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Capitulo 002: Internet Womanism & Online Brujeria · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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  Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Mommies, a myth and Bullshit, a radio
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  Speaker 1: phonic novella Local Radio hosted by Malamn. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: local Radio. Thanks for tuning in. As always, we are
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  Speaker 1: keeping brown girl our. So this podcast is for brown Girls,
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  Speaker 1: by brown girls, and today we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: Internet womenism and online blue, something that brought Mala and
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  Speaker 1: I both together, So she's going to introduce that topic
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  Speaker 1: to y'all. So, Mala, do you want to go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and do that? Yeah? Thank you. So. Our idea for
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  Speaker 1: today's um Our second episode, I think really came from
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  Speaker 1: our own individual experiences with the Internet, with connecting with
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  Speaker 1: other mohere um online, and with connecting with women who
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  Speaker 1: are practicing like their own Native Indigenous Afro Indigenous spirituality
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  Speaker 1: or bruhia or consciousness. And so we wanted to take
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  Speaker 1: this time on this episode, on this couple to kind
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  Speaker 1: of talk about the intersections about being a feminist, being
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  Speaker 1: a woman is being a mohair and also having our
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  Speaker 1: own roots, our own spiritual roots, our own indigenous practices
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  Speaker 1: or fragments of Indigenous practices and spirituality. And so what
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna do today is talk about our own you know,
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  Speaker 1: diosa and I our own individual experiences and connections with Bruheia,
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  Speaker 1: what Bruhia means to each of us. But then also
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  Speaker 1: talking about our favorite our favorite Instagram, Twitter brujns. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and that's and and the reason why we bring up
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  Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter and also, um, I mean any other
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  Speaker 1: online you know platform where women come together and can
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  Speaker 1: freely share and talk to each other and share you know,
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  Speaker 1: our practices, our pain, our history, all that stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: Tumbler as well, because that's where I see all these
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  Speaker 1: more heads converging and creating and sharing. It's all online.
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  Speaker 1: There's a coven on social media, absolutely, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that you know, everybody can fit into that coven in
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  Speaker 1: their own way. And the we're going to get into
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  Speaker 1: our faves later. But all the people that that we love,
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  Speaker 1: I think contribute differently, you know, and they add something
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  Speaker 1: unique to that coven, to this online Bruhia. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait to talk about that later. Um. So to
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  Speaker 1: get started, we're going to share, like Mama said, our
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  Speaker 1: own experiences with Bruheedia or our own spiritual practices. So
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  Speaker 1: do you want to get started? But we can just
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  Speaker 1: have so san I mean for me. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a third generation Mexican American at third generation Chicana. My
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  Speaker 1: mom is from l a Um, my grandmother is from Mexico.
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  Speaker 1: My dad and his mother and his whole side of
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  Speaker 1: the family are all from Bakersfield, California, right, But each
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  Speaker 1: of us have retained on some level, some semblance of
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  Speaker 1: indigenous or Afro Indigenous spirituality coming from Mexico, right. And
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  Speaker 1: I have memories of being very young and like my grandmother,
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  Speaker 1: for example, who's from Jalisco, Um, she leaves candles right
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  Speaker 1: burning like all night, you know, for a couple of
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  Speaker 1: days until they burn out on their own. And that's
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  Speaker 1: very intentional, you know, there's always LEAs in the house constantly.
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  Speaker 1: And then on my father's side of the family, when
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  Speaker 1: we were born, each of us, my siblings and I
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  Speaker 1: my dad, he and his family, what they do is
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  Speaker 1: they save the umbilical courts from the newborn bay these
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  Speaker 1: and my dad buried all of our bilical cords under
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  Speaker 1: a tree in the back of the house, in the backyard.
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  Speaker 1: And the intention behind that is to you know, ground
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  Speaker 1: your child like literally like in the earth in the pierra,
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  Speaker 1: but also to encourage your child to always come home,
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  Speaker 1: to find their way back home, whatever home is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not to that physical location, but back to family,
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  Speaker 1: back to community. And for me, I think that's so special,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's so beautiful, that beautiful, you know, like anybody
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  Speaker 1: could have a birthday party, but to have a parent
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  Speaker 1: intentionally right, try and connect you back with the earth
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  Speaker 1: and on a spiritual level, connect you back with your family,
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  Speaker 1: I think is so great. And then my dad the
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  Speaker 1: other thing that he did for us is he gave
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  Speaker 1: us all a one week birthday party. And so I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what exactly the roots of that are. That
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  Speaker 1: could be considered just superstition, right, because back in the day,
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  Speaker 1: like lot of babies didn't live, right, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of infant mortality, especially if you think about like my
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  Speaker 1: dad comes from a very very low income, like farm
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  Speaker 1: worker background in Bakersfield, California. So in that context where
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  Speaker 1: you have a lot of poor farm workers, um, poor Mexicans,
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  Speaker 1: poor Mexican Americans, por Latinos, poor Filipinos right working in
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  Speaker 1: the fields and not having access to health care, being
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  Speaker 1: exposed to pesticides. You see, you saw back in the
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  Speaker 1: day a lot of infant mortality that children were not
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  Speaker 1: living past a week past two weeks, so for us,
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  Speaker 1: we came out of that kind of tradition. So we
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  Speaker 1: all got a one week birthday party. So for me,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there's there's certain aspects of growing up
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  Speaker 1: where you could call that activity or that behavior is superstition,
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  Speaker 1: or you can look at that superstition and say, actually,
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  Speaker 1: this is something that maybe is deeply connected to an
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  Speaker 1: ancestor and ancestral knowledge and tradition. So I like to
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  Speaker 1: believe that the things that my father and that my
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  Speaker 1: grandmother and my mother have done for us are not
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  Speaker 1: just born out of thin air, but that they come
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  Speaker 1: from a specific like indigenous you know, place in history,
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  Speaker 1: and like on my dad's side where Yakima Indians you know,
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  Speaker 1: from the north, And I just I just have to
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  Speaker 1: believe that that has not all been in race, that
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  Speaker 1: it's still there, that we still carry all of that
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  Speaker 1: with us, all that energy and that power. So for me,
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  Speaker 1: like I have taken those examples that my parents and
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  Speaker 1: my grandparents have given me and I kind of ran
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  Speaker 1: with it and I wanted to learn more. So for me,
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  Speaker 1: Bruhetia has a lot to do with taking those fragments
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  Speaker 1: that we've been left with, you know, post colonization, post genocide,
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  Speaker 1: post migration and displacement, and taking those fragments and trying
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  Speaker 1: to make them whole again or piece them together. And
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  Speaker 1: I've been able to do a lot of that online
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  Speaker 1: and connecting with other latin As, other women of color,
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  Speaker 1: other people from an Indigenous background who are living there,
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  Speaker 1: Indigenous or Afro Indigenous spirituality today in that's really beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: I like what you said about UM stuff or practices
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  Speaker 1: that may be seen as superstitious UM, but really believing
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  Speaker 1: and knowing that there is a connection. There's a historical connection.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like my exposure to any type of
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  Speaker 1: Indigenous practices or ancestral practices that have been passed down
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  Speaker 1: I always connected them with a type of superstition growing up,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't really I didn't realize until now as
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  Speaker 1: an adult, and now that I'm in my own consciousness
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  Speaker 1: of what Bruheia is and what Indigenous practices are UM,
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  Speaker 1: now I can see it differently, you know. And for me,
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  Speaker 1: you know what you said about your grandmother, um leaving
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  Speaker 1: VELAs on all night for days, right, my dad would
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  Speaker 1: do this thing. And I think my exposure to any
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  Speaker 1: type of spiritual practices was definitely on my pervian side.
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  Speaker 1: So on my dad's side, Um, I know he probably
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't like that I share this, but he like his
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  Speaker 1: own you know that he visits and it's very is
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  Speaker 1: very low key about it because that's not something that
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  Speaker 1: we that he may be because he considers himself to
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  Speaker 1: be very Catholic or very religious, that type of like
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  Speaker 1: traditional organized religion. Right. But I'm like, okay, well there's
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  Speaker 1: something there if you you feel like the need to
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  Speaker 1: to seek out something outside of the church and a
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  Speaker 1: healer that's a woman outside of the church, right, So
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  Speaker 1: there's definitely something there. Um. So my exposure was also
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  Speaker 1: him leaving velitas on for days. You know, he would
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  Speaker 1: put them in the bowl so in case of balls,
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  Speaker 1: you know there's water, so he would put it in
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  Speaker 1: a bowl of water and very intentional, very intentional, um,
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  Speaker 1: and they would burn for days. Um. So that yeah,
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  Speaker 1: definitely like realitas using stage um, any type of limpia's
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  Speaker 1: with with withl you know, my grandmother would practice that
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  Speaker 1: with her children, like to protect from the cure you
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  Speaker 1: from the ma. You know, that was something that a
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  Speaker 1: conversation that was always had with me, um, my father,
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  Speaker 1: He's like mantra form for my entire life is trust nobody.
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  Speaker 1: And it's so funny because my dad has a really
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  Speaker 1: thick accent when he speaks English, but he doesn't say
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  Speaker 1: like nonnati, it's trust nobody like that in those exact words,
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  Speaker 1: like in English, trust nobody. And when I'm leaving he
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  Speaker 1: goes yes, and I'm like sea Poppy, trust nobody, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And so I already know what he's getting at. And
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  Speaker 1: it's and it's like, you know, his way of like
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  Speaker 1: protecting me and being like remember like all these things
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  Speaker 1: that I've taught to you, like you can't trust anybody.
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  Speaker 1: So I think for me, it's really I think it's
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  Speaker 1: a really interesting place that, um, that are a connection
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  Speaker 1: that I have with any type of bruhidia or ancestral
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  Speaker 1: knowledge is through my father. Um. But then the women
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  Speaker 1: and fems that I've conjured with obviously our women and
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  Speaker 1: fem centered but who has. But my connection to any
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  Speaker 1: type of spiritual spirituality outside of like the religious norm
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  Speaker 1: is through my father. So I think that that is
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  Speaker 1: really that's a really interesting connection that I didn't really
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  Speaker 1: think about until now now that I like having a
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  Speaker 1: conversation with you. I'm like, oh, that's interesting because you
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  Speaker 1: know my mom she um, she was born in Mano
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  Speaker 1: Um but pretty much grew up here UM. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't think she has that she's aware of, doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: any type of connection or doesn't practice any type of
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  Speaker 1: UM indigenous spirituality or any type of you know that happens.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like you said, those fragments, UM, we definitely
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  Speaker 1: practice in the in what we can remember, what we
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  Speaker 1: can gather through people that we know, through what we learned,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a lot of it is in fragments, right, UM.
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  Speaker 1: So that's you know, she respects any type of practices
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  Speaker 1: that I do, UM, and she respects that she asked questions.
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  Speaker 1: So it's an interesting exchange with my mother and I
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  Speaker 1: have where she doesn't necessarily um t to me per
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  Speaker 1: se um. But we're we're both learning together in a way.
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  Speaker 1: So that's really nice. That's nice. That's beautiful. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: really nice. And she asked questions. You know, when she
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  Speaker 1: sees my dad, she's like, so what is that? What
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  Speaker 1: are you doing? It's going on? Like and she'll just
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  Speaker 1: like randomly walk by when she sees me letting it Relia,
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  Speaker 1: She'll be like, okay, so it's like it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a joke, but it's kind of serious at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So she gets it, and it's nice that
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  Speaker 1: she can respect it, even though she may not understand
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  Speaker 1: it or connect to it completely, but she gets it.
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  Speaker 1: That's great. And I am so interested in what you
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  Speaker 1: just said about, you know, your father as a as
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  Speaker 1: a man right and as a man of color, like
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  Speaker 1: seeking some type of spiritual guidance from a fem a healer,
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  Speaker 1: which is so interesting because for Catholics, which so many
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  Speaker 1: Latinos come from a Catholic background, and even if you're
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  Speaker 1: not from a Catholic background, if you're from some type
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  Speaker 1: of a Christian background, it's likely that the church leaders
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  Speaker 1: are going to be men exactly either exclude civilly are
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  Speaker 1: predominantly right. And so I come from a Catholic background also,
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  Speaker 1: and so all the church leaders are or men, the
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  Speaker 1: people who are allowed and ordained and allowed to actually
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  Speaker 1: like touch the sacrament and perform the ritual or men.
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  Speaker 1: So it's so interesting that he goes to a woman
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  Speaker 1: for that additional that outside what he's not getting, and
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  Speaker 1: it's it's interesting too to me that like where I live,
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  Speaker 1: which is the Pico Union area of l A, which
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  Speaker 1: is predominantly Central American and very very very strong like
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  Speaker 1: religious community. So on Pico Boulevard you will see two
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  Speaker 1: churches on every block, three churches and very active and
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  Speaker 1: there's always a service going on, especially on a Friday night,
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  Speaker 1: a Saturday night, that's where the community is at church.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time you have two to three
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  Speaker 1: churches on every block, but you also have a botanica
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  Speaker 1: and every block it at the same time, same time,
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  Speaker 1: Pico Boulevard is full of botanicas. You Alvarado is full
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  Speaker 1: of botanicas. But so that's where you have that mix
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  Speaker 1: of like the ultra religious, but the Afro indigenous is there.
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  Speaker 1: That's so that's so beautiful and so um such a
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  Speaker 1: good example of like how resilience and how resilient our
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  Speaker 1: communities are because even though um Catholicism or Christianity is
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  Speaker 1: so rooted in our culture, that's really not something that
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  Speaker 1: you can escape. If you're Latino Latina Latin x Um,
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  Speaker 1: you can't really escape it. But at the same time
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  Speaker 1: you can see the pockets of resistance, like a botanica
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  Speaker 1: which even the botanica itself is mixed with like religious
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  Speaker 1: items exactly. And then also you can see things from
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  Speaker 1: the African diaspora as well. Absolutely, there's there's a botanica
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  Speaker 1: in Pico Union again, which is predominantly Central American, and
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  Speaker 1: it's called Botanica ya Ya, right, and so yama Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you think of yama Ya in terms of like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like global like African diasporic like Santeria, right or Gandombla
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  Speaker 1: or you know, and so and she is really associated
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  Speaker 1: as this like feminine goddess energy having to do with
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  Speaker 1: the ocean and with water. And her color is yellow.
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  Speaker 1: But you see both and Pico Union, which I think
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  Speaker 1: is so interesting and so cool. You know that she's
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  Speaker 1: embraced in that way. Um. And then yeah, like you're
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  Speaker 1: saying about the Catholic Church, like it would if I
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  Speaker 1: were to completely try to extract myself from Catholicism or
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  Speaker 1: the Catholic calendar, then I would be excluding myself from
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  Speaker 1: a lot of my own cultural activities because they're so
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  Speaker 1: intertwined that I must sort of negotiate that relationship. And
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  Speaker 1: that's an interesting one that we we do negotiate. Um. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I for for that exact reason, I don't identify as Catholic,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of my cultural practices, uh can can
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  Speaker 1: come back to this kind of calendar, like you said, right,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of our our family get togethers are
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  Speaker 1: also centered around this type of calendar, This revolve around,
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  Speaker 1: evolve around it. And I mean, you know, obviously for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of different Latinos we can talk about which
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  Speaker 1: is like kind of for me as a Chicana, I
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  Speaker 1: consider the other those mortals to be that sort of
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  Speaker 1: like epitome of Catholicism needs the indigenous, yes, which is
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about it in that way
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  Speaker 1: because that's how it's manifested, you know. It's it's like
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  Speaker 1: I don't I can't really imagine like like Vatican City,
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  Speaker 1: like the Vatican, like you know, all the folks over there,
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  Speaker 1: all those men really understanding, you know, well, what is this?
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  Speaker 1: I love the other because it's so it's such a
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  Speaker 1: prime example of what we remember and what remained post colonization,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because hundreds and hundreds of years later, it's
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  Speaker 1: still being practiced and it's it's a known tradition, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And and while the history of it, like maybe it
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  Speaker 1: gets mixed. You know. I was talking actually with no
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  Speaker 1: one from Shotmi Viva. Um. We were actually having this
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  Speaker 1: conversation because she was space painting at an event and
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  Speaker 1: she was like hearing conversations of you know, people that
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  Speaker 1: she was reading as Latino, maybe Mexican, maybe Chicano. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and they when they were telling their children about what
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  Speaker 1: the others Montos is, it was it wasn't right, it
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  Speaker 1: was incorrect, you know. Um. So even though not everyone
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  Speaker 1: may know the actual history or no, the actual historical origins. Yes, um,
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  Speaker 1: it's something being practiced um. And then something that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people can partake in. And no, it is
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  Speaker 1: not Halloween. It's not Halloween. It is not like Mexican
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  Speaker 1: Halloween or whatever. People Halloween. Yeah know that. And not
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  Speaker 1: only Mexicans, right, so not really Mexicans celebrated. I think
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  Speaker 1: probably every Latin American country might have their own take
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  Speaker 1: their own version. Yeah. I will say that when I
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  Speaker 1: was in bed or two years ago, I went to
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  Speaker 1: a a cemetery on Theos and it was so beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: It was what was it like? Tell us? It was
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  Speaker 1: so beautiful? It was um, definitely it was in in Lima.
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  Speaker 1: It was in maybe like an like an hour like
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  Speaker 1: outside of the center of Lima centro um. And it
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  Speaker 1: was interesting because it's like a cemetery but also like
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  Speaker 1: in a neighborhood at the same time. And it was
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  Speaker 1: like very traneous, like you had to of course, like
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  Speaker 1: it was very hilly, um and there were just tombstones everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: but then you look over and there's like houses, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and really the only way to get into is like
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  Speaker 1: byo by foot or by a moto taxi. Um. So
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  Speaker 1: that was really interesting to see, like the way literally
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  Speaker 1: folks or communities are like living among you know, the
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  Speaker 1: remains of like a left one, you know. So that's
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  Speaker 1: really interesting. Um. And it was definitely it was for me.
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  Speaker 1: It was like a mix of a lot of feelings obviously,
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  Speaker 1: like in the tradition of these mentals were celebrating folks
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  Speaker 1: that we've loved and you know, they made longer be
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  Speaker 1: with us, but we're remembering them. So it's definitely a
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  Speaker 1: mix of feeling sad, right because you missed someone, and
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  Speaker 1: also feeling like not content, but feeling sweet and feeling
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  Speaker 1: like loving because you remember them and you you were
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  Speaker 1: able to love them and they were able to love you,
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  Speaker 1: right um So it was definitely like a mix of
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  Speaker 1: a mix of emotions. Um yeah, the little moncess is great,
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  Speaker 1: it's great. And then I think of like just the
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  Speaker 1: fact that there are so many Latinos. And then again
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  Speaker 1: like from the from like a you know, like a
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  Speaker 1: Mexicana Chicana perspective, like we have this like tradition. We're like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, going to the cemetery like once a week.
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  Speaker 1: It's very normal. It's so normal for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: families when hanging out at the sement. I was about
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  Speaker 1: to say that hanging out on the grave. Yeah. When
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  Speaker 1: I was young, you know, I never got to meet
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  Speaker 1: my maternal grandmother. Um So, my grandfather and I were
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  Speaker 1: so close. We were like he was basically my father
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  Speaker 1: growing up. Um So, once a week he would take
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: me to see my grandma, you know, and we would
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: like have lunch there and we would talk and the
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: day and we would spend the day there. You know.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: He would pick me up from school and we would
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: go and this was in a Rose Hills and Whittier,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: So on our way or on our way back, we
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: would like stop because there's the whereas. So they're like
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a strawberry field, you know, so we would stop and
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: we would buy like a like and then we would
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: like go go back home, you know, and that was
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: like our weekly thing together. Um. So even that like
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: there's I guess death is so intertwined with our culture
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, they're definitely the way
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: death is perceived manifest differently in Latin America than it
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: does here in the U S. I agree. And even
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: just like aesthetically, like a cemetery in Latin America is
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: like a site. It is so beautiful. Yeah, like I've
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: been to. I was in Mexico City once when I
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: was in high school, and the cemetery is over there
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: are so beautiful and ornate and colorful. I was in
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Guatemala in when was it was recently? Yeah, in like
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: May of this year in and Um I wasn't Antigua,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: and we went to a cemetery there in out right
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: outside of Antigua in like the mountains, and oh my god,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: that cemetery was so beautiful, you know, and you can
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: just see that like a Latin American servants cemetery. You
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: know that there are always people, there's there's always fresh flowers,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: there's food, and you don't see that here. It's it's
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: like a place, it's like a site to like mourn
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: in a way, you know what I mean. And I
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: think here, a lot of cemeteries are far away. You
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: have to travel to go visit your loved ones where
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: maybe you know, in Latin America, the cemetery is in
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the middle of the neighborhood or it's closed, so it's
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: not a big deal to go visit you know, Grandma,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Grandpa wherever you're visiting after church or whatever it is.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think our connection with death is very unique. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: You know, my my mom and my my mother now,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: they like are very open about death, Like they always
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: talk about like when when I die, and and this
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff that maybe you don't want to hear
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: your mom talk about. You know, no one wants to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: think about their mother not being here, right or their
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: loved one not being here. Um, but my family is
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: very open about it. You know. My mom is like,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: you know what, I have my funeral paid off. I
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: have a list of what I want. I'm doing it
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: like I'm getting it big, like when last time, you know,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And she's like, I have my list of songs and
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: everything and this is my explanation for each song. And
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that's also beautiful because it's like she took She's like,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I recognize this is going to be impossible for you,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: so I'm like taking the time to plan this all
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: out to make it easier for you. So once again,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: you know, being set right. I know it's it's too much,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: but it's sweet in that like morbid exactly, it's such
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: a morbid thing, but it's such a Latino thing and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: kind of dark. Absolutely it is what it is. My
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: grandma walks around and she, oh my god, like she
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: does things like I remember once she was putting on
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: like someple so like she was cooking, and then she
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: was like talking about she was happy with it, happy
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: the way it was coming out. And then she just
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: everyone's in a good wound and she casually goes, who knows,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: maybe this is the last Sola I'll ever make. I
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: died tomorrow, that is, And that is such a common
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: thing to say, I know, I might be dead tomorrow.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: My mom's all the time, or my Momdina, like they'll
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: say things like that, you know, like, well maybe I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: won't be here next year. Yeah, you know my mom,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: you know, she loves to decorate, like for holidays. You know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: today we're recording at my house, so you can see
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: like the Halloween decorations everywhere everywhere. So for like Christmas
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and you know, those kinds of holidays, She'll be like like,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: in case I'm going to here next year, like this
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: is where it is, because I'm gonna want you to
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: decorate like I do. Um, okay, mo, I'm sure you know. Yeah,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: and yeah, it's a very morbid thing. But death is
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: you know, it's we can't avoid it, right, yeah, like
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: our loved ones. And so definitely I think, like, because
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: that whole attitude that we have towards dead is so
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: different from a US attitude, I have to believe that
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: it's connected to the ancestor even if we don't, you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: in one way, like there's a there's like a feeling
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: that you have around it, right that you can't really
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: explain or maybe you don't know why, but you know
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: that it's there. You know that it's there. And I
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: definitely think agree with you that it's like an ancestral connection.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. So I think maybe what we can
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: do now is get into our song break. Yes, you
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: totally read my mind. So I think I've been realizing
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: this lately. We are always in sync of it and
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: little ship. What we want to do now is talk
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: about our favorite more is our favorite bru has online
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: doing it talking about their womanism, their feminism and the
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: bruia and how it works together. I think Princess Nokia
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: is one of those people who is one of my
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: favorite online bru has. But I know you also that
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: you have a lot of online bru has that you
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: really love. I do. I shout out to all the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: online brujas. Y'all have been really um teaching me and
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: helping me in my process of learning and learning. So definitely,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: probably one of the first people that I followed in
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: this realm of like brujas and feminists would be The
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Hood which so at the Hood which on Instagram she
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: is so fabulous. She really like so she's an online shop.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: She's also a blog, and she sells crystals and cords
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and all these different like things that we need, you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: in our brua kids, in our having our out that
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: you know, must have. Maybe we'll make a list of
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: like our must haves. Yeah, so she is. I think
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: now it's like a like a team of people, you know.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: But she's definitely like the founder um the hood, which
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: she said that her name came from her grandmother, like
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and being in like the barrio, being in like the hood.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: It's like the hood, which you know. So I love that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: That's so dope. She's like so tatted, and she has
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: just like total fem aesthetic femals, you know, like she
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: got the law nails. She always has like a fabulous set.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: She got the stiletto nails also good. She posted about
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: like she'll talk about like the healing powers of this
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: a certain crystal and like the energy that it carries
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and maybe why you need it in your life and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: so really breaking things down for you. Um. And then
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: she also will talk about literature, you know, books that
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that she has in her in her library right or
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that you can even find on her store, and maybe
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: why you need it, um in your library. So I
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: really like that. It's it's like it's very aesthetically pleasing
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: her her Instagram, UM, but it's also very informative and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of knowledge being shared. UM. So I
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: really like her. She's super dope. She's really intersectional. She
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I want to say, she's also a fil Latina. I
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm making the assumption, um, but I feel like
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I saw something somewhere where she she posted about that
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: her identity. Yeah, definitely one of my faiths. She's great,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: She's really awesome. And there are so many, but I mean,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: like I don't even know who to talk about next.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I mean there's, for example, there's La Loba Loca who
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I first started following La Loba Loca on Tumbler and
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and La Loba like everything that that that they put
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: together right is all focused and centered on a Wilita
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: knowledge and on indigenous knowledge and healing, and so La
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Loba I appreciate because like what they contribute, the range
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: is so wide. So everything from like womb wellness to
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: making your own moon paths, you know, handmade tom learning
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: how to use different types of herbs and plants to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: make you know your oils and your tinctures and your
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: teas and your vaginal steams, you know. And La Loba
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: really focuses on on feminine health and wellness and wellness
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: from like a bruka, from a bru perspective, from a
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: South American indigenous perspective, which is so important, which is
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: so valuable and I love that Laba really centers that
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: idea of abulita knowledge because again the things that people
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: tell us that that's just a superstition, well no, that's
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: knowledge exactly. That is not being recognized as knowledge, is
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: being recognized as a superstition. Right. And then similar to
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: La Loba Loca, I really like um you know, lass
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and are mostly I think centered here in l A.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: And the first time that I got, you know, acquainted
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: with them in their work was they would put together
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: these um full moon circles and I went to one
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: with my friend um Don seeing shout out to the
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: local artist here in l A. We'll have around the
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: show one day, So me and um Thna we went
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: to a full moon circle at the In East l A,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: there's this kind of plasa where they have the big
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: round you know, image of oil SHACKI, the goddess essentially
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: who fell from the skies and chatter her body shattered
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: into a million pieces. So in East l A there's
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: this plaza where they have the big I don't even
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: know what you call it, but her image. And so
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the moms organized this full moon circle. Um and we
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: sat around coil Shaky and it was very much just
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: like sharing energy, sharing intentions be so beautiful. Um and
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I know that you have others that you really like.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, this list is so long. It's long,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and this isn't even all of them right now. Yeah,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: mohead is amazed, so dope, and that moon circle sounds beautiful.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: It is beautiful. I think that they still still do that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I saw one that they had one I think like
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: a week like the last full moon toil, like a
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: week ago. Right. Um. Yeah, I've never been, but I
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: would love to check that out. We should go, should go?
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Does the full moon circle? Yes, let's do it. Next one,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. And I love I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: just love that, like you can connect any element of
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: our world and you can find its feminine connections. It's
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: not that the feminine connections don't exists. I'm just not
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: looking from thus. Like being intentional and spending time underneath
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the full moon. That's so beautiful, you know. Yeah. I
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: have my own full moon rituals that I do on
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: my own, but to be in community, like I would
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: love to do that absolutely. Um So going on to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the next person we have on our that we want
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: to highlight Um, that's she is a different type of
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: because she creates art, so she creates jewelry, so they're
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: all from natural stones. I'm actually wearing one right now.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: It's my Rose Courts ring that I love. And Um.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: She shared something the other day on on her Instagram
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: that really resonated with me and what I'm going through
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: at the moment in my life. So I'm just gonna
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: read it. It's a it's just a text image of
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: quote I used to I used to think, which is
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: cast spells over people. Now I understand the true which
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: is work only to gain power over themselves. They work
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: to accomplish self mastery, to achieve healing, wisdom, compassion, and freedom,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and to liberate themselves from the constraints that the world
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: or their upbringing have trapped them in. Magic is part
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: of this process of self awareness and liberation. Yeah, that's amazing.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's amazing. That really resonated with me and
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: the bruhida that I'm trying to do. Right, it's not
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: there's such a negative association with bruhidia and being a
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: bruha um, but it's it's magic making and it's healing,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: and it's personal and it's claiming and exercising your own power.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Even if that power is not considered legitimate or recognized
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: by the powers that be, I still have it and
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I'm still exercise exactly. So just looking at her Instagram
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: right now, her bio is so adorable. It's God goddess
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: things for God goddesses have made healing arts. UM and
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: she's really right. UM. She I met her or I
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: heard of her actually through some other in the fem
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: community that I'm in. UM. They wear her jewelry. And
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: then I stumbled upon her Instagram because she was tagged
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: in something UM and she's super great. I told her
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: what I what I wanted, you know, I told her, like,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I want something Rose Courts and I want something amethyst.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: So we talked about it and she was like, Okay,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I this feels right, like this is what I'm going
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: to make you. This feels like what you need and yeah,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: and it was a conversation. You know. It's she does
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: have an Etsy shop, so you can do that kind
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: of like click to buy um or you can have
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: a conversation with her because it is because everything is
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: custom made, made to order. It's not like this isn't
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: fucking forever twenty one, you know, like she's not gonna
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: have something readily available. So we talked about it and
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I told her what I wanted and it was beautiful,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you know, and it was that kind of we were
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: having an exchanging energy in that way, even though it
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: was online, you know. And then yeah, it was an exchange. Um,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: you know, supporting a fem artist, fem Bruja of Color
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: and her work is just so amazing. So really I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: encourage you all to check it out. Um she has rings, um,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: ear rings, bracelets, a ton of things. I think that's
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: also something like that's so cool is so many of
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the people that we're talking about not only are their
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: feminists or womanist mustas there, but they're also entrepreneurs. And
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I think that talking about like the quote that you
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: just read about you know, having mastery over yourself, harnessing
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: your own power, I mean power in this world also
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: means you know, economic power, you know, harnessing your own
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: ability to generate income and serve and feed yourself and survive.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's so important because if we're talking about
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: spirituality or bruer, I think it's not just feeding our souls,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: but like our bodies and making sure that we're good. UM.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: And somebody else that I love that I'm going to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: talk about a lot on this podcast is about Dominican
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: um Zida Kelly right. Um. Dominica is a demand nickin
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Afro Indigenous artists, critical thinker, social critic. She's everything, she's everything,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: She's everything everything, She's awesome and UM, I have learned
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: so much from her about myself, about racial hierarchies within
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Latin America, within um fem communities. UM. She has brought
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: so many people together, whether intentionally or not, because she
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: has created a space that was not there before where
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: she centers um Fem Afro Indigenous experiences and power and
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: love and bodies and all those beautiful things. And something
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: that's so interesting to me is the way that bad
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Dominicana will talk about, you know, parts of life that
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: one might not automatically associate with with spirituality or with
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: indigenous practices. Like I remember she had this series of
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: tweets and she you know, she is a prolific twitter.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: She there's a lot she that she has so much content,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: so much knowledge there and I could go on and on,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: but I remember since we're talking about Bruheia and you
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: know spirituality, Indigenous Afro Indigenous spirituality. I remember that there
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: was a series of tweets that she did where she
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: talked about how our idea of like parties, the way
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: that parties are set up today actually have very Afro
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Indigenous roots, because if you think about what do we
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: do in in the US today to have a good
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: time to have a party, well, usually dim lighting, dark lighting,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: loud music with really loud bass underneath, dancing together in groups,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and drinking or smoking weed are taking mind altering substances, right,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And so she was basically breaking it down and saying, well,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: if you really look like back in the day, back
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: in the day, I don't think you necessarily had, you know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: like the Spanish and the British, we're getting down like that.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: But if you think about what we know about African
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: and Indigenous like ways of celebrating, drums have heavy bass.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: You know, whether you're you're sharing your your pipe or whatever,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: your peyote or whatever it is, that whatever substance that
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: you're taking to induce your visions or your this or
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: your that. And then a lot of us dancing circles
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: like as amadon sante and so when we talk about
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: mischka or Aztec dancing, all of that is done in
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: a circle with sage burning and with heavy, heavy drums
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the whole time. And so I thought that that was
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: so interesting because she's looking at these things that we
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: do every day that we don't even recognize that we're
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: participating in something that is ancestral. So after I read
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: those tweets, I was like, well, I'm gonna go party
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: all the time then, because this is ancestral, but you know,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I mean reclaiming it. So I love about Dominicana so well,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I'll talk about her more in the future because there's
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: just so much there. And then another person that I
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: really love is in the her Mama. Yes, and you
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: know of Indie Mamma's work. I would love to go
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: to a womb wellness work. Yes, that maybe that I'm
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: going to put that into the university. You know what
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: we want you on as we do. If you if
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: you're listening, if you hear us, come find us, come
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: find will come find you. Yeah, a womb well this
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: workshop would be amazing. Yeah, And that's what Indie her
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Mamma does. She does a lot of focus on womb
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: wellness and even like exercises to make sure your pelvic
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: floor is strong, you know, and womb massages and home
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: births and all that great stuff because as women and
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: as women of color, we know historically there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of violence towards us and our wounds. Yes specifically, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this actually, um a few weeks ago,
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  Speaker 1: because I this is actually is in reference to another
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  Speaker 1: blueha I follow on Instagram, but she shared that she
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  Speaker 1: um uses a Yoni egg. So that is like a
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  Speaker 1: crystal that you and you can, you know, select whichever
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  Speaker 1: crystal was right for you, right um, and depending on
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the energy that you need, and you're starting searching for
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  Speaker 1: in the healing um, so she uses a Yoni egg.
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  Speaker 1: And then I started thinking about like the violence that
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  Speaker 1: I've experienced and how my body remembers like violence you
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  Speaker 1: know that has been inflicted upon me, especially like in
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  Speaker 1: my womanhood, right um. And you know what kind of
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  Speaker 1: healing needs to be done in that way. So that's
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  Speaker 1: what I really like about. In the him Mamma and
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  Speaker 1: other another Buddha are talking about boom. You know, so
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  Speaker 1: much of that energy is taken from us and and
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  Speaker 1: we think that maybe we're like we're recharging, we were
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  Speaker 1: putting ourselves back together, but our body still remembers that
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  Speaker 1: trauma is still has been absorbed, right, Yeah. And I
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  Speaker 1: think of focusing for women of color, for Indigenous women,
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  Speaker 1: to focus on our wounds is so powerful because I
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  Speaker 1: think about this documentary that just came out recently about
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  Speaker 1: the the women the mohea is here in l A
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  Speaker 1: who were forcibly staring lives or sterilized without their knowledge.
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  Speaker 1: And then I think of African American women, black women
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  Speaker 1: who also went through for sterilization right or not being
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  Speaker 1: told they were being sterilized, and that violence towards shutting
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  Speaker 1: down the womb of the woman of color or you know,
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  Speaker 1: depleting our body of resources that we need, or you know,
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  Speaker 1: forcing us to have children that we don't want to have. Right,
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  Speaker 1: there's all this historical violence towards the indigenous woman, the
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  Speaker 1: black woman's womb. So for us in sixteen to intentionally
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  Speaker 1: take care of our wombs ourselves, I think it's so incredible.
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  Speaker 1: That's so beautiful, that's so powerful. There's so much like
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  Speaker 1: Bruehidia magic making and that you know, conjuring all that
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  Speaker 1: type of good light, for your womb, for your wound,
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  Speaker 1: for yourself, for yourself, for yourself, for your being, so
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  Speaker 1: that we can go on and on. And I think
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: what we'll do is maybe we'll list our favorite online brujans,
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  Speaker 1: will list them on our Instagram on a post so
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  Speaker 1: that you guys can go check out all these amazing
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  Speaker 1: mohaes that we've just been talking about, get your life,
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  Speaker 1: get your womanism, get all in one spot. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's what we'll do. And what we wanted to
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: to basically let you guys know is that our next episode, uh, yes,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: our our third radio, we're going to be introducing you
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: guys to the Mommy Collective. Yes, and the Mommy Collective
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  Speaker 1: is a group that we're a part of, the OSA
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  Speaker 1: and I and it's a group of moheras here in
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  Speaker 1: l A but also in Florida, um in Nashville. We're
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  Speaker 1: all over the place that we're artists and writers and activists, feminists, poets.
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna introduce you guys to all those ladies
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  Speaker 1: um during our third and then we wanted to invite
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  Speaker 1: you guys to share with us your stories about Bruheria. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: how have you reclaimed that term for you. What are
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  Speaker 1: some of the spiritual practices that you engage in and
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  Speaker 1: maybe if there's been any pushback, you know, any folks
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  Speaker 1: telling you that you shouldn't be doing that, but you
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  Speaker 1: do it anyway because you're and you do what you
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  Speaker 1: want exactly. So you know, go over to our Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: to our Instagram page and we'll put up a post
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: related to this, related to the online brew. So go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and comment, tag us hashtag log though our radio
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: um and let us know. And if you aren't online
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  Speaker 1: bruja that we didn't shout you out yet because there's
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: so many, please introduce yourself to us or tell us
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  Speaker 1: who your favorite online bruja is. Yes, we have a
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  Speaker 1: list of that we really like, like Mala said, and
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  Speaker 1: we couldn't get to everybody. Yeah, so we know that
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  Speaker 1: there are so many more out there, so shout out
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  Speaker 1: to all of you and making our online space is safe,
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  Speaker 1: putting that stage on our timeline. Thank you, Thank you radio.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, so so we'll see you next We'll see
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  Speaker 1: you next time. Thank you for listening. Thank you for listening.
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