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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Todd Zinser, Vivek, Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: There's a woo-hoo, and, well, that song's maybe a little prophetic.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody listen to Glenn Beck yesterday? Hey, happy Friday. Try
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  Speaker 1: to have one anyway. Halloween Eve. Got anything going on
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  Speaker 1: on Halloween? Eh, we got a lot going on on
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  Speaker 1: the 55KRC Morning Show. Brian Thomas right here. Glad to
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  Speaker 1: see Joe Strecker and the lineup. Joe Strecker, executive producer,
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  Speaker 1: has got a great lineup, as always. Tech Friday with
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  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter. Just amazing to have Dave around. We are
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  Speaker 1: so blessed to have him, especially with, well, $ 6 billion
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  Speaker 1: in crypto hack. DHS hacked again. Anyway, a lot to unpackage.
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  Speaker 1: So today, how secure are U.S. elections? Voting machine risks.
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  Speaker 1: Topic number one with Tech Friday's Dave Hatter coming up
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  Speaker 1: at 6.30. Latest MapQuest update. Actually showing you where the
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  Speaker 1: automatic license plate readers are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: World's filled with information. You can post it. Hey, there's
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  Speaker 1: a license plate reader. Let me just post that information online. Yeah, okay. Waymo,
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  Speaker 1: robo-taxi operators are, well, dealing with some extra scrutiny because
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  Speaker 1: emergency response failures. In studio for a full hour. Welcome back. Man,
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  Speaker 1: we should all be blessed to have around, or thank
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  Speaker 1: the world, or thank the God that we have around us.
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  Speaker 1: Citizen watchdog Todd Zinser. We have him on the financial side.
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  Speaker 1: Former Inspector General for the United States of America is
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  Speaker 1: in Inspector General for all of us using his retirement
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  Speaker 1: time to look out for the shenanigans going on in
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  Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati. We'll start off with the one about the,
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  Speaker 1: did you hear the one about the $ 353, 000 lawsuit against
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  Speaker 1: the city? Just one of multiple topics. Go over with
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  Speaker 1: Todd Zinser. You should follow him on Facebook. Just look
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  Speaker 1: for Citizen Watchdog and listen to his podcast. The man's brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: Really brilliant. Vivek Ramaswamy. He will be back today. He
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  Speaker 1: was on yesterday. He's on today. Obviously, we're Wrapping up
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  Speaker 1: the moments in time before the election next Tuesday. One
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  Speaker 1: more opportunity for Mr. Ramaswamy to convince you why he's
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  Speaker 1: infinitely better in all ways than Amy Acton. Anybody worried
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  Speaker 1: about next Tuesday? Jack Windsor, How Press Network. Talk about
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  Speaker 1: the media carrying the water for liberal candidates. Yes, over
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  Speaker 1: and over again. I was banging the drum on that
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  Speaker 1: one yesterday. Democratic AG candidate Kulowitz and his indiscretions. Ooh,
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  Speaker 1: that should be interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Plus.
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  Speaker 1: He'll have a comment or two about getting out and vote.
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  Speaker 1: Jack Windsor, 830. And you, anytime you want to call,
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  Speaker 1: as long as there's not a guest around, like beginning
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  Speaker 1: at 630 and thereafter, you can call up until that
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  Speaker 1: moment in time.
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  Speaker 4: 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
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  Speaker 1: Bound 550 on your AT & T phones. Where to start? Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of, I listen, I will be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you, and although I remind people at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the program every day, stick around because Glenn Beck's
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  Speaker 1: coming up, I do not normally listen to that show.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to sort of decompress after the morning show.
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  Speaker 1: I typically, I listen to music on the way home,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll go home and pull my laptop out like
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  Speaker 1: almost every day and try to find some old movie
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  Speaker 1: that's got nothing to do with gloom and doom or
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  Speaker 1: problems in the world, death and dismemberment. No, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to watch an old movie, like a film noir.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm often dealing with death, but, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: want to just relax. So there's my excuse for not
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  Speaker 1: listening to Glenn Beck. But for some reason, I had
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  Speaker 1: him on yesterday. And this prepare for impact, I got
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  Speaker 1: most of it. It was just weird because the timing
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  Speaker 1: almost allowed me to hear everything he had to say.
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  Speaker 1: And he, like I did earlier in the week, so
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  Speaker 1: this is before Glenn Beck's pronouncements on this, saw a
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  Speaker 1: pattern developing. We had the European Union, or rather the
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  Speaker 1: United Kingdom, And it's directive to its citizen, the Be
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  Speaker 1: Ready campaign, urging households to stockpile three days of non-perishable food, water, medicine, flashlights,
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  Speaker 1: and physical cash. The UK. And then the other one
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  Speaker 1: that I tied to the UK announcement because the timing
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  Speaker 1: was surprisingly, you know, coincidental maybe, maybe intentional. It seems
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  Speaker 1: to be more or less than coincidence after you hear Beck,
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  Speaker 1: but this Fortress initiative by the United States military, which
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  Speaker 1: will allow U.S. military bases to live independently off the
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  Speaker 1: grid with their own power generation and their own supplies
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  Speaker 1: for a full 90 days. 90 days. So the U.S.
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  Speaker 1: military is getting prepared for something, or at least maybe
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  Speaker 1: just give them props and credit for planning ahead. You know,
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  Speaker 1: with hindsight, we usually go, well, how in the hell
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  Speaker 1: didn't our elected officials realize that this could be a
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  Speaker 1: major problem? Well, it could be that. But the United
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  Speaker 1: Kingdom issuing that warning and then a bunch of other
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  Speaker 1: European countries also urging their citizens to do the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: This prepare for impact, the stowing away of several days
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  Speaker 1: worth of supplies that allow you to deal without any supermarkets,
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  Speaker 1: with no water, perhaps having no electricity, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: it's scary when you hear about it. And Glenn Beck
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  Speaker 1: did this back in 2007. And he said it. He goes,
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  Speaker 1: I remember I said the same thing back in 2007.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember my wife at that time was saying, God,
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  Speaker 1: it's just all gloom and doom. The world's coming to
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  Speaker 1: an end. Glenn Beck is just on this tear. And
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  Speaker 1: I was just basically tired of listening to it. I
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  Speaker 1: understand that reaction as well. And I kind of had
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  Speaker 1: the same reaction yesterday. Is this him just ginning up
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  Speaker 1: concern in advance of the election? Or is he legitimately concerned?
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  Speaker 1: You can draw your own conclusions. It seemed to me
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  Speaker 1: he was, and he said multiple times, take this for
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  Speaker 1: what it's worth. You know, you don't have to listen
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  Speaker 1: to me. You can think that I'm a nutcase. This
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  Speaker 1: is my recitation or boiled down version of it. But
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  Speaker 1: he was acknowledging that there would be critics and skeptics
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  Speaker 1: out there in connection with what he was telling people.
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  Speaker 1: But when you hear about all these different countries, not simultaneously,
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  Speaker 1: but within a close period of time, issuing the same
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  Speaker 1: sort of, in his boiled down explanation, prepare for impact warnings,
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  Speaker 1: kind of, should, I guess, raise some concern in your mind.
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  Speaker 1: At least you've got to pay attention a little bit
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  Speaker 1: to it, and then back up from that and think,
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  Speaker 1: wait a second. If you look at our federal government's websites,
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  Speaker 1: the preparedness, they have been saying this for years and
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  Speaker 1: years and years, the same information, three days. And Bobby
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  Speaker 1: calls all the time here on the program, 72 hours,
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  Speaker 1: 72 hours, and the point that Glenn Beck made tying
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  Speaker 1: all that together, which is, listen, if the government can't
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  Speaker 1: get the information crisis managed within 72 hours, that's when
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  Speaker 1: the wheels start falling off. And he pointed to like
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  Speaker 1: Hurricane Katrina, for example, you know, for a few days there, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was terrible. It was tragic. And we were getting
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  Speaker 1: reports of death and, you know, the water issues and
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  Speaker 1: flooding and people stuck and all that. But after that,
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  Speaker 1: that's when the looting starts. That's when people start going crazy.
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  Speaker 1: That's when people who didn't have sufficient food for several
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  Speaker 1: days realize that Man, there ain't nothing else out there.
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  Speaker 1: Without that supply, without those three days' worth of provisions
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  Speaker 1: that will keep you through for that, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be really hungry by day three. If you don't have
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  Speaker 1: any water flowing, no fresh water, potable water, you might
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  Speaker 1: be a little bit thirsty. I realize that water is
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  Speaker 1: probably the least of most people's concerns. Somewhere there is water,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's polluted or not. But, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's that 72-hour window. And so here I am. After
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  Speaker 1: I heard this, you know, you go home and kind
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  Speaker 1: of take inventory of what you've got. I did. Do
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  Speaker 1: I have everything that's necessary for the family to get
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  Speaker 1: through this period of time? It may be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit longer because, of course, three days is one thing
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  Speaker 1: based upon the statistical analogy or statistical belief that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: after 72 hours of the government that doesn't have things
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  Speaker 1: sewed up, the wheels are going to fall off. But
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  Speaker 1: what happens beyond that? So, you know, like the government
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  Speaker 1: here planning for 90 days of independence on the military bases.
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  Speaker 1: That's three months. Those who didn't do the math, maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's better to contemplate three months worth of supplies. And
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  Speaker 1: then when you come up with that idea, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that sounds logical and reasonable. How many people can do that?
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  Speaker 1: Therein lies the biggest challenge. I think about people who
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  Speaker 1: live in small apartments. Where are they going to stockpile?
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  Speaker 1: I presume that someone could manage a little corner of
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  Speaker 1: their apartment and stockpile three days' worth of supplies, but
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  Speaker 1: longer period of time? What about the economic challenges? If
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  Speaker 1: you don't have any money or you're living on very
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  Speaker 1: close margins, can you afford to go out and buy extra?
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  Speaker 1: And that's where Glenn Beck pointed. I said, listen, you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to rush to do this. It's not like
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  Speaker 1: you're going to run out and immediately acquire three days'
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  Speaker 1: or months' worth of provisions, do it now. Just start
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  Speaker 1: on the weekend. Buy a thing or two things. Set
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  Speaker 1: it aside. Do it again next week and the following week.
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  Speaker 1: So gradually over time, like buying Christmas gifts, you'll have
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  Speaker 1: accumulated enough stuff to get you through whatever hits the
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  Speaker 1: fan whenever it happens to hit. Now, he didn't guess
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  Speaker 1: if this was going to happen soon. He didn't say no,
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  Speaker 1: but the point was you got to remain calm regardless
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  Speaker 1: of But, you know, the journey of a thousand miles
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  Speaker 1: begins with a step. If you're standing here thinking there's
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  Speaker 1: no way I'll ever be able to get that quantity
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  Speaker 1: of supplies together in short order, well, start now, get
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, and continue the path and the process
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  Speaker 1: until you are adequately supplied, at least in your own mind,
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  Speaker 1: to deal with any challenges you might face. Now, I hope,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I I hated seeing all these warnings come
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  Speaker 1: out at one time. Again, you, you, it's not difficult
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  Speaker 1: to say, can this be coincidence? Can this be coincidence? Maybe,
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: but throwing all conspiracy theories out the window and all
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  Speaker 1: concerns like, is this real? Do we really face this
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  Speaker 1: existential threat that might lead us to have to be
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  Speaker 1: supplied for three days or even longer? Some societal collapse
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  Speaker 1: that the government can't manage, whatever. Um, Wipe that away
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  Speaker 1: and then ask yourself in the concept or in the
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  Speaker 1: thought that I have always carried with me since Boy Scouts,
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  Speaker 1: you know, be prepared is smart advice. And the fool
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  Speaker 1: is the one who's not looking out for his or
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  Speaker 1: her own best interest, as I love to repeat oftentimes
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  Speaker 1: on here in the morning show. So I think it's
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  Speaker 1: sound advice regardless of whether you think the world's falling
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  Speaker 1: apart or whether you think the world is in perfect shape.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: The world is an imperfect place. Remember Breakfast Club? Screws
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  Speaker 1: fall out. So alarmist, perhaps, his advice? Yeah. Maybe not.
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  Speaker 1: But isn't it a smart thing to at least consider
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  Speaker 1: the idea of having enough around to keep yourself alive
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  Speaker 1: for a few days? And I think the answer to
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  Speaker 1: that is absolutely yes. 517, 55 KRC Talk Station. Your reaction,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you heard him say it. What do you think
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  Speaker 1: about that? I'd love to hear from you. It's a
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  Speaker 1: Friday anyway. Let's have some fun until we get to
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  Speaker 1: Tech Friday. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550 on AT & T phones. Oh, look,
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  Speaker 1: the Ebola warning. Tie that to it. I heard media
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  Speaker 1: aviation expert Jay Ratliff here in a moment. Don't go away.
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  Speaker 4: 55 KRC.
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  Speaker 1: On Sunday for game day, clouded with a slight chance
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  Speaker 1: of rain going up to 67 degrees. It's currently 55
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  Speaker 4: I'm Donald J.
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  Speaker 5: Trump, and I approve this message.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Don. It is 521 on a Friday. They
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  Speaker 1: still do damage night on Halloween Friday for Halloween. Ah, yes.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned this story yesterday about my dad, and so
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  Speaker 1: we'd get the pumpkin smashed on Damage Night the night
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  Speaker 1: before Halloween. Some call it Devil's Night. Anyway, it was
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  Speaker 1: the thing to do, go out and commit acts of vandalism,
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: and my dad got pins, and he stuck them through
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: the inside of the jack-o'-lantern to the outside, so really
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: at night you couldn't see it. And I mentioned specifically
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: Tom Murray. Good morning, Tom. If you're out there, his
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: brother Steve is listening. Yep, it worked. Tom grabbed the
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  Speaker 1: pumpkin with the pins in it. He got stabbed with them.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Steve. The Murray brothers. Fond memories of growing
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  Speaker 1: up in my neighborhood as I was a child. I
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: just can't work. And no, I'm not recommending you do that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's actionable, but... Cat Covey Briney
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  Speaker 1: from my lawyer friends out there. That would involve deadly force.
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  Speaker 1: Pins are not deadly force. Anyway, let's pivot over to
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  Speaker 1: maybe the concern Beck was worried about, but the CDC
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  Speaker 1: is clearly worried about it. Ebola-related travel requirements. Going back
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  Speaker 1: to iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff.
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  Speaker 4: They're worried.
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  Speaker 1: Major U.S. international airline groups pushing back against this new
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  Speaker 1: Ebola travel-related requirement that literally will affect millions of people flying.
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  Speaker 1: Beginning November 3rd, all passengers on international flights into the
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  Speaker 1: United States are going to have to confirm that they
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  Speaker 1: have not been in the Democratic Republic of Congo in
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  Speaker 1: the prior 21 days. This announcement from the CDC. It
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  Speaker 1: applies literally to everyone. coming into or connecting through the
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  Speaker 1: United States of America. It doesn't matter whether or not
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  Speaker 1: you're in a citizen. It's American citizen green card holders,
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  Speaker 1: the entire crew of the airline. Every single one is
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  Speaker 1: going to have to complete a paper or digital statement
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  Speaker 1: before boarding, even if they've never visited the Democratic Republic
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  Speaker 1: of Congo. Now, there's several airline groups out there that go, well,
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  Speaker 1: hang on a second. How can we possibly manage this?
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  Speaker 1: The Airlines for America group represents major carriers. including all
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  Speaker 1: the big ones that might immediately come to your mind,
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  Speaker 1: asking the CDC to reconsider and give it, hey, give
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  Speaker 1: us more time. Group says, hey, we support your public
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  Speaker 1: health goal, but these new requirements are way too broad
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  Speaker 1: and they're being introduced too quickly. They asked the government for,
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  Speaker 1: specifically for a more proportionate and measured response, focus more
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  Speaker 1: closely on affected areas and travelers who've actually been there recently.
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  Speaker 1: Fox News interviewed a guy named Dr. Tyler Evans, described
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  Speaker 1: as an actual infectious disease physician, unlike gubernatorial candidate Amy Acton,
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  Speaker 1: whose only research paper involved reviewing other research papers on
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  Speaker 1: horse injuries. This person's an actual infectious disease physician. So
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: someone that's a little more in the know than Amy
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  Speaker 1: Lockdown Acton. See how I did that? He said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we have to ensure that this does not cross borders.
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  Speaker 1: This is the most highly infectious disease, I guess, on
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  Speaker 1: the planet. They're asking the CDC to exempt airline crew members,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: arguing that existing aviation documents already contain information about crews
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: and their travel. So we've got that covered. U.S. military passengers, hey,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: you don't have to do them either because the U.S.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: military keeps track of where these guys are all the time.
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  Speaker 1: So little carve-outs are being requested, but overall the requirement
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  Speaker 1: is there. CDC said the purpose is intended to reduce
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  Speaker 1: the risk of Ebola entering the United States through air travel.
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  Speaker 1: 21-day period, I guess, is the incubation period, the maximum
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  Speaker 1: amount of time it takes for symptoms to appear. And Dr. Evans,
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  Speaker 1: speaking of the infectious nature of Ebola, the reality is,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: he said, Ebola is one of the most infectious and
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  Speaker 1: has one of the highest fatality rates of all infectious diseases.
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  Speaker 1: So as for the affidavit, since we have major concerns
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: going on about voting and whether or not you need
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: to really prove that you are a legitimate U.S. citizen
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: to vote in elections, see how I did that? Travelers
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: that knowingly provide false information, in other words, lie on
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  Speaker 1: the affidavit that you have to fill out, could face
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: prosecution and fines. Nothing to see here. Move on with
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: your day. 525-55-KRC-D Talk Station. Hey, local story's coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, look.
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  Speaker 1: A man found shot in the arm in North Avondale.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: That happened this morning, didn't it, Joe? Nothing to see
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  Speaker 1: there either. Don't go away. Be right back.
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  Speaker 6: 55-KRC.
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  Speaker 1: Get in this. 529 on a Friday.
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  Speaker 7: 513-749-5500.
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  Speaker 4: 800-823-TALK.
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  Speaker 2: Pound 550 on.
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  Speaker 1: Your AT & T phone. Unless you're a carryover from
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: the overnight show. No, there is no such thing as
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: lizard people, and werewolves are not real. Seriously, Joe?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: No, there are no werewolves in real life. There's also
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: no vampires. They just don't exist. And there are no Bigfeet. Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 1: Where do the Bigfeet go to die? How come nobody's
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: ever found a Bigfoot carcass? Do they live forever? They're
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  Speaker 1: not real. Says, hey, police said they're investigating a shooting
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  Speaker 1: in North Avondale. It happened this morning, 2 o'clock or
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: 2.15 in the morning. Man found with a gunshot wound
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  Speaker 1: in one of his arms taken to UC Medical Center.
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  Speaker 1: He is expected to recover. Police said they're working to
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  Speaker 1: find out what led to the shooting. No mention about
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: a suspect. No mention about motives. It just was in
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the 900 block at Dana Avenue this morning. Starting off
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: the weekend right. Bobby is over and under. Three and
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  Speaker 1: a half for violent crime in the city of Cincinnati.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: There's one. Adams County. Deputy and suspect shot last night.
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  Speaker 1: Adams County Sheriff Kenny Dick reported, said the deputies were
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: called to Hope Lane in West Union about 9.30 yesterday
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  Speaker 1: for a report of a mental health-related incident. Investigators say
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  Speaker 1: that when deputies got to the scene, the suspect opened fire.
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  Speaker 1: Deputies fired back. Both the deputy and the suspect were shot,
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  Speaker 1: both taken to UC Medical Center. Extended injuries not known
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  Speaker 1: at the time of reporting, and thanks to Fox 19
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  Speaker 1: for passing along the information. Bureau of Criminal Investigation is investigating.
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  Speaker 1: So if you have any information, please let the authorities know. Oh, wow.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Prior to the third day of testimony, man standing trial
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: and charges related to last year's beat down brawl pleaded guilty.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Patrick Rosemont, 39 years old, pleaded guilty yesterday in Hamilton
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: County Common Police charge to charges of felonious assault, misdemeanor assault,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and aggravated rioting. Sentencing, December 9th. Get your popcorn out.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: He faces up to 31 1⁄2 years in prison. Testimony
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: started October 27th. Four witnesses testified about being attacked 3
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, July 26, 2025, near 4th and Elm.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw the video. Holly, the woman who
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: got almost murdered, suffered a traumatic brain injury. She testified
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: to that. She says it impacted her memories since then.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and may have irreparable damage done.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Because she was trying to lend some help to a
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: fellow victim of the beatdown. Good Samaritan ends up getting
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: almost killed. Prosecutors had previously played the video that they
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: said showed Rosemond striking her in the face, knocking her unconscious.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: The video also shows Rosemond attacking a guy who had
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: been shoved to the street, stomping on him and kicking him.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: During testimony, a detective said that Rosemond was celebrating after
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the beatdown. Look what I did. Yay. Now, prosecutors pointed
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: out Rosemond did not start the brawl. Instead, he just
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: jumped right on into it. He's the sixth person to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: plead guilty in connection with the brawl. This is the
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: brawl where we had elected officials saying a white man
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: needs to be charged. And ultimately, the Russians was charged
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: for nothing at all. And there was an argument about it.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: You must charge a white guy. I mean, I cannot
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: believe the level of racism involved in this particular incident. Anyway,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: it's all there on video. Look, we got guilty pleas
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: from every single person that was involved with it. No
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: defense there. Videos taken from surveillance cameras, as well as
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: every human being standing around with a cell phone capturing it.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: He turned down a plea deal this Roseman guy did
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: just a couple days ago after the judge told him
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that she likely would not follow the recommended four-year prison
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: sentence that came along with a plea agreement. Well, pleading
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: guilty opens him up to facing 31 1⁄2 years in prison.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Okie doke. Man convicted of killing Hamilton County deputy pleaded
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: guilty Wednesday to three counts of assault. sentenced to 18
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: months after an altercation with corrections officers. Huh, does this
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: name sound familiar? Rodney Hinton. Of course, being held in
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Claremont County, awaiting the trial on the death of Hamilton
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: County Deputy Larry Henderson, who he killed in May of 2025. Apparently,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: in December, officer ordered Hinton a towel. at the Claremont
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: County Jail before Hinton told the officers to get the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: F-word off of me, arguing he couldn't walk in jail slippers,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: then threw a punch and kicked while being handcuffed. The
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: officer suffered minor injuries. That was the second incident. That's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: why he's just got 18 months for that one. Back
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: in Hamilton County Court, November 19th, to be sentenced on
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: charges of murder, reckless homicide, and felonious assault for killing
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Deputy Henderson. So you're guaranteed 18 months, question marks swirling
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: about the trial involving Deputy Henderson's death because of the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: jury coming down with a verdict that said he didn't
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: have intent to kill and while at the same time
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: saying he had intent to kill. Reckless homicide can't be
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: reconciled with murder, so you can expect a new trial
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: on that one. But at least you got him in
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: for 18 months guaranteed. It has not yet been completely resolved. 535,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: 55 K or C, the talk station stack.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: Can you play John the Fisherman?
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's Friday. It's 540. The answer is yes. Good morning, Jeff,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: who's always excited about hearing a little Primus. And the
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: stack is stupid, which is coming up next.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I guess he's not listening to me, Joe. I'm not
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: going to take calls about werewolves. I'm serious. You're on hold, man.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about you. I'm not taking the call. Joe's
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: red flagged you. Joe Sarkar is the executive producer. He
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: is in charge of call screening. And while I do
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: have basically kind of an open format show, I try
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to keep it on matters political, local, or otherwise. And
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: since I don't believe in werewolves... Oh, I'm glad I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: can laugh. Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots. I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: don't feel like I've laughed genuinely for some time, so
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I'm rather enjoying this feeling of sort of happiness on
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: a Friday. Memphis, Tennessee. There's a new lawsuit. This is weird,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: but it's a stack of stupid story. Lawsuit filed just
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the other day claims former Memphis Shelby County School superintendent,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: her name, Dr. Marie Fegans. exposed herself to a staff
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: member and then fired her. Staff member, Camelyn Turner, described
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: as a special assistant to the aforementioned Marie Fegans, the superintendent.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Lawsuit claims that Fegans exposed herself in August 24 at Fegans' apartment. Now,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the plaintiff said she was called downstairs to listen to
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: a conversation. When she got to the staircase, she looked
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: down and saw this Fegans woman standing at the foot
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: of the stairs completely naked. The following day, Fegans, well,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: told Turner that she would be transferred and paid less.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: In other words, stripped her of her position.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: That ain't all.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Fegans allegedly exposed herself again in October and demanded Turner
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Come to her home and dress her.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: What?
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I know. She declined. That was when Fegans allegedly said,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know why you're acting like you haven't seen
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: a naked woman before. Turner claims in the lawsuit she
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: was forced to resign 11 days later. Lawsuit claims sexual harassment,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: sex discrimination, retaliation, and constructive discharge. She's asking for back
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: pay and compensatory damages. Okay. We go to St. Francisville, Louisiana.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: A naked guy allegedly took a fire extinguisher from a St.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Francisville church before entering a nearby home and touching a
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: sleeping woman's forehead. Why are you doing that?
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: We're ever going to find out. Me, Police Chief Chris Green.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Said the woman's boyfriend grabbed a gun after she woke
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: up startled. Man still inside the home when the officer
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: showed up. That guy? Heath Allen Brumfield, who's 49, he's
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: from Vicksburg, Mississippi, now facing charges of simple burglary, simple battery,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: and unauthorized entry of an inhabited dwelling. A bad idea,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: most notably here in the state of Ohio where we
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: have the castle doctrine, would be intruders.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: It was 1.30 in the morning on October 20th. Police
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: said surveillance footage shows Brumfield entering a church hall through
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: an unlocked door, taking a fire extinguisher, and then walking
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to a nearby home on the same street. and walking
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: through an unlocked door. Police said Brumfield still had the
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: fire extinguisher, which had the church's information on it when
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the police took him into custody. I'm not letting go
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: of this. Crean said a woman was with Brumfield that night,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: told officers he was not in his right mind. Her words,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: while traveling along the highway, Brumfield allegedly parked his truck
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: across from the post office, walked away with the keys.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Police said Brumfield was sent to Baton Rouge for medical evaluation.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: After authorities obtained a rest warrant, sheriff deputies arrested him
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: as a fugitive. He was then returned to West Valenciana Parish.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Jail records show he was arrested on the 26th of October.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: His bond was set at.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: $ 72, 500.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Police are calling this an isolated incident. Corey, welcome to
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the morning show. Happy Friday to you.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Good morning.
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: Just real quick, the reason I haven't found a Bigfoot
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: carcass is because they're interdimensional.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Are they hanging out with the lizard people? Is that
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: how that works?
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: Possibly, possibly.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: And apparently the werewolves. You're right, Joe. Go ahead.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: Anyway, I know I mentioned it before. I'm driving in
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: Northern Ohio right now again. I see the Sharon Brown
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: billboards everywhere. Every billboard talks about the cost of living
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: being much more expensive. groceries, gas, electricity, and they're hitting
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: on everything that matters to most people that don't follow politics.
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: And I have yet to see a Houston billboard or
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: the Vakes billboard or anything like that. But I see
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: Amy Acton, big Amy Acton signs everywhere. Uh, Sharon Brown
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: stuff everywhere. And, and I think, I think we're in
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: for a shock come Tuesday.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: And, uh, I hear you, man. I can't account for it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And Joe Strecker just reminded me, you know, we've outreached
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the Houston campaign multiple times in deafening years. Nothing back.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I just scratched my head over that. The opportunity to
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: get the word out and maybe do a little, well,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: maybe policy positions articulated because I hear them, the Democrats,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: claiming that they're going to deal with inflation. Oh, my God,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: prices are out of control. Evil orange man did all
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: this to you. But no, I mean. Does anybody have
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: a recollection of a short period of time behind us
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: when Joe Biden and gasoline prices were through the roof
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: because of their policies? Has anybody asked Amy Acton or Democrats,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Sherrod Brown, anybody what they plan on doing to reduce
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the price of gasoline? I mean, there's no way. And
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: even Donald Trump campaigned on that. And I thought mistakenly so.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And I said at the time, I will reduce the
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: price or I will reduce inflation, the price of stuff
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: on day one or words to that effect. Like what
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: human being could possibly accomplish that? It's not possible for
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a sole human being to deal with all the economic
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: realities that go into why gasoline is currently almost five
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: bucks a gallon. Oh yeah, that's right.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: War.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: That has something to do with it. Global warming policies,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: refusing to drill, refusing to tap into natural resources that
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: exist right beneath our own feet. That has something to
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: do with it. Can one person unring the bell of
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: all those policies while at the same time dealing with
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the economic realities that war creates? No. What can the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: This is something we're all going to have to collectively
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: ride out together. I hate having to say that, but
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: it is acknowledgement of fact and reality. That's why I
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: keep saying, someday this war will get resolved and things
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: will go back to what will be the future status quo.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: And thankfully, we have a president who is not against
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: tapping into the resources that are widely available around us. Huh,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: there's a solution brought to you by Donald Trump. Yeah,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: evil orange man, but he's doing the right thing in
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: terms of giving us reliable energy sources. 547, 55KRC, the
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: talk station. Stack is stupid. We'll continue after these words.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: This is 55KRC.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: 551, 552, 55KRC, the talk station. Good morning, Tom, or
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: if you happen to be. And Joe W. sent me
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: an email saying I ruined his plans by giving him
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the information about the travel restrictions to the Democratic Republic. Congo.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: He was all set to go this weekend. Damn it. Anyway,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: back to the stack of stupid. Well, since we have
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Tech Friday's Dave Hatter coming up in the eight stories
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I got left, I'm only going to be able to
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: get a couple of them. Here's one old. Let's see.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: We go to Bergen County, New Jersey. Man was arrested
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: for creating artificial intelligence generated nude images of two adults
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and then post them on the Internet. Daniel G. Pfeiffer,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: 37 years old, you think he'd have something better to do,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: charged with creating and distributing deceptive visual media, invasion of privacy,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: cyber harassment, and harassment. That's a court of the Bergen
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: County Prosecutor's Office who said that in May of this year,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the police contacted them because there was an online social
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: media post depicting two adult victims. It included their real
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: names and photographs alongside artificial intelligence-generated deep fake nude images.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Investigation ultimately identified this Pfeiffer guy as the person responsible.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: They searched his home and determined he had created and
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: distributed the images. Arrested on similar charges in prior years,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: including allegedly posting nude photos of a woman he knew
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: back in 2017. Taken to the Bergen County Jail and
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: is awaiting his first appearance. Get something better to do
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: with your world.
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: And your life.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, hold that. You've got to add this guy to
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: it because he deserves the award more than the guy
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I just read about. Both worthy of the Biggest Deuce
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: in the Universe Award. We go to Gainesville, Florida, while
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Huai Quang Do, I didn't name him, 25 years old,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: charged with nine felonies after allegedly picking up a 12-year-old
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: girl from Lake City, Minnesota. multiple times over eight months,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: bringing her to his apartment and having sex with her.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: 31 felonies have been added to his prior charges. August 4th,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: law enforcement became involved. An adult reported a victim missing.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: She was tracked to Doe's apartment. Both Doe and the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: victim reportedly found inside the apartment. Investigation found that this
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Doe guy met the victim, who was 12 at the time,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: on Tinder. Parents, what are your children doing online? They
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: began regularly communicating by phone. December 25, Doe allegedly drove
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: to Lake City, picked her up, brought her to his
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: apartment in Gainesville, engaged in sexual intercourse with her. Victor
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: reportedly said this happened at least five times most recently
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: in August of this year when she was 13. Search
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: warrants obtained. What do they find? He began communicating with
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the 12-year-old on timber in December 25. That girl... connected
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Doe with her friend, who was the victim in this case,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: created a group chat with all three of them. He
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: learned the same day that both girls were in fact
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: 12 years old. Doe and the victim exchanged text messages
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: for eight hours on the first day before Doe allegedly
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: drove to Lake City to meet her and her friend.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Before leaving for Lake City, Doe reportedly asked the victim
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: whether he should bring condoms, his word, and it was
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: decided that, yeah, he should bring them. Investigators found that
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Doe sexually battered the victim using the condoms in the
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: early morning of hours of December 15th. Doe acknowledged on
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: numerous occasions that the victim was a child, that he
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: knew she was in middle school and going through puberty,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and that he could be arrested. Doe allegedly recorded himself
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: having sex with the victim on most of the occasions
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: when they were together and sent dozens of sexually explicit
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: graphic text messages to the child. repeatedly urged her to
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: send him videos in which she was nude and or
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: touching herself in a sexual matter, and according to the
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: text messages, the victim sometimes complied. Detective noted that Doe
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: hurled cruel insults, that's from the report, at the victim
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: almost daily, and the text messages exposed the depth of
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the manipulation, abuse, and exploitation of the child, i.e. the victim,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: by this creep. 87 images of the victim were classified
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: as child porn found on his phone. More images that
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: were described as lewd and lascivious in nature. Here are
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: your charges. Two counts of kidnapping under the age of
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: 13 for the purpose of committing sexual battery. Seven counts
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: of sexual battery of a child between the ages of
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: 12 and 18. Attempted lewd or lascivious battery. Seven counts
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: of using child in a sexual performance. Four counts of
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: attempting to use a child in a sexual performance. Three
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: counts of traveling to meet a minor for unlawful sexual activity.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: one count of promoting sexual performance by a child, two
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: counts of explicit communication with a minor, four counts of
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: possession of a sexual performance by a child, and a
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: partridge in a blank and pear tree. He is being
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: held without bail, and I hope he's having a hell
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: of a good time in prison.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Joe?
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: In all the galaxies, there's no bigger douche than you.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: You've reached the top, the pinnacle of douchedom. Good going, douche.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Your dreams have come true. Enjoy yourself.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Quang Do. Stick around. Tech Friday with Dave Hatter coming
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: up at 6.30. Plenty to do between now and then.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I hope you can stick around. Be right back.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: News. And what happens next?
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: It's 6.05 at 55KRCV Talk Station. Happy Friday. Happy Halloween Eve.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: My name is Brian Thomas, host of the 55KRCV Morning Show.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Executive producer is Joe Strecker. You can get in touch
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: with Joe. Call into the phone at the phone lines
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: if you pass his call screening and aren't calling about
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: werewolves which don't exist. He'll put you on the call screen,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: and I'll take your call. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550 on
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: AT & T phones. Let us see what's going on
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: here at the bottom of the hour. Tech Friday with
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter. And the first topic with Dave, and I
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: think it'll be intriguing for my listening audience, always concerned
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: about this, how secure are U.S. elections? Are voting machines
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: at risk? That's a hell of a good topic as
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: we fast approach Tuesday. Dear God, please get out and vote.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Speaking of voting, Vivek Ramaswamy returns to the program this
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: morning at 8.05. Sandwiched in between Tech Friday's Dave Hatter
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and Vivek Ramaswamy, citizen watchdog Todd Zins are in studio
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: for an hour to talk about all of the crap
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: going on in downtown Cincinnati, specifically starting out with the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: $ 353, 000 lawsuit that's been filed against the city of Cincinnati.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: After Vivek leaves the program, we'll talk with Jack Windsor
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and the Ohio Press Network. We'll talk about the media
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: carrying the water for liberal candidates and Democratic Attorney General
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: candidate Kulowitz and his indiscretions. I'm wildly curious what Jack
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: has to say about that. That's why we get Jack
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: at the end of the show on a Friday. Anyway, shenanigans.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Democrats are just corrupt. And I know there's corrupt Republicans
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: out there. We've had them here in the state of Ohio,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: haven't we? But this is absolutely shameless, and I'm sure
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you know which direction I'm going to go if you
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: didn't get the memo on it. Alaska. Alaska. where they
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: apparently aren't capable of winning. First off, they've got ranked
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: voting in Alaska, which is where the shenanigans creep in.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Be wary and worried about ranked voting. And here's why.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: The New York Times blew the lid off of this one.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: And previously, because of legal action initiated by the Department
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: of Justice and others involving this, the liberals were all going, ah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: this is lawfare, this is all lawfare, there's nothing to
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: see here. But those people have now shut up because
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: of the New York Times. Yes, the left-leaning New York
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Times published evidence that Democrats attempted to rig Alaska's ranked
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: choice ballot with a decoy candidate in an effort to
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: deny Republican Dan Sullivan re-election. Senator Dan Sullivan. What we
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: know so far in this ranked choice voting state, you
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: rank them in order of preference. Prior to the election
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: filing deadline, a retired teacher named, oh, Dan Sullivan, hmm,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: filed to run against Senator Dan Sullivan. And That in
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: and of itself says, well, there's something wrong here. Alaska
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Department of Elections board barred that decoy candidate. We'll call
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: him decoy Dan for the sake of this discussion because
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: that's what, and I'll give credit to Kim Strassel for
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: breaking it all down as well from the Wall Street Journal,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: but decoy Dan. So Alaska Division of Elections said, no, no, no.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: He was, he filed with a purpose to confuse or
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: mislead voters. That was the termination. So he's off decoy Dan.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Filed as a Republican, had no ties to the GOP,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: had never, he had donated to liberal causes and to
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Senator Sullivan's challenger, Mary Paltola. He had used Democratic political
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: consultant with links to Ms. Paltola or Paltola. He had
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: asked to be listed as Dan S. Sullivan, surprisingly the
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: same name as the senator, even though his own middle
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: initial is J. He created a campaign logo that apparently
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: looks almost identical to the incumbent, Dan Sullivan, the real
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Dan Sullivan. Alaska Supreme Court allowed this decoy, Dan, to
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: move forward anyway. He got 2.5% of the primary vote
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: in this ranked choice voting system, which was enough to
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: allow him to get into the final four. So you
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: literally are staring at a ballot that has two Dan
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Sullivans on it. Now, throughout all this, the Peltola campaign claimed,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: we had nothing to do with this. We don't know
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: anything about it. However, Mrs. Peltola's former campaign manager, a woman...
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: named Elisa Rios, who may find herself in an amazing
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: amount of hot water considering the information that she told
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the New York Times, which specifically, she said, the campaign
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: began in operation in 2025 to find another Alaskan named
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Dan Sullivan to coax them to run for the sole
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: purpose of confusing voters. The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, the DSCC,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: provided a Democratic operative who, parenthetically, is from the state
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: of Ohio. And this person specialized in, quote, secret ballot maneuvers,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: close quote. And he's the one that got this decoy
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Dan guy to run. According to the New York Times
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: and all the information, they reviewed emails and texts and
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: exchanges and conversations and talked to this Elisa Ross woman
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: who filled in all the blanks, or at least steered
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: them in the direction to find all the other information.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: This operative... reportedly told the campaign the decoy Dan said, quote,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: he hated Trump. And if it was going to help Mary,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: he liked Mary. He didn't have any interest in being
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: a politician, but if this could help, he would go
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: ahead and do it. Time story provides enough evidence that
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Democrats might have also recruited the fourth candidate on the ballot,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Gerald Hikes, H-E-I-K-E-S. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correct,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: but they were involved in that guy getting on the
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: ballot as well. The Paltola campaign and the SCC both
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: denied recruiting anybody. However, Ms. Rios spoke a tale to
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the contrary. And very detailed it was, all of her quotes.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: And then, interestingly enough, just before the Times story was posted, Ms.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Rios told the Times... As discussed on our call earlier today,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I am confirming that I have retracted all statements made
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: regarding the 2026 Alaska Senate race in connection with any
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: article you may or may not be writing. I am
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: not willing to be a source for any story in
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: any capacity. Now, the paper brought it up. The New
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: York Times article even says that she told them she
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: was retracting all of the detailed information that she previously gave,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: but they published it anyway because of their reporting standards.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: They're not obligated to honor a retraction. And they had
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: all the other evidence which supported everything that Ms. Rios
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: told them in the first place. So publish it, they did.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Ken points out, it's clear Decoy Dan had no interest
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: in actually attaining office. His campaign website contains two press releases,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: six blog posts, and was last updated six weeks ago.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Facebook page features eight entries since August 18th primary, the
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: last one on September 30th, one sharing a poem, none
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: featuring a single idea, platform, or promise. He has spent
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: no money on staff, advertising, media, travel, or campaign events.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: He listed expenses show $ 300 to the Alaska Election Division
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: for a candidate brochure, $ 4, 000 to the Democratic consultant, and
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: more than $ 20, 000 to a Washington law firm for, quote,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: compliance and legal fees, close quote. The Washington law firm,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I think, also is implicated in this. She points out
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: his only real fundraising is a link asking for money
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: to cover his litigation costs. According to the Federal Election
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Commission records, he has had five itemized donors for the
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: general election, contributing $ 5, 400, three of them living outside of Alaska.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: He's received zero contributions from any party committee, political action committee,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: or any other candidate. But, as she points out, and
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: everyone can observe, he has served his purpose, getting his
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: name on the final ballot in hope that it will
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: confuse enough voters to tip the election to Ms. Peltola.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: She observes that some liberals and ranked-choice supporters are now
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: claiming Alaska's system will guard against this chicanery, so long
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: as supporters of the incumbent rank both Dan Sullivans, their
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: vote will go to the senator in the end. Meaning,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: so long as every voter knows exactly how to defeat
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the game that was rigged by the Democrats, all will
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: be A-OK. Well, yeah, right, she says. This will be
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Alaska's Republicans' third experience with ranked-choice voting, and they've been
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: advised differently every single time. Two years ago, Republicans told
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: to rank only one candidate for U.S. House election, a
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: guy named Nick Begich. That made sense, as he was
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the only Republican. Now, Republicans are being told by Donald
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Trump and the Sullivan campaign to vote for multiple candidates.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: including the fraud guy, Decoy Dan. That's confusing, and why
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: should voters cast a ballot for a deceptive candidate, though
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: some will do so inadvertently? Especially since his name is
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the first on the ballot, apparently. Voters are also being
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: purposely misled. A political action committee called the Center for
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Honest Voting sent a mailer this month to Republican and
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Independent households, screaming, one person, one vote, one choice. next
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: to a graphic showing a filled-in first choice and crossed
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: out additional choices. Quote, President Trump is calling out fraud,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: it claims. Trust your first choice. Only vote once. So
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: in order to ensure that this decoy Dan doesn't have
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: an impact in favor of the Democrats, you're going to
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: have to vote for both of those candidates. Now here's
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: the left. In addition to adding this decoy candidate on
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the election for the sole purpose of confusing Alaskans, they're
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: also sending up follow-up literature that says, well, Do what
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: we wanted you to do. Vote only for the single
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Dan Sullivan. That way you'll secure a victory because some
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: people will in fact be confused. They can't win on
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: their own platform. It's unclear what reach federal law has here,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: she observes, but it isn't unheard of for a court
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: to disqualify a decoy candidate. And the U.S. Supreme Court
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: has observed that a state has an interest, if not
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: only a duty, to protect the integrity of its political
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: process from frivolous or fraudulent candidacies. That's a quote from
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. How much more evidence does the Alaska
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Supreme Court need that this decoy fits both definitions? That
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: was a rhetorical question from, parenthetically, got that. Maybe the
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: election results will be clear enough to make litigation unnecessary.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: But especially if Senate control ends up hinging on Alaska,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the candidacy a decoy did can't be allowed to stand.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: This is a steal. This is a squeaker. The majority
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: of the Senate is in the balance, and this is
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: an overt effort by the Democrats to steal the Senate
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: seat through subterfuge. Alaskans will do themselves and the nation
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: a favor if they pass this year's ballot initiative, getting
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: rid of ranked-choice voting, which we know now Democrats rigged
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: to swing the Senate election.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Hey, man.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Kim Strassel, appreciate that, and thanks to the New York
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Times for actually doing this. You don't expect this kind
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: of revelation from a left-wing paper like the New York Times.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: But I think that in and of itself speaks volumes
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: to the controversy here, this insane effort to steal a
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Senate seat. Democrats, yep. 617. 622, the 55KRCD talk station. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK,
• 47:51
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• 47:56
  Speaker 1: a Friday. I hope you are as well. Getting ready
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: for Halloween and the single doorbell that will ring tomorrow evening.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I think we got Butterfingers. And where's Maureen? Maureen, I
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: thought you were going to call in. She's got a
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: conspiracy she wants to talk about. Anyway, speaking of further
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: efforts to rig the election and raising giant red flags
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: about the election integrity, going back to Minnesota, which is
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: just a state filled with massive corruption. Look who runs it.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Minnesota Voter Outreach Director Melanie Hazlip. While on... Somali TV,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: that's a TV station. They've got a lot of them
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: up there, so I guess they have their own public
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: access station. Somali TV, quote, if you're already registered to vote,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: she said, you don't need to bring anything with you.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: You just show up to your early voting location, which
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: is usually the county office or city hall. Minneapolis and
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: bigger jurisdictions have a lot of extra places where you
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: can go, like a lot of libraries or community centers.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: As long as you're registered to vote, you don't need
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: to bring anything with you. If you're not registered to vote,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: you went on to stay, you still have options. If
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you have a Minnesota ID that is updated, that's all
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: you need to bring with you. And if you don't
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: have that, there's a list of documents on our website
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: that you can find. You still have options to get
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: registered the same day. Now, there is no argument that
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: it is an accurate assessment of the law in Minnesota.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: The question is swirling. Well, wait a second. Why are
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: you broadcasting that particular message on Somali TV? Many people
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: suggest maybe the Somalis aren't citizens of the United States
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: of America. And since apparently you can get the ID
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: that she mentioned to the group, even if you're not
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: a citizen... That means that non-citizens with a Minnesota ID
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: can get registered to vote. Minnesota hands out the IDs
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: to non-citizens with no citizenship marking. Vouching, and you can
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: vouch for someone too. Seriously. Vouching lets one registered voter
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: clear or vouch for up to eight others on an oath. Yes,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I vouch that these eight people next to me are
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: citizens of the United States of America. That's all it takes.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Real-time proof? Well, not necessary. A statement of Fox News
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Digital speaking to the Minnesota Secretary of State's office said,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: It provides information and resources to Minnesota election laws to
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: hundreds of nonpartisan community groups every year as part of
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: our regular voter engagement efforts. There's no coincidence. This is
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Somali TV. It's no coincidence we have a whole lot
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: of Somali immigrants here in the Minnesota area, but they
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: need the information too. We also explained to them, and
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: they all know, that you can get a Minnesota ID
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: without proof of citizenship. And that you can have any
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: random dude come in and qualify anybody and say they're
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: citizens just by signing a piece of paper. And you
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: know how difficult it is to prove a case of fraud?
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: So they've greased the skids to allow very easy, very
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: easy fraud. Just vouch for somebody. You could be lying
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: through your teeth. You could be subject to prosecution. But
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: some prosecutor is going to have to find out that
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: there was a voucher in place. Go back and then
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: figure out whether or not you knew that person was
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: not a citizen when you vouched for them. The evidentiary
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: chain is going to be difficult. The evidence is going
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: to be difficult to get. And then fraud, again, a
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: very difficult thing to prove. So if you fixed it
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: up front, people in favor of the SAVE Act might note,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: like me, you could plug the holes here. You could
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: require proof of citizenship, not just a voucher. There's a
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: million things you could do to prevent fraud from happening,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: but you know what? They're not interested in that. Not
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: a bit.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: 625. And in various other states, the only people who
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: want to allow this to happen are Democrats. We know
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: where the holes are that allow for voter fraud. They
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: are easy to fix. They don't want to. I mean,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: that speaks volumes, doesn't it? Wake up. As I pivot over,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: earlier in the last hour, we were talking about Glenn
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Beck's doom and gloom pronouncement yesterday about being prepared. 51374. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: Always good to be here, Brian.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: All right, let's jump right into it. An issue that
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: comes up every election year is concerns about voting machines. Now,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I get a pretty good sense here in Ohio that
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: we don't have any hacking concerns. I've been advised that
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: they're not hooked up to the internet and they can't
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: be tampered with from outside forces. I'll have to take
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: them at their word on this, but some states, well,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: are at risk. That's what this article says. Anyway, Dave,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: can you break it down?
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so Security Week is a well-known, well-respected magazine in
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: the the cybersecurity, information security space. Timing of this article
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: is kind of unfortunate that they waited until a few
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: days before the election to publish it. But it's a
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: pretty deep dive into this, and I think it's really
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: well done. You know, my concerns with all of this
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: are always, Brian, and we see this sort of thing
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: play out more and more every day, right? I don't
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: think you and I have talked about the recent PHP vulnerability,
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: but The point I've been making for a long time now,
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: and one of the reasons why I got out of
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: software engineering as a professional and into cybersecurity is because
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: anything that has software in it is vulnerable. I've talked
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: about Mikko Hoponen's book before. He's a very well-known, much
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: smarter than me, cybersecurity professional, wrote a book called If
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: It's Smart, It's Vulnerable. I know I've mentioned Bruce Schneier's book,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: also way smarter than me, internationally renowned cryptographer and cybersecurity guy,
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: wrote a book called Click Here to Kill Everyone. And
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: the whole idea is if it's got software in it,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: it's vulnerable. OK, period. That's the bottom line point they're making.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: I believe that's absolutely true. We've seen this PHP thing.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: We've talked about refrigerators being hacked and so forth. So
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: this article is pretty long, but it goes into and
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: here's the subhead. Unpatched voting machines, unverifiable QR coded ballots
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: and AI driven influence campaigns leave U.S. elections short of secure. Now,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: that's their words, not mine. You know, they they make
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: some very interesting points in here. There's some great quotes
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: from some pretty well-known cybersecurity experts. They talk about the
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: vote counting and the vote machines and how the machines
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: are certified. But at the end of the day, they
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: have software in them, Brian. And that's part of the problem.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: They talk about foreign nations trying to influence the vote.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: But the thing that I thought was the most interesting, again,
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: because there's a bunch of different headlines. There's a whole
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: section securing the integrity of the election, voting and counting. U.S.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: election voting machines are certified by the EAC. This certificate
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: is designed to ensure their security and applies to both
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: the voting and the counting machines. Shari Bargel, co-founder and
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: CEO at Sequent, is doubtful. There is no direct correlation
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: of the certification process to the four-year election cycle, and
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: the certification can occur in any four years. Certification process
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: may take a year, but probably less than two years.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: In a worst-case scenario, a voting machine whose certification began
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: in the first year of the electoral cycle will have
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: been sitting untouched for two years. Quote, now this is
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: this guy.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, go ahead. This is where
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: you kick it out of the stadium here, right here.
• 55:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Quote, that's pretty ridiculous. Unquote, comet sparkle. Quote, software needs
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: to be updated and patched pretty much continuously. In the
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: commercial world, we patch our systems every month. But for elections,
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: we're trusting the software that hasn't been patched for two
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: years or more. And the final analysis, the EAC certification
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: is pretty much meaningless.
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: Great.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Unquote. Now, again, that's this guy. They talk about air gapping,
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: keeping machines offline. They talk about voter village at DEFCON.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: You and I have talked about that over the years
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: where DEFCON is a yearly cybersecurity conference. Thousands of people
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: show up. They have villages where they take things apart
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: and attack stuff and demonstrate stuff. And it says here,
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: you know, machines are often taken to voting village, a
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: hands-on election security lab run at DEFCON, gives researchers and
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: election officials and the public legal access to real voting
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: equipment so they can test the security. Some of these
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: machines are still in use in the current election cycle
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: when they're delivered to Voting Village. Then the same guy, quote, basically,
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: this is Bargel, every voting machine that has been delivered
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: to Voting Village has been successfully hacked once the hackers
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: have hands-on access, unquote. So, I mean, this goes on
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: and on. I'll post this in the notes. I've shared
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: this with a bunch of people. I strongly encourage people
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: to go read it for themselves. Again, they talk about
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: election influence campaigns. They talk about the idea that printing
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: something with a QR code where you can't read what
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: it says is basically useless. I try to make this
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: point every day, Brian. You can't look at a QR
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: code and know what it does.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: True.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: I never, ever, ever scan QR codes out in public.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know what they do. I don't know how
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: they got there. I don't know that some bad guy
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: hasn't come along and put a new QR code over
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: top of a legitimate QR code like in a parking lot.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: And this has happened, by the way. So, yeah, this
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: is a really interesting article. I am going to send
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: it to Secretary LaRose. I know him. I've done some
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: cybersecurity seminars for his team, which, by the way, is
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: a huge benefit to residents of Ohio that your secretary
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: of state is out there providing free cybersecurity seminars for
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: small businesses. I'm going to send it to the Kentucky
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: secretary of state. I mean, again, sadly, now we're just
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: days out from the election, but it's a very interesting
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: look at this. And it's not political in any way.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: This article doesn't talk about politics at all. So, yeah,
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: it's pretty useful in my mind. Frightening stuff. Although it
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: would have been good to have it earlier.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: LinkedIn.com. Find Dave Hatter and LinkedIn.com. That's where you'll find
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: the articles he speaks of here on the morning show.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Don't go away. More to talk about, including the latest
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: MapQuest update. 55KRC, the talk station. 41, 55KRC, the talk station.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: interestit.com where you find Dave Hatter and his crew for
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: your business computer needs. Dave Hatter, I like this new
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: feature on MapQuest, at least I think I do.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, Brian, I'm not a fan of flock
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: cameras and I always like to remind people flock has
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: become the coke of mass surveillance.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: Or the Kleenex, right? They're not the only company that
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: are building these sorts of mass surveillance capable cameras. They're
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: just the ones that have gotten the most ire. They're
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: the ones that are the most well-known. Seems like in
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: many cases the public is waking up to this whole
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: mass surveillance thing and there's been a huge backlash against this.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: I like to point out that Fort Wright does not
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: and has never had flock cameras or anything like this
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: and will not as long as I'm involved in it.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: But that said, if you.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Don't use MapQuest. I have an Apple phone. I use
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: the maps on my Apple phone. Nothing against MapQuest. But
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: the native map app on my Apple phone does what
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: I want it to do. And you know, Brian, I
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: tell people all the time, the less apps you have,
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: the better. So again, I have nothing against MapQuest. This
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: is a useful feature, though, in my mind, and I
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: think it just speaks to the backlash, although it's interesting
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: to see one technology company essentially, let's just say, cast aspersions,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: for lack of a better word, for an FCC-compliant way
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: to say this, on another tech company. So MapQuest and
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: their latest update will now show you where the automated
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: license plate reader cameras are. Think Flock. Again, other companies, Axon,
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: there are other people doing this, but Flock is the
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: most well-known So if you use the MapQuest app, you
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: can turn this on and it will show you where
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: the flock cameras are, wherever you are, so that you
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: can avoid them. So if you're someone like me that
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: does not want to be mass surveilled, it's just out
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: minding your own business, trying to live your life, everyday, innocent,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: average citizen, and you don't want to be surveilled, you
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: don't want to be tracked like this, this is a
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: handy way to let you know how to avoid these things.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: And it's really interesting because in the screenshot they show
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: in this one article, Now, again, I don't know, Brian,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: that this particular screenshot is legit or they just made
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: it up for this news story. But assuming that's a
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: real screenshot of a real place, there is an insane
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: amount of flock cameras in that given location.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: And that was going to be my point. To your point,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: even if I want to avoid flock cameras, it may
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: be impossible for me to get to point A to
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: point B without having to go past one or multiple
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, looking at this map, again, assuming it's legit,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: it would be very difficult to avoid them. But at
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: the very least, you could minimize your exposure to them
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: if you had this.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe this is less of a practical feature and more
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: of just the look at the size and scope of
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: the Big Brother reality we live in these days.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Well, it certainly has. points that out. And, you know,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: they say in the article, by turning on the surveillance
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: layer in the map options, which I think is a
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: funny way to describe it, by turning on the surveillance
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: layer in the map options portion of the software, the
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: map will reveal each location. And it does say in
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: this article, the feature allows users to view the reported
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: locations of license plate readers operated by providers, including Flock Safety,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Motorola Solutions, and Axon. So I do appreciate the fact
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: that this MapQuest update feature, speaking of software updates, like
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: we talked about in the last Last segment, right? Software
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: updates don't just fix vulnerabilities and bugs. They add capability.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Or in our increasingly digital world, potentially take away functionality. Oh, well,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: you like that heated steering wheel in your car? Not
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: for you unless you want to pay the subscription fee.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: Like those heated seats? Oh, your air conditioner? Yeah, that's
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: going to cost extra because you're not paying the subscription fee.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: That's where we're headed with all of this. But, you know, again,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: back to the election machines and such, software updates are
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: critical because they fix vulnerabilities, flaws that could be exploited.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: They fix bugs, things that make the software not function
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: the way it's supposed to. But they also, also give
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: you the capability to change the functionality. Today, I certified this, right?
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: And then a software update comes out. Well, unless I
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: recertify it, how can I know for sure there wasn't
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: a change in the software that changed the behavior? In
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: this case, adding new functionality that shows you these surveillance cameras.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Hopefully what I'm saying is making sense to folks. Again,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: in the old days when something was mechanical, right, and
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: you bought it, well, it couldn't just change itself overnight
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: with a software update. It couldn't be your smart refrigerator
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: that bricked itself and ruined the food or burned your
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: house down due to a software update that caused it
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: to overheat or something like things can now. And this
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: is my point. but I keep trying to drive home
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: to folks as we make everything digital, everything has software
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: in it. Sometimes you get a benefit like, Hey, I
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: can see these surveillance cameras in my MapQuest app. Now,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: sometimes things change and that they might tell you, they
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: might not tell you, or it could be hackers that
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: have broken into the source code of that and changed
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: it without even the vendors knowledge that has happened many times,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: all well-documented Brian. So, uh, Yeah, that's where we're at.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: That's frightening stuff. Waymo, robo-taxi operators. There's some new scrutiny
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: over station. 651-55-KRCD talk station. Dave Hatton, Interest IT, doing
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: the Tech Friday. And, well, confirming for me more that
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do automated vehicles, Dave. I don't
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: think we're there yet. And apparently the federal government's going
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: to start getting involved because Waymo and other robo-taxi operators
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: can't manage, I guess, first responder emergency vehicle interactions. What's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: going on with this one, Dave?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's all kinds of wild stuff, but I want
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: to take just one second to tell you two things, Brian.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: First off, since I know you're into this sort of
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: thing personally, and I imagine a lot of your listeners are,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: I belong to the Kenton Game and Fish Association. Our
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: annual fall turkey shoot is this Sunday.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, cool.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 8: Love it.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: If you or any of your listeners want to come
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: on down, you know, it's open to the public. Begins
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: at noon. Kenton Game and Fish. It's on Locust Pike.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: You can find it online and I'll be sharing it
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: in my social media. And if you want to hear
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: me talk your ear off about more of this stuff,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: you can meet me in person and I'll tell you
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: the stuff we can't talk about on the radio, Brian.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: Then you'll really, really be sorry that you know me.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: No FCC oversight in offline communications. Anyway, let's get into this.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: We've got about three minutes to boil down the robo-taxi operator.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: And then real quick, last thing. Queen City Con Cybersecurity Conference,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: November 13th through 15th. You all should come. That said, yeah,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: so Brian, you know me pretty well now after all
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: the years we've been friends. I'm not riding in any
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: autonomous cars anytime soon. Will these things eventually get to
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: the point where they're trustworthy? Probably. But you have a
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: vehicle with a bunch of sensors on it, right? Different
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: types of sensors, cameras, LIDAR, all kinds of different sensors.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: They've been trained in real-world driving simulations. They've been trained
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: in simulated driving situations. But you keep seeing issues with
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: these things. Now, again, I know the experts and the
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: people who are for this will tell me, oh, well,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: if you look at the stats over time, they're much
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: better than human drivers. OK, that may be the case.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: All I know is we keep seeing examples where in
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: real world situations where a reasonable human driver would make
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: a different decision like, hey, let's not block the emergency vehicles. Hey,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: let's not drive into a construction zone. If you look,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: and I'll, again, post a bunch of these articles in
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: the show notes that show you this, there are continuous
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: problems with these kind of vehicles where they do things,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: they get stuck. In one instance, they went into a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: neighborhood and just jammed up the whole neighborhood. People run
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: up and put an orange cone on the hood and
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: the thing doesn't know what to do. Again, you can
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: argue that in a perfect world, would a machine be
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: better than a human driver?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: For all the reasons I've stated in the last two segments,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: these things are full of software. They're connected to other systems.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: What happens when those systems go down? What happens if
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: a sensor gets covered up? Again, I'm not against this
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: per se. I think like so much of the technology
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: that I rail on all the time, and you know
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: I'm not an anti-technology guy, Brian. This is what I've
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: done for more than 30 years. This stuff is moving
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: way too fast. The incentives for you as a consumer
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: from a security, both physical and cyber perspective, and your
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: privacy are all wrong for you as a consumer. And
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: we just keep putting more software in things, I've talked
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: about some of the problems. In fact, one of the
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: things I'm going to talk about at that cybersecurity conference
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: and have talked about a lot recently, the abysmal state
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: of software security. As a recovering software engineer that did
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: it for 25 years, there is literally no bad practice
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: I have not personally done because for most of my career,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: I was not focused on security or privacy. Those were
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: not my objectives. I was not incentivized to care about that.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: I hope this makes sense to you. When I tell
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: you I don't have a smart refrigerator or a smart
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: coffee maker, that can be hacked online and used to
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: burn my house down. These are the reasons why. I
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: know how this process works. Trust me, they are not
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: building this stuff with software in it that is designed
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: for your security and your privacy. And that's why I'm
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: not going to be writing any of these kinds of
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: things soon. And I have a lot of concerns about
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: them because even though it doesn't get a lot of press,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: it is documented out there. And there are many examples
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: where these things don't work right. And yeah, it's not
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Appreciate the message. I've heard it loud and clear, and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: I follow your directive, Dave, because I know you're right. Dave.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: 706 here, 50-Bot Care CD Talk Station. Very happy Friday
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: to everybody, and a happy Halloween Eve. And I am
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: pleased to look up and see in-studio Todd Zinser. We
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: call him Citizen Watchdog. He was a former Inspector General
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: for the United States of America, bringing his, well... Inspector
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: General Talents to the Greater Cincinnati Area in Following the Shenanigans.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: And I'll call it Shenanigans, the Cincinnati City Council. And Todd,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: you've got a whole bunch of quite revealing topics to
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: go over with my listening audience and me this morning.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: First off, let me start by thanking you for the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: work that you do because it is quite revealing, my friend.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Morning Show.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: Hi, Brian.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: Happy to be here again.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: I'm glad. And let's start with the Auditor of State letter.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I take a look at the financial
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: statement audits for the city and the auditor of state
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: has to sign off on the financial statement. statement audit.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: And so they send a cover letter when they do that.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: And this year there's a sentence in there that they
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: inserted in the letter that said there's an ongoing investigation.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: But it doesn't say anything else. And so I went
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: down to see— Well, wait a minute.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: It didn't certify the results? It didn't say they're not
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: good enough or they are good enough? It just said
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: there's an ongoing investigation?
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: It never renders an opinion on the financial statements. But
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: it didn't indicate that whatever investigation was going on had
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: any kind of effect on the financial statements themselves. So
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: it's just a notification to the city that his office
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: has some type of investigation going on.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Now, does the city know what he's talking about when
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: he references this unspecific or nonspecific ongoing investigation?
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: Well, it's very strange because I go down to city
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: council and I tell them these things because I don't
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: think they really do know. I don't think they really
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: pay attention to what's going on with the administration.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of reasons you could come to
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: that conclusion, but go ahead as it relates to this one.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: So I said they should find out what it is,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: but I had submitted a records request. asking for documents
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: about this.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: To the auditor?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, to the city.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: No, to both the auditor and the city. The city
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: got back to me, and they don't know what I'm
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: talking about.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Did you attach the letter that mentions the ongoing investigation?
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: It's like, no, that's what the letter says. What does
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: this refer to? Right.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: So, no, and I haven't heard from the auditor of
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: state either. I may not hear from him. I don't know.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Does the auditor have an obligation to respond to something
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: like that?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: Well, they should at least say they can't respond. They
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: could at least say, well, it is an ongoing investigation
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: and we can't.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: This is an elected office. What they should do and
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: what they're obligated under the law to do are two
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: different things. So is there an obligation for the auditor's
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: office to respond to your request?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: They should respond, but I don't know that I would
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: get any kind of.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: No details.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: No details, right.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Just got your letter and whatever.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: So this is just a swirling mystery.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: Right now it is, yeah.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Hey, Joe, see if you can get the auditor on
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: the phone. We'll figure this one out. Get Todd's records
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: request taken care of. Okay. Right after Houston's campaign gets
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: back with you? That hasn't happened.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: Either, Todd.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: I can't believe that.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I sent a message to Josh Gert this morning. I said,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: what's the story? Joe has reached out every single time
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: he gets a communication from Houston's campaigns. Respond to the
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: person sending it out. Hey, we need to get John
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: on the program. Talk about the campaign. Raise elevation of awareness.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a serious race here. Silence every
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: single time. It really has me irked. I don't know
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: if they're mad at me or something for something I've done.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine, but whatever.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: You never know.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Not necessarily a well-oiled machine, which is not something we
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: need to deal with right now.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So then this is just an open thing with no
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: end in sight, and we're just all left with question marks.
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  Speaker 5: Right. We just learned of that in June.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 6: Hmm.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: And I just found out about it last week.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I see we have an IRS penalty we need
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: to talk about. But given that we only have a
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: few more minutes in this segment, which topic is it
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: easier to get through in a few moments? The hiring practices,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: the TIF issues, the... three reading rule, the change to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: leverage support fund. I mean, we've got railroad investments to
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: talk about. Zinsser, come on, give me one.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: Let's talk about the suspending the three reading rule.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is insane. This is absolutely insane. Go ahead.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: You know, I've been calling this, I've started calling the
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: city council a juggernaut because nothing gets in their way.
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  Speaker 5: Even rules like this, where they're supposed to do three
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: readings on three separate days so that the public has
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: an opportunity to to keep track of what's going on.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: So they have a proposed ordinance. It's going to change
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  Speaker 1: some aspect of how a city is managed to run or.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: Govern or whatever. That's right, or spend money or whatever.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: The law, the rules, require them to read it three
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: separate times and, I guess, give the public advance notice
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: of the reading so they know where they need to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: be to show.
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  Speaker 5: Up and find out. Well, it shows up on the
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: agenda for the meetings, yes.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, so it is on the agenda. But that hasn't happened. Now,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: if they're obligated, Todd Zinser, if they're obligated to read
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: any given change three times, that means that, of course,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: they normally do that, right?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: You would hope so, yes.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Under what circumstances, Todd Zinsser, are they allowed to waive
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: the three-reading rule?
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  Speaker 5: There's no criteria like that. It just gives the city
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: council the authority to suspend the three readings, and they
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: take a vote on that, and that's all it takes.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be an emergency. It doesn't have
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: to be some sort of outlier ordinance. There's no carve-out.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: The emergency is another problem.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. All right, pause. Keep emergency in the back
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: of your mind, folks. So now, how many ordinances this
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: calendar year so far, and how many times did they
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: suspend the three-reading rule?
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: Well, I went through the agendas from January to September
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: this year. There were 438 ordinances enacted. And 100 percent
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: of them suspended. They suspended the three readings rule.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: So the public never got notice.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: Well, they get notice on the agenda and the agenda
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: comes out the day before the meeting. So if there's
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: something that is really kind of problematic for the public,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: it's too late. They don't have time to really protest that.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: So city council is supposed to be a form of
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: representative government, correct?
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  Speaker 5: That's what I hear.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: I'm baby-stepping here.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: I'm mansplaining. That's what I hear.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just making this so damn obvious to everybody. All
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: the voters in the city of Cincinnati can be impacted
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: by any one of these. They don't give advance notice,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: minimalist advance notice, and they never give the opportunity for
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: three readings.
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  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Wow. What if the general public has a, let's say,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: a majority objection to it, like an overwhelming majority? Like
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: the people in Hyde Park who got the zoning law changed.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: They came out in huge numbers. to actually propose a
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: ballot initiative to unring the bell of what council did
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: underneath their radar. This is the same kind of thing,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: isn't it?
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: But what's interesting about the Hyde Park issue is that
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: that zoning change was not passed as an emergency. And
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: that gave the citizens the ability to mount a referendum
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: against that.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the council members, we went over this when that
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: was happening, Todd. Council members were painfully aware of the
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: objections from the Hyde Park residents. They had shown up
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: during one of these readings and said, no, this is
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: not a path you can take. That's a lesson they learned.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: We can't do this.
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  Speaker 5: That's right. The other analysis is how many emergency ordinances
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: there are. They're not all. I don't have 100%. But
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: I did the analysis one time. It's up in the 90%.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: Well, if they waive the three reading rule for just
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: run-of-the-mill everyday ordinances, as you said, how does an emergency
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: ordinance differ? What is it required to be labeled emergency
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: and what does that cause by way of process change?
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: Well, they come up with all these bogus reasons why
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: it has to be an emergency. Basically, the reason is
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: because we have to spend the money right away or
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 5: we have to do it right away. And so what
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: happens with an emergency ordinance is that the public has
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: no opportunity to organize a referendum to decide challenge that ordinance. Wow.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: That's why I call him a juggernaut.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's a legitimate conclusion, Todd. I'm just, you know,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: what bothers me so much about this is they just
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: don't seem, or they obviously do not care what people think.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they have a, they're on a mission. I'm calling
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: them uber-activists.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Well, and just the sheer volume of ordinance changes, that
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: sounds ridiculously large in one single, not even a full
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: calendar year right now. Hundreds and hundreds of them.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the problem is I haven't really looked into it,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 5: but they have to pass an ordinance to do anything.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: So if they want to accept a $ 500 donation from
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: somebody for the police, for example, they have to pass
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: an ordinance to do that.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Well, at least it has it on record.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: I guess it's a good thing. In the final analysis,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: it sounds like they're doing way too much, but if
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: that is the reason there are so many of them,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: then I'm glad that's in place.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: Well, it's for anything. Anything that the city council wants
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: to get done, they have to pass an ordinance to
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: And it sure helps when you don't let the public
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: know about it.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: It sure makes things easier, that's for sure, for them.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Coming up on 716, more with citizen watchdog Todd Zinser.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: You can find him on Facebook, Todd.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: At KRC, the talk station.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: 720-55-KCB Fox station. Happy Friday. Todd Zinser, citizen watchdog in studio,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: former inspector general, spending his retirement being an inspector general
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: voluntarily for all of us in the greater Cincinnati area.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: And as we focus on what I call shenanigans in
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati. So clearly they don't like to engage in
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: the representative government process, suspending the three reading rule all
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: of the time. And then we pivot over and I
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: see the word penalty, IRS penalty. That's not, you owe
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: me X number of dollars for taxes. That is, you
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: failed to pay a sufficient amount of taxes resulting in
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: a penalty of $ 353, 000, Todd?
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: The penalty?
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: That's a penalty.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: What the hell do they do?
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: Well, that's another thing we don't know.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: And I don't think the city council knows either.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Well, how did you learn about the penalty in the
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: first instance.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: Well there's when when an outside auditor issues their financial
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: statement audit report it includes what they call a management
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: letter and the management letter is supposed to outline issues
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: or problems in that the city should be aware of
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: and take care of, but they don't rise to the
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: level of affecting the financial statement or the financial situation
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: of the city. These are just like weaknesses in internal controls.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: Like tips for best practices kind of thing? You need
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: to readjust your machinery to deal with these challenges?
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: A little more strict than that, but I couldn't find
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: a management letter when I looked. And so... I found
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: out that in order to get.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: This letter– This penalty letter.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: This management letter that includes these areas of internal control problems,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: you have to go to the auditor of state. So
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: I did, and this is the letter I got back,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: and it lists four areas, one of which is this
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: IRS penalty that was paid in 2025.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: So– The Auditor of State letter that said that there's
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: an ongoing investigation with no fill-in-the-blank details, that's different from
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: this letter, which I identify.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: Well, as far as we know, maybe it's the same thing,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: but we can't tell. But I think if it wasn't significant,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: it wouldn't be in this management letter.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: I guess I'd have to agree. And how does one
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: rack up a $ 353, 000 IRS penalty? Well, I.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: There was something when the city manager went to council
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: to get approval to pay this, they characterized it as
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: a assessment or something under appeal. We're dealing with a
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: potential penalty and it's under appeal or something like that.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Which suggests if they're appealing it, then at least the
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: solicitor's office is aware of it and may be involved
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: in a legal case.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: Related to this penalty. There's a term used. In the
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: letter of adjudication. So there's some kind of adjudication that
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 5: went on. And a month after they received approval to
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: pay this, the city paid $ 353, 000.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: So would that qualify as existing infrastructure to allow them
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: to tap into railroad dollars to pay for it, Todd?
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: You never know, Brian.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: They got a slush fund for payment of IRS penalties
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: there someplace?
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: Well, I have reported that they're taking... interest earned on
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: the unspent railroad money and they're putting it in the
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: general fund.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about that.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: That's a massive red flag right there because that money
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: should have never been allocated if it's not ready to
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: be spent right away. And the idea that the city
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: can sit on that money and get interest earned on it,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: which interest earned is not being spent on existing infrastructure.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't have had that money in their hand if
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: it wasn't for railroad money and existing infrastructure projects.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 5: And you know what's worse is they're not telling the
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: public how much that is, how much they're earning there.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Why did the word criminal just enter into my mind, Todd?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know that this rises the level of criminal activity,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: but Lord Almighty, it sure sounds like it. At minimum,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: it's shameless behavior.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: It is definitely shameless. There's no question about that.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: That is just a metaphorical middle finger to every single
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: resident of the city of Cincinnati, this hiding of details
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: and this obvious reflection of mismanagement. I mean, you mentioned
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: this external audit management letter, which addresses the $ 353, 000 penalty.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: But it also says IT security, employee fraud awareness training,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: and delinquent financial disclosures.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: Cryptic that, but that's all it says?
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, it has a little bit of an explanation.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: But the financial disclosures, they did a sample of 10
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: city officials who are required to file financial disclosure reports
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 5: by April 15th every year. And again, the audit is
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: all based on sampling, right? They can only look at
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: so many records and be timely. So they do these samples.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: They sample 10 city officials who were supposed to file
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: their financial disclosures. 100% did not do that. 100% of
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: their sample did not file their financial disclosures on time.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah. There's absolutely compliance issues all over the place.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Is there a? penalty that goes along with failure to
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: comply with the law along those lines, Todd?
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: You know, I think there may be, Brian, but I'd
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: have to follow up on that. I do think that
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: that is in the rules, but I'd have to check
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: on that.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: So we have to rely on the AG to go
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: after them for that?
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: Well, again, this goes to the auditor of state. The
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: auditor of state has investigative powers, as we just talked about.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 5: So this letter goes to the auditor of state, but
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: the auditor can investigate anything he or she wants.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: Well, let's have them get on that, shall we? Well,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: you know how to get in touch with your auditor?
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Just search Ohio Auditor and you will find the website
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: and all the communication information you need to get in
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: touch with them about that. Light a fire on them
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: so you think they can't go after this. I mean,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: that's just, again, I'm going with shameless. Todd Zinser will continue.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: And yes, I don't even think we'll be able to
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: exhaust the list. that Todd has come up with for
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: this morning's segment. 726 at 55 Care CD Talk Station.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Chimney Care Fireplace and Stove. 730 on a Friday, an
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: hour with Todd Zinser, our citizen watchdog. Hours collectively. Donating
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: his time in retirement to, well, ferreting out the craziness
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: going on in downtown Cincinnati. Usually coming up empty because
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: that's the way city council intended it. You can't find
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: anything because we're not giving it to you. And apparently
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: they don't even bother following their own rules. Todd, you
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: said you had one more point on the IRS penalty
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: of $ 353, 000, which seems to still be swirling in mystery.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: The other mystery is when the external auditor wrote their
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: management letter and brought this issue up, they included in
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: the letter that the city has told them that they've
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: done an evaluation of the issue already. And have taken
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: corrective measures, and that's in the management letter from the
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: external auditor.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Taken corrective measures. Now, when did that letter from the
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: city go to the outside auditor?
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: Well, that's the outside auditor's letter dated March 27 of 2026,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: so it was this past March.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: But just last month in September, the internal auditor for
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: the city did an audit of federal tax withholding, the
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: same subject. different audit period and came up with, I
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: don't know, half a dozen to a dozen other corrective
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: measures that should be taken. And so you're thinking, well,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: are these new problems with federal tax withholding or are
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: these the same issues that the external auditor came up with?
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: And if it's the same, why did the external auditor
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: say that it had already been taken care of?
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: It's got to be a different set of problems then.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: We don't know, though.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 5: Or they misinformed the external auditor.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's that option, isn't there, Todd Zinser?
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: So it's just very confusing to the public that's trying
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: to track this, exactly what's going on.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Confusing to the public if they did enough effort that
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: you did and still have no idea. Todd, you did
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: all the work, man. You've seen the documents. You don't
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: even know. No, I don't.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to find out.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: They don't want the public to even be confused. They
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: don't want the public to even know about it.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: Well, that's my bottom line is it does kind of
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: look like a cover-up.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: Jeez Louise. You know what? And it'd be so easy.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: And they're saying, no, no, it's no cover-up, Mr. Zinsser.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: It's no. Well, if it isn't, then show us the
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: damn documents and prove us wrong. That's right. Meanwhile, while
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: you remain silent and clearly covered up an entire record here,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: we're only able to reach one conclusion that there's something
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: to cover up.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 8: Jeez.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: Ah, shameless.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: Corruption, I might argue. All right. Moving on. Pick a subject.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: I got a list of about 12 of them here.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Hiring practices.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: The hiring practices audit was interesting because it showed me
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: two things. Number one is their documentation is, you know,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: just terrible. Widespread failures in documentation. And there's two records
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 5: in particular that for 50%– no, I take that back. 30%
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: of the records for new hires were missing their I-9 forms.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: So their I-9 forms are those forms that employers have
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: to have completed that verifies that the person is in
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: the United States legally.
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  Speaker 1: And the second– We're talking, this lack of documentation, we
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: are talking about Sanctuary City, Cincinnati, right, Todd?
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure we're clear on the
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: subject matter here.
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  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Okay. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: And then secondly, there were background checks missing.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, really?
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Out of the sample of 59, 40, or 40, I'm sorry,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: four background checks were missing. Now, there should be no
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 5: background checks missing. There should be no I-95. forms missing.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: And I just think that the human services department is struggling,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: to say the least. I don't think there were recommendations
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: in the hiring practice audit. And for three of those recommendations,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: the manager's response was, I do not have the staff
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 5: to implement these recommendations.
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl Long said that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, the head of the Department of Human Resources said that.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: Who works for Cheryl Long.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Who reports directly to Cheryl Long.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: Speaking on basically Cheryl Long's behalf.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Since the buck stops at Cheryl Long's desk.
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  Speaker 5: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, maybe, Todd, and we'll talk about this next, if
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: they didn't spend so much money on nongovernmental organizations, they'd
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: have enough to hire somebody who's competent to do this work.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 7: Maybe?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I do think there's a conflict between the city's
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: ability or desire to fund the government infrastructure that people needed,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: the equipment needed, the systems needed. I think that is
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: running into all the money that they spend on these
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: external organizations. They subsidize these external organizations instead of investing
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: in the city's government infrastructure. That's kind of where I'm
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 5: headed with all this.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to elaborate on that because I know
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: you have a– there was a change to leveraged support funding,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: which is what funds the outside entities. KRC, the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: 740 here, 55 KRC Talk Station. Happy Friday. Todd Zinser,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: Citizen Watchdog. You can find him on Facebook. You can
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: go to citizenwatchdog.com. Get his podcast and love having him
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: on the 55 KRC Morning Show. So pivoting off the
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: hiring practices audit where we ultimately conclude, or at least
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: you heard from the city manager's office, that we just
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: don't have sufficient employee resources to follow the law.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: Is that really what it boils down to, like the
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: I-9 form? Yes, and it's not.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 5: Just human services. We looked at the challenges that the
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: departments put in their budget presentations. They were required to
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: include three top challenges. Out of 16 departments, 12 said
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 5: that staffing was in the top three challenges. Two did
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: not say anything about staffing. One was ambiguous and one
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 5: said it didn't have any challenges. So 12 out of
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: 16 departments say we've got problems with our staffing, including
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: public services, which resulted in the whole trash pickup problem
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: that occurred.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: I thought that was an equipment issue.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: No, I'm confusing that with the snow removal. I'm sorry, Todd.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: I got my crises mixed up.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 5: That's right. So you've got the flooding, you've got the
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: trash removal, you have the snow removal. And I really
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: have come to the conclusion that the city does not
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: have the internal capacity to really even do the basic
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: services of the city.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: Well, isn't that why they're farming out all kinds of
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: stuff to NGOs, Todd? Or are the NGOs doing something different?
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: Well, I think they're doing something different. I know that.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: So you talk about this all the time. First off,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: there's an entity out there that claims it is going
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: to help the city achieve some goal, like juvenile crime.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: here we are, we're going to do stuff to help
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: curb juvenile crime. And the city says, okay, here's half
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: a million dollars.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: So there's one issue. Okay, people might say, well, that's
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to work because the city's not
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: capable of doing everything. Of course, it has to outsource
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: some things. It happens all the time. But there's no
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: following the money. Once it leaves the building, no one
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: is held accountable for whatever work is supposed to be done.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: Am I right on that?
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: That's right. And they don't even, in some cases, measure it.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 8: Metrics.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: What they're doing.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: There's no metrics.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: So it's trust.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: Here's taxpayer dollars. Go do your good work, and we'll
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: trust you with that.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 5: And it's optics. Yeah, we care. We give money to
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: these organizations. It's all about your children.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: I hear you. I hear you. But that's going on regularly.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: But then again, none of that relates to the internal
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: struggles they have. And I'll be the first person to
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: maybe call red flag. Do they really need all that
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: much more staff? Or could they hire more competent people
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: to get the work done?
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: I think it's B. Because it really, the first thing
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: that came to my mind was the whole 80-20 rule,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 5: where 20% of the people are doing 80% of the work.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: And so the other 80% are underperforming, so to speak.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe they should go back to meritocracy.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 5: Maybe they should.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, we got that problem solved then, don't we?
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: But we don't have a problem solved concerning this money
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: that flows out to these nonprofit organizations, these nongovernmental organizations.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: So have they changed that? I see changes to leverage
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: support funding on my list here.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: Right. So at the past couple of meetings, they've been
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 5: considering an ordinance to change how they operate or manage
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: the leverage support program, which is basically a grant To
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 5: local organizations.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: This is what we just talked about.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: And in the past, how it worked is the organization
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: would submit an application to the city manager. They would
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 5: go through certain criteria, and they would rank them, and
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 5: they'd come up with a dollar amount that the organization
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: would receive in a grant. And then it would go
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: to the mayor, and then it would go to the
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 5: city council. Well, both the mayor and the city council
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: can add money to those grants arbitrarily.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: Sphincter-inspired amounts.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and so what happens is the city doesn't have
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: all the money that they used to have to do
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: these things.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Well, how can you keep track of the dollars available
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: if the mayor can go randomly add a whole bunch
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: more in expenditures without the council even being able to
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: budget for it?
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 5: That's right. That's right. This is insanity. And so I
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: think they're starting to feel the pinch of.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: Let me guess, the outside organizations pressuring them to give
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: them even more money?
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 5: Yes, or the same amount of money. I think they
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 5: have to make some cuts. And so they've set it
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: up now where they're trying to get the city council
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: kind of out of the business of modifying whatever the
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: city manager comes up with.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: Well, that takes the outside political pressure off of them,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: doesn't it?
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: There's nothing I can do about it.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: You used to work with me, says council member XYZ,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: and then now you've got to work with them.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: So the five people that voted for this change, that's
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 5: what they think. And the four people that didn't vote
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: for the change says, this isn't going to work. We're
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: still going to get the same amount of pressure from
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: the public.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: That's like a divided Supreme Court. Maybe we need to
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: pack council with more Republicans or some Republicans to right
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: the ship.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I don't hold out much prospect for that.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: We gave up. Somebody brought the flag out a long
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: time ago, Todd Zinser. Remember, to the voters in the
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati, all of this ridiculous gullibility. crap that
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: we're staring at this morning that todd's walking us through
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: uh democrats have been in charge for the city in
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: charge of the city for how many decades now todd
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: at least four or five okay this wasn't a republican
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: creative problem we inherited this from i don't know eugene
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: ruleman 746 one more with todd's sir we're not going
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: to make it through the whole list i've got to
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: bring you back don't go away folks odor exit first
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: todd zinzer hold on because i got Tiffany Green, Officer
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: Green from the Cincinnati Police Department Crime Stopper Division to
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: help us catch a Crime Stopper Bad Guy of the Week.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Officer Green. Thank you for what you do
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: every day and who are we looking for?
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: Good morning and thank you, Brian. The Cincinnati Police District
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: 3 Investigative Unit is looking for Diego Robinson.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 8: Mr.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: Robinson is wanted for felony burglary and misdemeanor criminal damaging
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: and misdemeanor aggravated menacing. Investigators say Mr. Robinson climbed through
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: the victim's bedroom, window without the victim's consent. Once inside, Mr.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: Robinson proceeded to damage the victim's property. Diego Robinson is
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: a black male. He's 23 years old. He's 5'7 and
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: 140 pounds. Diego Robinson has an arrest history of failure
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: to comply with police officer and was last known to
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: live on East Ledge Street in Madisonville. If anyone has
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: information on where police can find Diego Robinson, please call
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: Crime Stoppers at 513- 352-3040, or submit a tip online
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: at crime-stoppers.us.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: You'll be eligible for a cash reward if you tip
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: Lisa an arrest, but you'll let Crime Stoppers keep that.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: We just want to get this guy off the street
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: because he is clearly a menace to society. Officer Green
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: will be looking for him. His photo's on my blog page, 55krc. iheart. com.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you again for the Cincinnati Police Department's work for
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: the community each and every day. God bless each and
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: every one of you. Todd Zinser, I intro'd it. Let's
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: move over to the railroad money.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: Right, so... A lot of people are looking at how
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: their railroad money is being spent, as they should.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: And we've got problems spending that money. But there's also
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 5: issues on the investment side. You have to keep an
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: eye on the investment side as well.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: That's the board that's responsible for that.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 5: That's correct. That's the board that is responsible for maintaining
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 5: the— it' s up close to $ 2 billion now.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: And they have a fiduciary obligation to do their best
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: to maximize the return on that investment, do they not?
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 5: That's correct.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Responsibly managed.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 5: Responsibly managed. That's correct. So there's three big issues. There's
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 5: a whole nest of issues involving the board and the
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: investment advisors.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: Of course there are.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 5: But the first one is the board has decided that
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 5: instead of issuing a standalone financial statement audit, they'll just merge...
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 5: the financial information of the board and the trust into
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: the city's financial statement. So it gets much less treatment
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: than they would with a standalone audit. And I'm not
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: really sure why they're doing that, except that there was
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: some kind of conversation that it would cost an extra
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 5: $ 30, 000 to have. Well, they can afford a $.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: 353, 000 IRS penalty. I think they can come up with
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: 30 grand to cover an independent audit.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: And the board is independent and a separate complete entity
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: from the city of Cincinnati, which makes me wonder why
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: in the hell would anyone think including it within a
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati broader audit would be appropriate?
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: The accountants can classify the trust as something called a
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 5: merged component unit because the rationale is that the trust
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: fund is all about Cincinnati. Cincinnati is the only beneficiary.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 5: It doesn't make it part of the city.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: Listen, we live in a time where I can say
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: I'm a girl and people are supposed to swallow that.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make it true, Todd.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: So this makes it even worse, Brian. According to the
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: state law that set this whole operation up, the board
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: is supposed to do an audit based on their calendar year. Well,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 5: the city does their books on a fiscal year basis.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 5: So right off the bat.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: You can't do it then.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 5: Right off the bat, there's a six-month gap.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 5: And I don't know what happened. I don't know how
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 5: they accounted for the financial transactions during that gap period.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 5: And the law requires a calendar year audit. And they're
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 5: not doing a calendar year audit.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: I question the word standing comes up, whether someone has
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: standing to go after, maybe litigate some of these issues.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: Is this something that an outside citizen could pursue? Is
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: this something, again, going back to the Attorney General's office?
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I have to wonder, how can
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: they be held accountable? How can they be forced to
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: go back to regularly accepted accounting standards? Because this does
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: not sound like it, Todd.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 5: Well, it technically does comply with the standards. But what
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 5: it doesn't comply with is anything to do with transparency
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 5: about that investment fund. And for example, you look at
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 5: the investments that the board is making They've started investing
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: in private credit. And private credit is not like the
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: stock market. Private credit is you're investing in an individual company.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: But in the case of the board, there are brokers
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 5: out there that will take your money, put it into
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 5: private credit. And then what's really shocking is that those
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 5: managers of those private credit pools, so to speak, they're getting... Oh,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: here we go.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: This is where the money comes in, right, Todd?
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 5: 1.25% on the value of those investments.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: So whatever slice of the $ 2 trillion they throw at
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: private credit, that outside guy gets 1.2%.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 5: That's right. That's right. That's outrageous.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Does anybody ever vet these outside guys? I mean, determine
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: ahead of time whether there's a conflict of interest between
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: them and the members of the board who make this decision?
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: Here's the thing. What I recommended to the board that
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 5: they have completely rejected is that the problem is you
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 5: have UBS as their investment advisor, right?
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: They're the ones that are advising the board to invest
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 5: in this private credit. Well, the board doesn't know anything
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 5: about private credit. So who's supposed to Who's supposed to
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 5: advise them on whether this private credit is worthwhile? The
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: same advisor that's pushing it on them in the first place.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: There's a conflict there. And I said they should bring
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: in an outside investment advisor to take a look at
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: this whole private credit thing and make sure that it's
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: not too risky. Because if it's too risky, then the
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: board runs into the idea that they're being speculative. And
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 5: they're not allowed to be speculative.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Going back to the fiduciary obligation.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 5: That's correct. Wow.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: Todd Zinser, that is a plate full that you just
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: gave us today here.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: It's 8.06, and it's a happy Friday. All Fridays are
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: happy to a certain degree. Some less than others, and
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of folks are having a little bit of concern, angst,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: and anxiety over Tuesday. We've all got the memo about
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: the blue wave that's coming our way. I've talked to
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: so many people about this. How do you feel about it?
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: It's never going to happen. There's no way the Republicans
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: are going to show out in huge numbers. We're going
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: to beat this back. It's that Democrats aren't engaged. They're
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: not all socialists. They don't embrace this. But then everybody's
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: pissed off about inflation and the price of gasoline. I
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: just keep going back to the reality that the Democrats
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: brought you, by virtue of legislation, expensive gasoline. It was
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: worse before than it is now. At least now it's
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: just a question of economics causing it. Welcome back. To
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: the 55KRC morning show, vote Vivek Ramaswamy on Tuesday. If
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: you haven't voted already, dear God, please save us from
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Governor Amy Acton, which even saying it out loud gives
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  Speaker 1: me a bit of nausea. Welcome back, Vivek Ramaswamy. Find
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  Speaker 1: him online at vivek4ohio. com. It's good to have you on
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  Speaker 1: one more time.
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  Speaker 4: Great to be on, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing? I'm doing fine. Last hours, basically days,
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  Speaker 1: in essence, of the campaign. How are you feeling about
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  Speaker 1: it right now? I keep talking to people, Vivek, who
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  Speaker 1: are They're either there's no way the blue wave is
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  Speaker 1: going to happen or more of them. And I emphasize
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  Speaker 1: more of them are like we are screwed on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: It's not going to be a beautiful day to wake
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  Speaker 1: up to on Wednesday. Where is Vivek Ramaswamy? And please
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  Speaker 1: try to talk those folks off the ledge.
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  Speaker 8: Look, I think it's going to be a great it's
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  Speaker 8: going to be a great day. I think we are
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  Speaker 8: on track. The people of the state are wise. And
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  Speaker 8: I know that the people of our state are when
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  Speaker 8: we're really under threat for our way of life. People
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  Speaker 8: step up and they get out and vote.
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  Speaker 4: That's what they're doing. And this is a fork in
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  Speaker 4: the road, Brian.
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  Speaker 8: This is not an ordinary election.
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  Speaker 4: This is between common sense and communism. OK, this is
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  Speaker 4: what's on the ballot.
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  Speaker 8: You look at what's happening in Paris or New York City,
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  Speaker 8: which is under socialist.
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  Speaker 4: Rule, or L.A.
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  Speaker 8: Or Minneapolis or even Dearborn, Michigan, just to the north
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  Speaker 8: of us. We can't let that come to Ohio. And
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  Speaker 8: that choice belongs to us, to you, to we the people.
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  Speaker 8: And it is a choice about fighting for your family,
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  Speaker 8: about who's going to actually make your family's life better.
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  Speaker 8: I'm running against a woman who is probably the public
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  Speaker 8: official that's caused more damage to the lives of Ohioans
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  Speaker 8: than anyone else in the 21st century.
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  Speaker 4: She quit the job.
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  Speaker 8: It turns out that's the longest job she's ever held.
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  Speaker 8: I do not believe Ohioans are going to be anywhere
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  Speaker 8: close to rewarding that failure with a promotion.
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  Speaker 4: Someone who compares the law.
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  Speaker 8: Enforcement to the KKK, as we see a broader socialist,
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  Speaker 8: communist movement, anti-rule of law epidemic spreading across the country
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  Speaker 8: in the West. I think people in Ohio have great
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  Speaker 8: common sense.
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  Speaker 4: We're smart people.
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  Speaker 1: We're wise people.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to get it right.
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  Speaker 8: And for my part, Ryan, we just released this morning,
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  Speaker 8: we're already drafting up the day one executive orders.
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  Speaker 4: We already have the team ready to go.
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  Speaker 8: We're ready to execute for Ohioans to bring down property costs,
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  Speaker 8: property tax costs immediately, bring down electric bills immediately. initiate
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  Speaker 8: the waste, fraud, abuse investigations, as well as prosecutions immediately
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  Speaker 8: to save on health care costs.
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  Speaker 4: This morning, we just put out the top.
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  Speaker 8: Seven executive orders I'm signing before midnight on January 11th
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  Speaker 8: in detail.
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  Speaker 4: We are ready to execute.
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  Speaker 8: We're ready to start early to deliver big time on
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  Speaker 8: lower costs, including lower property taxes and electric bills, big
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  Speaker 8: time on combating crime, ending sanctuary cities, including Columbus, but
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  Speaker 8: also Cleveland and Cincinnati. across the state, we're ready to execute.
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  Speaker 8: And I think that's what Ohioans are ready for. And
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  Speaker 8: that's why I feel great heading into Tuesday. We're going
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  Speaker 8: to be coming out with a victory.
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  Speaker 1: I am so pleased to hear that. I know you've
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  Speaker 1: been enthused from the get-go. And of course, there is
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  Speaker 1: no question. There are just, there's a sea of difference
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the qualifications for the job, which I
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  Speaker 1: keep going back to. But let me just put A
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  Speaker 1: finer point on this, because I have been critical of
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and I was at the time he uttered it,
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  Speaker 1: I will bring down inflation day one. Now, I hear
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  Speaker 1: something like that, and I know no human being is
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  Speaker 1: capable of doing that. There are so many other factors
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  Speaker 1: outside of the realm of even the presidential office to
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  Speaker 1: deal with to bring down inflation just generally. So with
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  Speaker 1: that springboard, the question I want to ask you, you
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  Speaker 1: said day one, I will bring down electric bills. I
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  Speaker 1: know my listeners would love to hear how you're going
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  Speaker 1: to accomplish that, because I pay an outrageous electric bill,
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  Speaker 1: and it just keeps going up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look.
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  Speaker 8: Look, it's a good question, Brian, but the important thing
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  Speaker 8: is if you listen carefully to my commentary, I am
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  Speaker 8: commenting directly on things that are a consequence of policies
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  Speaker 8: that the state, specifically the governor, can actually set. I
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  Speaker 8: don't believe in making false promises. I'm making the promises
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  Speaker 8: I can directly keep. Property taxation is directly a consequence
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  Speaker 8: of government-created policy. So what I've said, we put it
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  Speaker 8: in the announcement this morning. On day one, I'm going
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  Speaker 8: to start investigations of any locality where property taxes have
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  Speaker 8: more than doubled to provide a public accounting of how
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  Speaker 8: those dollars have been spent. Right now, in many cases,
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  Speaker 8: it's a bit of a mystery. It's opaque because school
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  Speaker 8: performance has gone down while property taxes have doubled in
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  Speaker 8: those very regions. So that transparency and sunlight is going
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  Speaker 8: to be the first step to a legislative solution here
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  Speaker 8: to roll the property tax rate and base down. back
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  Speaker 8: to where it was pre-pandemic. That's common sense. By the way,
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  Speaker 8: our schools are performing better then. And if there are
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  Speaker 8: that are really necessary, we're not going to leave police,
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  Speaker 8: fire or local schools holding the bag. There's models for
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  Speaker 8: statewide backstops. But that is a practical solution that delivers
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  Speaker 8: the biggest property tax relief package to homeowners across the state.
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  Speaker 8: That's real money in your pocket. That's a real difference
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  Speaker 8: for being able to afford costs elsewhere in your life.
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  Speaker 8: Electricville's very same story. Ohio's part of PJM, okay? And
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  Speaker 8: I think Ohio has not been assertive enough in standing
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  Speaker 8: for Ohioans' cost interest in PJM. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 8: out-of-state interests, Democrat, left-leaning interests that effectively impose costs over
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  Speaker 8: the years through climate change policies, through Green New Deal
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  Speaker 8: policies that change the energy mix that feeds that grid. Well,
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  Speaker 8: guess who ends up paying for it? Ohioans do. Homeowners do.
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  Speaker 8: And can the governor make a difference there? You're darn
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  Speaker 8: right we can if you're willing to actually fight for Ohioans' interests.
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  Speaker 8: My job isn't to fight for climate change policies. My
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  Speaker 8: job is to lower costs by increasing supply of energy
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  Speaker 8: and by producing more energy in Ohio and reasserting ourselves
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  Speaker 8: to fix a few tweaks in our relationship with PJM
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  Speaker 8: and provide alternatives for people in Ohio, bringing nuclear energy
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  Speaker 8: to the state as well. These are areas where I know,
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  Speaker 8: I don't think, I know I can make a difference
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  Speaker 8: as a governor to slash your electric bills in half,
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  Speaker 8: to bring down the property tax rates in many parts
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  Speaker 8: of this state by half. These are practical solutions that
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  Speaker 8: we have day one plans, we're ready to execute on.
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  Speaker 8: But here, Brian, this is the choice, because God forbid
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  Speaker 8: if Amy Acton, the woman who failed this state once
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  Speaker 8: and then quit, who's never held a job for more
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  Speaker 8: than two years, now seeking a four-year position as governor.
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  Speaker 8: God forbid if she's ever governor. You mark this very
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  Speaker 8: carefully to understand the stakes. Your property taxes are on
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  Speaker 8: track to continue to double over the next 18 to
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  Speaker 8: 24 months, if not the next year. Your electric bills
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  Speaker 8: will double over the course of the next 12 to
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  Speaker 8: 24 months. That's just the trajectory we're headed on, especially
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  Speaker 8: with the plans that she has laid out to the
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  Speaker 8: extent you could even call them that. So that's the
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  Speaker 8: choice on the ballot. Do you want your property taxes
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  Speaker 8: and electric bills cut by half, or do you want
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  Speaker 8: them to double?
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  Speaker 4: Do you want to combat crime.
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  Speaker 8: In the streets of our cities, including my hometown of Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 8: or do you want to compare law enforcement to the KKK,
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  Speaker 8: as she did last year, letting crime run rampant? Do
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  Speaker 8: you want to end sanctuary city status, or do you
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  Speaker 8: want to effectively let this scourge of illegal behavior, including
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  Speaker 8: illegal immigration, continue in Ohio? That is the choice on
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  Speaker 8: the ballot. And I believe in the wisdom of the
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  Speaker 8: people of our state. Our founders fought a revolution, so
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  Speaker 8: we could self-govern. So it's up to us. And on
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  Speaker 8: this 250th anniversary, the question is, what are you willing
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  Speaker 8: to do to fight for your state, to fight for
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  Speaker 8: your family, to fight for your kids, fight for your grandkids,
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  Speaker 8: and fight for our country? All you have to do
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  Speaker 8: is get out and vote and take as many people
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  Speaker 8: with you and force as many other people in your
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  Speaker 8: family and friend group to do the same thing. And
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  Speaker 8: if you all do your part, I'm going to do mine.
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  Speaker 8: We're going to lead this state to greater heights than
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  Speaker 8: we've ever seen. I truly believe that deep in my bones.
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  Speaker 8: We have a positive vision for the state and plans
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  Speaker 8: to execute on it. But I do worry that, God forbid,
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  Speaker 8: if a leftist like Amy Acton were to come to power,
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  Speaker 8: it's part of a socialist wave spreading across our country.
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  Speaker 8: It'll be an economic devastation for Ohio. CEOs who are
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  Speaker 8: looking at Ohio as a place for investment have already.
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  Speaker 4: Told me they would go elsewhere.
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  Speaker 8: If, God forbid, Amy Acton came anywhere near the levers
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  Speaker 8: of power. And I hate to say it, but that
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  Speaker 8: makes sense. Because if you're in their shoes, you would
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  Speaker 8: look at it the same way.
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  Speaker 1: Well, who would know more than you, a person who's
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  Speaker 1: done business in the state of Ohio since you were
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  Speaker 1: a young man? I mean, this is your hometown here
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  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. You built a business in Ohio, and you
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  Speaker 1: understand the challenges and the impediments to be able to
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  Speaker 1: effectively grow a business for the benefit of everybody in Ohio.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 8: And look, I've signed in front of a paycheck, Brian,
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  Speaker 8: not just the back of one. I've created thousands of jobs.
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  Speaker 8: I do know how to bring economic growth as a
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  Speaker 8: governor to this state. And I'm excited to do that.
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  Speaker 8: That's going to lift all of us up. Bigger paychecks,
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  Speaker 8: more jobs coming into the state, combined out with reducing
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  Speaker 8: the property tax burden, reducing electric bill burdens, and also
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 8: even cutting red tape that stops new home construction for
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  Speaker 8: young people. I mean, that's another one, too, to help
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  Speaker 8: our workforce stay here, make home ownership more affordable, even
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  Speaker 8: on the front end. If you're building more of those
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  Speaker 8: starter homes, 16-, 17-, 1,800-square-foot starter homes on a quarter
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  Speaker 8: or third of an acre plot, that's a great start
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  Speaker 8: in the American dream. Those are the homes that aren't
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  Speaker 8: getting built, which is why the average age of a first-time.
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  Speaker 4: Homebuyer in Ohio is now 41 years old. Think about that.
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  Speaker 8: I'm 41, Brian, and hopefully in a week I'll be
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  Speaker 8: the governor-elect. The age of the first-time homebuyer should not
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  Speaker 8: be the same age as the governor of the state.
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  Speaker 8: But we can fix these problems. And so these are areas,
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  Speaker 8: to your earlier point, where it turns out a governor
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  Speaker 8: can actually make even a bigger difference than a federal leader,
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  Speaker 8: even a U.S. president, when it comes to those core
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  Speaker 8: areas of property taxes, electric bills, even housing costs. I
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  Speaker 8: know I can make a difference here, but we've got
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  Speaker 8: to get elected to do it. And that requires– if
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  Speaker 8: you haven't gotten out to vote– I mean early voting
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  Speaker 8: is open today. You guys can just get out and
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  Speaker 8: go today to cast the vote and just get your
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  Speaker 8: friends and family to do it, too. Take responsibility for that.
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  Speaker 8: And if you do that, you should hold me accountable
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  Speaker 8: to deliver on everything that I'm telling you we're going
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  Speaker 8: to do for you starting in January.
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  Speaker 1: Well, go to Vivek Ramasamy on Facebook. You can see
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: the day one executive orders and read every one of them,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: which includes, for all my friends out there waiting for
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  Speaker 1: a responsible steward with the taxpayer dollars, Executive Order No. 4,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: Direct Department of Medicaid to Investigate Waste, Fraud, and Abuse.
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  Speaker 1: That'll inure to our benefit. And again, you're looking out
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  Speaker 1: for the taxpayer dollars that we have no control over
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  Speaker 1: once they're gone out of our pockets. Vivek Ramaswamy. Go
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  Speaker 1: to Vivek4Ohio to check out the campaign website. Again, Vivek
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  Speaker 1: Ramaswamy on Facebook. Multiple places to find this. I wish
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  Speaker 1: you all the best, sir. I truly do. I am
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: praying for the state of Ohio that you are our
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  Speaker 1: next governor.
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  Speaker 4: Get out and vote, and we can make it happen.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. 818- At 55KRC. 55KRC,
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  Speaker 1: the talk station. Just have 830 here at 55KRC, the
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: talk station, on a Friday. Very good time to be
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: tuning in here to the 55KRC Morning Show. I hope
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: you have his site bookmarked, theohiopressnetwork.com. I hope you're listening
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: to his broadcast throughout the week. It's Jack Windsor. Welcome back, Jack,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: my friend. It's always a pleasure to have you on
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: the 55KRC Morning Show. Happy Friday and happy Halloween Eve.
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  Speaker 6: Happy Friday, happy Halloween Eve, and happy election season, Brian.
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  Speaker 6: Honor to be here, man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, as much quote-unquote fun as guys like you and
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: I have in anticipation and in the build-up to the election,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: I presume, like me, you'll be really, really happy when
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: it's all behind us. Because we're going to have to
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: start talking about the 2028 campaign on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, that's absolutely right. I mean, that's the weird thing
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 6: that I think people forget this election cycle is this
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 6: race between John Husted and Sherrod Brown is a special election.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 6: And the winner just serves out the rest of J.D.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 6: Vance's initial term and has to run again in 2028.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 6: And then, of course, in 2028, presidential election year, many
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 6: of us expect Vice President J.D. Vance, Ohio's own, to
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 6: be running for POTUS in 2028. So, yeah, man, take
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 6: a nap. Wednesday morning and by Wednesday afternoon, let's go.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: Hit the ground running. All right, let's start with the
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: abortion topic. I sent you that article yesterday, and Maureen,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: who sent the article to me with a specific request,
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: please pass this on to Jack Windsor in case he
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: hasn't seen it. Maureen was just on the show. She
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: called in from Florida, offered her comments on some other issues,
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: but this one was on her radar, and I said, well,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: I'll talk to Jack about the abortion issue with Amy
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: Acton right out of the gate. So she's listening. I'm listening.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: What's this all about, Jack Windsor?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so there's really two things here, and I've got
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 6: to be careful saying what's accurate and what isn't. But
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 6: at the end of the day, Acton was the Ohio
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 6: Department of Health director appointed in February of 2019. On
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 6: November 12th of 2019, ODH, under her leadership, issued a
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 6: license to Women's Med Center in Kettering after a lengthy
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 6: series of court battles that let it continue surgical abortion.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 6: So There was a stoppage and then there was a
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 6: scrum in the court system. The Ohio Supreme Court weighed
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 6: in and the Ohio Department of Health issued essentially a
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 6: permit for, and I think it closed down and then
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 6: reopened is how it went. And so many in the
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 6: pro-life community look at that as Amy Acton working hard
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 6: behind the scenes when everything was kind of in disarray
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 6: to make sure that women could still have abortions. And
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 6: by the way, she was also, gosh, what was she?
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 6: She served as a community research and grants manager at
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 6: the Columbus Foundation prior to serving as the director of
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 6: the Ohio Department of Health and grants there, obviously, to
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 6: many abortion, pro-abortion groups. But also, my understanding is there
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 6: were grants that were administered to CARE Ohio, C-A-I-R That's
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  Speaker 6: the nefarious group we've talked about ad nauseum. I'm not
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 6: saying Amy Acton personally approved those grants, but she was
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 6: involved leading that grant team. And CARE, as many of
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 6: your listeners know, was the unindicted Koch conspirator in the
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 6: Holy Land case that uncovered millions and millions of dollars
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 6: being funneled through these groups to Hamas terrorists. And CARE
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 6: is a group that has endorsed in this election cycle,
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 6: they've endorsed The attorney general candidate, John Kulowicz, and just concerning.
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  Speaker 4: Stuff, right?
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  Speaker 1: I guess I want to know, what capacity does CAIR
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  Speaker 1: have anything to do with the functioning of the government
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  Speaker 1: of the state of Ohio?
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  Speaker 6: Well, look, I think they posture themselves as like a
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 6: pro-Palestinian type of organization.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: What does that have to do with the functioning of
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: the government of the state of Ohio, Jack Winter?
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: Period.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 6: It does not. It does not. So when Vivek Ramaswamy
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 6: stands on stage and says, I want to put Ohio first,
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 6: that should resonate with some people. But Amy Acton also
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 6: has the endorsement of people like State Representative Ishmael Muhammad.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 6: He's the guy you'll remember who was on video back in,
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 6: I think, late 2024 talking about how he's here to
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 6: represent Somalians in the state. It's not Ohioans in his district,
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 6: but Somalians. He's also the guy that is really under
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 6: the microscope right now for buying an almost $ 600, 000 home.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 6: outside of his district and saying under oath that he
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 6: signed his name to false statements in the mortgage application,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 6: the tax document, his financial disclosures, claims that he has
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 6: a wife under Sharia. So these are the types of
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 6: people that are backing Amy Act. And I think Ohioans
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 6: are starting to wake up to that, but we only
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 6: have four days, so they better wake up fast.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: Starting to wake up to it. And you and I
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: have been talking about this for so long, Jack, and
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: people don't wake up until the moment before the election
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: and realize that just the awful state of affairs that
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: we're facing here and the, and the consequences of this
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: election and how overwhelmingly important it is. This is a
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: presidential election weight election. I mean, we're an off year,
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: but this is not feeling at all like an off year, Jack.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 6: It, well, first of all, it is not feeling that
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 6: way and it should not because Amy Acton has never,
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 6: I don't think she's ever held a job for four years.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 6: She wants to be governor of Ohio for four years.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 6: And if she's not able to be recorded, if she's
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 6: not able to debate, if you've seen the video that
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 6: came out just yesterday from Toledo, she's not going to govern.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: Someone asked me how drunk she was.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying she was. That's the kind of thing.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: You just watch the video, and impairment comes to mind.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's accurate, but you draw your own conclusions.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: Here's my prediction, Jack Wins. Before we take a break,
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: we get on to the media carrying the water for
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: liberal candidates, plus the problems with the attorney general candidate, Kulowitz.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: I think she is the Manchurian candidate type person that
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: when she gets in, she's got a documented record of quitting.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: She'll claim emotional exhaustion or some medical problem, and Pepper
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: will become governor, lieutenant governor. Or if that doesn't happen.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 6: Or if that's the scenario, they keep her there as
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 6: the front.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 4: The figurehead.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 6: What they did with Joe Biden. They just kind of
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 6: auto-penned their way through.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: And Pepper will be behind pulling the strings the entire time.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: I think that's the obvious outcome. Don't go away more
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: with Jack Windsor. 840 at 55KRC, the talk station, theohiopressnetwork.com.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: Jack Windsor, that's his webpage. And he joins the program
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: every Friday here on the 55KRC Morning Show to talk
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: to you about some topics. So putting Amy Acton behind us,
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: but you're pivoting over to, well, pretty much Amy Acton,
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: but all other left-wing candidates. It's really disturbing. I think
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: For anybody who just rolled their eyes at the constant
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: comments from Republicans, conservatives, the mainstream media is biased. I've
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: been listening to that for 15 or 20 years, Jack,
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: maybe even longer. This election cycle reveals it. It's as
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: if they came out loud and said, we are in
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: the bag for the Democrats. You don't even have to
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: guess anymore. It's not a conspiracy theory, says the mainstream media.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: It's obvious. We're doing it on purpose.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 6: So there's a lot here, and I'm going to start
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 6: with what I know. Here's what I know. You and
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 6: I talked a couple of months ago about a guy
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 6: in Canfield, Ohio, who was arrested. And when that happened,
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 6: the Acton campaign put out a press release almost immediately
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 6: and said that an armed man lunged at Acton, two
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 6: people were injured, and that is what the Associated Press,
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 6: that is what all the news outlets in Ohio ran with,
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 6: was the Acton narrative. Well, I looked at the law
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 6: enforcement reports as quickly as I could. I tried to
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 6: obtain information. And it's embarrassing for the press, or it
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 6: should be, that this guy, I mean, the prosecutor will
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 6: even tell you, held up his phone and said, Dr. Acton,
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 6: I have a question. Didn't attack her. Two people were
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 6: not injured. One news outlet, Brian, actually called it an
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 6: assassination attempt. I want you to think about how inept
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 6: and feckless you have to be to call that an
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 6: assassination attempt. That's number one. I don't want to talk
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 6: about the Donna Arthur ad and the merits of it
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 6: or what was true, what wasn't. What I do want
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 6: to talk about is I've done some digging into who
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 6: actually requested records from the law enforcement authorities from the
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 6: court system. And what I'm starting to see is that
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 6: the press did it again. Once the ad hit, the
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 6: Acton campaign had a long time ago known that this
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 6: might be a risk. So the operatives gathered some information
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 6: and hand-selected what they wanted to go out to the press,
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 6: assembled it probably with a narrative, sent it to the press,
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 6: and the press did the same thing again. They started
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 6: publishing what the Acton campaign handed to them. Some of them,
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 6: I called them in the act saying, court records that
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 6: we obtained. I went back and said, show me who
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 6: requested the records and when, and those outlets did not
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 6: request records. They took the information from the acting campaign
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 6: and they parroted it. That's number one. I can tell
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 6: you about two or three other things that bother me,
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 6: but what the hell are we doing as a free
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 6: press if all we're going to do is take press
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 6: release information and pretend that we're actually doing journalistic investigative
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 6: work before we publish it because it's not happening.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I think they all just generally consider themselves, they're
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: not journalists with some measure of journalistic standards, which is
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: objective reporting of the facts, leaving the general public to
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: draw its conclusions, politically or otherwise. But they have become
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: basically a collective of online bloggers commenting randomly about their
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: own mindset on certain things, or obviously twisting the truth
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: to a person's political advantage. And that's exactly what happens.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking about, you're accusing someone of attempted assassination,
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: and this is not a public figure they're accusing. This
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: is a regular run-of-the-mill person merely trying to ask a question.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: I think you're entering the realm of slander on that.
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe he might have a legal action against someone who
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: would accuse him of that. Because, I mean, we know
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: who it is. He's on video. They have him. It
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: was all documented.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 6: It was all documented. And my understanding is I have
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 6: to be careful here.
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: Reliable if it's written.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's scuttlebutt. But here's what we are also starting
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 6: to understand. The prosecutor went forward and started, you know, prosecuting,
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 6: assembling and prosecuting the case. And the Acton campaign ghosted him. Basically,
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 6: it was like we put the press release out. We
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 6: got what we wanted out of here. We're going to
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 6: go over here and do something else. I want to
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 6: talk about this. Let's cut through the noise. Amy Acton
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 6: was health director in 2020. Masks do not work. Six
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 6: feet of social distance was made up. The vaccine does
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 6: not stop the spread. You can talk about its efficacy,
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 6: but that was her area of expertise. She lasted less
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 6: than 100 days. The Washington Examiner published an article, and
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you caught this the first time
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 6: that you read it, Brian, but Amy Acton, prior to COVID,
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 6: had to deliver a budget proposal for the Ohio Department
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 6: of Health. The language was written for her. to go
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 6: ahead and testify before the Ohio General Assembly. She broke
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 6: down in the bathroom crying, saying she couldn't do that.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 6: That was before COVID. And then, of course, once COVID hit,
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 6: you know, we've heard that she was balled up on
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 6: the floor in the fetal position, unable to effectively operate
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 6: in that position. More than one time, Governor Mike DeWine said, well, Amy,
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 6: what do you think about that? Amy, Amy, she wasn't there.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 6: This is not rocket science. This woman in her area
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 6: of expertise failed. Vivek Ramaswamy is a successful man who
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 6: has succeeded at almost everything he's ever done. I don't
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 6: get the Republican Party who is apoplectic about him getting
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 6: to get over themselves. For a decade, they screamed about
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 6: somebody who wasn't a rhino. You have a billionaire who's
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 6: independently wealthy, does not have to be beholden to the
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 6: lobby and donor class, and has talked about bold reforms
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 6: with a plan, with a plan, more than any governor
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 6: I've seen in my history. And Republicans seem to be dithering.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 6: We better wake up.
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: Without question, Jack. That incenses me more than anything else.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: Don't go away. One more with Jack Windsor from the
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: Iowa Press Network. Be right back. 55KRC. 849 on a Friday.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: Hope you have some great plans for this weekend. You'll
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: get a lot of trick-or-treaters over your place. One more
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: segment here with Jack Windsor from the Iowa Press Network.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: Got more details about the AG candidate Kulowitz. What's going
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: on with this one, Jack?
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so, you know, Kulowicz is part of that camp
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 6: that wants you to believe that the rich people ought
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 6: to pay their fair share. Turns out he's an attorney
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 6: and a pretty darn good one, but an attorney who
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 6: represented wealthy people and insurance companies and big companies and
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 6: made a mint. But he wrote a book several years
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 6: ago that I have my hands on. I'm going to
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 6: make sure I dive into it over the weekend a
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 6: little bit more. But this guy's a communist. He really
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 6: likes the communist movement. He loves socialism. And he was
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 6: proud back in May when he got an endorsement from CAIR, C-A-I-R,
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 6: the group that we've already talked about. That was the
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 6: unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land case that involved the
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 6: financing of Hamas, the terrorist group. And, you know, just
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 6: an all shucks kind of nice guy persona, but full
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 6: on Democrat socialist of America. And by the way, that's,
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 6: I guess the thing I want many people to understand.
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 6: This is not my grandpa's Democrat party. My grandpa was
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 6: a union president. He was a JFK guy. Uh, Amy Acton,
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 6: Sherrod Brown, John Kulowicz are more like Zoran Mamdani and
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 6: Abdul El-Sayed than they are like JFK or FDR. So
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 6: if there are Democrats who are just legacy voters for Democrats, uh,
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 6: And I don't know how many of them listen to
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 6: this show, but you might want to take a closer
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 6: look at Sherrod Brown, Amy Acton, John Kulowicz, and some
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 6: of the other Democrats in this race because they are
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 6: full-on rubber stampers for the Democrat Socialists of America.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess I can say fortunately, although my grandfather's
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: passing was a sad event, fortunately he's not around to
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: see what his party has become. And going back to
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: your point, JFK would be considered a Republican. He wanted
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 1: lower taxes, recognizing that lower taxes bring more money into government.
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: What you spend it on make them Democrat. But still,
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: he at least understood that concept. But my grandfather became
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: a Democrat when FDR hired him to work on the CCC.
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: You know, like the WPA, the CCC. They gave him
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: a job at like a young age when the economy
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: was tanked and nobody had the jobs. It was Great
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: Depression time. And that made him a Democrat his entire life.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: He said that out loud to me once because he
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: was dismayed that I was a Republican. So they bought
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: political loyalty with that job. So, and, and then if
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: he was alive today, he probably would still be voting Democrat,
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: you know, and this is the reality of it. It's,
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's in people's genetics or DNA that
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: they don't pay attention to what they're actually doing with
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: their vote. I mean, this, the guy doing legal work
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: for these evil corporations that he wants to take all
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: of their money, they wouldn't exist to pay him a
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: salary if, if he got his way. I mean, it's just,
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 1: it's insanity. It's insanity.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 6: I thought billionaires were bad, right?
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 6: Look, we get the same thing with David Pepper. David
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 6: Pepper's kvetching about Vivek Ramaswamy being on an airplane. I'm sorry, David.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 6: You mean to tell me that your dad, when he
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 6: was CEO and chairman at Procter & Gamble, was never
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 6: on a private plane? He never made a million dollars
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 6: a year? You're a trust fund, baby. You were born
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 6: on third base, and you're out here complaining about accomplishment.
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 6: That's what really gets me, Brian.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 6: I'm going to have one last rant.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 1: You're allowed.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 6: I want my kids to grow up in a state
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 6: where people praise success, where they don't give you the
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 6: lie that successful people stepped on the backs of people
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 6: up the ladder to get there. I want people who go,
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 6: I want people to have more power and more of
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 6: their own money. And I want to create an environment
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 6: where we actually help young people unlock the talent that
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 6: God gave them to achieve their best. When you look
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 6: at me and tell me that successful people are bad,
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 6: there's a stink on you that I'm never going to
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 6: not smell again. I don't get it. I can't vote
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 6: for somebody like that.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 1: A perception of ignorance that I will never forget. Wait
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 1: a second. You just said that and you believe that? Okay.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: I know what a useful idiot is then. You're one
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 6: That's right.
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's all. And look yourself in the mirror
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: and say, okay, I guess I'm a useful idiot. I
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: am being used to support principles that make no bloody
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: sense and will be the ruin of America. That's me
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: looking at myself in the mirror if you're that type
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: of person. Okay, fine. This is the world we live in.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: This is why the next Tuesday is so damn important,
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: Jack Windsor. And honestly, I'm worried. I really am.
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 6: Are you? Listen, I think, you know, and I don't
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 6: want to get in the weeds. I analyze. I overanalyze.
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 6: I think about polls and internal stuff, and I read it.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 6: If Republicans show up, they win. I talked to Vivek
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 6: last weekend. I said, where are you at? And he said,
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 6: if Christians and conservatives come out and vote, we win
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 6: this thing. I still believe that. And look, if you
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 6: look at some of the early voting returns, particularly in Cincinnati,
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 6: Congressional District 1, I don't think that the support there
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 6: for Sherrod and Amy is where it needs to be.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 6: I think the older voter population is turning out. I
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 6: think that's good on average for Republicans, younger voters that
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 6: tend to go toward Amy Acton and Sherrod Brown are
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 6: not showing up yet. They might show up on Election Day.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 6: But I think looking at some of these early voting
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 6: totals and understanding that Republicans are starting to mail in
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 6: More so, though, they're showing up early. If Republicans can
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 6: go to the polls at a larger clip than Democrats
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 6: on Tuesday, I think we win. And when I say we,
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 6: I'm not even saying I'm a Republican. I'm talking about
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 6: the people who are republic, who are sane, who think
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 6: that communism and socialism are a cautionary tale that have
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 6: killed millions of people over the years.
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: Without question. And I share your qualification on that. I
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: am a registered Republican, but I view the Republican Party
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: as the only mechanism for me to achieve my ultimately
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 1: little-L libertarian goals. That's the big tent that the Republican
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: Party will allow me in. They won't allow folks from
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: the Klan in, thank God. But, you know, if you're
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 1: over on the DSA side, they'll take any commie or
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: crazy in their big tent because we're a big tent. Okay, grind.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: You can have them, but you're going to ruin America
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: going down that road. Jack Windsor, TheOhioPressNetwork.com. Thanks, man. I
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: appreciate the note of optimism there toward the end, and
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 1: I hope my listeners heed that and hold your nose
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: if you have to to vote for Vivek Ramosomi. I
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 1: don't understand why that has to be a thing. Just
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: do it, for God's sake, please. Take care, Jack. We'll
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: do this next Friday, and hopefully we'll be able to
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: go over some positive news. Fingers crossed, man.
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 6: We're going to still be celebrating. God bless you. Have
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 6: a good weekend.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: And you, sir. Folks, if you didn't get a chance
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: to listen live, tech