Latest / The Mark Simone Show / Ken interviews former college volleyball player Brooke Slusser.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is the Mark Simone Show on seven to ten.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Wi Ken from Mark Today, Here's Ken Rosatto and nice
- 0:08Speaker 2: to begin with you on a Thursday, a Friday eve,
- 0:11Speaker 2: we like to call it.
- 0:11Speaker 1: With this great long holiday weekend upon us.
- 0:14Speaker 2: You know, ten years ago the concept of biological males
- 0:17Speaker 2: and female sports wouldn't have been taken seriously by just
- 0:20Speaker 2: about anybody.
- 0:21Speaker 1: But the far left in America.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Loves to push and push and push until the rest
- 0:27Speaker 2: of society finally pushes back and says, knock it off.
- 0:30Speaker 1: And then they look at the mainstream society's whoa, whoa,
- 0:33Speaker 1: what would he mean?
- 0:34Speaker 2: Well, a number of states started pushing back, stopping biological
- 0:37Speaker 2: males from competing on female teams, and they got sued.
- 0:41Speaker 2: But the Supreme Court this week finally decided that states
- 0:45Speaker 2: have the right to say no to trans athletes wanting
- 0:48Speaker 2: to compete on teams opposite the gender that they were
- 0:51Speaker 2: assigned at birth. Former San Jose State volleyball player Brooks
- 0:55Speaker 2: Slusser is now with the Independent Council on Women's Sports
- 0:59Speaker 2: and is applauding the High Court's decision. We say good
- 1:01Speaker 2: morning to you, Brook, Good morning, how are you wonderful?
- 1:05Speaker 2: Thank you and very happy as I'm sure you are
- 1:07Speaker 2: about the Supreme Court's decision, at least one decision that
- 1:10Speaker 2: it seems like they got right here.
- 1:13Speaker 1: So the Supreme Court.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Looked at two cases in this case that they put together,
- 1:16Speaker 2: it was West Virginia versus BPJ and Little versus he Cocks.
- 1:20Speaker 2: And in Little versus he Cocks, specifically, the state of
- 1:22Speaker 2: Idaho passed the Fairness in Women's Sports Act way back
- 1:26Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, prohibiting trans women and girls aka biological males,
- 1:30Speaker 2: from competing on female teams. A biological male identifying as
- 1:34Speaker 2: a female and going by the name Lindsay Heacocks wanted
- 1:37Speaker 2: to try out for Boise State University's track and cross
- 1:40Speaker 2: country teams but was told no. And that's how this
- 1:42Speaker 2: all started, right, And this decision was not that it's
- 1:47Speaker 2: not that certain states can't still have biological males on
- 1:52Speaker 2: women's sports.
- 1:52Speaker 1: It's just that it's up to the state to decide.
- 1:55Speaker 3: Correct exactly, yes, So why.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Is anybody pro testing that that's the one thing we
- 2:04Speaker 2: still need to work on.
- 2:05Speaker 3: This is a big win and it is exciting, like
- 2:07Speaker 3: you said, but we still have I want to say,
- 2:11Speaker 3: it's twenty three states that are choosing to allow it
- 2:14Speaker 3: to still happen having men on women's sports teams. So
- 2:18Speaker 3: this is a big win and it is very exciting.
- 2:20Speaker 3: But like you said, states can still pick for themselves,
- 2:24Speaker 3: so we still have a lot more work to you
- 2:26Speaker 3: to make sure that the states that are still allowing
- 2:29Speaker 3: it change their minds on that topic.
- 2:31Speaker 2: So here's here's a question, Brook, How does the father
- 2:35Speaker 2: of any daughter who's attending a college as an athlete?
- 2:39Speaker 2: How does that father here? Yes, it sounds sexist. I'm
- 2:42Speaker 2: speaking up with the dads here. How does any father
- 2:44Speaker 2: say it's okay that my daughter is going to be
- 2:48Speaker 2: slammed in the head at ninety miles an hour by
- 2:50Speaker 2: a volleyball thrust upon her by a guy who identifies
- 2:54Speaker 2: today as a woman. How does any fathership back and go,
- 2:57Speaker 2: oh whatever, I don't get it.
- 2:59Speaker 3: I I don't get it either. I mean my dad,
- 3:03Speaker 3: just from my situation, he was absolutely livid, like right
- 3:08Speaker 3: as he found out everything that was going on. He
- 3:10Speaker 3: was driving or flying up to be with me the
- 3:14Speaker 3: whole time, and he was absolutely pissed at my coaching staff,
- 3:20Speaker 3: my compliance that hid it from me and my team.
- 3:23Speaker 3: So personally, I just don't understand again how a dad
- 3:27Speaker 3: could be okay with it. I had a dad that
- 3:30Speaker 3: definitely was not, so he did everything in his power
- 3:34Speaker 3: to be there for me when I was having to
- 3:36Speaker 3: go through that hard time.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Well, you know, I laugh at the fact that in
- 3:41Speaker 2: every case of trans athletes and the whole issue being brought.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Up, we don't have a case. We don't have a
- 3:47Speaker 1: case of.
- 3:48Speaker 2: A woman who is a trans male fighting to compete
- 3:52Speaker 2: on a man's team. Do you notice that it's always
- 3:56Speaker 2: men fighting to be a woman identifying as a woman,
- 4:00Speaker 2: and so they have the physiological attributes of a man
- 4:03Speaker 2: and could be superior in strength and speed and response
- 4:07Speaker 2: on a sports team.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Why is that think? Is it me? Or am I
- 4:10Speaker 1: the only weirdo that has noticed that?
- 4:14Speaker 3: No, believe me, I have talked about this a lot,
- 4:18Speaker 3: and I think it's pretty obvious. The reasoning is because
- 4:21Speaker 3: any women or girl that tries to say or become
- 4:25Speaker 3: a man quote unquote knows that they would get trampled
- 4:30Speaker 3: and humiliated trying to play on any men's team. So
- 4:33Speaker 3: they still play on their women's sports teams like they should.
- 4:37Speaker 3: But these men that are coming in trying to call
- 4:39Speaker 3: themselves girls or women are dominating every field of athletics
- 4:44Speaker 3: that they join because they are scientifically biologically better superior,
- 4:50Speaker 3: as it should be. I mean, we all know this.
- 4:52Speaker 3: These are scientific basic facts.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Right, And even if if they are caught pre puberty
- 4:59Speaker 2: and given puberty blockers, males are born endemically. They are
- 5:04Speaker 2: born any doctor will tell you already with a larger frame,
- 5:08Speaker 2: larger deltoids, larger shoulders, even before the massive amounts of
- 5:12Speaker 2: testosterone come in at puberty, so that physiologically they're already different.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Their cells already respond differently, the twitch cells and whatnot.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Any scientist worth their salt who is honest will tell
- 5:26Speaker 2: you that. So it's not just like, well, this little
- 5:28Speaker 2: boy was given puberty blockers, which, by the way, should
- 5:30Speaker 2: be criminal to be given puberty blockers, because, by the way,
- 5:34Speaker 2: I had an uncle. Puberty blockers, for those who don't know,
- 5:37Speaker 2: stop the testes from producing large amounts of testosterone in
- 5:41Speaker 2: the case of the male, puberty blockers, and that's what
- 5:44Speaker 2: they give men who have prosta cancer because testosterone feeds
- 5:48Speaker 2: cancer tumors and prostate cancer, and so they used to
- 5:52Speaker 2: the cure for prostaate cancer. If you will aw the
- 5:54Speaker 2: treatment at the cure. The treatment used to be to
- 5:56Speaker 2: remove a man's testicles, and now they use something that
- 5:59Speaker 2: was a pre prona I forget what it's called, something
- 6:01Speaker 2: known the name of the drug, and they give you
- 6:04Speaker 2: this drug that basically puts the testes to sleep so
- 6:08Speaker 2: they don't produce testosterone, and so that's a puberty blocker,
- 6:11Speaker 2: but it can permanently disable or damage the testes. So
- 6:15Speaker 2: if the child at fourteen changes his mind and decides
- 6:19Speaker 2: I do want to be a man, at that point,
- 6:20Speaker 2: it might be too late. This is why it is
- 6:22Speaker 2: so crazy. But that's another argument for another day. I'm
- 6:25Speaker 2: sorry Brooke to go off on that tangent. But now
- 6:28Speaker 2: the problem is, as we just addressed in the beginning,
- 6:31Speaker 2: if forty percent of the states still do permit biological
- 6:35Speaker 2: males and women's sports, how will you compete interstate? Will
- 6:38Speaker 2: you just have to have one league that is just
- 6:41Speaker 2: all female and another league that is mixed female and
- 6:44Speaker 2: biological male.
- 6:47Speaker 3: I mean, the MTAA was made on the fact that
- 6:51Speaker 3: there is separate men's and women's sports, and it's been
- 6:54Speaker 3: like that for ages. Obviously this is a known thing.
- 6:57Speaker 3: I don't think we need to change that. I think
- 7:00Speaker 3: you just you have to play in your biological sex sport,
- 7:04Speaker 3: and that's how it should be. That's how it's always been,
- 7:06Speaker 3: that's the fair way to play, like you just said,
- 7:10Speaker 3: with younger kids trying to be transgenders or whatever they
- 7:15Speaker 3: call them. I coach the thirteen's girls team, and there
- 7:18Speaker 3: was a boy calling himself a girl that we had
- 7:21Speaker 3: to play against, and he whooped their butt. So this
- 7:24Speaker 3: is at every level that it's an issue. It's not
- 7:27Speaker 3: just college athletics that once these men are getting to
- 7:30Speaker 3: that age of more development and everything, that there's still
- 7:34Speaker 3: so much more superior at every age that they try
- 7:37Speaker 3: and call themselves girls or women. It's a big issue,
- 7:41Speaker 3: not even just on the court, but off the court,
- 7:43Speaker 3: in the girls' locker rooms, the girl's bathrooms, and so
- 7:47Speaker 3: there's issues and problems with this situation and every aspect
- 7:51Speaker 3: of it when you look at it from outside and
- 7:53Speaker 3: then when you're in it on the inside. It's the
- 7:56Speaker 3: most traumatizing experience, at least for me and for everyone
- 7:58Speaker 3: else that I know has gone through it in my life.
- 8:02Speaker 3: You can't take that time back. You only get so
- 8:04Speaker 3: much time playing the sport you love. So there's so
- 8:08Speaker 3: many problems with it, and the issues are the people
- 8:10Speaker 3: that are allowing it to happen. So that's why I
- 8:13Speaker 3: say this win is big, but we still need to
- 8:17Speaker 3: hold accountable to people that have allowed this to happen
- 8:20Speaker 3: in the first place, the individuals that caused these issues
- 8:23Speaker 3: to happen period.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Any plan on suing the states that are still allowing
- 8:28Speaker 2: this to happen based on the Supreme Court decision.
- 8:32Speaker 3: Not as of now. I still have my lawsuits that
- 8:35Speaker 3: are going on with a bunch of other young women
- 8:37Speaker 3: athletes and icons with the Title nine issues at hand
- 8:42Speaker 3: that they cross the line protecting these my member women's
- 8:45Speaker 3: Title nine rules. So we're working on that right now,
- 8:48Speaker 3: which hopefully would make a difference for every state.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Now, this is so unfair to women, young girls who
- 8:54Speaker 2: have trained since grammar school in different sports and then
- 8:58Speaker 2: literally had everything so from them because of a bunch
- 9:01Speaker 2: of quote unquote do good little white liberals who think
- 9:05Speaker 2: that they know best. They tell everybody.
- 9:07Speaker 1: I love.
- 9:07Speaker 2: I've seen memes online of like white liberal women telling
- 9:10Speaker 2: African American men how they should be voting, and it's
- 9:13Speaker 2: like shut up, just shut up and stop with your
- 9:16Speaker 2: phony empathy. It's like be quiet, sit down, stay in
- 9:19Speaker 2: your lane. Brooks Lusser with the Independent Council on Women's Sports. Thanks,
- 9:24Speaker 2: thank you for fighting the good fight. Thank you for
- 9:26Speaker 2: coming on this morning, and please stay safe with those athletes.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Of course, thank you so much for having me.
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