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Steel Magnolias with a side of Dolly · A Really Good Podcast with Greg & Liz

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SPEAKER_02: I'm not crazy, Melin.
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SPEAKER_00: I've just been in a very bad mood for 40 years.
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SPEAKER_00: Hello, hello, and welcome to another episode of a really good podcast with Greg and Liz.
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SPEAKER_00: And today's episode I am so excited for.
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SPEAKER_00: I haven't been this excited for an episode since like the sound of music.
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SPEAKER_01: I was surprised to like this movie as much as I did.
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SPEAKER_00: Of course you did.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a fucking incredible movie.
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SPEAKER_01: It is.
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SPEAKER_01: There's like a lot of nostalgia.
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SPEAKER_01: It's almost like I want to be a like late middle-aged southern woman.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you do.
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SPEAKER_00: You would make a great late middle-aged southern woman.
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SPEAKER_00: I would I think I would.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, I love all the food.
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SPEAKER_01: I love all the nostalgia.
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SPEAKER_01: I love all the etiquette.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
0:39
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, but but I do.
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SPEAKER_01: I like it a lot.
0:42
SPEAKER_00: If you had to pick one of these women to be, like, who do you think you would be?
0:46
SPEAKER_00: Is it Clary?
0:47
SPEAKER_00: What's it what's her name?
0:48
SPEAKER_00: Clary, yeah.
0:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like Clary.
0:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because you're a little bit like more pulled together.
0:52
SPEAKER_00: See, I'm a Weezer, a hundred percent.
0:54
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, Weezer is probably one of one of the top ten movie characters.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, I wrote that in here.
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SPEAKER_00: I was like, this has got to be one of the best characters of all time.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: Who is that woman?
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SPEAKER_00: Who is that woman?
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SPEAKER_01: Shirley McLean.
1:07
SPEAKER_01: That's the same one from Terms of Endearment.
1:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:09
SPEAKER_00: It was she went directly from Fart in the face to Weeza Boudreau.
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SPEAKER_00: No, they actually director offered her a role and said, you can pick anyone besides Malin or Shelby.
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SPEAKER_00: And she chose Weezer.
1:24
SPEAKER_01: By the way, what kind of name is Melyn?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
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SPEAKER_00: I actually wrote out the names and the ages of all the actresses when they were in this movie that we will go through in a little bit.
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SPEAKER_00: So I've been wanting to do this forever.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't think it was on streaming for a while.
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SPEAKER_00: I feel like we tried to do it a couple years ago and we couldn't.
1:40
SPEAKER_00: And I am at the point where I don't, I won't pay for anything.
1:44
SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
1:44
SPEAKER_00: Um that's not true.
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SPEAKER_00: I pay for 150 streaming services.
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SPEAKER_00: So if none of you can get your mitts on a classic like steel magnolias, I don't know what to tell you.
1:54
SPEAKER_01: Really, I know.
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SPEAKER_01: I pay for them all.
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SPEAKER_00: I know.
1:56
SPEAKER_00: I pay every single, I was just going through it.
1:58
SPEAKER_00: I was trying to find a TV show, a new TV show to watch at the gym.
2:02
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, Peacock, Prime, Netflix, Hulu, Disney Plus.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, and it's like, I don't even know.
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SPEAKER_00: It's too much.
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SPEAKER_00: It's too much.
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SPEAKER_00: But one of the reasons why we did this now, obviously, is because of the incredibly sad passing of Dolly Parton.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not surprised.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, she was having health troubles.
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SPEAKER_00: So this wasn't like a shocker.
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SPEAKER_00: This wasn't like Rob Reiner.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but no.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's a shocker that Rob Reiner, he wasn't like the picture of health, but the way he died, I think.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, exactly.
2:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
2:31
SPEAKER_00: But like also her husband of almost 60 years died last year.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they they say that she was like really, they were like so close, and it's just like this beautiful thing.
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SPEAKER_00: And he just wanted no part in the public eye.
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SPEAKER_01: He didn't want any part in it.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm doing that emoji that's got like the wiggle mouth and like um so I actually did do a little bit of research.
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SPEAKER_00: I decided this episode's gonna be called Steel Magnolias with a side of Dolly.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_00: And I did do the research on Dolly a little bit too.
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SPEAKER_00: All right, so where do you want to start?
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SPEAKER_00: We go through that first.
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SPEAKER_00: Um Dolly Parton was born January 19th, 1946, in Locust Ridge, Tennessee, in the great Smoky Mountains.
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SPEAKER_00: Now I went to Tennessee not that long ago.
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SPEAKER_00: It was well, it was like maybe three years ago to visit one of my friends.
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SPEAKER_00: And we went to Gat Gatlinsburg, I think it's called.
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SPEAKER_00: We were in the Smoky Mountains, and it's a weird place.
3:30
SPEAKER_01: It's like Appalachian, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Or I said that word.
3:33
SPEAKER_01: But like that, I'm fascinated with that culture inbreeding.
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SPEAKER_00: Appalachian, well, it's weird because you hear all that stuff about like pe you go on at night and there's like people howling and stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like it's it's well, so Appalachia, I'm not gonna get that right, but like not that I think that the the culture is inbreeding, but like the poverty and like the grit of those people, I just think they're I I just find them really interesting.
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SPEAKER_01: There's this guy, Shelby Lee Adams, who takes awesome like pictures of people, yeah, like the po poverty stricken, you know, Appalachian people.
4:07
SPEAKER_01: I said it three, four, or five different ways, but whatever.
4:09
SPEAKER_01: I I'm into that whole world.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I find it very interesting.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: I do love the creepiness of it though.
4:14
SPEAKER_00: Like that if you go on at night, you can like hear women or something like that.
4:17
SPEAKER_00: And you know what's funny?
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SPEAKER_00: I actually, my wedding venue was on the Appalachian Trail.
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SPEAKER_00: Like there were hikers that walked through the field and stuff.
4:26
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, excuse me.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm glad I didn't know about that before we picked it, because that would have been would have been interesting.
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SPEAKER_00: But, anyways, so she was the fourth of 12 children.
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SPEAKER_00: Her father was a farmer who was a hard worker, but he had no money.
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SPEAKER_00: He reportedly paid the doctor who delivered her with a bag of cornmeal.
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SPEAKER_00: Where do I get that deal?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm still paying off Remy's birth.
4:47
SPEAKER_00: Hell, I'm still paying off Crosby's birth.
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SPEAKER_01: And the doctor kind of has to be like, I guess I'll take it.
4:52
SPEAKER_00: I mean, at this point, like, what are you gonna do?
4:55
SPEAKER_00: You know?
4:57
SPEAKER_00: You can't really send it to collections.
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SPEAKER_00: They lived in a tiny cabin with no electricity or running water.
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SPEAKER_00: Imagine that nightmare.
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SPEAKER_00: Wouldn't you have like an outhouse, I guess?
5:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just went outside.
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SPEAKER_01: Actually, I'd find that freeing.
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SPEAKER_00: 14 people with an outhouse.
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SPEAKER_00: Her mother was a singer and storyteller who raised the children in a deeply musical household, and her grandfather was a preacher and a fiddler.
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SPEAKER_00: So this was all really in her blood.
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SPEAKER_00: She said she learned to write songs because she really didn't have anything else to do.
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SPEAKER_00: And this is why our kids are shit, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: This is why this generation is just because these kids are not.
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SPEAKER_01: If Fortnite was around, there's no Dolly Part.
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SPEAKER_00: If Fortnite was around, there's no Dolly Part.
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SPEAKER_00: I know it she gets a tablet and it's all over.
5:41
SPEAKER_00: It's over.
5:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Are your kids iPad kids?
5:44
SPEAKER_01: I'm embarrassed.
5:45
SPEAKER_01: I I gotta tell the truth.
5:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, kinda, you know.
5:47
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're there's not they're not like playing with sticks and like making their own games and shh.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: I wish they were, but they're yeah, kinda.
5:55
SPEAKER_01: They play video games.
5:56
SPEAKER_01: What do you gotta do?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, mine are not.
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SPEAKER_00: Crosby didn't get a tablet until he was 10.
6:00
SPEAKER_01: Damn.
6:01
SPEAKER_00: It's like literally the only good thing of parenting I've ever done.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: It's like they are literally eating fruity pebbles right now, and I will give them junk food.
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SPEAKER_00: They watch a lot of TV, don't get me wrong.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just never, I never bought one, and I just kept never buying one.
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SPEAKER_00: And I didn't even buy him the first one.
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SPEAKER_00: His grandmother gave it gave it to him.
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SPEAKER_01: She's like, this kid needs an eye back.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: That was a that was a tough day.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I was like, I've worked this hard.
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SPEAKER_00: I made it a whole decade.
6:28
SPEAKER_00: I actually just got him his first phone, but I got him the the Bark phone.
6:32
SPEAKER_00: Have you heard of this?
6:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it like it's just calling and texting, and it monitors all of their text messages.
6:39
SPEAKER_00: And I get updates that are like there is tension in this conversation.
6:43
SPEAKER_00: Really?
6:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like there's anxiety.
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SPEAKER_00: He told said he wanted to quit school to someone, and it like flagged it as inappropriate conduct and sent me the text message.
6:51
SPEAKER_01: And you're like, whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, who has it who doesn't want to quit school?
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SPEAKER_01: You know, like I know or quit my job, since sixth grade.
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SPEAKER_00: Anyways, so she learned to write songs so she was bored.
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SPEAKER_00: She wrote her first song, Little Tiny Tassel Top, when she was five years old, and built her first guitar out of an old mandolin and two bass guitar strings.
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SPEAKER_00: By the time she right, by the time she was 10, she was performing professionally, appearing on local radio and TV.
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SPEAKER_01: It's that voice, too.
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SPEAKER_01: And just a whole package.
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SPEAKER_01: She's like very attractive.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but she worked hard at it.
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SPEAKER_00: She has one of my favorite quotes from her, it costs a lot of money to look this cheap.
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SPEAKER_01: It costs a lot of money to look this cheap.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that was the quote.
7:33
SPEAKER_00: Hold on, let me.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but does she look cheap?
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SPEAKER_01: Is that the thing?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, she kind of, I mean, she looked cheap in regards to like the 80s.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_00: The big hair, the big boobs, the long nails.
7:45
SPEAKER_01: Like you can't help the big boobs.
7:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh I think they are they fake?
7:49
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: Um I heard a quote from her said, she said, I got a great ass too.
7:55
SPEAKER_00: Which I think is awesome.
7:56
SPEAKER_01: Which I think is awesome.
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SPEAKER_00: One of my favorite quotes of all time was from her.
8:01
SPEAKER_00: She said, I don't get offended by dumb blonde jokes because I know I'm not dumb and I know I'm not blonde.
8:08
SPEAKER_00: She wears wigs.
8:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
8:09
SPEAKER_00: Are Dolly Parton's boobs?
8:12
SPEAKER_01: Oh, this isn't real-time research.
8:14
SPEAKER_00: This is real, this is on the go research.
8:16
SPEAKER_01: This is what everyone wants to know.
8:17
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
8:18
SPEAKER_00: Yes, they're fake.
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SPEAKER_00: Shit.
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SPEAKER_00: So it does cost a lot of money to look that cheap, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I guess so.
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SPEAKER_00: When she was 13, she performed at the Grand Ole Opry and was introduced by Johnny Cash.
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SPEAKER_00: Did so well that they made her do three encores.
8:32
SPEAKER_00: How about that?
8:33
SPEAKER_00: Whoa.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's crazy.
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SPEAKER_00: She graduated from high school in 1964, moved to Nashville, started selling her songs, which sparked a lot of interest.
8:40
SPEAKER_00: This is right around when she met her husband.
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SPEAKER_00: She, I believe she married him in 1966.
8:44
SPEAKER_00: I want to say she was like 18 or 19.
8:46
SPEAKER_00: She might have been 20 when she married him.
8:48
SPEAKER_00: I think she was 18 when she met him.
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SPEAKER_00: In 1967, she joined the Porter Wagner show.
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SPEAKER_00: He was a huge country star and she became his duet partner.
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SPEAKER_00: They blew up and they had a bunch of hits, but then she started getting all the attention and eventually decided to leave the partnership.
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SPEAKER_00: The breakup was very painful.
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SPEAKER_00: So she decided to channel her pain into a song that you may have heard, I Will Always Love You.
9:08
SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
9:09
SPEAKER_01: So it was- I mean, I'm saying whoa, a lot.
9:10
SPEAKER_01: This is like this is actually really cool to hear how this all developed.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
9:13
SPEAKER_00: So it was about a professional breakup.
9:16
SPEAKER_01: Do you think that who all right?
9:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say this, and this is like sort of sacrilegious, but like who did it better?
9:22
SPEAKER_00: Whitney, for sure.
9:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it just it depends on your type, too, but I mean it's Whitney.
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SPEAKER_00: And like she's gone, she's dead too, you know.
9:30
SPEAKER_00: That's kind of a great episode.
9:32
SPEAKER_01: It's it's almost like the nothing compares to you, the Sinead O'Connor.
9:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
9:37
SPEAKER_01: Prince wrote it and did a version of it.
9:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Sinead's isn't it?
9:40
SPEAKER_00: And like that doesn't mean that Prince isn't an incredible talent.
9:44
SPEAKER_00: It's just it doesn't have the I want to say like gravitas that the Whitney does.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, that that beat drop in the middle of the song, like, oh my god.
9:53
SPEAKER_00: The rumor is that she wrote I Will Always Love You and Jolene in the same day.
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SPEAKER_00: She actually did say that in an interview, but later she clarified that it was on the same demo tape.
10:04
SPEAKER_00: So like it was back to back.
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SPEAKER_00: So it may not have been the same day, it was the same songwriting session.
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SPEAKER_00: So it could have been like a day or two later that she wrote it, but you know, they it was she wrote I Will Always Love You, and then the next song she wrote was Jolene, which in and of itself doesn't have to be on the same day.
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SPEAKER_00: But that one was about a woman that was flirting with her husband.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: I actually heard that they may have had an open marriage.
10:27
SPEAKER_01: Whoa, what really?
10:29
SPEAKER_00: Well, I I don't know.
10:31
SPEAKER_00: She was gone a lot.
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SPEAKER_00: They actually asked her, like, what was the secret to your marriage?
10:34
SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Be gone all the time.
10:37
SPEAKER_00: And I can attest that, like, you know, when you're apart a lot, what is there to even fight about, really?
10:43
SPEAKER_00: You know, like he seems like he just wanted to chill at home and do his thing, and then she'd come back.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: They didn't have any kids.
10:51
SPEAKER_00: I always say, if Tucker and I didn't have kids, we'd go days without seeing each other.
10:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'd be going on vacations all the time with my friends.
10:58
SPEAKER_00: Like, why not?
10:59
SPEAKER_01: Sounds like kind of a cool way to go.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: It helps though if your partner is a multi, multi-millionaire.
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SPEAKER_00: In 1974, her song, I Will Always Love You, went to number one.
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SPEAKER_00: So I will always love you went to number one twice on the country charts before Whitney even did it.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's not like it was some unknown song.
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SPEAKER_00: Elvis Presley was obsessed with the song.
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SPEAKER_00: He used to sing it all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: Priscilla actually said he sang it to her as they were walking down after they got married, and he wanted to record it, so they were all set to record it.
11:29
SPEAKER_00: And then Colonel Tom Parker, that douchebag, told her that it was standard procedure that the songwriter sign over half of the publishing rights to any song recorded by Presley.
11:38
SPEAKER_00: She said, I think the fuck not.
11:40
SPEAKER_00: And thank God she didn't, because when it came around with Whitney, she made God knows.
11:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
11:47
SPEAKER_00: Like she's still making money off of that song.
11:49
SPEAKER_01: Well, not anymore.
11:50
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, but I mean, yeah, because she's dead.
11:53
SPEAKER_00: I was like, no, streaming, you are.
11:55
SPEAKER_00: You think a little bit.
11:57
SPEAKER_00: From that point on, she just blew up.
11:59
SPEAKER_00: She had over the course of her career 25 number one hits, 44 top 10 country albums, more than a hundred million records sold worldwide, 11 Grammy Awards, 54 Grammy nominations.
12:11
SPEAKER_01: She's like a legend.
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SPEAKER_01: Does anyone even compare?
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SPEAKER_00: Like, well, and the songwriting too.
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SPEAKER_00: The thing I was interested in, I did look up because they they always talk about what a great songwriter she was.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: And I don't really know much of her music besides, you know, nine to five and which is a great one.
12:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a great one.
12:25
SPEAKER_00: It's funny, I actually just reposted our video from our Labor Day episode.
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SPEAKER_00: The song I used in the video was nine to five.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: Perfect.
12:34
SPEAKER_00: So, as for her other ventures, okay.
12:36
SPEAKER_00: In the midst of this, she became a movie star.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: She did the best little whorehouse in Texas.
12:40
SPEAKER_00: Have you ever seen that?
12:41
SPEAKER_00: I haven't seen that.
12:41
SPEAKER_01: Burt Reynolds, yeah.
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unknown: I've seen it.
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SPEAKER_00: Nine to five, which earned her an Oscar for best original song.
12:46
SPEAKER_00: In 1986, she partnered with the Hershey family to develop an existing amusement park into Dollywood.
12:52
SPEAKER_00: In 1988, she founded the Dollywood Foundation to improve educational outcomes in her home county of Sevier County, Tennessee.
12:59
SPEAKER_00: It had the Buddy program, which meant middle schoolers would pair off with a friend to support each other through school, and any student who participated in it that graduated got$500, which is in the 80s.
13:11
SPEAKER_00: So that was, you know, that's a lot of money.
13:13
SPEAKER_00: I mean I take$500 right now.
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SPEAKER_00: The dropout rate among the participating classes fell from 35% to 6%.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: So she did some good, huh?
13:22
SPEAKER_01: Is Dollywood still around?
13:23
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: My one of my friends just went there for her birthday like last year.
13:27
SPEAKER_00: All right, are you ready?
13:28
SPEAKER_00: So this is all of her philanthropy.
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SPEAKER_00: In 1995, she founded the Imagination Library in honor of her father, who never learned to read or write.
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SPEAKER_00: It mails one book per month to each enrolled child from birth to kindergarten.
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SPEAKER_00: In February 2018, she donated her 100 millionth free book to the Library of Congress.
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SPEAKER_00: Starting in 2022, employees of Dollywood who decided to go to college had their tuition, books, and other fees paid for.
13:50
SPEAKER_00: She's been paying for band uniforms for a number of Tennessee high schools for years.
13:55
SPEAKER_00: And her actual donations have never been totaled, but she's raised a ton of money for the American Red Cross, HIV and AIDS research, pediatric cancer program.
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SPEAKER_00: She donated half a million dollars to build a cancer center in her hometown and named it after the doctor who delivered her that got paid in cornmeal.
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SPEAKER_01: Is Dolly Parton the best person ever?
14:12
SPEAKER_00: Wait, I'm not even done.
14:14
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
14:14
SPEAKER_00: Are you ready?
14:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: She played a benefit concert to raise the rest of the funds for that cancer center and made generational and transformational donations of undisclosed amounts to the East Tennessee Children's Hospital.
14:28
SPEAKER_00: The hospital was later renamed the Dolly Parton Children's Hospital.
14:31
SPEAKER_00: And like, if my kids get sick, that's where I'm going.
14:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:36
SPEAKER_00: She donated a million dollars towards research during the critical early stages of developing the Moderna COVID vaccine.
14:42
SPEAKER_00: In response to the 2016 Great Smoking Mountain Wildfire, she hosted a telethon that raised$9 million for the victims.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: Her fund provided$10,000 over six months to more than 900 families.
14:54
SPEAKER_00: And the way they did it was they gave them$1,000 a month for the first five months.
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SPEAKER_00: And then in the sixth month, they got$5,000.
15:02
SPEAKER_00: And they said the way that they did that, where they didn't just give them one lump sum, they did it over time.
15:07
SPEAKER_00: It actually like helped the families get back on their feet better than if they just got like an insurance payment down the line.
15:13
SPEAKER_00: In the aftermath of 2024's Hurricane Helene, she announced a donation of$2 million to relief efforts and another couple million through her various businesses in the Dollywood Foundation.
15:22
SPEAKER_00: She remained politically neutral, though it's pretty obvious what side of the line she was on.
15:28
SPEAKER_00: She publicly supported gay marriage in 2009, which, as a country star, that is not something that a lot of them do.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: There's this gay man in my work.
15:37
SPEAKER_01: He's in the cafeteria.
15:38
SPEAKER_01: He's like hysterical.
15:38
SPEAKER_01: He's one of the best.
15:39
SPEAKER_01: He's like a ray of sunshine every day.
15:41
SPEAKER_01: We joke around every day.
15:42
SPEAKER_01: And he like when he was like really upset the day Daddy said.
15:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she was older.
15:47
SPEAKER_01: He's older.
15:48
SPEAKER_01: And he's like, they did he she did so much for my community.
15:50
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh, I didn't even know that.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: She was a vocal supporter of the trans community too in 2023 when they started to really like hammer down on a lot of the anti-trans laws.
15:59
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, there's there's other things too.
16:01
SPEAKER_00: I didn't even like get into every single thing, but that's like the gist of it.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm curious about what was her net worth.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: Uh, she wasn't a billionaire, but she was up there.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: Are you looking it up?
16:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because it's interesting, right?
16:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
16:11
SPEAKER_00: I was thinking she's probably in like the mid 500 mil.
16:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're right around there.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: They say probably close to 650 million dollars.
16:18
SPEAKER_01: And if she didn't give up anywhere, she probably would have been a billionaire.
16:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: I mean, think about college.
16:24
SPEAKER_01: 650 million dollars.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: I know that's the American dream.
16:28
SPEAKER_00: Like, she was born in a shack without running water with 14 other people.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: And she like clawed her way to the top on those long ass fingernails.
16:37
SPEAKER_00: Those are some long ass fingernails, yeah.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, wow.
16:39
SPEAKER_01: Good wow, amazing.
16:40
SPEAKER_00: I know, amazing.
16:41
SPEAKER_00: And like it's interesting too, because it when somebody dies, obviously you hear all the stuff, and I haven't heard a single bad thing about her.
16:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she's like like Mr.
16:50
SPEAKER_01: Rogers, too.
16:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
16:52
SPEAKER_01: Let's leave them alone.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: I mean, go from nothing to become a superstar was famous for almost 70 years.
16:58
SPEAKER_00: She never left the spotlight to do so many good things, and so many of it was like under the radar.
17:03
SPEAKER_00: Like you always heard she was a good person and she did a lot, but you didn't really hear the details unless you were really paying attention.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: And after watching this movie, she's a solid actress.
17:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and she never pissed anyone off.
17:17
SPEAKER_00: A true bad bitch.
17:18
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
17:19
SPEAKER_00: Anything else you want to say about Dolly?
17:20
SPEAKER_01: No, just that my my grandmother was also a huge fan of Dolly.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: Always liked her a lot.
17:25
SPEAKER_01: The 80s were big for Dolly.
17:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: Because that's when her career really took off the late 70s.
17:32
SPEAKER_00: So going into the 80s, she was pretty famous.
17:35
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so are you ready to talk about Steel Magnolias?
17:37
SPEAKER_01: I am, yes.
17:38
SPEAKER_00: My favorite movie of all time.
17:40
SPEAKER_00: Did you know that?
17:40
SPEAKER_01: That's your favorite movie of all time.
17:42
SPEAKER_01: I don't even think I could I could say if someone asked me what my favorite movie of all time is, I would not say this, but I would I don't know what I would say.
17:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, I mean it would be a little bit weird.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: You know what's funny?
17:51
SPEAKER_00: So I loved this movie.
17:53
SPEAKER_00: I watched this movie at a wildly inappropriate age.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: I want to say like eight, seven, eight years old.
17:59
SPEAKER_00: I think it came out in '89, and I'm pretty sure like relatively shortly after it came out, I watched it.
18:04
SPEAKER_00: I never connected the dots until I graduated from hairdressing school, and my mom got me like a congratulations card.
18:11
SPEAKER_00: And it was all the women in steel magnolias, and it was a bunch of quotes.
18:14
SPEAKER_00: I don't trust anyone who does their own hair, all that kind of stuff.
18:17
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Is it was that part of it?
18:19
SPEAKER_01: The hairdressing?
18:20
SPEAKER_00: I thought I was wondering that why why you like I not intentionally, like that wasn't like why I became a hairdresser, but I realized so much of this movie is set in the hair salon.
18:28
SPEAKER_00: Like the play that it's based on, the whole thing is in the hair salon.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: And one of the things I love, like there was a short time when I was in between salons that I worked in the studio and I hated it.
18:38
SPEAKER_00: And I couldn't put my finger on it.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: And I realized, like, watching this movie, it's like it's because it's the camaraderie.
18:43
SPEAKER_00: Like the thing I love most about my job is all my friends come in.
18:47
SPEAKER_00: I get to keep in touch with people.
18:48
SPEAKER_00: Like I see my friends that I probably wouldn't see right now.
18:51
SPEAKER_00: You know, we talk shit.
18:52
SPEAKER_00: And we talk shit, and that's it.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: What's better than hanging out with your friends talking shit?
18:56
SPEAKER_00: I know and getting paid for it.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was like, wow, like I wonder if that's why I think it's like the nostalgia too.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, anything you watched.
19:04
SPEAKER_00: I think we've seen doing this podcast that a lot of these movies are not that great, and it's our nostalgia that makes us love them.
19:13
SPEAKER_01: Totally.
19:13
SPEAKER_01: But this one I really did like because this is my first, my first showing of it.
19:16
SPEAKER_01: I know my sister You've never seen it before.
19:19
SPEAKER_01: No, my sister and my mom used to watch it, and I just like I just couldn't get into it.
19:22
SPEAKER_01: And also, I don't understand what it why steel magnolias.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: So magnolias are a tree, like magnolia tree, I think they grow on trees, are really big in the south.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: And like a steel magnolia is basically like a woman who there's actually a definition of it, just like a really strong woman who's fragile on the inside, and it kind of if you look at the movie, like weezer, well, yeah, Melyn, even it's like the things women go through and like have to put up with.
19:52
SPEAKER_00: So, this is the definition a woman unashamed who exemplifies both traditional femininity and uncommon fortitude.
19:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's that's pretty much male on that on that.
20:02
SPEAKER_01: I I mean, I I love all the characters, and I also love Melyn's husband and like their weird relationship.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: I know he's awesome.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: Drum, drum, drum, and spot.
20:11
SPEAKER_00: I like Spud too.
20:13
SPEAKER_00: I love Spud.
20:14
SPEAKER_00: Sam Shepherd is so attractive.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: I was not he's a good looking guy, he's a really good looking guy.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I was like, why is Dolly or Truvy or Truvy putting Truvy putting up with this like slug?
20:26
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, he's fucking stunning.
20:30
SPEAKER_01: He's like laying on the bed smoking cigarettes.
20:32
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, how do you this guy's great?
20:35
SPEAKER_01: But he comes around.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: He does come around, and you know what?
20:38
SPEAKER_00: I was thinking, I wonder if that's kind of what her real husband was like.
20:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like he was depressed.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: That's what I was saying.
20:44
SPEAKER_00: He probably like wasn't making a lot of money.
20:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, this this movie has always made me want to live in a small town.
20:51
SPEAKER_01: Well, me too.
20:52
SPEAKER_01: I like I it made me it makes me want to go back in time, just live in the 80s.
20:56
SPEAKER_01: It's so great.
20:57
SPEAKER_00: I know, and but like when I was in situ, it was essentially a small, I mean it was big, but it wasn't and it wasn't walkable like this place, but it was a small town and it was like I like food delivery.
21:08
SPEAKER_00: Like I like having places around.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: I don't think I could actually do it, you know.
21:13
SPEAKER_00: No, I might be able to.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: You think so?
21:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I like just hanging out.
21:18
SPEAKER_01: Like yesterday, the it was a beautiful day, and we were like barbecuing and I was like talking shit with the neighbor, and it was like, this is all right.
21:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I love it.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: But you're right.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: I like I like that I can get on the highway and yeah, you like it, you like having an edge fitness.
21:31
SPEAKER_00: I like having an edge fitness hanging around.
21:32
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
21:33
SPEAKER_00: No, I know.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: And I think it's just one of those things where it's like it seems great, but although I gotta say, you go down south where the men are all fucked, okay, open a practice, a nice little house, rent a little house, one bedroom, a nice couch, and treat like vets and shit down there.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: You could turn this country around.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, treat men who like refuse to get therapy.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: That's hard to do.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: Well, in the South, it's how a lot of them are, I'm sure.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, their wife can push them towards it, I guess.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, so let's talk about the origin.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: So the movie is based on a play by Robert Harling.
22:13
SPEAKER_00: It was inspired by his sister Susan, who had type 1 diabetes.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: Susan got married and decided to start a family despite her doctor's concerns that it would seriously jeopardize her health.
22:23
SPEAKER_00: Shortly after giving birth to a baby boy in 1983, her circulatory system and kidneys began to fail.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: Dialysis and a kidney transplant from her mother did little to help, and she ended up dying during minor surgery in 1985 at the age of 33.
22:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh, so sad.
22:36
SPEAKER_01: Did Shelby have like super diabetes or something?
22:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I looked it up.
22:40
SPEAKER_01: Because like with that scene in the beginning, where she's Yeah, like is this real?
22:44
SPEAKER_00: And it is.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: It's like severe hypoglycemia can cause like being irrational and not knowing where you are.
22:49
SPEAKER_00: Because I was like, she's very argumentative.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: Like I wasn't expecting that.
22:53
SPEAKER_00: But it is.
22:55
SPEAKER_00: They basically have like they short circuit essentially and just can't function.
22:59
SPEAKER_00: But they can do it in like a combative way.
23:01
SPEAKER_00: So the real Susan's husband, Dr.
23:03
SPEAKER_00: Pat Robinson, remarried three to five months after she died.
23:08
unknown: Jeez.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: The rapid remarriage and hearing his nephew call his new stepmother mama filled Robert with such intense grief and anger that he began writing in the hopes it would ensure his nephew would never forget his mother.
23:20
SPEAKER_00: He wrote the play in 10 days.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: Originally it wasn't intended to be a comedy, but as people came to the play and responded to the actresses, he realized how much humor there was as well as tragedy.
23:29
SPEAKER_00: And I think that that's one of the like best things about this is that that's life.
23:34
SPEAKER_00: When you're grieving, sometimes you do start laughing about something.
23:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: You know, and I think that that's why it plays so well.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: That's what makes them it's so funny.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: Like the movie is there's so many things in it that really stand out.
23:48
SPEAKER_00: Unlike the movie, the play only features the women, so you never meet the men, you only hear about them, and the entire thing takes place at the hair salon.
23:54
SPEAKER_00: He based them all on his mom's friends, who he remembered from childhood, and he was actually concerned that the real life weezer would recognize herself and be offended by her cranky and brutally honest portrayal.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: But as all the women from his hometown came to see it, they all were like, Am I Weezer?
24:09
SPEAKER_00: They all saw themselves in her.
24:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: He's actually in the movie.
24:12
SPEAKER_00: He's the pastor that married Shelby and Jackson.
24:15
SPEAKER_00: And the medical staff that cared for Shelby in the movie was the same one that cared for his sister.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: So the woman who turned the machine off was the woman who turned the machine off for his sister.
24:27
SPEAKER_01: One thing I'll say about that, like, first of all, I cried like three times.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: Like at the end, because like things just kept happening.
24:33
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I'm just like a little emotional right now.
24:35
SPEAKER_01: And Tosh was looking at me like, You okay?
24:37
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, having a hard time.
24:39
SPEAKER_01: But like, I what what took me out of it, and I knew I know that this must have stuck out in your brain too, right?
24:44
SPEAKER_01: So it might be like when she was just there by herself, Melin taking care of her and like reading her magazines and stuff.
24:50
SPEAKER_01: But at one point, her brothers do come and then she goes right up to him and kisses him right on the lips.
24:54
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, hi.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: Did you notice that?
24:57
SPEAKER_00: That's a big I feel like that's a you're a lip kisser or not a lip.
25:01
SPEAKER_00: Tom Brady's a lip kisser.
25:03
SPEAKER_01: I know, and it's alarming.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: Stunning.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm a lip kisser.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm a lip kisser with Remy right now because I go, give me a kissy, and she'll go and give me a kiss right on the lips.
25:11
SPEAKER_00: And I say I love you.
25:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, but a baby lip kisser.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: But my kids know.
25:15
SPEAKER_00: No.
25:16
SPEAKER_00: Dylan when they're 17.
25:17
SPEAKER_00: Dylan for a while there when she was like seven, she would always try.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: She thought it was like funny to try and kiss me on the lips.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: And she'll she'd walk up and she'd go, give me those whippies.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: And she would like try to.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: I go to give her a kiss on the cheek and she'd like try to turn her face to kiss me.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, Dylan, you can't, we can't be lip kissing.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: Too old.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: But it was like, give me those whippies.
25:40
SPEAKER_00: It was so funny.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, no, not in general.
25:43
SPEAKER_00: I'm not a kisser of like I don't I'll hug my parents.
25:48
SPEAKER_01: I'm definitely not kissing my fucking parents.
25:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't remember if I don't even know if I ever did.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm not doing I that affection in general is hard for me.
25:56
SPEAKER_01: It's overrated.
25:58
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't, yeah, I'm besides my immediate family, Tucker and the kids, absolutely.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: But I don't know.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: Not for me.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm not a comfortable hugger.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: I never know how to interact with people when I see them after a long time.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: Are we hugging?
26:09
SPEAKER_00: Are we shaking hands?
26:10
SPEAKER_01: Like it's just Are we kissing on the lips?
26:12
SPEAKER_00: Are we kissing on the lips?
26:16
SPEAKER_00: So then once the play gained popularity, the film rights were bought, the casting process began.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: There wasn't a ton of what ifs in the casting process.
26:24
SPEAKER_00: Sally Field was always wanted for Melin.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: Shirley McLean, like I said, they went to her and were like, take your pick.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: Who do you want to be?
26:30
SPEAKER_00: And like she was like, I want to be the really bitchy one.
26:33
SPEAKER_00: Shelby originally, guess who almost played Shelby?
26:36
SPEAKER_00: Do you have any guesses?
26:37
SPEAKER_00: There's two, and they're both incredibly famous actresses.
26:40
SPEAKER_01: Gina Davis?
26:41
SPEAKER_00: Nope.
26:42
SPEAKER_01: That was a good guess.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: But that would be actually there was one who was hired and ready to go and then had to drop out for another role, and that was Meg Ryan.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I can see it.
26:51
SPEAKER_00: And she dropped out for When Harry Met Sally.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: Smart.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, adjacent, right?
26:57
SPEAKER_00: Adjacent, but also like I don't know if I can picture Meg Ryan in this role.
27:01
SPEAKER_00: I think it would have changed the trajectory of her career if she had done this instead of When Harry Met Sally.
27:06
SPEAKER_01: So I was telling my son Ben, who was like kind of just in and out when we were watching it.
27:11
SPEAKER_01: And he and when it was, they were showing Darryl Hannon.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: I was like, this was like considered like, I don't know, was she like a what would you call her?
27:17
SPEAKER_01: Like one of the most beautiful women, right?
27:19
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, they actually almost didn't hire her because she was too beautiful.
27:23
SPEAKER_00: And then she showed up basically disguised as Anelle on set, and they wouldn't let her onto the set because they didn't recognize her.
27:30
SPEAKER_01: So do you what do you think though?
27:32
SPEAKER_01: Because like I it's because my sons now I kind of like showed them all, and they're all like none of them get it.
27:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, they're all like she's alright.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, not in this movie.
27:40
SPEAKER_00: What about splash with her bum hanging out?
27:42
SPEAKER_01: Splash with the bum hanging out, great, but like even in splash, they're like, That's that's considered like a wicked hot lady in the 80s.
27:50
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Yeah, yeah, because she looks like a real person.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they were like, No.
27:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
27:55
SPEAKER_01: I was like, This is what a person is supposed to look like.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the other person who was considered was Wynona Ryder, but she was too, she was too young.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: She would have been way too young, I feel like.
28:05
SPEAKER_01: Too young, and she has like um, I like her a lot, but she has a a likability problem, I think, sometimes.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh she also doesn't strike Southern, even in Mermaids when they were supposed to be kind of a little bit of that vibe, like she stuck out like a sore thumb.
28:21
SPEAKER_00: She was great in mermaids.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: But she I would imagine she would have been like a teenager in this movie.
28:26
SPEAKER_00: And Shelby, I Julia Roberts was 21, but I think she's supposed to be around 23, 24.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: You know who, like speaking of one on our movies in her catalog, you know who would have fit right in the salon?
28:38
SPEAKER_01: Who?
28:38
SPEAKER_01: Edward Scissorhands.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: Imagine the gossip they would have said about him.
28:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: So Elizabeth Taylor actually saw the play, and she was super into it and called up Betty Davis and was like, you should be Weezer in this.
28:53
SPEAKER_00: Catherine Hepburn would make a fantastic clarity, which I kind of think Catherine Hepburn vibes for Weezer.
28:59
SPEAKER_00: She's a little rough around the edges.
29:01
SPEAKER_01: Well, there's a lady because there's a lot of like similarities with like the Yayas Yaya sisterhood.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: And the lady who is the grumpy one in that is great.
29:10
SPEAKER_01: Well, they're all grumpy in that one.
29:12
SPEAKER_01: There's plenty, there's plenty of people who could do this, this grumpy, but Weezer was pretty perfect.
29:16
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I can't picture anyone.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: I they're all perfect, honestly.
29:19
SPEAKER_00: I can't picture anyone else.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: So the director was widely established to be a huge asshole.
29:23
SPEAKER_00: He frequently would tell the actresses they couldn't act, and he would make Julia Roberts cry in between takes.
29:29
SPEAKER_00: He snapped at Dolly Parton and questioned if she could act.
29:32
SPEAKER_00: She said back, No, but it's your job to make me look like I can.
29:36
SPEAKER_00: So the actresses all kind of rallied together, which makes me wonder if that was like a move.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: Like, isn't that like a thing coaches do sometimes?
29:43
SPEAKER_00: They'll be assholes, so like the team will Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:46
SPEAKER_01: Like that was a move.
29:47
SPEAKER_01: He was probably it sounds like he was just an asshole.
29:48
SPEAKER_00: He was probably just an asshole.
29:49
SPEAKER_00: But like also, why are you directing this movie if you're not into women?
29:54
SPEAKER_00: You know, like the whole thing.
29:56
SPEAKER_00: Filming took place from July 12th, 1988 to September 1988 in Nachitogis.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if I'm saying that right.
30:04
SPEAKER_00: Louisiana.
30:05
SPEAKER_00: It's where he grew up, so it's where the it was based on where it happened.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: And the house where it was filmed is a bed and breakfast now, allegedly, which I need to go.
30:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm actually going to Louisiana in a couple months, but not to Nachitotis, unfortunately.
30:20
SPEAKER_01: New Orleans?
30:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
30:21
SPEAKER_00: My college friends and I are going.
30:23
SPEAKER_00: I texted him one day and I was like, the time is now, let's do it.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: So we're going and we're gonna go in like more like witchy New Orleans.
30:29
SPEAKER_01: Go on a ghost tour, voodoo, not like Mardi Gras.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I want to be in bed by 10:30.
30:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
30:37
SPEAKER_00: But I want to go and get a little tipsy on a riverboat cruise, you know.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sounds great.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: It was released November 15th, 1989, and it was a success.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: It made 97 million dollars on a 15 million dollar budget.
30:48
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so here's where I'm gonna talk about the names in the ages, okay?
30:51
SPEAKER_00: Just so we can have that clear because I never really knew that this was how it was.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: Sally Fields, how old do you think she was in this movie?
30:57
SPEAKER_01: 43.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: 42.
30:59
SPEAKER_00: She's my age.
31:00
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
31:01
SPEAKER_00: Her name is Melyn.
31:03
SPEAKER_00: M Apostrophe.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: Apostrophe is the one on top, right?
31:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:07
unknown: Yeah.
31:08
SPEAKER_00: M apostrophe, capital L Y N N.
31:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, weird name.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: Weird name.
31:14
SPEAKER_00: Julia Roberts, Shelby.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: Guess how old?
31:16
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna have you guess how old all of them are.
31:18
SPEAKER_01: How she well, how she really how Julie Roberts was.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, how old Julie Roberts was.
31:22
SPEAKER_00: I think I said it already, actually.
31:23
SPEAKER_01: 24.
31:24
SPEAKER_00: 21.
31:25
SPEAKER_00: Damn it.
31:25
SPEAKER_00: Glad that you paid attention.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: Dolly Parton, she's true V, which you know how that's spelled because she had this thing.
31:31
SPEAKER_00: How old?
31:32
SPEAKER_01: Dolly Parton in this is 41.
31:36
SPEAKER_00: 43.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: Damn it.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: So she's your age.
31:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 44, actually.
31:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm 44.
31:41
SPEAKER_00: Shirley McLean, Weezer O-U-I-S-E-R.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: She's 64.
31:46
SPEAKER_00: 55.
31:47
SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
31:48
unknown: Thanks.
31:49
SPEAKER_00: Daryl Hannah is a Nell.
31:52
SPEAKER_01: 28.
31:52
SPEAKER_00: 28! You got it.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: We finally got one.
31:55
SPEAKER_00: And Olympia Dukakis is Claire.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: Claire with an extra E at the end.
32:00
SPEAKER_01: Ooh, what else is that's that name is so so familiar.
32:02
SPEAKER_01: What else is she in?
32:03
SPEAKER_00: That name is so familiar.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: First of all, I I actually was like, this is the greatest stage name of all time.
32:09
SPEAKER_00: It might even be a real name.
32:10
SPEAKER_01: Michael Dukakis ran for president back in the 80s.
32:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that doesn't have anything to do with this.
32:15
SPEAKER_00: I know.
32:16
SPEAKER_00: Um Olympia Dukakis, she's been in a million things.
32:19
SPEAKER_00: I can't think of one, but um, let me look.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she's been in a million things.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: Let me well, a lot of like 70s stuff.
32:31
SPEAKER_00: National Lampoon goes to the movies.
32:33
SPEAKER_00: I didn't, she was in Moonstruck.
32:35
SPEAKER_00: Okay, Moonstruck.
32:36
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yes.
32:36
SPEAKER_00: Moonstruck's great.
32:37
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: Working girl.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: Look who's talking.
32:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh look who's talking to.
32:42
SPEAKER_00: I want to say she was the Christiali's mom, wasn't she?
32:45
SPEAKER_01: She was Christiale's mom.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: Look who's talking now?
32:48
SPEAKER_00: We should do the trio.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: We should do it.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: We should do that.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: No, we should do uh three men and a lady.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, absolutely, 100%.
32:55
SPEAKER_00: Three men and a little late.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: Well, we should do the baby too, but I'd rather focus on the second one.
32:59
SPEAKER_00: That's one of my favorites.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: Mr.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: Holland's Opus, Picture Perfect, that Jennifer Aniston movie.
33:04
SPEAKER_00: Remember where she and the guy Jay Moore were in that.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, Jay Moore.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: Remember him?
33:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:10
SPEAKER_00: No, he's really, he's really, and then she's I mean, she was working up until 2021.
33:16
SPEAKER_00: And that was just movies.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: She was on that show Joan of Arc.
33:20
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
33:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, Olympia Dukakis is she's a legend.
33:24
SPEAKER_00: Oh, she does she was working until she died.
33:26
SPEAKER_00: She died in 2021.
33:27
SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
33:28
SPEAKER_00: So she was 58.
33:30
SPEAKER_00: But I love that these women aren't supposed to be young, you know, they're supposed to be weathered and seasoned and comfortable in their skin, you know.
33:38
SPEAKER_00: Like it's not seeing women find themselves.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: I feel like for that time, although I don't know, the 80s, like you have golden girls.
33:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, people are into it.
33:46
SPEAKER_00: I feel like they did more now with these women, and then they took like a 20-year break, and now it's like popular again.
33:52
SPEAKER_00: Grace and Frankie did a lot for that too.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: Did you ever watch that?
33:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
33:56
SPEAKER_00: It was a great show.
33:57
SPEAKER_00: That was so funny.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let's talk about the movie.
33:59
SPEAKER_00: The opening scene, I love so much.
34:00
SPEAKER_00: The music, like what whatever happened to a great score?
34:04
SPEAKER_01: I know.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it really sets the scene.
34:06
SPEAKER_00: It really, I was just gonna say that.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: It really sets the scene.
34:11
SPEAKER_00: We open on Daryl Hannah, who uh is probably has one of the greatest, like not disguises, but like you don't see Daryl Hannah at all.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: It was a she's all that, like, oh, I'm I'm ugly.
34:24
SPEAKER_00: I never take off my glasses.
34:26
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't just she's all that because in she's all that she had a lot of confidence.
34:29
SPEAKER_00: It was her demeanor, like her act the way she changes throughout the film when she goes from the you know, abused wife to the little mini truvy to the religious zealot.
34:41
SPEAKER_00: Yes, is like the her demeanor changes so much.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: It's just really it's a really well-done character, I think.
34:49
SPEAKER_00: And I do really like how you have the idea of the newcomer because coming into something like this, you could see them having a lot of inside jokes, a lot of stories where they talk about people and having a newcomer come in, they have to explain all this.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: So I think it's a really good, like, storytelling device the way they did it.
35:06
SPEAKER_01: That's smart.
35:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's Easter weekend, which is full circle because it ends on Easter weekend, also.
35:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you know what?
35:13
SPEAKER_01: Like, I just to add to the beginning of the league, it's very it sets the scene as like very chaotic.
35:18
SPEAKER_01: Things are very chaotic.
35:20
SPEAKER_01: It's like a lot going on, you know.
35:21
SPEAKER_00: I know, but more importantly, you're using real eggs for the Easter egg hub.
35:26
SPEAKER_00: People do that.
35:26
SPEAKER_00: That's dangerous.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: You are asking.
35:28
SPEAKER_00: There's an episode of Gilmore Girls about it where all of a sudden everyone starts smelling this horrible smell and they realize that they didn't find all of the Easter eggs.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:37
SPEAKER_00: I wonder how much some of these homes cost nowadays.
35:41
SPEAKER_00: You know, you know that you're old when like your first thought when seeing a beautiful house is like, what's the zestimate on that?
35:46
SPEAKER_01: I know, I know.
35:47
SPEAKER_01: Square footage.
35:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, basically.
35:49
SPEAKER_00: How many bathrooms are in this house?
35:52
SPEAKER_00: She gets to her destination, which is Truvi's hair salon.
35:55
SPEAKER_00: We find out she's also staying at Ruth Robeline's boarding house.
35:58
SPEAKER_00: What like what's that?
35:59
SPEAKER_00: I picture it like the upstairs at Eddie's, where like remember is like the sad man apartments, yeah, and like they all shared a bathroom and like a I always remember it being like every time I would get down, I'd be like, Well, I don't live upstairs at Eddie's.
36:14
unknown: That's good.
36:16
SPEAKER_00: That's like rock bottom, pretty much.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: That's when you have to be like there was somebody, there was somebody that she lived upstairs at Eddie's?
36:23
SPEAKER_00: I she didn't live upstairs at Eddy's, but her car was there so much that I thought it was somebody that lived upstairs at Eddy's.
36:31
SPEAKER_02: That's funny, actually.
36:33
SPEAKER_00: Which is sad.
36:33
SPEAKER_00: All right, so we head over to the Eatonons and find out a wedding is taking place.
36:38
SPEAKER_00: Drum is shooting at the trees to get the birds out, which seems like the worst plan ever.
36:43
SPEAKER_00: I picture a lot of the birds probably shitting.
36:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like yeah, it's and it's it's ineffective.
36:48
SPEAKER_01: They just come right back.
36:49
SPEAKER_00: What exactly?
36:50
SPEAKER_00: Like, what is it gonna buy you?
36:51
SPEAKER_00: Five minutes?
36:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and also I'm pretty sure that you're not supposed to just shoot bullets into the air.
36:57
SPEAKER_01: Well, in the South in the 80s, you can pretty much do whatever you want.
37:00
SPEAKER_00: Throwing a wedding at your house is the craziest thing I've ever heard of.
37:03
SPEAKER_00: The amount of money it would cost to transform your house into it.
37:07
SPEAKER_00: Like, remember in Father of the Bride when they did it, and it's like, this doesn't even look like your house.
37:10
SPEAKER_00: Like, why is it here?
37:11
SPEAKER_00: Why didn't you just get married at a whole like have the reception at a hotel?
37:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
37:16
SPEAKER_01: Are you saving money?
37:17
SPEAKER_01: Are you saving a ton of money?
37:18
SPEAKER_00: You're not saving any money.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: All right.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
37:22
SPEAKER_00: I mean, unless you're having the wedding that Steve Martin pictured them having when they first asked him to have the wedding in the backyard, or it's like a cookout.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: No, if you're bringing in a tent and all that furniture, if you ever get married at a venue that doesn't, well, and this is good for you because you're planning a wedding, aren't you?
37:36
SPEAKER_00: Yep, you don't want to have to bring everything in because you have to pay for the forks, the napkins, the like whatever.
37:42
SPEAKER_00: Whereas if you go to a venue that has it, it's all there.
37:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that makes sense.
37:46
SPEAKER_00: It's just crazy.
37:47
SPEAKER_00: Shelby is concerned about her brothers putting rubbas on the car, which is funny.
37:51
SPEAKER_00: At the end of it, they leave.
37:52
SPEAKER_00: And that's the craziest thing about like movie weddings.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know, maybe they did used to do this, but like that you just leave and like go on your honeymoon.
38:00
SPEAKER_00: Like I'm Father of the Bride, she goes right to the airport.
38:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: Are you kidding me?
38:03
SPEAKER_00: I had a whole day.
38:04
SPEAKER_00: I mean, granted, I got married in Vermont and I went on my honeymoon on Monday.
38:08
SPEAKER_00: I was going to Italy, so like I needed a little time, but like leaving that night, Tucker and I were literally like drinking beers under the tent at 3:30 in the morning.
38:16
SPEAKER_00: We were the last people standing at our wedding.
38:19
SPEAKER_00: Damn.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: We were hanging out with the guy who was like the wedding coordinator.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: Because we just didn't want the night to end.
38:27
SPEAKER_00: I can't imagine leaving your party that you paid for and everyone's there.
38:31
SPEAKER_01: I know that doesn't make sense.
38:32
SPEAKER_01: I've always wondered about that too.
38:33
SPEAKER_01: So the party goes on and they're just gone.
38:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and like that's a no, thank you.
38:37
SPEAKER_00: So drum has to come inside and take a shit, and he's like, Oh, get me the sports section.
38:41
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Oh, that's what men did before they could be on their phones.
38:44
SPEAKER_00: But like, I still don't, I don't get it.
38:47
SPEAKER_00: Like, is it fun?
38:48
SPEAKER_00: Like, why do men poop for so long?
38:50
SPEAKER_00: What is that?
38:52
SPEAKER_00: Is it fun or is it just like to take a break?
38:55
SPEAKER_01: That that too, it's all of it.
38:57
SPEAKER_01: Just hanging out, you know.
38:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
39:00
SPEAKER_01: There's something about it.
39:01
SPEAKER_00: There's something, it's wild.
39:02
SPEAKER_00: They head to the salon where we meet Clary.
39:05
SPEAKER_00: She shows up the first thing.
39:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm a little embarrassed, I'm windblown.
39:08
SPEAKER_00: Like her hair looks exactly the same.
39:10
SPEAKER_00: The lighting in this movie is incredible.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: It's just such a like, ooh, you know, you get that feeling that, like, yeah, you love this.
39:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just like this is the best.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: Just these people.
39:19
SPEAKER_00: We meet Miss Weezer.
39:21
SPEAKER_00: Someone it starts out, someone goes, Hi, Miss Weezer, and she goes, Oh, leave me alone.
39:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
39:25
SPEAKER_00: We hear about the wedding, blush and bashful.
39:27
SPEAKER_00: What do you think about blush and bashful?
39:29
SPEAKER_01: Pink and pink.
39:30
SPEAKER_00: Her colors are blush and bashful.
39:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:33
SPEAKER_00: Um, I get it.
39:34
SPEAKER_00: I get the difference because blush is just like a slightly tinted pink, a pale pink, and then bashful, you're embarrassed.
39:42
SPEAKER_00: It's a reddish pink.
39:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: It's like almost, yeah, okay.
39:45
SPEAKER_01: All right, they're different colors, but they're both pink.
39:47
SPEAKER_00: I they are pink and pink.
39:49
SPEAKER_00: Did you notice that at the end when she on her casket, the flowers are blush and bashful?
39:54
SPEAKER_00: I didn't.
39:55
SPEAKER_00: Damn.
39:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I didn't either.
39:56
SPEAKER_00: Somebody pointed it out.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: So speaking of this, this is when we find out about her diabetes.
40:01
SPEAKER_00: It is quite the reaction.
40:03
SPEAKER_00: But it is and I guess it like kind of sparked some shit where like diabetes patients were calling their doctors, being like, Is this gonna happen to me?
40:10
SPEAKER_00: Like they were like, it was freak out, like freak the fuck out.
40:14
SPEAKER_00: But it's really it's a worst case scenario.
40:16
SPEAKER_00: Like, that's not something that's happening all the time.
40:18
SPEAKER_00: But the craziest part is as she's like coming down, Lynn's like, children aren't a possibility.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: It's like maybe she doesn't want everybody to know that.
40:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she's right there.
40:28
SPEAKER_00: She's not like in the coma.
40:30
SPEAKER_01: I always wondered, is like, is that why I was wondering, is that why like the condoms like we use all these condoms because you shouldn't be having children?
40:37
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
40:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't know.
40:39
SPEAKER_00: I think that they were just teenage boys thinking it was funny.
40:43
SPEAKER_00: Something uh interesting I was thinking about is how the play was written by her brother, but the brothers are like nothing in the movie.
40:50
SPEAKER_01: I know.
40:50
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's that's actually kind of nice that he chose to frame it around the mother's point of view.
40:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, who's great?
40:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, she's a great mom.
40:58
SPEAKER_00: So we head to the wedding.
40:59
SPEAKER_00: The groom's cake always stood out to me, packing into that poor thing.
41:02
SPEAKER_00: The groom's cake, the armadilla.
41:04
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes, yes, yes.
41:06
SPEAKER_01: I like I I thought that was I thought uh Weezer was foreshouting when she was like, Are you do you only do armadillos?
41:11
SPEAKER_01: I thought she was gonna like do some kind of funny cake or something.
41:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I don't think Weezer gets a lot of cakes.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: So now we flash after the wedding ends.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: We flash to Christmas.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: So I'm assuming it's later that year, that same year.
41:24
SPEAKER_01: It does jump quite a bit.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: It well, it goes through holidays.
41:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, which I don't know that I uh necessarily realize that the first, but like you think about it, it's Easter and then Christmas and then Fourth of July and then holiday.
41:36
SPEAKER_01: Well, then there's like a baby then like the baby's like born.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: You don't see the baby born, you see him on his first birthday, yeah, the fourth of July.
41:43
SPEAKER_00: The Yankee Doodle Dandy.
41:44
SPEAKER_00: Remember, they were singing and they had a yeah.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: So before we get to that, it's Christmas, they're at a Christmas festival, which seems great.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: Like a nice Christmas festival, you just need a nice little crispy sweater.
41:54
SPEAKER_00: You don't need like that to me, that was it.
41:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
41:56
SPEAKER_01: That to me, that was like this is great.
41:58
SPEAKER_01: And they're just like making like eat seafood weirdly, but like still.
42:01
SPEAKER_00: Well, speaking of, did you see the full tray was ten dollars and the half tray was six dollars?
42:06
SPEAKER_00: Can you imagine a full tray country low country boil?
42:09
SPEAKER_00: Ten dollars.
42:10
SPEAKER_00: You couldn't get a potato for that.
42:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know, and you get what you get too because she's just kind of like scooping whatever.
42:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I bet it was good though.
42:17
SPEAKER_00: I'll eat anything from a country fair.
42:19
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't have standards.
42:21
SPEAKER_00: So Shelby, this is when Shelby tells Melyn she's pregnant, which is so tricky because you know that like this is all she wants, and like the line, I'd rather have 30 minutes of something wonderful than a lifetime of nothing special, is so poignant, but like that's your baby from Melyn's perspective.
42:37
SPEAKER_00: Like, that's your baby choosing to do something that is either going to kill them or seriously debilitate them.
42:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you know that, and then to know that it like actually comes true and it's like this is the I told you so that no one ever wants.
42:51
SPEAKER_01: But it wasn't it didn't I I my thought was like it would be really dangerous to the pregnancy and the delivery, and then once you get through that, it's like almost like in the clear.
42:59
SPEAKER_01: That's what I would have felt.
43:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it wasn't that way.
43:02
SPEAKER_00: No, did you catch her when she was like, I want a child of my own, I think it would help things.
43:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's like I was assuming that they're like marriage wasn't on the rocks, yeah.
43:12
SPEAKER_01: But they just got married, but then again, they were fighting before they even got married, so yeah, the scene he was framed as a jerk, but like towards the end, it didn't seem like he was a jerk.
43:21
SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, who he was based on was a jerk, yeah.
43:24
SPEAKER_01: But they didn't play with that at all.
43:26
SPEAKER_00: No, but they also like could he have signed off faster on her like pulling the plug?
43:30
SPEAKER_00: It was like, ah, here we go.
43:32
SPEAKER_00: Like, didn't even like I'd like to see a sigh, maybe, or something, you know, like this is a tough call.
43:39
SPEAKER_00: And how long?
43:39
SPEAKER_00: Well, anyways, we'll get to it.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: So the next scene, then he tells everybody, the dad tells everyone.
43:45
SPEAKER_00: They're all so excited.
43:46
SPEAKER_00: They all come and run into the room to see Melyn, and she kind of breaks the news to them that when they were like, Oh, they said she couldn't get pregnant, and she was like, No, they said she shouldn't get pregnant.
43:56
SPEAKER_00: Like that always stuck with me because the big difference.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Such a big difference.
44:01
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's like you may have no problem getting pregnant.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: She obviously had no problem getting pregnant.
44:06
SPEAKER_00: And then she has the baby.
44:08
SPEAKER_00: We flashed to Jackson's first birthday.
44:10
SPEAKER_00: It's the 4th of July.
44:11
SPEAKER_00: This I feel like is part of why I I don't know that I'd ever seen this movie as a parent.
44:17
SPEAKER_00: I've seen it dozens of times, but I don't know that I've watched it since I became a parent, or maybe it's because Jackson is pretty much I have a baby the same age as him that like it really fucking hit me.
44:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:29
SPEAKER_00: But it was also funny because like the whole thing's like, oh, Jackson doesn't have a mom and like Melin's my age.
44:35
SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, well, she could just be all right.
44:40
unknown: Yeah.
44:42
SPEAKER_00: She decides to cut her hair, which is I mean, seeing her from the long hair to the short hair is it's tough.
44:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not great.
44:50
SPEAKER_01: She looks like fucking Tinkerbell.
44:52
SPEAKER_00: She does look exactly like when she's Tinkerbell.
44:55
SPEAKER_00: And it's not a great haircut.
44:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna blame Truby, but this is what happens when you only have one hairdresser in the whole town.
45:01
SPEAKER_00: You know, you get what you get and you can't get upset.
45:03
SPEAKER_01: She gave her like the Lord Farquad.
45:06
SPEAKER_00: Like well, you couldn't have gotten a Bob.
45:09
SPEAKER_01: It's just like all right, yeah, it's strange to haircut, but whatever.
45:13
SPEAKER_01: He-Man.
45:14
SPEAKER_00: This is when we find out who's He-Man.
45:16
SPEAKER_01: You don't know who He-Man is?
45:17
SPEAKER_00: No, uh no.
45:18
SPEAKER_00: Who are you saying looks like He-Man?
45:19
SPEAKER_01: The haircut's He-Man.
45:21
SPEAKER_00: What Shelby's haircut?
45:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:23
SPEAKER_00: No.
45:23
SPEAKER_00: Shelby's haircut is like a boy haircut with like short on the sides.
45:27
SPEAKER_01: He-Man's a boy.
45:28
SPEAKER_00: She she doesn't have a Lord Farquad.
45:31
SPEAKER_00: That's a Bob.
45:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
45:32
SPEAKER_00: Lord Farquad is a Bob.
45:34
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
45:34
SPEAKER_00: That's not even close.
45:36
SPEAKER_01: I feel like that's what I'm seeing.
45:38
SPEAKER_01: Like a helmet.
45:39
SPEAKER_00: No, I cannot stress how not Lord Far Farquad.
45:45
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, like, you know the nuance, but I'm telling you right now.
45:48
SPEAKER_00: It's not even nuance.
45:51
SPEAKER_00: It's not even close.
45:53
SPEAKER_00: Like, I think she could have pulled off a Lord Farquad better than that monstrosity.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: We have to do a side by side on that.
45:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we gotta do a side-by-side.
46:00
SPEAKER_00: This is when we find out about Annelle's uptick in religion.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: This was a kind of a weird side plot.
46:05
SPEAKER_00: I don't know where it came from or where it went.
46:07
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: I guess they're trying to like show all of their journeys.
46:12
SPEAKER_00: You know, like because Annelle and Shelby are the two young ones.
46:15
SPEAKER_00: So, like Clary, Melin, Weezer, they're all like kind of set in their ways and they have their lives, whereas Annel and Shelby are kind of like figuring it out, I guess.
46:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:24
SPEAKER_00: We find out about the surgery, which it seems to go well.
46:27
SPEAKER_00: This is when they go to the grocery store after, and Weezer's like buying a bunch of beans.
46:32
SPEAKER_00: Well, when they buy the beans, she's like, We're not feeding drum till the end of time.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: I also love when she's talking about how she's like, I never should have said that about like my body giving out, whatever.
46:42
SPEAKER_00: And Clary's like, nobody pays attention to what you say.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: This, the two of them are like the great love story in this.
46:50
SPEAKER_00: Like the chemistry is off the charts.
46:52
SPEAKER_00: I wish they would have done something else together.
46:54
SPEAKER_00: I wonder if they did.
46:55
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they did.
46:56
SPEAKER_00: Now we're at a Halloween.
46:57
SPEAKER_00: It's Anel's bridal shower, which feels like you would not give someone who is super religious a monster-themed bridal shower.
47:04
SPEAKER_00: Especially she's like a religious, uh, super like over the top where they're like born again, kind of.
47:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
47:10
SPEAKER_00: Not even just like a regular Christian or whatever.
47:13
SPEAKER_00: So like it feels extra.
47:15
SPEAKER_00: And then crotchless panties weezer, come on.
47:17
SPEAKER_00: And then it's the horrible scene where she passes out, uh, she's home with the baby, and he comes home and he's just screaming.
47:23
SPEAKER_00: And that is my worst nightmare.
47:25
SPEAKER_00: I think about it all the time when I'm home with the baby.
47:27
SPEAKER_00: Picture her just like sitting for hours with like nobody here.
47:30
SPEAKER_00: This was when I was just crying the entire last yeah, you're not gonna just drop dead.
47:35
SPEAKER_00: You don't know that.
47:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh, get a phone.
47:37
SPEAKER_01: You could drop dead soon.
47:38
SPEAKER_00: I have a phone, and luckily, I don't have to go anywhere to get my phone because it's always in my hand.
47:42
SPEAKER_01: You're that worried to get the life alert button.
47:44
unknown: Life alert.
47:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but if I'm you know, you never know.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: I the other day I had a little bit of a pain in my head, and I was like, what if this is a brain aneurysm?
47:51
SPEAKER_01: What if this is what if it is, right?
47:54
SPEAKER_01: Like, what are we gonna do?
47:55
SPEAKER_00: Like a brain aneurysm is like one of the better ways to go.
47:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe because it could just be in your sleep, you know.
48:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't think I'm strong enough to like battle something for like a long period of time.
48:07
SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, that's when I find out.
48:10
SPEAKER_00: So then they're in the hospital, it's just awful.
48:13
SPEAKER_00: Like it was uh seeing her when they're like, You should go get something to eat.
48:17
SPEAKER_00: She's like, What if she wakes up for two minutes and I'm not here?
48:19
SPEAKER_00: And I get that.
48:20
SPEAKER_00: But I also am like, oh my god, I please don't let this happen to my kids because I don't think I have the fortitude to sit in the hospital for 24 hours a day.
48:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, most people don't, but you'd be surprised if it was.
48:30
SPEAKER_00: I'd be like, Can I take a nap in the can we get a double room so I can nap a little bit here and there after she dies?
48:37
SPEAKER_00: Melyn goes to pick up Jackson and you see how, like, and this is what the whole movie is about.
48:41
SPEAKER_00: Like, life goes on, like, you know, there's good and bad.
48:44
SPEAKER_00: You see how him coming out and running to her, it's like a single moment of joy.
48:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
48:48
SPEAKER_00: And how he's gonna be the only thing that makes everyone happy for a long time, probably.
48:53
SPEAKER_01: It's very lion king.
48:54
SPEAKER_00: It's very lion-king.
48:55
SPEAKER_00: Funeral scene, such a beautiful scene, you know, just the funny the bench scene when they're pushing each other off the bench.
49:02
SPEAKER_00: And you just feel her so deeply how she's like, I just don't understand why her.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: Like, why couldn't it be me?
49:08
SPEAKER_01: I couldn't.
49:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what did you think about what Annelle said to her, though.
49:11
SPEAKER_01: I thought that was kind of nice in a way.
49:13
SPEAKER_01: I know, but like you don't say that on one hand.
49:16
SPEAKER_00: I don't think that's a it's kinda you know, they're in a better place.
49:20
SPEAKER_00: Well, fuck you.
49:20
SPEAKER_00: I don't want them to be in a better place.
49:22
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, not so much that they're in a better place, like I don't think it was just that better place thing.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: It's just like I mean, you she has to sort of believe that in a way that she's looking down on them all, kinda.
49:33
SPEAKER_01: She's always gonna be young, she's always gonna be beautiful, like that kind of stuff.
49:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, but of everyone that that I know that has experienced a profound loss, like not a grandmother, like a child or a sister or a or a parent, you know, whatever, the people who handle it the best are like the religious people for sure.
49:50
SPEAKER_00: Of course, like there's a reason why we Yeah, you can feel at peace about it because what else do you have to do?
49:57
SPEAKER_00: You know, but that and that's it.
49:58
SPEAKER_00: Then they start thinking at that odd scene at the end.
50:02
SPEAKER_00: The way they end it is interesting.
50:03
SPEAKER_00: They're like flashing on the bunny, right?
50:06
SPEAKER_00: And I guess it's like life goes on, you know?
50:08
SPEAKER_00: Life goes on.
50:09
SPEAKER_00: There's gonna be a new Shelby in town.
50:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's weird that the kids smack Weezer.
50:13
SPEAKER_01: I thought that was a little over the top.
50:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I probably disciplined the shit out of that.
50:18
SPEAKER_00: I know, but it's weezer, so nobody like cared.
50:20
SPEAKER_01: No one cares.
50:21
SPEAKER_00: It's like another great Weezer line.
50:23
SPEAKER_00: I'm not crazy, I've just been in a very bad mood for 40 years.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
50:27
SPEAKER_00: That is a great one.
50:28
SPEAKER_00: That is a great line.
50:29
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, and that's it.
50:30
SPEAKER_01: Great movie.
50:31
SPEAKER_00: Great movie.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad that we finally did this.
50:34
SPEAKER_00: Great movie.
50:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, anything else?
50:35
SPEAKER_00: Final thoughts?
50:36
SPEAKER_00: I think that's it.
50:36
SPEAKER_01: I think that's it.
50:37
SPEAKER_01: I really surprised that I enjoyed it as much as I did.
50:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm so glad.
50:41
SPEAKER_00: I can't believe you've never seen it before.
50:42
SPEAKER_01: Seal Magnolia is checked off.
50:45
SPEAKER_00: I know this was one of my like big ones that I've been waiting to do for a long time.
50:49
SPEAKER_00: So I'm glad it's finally on streaming.
50:51
SPEAKER_00: But all right, on that note, wait, wait and review us.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: Now that we're back, we've put in the work.
50:57
SPEAKER_00: My dad the other day was like, These 6 45 a.m.
51:00
SPEAKER_00: episodes.
51:01
SPEAKER_01: I know, I know.
51:02
SPEAKER_00: I was like, see the dedication.
51:04
SPEAKER_01: I know we're putting the work, so yeah, at least the least you can do is review us.
51:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how to it got stuck on like it's stuck on a number for a really long time.
51:12
SPEAKER_01: So, like, let's let's yeah, a couple reviews.
51:14
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we didn't put in we we've really slacked off.
51:17
SPEAKER_00: I didn't want people because I didn't want them reviewing and being like these motherfuckers just disappear with the drop of a hat.
51:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
51:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:24
SPEAKER_00: All right, we will see you next week.
51:26
SPEAKER_01: See you next week.
51:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, as somebody always said, if you can't say anything nice about anybody, come sit by me.