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Normally Podcast: Abbey Gate is Finally Mentioned in a Presidential Speech · Normally

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Speaker 1: Hey, Guy's friends, Normany's countrymen. We are back on Normally,
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Speaker 1: the show What Normal It Takes for when the news
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Speaker 1: gets weird. I am Mary Cavinham.
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Speaker 2: And I'm Carol Markowitz. Hi, Mary Catherine. We are recording
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Speaker 2: this the day after Trump's addressed to Congress, and I
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Speaker 2: have to say, the news got weird.
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Speaker 1: I mean we all expected entertaining, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, the speech I thought was fantastic. I just
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Speaker 2: thought the reaction and the response around it was beyond
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Speaker 2: I really did think it was a new level of insanity.
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Speaker 2: What do you think?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I am going to sound like a
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Speaker 1: concern troll, like I'm telling the left what to do,
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Speaker 1: and maybe I'm trapping them, But I truly think the
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Speaker 1: best thing to do would just be to sit very normally,
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Speaker 1: clap when you like something, ignore it when you don't,
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Speaker 1: and then leave the chambers. You give him so much
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Speaker 1: less to work with when you do that. I think
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Speaker 1: the paddles are so weird that the Democrats have decided
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Speaker 1: to use and hold up when they're upset, because it's
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Speaker 1: so mimable. You just erase what's written on them and
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Speaker 1: you write new things on them. That's right, why why
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Speaker 1: would you do that?
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Speaker 2: It made no sense. You know, I get the concern
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Speaker 2: troll thing, but I have to tell you that alone
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Speaker 2: in my bedroom with no one around, I am screaming
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Speaker 2: at the screen. Just be normal, like it's not you know.
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Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to trick them into anything. You're just like,
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Speaker 2: can you just be quiet? Can you not shake a
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Speaker 2: cane at the president? What are you doing?
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Speaker 1: It's mildly concerned. At the beginning, they weren't going to
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Speaker 1: let him speak at all like that, there was going
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Speaker 1: to need to be a mass escorting out of much
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Speaker 1: of the Democratic caucus, which would have been bad. So
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Speaker 1: they chilled out after al Green, who was the cane shaker,
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Speaker 1: was escorted out of the room. But I think they're
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Speaker 1: in a true position because they do need to be
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Speaker 1: more normal. And one of the things I tell our
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Speaker 1: friends on the left is, you're so weird that people
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Speaker 1: turned to Donald Trump as the more normal option. Now,
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is many things, many good things, many bad things,
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Speaker 1: entertaining all these not normal, right, He's like, he's definitely
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Speaker 1: an oddball, but he's normaler than y'all.
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Speaker 2: Way more way more normal.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think it was effective, but their
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Speaker 1: base requires that they do things that are theatric and
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Speaker 1: big to stop this allegedly not normal duly elected president.
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Speaker 2: But I have to imagine that their base can't possibly
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Speaker 2: like them not applauding a thirteen year old cancer survivor.
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Speaker 2: I just again, I look at it from the right.
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Speaker 2: If it was Republicans not applauding a thirteen year old
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Speaker 2: cancer I would not like that and so and while
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Speaker 2: I would want the Republicans to stand up to say
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden or whoever the president is, I still would
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Speaker 2: not appreciate that kind of behavior. And I think it
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Speaker 2: would have been better if they hadn't shown up, and
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Speaker 2: that would have been more understandable to me than what
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Speaker 2: they ended up doing. And of course some of them
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Speaker 2: did walk out. I know that Congressman Frost from Florida,
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Speaker 2: one of the very very few Democrats we have here,
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Speaker 2: walked out and then took a selfie with a bunch
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Speaker 2: of other congress people that walked out, and his shirt
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Speaker 2: showed Trump an important message, no kings live here.
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Speaker 1: He said, what what well? And when your behavior is
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Speaker 1: that it gives him an opposition that is once again
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Speaker 1: dumber than any thing he could have ever hoped for
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Speaker 1: and unpopular. Right when you sit in that chamber, Look,
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Speaker 1: I think we have passed the point of sort of
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Speaker 1: like pure motives, and things have gotten more circusy over
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Speaker 1: the years for these states of the Unions. However, when
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Speaker 1: people bring guests, the guests are real Americans who are
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Speaker 1: getting a chance to be in that chamber to do
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Speaker 1: something big. They're being honored for something real. There's a
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Speaker 1: veteran steel worker who has fostered forty children, I mean,
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Speaker 1: a saint walking the earth. And look when I was
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Speaker 1: watching Obama's and when Republicans were there for Obama's speeches. Yes,
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Speaker 1: sometimes these people are used to push certain policies that
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Speaker 1: you may not agree with.
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Speaker 3: Course, Yeah, but the person themselves, in their personal story,
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Speaker 3: you just got to suck it up and be like, yes,
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Speaker 3: because I'm there for that part, right, and we'll disagree
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Speaker 3: about the Medicaid whatever later, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they can't do that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be our moment of unity, and it's
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Speaker 2: just such an easy one for them to accomplish, and
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Speaker 2: yet they still can't. Mike Solana on X tweeted in
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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, Joe Wilson shouted you lie in
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Speaker 2: the middle of Obama's speech, and it was a major
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Speaker 2: national scandal. Both parties condemned the outburst, and Wilson formally
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Speaker 2: publicly apologized very different times. Now none of these regular apologizing.
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Speaker 2: And of course their argument is, well, look at Trump,
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Speaker 2: look at what Trump does. And again, like you said,
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Speaker 2: Trump comes off far more normal than they do. I think,
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Speaker 2: like the most abnormal part about Trump last night was
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Speaker 2: him referring to Pocahontas Elizabeth Warren from the stage, a
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Speaker 2: living that clearly I don't know compared to their behavior,
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Speaker 2: it sort of seems small potatoes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And to illustrate how little they're able to embrace
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Speaker 1: a thirteen year old kid who's struggling with brain cancer
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Speaker 1: who wants to be a police officer when he grows up,
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Speaker 1: and then his deputye by the head of the United
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Speaker 1: States Secret Service as a Secret Service agent. It was
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Speaker 1: such a beautiful moment. Just it was the first one
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Speaker 1: that Chad that made me cry a little bit when
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Speaker 1: his face lit up because he clearly was surprised by this.
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Speaker 1: This is how we'll do two of them. This is
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Speaker 1: how Nicole Wallace responded to this.
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Speaker 4: Moment, and I think this was a lesson in finding
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Speaker 4: one thing that you let yourself feel, and I let
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Speaker 4: myself feel joy about DJ And I hope he's alive
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Speaker 4: for another you know, ninety five years, right, And I
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Speaker 4: hope he lives and the life he wants to live.
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Speaker 4: He wants to be a cop. He knows what he
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Speaker 4: wants to do, and maybe when you have childhood cancer
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Speaker 4: that crystallizes for you. And I hope he has a
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Speaker 4: long life as a law enforcement officer. But I hope
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Speaker 4: he never has to defend the United States capital against
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump supporters. And if he does, I hope he
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Speaker 4: isn't one of the six who loses his life to suicide.
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Speaker 4: And I hope he isn't one who has to testify
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Speaker 4: against the people who carried out acts of seditious conspiracy
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Speaker 4: and then lived to see Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: Pardon those people. Girl, am woman, get it together.
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Speaker 2: What are you doing, lady?
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Speaker 1: What was There's got to be a break in your
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Speaker 1: brain that says, Okay, look, I know I'm still I'm
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Speaker 1: mad about January sixth, Yeah, but it should not be
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Speaker 1: applied to the story of the thirteen year old cancer
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Speaker 1: brain cancer sufferer, like that's.
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Speaker 2: Just who's getting like a secret service appointment.
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Speaker 1: He gives the service director a hug.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, these are just it's beyond And again, I think
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Speaker 2: about what I would think if it was happening on
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Speaker 2: my side, and I would not appreciate.
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Speaker 1: It, right, I would want you to just do the thing, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: like clap for the kid. I saw a funny Twitter
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Speaker 1: back and forth between Tom Nichols of the Atlantic and
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Speaker 1: Kathy Young. I believe, oh my god, I'm discussing what
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Speaker 1: was the proper way to do that, and Kathy was arguing, like,
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe you could clap for him, and He's like, no, not,
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Speaker 1: you can't clap because you're just giving into the manipulation.
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Speaker 2: I hope those two get to the bottom of it.
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Speaker 1: You've lost the plot, my friends, you really have. I
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Speaker 1: believe you have another clip of.
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Speaker 2: Yes, one more clip, let's do.
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Speaker 1: It for the record. And this is disgusting.
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Speaker 5: The President made a spectacle out of praising a young
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Speaker 5: man who serves thus much survived pediatric cancer, as if
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Speaker 5: the President had.
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Speaker 1: Something to do with that. This was in the.
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Speaker 5: Midst of him praising dog Doge. Cuts, among other things,
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Speaker 5: have cut off funding for ongoing research into pediatrics it's disgusting.
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Speaker 1: That was Rachel Maddow on MSNBC.
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Speaker 2: I don't feel like he claimed any credits any you know,
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Speaker 2: by this kid with cancer. I think that kid is
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Speaker 2: doing the surviving all on his own, with the help
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Speaker 2: of his family and his doctors. I do not believe
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump said that he was responsible for the life
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Speaker 2: this kid living.
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Speaker 1: He didn't just didn't really, He didn't even really do policy.
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Speaker 1: He segued slightly into sort of health policy and HHS,
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Speaker 1: but like not enough that it should keep you from
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Speaker 1: cheering for the kid with cancer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a step too far.
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Speaker 1: Now. A lot of the guests were so lovely last night.
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Speaker 1: The widow of a slain officer, Stephanie Diller, was there.
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Speaker 1: She has one one child, one young child who she's
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Speaker 1: raising on her own. Now. Uh, there was Corey Confortoire's
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Speaker 1: family was there, A kid whose dream was to get
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Speaker 1: into the United States Military Academy, who was accepted on
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Speaker 1: the spot by the President of the United States, which
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Speaker 1: is not that nice, at which point he high fives
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Speaker 1: DJ was so good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
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Speaker 1: So a lot of really good moments. I want to
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Speaker 1: draw attention to one policy moment that I think should
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Speaker 1: be a bigger deal than it is. This is Trump
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Speaker 1: announcing something we did not know before the State of
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Speaker 1: the Union.
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Speaker 6: Here's ago ISIS terrorists killed thirteen American service members and
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Speaker 6: countless others in the Abbygate bombing during the disastrous and
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Speaker 6: incompetent withdrawal from Afghanistan. Not that they were withdrawing, it
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Speaker 6: was the way they withdrew perhaps the most embarrassing moment
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Speaker 6: in the history of our country. Tonight, please to announce
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Speaker 6: that we have just apprehended the top terrorists responsible for
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Speaker 6: that atrocity, and he is right now on his way
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Speaker 6: here to face the swift sword of American justice.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to let the applause go on for a
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Speaker 1: bit because you'll see that even for catching a terrorist
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Speaker 1: of isis K who killed thirteen Americans and one hundred
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Speaker 1: and seventy Afghanistan citizens, the Democrats are in their seats.
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Speaker 1: And there was a close up shot too of several
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Speaker 1: just like scrolling on their phones while this was happening,
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Speaker 1: In classic Donald Trump's style, ash Pttel was out at Dulles.
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Speaker 1: I think as the speech was happening, receiving this transfer
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Speaker 1: of custody of this ISIS kid terrorist. And I just
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Speaker 1: want to note for everyone, because you might not know,
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Speaker 1: that is the first time that the Abbygate thirteen service
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Speaker 1: members have ever been mentioned in a major presidential address.
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Speaker 2: That is so wild to me.
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Speaker 1: How is that possible? Biden had three State of the
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Speaker 1: Union addresses after their deaths to mention them. He never did.
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Speaker 1: Their families were not invited as guests to recognize them.
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Speaker 1: They famously behind the scenes tried to get phone calls
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Speaker 1: with him, tried to get face to face face meetings
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Speaker 1: with him. You'll remember when he did the dignified transfer
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Speaker 1: it dover that he was accused of catching his watch,
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Speaker 1: checking his watch, and was indeed caught on camera doing that.
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Speaker 1: There have been all sorts of issues with that administration
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Speaker 1: wanting to forget that this happened. And many presidents have
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Speaker 1: to deal with the fact that calls they make end
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Speaker 1: up causing the deaths or contributing to the deaths of
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Speaker 1: American service members. And you know what you do, You
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Speaker 1: do the hard thing, and you give those families recognition,
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Speaker 1: and you make sure you put them in the speech.
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, his last chance to mention them,
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Speaker 1: he did not, although he mentioned Afghanistan in general, at
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Speaker 1: least once touting something else he was doing. There were
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Speaker 1: also five other service members who had lost their lives
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Speaker 1: in the two months before the State of the Union.
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Speaker 1: They were unmentioned as well, So the empathizer in chief
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Speaker 1: was not that for these families. And those families went
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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump, who Donald Trump notes, he knows well,
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Speaker 1: he's not faking that, right. They went to him, they
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Speaker 1: got the recognition. They brought him to Arlington. You'll remember
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Speaker 1: during at the anniversary last year, at which point the
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Speaker 1: press decided it was bad for Trump to to Arlington
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Speaker 1: after being invited by these families.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: It's so disgraceful, Carol. I'm writing about it for OutKick,
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Speaker 1: but it's so disgraceful that I forget how disgraceful it is.
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Speaker 1: And I just want to add one more data point.
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Speaker 1: One of the fathers, Steve Nacooey, of one of the
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Speaker 1: Marines who died at Abby Gate, was a guest of
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Speaker 1: representative masted at the twenty twenty four last year's State
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Speaker 1: of the Union and he interrupted to yell Abby Gate
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Speaker 1: and United States Marines. He was arrested and charged with
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Speaker 1: a crime, Carol, because they the charges. Yeah, thanks, guys.
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Speaker 1: But that's the difference in how these things are treated
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Speaker 1: and the credit that Biden got for being like Bo's
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Speaker 1: father and just like mister empathizer. Well, Donald Trump gets
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Speaker 1: no credit while he's actually doing the thing.
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Speaker 2: That's right. Ugh, yeah, this is I love that you
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Speaker 2: are writing about this. I love that you mentioned this.
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Speaker 2: I had not realized that abvigate was never mentioned in
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Speaker 2: an official address. That is mind boggling to me. It's,
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Speaker 2: you know, what the thing is. It's obviously a difficult
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Speaker 2: thing to take responsibility, yes, but it's also part of
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Speaker 2: the job, and it's not that difficult to suck it
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Speaker 2: up for a short period of time, say their names,
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Speaker 2: talk about what happened, say that we're going to find
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Speaker 2: the people that did this.
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Speaker 1: Another thing, well, that's the other thing. When they when
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Speaker 1: they retaliated for this, they retaliated against a family. Oops,
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Speaker 1: and got that wrong. So I hope we are now
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Speaker 1: getting it right. And you know, Biden, I think mentioned
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Speaker 1: it in releases. He may have mentioned it in passing
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Speaker 1: when he had chances to lift these families up, when
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Speaker 1: he had chances to meet with them every time they
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Speaker 1: took a pass. And it's it's been appalling to me
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Speaker 1: the whole time, and I think the arrest of the
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Speaker 1: gold Star Father really put the icing on the cake.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely unacceptable, amazing stuff. So I'm well, thank you Trump
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Speaker 1: for mentioning them.
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Speaker 2: We'll be right back on normally, switching gears a little
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Speaker 2: bit to what's happening at the Supreme Court. There was
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Speaker 2: a decision this morning that ruled that USAID must pay
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Speaker 2: out its foreign aid contracts and lifted the freeze that
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Speaker 2: the Trump administration had put on those contracts. Justice Alito
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Speaker 2: had a scathing opinion that included the words I am stunned,
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Speaker 2: because I think a lot of people are stunned. And
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Speaker 2: he also noted in his dissent today the Court make
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Speaker 2: a most unfortunate misstep that rewards an act of judicial
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Speaker 2: hubris and imposes a two billion dollar penalty on American taxpayers.
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Speaker 2: This is so bizarre to me. How can it not
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Speaker 2: be the president's I don't want to say roll, but
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Speaker 2: certainly is prerogative to fund whatever projects the country wants
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Speaker 2: to fund.
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Speaker 1: I don't get it. So this what Alito wanted, and
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Speaker 1: what would have been eminently possible, is for this to
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Speaker 1: continue going through a discussion of the merits at the
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Speaker 1: appropriate channels instead of doing this argument about a temporary
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Speaker 1: restraining order, because his argument is it's not a temporary
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Speaker 1: restraining order because once this money's gone, you ain't seeing
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Speaker 1: it ever again, right right. Yeah, So if your temporary
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Speaker 1: restraining order requires someone to throw two billion dollars out
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Speaker 1: the window, then that's a problem. Now, the folks who
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Speaker 1: were going to get paid by this two billion dollars,
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Speaker 1: some of the parties that sued, they say, well, this
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Speaker 1: is for work already done. I'm willing to listen to
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Speaker 1: that argument, but it should go through the proper steps. Now,
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Speaker 1: what the Supreme Court did is they send it back
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Speaker 1: to this district court, which Alito I think rightly is saying,
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Speaker 1: how can they be the final arbiter on this makes
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Speaker 1: no sense?
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 1: They send it back to the district court and said, like,
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Speaker 1: you need to clarify this. Do I think that that
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Speaker 1: district court is going to act in good faith to
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Speaker 1: clarify this within the limits of its powers. I am
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Speaker 1: not sure about that, and Alito was not either.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's confusing, you know. I spoke to my friend
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Speaker 2: Josh Hammer, who I considered one of the top conservative
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Speaker 2: legal minds he made the point that it sounds like
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Speaker 2: what the Supreme Court is saying is that Trump Doge
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Speaker 2: are a circumvention of Congress and that the president's job
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Speaker 2: is just to hit send on funds Congress appropriated, which
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Speaker 2: again makes not that much sense to me. I get
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Speaker 2: that he's not involved in what funds go where specifically,
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Speaker 2: but it's certainly I think, in his purview to say
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Speaker 2: this is money being wasted. I don't see how.
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Speaker 1: It's not well. And Alito makes the point that a
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Speaker 1: pause to go through the courts to figure out who
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Speaker 1: has power on the merits of these arguments would not
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Speaker 1: irreparably harm people, although it would be a hardship on
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Speaker 1: some of them. However, sending the money without having a
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Speaker 1: process for checking and seeing whose power it is does
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Speaker 1: potentially irreparably harm taxpayers. Who's two billion dollars it is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really disappointing to see Amy Coni Barrett on
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Speaker 2: the wrong side of this. I think that people are
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Speaker 2: starting to get nervous that she may not have been
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Speaker 2: the great conservative hope that people had imagined she was.
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Speaker 1: I try not to get too nervous too fast, but
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Speaker 1: I got to say that ever since the Roberts Obamacare decision. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm sensitive. I'm sensitive. Yeah, I'm also open
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Speaker 1: to the idea that these guys can disagree in good
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Speaker 1: faith and that I don't actually understand all of this.
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Speaker 1: But this one does feel like maybe we should have
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Speaker 1: just gone through the appeals court and she chatted about
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Speaker 1: this some more.
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Speaker 2: We're going to take a short break and come right
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Speaker 2: back with Normally, all the Democrats voted against the Protection
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Speaker 2: of Women and Girls in Sports Act of twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 2: which is just insane to me. They needed sixty votes
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Speaker 2: to clear the Senate's legislative bilibuster. They only managed fifty one,
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Speaker 2: all from Republicans Senator Warren you know Pocahuntas for people
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Speaker 2: who remember held her thumb down as she voted because
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Speaker 2: she really wanted people to know if she opposes female athletes.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, again, this isn't eighty twenty issue. And I myself
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Speaker 7: as an ideologue and sometimes on the twenty percent shide
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Speaker 7: of issues.
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Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna I'm not gonna hate on you
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Speaker 1: if you need to stand up on principle. Occasionally, this
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Speaker 1: one just seems like a real easy win, Like eighty
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Speaker 1: percent of American people are like, yeah, we should just
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Speaker 1: have the women's sports and not the men potentially beating
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Speaker 1: them and hurting them in those sports. By the way,
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Speaker 1: one of the guests at the joint session was a
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Speaker 1: young woman I believe her name is Peyton McNabb, who
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Speaker 1: got a traumatic brain injury from having been injured by
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Speaker 1: a transathlete boy athlete under these rules. And again it's
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Speaker 1: another situation where Democrats can't bring themselves to acknowledge this
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Speaker 1: very simple and popular thing, right because it's a Trump thing.
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Speaker 1: And I saw some people there was some back and
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Speaker 1: forth on Twitter last night saying, well, he doesn't really
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Speaker 1: care about women's athletes.
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Speaker 2: I mean he's shown kind of that he does.
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Speaker 1: Actually, this is the thing, that's what they say that
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Speaker 1: about veterans too. He doesn't care about veterans, right, But
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Speaker 1: he's the one meeting with the families. But he's the
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Speaker 1: one pushing the executive order, right, so generally.
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Speaker 2: Action and not the emoting personally.
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Speaker 1: Like to me, it's unimportant whether he actually watches women's volleyball, right,
21:28
Speaker 1: they probably like it. But if he does or not,
21:32
Speaker 1: I don't care. But if he's clearing the way for
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Speaker 1: my daughters in the future to play safely.
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Speaker 2: That's a win for me exactly. And he has granddaughters
21:41
Speaker 2: he certainly may care about this. There was an exchange
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Speaker 2: on x that I found very illuminating Brad Piquette, who
21:50
Speaker 2: is a state rep for the thirty seventh district in Michigan.
21:53
Speaker 2: He said, he posted, I don't know to call it anymore.
21:56
Speaker 2: He tweeted both of my US Senators, Gary Peters and
21:59
Speaker 2: Eli Slotkinner opposed to my daughter playing sports against other
22:02
Speaker 2: girls only? What a sort to fall on with only
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Speaker 2: one of you at the end of your political career.
22:09
Speaker 2: A response he got from Julie Brisey, who is another
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Speaker 2: Michigan representative in House District seventy three, said, but what
22:17
Speaker 2: are you doing to stop tariffs so Michigan cars don't
22:19
Speaker 2: get eight thousand dollars more expensive while tayotas don't. And
22:23
Speaker 2: what about the price of eggs? Who cares about who
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Speaker 2: your kid plays in sports? What are you doing to
22:28
Speaker 2: help hard working Michigan factory workers and farmers survive? Who
22:32
Speaker 2: cares about your kid? He cares, he cares about his kid.
22:35
Speaker 2: I think that's really what they don't understand is that
22:38
Speaker 2: American parents care about their children. I know, it's surprising
22:42
Speaker 2: and chanting and really not how Julie Bricksy thinks it
22:46
Speaker 2: should work. We should care about Michigan factory workers more,
22:50
Speaker 2: but no, we care about our kids, and so that
22:52
Speaker 2: would be priority one, and Michigan factory workers are certainly
22:56
Speaker 2: on the list as well. But the first priority is
22:59
Speaker 2: our children and keeping them safe and out of harm's way.
23:04
Speaker 2: And what's particularly interesting about this issue is that the
23:07
Speaker 2: trans issue is touchy in some places and some some
23:13
Speaker 2: you know, there are some definitely fifty to fifty issues
23:16
Speaker 2: around trans questions, but sports, biological boys playing in girls
23:22
Speaker 2: sports is simply just not one of them. And everybody
23:25
Speaker 2: with eyes understands why biological boys can't play in girls
23:29
Speaker 2: sports and this whole who cares about your kid? I mean,
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Speaker 2: continue to run on that.
23:36
Speaker 1: I saw in exchange that I thought was illustrative as well,
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Speaker 1: which is Megan McCain brought up Peyton McNabb and said,
23:44
Speaker 1: you know, it's important to protect people like her. I'm
23:47
Speaker 1: glad that the President is doing this. I'm worried for
23:49
Speaker 1: my daughters and Andy Cohen, they're like buzz, yeah, says
23:55
Speaker 1: surprised you're buying into the vilification of the trans community,
23:58
Speaker 1: given the real problems happening in this country, your previous
24:01
Speaker 1: allyship of the LGBTQ community, and the fact that this
24:05
Speaker 1: non issue affects about four people in this country. He's
24:09
Speaker 1: wrong on the facts. It's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
24:12
Speaker 1: of competitors who have taken podium slots and scholarships and
24:16
Speaker 1: all sorts of things from women, But he's totally wrong
24:21
Speaker 1: on the politics. And he decided to dig in on
24:25
Speaker 1: the issue of a woman who got a traumatic brain
24:28
Speaker 1: injury from this kind of danger. It tright to me
24:32
Speaker 1: shows how committed they are to this losing issue.
24:36
Speaker 2: They really are.
24:37
Speaker 1: By the way, when they say like this isn't a
24:39
Speaker 1: big deal, there's only a few of them who made
24:41
Speaker 1: it a big deal. Who required that women athletes not
24:47
Speaker 1: only lose to boys, but stand on the podium and
24:50
Speaker 1: cheer and say how amazing it was to feel so
24:53
Speaker 1: inclusive and lose, Like who was it that made this
24:56
Speaker 1: a national store?
24:57
Speaker 2: Wasn't us? And also talking about you know, first of
24:59
Speaker 2: allmocrats always say that they're there to represent these tiny minorities,
25:03
Speaker 2: and that's the whole thing. They are changing our language,
25:06
Speaker 2: getting rid of terms like mother and using inseminated person.
25:10
Speaker 2: How many people in the whole country are pregnant and
25:13
Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable with the word mother, and I would
25:16
Speaker 2: prefer inseminated person, Like I don't even believe there are four.
25:19
Speaker 2: I would be surprised to find four people.
25:22
Speaker 1: We can't find them.
25:23
Speaker 2: No, they don't exist. I think that if you are
25:26
Speaker 2: a biological woman, even if you have transitioned and you
25:30
Speaker 2: are pregnant with a baby, you still want to be
25:33
Speaker 2: a mother and not an inseminated person.
25:34
Speaker 1: So yeah, and one last point on this, which is
25:37
Speaker 1: that Alyssa Slutkin of Michigan was the responder what do
25:42
Speaker 1: they call it, the rebuttal to this speech. It's a
25:47
Speaker 1: very unenviable position. You have to give a speech to
25:50
Speaker 1: a dark closet with no one after the president has
25:54
Speaker 1: spoken to a joint session. So even if it's Biden,
25:56
Speaker 1: you're having a tough time following. She did a good
26:00
Speaker 1: job of seeming medium normally. Yeah, but this is the problem.
26:06
Speaker 1: Look at the voting record from just this week, and
26:08
Speaker 1: it turns out she's not in line with seventy nine
26:11
Speaker 1: percent of Americans who believe this thing.
26:14
Speaker 2: That's right, This very sane, normal, obvious thing that Democrats
26:20
Speaker 2: have decided to fight to the death, and so okay,
26:23
Speaker 2: let's do it.
26:24
Speaker 1: Let's fight to the dos.
26:25
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