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One on One: Arielle Kebbel · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all Inlets.
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  Speaker 2: You, I am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in podcast one
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  Speaker 1: eleven productions I Heart Radio. We are going to speak
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  Speaker 1: with the one, the Only Ariel Kebble, who played the
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  Speaker 1: role of Lindsay Lister for nine episodes from two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and three to two thousand and four. She is a
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  Speaker 1: stars Hollow teen, a local teen who attends stars Hollow
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  Speaker 1: High with Lane and Dean, and attended primary school with
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  Speaker 1: Rory as well. She starts dating Dean Forrester after his
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  Speaker 1: relationship with Rory ends, and they marry in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and three, but divorce a year later after Lindsay discovers
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  Speaker 1: that Dean cheated on her with Rory. And we have
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  Speaker 1: a little hat, a little bit to say about that,
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  Speaker 1: didn't we. The first time we see Ariel is Lindsay
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  Speaker 1: is in season three, episode fifteen, Face Off. The last
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  Speaker 1: time we see is season five, episode two, A Messenger
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  Speaker 1: nothing More. She has starred in a number of films
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  Speaker 1: and buck fastin your Seat Belts. She's got quite the resume.
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  Speaker 1: She's been in prestigious film festivals such as Brooklyn Brothers,
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  Speaker 1: Beat The Best, I Melt With You, starring Rob Low
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  Speaker 1: and Jeremy Piven supporting characters, which premiered in twenty twelve
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  Speaker 1: Tribeca Film Festival. She played Gia Matteo in a final
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  Speaker 1: installment of Fifty Shades of Gray saga, Fifty Shades Freed,
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  Speaker 1: which premiered February twenty eighteen, breaking box office records. Her
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  Speaker 1: other film credits include John Tucker Must Die, The Uninvited,
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  Speaker 1: The Grudge, To Think Like a Man, An Aquamarine. Most recently,
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  Speaker 1: Ariel can be seen playing Lucy Otto and Fox's Nine
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  Speaker 1: to one one, and Kimberly in Netflix's After We Fell
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  Speaker 1: and After Ever Happy. In twenty twenty, she played the
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  Speaker 1: lead role of Amelia in the NBC series Lincoln Rhyme
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  Speaker 1: Hunt for the Bone Collector. On the small screen, she
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  Speaker 1: started opposite Dwayne Johnson and the HBO hit series Ballers.
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  Speaker 1: She also caught the attention of critics and audiences alike
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  Speaker 1: with her scene stealing turn as the villainous Brittany in
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  Speaker 1: lifetimes critically acclaimed series Unreal, a performance which Entertainment Weekly
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  Speaker 1: cited is one of the best of twenty and fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Ariel is perhaps most familiar to television audiences from her
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  Speaker 1: role in the CW's The Vampire Diaries, which she played
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  Speaker 1: Lexi Branson. Additional television credits include My God, This Girl
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  Speaker 1: Works a Lot, Uh, recurring roles on Gilmore Girl's Life, Unexpected,
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  Speaker 1: Grounded for Life, The League, The Grinder, CW's nine O
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  Speaker 1: two one zero, as well as guest starring roles on
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  Speaker 1: True Blood, Hawaii five zero, Law and Order SVU. Let
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  Speaker 1: me take a breath, Let us welcome. Ariel Kebble. Hey, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: how you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Long time no talk?
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  Speaker 1: You haven't aged? What's going on? What's happening? Where are you?
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  Speaker 1: Where do you live?
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  Speaker 3: I live in New York.
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  Speaker 1: You're in New York and you have an aged This
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  Speaker 1: is not possible.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's very kind of view.
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  Speaker 1: I just I just got back from New York. I
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  Speaker 1: was in New York for three days. A city is
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  Speaker 1: has come to life.
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  Speaker 3: Again, it has it has. What were you doing in
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  Speaker 3: New York?
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  Speaker 1: We were doing the sort of a scale down upfront
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  Speaker 1: for I'm on a new show that the CW picked up,
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  Speaker 1: and they're going to add to their fall schedule, so
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  Speaker 1: they brought brought us there to meet you know you
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  Speaker 1: know to hobnob and do well relations.
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  Speaker 3: I love New York. I'm a little I call it
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  Speaker 3: fake up state. I'm about fifteen minutes outside the city
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  Speaker 3: on lands.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well good, that's a good place to be. That's beautiful
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  Speaker 1: country up there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of farms, a lot of it's just great
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  Speaker 1: suburbs and trees and lakes and forests. It's wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: It is. I grew up riding horses, and I am
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  Speaker 3: very passionate about horse rescue. I work with an organization
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  Speaker 3: called Skydog Sanctuary. They're out west in Malibu and Oregan.
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  Speaker 3: They help rescue wild horses from slaughter and roundups. And
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people don't know our tax dollars go
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  Speaker 3: to these roundups every single year, and it's unfortunately very political.
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  Speaker 3: We can we won't. Well, I know we're here to
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  Speaker 3: talk about Gilmore girls.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, you talk about anything you want, talking about
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  Speaker 1: anything you want.
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  Speaker 3: But it's it's a it's a huge passion of mine,
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  Speaker 3: and it's you know, we America used to have two
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  Speaker 3: million wild horses and now we have like under fifty thousand.
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  Speaker 3: There's over sixty thousand in holding, and it's just a
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  Speaker 3: really horrible situation that we need to fix. And so
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  Speaker 3: part of me being out here is being on land
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  Speaker 3: and working with horses. And I rescued my first must
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  Speaker 3: saying through Skydog recently, and so it's been a huge,
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  Speaker 3: huge life change, but something I just I feel I
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  Speaker 3: need to be doing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Great, and it's called Skydog. Is there a website
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  Speaker 1: Skydog dot Commerce.
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  Speaker 3: There is Skydog Sanctuary, very huge on Instagram and Facebook.
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  Speaker 3: You also have a website and Claire Staples is the
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  Speaker 3: founder and she is the real deal. She is horsewoman
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  Speaker 3: through and through.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic. Well, congratulations, I hope it's going well. People can
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  Speaker 1: go there and donate if they want. I guess, oh
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  Speaker 1: you'll donate. Donations are always accepted and appreciated. But let's
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about Gilmore. Let's get into it a little bit. Lindsey,
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  Speaker 1: you are much discussed over here, let me tell you.
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  Speaker 1: And then here you are here on the hot seat.
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  Speaker 1: I think one one, I think we're more on the
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  Speaker 1: hot seat than you are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I have to say when I heard you
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  Speaker 3: guys you all asked me on. I was thrilled because
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  Speaker 3: I know you've had so many amazing guests come on,
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  Speaker 3: and I feel like, you know, it's just time Lindsay
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  Speaker 3: gets her day in court, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, Lindsay Lindsay. You know, here's the thing I think
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  Speaker 1: about Lindsay was how they structured her story, forced me
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  Speaker 1: to root for Dean and Rory, and then after the fact,
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  Speaker 1: after the damage was done to the marriage, to everybody's lives,
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  Speaker 1: then they start to develop your character and then people
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  Speaker 1: then we start to like you and then empathize with you.
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  Speaker 1: And I just thought that was I don't know, it
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  Speaker 1: was a little tricky for me.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was tricky. It was tricky, and I
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  Speaker 3: think you know, I was so young. That was my
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  Speaker 3: first job. I moved from Florida to Los Angeles for
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  Speaker 3: that job, right, I was seventeen years old. My first
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  Speaker 3: day on set, my mom was still with me, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So and as the show went on, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: became an adult on set. But I was so young
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  Speaker 3: and I was so thrilled to be part of the show.
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  Speaker 3: I just I showed up every day just wanting to
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  Speaker 3: learn and do the best that I could and absorb
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  Speaker 3: everything that was happening around me. So it's funny it
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  Speaker 3: even for me, and like, of course, I didn't love
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  Speaker 3: what happened to Lindsay. But I think I also just
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  Speaker 3: understood the story in terms of, like, yeah, the two
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  Speaker 3: leads are the love interests, you know. You know, like
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  Speaker 3: so I never really took it personally that way, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it was until later, in this kind
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  Speaker 3: of resurgence and people finding the show again and looking
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  Speaker 3: back at clips that I'm like, my god, that was awful,
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  Speaker 3: Like yeah, the way that they pegged her. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: like the you know, like like I was just rewatching
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  Speaker 3: the scene to get to remind myself. I'm like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: how bad was that dinner scene? And it's like he
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  Speaker 3: comes home from being with Rory and she's like, my
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  Speaker 3: mom made gummy bear brownies, you know, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, like you yes, I had to this character.
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  Speaker 3: It was a very challenging. I had to be likable,
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  Speaker 3: but I was such a victim. But I was also
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  Speaker 3: like painted as like this goody two shoes who just
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  Speaker 3: like makes brownies with gummy bears and pot roast, and like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's like, how how can you like that?
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  Speaker 3: That's so annoying?
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  Speaker 1: Man. That was an unforgiving role.
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  Speaker 3: It was just so yeah, So I it was hard
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  Speaker 3: and then but in retrospect, I'm I it's like, man,
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  Speaker 3: I would like to see I would like to see
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  Speaker 3: Lindsay's redemption. You know, it really wasn't She wasn't get
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  Speaker 3: a full shot. I don't think she was given a full,
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  Speaker 3: like well full, well rounded character. And I understand that
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of for the story sake, but and I
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  Speaker 3: think I just got so used to people hating me
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  Speaker 3: that I was like, yeah, well that's my job.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really for character development. I don't care if it's
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  Speaker 1: a smaller role or it's a role that's not going
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  Speaker 1: to last. And they know that, but I just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just I want to see the character developed. I want
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  Speaker 1: to get to know or I want to see them
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  Speaker 1: in a relationship. I want to see their struggles. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 1: how do we take the ride? And then we become
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  Speaker 1: very biased and it's just sort of manipulative. It feels manipulative.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I was somewhat We discussed the Rory
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  Speaker 1: Dean drama the Lindsay drama at length, we really did so. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so you're seventeen years old, you're coming from floor, you're
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  Speaker 1: acting in Florida, you're doing high school plays, I assume,
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  Speaker 1: and you're and everybody's saying how amazing you are? And
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  Speaker 1: how do you go from Florida to Hollywood with your mom?
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  Speaker 1: How does that? How does that happen?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I funny, I actually wasn't doing plays. My sister
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  Speaker 3: was doing plays. I was doing more commercials and music
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  Speaker 3: videos and anything I could, a lot of modeling, you know,
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  Speaker 3: anything I could to understand what the set experience was like.
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  Speaker 3: And then uh, and I was in very serious acting classes.
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  Speaker 3: I had taken myself out of public school and put
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  Speaker 3: myself in a private performing art school so I could
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  Speaker 3: graduate early. My parents taught me I had to reinvest
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  Speaker 3: any money and made from the business into my business.
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  Speaker 3: So like I was paying for I was helping pay
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  Speaker 3: for my school, I was paying for headshots. I was,
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  Speaker 3: you know, really working towards making this my career.
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  Speaker 1: You're really motivated at a young age, Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was, And because in the back of my mind,
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  Speaker 3: I just thought, the sooner I go out there and
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  Speaker 3: try this, the sooner I'm going to know if it
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  Speaker 3: works or not, and I can get on with my life.
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  Speaker 3: So for me, I was never I was always a
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  Speaker 3: great student. I was never interested in college. But it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't because I didn't love school. It was because I
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  Speaker 3: was like, I just need to get out here and
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  Speaker 3: try this, and I don't want to waste time because
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  Speaker 3: if it doesn't work, I need to find a different career,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And then I had agents that would put
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  Speaker 3: me on tape for things, so it was Freaky. I
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  Speaker 3: tested for Freaky Friday. They flew me to LA I
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  Speaker 3: didn't get me. But then I came back for Mean Girls.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't get it. Then I came back for Mean Girls.
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  Speaker 3: I was close on that. Somewhere along the way my
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  Speaker 3: tape got passed around. I got representation, and then my
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  Speaker 3: agent sent me a VHS remember those ed and they said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: there's this show, the Gilmour Girls on the WB I
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  Speaker 3: missed that little dancing frog and they said right and
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  Speaker 3: uh and they said, hey, the only requirements are you
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  Speaker 3: have to talk fast and you have to be five
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  Speaker 3: eight or taller. And I was like, in my mind,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like great in the bag, I got this. And
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  Speaker 3: then so just timing wise, I said, hey, I want
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  Speaker 3: to finish my life in Florida and then move out
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  Speaker 3: for pilot season, which would coincide with this audition. So
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  Speaker 3: that's what we did. We packed up the car my
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  Speaker 3: mom and I packed our record player in records and
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  Speaker 3: and I went to l A and I had the
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  Speaker 3: audition the next day, and then a week later I
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  Speaker 3: was on set.
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  Speaker 1: Who is it? Who is it? The audition?
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  Speaker 3: It was Kenny Ortega, he was checking the episodes, and
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  Speaker 3: it was Amy and Dan, I think, the casting director
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  Speaker 3: and casting associate. And it was interesting. I bombed my
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  Speaker 3: first and I wanted to run out of the room,
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  Speaker 3: and he put his hand down almost like kind of
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  Speaker 3: stopped me at the door, and he said get back
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  Speaker 3: in here. He's like, take a breath, and he goes,
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  Speaker 3: put yourself in this girl's shoes. You can do this.
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  Speaker 3: I know you can. And he said, she feels awkward.
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  Speaker 3: It was the scene the audition scene was when I
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  Speaker 3: run into Rory at the ice skating at the ice
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  Speaker 3: hockey rink and I know that I'm with Dean, but
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  Speaker 3: I know that she doesn't know yet, and so I'm
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  Speaker 3: a little awkward and she doesn't know why. And I
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  Speaker 3: did a take two and it was like something came
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  Speaker 3: from above and it channeled through me and I knew
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  Speaker 3: when I walked out of that room. I felt so
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  Speaker 3: good and I felt so grateful to Kenny and to
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  Speaker 3: the entire team in the room that allowed this space
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  Speaker 3: to work, you know, to work through it that I
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  Speaker 3: said I'm gonna be okay, and truly in that moment,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in sure. Of course, I would have lowed to
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  Speaker 3: get the roll, but I didn't. I knew I was
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  Speaker 3: up against so much. I didn't really expect to get
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  Speaker 3: the roll. I just felt amazing that I knew I
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  Speaker 3: was in LA for a reason. I'm like, I can
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  Speaker 3: do this, you know, and then the cherry on top
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  Speaker 3: was getting it.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. All right, first down set, you meet Jared, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what was I like?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I had this thing when I was younger where
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  Speaker 3: I tried to like be cool all the time, or
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  Speaker 3: like hide my nerves with being cool. So we're in
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  Speaker 3: I meet him for the first time in hair makeup
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  Speaker 3: trailer and I'm just trying to act cool and I'm like, oh, hey, Dean,
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  Speaker 3: what's up? So I'll be working with you anyways, Dean,
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  Speaker 3: do you want to talk about the scene? And you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's very he's being very nice back to me, and
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  Speaker 3: finally he goes, my name's Jared, and I had been
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  Speaker 3: so nervous. I had been calling him by his character name. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: that's a your makeup trailer, and I was like, oh
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  Speaker 3: my god, I wanted to and hide. And then we
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  Speaker 3: get to set and the first scene up. It wasn't
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  Speaker 3: the first scene, it was the second scene, but it's
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  Speaker 3: definitely My first day of filming is the kissing scene.
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  Speaker 3: And it was my first on screen kiss. Ever.
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  Speaker 1: So your first thing you do in your first job
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  Speaker 1: is to kiss Jared Padleeki. Yeah, okay, that's what tell.
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  Speaker 3: After I've called him Dean, I like probably looked like
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  Speaker 3: such a fangirl. In reality, I hadn't really watched the
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  Speaker 3: show other than the clips, so I was just naive.
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  Speaker 3: But anyways, so then I'm thinking, okay, I got this
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  Speaker 3: be cool. He comes up to me as we're rehearsing.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, so, is this really your first on screen kiss?
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  Speaker 3: I either go white or red, I don't know. But
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  Speaker 3: I look over and I see my mom and she's
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  Speaker 3: like and she had freaking told Jared like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: to be nice, treat me nice. It was my first
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  Speaker 3: kiss or something. I don't know. All I know is
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  Speaker 3: I was like, so my cover was blown. I could
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  Speaker 3: no longer play it cool. Everybody knew. I was nervous
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  Speaker 3: as hell. It was my first day and my first
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  Speaker 3: miss and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, So you did you know Lindsay would end
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  Speaker 1: up marrying? Did they tell you that?
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  Speaker 3: No? I thought that that came out of left field.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that was bizarre. I mean, again, this is
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  Speaker 3: my first show, so I didn't know how things worked.
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  Speaker 3: So I had a mixed reaction because on the one hand,
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  Speaker 3: I thought I'm very young to be getting married, and
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  Speaker 3: then on the other hand, I thought, well, I guess
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  Speaker 3: this means they like me and I'm in the show now,
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  Speaker 3: So right.
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  Speaker 1: Did you think that? Did you think that that meant, oh,
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  Speaker 1: here comes a six year deal. Here it comes, They're
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  Speaker 1: going to lock me in.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even know about the six years, Okay, I think,
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  Speaker 3: but I did think that I was going to have
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  Speaker 3: I thought I thought I was going to people were
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  Speaker 3: going to root for me more. I thought like this
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  Speaker 3: was their way of bringing me kind of into the clan,
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  Speaker 3: versus creating drama for Rory. And I think that the
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  Speaker 3: thing was is I was so young and naive. I
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  Speaker 3: never had a conversation with the producers it was like
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  Speaker 3: to me, it was like, Oh, they're in their throne
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  Speaker 3: over there, leave them alone. So why had just asked
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  Speaker 3: anyone or had a conversation. I'm sure I would have
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  Speaker 3: been filled in, but I for some reason, I thought like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: don't talk to them unless they talk to you. So
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  Speaker 3: every script I got I was really I had no
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  Speaker 3: idea where my character was going.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, fans obviously are very much invested.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let me just tell you this that I swear
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  Speaker 3: to God this just happened. So our appoint in time
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  Speaker 3: was twelve three, at two fifty five. My dear friend
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  Speaker 3: who is a producer and she has two girls. We
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  Speaker 3: worked on a show and I got very close to
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  Speaker 3: her two girls. They're young, they are let me tell
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  Speaker 3: you they're nine and thirteen. She texts me this picture.
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  Speaker 3: I kid you not. I don't know if you can see.
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  Speaker 3: That's Lindsay and her mom in that like multicolored scarf,
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  Speaker 3: which is actually my scarf, and wardrobe liked it so
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  Speaker 3: much they have me wear it. She texts me this
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  Speaker 3: picture and she goes the girls and I are very
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  Speaker 3: protective of Lindsay, and I write back, Holy, I'm literally
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: about to do a two Worlds podcast and then she goes, well,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: you can tell them how your nine year old and
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: three year old buddies are binging and very invested.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Uh huh, yes they are. They are. So did you
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: get did fans approach you? Were you getting negative feedback
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: from fans? Were you? Were you kind of like a
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: bad girl?
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Well? I wasn't, honestly, Thank god Instagram didn't exist in
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I would have been strong enough.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I there, like after the first episode aired. I remember
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I called my mom every day. We talked every day,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: and so I was on the phone with my mom
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: and I was going to Coffee Bean in my juicy
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: couturs to jumpsuit as you did when you were an
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: actress in La in two thousand and six.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I think I remember that it was pink, right.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I think I had a pink one.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: You had a tan one. I think a tan one
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: and a light blue a baby I had.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the blue was my favorite, But I.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Do I do remember the pink buddy. Oh my god.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: So I'm on the phone and these girls tap me
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: on the shoulder in line at Coffee Bean and they say,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: excuse me, are you Aeriel Cable and I'm like, well,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: hang on, yeah, and they go, oh my god from
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Gilmore Girls and I go yeah, yeah, and I'm thinking, oh,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: this is my first we hate you. And my mom
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: heard the whole thing, and I was like, well, welcome.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Hollywood baptism by fire.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: But it's interesting because this resurgence now people are more
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: on Lindsay's side. My entire first half of my career,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: everyone hated her hands down.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's what the next reboot's going to be. Maybe
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: it's I get my wedding and you get your comeuppance.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Right, Hey, I would love that. I'm all for that.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie little. I was a little hurt.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I wasn't in the other one.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Oh that, Oh the reboots, the Netflix stuff.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was hoping we'd get to see like Lindsay
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: doing well in that. But so I still feel like
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: her day is coming, you know what.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have made complete sense given who they
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: invited into that world, right, Yeah, I know, I know,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know. All right, let's talk
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: about Dean and Roy getting together the way they did.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: When you read that, did your jaw drop?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: It did? Because I felt I felt cheated on by
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: the show. But but I'll tell you why is because
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: again I didn't get any warning. So but again, looking
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: back on it, I also didn't communicate with the producers,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: so you know, it's a two way street. I was young,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I was fresh. I would I think they knew I
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: would just show up and do whatever was whatever was
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: there like, so, so it was incredibly shocking for me.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: But I also was kind of used to being shocked
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: because we had already had the wedding episode come in,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: you know, so like I was equally shocked reading that
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I was getting married because I think the way it
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: read it was like we were only in a I
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: was only in a few episodes in whom we were married.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: So it even it wasn't just a shock of having
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: a being young and being married, It was that our
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: relationship in and of itself was young, you know, like
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: it felt like we we were still dating and then
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden we were married. And again, so
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I didn't know how to feel about that, But again
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I wanted to just stay positive and go, well, I
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: guess this means they like me. I guess I'm on
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: the show more, you know. And then when the Rory
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Dean thing, happened. I was very shocked. I was surprised
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I didn't get a heads up, but again because I
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: think I thought, well, does this mean I'm off the show?
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: It was just very tumultuous, and in my own brain
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: all of the time, I never felt safe, you know, like,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: but I didn't know what questions to ask to help
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: get clarity. I think I just felt like I'm just
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: kind of voiceless along on this journey because I don't know,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: a month ago, I was living in Florida, yeah, you know,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: well longer after the show went on. But so I again,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: it wasn't something I really talked about. I wish I
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: had talked about my feelings a little more, even if
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: it just helped me get clarity on this story they
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: were trying to paint, and that it wasn't personal. And
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: you know, because of course I thought like, well, am
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I not acting well enough? Is it me? If I
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: had done something differently? Would they want me on the
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: show more? Is this their way of just getting rid
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: of me because I'm not working?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't think a lot kind of.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Very self deprecating with it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: All right, Really, I don't think many people in that
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: cast had a dialogue with the producers. I don't think
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: there was really a lot of give and take or discussions.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: You know. I don't know that that went on very often.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe sometimes in rehearsal and the diner with
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Lauren or you know, we get into it a little
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: bit and discuss things, but it wasn't to any great extent.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: So oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no, it was like an
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: open forum where hey, I've got some ideas and I'd
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: like to talk about them. It's like, no, it's not good.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: They're like, huh, just stand on your mark, shut up,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: say action, say the words, you get your paycheck.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: I guess it turns out I was just my intuition
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: was just like.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, so now you know, we're getting a little further
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: along the lines with this character starting to develop, you
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: getting married. What was the reaction from fans out there
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: in the world, and uh, when that happened.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I think they still hated me, you know, I don't
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: think that really. I mean, look, every now and again
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: i'd have someone come up it would be like a
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: mother daughter duo, and they'd be like, we love your character,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: we feel bad for her, you know, but forty of
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: people did not like her. And but now in the
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: last I don't know, three years, five years now, the
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: majority of people that could up to me say Lindsay
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: deserved better. I know what she's doing now, feel so
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: bad for her. We're protective of her, you know, and
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, thank you. You know she was great?
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you know.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: So that's felt like a really just pleasant surprise. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: I do have to say I've always thanked there was another.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: There was two big moments for me on that show
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: in terms of professional learning, and the first was Kenny
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Ortega when he helped me get I truly believe helped
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: me get the role because he the direction he gave me,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: and I've always thanked him for that. And the other
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: is Amy Sherman Palladino. She directed the episode I always
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: get this wrong. The fans are gonna kill me. I
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: always go, is it pot roast or roast b or
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: meat loaf? But I think it was pot ROAs you
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: can tell I don't cook it. Still, the whole episode
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: was like, if I just get this pot roast right,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Dean will love me and I and fix our marriage.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: And she was directing that episode, and that's actually what
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: she had said to me, because when I'm in there
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: ordering the meat and I'm kind of freaking out, what
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I wasn't understanding was the subtext of like I have
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: to save my marriage. I was reading it more like
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I want to be perfect for him, so kind of
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: the same feeling, but one was much deeper and had
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: more weight than the other. And she was the one
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: that came in and talked to me like that. And
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: again at the time, I felt like this was one
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: of those really special moments, like woman to woman, where
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: she was kind of asking me to grow up a
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: little bit, and it was a deeper thing that was
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: going on. And I really didn't know that or clock
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: that until we had that conversation. And that always stuck
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: with me too, because those are deep. You know, when
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: a woman is going through those feelings, it doesn't matter
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: even if she's a young bride or a young woman.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: It's a lot, it's a it's very layered. And I
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: hadn't clocked that till she talk to me about that,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: and I always I always loved that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about when you discovered the letter.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Oh what letter? The letter? Oh? When I throw this
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: stuff out the window? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yes,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: I remember. I remember.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Tell us, tell us what that was? Like, Uh, do
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you think Lindsey handled that the right way? Is there
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: any other way to handle it? I mean, what do
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: you think tell us about tell us about that. Tell
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: us what you remember about that day.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, here's the thing. If I'm talking to like, you know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: if I'm trying to be a role model today, I
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: would say, like, no, go to therapy. But let me
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: tell you something. When I got that scene, I was
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: so happy because I felt like I had all this
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: pent up, every script It was like what, like, wow,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I'm just getting like murdered over here. So when I
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: had this seat, I was like, hell, yes, this is
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: my moment. I am going to rage. And that's what
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: I did. And I think I heared the shit out
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: of them because the way I was yelling was I mean,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: it was always scripted. I throw stuff out the window.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: But I remember the boom guy coming in having to
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: fix the mic because I was yelling and I was shaking.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I was I mean, I was like a terror and
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: I wanted it to be that way. And the thing is,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: you don't even really I mean again, I don't even
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: think you if someone could find the footage of what
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: we shot versus what people saw, I would be so
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: curious because I went for it. That was fun. That
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: was a fun day.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: You went down and got that stuff. H man. Yeah,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: those are fun days when you can empty the tank.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Was that the only scene you had that day? And
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: you could empty the tank and you didn't have anything
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: else to do the rest of the day.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure I was it
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: like that episode or if not?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, okay, so yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I just I remember going into the work
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: that day being like, I'm gonna load.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Both barrels. You're coming in delivering both barrels. Uh? And
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: you did that? Was that was a harrowing scene. That
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: was That was quite something. Do you think Lindsay Uh
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: deserved a better send off than just that little sort
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: of silent conference. You didn't really say anything at the gazebo,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: did you? Your mother, you know, gave gave Rory what for,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: but you know, you just you didn't have They didn't
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: give anything to say. There was nothing. Did you get
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: descript had issues?
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: You know? I you know, I think exactly what you
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: said is why I would love for her to have
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: some life now. You know, I think that it's time
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: it really she deserves more.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: And it is odd that you didn't come back now
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: that I think about it. I mean, you've got quite
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the resume, You've got the chops. No, no really, I
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: mean your career has been terrific, and yeah, it's kind
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: of odd you didn't come back. I I thanks for
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: bringing that up, because that's uh, that's something we'll go
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to the mat on next time.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, well, thank you.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: That would be if I have anything to say about it.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: And I don't.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I know, I know no, And I've seen Amy a
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: few times and we have good laughs. We have a
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: great relationship. We have a great thing. I you know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I didn't take it personally in the sense that I
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: was like, why I didn't they invite me back? I
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Moore was bummed because I thought, Wow, this could have
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: been a cool moment, you know. When I when I
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: found out, I wasn't I know how these things work.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: It's like, you've only got so much time to tell
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: so many stories. I mean, I'm in the middle of
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: producing something right now where some characters are coming back
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: from something, and you know, it's it's hard rearranging everybody,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: and some people are coming back, some people aren't. And so,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: you know, I never took it personally, but I was
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: more just personally bummed for you know, because I thought, oh,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: this would be a cool moment, you know, right right.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Right right, Let's talk about other things that you're doing.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: You mentioned something that you're producing. Now, what does that
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about I am?
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I am, So I'm still acting, and I'm on a
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: show called nine on one and I go back and forth.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: And then I did this really cool INDI called Site.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: It it's like a psychological thriller, but it deals with
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: past lives, which is something I'm fascinated by. And then
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: I'm about to go shoot the movie next month. But
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: in between, I started producing during the pandemic and sold
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: a studio film to Fox.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not allowed to talk now, but it's it's been
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: a long, big dream of a dream of mine for
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: a long time, and so it is very exciting that
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: we're making it. And I think people are going to
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: be excited.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Did you write it or or you just took and
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: got it?
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: We have a great We have a great writer Janae Savage,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: and we are very close on the script. So it's.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Boy, it's so hard to get anything made these days,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: especially in film film world.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: It's been really exciting, and you know, we're still it's
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: moving quickly, but it's like, you know, every stage is
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: It's been a lot of learning already, you know, and
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: it's been really nice to just give artists, I don't know,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: to be able to like speak to artists the way
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: that sometimes I wish I was spoken to on set,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: you know. And also working with women. The women that
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: we're working with, the twentieth Century, the producers over there,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: are the studio heads over there, it's three females. They
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: have been amazing to work with. For our very first meeting,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: they were like, this is a collaboration, this is a
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: safe space. You know. I've just been blown away by
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: the support we've had from these incredible women at the
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: studio and it makes a huge difference. It makes a
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: huge difference. So it's been a great experience. I'm I
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: have a few other projects in development, a TV show,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: a docu series, and another film, but so yeah, there's
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: a lot going on. It's been I mean, look, it's
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: been a hard few years for everybody. But I've just
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: been doing what I can to take care of myself
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: and you know, keep chugging along.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's all you can do. I dreamed up
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: this podcast in the middle of pandemic because I, you know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I had to do something. You got to do something.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: And the funny part about it is I thought I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: had this amazing original idea of a rewatch. Right there
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: was already like twenty thousand of them.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but how cool you have such a huge fan base.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: This is such a success. I mean, thank god you
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: did it. It's been so great.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't think of it soon.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I was too busy to think of it sooner. And
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: then when it all got shut down, I was like, woy,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I gotta do something.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Isn't it funny what happens in stillness? Like you know,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: when you're going, going, going, you don't think of ideas,
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: But when you get quiet, suddenly the ideas just come.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: No, I think of ideas going on. They're just not
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: good ideas, you know, Like, no, you don't want to
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: do it? All right, We're gonna play a little game
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: now called rapid Fire. You ready, I'm gonna fire questions
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: out you fire answers back to me to the best
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: of your ability. I think you got this. Are you ready?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: How do you like your coffee?
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I'm with Oat Milk?
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Your team, Logan team, Jesster team, Dean team, Lindsay, what's
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: your favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and laureli Are Richard.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Emiley, Rory and Lawrence?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Name and who and who?
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: What was Lauren's name on the show, Laura Lai?
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so right there you go, my daughter, right mother, daughter,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: There you go. What would you order it? Luke Steiner?
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Did you make like a good fried egg? Samwitch?
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're damn straight?
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Okay? I think that would be.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Jackson or Taylor for towns.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Selectmen, I stay out of politics.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Would you rather listen to Hep Alien or the Troubadour's
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: cover songs? Do you know what I'm talking about?
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: No?
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: You got this look deer in the headlights? Then? Now
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: that's a deer in the headlights. That's the look you gave.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I would pull over, stop, help you out. You know
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's not a deer. I'd honk at or
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: like get out of my way. I'd get out and say,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: you know, listen, oh man, uh help. Alien was Lane's band.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: She was in with Sebastian Bach and then Zach and Todd.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I think so they had their little band, remember that.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: And the troubadour was Grantlee Phillips. And every once in
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: a while the camera would pan. Once in a while,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the camera would pan and the town square the opening
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: or something, and there there'd be playing one of his
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: cool songs. Okay, okay, the moody guy. You know, the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: cool moody guy. Anyway, that was a classic. Look okay,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Harvard or Yale?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you gotta go Harvard if it's.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: An okay, why.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Because it's so snatty, you gotta go.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: You gotta go with the SNAUGHTI what's Rory's bigger mistake?
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Crashing the car her boyfriend built for her or sleeping
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: with her ex who was married, which you're the same guy. Actually,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with that one her. Yeah, that's that's
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: that's a bigger mistake. Just you know, all friends being equal.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Uh who from Gilmour would you not want with you?
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Stuck on a Desert Island.
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  Speaker 3: Probably oralized mom.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Because oh she would be complaining a little bit. Yeah,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: she'd be complaining, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think actually I think she would make I think
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: she would entertain me for like the first hour with
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: because her comments are always so funny, and then I
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: think I would go insane Jackie. Now, who what is
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: her character name?
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Emily? Emily, Yes, Emily, uh something in your life? You
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: are all in on. I think I think we know horses, horses,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: horses coming in from all directions.
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  Speaker 3: Why wild horse Rescue? Yeah?
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, Well, I wish we had more time. Please
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: carve out some more time for us, because we will
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: call again. There's more to discuss. Actually I didn't get
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the evening. Like there's there's fan questions that I didn't
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: even get to. Oh no, there's a whole list. Oh
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: you have no idea. The fans are obsessed with you.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: They are obsessed. Yeah. Well yeah, so come back on sometime. Okay,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: we'll be in touch.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: We tell everybody. I said, Hi, that's so sweet.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I will tell everybody and thank you for your time,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much, and good luck with say what it
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: is a sky.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Oh skydog sanctuary. Okay, and that's their name on Instagram
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: and my name on Instagram is at Ariel Kevl. I
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: also talk about out them there, so between the two
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: you can always find information. And they rescue wild horses
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: from round up and slaughter and terrible conditions.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I uh, after I'm done here today, I'm gonna I'm
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: gonna check it out. I'm kind of a horse guy too.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: When I was a kid, we moved out of New
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Jersey to this to the country, the Maryland countryside, and
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: down the street from us, or down the hill, was
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: lived a woman named Mary super who was a Grand
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: National champion, and we used to work. She gave us
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: jobs in her stable, oh my gosh, and she didn't
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: pay us anything. She allowed us on the property after
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: we were done our chores to go swimming in the
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: stream in the back of a property, and we did
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: every day. So it was kind of a wonderful existence
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: there for three years. And then we moved back to
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: New Jersey, which is still great, but it was just
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: a whole different country vibe, and it was it was fantastic.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: And we rode for and the neighbor across the street
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: at horses and my sister just fell in love with horses.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: And look at all these memories you mad, I mean
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: you still remember just.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Just got bucked off, got back on, you know when
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I you know, had that experience and get went right
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: into the mud. So anyway, but thank you so much,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: good luck with everything, all your projects, and well hopefully
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: we'll talk soon.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, thank you. This has been a nice memory.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: L Yes, it has been all right, Dariel, thanks so much.
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