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How to Decode Secret Symbols in Corporate Logos: Sacred Symbolism in the Media (2003) · Under the Docs

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  Speaker 5: this particular presentation. And I guess that when we talk
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  Speaker 5: about conspiracy documentaries that were documentary, he's doing a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of extra lifting because a lot of conspiracy videos
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  Speaker 5: that I remember seeing in the nineties early two thousands,
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  Speaker 5: they were kind of sometimes it would be a documentary,
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  Speaker 5: but that was like the newer wave. Those were like
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  Speaker 5: the college kids that just figured out how to use
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  Speaker 5: Vegas pro or like final Cut on their laptop. But
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  Speaker 5: anything before that was kind of like a PowerPoint presentation.
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  Speaker 5: sort of like one of these a guy stands in
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  Speaker 5: front of a podium for two hours and just talks
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  Speaker 5: for two hours, like an old David Ike presentation. We're
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  Speaker 5: going to get into those. This is one of those,
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  Speaker 5: but it's a pretty good PowerPoint presentation. So it's called
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  Speaker 5: and bear with me. This is a huge mouthful hidden persuaders.
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  Speaker 5: The subversive use of sacred symbolism in the Media. And
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  Speaker 5: this is a presentation that was given by a guy
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  Speaker 5: named Michael Sarion. And Michael Sarion does a lot of
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  Speaker 5: work in astro theology. He still has a really great
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  Speaker 5: pot cast now. But I think in the late nineties
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  Speaker 5: early two thousands he was starting to make the rounds.
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  Speaker 5: He had a bunch of different DVD series. One of
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  Speaker 5: them was called Oracles and Origins or The Origins of
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  Speaker 5: the Oracles.
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  Speaker 1: It was like an eight DVD series.
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  Speaker 5: And he had another one that was The Subversive Use
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  Speaker 5: of Sacred Symbolism in the Media, which was like an
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  Speaker 5: eleven DVD series. We're talking a lot of time invested.
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  Speaker 5: I actually ordered those and I watched them all multiple times.
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  Speaker 5: But I would say that this condensed presentation is probably
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  Speaker 5: the best introduction to his work, and I would recommend
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  Speaker 5: watching this over watching the like eight to eleven DVD series.
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  Speaker 5: This one he just puts it all into like one
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  Speaker 5: really solid presentation, although it is dense. Man, This one
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  Speaker 5: is like eating through like like ten protein bars. Like
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  Speaker 5: after you get through like two and a half, you're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: I'm full, and it's like, nah, you got to eat
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  Speaker 5: these other like seven, right, So there's a little bit
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  Speaker 5: of a feel to that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be heavy for some people, right, Like,
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  Speaker 4: not everybody could get through this, because for every Money
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  Speaker 4: Masters you had in the nineties, in early two thousands,
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  Speaker 4: you had like fifty thousand of these. Because you got
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  Speaker 4: to remember that this is almost like comedy. I know,
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  Speaker 4: it's not funny, but they're honing in their games. So
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  Speaker 4: when they're doing these presentations around the country, they're really
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  Speaker 4: tightening up the game. And then I think this presentation, Now,
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't familiar with most of his work. I was
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  Speaker 4: familiar with people that influenced his work, but I was
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  Speaker 4: not unfamiliar with him as much.
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  Speaker 6: But you could tell that this presentation was honed in.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's not like it wasn't the beginning of this, right,
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  Speaker 4: and when he started he had this, but now he
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  Speaker 4: was able to like crunch it down, which is a
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  Speaker 4: gift and a skill to be able to crunch all
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  Speaker 4: this information down into less than two hours.
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  Speaker 5: So when we plot the course on this one, we're
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  Speaker 5: kind of compressing something that's already been compressed. Right, So
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  Speaker 5: this presentation by Michael Sarion, it's an hour and a
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  Speaker 5: half two hour version of like a six to eight
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  Speaker 5: hour presentation that he already had, and now we're going
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  Speaker 5: to give a condensed review of his condensed version of
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  Speaker 5: his own so that you can kind of see. It's
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  Speaker 5: like a xerox of a xerox in a way. So
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  Speaker 5: I do recommend at the very least that you do
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  Speaker 5: watch this original presentation. You can find it on YouTube
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  Speaker 5: and rundelan Bitch Shoot and Odyssey and all of the
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  Speaker 5: weird places. Again, you just search for subversive use of
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  Speaker 5: sacred symbolism in the media, you'll be able to find
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  Speaker 5: the whole thing. Where did this come from, Well, it's
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  Speaker 5: a speech from the two thousand and three conspiracy con
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  Speaker 5: There used to be a legit conspiracy convention that would
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  Speaker 5: happen on the West Coast every single year. We'll go
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  Speaker 5: on this rabbit hole on like another episode maybe at
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  Speaker 5: some point. But it's a wild story. Conspiracy con tried
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  Speaker 5: to throw a conspiracy cruise and the guy that had
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  Speaker 5: been running conspiracy con that tried to do conspiracy cruise
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  Speaker 5: got like.
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  Speaker 1: Swindled out of all of his money.
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  Speaker 5: He basically met up with some you know, nonscrupulous people
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  Speaker 5: on the internet that were like, yeah, send us the money,
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  Speaker 5: we'll book the cruise, we'll get it all set up.
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  Speaker 1: And he was just like sending it all overseas or something.
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  Speaker 5: So that ended conspiracy cons if you haven't heard of
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  Speaker 5: it before, that's what happened. I think this was in
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  Speaker 5: like the mid two thousands. It'll never happen again, according
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  Speaker 5: to that guy. And it's not really a big money maker,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: If you throw a conspiracy con, if like a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of people show up, like show me where to buy
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  Speaker 5: all the merch right, you get people a little bit
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  Speaker 5: more protected. So it's it's an interesting crowd. It's an
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  Speaker 5: interesting moment in time that will never happen again. And
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  Speaker 5: he gets in front of this small room of people
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  Speaker 5: at a typical convention and he explains that he started
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  Speaker 5: doing a cult research or he calls it symbolic literacy,
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  Speaker 5: which I love. We're going to talk about that a
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  Speaker 5: few times, but that he got interested in when he
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  Speaker 5: was thirteen in Ireland and once he came across the
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  Speaker 5: work at Jordan Maxwell, which is a og legend Jordan,
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  Speaker 5: that Jordan is the one that influenced him to like
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  Speaker 5: really take this serious. And then the very opening slide
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  Speaker 5: after he invokes the name of Jordan Maxwell, so I'm
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  Speaker 5: already a little bit on board. Then he's like, and
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  Speaker 5: here's the work of other people that he's kind of
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  Speaker 5: leveraging his research on. He Mark mentions Marshall mclewin, Gene Ballard,
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  Speaker 5: Brian Wilson, Keys Vance Packard, Jean Kilbourne, Douglas Rushkoff. All
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  Speaker 5: these guys write about how the media and marketing agencies
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  Speaker 5: use suggestive and subliminal messages in order to get you
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  Speaker 5: to buy stuff, in order to get you to believe
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  Speaker 5: things or have emotional reactions to movies and TV and
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  Speaker 5: advertisement campaigns. So you can kind of see this is
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  Speaker 5: the angle that it starts to go. He does a
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  Speaker 5: great job of breaking this all down, and then he
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  Speaker 5: starts making some very specific claims. So he poses this
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  Speaker 5: as if he's presenting a theory, and here's his theory.
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  Speaker 5: The theory is that the Western world as a whole
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  Speaker 5: is symbol illiterate, and that this is done by design
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  Speaker 5: because symbols are so incredibly important. And then he cites
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  Speaker 5: the Bible, more specifically the Old Testament, that in the
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  Speaker 5: Old Testament, this is where this Western culture started to
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  Speaker 5: suppress human creativity and so that only a priest class
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  Speaker 5: could have control.
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  Speaker 1: Over your right brain of your mind.
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  Speaker 5: And he mentions that even before thou Shalt not kill,
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  Speaker 5: is thou shalt not make.
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  Speaker 1: Yourself a graven image.
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  Speaker 5: And the reason why that's listed higher is thou Shalt
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  Speaker 5: not kill, is because they wanted to make sure people
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  Speaker 5: couldn't make their own symbols and they couldn't make their
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  Speaker 5: own artwork. It all had to be state sanctioned and
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  Speaker 5: all had to come from people that basically were in power.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a very interesting concept, and the first
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  Speaker 5: time that I heard that, I've never been able to
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  Speaker 5: forget that, like why is thou shalt not kill the
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  Speaker 5: first one?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 5: Why are there other ones behind? And I've gone down
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  Speaker 5: rabbit holes on that and had interesting conversations. But I
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  Speaker 5: think it originated that seed got planted by Michael Sarion
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  Speaker 5: in this talk.
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  Speaker 4: And he got me right away too, because I now,
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  Speaker 4: again maybe not everybody, this is not everybody's cup of tea,
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  Speaker 4: but for me right away, I love how he gave
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  Speaker 4: everybody shout outs, like he didn't say like he was
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  Speaker 4: not stealing any work.
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  Speaker 6: He's saying, hey, I'm building a pond. These guys work.
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  Speaker 4: And then right away he's like, yeah, subliminal messaging in
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  Speaker 4: the media, and I'm like, got me, You got me
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  Speaker 4: right where I want to be. I mean, it's like
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  Speaker 4: pretty much getting into the Edward Burnees propaganda, but on
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  Speaker 4: a different level because now he's involving television. You know,
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  Speaker 4: obviously this predates a lot of the Internet stuff, but
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  Speaker 4: I think this is a perfect place to start where
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  Speaker 4: we're trying to go. And one of the other claims
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  Speaker 4: he makes with that I thought was interesting in this
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  Speaker 4: first segment is when he starts talking about the Bible
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  Speaker 4: and he's talking about the Old Testament and the Torah
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  Speaker 4: being like the Old Testament, and then the Torah and
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  Speaker 4: the Tarot cards and Tarot being the same thing.
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  Speaker 6: And then he now, maybe other people.
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  Speaker 4: Because I was watching it with my girlfriend, she's not
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  Speaker 4: as conspiratorial minded as me. And plus it's a lecture,
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  Speaker 4: so if you're not into the subject, you know, she's
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  Speaker 4: tuning out and she's like, oh yeah, and I'm like, I.
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  Speaker 6: See it perfectly.
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  Speaker 4: And then he starts going in to the examples, and
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he got me already hooked line and sinker
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  Speaker 4: right off the bat.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's a topic that we're already like sympathetic to, right,
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  Speaker 5: so it's already kind of got our bias. Now, let
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  Speaker 5: me just say, because you mentioned he talks about the
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  Speaker 5: Old Testament was based on the Torah, and then he
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  Speaker 5: says the Torah is based on the Taro and that
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  Speaker 5: the words sound the same because they're basically the same thing.
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  Speaker 5: You'll see that this is definitely his Jordan Maxwell influence
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  Speaker 5: coming out. Or oh, this word sounds like that word,
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  Speaker 5: they're the same word. That's kind of of largest of that. Now,
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  Speaker 5: let me just put in my Rockefeller plant. I have
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  Speaker 5: to otherwise they kick me out of the Masons if
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  Speaker 5: I don't always do this. So technically, on paper and
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  Speaker 5: conventional knowledge is that the Taro came out of maybe
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  Speaker 5: the fifteen hundreds on the earlier and maybe if you
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  Speaker 5: want to stretch it to like the fourteen hundreds. But
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  Speaker 5: there's really no concrete or specific evidence provided in this
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  Speaker 5: talk that the Taro predated the Torah. If anything, it
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  Speaker 5: seems that the Torah would have come first and then
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  Speaker 5: the Taro was like a medieval version that gentiles or
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  Speaker 5: non Jews could kind of do the same thing. But
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  Speaker 5: in like a way and turn it into a game
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  Speaker 5: and turn it into like entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what the ultimate truth is on this.
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  Speaker 5: But if you look deeper into hey was the torah
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  Speaker 5: based on the taro, it's very hard to find supporting
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  Speaker 5: evidence of that claim. So, okay, Mason's don't kick me out.
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  Speaker 1: I did. I did the thing that you told me
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  Speaker 1: that I had to do.
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  Speaker 6: He's good. He's good now.
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  Speaker 5: So then he he's starting to go like into the
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  Speaker 5: past and he makes a really good claim.
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  Speaker 1: This one does check out.
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  Speaker 5: That was the only one that I was like, let
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  Speaker 5: me just contact the brothers and see what they want
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  Speaker 5: me to say about this one. But he also talks
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  Speaker 5: about how Plato in three hundred BC that was actually
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  Speaker 5: older than that, it was like three hundred and eighty
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  Speaker 5: five BC, but that Plato again before Christ, that he
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  Speaker 5: was writing that if you give artists too much dominion
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  Speaker 5: over the mind, that they will cause a decline in society,
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  Speaker 5: and that it's this it's like an interesting tightrope to
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  Speaker 5: walk because Michael Sarian does a great job of being like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: there's these techniques that can be used to manipulate but
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  Speaker 5: it could be used for good or bad. The fact
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  Speaker 5: that someone is doing manipulation doesn't necessarily always infer that
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  Speaker 5: they're like the good guys are the bad guys. So
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  Speaker 5: he's talking about Plato like Plato again, not making a
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  Speaker 5: moral a good guy or a bad guy, but he said,
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  Speaker 5: like Plato realized that if artists get people so infatuated
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  Speaker 5: with like these fantasies and like non reality, that over
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  Speaker 5: time people will become disillusioned with actual reality because all
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  Speaker 5: of their frames of reference and all their expectations are
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  Speaker 5: based on fiction and things that aren't real. So then
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  Speaker 5: they start losing interest in the actual, physical, real like
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  Speaker 5: objective world around them.
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  Speaker 1: They start obsessing over these ideals.
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  Speaker 5: And I think it's an interesting he doesn't bake on
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  Speaker 5: that too much, because again there's a lot more than
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  Speaker 5: he gets through. I thought that was a very solid,
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  Speaker 5: like Dan, that is a good point. Plato was like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: don't give marketing exect. Don't let your kids watch cartoons
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  Speaker 5: all day and commercials, because that'll cause society collapse. It's
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  Speaker 5: sort of the connection that he's making from three hundred
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  Speaker 5: BC to like the nineteen nineties when this happened two
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  Speaker 5: thousand and three is when he gave his presentation, and when.
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  Speaker 4: He started this presentation as well, he said, we will
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  Speaker 4: not be able to get into everything, or this would
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  Speaker 4: take a week.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't say that he's not kidding.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not kidding.
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  Speaker 4: There's so much information, But I do like what you
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  Speaker 4: said that he brings back the history of like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: if you let somebody else entertain your child or give
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  Speaker 4: thoughts to your child with a predominant of their day,
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  Speaker 4: Like if it's twelve to eighteen hours a day, whether
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  Speaker 4: it's a TV or an iPad, they're probably going to
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  Speaker 4: get these their own thoughts going from what they want.
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  Speaker 6: It's not going to be the same morals and the
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  Speaker 6: values that you have.
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  Speaker 4: Because people have argued to me too that like, well,
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  Speaker 4: when you're teaching kids, you're kind of propagandizing them as well,
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  Speaker 4: because you're forcing them to adapt to your moral compass
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  Speaker 4: and your ideas of the world.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm like, I guess, yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 4: So basically it would be you would rather propagandize your
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  Speaker 4: children or somebody else will.
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  Speaker 5: There was also I feel like I caught a stray
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  Speaker 5: from Sarah on as he's doing this talk, and I
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  Speaker 5: remember catching the same stray fifteen twenty years ago when
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  Speaker 5: I saw this for the first time, and he was like,
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  Speaker 5: you know what else they like to do?
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  Speaker 1: They like to do this word play.
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  Speaker 5: And again here's Jordan Well coming out and there's a
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  Speaker 5: little bit NLP, although he doesn't mention NLP by name,
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  Speaker 5: and he's like, you know, you know kids are watching
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  Speaker 5: these days MTV. Say it with me over and over again, MTV, MTV,
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  Speaker 5: MT mt TV. And you know, if you see these
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  Speaker 5: kids watching MTV, they're pretty empty inside, aren't they. And
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  Speaker 5: I remember now hearing it, and when I first heard
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  Speaker 5: I was like.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, I grew up watching MTV NonStop. Are
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  Speaker 5: you saying that I'm empty inside? Maybe maybe I am,
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  Speaker 5: but I just it was funny because this is I
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  Speaker 5: think at this point, he's got to be in his
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  Speaker 5: late thirties maybe early forties when he's given this talk
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  Speaker 5: in two thousand and three, so he's already like boomer,
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  Speaker 5: like he's like, oh, these kids are MTV. They're ruining
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  Speaker 5: you know, culture and societies. You catch a little bit
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  Speaker 5: of a straight from that. But I just took me
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  Speaker 5: back to when I first saw it.
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  Speaker 6: Say to me because I didn't see it back then.
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  Speaker 4: But when he's saying that because I got me in
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  Speaker 4: the stop process where people lose within generations of their like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 4: I don't understand this, so it has to be bad.
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  Speaker 4: And yes, there may be bad aspects of some of this,
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  Speaker 4: but I think if you have a good structure and
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  Speaker 4: a foundation, Because I too was watching MTV, and I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I question everything I'm looking into.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, we're listening to his presentation, but I.
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  Speaker 4: Think that they generalize a lot in these aspects.
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  Speaker 5: Right when when he's criticizing kids watching MTV, I'm like, bro,
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  Speaker 5: I'm thinking about Beastie Boys.
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  Speaker 1: Sabotage right now. I like that that helped me. It
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  Speaker 1: didn't hurt me.
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  Speaker 5: That wasn't like go out and buy the new he Man,
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  Speaker 5: although that one worked on me too. And then he
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  Speaker 5: talks about so he's expanding on this theory that's coming together,
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  Speaker 5: and then he makes a claim that you've got body, mind,
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  Speaker 5: and heart, And now I'm like, now I'm thinking Captain Planet.
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  Speaker 5: But he said that your body has its own intelligence,
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  Speaker 5: your mind has its own intelligence, and your heart has
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  Speaker 5: its own intelligence, and that these that they in quotes
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: they know about this, and that they are sending encoded
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: messages to each of those brains in your body so
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: that they can tell your body want want want, or
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: you can your mind something or your heart something. And
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: then you starts showing examples of this, which I do
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: think are interesting. So one of them is an AD
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: that just says I want want want want want, like
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: that's that's the advertisement, and then it has the logo
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: for the brand. And then there's another one that just
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: has drive equals love. And he's pointing out how just
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: making these statements has this subliminal effect on you. Now
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: your brain is imprinted with drive equal love. Now maybe
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: I drive more, and now maybe I'll buy a car.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: Now maybe I buy car mats for my car or something.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: But it's encouraging consumerism in an industry that was created
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: by an AD agency to do that thing. So now
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: it's having this real effect. And again he's saying that,
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: like these messages are made to go beyond just your
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: normal logic processing and to go directly to like a
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: deeper subliminal version to you, and that it's all being
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: done to manipulate.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: If I'm surprised that, Yeah, advertisements are meant to manipulate you.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: Of course they are.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, especially when you get into Edward burnet Is
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: in general, you're like, yeah, that's like how marketing was
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: created to manipulate you into getting stuff you don't need.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: So then he starts going into how how marketers and
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: graphic designers are essentially the new priest class. That in
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: old times, the priest class that if two countries were
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: going to go to war, if there's going to be
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: like a huge war in a region, then the leaders
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: of those countries or those tribes, whatever, they would go
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: to the shaman and they would ask the shaman to
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: give them blessings from God so that their war.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Would be victorious.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: He's basically saying, if you just jump to the twenty
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: first century, the version of that now is a corporation
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: goes to an ad agency to conduct war on like
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: its consumers or basically warring against its competition in the marketplace,
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: but that this exact same dynamic is happening, or the
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: government or the military whoever, they hire an ad agency
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: to sway public opinions so that whatever endeavor that they're
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: going after can be victorious. And that this is the
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: closest version of a warmonger going to a shaman that
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: we have in the twenty first century. I thought that
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: was fascinating, the way that he makes that direct connection,
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: and that's essentially his main thesis, I believe.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you could see it and it again, these
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: are things that are you're a preaching to the choir, right,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, damn right, damn right, they're shamans. But
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: we got pyanoive American over here just trying to film
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: me with this occult stuff and get his macing guys
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: up all that, you know what I mean.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: I could see these graphic designers in their priesthoods. Man,
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: I see what you're doing.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: So normally I would start going through all the rest
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: of this, but I feel like every other claim that
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: he makes in this presentation is either going to fall
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: under a hitidden treasure or an overboard claim. So let's
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: just get into that segment hidden treasures overboard moments. And
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: speaking of if you're looking for hidden treasures, you should
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: should go and check out Killdemockenberg dot com with Sean Chris,
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: all the other podcasts and content that he's got there,
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: and should go to Paranoid American dot com and Grab
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Yourself the comic book that was directly inspired. There is
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: one hundred percent true that I don't think I ever
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: would have started Paranoid American or written my first comic
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: book if it hadn't at least in part been inspired
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: by this. Michael Sarion two thousand and three talk because
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: he makes this claim in here, and this is probably
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: my biggest hidden treasure, but he kind of makes this
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: claim of like, yes, medium manipulation exists. Yes you can
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: use these symbols to manipulate, but you can do it
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: for like good reasons. You can do it for reasons
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: other than go by this car, go to war, hate
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: this person. You can use subliminal messages and symbolism to
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: get people to care more about these things and to encourage. Again,
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: what he claims is a symbol literacy, so that it's
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: like it's its own language, and that people if you
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: don't understand how to read symbols, then you're living your
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: entire life like not knowing how to read signs, not
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: knowing how to read or write your own name.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: It's just a separate angle of that.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: So I guess I'll lead that that's my biggest hidden
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: treasure is this concept of you don't have to think
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: you're in occultest, you don't have to think you're doing
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: some kind of conspiracy research.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Just becomes symbol literate. Is that easy?
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: And I think that is the biggest hidden treasure because
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: nowadays it gets back to that satanic panic stuff and
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: they're like, if this symbol's there, then you're the bad guy,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: right Like if you have this symbol anywhere, Like people
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: are probably going through our videos right now like, oh, yep,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: you see that that white and black hat and he's
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: got the yeah, you know, he's covering an eye. And
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I think that people are not fully illiterate to the
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: symbolism that they think, ah, this equals evil, which does
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: not necessarily mean that it means that, hey, I'm trying
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: to persuade you. Because there is group think, right there
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: is this idea that people don't just not everybody's like
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: me and you and skeptical and trying to think of like, hey,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: maybe this could be this. A lot of people need
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: something to kind of push them in the in the
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: direction need them to go, and it's either going to
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: be a bad way or a good way. And why
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: not educate people on the symbols instead of just saying, oh,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: that's Satan, don't look at it, don't even think about it,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: that's the devil, Ricky Bobby.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: And to be fair, I don't know if in this presentation,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: if Michael Sarion comes across as one hundred percent consistent
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: in this, because then in the next statement he'll be like,
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: and look at this, there's a thirty three on this, not.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Just the Measons.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: And then and then like five minutes later he'd be like,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: but the Masons used to be good guys. And it's like,
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: but now maybe they're bad guys. So it jumps around
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: a little bit. Well again, we're hidden treasures overboard moments.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: So here my hidden treasures are some of the most
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: specific claims that I remember when I first saw this,
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: and I see it again, it's still like, damn, that's
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: that's such a cool observation. Like all these I think
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: are true, but it could be anything, right. Some of it,
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: just trust me, bro. Some of it is just like
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: laying shapes on top of other shapes. The first big
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: example is if you draw a hexagram the star of David,
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: the seal of Solomon on the Great seal on the
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: back of a dollar bill. Just draw like a triangle
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: around the pyramid and then an inverted triangle to make
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: a perfect hexagram. It does highlight the letters M ASO N.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: It spells out Mason. That blew my mind the first
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: time that I saw that. I don't know if it
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: was from this documentary from Sarahana.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I think it might have been a little bit earlier
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: than that.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: But the first time I saw that, I was like, Okay, this,
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: this feels like way too coincidental to just be like, oh,
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: what a crazy thing. Right then he starts talking about
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: these Disney marketing exec quotes, and if you look at
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: the screen, it doesn't have a person's name. It literally
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: just says Disney Marketing executive. So it's on the level
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: of just trust me, bro, like I saw this, I
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: heard this. I think that he's pulling some of these
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: and a Disney quote from later on in the presentation.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I think he's pulling it.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: From one of Eisner's biographies or like one of these
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: expose a's of someone that worked in Disney. But he
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: has this quote, and it's the quote is kids love advertising.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: It's a gift.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: It's something they want and then he says, and boys,
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: advertising that encourages anti social behavior in pursuit of a
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: product is a good thing. And I and it just
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: took me back because when I saw this for the
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: first time, I had just started working at Disney. It
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: was like two thousand and three or two thousand and four,
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: and I had gone to one of these like Disney
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: marketing exec like sort of like huge meetings, were like
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: one hundred of people there, and I got to ask
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: a question, and look, the question I asked was basically,
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: we had these laws that were being an act in
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: the early two thousands where you weren't allowed to ask
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: kids on a website any kind of personal identifying information.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: It was like it's some kind of a KOPA Child
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: Online Privacy Act, and it was related to I think
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: like Club Penguin.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Disney was trying to buy Club Penguin, if you ever
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: heard of that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: But so I basically asked, I was like, well, if
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: you don't ask them what like their favorite color is,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: and what their favorite song is, and like how old
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: they are. If you don't ask them these things, how
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: are you planning to do all of this targeted advertisement?
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: And he was like, well, Here's the thing is that
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: we're not allowed to ask them that. So because of
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: the privacy laws, you can't when a kid signs up
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: for a site, you can't say, like how old are you?
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: You can't say what's your favorite color, but you can
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: give them the option to set their favorite color once
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: they're logged in. You can give them the option to say,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: like what their favorite food is and all this stuff.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: So his answer was like, we don't even have to
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: ask anymore. These aren't in eighties and nineties kids. These
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: new kids that were being born in the mid nineties
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: of the early two thousands, that they're bending over backwards
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: to tell us everything about themselves, Like they want to
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: give the computer and the website all the information about
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: themselves that they can, and that previous generations that they
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: were kind of taught to like not like don't put
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: your real name online, don't put your phone number online,
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: do do any of this, and that.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: The young kids were just like where do I put
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: my phone number? You know what I mean?
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: So I remember that, and when I saw this it
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: made me think of that meeting. I was like, Dan,
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: these guys do know, Like this is how kids think,
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: and they're reacting to how they know kids are already acting,
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: not the way that I would think that a kid
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: would act, because at that point I was already in
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: my twenties.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: And that's funny you say that, because there was a
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: trend I think it was like ten years ago or
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: maybe a little bit longer that was on Facebook for
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: a little bit and was like what was your first school?
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: What was your pet's name? Like all these questions that
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: you have, like for your your secure double security on
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: like your bank accounts and stuff like that, like things,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: and people were like, oh, my friend, they were filling
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: it out, and I'm like, dang man.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: People are very gullible.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: But it's kind of those people in that same generation
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: that you're talking about, that younger millennial slash gen zor
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: that they were like, Yeah, my cat's name was such
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: and such and and and then you're like, dude, that's
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: your secret code. Man.
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: Now everybody has your information, but they were willing to
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: give it up.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: It's like, do you want to know what secret Game
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: of Thrones character you are? Well, Enter your mother's made
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: a name, Enter the first naked model of your first car,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: and then the last four of your social and that's
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: your Game of Thrones, you know.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Character.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: It's like, that's kind of how the angle that it
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: goes in. Now, so he goes back into talking about
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: how these ancient rulers would consult with these magicians, and
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: now he gives them a name, and he said it
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: we're the Meds, and that he links the meeds to
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: the word media, which again it gets a little it
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: gets a little murky, but this is classic Jordan Maxwell
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: etymology connections. You kind of have to just accept it
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: if you know what Jordan Maxwell that you're getting into.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: And he talked about how the meds specialized in talismans
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: and sorcery and symbols, and that these are the guys
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: that you would go to hire if you were going
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: to go to war. And then he says that in
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: addition to the marketing and the graphic designers that he
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: was making that connection to, he said that the other
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: version of these new meds are like the techno Shamans,
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: that they're basically doing the same thing, but now they're
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: doing it in Silicon Valley. So it's Silicon Valley and
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: ad marketing campaigns. And then he's like, and let's see
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: what these ad and marketing campaigns are doing. And then
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: he just has like example after example of corporate logos
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: and advertisements from magazines and billboards. And so here's where
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: we're going to get into my overboard moments. I'll give
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: you some of the hidden treasures, like some of the
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: favorite ones that came up. So he shows the double
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: triangle of Scientology, and this is one of the stretches,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: but I'm like, okay, it's still an interesting concept that
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: the triangle because the Scientology symbol are two interlocking triangles
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: with an S that goes through both of them.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And he's like, well, a triangle.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Has three sides, and you've got two triangles, so that's
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: thirty three and thirty three is linked to Scottish ripe freemasonry.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: And then you've got the S that goes through it,
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: and the S kind of looks like a snake or
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: a serpent. And here's a picture of the dollar sign
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: that has an S with the two lines, but those
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: two lines are actually eyes that spells ISIS. So now
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: you've got a connection between Scientology, isis thirty third degree
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: free masonry. Like you can start to see where I
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: usually call this the Grand Unification Conspiracy theory where you're
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: like everything's connected to everything man, that triangle and that
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: car and that bird, like it's all connected somehow. It
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: starts going down that angle. But I think that the
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: way that he does it is interesting. And then he
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: and the other main thing that he does is he
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: goes through these slides, is he's showing how certain ad
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: campaigns and certain logos they all follow astrological symbolism to
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: the tea. And the one that he makes the best
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: case for, I think is the eagle. And he starts
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: showing like, why does the Vatican use the eagle, and
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: the Nazis and the Romans and now the American bald eagle,
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: it's supposed to be the eagle. Well, it not has
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: nothing to do with the eagle. It's because eagle used
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: to represent Scorpio, and that the sign of Scorpio is
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: represented by power and money.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: That that's what motivates scorpios.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: So that by having an empire defined by a symbol,
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: and that symbol itself represents power and money. That this
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: is why the Western world has been not allowing you
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: to make graven images. And this is why at like
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: all of your creative thought has been suppressed is because
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: we're being ruled by some kind of scorpio power that's
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: focused on power and money and nothing else.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I also liked how he one of the hidden treasures
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: for me was the Ysop and Pike stuff because granted
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: a lot of people talk about it now, but I
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: like how he kind of doesn't necessarily paint them as
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: like good or bad, like right, it's he does dance back.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: And forth like they're pretty. They didn't mean to be bad,
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: but maybe they were.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: But like, but before this, I don't think it was
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: out there as much.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: I'm sure there was books.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: I know there was, like Jordan Maxwell, but this is
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: like almost the catalyst to.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: The new frame of mind for the conspiracy world.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Like even but it's not an overboard moment. It's like
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: great that it's ripples and like giving these waves to
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: people that they're now getting inspired by it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: But also a lot of people are using it wrong.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Right. You hear people talking about the Illuminati and the Freemasons,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: and the way they talk about it, it's only in
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: a negative tone, like I had esoteric a long time
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: ago and killed the moncking birds. And he talks about
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: the origins of the Illuminati, and when we're talking about it,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: he's talking about the Illuminati was basically founded to fight
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: the Jesuits.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Right there.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: They was founded in the bars like hey, we're under
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: this iron fist of the Jesuits.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: We're tired of it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, that's probably how most things are
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: started now, is it cannot be corrupted over time? Sure,
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: but when you hear the modern conspiracy theorists, they're more.
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: Like, oh bad, Like they don't have that context.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: And I think that's why this whole discussion is important
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: and is a hidden treasure, because then people can actually
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: go through somebody that's giving you the whole context of everything,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: not just like.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah he's bad, bro. Freemasons no good.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: He talks about how maybe the Illuminati was bad, but
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: also that all of the founding fathers were Freemasons, but
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: they were good.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: They were the good Freemasons before it got bad.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: He doesn't say that specifically, that's kind of the intent
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: that like, well, it's some points in history there were
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: secret sieties that were working for good and then they
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: turned bad. And he doesn't necessarily fall And the example
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: that you gave is actually it was triggering for me.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: And again the Mason's told me that I had to
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: say this, so let me just get this off my chest,
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: but that this connection between Adam Weissop and Giuseppe Mazzini
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: and Albert Pike is something that comes up so often
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: even in the twenty first century. Now in twenty twenty six,
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: I guarantee you someone both posted it today on Twitter
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: or on TikTok or something, and it's about this letter
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: from Mazzini to Albert Pike talking about their planning World
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: War three. And this has been set in motion in
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: the late seventeen hundreds and all of the I mean
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: when I first heard this claim, this is before I
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: legitimately did become a Mason, and I was like, man,
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: this is such a smoking gun kind of thing. And
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: I've I've spent decades looking into this specific claim vice
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: Op to Mazine, need to Pike, and as far as
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: I can tell, it is a one hundred percent fabricated It
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: is a result of a guy named Leo Taxil who
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: in the late eighteen hundreds, one hundred years after the
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Bavarian Luminati. He basically was an atheist, satirical, anti religious
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: author and he got this play. He was an ultimate
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: like internet troll before Internet existed, and he was like,
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: I can pit Masons against the Vatican and make the
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: Catholics and the Masons duke it out in public and
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: they'll just look like idiots. Because it was all based
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: on some thing that he made up. So that was
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: called The Mysteries of Freemasonry. He released it in France
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: in the late eighteen hundreds and that did end up
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: causing the Vatican to denounce the Freemasons, and it caused
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: all sorts of turmoil, and Freemasons had to leave the church,
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: or if you were in the church, you had to
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: leave the Freemasons. And then the Vatican finally asked Leo Taxil, like, hey,
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: show us the proof your witness to the Vaticans so
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: we can talk about this more. And when he showed up,
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: he brought his typewriter and he was like, there's my witness,
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: and it was like a joke. It was like, haha,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: I got you. I made all this up. And these
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: claims about Visop passing the torch to Mazzini and then
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: Mazzini passing the torch to Pike that comes later on
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: that all of this stems from that original Leo Taxil
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: hoax and that there really is no valid connection between
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: Visop and Mazzini and Pike or between any of those
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: two people. And the I'm not going to go too
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: much in the weeds on this because we so I
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: have talk about Sarian talks about, but that Visop when
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: he dies, he just passed the torch of the Illuminati
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: to another Austrian guy. It didn't go to some dude
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: in Italy. And Mazzini he was part of multiple secret
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: societies because if you wanted to get anywhere in Italian
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: politics at this point in time, you had to be
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: part of these secret societies. And the one that usually
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: gets reference is called the Carbonari or the Arco charcoal burners,
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: because they'd meet in the middle of the night and
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: burn charcoal. And then there's a connection between Mazzini and Pike.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: That letter I believe is completely fabricated. So anyways, that
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: was probably my biggest overboard moment where it was like,
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: this is the thing that got me interested in the
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Illuminati and the Scottish Right and even in the Mazzini
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: to begin with. But now twenty plus years later, it's like, oh,
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: it hurts to hear it, just because if anyone that
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: wants to look into the credibility that statement. You're not
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: really going to come up with anything on theman TikTok post.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Let me just give you the YouTube comment that was
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: left right now, interesting enough that you said that at
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: the thirty three minute mark.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Again, I had to coordinate this with my brothers. They
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: told me exactly when to say all this. He also
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: makes a claim that Albert Pike brought Scottish Rite freemasonry
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: to the US. That's also very incorrect, and that's not
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: even like a conspiracy in crag. That's just it actually
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: came in the early eighteen hundreds from like Charleston, and
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: it had already existed.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: It came from French and Caribbean.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Explorers basically, and they're the ones that brought Scottish Right,
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: but Scottish Right until Albert Pike created the order out
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: of chaos that like, it was so disjointed that if
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: you went to two different Scottish Right temples across the country,
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: like they would be, they would not be compatible with
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: each other. So he Albert Pike is credited for bringing
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: like a standardization to the Scottish Right, but he did
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: not bring the Scottish right to the US. So again
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: he was like little nitpicky things, but they're very specific
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: claims that he makes that inspired me to look into
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: this way deeper over the last two decades.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: And one of the other hidden treasures for me because
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: it's something that still used today talked about a lot,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: as well as the serpent imagery right when he gets
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: into the medical and that the snake around like a
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: lot of the medical stuff and a lot of corporate
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: symbolism with the serpent, and how that the knowledge is
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: to be transferred. And then that goes back to Pike
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: where Lucifer was not necessarily lose as the devil or satan,
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: but the word was used in enlightenment and knowledge and
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: empowerment and stuff like that. So I think again your
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: interpretation of it doesn't We don't know, because I'll go
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: again shout out again to Esoteric Eddie. You know, his
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: whole Lucifer theory of where it being Saint Lucifer and
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: that being a name used to like kind of degrade
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: him and now Lucifer is Satan even though Saint Lucifer
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: just disagreed with Constantine in them where he's like no
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Jesus was a real person or he wasn't a real person.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: That argument is what created the word lucifer in general. Right,
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: So I think a lot of this stuff gets lost
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: in the weeds because people don't know where it comes from,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: so they go up serpent automatically devil. And I think
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: if you study symbolism to his point, Michael's point is
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: that then you'll know a little bit more. And not
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: saying that everything he's saying is correct, but at least
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: if you the main thing that I got away what
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: it is that we do need.
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: To learn symbolism. It is important.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: So most of the other notes that I have here
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: are things that I think he was incorrect about, So
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: I guess these are these all count as overboard moments.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: So one of them is.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: That he shows a legitimate illustration from a Masonic expose.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: It was either from Duncan's ritual or it might have
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: been from William Morgan's expose that led to the anti
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: Masonic movement in the States.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: But he shows a I'll be ablity.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: It's a fellow Craft handshake, and it shows that when
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: they're I can't do it because I don't have two
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: right hands. But they shake in the hands that the
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: thumb goes on a very specific part of the knuckle,
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: depending on if they're edit apprentice or if they're a
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: fellow craft or if they're master Mason, it goes on
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: a different knuckle. So he shows that picture that is
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: legitimately from one of these Masonic rituals, and then he's like,
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: and look at all these other photos of handshakes, and
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: it just has a bunch of corporate logos, and to
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: a layman that just was like, oh my god, hand
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: shakes are free Masonic. Oh my god, these logos are Masonic.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: But if you look at the logos, none of them
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: have the thumb touching like a specific knuckle, so they're
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: literally just regular handshakes. But to someone watching this for
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: the first time, it's like, oh my god, it's all Masons, right.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: So and this becomes a theme as he does this presentation,
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: because then he says like, okay, let's talk about the
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: number three. The number three is very important in freemasonry.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: And my first thought was like, well, there's only nine
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: numbers total, and all of numbers, there's only nine, and
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: then if you take the number nine, nine is technically
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: three times three so like even if it were nine
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: as the number, I'd be like, well, nine is three
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: times three, so really nine's a secret three. It's a
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: covert three. So now we're talking, we've only got like
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: seven other letters left, but before nine and three, Right,
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: I would argue that all numbers are important to everyone
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: in all groups. Like it's not like the Masons get
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: to own the number three because it's important to them,
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: Like you can't get to four unless you get the
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: three first, right, So technically, like to what group on
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: the planet is the number three not important?
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then go talk to Gary the numbers guy, right,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Like he'll tell you all of the numbers are important.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: And throughout history, as you said, whatever secret society.
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: Whatever group was running things, numbers were important.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: That's like things that you have to use and doesn't
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: translate over anywhere else, Right, it's always numbers, Like, numbers
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: are the one thing we don't have to translate.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Well, he does three, and then he's like, but also two,
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: because the dichotomy is of like light and dark and
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: up and down and left and right and east and
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: west and all these false dichotomies. So yeah, the overboard
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: moment there is just like there's no one secret society
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: that owns the number two, or that owns the number three,
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: or that owns the concept of two things or three
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: things or any number of things.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: So that was a little bit silly.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: And then he gets into like, you know what else
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: is really important to Masons?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: The colors blue and red. Let's look at a bunch
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: of logos that are.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Blue and a bunch of logos that are red, and again,
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: like I've got I've got an instant knee jerk reaction
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: of like, I'm not ready to give Mason's ownership of
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: the colors red and blue, like they didn't. They didn't
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: create red and blue. And if you use red or
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: blue in something doesn't mean that you're doing it for
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Masonic purposes or the Masons. That like, is the sky
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: blue because Mason's wanted it to be blue?
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: It gets into this.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Weird infinite logic missing loop that it's hard for me
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: to get on board for.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Well, see, this overboar moment is important, right because we're
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: going through that right now with a particular place that
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: people keep talking about that that run everything. It's the
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: same thing you heard about the Freemasons, And to me,
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: he does get a little bit into the weeds of like, yeah,
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: it's pretty much free Masons run everything, and it's only
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: the Freemasons.
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: He talks Illuminati a little bit.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: But there's multitudes of secret societies throughout the history of time,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: and I think people hone into these certain groups and
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: they're like, well, they're the ones running it, and you're like, well,
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: they may run a faction of it, right, Like that's
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: just not how the world works.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: And I think it's a prime example of it being
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: an overboar moment.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: But we could use it as his hidden treasure to
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: help people get out of this hold, whether they like
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: it's only this group that is doing everything right. And
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: we keep going back and forth on this. I've heard
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: it through the last like thirty years of my life
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: of where I went from Illuminati to Freemasons.
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: And now it's this group and now it's that group.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: And there's tons of secret societies that people have to study,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: and they all have terminology, they all use numbers, they
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: all have hidden symbolism because that's just how they're called
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: secret societies. Man, you're not supposed to know everything about it. Now,
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: over time we've found stuff about them. But I think
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: they the Freemasons get too much credit, right, Like I mean,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: if I'm a Freemason, I'm happy, like yeah, hell yeah.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: We rolling like I mean, hell yeah that I own
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: the color blue and red.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: You have like Nicholas Cage and hidden what was it
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: National Treasure, where like the Masons are hiding gold under
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: all these like Mason's love that movie because it probably
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: caused a little surge and membership because there's people like, what,
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: I can be Indiana Jones, That's so cool. And then
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: they show up and it's like, memorize this boring script
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: and then show up for meet Lo afterwards and you're like, what,
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: like when do we get to go treasure hunting?
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: So? I and I as I'm watching the Syrian thing
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: and some of these claims, like I feel like I
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: can see where some of them are coming from. A
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: lot of the Mason stuff comes from Myron Fagan and
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: Nessa Webster, who were like a couple super og like
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: nineteen forties nineteen fifties researchers that would make a lot
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: of these claims. He also go and Michael Sarion, unlike
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: a lot of the people that he based his research on.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: I do think he's maybe closer to Jordan Maxwell than
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: some of these others, like the handshake thing, and then
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: showing pictures of all these guys doing handshakes. Then he's
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: got like, uh, oh, I'm part of the club, right.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: He has one that's a longhorn, and then he has
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: one that's like the Satan symbol, and then he shows
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: a whole bunch of celebrities and politicians kind of making
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: all these same symbols, and the premise is like, oh,
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: they're all in this big club. Well, that link of
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: different people doing same hand symbols comes from tex Mars,
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: specifically his Codex Magica series. But tex Mars was like,
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: and if they're doing that, they're working for Satan. And
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: if they're on a checkerboard floor, then they're working for Satan.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Sarih On is way more nuanced on this because even
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: as he's talking about like this is Masons and this
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: is Mason's he's like, and remember the founding fathers were Masons,
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: so they were like good at the time, is the implication.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: So he kind of dances between if it's good or bad,
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: but they are behind it, and then he goes into
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: the checkerboard floor motif, And the example that he shows
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: is like a nineteen nineties airbrushed like muscle car on
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: a checkerboard floor with neon lighting. And it was like,
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: I remember this motif in the nineties maybe eighties nineties
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: where it was like checkerboard neon muscle car. You saw
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: like a million versions of this, they had posters and calendars,
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: and I was just like, so is the premise now
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: that there's a secret mason working for the calendar company?
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: That was like, I'm going to put a checkerboard floor
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: under this corvette and that's going to influence the world somehow.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: Like once he showed that picture of the muscle car
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: on the checkerboard floor, I was like, okay, Like I'm
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: on board, bro, Like I love everything you're saying, but
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: like you're reaching way too far, Like I don't even
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: understand what.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: The point is, Like why is that checkerboard floor there?
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: This is the seventh or eighth time that I've seen this.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: I think it might be the first time that you've
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: seen it. So you tell me if it's a syncroswhim.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: I really to go with a float on this one, okay,
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: because there's a lot of information there's a lot of
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: stuff I agree with.
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: I just would like it explained.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I do like how he does have nuance to it
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: and he doesn't go with everything satan.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: I like that aspect of it.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: I like how he tries to modernize it and kind
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: of leave it in the middle. I do love that part.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: There is a lot of wild claims again where it's
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: all the Masons or Illuminati, and then that gets me
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: the almost tip to a sink, because like I'm like, oh,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: that's where we got a lot of this nonsense nowadays,
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: or where people are honed in on certain groups or
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: certain things.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: That it has to be that.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: But the symbolism is important as well, Like I think you,
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: I wish you would have went more into like some
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: of the Edward Burnet stuff where you could actually be like,
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: oh they use this, this is how they trick you, right, Like, Hey,
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: green's a popular color, we want women to smoke.
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: Let's change the package to green.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Hey, let's attach to a feminist movement so that and
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: be like, oh, what men don't think women should smoke?
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: That to me is more where you could get people
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: to grasp the idea of what not just symbolism, but
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: manipulation through the media. I do think he does a
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: great job. I don't think it's for everybody. I think
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: it's if you're not into seminars and like PowerPoint stuff,
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: you might be turned off by this right away. But
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: I do think it's a good watch. I don't want
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: to discredit it, but I got to give it a float.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I think we're aligned on this again.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: But I came from it's obviously going to be a
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: swim to like the more I watched it, I realized
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: that it maybe didn't hold up great over the last
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: twenty plus years. That some of the things that literally
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: inspired me to even pursue working on comics and like
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: putting conspiracy and occult research into some kind of like
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: a creative endeavor, like it came from talks like this.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: But as I go back and I watch it, I'm like, man,
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: a lot of this is just like just everyone's catching strings.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: You're just firing in every direction, like, oh, I must
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: have hit something, right, I got to have hit something.
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: I shot in every direction, so I had to, so
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: I get that feel from it. So I mean, I'm
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: very much like it's a swim, but maybe it's turning
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: into a flow. It's like maybe a ten percent swim
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: and ninety percent float, so somewhere in that area.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Because I I want.
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: To highly encourage anyone to watch this, but also even
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: knowing that this is right up my alley and that
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: I ate this up when it first came out and
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: I saw it. But on this like seventh or eighth
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: rewatch that I did for this episode, I was checking
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: my phone here and there. I was kind of like checking,
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: you know, how far, oh, how many more clips that
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: we have to go through? So like, and part of
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: it was that I've heard it before, but a lot
• 49:40
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