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Set 1: Raising the Banner (w/ Ariel Helwani) · Stugotz and Company

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Woo!
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  Speaker 2: Still gots.
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  Speaker 1: Woo!
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  Speaker 3: I got to be honest with you, Bruce, there's a
• 0:03
  Speaker 3: good chance I'd be high anyway.
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Woo!
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  Speaker 2: And I'm wondering how the football weekend was. Were you
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: able to watch it? Wow, what happened? Oh, I'm tired
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: of him. I'm serious. How about that?
• 0:14
  Speaker 4: In company. We are mother shuckers, baby.
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: Woo!
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  Speaker 5: Bruce, does Faison Brandon's name sound like it's on backwards?
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  Speaker 2: No doubt.
• 0:21
  Speaker 5: It's time to get your.
• 0:23
  Speaker 5: It's time to get your financials. To get the all boat.
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: You got nothing right there. This is not going well.
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: This is Stugatz and Company. Stu, back to you. Taylor,
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: put it on the poll, please. At Stugatz 790 on X.
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: Holy shit. The Sixers are good.
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  Speaker 5: I don't understand this narrative coming out of that game.
• 0:48
  Speaker 5: It makes me question if you watch the Knicks-Sixers game
• 0:52
  Speaker 5: because that game was so ugly. Both teams shot the
• 0:55
  Speaker 5: ball so poorly. The 76ers defense got enough stops late.
• 0:59
  Speaker 5: So if you want to give the 76ers credit for anything,
• 1:02
  Speaker 5: it's their defensive effort.
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: It was game one for a team throwing a lot
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  Speaker 5: of moving parts together and one that still has to
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  Speaker 5: build chemistry. But I don't understand the narrative today that
• 1:11
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden this Sixers team is now the
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  Speaker 5: team to beat in the Eastern conference.
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying if they were playing that well together
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  Speaker 3: in game one, imagine what that's going to look like,
• 1:20
  Speaker 3: like game 82 and LeBron's their fourth best player.
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  Speaker 5: But Mikey, tell me if you agree with this point,
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  Speaker 5: if there's one game, you absolutely don't want to play Philadelphia.
• 1:30
  Speaker 5: It's game one of the regular season where LeBron James,
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  Speaker 5: he's as fresh as he's.
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  Speaker 2: Going to be all year.
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  Speaker 5: Joel Embiid is as healthy as he's going to be
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  Speaker 5: all year. Of course, even if you're putting all these
• 1:42
  Speaker 5: pieces together, of course Philadelphia is dangerous in October. But
• 1:45
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden, I'm supposed to be scared of
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  Speaker 5: Philadelphia because they beat the Knicks on opening night when
• 1:49
  Speaker 5: we had the banner distraction?
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  Speaker 3: Me saying Philly is good is not an indictment on
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  Speaker 3: the reigning champion New York Knicks. We hung a banner
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  Speaker 3: last night at the Mecca. I didn't say the Knicks
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  Speaker 3: were bad. I just said, holy shit, the Sixers are good.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: Let's just see.
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  Speaker 5: The Sixers get to April healthy before we start handing
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  Speaker 5: them the Eastern Conference.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. I'm not handing them anything.
• 2:08
  Speaker 5: You are handing them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just pointing out that they're good.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, it's absolutely crazy, Stu, that you make it seem
• 2:16
  Speaker 6: like the 76ers are the team to beat in the East.
• 2:19
  Speaker 4: That's just ridiculous. It's the Celtics. We know that.
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  Speaker 5: They choked that lead away.
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  Speaker 2: They did, yes.
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  Speaker 3: And Izzy let us know about it because he doesn't
• 2:28
  Speaker 3: think the Celtics are going to be very good. Taylor,
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: I wasn't saying I'm concerned about the Knicks. I would
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: have liked to have seen them in better shape. Mikael
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: Bridges spent the entire offseason drinking. I'm just saying the
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  Speaker 3: Knicks are going to be fine. The Sixers are really,
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  Speaker 3: really good.
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  Speaker 2: That's all. That's all.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, we played them in the Eastern Conference Finals a
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  Speaker 3: year ago, right? They upset Boston. We played them in
• 2:50
  Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference Finals. That was without Jalen Brown and
• 2:53
  Speaker 3: LeBron James.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 5: So the Knicks have something that I agree with you.
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  Speaker 5: The Knicks are going to be fine because I think it's.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: That's what you heard.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he heard.
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  Speaker 4: Yes. He heard.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: He heard.
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  Speaker 1: Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
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  Speaker 4: Knicks are going to be fine.
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  Speaker 2: Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
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  Speaker 5: Because you have Jalen Brunson, OGN and OB, Mikkel Bridges
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  Speaker 5: combining for 11 of 39 from the field like. That
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  Speaker 5: trio is not going to shoot that poorly on a
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  Speaker 5: night-to-night basis. And if you're comparing New York and Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 5: New York at least has the proof of concept where
• 3:28
  Speaker 5: they're bringing back virtually the entire team that just won
• 3:31
  Speaker 5: an NBA championship minus one. Mitchell Robinson. We've replaced Mitchell
• 3:34
  Speaker 5: Robinson with Andre Drummond. I started to try to get
• 3:37
  Speaker 5: my MVP tickets in for Andre Drummond. That start he had.
• 3:41
  Speaker 5: And then you saw him.
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  Speaker 2: And then you realize he's not in shape.
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  Speaker 5: You saw him go up for one lob. And he
• 3:46
  Speaker 5: came down so slow that I thought his knees were
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  Speaker 5: going to disintegrate.
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  Speaker 3: And LeBron could still go and get up and get
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  Speaker 3: a lob and throw it down. At the age of
• 3:57
  Speaker 3: 41 and Reggie Miller sitting courtside calling that game saying,
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: when I was 41, I needed a ladder.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, but with this Knicks team, we've at
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  Speaker 5: least seen this group win when it matters. We've seen
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  Speaker 5: them flip the switch in the playoffs where right now
• 4:12
  Speaker 5: the Knicks spent 53 years trying to win a championship.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going to let the first 24 hours after
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  Speaker 5: watching them raise the banner to start complaining about a
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  Speaker 5: basketball game in October. And I think if you're a
• 4:24
  Speaker 5: New York fan, It's impossible to ask Knicks fans to
• 4:27
  Speaker 5: separate banner night from what happened on the court with
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  Speaker 5: that weight, with the emotions in Madison Square Garden. It's
• 4:34
  Speaker 5: generations of fans that lived. not knowing if they would
• 4:38
  Speaker 5: ever see their team raise that banner. And also, how
• 4:41
  Speaker 5: good did that NBA cup banner look, too? I knew
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  Speaker 5: they were going to raise that cup.
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  Speaker 2: Banner, by the way. Yes, I mean, we have two
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  Speaker 2: banners now.
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  Speaker 5: The second they won the Larry O'Brien, there was no
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  Speaker 5: debate whether or not that cup banner.
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  Speaker 6: Was going up, too.
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: All he's hearing is me criticizing the Knicks. You are
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: criticizing the Knicks. I haven't criticized them once outside of
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: McHale Bridges.
• 5:01
  Speaker 5: I am more mad at your Sixers praise right now.
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  Speaker 2: Right. You're taking it as Knicks criticism?
• 5:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're falling for the Sixers slop. They're just throwing
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  Speaker 5: sloppy Joes at you right now, trying to distract you. Like, okay, LeBron.
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  Speaker 4: Sloppy LeBrons.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's ridiculous. I can't say a single
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  Speaker 3: bad thing about the Knicks. It was one of the
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  Speaker 3: great nights of my life. What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 3: I was emotional in my living room as they were
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  Speaker 3: raising the banner.
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  Speaker 2: Were you?
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  Speaker 5: No, so this is what I was just going to
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  Speaker 5: ask Mikey. Mikey, do you think it's strange that I
• 5:33
  Speaker 5: wasn't really emotional when I was watching the banner? Like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to judge people for, for like, if
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  Speaker 5: they were crying there, don't want to do that. But
• 5:41
  Speaker 5: when I'm watching Tracy Morgan, basically like weeping on the sideline,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, it feels like we had this moment in
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  Speaker 5: June already. And now we're just kind of rehashing that emotion.
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  Speaker 6: I look at you a little differently if you don't
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  Speaker 6: get a little– I mean, openly weeping is a little.
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  Speaker 4: Much for me.
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  Speaker 5: Chills.
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  Speaker 6: What if I got chills? But if you got chills,
• 6:02
  Speaker 6: if you're like, wow. Like if you were stunned silence,
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  Speaker 6: I'd be okay with it. But for you to say
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  Speaker 6: after you declared Jalen Brunson changed your life in the
• 6:12
  Speaker 6: opening playoff series and then– To just have the experience
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  Speaker 6: you did following that Knicks team throughout the playoffs and
• 6:22
  Speaker 6: through the championship. For you to watch the banner get
• 6:25
  Speaker 6: raised at the Mecca and at least not get a
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  Speaker 6: little bit emotional. Yeah, I'm wondering if you really loved
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  Speaker 6: it or if you just liked the ride.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's criticizing the Knicks. Good.
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  Speaker 3: The one person I know who was emotional and was
• 6:43
  Speaker 3: in that building last night was Ariel Hawani.
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  Speaker 2: He was on with us.
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  Speaker 3: After every Knicks win during the playoffs, and he will
• 6:49
  Speaker 3: join us here in about five to ten minutes because
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  Speaker 3: he took his kids to the game last night.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this championship has cost him six figures.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to say, where did.
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  Speaker 6: He get $ 1, 800 a.
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  Speaker 2: Ticket to go to that game?
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  Speaker 4: Go watch them get run out the building by Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 4: A far superior team.
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  Speaker 5: I'm telling you right now, Mikey.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's doing well.
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  Speaker 5: Ariel is doing well for himself.
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  Speaker 2: Very well. Well, Wani.
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  Speaker 3: He's doing well. He took his kids. I mean, what
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  Speaker 3: a great night. It made me emotional. I texted him
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  Speaker 3: after the game.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and one.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, well, no, I guess this mindset I can't get
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  Speaker 5: behind for now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, can we play five games first before
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: you start getting upset?
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  Speaker 2: Can we play five games? The mindset, I understand.
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: You don't want me to be like that, I guess,
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  Speaker 3: lackadaisical in terms of my Knicks fandom the entire season.
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  Speaker 3: I will listen. If they start the season 2-8, I
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  Speaker 3: promise you, I will be emotional. I'll start getting fired up.
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 5: So there's almost no situation where I'm going to get
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  Speaker 5: angry with the Knicks this season where... The only thing
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  Speaker 5: that I could think of that would bring me to
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  Speaker 5: an anger level is.
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  Speaker 2: Is Brian Cashman?
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  Speaker 5: No, Knicks related.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, sorry.
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  Speaker 5: The only thing that could bring me to an anger
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  Speaker 5: level is if the Knicks just decide, like, we're not
• 8:09
  Speaker 5: going to give Cat an extension. We're not going to
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  Speaker 5: give Josh Hart an extension. We're not even going to
• 8:13
  Speaker 5: get to the playoffs. We're just going to blow it up,
• 8:15
  Speaker 5: which is like, why would the Knicks even do that
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  Speaker 5: when you see what the... this team could do.
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  Speaker 2: In the postseason. Kat was playing like a man who
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: wanted an extension last night.
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  Speaker 5: He was playing like a guy who should get an extension, yes.
• 8:25
  Speaker 5: Because I'm looking at Kat and I'm like, where else
• 8:27
  Speaker 5: is that money going to go? So while I won't
• 8:29
  Speaker 5: get frustrated with the Knicks this season, or angry, I guess,
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  Speaker 5: I do think it's okay to feel disappointed that the
• 8:37
  Speaker 5: Knicks lose game one, where once you separate the... the
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  Speaker 5: banner night from the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: I do think the Knicks needed to be, be humbled
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  Speaker 5: a bit. And like the Knicks have to come into
• 8:48
  Speaker 5: this season, knowing that when you win the championship, there's
• 8:51
  Speaker 5: going to be a target on their back the, the
• 8:53
  Speaker 5: entire season. And I think yesterday, good loss. Now that
• 8:59
  Speaker 5: I'm talking it.
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  Speaker 2: Through, get it out of the way. Right. If there's
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: a time to lose, that would be the time to lose.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
• 9:04
  Speaker 5: If there's ever a time to, to like, You're in
• 9:07
  Speaker 5: the NBA. There's going to be distractions everywhere. Every chance
• 9:10
  Speaker 5: you get, there's going to be distractions. If there's ever
• 9:13
  Speaker 5: a good reason to be distracted, it's for... hoisting a
• 9:16
  Speaker 5: banner up to the rafters of Madison Square Garden.
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: That helicopter ride for LeBron to his apartment in New
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: York City, though, had to be fun, right?
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  Speaker 2: After the game? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The rest of the team goes on a bus back
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  Speaker 3: to Philadelphia. All right, I'll see you guys game two.
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: To the Upper East Side.
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: Ridiculous.
• 9:37
  Speaker 4: Also, Tyrese Maxey.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's good.
• 9:39
  Speaker 5: Tyrese Maxey, he is reaching Nick Killer status.
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 9:44
  Speaker 5: Like, I hate watching Tyrese Maxey just because I know
• 9:47
  Speaker 5: he's going to go for, like, 30 points every night.
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: Can you be a Nick killer if you got just
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: run out the building in the Eastern Conference Finals? It
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: wasn't his fault.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: I do think there's an obligation if you're sitting courtside.
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: you're one of those celebrities, you know, prides themselves on
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: being a Nick fan. And Spike Lee looked patently absurd
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: last night. He had a backpack. It was like a purse.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: It was Nick leather.
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: I think there is an obligation to force tears to
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: come out of your eyes. Even if you don't want
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: to cry, you have to make it look like you're crying.
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: I feel like at home you can get away with it.
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: But if you're sitting courtside, you have to force some
• 10:22
  Speaker 3: tears to come out of those eyes.
• 10:25
  Speaker 6: How many rows back do you have to be before
• 10:27
  Speaker 6: you can not fake the tears?
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: Like third row, fourth row, something like that.
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 10:31
  Speaker 5: So quick correction to both of you guys. We keep
• 10:33
  Speaker 5: saying the Sixers were in the semifinals. The Knicks beat
• 10:37
  Speaker 5: the Cavs in the conference finals. The Sixers very famously
• 10:42
  Speaker 5: don't make it to the conference finals.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: You're right. I'm sorry I said that. Yes. I'm sorry,
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: but this team will.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: Yes. No.
• 10:48
  Speaker 5: You almost got me there.
• 10:52
  Speaker 6: He went fishing, almost landed a big one.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: I was so close.
• 10:54
  Speaker 5: If I could complain about one thing when we're talking
• 10:57
  Speaker 5: about the fans at Madison Square Garden, I'm getting very
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: tired of Ben Stiller holding up his phone and recording everything.
• 11:04
  Speaker 5: Where's this documentary that.
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: We were promised?
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, just enjoy the moments.
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: Just live in the moment.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: The memories, yes.
• 11:11
  Speaker 5: He's like a mom at his kid's soccer game. He's
• 11:13
  Speaker 5: like this the entire time.
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: Not everything needs to be documented. I mean, enough. Seriously.
• 11:18
  Speaker 6: I imagine that it's all the camera's facing the wrong
• 11:22
  Speaker 6: way and it's all just him watching the Knicks going, what?
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, that was a good dunk.
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: Is he doing a doc? Is that what he's doing?
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: He's doing a doc, but like at some point, Like
• 11:35
  Speaker 5: this footage better be incredible because all he does is
• 11:38
  Speaker 5: have his phone out.
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: How's he going to approach it? He was at the
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: Met Gala instead of the Mecca. I mean, somebody probably
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: filled in standing.
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  Speaker 2: Someone better.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, how do you have, how do you have a
• 11:48
  Speaker 6: documentary without the banner raising?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 11:51
  Speaker 6: You gotta, you gotta have, you gotta have that moment,
• 11:53
  Speaker 6: by the way, I'm getting sick of Spike Lee. I mean,
• 11:55
  Speaker 6: I've been sick of Spike Lee. And then we had
• 11:57
  Speaker 6: that whole off season, the whole summer where I didn't
• 12:00
  Speaker 6: have to look at him, you know, inserting himself into
• 12:03
  Speaker 6: Nick's games. and now he's back, and I immediately was
• 12:06
  Speaker 6: just like.
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  Speaker 4: Just sit down.
• 12:09
  Speaker 6: There are other celebrities there, and they're enjoying the game.
• 12:13
  Speaker 6: Whenever you talk, bad things happen for the Knicks. Just
• 12:16
  Speaker 6: sit down.
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: Taylor, how'd you feel about Mike Brown? He was feisty
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: after the game. He was not happy with the team's performance.
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: He said even if they won, he would have felt bad.
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: That's how bad they were playing. I like the expectations.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: I do. I like that.
• 12:31
  Speaker 5: Mike Brown has a process, and I hate using that word,
• 12:35
  Speaker 5: especially after a game against the 76ers. 76ers are taking
• 12:39
  Speaker 5: credit for LeBron James being part of the trust the process.
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: They got lucked into LeBron James. The fact that the
• 12:46
  Speaker 5: Celtics didn't want to part with Hugo Gonzalez. Was that
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: part of the process too with Sam Inkey?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just love where we've arrived as an
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: organization where the head coach of the reigning champion New
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: York Knicks is saying, would not have felt good about
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: a win versus the Sixers given how we played. A
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: win's a win, and he's saying he didn't want one.
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  Speaker 5: We ought a standard to uphold when you take the
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  Speaker 5: court in Madison Square Garden, the world's most famous arena.
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  Speaker 2: A championship standard.
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: We're thinking back-to-back, and luckily— Mike Brown has this attitude
• 13:17
  Speaker 5: because if Mike Brown showed up with your attitude, Nick's
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: would have lost that game by 85.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: Nick's winning the game out of halftime. What attitude of
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: mine are you talking about?
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: Your laissez-faire attitude.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you, Mike Brown, that was the word I
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: was searching for. I was searching for that earlier. I
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: said lackadaisical. Laissez-faire.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: I guarantee you Mike Brown thought to himself or whispered
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: to somebody.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: At some point last night, man, the Sixers are good.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: I guarantee, no, no, I got too far.
• 13:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but when Mike Brown says that he wishes that
• 13:51
  Speaker 5: some of those Jalen Brunson shots ultimately didn't fall because
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: he thinks that they needed this loss, again, kind of
• 13:58
  Speaker 5: points back to Might be a good loss.
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  Speaker 2: He's your coach. I love Mike Brown.
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  Speaker 5: We'll recheck this at the All-Star break, but for right now,
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: I do love Mike Brown.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: Are you reserving the right to fire him at the
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: All-Star break?
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• 16:04
  Speaker 3: So last year during the Knicks championship run, after every.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Single win, we would have Ariel Helwani on.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: The show to discuss the win, not after losses, only
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: after wins. We haven't spoken to him since the Knicks,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: maybe the day after the Knicks won. the NBA championship,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: and he swore to us if they go 0-82, he
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: would be fine with it moving forward. I said the
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: same thing. I am good for life, yet I found
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: myself getting upset as the Knicks lost to the Sixers.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: First game of the year last night, and Ariel's with
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: us right now, and he joins us. He sent me
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: a lovely picture of him and his kids at the
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: game as the Knicks raised the banner last night, Taylor.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: at the Mecca at Madison Square Garden. What a great evening.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: What a great night. That is amazing that you were able,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: thank you for doing this, buddy, that you were able
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: to enjoy that night with your children.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: That is fantastic.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. Thank you for having me again. I'm
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: getting nostalgic talking to you on my way to work
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: because it feels like June all over again. And so
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: this is a lovely way to button it all up
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: as we begin to turn the page. But yeah, I
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: had to be there. I dreamed of that. I felt
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: like I was watching a movie reenactment of what it
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: would feel like if the Knicks won in a movie,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: but we would never actually experience it. And so I
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: kept having to shake my head. I would just say
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: to my kids, I can't believe that's there. I can't
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: believe that's a real thing. The tickets weren't cheap, but
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I needed to be there. I needed to experience it.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I also kept telling them we may never see this again,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: certainly not in my life. And so it was amazing.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: It was emotional. And yeah, obviously, like once the game starts,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I always wondered, I always would ask my friends who are,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: you know, Warriors fans or Eagles fans or whatever, Yankees fans. Okay,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: so like you don't really care as much. the next
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: time around, the next season. And they all have their
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: different theories. And there I was getting a little bit
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: annoyed throughout the game. But by the end, and as
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: we were walking home, I was like, yeah, this doesn't matter.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I am still staying true to that 0-82. I hope
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. But the experience, the visuals, the emotion,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: everything like that was the best word that I could
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: come up with is surreal. And I don't even think
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: that word is good enough because it was just beyond
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: my wildest dreams.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: Ariel, when the Knicks fans are chanting in the garden
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: to LeBron James at the free throw line, we don't
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: want you, are you participating in those chants?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Because I don't feel like LeBron is... LeBron is not
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: my villain, if you will. I know we've had our
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: moments with him, but to be honest, his best years
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: were sort of during our down years. We don't have
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: any classic playoff struggles from the 90s. I do feel
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: like all of this stuff, like, oh, had they not won,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I would have signed here. Him living here is a
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: little bit lame, but I don't feel that. Honestly, when
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: it comes to basketball right now, and I'm sure my
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: feelings will change once Tyrese comes to town or someone
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: like that, I don't have that much hate in my heart.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I'm good. It's all good. I have some sister fans
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: being like, oh, my God, Andre Drummond, what a drop-off
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: for you guys. Like, I just sent them a picture
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: of the ring. Nothing you can say. Even people being like,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse Championship, easiest run.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Don't care.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: We got the ring.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: We got the banner. Sixers fans, 1983 was a long,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: long time ago, so enjoy sweating it out.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Taylor, I texted him after the game just to put
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: some chum in the water to see where he was psychologically.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I said, oh, and one. Oh, well.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Were your kids participating in that cheer, though, about LeBron?
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: No, I think I had to tell them what it meant,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and then they thought it was funny. But, again, like–
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I don't have like, honestly, like I feel more animosity
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: towards Embiid and Jalen Brown than him. I feel like
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: they've been like nemeses of ours, if that's the correct word. But,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: you know, I really in the back of my mind,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: had we spoke yesterday morning, I was sort of anticipating this.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: It's just so much emotion. There's the pregame stuff and
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you're getting cold. Like they came out, they came out
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: to warm up without any introduction before the ceremony. I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: thought the announcer would be like, please welcome your 2025-2026.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: They just came out because I think they wanted to
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: get it in before they had to stand there and
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: do all that stuff. And then there's all the emotion.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: And then there's the intros of the whole team. It
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: was just a lot. It was a long night. So
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I sort of expected a bit of a drop-off. But
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: we're good, man. We're so deep. Galen's not going to
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: play like that all the time. Kat was very frustrating,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: but great in the fourth quarter. Andre was tremendous until
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: he gassed out. I feel very, very good about this team. Obviously,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: the East is stacked, but I love our team, and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I love the fact that we're defending champions. I keep
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: asking the guys that I work with, like, how long
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: am I allowed to celebrate for? They say until a
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: new champion is crowned. I'm going to go with that
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: for now. But, hell, I mean, it's still so unbelievable
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: that all this transpired.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Ariel, I'm like you where I don't have the same
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: animosity towards LeBron James that some Knicks fans have. But
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: for me, if I had to put my animosity anywhere yesterday,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: I'm glad that Reggie Miller was in the building as
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: that banner was going up.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I noted that to my kids as well, and that
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: made me feel good. I didn't get to watch it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: And so, like, was he being nice? Was he being annoying?
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: How was he? I didn't get to watch the broadcast.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, Taylor, I don't know how Taylor felt about it.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I thought he was being nice and respectful of the
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Knicks winning that title and what a crazy run it was.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: He kept talking about how many double-digit leads they came
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: back from during that run and how impressive they were.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm glad to hear that. That means he's
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: a professional. I do feel sometimes... Like, they sort of
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: belabor the whole, you know, rivalry. Like, it was a long,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: long time ago, and we need to kind of move on. And,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you know, we could talk about his actual record against
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the Knicks as a player in the playoffs, all that stuff. But, yeah,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: that was the right move. There was something very poetic
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: about that, 1,000%. I wish just for one night we
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: could have brought back all the villains just to watch
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: us celebrate. But he's sort of king villain. I also
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: wish Patrick was there. It's unfortunate that he wasn't. I
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: know he's now working for the Wizards. But what a
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: nice touch to have Clyde hand out the rings and the—
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Either the family members of the 70-73 teams or the
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: actual stars of those teams being in attendance was just
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: so amazing, man. I really still can't believe that we
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: all witnessed that. And I thought the garden, I thought
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: having Mike Green emcee it was perfect. And those rings
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: are out of this world. They really knocked it out
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: of the park. It was so special.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: So as they're raising this banner, because you and I
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: have been waiting for this as sports fans for our
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: entire lives.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not there.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: I'm in my living room. I found myself getting emotional
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: as they raised the banner.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Were there tears?
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: What kind of emotions were going through you at that time?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: One million percent. One million percent. My eyes, I wasn't bawling,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: but I felt it. I felt it when it comes
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to your eyes and your nose. I felt it. Just,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: you know, all that stuff, the emotion of this past
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: spring slash summer, them finally getting over the hump. And honestly,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: like in a weird way, I have to say, I
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: just felt, and I know this is going to sound
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: dramatic and it sounds crazy when I talk to someone
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: who's not a sports fan. I just felt all the
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: pain wash away. I felt everything wash away. But even
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: now when I see everything, like I don't feel any,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, we know how the story ended. It's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: all good. Charles Smith, Tyrese, the finger roll, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Like I just, I just, I literally felt it all
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: wash away. The story, we know how it ends. It
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: ends right. We got our moment and no one can
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: ever take that away from us. And that was, that
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: was very, very overwhelming. And to be able to like,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: you know, like when you're watching it on TV, you're
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: watching what they, what they are serving up to you.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: But I was trying to look at everything, including my
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: kids because I wanted to remember them at this age
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: with me, Obviously, I couldn't dictate all of this, but, man,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: if you asked me today, like, you know, 44-year-old version
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: of me as a dad as opposed to, you know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: 14-year-old version of me, this is so much better, and
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you can attest to that.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Just to be able to pass this down to them
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and telling them, like, their kids are hopefully going to
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: ask them what was it like watching the 2026 Knicks
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the way I would ask people about the 73 and
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: 70 Knicks. and the way you'd see people's faces light
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: up talking about those guys, it was so special. It
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: was so special. I have to say, between tickets to
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Game 3, tickets to last night, and all the damn
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: merch that I bought, this championship has cost me a
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: pretty damn penny.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: And so I.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Need to chill out a little bit because it's been absurd.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, but the memories will last a lifetime. No comps here.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: But the memories will last a lifetime. That's it, man.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Ariel, I don't want to pocket watch you, but I
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: was going to make a point when you have all
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: these experiences. The Ariel Helwani show must be going great.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: The Knicks announced that they're selling 200 replica championship rings
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: for basically $ 20, 000.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Is that in your shopping cart?
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: That might be the one.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Piece of merch that i'm uh declining i i i
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: will say that only because believe it or not did
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the thought cross my mind for a second maybe but
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day i'm i'm actually not
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: a big jewelry guy uh like i don't i don't
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: have anything i don't have a a watch i don't
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: have a bracelet and i just never like i tried
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: to wear a wedding ring for a week and it
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: was bothering the hell out of me. And so I
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: had to excuse myself. So I don't know like how
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: you wear that thing around town. I mean, I doubt
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: they will. So that one might be one that I'll just,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you know, I'll just look at the pictures. We did
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: get a replica banner, which is going up in my
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: studio today. I'll be doing a small ceremony for that
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: So I'm really looking forward to that.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: You're going to have a banner-raising ceremony in the studio today?
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: That is so good.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Check him out, the Ariel Hawani Show on YouTube, wherever
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: you get your podcasts. As well, I don't want to
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: ask him how much he has spent between the things.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: What do you think, Taylor?
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Like north of $ 10, 000 probably?
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Don't want a pocket watch.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I want one of those rings.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's tacky, but like it's well north.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, just the two tickets alone.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Just the two games that I went to, three seats each.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: was well over that. I mean, I was struggling with
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: what to do with the game yesterday. Like, you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: there's a bit of a game plan when you try
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: to buy tickets on the second market and all that. Like,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you wait till the very end. You get them right away.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: You know, you kind of have to, like, watch it
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: like it's the stock market. And then by Friday of
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: last week, I was getting too anxious. I'm like, all right,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I just have to buy it. And I'll say that
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the tickets that I bought on Friday, I checked yesterday morning.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let me see if I got
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: screwed here. they were triple the price and they were
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: not cheap to begin with. And I was like, Holy smokes.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I would be devastated if this, if I would have went,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: because some of the guys I work with say like,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: wait till the last hour. I'm like, no way I
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: can't do that. That's way too, that's way too stressful
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: for me. So yeah, those tickets were nuts. I hope
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: they go back down to earth now because everyone obviously
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: deserves to be there. And, and it's, yeah, it's a,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: it's a lot, it's a lot, but no regrets whatsoever.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I would have, been devastated had I not been in
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the building yesterday.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Two quick questions. We'll get you out of here.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Is that the most impressed your sons have ever been
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: with you last night?
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: With me?
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, you took them to Banner Night, both of them.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's amazing. I know.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Is it possible that they just kind of expected
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: it at this point?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Well, they're going to expect a ring.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I mean... I was like, guys, anyone else from your
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: grades going? Anyone from school? I'm like, no, I think
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: we're the only ones. They're like, oh, my God, this
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: is crazy. I was like, well, they're not about that life, right?
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: But I really think that they appreciated it, and we
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: took it all in. We were waiting in line at
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: 530 when they opened the doors. I wanted to be
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: in my seat. I didn't want to miss a thing. And, yeah, like,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: you know, it was surreal about it. It was like
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I've never been to a sporting event where the game
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: felt like an afterthought. Like, to me, the main event,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the attraction, was the pregame ceremony. One time I flew in.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I was in college.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: I was at Syracuse.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: And I flew in by myself to watch Ewing's number
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: being retired in 03. And that was at halftime. And
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that felt like the main attraction. But this, to me,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is over. And, like, wow, now
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: we get to watch– LeBron and Jalen Brown and the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Sixers and all that, It all felt like an afterthought.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: It was very unique in that regard. And the last
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: time I was in that building was for game three.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: It felt in a way like the anticipation and buzz
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of a final, but without any of the stress and
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: anxiety because you knew that we were just there to celebrate,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: which is pretty darn unique.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Right. Win or lose, we won.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Was there a single Knick fan yelling anything derogatory at
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: any of the Knick players last night?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: There's no way, right? No one was getting on bridges, correct?
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: No. You know, it's funny. There were a couple of
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: times where it was like, Drummond, finish it. What are
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you doing, you know? By the way, Drummond was great
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: until he wasn't, until he sort of ran out of gas,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: cat with the fouls and all that stuff.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Yes. He was playing like a guy, Ariel, who didn't
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: win a title last year, you know?
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll figure it out. I think he'll be okay.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: He started last year a little rough as well. It
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: honestly felt like the building had a little bit of
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: a letdown as well, just from an emotional standpoint. There
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: was just a lot at the beginning, and that's the
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: way it should be. No regrets. The game is an afterthought. Congratulations.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: to the Sixers on their championship, beating us opening night.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: They're all very happy. They're all very salty. The vast
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: majority of these fans have never seen a Sixers championship. 1983,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: like I said, a long time ago, the longest drought
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: right now in the NBA. And so, you know, I'm
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: hoping for them all the best. Hopefully they get over
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the hump like we did. I don't think they will. But,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you know, I was talking about this last night. I'm
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: setting the line at 25 games this season as to
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: how many times that starting five plays together. Are you
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: taking the over or the under?
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I would go under.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: Ariel, there was one point during the broadcast where Jamal
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Crawford was saying he thinks Joel Embiid's going to play
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: 70 games this season. I was like, in what world
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: is Joel Embiid playing 70 games?
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Get out of here.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: No chance.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: If anything, they're just.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, again, we've seen this before. They're going to
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: save him for the playoffs. They know that. Try to get, like,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: a top-four seed in that. But I just don't see it.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't see them playing Twitter yet.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: And by the way, without Joel, they're still incredible. Like,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: just the three-headed monster of Maxie and Brown and Edgecombe
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: is tremendous in its own right. And using LeBron as
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: a facilitator is brilliant. They're doing all the right things.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: But I just feel like more often than not, it
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't work in the first season.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: We have an entire season here to call ourselves the
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: defending NBA champions.
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  Speaker 2: So let's just keep a smile on our face.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Let's not get too low, even though we will if
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: they get off to a shaky start here. He's going
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: to raise a banner today on his show, the Ariel
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Helwani Show.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Check him out on.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: YouTube, wherever you get your podcasts. He has a banner-raising
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: ceremony during the show. I'm going to watch it. I
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: can't wait.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you. And by the way, one last thing. It
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't quite Pat Riley saying we're going back-to-back. I believe
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: that was maybe in like 87 or 88, something like that.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: My memory is foggy, but I love what Jalen had
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: to say about we want to feel this all over again.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I love that little touch there. So I'm very, very, very, very,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: very excited about this. And without any of the anxiety
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: of the what if, and oh my God, we'll never
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: see it, this is going to be a lot of fun.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, guys. Always great to check in.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you very much.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: We love you, buddy. We want to feel that way
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: as well. But if we don't, we don't. I mean,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: that's the attitude we need to have.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Moving forward here, you know?
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Amen.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Amen.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: All right, man.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Check him out, the Ariel Hawani Show, wherever you get
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: your podcast and on YouTube. We appreciate it always, buddy.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for doing this. I'm glad you
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: had a great time. Memories that will last a lifetime
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: with you and your children. That's fantastic, man.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I'm happy for you.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much.