
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  Speaker 1: to just you know, just making good, timeless shit. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering, what the you know, with the pandemic, the
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  Speaker 1: fucking edd shit is booming booming, Like I got friends
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  Speaker 1: of mine that like have made like six figures during
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  Speaker 1: the pandemic off of the d D shit, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: like afraid for them because I'm like, dude, you guys
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  Speaker 1: are kind of turning up a little bit much like,
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  Speaker 1: would there be any sort of advice you give to
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  Speaker 1: anybody who's watching this that might be dabbling in that,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, it's definitely it seems like it's very
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  Speaker 1: easy to get. I mean, for what's available to the
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  Speaker 1: urban community that is a part of the market share
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  Speaker 1: of fraud, all those available or like ready available are
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  Speaker 1: all relatively pretty easy. When it comes to the ed
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  Speaker 1: and any type of current scams. I don't know anything
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  Speaker 1: about none of that shit, but if I had to
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  Speaker 1: give advice to somebody, it would be stay off Instagram. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing. People. People be flossing their ship. Like
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  Speaker 1: you saw the guy who shot the music video. Oh
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: he he. I don't like the slander niggas, but he
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: was an absolute idiot, the worst. He was probably the
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: one of the dumbest niggas that we've ever seen ever
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  Speaker 1: who could do that. Like that's he he's out looking
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: at him the same way some nigga in the bay
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  Speaker 1: just killed two girls and went live on Instagram. That's
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  Speaker 1: all that you've seen that. He's the same. He's the
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: same type of nigga. It's just his song was catchy,
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  Speaker 1: But that's the same thing. This is a crime dog. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and you just in the act when the when the
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: when the lick is hot and told him where he
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: was at this nigga was on Rodeo and he was
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  Speaker 1: still there showing the envelopes and ship. Yeah, like what
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  Speaker 1: the Some people are just stupid, but I mean that's
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  Speaker 1: Darwinism though, was that? You know? Obviously that guy did
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  Speaker 1: that for clicks for clout And I feel like when
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  Speaker 1: when when you first came out, I feel like that,
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  Speaker 1: like when people first kind of became hip to you.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that was the peak of the internet
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  Speaker 1: shit dictating who was getting signed, you know, that was
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  Speaker 1: like it was almost like this battle between like does
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  Speaker 1: the music even fucking matter anymore? Or is it the antics?
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  Speaker 1: Because motherfucking like, you know, ig comedians were getting record
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  Speaker 1: deals and shit and the music was not good. You
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: kind of I feel like we're like a pick perfect
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  Speaker 1: mixture of like both worlds because you kind of figured
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  Speaker 1: out how to be like funny on the internet, but
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: your shit was dope. But was that ever like something
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  Speaker 1: like because I feel like to be a dope MC
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  Speaker 1: and to try to make it in that world and
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  Speaker 1: then not have personality, which you obviously have it had
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  Speaker 1: to have been frustrating, but you know, obviously you had
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  Speaker 1: both both sides covered. But but that era, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, early twenty eighteen, like it
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  Speaker 1: just was. I feel like it was like a dark
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: era for music for like the industry. It definitely was.
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  Speaker 1: It was this dark era for creativity as a whole.
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  Speaker 1: We were coming out of the SoundCloud era and all
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  Speaker 1: of the champions from this whole new fucking subgenre that
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  Speaker 1: just went crazy and blew up and inspired all the
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: youth passed away. Yep. That's depressing as fuck for everybody
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: that is supposed to be like the Young Foundation moving
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: into the next generation. In terms of listeners, they were
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: all devastating and had nothing to be inspired on. Which
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: is why I feel like a lot of the females
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: in the game is getting the opportunity now because it
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: was such a wide open window, you know what I'm saying.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Somebody like Meghan came in, who understood the internet, who's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: going viral, who did all the fucking anime Wiya bou shit,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: but then also had the music of course, people last
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: on and that shit. It was just it was so good,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: so I think that's tight because I honestly think women
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and rap are like shitting on the niggas, right. I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: think it's like, I think we're like in the middle
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: of like the female rapper renaissance. Like well, like this
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: is like the like we're gonna look back like the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: last two or three years, like yo, that it was
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: so popping. Yeah, Cardy and Sweetie and you had Rap City.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah you had all these We've never seen it, you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: like forever it was just Nicki period and you see
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the only one. Yeah. Before that, it was like Foxy
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: and you know, I mean there was a you know
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the nineties. You know, it was the Brad Foxy Missy,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: but like for like twelve years it was just Nicki
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Minaj and then you know, I remember she I think
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: she won the BT Female Rapper of the Year, were
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: like nine years straight or some shit. You was the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: only one, she was the only but she was awesome.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: But my thing is, though, because I just had a
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: debate with somebody about this, Uh, just because she was
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: the only one. Though, don't take away from how much
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: of a legend she was, because that's what a lot
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: of people like to say. She's the grades of all
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: time female wise same, I just don't. I don't even
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: think there's a discussion. I think you could. You could
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: say Lauren Hill based off off of the Score and miseducation,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: But as far as like, I think Laura Hill is
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: a more uh complete artist, like all around. You know
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because sheets we're talking about MC like Nikki,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: like Barred out Hole Monster, do we do people actually
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: imagine Laura Hill out rapping Nicki Minaj on something? Though,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Like I think she could make a better song, relatively
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: probably better album. Yeah, but like can she outrap Nikki?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I always say, like, yo, just listen to Monster, like
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Nikki destroyed Peak, Ross Peak, Hove Peak, Kanye Bruh do
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: you do? I mean, I'm an Oakland nigga, so I
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: come from the I'm a function baby in the function.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: If Nicki Minaj remixed a song, I don't give whose
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: song it was, Wayne j Z. When she did, when
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: she did, when she first came out, she did she
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: remember when she did the Dunk remix the Soldier Boys. Yeah,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I was on the plane with Dwayne. I know nis
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, she did go, she could go. I
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: think she just became a little bit unlikable, definitely, And
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I just don't think that Cardi thing helped her because
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Cardi was so likable. So it makes people think like
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: forget like history almost like hey, like, yeah, Carti's hot
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: and she's much more likable than Nikki, But like you
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: can't just erase a decade of dominance from like yeah,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I think that's a problem that that
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of OG's face in the game is the
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Jay Z quote, will you live long enough to see
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: yourself become a villain? You rather die here you live
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: long enough to see yourself become a villain. And I
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: think that's just an inevitable and wrap look at everybody
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: who we used to champion that Even I call myself
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: roasting sometimes but I don't actually mean but like Nigga
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: that talks shit amongst friends, you know what I'm saying,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Like Eminem, Ludacris, all these people who had all this
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: type of success, but like just when people get old, bro,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: they just aren't cool as they used to be. You
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, That's just how I go. That's life.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I'm less cool Definitely. I definitely feel like that happened
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: with m I feel like the album Dropped last year
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: was his best album in like ten years. But I
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: feel like there was just a block of Eminem's career
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: in the last decade where we were just like nobody
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: want to hear this shit. But he's still rapping at
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: a superior level. Yeah No, I mean, he's a fucking
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: all time great. I just don't think the music just
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know some of the shit he was putting out,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Like you know, you could like look at some artists
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: like roys To five nine, who's as old as am,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: who's but has been putting out dope music, and in
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: my opinion, as just a fan of everything that I've
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: heard from, chose to listen to because I'm not like
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: a super right roycehead or anything, but like I feel
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: like lyrically he he he, on the same dojo level
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: as Emine one hundred percent. You can't play be a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: song that prove me wrong about it? Right about that,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: goat bro, He's one of the most slept on dudes ever. Yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: shout out. He got a lot of love for the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: town too. We show Oakland a lot of love, and
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: you know, because Detroit and Oakland got that that kind
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: of synergy. What is the synergy, Because there is a
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: synergy between Detroit and Oakland, what is it exactly? You know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: it's it's deeper rooted into the history of music, the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: car business, and travel about why we got the Bay
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: area got this direct connection to Motor City, you know
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But aside from that and like just
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the history of business and infrastructure, we just really align
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: our personal values the same way that niggas from Detroit do,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: like the same way they talk to women, the same
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: way they like to go put on cardiers and have
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: side shows. Like we either started it and showed it
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: to them or and they started stuff and showed it
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: to us. It's always been this cultural exchange of just
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: really regionally specific habits that we share with Detroit. Yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I had that conversation. Uh you know, uh, you know
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Empire has a bunch of Detroit artists. Yeah, and it's
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: like Gazi was like, Yo, there's a connection, and I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: was like, Yo, there is. Like when you really think
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: about it, yeah, no, the energy is very It's just
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: all the beats that the niggas's own. It sounded real similar.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And when they started, uh coming into like the internet,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: underground area of like Listener and really start having their moments.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Then Oakland start taking from the beasts that they was on.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: There's even like always a back and forth think about
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Oakland too, like or the band. Historically, there's been like
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: two sides of the music game. Like in the nineties
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: there was like the RBO Posse forty two short mac
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: dre shit, but then on the other side it was
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: like hieroglyphics. Yeah, and like a lot of backpack ship
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and Detroit the same ship. Detroit it's like the hardcore
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: street ship. Or there's jay Dilla and slum Village and
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Royce and you know, it's two to two separate sides
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: of the coin sonically for both cities. We were talking
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: about female rappers earlier. Who's Who's like a female MC
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: who who who? Obviously Nikki aside, but like, who's somebody
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: who you want to tap in with? Uh, Tierra Whack
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Tierro Whack's Fire Yeah from Philly, right, I think, so, yeah,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: she's fire, I believe. So we've only met once and
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: it was it was all of I'll be fanning out.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I don't even hide it when I really be faning somebody.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I gotta let him know. So I've seen I met
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: her at h at the Homie Amber birthday Shout Out Amber,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and it it was just it was hella cool. I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: really just wanted to be like, please get into the
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: studio with me, but I try to be cool, like,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm a big fan. Man. When's the last
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: time you found out with somebody? I feel like I'm
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: missing something. I feel like it was a time recently
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: where it happened. Who have I met recently? Or short?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: It was? It was I was in Oakland, were too
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Short and two bitches eating some fried fish at a
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: at a place in Alameda. It was a double date.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Uh no, I mean something. It was really like two
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: short and two holes and and you were there. Yeah,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: so you were the third wheel in the in the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: four Lake situation there. Oh trust me, I got that.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I got that third wheel rolling though real fast. That
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: is like that there's something to be said that, like
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: you're hanging out with too Short. Of course you'd have
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: two bitches like that that that doesn't disappoint br So
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I'm we're like three slush Margerita's down. It's starting to
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: beat my ass. So I'm like trying to take it slow.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I'm eating hell of the fucking fish. I'll flip it over.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: That's how much of the fish I'm eating. And he
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: looking but he said, oh yeah, I'm with this nigga
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: right now. I'm like what because he's been on FaceTime
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: this whole time. I just been entertaining the host. And
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: he turned the phone and he put me on FaceTime
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: is him? He Forty Ice Cube and Snoop Dogg And
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: then he just takes airpis out handed to me and
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about what. They were talking about nothing,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and then and Forty going hard talking about what's up.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: He's showing me love. Snoop instantly was like, what's up? Netflix?
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Ice Cube? Ice Cub was like who is this guy?
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Ella fucking menacing? But he was showing me love at
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: the same time. But he was so sick. He was
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: literally like this. He was like, yeah, no, Short was
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: telling us, m hm, no, I see, I see. I
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: never heard of you, but I'm finna check you out
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: because Snoop said you creative and I was like, oh no,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you know, I'll be making content, shit, mister Cub. I'd
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: be in the next Friday. I heard Chris Tucker doesn't
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: want to be in it acted as ship and then
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Snoop and Short was like, man, you should direct the
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: whole video. I was like, if y'all give me a
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: song to do it, I'll do it for shure you
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: do it for free. Yeah, I'll do it. Please let
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: me do it. But that was probably my my last
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: starstruck moment for sure. Oh yeah, that FaceTime is crazy.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: It was tight too, because it was really christening me, Like, nah,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: if Short, it's giving you the Okay, Snoop already did
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: it forty partially did it now? All right? QB was
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: on board. We fucking with you. How disappointed would you
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: be if when you went to hang out with Too
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Short he introduced you to his wife that he's been
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: with for like twenty years and like two small children
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: of his and he was like, hey, hey, this is
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: my wife. Yeah, these are my kids. Just go to Applebee's. Like,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: wouldn't that be a little disappointing? And it's like like
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: a white lady with a bob yeah, like hi, you
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: walk daddy, Yeah, what's this falcon about? Yeah? The type
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: of lady who were like, my son is my king? Shirts.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I saw sugar Free, I saw sugar Free in Vegas
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: with two bitches on leashes, of course, and I was like,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: this is thank you, this is what I'm this is why,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: this is. This is how I run into sugar Free
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: at the Planet Hollywood walking through the fucking mall with
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: fucking two females on leashes, and I'm just like, yeah,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad to know sugar Free is still
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: going strong. I'm glad to know that that pimping is eternal.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: It is eternal, it would never die. Like he't like
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: like if I just saw sugar Free walking through Planet
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Hollywood holding hands with a female, I'd been like, damn,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I'll leave it off. The bitch has broa on leashes.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Can you mag the white people walking by who had
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: no idea this this guy was. It was hilarious. Were
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: you a sugar Free fan? Sugar Free is like an
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: acquired taste. I fucked with all all of the flavor
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: rap like we we had one sugar Free song on
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the CD, and that's how I knew who sugar Free was.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: When you like would make the Napster mixed CDs and
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: ship back in the day, it was the one where
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: he's beating on the table boom boom boom boom boom
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom. Yeah, it was that song. So
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: we listed that ship over. We had that and Get Stupid.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: This was how how I first heard the song Get
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Stupid was on that CD. That was it. Who made
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the who made the CD? My little cousin, it was
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: his CD. I think he took it from somebody, his
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: older brother. I missed the days where we like just
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: get random CDs in your car. You'd be like, what's this, Yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: twelve new songs you never heard of? You're like, oh ship, Yeah,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: it was tight. That's how I learned about sugar Free.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Was a fan ever since. Soon as soon as I heard,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I'd rather my bit. I said, oh, man, that that's
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: dedication to the paper. If I ever seen it, you
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: could take bo bitch man. Just don't take my weed
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: or my money. Take the bitch, please have her. That's great.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I said, oh we yo. How much? Was a little
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: b and the bas ship Obviously even before that, you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I always say that the pack really influenced l A
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: sound for sure, because it was the I feel like
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the package in the fashion, well, I feel like the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: pack was doing a lot of like what ended up
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: being Mustard sound first, uh and shout out to Lega
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Stars and those guys. But I always thought sonically the
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: pack was doing that ship first. But then you know,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: a Little B had his run where he was putting
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: out a trillion mixtapes and just kind of became this
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: fucking cult figure. How big of how big of an
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: influence was, Like, you know, I'm sure that ship hit
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: different in the bay, Like I was living in Vegas
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: when the when the cooking and all that ship was
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: going on, and this shit was big there with the kids,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: But I can only imagine in the bag where I
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: mean to me, it was so big it felt already
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: like legendary. It felt like it just felt like Little
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: B was this intangible, unreachable entity that did and said
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: whatever he wanted to say as an internet baby from
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the BAB. I loved it. I praised it. I still do.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I think Little B is till this day one of
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the most influential rappers and hip hop Ever, every top
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: one hundred list needs to have a Little B on it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I don't give a fucking feet one hundred. But like
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: his impact had generational ripples, same thing as Chief Keith
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the way people give Chief keif that praise Little B
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, I feel like Little B was like
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the first you know, if you think about the era
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: we were just talking about like that twenty sixteen, I
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: feel like like little like all of them kids took
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: from like Low B riff Raft, Like there was like that, oh,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: like those Internet figures that were just doing crazy ship.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: It wasn't as much about the music as it was
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: about the person. They were antics. Yeah, it was. That
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: was before the antics became doing things to yourself true,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was just doing it
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: was just like, yo, look at this dude on all
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: these motherfuckers are telling him he could they could fu
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: like you could. God. That's when That's when it was real.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Like back when riff Raft, who I also take influence from,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: and me and me and Riff have had conversations about
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: love riff Raft, he's hilarious. If he would have came
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: out five six years later, he'd be so much bigger, bro,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: he'd be the number one niggas. It was like the
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: crossover into when people started doing ship to themself. And
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: by that I mean like that tattooed he had a
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: world star. He pioneered that for real, definitely for real,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: and people don't bring that ship up now what I
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: say it was it went as far as like a
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: little bee or he even turns in, but he was
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: definitely on the forefront that he was doing it a
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: lot of I'm a fan of all of the niggas. Man,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I fucked. I fucked with all of it. The Riff Ship.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: There was a record he did with Action Bronson called
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: burd on a Wire that Harry Fraud produced that was
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: like like, oh, this ship is fire. Yeah it came.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I also like the one he did with Mustard were slapping, Yeah,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: how to be a boss or how to be something,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: to be the man, how to be a man. I
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: just loved his videos where he would just go on
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: rants and talk about like middle of my like I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: got this lamp from Brazil. It gain't no middle of
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: them all ship. And you want to know, I always
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: liked that. I've always been attracted to that because Mac
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Dre does that too, short does that another influence of
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: mine Dom Kennedy does all them where niggas just start
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: talking about their life. Yep, black gold, black globe, sitting
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: on a Cherrywood desk. Yeah, I got this ship from
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I got this ship from Bermuda. You know what I'm saying, Like,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: that's hella clean to me. Yeah, that's some real ship.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Who was on your album? Man? It is just the homies.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: It's just people who care about me and love me.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I do got a lot of homies, so I gotta
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: be more specific, uh, BJ the Chicago kids on there, Legend,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the homie Tish Hymen is on there, the fellow pedestrian
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: and Filipino Pilo is on there right, and Buddy is
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: on there. Buddy's fucking another just legend. And Buddy don't
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: get enough love. He don't. And that's why I'm making
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: sure that I like to keep him as one of
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: my honest to true godfriends who like goes out of
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: his way to check up on me and my mental health.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I believe one one night I was DJing in Hollywood
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: a playhouse and you, Buddy and a D rolled up randomly.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: It was my birthday. Yeah, that was when I poured
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: the champagne on the poles in the front and I remember,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: just like I forget what Buddy record had just dropped,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: but it definitely wasn't the song to play at Playhouse.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: But I ran that ship. Yeah, we went up. It
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: was tight. There was It's like it was that was
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: my first uh my first like live birthday out here,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: because my first birthday that where I was living out here.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I went back to the Bay. It's kind of somber.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I was like making this transition. So I've been out
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: here a year and I was like, fuck it, man,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: I know all these clubs that want to just give
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: me the fucking wrapper table on the side. I'm a
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: fan to do it. So I hit everybody. Playhouse was
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the last stop. We had the whole our whole rounds
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: playoffs was the last stop. And I had that table
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and I called everybody's like, it's my birthday. Everybody said that.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Nobody said no, everybody said pulling up, pulling. I don't
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: remember if that was when Ad got his horse teeth
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: or not. I know, no, it was prior, prior to
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: his teeth. I always clown adies teeth. I always say
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: he could eat corn on the car better than any
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: rapper ever. He could chew ice. Oh you chew. You
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: do a lot with those teeth. I think his teeth
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: needs needs their own podcasts. He just launched his podcast eighties.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Teeth need their own they need their own pocket. He
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: could have been saying in that table with the fucking
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: nilt Nigga's shout out to a d man. That's my brother.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I love that. I loved the other day. Yeah him,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Simba and Simba. I was just with Simba. Oh yeah,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: you were with casting uh in Pasadena. Yeah, Simba left
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: my spot and then went over there. So yeah, shout
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: out to Simba. He's he's another Bay Area guy. Yeah,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: finally getting some love. Man been out for a long.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I love to see it. He was out before me. Yeah,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: he's in the deal before I even was in the industry.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: So I'm super happy to see him get his light
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: and his love. You mentioned moving to l A. I
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: feel like there's there's there's people who moved to LA
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: and let this ship kind of like consume them because
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: there it is there is some truth to like the
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: stigma of like artists or YouTubers or TikTokers or whatever
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: that come to l A and just the world that
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: you could get wrapped up in and the things that
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: that you might you know, that might carry more weight
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: to you here because you're here that really don't matter. Yeah, like,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: did you find, like moving to La, was there any
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: sort of period of time where you felt, you know,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: like overwhelmed with this shit? Boy, Nigga, I feel kind
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: of overwhelmed right now. It's like a constant state of
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: being overwhelmed and adapting. It's how far you want to go?
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: What level are you trying to adapt to for yourself,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: your own personal goals in your career and your mental happiness.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: But it's never going to stop until you become like
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: a legacy act. But even then, these these people, these artists,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: just built the infrastructure around them to deal with that
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: constant like mental attack because it's that forever. And the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Internet will solidify that shit because when you're not dealing
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: with the sauce to get lost in outside, you're dealing
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: with it on your phone, You're dealing with in your
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: email on zoom calls. You know what I'm saying, Like,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: this shit is forever. That's the job. So it's about
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: how much you want to take. And like I said,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: it's some shit that I got to deal with currently
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: and until I figured it's like absolutely too much, then
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll do that. But I have been thinking about
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: just getting another spot somewhere to like clear myself for
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: this La ship, especially because when you live in La
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: you still gotta deal with being a transplant. Because I'm
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: not from here. I know a lot of people from here,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: and I respect their rules and regulations of their game,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: how they gut, but like you still got to be
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: in this city and navigate such the thickness of the sauce.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: And it's crazy because the world shut down, so you're
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: trying to navigate in the same way to try when
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the world was open, and especially here really shut the
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: fuck down and shut the fuck down. So it's like, damn,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I'm dealing with all of this ship just to like
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: be here. I don't even need to be here right now. Yeah,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: the homie I got a homieh who's a rapper, Mike
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: stud and he he he just said fuck it and
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: he went to Arizona for like two months and now
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: he's in Montana. He's just like, I got to get
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the fuck out of La. Man. Like if there's a
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: time to just take a break and unplug, it's like
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: while everything shut down. Yeah, I go to the Bay
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: tomorrow to shoot a short film connected to this album.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be four episodes about my origin story, me
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: growing up, like becoming when I first started scamming, Like
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: we got a little boy to play me as a kid.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be like a whole crazy a movie. No,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: it's it's a short. It's like an actual like a
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: short film, like a real Yeah, I just seen it email.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I think we premiering them up for Gonna bet and hello,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: shit like a whole it's a thing. Is Idiot Rising
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: handling the production and all that don't know. I'm going
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: out there to seriously act. I got all my friends
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: ready and they've been doing Are they playing themselves? It's
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the only way to do put put my niggas on. Yeah,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: And it's something that we've always wanted to do, So
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I'm happy that I can cross this off the bucket
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: list for everybody. You know what I'm saying, Like we always,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: seriously we wanted to tell our story because I come
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: from a crazy place and I'm a crazy nigga, so
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: like I always wanted to tell that, and this is
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: a good time to at least tell like the general
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: or like a good portion of that. Right after that,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I fly instantly to Hawaii to should the last music
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: video for this album, and then after that, I'm just done.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I'm doing press. What island? Are you shooting in Hawaii?
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I don't even know yet. That's the Hey, look, man,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: shoot all your videos in Hawaii. I want to just
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: stay out there. Actually, I haven't been to Hawaii since
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I was pimping. I went out there to pimp a
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Well listen, wait, wait, wait a minute,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: not let's not gloss over the pimping. So you was
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: actually pimping. I'm from the Bay. Well, I mean I
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: know that it's natural to the Bay. So how are
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: you twenty eight? So you're twenty eight? So you're pimping
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: in the era. Because when I was a kid, we
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: used to drive up and down the Strip in Phoenix.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: There's a street called Van Buren down the Blade, Yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and we used to like bitches would be walking every
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: pimps on every corner, and we were just like praying hookers, like,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: you know, just fuck with hookers. Almost got killed a
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: couple of times. Yeah, you know, chase down by pimps.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: We're fucking throwing water balloons at hose and shit, we're
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: just doing dumb shit. We're like some fucking jackass shit.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: But then that shit went away because Craigslist and the
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Internet started popping. So was that that was like your
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: era of the pimp shit? Like how did you get
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: into pimping? I mean, first of all, pimping got into me.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't get into pimping. The sauce really chose me.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: And that's just how it go being back from the bay,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: when you shining, you look good, you handsome, you're not white,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: somebody gonna come pay you. Somebody it's a bitch out
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: there that won't to pay you. She can't wait. So
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: did you have like a bottom bitch? Yeah? I did.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: That was like your man, you was solitude. Honestly, I
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: just don't have the I don't care. It's hard. I
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: really don't care, and it's it was hard to go
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: through the motions up pimping because you got to respect
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the game, and that's something not to be played with
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: because it don't change. It's forever. Those those rules written
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: in stone, and you got to respect that. And I
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: knew that because I didn't want to come in disrespectful.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: But at the same time I had to consider, like
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: do I care enough to respect it? If I'm in it,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and I don't because I'm a scammer. So like I
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: don't want to call you if I just knocked your
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: bitch and she paid me to fee and now she
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: want to come up under me, I don't care to
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: call you and respect the game. I'm looking at. How
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: long did that last? Like? How long was that era? Of?
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: A couple of years? It was? I was on and
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: off with it. I never was like all the way
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: down stumped down in the mud. So would you have, like,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: you know, just bitches posted up at hotels with the
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: online ads booming like mm hmm, that's really what it was.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: And then backpage got shut down. I pivoted after that
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and I just started having the bitches running to the stores.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I was tired of this shit. Tricks is dirty, and
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: the way that hoos like to live in a bay
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: is just too It's just it exposed me to too
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: many people I don't like to be around. And I'm
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: a super social nigga. I love company. See my house now,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: But it's just was like I saw a picture of
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: your bedroom on your ig looks stellar, stellar bedroom. Thank you,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: thank you. I just got a new rug today. Look,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I'll show you pick I feel like anybody you pick
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: up at the is it is it called the above
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: the Clouds Festival and the Clouds, Like any of those
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: lovely young Asian women would walk into your room and
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, this is it. They do
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: it all the time. Oh that's fire, that's a rug.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: That's fire. It's huge too, it's about it's about here
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: to hear that's dope, yeah, scamboy. Yeah that's in the bedroom. Huh.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out a place to put it
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: on the floor. So when you were when you when
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: you were pimping, what was like your stable, like the
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: most amount of women at one time that were three?
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: That's good. I was my I was footing foot out.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: It wasn't how me understood. Helep me understand this, because
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think people truly understand like the business model
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: of pimping, right, Like, what is your purpose in the
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: girl besides taking her money? No, I mean it's more
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: than purpose. It's everything. I'm everything. I not only am
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I the purpose, I'm also the consequence. I'm going to
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: cause any effect. I'm the Outpha and omega in this situation,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Like I'm your daddy, your boyfriend, your manager, your day
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: to day everything everything. So any services that they need
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: you could, they can hit you like, Yo, this trick's
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: not he's not he's not paying, or I fucking caught
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: gonorrhea and I need to go get the shot I
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: needed to take me to the clinic or pay for
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: this ship. But yo, but yeah ship in the in
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the in the you know, I'm assuming that that there's
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: even if a girl is clean, there's a chance that
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: could happen in that field. I mean. But the thing
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: is what a lot of people don't really know is
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: a lot a lot of like the bitches that's really
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: in the game is some of the cleanest, safest women humans.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I've heard that zero experience. But you gotta think who
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: has chlamydia? Like rappers have chamydia. Niggas like me in
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: the club got namidia. That just been fucking thousands of
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: whole fact, not like the Indian nigga on Craigslist. Not
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: the fucking Mexican dude, not the dentist, you know what
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like they don't have a that's who's paying
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: for pussy, right right, right, right right. It's not like
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: it's not like these girls are fucking fucking like random
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: dudes at playhouse. And it's not like they're homeless like
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: fucking other homeless people, right, They're not in fucking you know,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: they're not downtown l A taking ships on the side
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: of the street. Yeah, like that's what they're turning tricks
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: out of. That's what people think right right when they
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: think of that. But like they're not putting no respect
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: on the on the sex workers existence. They just they
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: because they look at the occupation as something that is
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: so beneath them personally their values, they choose to to
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: to demonize how their perception of that person and they
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: project that on other people to where it's become almost
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: like a standard of how we think about women. Even
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: even mistresses of even even strippers get bad raps. Like
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: there's like a negative stigma and it's like for what
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the native riches ches out facts steal, don't gotta fuck steal, steal.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: They're at house parties right now in the hills. It's
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: not stopping with them. I was gonna say, now only
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: fans seems to be like the Tiger, low key Tiger.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: You could you might say Tiger's pimping right now on
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: only fans. Uh, because right way, because we both are
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: legitimate black males. I don't want to openly well, he's
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: managing the only fans girls. We'll call it managing, right right.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: He's managing is in the business of working very closely
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: with sex work, true, and even even at times being
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: sex work himself. Because I've accidentally seen his dick on
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Twitter before. Yeah, me too. I wasn't happy about it.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I wasn't happy either. I wasn't. It's always the worst
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: when you accidentally see a dick on your Twitter timeline.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: It was Wednesday too, I remember it was Wednesday. I
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: was eating chippole. I still haven't went back to Chipotle
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: because you think it's Tiger's dick. It's terrible. I saw
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Trey songs dick today on accident. I've purposely avoided it.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I muted the word Trey Songs because I didn't want
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: to go to show me how to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: it's in the settings on Twitter. Oh man, are you
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: ever worried about some shit like that leaguing to you?
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Do you have like all the time? Are you worried
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: about it? Yeah? I think any day now, some ship
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: might hit the internet, especially if they got Trey, he's
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: been at it for years, If they got him, I
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: don't stand in the fucking chance would you ever dabble
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: in the only fans shit. I made it only fans,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: and I currently have a few subscribers. I just haven't
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: posted content yet because I'm trying to work on how
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I want to approach it. Because you could, like you
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: could just post fan shit on there. Yeah, I mean
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I think I want to do a plethora of everything,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: like if I got if it's some genuine hose out there,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: or shit, anybody it's only fans. I can't keep tracking
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: who's buying the shit, right, somebody want to get a
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Dick pic for like two hundred dollars or something, I
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: might post it in the DMS or some shit later
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: on down the line. Hey, if someone wants to pay
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: you two hundred dollars for a dick pic, then I
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: would definitely. I've actually been paid more than that before.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: You've been paid for a You ever been paid for
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: a Dick pic? Jesse, no feed pick same same. Well,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: you know we were talking earlier. You probably have nice feet,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: you got nice hands. Pause, super pause. It's gay to
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: say pauls is it. Yeah, it's gay to say, pauls
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: in the Homo it's super gay? Is it super gay? Yeah?
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: So don't say those No, okay, just let it rock.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Just let it rock because otherwise, like, why'd you bring
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: it up? That's fair if we start talking about narcotics
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: and doing illegal ship right and I kept saying, no
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: police ship, but when you were selling crack, Like where
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: did you you know what I'm saying, no police shit though? Yeah,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Like like no police, I'm the police. What the fuck?
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: So you keep saying no homo and Paul's like what
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: I had to stop. I had to stop saying no homo.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's in the age as well. No,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I'm a big dipset guy. Yeah, love Cam, love love
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: that whole just era of hip hop, and no Homo
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: was kind of like, yeah, I feel like we got
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: attest to that because shout out to Cameron as Cameron
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: little Bruh, somebody who often likes to uh, I'm in
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: a similar vein fashion fashion. Yeah, you get what I'm saying. Yes,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: he do a lot and he inspired a lot for me.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I don't even feel like he would say that ship
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if that's true. I think
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I could see hear I'm saying Paul's but no, Homo,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I think I think I think he might let that
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: thing ride. Still you think so? I mean, I don't know.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: He's one of my bucket list interviews. He's one of
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: the guys I've never interviewed. That's like, there's like four
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: or five, and Cams one of them. I'm calling it
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: now because my interviews. First, you have to bring me
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: up in your interview with Cameron. How would you like
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: me to bring you up? However, I'll just bring you
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: to the interview. Yep, you gotta. I'll do the prank
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: when you when you interview Cameron, I'll do the pan.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: See I'm afraid of Cameron, though I'm not. I feel
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: like I feel like Cam is still that nigga. Yeah,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, but you can't. You can't go
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: in there with fear in your herd from Harlem. He
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: gonna smell. I don't know if I prank Cam though,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: because I want to interview him. Like a bunch of times,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: you and I are like boys. I don't know Cameron,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: so I might only have one shot to make a
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: good impression. I don't want to ruin you kill a
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: camic experience. Now if it was like, you know, I'm
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: trying to think of somebody else, whoever the fuck Freddie Gibbs,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: somebody was like my boy, like, yeah, we can prank
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: them all day, but Cameron, I'm like, I want to
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: make it. I was a childhood you know, he's one
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: of my guys. You know for sure? Hey what so
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: take take take me back to the you know obviously, uh,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: you had the viral situation with Russ that that went down,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: and I hated to see that because I'm cool with
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Russ and I'm cool with you, and I feel like
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: you're one of the most brightest energies in hip hop.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I really don't. And I wasn't privy to whatever had
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: been said prior, but I was just like, yo, you're like,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: who fucking hates you? No? I mean just him, right,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what happened, Like, was there some
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: sort of like remarks made that like led up to that,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: because yeah, I mentioned him in a song and he
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: didn't like it. And it took a while because I
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: was so I was so mad at the fact that
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: not only did I in my mind not this him
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I never was trying to dis him, but I told
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: him about it. I DMed him beforehand song comes out.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I don't he leaves me on red and then the
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: first time I see him, I don't even really know
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: him or how it looks or nothing. I turned around.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: He's twenty motherfucker niggas after he snaked me, and I
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: just thought that was wild, as like a nigga, as
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: rich as he is with his network and ability, he
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: could have came at me different, especially since he knew, like,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: it's no way you planning that because he planned. He
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: was the headliner, headliner at that festival, and he planned
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: to see me and have me jump because he was
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: there early. I was one of the openers. Me and
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Smino was just going. He's midday. I wann't open. It
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: was mid day, but still it wasn't the headliner. You
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I feel like he could have
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: went about that way different, but he didn't, and he
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: chose that route. But at the same time, you know,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: as a grown ass man, I did speak on him. Yeah,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: you know, he did look at it as I spoke
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: on him and not. He always says like, you can't
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: tell me how to react to and I think at
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: that time everyone was just it was like he was
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: getting a lot of I wasn't trying to down him. Actually,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I followed him on Twitter and I thought that Russ's
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: and I still do. I think it's really interesting how
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: some people could have so much garner, so much success
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: in the industry, and how they navigate but still not
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: be accepted by the culture. But they are clearly eating
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: from it and feeding some things to it. So that's
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: what the bar was about. But he took it as
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: disrespect and responded accordingly. I can't be mad at how
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: he feel about it. I'm obviously not happy with the outcome.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, but your intention was not malicious with the mention.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I don't even know nothing outright this nobody. Was there
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: ever any correspondence with you guys after that or is
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: it just kind of what it is? What it is,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: keep it moving. Yeah, it's over. It was never no
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: correspondence about nothing. I just think I think that, you know,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: like I said, you're there could have been, but you're
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: such a dope energy and figured. And I feel like
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: on on on his side too, like he's I feel
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: like he gives so much free game to artists, and
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: he puts out so much dope quality of music. I
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: just think you I think that window when everyone was
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: coming at Russ, I just think he probably just made
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: notes of like okay, if he probably he was on this,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: he was trying to be on his hitman ship. It's
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: just really unfortunate because in the perfect world, you guys
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: could have made some fire music together because I know
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: he friends with you, but YD know he can't be
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: in a room with Russ around me, so like you
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: guys have mutual people. It's unfortunate. I mean, I think
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: I think hopefully one day you know, you guys. I
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: mean honestly, at this point, it's I don't even look
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: at it as unfortunately. It just happened. Yeah, It's like
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. And you know, if you
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: guys ever have some correspondence in the future, cool, If not,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. From that, uh, I had
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: some correspondence with with Benny the Butcher that I'm that
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I'm happy we was able to hash out because I've
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: become a fan of him and what Griselda is doing
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: as of recent and nice tight. So from what happened
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: with Russ, you got in contact with Benny what like,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: because me and Bennie had like Twitter knows. We had
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: like a small altercation after the Dreamville ship and it
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: wasn't we was not cool. I didn't know that. Yeah,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: we was not We was not cool. And then the
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Russ shit happened and he was you know they he
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: was going on and he had said something, and uh,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I just reached out. I was able to get his
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: number from somebody else, you know, made it happen, connected
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: with him and we had a we had a talk.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Has grown ass men, that's good respect. Yeah, Benny and Griselda,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: it's my fate. Like between what they're doing and what
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Fred's been doing the last couple of years, it's like,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: to me, like the best round. Oh I love it
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, I love it. I feel like
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: the pandemic made people like in twenty twenty, people were
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: listening to music differently because they weren't at the fucking club.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: They were standing on couches, they were like listening in
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: their headphones or at home or in the car. They
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: were just listening differently. So I feel like that's the
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: only reason why I still exist. It's the only reason
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: why I'm seeing success now, honestly, is because the pandemic
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: forced everybody to actually listen to me rat right, because
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: everybody was looking for what my gimmick record was going
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: to be when I was super viral, when the Drake
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: shit was happening. Now Cole like, what's his fucking He's
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: just gonna have one and be out of there, But
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: it was they was going to attest that to some
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: type of gimmick. That shit was not gonna work right, right,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: they had to pull back, except that these people still
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: fuck with me, and I'm not like Boom Ganging myself,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: who actually doing really well. I just watched his following
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: him on YouTube. He's like turning his shit around. Yeah,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: good for him, good for him, right, But like I
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't I obviously wasn't that right, And people got to
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: sit down and listen to my shit and be like,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: oh shit, this nigga is right because I'm black belt
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: at this point, just like trying to now compete against
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: other dojos and still get better. But it's no more
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: like drills with me right now. Well, the One's album
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: coming out March. It's coming out in March, March nineteenth,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: assuming we're gonna get the movie after the album, Yeah,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: right after, because that's gotta be I mean a lot
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: of editing, and yeah, we're talking about a fucking movie. Yeah,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: even if it's like a ten minute movie, it's you know,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: it's a lot. Single comes out next Friday, Yeah, on
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: the twelfth. That's the one with the Better Off a
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: loan sample. Yeah, that shit's fire. It's called how Many
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Love that record? Yeah. Sam played me a few joints.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: He played me one that Plow produced, that was cool.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: He played me one that I hated. Uh, it was
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: like the Booty one or some fucking booty shit. I
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: don't know. Oh, he played your demos. Probably that's not
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: on the album. So he played me the Pilo record
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like I like this
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: record a lot. It's just it's some regional ship. And
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: he was like what about this one? And then he
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: played this like booty ship and I was like, I'll
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: tell you this. I was like, Yo, don't let him
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: put that song out. That ship is not it. Then
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: he played the single and I was like, this ship
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, he had to that. Nigga was going
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: through the drafts and then he found a miss. He
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: played a mins, so he had to hit you with
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: the cream of the crush that hard had. This should
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: be I was like, this should be your biggest record,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: great record, man, No, I feel like it's going to
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: be the biggest record in my career. And I'll show
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: you the music video after this. We could watch it.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Crazy it it's ridiculous. Fire, are you working with any
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: of the eighty eight rising guys on the album at all? Like? No,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I have reached out to Brian to get him on something.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I see him everywhere in North Hollywood. Every time I'm
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: at the grocery store, like shopping Halloween costumes. He's just there,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: like he's at Whole Foods every day. I think he
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: said he said that he was working on some stuff
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: and he wasn't really recording. I would have no idea
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: that he's popping either. If you ran into him in person,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: he just looks like like a high school kid. Yeah, really,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: for sure, he's a He's such a gene I love Brian.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: He's such a genuine dude. He just liked what he liked. Yeah,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: he's super passionate about it, and like that's it. What
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: about Joji? He seems like a very eclectic individual, very
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: interesting cat. I never met the nigga. I don't know.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: You haven't met him. I only know people that know him,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: like I'm Hella cool with August and he's on Ada Rising.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: He's super talented, and I know he Hella fucks with
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Joji and shit, same thing with Brian, But I never
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know him like that. I'm a fan of
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: his Ship's crazy. Yeah yeah, well shit, man, that was
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: a song that we both was on. But we never met.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: But you haven't linked with him. Album's coming out in
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: March seventeen. What nineteen nineteen? Wait, what's the what's the
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: album name? What's the numb oh? I thought talking about
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: the date. No, well you just gave away to the
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: date March nineteenth the album's come out. No, they named
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: the album eleven seventy six. Boom go get that. And
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: thanks for the interview, man, Thank you for having me.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: And it was a long drinking today. We started with
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: a brank and then we ended up having a crazy interview. Yeah,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: I was super tired. Perfect. I wanted to give you
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: a good interview. Either way. You said I was complaining
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: the blood. You're like, bro, I'm trying to do some
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: shll here, Perfect God,