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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers/Browns - Victory Formula · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt.
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  Speaker 3: Posh, come on, Posh. This is my friend T-Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have some fun. I can't go to work without
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  Speaker 2: listening to Mac and Bone. Do it live.
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  Speaker 4: Y'all being a rookie don't mean nothing because, like, look
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  Speaker 4: at T-Mac last year. People say he was a rookie.
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  Speaker 1: And he went for the college.
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  Speaker 4: So that don't mean nothing. When you're on the field
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  Speaker 4: on Sunday, age means nothing. Like I said before, they
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  Speaker 4: take shots with them.
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  Speaker 1: They move them around.
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  Speaker 4: You have, like, a tall one that's 6'4. He broke
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  Speaker 4: a tackle and went for 55. And you have a short,
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  Speaker 4: shifty one that get in and out his break. So
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  Speaker 4: we got to come ready to play.
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  Speaker 5: Mike Jackson, one of the two stud corners on your
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  Speaker 5: Carolina Panthers, talking about the two rookie receivers on this
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  Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns team. We're getting ready to talk about the Browns,
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  Speaker 5: what they've been doing, and most importantly, it is time
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  Speaker 5: for our victory formula of the week. What can go wrong,
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  Speaker 5: Bone Man? Victory formula is one and one so far.
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  Speaker 5: Panthers one and one. And we'll talk about how they
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  Speaker 5: beat the darn Browns later this hour. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 5: the injury situation. I got told bone by multiple Panther
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  Speaker 5: fans on Twitter yesterday. to calm down about injuries on
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  Speaker 5: a Wednesday. Well, we will discuss at 845 if we
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  Speaker 5: are calm about all our injuries. Obviously, the Brooks one,
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  Speaker 5: we hated for him. And we can talk about that.
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  Speaker 5: Is that devastating to not have him for six to
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  Speaker 5: eight weeks? But also the guys that are surprises, like
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  Speaker 5: Devin Lloyd and Jalen Phillips on the injury report this week.
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  Speaker 5: How concerned are we? Or do we calm down? Because
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  Speaker 5: they're only Wednesday injuries, Bo. we will discuss that later.
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  Speaker 6: On i'm trying not to injury panic maybe until friday
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  Speaker 6: friday afternoon when it starts to get real uh but
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  Speaker 6: wednesday wednesday i'm cool calm baby let's see i'm not
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  Speaker 6: even concerned about stuff right now see if you pass
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  Speaker 6: the cool is a cucumber test at 8 45 okay
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  Speaker 6: i'll give you.
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  Speaker 5: That test there oh that sounds like an odd test
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  Speaker 5: but i'm here for it all right anyway um uh
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  Speaker 5: Let's talk about these Browns. Yeah, they've got Casey Concepcion,
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  Speaker 5: who is their leader in catches. Not getting a lot
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  Speaker 5: of yards out of them, but has 10 catches to
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  Speaker 5: lead them. And then they have Denzel Boston, another rookie
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  Speaker 5: wide receiver. He's the big dude that Jack was talking about.
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  Speaker 3: He leads them in yards.
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  Speaker 5: He's the one guy that is getting, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: think 16 plus yards a catch. He's making big plays. Um,
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  Speaker 5: but we want to hear from you guys. How do
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  Speaker 5: we beat the Browns? This dude says victory formula for
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  Speaker 5: the Browns show up at the stadium.
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  Speaker 3: There is no way bone. I am coming on here
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  Speaker 3: with that kind of arrogance. It's a funny line.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't doing that.
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  Speaker 3: I ain't doing that.
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  Speaker 6: This is the national football league. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 6: just because the pandas played well last week. There's still
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  Speaker 6: got to be a trust built up here. I'm not taking–
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  Speaker 6: I am not going to sit here and overwork the Browns.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to act like that this week.
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  Speaker 6: They won a road game last week in the NFL
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  Speaker 6: for crying out loud, so I'm not going to sit here.
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  Speaker 3: And take them serious.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to act like that this week. I
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  Speaker 5: feel pretty good about it, but I'm not going to
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  Speaker 5: do that. Now, Fiddy will probably go like eight scores
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  Speaker 5: galore or something.
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  Speaker 3: Tomorrow on the show. As long as he's not showing
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  Speaker 3: his goalless.
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  Speaker 5: It is a big game bone in that– You want
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  Speaker 5: to develop some consistency. Last year's team had that one
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  Speaker 5: little stretch of, I think, three in a row. But
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  Speaker 5: other than that, they could not get any consistency. Derrick
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  Speaker 5: Brown talked about it every week. They went to the
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  Speaker 5: team leader, Derrick Brown, every week.
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  Speaker 3: Why you guys win one, lose one?
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  Speaker 5: So I think even though you look at it as, well,
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  Speaker 5: they beat the Falcons and now they're playing the Browns,
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  Speaker 5: win these games that you're the better team, right? Because
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  Speaker 5: that doesn't always happen in the league. And start to
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  Speaker 5: develop some actual freaking consistency. I think that would be big.
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  Speaker 5: So I ask you to start us off, Bo. What
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  Speaker 5: would be your first thing? What do we need to do, like, strategically?
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  Speaker 5: Or just what do we need to do well to
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  Speaker 5: make sure we win this game?
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  Speaker 6: This could be a game where they can really get
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  Speaker 6: the run game going through two games.
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  Speaker 3: Cleveland.
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  Speaker 6: is 26 against the run, giving up 131.5 rush yards
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  Speaker 6: per game. They also don't run the ball on offense well.
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  Speaker 6: They're 31st in the league at 65.5 yards per game.
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  Speaker 6: So on both sides here, the Panthers' run defense, I
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  Speaker 6: would think, can have a pretty good day against Cleveland,
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  Speaker 6: and I think they can really get Chuba in this
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  Speaker 6: run game, hopefully no penalties. But I think the run
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  Speaker 6: game can really do some damage against Cleveland. I think
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  Speaker 6: the run game on both sides advantage.
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  Speaker 5: That Cleveland run game is like 2.8 yards a carry,
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  Speaker 5: 31st in yards per carry, 31st in yards on the
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  Speaker 5: ground per game. Yeah, go get that run defense. I
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  Speaker 5: thought they were good early against B. John, and then
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  Speaker 5: I think he started to get some. But it didn't
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  Speaker 5: matter at that point. We kept forcing turnovers. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'd love to see them. To your point about the
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  Speaker 5: run game, you stuff that run and get Deshaun in
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  Speaker 5: the third nine. Get Deshaun into third and eight. Make
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  Speaker 5: that guy beat you. Make that guy make plays downfield.
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  Speaker 5: Last week, he had a pretty good week, but I
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  Speaker 5: looked at his average distance of target. It was like 3.8.
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  Speaker 5: It was a lot of short stuff in yards after
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  Speaker 5: the catch. That's another thing, too. If he goes short,
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  Speaker 5: you've got to freaking tackle. Tackle Concepcion. Tackle these guys.
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  Speaker 5: The first thing I said, Bone, earlier in the show
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  Speaker 5: was I was going to mention– Start fast on defense.
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  Speaker 3: Get a turnover early. Get a three and out early.
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  Speaker 5: I want that crowd turning against Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson
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  Speaker 5: played good last week. He might get some grace from
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  Speaker 5: the crowd in the home opener. But then yesterday, there
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  Speaker 5: he was begging them not to boo him. You know, Bone,
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  Speaker 5: if he starts bad, they're going to jump on him
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  Speaker 5: again there. And I just think it would be big
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  Speaker 5: for the second straight week to have that home crowd
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  Speaker 5: turning on your signal caller. And I think you could
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  Speaker 5: do that with a fast start on defense. It's not
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  Speaker 5: like he hasn't played at home yet either. That's the
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  Speaker 5: first one.
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  Speaker 6: So they've, you know, they might, as the game begins,
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  Speaker 6: be all right because they won last week. But it's
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  Speaker 6: not going to take much to your point of that
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  Speaker 6: crowd to say, oh, yeah, we forgot.
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  Speaker 3: We hate this guy.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's the dude that told them, I don't
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  Speaker 5: like the booing. It's personal in the preseason. He hasn't
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  Speaker 5: played at home since then. So it's like, yeah, get
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  Speaker 5: them feeling like, oh, yeah, forget last week. I'm booing
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  Speaker 5: your ass. I'm ready for that. Make that crowd beg
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  Speaker 5: for Shador Sanders. They might anyway, but yeah. The leading
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  Speaker 5: rusher right now, by the way, for the Browns back
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  Speaker 5: is Deshaun Watson. He's at 60 yards total rushing yards
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  Speaker 5: this year. He got more than Judkins. Judkins is not
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  Speaker 5: getting much at all. A lot of it's the O-line, though.
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  Speaker 5: I was reading something yesterday on one of the Browns blogs.
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  Speaker 5: They are struggling in the run blocking grade. A lot
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  Speaker 5: of people are blaming the O-line. So to your point, though,
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  Speaker 5: defensive front. Looks like we're going to get Bobby Brown
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  Speaker 5: and Pat Jones back, knock on wood. Go kick their
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  Speaker 5: fannies in the trenches, y'all.
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  Speaker 6: If they can bottle up that defense from last week
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  Speaker 6: to some degree, I don't mean Devin Lloyd's going to
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  Speaker 6: go and have that type of game, but Deshaun Watson, Mac,
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  Speaker 6: has been sacked seven times this year. I think this
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  Speaker 6: is a game where the Panthers' pass rush could really
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  Speaker 6: get home against this team.
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  Speaker 5: The craziest thing, Bone, is their second and pass block
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  Speaker 5: win rate.
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  Speaker 3: But they've given up seven sacks in two games. It's Watson.
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  Speaker 5: He's taking the sacks like I was looking at PFF.
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  Speaker 5: They only attributed one of the seven sacks to an
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  Speaker 5: offensive lineman. That's wild. Four of them are on Watson,
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  Speaker 5: so he's holding it too long and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 5: So go get that.
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  Speaker 6: Dude down, man. Again, it's a small sample for stats.
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  Speaker 6: Texter's asking about the Browns' pass defense. Right now, opponents'
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  Speaker 6: yards per game, their pass defense is right in the middle.
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  Speaker 6: They've given up 205 yards per game. per game the
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  Speaker 6: first two, 16th in the league right now in passing yards.
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  Speaker 5: Totally mid, 16th in yards per attempt. But your point
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  Speaker 5: about the run defense, we got a guy on the
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  Speaker 5: text line saying run the ball. Of course, we always
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  Speaker 5: say run the ball during this segment. But to your point,
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  Speaker 5: they're 26th in rush defense in terms of yards per game. Chuba,
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  Speaker 5: can we actually not have– that would be on my formula.
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  Speaker 5: Actually block without holding. Offensive line, how about trying to
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  Speaker 5: stay relatively penalty free? And then Chuba will eat. I
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  Speaker 5: do firmly believe that. This texter says, you better throw it, guys.
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  Speaker 5: Not name Denzel Ward, because whoever Denzel covers ain't doing crap.
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  Speaker 5: Denzel Ward's damn good. One of the best in the league.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think about that? How does that adjust
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  Speaker 5: your passing? Well, that's why having a 1A and a
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  Speaker 5: 1B comes in handy. You're not predicated on one guy
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  Speaker 5: having to go off. Bryce Young has two guys that
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  Speaker 5: can do damage, so I don't worry too much about that.
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  Speaker 5: You go take one guy away, the other guy's going
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  Speaker 5: to eat. Yeah, that's the thing, is can you get
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  Speaker 5: after those other corners, whoever is, you know, put them
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  Speaker 5: in the slot too, if that gets you away from
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  Speaker 5: Denzel Ward, you know, stuff like that. But yeah, one guy,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think one corner bone is going to shut
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  Speaker 5: down this entire passing game. I will say this, another
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  Speaker 5: key is Bryce Young has to be better versus man coverage.
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  Speaker 5: I mentioned this last hour. I think it bears repeating.
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  Speaker 5: It's kind of interesting. Bryce has been feasting on primarily
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  Speaker 5: zone coverage. He's been killing it. 75%, 12.7 yards in attempt, 82%
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  Speaker 5: of the coverages he's faced his zone.
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  Speaker 3: They've been killing it. You saw it against Atlanta.
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  Speaker 5: TMAC, Coker, finding those spots on the sidelines in the
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  Speaker 5: zone between the DBs. Now you play the number one
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  Speaker 5: man team so far in the NFL. in Cleveland and
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  Speaker 5: Bryce has only averaging 40% completions and four yards at
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  Speaker 5: attempt against man.
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  Speaker 3: They got to figure out man defense this week. It's good.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be an interesting twist to this game.
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  Speaker 6: You know can i make a uh bold prediction or
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  Speaker 6: proclamation about this game chuba sets his career high for
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  Speaker 6: off yards in a game this week wow so you
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  Speaker 6: think they go run heavy in this game i think
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  Speaker 6: chuba's previous high is the game in germany when he
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  Speaker 6: ran for 153 against the Giants. I think Chuba can
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  Speaker 6: go for 160-ish this week.
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  Speaker 5: Does Air Idzik want to run it that much, though?
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  Speaker 5: I definitely think he can be really efficient, to your point.
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  Speaker 5: I just wonder, do you think Air Idzik is going
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  Speaker 5: to commit to it? Sometimes it seems like he is.
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  Speaker 3: Bored running it.
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  Speaker 6: It's fair, but the previous sector brought up Denzel Ward. Well,
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  Speaker 6: if Denzel Ward is going to take away your receiving option,
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  Speaker 6: maybe they have to rely a little more on the
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  Speaker 6: run game this week.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, good coaches will look at matchups, will change things up.
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  Speaker 5: What do they think we're going to do, right? We've
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  Speaker 5: been so pass-heavy, passing 61% of the time.
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  Speaker 3: What do y'all think we need to do?
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  Speaker 5: What is your element to the victory formula in Cleveland, 704-570-9610?
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  Speaker 5: Texter says, y'all, hadn't heard you mention this yet. Are
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: we viewing this like the Falcons' North... Are we viewing
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  Speaker 5: this team as as bad as the Falcons? You addressed
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  Speaker 5: this earlier.
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  Speaker 6: I think they have a little more overall talent. They
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  Speaker 6: don't have Bijon, but their quarterback play is also not great.
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  Speaker 6: But I think there's a little more fight in the
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  Speaker 6: Browns than the Falcons right now. And their defense is
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  Speaker 6: definitely better. You know they're going to want to put
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  Speaker 6: on a performance at home for their fans. So I
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  Speaker 6: think this is a win for the Panthers. I don't
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  Speaker 6: think it comes as easy as last week. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 6: think so either. Now, listen, last week I thought it
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  Speaker 6: was going to be an eight-point game. My prediction was
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  Speaker 6: an eight-point game.
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  Speaker 5: The only future seer on the show was one, Fitty,
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  Speaker 5: birthday boy Marlon.
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  Speaker 3: Well, how do I buy 14? I'm a man.
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  Speaker 5: I'm 30. Said it was three scores galore. So, yes,
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  Speaker 5: you were closer to me.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 5: But this man called his three scores galore shot. What
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  Speaker 5: do they got to do.
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  Speaker 3: This week, Fitty?
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  Speaker 2: I called my shot earlier in the week.
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  Speaker 1: Shutout.
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  Speaker 2: Three points last week.
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  Speaker 7: We're going to give up even fewer points this week,
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  Speaker 7: which is either two points or no points.
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  Speaker 3: We give up one safety.
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  Speaker 5: Texter704 number says, Watson is just as bad as Cooper Rush.
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  Speaker 5: He played good last week. But he's got two rookie receivers.
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  Speaker 5: Jerry Judy only has two catches. It's the rookies that
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  Speaker 5: are doing it. Mike Jack and Horn can shut down
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  Speaker 5: a couple of rooks, can't they? I think the Browns'
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  Speaker 5: defense is going to fight a little more than the Falcons' defense.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's the difference. This is the best defense
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  Speaker 5: we've faced, right? Isn't that safe to say? The Browns,
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  Speaker 5: even without Garrett?
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Although, Vers hadn't done anything yet. Vers has won
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  Speaker 3: pressure through two games, surprisingly.
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  Speaker 7: I know the offense is operating at a higher level
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  Speaker 7: right now. Could this be last year's Jets game? Where
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  Speaker 7: we're clearly the better team.
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  Speaker 3: But it's ugly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's a road game. It's their home opener.
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  Speaker 7: They've got a little bit of belief after what they
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  Speaker 7: did last week in Tampa. They're going to fight because
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  Speaker 7: I don't think Todd Monk is going to let his
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  Speaker 7: team lay down. But this could be like a 17-6
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  Speaker 7: game in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's possible, although I'd like to think Bone
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  Speaker 5: and Fitty, this offense is past last year, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not going to score 30 every week.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if they are.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm here for it. How dare you say they're not
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  Speaker 3: going to score 30 every week? How dare you? I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to hear that. What is wrong with you? Oh, man. 704-570-9610.
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  Speaker 5: This dude says, you can't take a defense lightly that
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  Speaker 5: has Mason Graham, Jared Verse, and Schlesinger. Yeah, Schlesinger's a
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  Speaker 5: freaking baller. Mason Graham's a guy that we... Many of
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  Speaker 5: us have big time interested in his draft. He's got
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  Speaker 5: two sacks. He's their sack leader. Schlesinger's a baller. All
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: you need to know about Schlesinger, first of all, he
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: won defensive rookie of the year on the, well, that's not,
• 13:48
  Speaker 5: that is the defense side of the ball. I guess
• 13:49
  Speaker 5: I didn't need to repeat that. He won defensive rookie
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  Speaker 5: of the year last year. Bone, he is being compared
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  Speaker 5: to Luke Keekly after one season of NFL football. And
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  Speaker 5: I don't think it's just because he's a white linebacker.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 5: That might be part of it, though. It might be.
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  Speaker 5: He's a player, though, man.
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  Speaker 6: I forgot this came up already this week. I was
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  Speaker 6: looking up, hey, when's the last time the Panthers shut
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  Speaker 6: out a team? I had forgotten.
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  Speaker 3: The Falcons, baby. It was a year ago.
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  Speaker 5: It's always coming up Falcons. Oh man. 704 number. I'm
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: a diehard Browns fan. I'm a transplant. I like the Panthers,
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: but the Browns are my first love. Y'all are completely
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  Speaker 5: overselling us.
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  Speaker 3: This is a.
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  Speaker 5: Fan bone that is mad that we are giving his
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  Speaker 5: team some respect.
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  Speaker 3: This guy doesn't want us to respect him.
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  Speaker 6: We're a show that tries to respect the opponent, except
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: for Atlanta.
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  Speaker 3: And sometimes Tampa and not usually the New Orleans. I
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Y'all, like, to Bone's point, Atlanta is not capable, are they,
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  Speaker 5: of going to Tampa and winning? Although Tampa looks like
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: they have issues. But Cleveland went down there and won
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  Speaker 5: that football game.
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  Speaker 3: Like, that's got to be acknowledged. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: They are not the damn Falcons who couldn't beat a
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  Speaker 3: peewee team at this point.
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: All right, we come back on the Mac and Bone Show.
• 15:02
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• 15:12
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  Speaker 7: Bye.
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  Speaker 5: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mack and Bone with you. Cruising
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: through a Thursday. We're going to talk college football. Six
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: AP ranked versus ranked matchups coming up this weekend. That
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: includes some big ones in the SEC. We've obviously got
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: some local situations here in the Carolinas that feel like
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: crisis situations. We've got to talk some college football, and
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: who better to do it with than Trevor Maddich. He's
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: killing it on the college football final. I record it overnight, Boney.
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  Speaker 5: I watch it to start my Sunday morning, every Sunday morning,
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  Speaker 5: and Trevor Maddich has been a part of that college
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: football final crew this season, doing a great job. ESPN's
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: Trevor Maddich joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show. Hey, Trevor,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: what's going on, man?
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  Speaker 3: How you doing?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing great, Matt. How are you guys?
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: What's going on, Trevor? We're doing good, man. Except NC
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: State fans, Trevor. They're still trying to figure out what
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: the heck happened at the end of that game.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what did happen? I mean, did they play last week?
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 5: Have you ever seen a game end in any, like,
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: is there anything similar? You've watched a lot of football.
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  Speaker 5: What do you compare that to? Because that was crazy.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the only one that I can think of is
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: the Michigan-Michigan State ending with the block punt touchdown, I
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: don't know, 10, 15 years ago, something like that. That
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: was crazy. But this one, I mean, block punts happen.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: This doesn't happen, right? And, I mean, of course, C.J.
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  Speaker 3: Bailey.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: He has had such a good career. He's such a
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: good player, such a good guy, and this– I hope
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  Speaker 1: this isn't the last memory that people have of him.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I hope NC State really roars to a tremendous season
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: from here. But, you know, people break it down all
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: the time. The truth of it is I still want
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: to know more detail about what he was told. I
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: know what Coach Doran said kind of briefly, that he
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: was told to burn some time, take the safety, don't
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: fumble it. Well, take the safety was the problem. You know,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: and then CJ said he's a competitor and he just
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: wanted to compete. And it's like, well, does that mean he, what.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Does that mean exactly?
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Right. Because even though he stayed up and took the hit,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: protecting the football was the prime directive. And, and the
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: irony is if he would have just taken an immediate
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: knee and left four seconds on the clock, then only
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: one miracle play by Vanderbilt would have won them the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: game anyway, and that probably wouldn't have happened. And so
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: there's just so many what-ifs here. My thought goes to
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the kid because he is way too good of a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: player and has contributed way too much to NC State
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  Speaker 1: and the ACC to have this be the memory.
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  Speaker 6: How much of a challenge is it going to be, Trevor,
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: for Dave Doran to get his team to come back
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  Speaker 6: and respond after that? Do you think that they can
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  Speaker 6: galvanize themselves and use it as, hey, that was a
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: low moment and go from there? Is that a type
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: of loss where they can never recover from? How do
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: you think it goes for the Pack from here on out?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I think it depends on what happens because Appalachian State now,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: App State's 3-0 right now. They're a real opponent. They're
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: not a cupcake. And we'll find out how they practice
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: this week is what is going to be the key.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: And the problem, it's the same problem for LSU, by
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the way, in Texas A & M after deflating losses,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: different style of deflating loss. But can you be focused
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: and energetic and have urgency in practice when you emotionally
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: are so far down? And it's easier as a player
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: to get blown out. just speaking specifically of NC State now,
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  Speaker 1: because if you just get blown out, hey, it's the
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: other team's day, you don't like it, but you just
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: put it behind you. But to have a game won
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  Speaker 1: and then to lose in this fashion, and then to
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: have media and social media all over it like they
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: have been, I mean, that's an incredible emotional deflation. Now,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: if they've lost App State, that is where I think
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  Speaker 1: the season's in danger.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a snowball.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: If they beat App State, they're good enough to be
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: able to come out of it. But ultimately, you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: this is going to tell us everything about how resilient
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: this team is. It kind of reminds me a few
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: years ago, remember when Miami– had the game won, I think,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: against Georgia Tech, and they decided to run the ball
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  Speaker 1: to give the running back an extra little stat and
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: ended up losing the game on a fumble because of that.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: And everybody just was down on Mario Cristobal. Well, he
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: took a real national championship game last year, so Dave
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Doerr is a very good coach. The question is, can
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: this week be a recovery week for them, or will
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: it end up spiraling them?
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question. This is a huge game
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: for them, no doubt about it. We're talking with Trevor
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: Mattis from ESPN, talking some college football. Okay, so let's
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: stick with the can they bounce back theme because South
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: Carolina last week gets off to a 16-0 lead. against
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Mississippi State at home. The crowd's going crazy. And they
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: then get outscored over the next 48 points. They score
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: only seven of them. I mean, Mississippi State turned the
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: game around. So Trevor, now they go to Alabama. Like,
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: do you see them putting up a fight, having a
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: chance to pull off an upset? Or do you worry
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: about their mental state going into this game?
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  Speaker 1: Well, right now the coach is under fire, isn't he?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: And he's kind of being snippy with the media, which
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: also creates its own little snowball, to use your word,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: of drama. But the problem with Alabama is that they
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: can do everything Mississippi State can do except better. You know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the quarterback, Keelan Russell, is a mobile guy like Mississippi
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: State's Camario Taylor, who's been a revelation, hasn't he, by
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the way? Yeah. But Russell at Alabama has been growing,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: not just as a runner, but as a passer. The
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: offensive line is coming together. The defense is ferocious.
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  Speaker 7: And.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, the South Carolina team is in
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: danger of getting smashed in the mouth here. Losing at
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Alabama is by no means a season crusher for a
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: team in the position of South Carolina. But losing at
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: home to Mississippi State and then getting crushed by Alabama,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing. And so it comes back to, okay,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: so these are college students. They all make more than
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: we do, a lot more than we do. So technically
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: they're pros, I guess. But they're still college-age kids. And
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: how will they respond mentally? Lou Holtz always used to
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: say that you have a different team every week because
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you don't know which star you're relying on. His girlfriend
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: made him mad that week, and he's thinking about her
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: all week to practice. So, you know, this is going
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: to be another game where the resilience emotionally of a
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: team is going to dictate whether they have a chance
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: or whether they just get smashed.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: Trevor, two years ago, Lenora Sellers at Clemson had a
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: game for the ages where he dominated and was carrying
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: and trucking Clemson defenders. And we thought, oh, my God,
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: Sellers is a Heisman guy in the future. Then they
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: go to the bowl game against Illinois, and he doesn't
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: play that well. And it sort of goes into last
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: year where you kept waiting for Sellers to have that
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: jumping off point again, and he's not had it. How
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: surprised are you that Sellers has never really become that
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: star quarterback that we thought he was going to be
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: a few years ago?
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a few years ago, he had a real problem
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: with offensive line. And he ran around like crazy. And
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: that's where we saw his highlights. You know, running the
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: ball on the scramble and then throwing on the scramble.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And we thought, hey, give him an offensive line. He'll
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: be great, right? Well, by now, the offensive line has
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: been addressed. It's not a good offensive line. Yeah, they're
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: not as utterly unfortunate as they have been in the past. And,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: you know, and he's not he's not seeming to take
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the next step. He still seems to force things. And
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: that's the problem. He still has a lot of really
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: great highlights. But then he threw a couple of picks,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: costly picks against Mississippi State. And it's the consistency that matters. Now,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you can point that same finger at Arch Madden. This
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: is not to say that Lenora Sellers is a bad player,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: but consistency has been his bugaboo, just like it has
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: been for Arch. And, you know, if he's inconsistent against
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Alabama and turns it over against them, things will get
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: out of hand very, very quickly. But you would think
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that after all the time he spent behind a leaky
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: offensive line, that he would know how to play the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: position in that situation better than he's been showing so
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: far this year.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Trevor, I want to ask you about this SEC slate
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: of games. It really is phenomenal. You start with Texas, Tennessee.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: We talked about Alabama, South Carolina, Oklahoma, Georgia. You've got
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Ole Miss, Florida. That might be the best. You've got LSU,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Texas A & M. Both teams need that game. Which
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: one of all this SEC slate do you feel like
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: by Saturday night we'll be saying– That was the best
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: one of them all. What game do you think is
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: going to be the best of the group?
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I like Ole Miss and Florida. And, you know, Florida's
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: coach said something to the effect of when he found
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: out that they were favored by about a field goal, well,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: there's some good drugs out there. I thought that was
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: pretty hilarious. You know, I don't want to quote it
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: exactly there. I'm not, but it was just really funny.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: The thing is, this is another one of those emotional
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: resilience weeks because of all the emotion and physical pull that,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss put in the beating LSU and the lead-up
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: to LSU. But if there's any team in the nation
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: that's accustomed to this, it's Ole Miss, right? I mean,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: they've got their quarterback back, the leader of their team
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: is back. And from last year, when Lane Kiffin left
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: at the end of November for LSU, they went on
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to win a couple of playoff games, and they ended
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: up 18 seconds away against Miami from going to the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: national championship game. Miami scored the game-winning touchdown, from behind
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: just in the last few seconds of the game. And
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: so that emotional rollercoaster, Ole Miss handled brilliantly, right? And then,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: so now the question is, how do they handle this
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: week of practice? Going to Florida, I can see why
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: the Florida team has the– They had you in Las Vegas, right?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: They're favored. That's an incredibly physical game that Ole Miss
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: played against LSU. I mean, I can't remember a more
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: brutally physical game, especially in the first half ever. And
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: so that'll take a toll. Juwan Lacy there running back
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: is banged up for Ole Miss. And their defense, for
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: as well as a play, especially in stifling the LSU
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: comeback in the second half, They still rank near the
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: bottom of the SEC in running defense and near the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: bottom of college football in running defense. And Florida, you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: we thought they were a really good running team with
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Jaden Baugh, you know, carrying the ball after they smoked, what,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: FAU and Campbell, something like that. But then they went
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: to Auburn and did the same thing. So that basically
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: legitimized what we thought about them. Great running attack against
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: a suspect Ole Miss rush defense that is now fully
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: beat up. So that game, to me, with the best
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: quarterback in the nation, Trinidad Chambliss, is going to be
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a really interesting matchup.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: I think you picked the best one. I can't wait
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: to watch that game and see how does Ole Miss
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: bounce back emotionally. Do they still have it? And that
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Gator offense is fun, man. That's going to be a
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: good one. It's also fun to watch Trevor Maddich in
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: the ESPN studios on College Football Saturdays, including a great
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: way to do your late night on Saturday or your
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: Sunday morning. Record it like I do. Watch the college
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: football final, guys, on Sunday morning. You can do it
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: that way. Trevor, we always appreciate you, man. Thanks so much.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate you guys having me on. Thanks, Trevor.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: All right, be good. There you go. That is Trevor Maddich.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, that Florida Ole Miss game, Bo, might be
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: like the national game of the weekend. I know there's
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: eight ranked ones, so you all might say, oh, no,
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: what about this game? But it's just I really think
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: there's a– I see why Vegas did that with Florida.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: It just feels like a spot that will be hard
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: for Ole Miss to be at their best.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: One of the heaviest bet teams, though, this week, I
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: saw one of the gambling guys put out yesterday who's
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: being bet on the most to cover or win. Ole
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: Miss is getting a ton of money on their side
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: for this, but I don't know about that.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: So they're thinking that Vegas went too far in making
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: Florida the favorite?
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Interesting, man.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: Let's see how good the Gators really are. And he's
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: right about that Ole Miss run defense. Charlotte broke a
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: couple of runs on that Ole Miss run defense.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: And obviously, Louisville and LSU ran a lot.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: I think Tennessee-Texas is fascinating, too, because that's a... That's
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: a game where we don't really know what to feel
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: about Tennessee yet. Is that a win where we go, oh, God,
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: Tennessee's also a playoff team potentially, or does Texas put
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: it on them and Tennessee's sort of middle of the pack?
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know yet about them.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: This is the first real test for Tennessee to figure
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: out who they are this year.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, did you see the guy, I don't know who
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: he roots for, calling out Georgia, saying Georgia finally plays
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: a real team this weekend, Oklahoma going to give it
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: to them. You mean to tell me this Oklahoma team,
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: that could barely score on new Mexico where John Mateer
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: threw two picks against new Mexico bone and needed help
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: from the crowd noise to find a receiver downfield. They're
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: gonna go into athens and be like.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: They could get shut out by this by georgia.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: I think they're gonna get mollywomped like i did where's
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: is this kind of oklahoma fan or so why would
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: you who in the world thinks oklahoma is still good
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: man i feel like everybody has sold oklahoma.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know man.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: All right 84 of the money lines on old miss
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: 85 of the spreads on old miss right now jeez
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: yeah I'm telling you, man, it's three and a half
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: now for the Gators. So, I don't know, man. I
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: think there's a very good chance Florida wins the game.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: That's a tough game for Ole Miss to come back
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: emotionally from.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: It is. Big time. Big time. All right, let's go
• 30:12
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  Speaker 3: I heard that one.
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  Speaker 5: they're in the Super Bowl. I'm like, Jameis is going
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  Speaker 5: to go to the Super Bowl. Captain Crab Leg is
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  Speaker 5: Only way Jameis is going to the Super Bowl if
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  Speaker 5: he's working for ESPN and doing segments with the fans.
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  Speaker 7: Did you see the Jameis Winston comment about Crab Legs
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: that he told the team?
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Was that real? Or is that AI?
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: If I just got to cross over, I'm going to
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: be really upset.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: He's doing commercials for, was it Uber Eats and Crab Legs?
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: I forget which one it was, but he's doing Crab
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  Speaker 6: Leg commercials.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like that would have gone mega viral on
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  Speaker 3: We have to look that up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was using a Crab Leg analogy to describe
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: what the Giants need to do to come together. And
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: we need to figure out if that was real. I
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: want it to be real so badly.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 2: Shroppy said, dude, that was AI is bleep.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: That's what I thought.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's AI.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: That's what I thought. Damn, is the Unk starting to
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: figure out this AI game? Yeah, Wooderoy says, Fitty, on
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: the tweet at the bottom, made with AI. I didn't
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: look that far.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: It didn't take much to figure it out. Made with AI.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Finney didn't get a new brain for his birthday, did he?
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: Finney said, who's Al?
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: Al?
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Who made with Al? Oh, that's AI. Okay.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: When we come back, we have one key guy added
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: to IR and a bunch of others on the injury list.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: How much are we sweating the Panthers health news this morning?
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: We'll give you the news and we react. Sports Radio
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: 92.7 WFNZ.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a pretty significant groin injury. And, you know,
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: we got multiple opinions about what's the best course of action.
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: And Jonathan's going to have surgery to repair the injury.
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: And the timeline of return with surgical or non-surgical was
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: going to be similar. And so they were able to
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: get in there and get a bunch of imaging just
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: in that whole area to kind of see what it's like.
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: And everybody just put their heads together and agreed this
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: would be the best course of action so we can
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: get him back and get him rolling again.
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: That is Dave Kanellis yesterday talking about the unfortunate news,
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: and it broke during our show yesterday. We talked a
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: bunch about it, but it goes in line with this
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: whole conversation of how worried are you about any of
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: these injuries? There were a fair amount of dudes on
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: the injury report yesterday, and then you have this news
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: of Jonathan Brooks that he's got to go on IR,
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: and Kanellis said, hey, well, no more after the surgery.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: But it's looking at six to eight weeks. So I
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: start with this one bone and then we'll deal with
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: the ones that like Canales said, all the other ones
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: on the injury list are kind of day to day.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: So it's this is obviously by far the most severe
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: situation of this week. You had 24 hours to think
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: about it. How worried are you at the impact of
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: the Jonathan Brooks injury?
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  Speaker 3: I think A.J.
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: Dillon can handle a lot of the role that Brooks
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: was currently playing.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: I feel for Brooks. I hate it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: I hate that they traded up for him. and he's
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: not been able to perform really at all for any
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: sustained period of time. But I think that Chuba looks good.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: They've got to clean up the offensive line and the penalties.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: But I think that Chuba and Dylan can handle that
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: just fine. I hate it for Brooks himself, but it
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: doesn't drastically change, Mac, how I feel about the offense
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: right now. If Bryce wasn't dealing like he is and
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: it was a more heavy run game situation, situation right now,
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: I'd say, ooh, this isn't good. But if Bryce is
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: going to continue to evolve as a passer, the two
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: wideouts are on fire, then I think that Dillon and, well,
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: Chuba and Dillon, I think will be just fine in
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: the immediate.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: I do feel like that. I will say this, though. Chuba,
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: stay healthy, please. Because Chuba looks like 2020. Don't let
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: the total yards fool you. He has been efficient around
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: four and a half yards a carry, and I'd be
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: damned if it wasn't like 60 yards that he lost
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: rushing last week. because of the penalties that that that
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: has to be said i noticed bone he is a
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: big fantasy pickup this week i noticed on a couple
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: of the fantasy shows they're talking about that i think
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: that's a smart move you said earlier you think he
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: goes off against the browns run defense which has been
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: bad by the way bryce has been like the most
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: popular waiver wire pickup of the week as well Old
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: Mac Jr.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Was talking to me about it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: He's the type of kid, Bone, that is now in
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: six fantasy leagues at the same time. How's he doing
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: on that listener's league?
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: It's absurd. He did the league for the guy. Team
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: for the guy.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: Our guy still consults him on roster, on lineup decisions.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: The problem is, I think, and if he's out there,
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: he could text us, the guy that Aiden, my son,
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: drafted for and made $ 200 to do so. I think
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: he's 0-2, though. I don't think Aiden left him with
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: a great running back situation. Because you know what he
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: said to me after the draft? Man, these unks, all
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: they draft is running backs. I don't know why you
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: draft these running backs in a PPR league, man. So
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: I didn't get the top running backs, but whatever. So
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: I don't know. We're going to have to monitor that.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: At some point, will the guy text in asking for
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: a refund? From Mac Jr. I just wonder if Mac Jr.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: gets fired at some point from his consulting gig. Oh, man.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, of course I'm not rooting for that.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm curious to know if it happens or not.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Hopefully he turns it around so Aiden does not feel
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: the heat. But anyway, how do you keep track of
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: six fantasy leagues? Hell, but there's dudes out there listening.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: There's like adults doing that with jobs and stuff.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: How do you do that? That's crazy.
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: Some people have six teams for real of their own,
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: not just fantasy teams.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: That's hard to keep up with. How do you do that, too?
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: Sometimes teams get forgotten about along the way. Hello to
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: the Giants. How many fantasy leagues you do fit?
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I'm in two.
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: See, that seems more like it. I'm in zero now
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: for the seventh straight year. Yeah, I got too old
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: for that belief. Once they made betting legal over here
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: in North Carolina. You prefer that avenue.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: You prefer that? I don't blame you on that. All right. Anyway,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: this dude says his buddy's in 19 leagues. How do
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: y'all do that? Seminole Lloyds in eight leagues, and I
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: love it.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: I know we kind of went off a little off
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: task here, but then when you're in that many leagues,
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: you end up rooting for stuff in one game, but
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: you have a lot of crossover with players where you
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: need this guy to do well in one game, but
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: you might be playing against him in another game.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of stuff going on there with 19 Lloyds.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Then what do you even root for? You got every
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: player in the league. That's what I mean. So how
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: do you know what the hell you're rooting for? Oh,
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: my guy scored, but I'm playing against that guy.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Anyway, we're supposed to be freaking out about injuries. This
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: segment got derailed, baby.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: I forgot.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Or we're supposed to be not freaking out about injuries. Yeah,
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: the Brooks thing with Chuba the runner the way he is,
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: with Bryce playing the way he is, if that stuff continues,
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: I think it's fine.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: And you're right about A.J. Dillon. I do think maybe
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: it helps the running game. You know what I mean?
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Brooks was not exactly, and it is all his fault,
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: taking off in the running game just yet.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: All right. What about these other?
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: Now, the good injury news yesterday was that Bobby Brown
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: and Pat Jones were full go. So if you get
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: those two guys back, that's it's big for the defensive line.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Jalen Coker limited with the ankle injury.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: You feel like I do about that one, like they're
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: going to just kind of take it easy and then
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: ramp him up.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they may do this a lot for a while.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Until the bye, maybe?
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: Last week was a little concerning at first, but the
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: way he performed after that, I'm not worried about it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: I think it's more just trying to make sure it
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: doesn't get worse.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: During the week. I don't worry too much about that.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: And then maybe the bye, then maybe the ankle heals,
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: and then they can get back to normal.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: The ones that I was worried about.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: And I will say this, some of y'all Panther fans
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: jumped on Twitter and were like, dude, it's Wednesday injuries, man.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Settle down. It was just a surprise of them. You're
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: just not ready for them, and they're two stars. Devin
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: Lloyd coming off his NFC Player of the Week, Defense
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Player of the Week performance, we found out he got
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: a calf strain in the first half. So the first
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: thing you think is, dude, look how good he looked
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: in the second half. It didn't bother him. He himself
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: said he's not very concerned about it. Jalen Phillips, though,
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: had his back injury flare up. He has had, you know,
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: some health stuff in the past. Do you worry about
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: those at all? Is it too early in the week
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: to worry? What do you think?
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: I am not panicking, but I'm slightly concerned about a
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: calf strain. Only because, Mac, I have some Yankees that
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: pull their calves all the time.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: And I know how much it can come up again
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: along the way.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: For example, Matt, Giancarlo Stanton pulled a calf, had a
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: calf strain in April. He then tried to rehab it,
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: and he pulled a calf again, trying to rehab it,
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: and then he did it a third time. That's a
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: little bit extreme, but I do worry about that specific
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: injury seems to always linger a little bit. So I'm
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: not going to panic about it, but I worry that
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: that's something that never quite goes away for the season, right? Yeah,
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: this dude says— And those things can also lead— we' ve seen with, like,
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: Halliburton and stuff in basketball, like— You know, you play
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: on one of those things. You got to be careful
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: with that. Well, yeah, that could lead to an Achilles.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: So I don't worry that much. Not freaking out, but
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: monitoring that a little bit. This texter says, are Panther
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: fans on Twitter new here? Mac is going to get
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: neurotic about every damn injury.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Erotic?
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: Neurotic.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, neurotic.
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: Neurotic.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: I don't have some sort of football player injury fetish
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: that turns me on. No, I'm going to get panicky
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: and get.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Worried about it.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: You said erotic. Neurotic. I do have that in me.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: I do worry.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: I do probably care too much. I will say it
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: probably you got to see today. I think if they
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: DNP today. It still doesn't mean a lot, but our
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: final show of the week is tomorrow. I think I
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: will be concerned if they're DNP. I'd like to see
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: a progression to limited today for those boys. Again, I'm
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: cool on Wednesday.
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: I'm not freaking out, although I may have just freaked
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: out a little bit in the last answer I gave.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: But no, Wednesday is a day of calmness. Today's not Wednesday,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: is it? No, today's Thursday.
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: The injury report was on Wednesday. The report from Wednesday.
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: I'm not freaking out over what happened on Wednesday. Thursday,
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: it's eye-opening, and Friday, it's full-fledged panic. There you go.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: It's a good thing we're not the afternoon show, because
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: when that Friday injury report comes in and I'm reacting
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: to it, I probably would be freaking out.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: We have no chance without this guy. You know what
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: I mean? It's probably good I'm not doing that show. Right. Yeah.
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: When we come back in the Mac and Bone Show,
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: Jones Angel of the Tar Heel Radio Network recaps the
• 43:04
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