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Credlin | 4 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. It'd be great having
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Speaker 2: Steve Priser in the studio, hasn't it. Here's what's coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight on Kredline. The political shift happening in Victoria.
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Speaker 2: Nowhere is it more evident than into Allan's own seat
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Speaker 2: of Benigo East. Now I was there just the other
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Speaker 2: day and I've got some very interesting information to give
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Speaker 2: you about the bloke that's working to booter out of
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Speaker 2: Parliament and what the locals have said to me. They
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Speaker 2: reckon he can do it. We'll get you that in
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Speaker 2: a moment. Class A proposal to broadcast Islamic called a
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Speaker 2: prayer over loud speakers in a Sydney suburb. Fierce community backlash.
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Speaker 2: But it's not just about the noise. We'll speak to
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Speaker 2: an expert about what's really driving the concern. Plast the
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Speaker 2: fallad from that shocking death of teenager Henry ywarck Anger
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Speaker 2: continuing to grow. Could it lead to a political and
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Speaker 2: cultural reckoning in the UK? We'll see. Najafarraj is also
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Speaker 2: taking on the BBC over what he says was misreporting
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Speaker 2: about his comments and Labour's tax grab sails through the
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Speaker 2: lower House, No surprises, Labour's got the numbers there, But
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Speaker 2: grilling in the senate's exposed to government that's struggling to
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Speaker 2: explain its own legislation. Was there a rushed process for
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Speaker 2: these tax reforms? It was a busy budget session, you know,
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Speaker 2: like it always is. So yes, it was a rushed process. No,
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that we'll stay with that issue because
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Speaker 2: there was a whole lot of noise in the Parliament
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Speaker 2: today as Labor rammed through the lower House. Legislation will
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Speaker 2: dramatically reshape the Australian tax system, with particular emphasis on
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Speaker 2: property taxes and capital gains something. Of course they repeatedly
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Speaker 2: said that prior to the election they would not do.
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Speaker 2: They lied and they did it. Anyway.
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Speaker 3: Can you rule out any changes to negative gearing and
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Speaker 3: capital gains tax?
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Speaker 4: How hard is it?
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Speaker 5: Time negative gearing is off the table?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's off the table, lie, lie, lie.
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Speaker 2: Not that the Parliament can use that word after it
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Speaker 2: was banned by the Speaker, of course, something that I
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Speaker 2: know just angers Australians. As we saw in the sky
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Speaker 2: News Pulse poll yesterday, voter remorse. So people regretting voting
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Speaker 2: for labor. Well that is growing and the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: has a woeful sixty percent disapproval vote. Now people don't
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Speaker 2: trust him. First that light to cuts your power bill
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Speaker 2: are now this hit to housing. Now what is striking
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Speaker 2: is just how immediately the budget has hit the property sector.
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Speaker 2: Auction clearance rates will their down. Confidence is shot and
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Speaker 2: reports today as I warned, would happen. Investors now forced
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Speaker 2: into new bills, competing with first home buyers who traditionally
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Speaker 2: buy into an entry level apartment or a house and
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Speaker 2: lad package out in the suburbs. Worse still has been
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Speaker 2: that fall in house values. Now when our home is
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Speaker 2: by a large list for most of us, our biggest asset,
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Speaker 2: any wonder people are worried, as they should be, because
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Speaker 2: this government's financially illiterate. It doesn't understand the sectors that
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Speaker 2: it's regulating, and the longer that labors in charge, the
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Speaker 2: more risk we have of economic downturn. As the GDP
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Speaker 2: numbers yesterday confirm productivity is weak and our economic growth
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Speaker 2: is just zero point three percent for the March quarter.
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Speaker 2: It's only being propped up by record high migration. But
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Speaker 2: don't worries says the boss of the ACTU. If things
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Speaker 2: keep slowing down, you just go to work five days,
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Speaker 2: three days, but will pay you five, Pay you five,
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Speaker 2: says business. And all those public servants too. They've got
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Speaker 2: no understanding in camera that if workers don't work five
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Speaker 2: days or business can't afford to pay them, to sit
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Speaker 2: at home. Now, what's shocked about this legislation today is
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Speaker 2: the way that labor has handled it, because what they
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Speaker 2: have done is hit a new low.
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Speaker 7: But tricky Labor, this tricky treasurer, has deliberately tied these
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Speaker 7: measures to.
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Speaker 4: Its toxic taxes.
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Speaker 7: Ramming this legislation through the Parliament without sufficient scrutiny is
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Speaker 7: an act of political expediency, an act of political bastardy,
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Speaker 7: mister Speaker.
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Speaker 2: When I worked in Parliament House, Jim Chalmers was a
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Speaker 2: staffer like me. He was Wayne Swan's chief of staff
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Speaker 2: at the time. And can I tell you this, he
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Speaker 2: was never regarded as much of a policy brain. Indeed,
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Speaker 2: quite the opposite. He was and still has a career
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Speaker 2: built on spin and getting the numbers to get him
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Speaker 2: a seat in that respector I guess he's been successful.
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Speaker 2: The problem, though, for our country today is that this
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Speaker 2: political operators. Former staff is now the Treasurer and he's
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Speaker 2: got legislation through the Lower House this afternoon that gives
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Speaker 2: him extraordinary powers. Now, the bill that went through the Parliament,
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Speaker 2: at least the lower House, it's still got to get
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Speaker 2: through the Senate is basically a bill full of blanks,
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Speaker 2: where the detail gets filled in by him down the
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Speaker 2: track when it suits him. With what, well, we still
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Speaker 2: don't know, and with unbelievable arrogance. Not one bit of
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Speaker 2: what he puts in requires him to go back to
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Speaker 2: the Parliament and to seek authorization for those changes. Now,
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Speaker 2: the fact that it requires all of the fact that
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Speaker 2: Labor requires all of these details to be filled in
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Speaker 2: later tells you two things. The first, Labor doesn't want
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Speaker 2: you to know what's in the bill, hence the absence
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Speaker 2: of detail. And the second that these changes are so
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Speaker 2: rushed that even if Labor was forced to put the
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Speaker 2: detail in, most of it's not even been worked out,
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Speaker 2: so they can't put it in to legislative that's the problem.
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Speaker 2: Households and businesses will now be subject to heavy fines
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Speaker 2: from the Tax Office if they failed to follow laws
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Speaker 2: that the government hasn't even decided yet. Households and businesses
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Speaker 2: are having their financial lives turned upside down over laws
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Speaker 2: that the government swore it would not change but did,
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Speaker 2: and yet still can't tell us exactly what they are
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Speaker 2: in proper detail. Any wonder that even one time supporters
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Speaker 2: are demanding they call an election.
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Speaker 3: The capital gains tax. If I hadn't known they were
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Speaker 3: going to do that, I wouldn't have voted for them.
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Speaker 5: I voted for Elbow and Charmers.
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Speaker 3: They didn't have a mandac for changing capital gains taks,
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Speaker 3: so it's now the highest in the world.
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Speaker 5: No one is going to want to invest in Australia.
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Speaker 3: Doing the bumbling, fumbling, idiotic responses when questioned this week
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Speaker 3: by both elbow and and every other minister in that
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Speaker 3: stupid government, just solidify the fact we need another election.
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Speaker 2: There you go, right, just staying with housing and the
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Speaker 2: minister who refuses to admit that the price of your
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Speaker 2: home going up in value is a good thing, well
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Speaker 2: it is a good thing, but she doesn't want to
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Speaker 2: say that. In question Time, Labour's Clara O'Neill was asked
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Speaker 2: about the government's five percent home deposit scheme and the
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Speaker 2: fact that there are now fifty one thousand foreigners accessing
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Speaker 2: taxpayer support to buy their first home. Listen to this
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Speaker 2: question from Queensland Liberal Henry Pike, and the.
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Speaker 8: Minister confirmed the Albanezi Labor government has acted as a
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Speaker 8: guaranteur for fifty one thousand non citizens to buy their
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Speaker 8: first home.
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Speaker 2: There you go, that's a question. Now here's the minister's response.
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Speaker 7: In it.
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Speaker 2: You're going to hear an admission that I don't think
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Speaker 2: she even really lives. She made two hundred and fifty
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Speaker 2: thousand people around this country have the keys to their
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Speaker 2: first home because our government backed in their aspiration. All right,
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Speaker 2: did you hear that? Did you pick it up? Pick
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Speaker 2: up the admission O'Neil saying there that there's now some
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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand people on this taxpayer funded
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Speaker 2: scheme to part cover a new home deposit. Meaning if
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Speaker 2: there's fifty thousand of them a foreigners, that's one in
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Speaker 2: five people that you, as a taxpayer, are supporting who
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Speaker 2: are not even Australian citizens. Now I'm with the opposition
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Speaker 2: on this one. I don't care how long you've been
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Speaker 2: in Australia, why you are here, or what visa class
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Speaker 2: you are on. But unless you are a citizen, you
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Speaker 2: should not get the special benefits that citizenship confers. After all,
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Speaker 2: when you become an Australian citizen, you make a commitment
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Speaker 2: to this country, and so why should taxpayers have to
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Speaker 2: make a financial commitment to anyone that doesn't make a
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Speaker 2: commitment to our country. Why Claire one Ill and Labor
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Speaker 2: they live in a bubble if they don't think this
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Speaker 2: matters out in the real world. It does, and poll
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Speaker 2: after pol tells them that if only they were prepared
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Speaker 2: to listen. It has been a busy fortnite. Of course,
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Speaker 2: we've had the House sitting for two weeks. We've had
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Speaker 2: the Senate running its estimates. That's up. Now next time
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Speaker 2: you'll see them, they'll both be sitting together and those
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Speaker 2: bills will be pushed through the Upper House as tax bills.
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Speaker 2: Let's get the headlines now though. To wrap up the
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Speaker 2: fortnite skin is political reporter cam Redden.
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Speaker 6: Good evening Labour's tax reform bill has cleared its first hurdle,
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Speaker 6: having passed the House of Representatives.
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Speaker 4: The matter was resolved in the Affirmative.
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Speaker 7: Ramming this legislation through the Parliament without sufficient scrutiny is
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Speaker 7: an act of political expediency, an act of political bastardy.
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Speaker 9: Mister Speaker, we are actually being asked to vote on
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Speaker 9: this legislation knowing that it likely doesn't represent the intended
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Speaker 9: final operation.
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Speaker 2: Of these reforms.
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Speaker 6: That's because the government is still consulting on a range
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Speaker 6: of possible changes, including through a Senate inquiry process which
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Speaker 6: will hold public hearings within a fortnight.
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Speaker 10: The Coalition is voting against tax cuts once again.
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Speaker 6: Parliament's newest member has had his first crack at question time.
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Speaker 11: The call to their member for Farah Yeah, thank you,
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Speaker 11: mister Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Defense.
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Speaker 11: Has the Department of Defense provided any formal input into
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Speaker 11: the review of the two thousand and seven Water Act.
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Speaker 2: Well, I thank the member for his inaugural question.
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Speaker 6: Cameron Redden's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: All right, no surprises that that legislation has can just
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Speaker 2: said through the House. Of course, they've got the numbers.
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Speaker 2: The real fights now in the Senate, and I have
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Speaker 2: to say in Senate estimates this week Labor and the
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Speaker 2: bureaucrats will they've not covered themselves in glory. First up,
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Speaker 2: it was the Treasury Secretary who couldn't say what Modeley
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Speaker 2: had been done.
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Speaker 1: But man, so have you actually modeled this? Have you
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Speaker 1: got something quantitative?
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Speaker 10: There is really mixed empirical evidence about whether changes to
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Speaker 10: tax arrangements such as cabal gains tax Can.
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Speaker 1: I just get it clear, We've only got five minutes ago.
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Speaker 1: I'm just struggling a little, sorry, Secretary, have you modeled
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Speaker 1: have you estimated the impact of these tax changes the
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Speaker 1: big ones, capital gains and gearing trusts on productivity?
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Speaker 10: So we have assessed that these would move the system
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Speaker 10: towards an allocation of capital which is more consistent with
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Speaker 10: where economic returns would suggest that investment should take place.
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Speaker 1: Do these tax changes reduce materially reduce personal income tax
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Speaker 1: rates for Australians?
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Speaker 10: So these tax changes reduce personal income taxes for mosts
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Speaker 10: in relation to the working strain tax offset.
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Speaker 2: And that's all right, that's just blather. That's public servants
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Speaker 2: blather to obscure the facts. Then there was this from
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Speaker 2: the Finance Minister Katie Gallagher? Is there a rushed process
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Speaker 2: for these tax reforms? It was a busy budget session,
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Speaker 2: you know, like it always is. So yes, it was
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Speaker 2: a rushed process. No, I'm not saying that I'm got
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Speaker 2: to flick through and know it's something. She's the way.
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Speaker 2: They couldn't tell you whether the budgets are savings, when
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Speaker 2: they're savings or gross savings. They are not across the
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Speaker 2: brief joining me now for the wrap up of that fortnight,
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Speaker 2: hasn't said One Nation Chief of Staffed James ashby a
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Speaker 2: Sky contributed Carol katzimbardas well. James, you know you and
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Speaker 2: I have set through a lot of these estimate hearings
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Speaker 2: that they've had a shocker of the last fortnight, but
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Speaker 2: a lot of this that they are deliberately obtuse. They
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Speaker 2: do not want to give us the detail, perhaps because
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Speaker 2: they don't want us to know what they would have
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Speaker 2: put in these bills. But I don't actually think they've
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Speaker 2: got them ready to even legislate properly.
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Speaker 12: No, the blame game has begun.
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Speaker 8: Treasury want those guys to take the blame, and the
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Speaker 8: government want those guys to take the blame. No one's
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Speaker 8: prepared to stick their hand up and say, yeah, we're
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Speaker 8: responsible for what has been passed through parliament today. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 8: Anthony Albanezi has sold five million dollars three properties over
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Speaker 8: the recent years. Now, if my stockbroker did that, he'd
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Speaker 8: be done for inside of trading, because he would know
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Speaker 8: very well that he if he had done the wrong thing,
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Speaker 8: knowing full well that a company that he had shares
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Speaker 8: in was about to plummet or changes were going to
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Speaker 8: take place, he'd.
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Speaker 12: Be done for inside of trading.
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Speaker 8: And here we've got a prime minister who has sold
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Speaker 8: off these investment properties five million dollars worth and he's
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Speaker 8: not going to be subjected to these changes to capital
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Speaker 8: gains tax or anything else. At this government brought in,
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Speaker 8: he knew very well what he was going to do
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Speaker 8: down the track, and he safeguarded his own self fortune
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Speaker 8: while putting everybody else who tried to get ahead just
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Speaker 8: that little bit further. Peter, he's put them under the bus,
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Speaker 8: and meanwhile he's thrown everyone else under the bus as well.
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Speaker 12: Even Treasury.
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Speaker 2: They think they're too clever by half Carelli, because they've
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Speaker 2: put the nasties the CGT in property tax changes in
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Speaker 2: the same bit of legislation where people get the two
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars sort of tax break perannum. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's what sixty cents a day. But nonetheless they've put
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Speaker 2: the two measures together. They really should be in two
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Speaker 2: separate bills, but they put them all together and they
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Speaker 2: think they're tricky because at night most of the commercial
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Speaker 2: TVs will run the headline that you know that the coalition,
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Speaker 2: the Liberals and One Nation voted against these tax breaks,
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Speaker 2: but they actually voted against the terrible tax hikes. But
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Speaker 2: the government, you know, beautiful on the politics, terrible on
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Speaker 2: the policy. Definitely.
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Speaker 13: Look, I think that when you've got both sides of politics,
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Speaker 13: people from all sides that are actually disagreeing, it shows
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Speaker 13: that these are terrible, toxic taxes and there needs to
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Speaker 13: be an open Senate inquiry to get to the bottom
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Speaker 13: of it, because as you said, they're just hoping on
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Speaker 13: a headline that it will all get through. The bottom
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Speaker 13: line is they've lied to the Australian people. I don't
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Speaker 13: care what Milton Dick, the Speaker may make classifiers.
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Speaker 4: A lie or not.
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Speaker 13: They didn't take this to an election. This is not
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Speaker 13: what Australians have actually voted for and it's not going
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Speaker 13: to make life any better for younger Australians or older Australians.
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Speaker 13: There are some horrific things that they've done, and no,
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Speaker 13: it doesn't give them a mandate.
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Speaker 2: To just ram through a whole heap of things.
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Speaker 13: So I think a good open Senate inquiry will at
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Speaker 13: least uncover a lot of what's going on.
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Speaker 2: Labor things are pretty cruel on those non citizens who
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Speaker 2: are accessing a taxpayer fund and deposit scheme that you
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Speaker 2: and the Liberals somehow hate migrants, But I think most
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Speaker 2: Australians out there would say, if you haven't signed up
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Speaker 2: to be an Australian citizen, where you don't get to
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Speaker 2: sign yourself up to our welfare or taxpayer support either.
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Speaker 2: I mean one in five James revealed by Clara O'Neil
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Speaker 2: today in question Time, is accessing this scheme. One in
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Speaker 2: five and they don't even have Australian citizenship.
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Speaker 13: No.
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Speaker 8: Look, I will say there are one point two million
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Speaker 8: thereabout people who are permanent residents in this country. In
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Speaker 8: other words, you know, they've been given the permanent residency
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Speaker 8: to stay here and the next step is obviously citizenship.
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Speaker 12: They've just got to go through that process.
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Speaker 8: But for some of these people have been sitting in
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Speaker 8: no man's land with that permanent residency status now for
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Speaker 8: a couple of decades. I know plenty of poems that
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Speaker 8: come out of here thirty forty years ago and are
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Speaker 8: still only permanent residents, but they've never taken that oath.
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Speaker 8: And I think you can't be half pregnant. You either
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Speaker 8: want to be Australian, therefore go through the process, and
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Speaker 8: therefore you can enjoy the spoils of what we as
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Speaker 8: tax payers and the government are putting forward. Maybe we've
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Speaker 8: got to put a time limit on what the process is.
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Speaker 8: It's like I often said, it's like engagement. Well that
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Speaker 8: is marriage. The next step is marriage. And if you're
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Speaker 8: not prepared to make the full commitment, well I'm sorry,
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Speaker 8: you might as well call it off. I think put
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Speaker 8: a time limit on that non on that permanent residency.
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Speaker 8: You either commit to this country otherwise do not get
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Speaker 8: the benefits of Medicare and everything else that comes with it.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the One nation poll Kerali women, wealthy
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Speaker 2: and city voters and so called progressives and our all
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Speaker 2: moving one nation's way. There's been a huge jump actually
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Speaker 2: in relation to women, from six percent to twenty four percent.
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Speaker 2: Now I have to say, if you look at where
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Speaker 2: these seats are falling, the teals should be worried. But
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Speaker 2: I'll also make the broader point. You know, Pauline Hanson
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Speaker 2: hasn't gone out there and announced all these special policies
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Speaker 2: for women because you and Carol, as you know, we
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Speaker 2: argue that women want the same things as the men do.
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Speaker 2: We want a good economy, we have national security. We
18:06
Speaker 2: haven't had to be tempted with a policy with a
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Speaker 2: pink cover on it to get our vote. They look
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Speaker 2: at Pauline, they see consistency, they see strength, they see resilience.
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Speaker 2: You know, maybe that's what's getting them over the line.
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Speaker 2: But this will be worrying those teals.
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Speaker 13: Let me tell you, well, the bottom line is Pauline
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Speaker 13: has been as she has been for thirty years. But
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Speaker 13: women are actually realizing that what she's saying is actually true.
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Speaker 13: And I think the display by the Sex Discrimination Commissioner
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Speaker 13: An A. Cody the other day just showed how ridiculous
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Speaker 13: it has now been. A lot of these women have daughters,
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Speaker 13: they have nieces. They're actually aware that women are being
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Speaker 13: eradicated in society because of all this murkiness about this
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Speaker 13: gender transition and all these riots and trans and everything,
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Speaker 13: and women are just being completely written.
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Speaker 2: Out of it.
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Speaker 13: And so no wonder when you've got somebody like Pauline.
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Speaker 13: She's a mum herself, she speaks plain language. She's also
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Speaker 13: an aunt when she actually says what most women have
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Speaker 13: identified with for twenty years, than what can you say?
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Speaker 13: And I know that Julia Gillard has been in an
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Speaker 13: article going on and on about her misogyny, speech, etc.
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Speaker 13: That woman's got a real hide because she effectively wrote
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Speaker 13: women out of the Sex Discrimination Act. And I'm actually
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Speaker 13: fed up of reading about that one line, trick pony
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Speaker 13: of the misogyny. And she never experienced sexism or misogyny
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Speaker 13: till she was Prime minister. You know, the issue that
19:34
Speaker 13: needs to be said is what she said, there will
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Speaker 13: never be a carbon tax under the government I lead.
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Speaker 13: If all she's got to hang her hat on is
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Speaker 13: that ridiculous line that she said that was deflection away
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Speaker 13: from a dreadful government that she led, then I'm a
19:49
Speaker 13: monkey's uncle. And I'll just add one more thing. She
19:52
Speaker 13: actually professes this love and admiration for Barack Obama. She
19:56
Speaker 13: needs to go back to history. In twenty eleven, the
19:59
Speaker 13: withdrawal from a rug of a buck of Barack Obama
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Speaker 13: led to the security vacuum, which allowed ices to flourish,
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Speaker 13: and the twenty to fifteen nuclear deal with a run
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Speaker 13: has actually paved the way for all the issues that
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Speaker 13: are here and that Trump is trying to clear up.
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Speaker 2: James Ashby and I were insiders to that whole misogyny speech.
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Speaker 2: I think at another time, James, you and I might
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Speaker 2: just have a bit of a chat about that so
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Speaker 2: people can understand what really went on. That would be important.
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Speaker 2: But these are your women coming across. These are wealthy
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Speaker 2: inner city types that are now voting for one nation
20:36
Speaker 2: if the polls are to be believed. Give me your
20:38
Speaker 2: take on what's driving them over.
20:42
Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 8: I get a sense that most women today are those
20:45
Speaker 8: that pay the grocery bill. They're seeing those prices shoot up.
20:49
Speaker 8: They're paying the insurance bill, They're paying typically to have
20:53
Speaker 8: the car refueled. They are paying every extraordinary excessive bill
20:58
Speaker 8: that has been driven up by what has been inflationary
21:02
Speaker 8: that has seen prices just escalate because of this green
21:07
Speaker 8: dream as well.
21:08
Speaker 12: Net zero has driven things as well.
21:11
Speaker 8: And I agree with Caroly in the sense that it
21:15
Speaker 8: is the mums as well as the dads that are
21:18
Speaker 8: concerned about their young daughters in school where boys are
21:21
Speaker 8: entering girls toilets where men are entering women's sport, and
21:25
Speaker 8: this whole ideology that's been taught at universities and beyond
21:29
Speaker 8: even in the workplace, particularly in government workspaces and the ABC.
21:33
Speaker 8: It's concerning and women are now starting to prick their
21:36
Speaker 8: ears and go, hang on a second, this is not right.
21:39
Speaker 8: What happened to the promises that this government made where
21:42
Speaker 8: they said things would get cheaper under them and there's
21:45
Speaker 8: been less transparency and you can't speak out against it.
21:48
Speaker 12: That's what's concerning women.
21:49
Speaker 8: And they're really terrified about the future for the young
21:52
Speaker 8: children themselves, and the Prime.
21:55
Speaker 2: Minister better be careful. Women don't like blokes. You lie
21:58
Speaker 2: to us. That's what it's got. A lot of women
22:00
Speaker 2: backs up absolutely that lie. I'll leave it. They have
22:03
Speaker 2: a lovely weekend. I have a long weekend. Actually King's
22:05
Speaker 2: Birthday this weekend. We'll see you both next week. Now
22:08
Speaker 2: to the reignited debate playing out in Sydney's West, considerable
22:12
Speaker 2: backlash over a plan to broadcast the Islammy Call to
22:15
Speaker 2: Prayer of a loudspeakers from the La Kember Mosque. It
22:19
Speaker 2: would be played, they say, for around fifteen minutes at lunchtime.
22:22
Speaker 2: The plan's been knocked back once, but the mosque organizers
22:27
Speaker 2: or they've come back and repercharged it. Here to discuss
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Speaker 2: the ins and Out's Associate Professor Peter Curti, director of Culture,
22:34
Speaker 2: Prosperity and the Civil Society Program at the think tank
22:38
Speaker 2: the Center for Independent Studies. And you've also as you know, Peter,
22:42
Speaker 2: I want my audience to understand you've really written extensively
22:46
Speaker 2: about the role of religion and social cohesion, so I
22:50
Speaker 2: think you are the man to speak to about this.
22:53
Speaker 2: This isn't just a planning dispute, is it. It isn't
22:55
Speaker 2: just a barney about noise. What's driving the concern.
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Speaker 4: I think the concern is about this.
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Speaker 14: It's not about the noise, and I don't think it's
23:04
Speaker 14: about whether Muslims have the right to pray. We have
23:08
Speaker 14: religious freedom in this country and Muslims are of course
23:11
Speaker 14: free to pray, as are any other religious people. This
23:14
Speaker 14: is about turning a public space, a secular public space,
23:18
Speaker 14: into an extension of the mosque, because what the call
23:22
Speaker 14: to prayer they are done effectively does is project Islamic
23:26
Speaker 14: teaching into the public square so that people who are
23:30
Speaker 14: passing by who don't necessarily want to hear these doctrinal
23:35
Speaker 14: statements will have to hear them.
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Speaker 4: And that's what it is. I think it's crossing the
23:39
Speaker 4: threshold from the private to the public.
23:44
Speaker 2: Okay, they'll come back and say, how is it any
23:47
Speaker 2: different than church bells coming out of say an Anglican
23:51
Speaker 2: or Catholic cathedral in the center of town.
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Speaker 14: Well, there are plenty of people who don't like the
23:55
Speaker 14: sound of church bells, that's the first thing that has
23:57
Speaker 14: to be said.
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Speaker 4: But I think the difference is this. Church bells are
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Speaker 4: not verbal.
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Speaker 14: They are used to signal time, the passage of time,
24:07
Speaker 14: and some worshipers to prayer not by any kind of
24:12
Speaker 14: verbal content, but simply by the sound of bringing to
24:15
Speaker 14: alert that the time has come now they are done.
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Speaker 14: By contrast, is a verbal summons to prayer, and it
24:21
Speaker 14: contains doctrinal content which is then projected right out into
24:26
Speaker 14: the public space, into the public space, effectively extending what
24:31
Speaker 14: we might call the liturgical space of the mosque, beyond
24:34
Speaker 14: the waters of the mosque into that public space. And
24:37
Speaker 14: I have to say that if churches decided they wanted
24:40
Speaker 14: to mount speakers and have sermons projected out into Railway
24:44
Speaker 14: Square in Sydney or wherever churches are located. I would
24:48
Speaker 14: object to that as well.
24:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to ask you that would be
24:52
Speaker 2: the probably the neatest parallel in the Call to Prayer.
24:57
Speaker 2: I obviously don't speak Arabic. What are some of the
24:59
Speaker 2: staf Can you tell us what is said in that
25:02
Speaker 2: call to prayer?
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Speaker 4: Well?
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Speaker 14: I don't speak Arabic either, but the Call to Prayer
25:07
Speaker 14: contains declarations about the mate and the power of God,
25:11
Speaker 14: about the duty of Muslims to pray, and a reminder
25:16
Speaker 14: of that duty.
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Speaker 4: But essentially I think it is a call. It is
25:20
Speaker 4: a reminder of the place of God.
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Speaker 14: In the life, in the lives of individual Muslims, and
25:25
Speaker 14: a reminder to them that they need to come and
25:27
Speaker 14: pray and they need to give thanks to God.
25:30
Speaker 2: I think it's a concern people have about halal food
25:33
Speaker 2: either if you want if you're a Muslim and you
25:35
Speaker 2: want to adhere to halal food or kosher food if
25:37
Speaker 2: you're a Jew, fine, but I don't like it, and
25:40
Speaker 2: a lot of Australians don't like to hit the supermarket
25:43
Speaker 2: and find that every bit of meat you're going to
25:44
Speaker 2: pick up has got a helluse certification on it as well.
25:48
Speaker 2: I guess you know. I go back to the situation.
25:52
Speaker 2: Last year. I was in Gibraltar, and as people know,
25:55
Speaker 2: it's the edge of Europe, and there was a large
25:58
Speaker 2: Christian church at the edge of Gibraltar, and the Saudis
26:02
Speaker 2: then funded an enormous mosque and deliberately built to be
26:05
Speaker 2: much taller than the church, so that the last thing
26:10
Speaker 2: a European would see would be a mosque as they
26:12
Speaker 2: crossed the water, and the first thing an Islamic person
26:15
Speaker 2: from Africa would see is a mosque on the state
26:18
Speaker 2: on the land of Europe. We see around the world,
26:22
Speaker 2: we see, particularly in the UK and France, now mass
26:26
Speaker 2: Islamic prayer in the streets out the front of Christian churches.
26:31
Speaker 2: What's that about, Peter.
26:33
Speaker 14: Well, that doesn't happen in Australia, I think, but I've
26:36
Speaker 14: certainly seen footage of events like that in London. I
26:40
Speaker 14: think commandeering the public space on a regular basis is
26:45
Speaker 14: not appropriate. Now, at certain times of the year, Christians,
26:48
Speaker 14: some Christians march through the streets, they take they have
26:51
Speaker 14: a procession through the streets. This might happen on Palm
26:53
Speaker 14: Sunday at the beginning of the week before Easter. Many
26:58
Speaker 14: Christians take part in them those sorts of processions, but
27:02
Speaker 14: that happens once a year. It's occasional, it's not a
27:05
Speaker 14: regular feature. I think it's okay for religious people to
27:09
Speaker 14: gather in public spaces on an occasional basis for worship,
27:13
Speaker 14: but I don't think it's appropriate to commandeer, either in
27:16
Speaker 14: physical terms or in terms of the sound that's projected
27:20
Speaker 14: that space, which is a secular and free space. Religious
27:23
Speaker 14: freedom doesn't mean the freedom to commandeer the public space,
27:28
Speaker 14: the space that you and I and other Australians share.
27:31
Speaker 14: That religious freedom is about the freedom to worship and
27:34
Speaker 14: to order one's lives according to the principles of one's
27:38
Speaker 14: religious belief. I think the question is about whether or
27:42
Speaker 14: not that extends beyond the walls of the mosque or
27:45
Speaker 14: the church or the synagogue and takes over a public
27:48
Speaker 14: space which needs to be neutral.
27:52
Speaker 2: I will say we did see a feature of the
27:53
Speaker 2: Islamic prayer in those pro Palestinian marches and protests in
27:57
Speaker 2: sitting at one stage and police went to move them on,
28:00
Speaker 2: and they argue that they were praying and claim there
28:04
Speaker 2: were claims of Islamophobia in relation to the movement by police,
28:08
Speaker 2: and I remember that at the time, and the premieer
28:10
Speaker 2: was backing in the police just quickly. You think they're
28:12
Speaker 2: likely to get this up. I mean they're pushing again.
28:16
Speaker 12: Haigh.
28:16
Speaker 2: They were told no, they're back again. What's your thought.
28:19
Speaker 4: It's hard to know.
28:20
Speaker 14: It depends what the political mood around Lukember is and
28:23
Speaker 14: what the council, what vested interests the council takes into account.
28:29
Speaker 4: It's hard to know. It could be that local.
28:32
Speaker 14: Businesses and residents are persuaded that this is not an issue.
28:35
Speaker 14: I would prefer not to see speakers on minarets in Australia.
28:40
Speaker 14: But at the end of the day, of course, it's
28:42
Speaker 14: for the Council to make its own decision about that.
28:45
Speaker 14: But if it does make a favor in the decision
28:47
Speaker 14: in favor of speakers on minarets, it will set a
28:50
Speaker 14: precedent and we will see this happening elsewhere.
28:54
Speaker 2: All over there. Peter CURDI, thank you, Thanks youv. We'll
28:56
Speaker 2: stay across that issue. Of course. After the break, we're
28:59
Speaker 2: going to Indigo. A popular local publican's making his mark
29:03
Speaker 2: on the campaign already. He's taking on the Premier and
29:07
Speaker 2: he's scaring her so much that she's hit the street
29:10
Speaker 2: door knocking. She hasn't done that for a while. We'll
29:12
Speaker 2: meet the lion killer or the would be line killer
29:15
Speaker 2: Andrew leth Lean coming out.
29:22
Speaker 4: Right.
29:22
Speaker 2: More alarming allegations made in court. They are claims in
29:26
Speaker 2: relation to the Melbourne isis woman and the claim about
29:31
Speaker 2: sexual slavery. I'll get you something on that in a moment,
29:34
Speaker 2: and also to the alarming but not so surprising crime
29:37
Speaker 2: stats to put Melbourne at the very top of a
29:40
Speaker 2: dubious list. We'll get to that at the moment. But
29:42
Speaker 2: now to the fight facing the Victorian premier just into Alan,
29:45
Speaker 2: not just to retain government in November, but actually just
29:49
Speaker 2: to hold on to her own seat of Bendigo East.
29:51
Speaker 2: Now Labour's held that seat for two decades, but now
29:55
Speaker 2: locals say time's up. Very frustrated, they are over a
29:58
Speaker 2: series of failures and broke and promises. I traveled to
30:01
Speaker 2: Bendigo last Friday to see first hand whether the momentum
30:05
Speaker 2: against Allan's reel and what it could mean for Labour's
30:09
Speaker 2: popularity across country Victoria. In the old gold Rush city
30:20
Speaker 2: of Bendigo, a political battle is under way and it'll
30:25
Speaker 2: shape Victoria's November state election well before polling day. That's
30:30
Speaker 2: because Bendigo was Premier just into Allen's hometown and after
30:34
Speaker 2: twenty six years, it looks like locals are ready to
30:37
Speaker 2: show her the door, meaning there's already talk she could
30:41
Speaker 2: be dumped. So dire are Labour's polling numbers enter the
30:48
Speaker 2: would be line killer popular local publican Andrew Lethlen, who's
30:54
Speaker 2: standing against her, a second time National Party candidate. Lethlene
30:59
Speaker 2: almost one Bendigo's federal seat with a massive ten percent
31:03
Speaker 2: swing to him last year, and now he's got the
31:07
Speaker 2: premier in his sights, taking it on in her seat
31:11
Speaker 2: of Bendigo East that she's held since nineteen ninety nine,
31:15
Speaker 2: when she entered state parliament at just twenty five years
31:19
Speaker 2: of age. Jacenta Allen has been a professional politician as
31:27
Speaker 2: long as Lethlean's owned pubs, and he says she's lost
31:31
Speaker 2: touch with the real world, with the people of this
31:34
Speaker 2: regional community who were fed up with her Melbourne centric
31:37
Speaker 2: style of gumny. And he points to rising crime, soaring
31:41
Speaker 2: cost of living pressures and struggling local businesses as all
31:46
Speaker 2: signs that she just doesn't.
31:48
Speaker 4: Get it.
31:52
Speaker 2: This seat Bendigo East at the state elections, the same
31:55
Speaker 2: sort of margin ten percent, you get the same number
31:58
Speaker 2: you got last year. You'll win this seat and the
32:01
Speaker 2: Premier won't have a job. That's the plan. That's definitely
32:05
Speaker 2: the plan.
32:05
Speaker 15: I think, from beating Disina's point of view, if we're
32:07
Speaker 15: going to win government, we need to get rid of
32:09
Speaker 15: her first and then get a change of government.
32:12
Speaker 2: This is a very different race. It's clear the state
32:14
Speaker 2: government is on the nose, but are they on the
32:18
Speaker 2: nose enough to turf out a local girl who has
32:22
Speaker 2: been there for some time?
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Speaker 15: Twenty seven years, Justin has been here. We're heading towards
32:27
Speaker 15: a two hundred billion dollar debt ten billion dollars a
32:32
Speaker 15: year in interest alone. That just goes to show to
32:35
Speaker 15: me and I hope for the whole community, that the
32:38
Speaker 15: government can't manage money. This interest alone, we're missing out
32:41
Speaker 15: on so many essential services just through the poor management
32:45
Speaker 15: and poor money management of this government.
32:46
Speaker 4: And it's a frustrating for me.
32:49
Speaker 2: So you're a businessman, this is not how you'd run
32:52
Speaker 2: a business, is it.
32:53
Speaker 15: If I run a business like that, the doors would
32:55
Speaker 15: be closed and I'd be shut up shop but as much.
32:58
Speaker 2: As Andrew left Lean says he is ready for the fight.
33:01
Speaker 2: It's what locals are telling me that really counts.
33:05
Speaker 12: Enough's enough.
33:06
Speaker 9: You know people have had it. I used to be
33:08
Speaker 9: a labor supporter.
33:10
Speaker 4: Never again.
33:11
Speaker 9: I've seen the change in how they used to treat
33:14
Speaker 9: blue collar workers as their pride and joy. We're nothing now.
33:19
Speaker 9: All we do is go out and pay more tax
33:22
Speaker 9: to try and cover their mistakes in parliament.
33:26
Speaker 2: So beyond crime, beyond the economy, what are the issues
33:30
Speaker 2: weigh on your mind?
33:32
Speaker 5: Well, the future for my white kids.
33:35
Speaker 9: You know, we can't live in this much debt and
33:38
Speaker 9: think we're going to leave them something. At the moment,
33:42
Speaker 9: we're just leaving paupers.
33:44
Speaker 2: What are they sort of the top three or four issues?
33:46
Speaker 2: What are they raising with you that's going to change
33:49
Speaker 2: their vote come November.
33:53
Speaker 13: The debt is number one, which we talk about all
33:56
Speaker 13: the time, but it's just it means so much.
33:57
Speaker 2: Like from a small business owner, like we want to
34:00
Speaker 2: fareh air. So the debts number one, So we need change.
34:03
Speaker 13: There, but we need someone who actually takes action and
34:06
Speaker 13: doesn't talk rubbish all the time.
34:08
Speaker 9: There's more immigrants coming in taking jobs.
34:12
Speaker 4: We've lost.
34:14
Speaker 9: Hell of a lot of apprentices and all that. Like, Hey,
34:17
Speaker 9: you're in Bendigo. We used to have the railway workshops,
34:20
Speaker 9: we'd put out apprentices. The water Commission we used to
34:23
Speaker 9: have apprentices. We had apprentices in all industries. He you're
34:27
Speaker 9: in Bendigate. It's all gone, all finished. We've got to
34:31
Speaker 9: get that back. Keep our kids here, teach them more,
34:35
Speaker 9: learn them more and how to make a living and
34:38
Speaker 9: be happy.
34:39
Speaker 12: Yeah.
34:39
Speaker 16: I think Victoria has enough of the labor government. I
34:44
Speaker 16: mean I have come to them from country where they're
34:47
Speaker 16: then right living governments and has been doing much better
34:51
Speaker 16: than what we are facing here in Victoria.
34:53
Speaker 12: So I think we do need a positive change. Jacinta,
34:57
Speaker 12: I think it's time to resign.
34:59
Speaker 4: You've had a fair crack at it. You weren't elected,
35:02
Speaker 4: so it's time to go. Go while you can. There's
35:06
Speaker 4: no beer at all of givocal labor, hold and vote
35:09
Speaker 4: the luck.
35:10
Speaker 8: How would have b be?
35:11
Speaker 4: Give me a chemick.
35:13
Speaker 2: Sometimes I forget that the premier lives in the country
35:17
Speaker 2: because this is a government that doesn't seem to listen
35:20
Speaker 2: to regional people.
35:22
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think, and I keep going on and on
35:25
Speaker 15: and on about this city centric government and as I
35:27
Speaker 15: keep saying twenty five percent of people live in the regions,
35:29
Speaker 15: we get twelve percent of the investment, and all the
35:34
Speaker 15: blowouts of these major big bills in Melbourne are hurting
35:39
Speaker 15: the regional towns. And this fair share that the Nationals
35:43
Speaker 15: and the Coalition that I have agreed to twenty five
35:47
Speaker 15: percent of the investment will come to the regions because
35:50
Speaker 15: we've got twenty five percent of the population.
35:51
Speaker 2: The Premier was out on the Hustings door knocking recently,
35:55
Speaker 2: which tells me she mustn't do it very often. She
35:58
Speaker 2: must be concerned if she's door knocking.
36:01
Speaker 4: I was a little bit surprised.
36:02
Speaker 15: Look, I guess I think any good politician would be
36:04
Speaker 15: knocking on doors because they want to want some feedback
36:07
Speaker 15: for a start, and I knock on a lot of doors.
36:09
Speaker 15: But I must admit the feedback I get from all
36:13
Speaker 15: the most of the doors I knock on is that
36:15
Speaker 15: people are sick and tired of this government. They understand
36:18
Speaker 15: that they can't manage money and they want change. So
36:22
Speaker 15: you know, I just need to prove to everyone that
36:25
Speaker 15: I'm going to make sure that we get out, we
36:27
Speaker 15: get a fair share for the regions, and I'm the
36:29
Speaker 15: right person for the job.
36:32
Speaker 2: But let's leave the final word to the woman who
36:35
Speaker 2: knows Andrew let Lean best. His mum. Do you think
36:39
Speaker 2: he's crazy wanting to go into politics. I think he'd
36:42
Speaker 2: be excellent, so not because he's my son, but I
36:45
Speaker 2: know who you would be excellent. He's born and bred
36:52
Speaker 2: from Vinigo. It's a real fight up there and I
36:55
Speaker 2: have to say there was a real mood for change
36:57
Speaker 2: on the ground. It is worth noting a comment that
36:59
Speaker 2: someone made their she was not elected and that's true.
37:01
Speaker 2: Remember at the last state election in twenty twenty two,
37:04
Speaker 2: Daniel Andrews won and then he manufactured that change over
37:09
Speaker 2: to justinto Allen. So just like Joan Kerner came in
37:12
Speaker 2: from Cain, faced the electric and lost. Could that be
37:17
Speaker 2: her fate if she lasted long as a lot of
37:19
Speaker 2: chatter around Melbourne, around Spring Street that they are going
37:22
Speaker 2: to dump her as leader before November. I also want
37:25
Speaker 2: to mention for everyone in Bendigo. You can watch this
37:27
Speaker 2: obviously and you probably are on the website. You are
37:31
Speaker 2: still waiting for your Sky News coverage to come back
37:33
Speaker 2: to the region because that transmission tower was knocked out
37:37
Speaker 2: by the Harcourt fires in January. I wonder whether the
37:40
Speaker 2: government's going to fix it. Do they want Sky News
37:42
Speaker 2: going to Bendigo. Well, we'll see, won't we We'll see.
37:45
Speaker 2: Right after the break, we'll get into those crime stats.
37:48
Speaker 2: More car stolen in Melbourne than any other capital city combined.
37:58
Speaker 2: Welcome back, coming up the head of Hall between Donald
38:00
Speaker 2: Trump and Benjamin Nett Yahoo and that lattust update out
38:04
Speaker 2: of the Melbourne courts in relation to one of the
38:06
Speaker 2: alleged isis linked women. But now to the stunning crime
38:11
Speaker 2: stats and Victoria's cementing its status is the car theft
38:14
Speaker 2: capital of the country and suers are paying out more
38:17
Speaker 2: than two hundred and forty three million, or close to
38:20
Speaker 2: twenty eight thousand dollars an hour to cover stolen vehicle claims,
38:24
Speaker 2: more than every other state combined. This is Victoria. It's
38:29
Speaker 2: a sorry story. And johny me now to discuss a
38:32
Speaker 2: form of Victorian homicide. Detective Charlie Berzina, Yeah, we're just talking,
38:37
Speaker 2: tell my honors, we're just talking in the break on
38:39
Speaker 2: every single measure, whether it's violent crime, mashety attacks, home invasions,
38:44
Speaker 2: car thefts, you know, government corruption. Victoria is just just
38:49
Speaker 2: wearing the gold Medal of incompetence.
38:51
Speaker 5: And that's the big and that's the whole situation. It's
38:54
Speaker 5: been ignored for so long by this government, and that's
38:56
Speaker 5: a big issue. And everyone falls back to the police
39:00
Speaker 5: at the building. Corruption. Oh, the police, that's a matter
39:03
Speaker 5: for the police, not I back and on we go,
39:05
Speaker 5: always excuse excuse, and they can always throw the penalties,
39:08
Speaker 5: all these great penalties, but you cannot dictate to a
39:12
Speaker 5: judge what he does or she does in the court
39:14
Speaker 5: and that will never happen.
39:15
Speaker 2: So that's the problem, isn't it right. The police are
39:17
Speaker 2: on the beat. Those police that we've got, we do
39:19
Speaker 2: we need more and we know we need these empty
39:22
Speaker 2: stations open. But it doesn't matter how many they seem
39:25
Speaker 2: to arrest. They front the magistrates, magistrate's call, they front
39:29
Speaker 2: the county court and Supreme Court, and there's just this
39:32
Speaker 2: watering down against clear evidence. Now, even when they're convicted,
39:37
Speaker 2: the sentences aren't matching the crime very much.
39:39
Speaker 5: I was interesting. I saw a I think the insurance
39:43
Speaker 5: guy from Canberra was interviewed this morning on nine and
39:47
Speaker 5: he said exactly that why is Queensland winning the war
39:50
Speaker 5: is because they are inflicting the penalties and consequences. So
39:54
Speaker 5: it's a no brainer.
39:55
Speaker 2: So that's what Victoria must do if it's going to
39:57
Speaker 2: turn one.
39:57
Speaker 5: Hundred percent right across the board with all the aspects
40:00
Speaker 5: of the crime factions that we've now got that we're
40:02
Speaker 5: going to cover off on. It falls back to penalties.
40:06
Speaker 5: Coppers are getting flogged, they're getting them to the court
40:09
Speaker 5: and out they go, and the morale, they're not retaining
40:12
Speaker 5: police officers. So it's an ongoing compounding ribble effect right
40:15
Speaker 5: across the board onto the community. When you say the
40:18
Speaker 5: insurance companies are paying out, well, they're not paying it.
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Speaker 2: We are, yeah, we are, we are, and our premiums
40:23
Speaker 2: are going up to curritory compared to out of the states.
40:26
Speaker 2: Just when you're talking about crime gangs, obviously we've had
40:29
Speaker 2: the tobacco wars in Melbourne and the fire bombings and
40:33
Speaker 2: the associated harm with that. These statistics say that eighty
40:37
Speaker 2: percent of vapes and tobacco and cigarettes are now coming
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Speaker 2: from the illegal market. Only twenty percent of smokers are
40:45
Speaker 2: buying the legal stuff over the counter. Well, that's just
40:49
Speaker 2: fueling a massive financial gain to these gangs. And of course,
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Speaker 2: now the allegation is the moving into nightclubs about alcohol,
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Speaker 2: illegal alcohol and also cocaine and other drugs.
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Speaker 5: Very must say lot prohibition in our situation. We've got there.
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Speaker 5: The black market is flourishing. You said eighty percent. They're
41:11
Speaker 5: buying the elicita tobacco. And again the eye off the
41:15
Speaker 5: ball by this government. They initially said, okay, they didn't
41:18
Speaker 5: have the power to shut these facilities down and prosecute them.
41:22
Speaker 5: They had fourteen inspectors, fourteen inspectors doing a state and
41:26
Speaker 5: all they were doing was Kyle's will worse, these weak targets,
41:30
Speaker 5: not going to the core of it because they had
41:32
Speaker 5: no resources really and again relying on Victoria Polica to it. Well,
41:36
Speaker 5: it's a federal issue. It only comes to state issue
41:38
Speaker 5: because they start burning places down. Becomes a safe problem.
41:42
Speaker 5: But it's a federal issue.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they could fix it just quickly. In New South
41:45
Speaker 2: Wales front page to the papers today, Chris Minz is saying,
41:49
Speaker 2: will allow you to have not specified yet but some
41:53
Speaker 2: level of cannabis in your system and drive a car.
41:55
Speaker 2: What do you think about this?
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Speaker 5: Well, again, it's a balance because the end of the day,
41:59
Speaker 5: it's a health issue to a degree, but it's also
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Speaker 5: a safety issue. For you and I driving home one
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Speaker 5: evening or wherever we may be, our family and they
42:06
Speaker 5: are drug affected, and then you look at the further
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Speaker 5: compounding issue you've got here in Victoria, they test for everything,
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Speaker 5: but they don't test for cocaine.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, why is that, Charlie?
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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's because it's more professional drug and
42:18
Speaker 5: that's where professionals are. They can test for drugs. And
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Speaker 5: I've been on work sites where they test for cocaine
42:23
Speaker 5: on work sites. How the hell they can't test for
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Speaker 5: drugs at a PBT.
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Speaker 2: Maybe there's some big unions or corrupt entities that are
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Speaker 2: running around the cocaine market and they're two scared to
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Speaker 2: take them on.
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Speaker 5: And high professionals exactly who That's where the cocaine market is.
42:36
Speaker 5: It's not down here at guttter level. It's in the
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Speaker 5: professional level. And are they being protected?
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Speaker 2: All right? Well, they've got to test for impairment if
42:43
Speaker 2: nothing else to thank you?
42:45
Speaker 4: All right?
42:46
Speaker 2: Just before they break design of Ahmed, one of the
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Speaker 2: Icistlague women who was charged by police, has been alleged
42:52
Speaker 2: to have helped her father keep a sex sex slave
42:56
Speaker 2: who was repeatedly raped inside their home in Syria. These
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Speaker 2: claims are very serious. They were made today in court
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Speaker 2: in the Melbourne Magistrate's Court with police allegend slave was
43:06
Speaker 2: taken to the armored household and that she was purchased
43:10
Speaker 2: for just ten thousand dollars. While it's not claimed that
43:14
Speaker 2: Zanab Hmad assaulted the woman, it is alleged that she
43:19
Speaker 2: ordered her to perform domestic duties and participated in ute
43:22
Speaker 2: the deprivation of her human rights. I'll continue to bring
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Speaker 2: you more updates on that case and the others before
43:29
Speaker 2: the courts. All right, after the break, we'll look into
43:31
Speaker 2: again the death of tragic death of British student Henry Novak.
43:34
Speaker 2: Are we getting a race reckoning in the UK? Nigel
43:38
Speaker 2: Faraj is taking on the BBC, that's for sure. My
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Speaker 2: International panel coming up. All right, let's get into it
43:47
Speaker 2: now with my panel. It's the International Panel. It's Thursday,
43:50
Speaker 2: of course, Sky Sky used contributor Kosher Ghada and the
43:54
Speaker 2: wonderful Michael Danby who's with us an a labor man.
43:57
Speaker 2: We've just been talking the break about Aucust. We'll get
43:58
Speaker 2: to that in a moment. Let's just talk, if we can,
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Speaker 2: both of you, about what's happened in the United Kingdom
44:03
Speaker 2: and this race reckoning. Michael, you know, you look at
44:09
Speaker 2: that Ukrainian girl stabbed on the train in the United Kingdom,
44:12
Speaker 2: in the United States, you look at this.
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Speaker 4: You look at all the.
44:16
Speaker 2: Politicians taking the knee for George Floyd. This is a
44:20
Speaker 2: power keep in Britain at the moment.
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Speaker 17: Kirs Starmer has handled this so badly. He should have
44:26
Speaker 17: got out front said it was a dastardly thing. And
44:29
Speaker 17: he's going to re educate the police. No wonder, the
44:32
Speaker 17: white working class in the UK are in revolt and
44:35
Speaker 17: you're going to vote for Farage reform or even that
44:38
Speaker 17: other one restore or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Let's have a look at some comments from Niger Farrage.
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Speaker 18: It is now clear to growing millions in this country
44:48
Speaker 18: that we're living under two The instructions that are given
44:55
Speaker 18: two police officers from police bosses are clear written down
45:01
Speaker 18: in ink. It says you must treat different ethnic groups
45:06
Speaker 18: in different ways.
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Speaker 2: And what's a disappointing I think is that I've watched
45:12
Speaker 2: a lot of footage from the BBC is they were
45:14
Speaker 2: verbaling that initial response that he gave. Most of the
45:18
Speaker 2: commercial networks didn't carry a kloshure. It had to go
45:20
Speaker 2: out online, watched widely as you'd expect it would be.
45:24
Speaker 2: I mean, they're not going to be able to shut
45:25
Speaker 2: down the farage machine now, but pretending he said things
45:29
Speaker 2: he didn't say that he was, you know, fueling white
45:31
Speaker 2: race rights and things like that. But as I said,
45:34
Speaker 2: it's a powder caick.
45:35
Speaker 19: It is a part of Okay, thank goodness for the
45:39
Speaker 19: machine and social media now that they can't play that
45:41
Speaker 19: game and these things are out there and they get
45:42
Speaker 19: outed and issuing a retraction is rare. He used the
45:47
Speaker 19: words called region. They were trying to say, it's weight region.
45:50
Speaker 19: That's what they apologize. Because the victim in this case
45:52
Speaker 19: is inconvenient to the narrative, as was Arenasritzkoh you mentioned
45:56
Speaker 19: on the train in the US and others, So it
45:58
Speaker 19: doesn't fit in the narrative. So they're making up a narrative.
46:01
Speaker 19: But the problem is very, very deep because it's on
46:03
Speaker 19: multiple layers. It's the policing why was it first aid administered?
46:06
Speaker 19: You know that hopefully will be investigated regardless of what
46:08
Speaker 19: the situation is. It's policing policy. If they have time
46:10
Speaker 19: to troll social media posts of people and jail them
46:13
Speaker 19: and not do it in.
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Speaker 17: The legacy media because jel On Musk raised it from
46:18
Speaker 17: America on Twitter.
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Speaker 19: Right, it's immigration and immigration policy as well, and sort
46:23
Speaker 19: of a tier justice system that seek people just as
46:26
Speaker 19: an example, because that's a perpetrator here. They have a
46:28
Speaker 19: religious exemption to carry knives, while lawb adding citizens don't
46:32
Speaker 19: have that exempt.
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Speaker 2: And it wasn't the little ceremony you'll seek knife. It
46:35
Speaker 2: was a much bigger knife that the family were involved
46:37
Speaker 2: in hiding evidence and things like that. So it's broad
46:41
Speaker 2: a cultural issue, isn't it.
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Speaker 19: Yeah, and just multi layered. And once the trust is
46:44
Speaker 19: eroded on all those dimensions that we've talked about, it's
46:47
Speaker 19: very hard to build it back up.
46:48
Speaker 2: So there's a product key I'm going to be written
46:50
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks time, and I'll take the
46:52
Speaker 2: temperature there and obviously I'll be doing the show and
46:53
Speaker 2: reporting back to people here in Australia. This fiery call,
46:59
Speaker 2: frosty call, angrycall, it's been called all of these things
47:02
Speaker 2: today between President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu. Michael, give
47:06
Speaker 2: me your take on this.
47:07
Speaker 17: Well, General Jack Keane's been on Fox Day and Night
47:11
Speaker 17: this last two days explaining to the American public that
47:14
Speaker 17: Hezbollah has fired two and a half thousand missiles into
47:17
Speaker 17: northern Israel. They're killing civilians, doctors, social workers, etc. I mean,
47:22
Speaker 17: the Israelis have their own problems and need to defend
47:25
Speaker 17: their people. Is All schools are canceled in northern Israel.
47:29
Speaker 17: So there's a really big problem between Trump and Nettanyale.
47:33
Speaker 17: But the Israels have legitimate issues. Can I use this occasion,
47:38
Speaker 17: Peter to say, I've just seen that our Foreign Minister
47:41
Speaker 17: Penny Wong has said to send it estimates that she
47:46
Speaker 17: agrees that some of the Australian flotilla people were raped
47:50
Speaker 17: by Israeli soldiers. I think that's a disgraceful and insightful claim.
47:55
Speaker 17: She wonders why there are bigotry and even terrorism in Australia.
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Speaker 17: If she hasn't got evidence for that, she should withdraw
48:02
Speaker 17: and apologize.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
48:04
Speaker 17: Wow, terrible.
48:07
Speaker 2: We were talking a little while back about these elections
48:09
Speaker 2: in the United States and the bayalty races. You've got
48:11
Speaker 2: an update.
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Speaker 19: So voting happened thirty six hours ago on Tuesday. But
48:15
Speaker 19: it is the People's Republic of California, so they're saying
48:18
Speaker 19: it's going to take weeks and weeks for the results
48:19
Speaker 19: to come out. What we know as of today is
48:21
Speaker 19: so they have an open primary system where the top two,
48:23
Speaker 19: regardless of party, advancing to runoff. And Spencer Pratt, who
48:27
Speaker 19: we've been covering common Spence has actually pulled it out
48:30
Speaker 19: and he's number two. However, with each vote dump that's coming,
48:33
Speaker 19: the person in third place who's this radical far leftist,
48:37
Speaker 19: is gaining ground and a lot of people are crying
48:39
Speaker 19: foul and upset about the way elections are run. Quick
48:41
Speaker 19: note also is the governor same thing Republican is in
48:45
Speaker 19: the lead number one and Steve Hilton, and that would
48:47
Speaker 19: be the first time in twenty years since Arnold Tword
48:49
Speaker 19: Senegger if he wins, But we have a lot of
48:51
Speaker 19: winter chop before that happens.
48:53
Speaker 2: Augus, you know this dismount feels like a dismount. Is
48:57
Speaker 2: it a dismount?
48:58
Speaker 17: If Elbow wobbles, it's in real problem because otherwise, if
49:03
Speaker 17: he sticks with the existing plan, even with the three
49:06
Speaker 17: used submarines, the socialist will rally around the black banner
49:10
Speaker 17: to defend him as an institution rather than the issue.
49:14
Speaker 17: But Richard Miles and what you described in the newspaper
49:19
Speaker 17: in your excellent column as the remnant of the labor
49:22
Speaker 17: right couldn't blow up a paper bag at the moment.
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Speaker 17: So it all depends on which way elbow does he
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Speaker 17: fold from this husic Garrett, push or not.
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Speaker 2: We'll see a national conference and end of July we'll
49:36
Speaker 2: see what happens there. Thank you to you both. Have
49:37
Speaker 2: a lovely weekend. You too, have a lovely long weekend.
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Speaker 2: Not long weekend for me. You'll send me Monday night
49:42
Speaker 2: look forward.
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Speaker 4: Do you count me?
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Speaker 2: Then it's Andrew