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MC Fireside Chats - August 3rd, 2022 · MC Fireside Chats, an Outdoor Hospitality Podcast

• 0:51
  Welcome
• 0:51
  everybody
• 0:52
  to
• 0:52
  another
• 0:52
  episode
• 0:52
  of
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  MC
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  Fireside
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  Chats.
• 0:53
  My
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  name's
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  Brian
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  Searl
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  with
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  Insider
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  Perks
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  here
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  as
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  always
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  with
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  Cara
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  Csizmadia
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  from
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  the
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  Canadian
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  Camping
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  and
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  RV
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  council.
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  We're
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  super
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  excited
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  to
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  present
• 1:00
  our
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  open
• 1:00
  discussion
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  show
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  happens
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  the
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  first
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  week
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  of
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  every
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  month.
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  We're
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  excited
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  to
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  welcome
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  back
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  Mr.
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  Randy
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  Hendrickson,
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  Mark
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  Koep,
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  Sandy
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  Ellingson,
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  and
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  Ruben
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  Martinez,
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  who
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  has
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  been
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  missing
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  for
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  a
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  few
• 1:10
  months,
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  but
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  that's
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  apparently
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  my
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  fault
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  because
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  he's
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  got
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  seven
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  email
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  addresses
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  and
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  I
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  was
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  always
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  sending
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  it
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  to
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  the
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  wrong
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  one.
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  So
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  super
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  excited
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  to
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  have
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  Ruben
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  back.
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  And
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  Mr.
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  Casey
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  Cochran,
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  I
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  believe
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  is
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  gonna
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  be
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  joining
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  us
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  here
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  later
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  in
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  the
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  show.
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  He's
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  just
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  tied
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  up
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  for
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  the
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  first
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  half
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  of
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  it,
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  and
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  we've
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  got
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  a
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  really
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  cool
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  announcement
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  that
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  we're
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  not
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  gonna
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  make
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  yet,
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  but
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  that
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  might
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  happen
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  next
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  week
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  with
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  Ruben.
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  So
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  stay
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  tuned
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  for
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  that.
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  We
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  might
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  have
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  something
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  interesting
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  to
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  share
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  with
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  you
• 1:30
  next
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  week
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  on
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  the
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  show.
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  But
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  beyond
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  that,
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  let's
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  let's
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  start
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  off
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  today
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  as
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  we
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  usually
• 1:34
  do
• 1:34
  with
• 1:34
  our
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  open
• 1:35
  discussion
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  normally
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  I
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  would
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  toss
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  it
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  to
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  all
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  of
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  you
• 1:37
  guys,
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  but
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  I
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  wanna
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  take
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  the
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  lead
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  here
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  and
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  just
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  prompt
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  a
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  conversation.
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  That
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  is
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  dangerous,
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  but
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  I'm
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  gonna
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  wait
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  into
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  the
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  waters
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  here
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  first
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  and
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  say
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  that
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  and
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  let's
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  briefly
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  talk
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  about
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  consistency.
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  And
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  so
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  there,
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  and
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  this
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  is
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  just
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  my
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  opinion
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  to
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  be
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  clear.
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  But
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  consistency,
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  when
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  it
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  comes
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  to
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  Campground,
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  the
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  use
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  the
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  experience
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  that
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  people
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  have,
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  their
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  expectations
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  when
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  they
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  come
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  to
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  a
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  park
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  like
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  this
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  is
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  in
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  my
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  mind,
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  really
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  important
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  for
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  a
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  Koa
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  or
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  a
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  franchise
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  or
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  a
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  Yogi
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  bear
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  park.
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  When
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  you
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  are
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  a
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  loyal
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  Koa
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  camper,
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  you
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  come
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  and
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  you
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  expect,
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  the
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  branding
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  of
• 2:04
  the
• 2:05
  holidays
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  or
• 2:05
  the
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  journeys
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  or
• 2:06
  the
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  resorts,
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  you
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  expect
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  that
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  there
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  be
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  certain
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  amenities
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  and
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  that
• 2:09
  the
• 2:10
  sites
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  will
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  be
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  designed
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  a
• 2:11
  certain
• 2:11
  way.
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  And
• 2:11
  the,
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  the
• 2:12
  level
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  of
• 2:12
  customer
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  service
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  and
• 2:13
  quality
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  will
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  be
• 2:14
  there,
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  but
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  I
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  don't
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  feel
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  like
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  that
• 2:16
  approach
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  is
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  a
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  blanket
• 2:18
  statement
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  for
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  the
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  entire
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  industry.
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  I
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  think
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  that
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  as
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  we've
• 2:21
  discussed
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  on
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  this
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  show
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  many
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  times
• 2:22
  before,
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  there
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  are
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  a
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  lot
• 2:23
  of
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  different
• 2:23
  operators.
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  There
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  are
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  a
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  lot
• 2:24
  of
• 2:24
  different
• 2:25
  consumers.
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  There
• 2:25
  are
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  a
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  lot
• 2:25
  of
• 2:25
  people
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  coming
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  in
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  from
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  hotels
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  into
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  glamping,
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  as
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  Ruben
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  can
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  certainly
• 2:28
  talk
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  about.
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  And
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  these
• 2:30
  customers
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  have
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  different
• 2:31
  expectations
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  and
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  they
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  don't
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  always
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  want
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  some
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  of
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  them
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  do,
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  but
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  they
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  don't
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  always.
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  The
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  same
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  type
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  of
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  experience.
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  And
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  so
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  yesterday
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  was
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  it
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  mark?
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  It
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  was
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  announced
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  that
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  RV
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  national
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  Arabic
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  the
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  national
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  association
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  is
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  coming
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  out
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  with
• 2:45
  this
• 2:45
  task
• 2:45
  force
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  that
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  has
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  a
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  lot
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  of
• 2:47
  intelligent,
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  amazing,
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  super
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  smart
• 2:49
  people
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  on
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  it
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  that
• 2:50
  have
• 2:50
  been
• 2:50
  in
• 2:50
  the
• 2:50
  industry
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  for
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  a
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  long
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  time,
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  lot
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  of
• 2:52
  respect
• 2:52
  for
• 2:52
  the
• 2:52
  people
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  on
• 2:53
  there,
• 2:53
  but
• 2:53
  I'm
• 2:54
  not
• 2:54
  so
• 2:54
  sure
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  that
• 2:54
  this
• 2:55
  is
• 2:55
  the
• 2:55
  right
• 2:55
  direction
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  for
• 2:56
  the
• 2:56
  industry
• 2:57
  from
• 2:57
  a
• 2:57
  small
• 2:58
  operator.
• 2:58
  And
• 2:59
  we've
• 2:59
  seen
• 2:59
  that
• 2:59
  a
• 2:59
  little
• 2:59
  bit
• 2:59
  in
• 2:59
  your
• 3:00
  group
• 3:00
  mark
• 3:01
  with
• 3:01
  some
• 3:01
  comments
• 3:01
  on
• 3:02
  a
• 3:02
  post
• 3:02
  that
• 3:02
  you
• 3:02
  made.
• 3:02
  I'm
• 3:03
  not
• 3:03
  so
• 3:03
  sure
• 3:03
  that
• 3:03
  we
• 3:03
  need
• 3:04
  a
• 3:04
  set
• 3:04
  of
• 3:04
  standards.
• 3:05
  That
• 3:05
  should
• 3:05
  be
• 3:06
  exactly
• 3:07
  the
• 3:07
  same
• 3:07
  for
• 3:07
  everybody
• 3:08
  in
• 3:08
  the
• 3:08
  industry.
• 3:09
  I
• 3:09
  think
• 3:09
  there's
• 3:09
  a
• 3:09
  lot
• 3:10
  of
• 3:10
  room
• 3:10
  to
• 3:10
  innovate
• 3:10
  in
• 3:11
  a
• 3:11
  lot
• 3:11
  of
• 3:11
  room
• 3:11
  to
• 3:11
  change
• 3:12
  and
• 3:12
  a
• 3:12
  lot
• 3:12
  of
• 3:12
  room
• 3:13
  to
• 3:13
  do
• 3:13
  different
• 3:13
  things,
• 3:14
  different
• 3:14
  ways.
• 3:15
  And
• 3:16
  I
• 3:16
  think
• 3:16
  maybe
• 3:16
  there's
• 3:16
  a
• 3:17
  place
• 3:17
  for
• 3:17
  a
• 3:17
  minimum
• 3:18
  quality
• 3:18
  standard,
• 3:19
  but
• 3:19
  I
• 3:19
  don't
• 3:19
  know
• 3:19
  if
• 3:20
  there's
• 3:20
  a
• 3:20
  place
• 3:20
  for
• 3:20
  a
• 3:20
  standard
• 3:21
  across
• 3:21
  everything.
• 3:21
  So
• 3:21
  I
• 3:22
  just
• 3:22
  wanted
• 3:22
  to
• 3:22
  open
• 3:22
  up,
• 3:22
  throw
• 3:23
  myself
• 3:23
  under
• 3:23
  the
• 3:23
  bus
• 3:23
  there
• 3:24
  into
• 3:24
  that
• 3:24
  kind
• 3:24
  of
• 3:25
  feisty
• 3:25
  little
• 3:25
  discussion.
• 3:27
  Take
• 3:27
  it
• 3:27
  away.
• 3:27
  If
• 3:27
  anybody
• 3:27
  wants
• 3:28
  to
• 3:28
  pick
• 3:28
  it
• 3:28
  up,
• 3:28
  I'm
• 3:28
  sure
• 3:28
  Mr.
• 3:29
  Hendrickson
• 3:29
  might
• 3:29
  be,
• 3:29
  has
• 3:29
  some
• 3:30
  thoughts
• 3:30
  or
• 3:30
  mark,
• 3:30
  do
• 3:30
  you
• 3:30
  wanna
• 3:31
  start
• 3:31
  just
• 3:31
  why
• 3:31
  you
• 3:31
  yeah,
• 3:31
  I'll
• 3:32
  jump
• 3:32
  in.
• 3:32
  Ben
• 3:32
  from
• 3:32
  Woodall
• 3:33
  Campground
• 3:33
  management,
• 3:33
  he
• 3:34
  posted
• 3:34
  that
• 3:34
  story
• 3:35
  and
• 3:35
  I
• 3:35
  picked
• 3:35
  it
• 3:35
  up
• 3:35
  and
• 3:35
  posted
• 3:36
  on
• 3:36
  the
• 3:36
  Facebook
• 3:36
  group
• 3:36
  and
• 3:36
  what
• 3:37
  stuck
• 3:37
  out
• 3:37
  to
• 3:37
  me
• 3:38
  it's
• 3:38
  if
• 3:38
  they're
• 3:38
  gonna
• 3:39
  do
• 3:39
  standards,
• 3:39
  whatever,
• 3:39
  that's
• 3:40
  a
• 3:40
  conversation.
• 3:40
  And
• 3:40
  as
• 3:41
  you
• 3:41
  mentioned,
• 3:41
  the
• 3:41
  people
• 3:41
  that
• 3:42
  are
• 3:42
  on
• 3:42
  that
• 3:42
  board
• 3:42
  are
• 3:42
  some
• 3:43
  amazing
• 3:43
  folks.
• 3:43
  We
• 3:43
  know
• 3:43
  many
• 3:44
  of
• 3:44
  'em,
• 3:44
  but
• 3:44
  what
• 3:44
  caught
• 3:44
  my
• 3:44
  eye
• 3:44
  is
• 3:45
  the
• 3:45
  release
• 3:45
  claim
• 3:45
  that
• 3:46
  they
• 3:46
  represented,
• 3:46
  they
• 3:47
  being
• 3:47
  R
• 3:47
  C
• 3:48
  represented
• 3:48
  13,000
• 3:50
  park
• 3:50
  owners
• 3:50
  in
• 3:50
  the
• 3:50
  United
• 3:51
  States.
• 3:51
  And
• 3:51
  that's
• 3:52
  just
• 3:52
  factually
• 3:53
  untrue.
• 3:53
  It's
• 3:53
  factually
• 3:54
  untrue.
• 3:55
  There
• 3:55
  are
• 3:55
  a
• 3:55
  large
• 3:56
  number
• 3:56
  of
• 3:56
  very
• 3:57
  large
• 3:57
  states
• 3:57
  who
• 3:58
  have
• 3:58
  said
• 3:58
  RBC,
• 3:59
  Hey,
• 3:59
  we
• 3:59
  like
• 3:59
  what
• 4:00
  you're.
• 4:00
  We're
• 4:00
  not
• 4:00
  gonna
• 4:01
  be
• 4:01
  a
• 4:01
  part
• 4:01
  of
• 4:01
  it.
• 4:01
  And
• 4:01
  there's
• 4:02
  a
• 4:02
  large
• 4:02
  number
• 4:02
  of
• 4:02
  park
• 4:03
  within
• 4:03
  those
• 4:03
  states
• 4:04
  who
• 4:04
  are
• 4:04
  no
• 4:04
  longer
• 4:05
  members
• 4:05
  of
• 4:06
  AR
• 4:06
  VC
• 4:07
  for
• 4:07
  various
• 4:07
  reasons,
• 4:08
  whatever
• 4:08
  those
• 4:08
  reasons
• 4:09
  are.
• 4:09
  So
• 4:09
  where
• 4:10
  my
• 4:10
  first
• 4:11
  issue
• 4:11
  comes
• 4:11
  in
• 4:12
  is
• 4:12
  that
• 4:12
  we
• 4:13
  need
• 4:13
  a
• 4:13
  strong
• 4:14
  national
• 4:15
  association
• 4:16
  of
• 4:16
  Campground
• 4:17
  and
• 4:17
  RV
• 4:17
  parks
• 4:17
  in
• 4:17
  the
• 4:17
  United
• 4:18
  States
• 4:18
  to
• 4:18
  represent
• 4:19
  the
• 4:19
  interests
• 4:19
  of
• 4:20
  the
• 4:20
  owners
• 4:21
  and
• 4:21
  the
• 4:21
  industry
• 4:22
  at
• 4:22
  that
• 4:22
  level.
• 4:23
  We
• 4:23
  currently,
• 4:24
  this
• 4:24
  is
• 4:24
  gonna
• 4:24
  raise
• 4:24
  some
• 4:24
  rough
• 4:25
  ruffle,
• 4:25
  some
• 4:25
  feathers
• 4:26
  here.
• 4:26
  We
• 4:26
  currently
• 4:27
  do
• 4:27
  not
• 4:27
  have
• 4:29
  a
• 4:29
  strong
• 4:29
  national
• 4:30
  association
• 4:31
  for
• 4:31
  obvious
• 4:31
  reasons.
• 4:32
  The
• 4:32
  big
• 4:32
  states
• 4:32
  are
• 4:32
  not
• 4:32
  members
• 4:33
  of
• 4:33
  it.
• 4:33
  Therefore
• 4:33
  it's
• 4:33
  no
• 4:34
  longer
• 4:34
  a
• 4:34
  national
• 4:35
  association.
• 4:35
  And
• 4:36
  so
• 4:36
  where
• 4:36
  I
• 4:37
  that's
• 4:37
  where
• 4:37
  I
• 4:37
  said,
• 4:38
  wait
• 4:38
  a
• 4:38
  second.
• 4:38
  This
• 4:38
  release
• 4:39
  is
• 4:39
  incorrect.
• 4:39
  Now
• 4:40
  it
• 4:40
  could
• 4:40
  just
• 4:40
  be
• 4:40
  a
• 4:40
  misquote
• 4:41
  and
• 4:41
  maybe
• 4:41
  they
• 4:41
  misstated.
• 4:42
  They
• 4:42
  went
• 4:42
  from
• 4:43
  3000
• 4:43
  to
• 4:43
  13,000.
• 4:44
  Just
• 4:45
  add
• 4:45
  10,000
• 4:45
  onto
• 4:45
  it
• 4:46
  magically.
• 4:46
  That
• 4:46
  could
• 4:47
  be
• 4:47
  it,
• 4:47
  but
• 4:47
  that
• 4:47
  was
• 4:47
  what
• 4:47
  immediately
• 4:48
  caught
• 4:48
  my
• 4:48
  eye.
• 4:49
  The
• 4:49
  other
• 4:49
  thing
• 4:49
  that
• 4:49
  you
• 4:49
  mentioned
• 4:50
  is
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  release
• 4:51
  stated
• 4:51
  that
• 4:52
  they're
• 4:52
  gonna
• 4:52
  be
• 4:52
  working
• 4:52
  on
• 4:53
  voluntary
• 4:54
  standards
• 4:55
  for
• 4:55
  various
• 4:56
  types
• 4:56
  of
• 4:56
  operations
• 4:57
  and
• 4:57
  immediately
• 4:58
  what
• 4:58
  the
• 4:58
  owners
• 4:59
  within
• 4:59
  the
• 4:59
  Facebook
• 5:00
  group
• 5:00
  noted
• 5:00
  is
• 5:00
  that
• 5:00
  they're
• 5:00
  small
• 5:01
  park
• 5:01
  owners.
• 5:01
  They
• 5:02
  don't
• 5:02
  have
• 5:02
  the
• 5:02
  time,
• 5:03
  energy
• 5:03
  or
• 5:03
  money
• 5:04
  to
• 5:04
  follow
• 5:04
  certain
• 5:05
  standards.
• 5:05
  So
• 5:06
  what
• 5:06
  exactly
• 5:06
  is
• 5:06
  gonna
• 5:07
  come
• 5:07
  out
• 5:07
  of
• 5:07
  that?
• 5:08
  The
• 5:08
  group
• 5:08
  may
• 5:08
  decide
• 5:09
  that
• 5:09
  the
• 5:09
  folks
• 5:09
  that
• 5:09
  are
• 5:09
  on
• 5:10
  this
• 5:10
  group
• 5:10
  may
• 5:10
  decide
• 5:10
  that's
• 5:11
  the
• 5:11
  case.
• 5:11
  Most
• 5:12
  of
• 5:12
  the
• 5:12
  park
• 5:12
  owners
• 5:12
  won't
• 5:12
  be
• 5:12
  able
• 5:13
  to
• 5:13
  follow
• 5:13
  any
• 5:14
  standards
• 5:14
  they
• 5:14
  lay
• 5:14
  out.
• 5:15
  So
• 5:15
  they're,
• 5:15
  they'll
• 5:15
  just
• 5:15
  have
• 5:16
  guidelines
• 5:16
  that
• 5:16
  they
• 5:16
  listed.
• 5:17
  This
• 5:17
  is
• 5:17
  what
• 5:17
  an
• 5:18
  RV
• 5:18
  park
• 5:18
  is.
• 5:18
  This
• 5:19
  is
• 5:19
  what
• 5:19
  an
• 5:19
  RV
• 5:19
  resort
• 5:20
  is.
• 5:20
  This
• 5:20
  is
• 5:20
  what
• 5:20
  a
• 5:20
  Campground
• 5:21
  is.
• 5:22
  The
• 5:22
  problem
• 5:22
  is
• 5:22
  you
• 5:22
  start
• 5:23
  going
• 5:23
  down
• 5:23
  that
• 5:23
  route.
• 5:24
  The
• 5:24
  big
• 5:24
  question
• 5:24
  that
• 5:24
  comes
• 5:25
  to
• 5:25
  my
• 5:25
  mind
• 5:25
  is.
• 5:27
  Why
• 5:28
  do
• 5:28
  we
• 5:28
  need
• 5:28
  this
• 5:28
  task
• 5:28
  force?
• 5:29
  What's
• 5:29
  the
• 5:29
  purpose
• 5:30
  of
• 5:30
  it?
• 5:30
  Is
• 5:30
  there
• 5:31
  some
• 5:31
  organization
• 5:32
  that's
• 5:32
  trying
• 5:32
  to
• 5:32
  help
• 5:33
  weigh
• 5:33
  in
• 5:33
  that,
• 5:33
  that
• 5:34
  they're
• 5:34
  trying
• 5:34
  to
• 5:34
  muscle
• 5:35
  out.
• 5:35
  What's
• 5:35
  going
• 5:36
  on
• 5:36
  here?
• 5:36
  Why
• 5:37
  is
• 5:37
  there
• 5:37
  the
• 5:37
  task
• 5:37
  force
• 5:37
  in
• 5:38
  the
• 5:38
  first
• 5:38
  place
• 5:38
  now?
• 5:39
  I
• 5:39
  don't
• 5:39
  know
• 5:39
  it,
• 5:39
  I'm
• 5:39
  not
• 5:39
  involved
• 5:40
  in
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  conversation,
• 5:40
  not
• 5:41
  involved
• 5:41
  with
• 5:41
  the
• 5:41
  RBC.
• 5:42
  Don't
• 5:42
  know
• 5:42
  that,
• 5:42
  but
• 5:42
  that
• 5:42
  was
• 5:42
  why
• 5:43
  I
• 5:43
  posted
• 5:43
  the
• 5:43
  article
• 5:44
  and
• 5:44
  why
• 5:44
  it
• 5:44
  caught
• 5:44
  my
• 5:44
  eye
• 5:44
  in
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  first
• 5:45
  place.
• 5:45
  So
• 5:45
  I
• 5:45
  think
• 5:45
  my
• 5:45
  concern
• 5:46
  just
• 5:46
  to
• 5:46
  finish,
• 5:47
  to
• 5:47
  follow
• 5:47
  up
• 5:47
  on
• 5:47
  your
• 5:47
  comment
• 5:47
  before
• 5:48
  I
• 5:48
  let
• 5:48
  everybody
• 5:48
  else
• 5:49
  jump
• 5:49
  in,
• 5:49
  if
• 5:49
  they
• 5:49
  wanna,
• 5:49
  I
• 5:49
  think
• 5:50
  Sandy
• 5:50
  will
• 5:50
  have
• 5:50
  some
• 5:50
  comments
• 5:51
  and
• 5:51
  Randy
• 5:51
  might
• 5:51
  and
• 5:52
  Ruben
• 5:52
  feel
• 5:52
  free
• 5:53
  to
• 5:53
  jump
• 5:53
  into
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  buyer
• 5:54
  if
• 5:54
  you
• 5:54
  want
• 5:54
  to
• 5:54
  too.
• 5:54
  We're
• 5:55
  not
• 5:55
  gonna
• 5:55
  talk
• 5:55
  about
• 5:55
  this,
• 5:55
  the
• 5:55
  whole
• 5:56
  show,
• 5:56
  but
• 5:57
  one
• 5:57
  of
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  things
• 5:57
  that
• 5:57
  concerns
• 5:58
  me
• 5:58
  is
• 5:58
  let's
• 5:58
  say
• 5:58
  you
• 5:58
  come
• 5:59
  out
• 5:59
  with
• 5:59
  this.
• 6:04
  Oops.
• 6:05
  Nope.
• 6:05
  I've
• 6:06
  lost
• 6:06
  Brian.
• 6:08
  Yeah.
• 6:08
  Okay.
• 6:08
  We
• 6:08
  all
• 6:09
  have
• 6:09
  he's
• 6:09
  frozen.
• 6:10
  Okay
• 6:10
  I'm
• 6:10
  going
• 6:10
  to
• 6:11
  jump
• 6:11
  in
• 6:11
  while
• 6:12
  we
• 6:12
  wait
• 6:12
  for
• 6:12
  him
• 6:12
  to
• 6:12
  come
• 6:12
  back
• 6:13
  and
• 6:13
  I
• 6:13
  guess
• 6:13
  maybe
• 6:14
  just
• 6:14
  say,
• 6:14
  I
• 6:15
  completely
• 6:15
  agree
• 6:15
  with
• 6:15
  mark.
• 6:16
  I
• 6:16
  would
• 6:16
  love
• 6:17
  to
• 6:17
  hear
• 6:17
  the
• 6:18
  thought
• 6:18
  process
• 6:18
  behind
• 6:19
  why
• 6:20
  this
• 6:21
  is
• 6:21
  happening
• 6:21
  and
• 6:21
  maybe
• 6:22
  we
• 6:22
  can
• 6:22
  get
• 6:22
  some
• 6:23
  insights
• 6:23
  from
• 6:23
  somebody
• 6:24
  at
• 6:24
  Arabic
• 6:24
  at
• 6:24
  some
• 6:24
  point.
• 6:25
  But
• 6:25
  I,
• 6:26
  as
• 6:26
  a
• 6:26
  former
• 6:27
  operator
• 6:28
  of
• 6:28
  a
• 6:28
  small
• 6:28
  park,
• 6:29
  a
• 6:29
  small
• 6:29
  business
• 6:30
  I
• 6:30
  can
• 6:30
  see
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  perspective
• 6:32
  of
• 6:32
  those
• 6:33
  specific
• 6:33
  individuals.
• 6:34
  And,
• 6:35
  I
• 6:35
  was
• 6:35
  saying
• 6:35
  before
• 6:36
  we
• 6:36
  jumped
• 6:36
  on,
• 6:36
  I'm
• 6:36
  out
• 6:37
  of
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  loop,
• 6:37
  I'm
• 6:37
  not
• 6:38
  as
• 6:38
  informed
• 6:38
  maybe
• 6:39
  on
• 6:39
  what
• 6:39
  But
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  was
• 6:40
  just
• 6:40
  scrolling
• 6:40
  through
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  post
• 6:41
  on
• 6:42
  Facebook
• 6:42
  and
• 6:42
  checking
• 6:43
  out
• 6:43
  the
• 6:43
  comments
• 6:43
  It
• 6:44
  is
• 6:44
  concerning
• 6:44
  it's
• 6:44
  concerning
• 6:45
  to
• 6:46
  put
• 6:46
  this
• 6:46
  list
• 6:46
  of
• 6:46
  standards
• 6:47
  together
• 6:47
  who
• 6:48
  gets
• 6:48
  to
• 6:48
  decide
• 6:48
  what
• 6:49
  those
• 6:49
  are
• 6:49
  and
• 6:49
  what
• 6:50
  kind
• 6:50
  of
• 6:50
  impact
• 6:50
  does
• 6:51
  that
• 6:51
  have?
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  mean
• 6:51
  that
• 6:52
  the
• 6:52
  idea
• 6:52
  that
• 6:53
  a
• 6:53
  group
• 6:54
  of
• 6:54
  individuals
• 6:54
  should
• 6:55
  get
• 6:55
  to
• 6:55
  decide
• 6:56
  what
• 6:56
  kinds
• 6:56
  of
• 6:57
  Camping
• 6:58
  experiences
• 6:58
  are
• 6:59
  available,
• 7:00
  I
• 7:00
  think
• 7:00
  is
• 7:01
  con
• 7:02
  seriously
• 7:02
  concerning
• 7:03
  for
• 7:03
  the
• 7:03
  industry.
• 7:03
  One
• 7:04
  of
• 7:04
  our
• 7:04
  biggest
• 7:04
  strengths
• 7:05
  is
• 7:05
  our
• 7:05
  adaptability.
• 7:06
  And
• 7:06
  it's
• 7:06
  quite
• 7:07
  a
• 7:07
  necessity
• 7:08
  because
• 7:08
  frankly,
• 7:09
  because
• 7:09
  of
• 7:09
  how
• 7:09
  different
• 7:11
  all
• 7:11
  of
• 7:11
  these
• 7:11
  parks
• 7:12
  are
• 7:12
  and
• 7:12
  that's
• 7:13
  a
• 7:13
  product
• 7:13
  of
• 7:14
  their
• 7:14
  different
• 7:14
  locations
• 7:15
  and
• 7:15
  they're
• 7:15
  different
• 7:16
  proximities
• 7:17
  to
• 7:17
  different
• 7:17
  amenities
• 7:18
  and
• 7:19
  so
• 7:19
  many
• 7:19
  different
• 7:20
  factors
• 7:20
  that
• 7:21
  I,
• 7:21
  I
• 7:22
  think
• 7:22
  applying
• 7:23
  a
• 7:23
  base
• 7:24
  set
• 7:24
  of
• 7:24
  standards
• 7:25
  to
• 7:25
  them
• 7:25
  all
• 7:26
  is
• 7:26
  going
• 7:26
  to
• 7:26
  be
• 7:27
  frankly
• 7:27
  really
• 7:28
  tough
• 7:29
  in
• 7:29
  my
• 7:29
  opinion.
• 7:29
  I
• 7:29
  can't
• 7:30
  see
• 7:30
  how
• 7:30
  it's
• 7:30
  achieving.
• 7:32
  not
• 7:32
  without
• 7:32
  seriously
• 7:32
  impacting
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  outliers
• 7:34
  at
• 7:34
  the
• 7:34
  ends
• 7:34
  of
• 7:35
  the
• 7:35
  bell
• 7:35
  curves
• 7:35
  the
• 7:36
  really
• 7:36
  small
• 7:36
  guys.
• 7:39
  Yeah.
• 7:39
  And
• 7:39
  I
• 7:40
  totally
• 7:40
  agree
• 7:40
  with
• 7:41
  you
• 7:41
  too,
• 7:41
  mark.
• 7:41
  And
• 7:42
  I
• 7:42
  just
• 7:42
  applaud
• 7:42
  you
• 7:43
  for
• 7:43
  being
• 7:43
  willing
• 7:43
  to
• 7:44
  actually
• 7:44
  bring
• 7:44
  the
• 7:44
  topic
• 7:45
  up
• 7:45
  because
• 7:45
  it
• 7:46
  is
• 7:46
  a
• 7:46
  hot
• 7:46
  potato.
• 7:47
  But
• 7:47
  I
• 7:48
  am
• 7:48
  a
• 7:48
  firm
• 7:48
  believer
• 7:48
  that
• 7:49
  if
• 7:49
  we're
• 7:49
  gonna
• 7:49
  talk
• 7:50
  about
• 7:50
  standardization,
• 7:51
  let's
• 7:52
  just
• 7:52
  say
• 7:52
  it's
• 7:52
  about
• 7:53
  safety
• 7:53
  and
• 7:53
  security.
• 7:54
  That
• 7:54
  needs
• 7:55
  to
• 7:55
  be
• 7:55
  at
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  state
• 7:56
  level.
• 7:56
  There
• 7:56
  are
• 7:56
  too
• 7:57
  many
• 7:57
  differences
• 7:58
  state
• 7:59
  to
• 7:59
  try
• 7:59
  and
• 7:59
  cover
• 8:00
  that
• 8:00
  at
• 8:00
  a
• 8:00
  national
• 8:01
  level.
• 8:02
  And
• 8:02
  so
• 8:02
  if
• 8:03
  there
• 8:03
  was
• 8:03
  a
• 8:03
  task
• 8:03
  force,
• 8:04
  it
• 8:04
  should
• 8:04
  be
• 8:04
  a
• 8:04
  task
• 8:05
  force
• 8:05
  at
• 8:05
  the
• 8:05
  state
• 8:06
  level
• 8:06
  run
• 8:07
  by
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  states.
• 8:08
  And
• 8:08
  then
• 8:08
  that
• 8:08
  information
• 8:09
  possibly
• 8:09
  shared
• 8:10
  with
• 8:11
  the
• 8:11
  national
• 8:11
  organization.
• 8:12
  I
• 8:12
  also
• 8:13
  totally
• 8:13
  agree
• 8:13
  with
• 8:14
  you,
• 8:14
  mark,
• 8:14
  that
• 8:14
  we
• 8:14
  do
• 8:15
  need
• 8:15
  great
• 8:15
  national
• 8:16
  representation
• 8:17
  and
• 8:17
  it
• 8:17
  needs
• 8:18
  to
• 8:18
  be
• 8:18
  national
• 8:18
  representation
• 8:19
  that
• 8:20
  works
• 8:20
  for
• 8:20
  the
• 8:21
  state
• 8:21
  associations
• 8:22
  and
• 8:22
  for
• 8:22
  what's
• 8:23
  best
• 8:23
  for
• 8:23
  them.
• 8:24
  And
• 8:24
  that
• 8:25
  parks
• 8:25
  should
• 8:25
  be
• 8:25
  a
• 8:26
  part
• 8:26
  of
• 8:26
  their
• 8:26
  state
• 8:27
  association,
• 8:28
  not
• 8:29
  have
• 8:29
  to
• 8:29
  pay
• 8:30
  for
• 8:30
  a
• 8:30
  national
• 8:30
  association
• 8:31
  membership.
• 8:32
  And
• 8:32
  there
• 8:32
  are
• 8:32
  ways
• 8:32
  of
• 8:33
  doing
• 8:33
  that,
• 8:33
  generating
• 8:34
  the
• 8:34
  revenue
• 8:34
  for
• 8:35
  it
• 8:35
  and
• 8:35
  still
• 8:35
  making
• 8:36
  it
• 8:36
  profitable
• 8:36
  for
• 8:37
  both
• 8:37
  the
• 8:37
  parks
• 8:38
  and
• 8:38
  the
• 8:38
  national
• 8:38
  association.
• 8:39
  It's
• 8:40
  something
• 8:40
  I've
• 8:40
  been
• 8:40
  very
• 8:41
  vocal
• 8:41
  about
• 8:41
  in
• 8:42
  the
• 8:42
  past
• 8:42
  several
• 8:42
  months
• 8:43
  because
• 8:43
  some
• 8:44
  of
• 8:44
  these
• 8:44
  conversations
• 8:45
  have
• 8:45
  been
• 8:45
  being
• 8:46
  had
• 8:46
  prior
• 8:47
  to
• 8:47
  the
• 8:47
  public
• 8:47
  announcement.
• 8:48
  And
• 8:49
  so
• 8:49
  there
• 8:50
  are
• 8:50
  already
• 8:50
  a
• 8:50
  lot
• 8:51
  of
• 8:51
  parts,
• 8:52
  extremely
• 8:53
  upset
• 8:53
  about
• 8:54
  what
• 8:54
  they
• 8:55
  perceive
• 8:55
  as
• 8:55
  happening.
• 8:56
  And
• 8:56
  I
• 8:57
  don't
• 8:57
  know
• 8:57
  if
• 8:57
  they
• 8:57
  have
• 8:57
  the
• 8:58
  right
• 8:58
  perception
• 8:58
  or
• 8:59
  not,
• 8:59
  because
• 8:59
  I
• 8:59
  don't
• 9:00
  know
• 9:00
  that
• 9:00
  anybody
• 9:01
  does.
• 9:01
  I
• 9:01
  don't
• 9:01
  even
• 9:01
  know
• 9:02
  if
• 9:02
  the
• 9:02
  existing
• 9:03
  task
• 9:03
  force
• 9:03
  has
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  right
• 9:04
  perception.
• 9:05
  So
• 9:05
  that
• 9:05
  concerns
• 9:06
  me
• 9:06
  too.
• 9:08
  Yeah.
• 9:08
  Back
• 9:08
  where
• 9:09
  my
• 9:09
  red
• 9:09
  flags
• 9:09
  really
• 9:10
  go
• 9:10
  up
• 9:10
  is
• 9:10
  back
• 9:10
  during
• 9:11
  COVID.
• 9:11
  I'm
• 9:11
  going
• 9:11
  back
• 9:12
  in
• 9:12
  time
• 9:12
  a
• 9:12
  little
• 9:12
  bit.
• 9:13
  If
• 9:13
  you
• 9:13
  remember
• 9:13
  in
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  heart
• 9:14
  of
• 9:14
  it,
• 9:14
  there
• 9:14
  was
• 9:14
  this
• 9:14
  real,
• 9:15
  there
• 9:15
  was
• 9:15
  the
• 9:16
  the
• 9:16
  idea
• 9:16
  that
• 9:16
  there
• 9:17
  were
• 9:17
  these
• 9:17
  businesses
• 9:17
  that
• 9:18
  could
• 9:18
  be
• 9:18
  open
• 9:18
  or
• 9:18
  not
• 9:19
  open
• 9:19
  basically
• 9:20
  essential
• 9:20
  businesses.
• 9:20
  And
• 9:21
  so
• 9:21
  there
• 9:21
  was
• 9:21
  a
• 9:21
  fear
• 9:21
  that
• 9:21
  there
• 9:21
  was
• 9:22
  this
• 9:22
  push
• 9:22
  to
• 9:22
  shut
• 9:22
  down
• 9:23
  some
• 9:23
  campgrounds
• 9:23
  in
• 9:23
  RV
• 9:24
  parks.
• 9:24
  And
• 9:25
  where
• 9:25
  I
• 9:25
  go
• 9:26
  is
• 9:26
  I
• 9:26
  go
• 9:26
  back
• 9:26
  to
• 9:26
  a
• 9:27
  moment
• 9:27
  in
• 9:27
  time
• 9:27
  when
• 9:27
  the
• 9:27
  national
• 9:28
  association
• 9:28
  put
• 9:29
  out
• 9:29
  a
• 9:29
  document
• 9:30
  that
• 9:30
  said
• 9:30
  that
• 9:30
  RV
• 9:31
  parks
• 9:31
  and
• 9:31
  campgrounds
• 9:32
  could
• 9:32
  remain
• 9:32
  open,
• 9:33
  but
• 9:33
  they
• 9:33
  just
• 9:34
  had
• 9:34
  to
• 9:34
  tear
• 9:34
  down
• 9:35
  their
• 9:35
  gym
• 9:35
  equipment,
• 9:35
  physically
• 9:36
  remove
• 9:36
  their
• 9:37
  gym
• 9:37
  equipment
• 9:37
  from
• 9:37
  the
• 9:37
  property.
• 9:38
  And
• 9:38
  then
• 9:39
  that
• 9:39
  then
• 9:39
  they
• 9:39
  would
• 9:39
  be
• 9:39
  operating
• 9:40
  appropriately.
• 9:41
  And
• 9:41
  I,
• 9:41
  at
• 9:42
  that
• 9:42
  time,
• 9:42
  I
• 9:42
  was
• 9:42
  a
• 9:43
  participating
• 9:44
  vendor
• 9:44
  within
• 9:44
  the
• 9:44
  organization.
• 9:45
  I
• 9:45
  raised
• 9:45
  my
• 9:45
  hand
• 9:45
  and
• 9:45
  said,
• 9:46
  Hey,
• 9:46
  this
• 9:46
  who
• 9:47
  did
• 9:47
  this?
• 9:47
  Who
• 9:47
  said
• 9:47
  this
• 9:47
  idea?
• 9:48
  Like,
• 9:48
  where
• 9:48
  did
• 9:48
  this
• 9:48
  come
• 9:49
  from?
• 9:49
  And
• 9:49
  that
• 9:49
  was
• 9:50
  actually
• 9:50
  distributed.
• 9:51
  Luckily
• 9:51
  none
• 9:51
  of
• 9:51
  the
• 9:52
  state.
• 9:53
  Powers
• 9:54
  that
• 9:54
  be
• 9:54
  picked
• 9:54
  up
• 9:54
  that
• 9:54
  document
• 9:55
  and
• 9:55
  tried
• 9:55
  to
• 9:55
  implement
• 9:56
  it
• 9:56
  cuz
• 9:56
  good
• 9:57
  God.
• 9:57
  Could
• 9:57
  you
• 9:57
  imagine
• 9:57
  RV
• 9:58
  parks
• 9:58
  and
• 9:58
  Campground
• 9:58
  being
• 9:58
  forced
• 9:59
  to
• 9:59
  tear
• 9:59
  down
• 9:59
  their
• 10:00
  gym
• 10:00
  equipment
• 10:00
  point
• 10:01
  being
• 10:01
  is
• 10:01
  those
• 10:02
  are
• 10:02
  the
• 10:02
  unintended
• 10:02
  consequences
• 10:04
  of
• 10:04
  big
• 10:04
  nationalist
• 10:05
  decisions
• 10:06
  being
• 10:06
  made.
• 10:07
  And
• 10:07
  so
• 10:07
  again,
• 10:07
  that's
• 10:07
  just
• 10:07
  why
• 10:08
  I
• 10:08
  raised
• 10:08
  my
• 10:08
  hand.
• 10:08
  I'm
• 10:08
  not
• 10:08
  saying
• 10:09
  it's
• 10:09
  a
• 10:09
  bad
• 10:09
  idea.
• 10:10
  I'm
• 10:10
  just
• 10:10
  saying
• 10:11
  where,
• 10:11
  why,
• 10:12
  number
• 10:12
  one,
• 10:12
  why?
• 10:13
  And
• 10:13
  number
• 10:13
  two
• 10:14
  what's
• 10:14
  the,
• 10:14
  I
• 10:14
  guess
• 10:15
  it's
• 10:15
  the
• 10:15
  same
• 10:15
  question.
• 10:16
  Why,
• 10:16
  and
• 10:16
  what's
• 10:17
  the
• 10:17
  purpose
• 10:17
  of
• 10:17
  it?
• 10:18
  Yeah.
• 10:18
  And
• 10:18
  my
• 10:18
  quick
• 10:19
  two,
• 10:19
  2
• 10:20
  cents
• 10:20
  here,
• 10:20
  I
• 10:20
  know
• 10:20
  that
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  little
• 10:21
  bit
• 10:21
  of
• 10:21
  comparing
• 10:22
  apples
• 10:22
  to,
• 10:23
  to
• 10:23
  oranges,
• 10:23
  but
• 10:24
  from
• 10:24
  the
• 10:24
  glamping
• 10:25
  industry,
• 10:25
  we
• 10:25
  actually
• 10:26
  started
• 10:26
  at
• 10:26
  the.
• 10:27
  From
• 10:27
  the
• 10:27
  American
• 10:28
  glamping
• 10:28
  association,
• 10:29
  there
• 10:29
  was
• 10:29
  big
• 10:29
  calls
• 10:30
  at
• 10:30
  the
• 10:30
  very
• 10:30
  beginning.
• 10:30
  The
• 10:30
  reason
• 10:31
  for
• 10:31
  the
• 10:31
  association
• 10:32
  was
• 10:32
  for
• 10:33
  standardization,
• 10:34
  right?
• 10:34
  That
• 10:34
  was
• 10:35
  the
• 10:35
  big
• 10:35
  calls.
• 10:35
  We
• 10:35
  need
• 10:36
  a
• 10:36
  star
• 10:36
  system
• 10:37
  like
• 10:37
  the
• 10:37
  hotels,
• 10:38
  we
• 10:38
  need
• 10:39
  health
• 10:39
  and
• 10:39
  safety
• 10:40
  and,
• 10:40
  and
• 10:40
  all
• 10:40
  that.
• 10:41
  And
• 10:41
  we
• 10:41
  looked
• 10:42
  into
• 10:42
  that
• 10:42
  really
• 10:42
  aggressively.
• 10:43
  And
• 10:43
  it
• 10:43
  was
• 10:43
  very
• 10:44
  clear
• 10:44
  that
• 10:44
  it
• 10:45
  was
• 10:45
  gonna
• 10:45
  be
• 10:45
  a
• 10:45
  very
• 10:45
  hard
• 10:46
  pathway
• 10:46
  forward
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  be
• 10:47
  a
• 10:47
  policing
• 10:48
  agency
• 10:49
  versus
• 10:50
  tools,
• 10:50
  resources,
• 10:51
  education,
• 10:52
  and
• 10:52
  assistance.
• 10:53
  We
• 10:53
  looked
• 10:54
  at
• 10:54
  the
• 10:54
  rating
• 10:54
  we
• 10:55
  looked
• 10:55
  at,
• 10:55
  defining
• 10:56
  different
• 10:56
  types
• 10:57
  of
• 10:57
  categories
• 10:57
  of
• 10:57
  accommodation
• 10:59
  and
• 10:59
  every
• 10:59
  pathway
• 11:00
  that
• 11:00
  we
• 11:01
  looked
• 11:01
  down
• 11:01
  as,
• 11:01
  like
• 11:02
  this
• 11:02
  really
• 11:02
  changes
• 11:03
  the
• 11:03
  makeup
• 11:04
  of
• 11:04
  the
• 11:05
  organization
• 11:05
  as
• 11:05
  a
• 11:05
  whole
• 11:06
  and
• 11:06
  what
• 11:06
  we
• 11:06
  stand
• 11:07
  for
• 11:07
  instead
• 11:07
  of
• 11:07
  us
• 11:08
  saying,
• 11:08
  Hey,
• 11:09
  looks
• 11:09
  like
• 11:09
  you're
• 11:10
  a
• 11:10
  little
• 11:10
  bit
• 11:10
  far
• 11:10
  away
• 11:11
  from
• 11:11
  where
• 11:11
  you
• 11:11
  need
• 11:11
  to
• 11:11
  be.
• 11:11
  Let's
• 11:12
  help
• 11:12
  you.
• 11:13
  It
• 11:13
  was
• 11:13
  turning
• 11:13
  into
• 11:14
  now
• 11:14
  you're
• 11:14
  three
• 11:15
  stars
• 11:15
  instead
• 11:15
  of
• 11:15
  five
• 11:16
  stars,
• 11:16
  or
• 11:16
  now
• 11:16
  you're
• 11:17
  in
• 11:17
  trouble
• 11:17
  and
• 11:17
  now
• 11:17
  you're
• 11:17
  not,
• 11:18
  and
• 11:18
  there
• 11:18
  was
• 11:19
  a
• 11:19
  big
• 11:19
  disconnect
• 11:19
  on
• 11:20
  who,
• 11:20
  what
• 11:20
  we
• 11:20
  were
• 11:20
  trying
• 11:21
  to
• 11:21
  accomplish
• 11:21
  and
• 11:21
  where
• 11:22
  we
• 11:22
  wanted
• 11:22
  to
• 11:22
  be
• 11:23
  versus
• 11:24
  what
• 11:24
  that
• 11:24
  standardization
• 11:25
  was.
• 11:25
  And
• 11:26
  there
• 11:26
  was
• 11:26
  also
• 11:27
  a
• 11:27
  significant
• 11:27
  amount
• 11:27
  of
• 11:27
  complications
• 11:28
  of
• 11:28
  enforcing,
• 11:29
  right?
• 11:30
  It's
• 11:30
  one
• 11:30
  thing
• 11:30
  to
• 11:31
  define
• 11:31
  and
• 11:31
  standardize,
• 11:32
  but
• 11:32
  then
• 11:32
  how
• 11:32
  do
• 11:32
  you
• 11:33
  enforce
• 11:34
  in
• 11:34
  a
• 11:34
  way
• 11:35
  that's
• 11:35
  actually
• 11:35
  good
• 11:35
  for
• 11:35
  the
• 11:36
  industry,
• 11:36
  which
• 11:36
  we
• 11:36
  just
• 11:37
  couldn't
• 11:37
  wrap
• 11:38
  our
• 11:38
  heads
• 11:38
  around,
• 11:38
  maybe
• 11:39
  within
• 11:39
  this,
• 11:39
  maybe
• 11:39
  there
• 11:40
  is
• 11:40
  something
• 11:40
  there
• 11:41
  for
• 11:41
  enforcing
• 11:42
  that,
• 11:42
  I
• 11:42
  just
• 11:42
  can't
• 11:42
  see,
• 11:43
  but
• 11:43
  those
• 11:43
  are
• 11:44
  the
• 11:44
  things
• 11:44
  that
• 11:44
  really
• 11:44
  stood
• 11:44
  out
• 11:45
  for
• 11:45
  us
• 11:45
  was
• 11:46
  not
• 11:46
  only
• 11:46
  the
• 11:46
  characterization
• 11:47
  of
• 11:47
  what
• 11:47
  an
• 11:47
  association
• 11:48
  should
• 11:48
  be
• 11:48
  and
• 11:49
  who
• 11:49
  they
• 11:49
  should
• 11:49
  be
• 11:49
  serving,
• 11:50
  but
• 11:50
  then
• 11:50
  how
• 11:51
  has
• 11:51
  it
• 11:51
  become
• 11:52
  what's
• 11:52
  that
• 11:52
  intersection
• 11:53
  of
• 11:53
  reality,
• 11:55
  right?
• 11:55
  Cause
• 11:55
  it's
• 11:55
  one
• 11:55
  thing
• 11:55
  to
• 11:56
  have
• 11:56
  a
• 11:56
  plan.
• 11:56
  It's
• 11:56
  one
• 11:57
  thing
• 11:57
  to
• 11:57
  try
• 11:57
  and
• 11:59
  rule
• 11:59
  out
• 11:59
  that
• 11:59
  plan,
• 12:00
  but
• 12:00
  then
• 12:00
  how
• 12:00
  do
• 12:00
  you
• 12:00
  actually
• 12:01
  enforce
• 12:01
  it
• 12:02
  in
• 12:02
  a
• 12:02
  way
• 12:02
  that's
• 12:02
  good
• 12:03
  for
• 12:03
  the
• 12:03
  industry?
• 12:04
  We
• 12:04
  just
• 12:04
  couldn't
• 12:05
  wrap
• 12:05
  our
• 12:05
  heads
• 12:05
  around
• 12:06
  and
• 12:06
  very
• 12:06
  early,
• 12:07
  we.
• 12:07
  Okay.
• 12:08
  People
• 12:08
  wanted
• 12:08
  that,
• 12:08
  but
• 12:09
  we're
• 12:09
  going
• 12:09
  in
• 12:09
  a
• 12:09
  different
• 12:10
  direction.
• 12:11
  It's
• 12:12
  mind
• 12:12
  blowing
• 12:12
  to
• 12:13
  me.
• 12:14
  Yeah.
• 12:15
  Brandy.
• 12:15
  We're
• 12:15
  probably
• 12:16
  gonna
• 12:16
  go
• 12:16
  the
• 12:16
  same
• 12:17
  place.
• 12:17
  Go
• 12:19
  but
• 12:19
  Ruben
• 12:19
  that's
• 12:19
  something
• 12:20
  that
• 12:20
  kind
• 12:20
  of
• 12:20
  strikes
• 12:20
  me
• 12:21
  about
• 12:21
  is
• 12:21
  RV
• 12:21
  task
• 12:22
  force
• 12:22
  structurally,
• 12:24
  I
• 12:24
  think
• 12:24
  to
• 12:24
  myself,
• 12:25
  have
• 12:25
  a
• 12:25
  task
• 12:25
  force
• 12:26
  that
• 12:26
  should
• 12:26
  have
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  objective.
• 12:27
  What
• 12:27
  is
• 12:27
  the
• 12:27
  outcome
• 12:29
  of
• 12:29
  the
• 12:29
  task
• 12:29
  for
• 12:30
  the
• 12:30
  conclusions
• 12:30
  you
• 12:30
  hope
• 12:31
  to
• 12:31
  come
• 12:31
  to?
• 12:31
  If
• 12:32
  it's
• 12:32
  an
• 12:32
  altruistic
• 12:33
  task
• 12:33
  force,
• 12:34
  which
• 12:34
  arguably
• 12:35
  it
• 12:35
  is,
• 12:35
  there's
• 12:35
  some
• 12:36
  good
• 12:36
  horsepower.
• 12:37
  Then
• 12:37
  when
• 12:37
  we
• 12:37
  emerge
• 12:38
  with
• 12:38
  the
• 12:39
  set
• 12:39
  of
• 12:39
  Henderson
• 12:40
  practices,
• 12:40
  what's
• 12:41
  the
• 12:41
  if
• 12:41
  you're
• 12:41
  70
• 12:42
  side,
• 12:42
  I
• 12:42
  got
• 12:43
  70
• 12:44
  side
• 12:44
  parks.
• 12:45
  So
• 12:45
  if
• 12:45
  the
• 12:46
  state
• 12:46
  come
• 12:46
  down
• 12:46
  from
• 12:46
  RV
• 12:47
  says,
• 12:47
  you'd
• 12:47
  be
• 12:47
  doing
• 12:48
  X,
• 12:49
  Y,
• 12:49
  and
• 12:49
  Z,
• 12:49
  and
• 12:49
  that's
• 12:49
  not
• 12:50
  feasible
• 12:50
  for
• 12:50
  me.
• 12:51
  Did
• 12:51
  I
• 12:51
  any
• 12:51
  benefit
• 12:52
  of
• 12:52
  at
• 12:52
  all
• 12:52
  from
• 12:53
  that
• 12:54
  survey?
• 12:54
  It
• 12:55
  change
• 12:55
  the
• 12:55
  way
• 12:55
  I
• 12:56
  do
• 12:56
  it,
• 12:56
  arguably
• 12:57
  does
• 12:57
  not.
• 12:59
  So
• 12:59
  there's
• 12:59
  altruism
• 13:00
  present
• 13:00
  with
• 13:00
  ANOC
• 13:01
  as
• 13:01
  far
• 13:01
  as
• 13:01
  specific
• 13:02
  applicability.
• 13:04
  I
• 13:04
  think
• 13:04
  that's
• 13:04
  what
• 13:05
  is
• 13:05
  the
• 13:05
  juice
• 13:05
  now?
• 13:05
  I've
• 13:06
  got,
• 13:06
  this
• 13:06
  should
• 13:06
  be
• 13:06
  doing
• 13:07
  it.
• 13:08
  Doesn't
• 13:08
  really
• 13:08
  chain
• 13:08
  life
• 13:09
  too
• 13:09
  much,
• 13:10
  for
• 13:10
  the
• 13:10
  park
• 13:10
  and
• 13:10
  Campground
• 13:11
  industry,
• 13:11
  but
• 13:12
  it
• 13:13
  also
• 13:13
  speaks
• 13:13
  to
• 13:13
  something
• 13:14
  the
• 13:15
  boards
• 13:15
  for
• 13:15
  17
• 13:16
  years.
• 13:16
  So
• 13:16
  I've
• 13:16
  got
• 13:16
  to
• 13:17
  live
• 13:17
  on
• 13:18
  both
• 13:18
  sides,
• 13:18
  the,
• 13:19
  a
• 13:19
  average
• 13:19
  side,
• 13:20
  the
• 13:20
  state
• 13:20
  like
• 13:20
  that.
• 13:22
  And
• 13:22
  to
• 13:22
  me,
• 13:22
  it
• 13:22
  comes
• 13:23
  down
• 13:23
  to
• 13:23
  a
• 13:23
  couple
• 13:23
  basic
• 13:24
  precepts,
• 13:24
  one,
• 13:25
  a
• 13:25
  national
• 13:25
  association,
• 13:27
  mark,
• 13:27
  couldn't
• 13:27
  agree
• 13:27
  more.
• 13:28
  You
• 13:28
  need
• 13:28
  a
• 13:28
  strong
• 13:28
  national
• 13:29
  Associa
• 13:30
  that
• 13:30
  don't
• 13:30
  have
• 13:30
  a
• 13:30
  state
• 13:32
  association
• 13:33
  and
• 13:33
  a
• 13:33
  national
• 13:34
  is
• 13:34
  really
• 13:34
  their
• 13:34
  only
• 13:35
  where
• 13:35
  they
• 13:35
  go
• 13:35
  for
• 13:35
  any
• 13:35
  kind
• 13:36
  of
• 13:37
  advocacy
• 13:37
  for
• 13:37
  their
• 13:38
  business,
• 13:38
  or
• 13:38
  what
• 13:38
  have
• 13:39
  you.
• 13:39
  National
• 13:40
  association,
• 13:41
  what
• 13:41
  I
• 13:42
  defended
• 13:42
  practical
• 13:43
  app
• 13:44
  application,
• 13:44
  if
• 13:44
  you
• 13:45
  own
• 13:45
  that
• 13:45
  small
• 13:45
  park
• 13:46
  and
• 13:46
  you're
• 13:47
  choosing
• 13:47
  by
• 13:48
  joining
• 13:48
  the
• 13:48
  national
• 13:49
  or
• 13:49
  the
• 13:49
  state,
• 13:50
  there's
• 13:50
  two
• 13:50
  ways
• 13:51
  of
• 13:51
  thinking.
• 13:52
  The
• 13:52
  first
• 13:53
  is
• 13:53
  defensive.
• 13:54
  If
• 13:54
  you're
• 13:54
  a
• 13:54
  small
• 13:54
  park,
• 13:55
  your
• 13:55
  defensive
• 13:55
  position
• 13:56
  is
• 13:57
  where
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  regulations
• 13:58
  that
• 13:58
  affect
• 13:58
  me.
• 13:59
  Where
• 13:59
  the
• 13:59
  regulations,
• 14:00
  what
• 14:00
  pending
• 14:02
  legislation
• 14:02
  might
• 14:03
  there
• 14:03
  be?
• 14:03
  Who's
• 14:04
  watching
• 14:04
  that
• 14:04
  form
• 14:05
  and
• 14:05
  can't
• 14:05
  do
• 14:05
  that
• 14:05
  myself.
• 14:07
  Your
• 14:07
  state
• 14:08
  is
• 14:08
  gonna
• 14:08
  be
• 14:08
  hyper
• 14:09
  dialed
• 14:09
  in
• 14:09
  to
• 14:10
  thank
• 14:10
  you
• 14:10
  on
• 14:10
  a
• 14:10
  state
• 14:11
  based
• 14:12
  basis
• 14:12
  for
• 14:13
  those
• 14:13
  Campground.
• 14:14
  That's
• 14:14
  the
• 14:14
  immediate
• 14:15
  position
• 14:16
  nationally
• 14:17
  you
• 14:17
  can
• 14:18
  argue.
• 14:18
  Yes.
• 14:18
  There's
• 14:18
  a
• 14:18
  lot
• 14:18
  of
• 14:19
  advocacy.
• 14:19
  They
• 14:19
  basis
• 14:20
  doesn't
• 14:20
  apply
• 14:21
  to
• 14:21
  my
• 14:21
  daily
• 14:21
  life.
• 14:22
  Maybe
• 14:22
  not
• 14:22
  so
• 14:22
  much.
• 14:23
  I'm
• 14:23
  glad
• 14:23
  they're
• 14:23
  doing
• 14:23
  it.
• 14:24
  If
• 14:24
  I
• 14:24
  have
• 14:24
  two
• 14:24
  checks
• 14:25
  to,
• 14:25
  I
• 14:26
  support
• 14:27
  the
• 14:27
  national
• 14:27
  and
• 14:27
  one
• 14:28
  to
• 14:28
  support
• 14:28
  the
• 14:28
  state,
• 14:29
  probably
• 14:29
  write
• 14:30
  that
• 14:30
  check
• 14:32
  in
• 14:32
  my
• 14:32
  state
• 14:33
  because
• 14:33
  they're
• 14:33
  walking.
• 14:34
  That's
• 14:34
  not
• 14:34
  a
• 14:34
  slam
• 14:34
  against
• 14:36
  national.
• 14:37
  They
• 14:37
  can't
• 14:37
  burn
• 14:37
  every
• 14:38
  state,
• 14:38
  but
• 14:38
  the
• 14:39
  states
• 14:39
  can
• 14:39
  do
• 14:39
  that.
• 14:41
  So
• 14:41
  those
• 14:41
  are
• 14:41
  some
• 14:42
  regulations
• 14:42
  to
• 14:42
  small
• 14:43
  park
• 14:43
  up
• 14:43
  where
• 14:43
  it
• 14:43
  goes,
• 14:44
  got
• 14:44
  X
• 14:44
  amount
• 14:44
  of
• 14:44
  dollars,
• 14:45
  where's
• 14:45
  it
• 14:46
  best
• 14:46
  spent.
• 14:47
  And
• 14:47
  it's
• 14:47
  usually
• 14:48
  I'm
• 14:48
  gonna
• 14:48
  cover
• 14:48
  my
• 14:48
  butt
• 14:49
  states
• 14:50
  do
• 14:50
  that
• 14:51
  probably
• 14:51
  better
• 14:51
  than
• 14:52
  cam
• 14:52
  again,
• 14:53
  not
• 14:53
  by
• 14:53
  default
• 14:53
  design.
• 14:57
  I
• 14:57
  think
• 14:57
  from
• 14:57
  an
• 14:57
  association
• 14:58
  perspective
• 14:59
  I
• 14:59
  can
• 14:59
  I'll
• 14:59
  agree
• 15:00
  with
• 15:00
  Randy.
• 15:00
  I
• 15:00
  am
• 15:01
  in
• 15:01
  the
• 15:01
  same
• 15:01
  boat
• 15:01
  where
• 15:02
  I'm
• 15:02
  executive
• 15:03
  director
• 15:03
  of
• 15:03
  a
• 15:03
  provincial
• 15:03
  association.
• 15:04
  Then
• 15:05
  I
• 15:05
  work
• 15:05
  for
• 15:05
  the
• 15:05
  national
• 15:06
  association
• 15:06
  in
• 15:07
  a
• 15:07
  member
• 15:07
  services
• 15:08
  capacity.
• 15:08
  So
• 15:09
  I
• 15:09
  have
• 15:09
  experienced
• 15:10
  kind
• 15:10
  of
• 15:11
  both
• 15:11
  of
• 15:11
  those
• 15:11
  levels.
• 15:12
  And
• 15:12
  certainly
• 15:12
  I
• 15:12
  think
• 15:13
  our
• 15:13
  fundamental
• 15:13
  structure
• 15:14
  is
• 15:14
  different
• 15:15
  here
• 15:15
  in
• 15:15
  Canada,
• 15:16
  compared
• 15:17
  to
• 15:17
  the
• 15:17
  states
• 15:17
  where,
• 15:19
  you
• 15:19
  know,
• 15:19
  when
• 15:20
  I
• 15:20
  get
• 15:20
  a
• 15:20
  new
• 15:20
  member
• 15:21
  inquiry
• 15:22
  for
• 15:22
  the
• 15:22
  national
• 15:23
  association
• 15:24
  I
• 15:24
  direct
• 15:24
  them
• 15:25
  to
• 15:25
  the
• 15:25
  provincial
• 15:26
  association
• 15:26
  to
• 15:27
  join
• 15:27
  the
• 15:28
  members,
• 15:29
  the
• 15:29
  national
• 15:29
  Association's
• 15:30
  members
• 15:31
  are
• 15:31
  the
• 15:31
  provincial
• 15:32
  it's
• 15:32
  formatted
• 15:33
  that
• 15:33
  way
• 15:33
  so
• 15:34
  that
• 15:34
  their
• 15:34
  members
• 15:35
  receive
• 15:35
  all
• 15:35
  of
• 15:35
  the
• 15:35
  national
• 15:36
  benefits,
• 15:36
  but
• 15:37
  our
• 15:37
  members
• 15:37
  are
• 15:37
  actually
• 15:38
  the
• 15:38
  individual
• 15:39
  provincial
• 15:39
  associations.
• 15:40
  And
• 15:41
  I
• 15:41
  think
• 15:42
  that.
• 15:42
  Is
• 15:43
  beneficial
• 15:44
  specifically
• 15:45
  to
• 15:45
  the,
• 15:45
  to
• 15:45
  an
• 15:45
  operator
• 15:46
  because
• 15:46
  now
• 15:46
  you're
• 15:47
  getting
• 15:47
  that
• 15:47
  support
• 15:48
  at
• 15:48
  both
• 15:48
  levels
• 15:49
  necessary,
• 15:50
  we
• 15:50
  can
• 15:50
  for
• 15:50
  vendors
• 15:51
  and
• 15:51
  things
• 15:51
  that
• 15:51
  have
• 15:51
  national
• 15:52
  level
• 15:52
  coverage,
• 15:53
  we
• 15:53
  can
• 15:54
  offer
• 15:54
  that
• 15:54
  benefit
• 15:55
  at
• 15:55
  the
• 15:55
  national
• 15:56
  level
• 15:56
  and
• 15:56
  all,
• 15:57
  everyone
• 15:57
  in
• 15:57
  all
• 15:57
  of
• 15:57
  the
• 15:57
  provinces
• 15:58
  gets
• 15:58
  it.
• 15:58
  Some
• 15:58
  of
• 15:58
  our
• 15:59
  vendors
• 15:59
  are
• 15:59
  only
• 15:59
  in
• 15:59
  certain
• 16:00
  provinces.
• 16:00
  And
• 16:00
  so
• 16:01
  they,
• 16:01
  there's
• 16:01
  fundamental
• 16:02
  day
• 16:02
  to
• 16:02
  day
• 16:02
  stuff
• 16:03
  that
• 16:03
  impacts
• 16:04
  those
• 16:04
  things
• 16:04
  that
• 16:04
  makes
• 16:04
  it
• 16:05
  streamlined.
• 16:05
  But
• 16:06
  I
• 16:06
  think
• 16:06
  this
• 16:06
  idea
• 16:06
  that
• 16:09
  we
• 16:09
  have
• 16:09
  to,
• 16:10
  that
• 16:11
  it
• 16:12
  doesn't
• 16:12
  make
• 16:12
  sense
• 16:12
  to
• 16:12
  me
• 16:13
  to
• 16:13
  have
• 16:13
  this
• 16:14
  dual
• 16:15
  stream
• 16:16
  of
• 16:16
  association
• 16:17
  setup,
• 16:19
  given
• 16:19
  that
• 16:19
  a
• 16:19
  lot
• 16:20
  of
• 16:20
  the
• 16:20
  kind
• 16:20
  of
• 16:21
  day
• 16:21
  to
• 16:21
  day
• 16:22
  necessity
• 16:22
  stuff
• 16:23
  is
• 16:23
  repetitive.
• 16:24
  We,
• 16:24
  we
• 16:24
  could
• 16:24
  be,
• 16:25
  we
• 16:25
  can
• 16:25
  be
• 16:25
  working
• 16:25
  together
• 16:26
  and
• 16:26
  not
• 16:26
  reinventing
• 16:27
  the
• 16:27
  wheel
• 16:27
  and
• 16:27
  not
• 16:28
  doing
• 16:28
  stuff
• 16:28
  over
• 16:29
  and.
• 16:29
  I,
• 16:29
  we,
• 16:30
  I
• 16:30
  would
• 16:30
  have
• 16:30
  a
• 16:30
  hard
• 16:31
  time,
• 16:31
  I
• 16:31
  think
• 16:31
  getting
• 16:32
  my
• 16:32
  the
• 16:32
  board
• 16:33
  here
• 16:34
  to
• 16:34
  agree
• 16:34
  on
• 16:36
  starting,
• 16:37
  walking
• 16:38
  down
• 16:38
  this
• 16:38
  road.
• 16:39
  I
• 16:39
  love
• 16:39
  what
• 16:39
  Ruben
• 16:40
  said
• 16:40
  about,
• 16:41
  taking
• 16:41
  this
• 16:41
  position
• 16:42
  in
• 16:43
  kind
• 16:43
  of
• 16:43
  a
• 16:43
  positive
• 16:44
  way
• 16:44
  where
• 16:44
  instead
• 16:45
  of
• 16:45
  this
• 16:46
  policing
• 16:47
  kind
• 16:47
  of
• 16:47
  almost
• 16:48
  punishment,
• 16:49
  whatever
• 16:50
  scenario
• 16:51
  you
• 16:51
  have,
• 16:51
  this
• 16:51
  motivational
• 16:53
  thing
• 16:53
  that
• 16:54
  essentially
• 16:55
  pushes
• 16:55
  the
• 16:55
  market
• 16:55
  to,
• 16:56
  to.
• 16:57
  Push
• 16:58
  operators
• 16:58
  to
• 16:59
  perform
• 16:59
  in
• 16:59
  a
• 16:59
  certain
• 17:00
  way,
• 17:00
  instead
• 17:01
  of
• 17:01
  some
• 17:02
  governing
• 17:02
  body
• 17:03
  consumers
• 17:03
  set.
• 17:04
  And
• 17:04
  what
• 17:04
  I'll
• 17:04
  add
• 17:04
  to
• 17:04
  that,
• 17:05
  Cara
• 17:05
  is
• 17:05
  part
• 17:05
  of
• 17:05
  the
• 17:05
  release
• 17:06
  said
• 17:06
  that
• 17:06
  these
• 17:06
  will
• 17:06
  be
• 17:07
  voluntary
• 17:07
  guidelines.
• 17:08
  And
• 17:08
  so
• 17:08
  that
• 17:08
  would
• 17:08
  be
• 17:09
  the
• 17:09
  out
• 17:09
  is,
• 17:09
  oh,
• 17:09
  they're
• 17:09
  gonna
• 17:09
  be
• 17:09
  voluntary.
• 17:10
  Nobody
• 17:10
  can
• 17:10
  follow
• 17:11
  it.
• 17:11
  But
• 17:11
  then
• 17:11
  it's
• 17:11
  mentioned
• 17:11
  that
• 17:12
  it'll
• 17:12
  also
• 17:12
  be
• 17:12
  like
• 17:12
  the
• 17:12
  NFPA
• 17:13
  and
• 17:14
  anybody
• 17:14
  who's
• 17:14
  ever
• 17:15
  built
• 17:15
  a
• 17:15
  park
• 17:15
  knows
• 17:16
  that
• 17:16
  you
• 17:16
  go
• 17:16
  into
• 17:16
  an
• 17:16
  area,
• 17:17
  you
• 17:17
  go
• 17:17
  to
• 17:17
  zoning,
• 17:18
  you
• 17:18
  say,
• 17:18
  oh,
• 17:18
  there's
• 17:18
  these
• 17:18
  guidelines
• 17:19
  to
• 17:19
  NFPA.
• 17:20
  If
• 17:20
  that
• 17:20
  local
• 17:20
  county
• 17:20
  looks
• 17:21
  up
• 17:21
  and
• 17:21
  says,
• 17:21
  oh,
• 17:22
  there's
• 17:22
  also
• 17:23
  national
• 17:23
  guidelines.
• 17:24
  Now,
• 17:24
  are
• 17:24
  you
• 17:25
  building
• 17:25
  your
• 17:25
  park
• 17:25
  to
• 17:26
  the
• 17:26
  national
• 17:26
  guidelines
• 17:27
  too?
• 17:27
  And
• 17:27
  now
• 17:27
  you're
• 17:28
  potentially
• 17:28
  creating
• 17:29
  a
• 17:29
  scenario
• 17:29
  where
• 17:29
  down
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  road.
• 17:31
  Future
• 17:31
  developers
• 17:32
  have
• 17:32
  increased
• 17:32
  cost
• 17:33
  of
• 17:33
  development
• 17:33
  because
• 17:34
  whatever's
• 17:35
  on
• 17:35
  that
• 17:35
  document
• 17:35
  that
• 17:36
  is
• 17:36
  required.
• 17:36
  They
• 17:36
  didn't
• 17:36
  plan
• 17:37
  on
• 17:37
  doing
• 17:37
  it.
• 17:37
  Now
• 17:37
  they
• 17:37
  have
• 17:37
  to
• 17:37
  do
• 17:38
  it
• 17:38
  and
• 17:38
  they
• 17:38
  have
• 17:38
  to
• 17:38
  build
• 17:39
  that
• 17:39
  into
• 17:39
  their
• 17:39
  business
• 17:40
  plan.
• 17:40
  So
• 17:40
  if
• 17:40
  it's
• 17:41
  discounted
• 17:41
  by
• 17:41
  saying
• 17:42
  it's
• 17:42
  voluntary,
• 17:42
  I
• 17:42
  would
• 17:43
  argue
• 17:43
  against
• 17:43
  that.
• 17:43
  If
• 17:44
  an
• 17:44
  association
• 17:44
  like
• 17:44
  this
• 17:45
  is
• 17:45
  putting
• 17:45
  out
• 17:45
  any
• 17:46
  sort
• 17:46
  of
• 17:46
  guidelines,
• 17:46
  that
• 17:47
  again
• 17:47
  I
• 17:47
  refer
• 17:47
  back
• 17:47
  to
• 17:47
  the
• 17:48
  COVID
• 17:48
  thing.
• 17:48
  When
• 17:48
  a
• 17:48
  national
• 17:49
  association
• 17:49
  puts
• 17:50
  out,
• 17:50
  you
• 17:50
  need
• 17:50
  to
• 17:50
  tear
• 17:50
  down
• 17:50
  your
• 17:51
  playground
• 17:51
  equipment.
• 17:52
  Good
• 17:52
  God,
• 17:52
  thank
• 17:53
  God.
• 17:53
  Nobody
• 17:53
  picked
• 17:53
  up
• 17:53
  that
• 17:53
  document.
• 17:54
  Read
• 17:54
  it.
• 17:54
  This
• 17:54
  could
• 17:54
  be
• 17:54
  the
• 17:55
  same
• 17:55
  case
• 17:55
  here.
• 17:56
  Yeah.
• 17:56
  And
• 17:56
  the
• 17:56
  thing
• 17:57
  that
• 17:57
  scares
• 17:57
  me
• 17:58
  is
• 17:58
  anything
• 17:59
  political
• 17:59
  always
• 18:00
  starts
• 18:00
  out
• 18:01
  as
• 18:01
  voluntary.
• 18:02
  And
• 18:03
  you
• 18:03
  know
• 18:03
  that
• 18:04
  down
• 18:04
  the
• 18:04
  road
• 18:04
  it's
• 18:05
  suddenly
• 18:05
  gonna
• 18:05
  become.
• 18:06
  Now
• 18:06
  it's
• 18:06
  a
• 18:06
  requirement
• 18:07
  and
• 18:07
  oh,
• 18:07
  because
• 18:08
  it's
• 18:08
  a
• 18:08
  requirement
• 18:09
  now
• 18:09
  you're
• 18:09
  also
• 18:09
  required
• 18:10
  to
• 18:10
  be
• 18:11
  a
• 18:11
  member
• 18:11
  of
• 18:11
  the
• 18:11
  organization.
• 18:12
  And
• 18:13
  so
• 18:13
  it
• 18:13
  just
• 18:14
  snowballs.
• 18:15
  And
• 18:15
  I
• 18:15
  think
• 18:16
  they
• 18:17
  may
• 18:17
  have
• 18:17
  had
• 18:17
  some
• 18:17
  good
• 18:18
  motives
• 18:18
  when
• 18:19
  they
• 18:19
  started
• 18:19
  doing
• 18:19
  this.
• 18:20
  But
• 18:21
  even
• 18:21
  the
• 18:21
  way
• 18:21
  you've
• 18:21
  communicated,
• 18:22
  if
• 18:22
  they've
• 18:23
  come
• 18:23
  out
• 18:23
  to
• 18:23
  the
• 18:23
  parks
• 18:24
  and
• 18:24
  said,
• 18:24
  Hey,
• 18:24
  we've
• 18:24
  learned
• 18:25
  so
• 18:25
  much
• 18:25
  from
• 18:25
  COVID.
• 18:26
  We
• 18:26
  had
• 18:26
  campers
• 18:27
  who
• 18:27
  were
• 18:27
  confused
• 18:28
  by
• 18:28
  the
• 18:28
  name.
• 18:29
  Is
• 18:29
  it
• 18:29
  a
• 18:29
  park?
• 18:29
  Is
• 18:30
  it
• 18:30
  a
• 18:30
  resort?
• 18:31
  We
• 18:31
  wanna
• 18:31
  create
• 18:32
  some
• 18:32
  standardized
• 18:33
  language
• 18:33
  around
• 18:34
  what
• 18:34
  we
• 18:34
  call
• 18:34
  our
• 18:35
  parks,
• 18:35
  how
• 18:36
  can
• 18:36
  we
• 18:36
  come
• 18:36
  alongside
• 18:37
  and
• 18:37
  help
• 18:37
  you?
• 18:38
  How
• 18:38
  can
• 18:38
  we
• 18:38
  help
• 18:38
  you
• 18:38
  with
• 18:39
  this?
• 18:39
  The
• 18:39
  reaction.
• 18:40
  I
• 18:40
  think
• 18:40
  would've
• 18:40
  been
• 18:40
  totally
• 18:41
  different
• 18:42
  than
• 18:42
  to
• 18:42
  call
• 18:43
  it
• 18:43
  a
• 18:43
  task
• 18:43
  force
• 18:44
  to
• 18:45
  go
• 18:45
  out
• 18:46
  and
• 18:46
  establish
• 18:46
  some
• 18:46
  of
• 18:47
  the
• 18:47
  things
• 18:47
  that
• 18:47
  they've
• 18:47
  said
• 18:47
  they
• 18:48
  wanna
• 18:48
  do.
• 18:49
  Do
• 18:49
  we
• 18:49
  have
• 18:49
  a
• 18:49
  sense
• 18:50
  that
• 18:50
  those
• 18:51
  are
• 18:51
  their
• 18:51
  intentions,
• 18:52
  that
• 18:52
  the
• 18:52
  things
• 18:53
  that
• 18:53
  Sandy's
• 18:53
  mentioning
• 18:54
  or
• 18:54
  we
• 18:54
  don't
• 18:54
  know
• 18:54
  any
• 18:55
  of
• 18:55
  that
• 18:55
  yet?
• 18:56
  I
• 18:57
  don't
• 18:57
  think
• 18:57
  we
• 18:57
  know
• 18:57
  any
• 18:58
  of
• 18:58
  that
• 18:58
  yet
• 18:58
  as
• 18:58
  a
• 18:58
  fact,
• 18:59
  right?
• 19:01
  Yeah.
• 19:01
  All
• 19:01
  we
• 19:01
  know
• 19:01
  is
• 19:01
  what's
• 19:02
  in
• 19:02
  the
• 19:02
  release,
• 19:03
  right?
• 19:04
  Yeah.
• 19:04
  My,
• 19:05
  my
• 19:06
  sent
• 19:06
  an
• 19:07
  altruistic
• 19:07
  place
• 19:09
  that
• 19:09
  they
• 19:09
  want
• 19:09
  to
• 19:10
  provide
• 19:10
  some
• 19:10
  sort
• 19:11
  of
• 19:11
  the
• 19:11
  people
• 19:11
  that
• 19:11
  may
• 19:12
  need
• 19:12
  it.
• 19:12
  I
• 19:12
  can't,
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  intention
• 19:15
  of
• 19:15
  the
• 19:15
  goal
• 19:15
  to
• 19:15
  provide
• 19:16
  some
• 19:16
  kind
• 19:16
  of
• 19:16
  direction
• 19:17
  and
• 19:18
  standards.
• 19:18
  I
• 19:18
  can
• 19:18
  that
• 19:19
  at
• 19:19
  all,
• 19:20
  and
• 19:20
  I'm
• 19:20
  not
• 19:20
  trying
• 19:21
  poke
• 19:21
  holes
• 19:21
  in
• 19:21
  them,
• 19:21
  but
• 19:22
  the
• 19:22
  one
• 19:22
  thing
• 19:22
  I
• 19:23
  come.
• 19:24
  Again
• 19:24
  is
• 19:25
  what
• 19:25
  is
• 19:25
  the
• 19:25
  applicability
• 19:26
  of
• 19:26
  done?
• 19:27
  My
• 19:27
  sense
• 19:28
  is
• 19:28
  it's
• 19:28
  going
• 19:29
  read
• 19:29
  and
• 19:30
  discarded
• 19:30
  and
• 19:30
  it
• 19:31
  won't
• 19:31
  be
• 19:31
  the
• 19:31
  thing
• 19:31
  you
• 19:31
  just
• 19:31
  say,
• 19:32
  am
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  still
• 19:32
  doing
• 19:32
  best?
• 19:33
  S
• 19:34
  there'll
• 19:34
  be
• 19:34
  a
• 19:34
  one
• 19:34
  time
• 19:35
  thing.
• 19:35
  You,
• 19:35
  the
• 19:35
  task
• 19:36
  force
• 19:36
  will
• 19:36
  be
• 19:37
  expanded
• 19:37
  and
• 19:38
  what
• 19:38
  have
• 19:38
  we
• 19:38
  done?
• 19:39
  So
• 19:39
  again,
• 19:39
  the
• 19:40
  altruism,
• 19:40
  I
• 19:40
  just
• 19:40
  don't
• 19:40
  know
• 19:40
  how
• 19:41
  applicable,
• 19:42
  what
• 19:42
  is
• 19:42
  to
• 19:43
  every
• 19:43
  Campground
• 19:43
  owner.
• 19:45
  Yeah,
• 19:46
  totally
• 19:46
  love
• 19:46
  what
• 19:47
  Ruben
• 19:47
  said.
• 19:47
  And
• 19:48
  I
• 19:48
  thought
• 19:48
  that
• 19:48
  was
• 19:48
  so
• 19:49
  relevant
• 19:49
  that
• 19:50
  they
• 19:50
  went
• 19:50
  through
• 19:50
  and
• 19:50
  did
• 19:51
  the
• 19:51
  due
• 19:51
  diligence
• 19:52
  to,
• 19:52
  to
• 19:53
  get
• 19:53
  to
• 19:53
  the
• 19:53
  point
• 19:53
  where
• 19:54
  they
• 19:54
  thought
• 19:54
  this
• 19:54
  might
• 19:55
  not
• 19:55
  be
• 19:55
  the
• 19:55
  best
• 19:55
  thing,
• 19:56
  because
• 19:56
  ultimately
• 19:57
  you
• 19:57
  do
• 19:57
  become,
• 19:58
  the
• 19:58
  police.
• 19:58
  And
• 19:58
  that's
• 19:59
  never
• 19:59
  a
• 19:59
  place
• 19:59
  that
• 20:00
  you
• 20:00
  wanna
• 20:00
  be
• 20:00
  where
• 20:01
  you've
• 20:01
  gotta
• 20:01
  oversee
• 20:02
  and
• 20:02
  do
• 20:02
  that.
• 20:02
  It's
• 20:03
  expensive.
• 20:03
  It's
• 20:04
  not
• 20:04
  friendly,
• 20:05
  and
• 20:05
  I
• 20:05
  just
• 20:05
  really
• 20:06
  hope
• 20:06
  that
• 20:07
  they'll
• 20:07
  take
• 20:08
  a
• 20:08
  step
• 20:08
  back
• 20:09
  and
• 20:09
  look
• 20:09
  at
• 20:09
  that
• 20:09
  and
• 20:10
  take
• 20:10
  some
• 20:10
  advice
• 20:10
  from
• 20:10
  some
• 20:11
  other
• 20:11
  people.
• 20:11
  Maybe
• 20:11
  they'll
• 20:12
  see
• 20:12
  the
• 20:12
  podcast
• 20:13
  and
• 20:13
  consider
• 20:14
  that.
• 20:14
  Do
• 20:14
  you,
• 20:16
  I
• 20:16
  guess
• 20:16
  maybe
• 20:16
  this
• 20:17
  is
• 20:17
  a.
• 20:18
  Question,
• 20:19
  we
• 20:19
  can't
• 20:19
  don't
• 20:19
  have
• 20:19
  answers
• 20:20
  to
• 20:20
  either,
• 20:20
  but
• 20:21
  does
• 20:21
  anyone
• 20:21
  foresee
• 20:22
  them
• 20:22
  doing
• 20:22
  that?
• 20:23
  Taking
• 20:23
  some
• 20:24
  consultation
• 20:25
  from
• 20:25
  stakeholders
• 20:26
  that
• 20:27
  you
• 20:27
  know,
• 20:27
  smaller
• 20:28
  parks
• 20:28
  and
• 20:29
  things,
• 20:29
  a
• 20:29
  variety
• 20:30
  of
• 20:30
  stakeholders
• 20:31
  to
• 20:31
  get
• 20:31
  more
• 20:31
  input
• 20:32
  on
• 20:32
  how
• 20:34
  this
• 20:34
  will
• 20:34
  go
• 20:35
  or
• 20:35
  are
• 20:35
  we
• 20:36
  full
• 20:36
  steam
• 20:36
  ahead
• 20:36
  and
• 20:37
  it's
• 20:37
  done
• 20:37
  and
• 20:37
  decided
• 20:38
  I,
• 20:38
  I
• 20:38
  would
• 20:38
  have
• 20:39
  a,
• 20:39
  if
• 20:39
  I
• 20:39
  had
• 20:39
  to
• 20:39
  guess,
• 20:40
  I
• 20:40
  would
• 20:40
  guess
• 20:40
  that
• 20:41
  this
• 20:41
  this
• 20:41
  broadcast
• 20:42
  right
• 20:42
  here
• 20:42
  is
• 20:42
  about
• 20:43
  to
• 20:43
  light
• 20:43
  up
• 20:43
  a
• 20:43
  massive
• 20:44
  little
• 20:45
  fire.
• 20:45
  And
• 20:46
  I
• 20:46
  would
• 20:46
  think
• 20:46
  that
• 20:47
  a
• 20:47
  response
• 20:48
  result
• 20:48
  would
• 20:48
  be
• 20:48
  exactly
• 20:49
  that
• 20:49
  reach
• 20:49
  out
• 20:50
  to
• 20:50
  more
• 20:50
  stakeholders
• 20:51
  and
• 20:51
  maybe
• 20:51
  draw
• 20:52
  together.
• 20:52
  Again,
• 20:52
  the
• 20:52
  folks
• 20:53
  that
• 20:53
  are
• 20:53
  named
• 20:53
  on
• 20:53
  that
• 20:53
  task
• 20:54
  force
• 20:54
  are
• 20:54
  amazing.
• 20:55
  They
• 20:55
  know
• 20:55
  our
• 20:55
  industry
• 20:55
  and
• 20:55
  side
• 20:56
  of
• 20:56
  now.
• 20:56
  It's
• 20:56
  not
• 20:56
  a
• 20:56
  knock
• 20:57
  on
• 20:57
  them.
• 20:57
  It's
• 20:57
  just
• 20:58
  back
• 20:58
  to
• 20:58
  Randy's.
• 20:59
  Why,
• 21:00
  what,
• 21:00
  why
• 21:00
  are
• 21:00
  we
• 21:00
  doing
• 21:01
  this?
• 21:01
  And
• 21:02
  maybe
• 21:02
  they
• 21:02
  relook
• 21:02
  at
• 21:03
  that
• 21:03
  and
• 21:03
  ask
• 21:04
  not
• 21:04
  only
• 21:04
  the
• 21:04
  why,
• 21:04
  but
• 21:05
  what
• 21:05
  is
• 21:05
  the
• 21:05
  outcome
• 21:06
  again,
• 21:06
  to
• 21:06
  Randy's
• 21:06
  point
• 21:07
  is
• 21:07
  a
• 21:07
  good
• 21:07
  document
• 21:07
  that
• 21:07
  just
• 21:08
  discarded
• 21:08
  or
• 21:08
  is
• 21:08
  this
• 21:08
  gonna
• 21:09
  be
• 21:09
  something
• 21:09
  that's
• 21:09
  gonna
• 21:09
  be
• 21:09
  put
• 21:09
  into
• 21:10
  practice?
• 21:10
  So
• 21:10
  that
• 21:11
  way
• 21:11
  there's
• 21:11
  some
• 21:11
  real
• 21:11
  tangible
• 21:12
  results
• 21:12
  from
• 21:13
  it.
• 21:13
  I'm
• 21:13
  fascinated
• 21:13
  by
• 21:14
  this
• 21:14
  whole
• 21:15
  thing.
• 21:16
  I,
• 21:16
  I
• 21:16
  was
• 21:16
  saying
• 21:17
  earlier,
• 21:17
  I
• 21:17
  should
• 21:17
  spend
• 21:18
  more
• 21:18
  time
• 21:18
  on
• 21:18
  Facebook,
• 21:18
  so
• 21:19
  I'm
• 21:19
  not
• 21:19
  blindsided
• 21:21
  by
• 21:21
  this
• 21:21
  stuff.
• 21:21
  But
• 21:22
  yeah,
• 21:24
  if
• 21:25
  I
• 21:25
  may,
• 21:25
  there's
• 21:25
  one
• 21:26
  more
• 21:27
  element
• 21:27
  to
• 21:27
  this.
• 21:28
  And
• 21:28
  again,
• 21:28
  maybe
• 21:28
  this
• 21:29
  is
• 21:29
  just
• 21:29
  my
• 21:30
  written
• 21:30
  institutional
• 21:31
  thing,
• 21:32
  thinking
• 21:33
  to
• 21:33
  some
• 21:33
  degree,
• 21:34
  but
• 21:35
  in
• 21:35
  terms
• 21:35
  of
• 21:35
  a
• 21:35
  state
• 21:36
  board
• 21:36
  will
• 21:36
  go
• 21:37
  through
• 21:37
  a
• 21:37
  vision
• 21:37
  process,
• 21:37
  many
• 21:38
  boards
• 21:38
  go
• 21:38
  through
• 21:38
  a
• 21:38
  vision
• 21:39
  process,
• 21:39
  and
• 21:39
  they'll
• 21:39
  determine
• 21:40
  who
• 21:40
  are
• 21:40
  we?
• 21:40
  What
• 21:40
  are
• 21:40
  we,
• 21:41
  what
• 21:41
  are
• 21:41
  our
• 21:41
  objectives?
• 21:42
  And
• 21:42
  what's
• 21:42
  the
• 21:42
  goal.
• 21:43
  And
• 21:43
  then
• 21:44
  if
• 21:44
  it's,
• 21:44
  if
• 21:44
  done
• 21:45
  property
• 21:45
  revisits
• 21:45
  the
• 21:45
  following
• 21:46
  year
• 21:46
  and
• 21:46
  saying
• 21:46
  we
• 21:47
  apply,
• 21:47
  what
• 21:47
  did
• 21:47
  we
• 21:47
  learn?
• 21:49
  How
• 21:49
  do
• 21:49
  we
• 21:49
  read
• 21:49
  that
• 21:49
  going
• 21:50
  forward,
• 21:51
  if
• 21:51
  from
• 21:51
  a
• 21:51
  benchmark
• 21:52
  and
• 21:52
  a
• 21:52
  measuring
• 21:52
  stick,
• 21:54
  these
• 21:54
  are
• 21:54
  the
• 21:54
  industry
• 21:55
  best
• 21:55
  practices
• 21:55
  and
• 21:56
  standards.
• 21:56
  We've
• 21:56
  determined.
• 21:57
  Let's
• 21:57
  go
• 21:57
  back
• 21:58
  and
• 21:58
  revisit
• 21:59
  the
• 21:59
  next
• 21:59
  duty.
• 22:00
  What's
• 22:00
  changed
• 22:01
  in
• 22:01
  that
• 22:01
  time
• 22:01
  about
• 22:02
  how
• 22:02
  the
• 22:02
  industry
• 22:02
  is
• 22:03
  pivoted.
• 22:04
  Then
• 22:05
  it
• 22:05
  becomes
• 22:05
  a
• 22:05
  resource
• 22:06
  that
• 22:06
  you
• 22:06
  can
• 22:06
  see
• 22:06
  the
• 22:06
  end
• 22:06
  of
• 22:07
  looking
• 22:07
  at
• 22:07
  this
• 22:07
  differently
• 22:08
  than
• 22:09
  different.
• 22:09
  I'm
• 22:10
  not
• 22:10
  saying
• 22:10
  keep
• 22:10
  the
• 22:10
  task
• 22:11
  force
• 22:11
  for,
• 22:12
  until
• 22:12
  we
• 22:12
  all
• 22:12
  leave
• 22:12
  this
• 22:12
  planet.
• 22:14
  I'm
• 22:14
  not
• 22:14
  saying
• 22:14
  that
• 22:14
  many
• 22:14
  stretch
• 22:15
  either,
• 22:15
  but
• 22:16
  it
• 22:16
  goes
• 22:16
  back
• 22:16
  to
• 22:16
  mental
• 22:17
  deliverables.
• 22:17
  And
• 22:18
  I
• 22:18
  don't
• 22:19
  know
• 22:19
  that
• 22:19
  this
• 22:19
  does
• 22:20
  that
• 22:20
  in
• 22:20
  its
• 22:20
  present
• 22:20
  form.
• 22:22
  So
• 22:22
  is
• 22:22
  it
• 22:22
  possible
• 22:23
  that
• 22:23
  we're
• 22:24
  knee
• 22:24
  jerking
• 22:25
  and
• 22:25
  we
• 22:25
  need
• 22:25
  to
• 22:26
  for
• 22:26
  more
• 22:27
  measured.
• 22:29
  Calculated
• 22:30
  communications
• 22:32
  can
• 22:33
  you
• 22:33
  guys,
• 22:34
  I
• 22:34
  will
• 22:34
  blame
• 22:34
  Brian
• 22:35
  who
• 22:35
  started
• 22:35
  the
• 22:35
  conversation
• 22:36
  and
• 22:36
  then
• 22:36
  left
• 22:37
  during
• 22:37
  the
• 22:37
  whole
• 22:37
  thing.
• 22:37
  And
• 22:37
  now
• 22:40
  I
• 22:40
  didn't
• 22:40
  want
• 22:40
  any
• 22:40
  feedback.
• 22:41
  I
• 22:41
  just
• 22:41
  wanted
• 22:41
  to
• 22:41
  give
• 22:41
  my
• 22:41
  opinion,
• 22:42
  like
• 22:42
  my
• 22:42
  entire
• 22:43
  internet
• 22:43
  went
• 22:43
  out.
• 22:43
  I
• 22:43
  tried
• 22:43
  two
• 22:44
  phone
• 22:44
  hotspot,
• 22:45
  like
• 22:46
  none
• 22:46
  of
• 22:46
  my
• 22:46
  wifi
• 22:46
  things
• 22:47
  were
• 22:47
  working
• 22:48
  and
• 22:48
  then
• 22:48
  it
• 22:48
  wouldn't
• 22:48
  reconnect
• 22:49
  in
• 22:49
  here.
• 22:49
  So
• 22:49
  I
• 22:49
  don't
• 22:50
  know
• 22:50
  somehow
• 22:50
  I'm
• 22:50
  back,
• 22:51
  but
• 22:54
  question
• 22:55
  that
• 22:56
  disappear
• 22:56
  too.
• 22:56
  That
• 22:56
  was
• 22:57
  kind
• 22:57
  cool.
• 22:57
  Brian,
• 22:58
  just
• 22:58
  put
• 22:58
  post
• 23:01
  grenade
• 23:02
  Is
• 23:02
  we
• 23:02
  could
• 23:03
  be.
• 23:03
  And
• 23:03
  I
• 23:03
  was
• 23:03
  watching
• 23:04
  a
• 23:04
  little
• 23:04
  bit
• 23:04
  of
• 23:04
  you
• 23:04
  guys
• 23:05
  on
• 23:05
  while
• 23:05
  I
• 23:05
  was
• 23:05
  trying
• 23:06
  to
• 23:06
  figure
• 23:06
  it
• 23:06
  out.
• 23:06
  Like
• 23:06
  I
• 23:06
  could
• 23:07
  watch,
• 23:07
  I
• 23:07
  just
• 23:07
  couldn't
• 23:07
  join
• 23:08
  the
• 23:08
  stream
• 23:08
  again.
• 23:09
  And
• 23:09
  so
• 23:09
  I
• 23:09
  heard
• 23:09
  a
• 23:09
  little
• 23:09
  bit
• 23:10
  of
• 23:10
  your
• 23:10
  conversation,
• 23:10
  but
• 23:10
  I
• 23:11
  think
• 23:11
  you're
• 23:11
  like,
• 23:11
  it's
• 23:11
  possible
• 23:12
  that
• 23:12
  we
• 23:12
  are
• 23:13
  overreacting
• 23:14
  that
• 23:14
  we're
• 23:14
  we
• 23:14
  don't
• 23:15
  have
• 23:15
  all
• 23:15
  the
• 23:15
  facts.
• 23:16
  I
• 23:16
  think,
• 23:16
  from
• 23:16
  my
• 23:17
  perspective,
• 23:17
  just
• 23:18
  coming
• 23:18
  from
• 23:18
  a
• 23:18
  Modern
• 23:19
  Campground
• 23:19
  side,
• 23:20
  Our
• 23:21
  doesn't
• 23:21
  communicate
• 23:21
  with
• 23:21
  us.
• 23:22
  They
• 23:22
  don't
• 23:23
  send
• 23:23
  us
• 23:23
  releases.
• 23:24
  They
• 23:24
  don't
• 23:25
  respond
• 23:25
  to
• 23:25
  our
• 23:25
  emails.
• 23:26
  And
• 23:26
  so
• 23:26
  we
• 23:27
  struggle
• 23:27
  to
• 23:27
  get
• 23:28
  some
• 23:28
  of
• 23:28
  this
• 23:28
  information
• 23:29
  and
• 23:29
  then
• 23:29
  what's
• 23:29
  left
• 23:30
  is
• 23:30
  speculation,
• 23:32
  right?
• 23:32
  We'd
• 23:32
  love
• 23:33
  to
• 23:33
  have
• 23:33
  their
• 23:33
  side
• 23:33
  of
• 23:33
  the
• 23:33
  story,
• 23:34
  but
• 23:35
  we've
• 23:35
  been
• 23:35
  unable
• 23:35
  to
• 23:35
  get
• 23:36
  them
• 23:36
  to
• 23:36
  communicate
• 23:37
  with
• 23:37
  us
• 23:37
  on
• 23:37
  a
• 23:37
  regular
• 23:38
  basis.
• 23:39
  But
• 23:39
  I,
• 23:39
  I
• 23:39
  think
• 23:39
  what's
• 23:39
  super
• 23:40
  interesting
• 23:40
  though,
• 23:41
  looking
• 23:41
  at
• 23:41
  it,
• 23:41
  from
• 23:42
  a
• 23:42
  bit
• 23:42
  of
• 23:42
  the
• 23:42
  outside,
• 23:43
  outside,
• 23:44
  what
• 23:45
  this
• 23:45
  has
• 23:45
  shown
• 23:45
  is
• 23:45
  that
• 23:46
  it
• 23:46
  is
• 23:46
  an
• 23:46
  important
• 23:47
  topic
• 23:47
  to
• 23:47
  people,
• 23:48
  right?
• 23:48
  The
• 23:49
  fact
• 23:49
  that
• 23:49
  a
• 23:49
  little
• 23:49
  bit
• 23:50
  has
• 23:50
  gotten
• 23:50
  out
• 23:50
  there
• 23:51
  and
• 23:51
  the
• 23:51
  fact
• 23:51
  that
• 23:51
  there's
• 23:51
  been
• 23:52
  a
• 23:52
  reaction
• 23:53
  like
• 23:53
  this
• 23:53
  just
• 23:54
  shows
• 23:54
  how,
• 23:55
  important,
• 23:56
  how
• 23:56
  maybe
• 23:57
  volatile
• 23:57
  the
• 23:57
  topic
• 23:58
  can
• 23:58
  be,
• 23:59
  and
• 23:59
  that
• 23:59
  it
• 23:59
  is
• 24:00
  important
• 24:00
  that
• 24:00
  it
• 24:01
  should
• 24:01
  be
• 24:02
  front
• 24:02
  and
• 24:02
  center.
• 24:02
  I
• 24:03
  think
• 24:03
  the
• 24:03
  other
• 24:03
  part
• 24:04
  that
• 24:04
  really
• 24:04
  comes
• 24:04
  to
• 24:04
  mind
• 24:05
  is
• 24:05
  that
• 24:05
  think
• 24:05
  of
• 24:05
  how
• 24:05
  much
• 24:06
  the
• 24:06
  outdoor
• 24:07
  industry
• 24:07
  has
• 24:07
  changed
• 24:08
  in
• 24:08
  the
• 24:08
  last
• 24:09
  two
• 24:09
  or
• 24:09
  three
• 24:09
  years.
• 24:10
  And
• 24:10
  from
• 24:11
  a
• 24:11
  national
• 24:11
  level,
• 24:12
  it
• 24:12
  doesn't
• 24:12
  matter,
• 24:13
  who
• 24:13
  you
• 24:13
  are.
• 24:14
  I
• 24:14
  think
• 24:15
  I
• 24:15
  wouldn't
• 24:15
  call
• 24:15
  it
• 24:16
  a
• 24:16
  danger,
• 24:16
  but
• 24:16
  the
• 24:16
  thing
• 24:16
  that
• 24:16
  you
• 24:16
  have
• 24:17
  to
• 24:17
  always
• 24:17
  be
• 24:17
  careful
• 24:18
  about
• 24:18
  is
• 24:19
  what
• 24:19
  we're
• 24:19
  doing
• 24:19
  and
• 24:20
  what
• 24:20
  we're
• 24:20
  implementing,
• 24:21
  allowing
• 24:21
  for
• 24:22
  pivots
• 24:23
  and
• 24:23
  change
• 24:24
  in
• 24:24
  growth
• 24:25
  within
• 24:25
  the
• 24:25
  industry,
• 24:26
  or
• 24:26
  by
• 24:27
  doing
• 24:27
  X,
• 24:27
  Y,
• 24:28
  and
• 24:28
  Z.
• 24:28
  Are
• 24:28
  we
• 24:29
  really
• 24:29
  hurting
• 24:30
  the
• 24:30
  industry?
• 24:30
  And
• 24:30
  that's
• 24:30
  a
• 24:31
  tough
• 24:31
  question.
• 24:32
  And
• 24:32
  since
• 24:32
  we
• 24:32
  don't
• 24:32
  have
• 24:32
  all
• 24:33
  the
• 24:33
  answers
• 24:34
  from
• 24:34
  exactly
• 24:35
  what
• 24:35
  they
• 24:35
  would
• 24:35
  define
• 24:36
  as
• 24:37
  that
• 24:37
  standardization,
• 24:38
  but
• 24:39
  I'd
• 24:39
  imagine
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  next
• 24:40
  five
• 24:40
  years,
• 24:40
  there's
• 24:40
  gonna
• 24:40
  be
• 24:41
  significant
• 24:41
  change.
• 24:42
  The
• 24:42
  amount
• 24:42
  of
• 24:42
  parks
• 24:43
  that
• 24:43
  have,
• 24:43
  different
• 24:44
  mixed
• 24:44
  usage,
• 24:45
  the
• 24:45
  investment
• 24:46
  that's
• 24:46
  going
• 24:46
  into
• 24:46
  all
• 24:47
  sorts
• 24:47
  of,
• 24:47
  Campground,
• 24:48
  RV
• 24:48
  park,
• 24:49
  glamping,
• 24:50
  everything
• 24:51
  is
• 24:51
  changing
• 24:51
  so
• 24:52
  rapidly
• 24:53
  that
• 24:53
  it's
• 24:53
  almost
• 24:53
  you're
• 24:54
  trying
• 24:54
  to
• 24:54
  put
• 24:54
  a
• 24:54
  a
• 24:54
  piece
• 24:55
  of
• 24:55
  yarn
• 24:55
  around
• 24:55
  an
• 24:56
  ever
• 24:56
  expanding
• 24:57
  building,
• 24:57
  right?
• 24:57
  Like
• 24:57
  it's
• 24:58
  just
• 24:58
  never
• 24:58
  gonna
• 24:58
  hold.
• 24:59
  You
• 24:59
  almost
• 25:00
  have
• 25:00
  to
• 25:00
  let
• 25:00
  it
• 25:00
  grow
• 25:00
  in
• 25:01
  a
• 25:01
  way
• 25:01
  and
• 25:02
  deflect
• 25:03
  and
• 25:03
  allow
• 25:03
  for
• 25:04
  that
• 25:04
  growth
• 25:05
  to
• 25:05
  happen.
• 25:06
  So
• 25:06
  I
• 25:06
  think
• 25:06
  that
• 25:06
  would
• 25:07
  be
• 25:07
  one
• 25:07
  of
• 25:07
  the
• 25:07
  fundamental
• 25:08
  questions
• 25:08
  that
• 25:08
  I
• 25:09
  see
• 25:09
  in
• 25:09
  here
• 25:09
  is
• 25:10
  whatever's
• 25:10
  gonna
• 25:11
  happen
• 25:12
  gonna
• 25:12
  allow
• 25:13
  for
• 25:13
  that
• 25:13
  growth
• 25:13
  to
• 25:13
  continue
• 25:14
  to
• 25:14
  happen
• 25:15
  and
• 25:15
  unpredictable
• 25:15
  growth.
• 25:16
  Nobody
• 25:16
  can
• 25:16
  sit
• 25:17
  here
• 25:17
  and
• 25:17
  say,
• 25:17
  first
• 25:18
  of
• 25:18
  all,
• 25:18
  and
• 25:18
  I
• 25:18
  know
• 25:19
  it's
• 25:19
  gonna,
• 25:20
  yeah,
• 25:21
  totally.
• 25:22
  That's
• 25:22
  my
• 25:22
  biggest
• 25:22
  concern
• 25:23
  is
• 25:23
  do
• 25:23
  we
• 25:23
  then
• 25:24
  hindered
• 25:24
  that
• 25:24
  organic
• 25:26
  kind
• 25:26
  of
• 25:26
  the
• 25:26
  nature
• 25:27
  of
• 25:27
  this
• 25:27
  industry
• 25:28
  and
• 25:28
  how
• 25:28
  it,
• 25:29
  and
• 25:30
  I
• 25:30
  think,
• 25:30
  again,
• 25:31
  going
• 25:31
  back
• 25:32
  to
• 25:32
  that
• 25:32
  same
• 25:32
  thing
• 25:32
  where
• 25:33
  it's
• 25:33
  so
• 25:34
  adaptable
• 25:34
  and
• 25:34
  that's
• 25:35
  part
• 25:35
  of
• 25:36
  its
• 25:36
  nature,
• 25:36
  are
• 25:37
  we
• 25:37
  risking
• 25:37
  hindering
• 25:38
  that
• 25:38
  or
• 25:38
  organic
• 25:39
  growth
• 25:39
  and
• 25:40
  shifting
• 25:40
  and
• 25:41
  things
• 25:42
  that
• 25:42
  are
• 25:42
  dictated
• 25:42
  by
• 25:43
  the
• 25:43
  market
• 25:43
  when
• 25:43
  we
• 25:44
  go
• 25:45
  down
• 25:45
  a
• 25:45
  path
• 25:45
  like
• 25:46
  this?
• 25:46
  And
• 25:46
  one
• 25:46
  of
• 25:46
  the
• 25:46
  things
• 25:47
  too,
• 25:47
  is
• 25:47
  that
• 25:48
  if
• 25:48
  you
• 25:48
  look
• 25:49
  at
• 25:49
  the
• 25:49
  group,
• 25:49
  that's
• 25:49
  on
• 25:50
  the
• 25:50
  taskforce,
• 25:51
  they're
• 25:51
  all
• 25:51
  members
• 25:52
  of
• 25:52
  multi
• 25:52
  park
• 25:53
  systems.
• 25:53
  And
• 25:53
  so
• 25:54
  standardization
• 25:55
  is
• 25:55
  already
• 25:55
  a
• 25:56
  part
• 25:56
  of
• 25:56
  their
• 25:56
  everyday
• 25:57
  norm.
• 25:58
  I
• 25:58
  don't
• 25:58
  see
• 25:59
  anybody
• 25:59
  on
• 25:59
  there.
• 26:00
  That's
• 26:00
  the
• 26:00
  little
• 26:00
  mom
• 26:01
  and
• 26:01
  pop
• 26:01
  that's
• 26:02
  on
• 26:02
  that
• 26:02
  task
• 26:02
  force
• 26:03
  representing
• 26:03
  that
• 26:04
  group,
• 26:04
  which
• 26:05
  is
• 26:05
  a
• 26:05
  huge
• 26:06
  group
• 26:06
  of
• 26:06
  parks.
• 26:06
  Still,
• 26:07
  even
• 26:07
  with
• 26:07
  all
• 26:07
  the
• 26:07
  aggregation
• 26:08
  that's
• 26:08
  going
• 26:09
  on,
• 26:09
  there
• 26:10
  is
• 26:10
  still
• 26:10
  a
• 26:10
  huge
• 26:11
  number
• 26:11
  of
• 26:11
  small
• 26:11
  mom
• 26:12
  and
• 26:12
  pops,
• 26:12
  and
• 26:12
  I
• 26:12
  would
• 26:12
  love
• 26:13
  to
• 26:13
  see
• 26:13
  them
• 26:13
  represented
• 26:15
  on
• 26:15
  the
• 26:15
  task
• 26:15
  force.
• 26:16
  Agreed.
• 26:18
  Do
• 26:18
  we
• 26:18
  have
• 26:19
  a
• 26:19
  sense
• 26:19
  of
• 26:19
  and
• 26:19
  maybe
• 26:20
  Randy,
• 26:20
  this
• 26:20
  cuz
• 26:20
  you're
• 26:20
  getting
• 26:21
  into
• 26:21
  a
• 26:21
  little
• 26:21
  bit
• 26:21
  of
• 26:21
  the
• 26:21
  hotel
• 26:22
  space.
• 26:22
  I
• 26:23
  wish
• 26:23
  we
• 26:23
  had
• 26:23
  Mike
• 26:23
  on
• 26:23
  here
• 26:23
  who
• 26:24
  used
• 26:24
  to
• 26:24
  work
• 26:25
  for
• 26:25
  Marriott.
• 26:25
  He's
• 26:25
  on
• 26:25
  our,
• 26:26
  one
• 26:26
  of
• 26:26
  our
• 26:26
  other
• 26:26
  calls,
• 26:27
  but
• 26:27
  do
• 26:28
  we
• 26:28
  have
• 26:28
  a
• 26:28
  sense
• 26:28
  of,
• 26:28
  is,
• 26:29
  does
• 26:29
  this
• 26:29
  exist
• 26:29
  in
• 26:29
  the
• 26:29
  hotel
• 26:30
  industry?
• 26:30
  Like
• 26:30
  I
• 26:30
  feel
• 26:31
  like
• 26:31
  it
• 26:31
  doesn't
• 26:32
  because
• 26:32
  there,
• 26:32
  again,
• 26:33
  Hyatt,
• 26:33
  Marriott,
• 26:34
  IHG
• 26:35
  have
• 26:35
  their
• 26:35
  standards
• 26:36
  divided
• 26:36
  by
• 26:37
  different
• 26:37
  branding
• 26:38
  and
• 26:38
  different
• 26:39
  standards
• 26:39
  across
• 26:40
  those
• 26:40
  brands,
• 26:41
  much
• 26:41
  like
• 26:42
  Koa
• 26:42
  has
• 26:42
  their
• 26:42
  standards
• 26:43
  and
• 26:43
  I'm
• 26:43
  sure
• 26:43
  Jellystone
• 26:44
  has
• 26:44
  their
• 26:44
  standards,
• 26:45
  but
• 26:45
  is
• 26:45
  there
• 26:46
  somebody
• 26:46
  who's
• 26:46
  attempting
• 26:47
  to
• 26:47
  say
• 26:48
  and
• 26:48
  define
• 26:48
  what
• 26:49
  a
• 26:49
  standard
• 26:49
  hotel
• 26:50
  room
• 26:50
  is
• 26:50
  for
• 26:50
  the
• 26:50
  entire
• 26:51
  industry?
• 26:51
  I
• 26:51
  feel
• 26:51
  like
• 26:51
  I've
• 26:52
  never
• 26:52
  seen
• 26:52
  that.
• 26:53
  And
• 26:53
  it
• 26:53
  would
• 26:53
  never,
• 26:54
  there's
• 26:54
  probably
• 26:55
  there
• 26:56
  probably
• 26:56
  is.
• 26:56
  If
• 26:57
  there
• 26:57
  is
• 26:57
  I'm
• 26:57
  good.
• 26:57
  I
• 26:57
  think
• 26:58
  the
• 26:58
  difference
• 26:58
  is,
• 26:59
  motels,
• 26:59
  as
• 26:59
  you
• 27:00
  said,
• 27:00
  got
• 27:00
  very
• 27:00
  established
• 27:01
  with
• 27:01
  brands
• 27:02
  with
• 27:02
  very
• 27:02
  rigid
• 27:03
  procedures.
• 27:04
  Don't
• 27:04
  have
• 27:04
  the
• 27:04
  outdoor
• 27:05
  hospitality
• 27:05
  industry
• 27:06
  yet.
• 27:06
  Ruben.
• 27:07
  Good.
• 27:07
  Not
• 27:08
  yet,
• 27:08
  but
• 27:08
  common
• 27:08
  Ruben
• 27:09
  might
• 27:09
  have
• 27:09
  a
• 27:09
  better
• 27:10
  sense
• 27:11
  than
• 27:11
  I
• 27:11
  about
• 27:11
  the
• 27:11
  hotel
• 27:11
  space
• 27:12
  actually.
• 27:14
  No,
• 27:15
  that,
• 27:15
  that's
• 27:15
  a
• 27:15
  good
• 27:15
  question.
• 27:15
  I
• 27:16
  know
• 27:16
  that
• 27:16
  there
• 27:16
  is
• 27:16
  a
• 27:16
  level
• 27:17
  of
• 27:18
  standardization,
• 27:20
  but
• 27:20
  when
• 27:20
  you
• 27:20
  think
• 27:20
  about
• 27:20
  it's
• 27:21
  evolved
• 27:21
  over
• 27:21
  very
• 27:22
  long
• 27:22
  period
• 27:23
  of
• 27:23
  time.
• 27:23
  So
• 27:24
  as
• 27:24
  I
• 27:24
  look
• 27:24
  at
• 27:25
  what
• 27:25
  we
• 27:25
  do
• 27:25
  in
• 27:25
  glamping,
• 27:26
  what
• 27:26
  we
• 27:26
  have
• 27:26
  a
• 27:26
  limited
• 27:27
  amount
• 27:27
  of
• 27:27
  data
• 27:27
  and
• 27:27
  information,
• 27:28
  because
• 27:29
  it's
• 27:29
  something
• 27:29
  that's
• 27:30
  a
• 27:30
  bit
• 27:30
  more,
• 27:31
  in
• 27:31
  recent
• 27:32
  right.
• 27:33
  RVs
• 27:33
  and
• 27:33
  campgrounds
• 27:34
  have
• 27:34
  a
• 27:34
  lot
• 27:34
  more
• 27:35
  data
• 27:35
  and
• 27:35
  a
• 27:35
  lot
• 27:35
  more
• 27:35
  history.
• 27:36
  And
• 27:36
  then
• 27:36
  hotels
• 27:37
  after
• 27:37
  that
• 27:37
  have
• 27:38
  even
• 27:38
  more
• 27:39
  data
• 27:39
  history.
• 27:41
  Standards.
• 27:42
  So
• 27:42
  I
• 27:43
  think
• 27:43
  the
• 27:43
  key
• 27:43
  difference
• 27:43
  is,
• 27:44
  yeah,
• 27:44
  I'm
• 27:44
  certain
• 27:44
  that
• 27:44
  there's
• 27:45
  something
• 27:46
  that
• 27:46
  is
• 27:46
  there
• 27:46
  when
• 27:47
  it
• 27:47
  comes
• 27:47
  to
• 27:47
  building
• 27:48
  development
• 27:49
  and
• 27:49
  items
• 27:50
  like
• 27:50
  that.
• 27:51
  But
• 27:51
  it's
• 27:51
  also
• 27:51
  evolved
• 27:53
  to,
• 27:53
  over
• 27:53
  a
• 27:53
  long
• 27:54
  period
• 27:54
  of
• 27:54
  time
• 27:55
  and
• 27:55
  there
• 27:55
  isn't
• 27:55
  as
• 27:55
  much
• 27:56
  versatility
• 27:56
  to
• 27:56
  it.
• 27:56
  When
• 27:57
  you
• 27:57
  think
• 27:57
  a
• 27:57
  hotel
• 27:57
  is
• 27:57
  a
• 27:58
  hotel,
• 27:58
  when
• 27:58
  you
• 27:58
  think
• 27:58
  of
• 27:58
  it
• 27:59
  from
• 27:59
  a
• 27:59
  development
• 27:59
  standpoint
• 28:00
  in
• 28:01
  RV
• 28:01
  park,
• 28:01
  that's
• 28:01
  in
• 28:02
  Cal
• 28:02
  upstate
• 28:02
  California,
• 28:03
  or
• 28:03
  a
• 28:03
  Campground
• 28:04
  that's
• 28:04
  in
• 28:04
  Southern
• 28:05
  Florida,
• 28:05
  there's
• 28:06
  wildly
• 28:06
  different
• 28:07
  development
• 28:08
  needs
• 28:08
  from
• 28:09
  size
• 28:09
  to
• 28:10
  market
• 28:10
  to
• 28:10
  scope
• 28:10
  to,
• 28:11
  is
• 28:11
  there
• 28:11
  food
• 28:11
  and
• 28:11
  beverage
• 28:12
  and
• 28:12
  maybe
• 28:12
  yes
• 28:12
  or
• 28:12
  no
• 28:13
  swimming
• 28:13
  pool?
• 28:14
  Yes.
• 28:14
  Or
• 28:15
  no
• 28:15
  onsite
• 28:15
  activities
• 28:16
  where
• 28:17
  hotels,
• 28:18
  I
• 28:18
  think
• 28:18
  whatever
• 28:18
  standardization
• 28:19
  does
• 28:20
  exist,
• 28:20
  it
• 28:20
  allows
• 28:21
  for
• 28:21
  it
• 28:21
  because
• 28:22
  it's
• 28:22
  a
• 28:22
  bit
• 28:22
  more
• 28:22
  of
• 28:22
  a
• 28:22
  cookie
• 28:23
  cutter
• 28:23
  approach.
• 28:24
  Yeah.
• 28:24
  Is
• 28:24
  that
• 28:24
  brick
• 28:24
  and
• 28:24
  mortar
• 28:25
  and
• 28:25
  there
• 28:25
  isn't
• 28:25
  that
• 28:26
  need
• 28:26
  for
• 28:26
  versatility
• 28:27
  where
• 28:27
  a
• 28:28
  Campground
• 28:28
  and
• 28:28
  RV
• 28:28
  park,
• 28:29
  AGL
• 28:29
  ground,
• 28:30
  it's
• 28:30
  really
• 28:31
  hard
• 28:31
  to
• 28:31
  shove
• 28:31
  them
• 28:32
  into,
• 28:32
  several
• 28:33
  boxes,
• 28:33
  let
• 28:33
  alone
• 28:34
  one
• 28:35
  box
• 28:36
  that,
• 28:36
  that
• 28:36
  actually
• 28:37
  doesn't
• 28:37
  cause
• 28:38
  more
• 28:38
  problems
• 28:39
  down
• 28:39
  the
• 28:39
  road.
• 28:39
  I
• 28:39
  think
• 28:40
  from
• 28:40
  a
• 28:40
  hotel
• 28:41
  standpoint,
• 28:41
  yes,
• 28:42
  you're
• 28:42
  metropolitan
• 28:43
  you're
• 28:43
  in
• 28:43
  the
• 28:43
  city.
• 28:43
  Here's
• 28:44
  what
• 28:44
  you
• 28:44
  need
• 28:44
  to
• 28:44
  do,
• 28:44
  live
• 28:45
  with
• 28:45
  most
• 28:45
  of
• 28:45
  this.
• 28:45
  And
• 28:46
  then
• 28:46
  you
• 28:46
  can
• 28:46
  do
• 28:46
  your
• 28:46
  own
• 28:46
  thing.
• 28:47
  Can
• 28:48
  you
• 28:48
  take
• 28:48
  that
• 28:48
  stamp
• 28:49
  and
• 28:49
  say,
• 28:49
  great,
• 28:49
  this
• 28:49
  is
• 28:50
  good
• 28:50
  in
• 28:51
  Florida
• 28:51
  and
• 28:51
  Montana.
• 28:52
  And
• 28:53
  whether
• 28:53
  you're
• 28:53
  an
• 28:53
  RV
• 28:53
  park
• 28:54
  or
• 28:54
  resort
• 28:55
  or
• 28:55
  GL
• 28:55
  ground
• 28:56
  or
• 28:56
  mix
• 28:56
  usage,
• 28:58
  I
• 28:58
  don't
• 28:58
  think
• 28:58
  so.
• 28:58
  And
• 28:59
  I
• 28:59
  think
• 28:59
  that
• 28:59
  might
• 28:59
  be
• 29:00
  the
• 29:00
  key
• 29:00
  difference
• 29:01
  and
• 29:01
  will
• 29:01
  be
• 29:01
  fair,
• 29:01
  will
• 29:01
  be
• 29:02
  fair
• 29:02
  to
• 29:02
  RV
• 29:02
  and
• 29:02
  say
• 29:03
  it's
• 29:03
  possible
• 29:03
  that
• 29:03
  they've
• 29:04
  thought
• 29:04
  all
• 29:04
  this
• 29:04
  through.
• 29:04
  It's
• 29:05
  possible
• 29:05
  that
• 29:05
  the
• 29:05
  standards
• 29:06
  that
• 29:06
  they're
• 29:06
  gonna
• 29:06
  come
• 29:07
  up
• 29:07
  with
• 29:07
  are
• 29:07
  going
• 29:07
  to
• 29:08
  be
• 29:08
  regional
• 29:09
  or
• 29:09
  north,
• 29:09
  south,
• 29:10
  east,
• 29:10
  west,
• 29:10
  or
• 29:11
  California
• 29:11
  versus
• 29:12
  Montana,
• 29:12
  they
• 29:12
  could
• 29:13
  be
• 29:13
  working
• 29:13
  on
• 29:13
  those
• 29:13
  things.
• 29:14
  But
• 29:14
  if
• 29:14
  they
• 29:15
  are
• 29:15
  then
• 29:15
  maybe
• 29:16
  they
• 29:16
  should
• 29:16
  communicate
• 29:17
  that
• 29:17
  either
• 29:18
  through
• 29:18
  further
• 29:18
  releases
• 29:19
  or
• 29:19
  announcements
• 29:20
  or
• 29:21
  talking
• 29:21
  to
• 29:21
  those
• 29:21
  independent
• 29:22
  park
• 29:22
  owners,
• 29:23
  because
• 29:23
  there's,
• 29:23
  there
• 29:24
  is
• 29:24
  good
• 29:24
  that
• 29:24
  can
• 29:24
  come
• 29:25
  of
• 29:25
  this.
• 29:26
  It
• 29:26
  just
• 29:26
  depends
• 29:26
  on
• 29:26
  how
• 29:26
  you
• 29:27
  approach
• 29:27
  it
• 29:27
  and
• 29:27
  how
• 29:27
  you
• 29:28
  frame
• 29:28
  it.
• 29:28
  And
• 29:28
  unfortunately,
• 29:29
  we're
• 29:29
  just
• 29:29
  speculating
• 29:30
  here
• 29:30
  because
• 29:30
  we
• 29:30
  don't
• 29:31
  have
• 29:31
  anybody
• 29:31
  from
• 29:32
  national
• 29:32
  Arva
• 29:32
  who's
• 29:33
  willing
• 29:33
  to
• 29:33
  speak
• 29:33
  to
• 29:33
  it.
• 29:34
  Yeah.
• 29:34
  And
• 29:34
  regardless,
• 29:35
  I
• 29:35
  think
• 29:35
  addressing
• 29:36
  that
• 29:36
  small
• 29:36
  mom
• 29:37
  and
• 29:37
  pop
• 29:37
  portion
• 29:38
  that's
• 29:38
  missing
• 29:39
  is
• 29:39
  a
• 29:40
  necessity.
• 29:41
  If
• 29:41
  I
• 29:41
  were
• 29:41
  a
• 29:42
  member
• 29:42
  of
• 29:42
  that
• 29:42
  association
• 29:43
  and
• 29:43
  saw
• 29:44
  the
• 29:44
  list
• 29:44
  of
• 29:44
  taskforce
• 29:45
  participants
• 29:46
  as
• 29:47
  a
• 29:47
  mom
• 29:47
  and
• 29:47
  pop
• 29:47
  park
• 29:48
  owner,
• 29:48
  I
• 29:48
  would
• 29:49
  have,
• 29:50
  I
• 29:50
  would
• 29:50
  express
• 29:50
  the
• 29:51
  expectations
• 29:52
  that
• 29:52
  my
• 29:53
  sector
• 29:53
  of
• 29:54
  the
• 29:54
  market
• 29:55
  was
• 29:55
  able
• 29:55
  to
• 29:55
  have
• 29:56
  a
• 29:56
  voice
• 29:56
  there.
• 29:57
  Go
• 29:57
  ahead,
• 29:58
  Randy.
• 29:58
  I'm
• 29:58
  sorry.
• 29:59
  Yeah.
• 29:59
  Brian,
• 30:00
  you
• 30:00
  just
• 30:00
  had
• 30:00
  a
• 30:00
  mal
• 30:00
  layer
• 30:01
  and
• 30:01
  I
• 30:01
  think
• 30:01
  it
• 30:01
  speaks
• 30:01
  to
• 30:02
  the
• 30:02
  harder,
• 30:03
  the
• 30:03
  reason
• 30:03
  we're
• 30:03
  all
• 30:04
  assembled
• 30:04
  here,
• 30:04
  talking
• 30:05
  about
• 30:05
  this
• 30:05
  in
• 30:05
  a
• 30:06
  kind
• 30:06
  of
• 30:06
  a
• 30:06
  theme
• 30:07
  is
• 30:07
  because
• 30:08
  the
• 30:08
  absence
• 30:08
  of
• 30:08
  information
• 30:09
  or
• 30:09
  communication
• 30:10
  methodology
• 30:11
  and
• 30:11
  the
• 30:11
  direction
• 30:11
  of
• 30:12
  this
• 30:12
  were
• 30:12
  task
• 30:12
  force,
• 30:13
  right?
• 30:13
  If
• 30:14
  it
• 30:14
  was
• 30:14
  accumulated
• 30:15
  easy
• 30:15
  to
• 30:15
  be
• 30:16
  Monday
• 30:17
  morning
• 30:17
  quarterback,
• 30:17
  but
• 30:18
  if
• 30:18
  it
• 30:18
  said
• 30:18
  the
• 30:18
  goal
• 30:19
  is
• 30:19
  this,
• 30:20
  we
• 30:20
  expect
• 30:20
  to
• 30:20
  extremely
• 30:22
  back
• 30:22
  this,
• 30:22
  the
• 30:22
  deliverable
• 30:23
  is
• 30:23
  this.
• 30:24
  Our
• 30:24
  intention
• 30:25
  is
• 30:25
  this.
• 30:26
  We're
• 30:26
  not
• 30:26
  going
• 30:27
  do
• 30:27
  your
• 30:27
  stuff
• 30:27
  and
• 30:27
  just
• 30:28
  provide
• 30:28
  industry
• 30:29
  best.
• 30:29
  We
• 30:29
  gathered
• 30:30
  from
• 30:30
  this
• 30:30
  sample
• 30:32
  for
• 30:32
  you
• 30:32
  to
• 30:32
  apply.
• 30:33
  And
• 30:33
  these
• 30:34
  are
• 30:34
  why
• 30:34
  we
• 30:34
  equal
• 30:34
  for
• 30:35
  these
• 30:35
  specific
• 30:35
  things.
• 30:37
  If
• 30:37
  I
• 30:37
  read
• 30:37
  that,
• 30:38
  then
• 30:38
  I
• 30:38
  understand
• 30:39
  it
• 30:39
  and
• 30:39
  nothing
• 30:39
  about
• 30:39
  it
• 30:39
  today.
• 30:40
  But
• 30:42
  in
• 30:42
  the
• 30:42
  absence
• 30:42
  of
• 30:43
  that,
• 30:43
  it
• 30:43
  was
• 30:43
  just
• 30:43
  like
• 30:43
  bun
• 30:44
  together.
• 30:44
  And
• 30:44
  they're
• 30:45
  gonna
• 30:45
  be
• 30:45
  doing
• 30:45
  this
• 30:46
  task
• 30:47
  force.
• 30:47
  And
• 30:47
  the
• 30:47
  rest
• 30:47
  of
• 30:48
  us
• 30:48
  are
• 30:48
  thinking
• 30:48
  what
• 30:48
  about
• 30:49
  the
• 30:49
  small
• 30:49
  park
• 30:49
  over
• 30:50
  here?
• 30:50
  What
• 30:50
  am
• 30:50
  I
• 30:50
  supposed
• 30:50
  to
• 30:51
  do
• 30:51
  with
• 30:51
  it?
• 30:51
  Communication,
• 30:52
  dressing,
• 30:53
  the
• 30:53
  deliverable
• 30:54
  I
• 30:54
  think
• 30:54
  is
• 30:54
  what's
• 30:54
  happening.
• 30:55
  And
• 30:55
  that's
• 30:55
  part
• 30:55
  of
• 30:55
  the
• 30:55
  reason
• 30:56
  I
• 30:56
  chose
• 30:56
  to
• 30:56
  address
• 30:57
  it
• 30:57
  today
• 30:57
  and
• 30:57
  start
• 30:58
  off
• 30:58
  the
• 30:58
  conversation
• 30:58
  that
• 30:59
  way
• 30:59
  is
• 30:59
  because
• 30:59
  I
• 31:00
  know
• 31:00
  from
• 31:00
  doing
• 31:00
  reviews
• 31:01
  right
• 31:01
  for
• 31:01
  parks
• 31:02
  for
• 31:02
  over
• 31:03
  10
• 31:03
  years,
• 31:04
  that
• 31:04
  95%
• 31:05
  of
• 31:05
  people
• 31:05
  don't
• 31:05
  leave
• 31:05
  their
• 31:05
  feedback
• 31:06
  anywhere
• 31:06
  that
• 31:06
  you
• 31:06
  can
• 31:06
  find
• 31:07
  it
• 31:07
  only
• 31:07
  5%
• 31:08
  do.
• 31:08
  And
• 31:08
  I
• 31:09
  feel
• 31:09
  like
• 31:09
  that's
• 31:09
  probably
• 31:09
  the
• 31:09
  same
• 31:10
  with
• 31:10
  Mark's
• 31:10
  group
• 31:11
  and
• 31:11
  the
• 31:11
  post
• 31:11
  he
• 31:11
  put
• 31:11
  out.
• 31:12
  And
• 31:12
  so
• 31:12
  I
• 31:12
  feel
• 31:13
  like
• 31:13
  the
• 31:13
  pattern
• 31:13
  there
• 31:14
  was
• 31:14
  what's
• 31:15
  happening.
• 31:15
  What's
• 31:15
  going
• 31:16
  on?
• 31:16
  What's
• 31:16
  this
• 31:16
  gonna
• 31:17
  go?
• 31:17
  Is
• 31:17
  it
• 31:17
  more
• 31:17
  regulations?
• 31:18
  What
• 31:19
  are
• 31:19
  the
• 31:19
  ramifications
• 31:19
  of
• 31:20
  this?
• 31:20
  I
• 31:20
  feel
• 31:20
  like
• 31:20
  there's
• 31:20
  a
• 31:20
  whole
• 31:21
  larger
• 31:21
  group
• 31:22
  of
• 31:22
  people
• 31:22
  who
• 31:22
  don't
• 31:23
  comment
• 31:23
  that
• 31:23
  probably
• 31:24
  have
• 31:24
  the
• 31:24
  same
• 31:24
  questions.
• 31:27
  Guys.
• 31:27
  Think
• 31:27
  that
• 31:27
  there's
• 31:27
  no,
• 31:29
  I
• 31:29
  go
• 31:29
  ahead,
• 31:29
  Randy.
• 31:31
  I
• 31:31
  was
• 31:31
  gonna
• 31:31
  say,
• 31:32
  I
• 31:32
  was
• 31:32
  gonna
• 31:33
  say,
• 31:33
  like
• 31:33
  from
• 31:33
  the
• 31:33
  list
• 31:34
  of
• 31:34
  names
• 31:34
  that
• 31:34
  they've
• 31:34
  had
• 31:34
  on
• 31:35
  there,
• 31:35
  participating
• 31:36
  in
• 31:36
  that,
• 31:36
  couple,
• 31:37
  a
• 31:37
  couple
• 31:37
  of
• 31:37
  the
• 31:37
  owners
• 31:38
  of
• 31:38
  those
• 31:38
  parts.
• 31:39
  I
• 31:39
  know
• 31:39
  fairly
• 31:40
  well.
• 31:40
  And
• 31:40
  I
• 31:40
  know
• 31:41
  they,
• 31:41
  they
• 31:41
  started
• 31:42
  with
• 31:43
  fairly
• 31:43
  humble
• 31:43
  roots,
• 31:44
  and
• 31:44
  they
• 31:44
  started
• 31:44
  with
• 31:45
  a
• 31:45
  Campground
• 31:45
  and
• 31:45
  they've
• 31:46
  grown
• 31:46
  them
• 31:46
  over
• 31:46
  time.
• 31:47
  And
• 31:47
  I
• 31:47
  would
• 31:47
  think
• 31:48
  again
• 31:48
  knowing
• 31:48
  a
• 31:48
  couple
• 31:48
  of
• 31:48
  these
• 31:49
  personally
• 31:49
  that
• 31:50
  I
• 31:50
  think
• 31:50
  they
• 31:50
  would
• 31:50
  sympathize
• 31:51
  with
• 31:51
  this
• 31:51
  conversation.
• 31:52
  I
• 31:52
  think
• 31:52
  they
• 31:52
  sympathize
• 31:53
  with
• 31:53
  the
• 31:53
  fact
• 31:53
  that
• 31:54
  they
• 31:54
  that's,
• 31:54
  this
• 31:55
  is
• 31:55
  where
• 31:55
  almost
• 31:55
  every
• 31:56
  Campground
• 31:56
  owner
• 31:57
  until
• 31:57
  recently
• 31:57
  has
• 31:58
  come
• 31:58
  from.
• 31:58
  They
• 31:58
  started.
• 31:59
  25
• 32:00
  or
• 32:00
  50
• 32:00
  sites
• 32:00
  are,
• 32:01
  and
• 32:01
  they've
• 32:01
  grown
• 32:02
  over
• 32:02
  time.
• 32:02
  They've
• 32:02
  bought
• 32:03
  more
• 32:03
  land
• 32:03
  over
• 32:03
  time.
• 32:04
  And
• 32:04
  of
• 32:04
  course
• 32:05
  you
• 32:05
  have,
• 32:05
  some
• 32:05
  larger
• 32:06
  sectors
• 32:06
  coming
• 32:06
  in
• 32:06
  and
• 32:07
  wanting
• 32:07
  all
• 32:07
  of
• 32:08
  that
• 32:08
  and
• 32:08
  more
• 32:08
  land
• 32:09
  to
• 32:09
  continue,
• 32:10
  which
• 32:10
  is
• 32:10
  fine.
• 32:11
  But
• 32:11
  I
• 32:11
  would
• 32:11
  probably
• 32:12
  give
• 32:12
  the
• 32:12
  benefit
• 32:12
  of
• 32:12
  the
• 32:12
  doubt
• 32:13
  that
• 32:13
  that
• 32:13
  they
• 32:13
  understand
• 32:14
  that
• 32:14
  industry.
• 32:14
  When
• 32:15
  you
• 32:15
  talk
• 32:15
  about
• 32:16
  the
• 32:16
  changeover
• 32:17
  of
• 32:17
  larger
• 32:18
  groups
• 32:18
  coming
• 32:18
  in,
• 32:19
  it
• 32:19
  is
• 32:19
  so
• 32:19
  far
• 32:20
  down
• 32:20
  there
• 32:21
  as
• 32:21
  fast
• 32:21
  as
• 32:21
  that
• 32:21
  is
• 32:22
  happening.
• 32:22
  You're
• 32:22
  talking
• 32:23
  tens
• 32:24
  of
• 32:24
  thousands
• 32:25
  of
• 32:25
  parks
• 32:25
  that
• 32:25
  still
• 32:25
  need
• 32:26
  to
• 32:26
  be
• 32:26
  acquired
• 32:27
  for,
• 32:27
  for
• 32:28
  that
• 32:28
  to,
• 32:28
  for
• 32:28
  that
• 32:28
  shift
• 32:29
  to
• 32:29
  happen.
• 32:29
  The
• 32:29
  large
• 32:30
  corporate
• 32:30
  may,
• 32:31
  may
• 32:31
  own
• 32:32
  seven
• 32:32
  to
• 32:33
  9%
• 32:34
  of
• 32:34
  the
• 32:34
  inventory
• 32:34
  now,
• 32:34
  maybe
• 32:35
  there's
• 32:35
  still
• 32:35
  so
• 32:36
  much
• 32:36
  left
• 32:37
  that
• 32:37
  would
• 32:37
  need
• 32:37
  to
• 32:38
  be
• 32:38
  bought
• 32:38
  out
• 32:38
  in
• 32:39
  such
• 32:39
  a
• 32:39
  short
• 32:39
  period
• 32:40
  of
• 32:40
  time.
• 32:40
  For
• 32:41
  that
• 32:41
  I
• 32:41
  think
• 32:41
  the,
• 32:41
  for
• 32:42
  the
• 32:42
  majority
• 32:42
  to
• 32:42
  be
• 32:42
  that
• 32:43
  way.
• 32:44
  And
• 32:44
  so
• 32:44
  to
• 32:44
  me,
• 32:44
  there,
• 32:44
  there
• 32:45
  could
• 32:45
  be
• 32:45
  some
• 32:45
  encouraging
• 32:46
  that
• 32:46
  those
• 32:47
  owners
• 32:47
  that
• 32:47
  are
• 32:47
  coming
• 32:48
  from
• 32:48
  some
• 32:48
  of
• 32:48
  those,
• 32:49
  more
• 32:49
  humble
• 32:49
  roots
• 32:49
  of
• 32:50
  where
• 32:50
  they've
• 32:50
  built
• 32:50
  their
• 32:50
  Campground,
• 32:51
  I,
• 32:51
  I
• 32:51
  would
• 32:51
  hope
• 32:51
  would
• 32:52
  have
• 32:52
  the
• 32:52
  best
• 32:52
  interest
• 32:53
  for
• 32:53
  those
• 32:53
  smaller
• 32:53
  parks.
• 32:54
  You
• 32:54
  would
• 32:54
  hope
• 32:55
  so
• 32:55
  anyways.
• 32:55
  And
• 32:55
  that
• 32:56
  goes
• 32:56
  back
• 32:56
  to
• 32:56
  the,
• 32:57
  I
• 32:57
  led
• 32:57
  off
• 32:57
  the
• 32:57
  show
• 32:57
  by
• 32:58
  saying
• 32:58
  that
• 32:58
  I
• 32:58
  have
• 32:58
  a
• 32:58
  lot
• 32:59
  of
• 32:59
  respect
• 32:59
  for
• 32:59
  everybody
• 33:00
  who's
• 33:00
  been
• 33:00
  nominated
• 33:01
  and
• 33:01
  who's
• 33:01
  a
• 33:01
  part
• 33:01
  of
• 33:01
  that
• 33:02
  task
• 33:02
  force
• 33:02
  and
• 33:02
  you're
• 33:02
  right.
• 33:03
  Casey.
• 33:03
  I
• 33:03
  think
• 33:03
  they
• 33:03
  do
• 33:04
  have,
• 33:04
  at
• 33:05
  least
• 33:05
  some
• 33:05
  of
• 33:05
  them
• 33:05
  probably
• 33:06
  have
• 33:06
  the
• 33:06
  best,
• 33:06
  but
• 33:06
  we
• 33:07
  don't
• 33:07
  know
• 33:08
  nobody's
• 33:08
  communicating
• 33:08
  with
• 33:09
  us.
• 33:09
  And
• 33:09
  nobody's
• 33:09
  saying
• 33:10
  who
• 33:10
  is
• 33:10
  the
• 33:10
  decision
• 33:10
  maker?
• 33:11
  Is
• 33:11
  it
• 33:11
  equal
• 33:11
  vote?
• 33:12
  Is
• 33:12
  it
• 33:12
  a
• 33:12
  democracy?
• 33:13
  Is
• 33:13
  it,
• 33:13
  ultimately
• 33:14
  AIC
• 33:14
  is
• 33:15
  gonna
• 33:15
  overrule
• 33:15
  and
• 33:16
  decide
• 33:16
  whatever
• 33:16
  they
• 33:16
  want.
• 33:17
  Like
• 33:17
  we
• 33:17
  just
• 33:17
  need
• 33:17
  some
• 33:17
  communication
• 33:18
  and
• 33:18
  some
• 33:18
  understanding
• 33:19
  cuz
• 33:19
  I
• 33:19
  think
• 33:20
  you're
• 33:20
  right.
• 33:20
  But
• 33:21
  I
• 33:21
  don't
• 33:21
  know.
• 33:22
  Sure.
• 33:25
  Or
• 33:25
  I
• 33:25
  hope
• 33:25
  you're
• 33:26
  right.
• 33:26
  Maybe.
• 33:26
  A
• 33:26
  lot
• 33:26
  of
• 33:26
  the
• 33:27
  feedback,
• 33:27
  lot
• 33:27
  of
• 33:28
  the
• 33:28
  feedback
• 33:28
  in
• 33:28
  Mark's
• 33:29
  group
• 33:29
  really
• 33:30
  brings
• 33:30
  us
• 33:31
  a
• 33:31
  bear
• 33:31
  because
• 33:32
  Campground
• 33:33
  owners
• 33:33
  that
• 33:33
  are
• 33:33
  in
• 33:34
  that
• 33:34
  thread.
• 33:36
  That
• 33:36
  had
• 33:36
  some
• 33:37
  pretty
• 33:37
  strong
• 33:37
  out
• 33:37
  how
• 33:37
  they
• 33:38
  view
• 33:38
  this,
• 33:38
  but
• 33:38
  again,
• 33:39
  in
• 33:39
  the
• 33:39
  absence
• 33:39
  of
• 33:40
  information,
• 33:41
  there's
• 33:41
  speculation.
• 33:42
  When
• 33:42
  you,
• 33:43
  sometimes
• 33:43
  you
• 33:43
  assume
• 33:44
  the
• 33:44
  worst,
• 33:45
  this
• 33:45
  good
• 33:46
  thing
• 33:46
  that's
• 33:46
  happened
• 33:47
  in
• 33:47
  the
• 33:47
  millennial.
• 33:48
  We
• 33:48
  know
• 33:48
  we
• 33:48
  just
• 33:48
  don't
• 33:49
  know
• 33:49
  what
• 33:49
  it
• 33:49
  is
• 33:49
  and
• 33:49
  why
• 33:49
  they're
• 33:50
  doing
• 33:50
  it.
• 33:50
  And
• 33:50
  that's
• 33:50
  the
• 33:51
  part
• 33:51
  you
• 33:51
  thread
• 33:52
  was
• 33:52
  very
• 33:52
  enlightening
• 33:53
  because
• 33:54
  if
• 33:54
  that's
• 33:54
  the
• 33:54
  perception,
• 33:55
  and
• 33:55
  to
• 33:56
  that,
• 33:56
  Randy,
• 33:56
  I
• 33:56
  was
• 33:57
  actually
• 33:57
  surprised
• 33:57
  at
• 33:58
  the
• 33:58
  responses
• 33:58
  a
• 33:58
  little
• 33:59
  bit
• 33:59
  that
• 33:59
  they
• 33:59
  were
• 34:00
  so
• 34:01
  in
• 34:01
  the
• 34:01
  tone
• 34:02
  manner
• 34:02
  in
• 34:02
  which
• 34:03
  they
• 34:03
  were
• 34:03
  it
• 34:04
  just
• 34:04
  and
• 34:04
  again,
• 34:05
  the
• 34:05
  whole
• 34:05
  reason
• 34:05
  I
• 34:05
  posted
• 34:06
  it
• 34:06
  is
• 34:06
  obviously
• 34:06
  it's
• 34:06
  important.
• 34:07
  I
• 34:07
  thought
• 34:07
  people
• 34:07
  should
• 34:07
  know
• 34:08
  that
• 34:08
  was
• 34:08
  happening.
• 34:09
  And
• 34:09
  the
• 34:09
  number
• 34:10
  two,
• 34:10
  the
• 34:10
  claim,
• 34:10
  just
• 34:11
  the
• 34:11
  claim
• 34:11
  and
• 34:11
  the
• 34:11
  release.
• 34:12
  Again,
• 34:12
  I
• 34:12
  go
• 34:12
  back
• 34:12
  to
• 34:12
  that
• 34:12
  number.
• 34:13
  It
• 34:13
  claim
• 34:13
  that
• 34:13
  they
• 34:13
  represented
• 34:14
  13,000
• 34:14
  campgrounds.
• 34:15
  And
• 34:15
  if
• 34:15
  you're
• 34:15
  going
• 34:16
  in,
• 34:16
  if
• 34:16
  that's
• 34:16
  the
• 34:16
  goal,
• 34:17
  if
• 34:17
  that's
• 34:17
  the
• 34:17
  thought
• 34:17
  pattern
• 34:17
  that
• 34:18
  you
• 34:18
  actually
• 34:18
  represent
• 34:18
  13,000
• 34:19
  campgrounds,
• 34:20
  you're
• 34:20
  gonna
• 34:20
  make
• 34:20
  decisions.
• 34:21
  Based
• 34:21
  upon
• 34:21
  that
• 34:21
  I
• 34:21
  wanna
• 34:21
  make
• 34:22
  it
• 34:22
  clear.
• 34:22
  A
• 34:22
  R
• 34:22
  C
• 34:23
  does
• 34:23
  not
• 34:23
  represent
• 34:24
  13,000
• 34:24
  campgrounds
• 34:25
  in
• 34:25
  the
• 34:25
  United
• 34:25
  States.
• 34:26
  They
• 34:26
  don't.
• 34:27
  Flat
• 34:27
  out
• 34:27
  don't
• 34:27
  so
• 34:28
  that
• 34:28
  was
• 34:28
  a,
• 34:28
  that
• 34:28
  was
• 34:28
  my
• 34:29
  big
• 34:29
  call
• 34:29
  to
• 34:29
  action
• 34:29
  there.
• 34:30
  And
• 34:30
  that
• 34:30
  was
• 34:30
  again,
• 34:31
  the
• 34:31
  responses
• 34:31
  to
• 34:31
  that
• 34:32
  post
• 34:32
  were
• 34:32
  not
• 34:33
  positive.
• 34:34
  They
• 34:34
  were,
• 34:34
  some
• 34:34
  were
• 34:34
  hopeful,
• 34:35
  but
• 34:35
  most
• 34:35
  of
• 34:35
  them
• 34:35
  were
• 34:35
  pretty
• 34:35
  negative
• 34:36
  and
• 34:36
  could
• 34:36
  what
• 34:37
  Cara
• 34:37
  said
• 34:37
  about,
• 34:38
  Hey,
• 34:38
  there's
• 34:38
  no
• 34:38
  small
• 34:39
  park
• 34:39
  owners
• 34:39
  on
• 34:39
  this.
• 34:40
  Yeah.
• 34:40
  And
• 34:41
  again,
• 34:41
  it's
• 34:41
  perception.
• 34:42
  And
• 34:42
  so
• 34:43
  I
• 34:43
  feel
• 34:43
  like
• 34:43
  that's,
• 34:43
  what's
• 34:44
  lacking
• 34:44
  here
• 34:44
  is
• 34:44
  national
• 34:45
  Arabic
• 34:45
  does
• 34:45
  have
• 34:46
  an
• 34:46
  opportunity
• 34:46
  to
• 34:46
  come
• 34:46
  out
• 34:47
  and
• 34:47
  clarify
• 34:47
  this.
• 34:48
  They
• 34:48
  did
• 34:48
  have
• 34:48
  an
• 34:48
  opportunity
• 34:49
  to
• 34:49
  word
• 34:49
  their
• 34:49
  press
• 34:49
  with
• 34:50
  these
• 34:50
  different,
• 34:51
  like
• 34:51
  we're,
• 34:51
  I'm
• 34:52
  happy
• 34:52
  to
• 34:52
  talk
• 34:52
  to
• 34:52
  them
• 34:53
  and
• 34:53
  give
• 34:53
  them
• 34:53
  a
• 34:53
  voice
• 34:54
  and
• 34:54
  give
• 34:54
  them,
• 34:54
  share
• 34:55
  their
• 34:55
  thoughts
• 34:55
  and
• 34:56
  maybe
• 34:56
  we
• 34:56
  are
• 34:56
  wrong,
• 34:57
  but
• 34:57
  I
• 34:57
  can't
• 34:57
  make
• 34:58
  them
• 34:58
  communicate
• 34:59
  with
• 34:59
  us
• 34:59
  or
• 34:59
  make
• 34:59
  them
• 35:00
  communicate
• 35:00
  with
• 35:00
  owners
• 35:01
  or
• 35:01
  make
• 35:01
  them
• 35:01
  communicate
• 35:01
  better.
• 35:02
  I
• 35:02
  think
• 35:02
  there,
• 35:03
  the
• 35:03
  obvious
• 35:04
  reaction
• 35:05
  from
• 35:05
  people
• 35:05
  in
• 35:06
  on
• 35:06
  Mark's
• 35:06
  post
• 35:07
  and
• 35:07
  probably
• 35:08
  I'm
• 35:08
  sure
• 35:08
  it's
• 35:08
  not
• 35:09
  the
• 35:09
  only
• 35:09
  place
• 35:09
  that
• 35:09
  they're
• 35:10
  hearing
• 35:10
  that
• 35:10
  stuff
• 35:10
  will.
• 35:11
  Be
• 35:12
  a
• 35:12
  good
• 35:12
  motivator
• 35:13
  for
• 35:13
  them
• 35:13
  to
• 35:14
  address
• 35:14
  the
• 35:15
  questions
• 35:16
  coming
• 35:16
  out.
• 35:16
  I,
• 35:17
  I
• 35:17
  think
• 35:17
  time
• 35:19
  the
• 35:19
  press
• 35:19
  release
• 35:20
  came
• 35:20
  out
• 35:20
  yesterday.
• 35:20
  No,
• 35:21
  yes.
• 35:22
  I
• 35:22
  think
• 35:22
  two
• 35:22
  days
• 35:22
  ago.
• 35:23
  Oh,
• 35:23
  two
• 35:23
  days
• 35:23
  ago.
• 35:24
  Okay.
• 35:24
  Okay.
• 35:25
  Give
• 35:25
  them
• 35:25
  some
• 35:25
  time
• 35:27
  to
• 35:27
  formulate
• 35:27
  the
• 35:28
  language.
• 35:28
  There's
• 35:28
  a
• 35:28
  pause
• 35:29
  out
• 35:29
  of
• 35:29
  all
• 35:29
  this
• 35:30
  stuff.
• 35:31
  With
• 35:31
  my
• 35:31
  businesses,
• 35:32
  if
• 35:32
  somebody
• 35:32
  says,
• 35:33
  gee,
• 35:33
  Randy,
• 35:34
  you're
• 35:34
  up
• 35:34
  in
• 35:35
  the
• 35:35
  clouds
• 35:35
  again,
• 35:36
  that
• 35:36
  may
• 35:36
  be
• 35:36
  the
• 35:36
  single
• 35:37
  w
• 35:37
  I
• 35:38
  have
• 35:38
  heard
• 35:38
  in
• 35:38
  my
• 35:38
  lifetime.
• 35:40
  I'm
• 35:41
  really
• 35:41
  to
• 35:41
  hear
• 35:41
  it
• 35:41
  because
• 35:42
  okay,
• 35:42
  getting
• 35:42
  the
• 35:42
  reality
• 35:43
  check.
• 35:43
  That's
• 35:43
  what
• 35:44
  I
• 35:44
  need.
• 35:45
  If
• 35:45
  I'm
• 35:46
  AIC,
• 35:46
  I
• 35:46
  hope
• 35:47
  I'm
• 35:47
  wo
• 35:48
  and
• 35:48
  the
• 35:48
  takeaway
• 35:50
  is
• 35:50
  not
• 35:50
  working,
• 35:50
  trying
• 35:50
  to
• 35:51
  tear
• 35:51
  them
• 35:51
  down
• 35:51
  to
• 35:51
  their
• 35:52
  rafter,
• 35:52
  where
• 35:53
  you
• 35:53
  have
• 35:53
  a
• 35:53
  perception
• 35:54
  issue
• 35:55
  and
• 35:55
  a
• 35:55
  messaging
• 35:55
  issue.
• 35:56
  And
• 35:56
  I
• 35:56
  hope
• 35:57
  they
• 35:57
  would
• 35:57
  destructive
• 35:58
  and
• 35:58
  helpful
• 35:58
  and
• 35:59
  beneficial
• 36:00
  to
• 36:00
  the
• 36:00
  crafting
• 36:01
  their
• 36:01
  future
• 36:01
  messages
• 36:02
  and
• 36:02
  reach
• 36:02
  constructive
• 36:03
  manner
• 36:03
  and
• 36:03
  defining
• 36:03
  their
• 36:04
  objectives.
• 36:05
  It's.
• 36:05
  This
• 36:05
  is
• 36:06
  not
• 36:06
  less
• 36:06
  slam
• 36:06
  it's
• 36:07
  about,
• 36:07
  Hey,
• 36:07
  we
• 36:07
  want
• 36:08
  to
• 36:08
  help.
• 36:09
  So
• 36:09
  are
• 36:10
  you
• 36:10
  hearing
• 36:10
  us?
• 36:11
  Mark's
• 36:11
  great,
• 36:11
  I
• 36:11
  think
• 36:11
  that's
• 36:12
  very,
• 36:12
  I
• 36:12
  hope
• 36:13
  that's
• 36:13
  very
• 36:13
  clear
• 36:14
  that's
• 36:14
  the
• 36:14
  intention.
• 36:15
  We
• 36:15
  just
• 36:15
  need
• 36:15
  to
• 36:15
  hear
• 36:15
  from
• 36:16
  them
• 36:16
  and
• 36:16
  hear
• 36:16
  their
• 36:16
  side.
• 36:17
  And
• 36:17
  our
• 36:17
  intention
• 36:18
  is
• 36:18
  not
• 36:18
  to
• 36:18
  say
• 36:19
  we're
• 36:19
  right.
• 36:19
  Like
• 36:20
  what
• 36:20
  we're
• 36:20
  saying
• 36:20
  here
• 36:20
  might
• 36:21
  not
• 36:21
  be
• 36:21
  right.
• 36:21
  We're
• 36:22
  we
• 36:22
  certainly
• 36:22
  don't
• 36:23
  speak
• 36:23
  for
• 36:23
  the
• 36:23
  industry
• 36:23
  either,
• 36:24
  but
• 36:25
  we've
• 36:25
  seen
• 36:25
  a
• 36:25
  difference
• 36:26
  of
• 36:26
  opinions
• 36:27
  in
• 36:27
  the
• 36:28
  Facebook
• 36:28
  group.
• 36:28
  We've
• 36:29
  obviously
• 36:29
  got
• 36:29
  our
• 36:29
  own
• 36:30
  opinions
• 36:30
  here.
• 36:31
  We've
• 36:31
  seen
• 36:31
  what
• 36:31
  Avi's
• 36:31
  opinions
• 36:32
  are.
• 36:32
  At
• 36:32
  least
• 36:32
  the
• 36:32
  very
• 36:33
  limited,
• 36:33
  opinions
• 36:33
  that
• 36:34
  are
• 36:34
  stated
• 36:34
  in
• 36:34
  the
• 36:34
  press
• 36:34
  release
• 36:35
  or
• 36:35
  facts.
• 36:36
  And
• 36:36
  so
• 36:36
  we
• 36:36
  just
• 36:36
  need
• 36:37
  to
• 36:37
  bring
• 36:37
  those
• 36:37
  ideas
• 36:38
  together
• 36:38
  and
• 36:39
  maybe
• 36:39
  not
• 36:40
  decide
• 36:40
  for
• 36:40
  the
• 36:40
  entire
• 36:41
  industry,
• 36:41
  but
• 36:41
  figure
• 36:41
  out
• 36:41
  a
• 36:41
  path
• 36:42
  forward
• 36:42
  that
• 36:42
  it
• 36:42
  is
• 36:42
  inclusive
• 36:44
  of
• 36:44
  everyone's
• 36:44
  opinion.
• 36:46
  Yeah.
• 36:46
  Think
• 36:46
  it's
• 36:47
  valuable
• 36:47
  to
• 36:47
  set
• 36:47
  reasonable
• 36:48
  expectations
• 36:49
  in
• 36:49
  any
• 36:49
  sort
• 36:49
  of
• 36:50
  relationship.
• 36:50
  And
• 36:50
  so
• 36:51
  communicating
• 36:52
  them
• 36:52
  is
• 36:52
  a
• 36:52
  necessity.
• 36:53
  did
• 36:53
  get
• 36:54
  this
• 36:54
  sense
• 36:54
  from
• 36:54
  some
• 36:54
  of
• 36:55
  those
• 36:55
  posts
• 36:55
  that
• 36:55
  you
• 36:55
  would
• 36:56
  do
• 36:56
  as
• 36:56
  it.
• 36:56
  Is
• 36:57
  this
• 36:57
  area
• 36:57
  immediately
• 36:58
  go,
• 36:58
  how's
• 36:58
  this
• 36:59
  going
• 36:59
  to
• 36:59
  impact
• 36:59
  me?
• 37:00
  How
• 37:00
  do,
• 37:00
  how
• 37:00
  should
• 37:01
  I
• 37:01
  react
• 37:01
  to
• 37:01
  this?
• 37:02
  What's
• 37:03
  my,
• 37:03
  here's
• 37:04
  my
• 37:04
  gut
• 37:04
  instinct
• 37:05
  stuff.
• 37:05
  And
• 37:06
  yeah,
• 37:06
  it
• 37:06
  needs
• 37:06
  addressing
• 37:07
  for
• 37:07
  sure.
• 37:10
  All
• 37:10
  right.
• 37:11
  We
• 37:11
  spent
• 37:11
  41
• 37:12
  minutes
• 37:12
  and
• 37:13
  19
• 37:13
  20,
• 37:14
  21
• 37:14
  seconds
• 37:14
  on
• 37:15
  that.
• 37:15
  So
• 37:15
  what
• 37:16
  else
• 37:16
  is
• 37:16
  on
• 37:16
  your
• 37:16
  desk?
• 37:17
  Let's
• 37:17
  pivot
• 37:17
  away
• 37:17
  from
• 37:18
  that
• 37:18
  for
• 37:18
  a
• 37:18
  second.
• 37:18
  What
• 37:18
  else
• 37:18
  has
• 37:19
  come
• 37:19
  across
• 37:19
  your
• 37:19
  desk
• 37:19
  in
• 37:19
  the
• 37:20
  last
• 37:20
  month
• 37:20
  or
• 37:20
  so?
• 37:20
  Since
• 37:20
  we've
• 37:21
  had
• 37:21
  a
• 37:21
  chance
• 37:21
  to
• 37:21
  connect,
• 37:22
  I
• 37:22
  know
• 37:22
  Casey's
• 37:22
  been
• 37:22
  missing
• 37:23
  from
• 37:23
  the
• 37:23
  show
• 37:23
  for
• 37:23
  a
• 37:23
  couple
• 37:24
  times
• 37:24
  and
• 37:24
  been
• 37:24
  busy.
• 37:24
  But
• 37:24
  anybody
• 37:25
  else
• 37:25
  have
• 37:25
  anything
• 37:25
  that
• 37:26
  they
• 37:26
  feel
• 37:26
  is
• 37:26
  relevant
• 37:26
  and
• 37:26
  should
• 37:27
  be
• 37:27
  brought
• 37:27
  up
• 37:27
  here?
• 37:27
  wanted,
• 37:28
  if
• 37:28
  I
• 37:28
  could
• 37:28
  jump
• 37:28
  in.
• 37:29
  So
• 37:29
  if
• 37:29
  you
• 37:29
  remember,
• 37:29
  I've
• 37:29
  had
• 37:30
  previous
• 37:30
  conversations
• 37:30
  about
• 37:31
  the
• 37:31
  rising
• 37:31
  fuel
• 37:31
  prices
• 37:32
  impacts
• 37:32
  of
• 37:32
  inflation
• 37:33
  on
• 37:33
  travel.
• 37:34
  We're
• 37:34
  now
• 37:34
  far
• 37:34
  enough
• 37:35
  in
• 37:35
  where
• 37:35
  we're
• 37:35
  actually
• 37:35
  seeing
• 37:35
  the
• 37:36
  outcome
• 37:36
  of
• 37:36
  these
• 37:37
  changes
• 37:37
  and
• 37:37
  the
• 37:37
  consumers
• 37:38
  have
• 37:38
  changed
• 37:39
  significantly.
• 37:40
  Their
• 37:40
  travel
• 37:40
  trends,
• 37:41
  obviously
• 37:41
  staying
• 37:41
  closer
• 37:42
  to
• 37:42
  home,
• 37:42
  not
• 37:42
  going
• 37:42
  on
• 37:43
  the
• 37:43
  longer
• 37:43
  distance
• 37:43
  journeys,
• 37:44
  but
• 37:44
  what's
• 37:45
  very
• 37:45
  rewarding
• 37:46
  for
• 37:46
  our
• 37:46
  industry
• 37:46
  is
• 37:46
  that
• 37:47
  people
• 37:47
  are
• 37:47
  still
• 37:47
  traveling.
• 37:48
  They're
• 37:48
  still
• 37:48
  Camping.
• 37:49
  The
• 37:49
  camp.
• 37:50
  In
• 37:50
  general
• 37:50
  are
• 37:50
  doing
• 37:51
  well.
• 37:51
  Now
• 37:51
  there
• 37:51
  are
• 37:51
  some
• 37:52
  parks
• 37:52
  that
• 37:53
  are
• 37:53
  still
• 37:53
  struggling
• 37:53
  that
• 37:54
  are
• 37:54
  along
• 37:54
  those
• 37:55
  long
• 37:55
  distance
• 37:55
  routes
• 37:55
  or
• 37:56
  far
• 37:56
  away
• 37:56
  from
• 37:56
  population
• 37:57
  centers.
• 37:57
  Those
• 37:57
  areas,
• 37:58
  those
• 37:58
  parks
• 37:58
  are
• 37:58
  definitely
• 37:59
  feeling
• 37:59
  it.
• 37:59
  But
• 37:59
  the
• 37:59
  good
• 37:59
  trend
• 38:00
  is
• 38:00
  that
• 38:00
  we
• 38:00
  are
• 38:00
  seeing
• 38:01
  people
• 38:01
  Camping
• 38:01
  and
• 38:02
  traveling.
• 38:02
  I'm
• 38:03
  on
• 38:03
  a
• 38:03
  journey
• 38:03
  right
• 38:03
  now,
• 38:04
  back
• 38:04
  east
• 38:04
  again.
• 38:05
  And
• 38:05
  I
• 38:05
  was
• 38:05
  just
• 38:05
  on
• 38:05
  the
• 38:06
  interstate
• 38:06
  yesterday
• 38:06
  and
• 38:06
  it
• 38:06
  was
• 38:07
  just
• 38:07
  a
• 38:07
  Searl
• 38:07
  of
• 38:08
  RVs
• 38:08
  on
• 38:08
  the,
• 38:08
  on
• 38:08
  the
• 38:08
  interstate,
• 38:08
  not
• 38:09
  the
• 38:09
  ones
• 38:09
  being
• 38:09
  delivered
• 38:10
  to
• 38:10
  dealerships,
• 38:10
  but
• 38:10
  actually
• 38:11
  people
• 38:11
  using
• 38:11
  them
• 38:11
  going
• 38:12
  someplace
• 38:12
  to
• 38:12
  go
• 38:12
  Camping
• 38:13
  with
• 38:13
  those
• 38:13
  RVs.
• 38:14
  So
• 38:14
  it's
• 38:14
  nice
• 38:14
  to
• 38:14
  see
• 38:15
  that
• 38:15
  the
• 38:15
  resiliency
• 38:16
  of
• 38:16
  our
• 38:16
  industry
• 38:16
  is
• 38:16
  showing
• 38:17
  forth
• 38:17
  right
• 38:17
  now
• 38:18
  in
• 38:18
  the
• 38:18
  face
• 38:18
  of
• 38:18
  all
• 38:19
  the
• 38:19
  noise
• 38:20
  that
• 38:20
  is
• 38:20
  out
• 38:20
  there.
• 38:20
  And
• 38:20
  that
• 38:21
  I
• 38:21
  just
• 38:21
  wanna
• 38:22
  set
• 38:22
  in
• 38:22
  everybody's
• 38:22
  mind,
• 38:23
  it's
• 38:23
  getting
• 38:23
  noisy
• 38:24
  again,
• 38:25
  and
• 38:25
  we're
• 38:25
  now
• 38:26
  going
• 38:26
  into
• 38:26
  these
• 38:26
  midterm
• 38:27
  elections
• 38:27
  and
• 38:27
  then
• 38:27
  we
• 38:28
  have
• 38:28
  a
• 38:28
  ramp
• 38:28
  up
• 38:28
  into
• 38:28
  the
• 38:29
  presidential
• 38:29
  election.
• 38:30
  I'm
• 38:30
  already
• 38:30
  banking
• 38:31
  on
• 38:31
  two
• 38:31
  and
• 38:31
  a
• 38:31
  half
• 38:31
  years
• 38:32
  of
• 38:32
  nuts.
• 38:32
  So
• 38:33
  enjoy
• 38:33
  the
• 38:33
  summer.
• 38:34
  It's
• 38:34
  only
• 38:34
  gonna
• 38:34
  get
• 38:34
  crazier.
• 38:37
  One
• 38:37
  of
• 38:38
  the
• 38:38
  things
• 38:38
  that
• 38:38
  I
• 38:38
  found
• 38:39
  really
• 38:39
  interesting
• 38:39
  over
• 38:40
  the
• 38:40
  last
• 38:40
  few
• 38:40
  weeks
• 38:41
  was
• 38:41
  the
• 38:41
  impact
• 38:43
  that
• 38:43
  the
• 38:43
  airlines
• 38:44
  strike
• 38:45
  and
• 38:45
  people
• 38:45
  and
• 38:45
  all
• 38:45
  the
• 38:46
  different
• 38:46
  cancellation
• 38:47
  of
• 38:47
  flights
• 38:47
  and
• 38:47
  all
• 38:47
  that,
• 38:48
  and
• 38:48
  how
• 38:48
  that
• 38:49
  had
• 38:49
  an
• 38:49
  immediate
• 38:50
  impact
• 38:51
  on
• 38:51
  reservations
• 38:52
  in
• 38:52
  campgrounds.
• 38:53
  So
• 38:53
  for
• 38:54
  all
• 38:55
  the
• 38:55
  different
• 38:55
  people
• 38:55
  I
• 38:55
  work
• 38:56
  with
• 38:56
  that
• 38:56
  are
• 38:56
  providing
• 38:56
  stats
• 38:57
  back
• 38:57
  to
• 38:57
  us,
• 38:58
  we
• 38:58
  also
• 38:58
  did
• 38:58
  a
• 38:58
  really
• 38:59
  quick,
• 38:59
  like
• 38:59
  3000
• 39:00
  person
• 39:00
  survey.
• 39:01
  And
• 39:02
  people
• 39:03
  were
• 39:03
  saying
• 39:03
  that
• 39:04
  before,
• 39:05
  what
• 39:05
  happened
• 39:05
  with
• 39:05
  the
• 39:05
  airlines?
• 39:06
  They
• 39:06
  were
• 39:06
  considering
• 39:07
  selling
• 39:07
  their
• 39:07
  rig.
• 39:08
  Now
• 39:08
  they're
• 39:08
  scared
• 39:09
  again,
• 39:09
  and
• 39:09
  they're
• 39:09
  keeping
• 39:10
  their
• 39:10
  rigs
• 39:10
  cuz
• 39:11
  they
• 39:11
  wanna
• 39:11
  be
• 39:11
  able
• 39:11
  to
• 39:11
  vacation
• 39:12
  and
• 39:12
  they're
• 39:12
  not
• 39:13
  gonna
• 39:13
  trust
• 39:13
  the
• 39:13
  airlines.
• 39:14
  And
• 39:14
  so
• 39:14
  that
• 39:15
  was
• 39:15
  another
• 39:15
  really
• 39:16
  good
• 39:16
  thing
• 39:16
  for
• 39:16
  our
• 39:16
  industry.
• 39:17
  I
• 39:17
  hate
• 39:18
  it
• 39:18
  for
• 39:18
  the
• 39:18
  airline
• 39:18
  industry,
• 39:19
  but
• 39:19
  I
• 39:19
  love
• 39:19
  it
• 39:19
  for
• 39:20
  us
• 39:20
  because
• 39:21
  it's
• 39:21
  given
• 39:21
  people
• 39:22
  those
• 39:22
  reasons
• 39:22
  to
• 39:23
  keep
• 39:23
  those
• 39:23
  campers
• 39:24
  and
• 39:24
  keep
• 39:24
  Camping.
• 39:27
  Okay.
• 39:27
  Anybody
• 39:27
  else
• 39:28
  have
• 39:28
  anything
• 39:28
  to
• 39:28
  add
• 39:28
  before
• 39:29
  I'll
• 39:29
  throw
• 39:29
  in
• 39:29
  a
• 39:29
  random
• 39:29
  topic
• 39:30
  if
• 39:30
  nobody
• 39:30
  else
• 39:30
  has
• 39:30
  anything?
• 39:31
  I
• 39:31
  got
• 39:31
  one.
• 39:32
  I
• 39:32
  got.
• 39:33
  One,
• 39:33
  if
• 39:33
  you
• 39:33
  don't
• 39:33
  mind.
• 39:34
  Yeah.
• 39:34
  Yeah.
• 39:35
  Question
• 39:36
  for
• 39:36
  you.
• 39:36
  Good,
• 39:36
  sir,
• 39:37
  with
• 39:37
  the
• 39:37
  glamping
• 39:39
  industry
• 39:39
  I
• 39:40
  have
• 39:40
  this
• 39:40
  thesis
• 39:41
  that
• 39:41
  during
• 39:42
  economic
• 39:43
  down
• 39:43
  times,
• 39:44
  it
• 39:44
  isn't
• 39:44
  just,
• 39:44
  that
• 39:44
  makes
• 39:45
  you
• 39:45
  decide
• 39:45
  to
• 39:45
  go
• 39:45
  this
• 39:46
  way
• 39:47
  that
• 39:47
  although
• 39:48
  sometimes
• 39:48
  it
• 39:48
  is
• 39:49
  it's
• 39:49
  how
• 39:50
  the
• 39:50
  economy
• 39:50
  in
• 39:50
  general,
• 39:51
  do
• 39:51
  I
• 39:51
  feel
• 39:52
  like
• 39:52
  a
• 39:52
  confident
• 39:52
  consumer
• 39:53
  gas
• 39:54
  being
• 39:54
  part
• 39:54
  of
• 39:54
  it,
• 39:54
  inflation
• 39:55
  being
• 39:55
  another
• 39:55
  huge
• 39:57
  part
• 39:57
  of
• 39:57
  that.
• 39:57
  Do
• 39:57
  you
• 39:58
  think
• 39:58
  there's
• 39:58
  more
• 39:59
  glamping
• 39:59
  segment
• 40:00
  as
• 40:00
  there
• 40:00
  is
• 40:00
  in
• 40:01
  RV
• 40:02
  outdoor
• 40:02
  hospitality
• 40:03
  to
• 40:03
  make
• 40:03
  real,
• 40:04
  have
• 40:04
  a
• 40:04
  very
• 40:05
  good
• 40:05
  experience?
• 40:07
  Once
• 40:07
  they
• 40:07
  do
• 40:07
  arrive,
• 40:08
  is
• 40:08
  the
• 40:08
  emphasis
• 40:09
  on
• 40:09
  even
• 40:10
  greater
• 40:10
  than
• 40:10
  maybe
• 40:11
  it
• 40:11
  was
• 40:12
  without
• 40:12
  an
• 40:12
  economic
• 40:13
  crisis?
• 40:15
  Yeah.
• 40:15
  That's
• 40:15
  a
• 40:16
  really
• 40:16
  good
• 40:16
  question.
• 40:16
  And
• 40:16
  I
• 40:16
  think,
• 40:17
  that
• 40:17
  could
• 40:17
  definitely
• 40:18
  transition
• 40:19
  over
• 40:19
  to
• 40:19
  all
• 40:19
  of
• 40:20
  outdoors
• 40:21
  in,
• 40:21
  in
• 40:21
  general
• 40:21
  and
• 40:21
  what's
• 40:22
  gonna
• 40:22
  happen
• 40:22
  over
• 40:22
  the
• 40:23
  next
• 40:23
  two
• 40:23
  or
• 40:23
  three
• 40:23
  years
• 40:24
  with.
• 40:24
  That
• 40:25
  volatility
• 40:25
  that
• 40:26
  Mark's
• 40:26
  talking
• 40:26
  about
• 40:27
  because
• 40:27
  we,
• 40:27
  we
• 40:27
  talk
• 40:27
  about,
• 40:28
  looming
• 40:28
  recession,
• 40:29
  we
• 40:29
  talk
• 40:29
  about
• 40:29
  gas
• 40:29
  prices.
• 40:30
  We
• 40:30
  talk
• 40:30
  about
• 40:30
  all
• 40:30
  these
• 40:30
  things
• 40:31
  that
• 40:31
  are
• 40:31
  unknowns.
• 40:32
  So
• 40:32
  I
• 40:32
  like
• 40:33
  to
• 40:33
  just
• 40:33
  pivot
• 40:33
  back
• 40:33
  to
• 40:34
  what
• 40:34
  is
• 40:34
  known,
• 40:35
  business
• 40:35
  travel
• 40:35
  has
• 40:36
  bounced
• 40:36
  back
• 40:36
  a
• 40:36
  little
• 40:36
  bit,
• 40:36
  but
• 40:37
  not
• 40:37
  a
• 40:37
  hundred
• 40:37
  percent
• 40:38
  international
• 40:39
  travels
• 40:39
  bounce
• 40:39
  back
• 40:40
  a
• 40:40
  bit,
• 40:40
  but
• 40:40
  not
• 40:40
  a
• 40:40
  hundred
• 40:41
  percent.
• 40:41
  And
• 40:41
  people
• 40:42
  are
• 40:42
  still
• 40:42
  gravitating
• 40:43
  towards
• 40:43
  that
• 40:43
  hyper
• 40:43
  local
• 40:44
  travel,
• 40:45
  eating
• 40:45
  the
• 40:45
  gas
• 40:45
  prices,
• 40:46
  knowing
• 40:46
  that,
• 40:46
  Hey,
• 40:46
  it's
• 40:46
  better
• 40:47
  than
• 40:47
  hopping
• 40:47
  on
• 40:47
  a
• 40:47
  flight
• 40:48
  and
• 40:48
  going
• 40:48
  to
• 40:48
  a
• 40:48
  Paris
• 40:48
  at
• 40:49
  the
• 40:49
  moment.
• 40:49
  So
• 40:50
  I
• 40:51
  think
• 40:51
  what
• 40:51
  we've
• 40:51
  seen
• 40:52
  in
• 40:52
  this
• 40:52
  space
• 40:53
  on
• 40:53
  our
• 40:53
  end,
• 40:53
  which
• 40:54
  has
• 40:54
  been
• 40:54
  interesting
• 40:54
  is
• 40:54
  that
• 40:55
  there
• 40:55
  has
• 40:55
  still
• 40:55
  been
• 40:55
  a
• 40:56
  wide
• 40:56
  variety
• 40:57
  of
• 40:57
  average
• 40:57
  daily
• 40:58
  rate
• 40:58
  price
• 40:58
  points
• 40:59
  that
• 40:59
  people
• 40:59
  are
• 40:59
  charging
• 41:00
  with
• 41:00
  some
• 41:01
  lamping
• 41:01
  operations.
• 41:01
  You
• 41:01
  charge
• 41:02
  35,
• 41:02
  40
• 41:03
  $5
• 41:03
  a
• 41:03
  night,
• 41:04
  and
• 41:04
  some
• 41:04
  are
• 41:04
  $35,000
• 41:05
  a
• 41:05
  night,
• 41:06
  and
• 41:06
  then
• 41:06
  everywhere
• 41:07
  in
• 41:07
  between.
• 41:08
  And
• 41:08
  so
• 41:09
  as
• 41:09
  the
• 41:09
  outdoors
• 41:10
  continues
• 41:11
  to
• 41:11
  grow
• 41:11
  at
• 41:11
  a
• 41:11
  rapid
• 41:12
  pace,
• 41:12
  I
• 41:12
  think
• 41:12
  the
• 41:13
  theme
• 41:13
  that
• 41:13
  I
• 41:13
  keep
• 41:13
  seeing
• 41:14
  is
• 41:14
  that
• 41:14
  it's
• 41:14
  not
• 41:15
  the
• 41:15
  outdoors
• 41:15
  is
• 41:15
  still
• 41:16
  proven
• 41:16
  not
• 41:16
  to
• 41:16
  be
• 41:16
  this.
• 41:17
  Recession
• 41:17
  proof,
• 41:18
  but
• 41:18
  still
• 41:18
  recession
• 41:19
  resilient.
• 41:20
  We've
• 41:20
  heard
• 41:20
  that
• 41:21
  time
• 41:21
  and
• 41:21
  time
• 41:21
  again,
• 41:22
  which
• 41:22
  everybody's
• 41:22
  excited
• 41:23
  about
• 41:24
  and
• 41:24
  yeah.
• 41:25
  Does
• 41:25
  it
• 41:25
  keep
• 41:25
  people
• 41:26
  there?
• 41:27
  Do
• 41:27
  you
• 41:27
  have
• 41:27
  the
• 41:27
  extra
• 41:28
  experiences
• 41:29
  and
• 41:29
  add-ons
• 41:29
  that
• 41:30
  people
• 41:30
  can
• 41:30
  pay
• 41:30
  for?
• 41:31
  Are
• 41:31
  there
• 41:31
  cost
• 41:32
  effective
• 41:33
  avenues
• 41:34
  in
• 41:34
  kind
• 41:34
  of
• 41:34
  unique
• 41:35
  travel?
• 41:35
  Everything
• 41:36
  in
• 41:37
  the
• 41:37
  outdoors?
• 41:38
  Yeah.
• 41:38
  But
• 41:39
  I
• 41:39
  think
• 41:40
  it'll
• 41:40
  be
• 41:40
  interesting
• 41:41
  to
• 41:41
  see
• 41:41
  what
• 41:41
  happens
• 41:42
  here
• 41:42
  in
• 41:42
  the
• 41:42
  next
• 41:43
  year
• 41:43
  or
• 41:43
  so.
• 41:43
  There's
• 41:44
  just
• 41:44
  tremendous
• 41:45
  amount
• 41:45
  of
• 41:45
  movement.
• 41:45
  You
• 41:46
  have
• 41:46
  a
• 41:46
  lot
• 41:46
  of
• 41:46
  people
• 41:46
  who
• 41:46
  transitioned
• 41:47
  to
• 41:47
  the
• 41:47
  outdoors,
• 41:48
  people
• 41:48
  who
• 41:48
  are
• 41:48
  used
• 41:49
  to
• 41:49
  hotel
• 41:49
  stays
• 41:50
  that
• 41:51
  said,
• 41:51
  I
• 41:51
  haven't
• 41:52
  been
• 41:52
  Camping
• 41:52
  in
• 41:52
  a
• 41:52
  long
• 41:52
  time.
• 41:53
  I
• 41:53
  don't
• 41:53
  know
• 41:53
  why
• 41:53
  I
• 41:53
  haven't
• 41:53
  been
• 41:53
  doing
• 41:54
  this.
• 41:54
  And
• 41:54
  they
• 41:54
  went
• 41:54
  five
• 41:54
  times
• 41:55
  this
• 41:55
  summer
• 41:55
  already.
• 41:56
  And
• 41:56
  now
• 41:57
  sure.
• 41:57
  They're
• 41:57
  not
• 41:57
  gonna
• 41:57
  go
• 41:57
  Camping
• 41:58
  for
• 41:58
  every
• 41:58
  one
• 41:58
  of
• 41:58
  their
• 41:58
  vacations,
• 41:59
  but
• 41:59
  it's
• 41:59
  now
• 41:59
  part
• 42:00
  of
• 42:00
  their
• 42:00
  repertoire
• 42:01
  right
• 42:01
  now.
• 42:01
  They're
• 42:02
  building
• 42:02
  it
• 42:02
  back
• 42:02
  in.
• 42:03
  And
• 42:03
  so
• 42:04
  that
• 42:04
  is
• 42:04
  something
• 42:05
  that
• 42:05
  I'll
• 42:05
  keep
• 42:05
  a
• 42:05
  close
• 42:06
  eye
• 42:06
  on
• 42:06
  is
• 42:07
  if
• 42:07
  you
• 42:07
  take
• 42:07
  10
• 42:08
  vacations
• 42:08
  if
• 42:08
  that
• 42:08
  makes
• 42:09
  sense.
• 42:09
  And
• 42:10
  what
• 42:10
  does
• 42:10
  that
• 42:10
  do
• 42:11
  for
• 42:11
  the
• 42:11
  price
• 42:11
  point?
• 42:11
  Yeah,
• 42:12
  we're
• 42:12
  still
• 42:12
  seeing
• 42:12
  a
• 42:12
  lot
• 42:13
  of
• 42:13
  people
• 42:13
  who
• 42:13
  are
• 42:13
  doing
• 42:14
  that
• 42:14
  hyperlocal
• 42:15
  travel,
• 42:16
  driving
• 42:16
  a
• 42:16
  few
• 42:16
  hours
• 42:17
  and
• 42:17
  doing
• 42:17
  that
• 42:18
  more
• 42:18
  consistently.
• 42:20
  And
• 42:20
  then
• 42:21
  as
• 42:21
  the
• 42:21
  work
• 42:22
  from
• 42:22
  anywhere
• 42:22
  things
• 42:23
  still
• 42:24
  continues
• 42:24
  to
• 42:24
  shake
• 42:24
  itself
• 42:25
  out.
• 42:25
  Every
• 42:25
  day
• 42:26
  companies
• 42:26
  are
• 42:26
  saying,
• 42:26
  Hey,
• 42:27
  we're
• 42:27
  going
• 42:27
  back
• 42:27
  in
• 42:27
  the
• 42:27
  office.
• 42:28
  And
• 42:28
  every
• 42:28
  day
• 42:28
  there's
• 42:29
  companies
• 42:29
  saying
• 42:29
  we're
• 42:29
  a
• 42:29
  hundred
• 42:30
  percent
• 42:30
  work
• 42:30
  from
• 42:30
  anywhere.
• 42:31
  So
• 42:32
  those
• 42:32
  operations
• 42:33
  that
• 42:33
  can
• 42:33
  provide
• 42:34
  a
• 42:34
  strong
• 42:35
  wifi
• 42:35
  working
• 42:36
  environment
• 42:37
  would
• 42:37
  be
• 42:37
  very
• 42:37
  interesting
• 42:38
  to,
• 42:38
  to
• 42:39
  track
• 42:39
  as
• 42:39
  well.
• 42:40
  So
• 42:40
  yeah,
• 42:43
  I
• 42:43
  wanna
• 42:43
  work
• 42:43
  from
• 42:43
  a
• 42:43
  sailboat.
• 42:44
  That's
• 42:45
  totally
• 42:45
  irrelevant,
• 42:45
  but
• 42:46
  I
• 42:47
  was
• 42:47
  reading,
• 42:47
  I
• 42:47
  read
• 42:47
  a,
• 42:48
  it
• 42:48
  was
• 42:48
  the
• 42:48
  verge.
• 42:49
  I
• 42:49
  read
• 42:49
  this
• 42:49
  tech
• 42:50
  news
• 42:50
  and
• 42:51
  the
• 42:51
  podcast
• 42:51
  that
• 42:51
  I
• 42:51
  read
• 42:52
  a
• 42:52
  summary
• 42:52
  of,
• 42:52
  they
• 42:52
  were
• 42:52
  talking.
• 42:53
  Working
• 42:54
  from
• 42:54
  a
• 42:54
  sailboat
• 42:54
  market
• 42:55
  with
• 42:55
  Starlink
• 42:55
  and
• 42:55
  generators
• 42:56
  and
• 42:56
  solar
• 42:56
  power.
• 42:57
  And
• 42:57
  it
• 42:57
  really
• 42:57
  is
• 42:57
  possible
• 42:58
  today.
• 42:58
  So
• 42:59
  it
• 42:59
  is
• 42:59
  possible.
• 42:59
  I
• 43:00
  am
• 43:00
  part
• 43:00
  of
• 43:00
  a
• 43:00
  Facebook
• 43:01
  group
• 43:01
  of
• 43:01
  campers
• 43:02
  here
• 43:02
  in
• 43:02
  Alberta.
• 43:03
  And
• 43:03
  there's
• 43:04
  a
• 43:04
  gentleman
• 43:04
  in
• 43:04
  there
• 43:04
  that
• 43:05
  posted
• 43:05
  the
• 43:05
  other
• 43:06
  day
• 43:06
  of
• 43:07
  thank
• 43:07
  you
• 43:08
  letter
• 43:08
  to
• 43:08
  Elon
• 43:09
  Musk
• 43:09
  for
• 43:09
  Starlink,
• 43:10
  so
• 43:10
  that
• 43:11
  he
• 43:11
  can
• 43:12
  count
• 43:12
  for
• 43:12
  the
• 43:12
  rest
• 43:13
  of
• 43:13
  his
• 43:13
  life
• 43:13
  and
• 43:13
  still
• 43:13
  work.
• 43:14
  So
• 43:14
  you
• 43:14
  know
• 43:14
  what,
• 43:15
  but
• 43:15
  he
• 43:16
  can't
• 43:16
  work
• 43:16
  for
• 43:17
  Elon
• 43:17
  cuz
• 43:17
  Elon
• 43:17
  wants
• 43:18
  him
• 43:18
  all
• 43:18
  to
• 43:18
  come
• 43:18
  in
• 43:18
  the.
• 43:19
  So
• 43:19
  it's
• 43:19
  like
• 43:19
  a
• 43:20
  catch
• 43:20
  going
• 43:20
  too.
• 43:21
  But
• 43:21
  anyway,
• 43:21
  go
• 43:21
  ahead,
• 43:21
  mark.
• 43:21
  Keep
• 43:22
  Starling
• 43:22
  out.
• 43:23
  I
• 43:23
  was
• 43:23
  gonna
• 43:23
  add
• 43:24
  on
• 43:24
  that,
• 43:24
  cuz
• 43:24
  I
• 43:24
  did
• 43:25
  a
• 43:25
  post
• 43:25
  back
• 43:26
  when
• 43:26
  that
• 43:26
  Starling
• 43:26
  announced
• 43:27
  that
• 43:27
  they
• 43:27
  had
• 43:27
  the
• 43:27
  RV
• 43:28
  year
• 43:28
  plan.
• 43:28
  It
• 43:29
  is,
• 43:29
  that
• 43:30
  is
• 43:30
  the
• 43:30
  most
• 43:30
  significant
• 43:31
  improvement
• 43:31
  in
• 43:31
  our
• 43:32
  industry
• 43:32
  ever.
• 43:32
  And
• 43:32
  it's
• 43:32
  not
• 43:32
  related
• 43:33
  to
• 43:33
  our
• 43:33
  industry.
• 43:33
  It's
• 43:33
  connectivity,
• 43:34
  cuz
• 43:34
  connectivity
• 43:35
  creates
• 43:35
  opportunities
• 43:36
  for
• 43:36
  people
• 43:36
  to
• 43:36
  go
• 43:37
  on
• 43:37
  the
• 43:37
  road
• 43:37
  and
• 43:38
  the
• 43:38
  travel
• 43:39
  and
• 43:39
  to
• 43:39
  spend
• 43:39
  a
• 43:39
  lot
• 43:39
  of
• 43:40
  time
• 43:40
  on
• 43:40
  the
• 43:40
  road,
• 43:41
  our
• 43:41
  industry,
• 43:41
  this
• 43:42
  goes
• 43:42
  back
• 43:42
  to
• 43:42
  the
• 43:42
  original
• 43:43
  conversation.
• 43:43
  Our
• 43:43
  industry
• 43:44
  will
• 43:44
  drastically
• 43:44
  change
• 43:45
  over
• 43:45
  the
• 43:45
  next
• 43:45
  five
• 43:45
  to
• 43:45
  10
• 43:46
  years
• 43:46
  drastically
• 43:47
  the
• 43:47
  amount
• 43:47
  of
• 43:47
  people
• 43:47
  that'll
• 43:48
  be
• 43:48
  Camping
• 43:48
  and
• 43:48
  traveling
• 43:49
  and
• 43:49
  not
• 43:50
  doing
• 43:50
  it
• 43:50
  just
• 43:50
  for
• 43:50
  vacations,
• 43:51
  but
• 43:51
  maybe
• 43:51
  doing
• 43:52
  it
• 43:52
  as
• 43:52
  part
• 43:52
  of
• 43:52
  their
• 43:52
  lifestyle.
• 43:53
  Part
• 43:53
  of
• 43:53
  their
• 43:53
  travel
• 43:54
  plans
• 43:54
  is
• 43:55
  going
• 43:55
  to
• 43:55
  increase.
• 43:56
  I
• 43:56
  will,
• 43:57
  I'll
• 43:57
  go
• 43:57
  on
• 43:57
  the
• 43:57
  record
• 43:57
  and
• 43:57
  say
• 43:58
  that
• 43:58
  it's
• 43:58
  going
• 43:58
  to
• 43:58
  increase
• 43:59
  and
• 43:59
  it's
• 43:59
  gonna
• 43:59
  change
• 44:00
  the
• 44:00
  way
• 44:00
  our
• 44:01
  industry
• 44:01
  works.
• 44:02
  The
• 44:02
  way
• 44:02
  parts
• 44:02
  work,
• 44:03
  the
• 44:03
  way
• 44:03
  pricing
• 44:04
  plans,
• 44:04
  the
• 44:04
  way
• 44:05
  you
• 44:05
  price
• 44:05
  your
• 44:05
  sites
• 44:06
  is
• 44:06
  gonna
• 44:06
  change.
• 44:07
  And
• 44:07
  so
• 44:08
  we
• 44:08
  just
• 44:08
  see
• 44:08
  a
• 44:08
  lot
• 44:09
  of
• 44:09
  change
• 44:09
  coming
• 44:09
  down
• 44:09
  the
• 44:09
  road
• 44:10
  as
• 44:10
  a
• 44:10
  result
• 44:10
  of
• 44:11
  one
• 44:11
  thing,
• 44:12
  connectivity.
• 44:12
  And
• 44:12
  we've
• 44:13
  talked
• 44:13
  about
• 44:13
  briefly,
• 44:14
  we
• 44:14
  won't
• 44:14
  get
• 44:14
  into
• 44:14
  it
• 44:14
  again,
• 44:14
  but
• 44:15
  we've
• 44:15
  talked
• 44:15
  to
• 44:15
  the
• 44:15
  cyber
• 44:16
  Lander
• 44:16
  guys,
• 44:16
  about
• 44:16
  how
• 44:17
  they
• 44:17
  have
• 44:17
  it's
• 44:18
  the
• 44:18
  add
• 44:18
  on
• 44:18
  for
• 44:18
  the
• 44:18
  cyber
• 44:19
  truck
• 44:19
  that
• 44:19
  you
• 44:19
  can
• 44:19
  go
• 44:19
  Camping
• 44:20
  in
• 44:20
  and
• 44:20
  has,
• 44:20
  recyclable
• 44:21
  water
• 44:21
  and
• 44:21
  solar
• 44:22
  panels
• 44:22
  and
• 44:22
  electricity
• 44:23
  and
• 44:23
  all
• 44:23
  that
• 44:23
  kind
• 44:23
  of
• 44:23
  stuff.
• 44:24
  And
• 44:24
  we
• 44:24
  talked
• 44:24
  to
• 44:24
  them
• 44:24
  about
• 44:25
  how,
• 44:25
  yes,
• 44:25
  we
• 44:25
  have
• 44:25
  interest
• 44:26
  from
• 44:26
  Camping,
• 44:26
  but
• 44:26
  we
• 44:26
  also
• 44:27
  have
• 44:27
  interest
• 44:27
  from
• 44:27
  soccer
• 44:27
  moms
• 44:28
  to
• 44:28
  have
• 44:28
  a
• 44:28
  clean
• 44:28
  bathroom
• 44:29
  and
• 44:29
  from
• 44:29
  people
• 44:29
  who
• 44:30
  are
• 44:30
  working
• 44:30
  from
• 44:30
  home
• 44:31
  to
• 44:31
  park
• 44:31
  outside
• 44:32
  in
• 44:32
  nature.
• 44:32
  And
• 44:32
  so
• 44:33
  we've
• 44:33
  speculated
• 44:34
  before,
• 44:34
  you
• 44:34
  know
• 44:35
  what,
• 44:35
  if
• 44:35
  you
• 44:35
  can
• 44:36
  rent
• 44:36
  a
• 44:36
  campsite
• 44:36
  for
• 44:37
  half
• 44:37
  a
• 44:37
  day
• 44:37
  and
• 44:38
  go
• 44:38
  work
• 44:38
  and
• 44:38
  people
• 44:38
  can
• 44:39
  sit
• 44:39
  at
• 44:39
  your
• 44:39
  Campground
• 44:40
  midweek
• 44:40
  when
• 44:40
  you
• 44:40
  don't
• 44:41
  have
• 44:41
  those
• 44:41
  sites
• 44:41
  filled
• 44:42
  and
• 44:42
  they
• 44:43
  can
• 44:43
  look
• 44:43
  at
• 44:43
  your
• 44:43
  pond
• 44:43
  or
• 44:44
  your
• 44:44
  nature
• 44:44
  or
• 44:44
  your
• 44:44
  trees
• 44:45
  or
• 44:45
  whatever
• 44:45
  else.
• 44:45
  And
• 44:46
  you're
• 44:46
  talking
• 44:46
  about
• 44:47
  more
• 44:47
  of
• 44:47
  these
• 44:47
  electric
• 44:47
  vehicle
• 44:48
  companies
• 44:48
  are
• 44:48
  popping
• 44:49
  up,
• 44:49
  not
• 44:49
  just
• 44:49
  for
• 44:49
  Tesla,
• 44:50
  but
• 44:51
  imagine
• 44:51
  a,
• 44:51
  like,
• 44:52
  why
• 44:52
  do
• 44:52
  you
• 44:52
  have
• 44:52
  to
• 44:52
  be
• 44:52
  either
• 44:53
  a
• 44:53
  hotel
• 44:53
  or
• 44:53
  a
• 44:53
  Camping
• 44:54
  guest?
• 44:54
  Why
• 44:54
  can't
• 44:55
  you.
• 44:55
  Why
• 44:55
  can't
• 44:55
  you
• 44:55
  travel
• 44:56
  in
• 44:56
  your
• 44:56
  cyber
• 44:56
  truck
• 44:56
  or
• 44:57
  your
• 44:57
  electric
• 44:57
  vehicle
• 44:57
  and
• 44:58
  camp
• 44:58
  on
• 44:58
  the
• 44:58
  way
• 44:58
  to
• 44:59
  a
• 44:59
  hotel
• 44:59
  or
• 44:59
  the
• 44:59
  way
• 45:00
  to
• 45:00
  a
• 45:00
  resort
• 45:00
  and
• 45:00
  then
• 45:00
  camp
• 45:01
  on
• 45:01
  the
• 45:01
  way
• 45:01
  back
• 45:01
  or
• 45:01
  vice
• 45:02
  versa?
• 45:03
  I
• 45:03
  think
• 45:03
  there's
• 45:03
  a
• 45:03
  lot
• 45:03
  of
• 45:03
  things
• 45:03
  that
• 45:04
  are
• 45:04
  gonna
• 45:04
  come
• 45:04
  out
• 45:04
  of
• 45:04
  these
• 45:05
  innovations
• 45:05
  that
• 45:05
  we
• 45:06
  can't
• 45:06
  even
• 45:06
  begin
• 45:07
  to
• 45:07
  imagine
• 45:07
  yet.
• 45:07
  I
• 45:07
  will
• 45:08
  say
• 45:08
  according
• 45:08
  to
• 45:09
  the
• 45:09
  recent
• 45:09
  tests
• 45:09
  of
• 45:09
  the
• 45:09
  Ford
• 45:10
  lightning,
• 45:10
  you
• 45:10
  really
• 45:10
  can't
• 45:11
  go
• 45:11
  Camping
• 45:11
  with
• 45:11
  that
• 45:12
  thing
• 45:12
  and
• 45:12
  tow
• 45:12
  anything
• 45:12
  anywhere.
• 45:13
  So
• 45:13
  we're
• 45:13
  still
• 45:14
  a
• 45:14
  few
• 45:14
  years
• 45:14
  off
• 45:14
  on
• 45:14
  that
• 45:14
  Randy
• 45:15
  and
• 45:15
  I
• 45:15
  were
• 45:16
  I
• 45:16
  don't
• 45:16
  know
• 45:16
  if
• 45:16
  I'm
• 45:16
  my
• 45:16
  Internet's
• 45:17
  going
• 45:17
  bad
• 45:17
  again.
• 45:17
  But
• 45:18
  Randy
• 45:18
  and
• 45:18
  I
• 45:18
  were
• 45:19
  discussing
• 45:19
  that
• 45:20
  in
• 45:20
  a
• 45:20
  slack
• 45:20
  channel
• 45:21
  about
• 45:21
  the
• 45:21
  Ford
• 45:22
  lightning
• 45:22
  and
• 45:22
  all
• 45:22
  that
• 45:22
  kind
• 45:22
  of
• 45:22
  stuff.
• 45:23
  And
• 45:23
  I
• 45:23
  feel
• 45:23
  like
• 45:23
  they're
• 45:23
  coming
• 45:23
  out
• 45:24
  with
• 45:24
  a
• 45:24
  20,
• 45:24
  23
• 45:24
  model
• 45:25
  in
• 45:25
  October,
• 45:25
  and
• 45:25
  hopefully
• 45:26
  you
• 45:26
  guys
• 45:26
  can
• 45:26
  hear
• 45:26
  me
• 45:26
  and
• 45:26
  I'm
• 45:26
  not
• 45:27
  pausing,
• 45:27
  but
• 45:29
  in,
• 45:29
  in
• 45:29
  October
• 45:30
  of
• 45:30
  2023,
• 45:30
  they're
• 45:31
  gonna
• 45:31
  start
• 45:31
  or
• 45:31
  this
• 45:32
  year
• 45:32
  on
• 45:32
  October,
• 45:32
  they're
• 45:33
  gonna
• 45:33
  start
• 45:33
  production
• 45:33
  of
• 45:33
  the
• 45:33
  2023
• 45:34
  model
• 45:35
  cars
• 45:35
  innovate
• 45:36
  very
• 45:36
  quickly.
• 45:36
  Batteries
• 45:37
  are
• 45:37
  gonna
• 45:37
  innovate
• 45:37
  very
• 45:37
  quickly.
• 45:38
  I
• 45:38
  think
• 45:38
  it's
• 45:38
  very
• 45:38
  plausible
• 45:39
  that
• 45:39
  a
• 45:39
  third.
• 45:40
  Comes
• 45:40
  out
• 45:41
  with
• 45:41
  an
• 45:41
  add-on
• 45:41
  battery
• 45:42
  that
• 45:42
  you
• 45:42
  can
• 45:42
  tie
• 45:42
  in
• 45:43
  through
• 45:43
  the
• 45:43
  tow
• 45:43
  pack.
• 45:44
  Maybe
• 45:44
  even
• 45:44
  some
• 45:44
  of
• 45:44
  these
• 45:44
  electric
• 45:45
  RVs
• 45:45
  come
• 45:45
  with
• 45:45
  batteries
• 45:46
  that
• 45:46
  can
• 45:46
  link
• 45:46
  into
• 45:47
  that
• 45:47
  too.
• 45:47
  And
• 45:47
  it's
• 45:47
  really
• 45:47
  just,
• 45:48
  it's
• 45:48
  not
• 45:48
  a
• 45:48
  torque
• 45:49
  or
• 45:49
  a
• 45:49
  pulling
• 45:49
  issue.
• 45:49
  It's
• 45:50
  a
• 45:50
  battery
• 45:50
  longevity
• 45:51
  issue
• 45:51
  and
• 45:52
  that's
• 45:52
  not
• 45:52
  too
• 45:52
  hard
• 45:53
  to
• 45:53
  solve.
• 45:56
  It's
• 45:56
  always
• 45:56
  been
• 45:56
  a
• 45:56
  battery
• 45:57
  disagree.
• 45:59
  Yeah.
• 45:59
  It's
• 46:00
  battery
• 46:00
  thing,
• 46:00
  I
• 46:01
  think.
• 46:01
  And
• 46:01
  that's
• 46:01
  the
• 46:02
  Brian
• 46:03
  and
• 46:03
  I
• 46:03
  were
• 46:03
  trade
• 46:04
  jobs
• 46:04
  yesterday
• 46:04
  and
• 46:04
  I
• 46:05
  said,
• 46:05
  putting
• 46:06
  this
• 46:06
  Motown
• 46:06
  study,
• 46:07
  I'd
• 46:08
  love
• 46:08
  to
• 46:08
  spend
• 46:09
  hundred
• 46:09
  thousand
• 46:09
  dollars
• 46:10
  on
• 46:10
  a
• 46:10
  truck.
• 46:10
  We
• 46:10
  go
• 46:11
  rid
• 46:11
  miles
• 46:12
  only
• 46:14
  while
• 46:14
  towing
• 46:14
  something
• 46:15
  and
• 46:16
  an
• 46:16
  hour
• 46:16
  and
• 46:16
  a
• 46:16
  half
• 46:16
  to
• 46:16
  charge
• 46:17
  back
• 46:17
  up.
• 46:18
  That
• 46:18
  sounds
• 46:18
  like
• 46:19
  valuable.
• 46:19
  I'm
• 46:19
  thinking
• 46:20
  to
• 46:20
  myself,
• 46:20
  my
• 46:21
  thing
• 46:21
  saying,
• 46:21
  so
• 46:21
  you're
• 46:22
  hundred
• 46:22
  thousand
• 46:23
  product
• 46:23
  today,
• 46:24
  I'm
• 46:24
  gonna
• 46:24
  buy
• 46:25
  for
• 46:25
  30,000
• 46:25
  a
• 46:26
  lot.
• 46:26
  That's
• 46:26
  full
• 46:26
  with
• 46:26
  them
• 46:27
  next
• 46:27
  year.
• 46:28
  The
• 46:28
  technology's
• 46:29
  gonna
• 46:29
  run
• 46:29
  lap
• 46:30
  around
• 46:30
  you
• 46:30
  and
• 46:30
  take
• 46:31
  the
• 46:31
  form
• 46:31
  of
• 46:31
  a
• 46:31
  pager.
• 46:32
  At
• 46:33
  some
• 46:33
  point
• 46:34
  today's
• 46:34
  technology
• 46:35
  is
• 46:35
  gonna
• 46:35
  be
• 46:35
  outdated.
• 46:36
  Yeah,
• 46:36
  to
• 46:36
  be
• 46:36
  sure
• 46:37
  nobody's
• 46:37
  saying
• 46:37
  it's
• 46:37
  ready
• 46:38
  now.
• 46:38
  But
• 46:38
  there
• 46:38
  are
• 46:39
  like,
• 46:39
  once
• 46:39
  we
• 46:39
  have
• 46:40
  a
• 46:40
  fast
• 46:40
  charging
• 46:40
  network
• 46:41
  and
• 46:41
  we
• 46:41
  build
• 46:41
  that
• 46:41
  stuff
• 46:42
  up,
• 46:42
  like
• 46:42
  it's
• 46:42
  gonna,
• 46:42
  it's
• 46:43
  gonna
• 46:43
  scale
• 46:43
  quickly.
• 46:43
  They've
• 46:44
  said
• 46:44
  I
• 46:44
  watched,
• 46:44
  after
• 46:45
  you
• 46:45
  posted
• 46:45
  that
• 46:45
  Randy,
• 46:46
  some
• 46:46
  videos
• 46:47
  about,
• 46:47
  the
• 46:47
  Ford
• 46:48
  lightning
• 46:48
  being
• 46:48
  able
• 46:48
  to
• 46:48
  quick
• 46:49
  charger
• 46:49
  up
• 46:49
  to
• 46:49
  80%
• 46:50
  and
• 46:50
  40
• 46:51
  some
• 46:51
  minutes.
• 46:52
  And
• 46:52
  again
• 46:52
  that
• 46:52
  you
• 46:52
  have
• 46:53
  to
• 46:53
  use
• 46:53
  a
• 46:53
  quick
• 46:53
  charger,
• 46:54
  you
• 46:54
  can't
• 46:54
  plug
• 46:54
  it
• 46:54
  in
• 46:54
  at
• 46:55
  a
• 46:55
  campsite
• 46:55
  or
• 46:55
  a
• 46:55
  regular
• 46:56
  place,
• 46:57
  but
• 46:57
  these
• 46:57
  things
• 46:58
  are
• 46:58
  gonna
• 46:58
  expand.
• 46:58
  And
• 46:58
  so
• 46:59
  I
• 46:59
  don't
• 47:00
  like,
• 47:00
  yes,
• 47:00
  it's
• 47:00
  not
• 47:01
  there
• 47:01
  yet,
• 47:01
  but
• 47:01
  I
• 47:01
  don't
• 47:01
  think
• 47:02
  it's
• 47:02
  quite
• 47:02
  as
• 47:02
  far
• 47:02
  off
• 47:03
  as
• 47:03
  people
• 47:03
  imagine
• 47:03
  it
• 47:04
  is.
• 47:04
  If
• 47:04
  you
• 47:04
  go
• 47:04
  that
• 47:04
  route
• 47:04
  though,
• 47:05
  the
• 47:05
  big
• 47:06
  problem
• 47:06
  you
• 47:06
  have
• 47:06
  there
• 47:06
  though
• 47:07
  is
• 47:07
  where
• 47:07
  is
• 47:07
  that
• 47:08
  electricity
• 47:08
  coming
• 47:08
  from?
• 47:09
  Yeah.
• 47:09
  When
• 47:09
  you've
• 47:09
  got
• 47:09
  a
• 47:10
  reduction
• 47:10
  in
• 47:10
  power
• 47:11
  plants,
• 47:11
  a
• 47:11
  reduction
• 47:11
  in
• 47:12
  transmission,
• 47:12
  you
• 47:13
  can't,
• 47:13
  California's
• 47:13
  having
• 47:14
  brown
• 47:14
  outs.
• 47:14
  You
• 47:14
  can't,
• 47:15
  if
• 47:15
  you
• 47:15
  can't
• 47:15
  charge
• 47:16
  the
• 47:16
  car,
• 47:16
  it
• 47:16
  ain't
• 47:16
  going
• 47:17
  anywhere.
• 47:17
  I
• 47:17
  agree
• 47:17
  with
• 47:18
  you
• 47:18
  there,
• 47:18
  there's
• 47:18
  obviously
• 47:19
  some
• 47:19
  interest
• 47:19
  in
• 47:19
  going
• 47:20
  down
• 47:20
  that
• 47:20
  route.
• 47:21
  I
• 47:21
  personally
• 47:22
  believe
• 47:22
  right
• 47:22
  now
• 47:22
  there's
• 47:22
  no
• 47:22
  tangible
• 47:23
  steps
• 47:24
  being
• 47:24
  taken
• 47:24
  other
• 47:24
  than
• 47:25
  banning
• 47:25
  gas
• 47:26
  vehicles
• 47:26
  that
• 47:27
  are
• 47:27
  gonna
• 47:27
  move
• 47:27
  us
• 47:27
  down
• 47:28
  that
• 47:28
  route.
• 47:28
  If
• 47:28
  that
• 47:29
  makes
• 47:29
  sense.
• 47:29
  So
• 47:29
  it's
• 47:29
  one
• 47:30
  thing
• 47:30
  to
• 47:30
  say,
• 47:30
  Hey,
• 47:30
  everybody
• 47:31
  has
• 47:31
  to
• 47:31
  buy
• 47:31
  an
• 47:31
  electric
• 47:31
  car
• 47:31
  by
• 47:31
  2030,
• 47:32
  but
• 47:32
  if
• 47:32
  you're
• 47:33
  not
• 47:33
  permitting
• 47:34
  power
• 47:34
  generation,
• 47:35
  if
• 47:35
  you're
• 47:35
  not
• 47:35
  building
• 47:35
  those
• 47:36
  power
• 47:36
  generation
• 47:36
  plants,
• 47:37
  if
• 47:37
  you're
• 47:37
  not
• 47:37
  improving
• 47:38
  the
• 47:38
  infrastructure
• 47:39
  who
• 47:39
  cares,
• 47:39
  I'm
• 47:39
  gonna
• 47:40
  have
• 47:40
  electric
• 47:40
  car
• 47:40
  that's
• 47:40
  sitting
• 47:40
  in
• 47:41
  the
• 47:41
  lot,
• 47:41
  cuz
• 47:41
  I
• 47:41
  can't
• 47:41
  charge
• 47:42
  it
• 47:42
  with
• 47:42
  12
• 47:43
  batteries
• 47:43
  on
• 47:43
  it.
• 47:44
  Yeah.
• 47:45
  It
• 47:45
  doesn't
• 47:45
  matter
• 47:46
  how
• 47:46
  many
• 47:46
  batteries
• 47:46
  it's
• 47:46
  got
• 47:50
  yeah,
• 47:51
  just
• 47:51
  I'd
• 47:51
  rather
• 47:51
  not
• 47:52
  buy
• 47:52
  the
• 47:52
  bag
• 47:52
  phone
• 47:53
  the
• 47:53
  year
• 47:53
  before
• 47:53
  the
• 47:54
  iPhone
• 47:54
  appeared.
• 47:55
  I
• 47:55
  wouldn't
• 47:55
  have
• 47:56
  that
• 47:57
  really
• 47:57
  cool
• 47:58
  brick
• 48:00
  when
• 48:00
  next
• 48:00
  year
• 48:00
  comes.
• 48:02
  I
• 48:02
  mean
• 48:02
  I'm
• 48:03
  not
• 48:03
  electric.
• 48:05
  The
• 48:05
  imagination
• 48:06
  it's
• 48:06
  gonna
• 48:06
  happen.
• 48:06
  It's
• 48:07
  all
• 48:07
  coming.
• 48:07
  I
• 48:07
  just
• 48:07
  think
• 48:08
  way
• 48:08
  too
• 48:08
  early.
• 48:09
  Just
• 48:10
  spend
• 48:10
  that
• 48:10
  much
• 48:11
  on
• 48:11
  something
• 48:11
  that
• 48:12
  is
• 48:12
  ethical
• 48:12
  as
• 48:13
  it's
• 48:13
  being
• 48:13
  portrayed
• 48:13
  in
• 48:14
  real
• 48:14
  life.
• 48:14
  Not
• 48:15
  ants.
• 48:15
  Don't
• 48:15
  think
• 48:15
  we're
• 48:15
  anywhere
• 48:16
  close.
• 48:18
  So
• 48:18
  the
• 48:18
  ubiquitous
• 48:19
  kind
• 48:19
  of
• 48:19
  it
• 48:19
  to
• 48:19
  that
• 48:19
  a
• 48:19
  lot
• 48:20
  of
• 48:20
  folks
• 48:20
  are
• 48:20
  forecasting,
• 48:21
  but
• 48:22
  that's
• 48:22
  just
• 48:22
  me
• 48:23
  completely
• 48:24
  agree.
• 48:24
  A
• 48:25
  lot
• 48:25
  of
• 48:25
  people
• 48:25
  spend
• 48:25
  a
• 48:26
  lot
• 48:26
  of
• 48:26
  money
• 48:26
  on
• 48:26
  a
• 48:26
  lot
• 48:27
  more
• 48:27
  stupid
• 48:27
  things,
• 48:28
  but
• 48:28
  we'll
• 48:28
  see.
• 48:29
  We'll
• 48:29
  see
• 48:29
  what
• 48:29
  happens.
• 48:31
  They're
• 48:31
  fine.
• 48:32
  I
• 48:33
  was
• 48:33
  pre-sold
• 48:34
  he
• 48:34
  had
• 48:34
  several,
• 48:36
  a
• 48:36
  few
• 48:36
  hundred
• 48:36
  units
• 48:37
  pre-sold
• 48:37
  and
• 48:38
  they're
• 48:38
  not
• 48:38
  even
• 48:38
  in
• 48:38
  manufacture
• 48:39
  yet.
• 48:39
  They're
• 48:40
  buying
• 48:41
  this
• 48:41
  stuff
• 48:41
  already.
• 48:42
  There
• 48:42
  are,
• 48:42
  there's
• 48:43
  a
• 48:43
  market
• 48:43
  already.
• 48:44
  It's
• 48:44
  coming.
• 48:45
  Yeah.
• 48:46
  Oh
• 48:46
  yeah.
• 48:48
  I'll
• 48:48
  be
• 48:48
  a
• 48:48
  year
• 48:48
  three,
• 48:49
  but
• 48:50
  not
• 48:50
  a
• 48:50
  year
• 48:50
  on
• 48:50
  time.
• 48:51
  Yeah.
• 48:51
  Okay.
• 48:52
  Year
• 48:52
  three
• 48:53
  is
• 48:53
  not
• 48:53
  that
• 48:54
  way.
• 48:54
  Not
• 48:54
  that
• 48:54
  far
• 48:54
  away,
• 48:55
  Randy.
• 48:55
  I'm
• 48:55
  just
• 48:56
  saying
• 48:56
  we're
• 48:56
  gonna
• 48:56
  hold
• 48:56
  you
• 48:57
  to
• 48:57
  that.
• 48:57
  We
• 48:57
  gonna
• 48:57
  play
• 48:57
  this
• 48:58
  recording
• 48:58
  for
• 48:58
  you
• 48:59
  in
• 48:59
  October
• 48:59
  of
• 49:00
  20,
• 49:00
  25
• 49:01
  or
• 49:01
  four.
• 49:02
  Yeah.
• 49:02
  October
• 49:03
  of
• 49:03
  2023
• 49:03
  actually
• 49:04
  will
• 49:04
  be
• 49:04
  year
• 49:04
  three
• 49:04
  when
• 49:05
  they
• 49:05
  start
• 49:05
  production.
• 49:06
  So
• 49:06
  you
• 49:06
  don't
• 49:06
  have
• 49:06
  to
• 49:07
  too
• 49:07
  long
• 49:07
  here,
• 49:07
  Randy,
• 49:08
  we're
• 49:08
  gonna
• 49:08
  play
• 49:08
  the
• 49:08
  recording
• 49:08
  back
• 49:09
  for
• 49:09
  you
• 49:09
  and
• 49:09
  you're
• 49:09
  gonna
• 49:09
  have
• 49:09
  to
• 49:09
  buy
• 49:09
  one.
• 49:11
  Yeah,
• 49:11
  but
• 49:11
  to
• 49:11
  that
• 49:11
  point,
• 49:12
  if
• 49:12
  that
• 49:12
  happens
• 49:13
  in
• 49:13
  two
• 49:13
  years,
• 49:13
  Brian,
• 49:14
  if
• 49:14
  they're
• 49:14
  able
• 49:14
  to
• 49:14
  get
• 49:14
  the
• 49:14
  range
• 49:15
  up
• 49:15
  to
• 49:15
  250,
• 49:16
  300
• 49:16
  miles
• 49:16
  towing,
• 49:17
  electric
• 49:17
  vehicles,
• 49:18
  beat
• 49:18
  gas
• 49:19
  vehicles
• 49:19
  all
• 49:19
  day
• 49:19
  long,
• 49:20
  you
• 49:20
  got
• 49:20
  instant
• 49:20
  torque,
• 49:21
  all
• 49:21
  that
• 49:21
  power.
• 49:21
  So
• 49:22
  if
• 49:22
  that's
• 49:22
  a
• 49:22
  possibility
• 49:23
  you
• 49:23
  would
• 49:23
  see
• 49:23
  a
• 49:23
  massive
• 49:24
  shift
• 49:24
  immediately.
• 49:25
  Yeah.
• 49:26
  I
• 49:26
  don't
• 49:26
  think,
• 49:27
  and
• 49:27
  I'm
• 49:27
  so
• 49:28
  sorry.
• 49:28
  I'm
• 49:28
  just
• 49:28
  lagging
• 49:29
  here.
• 49:29
  So
• 49:29
  if
• 49:29
  I'm
• 49:29
  overlapping
• 49:30
  somebody
• 49:30
  I
• 49:30
  look
• 49:31
  like
• 49:31
  I'm
• 49:31
  choppy
• 49:31
  on
• 49:31
  my
• 49:31
  end,
• 49:32
  so
• 49:32
  hopefully
• 49:32
  I'm
• 49:32
  coming
• 49:32
  through
• 49:33
  on
• 49:33
  your
• 49:33
  end.
• 49:33
  Fine.
• 49:33
  You're
• 49:34
  fair
• 49:34
  on
• 49:34
  our
• 49:34
  I,
• 49:34
  I
• 49:35
  think
• 49:35
  that
• 49:35
  the
• 49:36
  answer
• 49:36
  is
• 49:36
  not
• 49:36
  necessarily
• 49:37
  gonna
• 49:37
  be
• 49:37
  quick
• 49:38
  for
• 49:38
  Ford
• 49:39
  putting
• 49:39
  a
• 49:39
  bigger
• 49:39
  battery
• 49:40
  on
• 49:40
  the
• 49:40
  Ford
• 49:41
  lightning,
• 49:42
  but
• 49:42
  I
• 49:42
  think
• 49:42
  that
• 49:42
  you
• 49:43
  see
• 49:43
  some
• 49:43
  of
• 49:43
  these
• 49:43
  electric
• 49:44
  vehicle
• 49:44
  and
• 49:45
  RV
• 49:45
  manufacturers
• 49:46
  and
• 49:46
  even
• 49:46
  third
• 49:47
  party
• 49:47
  just
• 49:47
  sell
• 49:47
  a
• 49:47
  battery
• 49:48
  package
• 49:48
  and
• 49:48
  sit
• 49:49
  in
• 49:49
  a
• 49:49
  battery
• 49:49
  truck
• 49:49
  or
• 49:50
  whatever
• 49:50
  that
• 49:50
  can
• 49:51
  connect
• 49:51
  either
• 49:51
  tow
• 49:51
  and
• 49:52
  expand
• 49:52
  the
• 49:52
  I
• 49:52
  think
• 49:52
  there's
• 49:53
  gonna
• 49:53
  be
• 49:53
  third
• 49:53
  party
• 49:53
  vendors
• 49:54
  outside
• 49:54
  of
• 49:54
  four.
• 49:55
  And
• 49:55
  I
• 49:55
  think
• 49:55
  that's
• 49:55
  the
• 49:55
  quickest.
• 49:58
  And
• 49:58
  in
• 49:58
  the
• 49:58
  meantime,
• 49:59
  we
• 49:59
  have
• 50:00
  to
• 50:00
  be
• 50:00
  able
• 50:00
  to
• 50:00
  help
• 50:01
  educate
• 50:01
  our
• 50:01
  parks.
• 50:02
  And
• 50:03
  equip
• 50:03
  them
• 50:03
  on
• 50:03
  how
• 50:04
  to
• 50:04
  handle
• 50:04
  this.
• 50:04
  Cuz
• 50:05
  I've
• 50:05
  already
• 50:05
  had
• 50:06
  a
• 50:06
  park
• 50:06
  that
• 50:07
  couldn't
• 50:07
  have
• 50:07
  a
• 50:07
  better
• 50:07
  infrastructure
• 50:09
  where
• 50:09
  people
• 50:09
  have
• 50:09
  come
• 50:10
  in
• 50:10
  with
• 50:10
  their
• 50:10
  electric
• 50:11
  cars,
• 50:11
  decided
• 50:12
  to
• 50:12
  plug
• 50:12
  up
• 50:12
  on
• 50:12
  the
• 50:13
  post
• 50:13
  to
• 50:13
  plug,
• 50:13
  to
• 50:14
  charge
• 50:14
  their
• 50:14
  car.
• 50:15
  And
• 50:15
  when
• 50:16
  they
• 50:16
  did,
• 50:16
  they
• 50:17
  went
• 50:17
  inside
• 50:17
  and
• 50:17
  tried
• 50:17
  to
• 50:18
  run
• 50:18
  the
• 50:18
  microwave
• 50:19
  and
• 50:19
  do
• 50:19
  other
• 50:20
  things.
• 50:20
  And
• 50:20
  guess
• 50:21
  what?
• 50:21
  The
• 50:21
  refrigerator
• 50:22
  went
• 50:22
  out
• 50:23
  because
• 50:23
  they're
• 50:24
  not
• 50:24
  designed
• 50:25
  to
• 50:25
  be
• 50:25
  able
• 50:25
  to
• 50:25
  run
• 50:25
  all
• 50:26
  that
• 50:26
  power.
• 50:27
  And
• 50:27
  so
• 50:28
  parks
• 50:28
  need
• 50:29
  to
• 50:29
  be
• 50:29
  equipped
• 50:29
  and
• 50:29
  educated
• 50:30
  on,
• 50:30
  how
• 50:30
  do
• 50:31
  you
• 50:31
  handle
• 50:31
  somebody
• 50:31
  who
• 50:32
  comes
• 50:32
  in,
• 50:32
  who
• 50:32
  tries
• 50:32
  to
• 50:33
  plug
• 50:33
  their
• 50:33
  car
• 50:33
  in?
• 50:34
  Not
• 50:34
  all
• 50:34
  the
• 50:35
  power
• 50:35
  is
• 50:35
  clean
• 50:35
  power.
• 50:36
  If
• 50:36
  it
• 50:36
  damages
• 50:37
  the
• 50:37
  car
• 50:37
  because
• 50:37
  they
• 50:37
  plugged
• 50:38
  into
• 50:38
  your
• 50:38
  post,
• 50:39
  what's
• 50:39
  gonna
• 50:39
  happen.
• 50:40
  And
• 50:40
  those
• 50:40
  are
• 50:40
  the
• 50:40
  things
• 50:41
  we
• 50:41
  need
• 50:41
  to
• 50:41
  be
• 50:41
  educating
• 50:42
  our
• 50:42
  parks
• 50:42
  on
• 50:43
  or
• 50:43
  some
• 50:43
  national
• 50:44
  organization
• 50:45
  or
• 50:45
  some
• 50:45
  state
• 50:46
  organization.
• 50:47
  Doing
• 50:47
  that
• 50:48
  to
• 50:48
  help
• 50:48
  them
• 50:48
  get
• 50:49
  prepared
• 50:49
  along
• 50:50
  the
• 50:50
  way
• 50:50
  until
• 50:51
  all
• 50:51
  this
• 50:51
  is
• 50:51
  ready.
• 50:52
  It's
• 50:53
  a
• 50:53
  good
• 50:53
  idea,
• 50:53
  Sandy,
• 50:53
  we
• 50:54
  should
• 50:54
  create
• 50:54
  a
• 50:54
  task
• 50:55
  force
• 50:55
  to
• 50:55
  create
• 50:56
  standards,
• 50:57
  electric
• 50:57
  vehicles
• 50:58
  across
• 50:58
  the
• 50:58
  industry.
• 51:03
  the
• 51:04
  new
• 51:04
  lightnings.
• 51:04
  I'll
• 51:05
  up
• 51:05
  the
• 51:05
  task
• 51:05
  force.
• 51:07
  You
• 51:09
  that
• 51:09
  goes
• 51:10
  power
• 51:11
  provider,
• 51:12
  the
• 51:12
  amount
• 51:12
  of
• 51:12
  power
• 51:13
  available
• 51:13
  in
• 51:13
  my
• 51:14
  park.
• 51:14
  I
• 51:14
  had
• 51:14
  200
• 51:15
  sites
• 51:15
  and
• 51:15
  plenty
• 51:16
  of
• 51:16
  transformers.
• 51:16
  And
• 51:17
  in
• 51:17
  the
• 51:17
  peak
• 51:17
  of
• 51:17
  July,
• 51:17
  when
• 51:18
  it's
• 51:19
  40
• 51:19
  degrees
• 51:20
  Celsius,
• 51:21
  sorry
• 51:21
  guys.
• 51:22
  I
• 51:22
  don't
• 51:22
  know
• 51:22
  what
• 51:22
  that
• 51:22
  is
• 51:23
  for
• 51:23
  you.
• 51:23
  We
• 51:23
  were
• 51:24
  blackout.
• 51:25
  We
• 51:25
  had
• 51:25
  blackouts
• 51:25
  all
• 51:26
  the
• 51:26
  time.
• 51:26
  The
• 51:26
  idea
• 51:27
  that
• 51:28
  my
• 51:28
  250
• 51:29
  amp
• 51:29
  sites
• 51:30
  are
• 51:30
  throwing
• 51:30
  things
• 51:30
  off
• 51:31
  now.
• 51:31
  If
• 51:31
  we,
• 51:33
  our
• 51:33
  parks
• 51:33
  need
• 51:34
  are
• 51:34
  gonna
• 51:34
  need
• 51:35
  support
• 51:35
  to
• 51:35
  make
• 51:35
  that
• 51:36
  transition.
• 51:36
  No
• 51:36
  question.
• 51:37
  There's
• 51:37
  this
• 51:37
  middle
• 51:38
  ground,
• 51:38
  right?
• 51:38
  Absolutely.
• 51:39
  Yeah.
• 51:40
  Campground
• 51:40
  are
• 51:41
  coming
• 51:41
  up
• 51:41
  this
• 51:41
  way
• 51:41
  to
• 51:42
  handle
• 51:42
  electric.
• 51:43
  Electric
• 51:43
  is.
• 51:44
  Finally
• 51:45
  starting
• 51:45
  this
• 51:45
  way.
• 51:46
  Those
• 51:46
  two
• 51:46
  worlds
• 51:46
  are
• 51:47
  heat,
• 51:47
  but
• 51:47
  neither
• 51:48
  world
• 51:48
  is
• 51:48
  there
• 51:49
  yet
• 51:50
  parts
• 51:50
  aren't
• 51:50
  ready
• 51:50
  for
• 51:51
  them.
• 51:51
  And
• 51:51
  the
• 51:51
  vehicles
• 51:52
  aren't
• 51:52
  there.
• 51:52
  There's
• 51:52
  a
• 51:53
  few
• 51:53
  year
• 51:53
  gap
• 51:54
  before
• 51:55
  this
• 51:55
  becomes
• 51:56
  really
• 51:57
  start
• 51:57
  planning.
• 51:57
  Now,
• 51:58
  obviously
• 51:59
  there's
• 52:00
  no
• 52:00
  quite
• 52:00
  out
• 52:00
  that
• 52:00
  parts
• 52:01
  planned
• 52:01
  for
• 52:01
  it
• 52:01
  yesterday.
• 52:02
  No
• 52:02
  doubt
• 52:02
  about
• 52:03
  it.
• 52:03
  But
• 52:03
  we're
• 52:03
  in
• 52:04
  that
• 52:04
  nebulous
• 52:04
  zone
• 52:04
  in
• 52:05
  between
• 52:05
  those
• 52:05
  two
• 52:05
  worlds,
• 52:06
  I
• 52:06
  think.
• 52:06
  And
• 52:06
  Brian,
• 52:07
  to
• 52:07
  your
• 52:07
  point
• 52:07
  about
• 52:07
  the
• 52:07
  task
• 52:08
  force,
• 52:09
  I
• 52:10
  would
• 52:10
  say
• 52:10
  yes.
• 52:10
  As
• 52:10
  long
• 52:11
  as
• 52:11
  the
• 52:11
  press
• 52:11
  release,
• 52:11
  they're
• 52:12
  gonna
• 52:12
  talk
• 52:12
  about
• 52:12
  stuff
• 52:13
  and
• 52:13
  we'll
• 52:13
  get
• 52:14
  back
• 52:14
  to
• 52:14
  you.
• 52:14
  That's
• 52:14
  all
• 52:15
  the
• 52:15
  press
• 52:15
  release
• 52:15
  needs
• 52:16
  to
• 52:16
  say.
• 52:16
  Cause
• 52:16
  it's
• 52:17
  self.
• 52:19
  No,
• 52:19
  I
• 52:19
  think
• 52:19
  if
• 52:19
  they
• 52:19
  said
• 52:20
  that
• 52:20
  we
• 52:20
  would
• 52:20
  be
• 52:20
  on
• 52:20
  here
• 52:20
  saying,
• 52:21
  what
• 52:21
  are
• 52:21
  they
• 52:21
  gonna
• 52:21
  talk
• 52:21
  about?
• 52:22
  What
• 52:22
  are
• 52:22
  they
• 52:22
  gonna
• 52:22
  talk
• 52:23
  about?
• 52:26
  it's
• 52:26
  interesting
• 52:26
  though.
• 52:27
  True
• 52:27
  speculation
• 52:28
  is
• 52:28
  entertaining.
• 52:29
  Sorry,
• 52:29
  Casey,
• 52:30
  go
• 52:30
  ahead.
• 52:30
  No,
• 52:30
  I
• 52:31
  was
• 52:31
  gonna
• 52:31
  say
• 52:31
  with
• 52:31
  the
• 52:31
  charging
• 52:32
  stations,
• 52:32
  it's
• 52:32
  interesting
• 52:33
  because
• 52:34
  a
• 52:34
  lot
• 52:34
  of
• 52:34
  the
• 52:34
  charging
• 52:35
  stations
• 52:35
  currently
• 52:37
  they
• 52:37
  have
• 52:37
  attached
• 52:37
  themselves
• 52:38
  to
• 52:38
  hotels.
• 52:39
  Like
• 52:39
  hotels
• 52:39
  have
• 52:40
  100%.
• 52:41
  Said,
• 52:42
  this
• 52:42
  is
• 52:43
  where
• 52:43
  we
• 52:43
  see
• 52:43
  this
• 52:43
  going
• 52:44
  and
• 52:44
  we
• 52:44
  want
• 52:44
  to
• 52:44
  be,
• 52:45
  I
• 52:45
  personally
• 52:45
  have
• 52:46
  stayed
• 52:46
  at
• 52:46
  hotels
• 52:47
  because
• 52:47
  it's
• 52:47
  en
• 52:47
  route
• 52:48
  to
• 52:48
  a
• 52:48
  kid's
• 52:48
  baseball
• 52:49
  game
• 52:49
  that
• 52:49
  I
• 52:49
  can
• 52:50
  plug
• 52:50
  in
• 52:50
  at.
• 52:50
  I've
• 52:51
  used
• 52:51
  it
• 52:51
  multiple
• 52:51
  times
• 52:52
  only
• 52:52
  because
• 52:53
  of
• 52:53
  that
• 52:53
  reason.
• 52:53
  I
• 52:53
  gotta
• 52:54
  imagine
• 52:54
  there's
• 52:54
  some
• 52:54
  data
• 52:55
  around,
• 52:55
  the
• 52:55
  value
• 52:56
  of
• 52:56
  adding
• 52:56
  that
• 52:57
  type
• 52:57
  of
• 52:57
  charging
• 52:57
  station
• 52:58
  and
• 52:59
  the
• 52:59
  revenue
• 52:59
  that
• 52:59
  it's
• 53:00
  gonna
• 53:00
  potentially
• 53:00
  bring
• 53:01
  to
• 53:01
  that.
• 53:02
  Or
• 53:02
  maybe
• 53:02
  if
• 53:02
  it's
• 53:02
  supplementing
• 53:03
  with
• 53:03
  the
• 53:03
  restaurants
• 53:04
  that
• 53:04
  are
• 53:04
  around
• 53:04
  there,
• 53:04
  because
• 53:05
  again,
• 53:05
  you're
• 53:05
  charging
• 53:06
  for
• 53:06
  40
• 53:06
  minutes
• 53:07
  where
• 53:07
  you
• 53:07
  knew
• 53:07
  you're
• 53:07
  gonna
• 53:07
  eat.
• 53:08
  You're
• 53:08
  gonna
• 53:08
  sit
• 53:08
  there
• 53:08
  and
• 53:08
  flip
• 53:08
  through
• 53:09
  your
• 53:09
  phone
• 53:09
  or
• 53:09
  whatever,
• 53:10
  but
• 53:10
  you're
• 53:10
  looking
• 53:11
  for
• 53:11
  a
• 53:11
  destination
• 53:11
  where
• 53:12
  you
• 53:12
  can
• 53:12
  charge
• 53:13
  at
• 53:13
  some
• 53:13
  point
• 53:13
  overnight
• 53:14
  and
• 53:14
  hotels
• 53:15
  that
• 53:15
  they
• 53:15
  are
• 53:15
  taking
• 53:15
  advantage
• 53:16
  of
• 53:16
  it.
• 53:16
  It's
• 53:16
  a
• 53:16
  matter
• 53:17
  of,
• 53:17
  is
• 53:17
  there
• 53:17
  Campground
• 53:18
  that
• 53:18
  are
• 53:18
  on
• 53:18
  some
• 53:19
  of
• 53:19
  these
• 53:19
  interstates
• 53:20
  that
• 53:20
  are
• 53:20
  these
• 53:21
  overnight
• 53:21
  aspects
• 53:22
  of
• 53:22
  things
• 53:23
  you
• 53:23
  can
• 53:23
  charge
• 53:24
  for
• 53:24
  it,
• 53:24
  right?
• 53:24
  It's
• 53:24
  not
• 53:24
  like
• 53:24
  you
• 53:25
  can't
• 53:25
  charge
• 53:25
  for
• 53:25
  it's
• 53:25
  a
• 53:26
  matter,
• 53:26
  do
• 53:26
  they
• 53:26
  wanna
• 53:26
  invest
• 53:27
  in
• 53:27
  it?
• 53:27
  Because
• 53:28
  it
• 53:28
  will
• 53:28
  become
• 53:28
  relevant
• 53:29
  because
• 53:29
  as
• 53:29
  much
• 53:30
  as
• 53:30
  I
• 53:30
  hate
• 53:30
  always
• 53:30
  comparing
• 53:32
  hotels
• 53:32
  to
• 53:32
  the
• 53:32
  Camping
• 53:33
  industry,
• 53:33
  I
• 53:33
  think
• 53:33
  the
• 53:33
  Camping
• 53:34
  industry
• 53:34
  is.
• 53:34
  So
• 53:35
  much
• 53:35
  better
• 53:35
  and
• 53:35
  so
• 53:35
  much
• 53:36
  more
• 53:36
  unique
• 53:36
  and
• 53:36
  there's
• 53:36
  so
• 53:37
  many
• 53:37
  more
• 53:37
  cool
• 53:37
  things.
• 53:37
  And
• 53:38
  within
• 53:38
  it,
• 53:39
  the
• 53:40
  fact
• 53:40
  that
• 53:40
  they
• 53:40
  have
• 53:40
  taken,
• 53:41
  they
• 53:41
  have
• 53:41
  made
• 53:42
  a
• 53:42
  massive
• 53:42
  investment
• 53:43
  in
• 53:43
  over
• 53:43
  the
• 53:43
  last
• 53:43
  10
• 53:44
  years.
• 53:44
  I
• 53:44
  think
• 53:45
  parks
• 53:45
  can,
• 53:46
  there's
• 53:46
  an
• 53:46
  opportunity
• 53:47
  there
• 53:47
  cuz
• 53:47
  then
• 53:47
  they're
• 53:47
  staying
• 53:47
  there
• 53:48
  overnight,
• 53:48
  hopefully.
• 53:48
  And
• 53:48
  you're
• 53:48
  getting
• 53:49
  that
• 53:49
  business
• 53:49
  that
• 53:49
  way.
• 53:50
  Absolutely.
• 53:51
  And
• 53:51
  this
• 53:51
  kind
• 53:51
  of
• 53:51
  goes
• 53:52
  back
• 53:52
  to
• 53:52
  the
• 53:52
  whole
• 53:53
  idea
• 53:53
  of
• 53:53
  policing
• 53:54
  things
• 53:54
  that
• 53:54
  Ruben
• 53:55
  brought
• 53:55
  back
• 53:55
  because
• 53:56
  what
• 53:57
  most,
• 53:57
  a
• 53:57
  lot
• 53:57
  of
• 53:57
  my
• 53:57
  parks
• 53:58
  are
• 53:58
  experiencing
• 53:59
  now
• 53:59
  is
• 53:59
  people
• 53:59
  come
• 54:00
  in
• 54:00
  with
• 54:00
  their
• 54:00
  electric
• 54:01
  cars.
• 54:01
  They
• 54:02
  don't
• 54:02
  know
• 54:02
  it's
• 54:02
  an
• 54:03
  electric
• 54:03
  car
• 54:03
  or
• 54:03
  not.
• 54:03
  They
• 54:03
  don't
• 54:04
  watch
• 54:04
  'em
• 54:04
  as
• 54:04
  they
• 54:05
  come
• 54:05
  in.
• 54:05
  Then
• 54:06
  they
• 54:06
  go
• 54:06
  plug
• 54:06
  up
• 54:07
  at
• 54:07
  the
• 54:07
  post.
• 54:07
  That
• 54:07
  post
• 54:08
  is
• 54:08
  not
• 54:08
  metered.
• 54:09
  And
• 54:09
  so
• 54:09
  now
• 54:10
  their
• 54:11
  profit
• 54:11
  margin
• 54:12
  is
• 54:12
  reduced
• 54:12
  because
• 54:13
  they're
• 54:13
  charging
• 54:14
  their
• 54:14
  electric
• 54:14
  car.
• 54:15
  So
• 54:15
  even
• 54:15
  if
• 54:15
  nothing
• 54:16
  happens,
• 54:16
  even
• 54:16
  if
• 54:17
  there's
• 54:17
  no
• 54:17
  brown
• 54:17
  out,
• 54:18
  no
• 54:18
  damage,
• 54:19
  it
• 54:20
  still
• 54:20
  lowered
• 54:20
  their
• 54:20
  costs.
• 54:21
  Now
• 54:21
  you
• 54:21
  take
• 54:22
  that
• 54:22
  across
• 54:22
  multiple
• 54:23
  sites
• 54:23
  as
• 54:23
  they
• 54:23
  become
• 54:24
  more
• 54:24
  important,
• 54:24
  more
• 54:25
  popular.
• 54:26
  And
• 54:26
  so
• 54:27
  parks
• 54:27
  don't
• 54:28
  wanna
• 54:28
  have
• 54:28
  to
• 54:28
  go
• 54:28
  out
• 54:29
  and
• 54:29
  police
• 54:29
  it
• 54:29
  and
• 54:29
  they
• 54:30
  don't
• 54:30
  know
• 54:30
  what
• 54:30
  to
• 54:30
  do
• 54:31
  or
• 54:31
  how
• 54:31
  to
• 54:31
  talk
• 54:31
  to
• 54:31
  that.
• 54:33
  They're
• 54:33
  trying
• 54:33
  to
• 54:33
  give
• 54:34
  good
• 54:34
  guest
• 54:34
  experience,
• 54:35
  but
• 54:35
  they
• 54:35
  hate
• 54:35
  to
• 54:35
  go
• 54:36
  out
• 54:36
  and
• 54:36
  say,
• 54:36
  Hey,
• 54:37
  you
• 54:37
  can't
• 54:37
  plug
• 54:38
  up
• 54:38
  at
• 54:38
  that
• 54:38
  post.
• 54:38
  I'm
• 54:38
  not
• 54:39
  charging
• 54:39
  you
• 54:39
  for
• 54:39
  that.
• 54:40
  So
• 54:41
  I
• 54:41
  think
• 54:41
  that'll
• 54:41
  be
• 54:41
  a
• 54:41
  big
• 54:42
  topic
• 54:42
  this
• 54:42
  year
• 54:42
  at
• 54:42
  Arabic
• 54:43
  will
• 54:43
  be
• 54:43
  this
• 54:43
  metered
• 54:44
  post
• 54:44
  thing,
• 54:45
  is
• 54:45
  everyone
• 54:45
  gonna
• 54:46
  move
• 54:46
  to
• 54:46
  that?
• 54:46
  Is
• 54:47
  everyone,
• 54:47
  do
• 54:47
  you
• 54:47
  have
• 54:48
  to
• 54:48
  do
• 54:48
  that
• 54:48
  in
• 54:48
  order
• 54:48
  to
• 54:49
  have
• 54:49
  a
• 54:49
  profitable
• 54:49
  business?
• 54:50
  Don't
• 54:50
  think
• 54:50
  it's
• 54:50
  quite
• 54:51
  there
• 54:51
  yet,
• 54:51
  but
• 54:51
  that's
• 54:51
  probably
• 54:52
  something
• 54:53
  that
• 54:53
  eventually,
• 54:53
  you
• 54:53
  know,
• 54:54
  that's
• 54:54
  gonna
• 54:54
  become
• 54:54
  a
• 54:54
  pretty
• 54:54
  relevant
• 54:55
  topic
• 54:55
  too.
• 54:57
  All
• 54:57
  right.
• 54:57
  I
• 54:57
  think
• 54:57
  we
• 54:57
  gotta
• 54:58
  wrap
• 54:58
  up
• 54:58
  guys
• 54:59
  great
• 54:59
  conversation
• 54:59
  as
• 54:59
  always.
• 55:00
  We
• 55:00
  could
• 55:00
  probably
• 55:00
  be
• 55:00
  taking
• 55:00
  another
• 55:01
  hour
• 55:01
  if
• 55:01
  we
• 55:01
  really
• 55:01
  wanted
• 55:02
  to,
• 55:02
  but
• 55:02
  we're
• 55:02
  a
• 55:02
  little
• 55:02
  bit
• 55:02
  over
• 55:03
  an
• 55:03
  hour
• 55:03
  and
• 55:03
  I
• 55:03
  know
• 55:03
  all
• 55:04
  of
• 55:04
  you
• 55:04
  have
• 55:04
  other
• 55:05
  important
• 55:05
  things
• 55:05
  to
• 55:05
  do
• 55:05
  besides
• 55:06
  sitting
• 55:06
  here
• 55:06
  and
• 55:06
  chatting
• 55:07
  with
• 55:07
  us.
• 55:07
  So
• 55:07
  I
• 55:08
  apologize
• 55:08
  for
• 55:08
  my
• 55:08
  internet
• 55:09
  connection
• 55:09
  today.
• 55:09
  I
• 55:09
  was
• 55:09
  in
• 55:10
  and
• 55:10
  out.
• 55:10
  I
• 55:10
  didn't
• 55:10
  get
• 55:10
  a
• 55:10
  chance
• 55:11
  in
• 55:11
  the
• 55:11
  beginning
• 55:11
  to
• 55:11
  thank
• 55:11
  our
• 55:12
  sponsor
• 55:12
  for
• 55:12
  the
• 55:12
  show,
• 55:13
  which
• 55:13
  is
• 55:13
  Fireside
• 55:14
  accounting.
• 55:14
  I
• 55:14
  dunno
• 55:15
  if
• 55:15
  their
• 55:15
  Banner's
• 55:15
  gonna
• 55:15
  come
• 55:16
  up
• 55:16
  in
• 55:16
  front
• 55:16
  of
• 55:16
  us
• 55:16
  here.
• 55:17
  Hopefully
• 55:17
  it.
• 55:17
  For
• 55:18
  whatever
• 55:18
  reason,
• 55:18
  I'm
• 55:18
  still
• 55:18
  chopping
• 55:19
  on
• 55:19
  the
• 55:19
  back
• 55:19
  end
• 55:19
  over
• 55:20
  here,
• 55:20
  but
• 55:20
  super
• 55:20
  grateful
• 55:21
  for
• 55:21
  Fireside
• 55:21
  accounting
• 55:22
  for
• 55:22
  sponsoring
• 55:22
  this
• 55:22
  episode.
• 55:23
  We
• 55:23
  say
• 55:23
  it
• 55:23
  always
• 55:24
  but
• 55:24
  as
• 55:24
  you
• 55:24
  go
• 55:24
  through
• 55:25
  different
• 55:25
  milestones
• 55:26
  and
• 55:26
  different
• 55:26
  events
• 55:27
  and
• 55:27
  in
• 55:27
  the
• 55:27
  course
• 55:27
  of
• 55:27
  your
• 55:28
  park
• 55:28
  it's
• 55:28
  always
• 55:28
  the
• 55:29
  best
• 55:29
  time
• 55:29
  to
• 55:30
  get
• 55:30
  an
• 55:30
  expert
• 55:31
  accountant
• 55:31
  on
• 55:31
  your
• 55:32
  team.
• 55:32
  But
• 55:32
  like
• 55:32
  now
• 55:33
  we've
• 55:33
  got
• 55:33
  inflation
• 55:33
  and
• 55:34
  now
• 55:34
  we've
• 55:34
  got
• 55:34
  new
• 55:34
  tax
• 55:35
  loans
• 55:35
  and
• 55:35
  all
• 55:35
  those
• 55:36
  kinds
• 55:36
  of
• 55:36
  things.
• 55:36
  And
• 55:36
  so
• 55:37
  bringing
• 55:37
  somebody
• 55:38
  in
• 55:38
  Lindsay
• 55:38
  and
• 55:38
  her
• 55:38
  team
• 55:38
  is
• 55:39
  always
• 55:39
  a
• 55:39
  good
• 55:39
  idea.
• 55:40
  They
• 55:40
  just
• 55:40
  know
• 55:40
  the
• 55:40
  industry
• 55:41
  and
• 55:41
  all
• 55:41
  the
• 55:41
  ins
• 55:41
  and
• 55:41
  outs
• 55:42
  and
• 55:42
  can
• 55:42
  probably
• 55:42
  help
• 55:42
  you
• 55:42
  save
• 55:43
  quite
• 55:43
  a
• 55:43
  significant
• 55:44
  amount
• 55:44
  of
• 55:45
  money
• 55:45
  on
• 55:46
  your
• 55:46
  taxes
• 55:46
  and
• 55:46
  do
• 55:47
  your
• 55:47
  bookkeeping
• 55:47
  properly.
• 55:48
  So
• 55:48
  again,
• 55:48
  thank
• 55:48
  you
• 55:48
  for
• 55:49
  accounting.
• 55:50
  Any
• 55:50
  final
• 55:50
  thoughts
• 55:50
  from
• 55:50
  anybody
• 55:51
  before
• 55:51
  we
• 55:51
  head
• 55:51
  out?
• 55:54
  Okay.
• 55:56
  Yeah.
• 55:57
  Nothing
• 55:58
  else.
• 55:58
  All
• 55:58
  right.
• 55:58
  Thanks
• 55:58
  guys.
• 55:59
  Oh,
• 55:59
  no,
• 56:00
  it's
• 56:00
  super
• 56:00
  shoppy
• 56:01
  for
• 56:01
  me
• 56:01
  but
• 56:01
  thank
• 56:01
  you
• 56:01
  guys.
• 56:02
  I
• 56:02
  really
• 56:02
  appreciate
• 56:02
  it
• 56:02
  again.
• 56:03
  Ruben,
• 56:03
  can
• 56:03
  we
• 56:03
  announce
• 56:04
  what
• 56:04
  we're
• 56:04
  gonna
• 56:04
  do
• 56:05
  next
• 56:05
  week?
• 56:05
  Is
• 56:05
  it
• 56:05
  a
• 56:05
  thing
• 56:06
  or
• 56:06
  should
• 56:06
  we
• 56:06
  hold
• 56:07
  off?
• 56:08
  All
• 56:08
  right.
• 56:09
  So
• 56:09
  next
• 56:09
  week
• 56:09
  we
• 56:09
  normally
• 56:10
  do
• 56:10
  theme
• 56:10
  shows.
• 56:11
  If
• 56:11
  you
• 56:11
  guys
• 56:11
  are
• 56:11
  unaware.
• 56:12
  Our
• 56:12
  first
• 56:12
  week
• 56:12
  of
• 56:12
  the
• 56:13
  month
• 56:13
  is
• 56:13
  the
• 56:13
  Campground
• 56:14
  discussion
• 56:14
  show
• 56:14
  that
• 56:14
  we're
• 56:14
  having
• 56:15
  right
• 56:15
  now.
• 56:16
  The
• 56:16
  second
• 56:16
  week
• 56:16
  of
• 56:16
  the
• 56:16
  month
• 56:17
  is
• 56:17
  UN
• 56:17
  themed.
• 56:17
  The
• 56:18
  third
• 56:18
  is
• 56:18
  the
• 56:18
  Campground
• 56:18
  owners
• 56:19
  and
• 56:19
  the
• 56:19
  fourth
• 56:19
  is
• 56:19
  RV
• 56:20
  industry.
• 56:20
  And
• 56:20
  then
• 56:20
  once
• 56:21
  in
• 56:21
  a
• 56:21
  while
• 56:21
  we
• 56:21
  have
• 56:21
  a
• 56:21
  fifth,
• 56:21
  that's
• 56:22
  terrible,
• 56:22
  cuz
• 56:22
  I
• 56:22
  can't
• 56:22
  get
• 56:22
  enough
• 56:23
  guests
• 56:23
  for
• 56:23
  it
• 56:23
  cuz
• 56:23
  it's
• 56:24
  randomly
• 56:24
  unplanned.
• 56:25
  But
• 56:25
  the
• 56:26
  second
• 56:26
  week
• 56:26
  we're
• 56:27
  going
• 56:27
  to
• 56:27
  focus
• 56:28
  on
• 56:28
  a
• 56:28
  glamping
• 56:29
  themed
• 56:29
  episode
• 56:30
  going
• 56:30
  forward.
• 56:31
  And
• 56:31
  so
• 56:32
  Ruben
• 56:32
  is
• 56:32
  gonna
• 56:32
  shift
• 56:33
  from
• 56:33
  the
• 56:33
  open
• 56:33
  discussion
• 56:34
  show.
• 56:34
  He's
• 56:34
  gonna
• 56:34
  join
• 56:35
  us
• 56:35
  on
• 56:35
  the
• 56:35
  second
• 56:35
  week
• 56:36
  going
• 56:36
  forward.
• 56:36
  He'll
• 56:36
  be
• 56:37
  here
• 56:37
  next
• 56:37
  week
• 56:37
  too.
• 56:38
  And
• 56:38
  then
• 56:38
  every
• 56:38
  second
• 56:39
  week
• 56:39
  going
• 56:39
  forward
• 56:40
  and
• 56:40
  we're
• 56:40
  currently
• 56:41
  putting
• 56:41
  together
• 56:41
  a
• 56:41
  roster
• 56:42
  of
• 56:42
  really
• 56:42
  cool
• 56:42
  glamping,
• 56:43
  experts,
• 56:44
  owners,
• 56:44
  people
• 56:45
  like
• 56:45
  that
• 56:45
  who
• 56:46
  can
• 56:46
  really
• 56:46
  dive
• 56:46
  into
• 56:47
  the
• 56:47
  glamping
• 56:47
  trends
• 56:47
  and
• 56:48
  things
• 56:48
  like
• 56:48
  that.
• 56:48
  So
• 56:48
  we're
• 56:48
  excited
• 56:49
  to
• 56:49
  launch
• 56:50
  that
• 56:50
  next
• 56:50
  week,
• 56:51
  see
• 56:51
  where
• 56:51
  that
• 56:51
  goes.
• 56:52
  I'm
• 56:52
  really
• 56:52
  excited
• 56:53
  for
• 56:53
  that.
• 56:53
  So
• 56:54
  other
• 56:54
  than
• 56:54
  that,
• 56:55
  we
• 56:55
  gotta
• 56:55
  get
• 56:55
  outta
• 56:55
  here
• 56:55
  two
• 56:56
  and
• 56:56
  a
• 56:56
  half
• 56:56
  minutes
• 56:56
  over.
• 56:57
  Thank
• 56:57
  you
• 56:57
  guys.
• 56:57
  Really
• 56:57
  appreciate
• 56:58
  you
• 56:58
  watching
• 56:58
  and
• 56:58
  joining
• 56:59
  us
• 56:59
  for
• 56:59
  another
• 56:59
  episode
• 57:00
  here.
• 57:00
  Hopefully
• 57:01
  my
• 57:01
  internet
• 57:01
  will
• 57:01
  be
• 57:01
  better
• 57:01
  next
• 57:02
  week
• 57:02
  and
• 57:02
  we'll
• 57:02
  see
• 57:02
  you
• 57:03
  all
• 57:03
  then.