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Defining Times For Card Collectors - Turn Back The Clock · Sports Card Clubhouse

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Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Turn Back the
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Clock. Me.
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Wait, my name is Dylan and my Co host name is Adam.
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Adam, how's it going? Good.
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We're a little rusty and I got one of these.
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I'm like a airline pilot now. I got one of these things with a
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microphone, built in headphones. I sound a little weird to
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myself, but hopefully I sound OK on the mic here.
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I'm going to try this out because I move around when I
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talk. I guess it's the Italian in me
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or something. I'm very animated so I don't do
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as well with like a stationary mic.
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So I'm gonna try this and I can move around and the mic stays
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with me. So we'll see.
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I kind of figured sports card clubhouse force you into
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purchasing one. Yeah, It's like booted, yeah.
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We'll see how this goes, but yeah, it's it's good to see you
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again. You haven't done a video in for
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you at least a while. What's going on over there?
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Yeah, I spent like, I don't know, probably more than a
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couple weeks or about a couple weeks.
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I kind of, you know, I, I have a lot of thoughts, a lot of
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things, you know, about the hobby I wanted to talk with you
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about in general, because we don't get to talk.
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I, I know a lot of people might think that we're talking on the
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phone all the time or texting each other, but you don't text
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very many people at all. You have like you might shoot
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out in Group texts and stuff. You might have some other texts
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going on. And I, I have a couple friends
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that I text with and a couple group chats, but I'm not that
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like, you know, I'm either here or I'm doing something else.
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So it's kind of how the hobby is for me too.
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My hobby space is, it's a, it used to be a private space for
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me, right? You would, I would do my own
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thing, you know, for all those years before YouTube, you know,
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my whole life. And now that YouTube is on air,
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it's kind of opened up, obviously opened up a new world.
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But I really miss talking with you, Adam and I miss our time
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together. And I know it's, you know, we
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used to do these a lot more, but I don't feel like I don't, it's,
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it's because we'll text each other, we'll set one up.
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You know, we've set a couple of these up over the last month or
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maybe it's been two months since we've done one and then one of
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us will cancel at the last minute.
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Life gets in the way a lot. And it's not that we don't want
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to talk to each other and talk about cards and I don't, it's
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not like I don't want to do videos for myself.
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But there's a lot going on in life and sometimes you just want
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to play with your cards by yourself and organize your cards
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and do things by yourself. And there's so much content to
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consume that I find myself just turning on, you know, turning on
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sports card clubhouse and just, I could play it for like 5 hours
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straight. Greg's got a video every day
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that's an hour long. And I, and I, I swear I listen
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to every single video except for the community pickups.
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Because if I don't know you, I've never met you.
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I don't care about your collection.
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I, I don't care about it. It means nothing to me if I know
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you or you comment or we become, you know, close.
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It's like going to a card show and there's like museum set up.
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I don't care. I don't even want to look at
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those cards. I don't want to look at cards
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that aren't for sale. I don't want to look at someone
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else's cards that I have no idea who you are.
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But if I meet you and you know, you share your collection,
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that's a totally different thing.
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And then I'm totally in. But yeah, I just I, I miss
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talking with you. So yeah, any, anything going on
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in your collecting brain as of seen us since the last time we
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talked. Well, I watched same with you.
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I've, I've, I've been consuming a lot of, you know, YouTube
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videos and podcasts and I've been enjoying that.
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I I saw one this morning. I was driving around this
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morning and listening to professor sports cards had a
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bunch of guys on. He had John Mangini, Chris from
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car ladder, Chris Sewell, sponsor of sports card clubhouse
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here, a bunch of guys, Mike Geo. It was a good group and yeah,
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they were just talking about the hobby and I don't know, have you
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seen that one yet? It just came out.
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Today. I haven't seen that one yet.
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It was good. It was a good one.
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In my all honesty, I have I it's like you go through phases and
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right now I'm in the phase of no hobby drama channels.
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I haven't watched any of this any of his videos.
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I haven't watched any of the Super like any of that stuff.
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I'm just completely out of it right now.
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And like I say, I like drama sometimes it's fun, but right
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now this stage I'm completely out of it.
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So I will go back and listen to that because Mangini did say he
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was going to be on and then Greg was going to be on at some
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point. So I'll definitely go back and
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watch my friends. But right now I could care less
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about that type of content. I don't care about the hobby
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breaks. I don't care about the talk
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about all this other garbage in the industry, but like I say,
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sometimes I have a fun time. But right now I'm totally out of
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it. Don't care about it.
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Funny thing, I'm going to show a card here that I was thinking
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about this morning because I was talking to you before we started
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recording here. My mom stayed over our house
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last night, right, that she had an issue at her place that she
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lives at, so she stayed over. We had a fun time and one of the
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things we did is we got this old VCR and we have all these old
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VHS home videos that you know my dad made was it night.
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This one we watched was from 1989.
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So I was 8 years old and you know my dad had one of those
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Cam, not a camcorder. It was like one of those huge
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video recorders. You literally put a tape in the
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thing and it's like weighed 100 lbs on your shoulder and walked
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around where they put your finger in it like that.
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So, you know, he was just walking around the house with
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it. And then I took it and I did.
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It's me when I was 8 years old or yeah, 8 years old.
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And I'm going through my room and I'm, I'm just walking around
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showing like with my little like, hi, I'm Adam, you know,
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walking around with my camera and I'm seeing the posters on my
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wall. And this is so weird because
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like, I hadn't, I remember my room, but this is actually,
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whoa, I forgot about this. I had a so I had a Babe Ruth
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poster on my wall, right. And I was like, Oh my God, now I
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know why I bought this card, the Sanella Margarine 1932 Babe
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Ruth, because I had this poster on my wall when I was a kid and
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I didn't put it together. But I was like, when I first
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found out about this card, I was like, I love that photo.
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I mean, it's a great photo, but something, it was something else
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there. And I now I'm putting it
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together like, yeah, you had this on your wall when you were
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a kid. Obviously you you should get
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this card. So I've been looking at this
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today and I love this car, man. It's for those that care about
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the grade. It's PSA 3, but look how nicely
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centered it is. And I just, I've been looking at
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it because I love. It hold on that this all
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completely blows my mind. First I tell my wife all the
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time if I could do anything in life it would be to walk into my
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old childhood bedroom. It's like that one movie where
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they did the old video game Ready Player 1, where you can go
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virtual reality and go into your old bedroom and stuff.
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I can't believe that you have video of your old childhood
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room. My dad also had a camcorder and
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I turned all those old things into DVDs like 15 years ago or
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something. I sent them somewhere and they
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turn them into DVDs, but I don't have any of my room.
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I'm so freaking jealous of that. And I always wondered why you
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picked that Sanella for your favorite Babe Ruth.
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Because to me, it's it's kind of a card.
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It's kind of not a card. It's probably my absolute last
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choice Babe Ruth I'd ever own. Not that the image isn't insane,
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but now that you add that story, now it just it's Ultra's.
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That's crazy dude. Yeah.
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And oh, man, just, And I've only cracked the surface on these
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videos. Like there's a whole row of
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these tapes that I haven't seen in a long, long time, so little
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by little starting to go through them.
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And yeah, it's just weird. I had a Mike Greenwald poster on
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the wall next to a Babe Ruth poster, and then Mickey Mantle
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and Larry Bird and, oh, man, it was just very cool seeing it.
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The only thing is, you get, like, motion sickness watching
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those old videos. Yeah, at least I do because I'm
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old. Yeah.
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So I'm like, I had to take a break from watching because I
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feel like I just got off a roller coaster watching me walk
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around with the camera. I would love, I know you're not
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doing videos, but I would personally love if you could
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kind of clip some of those, find out how you can get to that and
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put it on your channel. Do a 5 minute video of little
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Adam video in his room and the Sanella poster.
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You know the the photo and man, I would eat that up.
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That would mean a lot to me as a friend to see that your old
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childhood bedroom, that would blow my mind.
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I got to do that, Yeah. Because there's a way, like you
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said, you could digitize those old VH s s and then I can be
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easy, you know, be easy to share from there.
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So, yeah, it was a good walk down memory lane looking at
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those old videos. And it is strange, like, you
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know, there's videos of my grandparents.
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And it's one thing to like, Remember, Remember your
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grandparents, but like we're the first generation or or two that
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can actually go back and like watch a video of, of their
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grandparents, you know, from 30 years ago.
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And it's like, it's great. But it's also a little like,
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whoa, this is weird. You know this is crazy. 100%
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yeah. I actually get my old photos,
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you know, of my childhood bedroom and things like that.
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And I have the scope that I use to the loop.
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I use to look at my cards and I look all around my bedroom and
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see what's in there. It's, I don't know if you guys
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have ever done that with photos, old photos.
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You take a loop to those photos and you see the coolest stuff in
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the background. It's like, 'cause you know, you
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could also take a photo of it on your phone and zoom in like
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that. But I like getting in on the
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loop and I eat that up. Man, that's insane, Adam.
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I love it. Yeah, so I've been doing that
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and again, another video I watched recently that I wanted
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to mention, which was, which is good because we're on the sports
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card clubhouse and one of the people who are nice enough to
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sponsor this channel was Chris Sewell.
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And I see, I watch a lot of his videos now and one of the one of
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the videos he did recently, it was 1.
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He talks about a collection that he bought and within the
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collection, I don't know if you saw this one, but there was a it
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was a Bobby, I think it was Bobby Jones, Bobby Jones golf
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cart. That was I think it was APSA 10,
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like rookie card or something like that.
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I'm probably getting some of it wrong.
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But the point is he didn't realize what it was worth and
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neither did the person who sold the collection.
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So it was, you know, decent sized collection.
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And when he sent it off to an auction house or fanatics or
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whatever it was to sell it, they give a value on what those are,
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you know, when they auction it off.
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And it turned out that like the Bobby Jones card was worth
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thousands and thousands of dollars.
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And so and he said he has a clause in when he buys a
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collection, he has a specific clause where if this type of
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thing happens, where there's a card that neither the buyer or
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the seller knew was worth that much, it turns out it was, he
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will actually go back and pay that the seller more money.
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That's and you know, I recommend the video.
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I'll try to find a link and put it in this, but that's AI mean.
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Great example of a a dealer who is ethical.
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And I mean, how many dealers or sellers in this hobby do you
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think would have done that? You know, would have gone back
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and said, Hey, this is worth way more than I paid you.
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I don't think that many. So I, I thought I wanted to
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highlight that because I thought that was pretty cool.
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Yeah, I do. That's pretty stand up right
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there that that I really like Chris and now that he has the
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podcast I'm getting cuz I never watched his videos before cuz
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I'm a type of guy. I just, I don't really care
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about, It's not that I don't care about dealers as humans, I
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just don't care what dealers have to say.
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I've always talked about that because they're buying cards
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that have irrelevance to me and their thoughts are irrelevant to
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me as a collector because they're buying them to sell
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them. They're buying the flip, they're
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purchasing cards at prices that I, I don't care about anything
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that they really have to say. But Chris, on the other hand,
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I've been really loving that weekly podcast They're putting
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out him and Snowman. And I have had an incredible
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experience sending cards to CIA, sending like cards that I've
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always wanted to sell in Big Lots like, you know, 1955 Bowman
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huge, like 300 nineteen 58 tops, you know, I've had forever.
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And I just thinking like one day maybe I'll put the set together
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if I ever get into set building and I'm just going to sell them
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on. They put all these in lots and
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I've had such great experience. So I do watch all of their shows
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and that's kind of, you know, that's a topic I kind of had in
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my brain. But we won't go down that right
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now because we got some more things to say.
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But the whole dealer concept and dealers, you know, buying cards
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and then marking them up and buying them from each other like
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there's I think it's always been going on.
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But yeah, Needless to say, that's a cool story.
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I will go back and watch that for sure.
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Oh yeah, go ahead. Sorry.
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I I wanted to ask you, so you were in the PSA magazine and I
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was blown away. Now I don't have APSA membership
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anymore. I had it for one year and I was
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getting all the magazines and they're super cool.
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While you were in the magazine, you had like A7 page spread in
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there about your Tom Brady collection and you sent me
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photos of the magazine and then I zoomed in and I read.
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I read the entire article. It didn't die if my memory
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serves me. I read it like a month ago.
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It didn't dive into you personally too much.
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I felt like that was kind of lacking.
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I was really hoping that they would really pick your brain
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about your collecting experience and stuff, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Tell us about the article and maybe you have some insights and
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can share a little bit about it. Yeah, it they did AI mean it was
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funny because it came together very quickly.
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You know, the the guy did I think a great job.
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He reached out to me like he called me and I didn't realize
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that this was going to be like the one phone call they were
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going to use for the article. So I thought it was just like a
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quick thing. Yeah.
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So I wasn't really prepared, but turned out we did a phone call
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and just talked. And basically that turned into
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the article. Me, you know, So it was one time
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thing and yeah, it came out good.
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It was basically highlighting on the PSA set registry.
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I completed the Tom Brady Bass rookie set 44 cards and they did
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an article about that. It was December 2025 edition
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with Bo Jackson on the cover. So yeah, it was, it was cool.
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It was fun. I, I talked a little bit about
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myself, but a lot of it, you know, I, I wanted to, one of the
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things I wanted to, to do with that opportunity is to highlight
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the Pacific cards of the Brady 44.
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There's eleven of them. And I feel like those cards take
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a back seat to a lot of the other ones in the catalog.
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So I steered a lot of the conversation towards, you know,
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Pacific Brady rookie cards and I mentioned Mike Kramer and, you
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know, I kind of just steered things where I wanted it to go
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and highlight. I didn't really want to talk too
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much about myself. I wanted to talk more about
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collecting and the cards and Pacific Mike Kramer.
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And I was happy to hear I connected the Adam, his name was
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Adam from PSA with Mike Kramer after our article, because, you
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know, Mike's been on my channel before.
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So I had his information and I connected the two.
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And it turned out there's going to be another article because of
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that about Mike Kramer in, in Pacific cards in the, in an
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upcoming PSA magazine. So that for me that that was the
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coolest part about it because I'm not, you know, I'm not
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someone who wants to like, get my name out there, any of that
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stuff. I, I think I just told you, I
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haven't even told really anyone about it other than a few you
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guys, you know, like you and Greg and Mike.
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But yeah, I haven't really highlighted too much of it, but
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it was cool. I just, you know, it's nice.
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I like seeing collector content in the magazine because I think
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that is an area where I like to see more content.
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So it was fun, you know, and it's a cool little collector's
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piece. I have a few of the copies, you
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know, I, I get one in the mail and then I ordered a few other.
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There's like variation covers. So I ordered a couple different
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variation covers off of eBay. And so I got, you know, a
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handful of the, the, the magazines.
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And someday maybe, you know, I'll show my kids when they're a
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little older, the article or whatever.
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Yeah, something like. That I I think maybe what really
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struck me was there's no photo of you.
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I think I remember specifically going where.
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Why don't they have a photo of the collector here?
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I don't want any of that. I didn't even want to use my
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last name, honestly. I didn't want to just use
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Splendid. But they, you know, I think for
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article that you got to use someone's name.
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So I don't yeah, I didn't want any of that stuff.
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So. And don't get me wrong, it was a
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great, I mean, I was like AI, you know, being your friend.
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I was like so proud. I'm like, yeah, I, I, I mean, I
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know it's APSA magazine. Some people hate PSA, but PSA
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changed the way I collect baseball cards.
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I wouldn't be collecting cards if it wasn't for grading itself.
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So for me, I was really proud. I was really stoked to see the
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fact that they did have a collector on there and he was
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my, he's my friend from turn back the clock.
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I just, I was really freaking stoked and I wish I had the
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magazine cuz I would take a page and I'd frame it up and put it
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on my wall. Well, I'll give you 1 special.
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Day OK good I'll bring one cuz OK good you can get them on eBay
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like aftermarket for whatever couple 10 bucks or.
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Something dude, that's what I should do.
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I should just go buy one I. Don't know what I got, I got
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like 5 copies. I'll give you 1 when I see.
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You someday West Coast cartel. Yeah, You know what was
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interesting too with that article?
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You know, I sent them some pictures of the of the cards,
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you know, and a lot of them were already on the PSA website, so
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they just pulled the scans off. But a lot of the cards they use,
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like maybe 3 or 4 of them weren't the highest grade.
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You know, there's like PSA 5 Brady rookie in there.
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When I showed on this channel here, I crossed over a bunch of
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Beckett slabs. They actually highlighted those.
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So like, so, you know, showing a Beckett card, they didn't show
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this, but it was like a Beckett, you know, 8.5 that went down to
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A5 and they showed the five on the article.
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So it was kind of ironic, right? Like they didn't, I don't even
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think they put that together, but.
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And was that prior to them buying Beckett?
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I can't remember. It's probably right in the zone,
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right? Yeah, that's a good question.
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It might have been right around that time.
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I don't know. I don't know.
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Yeah, I'd have to look, but yeah, it was fun, you know, fun
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little thing. And like I said, it's cool to
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just have the magazine to show my, you know, family here and
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there, so. Look, who would have thought,
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you know, before you got on YouTube, all those years
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collecting, who would have ever thought you would have been in a
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collecting magazine? That's really, really cool.
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Not me, I'll tell you that. Yeah, I still need to get.
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I still need to get that magazine that I was in that John
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Newman wrote an epic article about me like 4 years ago from
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you cuz I never received a copy. I still don't.
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Have I have a copy? And so when I see you again, I'm
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gonna give you that one too. I got a couple.
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Magazines hold you to it, even if they're just Xerox pages.
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That's fine, I can print that up.
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That's all good. So yeah, PSA, obviously a lot of
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criticism for PSA and, and a lot of it's deserved, but yeah, you
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got a highlight when you know, they made, they made the IT, it
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was a fun thing for me. So it made my hobby experience
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more fun and I'm happy it made the magazine.
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So and I, I always enjoy the magazine.
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You know, it's not why I subscribe, so to speak, like or
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whatever. I renew my membership because it
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comes with card ladder, it comes with the magazine and then I
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have, I'm not really submitting cards, but I guess I could if I
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if I wanted to. So it's something I keep
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renewing. I don't know if I'll renew it
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forever, but at least for now I I renewed it for another year
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so. Well, I it's a no brainer for me
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next year. I didn't know that it came with
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free card ladder. I spent 200 bucks on card ladder
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by itself. What is PSAA?
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Little bit more than that and I can, you know, it's free.
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I think it was 200. They just renewed 200 bucks for
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a year. You get the magazine every month
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and then you get card Ladder and then obviously you get access.
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To you get to submit. Grading, grading, submitting and
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all that stuff. So yeah, if you're someone who
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gets card ladder anyway, it might make sense.
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It's AI, like the magazine. It's cool.
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I'm definitely gonna get back on board with that for sure.
20:40
Yep. So what else?
20:42
What else going on I'm trying? To think, well, last time we
20:45
talked, you you told me a television show to watch a
20:49
series, and it's called Paradise.
20:50
Yeah. And me and my wife watched it.
20:53
We absolutely loved it. We liked the second season
20:56
better than the first season. I think.
20:58
You know, when they got into the house with Elvis in that, I
21:02
forgot what her name is, but super famous actress.
21:05
It was super good. So we blazed, we blazed through
21:08
it in like probably a week and a half.
21:09
Done. So good.
21:10
I'm glad, man. I was wondering if you were
21:12
going to watch that. And yeah, season 2 is just
21:14
unbelievable. Really good and it's it's
21:17
leading into a third season now that yeah, it's getting wild
21:21
now. Crazy so.
21:22
Yeah, yeah. Where they really left the
21:24
carrot there I was like, gosh, come on.
21:26
Man, it'll wait it like another year.
21:28
Yeah, I'll have to remind me that we were even watching the
21:31
show. That's a problem with those lead
21:33
ONS, like you forget you're watching them and then you're
21:36
whatever. I know.
21:38
So what have you been up to in the hobby lately as far as your
21:41
card collecting journey? Are you buying cards?
21:44
Pickups. What are you doing behind the
21:47
scenes over there? I have, I have bought a few
21:49
cards. Definitely not at the volume
21:53
that was, I mean from like 2021 to 2025 or like, yeah, midway
22:01
through 2025, man, I was buying, I bought a lot, you know, I
22:04
bought a lot. So now I've bought a few good
22:08
sized cards, good Pedro Martinez cards that I made my own custom
22:13
labels for like even different than the ones I already had with
22:17
Mac Pro. So I think they're coming in the
22:20
mail today. Actually, it's just for I got 2
22:23
Pedro Martinez new cards that I created their own unique labels
22:28
for. So I gotta before I show those,
22:31
I got to get them in the in the in the Mac Pros and all ready to
22:35
go. But yeah, not, not a lot.
22:38
I mean, maybe maybe one card a month type thing.
22:41
Not not much at all. And that's probably the way I'll
22:43
keep it. You know, there's another
22:47
company out there, Auction wired that I think they're also going
22:51
to be a sponsor of Sports card Clubhouse here coming up.
22:55
I don't know if I should announce that yet, but you know,
22:57
I think, I think, I think they are.
22:59
And I'm going to start using them not just because of that,
23:02
but because I had there's like with Pedro Martinez, I got like
23:07
3 or 4 cards of his that I still have not been able to track
23:12
down. And I figure out maybe I'm
23:15
missing them. I don't think they've sold, but
23:16
like I don't want to miss them when they come up because it's
23:18
been years now. So I'm going to set like a saved
23:21
search with the auction houses and stuff like that that maybe
23:25
they'll pop up on because I don't really monitor well.
23:27
I mean, I have eBay safe searches, some of them still,
23:30
but like Fanatics Marketplace for fanatics collect a lot of
23:34
carts sell there now or like you'll see it's a golden sale or
23:38
they'll be all these auction houses.
23:39
So I'm going to create an account with them because I
23:43
wanna, you know, just make sure I don't miss them when they come
23:46
up. But other than that, you know,
23:47
there's not a ton of cards that I'm looking for.
23:49
Maybe there's 10 total that are on my list that if they pop up,
23:53
I'll, I'll go after them. But yeah, I haven't been doing a
23:56
lot of volume lately. So you sound mega focused like
24:00
there's no more there's no more just shooting darts at the board
24:04
or like trying a new lane. You're you're dialed in.
24:08
Yeah. And do you feel like you're
24:10
going to be dialed in? This is it?
24:13
Or do you see a time that maybe you'll all right, I'm going to
24:16
start collecting this guy over here.
24:18
Or do you think this is it? Like you've got your, you got
24:21
your guys, you got your focus, you got your binders dialed in
24:26
and it and it's and you're set. It's hard to say for sure, but
24:31
right now I feel yes. Like, I feel like I, I've come
24:35
to a point I've, I've kind of dabbled with some things and,
24:38
you know, bought and sold certain things.
24:41
But the core stuff, you know, I, I don't see myself veering away
24:44
from like, you know, I, I completed the Tom Brady rookie
24:47
set. I don't see myself going like I
24:49
need to upgrade that. You know, they all look good.
24:52
They look the way I want regardless of the number on
24:54
them. So I'm good there.
24:57
Yeah. I, I don't really see me.
24:59
I can't imagine myself going into a different lane at this
25:01
point. Maybe I will, but right now it
25:04
just feels like I found what I want to collect and the type of
25:08
the size collection that I want to have.
25:10
And yeah, I think I'm feeling pretty good about it.
25:13
And now it's just kind of enjoying what I have.
25:16
And then if those big cards that I'm looking for come along,
25:20
maybe not big, but they're just rare and they, you don't see
25:23
them much. They come along.
25:24
I'm going to, I'll go after them hard.
25:26
But other than that, I'm not just going to like buy something
25:28
to buy something. I don't really feel like I, I
25:31
got to buy something on eBay this month or this week.
25:34
I'm OK not buying. So I I'm happy with the
25:37
collection. There's cards that I haven't
25:38
even like processed in my collection yet.
25:40
I got I'm looking at a couple cards.
25:42
Here. I got to put in Mac Pros, I got
25:44
a label and stuff, so I got plenty to do without buying
25:47
anything new and. I you know.
25:50
Sold them cards too so. Let's talk about that process
25:53
you got. So we all have a process and
25:56
cards come in. You know, I think way back in
25:58
the day, my process was pretty simple.
26:02
I put it in a new thing. I have these zip lock bags.
26:05
Back in the day they had, you know, before they had like
26:08
perfect fit sleeves. This is decades ago.
26:10
And I would, I have these perfect zip lock bags I would
26:13
buy at the local store back in California and I would put my
26:17
graded card in there, zip it in and I'd stack it up with all the
26:20
rest. But now the process is much
26:23
deeper. So tell me about your process
26:25
when a card comes in, a perfect Pedro card comes in.
26:28
Tell me about it. Yeah, And, and I actually have a
26:30
question for you on this that I mean ask you.
26:32
OK, so I get I get a new card again, I'm not really sending
26:36
cards into any grading company. So what I'm doing, I'm just
26:39
getting a card in and then if it qualifies for its own custom
26:44
label, like the two that I recently bought, then I reach
26:47
out to Mac Pro and I get I work with someone there.
26:51
Kim is great to work with. Just design these new labels.
26:55
So if I use an existing one, I already have a bunch of those.
26:58
So I'll put the put the label in, seal it up, put a little
27:02
sticker on it, and then I'm good to go.
27:04
Or then I'll, you know, if I'll wait for the custom label to
27:08
come in. I love the labels, you know
27:09
that? Are you are you are for your
27:13
your Pedro labels? Are you going in detail of pack
27:16
pull odds? What are you putting on those
27:18
labels because you said you could just slap one on there.
27:21
You used to just have a splendid sports one, but I you were you
27:24
started to add some information on a lot of these, yes.
27:27
I'm glad you mentioned that. So I do, I do wanna do and
27:29
that's, I got like a list of cards that I wanna, it takes
27:32
some time, which, you know, but basically I want to create a
27:35
label cuz you're, you're right. I wanna, I want the, the
27:39
information on the card. It's not always like pack odds,
27:42
but it's just something that I want to remember about that
27:45
card. And also like with some of these
27:47
90s cards, I need to remind myself what year it's from what
27:50
set, because a lot of times I don't always know.
27:53
I mean, there's just so many different parallels and stuff
27:55
like that. So that's one of the reasons
27:59
they, they came up with those like stickers that I've seen.
28:02
John Mangini bought a bun and they look awesome.
28:04
I mean, like his are like refractor stickers, but for me,
28:07
that's not, I don't, I want the information of the card on the
28:12
on the label. That's like for me, that's the
28:13
biggest, that's the biggest reason I like PSA cards.
28:17
Not the grade, but I like, I like that museum quality of, of
28:21
the information on the card. And now that I can create my own
28:24
information and and customize it to what I want rather than what
28:27
PSA determines, I like that even better.
28:30
So, yeah, coming up with the information I want to say about
28:34
that card, something that makes it maybe it's the first of
28:37
something, something that makes it cool to me.
28:40
And if, you know, someone came over looking at my collection,
28:43
having that information on the label that I can then reference
28:47
and tell the story of the card. That's that's what I really
28:49
enjoy now. So one question I have for you
28:52
though is I'm before. Hold on before you ask me that.
28:56
So the label thing about people coming over and looking at our
28:59
cards. It doesn't happen very often.
29:01
Either it never ever happens, right?
29:02
It's like once a year someone will come over and the chances
29:05
of them even noticing the label and reading about it.
29:08
But that isn't the point. The point is you're you're
29:11
making this museum that you have this dream of people coming
29:16
over. A museum that no one's ever
29:18
gonna go to. No one's.
29:18
Ever gonna see no one ever cares about it, you know, even if but.
29:24
It's but I like to imagine it. It's a dream in my head.
29:27
I have this dream that like someday they're all going to
29:30
come over and they're all going to and it's going to be this
29:32
grand thing where we're and it's probably never going to happen.
29:36
I'm going to be over at least my.
29:37
Kids, because they're my kids. They're forced to.
29:39
Someday, when they're a little older, I'm going to force them
29:42
through the museum they have. They're like, dad, look at this
29:45
pack pull this thing was one in 78,000 packs.
29:48
That's incredible. You're like this.
29:50
Was the first, first refractor I didn't know.
29:52
Yeah, that's fantastic. I hope.
29:55
I mean, that would be cool if they were really into it, but
29:57
somebody might be someday. At least I know I'll I'll always
30:00
be into it so. But it makes so much sense to me
30:03
too. I'm the same way.
30:04
If we're making this just like, you know, you look at John
30:07
Mangini's house, like, is he really making that for other
30:09
people? No, he's making it for himself.
30:11
We're making these for ourselves with this dream of a line out
30:14
the door of people coming into your room and looking at these
30:17
things. And like, I'm with you.
30:19
I don't want my label to just say double the vintage baseball
30:23
cards. I want the label to say the
30:25
information of all the stuff I want to know about the card
30:28
itself. And it's like not just for me
30:31
because I do need it. Because you look up a card and
30:33
you're like, what the heck is this?
30:35
I can't read the backs anymore. I can't read the the the date.
30:38
We all can't over 40 years old. You're just doomed.
30:42
Once you have 45, it's like, you know you, you definitely need a
30:45
microscope to look at the date and to have that info.
30:49
It's just that it, that's what I love about it and that's why I
30:52
always like PSA. Same reason.
30:55
It wasn't for anything else, you know, in the beginning.
30:57
It was for the grading system that made me feel like I wasn't
31:02
getting ripped off. As I said from day one, it was a
31:04
great equalizer for me, but it was so much more than that, the
31:08
presentation and all that. So I love that.
31:10
So go ahead with your question, Adam.
31:12
Sorry, the question was about a scanner.
31:14
So one of the things I've been thinking about doing is you know
31:17
what's nice? Again, nice thing about PSA is
31:19
when you get a card graded through them, at least in the
31:21
last few years, there's a nice scan of the card online already
31:24
that you could download or use but with.
31:27
Which sometimes sometimes suck as well.
31:30
Like, yeah, sometimes they're out of focus or the the card's
31:33
tilted in the PSA holder and you're like, it just makes it
31:36
look off centered. Or they just, sometimes they
31:38
just rush it. They do a crappy job.
31:40
The color's not right. So go ahead.
31:42
Yeah. But at least they do something,
31:45
you know, compared to the other grading companies.
31:47
I don't even think there's Beckett.
31:49
I don't even know if they do photos.
31:50
But anyway, for like a Mac Pro, because that's a lot of my
31:54
collection now, a lot of the cards I'm getting, I'm not
31:56
grading or anything. I'm putting them in those Mac
31:58
Pros. What's the best scanner?
32:00
Do you do you have a a recommendation or?
32:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What I.
32:05
Should do with that. I have it right here.
32:07
See so funny because I haven't been able to scan in like a year
32:09
because for whatever reason it's all my it's my wife's scanner.
32:12
I used to have a splitter and it was into my computer and I could
32:16
I was just scanning non-stop. Well, for whatever reason, it's
32:19
not working on my computer anymore and I'm not going to sit
32:21
at her computer and scan cards. So now I just have this like
32:24
photo box and I just take photos.
32:26
I don't really care they're for myself, but I'll tell you what
32:30
it is. It's the best scanner you can
32:31
get. It's the Epson model.
32:37
It has a name, Epson Perfection V600 photo.
32:43
So my wife's a professional artist, a professional graphic
32:48
designer. She worked for companies for a
32:50
decade plus. Now she just does her own stuff.
32:53
But that scanner is top of the line and I don't even know if
32:57
they make it anymore. You might have to buy it used,
33:00
you know, refurbished, but that scanner is gold.
33:04
You could scan and make, you know, zoom in to 1,000,000
33:07
pixels. It's the best scanner and it's
33:10
pretty fast, easy to work with. And then for me, I've been using
33:15
for like especially for our custom made, you know, for
33:19
modern cards to get the shine because when you scan you get no
33:23
shine. It's just flat, right.
33:24
I've been taking photos and that's what I've been using for
33:28
my card ladder because the only reason I have card ladder is to
33:34
have my collection in my pocket in all the photos so I can make
33:37
the lighting where it's actually very refractor.
33:41
You know, sometimes you still get a picture of your cell phone
33:43
in the background of the car, you know, because you always get
33:46
the the bounce back and there's, there's almost no way to it's
33:50
hard to get away from that. But for the most part, I love it
33:55
because you can get the shine that actually looks good instead
33:59
of the flat pictures that a scan's going to give you.
34:02
But for vintage cards, the scanning's insane.
34:04
And for any just flat base cards or paper cards, I guess they
34:09
call them, yeah, that that scanner is the way to go for
34:12
sure. OK, yeah, cuz yeah, that's
34:15
right. It does take away the shine.
34:16
That's good. And a lot of the cards that a
34:17
lot of the cards that I want to do that for are like 90s cards,
34:21
early 2000s where one of the nicest features about them is
34:23
that shine. So.
34:25
I have to think that's yeah, you gotta, I I would recommend like
34:29
they have these like white boxes.
34:32
I'll just grab it so you could see some stuff.
34:35
Cuz that's the problem I have too with the with the iPhone, I
34:38
need one of those boxes because like I can't get the lighting
34:41
right and I get this thing collections and stuff.
34:44
I use, I use this for everything.
34:45
This is actually my wife's. And I go, you know, I'm going to
34:47
try that and it works amazing. Then you can, you know, you set
34:52
it up, you put your, your, you know, your lighting, your light
34:56
bar right here. Take a photo of it.
34:58
And then there's no like shadows and you could, you know, play
35:02
with that. To me, I find this to be the
35:05
best for modern cards. And yeah, you want to see the
35:09
shine. That's the entire point, right?
35:11
So it's called the white box. You can get them on like Amazon
35:14
and stuff. I don't know what it's called,
35:16
but yeah, it's on Amazon. It's.
35:17
All right, photo box. Photo box.
35:20
That's right. OK.
35:21
Like that. So let me talk about what I've
35:25
been doing, you know, cuz I haven't been posting videos not
35:28
like 10 days in YouTube world or 12 days whatever it's been is
35:32
like 7 years in like the real world.
35:35
Like when you haven't posted a video, right, right when you're
35:38
sourcing, when your guy like me, where I've been pretty
35:40
consistent, like I'll pop a video up at least, you know,
35:44
once every four days or something.
35:46
Just I push play and show some cards that come in or what have
35:49
you. But when you go like 10 days,
35:52
anyone else there out there making content understands this?
35:55
It's like it's like an eternity. It's like it's been like 5
35:59
years. Well, I decided myself to from
36:04
inspiration from basically who I always get inspired by Shane
36:09
Shoebox legends to make a countdown of.
36:12
And I know everyone does this at the end of the year, they do
36:15
their top 50 cards, 25 cards based on value or favorites.
36:20
Well, I decided to do a countdown based on my favorite
36:25
cards. And so I'm reason I'm bringing
36:28
this up is because I found it very fascinating doing this
36:31
process. And I, and I kind of encourage
36:33
others to kind of think about in this way, even if you're not
36:35
doing a video, just making the list.
36:38
It's been probably a four month process of me making this list
36:43
because I have, you know, roughly 1300 graded cards, give
36:47
or take 100 and to. And I'm not making this list to
36:54
find out cards I want to sell because I have some cards that I
36:58
could sell and I have a little mini stack for CIA that I keep
37:01
forgetting to send in. And I have things like that, but
37:04
I wanted to make this to really keep my focus on where I want my
37:09
money to go because I have a lot of collections going and I, and
37:13
just recently a little sidetrack is what else while I've been
37:17
doing this, I've never, never completed my binder.
37:22
I don't know what you call this thing right here, but on a
37:26
binder you have the side of the binder and a lot of guys you
37:30
know have their binders stored. Well my binders go in boxes and
37:34
I have all my binders have information on the side or my
37:38
boxes to tell me what's in those binders.
37:40
Well I finally doing this countdown reorganized my entire
37:46
collection and my wife sat down with me one night for like 3
37:50
hours and we completed my run of binder side of my binders and
37:56
the side of my boxes. I actually put my actual cards
38:00
that are inside the boxes. So I have like 39 boxes or 39
38:04
binders and every single one of them is labeled with a number if
38:09
they're part of like this is 68 and 69 go in here.
38:12
And these are my 2 actual cards. And I have player ones where,
38:18
you know, they're like my Aaron Judge and I had this before and
38:22
I just have two cards from my Aaron Judge collection and this
38:25
is 2022 and 23. The only cards that make the
38:29
binder, they go in here. While doing this countdown, I
38:34
found I'm like trying to figure out how am I going to do this
38:37
countdown because I have 1300 cards that I love, right?
38:41
How am I going to narrow down to my top 100?
38:43
Well, I started the top, I started what is my all time
38:46
favorite and I work my way down and when I got to #50 it was
38:52
pretty easy, you know, not easy to pick my top 50, but kind of
38:56
like that was the easiest part. My top 50, like top 50 favorite.
39:01
Nothing values just happened to be stance.
39:04
A lot of my big cards go to the top because that's just how it
39:07
works for me and my collecting expensive cards or mean a lot,
39:11
but there's a lot I what I didn't do on purpose was put any
39:15
of my meaningful cards that just have a tant like a, you know, I
39:22
don't want to say spiritual meaning, but like like a card
39:24
that I got from you from your uncle's collection.
39:28
I didn't put that on the list. I didn't put cards that I
39:31
received as gifts on the list whatsoever.
39:34
I completely disregarded those. I didn't put some of my favorite
39:38
pack pull cards of my own that on the list.
39:41
I kept those separate because those are automatically in my
39:45
top 100 cards, but I don't want to include them on this list
39:49
because this list is my top favorite cards that are that are
39:55
just purely off the cards themselves.
39:57
No story behind the cards, even though some of them, they all
40:00
have stories behind them, but I didn't want to include that.
40:03
So I made the list. I know it's a long talk, but I
40:07
made this list and I made. I got to 50 and I go after that
40:10
I go. How do I rank 1958 Topps
40:15
Clemente versus a 1971 Topps Clemente versus a 1972 Topps
40:21
Clemente versus a 1958 Topps Ted Williams versus a 1954 Topps Ted
40:26
Williams? I, I, I, I said, how can I even
40:30
rank those? There's no chance.
40:33
So once I got to 50, I go, all right, how am I going to, how am
40:37
I going to close this out? Because I, I can't even go
40:39
beyond this. So I decided to do, I'm going to
40:43
do a whole video on my own talking about this discussion
40:46
again. Well, I decided to stop at 62
40:50
and when I got to 62, I could pick my top 62.
40:54
And I did it for a reason that you know, will come to fruition
41:00
on my channel. But everything below 62 is like
41:05
equal. I couldn't choose after that.
41:08
I just could not choose. I I my brain would not let me
41:13
choose any of my cards above the others.
41:16
And I know a lot of guys out there have these little
41:18
collections and they only want to have 100 of their greatest
41:21
cards. Well, I've decided to narrow my
41:26
favorites to 62, but then everything below that I can't
41:31
rank. I mentally couldn't rank any of
41:34
them, and I found that fascinating to my brain.
41:37
I found it so cool because I realized that I loved all the
41:41
cards below that 62 all equally. I love my, you know, 55 Tops
41:49
Jackie Robinson, the same as I love my 1971 Tops Clemente.
41:55
I could not put one ahead of the other and that goes for every
41:59
car below #62 and I just could. I just thought it was so cool
42:07
that I have all these cards below that, that they're just
42:10
all inclusive. And how I, what I realized is
42:14
that all the ones below that mean just as much, but they,
42:18
they all have this place in my collection.
42:20
And now that I finished these binders and I made the binder
42:24
pages with my wife and finally, because I had like 15 that I
42:27
hadn't made all these years because I wasn't sure how I
42:31
wanted to organize my collection.
42:34
Well, since I made it, I, I, I've so, so focused.
42:41
My collection is crazy, crazy focused.
42:43
Like you were talking. Cars don't just come into my
42:46
collection Willy nilly anymore. I'm not even going on eBay and
42:50
looking to see what's ending soonest.
42:53
Everything that comes into my collection has to fit in a
42:57
binder, has to fit in this perfect position, but it doesn't
43:00
have to make the top 62. I don't buy cards that have to
43:04
fit my top 62. It just has to fit my top 1300,
43:09
my all the rest of my favorites. And I am a guy that wants a
43:14
giant collection and I'll continue to have a giant
43:17
collection and I can love all the cards below 62 equally.
43:22
And that's what I found fascinating.
43:24
Guys like Mangini, they hate list, they love all their cards
43:27
equally. They're like you can't rank your
43:30
kids. Well, I can rank my cards, but I
43:32
found out that I can't rank past 62.
43:35
Now maybe, maybe in the future I'll be able to extend that to
43:38
75, extend it to 100 as slowly things rise up to the top.
43:44
But why I did this is because and why I'm going to do a video
43:47
on this. I can a it gives you something
43:49
to do for videos. I'm excited to do like 10 cards
43:53
every video. And maybe this series is going
43:55
to take me, you know, six months to do.
43:58
Maybe it takes me six weeks, I don't know.
44:00
But every year I'm going to do this ranking and Shane does it
44:05
and things move in and out of this list and out of this
44:08
ranking category. And I can already see cards
44:11
going up the list or going down the list.
44:15
Like a lot of these cards are like Mike Trout, Aaron Judge,
44:20
couple Show Haze in there. You know, these cards are going
44:24
to definitely move up the list and down the list as far as
44:27
their performance because the more these guys perform on the
44:30
field and the better. Like Mike Trout's having a great
44:33
season. So a lot of his cards made this
44:35
list because I've been collecting them.
44:37
You know, he was the first guy collected an ultra modern.
44:41
You know what, after he crashed during that big crash, I started
44:45
buying his cards and, and those cards are creeping up this list
44:50
and I was really stoked that they are going up and up on this
44:54
62, my top 62 cards list. And then then if he gets hurt, I
44:58
can definitely see those cards coming a lot of them coming off
45:01
the list and I just, I found it so fun.
45:05
So I cannot wait. I have the list printed.
45:09
I, I done with it. It's, it's finished.
45:13
I'm excited to share that. So that's what I've been up to
45:16
instead of making videos, random videos of pickups.
45:19
Cause like you, I'm the only cards I'm picking up are cards
45:22
that are going into these binders and they're not top 62
45:26
cards. They're just they're little
45:27
cards and I'm back into that $2550 bread and butter range
45:31
that I've always loved. I haven't picked up any big
45:34
cards in quite a while really. And it's been fun, like spending
45:39
about 500 bucks a month on cards but selling about $1500 a month
45:45
in cards and cards that don't even make my top 1300 list.
45:49
So yeah, that's where I've been at it.
45:52
I cannot wait to do the list, and when I share the cards
45:55
individually, I can't wait. So yeah, that's kind of what
45:59
I've been up to. So that's a great preview over
46:01
on Double D Vintage baseball cards on YouTube here.
46:04
Keep an eye out for those videos coming out.
46:06
I'm looking forward to that. I do have a couple quick
46:08
questions for you based on what you just said.
46:10
I wrote a couple notes because I jogged in my head.
46:14
Couple things I was going to ask you.
46:16
You mentioned Aaron Judge, specifically Otani.
46:20
Now a lot of their cards have gone up significantly in value.
46:24
I know you've been collecting these guys for a decent amount
46:27
of time. Do you have any Otani and Judge
46:30
cards that you haven't sold that you still have in your
46:31
collection that have gone up a lot in value that you are
46:35
considering selling or are you holding?
46:37
Everything you have now is basically long term hold with
46:40
those guys. Everything I have now except for
46:44
two more, I have two more Otani Bowman rookie cards.
46:49
Oh, I have 3, but I have two that I want to sell.
46:51
I'm going to keep 1. So I had loads and loads and
46:56
loads of his base rookie cards from back when they were $20
47:00
each for APSA 10. I've told this story a million
47:03
times. So over the years as he would
47:05
hit, you know, his cards went astronomical numerous times over
47:08
the last few years. Well, I definitely put up some
47:13
more for sale last month at CIA or the month before I sold a
47:18
bunch on eBay. I have two more base cards that
47:23
I'm willing to sell. So I'll have 11 Otani base card
47:27
and that is going to be the Bowman Rookie.
47:30
Why? Because I bought like 60 of
47:32
those for a dollar each back in the day.
47:34
They were like a dollar to $1.50 each on the pit.
47:37
You know the pit that I talked about that I used for 20 years
47:41
on the pit buying cards sight and seeing why I bought tons of
47:44
otanis on the pits, stacks of them, and I sent tons off that I
47:49
thought were 10's and came back 10s.
47:50
I sold those over the years like $250 each and now they're like
47:53
$500 cards. I kept slowly sold them through
47:58
the years. I took some of the national
47:59
traded some back in the day, so I have those two to sell.
48:04
As far as Judge goes, I don't think Judge has reached nearly
48:08
his potential and card value that he should be at or could be
48:12
at. I see his cards being worth as
48:16
much as Otani's in the future. If if he continues to do what
48:20
he's doing, you could say he's having a better season than he's
48:24
definitely having a better season so far than Otani as far
48:27
as hitting. So is Mike Trout, but Otani's
48:30
pitching now is elite status, so it's really fun to see it switch
48:35
over to the pitching. As far as Otani's cards go, I
48:39
have what I have for his. I'm not buying any of his cards
48:44
unless they're multiplayer. I have a couple multiplayer
48:48
cards that I want to pick up of his.
48:52
I'm not going to sell any more of his except for those two base
48:54
cards and judge. I'm not selling any of my
48:56
judges. They all fit my collecting
48:58
criteria. I sold the ones I wanted to sell
49:02
over the years. Like last year I sold some that
49:05
I shouldn't have because they went out, but I'm fine with it.
49:08
It was they had already doubled in value, right?
49:12
The cards I have are staying in my collection and they're
49:14
staying long term. They're not going to be shot off
49:18
if even if they double from this point.
49:20
I they, they go in my collection.
49:22
But some my trout cards, I have a lot of my trout cards that I
49:27
would like to sell off and they're ones that are just
49:31
random buys. After I went on the gold when I
49:33
first started collecting my trout, I bought his.
49:36
I was going after his gold cards only his gold.
49:39
Gold run from 2011 all the way through and I have them all
49:43
basically. I have some All Star cards I
49:45
want to replace with the regular base gold cards.
49:49
But I also bought a bunch of I was buying like just random
49:53
cards. I have a bunch still have a
49:55
bunch of PSA 10. You know, random cards of his on
49:58
my wall that I'd like to get rid of.
50:01
But I also have I created a random.
50:04
It's an Otani. The the front of it is actually
50:09
I'll just grab it to share with you because it it it help.
50:12
It helps me maintain my focus. Grab it.
50:18
Greatest card room ever right there.
50:20
Look at that. Greatest greatly.
50:22
I won't lie. It's the greatest card room in
50:24
the whole world. It, it truly is I, I, I can't
50:26
imagine anyone's carving better than mine.
50:29
Anyone comes, visits their mind will blow off their skull.
50:32
But this album right here, it has Otani and Mike Trout on it
50:38
and what it says is Mike Trout and Shohei Otani tops paper
50:43
parallels. So, and the parallels I'm
50:46
shooting for with Otani and Trout have just been Indies,
50:51
gold, some random blacks. But any of the any of the random
50:56
stuff that I bought over the years go in this album.
51:00
And I don't know what I will definitely sell off some of
51:04
these random parallels that I purchased.
51:06
Top space parallels. I have a focus now and it's
51:10
those golds. It's the Indies, some blacks and
51:14
multiplayer into multiplayer cards.
51:16
I'm very focused on. I have a very big multiplayer
51:20
collection of Otani cards, him and multiple other players and
51:25
they're in those parallels that I love.
51:27
So to your point, you're the long answer is eventually sold
51:32
off everything I want to sell for Judge and Otani cards.
51:37
But Mike Trout, I have a basically AI have a lot of Trout
51:43
cards that I could sell if his if he start, if he has a good
51:47
season and he finishes off, I will probably next season or the
51:52
season after sell off some of these others.
51:55
And you know, I'm still buying my trout cards.
51:58
Don't even know I've never stopped.
52:00
So my collection of my trout cards is astonishing and it's
52:03
very nice to see his cards come back.
52:06
Here's what we need, though, Dylan.
52:07
We need, we need. Well, I don't know if you I know
52:09
you're you like the Angels, but yeah, we need a Mike Trout trade
52:14
to the Yankees, right? And he's a teammate of Aaron
52:16
Judge and the Yankees make the World Series and face off the
52:19
Dodgers again. That would be good for the
52:21
hobby, I think, and specifically for your if those MM Trout cars
52:25
that you do want to sell, if that's something like that
52:28
happened. Wow.
52:29
That would really, I think, do well for his his prices.
52:32
You may you bring that up and I love that because the only, the
52:36
absolute only team I would want, or I don't even know if I'd want
52:40
it, but the only team I would be OK with my Trout being traded
52:44
to, it would be the Yankees. I don't want, I don't want my
52:48
Trout to be traded to a team, even if they're in the World
52:51
Series. I don't.
52:52
I would rather him stay on the Angels because to me, Angels
52:56
have been my that's my, that's my team.
52:58
I walked that field as a kid. You know, I, I spent my life at
53:03
the Angel Stadium. That's the only team that I've
53:06
ever cared about. And the Yankees is that other
53:09
team that I cared about. In my collection, I've set the
53:13
first card I made when I came on YouTube, it talks about me on
53:17
the back. And I wrote about how if you
53:19
looked at my collection, you would think I was a I'm an
53:22
Angels fan and you would think I was a Dodgers and Yankees fan
53:26
because of my collection. But the Yankees in particular
53:30
has been a huge part of my collecting because I have on my
53:34
right up there to talk about your childhood room.
53:37
To bring that back. I have a picture right there I'm
53:42
looking at that was hung up on my childhood wall.
53:45
Black and white photo of Babe Ruth, Jamie Foxx and Lou Gehrig
53:50
staring at me right now. And I had a whole bunch of these
53:52
on my wall because my mom bought them for me.
53:55
And I have Ted Williams and mainly Yankees players.
53:59
So if my child got traded and he went to the went and played side
54:03
by side with Aaron Judge and he went against Otani, that would
54:07
be the pinnacle of that would be the greatest thing ever.
54:12
And I could see that happening. I really could too.
54:15
It could happen if I'm not mistaken.
54:17
I'm pretty sure Mike Trout, if I'm not mistaken, that's like
54:21
one of his favorite teams as well.
54:23
Well, he hits great at Yankee Stadium, as we've seen.
54:26
I mean, it just makes, I mean, I know him.
54:28
I live in. Massachusetts.
54:29
Why? Yeah, he hits, he crushes, he
54:31
crushes and crushes. He yeah, Phillies is where he's
54:34
from. But man.
54:35
He's Mickey Mantle, 2 point O man, you know.
54:37
Yankee. Totally.
54:38
Speaking of the last point, we're almost at the hour mark,
54:40
couple more minutes, but this is the last thing I was thinking
54:44
of. These are the times really where
54:46
when prices are going up so much on on cards.
54:50
These are the times really when within your collection, it kind
54:53
of defines what what your long term cards are, because there's
54:57
a lot of cards and a lot of people's collections that have
54:59
gone up significantly here just in the last six months.
55:03
And you know, if you if you were ever going to sell them, now
55:07
might be a good time. So it's really it's forcing a
55:09
lot of collectors to really dig deep in their collection and and
55:13
look at all their cards and go. You know, I said I wanted to
55:17
hold this long term. Well, now I have to put put my
55:19
money more in mouth is right because prices have gone up so
55:23
fast on so many cards and especially good looking cards
55:26
with vintage like example. I have brought this one earlier
55:30
Mickey Mantle rookie card, right PSAPS A5 win.
55:36
Now we hear a lot about the Mike Baker stickers.
55:38
These are the old school stickers.
55:40
This is an PWCCA sticker. I good.
55:45
Lord. On this I I could make a lot of
55:49
money on this card really from when I bought it.
55:51
I think especially right now with the I appeal movement and
55:54
this is a nice I appeal Mickey. That looks better than an A.
55:57
I've seen that card up close. That looks better.
55:59
Than an it's a good one so I mean I could probably I I don't
56:01
know, but I could sell it for maybe double of what I paid for
56:04
it same with my 52 tops Mickey Mantle.
56:06
I could definitely make a lot of money on that.
56:09
But you know, I said when I got them that I, I'm looking to hold
56:12
those long term. Well, now, you know, if I was
56:15
looking to make money, now's the time I could take the money off
56:18
the table. But I'm not doing that.
56:19
So I think it's a time when if you are a collector doesn't mean
56:23
you can't sell cards. I'm, I'm selling cards.
56:25
But if you are a collector of, of things, of cards that you do
56:29
plan on holding, now is probably as hard a time as ever to keep
56:34
holding those, right, Unless, you know, you truly love them.
56:37
And and, you know, I think we, you and I were going to do a
56:40
show at one point where we're going to look at the how do we
56:45
put it though? The most most important card or
56:48
the most valuable cards or something like that, right.
56:51
Well, yeah, I. Have more value.
56:53
Transcend value, right? Well, in a way, any card that
56:57
you're not selling right now transcends the value, right?
56:59
Because you know, you, you value it more than what it could sell
57:04
for right now or it just means more to you than the money you
57:06
could make on it. So there's the cards that we're
57:10
keeping our collection. Those, those are.
57:12
That's kind of the definition of that, really.
57:15
Yeah, no, you made I love this. I love this topic.
57:17
So let's touch on it for a few minutes.
57:20
One of the worst arguments I that I hear all the time, and I
57:23
absolutely hate this argument is you holding a card that is worth
57:29
$500 is you basically saying I would rather have that than
57:34
$500. I, I just, I don't, I can't, I
57:38
don't, I don't like that statement.
57:39
I don't, I get it could be true and I guess in a way it's true.
57:43
I just don't see it that way. Maybe because I don't have when
57:47
I have my card ladder account, I don't watch my collection go up
57:52
and down the value because I turned all those.
57:54
I had to go individually to every single card and turn that
57:57
feature off. So I don't even know what those
58:00
cards are worth. And that's the number one reason
58:02
is because it isn't I, I always, I do see out of both sides of my
58:07
mouth where cards that are worth more become more valuable in my
58:11
own brain. And I get that part of it.
58:14
But I don't see $1000 card as $1000 cash it it, it's totally
58:19
different to me. And I also everybody like will
58:23
share a card these days and they'll be like, this card's
58:26
doubled in value. So I have to sell it.
58:29
Almost every card has doubled in value.
58:32
If you collected, if you, if you collected in a decent way and
58:37
you're not just buying, even the base cards of Ohtani have
58:42
doubled and tripled in value. But if you're not just buying, I
58:46
don't want to say dumbly, but if you've been in the hobby a
58:48
decent amount of time and you bought with your eyeballs and
58:50
you bought with your brain, your cards have doubled in value and
58:53
you especially if you picked, how about this?
58:56
If you picked players, let's not even based on anything else.
58:59
If you pick the right players to collect, and that's not talking
59:02
about modern players. I'm talking about vintage
59:03
players. If you pick the right vintage
59:05
players to collect, they've all doubled in value.
59:08
So when you sell a card that's doubled and you sell that Mickey
59:10
Mantle and you get double your value out of it, you're going to
59:14
go buy. Mangini made this argument.
59:16
You know you're going to go buy a card that's doubled in value.
59:19
Only way you're going to not is if you go buy a card that of
59:23
let's say, you know, Ernie Banks who hasn't doubled in value and
59:28
even his rookie cards, you know, maybe not double in value, but
59:32
you get what I'm saying. Like it's, it's one of those
59:35
things you, you, your cards have doubled in value.
59:38
I have to sell. I'm forced to sell it.
59:40
No, I think the only time if you could be make the argument to be
59:43
forced to sell is if your card went from $100 to $1000 or $1000
59:49
to $10,000. Every card's doubled in value.
59:52
I look at my collection, it's worth double what it was before.
59:57
Some of them triple, some 10 times.
1:00:00
But I just don't see it in that way.
1:00:02
The only way I sell a card in all reality is if it has gone
1:00:07
from 100 to thousands or I doesn't.
1:00:12
It doesn't fit my collection. So yeah, I now we could go on
1:00:16
for hours about this. So yeah, there's my two cents on
1:00:19
that whole concept. We could go on for hours and
1:00:22
well, that means we're going to do another one of these, Yes,
1:00:25
and hopefully not too long from now.
1:00:27
But yeah, we're at the hour mark.
1:00:29
I got a kids are getting out of school pretty.
1:00:31
Soon my wife just texted me and said let's go surf and I go.
1:00:34
All right, well, hey, go surfing, man.
1:00:36
This was fun as always. Another episode of Turn Back the
1:00:39
Clock. Dylan, thanks.
1:00:40
And I'll talk to you soon. OK, later.
1:00:43
All right.