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Steve Price | 4 April · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: This is Steve Price. We're going to Friday Night's Steve
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  Speaker 1: Price with you into election twenty twenty five. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: straight into it. After week one, the Prime Minister, I
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  Speaker 1: Reckon is going to be delighted how Donald Trump's tariff
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  Speaker 1: and grenade that's rocked the world and threatens a recession
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  Speaker 1: in the US has actually diverted attention away from our
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  Speaker 1: own federal election campaign. He's been screaming look over there,
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  Speaker 1: and the global reaction to this trade war. It takes attention,
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  Speaker 1: of course, away from the domestic issues that we should
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  Speaker 1: actually be talking about, like our own economy and a
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  Speaker 1: lack of growth, a country light on ambition, and a
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  Speaker 1: government that to me looks like it just wants to
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  Speaker 1: sneak back into office off the back of a disastrous
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  Speaker 1: three years. Their renewables program is hopelessly compromised. Nothing has
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  Speaker 1: been done to fix the housing crisis. Capital cities, especially Melbourne,
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  Speaker 1: are in the middle of a youth crime crisis. Businesses
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  Speaker 1: fall over every day of the week and the cost
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  Speaker 1: of living is completely out of control. So coming up,
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  Speaker 1: as we get set for week number two, we take
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  Speaker 1: you on the road as the two leaders criss cross
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  Speaker 1: the country in what is a brutal campaign schedule, not
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  Speaker 1: expected to let up until the day for Easter break
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  Speaker 1: starting on Good Friday, two weeks from today. And Trudy McIntosh,
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  Speaker 1: she spent the day on the Elbow Bus. She's up next,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll take you to the Victorian seat of Flinders
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  Speaker 1: and catch up with candidate Zoey mackenzie also tonight on
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  Speaker 1: the impact of those tariffs and any impact domestically on
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  Speaker 1: things like the car prices and food prices. We'll catch
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  Speaker 1: up with Adam Crichton from the IPA. He's recently spent
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  Speaker 1: time in the US and I'll find out what he
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  Speaker 1: makes of what Donald Trump announced yesterday. Plus the infamous
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  Speaker 1: drug kingpin Tony Mockbell sensatially granted bail today in advance
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  Speaker 1: of a case involving Melbourne's lawyer x Now. Mockbell's sister
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  Speaker 1: has stumped up over eight hundred thousand dollars in Surrey.
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  Speaker 1: Former Victorian detective and crime commentator Charlie Berzina will join
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  Speaker 1: us and I'll ask Charlie how the hell could two
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  Speaker 1: blokes get inside the MCG allegedly smuggling two handguns into
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  Speaker 1: a crowd of eighty thousand people. Now, as I said,
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  Speaker 1: we are week two week one in two five week
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  Speaker 1: election campaign. It feels like two one that will be compromised.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon in the middle, you're going to have a
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  Speaker 1: four day Easter break followed by the ANZAC Day Long Weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Now many Australians, I would imagine we'll have children also
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  Speaker 1: on school holidays and will if they can swing it,
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  Speaker 1: take Easter and the following week off on annual leave.
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  Speaker 1: Now I reckon this advantage is the Prime Minister greatly
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  Speaker 1: as the electorate. He'll tune out of the campaign for
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  Speaker 1: up to nine, maybe even ten days. The shutdown robs
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  Speaker 1: the coalition of valuable time to sell their messages. Today
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  Speaker 1: was all about Western Sydney. Trudy Macintosh was with the
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister. She've been on the bus today and joins me, Now,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think about that shutdown over? I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's probably good for you. You might be able to
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  Speaker 1: have a little break, but you got Easter, then you've
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  Speaker 1: got the ANZAC Day Long weekend. True, yet it's almost
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  Speaker 1: going to be you know, five six seven days with
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  Speaker 1: no campaigning. No one's campaigning on Good Friday, are they?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we saw it this last time as well. We
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  Speaker 2: saw the campaign in twenty twenty two fall over Easter
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  Speaker 2: and Anzac Day. I must say when you go on
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  Speaker 2: the campaign trail and Good Friday, there's basically only one
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  Speaker 2: event that it's tools down. There might be a visit
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  Speaker 2: to the Easter Show that happened under Scott Morrison, but
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  Speaker 2: even I would doubt maybe that will happen this time
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  Speaker 2: around because of how tight the security has been. The
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  Speaker 2: bubble is incredibly tight traveling at the moment with the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister, I'm sure it's the same on the other side.
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  Speaker 2: The only counterpoint to that, Steve, is actually that this
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  Speaker 2: is not the Prime minister's first option of the election.
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  Speaker 2: He would have preferred for the election to be done
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  Speaker 2: and dusted before that Easter Anzac Day period. But obviously,
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  Speaker 2: as we know that cyclone that was heading towards Brisbane
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  Speaker 2: Alfred that changed everything. They didn't want to have the
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  Speaker 2: budget they then had to do it. So this is
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  Speaker 2: not his preferred timing, but as you say, might work
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  Speaker 2: in his favor as a lot of Ozzi's tune out
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  Speaker 2: not only politics but almost everything in that school holiday
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  Speaker 2: holiday period.
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  Speaker 1: You look over your left shoulder you'll be able to
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  Speaker 1: see where Peter Dutton wants to live. Truly, that's true.
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  Speaker 2: He does say you would like to live on the
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  Speaker 2: harbor potentially compared to living at the lodge. Now I
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  Speaker 2: might be biased. I'm actually from camber I'm a rare
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  Speaker 2: native there, so I won't hear it a bad word
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  Speaker 2: about Camberra. I know it cops a bad rap, but
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  Speaker 2: it's a pretty nice place to live.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had a daughter who went to a and you.
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  Speaker 1: I went there a lot of time. I agree with you. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you were at the Daily Telegraph event but you had
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  Speaker 1: to leave because the Prime Minister decided to walk out
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  Speaker 1: before Peter Dutton spoke. I guess there's no surprise about that,
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  Speaker 1: but I reckon. Peter Dutton today rolled out a pretty
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  Speaker 1: impressive package of road and rail funding. How important is
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  Speaker 1: Western Sydney going to be during this election?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly one of those key battlegrounds and the
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  Speaker 2: reason why you can tell it's play so much this
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  Speaker 2: time around. Look where the two leaders debates are going
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  Speaker 2: to be in this campaign. The Sky Newes People's Forum
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  Speaker 2: the most important debate. But I might be biased on that.
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  Speaker 2: That's happening next Tuesday in Western City. The second debate
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  Speaker 2: happening on another network that's also happening in Western City.
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  Speaker 2: The last few elections, it's been a contest that they
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  Speaker 2: have done for the television cameras in Brisbane, so that
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  Speaker 2: shows you there's a bit at play there. I'd also
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  Speaker 2: point out the bigger than the roads funding. I thought
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  Speaker 2: interesting to see Peter Dutton say his gas plan Steve
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  Speaker 2: will mean a fifteen percent reduction in gas prices. So
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  Speaker 2: we're waiting to see the modeling on that, but I
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  Speaker 2: think that's going to capture a lot of attention today From.
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  Speaker 1: Your position letter, I know it's a mystery as to
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  Speaker 1: we you go, but I mean I found it interesting
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  Speaker 1: that the Prime Minister is probably not going to spend
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  Speaker 1: a lot of time in Victoria, and certainly the time
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  Speaker 1: he does spend in Victoria, one person who is not
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  Speaker 1: going to be on his left shoulder is going to
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  Speaker 1: be the Premier to Cinder Allen. I mean, the labor
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  Speaker 1: brand treaty down here, as you know, is completely toxic.
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  Speaker 1: I just wonder how what imagine the PM is going
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  Speaker 1: to have other senior Victorian labor ministers doing the campaigning
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  Speaker 1: in that state.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see that reasoning?
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  Speaker 1: It was State.
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  Speaker 2: Parliament was on the other day, just the same timing, coincidentally,
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  Speaker 2: when Anthony Alberanezi was there and just intre all and
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  Speaker 2: apparently couldn't make it to the press conference. As Peter Kredler,
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  Speaker 2: our colleague pointed out the other night, though State Parliament
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  Speaker 2: Victoria's in recess now for the rest of this campaign,
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  Speaker 2: so anytime he heads back to the great State of Victoria,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have that excuse anymore as to why the
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  Speaker 2: premier is not there. But look, it's brutal politics. It's
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  Speaker 2: about popularity. If the state premier is not popular, you
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  Speaker 2: don't bring it to your federal campaign. I know it's
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  Speaker 2: a bit brutal, but that's the truth.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the PM's going to watch the rabbit Os tonight apparently,
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  Speaker 1: so you get the night off, Trudy. Thanks, you're doing
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  Speaker 1: great job on the campaign. Before talking to you next week,
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  Speaker 1: truly working flat out on the PM's bus. Let's go down.
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  Speaker 1: So that global fallout from Donald Trump's latest round of tariffs,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that was a remarkable day in world history yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: We've got global markets obvious now thrown into turmoil, Australian
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  Speaker 1: market had a rough time again. Today, US markets suffered
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  Speaker 1: their steepest decline since twenty twenty, which of course was
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  Speaker 1: the lead into COVID. Australian products have been hit with
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  Speaker 1: a ten percent tariff and the government are saying, well,
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  Speaker 1: we're hoping to use critical minerals apparently as a leverage
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  Speaker 1: to have those tariffs removed. You have to say Australia's
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  Speaker 1: got out of this reasonably well. Donald Trump has not
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  Speaker 1: ruled out making some deals. Have a look, you open
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  Speaker 1: to deals.
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  Speaker 2: Some of these countries if they're calling you, Well.
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  Speaker 3: It depends if somebody said that we're going to give
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  Speaker 3: you something that's so phenomenal, as long as they're giving
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  Speaker 3: us something that's good. And the tariffs give us great
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  Speaker 3: power to negotiate, always have. I've used it very well
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  Speaker 3: in the first administration, as you said, But now we're
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  Speaker 3: taking into a whole new level because it's a worldwide situation.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Donald Trump's been obsessed with tariffs forever. Joining me
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  Speaker 1: now Chief Economist and senior fellow the IPA, Adam Crichton. Adam,
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  Speaker 1: great to see you. What you read on the global
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  Speaker 1: ramifications of this tariff walk is it too early to tell.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I think it probably is too early to tell.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, tariffs are not great. They're another form of taxation,
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  Speaker 4: and the US has dramatically increased the level of taxation
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  Speaker 4: on imports.
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  Speaker 1: That's not terrific.
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  Speaker 4: But the stock market declines that you alluded to earlier
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  Speaker 4: are not that great really. I mean, I think the
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  Speaker 4: Australian market fell by one point five percent today, which
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  Speaker 4: is not huge. The US market three four percent or
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  Speaker 4: something like that. So I think there is some exaggeration
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  Speaker 4: in the political and media class about the damage of
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  Speaker 4: these tariffs. And you have to look at the US
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  Speaker 4: fiscal situation. I mean, this is a country that's spending
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  Speaker 4: seven trillion dollars a year the government at least, and
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  Speaker 4: only raising five trillion dollars in taxes. So these tariffs
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  Speaker 4: will raise about six hundred and seven hundred billion dollars
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  Speaker 4: a year for the US treasury. That that goes some
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  Speaker 4: way to that gap. And you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 4: they're not ideal, but if the US government's not going
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  Speaker 4: to cut spending, they have to raise tax revenue in
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  Speaker 4: some way, and this is the only way the US
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  Speaker 4: president can do it. Congress is not going to pass
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  Speaker 4: an income tax in Greece. They're not going to pass
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  Speaker 4: a consumption tax. This is a quasi consumption tax, if
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  Speaker 4: you like, for the American people. And just as I
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  Speaker 4: said in my column today, I mean, this is a
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  Speaker 4: tax on the American people. It's really none of our business.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the world is furious and hysterical about these tariffs,
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  Speaker 4: but this is a tax on Americans, not on us.
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  Speaker 4: No Australian is going to pay a cent of tax
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  Speaker 4: to the US Treasury as a result of these and
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  Speaker 4: the mere fact that they're on all countries, and indeed
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  Speaker 4: Australia did the best out of it. I mean, we
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  Speaker 4: have a ten percent tariff I believe on our on
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  Speaker 4: our exports to the US. That's the that's the equal
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  Speaker 4: lowest of any country in the world. So so as
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  Speaker 4: I said today, I think we should be sending a
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  Speaker 4: thank you note to the US, not all this nonsense
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  Speaker 4: about you know, not the act of a friend and
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  Speaker 4: so forth. And by the way, this not friend is
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  Speaker 4: completely undermining our security.
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  Speaker 1: You spent a lot of time with the Australian in Washington.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think the reaction in America will be?
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  Speaker 1: As you said, you know, we talk about beef, and
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've found out more about beef this week
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  Speaker 1: than I ever knew i'd find out in my life.
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  Speaker 1: We apparently produce lean beef which goes to the US
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  Speaker 1: three billion dollars worth every year and it gets minced
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  Speaker 1: up into burgers that go into burger chains over there. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Americans are not going to be particularly happy about having
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  Speaker 1: to pay more for a hamburger, are they.
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  Speaker 4: No, this is a big gamble for Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, most economists understandably and I think quite rightly
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  Speaker 4: say that this will lead to inflation in the United States.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's going to be price increases in the US,
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  Speaker 4: that's a certainty. And how he explains that away, I
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  Speaker 4: think is going to be a huge challenge for Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 4: He's the champion of the working class in the United States,
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  Speaker 4: but he is going to put up their prices, and
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  Speaker 4: no question. I mean, what is interesting is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he talks all the time about lower income tax and
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  Speaker 4: he sees this and it may not happen, but he
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  Speaker 4: sees this as a swap from income tax to tariffs.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I think you know personally that there's
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  Speaker 4: some merit to that, but he can't cut income taxes
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  Speaker 4: without the agreement of the Congress, and I don't think
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  Speaker 4: he's going to get that. So what I think you're
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  Speaker 4: getting here is just a flat out tax increase, and
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  Speaker 4: no one wants a tax increase. I think tax increases
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  Speaker 4: are bad. But as I just said earlier, if the
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  Speaker 4: US government is not willing to cut spending by a
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  Speaker 4: huge amount, then it has no choice but to lift
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  Speaker 4: taxes in some way. And this is the only way
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  Speaker 4: the US president can lift them.
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  Speaker 1: Adam, I mean Donald Trump described it today as you know,
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  Speaker 1: you have an operation that takes you some time in recovery.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this yesterday watching him do this,
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  Speaker 1: and I was thinking, it's almost like you've got an
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  Speaker 1: older house and you decide to do a massive renovation,
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  Speaker 1: and you have to live through the renovation, but at
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  Speaker 1: the end of it, you've got a better house. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what he's going to do, and if what he tells
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  Speaker 1: us is right, is that manufacturing is going to explode
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  Speaker 1: in the United States. A huge amount of money is
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  Speaker 1: going to be spent by all of these companies that
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  Speaker 1: have been making stuff offshore. And he's convincing him to
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  Speaker 1: come and make it on shore.
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  Speaker 4: Well, maybe they will bring production back to the US.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I'm somewhat skeptical about that. I mean, the
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  Speaker 4: reality is US wages, which is such a huge component,
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  Speaker 4: of course, of manufacturing costs. That's why these companies moved
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  Speaker 4: off Shaw in the first place. They are still so
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  Speaker 4: much higher than third world and second world countries that
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  Speaker 4: I don't think these tariffs will make enough difference to
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  Speaker 4: bring them back. And not only that, but the differential
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  Speaker 4: of costs between the US and other countries is so great.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm skeptical. And also, of course, they may
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  Speaker 4: not be permanent. I mean, if you're a large if
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  Speaker 4: you're a large American company and you're assessing the future here,
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  Speaker 4: you're going to be thinking these tariffs permanent or are
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  Speaker 4: they not? And it may well be the case that
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  Speaker 4: the next administration in the US reverses them. If you
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  Speaker 4: have that belief, you would just grin and bear it
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  Speaker 4: and wait. Right So, I think there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: uncertainty right now with these tariffs, But like I said,
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  Speaker 4: you've got to see them as a revenue raising mechanism.
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  Speaker 1: Adam, great to catch up with you, Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: That's Adam Crichton. Then now let's get back to the
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  Speaker 1: local campaign. Let's bring in Liberal MP for the seat
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  Speaker 1: of Flinders, which I should point out is my seat
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  Speaker 1: and she is my local member. Zoey Mackenzie joined us.
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  Speaker 1: Great to see you again.
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  Speaker 5: Hello, dear constituent. How are you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm okay, thank you. The letterbox is stuffed full of
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  Speaker 1: electioneering brochures, yours and some others. We'll get to that
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  Speaker 1: in a moment. Lots of your signs up around the electorate.
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  Speaker 1: Any of those, Zoe being damaged, any being stolen.
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  Speaker 6: Look the occasional one has disappeared overnight strangely, and or
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  Speaker 6: do our best to replace them as quickly as possible.
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  Speaker 6: A little bit of vandalism here and there, not as
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  Speaker 6: much as last time. We had a fairly significant extinction
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  Speaker 6: rebellion on Stalt last time and quite a lot got damaged.
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  Speaker 6: But it doesn't appear to be quite as bad this time,
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  Speaker 6: so I'm grateful for that.
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  Speaker 1: You haven't had Manique Ryan's husband down there, ripping posters
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  Speaker 1: down and running off down the street and pretending you
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  Speaker 1: didn't know anything about what I'm seeing.
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  Speaker 6: We've had a few look look some of the others
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  Speaker 6: have been putting them up where they shouldn't and a
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  Speaker 6: bit illegally and on VIC road signs and powerpoles things
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  Speaker 6: they shouldn't be doing.
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  Speaker 5: But that's okay.
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  Speaker 6: Eventually they'll get cleaned up, you know, the compliance system
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  Speaker 6: catches up with them eventually.
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  Speaker 5: But no, nothing like mister Ryan. I'm afraid.
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  Speaker 1: It's all pretty nasty. Men. You've got a liberal campaign
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  Speaker 1: truck apparently allegedly smeared with feces. Now, warning to viewers,
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  Speaker 1: this is pretty disgusting. That's the sort of thing that
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  Speaker 1: you know, you just shake, go ahead and wonder why
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  Speaker 1: anyone would want to do something like that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's a vision of it on the screen. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: people really need to get a grip, don't they.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that is terribly disappointing.
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  Speaker 6: Look, it's a vibrant democracy we live in and I
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  Speaker 6: actually love the kind of debate we have.
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  Speaker 5: And I've been going around school. I go around school
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  Speaker 5: all the time.
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  Speaker 6: You'd probably be seeing it on my Facebook and talk
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  Speaker 6: to kids about the democracy we have and how proud
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  Speaker 6: we are of the institutions of the nation and how
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  Speaker 6: they need to be protected.
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  Speaker 5: So that's a terrible sign up.
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  Speaker 6: I hadn't seen that today, so I'm sorry if I
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  Speaker 6: look quite shocked when you put that up on the screen.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into some issues. I mean you, one of
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  Speaker 1: the broches I've got shoved from a letterboxes from an
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: independent guy called Ben Smith up against you, says he's
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  Speaker 1: small business owner. Now, if you go online, I note
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  Speaker 1: that mister Smith has brought up the top spot on Google,
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  Speaker 1: and I do note also that he is being funded
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  Speaker 1: by Climate two hundred. Is that right leg?
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  Speaker 6: Indeed, look, I think he uses that descriptor small business
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  Speaker 6: owner lightly. He has worked in social welfare sector down
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  Speaker 6: here in Mornington for the last two years and indeed
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  Speaker 6: with his church for the past two decades. In terms
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  Speaker 6: of campaign spend, to be fair, it looks like it'd
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  Speaker 6: been in line with what the last tier campaigns were,
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  Speaker 6: so somewhere between a mill and one and a half.
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  Speaker 5: He is the.
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  Speaker 6: Highest spender though on Facebook and Instagram, spending about two
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  Speaker 6: hundred and twenty thousand dollars last time somebody looked that up,
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: which is basically a deposit on a home on the
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: Mornington Peninsula, but definitely a huge amount of money and
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: nothing like anything we've.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: Seen here before.
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: But as I said, a vibrant democracy and everyone's entitled
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: to a campaign as they see fit.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the fuel excise. As someone who commutes
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: regularly from the morning to Peninsula to Melbourne back, I
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: know what the cost I can afford it, but I
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: know what the cost of fuel. Does the fuel excise
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: cut That is huge for your electric I mean, aside
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: from people like myself, you've got a lot of traders
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: who live in your electric. They do huge amounts of
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: kilometers a week, every every at seven o'clock every morning,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I see after you and after ute traveling on the
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: local roads. That's a massive plus. Are you getting around
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: the electric and having people say to you, thank God,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: someone's looking after us.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: With the cost of fuel, you have absolutely nailed it.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: It is hugely popular down here.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: Our roads are full of ranges, hiluxes and amorarocks and
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: it's about twenty bucks per fell up in one of
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: those cars, so it makes an enormous difference. I had
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: a group of community leaders, about sixty of them today
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: in a room and they're all volunteers doing amazing work
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: for men, shared to women, shelters and everything in between.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: And I think they constantly ask for help with actually
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: is fuel costs. It's really a hindrance on what they're
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: able to do in an area where eighty three percent
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: about a lamb mass on the peninsula here doesn't have
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: any access to public transport, so cars and utes and
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: trucks really are the way we get around. So it's
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: been wonderfully well received. It makes a real difference. Sixty
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: percent of households down here have two or more cars,
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: so for the average household, that's fifteen hundred dollars worth
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: of saving every year. It makes an enormous difference, and
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: it will be from the first sitting day of Parliament
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: under a Dune government.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a very sensible policy. I mean,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you've done a lot of door knocking. I know, you've
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: covered a lot of territory when you're knock on those doors.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: How much feedback you're getting about how much the labor
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: brand is on the nose in Victoria, I mean, we
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: live through it. We've got a crime crisis, youth crime
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: crisis that spread its way down into your seat, got
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: crippling property taxes that's also impacted on a lot of
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: people who live in the area that you are the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: member for. And on top of that you can add
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: things like potholed roads. How much anger is there when
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: you knock on someone's door about labor.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: I'm about and about on our streets all day every day,
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: So in each little township bowl, I'll be walking around
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: talking to people every day. And you do hear real
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: palpable anger with both the Albanesi and the Allen government,
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: whether that's red tape green, a complete failure to understand
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: the demands of small business, an industrial relation system that
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: is unnavigable for.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Them these days.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: And then tax upon tax upon tax. I had a
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: property and construction and property sector around table a couple
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: of weeks ago, and people to say, there's just no
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: incentive to build here, no incentive to meet the needs
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: for housing locally, and particularly in relation to affordable housing,
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: because the land tax is just suffocating people down here.
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: And on top of that, you've got suggestions, including from
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: some of the candidates down here, that we should abolish
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: negative fearing and capital gains tax discounts for housing stock.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: That just sends panic into the system. So we're not
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: building as we need to. And you're right where the
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: second highest incidence of tradees are in the country. It's
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: a really important industry for us. They need certainty, they
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: need things like the instant asset right off that we've
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: committed to make it thirty thousand dollars level and permanent,
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: not like this government that's just scrapping at the edges
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: on that particular topic. Those sorts of announcements, together with
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: the X size and fuel make an enormous difference down here.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I thought that was just crazy of
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: labor not to go the full thirty and make it
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: permanent like the coalition's going to. You've got the full list.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Of Yeah, they don't. They've never run a small business.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: They've never run business.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: It's filled with people who've been public servants and or
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: union officials. So the workings that inside, the sacrifices made
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: by small business owners are completely completely an anathema to
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: the labor body, I'm afraid, and you can see and
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: feel that down here every day.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Just finally, you've got the full list against you. You've got
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a Greens candidate, a Labor candidate, a One Nation candidate,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: a Trumpets whatever they are candidate, and the Independent. How
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: close is this contest?
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: Going to be Look, it's a Biben democracy and I
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: really I welcome actually the full slate of candidates. I
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: think it's good that we flesh out the issues. It's
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: one of those electrics in the United because here people
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: read the newspaper, they listen to the radio, they watch
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: the news at night.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: They're really informed.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: It's a real difference I think from three years ago.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: People are coming to me and telling me exactly, you know,
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: what they think, where they think the economy is going,
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: and they're desperate to get the country back on track.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: Whether that's from the construction industry to the community leaders
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: that I was with today, all of them are desperate
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: for change. So it's almost a uniform view that this
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: government has done a terrible job both in relation to
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: security and prosperity, and they want to see somebody step
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: up and get the country back on track.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Good to catch up with you, Zoe. Thanks a lot,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: good luck during the campaign. We've got four weeks to go.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a long four weeks. Zoey Mackenzie.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: There now after the break, a former detective is going
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: to weigh in on this. Tony Mockbell released and amazing
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: pictures out of the Court precinct in Melbourne have US
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: serious security questions. Now, this is almost unbelievable. A major
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: breach at last night's AFL game. Eighty thousand people there
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and two blokes have now been charged allegedly were found
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: carrying loaded weapons on them inside the mcg all up. Next,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: welcome back to Steve Price with you on a Friday
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: night Now. Drug kingpin and Underworld figure Tony Mockbell has
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: been granted bail today after nearly eighteen years he's been
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: behind bars in prison, a jail term that saw him
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: at one point bashed and put into isolation. Crazy scenes
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: today on sky As around three hours ago he was
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: driven away in a black Mercedes, had helicopters following him
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: down the street. Conditions to bail include wearing a GPS
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: ankle monitoring device and reporting to Heidelberg police every day. Now.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: A massive surety has been paid by one of his sisters.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's around eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Well.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: The last time Mockbell was out on Bailey's other sister
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: posted a million dollars bond and Mockbell then fled Australia
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: by yacht and was famously arrested wearing a very bad
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: wig in Greece. His bail this time comes as Mockbell
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: fights to have his drug trafficking convictions overturned due to
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: the infamous lawyer X scandal. Joining me now former Victorian
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: homicide Squad detective Charlie Bzina. Great to see you again.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Amazing scenes. That armored vehicle that the police used, Why
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: would they need that?
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: Well, clearly is a high risk in relation to if
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: someone wanted to release him or get him escaped, that
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: type of thing and I'll kill him and that for
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: his own protection. So they took it to the very end,
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: which is unusual normally come in a prison van, but
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: I think given the caliber the profile that Tony has,
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: they just spared no cost.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: You ever interview him or I spoke to.
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: Him a couple of times in relation to a double
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: murder I was investigating, not that he was involved, but
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: it was interesting. I went to and his apartment just
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: not far from here at the South Bank, and a
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: very amicable person to speak to will help us out,
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: but only told us what he wanted to tell us.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: So it gets bail years before eligible for parole. This
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: is in advance of the lawyer X case. Nicola Gobbo.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, tell us about mock Bill first, how big
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: was he in the drug distribution networks during the let's
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: call it the underbelly days?
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: He was the most formidable drug trafficker any time. He
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: had accumulated a multi multi million dollar property portfolio.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: His assets were.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: Absolutely phenomenal into the millions, and you clever enough, he
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: certainly would be a big backer of horses et cetera,
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: et cetera, and in the casino. But given the fact
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: that he was able to accumulate all his millions, says
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: that you know, we're not going in hard enough against
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: these major drug trafficks.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: He was involved Carl Williams at the time, off and
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: on between the two dead very much so.
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: They are opposite, one in the same camp and opposite,
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: but they went their separate ways. But amazing two little
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: fat guys, one a supermarket shelf stacker and the other
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: one was making pizzas. And look where they ended up.
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: But I think things will change dramatically now.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Mock Bell got away last time, got on a yacht,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: smuggled out of the country, ended up in Greece. Very
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: strict bail conditions this time. He's not likely to go
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: on the run again, I don't believe.
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: So he's got the quite brain injury now from the
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: assault of bar and jail.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: He's a lot older.
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: I think there are a couple of Islanders, but I
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: don't think it was affiliated with the person that he was.
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: The fact he was flexing his muscles in jail and
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: he's gained different gangs in the jail systems, a bit
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: of pushing, a bit of argie barji and that's all
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: that was involved in.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So that's what.
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: Happens quite normally in our jail system.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Lawyer X is a legal mindfield. We won't go too
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: far into it. But how much of a stain was
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: or is that on the Victoria Police force?
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: Crushing, absolutely crushing the fact that senior police command at
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: the time took it upon themselves and I was a
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: victim of that also because they were doing things behind
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: my back when with a double murder I was investigating.
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: And it really goes to the heart of it. And
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: it's not over yet.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I heard a lawyer speaking today and said that nowhere
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: in the legal system like we have in the world
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: as that happened.
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: No, absolutely not, and it's there for a reason. It's
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: there to protect the innocent and give the guilty at
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: least or any person that protection that we all look
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: for when we find ourselves.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: In bitter strife.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: Now, we can't erode that level of our justice system
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: that is so sacricinct and we can't have that now.
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: That's put a major blight on our legal system, and
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: even from lawyers, the fact is that that is sacrosanct
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: and should never be attached to it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: He is to me the government to like it, just
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: to all go away, but I won't go away.
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: Unfortunately, we don't know where we're going to stay because
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: the recent review by Justice Fullerton from New South Wales,
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: a six hundred page report that will play a major
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: role in the Supreme Court that's coming up looking at
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: Mockbell's current charges and she was absolutely critical, critical of
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: the DPP at the time, critical of police command and
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: whether there's any criminal charges were put up by our
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: special prosecutor at the time, but the DPP of kid
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: there wouldn't prosecute anyone.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Let's move on to this incident from the MCG last night,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: eighty plus thousand people there Carlton Collingwood fierce rivals. I've
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: been to the G since they introduced these new security
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: devices which like an airport, we walked through an airport machine.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: They are now around the MCG. I only drove off
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the road this morning when I heard that two blokes
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and they've now gone through the court and they were
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: still in custody in the face court later were alleged
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to have been inside the MCG with loaded pistols. That happened.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: That's so significant, And the little media reports we are
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: getting is that the MCG authorities and the afl A
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: is saying that the actual security system picked it up,
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: but that wasn't followed through by a search. Now that
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: goes to I suppose quality of standards, quality assurance by
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: supervisors there. The fact is they didn't do it. I
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: know it's a boring job. You've got to take their
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: phones off them, but once you alert guys on't they
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: have got the lives of one hundred thousand plus people
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: at their disposals look after. No, I don't want my
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: family gain to the football or anyone else's and not
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: coming home.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: But they should be doing it like they do at
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the airport. I mean, I've currently got an arm in
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: a sling. When I'm not here on air and I've
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: traveled this week, they won't let you just walk through it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: They'll patch you down. They'll say, why have you got
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: that sling on? Very much? You've got something on you. Now,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: obviously that no one wants people getting on a plane
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: with a weapon, but it's just as dangerous inside the MCG.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: What if a fight had broken out, very much I
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: had one of those blokes with a loaded gun. These
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: were not fake guns. They had ammunition. Correct get into
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: a fight and unleash a shot. Innocent kid in the
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: crowd be shot.
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: Well, we haven't heard why they had their firearms on
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: them in regards of that, So that's exactly right. And
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: allegedly some had warrants on them. Why don't they have
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: with the Monday that the AFL make and the MCG,
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: why don't they have the facial recognition straight on there
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: everything that can be used. Now, we've already had an incident.
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: A gentleman was released not that long ago who was
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: threatening as a terrorist to blow up the MCG. It
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: is a significant issue that we've got to look after
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: our people and the MCG authority charged with his safety
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: of every living person going to that court that.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: As you say, they've got the money, and overseas there
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: are stadiums where they have I think the London Olympic
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Stadium was fitted with facial recognition.
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, very much SOA And I heard a lady on
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: the media this morning saying that she went to the
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: game last night and two guards were just talking. So
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: there is no quality assurance by the senior people running
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: a security company here. Sure it's a private company and
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: we are getting in the trade. They're called shirt fillers
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: and it is a boring job, but they've got to
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: be pushed and looked at all the time of get
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: what you pay for, because the what's at risk is
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: the lives of those people going to watch the game.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Charlie always great to catch up with you, thinking, thank you,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Charlie Bazina there after the break. How will Donald Trump's
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: tariffs impact the Queensland beef industry? Who better to talk
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: to than Campbell human plus the col slams Climate two
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: hundred over what I think is a disgraceful new ad.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to step Price with you Rown Dene coming
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: up at the top of the hour. There's been some
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: developments by the way around the Port of Darwin. I
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: have some details on that for you. In a moment,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the Prime Minister apparently about to make a statement on that,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, he singled out, of course, Australian beef, the
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Australian beef industry. Yes, they even mentioned it in his
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: address in the Rose Garden lotus around the tariffs. They've
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: exploded around the world. Here's how the President announced what
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: he was going to do. Well.
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: Australia bands and they're wonderful people and wonderful everything, but
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: they ban American beef. Yet we imported three billion dollars
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: of Australian beef from them just last year alone. They
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: won't take any of our beef. They don't want it
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: because they don't want it to affect their farmers. And
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: you know, I don't blame them, but we're doing the
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: same thing.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Clearly, President Trump doesn't know anything about biosecurity. No one
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: briefed him on that. Now. Queensland, as we know, is
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the largest beef processing jurisdiction anywhere in Australia. Experts today
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: sounding optimistic that the US simply cannot do without Queensland's beef. However,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: it remains to be seen what the actual full IMPACT's
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: going to be. Joining me now, former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: who would have been to plenty of beef stations in
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: his time, what do you make of this? I mean
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: it's only ten percent. We seem to have perhaps dodged
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: a bullet, haven't we.
• 31:33
  Speaker 9: Look, I think everyone needs to take a bit of
• 31:35
  Speaker 9: a chill pel about the impact of some of these things,
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: because there's been hysteria and Australia in terms of the
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: global sort of Trump agenda has actually got in a
• 31:46
  Speaker 9: relative sense, very concessional terms. So just to be firstly,
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: we need to just correct what the President said because
• 31:54
  Speaker 9: that's not strictly true, and we could come back to that.
• 31:57
  Speaker 9: But what are the industries saying. Well, I spoke prior
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: to coming on the show with one of the leaders
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: nationally and in Queensland and the beef industry, and any
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: sort of confirming what I'd been hearing, and that is
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: this that the Americans have a problem in the after
• 32:13
  Speaker 9: two or three years of drought. They're herd has reached
• 32:17
  Speaker 9: the lowest levels in seventy years. They need lean Australian
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: beef as part of the process to create hamburgers for McDonald's, etc.
• 32:28
  Speaker 10: And they do need that product.
• 32:29
  Speaker 9: There's a demand for that, and our tariff ten percent
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: is either the same as others who are competing against us,
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: or lie they might be hit with a higher tariff
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: some of those other potential exporters into the United States.
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: So the effect at this stage in the short term
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: two to three years is probably going to be that
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: Australians do as they always have. In fact, this figure
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: says that we might even get a little bit more
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: money in terms of the dynamics of the market. This
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: is where the laws of supply and demand are powerful.
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: They need the Americans that they need our product, they
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: will need to buy it, and they'll need to cop
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: the increased costs of the tariff.
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  Speaker 10: Now.
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: The thing is though, that as those herds rebuild over
• 33:14
  Speaker 9: the next two to four years, the dynamic may change.
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: But let's be very clear about what I was saying before.
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: The President seems to be misinformed. We will take Australian
• 33:25
  Speaker 9: beef here, but what I'm being told is that the
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: bio security issue is this.
• 33:35
  Speaker 10: That head of cattle is.
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: Born in the United States, raised in the United States,
• 33:41
  Speaker 9: fattened in the United States and exported from the United States,
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: then we'll take them.
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: And that's been the case since about twenty nineteen.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: But what the.
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: Americans want to do is be able to bring in
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: cattle from say, down from Canada, up from say Mexico,
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: where we're not sure of the bio security processes, and
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: regulate all that procedural stuff, and so those cattle wouldn't
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: be allowed in all that beef wouldn't be allowed into
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: that process. Beef wouldn't be allowed into Australia. There's the difference.
• 34:11
  Speaker 9: So the short answer is we will take American beef,
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: but it's got to be to those biosecurity standards, which
• 34:18
  Speaker 9: are the same ones that they apply to us. So anyway,
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: hopefully it's not going to be a big impact, certainly
• 34:26
  Speaker 9: in the next two to three years.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine you and I going into a butcher
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: shop and buying American beef. I mean, why would anyone
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: in Australia given the quality of what we grow. I mean,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I guess it could be price sensitive. I mean, if
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: it was cheaper, you might, but I can't imagine wanting
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: to buy American beef over Australian beef.
• 34:48
  Speaker 9: I could neither sieve, but I mean they're welcome to try.
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: As the point, because I think we really need to
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: reinforce with the Americans. But given the problem I've just outlined,
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: they need what they're using for domestic consumption. That's that's
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: the crazy thing about this. So look, you know, when
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: you're at the top of the tree, often the stuff
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: that fills through to you isn't correct, or there's problems
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: with or simplifications that don't stand scrutiny. And maybe that's
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: what's happened here. But it's reassuring that the industry themselves
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: at this stage not in a panic about it. They
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: think they can deal with it.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: What you read on the election campaign week ones over
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: PMS been in Queensland. Peter Dutton is a Queenslander, has
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: been there as well. How do you rate the two
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: of them so far? Well?
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: I sort of feel, you know, concerned for Peter Dutton,
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: not because he's performing badly in any way, shape or form,
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: but just simply with all this international distraction going on,
• 35:56
  Speaker 9: it's hard for him to get a message out. I think,
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: you know, the Labor Party are having a red hot
• 36:02
  Speaker 9: go at trying to sort of time to Donald Trump,
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: which I think is pretty.
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: Spurious, but that's what they're doing.
• 36:09
  Speaker 9: But I think the biggest problem that I would see
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: is that I just wish that the Liberal and National
• 36:15
  Speaker 9: Parties had articulated a vision and a plan before they
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: went to Christmas twenty twenty four, because now they're running
• 36:24
  Speaker 9: out of time to show Australians how this all pulls together.
• 36:28
  Speaker 9: And my sense of it was Australia Day around Australia
• 36:32
  Speaker 9: this year.
• 36:32
  Speaker 10: I really thought the Coalition were in for a check
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: in with a chance.
• 36:36
  Speaker 9: I hope they still are, but I just had this
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: sense of sliding backwards a bit because they can't get
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: or've been unable to get clear air to get some
• 36:44
  Speaker 9: of the important messages out. I mean that in a
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: constructive way, Steve. I don't want a Green's Labor Party alliance.
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: I want I want to see the.
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: Teals gone, or number of them gone.
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: And I want to see clear direction for Australia with
• 36:59
  Speaker 9: a Conservative government led by a fundamentally fantastic bike, a
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: decent bike who I think.
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: Would do a very good job as Prime minister.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I agree with you on the timing completely, CAMPBELLI was
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: good to pick your brain. I'll talk to you next Friday,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Campbell Newman. There now, as I mentioned, the Australian newspaper
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: is reporting that the Prime Minister at the Albaniz he's
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: planning to quote directly intervene to remove the Port of
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Darwin from Chinese ownership. He's reportedly working to find an
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Australian buyer. That's a major development, Campbell Newman, thank you
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: very much for that. Coming up next after the break,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: do campaign gafs actually have an impact on the result
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: of the election? Plus Climbate two hundred. Well, they're under
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: fire over what I think is a pretty grubby ad
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: featuring children. Welcome back Steve Price with this speaking about elections,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: don't forget a course the debate between the leaders on
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Sky next Tuesday, seven point thirty Eastern Standard time, daylight saving.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Don't forget that this weekend either. Let's bring in our panel.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: It's always the best time of Friday. Small Business Women
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Australas CEO Amanda Rose and Sky News contributor and the
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: man who works hardist at the Daily Telegraph, Joe Hilda
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Brand glat to see you both now. It wouldn't be
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: an election campaign without the gaff reel, and the Prime
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Minister has granted us the first well literal slip up yesterday,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Anthony Albanezi almost He says he didn't fall, but it
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: looks like to me he fell off the back of
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the stage. Let's have a little squizz.
• 38:34
  Speaker 11: Photos with everyone, Okay.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: If that's not a fall, I don't know what it is. Now.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: We've had plenty of these through the years. I love these,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: and I know Hilda Brand loves them. Mark Latham's notorious
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: handshake outside a radio studio in Sydney, monstering John I reckon.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: That cost Lathan the election, thank god. And then we
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: had Scott Morrison almost murdering a small child playing soccer
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: at the last election down in Tasmania. Joe. These incidents
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: can be mundane, but they can also influence the election.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: All the headline writers that you and I love, they
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: love them. The cartoonists have a field day. We're sure
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: to get at least one more.
• 39:24
  Speaker 12: Yeah, hopefully we get plenty of the beauty of Albo's
• 39:27
  Speaker 12: fur was the most interesting thing to happen in the
• 39:29
  Speaker 12: first week of the campaign. It had been so kind
• 39:31
  Speaker 12: of now that it's over. I can say that it
• 39:33
  Speaker 12: actually was pretty dull until Albo did that, and everyone
• 39:37
  Speaker 12: just fell on that story because it was the only
• 39:39
  Speaker 12: bit of color and movement, like literal movement that had
• 39:42
  Speaker 12: really happened during the campaign.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: And I reckon, I reckon.
• 39:45
  Speaker 12: He technically might be right because I've studied the angles,
• 39:48
  Speaker 12: I've studied the stills he stopped it, don't think. I
• 39:52
  Speaker 12: don't think the Prime ministerial dairy air touched the ground.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: So I'm calling it a skip him a clip.
• 40:02
  Speaker 13: Look, you're going to hate this, Steve, but I feel
• 40:06
  Speaker 13: for alban Easy with that slip and any human that's
• 40:09
  Speaker 13: in that position because it's dangerous and he could have
• 40:12
  Speaker 13: really hurt himself. And look, and I don't like people
• 40:14
  Speaker 13: that mock people that fall over or things that happen
• 40:17
  Speaker 13: by accident, things, you know, things that out of control.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: No no, no, you're not.
• 40:21
  Speaker 13: But I'm just saying other people have right, but things
• 40:25
  Speaker 13: where they go out of their way to try so
• 40:27
  Speaker 13: we Scott Morrison or with the handshake, that's when people
• 40:30
  Speaker 13: kind of try and go out of the way to
• 40:32
  Speaker 13: be something that they're not. And I think that's where
• 40:35
  Speaker 13: the issue is A lot of people during the election
• 40:37
  Speaker 13: campaign try and be something that they're not. They're trying
• 40:39
  Speaker 13: to engage in in communities they have no interest in,
• 40:42
  Speaker 13: or that try and be funny when they're not funny.
• 40:44
  Speaker 13: So they need to stick to who they actually are
• 40:47
  Speaker 13: and then adapt accordingly instead of trying to be things
• 40:49
  Speaker 13: that they're not.
• 40:50
  Speaker 12: I think the incredible thing is that the.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Babies do.
• 40:56
  Speaker 12: I like them do that deliberately he was He thought,
• 40:58
  Speaker 12: this is my chance to really show how it whose
• 41:00
  Speaker 12: boss and intimidate him, and of course the exact opposite happening,
• 41:04
  Speaker 12: And I think it speaks volumes about Latham's character, but
• 41:07
  Speaker 12: also about Howard savvy because Howard I think Lada said
• 41:10
  Speaker 12: that as soon as that happened, he knew that he'd won,
• 41:13
  Speaker 12: because he knew how terrible it would look.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: That was at the media. That was the luckiest handsack
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: we've ever had in this country. I mean, nah, I
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: imagine if he hadn't done that and then got elected,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: where we'd be today. Man to Tony, Abbott thought it
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: was a good idea. He weren't decided during one campaign
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: he'd go and eat an onion, which I'm not sure
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: what that was all about. To be honest and Bill
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Shorten he was a beauty. He didn't know how to
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: do the most ossy thing in the world, and that's
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: eat a sausage sandwich outside bummings. I mean, goodness me,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Oh look.
• 41:45
  Speaker 13: I think Abbott needed I think that was like good
• 41:47
  Speaker 13: specsavers that. Actually I don't think he thought it was
• 41:49
  Speaker 13: an onion. But yet again, people they've become very awkward
• 41:55
  Speaker 13: when really just I know, some of them shouldn't be
• 41:58
  Speaker 13: themselves because who they are is probably not a nice person.
• 42:01
  Speaker 13: But in general, some people go out of their way
• 42:03
  Speaker 13: to try and you know, I'm cool, I'm one of
• 42:06
  Speaker 13: the guys, and I'm part of the working class and
• 42:08
  Speaker 13: things like that. When they're not, they're absolutely not. So
• 42:11
  Speaker 13: I think when they try to do ridiculous things, well
• 42:14
  Speaker 13: guess what, they look ridiculous.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: We need to go back to the good old days
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: of Bob Hook, don't we. Joe remember his classic JNG
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: election camp and some old bloke started yelling at him
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: and he said, nick off, your silly old bugger.
• 42:28
  Speaker 12: Oranger scullor yard glass, which is the next best thing
• 42:31
  Speaker 12: a man is absolutely right again, like the thing with
• 42:34
  Speaker 12: the Tony Abbott and the onion thing is that Abbot
• 42:36
  Speaker 12: just did it as it was the sort of thing
• 42:37
  Speaker 12: that he did all the time. He did it completely
• 42:40
  Speaker 12: without any kind of thought behind it at all.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: So that sort of went how.
• 42:44
  Speaker 12: Many onions is this guy actually eating? I don't think
• 42:47
  Speaker 12: it really hurt him, whereas with short and he clearly
• 42:50
  Speaker 12: was thinking about the optics of him eating that sausage sandwich,
• 42:55
  Speaker 12: that sausage on a roll. I don't know it was
• 42:56
  Speaker 12: a Foidian thing or if he didn't want to get
• 42:59
  Speaker 12: on from the shirt or gets sourced on the shirt exactly,
• 43:02
  Speaker 12: And so he overthought it. And again that ends up
• 43:05
  Speaker 12: and people go, well, actually, that's who's a much about
• 43:08
  Speaker 12: eating a sausage singer.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Let's get serious for a moment. This is a climate
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: two hundred ad being criticized by the Coalition and youth
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: psychologists for using children in a political ad which depicts
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: the quoting Peter Dutton and his MPs on climate and
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: energy policy. I don't know if you've seen it, have
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: a look.
• 43:30
  Speaker 11: Is preposterous to suggest the computer models can predict the
• 43:34
  Speaker 11: climate future.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I don't give a rassive its man made or not.
• 43:39
  Speaker 11: We should be drilling, baby drilling, I'll be the best
• 43:42
  Speaker 11: friend of mine and resource sector has ever heard?
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Amanda, am I overstating it? I don't think that's appropriate.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: No, I don't.
• 43:55
  Speaker 13: And you know, for a country that talks a lot
• 43:57
  Speaker 13: about consent and that people need to be able to
• 44:00
  Speaker 13: it'd be in a position to give consent for what
• 44:02
  Speaker 13: they do in life. These children haven't given consent for that.
• 44:04
  Speaker 13: They don't know what they're being involved in. And I
• 44:06
  Speaker 13: think the parents that actually put them forward for this,
• 44:10
  Speaker 13: they're profiting off this right, and I'm not comfortable with it.
• 44:13
  Speaker 13: I don't like it. If you want something to say
• 44:15
  Speaker 13: about the future and the children, then you say it.
• 44:18
  Speaker 13: You're the advocate for this, then you get your campaigners
• 44:21
  Speaker 13: and the people that are involved to talk on it.
• 44:23
  Speaker 13: But to have children do that, I think it's not
• 44:25
  Speaker 13: a fan at all.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Joe Climate two hundred argue it's the younger generation that
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: are going to be impacted by climate change. Seriously, what
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: do you make of it?
• 44:36
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think there's something really wrong with these guys.
• 44:38
  Speaker 12: And it's not the first time that their movement or
• 44:40
  Speaker 12: people associated with it have sort of crossed the line
• 44:43
  Speaker 12: and got really kind of personal in their politic. I mean,
• 44:47
  Speaker 12: because it is such a kind of wild eyed, sort
• 44:51
  Speaker 12: of held catastrophic doomsday cult. They seem to think that
• 44:55
  Speaker 12: nothing is sacred if you just think about it for
• 44:57
  Speaker 12: one second. I mean, already in this election campaign we've
• 45:00
  Speaker 12: seen core flutes defaced and vandalized, eyes scratched out and
• 45:05
  Speaker 12: blacked out. The minute you introduce children into that environment,
• 45:08
  Speaker 12: and the image of children the minute these ads run.
• 45:11
  Speaker 12: If there are stills of these ads, you can only
• 45:13
  Speaker 12: imagine what opponents of climate two hundred might be inclined
• 45:16
  Speaker 12: to do with them. Then you have the kids in
• 45:18
  Speaker 12: these ads who might have to, you know, look at
• 45:20
  Speaker 12: pictures of themselves that have been vandalized or defaced, or
• 45:24
  Speaker 12: they might grow up to have a completely opposing view
• 45:26
  Speaker 12: to what they've been used for and be humiliated by
• 45:30
  Speaker 12: the fact that it's so overtly partisan as well. It's
• 45:34
  Speaker 12: one thing to have kids saying I'm worried about the
• 45:36
  Speaker 12: future because you know, I heard that earth is going
• 45:39
  Speaker 12: to be too hot to live on.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: That's one thing. But to actually use them.
• 45:43
  Speaker 12: For overtly cynical, direct partisan attack ads on a particular party,
• 45:50
  Speaker 12: I do not think that that passes the sniff test
• 45:52
  Speaker 12: at all. And I think Climate two hundred is just
• 45:54
  Speaker 12: getting a bit desperate.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Both leaders in Sydney Western sind today it was an
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: event organized by your newspaper, Joe, the Daily Telegraph. The
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: PMS backed in an extension to the instant asset write off,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: although it's twenty thousand and not thirty as the coalitions promised,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: and it will last a year, not go on into
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the future. Amanda, I remember the first time that this
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: was introduced. I think it was in a Scott Morrison budget.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: And it's very important for tradees to be able to
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: write off this gear as a tax deduction, isn't it.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: It's pivotal to them, a lot of them to keep
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: their businesses running.
• 46:36
  Speaker 13: Absolutely, and you could tell that Albanez he hated actually
• 46:40
  Speaker 13: saying this and providing this, but he needed to. He
• 46:42
  Speaker 13: mentioned sole trader, tradees and small business that many times. Today.
• 46:47
  Speaker 13: I nearly fell off my chair because the last three
• 46:50
  Speaker 13: years he's done nothing but try and destroy the sole
• 46:53
  Speaker 13: trader for trading and the small business owner. They are
• 46:56
  Speaker 13: suffering more than they ever have before. So to try
• 46:59
  Speaker 13: and up on a bandwagon and pull it everything that
• 47:02
  Speaker 13: they're doing to say, oh, but it's for small business
• 47:04
  Speaker 13: when it's not, because the proofs in the pudding, we
• 47:07
  Speaker 13: know that they've suffered more under this federal Labor government
• 47:10
  Speaker 13: than any other Government's absolutely horrific. But then to say
• 47:14
  Speaker 13: we'll give you a bone just for a little bit
• 47:16
  Speaker 13: for a year because we want you to vote us
• 47:18
  Speaker 13: in is actually insulting.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Joe. A lot of announcements from Peter dutt Avet Western
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Sydney today, some from the PM as well, obviously crucial
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: to this campaign, always has been, always will be yes. Absolutely.
• 47:32
  Speaker 12: I mean, I think it's a foregone conclusion that a
• 47:33
  Speaker 12: few seats are going to go in Victoria. So I
• 47:35
  Speaker 12: think New South Wales and Western Sydney in particular is
• 47:38
  Speaker 12: more important than ever. I think a lot of bell
• 47:40
  Speaker 12: Weather seats are their seats, like paramatter. If Labor loses that,
• 47:44
  Speaker 12: then it pretty much cannot coven in this country. So
• 47:48
  Speaker 12: I love being there. A Manor and I were both there.
• 47:50
  Speaker 12: I was up there in the front row just hanging
• 47:52
  Speaker 12: on every word of both leaders. I think they both
• 47:55
  Speaker 12: performed very well. I think it's great that you know
• 47:58
  Speaker 12: that the Labor Party is acting small business and grandfather
• 48:02
  Speaker 12: right off. I don't see really how they can knock
• 48:05
  Speaker 12: it off like, yes, they've e sended it for another
• 48:07
  Speaker 12: year and I imagine they'll probably send it for another
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: year beyond that. Peter Dutton was also there talking about
• 48:13
  Speaker 12: his slashing of the fuel x eyes. Both made major
• 48:16
  Speaker 12: announcements to particular road projects in Western Sydney and also
• 48:23
  Speaker 12: you know the big meta project there which is Western
• 48:26
  Speaker 12: Sydney Airport, which is basically the brainchild of Anthony Albanezi.
• 48:30
  Speaker 12: He was key in getting that over the line, so
• 48:32
  Speaker 12: that would be a massive train.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Amanda, Joe, you've had a very busy day. Thank you
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: very much for joining us. We'll catch you next week.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: My lowlight of the campaign so far as that argument
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: about where the PM is going to live the world.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: According to Rowan Dean's Up Next