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105: Welcome to Plathville (S5E11) / 90 Day Fiancé (S10E6) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Welcome to reality TV Cringe. I am one of your hosts, Delia here
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  with my real Night home girl Beatrice. Hi, how are you doing tonight?
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  You seem cranky, you seem spicy? Just get all are you even
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  talking about? When I came over here, You're like, I'm feeling manic.
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  I'm feeling a little weird. I'm feeling spicy tonight. So it might
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  be a little fun, might be a little farm drinking, well just a
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  little bit, just a little bit. And when I drink whiskey, I
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  especially get spicy crazy. Yeah, your daughter's like that too. Yeah,
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  So who knows what's gonna happen tonight? Pray for me? All right,
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  we are here the gathering of the raccoons in this dumpster to discuss Welcome to
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  Plaithfill and also ninety day feet on say. Very excited to get into all
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  we just want to jump right into plas Ye. I'm so excited about it.
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  I know you were texting me last night. You're like, ooh,
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  this one was Julie, it was Jessey. I was watching it late last
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  night eating mus snacks. I'm like, oh, we got allowed to talk
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  about from this episode. Well, let's talk about major takeaways after you watched
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  the episode, I'm sure two or three times like I did. Like,
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  what are some of your lingering thoughts about the Plaths and Olivia? A lot
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  of drama, there's drama with Olivia, there's drama with Mariah, Yes,
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  drama with Kim and her hoe phase. I'm just like, Wow, there's
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  some things going on, and Micah is based. Yes, he is with
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  it. He is analyzing everybody in this family, especially his mom. I'm
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  like, I'm loving it. Yeah, he's so mellow and neutral, Like
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  he clearly has an opinion about Olivia. Yeah, but he's not pushy with
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  it. He's not punitive with it. He just kind of hangs back and
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  lets Ethan do the talking, yeah, and then just makes little comments.
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  I really really liked Mica in this episode too. My major take way is
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  that I think what we are observing as Raccoons is a narcissistic injury in progress.
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  So like a narcissistic injury is when a narcissist is offended, their self
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  worth is challenged, they feel abandoned and or rejected. And I think Olivia
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  reaching out to Micah to try and have that one on one meeting was like
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  a really important overture for her in terms of like how she felt about her
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  power within the relationship and within the family. And I think it was like
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  she was hoping that he would say yes and accept her. Yeah, And
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  so then when he doesn't, he's like, nah, I just want to
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  keep it light. I just want to go to the bar. I don't
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  want to have like an argument on my only day in Minnesota. Thanks,
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  but no, thanks. Ooh, I think it really good. Really hurt
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  her. Oh totally. She is triggered. She's really triggered. Yeah,
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  and she's trying to use all of her therapy speak to pretend that it's not
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  an injury, but it is. And I really think that this is the
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  catalyst to everything finally falling all apart. I felt the same way. Yep,
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  yep, especially at the end when she's talking to Lydia Grayce. I'm
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  like, Oh, she's ready to go. But I think Ethan's ready to
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  go too. He's over it. When we see the previews for next week
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  and they're having the conversation at the island, I'm just like, he already
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  knows it's done. Zo. Yes, I can't wait to get to that.
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  Yes, me too. Okay, let's start. Welcome to Platville season
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  five, episode eleven, entitled The Wheel is Come Full Circle has come full
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  Circle? The Wheel is come. I don't know Howney Shakespeare's twenty three.
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  We don't know how to speak Old English. We start with Ethan and Micah.
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  They have arrived in Nashville, They've spent the night, they're gonna get
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  back on the road again, and they have a conversation about the divorce.
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  Yeah, so, what are some of your thoughts here? I thought it
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  was interesting how they both don't agree with their mom dating while she is still
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  technically married. They're not legally divorced, they are just separated, and so
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  they both have very strong convictions with that. And this is where Micah starts
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  talking about Kim's daddy issues. Yeah, and I thought this was so awesome
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  that he just like pegged his mom, like, she didn't grow up with
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  a father figure. She grew up in a very broken home. And he's
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  like, even though it's kind of normal nowadays for people to have broken homes
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  and single parrots and stuff, he doesn't think it's a good thing because of
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  how his mother is acting right now and how she has daddy issues. And
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  she probably feels abandoned so she searches for it with other men. But why
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  wasn't she searching for the attention from other men for the first twenty five years
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  of her marriage. She seemed content to have the attention from Barry and have
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  the structure of her family, but something must have shifted and changed for her
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  to all of a sudden need the attention of another man. Yeah, I
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  don't understand. I don't understand it either. It's like something happened. Yeah.
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  I think Olivia says in this episode, like a flip has been switched
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  in her relationship, but it's almost like a flip has been switched with Kim.
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  Yes, and she's chucked it all. And I think Ethan is really
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  judgmental of his mother. I think in this moment he's trying to say,
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  well, I don't approve, but I'm not going to get into it because
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  there's nothing that I can say that'll change anything, and also nothing's going to
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  change the course of action. However, he's really resentful that his mom is
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  making all of these kinds of choices and decisions that will have lifelong impacts on
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  his little sisters. Yes, and she doesn't even seem to really be thinking
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  about it. Yes, I'm so glad they brought this up, because this
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  is what we've been saying for the last several weeks, that Kim is just
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  acting very immature, and she doesn't give a shit about how any of her
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  kids feel, especially the littles. And I think it was Mica that was
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  like saying that this is the kid, the little kids's most formative years and
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  that this is really damaging to them. And so they're just trying their best
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  as older siblings to be there for them as much as possible. And I'm
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  like, that's awesome, It is awesome. I'm glad they're growing up a
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  little bit in this way, yes, and they're looking for ways that they
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  can kind of fill in or stand in the gap and be there for their
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  younger siblings. They also bring up Barry and they talk about Barry has essentially
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  been doing everything right compared to Kim at the very least, like he's not
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  drinking alcohol, which I thought was interesting. And I'm wondering has the duy
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  taken place? It has right, because the DUI took place like she was
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  pulled over summer of twenty twenty two, and I'm talking about Kim Plath,
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  Yeah, and then I think they finally arrested her fall of twenty twenty two.
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  So I think the footage we're watching when they're driving up to Minnesota and
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  it's obviously winter. This is well past Kim having been arrested. Yeah,
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  so TLC is intentionally keeping the information off, which is kind of lame because
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  we all know what happened, or I would love to know more context about
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  it, but oh well, we're not going to find out. But I
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  think Ethan is kind of passively aggressively calling his mom out for the drinking.
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  I love to see it well, because for twenty five years you said drinking
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  is bad, sugar is bad, television is bad, yeavies are bad,
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  born is bad, women are bad, Olivia is bad, and now all
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  of a sudden, you're out here just slang in the poon girl crazy your
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  box. Eight. Yes. Micah asks at the end of this particular segment
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  whether Olivia knows that he's coming, and Ethan kind of equivocates. He says
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  yes, and he thinks she's cool with it. But in reality, Ethan
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  hasn't told Olivia that Mike's coming. He doesn't even know if he's going to
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  take Migah to the apartment. He hasn't told Mike God that Olivia's pissed it
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  him. He hasn't told anybody anything he's just hoping to show up in Minnesota
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  and have everything be okay. This is so bad Ethan, classic Ethan,
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  so freaking bad, just because you're so conflict averse and you can't just be
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  honest with your brother. I mean, your brother will probably take it well,
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  but I'm like, Jesus, this is so bad. You can't just
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  like pretend like everything's fine and then hope that it'll work out for the best.
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  Like you know, this is gonna cause issues. You're literally setting up
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  your brother for like a bad situation, and not for nothing. You're also
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  setting up Olivia yep, who sounds like she'd like to be talking to you
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  throughout this particular trip, but you're not making contact with her. So she
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  wants to know what Mike is gonna do. Is you're gonna come to the
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  apartment where you guys gonna be and you're not communicating with her. So he's
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  just once again an emotional and communicative gripple, yep, And he's doing nothing
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  to better himself in a situation where he could probably do a lot to smooth
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  it over. Oh yeah, for sure. And I have been kind of
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  pro Ethan for a lot of this podcast because I feel for him, But
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  this episode was an episode where I'm like, Okay, Ethan, I can't
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  stand that this is how you live your life and how you conduct your relationships
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  with people like you are so emotionless and avoidant and you don't deal well with
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  conflict, And I'm like, this is really bad, a recipe for a
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  disaster with all of your relationships. And your family understands you and understands this
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  aspect of you, so they just deal with it. But other people like
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  Olivia, they're they're never going to be okay with it. And He's just
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  going along with it because it works for him. Because it works for him,
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  that's end. It keeps him as comfortable as possible as he can be
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  in any given situation. But like, this is really not going to work
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  long term, not with employers, not with future friendships, not with future
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  relationships. You're going to have to learn how to open your gadga Google mouth
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  and say your big boy words in order to solve conflict. Right, the
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  rest of us are out here doing it. We can It's possible, eat
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  that. Jesus, Mary and Joseph all right after this, we bop on
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  over to Tampa, Florida, We're back in Mariah's loft. Barry is in
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  town one day before her ballroom dancing exhibition, and they're having kind of a
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  nice daddy daughter moment. Yeah, she's making him hot chocolate, but you
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  know she's forgetting the chocolate. It's Mariah. And the subject of Ethan comes
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  up. Yeah, so Barry mentions that Ethan was in town, what a
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  few days ago prior to this or something, So I don't know when this
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  was filmed, but he mentions that Ethan was up in town and it was
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  nice to see him, but that Mariah was not there. And then Mariah
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  kind of talks about how she wishes things could be different because she doesn't want
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  to regret anything, doesn't want to regret not being in his life and not
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  being close, but doesn't really know how to bridge this gap between them.
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  Right. I thought this was a great conversation. I thought Barry could have
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  inserted a lot of opinions about what happened to him personally with Olivia and with
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  Ethan and with what he called like a season of conflict that he had with
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  them. Yeah, but he didn't. He really just kind of held space
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  from Mariah to wine and be depressed and to wonder what her Christian duty is
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  in terms of her brother, because it's something God forbid happened to Ethan or
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  what if he needed me and I just wasn't there. So she's moved by
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  what she possibly wouldn't be able to give Ethan, but she's not really moved
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  by her bad behavior that contributed right to the breakdown of the relationship. Yes,
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  and I think this was when she also mentions her text message to him,
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  and she says that I probably shouldn't have just opened up with oh,
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  I forgive you and not give him any context, because that just opened up
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  a can of worms, like I should have maybe said something different, I
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  should have just said hi, Yeah, exactly. So I was glad to
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  at least see some acknowledgment there from her and some self awareness, like she's
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  becoming sentient. She is a twenty year old dumb dumb, you know,
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  and she comes from an emotionally crippled family that doesn't know how to communicate at
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  all. So I'm glad to see that. I'm like, oh, you're
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  so dramatic. She's really dramatic, And Ethan a couple of times in this
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  episode calls her over dramatic and also dishonest with the way that she is handling
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  the situation with she Ethan and Olivia. But nonetheless, Mariah also says that,
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  you know, she thinks that her relationship with Ethan is fixable again.
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  She would want to be there for him. God forbid if something happened to
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  Ethan like what happened with Joshua, she would hate herself. Yeah, if
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  she hadn't done something to mend this relationship. And then she segues over into
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  discussion about Olivia and she's like, it's different with Olivia though, Yeah,
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  there's way more damage there. Hey, fuck that bitch, right, And
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  she's not willing. It doesn't seem she's willing at all. And Mike's not
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  willing either. I wouldn't to try to mend these fences. Yeah, there
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  would be over it well, because it doesn't seem like there is any room
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  to mend anything with Olivia. It seems like Olivia just wants them to say
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  sorry and for her to just be like, okay, cool, then we're
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  good now, Like, just apologize to me. I've done nothing wrong to
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  you too, I've been nothing but gracious to both of you. Does that
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  remind you of anybody, crybrows Robin Brown. Yes, yeah, all you
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  have to do is pledge your fealty and kiss my ring and you can come
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  back into the mcmachin and into the orderhouse and you could see my Dickenzie and
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  Valade. I've been building it up for years, for real. But yeah,
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  that's what Olivia wants. She says that she wants to have an adult
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  conversation, but what she really wants is to be absolutely seen and heard while
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  not seeing and hearing anybody else's side of the argument. I could be biased.
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  I we don't like her. I could be biased. At the end
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  of this segment, we have Mariah wondering if she should suggest that she and
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  Ethan just spend some time together doing something fun, Like, we don't have
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  to process the entire thing all at once. Maybe we can just handle it
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  step by step, a little by little, until ultimately we get over it.
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  Yeah. Although this doesn't necessarily happen in this episode, No, not
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  at all. No, and Barry encourages her, Yeah, to do something
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  like that. But a decent dad Kirie to me, how none of them
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  just want to tackle issues. I know, they just want to avoid it.
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  They have rugsweep for real. They just want to like have a good
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  time. Can't we just be a family? And then underneath all of that
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  is just this toxic sludge of dysfunction that they don't want to acknowledge. It's
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  so bad. That's how my family operates. Oh, we do not handle
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  conflict or deal with anything. Like everybody in the family will have problems with
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  each other and we'll talk shit about each other, similar to how the plaths
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  handle things, but they don't actually confront each other. We don't actually deal
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  with anything. He don't really. Yeah, I was really the only one
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  of my family that would actually bring up feelings that I felt because I'm the
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  only fire sign in the family and I can't just hold it all in.
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  But everybody else was like totally conflict averse. That's very interesting. So when
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  you first started asserting yourself and opening your throat shock with babes, So what
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  did your family do, Like, how did they even handle that? Well,
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  that depends on what family member I was bringing that up to, because
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  some were not very happy with that, and I would get yelled at or
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  really cooled or whatever. But you know, that's just how it is.
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  Some people can't deal with hard emotions, especially when it means that they are
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  at fault for something right that they may not think that they're at fault for.
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  So it damages their ego and it becomes this whole big old thing.
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  And it just seems like with the Plaths, they want to focus on their
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  family and their love and everything instead of all of the drama. Which I
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  can understand that to an extent, but when you have these bigger issues like
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  with Kim and with Olivia and with between Ethan and Mariah, like you can't
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  just sweep that shit under the rug. That's going to cause bitterness and resentment,
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  which is just going to make everything way worse. Well, let me
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  first share something and then ask you a question. I remember listening to this
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  podcast once and they were talking about empaths, and of course Robin Brown is
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  an EmPATH. Did you know that she's an empathy? But like, it's
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  the empaths in the family who feel things really, really deeply, And when
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  you have dysfunctional toxic facts, there's usually like one empathic person in that family
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  who's just all day twenty four to seven processing the dysfunction of the family,
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  and they're probably doing it without resources. They don't even know that they are
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  an EmPATH, and so they're overwhelmed, they're depressed, they're totally anxious,
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  and they are ultimately regarded in the family as a kind of a black sheep
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  or somebody who just doesn't fit in with the rest because they're busy over there
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  processing all of your weird fucking energy in this family. And so I was
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  wondering, in the context of the Plaths, whether you think we have like
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  a little mpath there that's processing the energy. I mean, by definition,
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  it probably would be Mariah, because she has been kind of the black sheep,
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  and she's regarded as over dramatic for having feelings, and well, she
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  is dramatic in some instances, in some scenarios, yes, but I do
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  think some of her emotions are warranted, and she just doesn't really know how
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  to communicate them properly or express them in a healthy way, so she just
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  blows up or says stupid shit and acts like a dummy. But we've also
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  talked about Ethan being a shadow impass where he feels everything but doesn't know how
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  to even process that at all, so it's just bottled up inside him and
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  he just works on cars all day, right, So that's kind of my
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  thing. Maybe it's between Ethan and Olivia maybe Mariah. And that's interesting too
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  when you think about Mariah because her biggest instinct growing up was to get the
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  fuck out of here, right, Like, I don't want to have to
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  sit with all of this energy and all of our problems and all of our
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  patterns in this family. I just want to leave and move in with my
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  grandma and my grandpa. Yeah. I just want to be a rebel,
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  forgiven rebel, and I want to be in my own loft with my dog.
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  What was his name, Jack's where's your dog something? I don't know.
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  Where is the dog? She says he's in training, But he's in
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  training for months. Some people do that. I know people in the way
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  for months. I feel like she rehomed the dog. That's mean. Well,
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  I mean yeah, that's sad. Okay, back to the show.
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  The next scene, we are in Jacksonville, Florida, reminding me of Limp
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  Biscuit. I'm a rednick fuck from Jacksonville. Yeses, And we have Mariah
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  with her ballroom dancing. She's in a bright yellow dress and I cannot stand
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  the color of her hair. Doesn't she see that it washes out her complexion.
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  I mean it's like this ashy white, bright, silvery color. And
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  then she's got that dark, dark lipstick. They were showing some pictures from
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  the past in this episode when she's with her brothers and she's got like natural
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  hair or darker blonde hair, and she's stunning beautiful. I know, I
• 19:37
  really do not like the color of her hair. I didn't like that dress
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  that she was in, ey neither. What is that? I mean ballroom
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  dancing, you have skimpy, flashy, sparkly dresses. But it was but
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  she's having fun. She's a fash niece though, and her whole family showed
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  up for her, which I thought was awesome. Of yes, of course,
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  sans Micah and Ethan. But you've got Kim there. It's so pretty
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  and sexy on he she's got a newly live somebody's etting the back, so
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  she's happy in her mini skirt. You've got Barry who actually looks a little
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  studley. He does with his shirt that's fitting just so around all his checks,
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  his gossips and stuff, showing off to Cam being like, this is
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  what you missing, baby, That's right? With his like chain that he's
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  what do those kids call it, the drip the riz. He's got some
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  ricks sitting there stewing because he can't stand his stank ass hoe ass wife who's
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  sitting right next to him. And then we've got Isaac, and then we've
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  got the girls. And Mariah is so happy, and she does make a
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  point to say, like, I'm really grateful that my parents haven't dragged all
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  of the kids into their personal nonsense, not yet, and that it's coming.
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  Yeah, and that they have the ability to kind of just be in
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  the same room and support their kids. That's awesome. Yeah, it's really
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  great. I was looking at this, I'm like, well, this seems
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  sweet on the outside, right, I feel like there's go and to have
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  the bitterness is going to seep through Barry and Kim, whether they like it
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  or not, and it all start affecting their kids. Because I feel like
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  that happens in almost every divorce scenario between parents with kids. I feel like
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  the parents always try at the beginning to kill parent and to be healthy,
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  roban to be They don't always try from me, but yeah, well your
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  ex husband did not want to do shit. He didn't even be around you.
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  Noing that even resembled me, which my daughter, your wife totally resembles
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  me. Yes, So he had a hard time being around her. He
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  literally like fell off the face of the earth. He did. It was
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  wild, Like my whole family, like my brother who really liked him,
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  yeah, and felt pretty close to him, like all of a sudden,
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  never heard from him again, and he's like, I can't believe he's just
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  gone. So I just say all of that to say that not every parent
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  is willing to co parent. No. I mean my parents tried for like
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  the first year or something to be really good and to spend time with us
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  kids, and then it just totally changed because bitterness comes up and then you
• 22:07
  do something to piss off the other spouse and everything, and then it trickles
• 22:11
  down to the kids and it's just like always going to be a mess.
• 22:12
  So I'm waiting when we see that preview with kim Il pissed me off so
• 22:18
  bad, we are going to get her. Why have some things to say
• 22:21
  when I played Devil's Advocate, They're just why does the devil need to know?
• 22:25
  I know, I get you to pop up. We have a couple
• 22:27
  of interesting statements Barry says that he is happy that he's able to kind of
• 22:33
  put aside his issues so that he can be there with Kim and his kids
• 22:37
  for Mariah, But at the same time, he certainly doesn't condone what she's
• 22:44
  doing, and in specific, he doesn't condone that she's dating Ken Palmer again
• 22:48
  while they are still married. And then I think the producers ask him,
• 22:52
  like what does he think about that? And he's like, well, that's
• 22:56
  her personal personal life and I'm not a part of that. So next question,
• 22:59
  I'm like, Oh, I wish he would spill the tea. But
• 23:02
  he's being mature right now and trying not to talk shit about her because that's
• 23:07
  still the mother of his children and he knows that this is national TV mm
• 23:10
  hmm, and he doesn't want to say anything damaging, but you know,
• 23:14
  he wants to. Yeah, I think he's really angry, and I'm wondering
• 23:17
  what the end result of this anger is, Like does he become a serial
• 23:19
  killer, does he become a peeping tom? Is he going to counseling or
• 23:22
  is he just going to like Christian counseling or just working out open the Bible
• 23:26
  bingo and see if there's a scripture that can help you to appeal from your
• 23:30
  wife of twenty five years leaving you to fuck another man, right, Like,
• 23:33
  is he getting any analysis in therapeutics or is he just sitting there stewing
• 23:37
  as he's working out building his testosterone getting angrier and angrier. I'm worried about
• 23:42
  it a little bit. No, it's a little concerning, but he's keeping
• 23:45
  it together. And then you have Kim. All she can talk about all
• 23:48
  season long is I'm dating somebody. Do you know that they've been dating somebody?
• 23:55
  Did you hear from your scisters? You've already heard of, haven't you
• 23:56
  that I'm dating somebody? And it's not too soon? And I don't think
• 24:00
  I think it's fine, which is what she kind of says in this section.
• 24:03
  She's like, Yeah, well, we've been separated for one year and
• 24:07
  it's never too early to be happy behind me and I'm happy I'm dating,
• 24:11
  and I'm just like, I know he's upset about it, but he can
• 24:15
  eat me, eat this box, eat the bos. I don't care.
• 24:18
  I'm gonna do what I want to do. And even Ethan and Micah say
• 24:21
  she's gonna do what she wants to do. Yep, Because even though all
• 24:26
  of the kids, it seems like, disagree with her decision to date another
• 24:30
  man, She's still doing it. She don't give no fucks at all about
• 24:33
  what any of the other kids say. And Lydia in this scene is like,
• 24:36
  I don't condone it at all because my mother taught me different. But
• 24:41
  I love her and I'm being a good Christian girl, and I will still
• 24:44
  be around my mom. I'm gonna disagree even though I don't support her choices.
• 24:48
  She's a ticking time. She is well, I well, I'm like
• 24:53
  again. Lydia has two roads before her. She has the continuation of her
• 24:57
  Christian journey Jesus is lo. She finds herself a Christian boy, she gets
• 25:02
  married like Hozanna did, They have a bunch of babies, and she tours
• 25:04
  the world or the nation or Georgia singing in churches. Or she becomes a
• 25:11
  straight up promiscuous girl. Yeah, who is out here living her life,
• 25:17
  having worldly experiences, secular experiences, and who chucks her face entirely because she
• 25:22
  saw her mother do it first. Oh God, I'm worried about that.
• 25:26
  If she marries a Christian guy, though, that's another path that she can
• 25:29
  go down where she could end up like her mom in right twenty years and
• 25:33
  eating a lot of sugar. Yeah, leaving her husband's drinking the booze in
• 25:37
  the barn. Yikes. This particular segment ends with a picture for Mariah.
• 25:42
  Yeah, so Mariah wants a picture after she dances with her whole family,
• 25:47
  and you hear the photographers say to Mariah, get in the center of the
• 25:52
  photo, and then you see Kim angle her body to the center of the
• 25:56
  photo, and ultimately the photo that we see is Kim smack dab in the
• 26:00
  center of the photo with the Mariah shit due to the side. I'm like,
• 26:06
  absolute narc stuff my text. I'm like, come on, lady,
• 26:08
  I know this isn't about you. This is about Mariah. It's not about
• 26:12
  your mini skirt, honey. And she looks so hot. She's like,
• 26:17
  I'm living vicariously through Mariah right now. It's so great because she's a ballet
• 26:21
  dancer. Remember do you know that Mariah's my daughter? I mean, you
• 26:23
  probably thought she was my sister. But we're both in this picture and I'm
• 26:27
  in the center. Yi big yikes. After this, we get back into
• 26:33
  that U haul truck with Micah and Ethan, and Micah asks whether Ethan has
• 26:41
  told Olivia that they're coming in and what's going to happen, and he says
• 26:45
  no. He equivocates again on the couch. Ethan says that he doesn't know
• 26:49
  how to tell Micah that Olivia doesn't want him there. He then asks Micah
• 26:53
  if he told him already. This was so weird to me, He asks
• 26:56
  Micah, did I tell you yet that Olivia isn't thrilled you're coming? I
• 27:02
  mean you're in Minnesota by this time, we're seeing snow on the ground.
• 27:06
  Yeah, it's been I don't know two three days that you've been traveling with
• 27:07
  your brother, and so right before you get to the apartment complex, you're
• 27:11
  like, oh, by the way, did I tell you that Olivia doesn't
• 27:14
  want to see you and you're not allowed in my house at all? No?
• 27:18
  Did I forget though, I have missed that, Ethan. You're so
• 27:22
  freaking stupid dude, Like he literally waited to the last minute to do that
• 27:26
  because he was so nervous and didn't want to have to deal with this at
• 27:30
  all. He would rather not deal with any human emotion from anybody ever in
• 27:34
  his life, because it just makes him uncomfortable. Yeah, and Mike has
• 27:40
  just like taken aback. He's like, uh, no, you didn't tell
• 27:42
  me that. And I wish I might not have come with you if I
• 27:47
  knew that your wife at the end of this trip he had a real big
• 27:49
  problem with me. It might not have been the time for me to travel
• 27:52
  here, right, Sure, But he doesn't say that. He's just like
• 27:55
  no. But then he's like, yeah, but it's cool. I don't
• 27:56
  need to see her. Actually I don't care. And he's like, but
• 28:00
  will it make it harder for you, Ethan if I'm here? That was
• 28:03
  big. There's a couple of times he asked. He checked in with Ethan
• 28:06
  and he's like, is my inability to go and see your wife in a
• 28:08
  one on one because I hate her guts going to cause problems in your marriage?
• 28:12
  Because I don't want that. I want to preserve whatever it is that
• 28:15
  I can preserve so that we can have a relationship. Yes, And this
• 28:19
  is why we don't like Olivia and why she's toxic af because if Micah is
• 28:25
  picking up on the fact that his dislike of her or her issues with Micah
• 28:30
  and Mariah is going to affect Ethan and hers relationship that's toxic and for her
• 28:36
  to like always dictate whether Ethan can actually have a relationship with his family or
• 28:41
  not his toxic as fuck. And Olivia says, we'll get to it.
• 28:45
  Okay, we'll get to it. I sure don't forget to get to it.
• 28:48
  I won't. I won't. Okay, we'll get to it. Micah
• 28:52
  tells Ethan that he respects Olivia as his wife, but he just has a
• 28:56
  fundamental issue with her trashing the and it's something that's bothering him and it's going
• 29:03
  to continue to bother him. But again, he wants to preserve the relationship
• 29:07
  with Ethan, And this is where we have Ethan saying that before he left
• 29:11
  on the road trip, he actually told Olivia that he's done a lot to
• 29:17
  support her, to the detriment and to the neglect of his family, like
• 29:21
  I have gone above and beyond to take care of you, make you feel
• 29:25
  heard, make you feel safe, make you feel protected, to the detriment
• 29:30
  of like my little siblings, the family that I love, the people that
• 29:33
  I grew up with and want to be around. Ye. So before this
• 29:37
  trip, they're already having Olivia and Ethan some in depth conversations about how he
• 29:42
  ain't happy with the way she's conducting herself. And I assume she's not happy
• 29:47
  with the way he's conducting himself. Of course not, but she's never happy
• 29:51
  with anything Ethan does because anything he does is wrong and bad for her.
• 29:55
  And they're marriage, right, But I thought that was huge. Yes,
• 29:59
  he came to that realism, and this is probably why he they end up
• 30:03
  breaking up because he's realizing, Wow, like, my relationships with my family
• 30:07
  have suffered because I've been just accommodating you. And Yoho asked this whole entire
• 30:12
  time, which is it's never enough, like enough, There's not enough that
• 30:15
  I can do to make you feel okay with me having a family. I
• 30:19
  can't change that, and I want to have a family. And she even
• 30:22
  says in this episode like, look, Ethan is entitled to be around the
• 30:26
  kind of people that he wants to be around and to love his family,
• 30:29
  but if it hurts me, you know, like, but when it hurts
• 30:33
  me, I expect him to be there for me, essentially, And this
• 30:34
  is what I was gonna say earlier. This like her saying that is such
• 30:38
  bullshit because by your actions of this whole entire fucking show, and probably before
• 30:44
  this, before we even got on TLC. You've been fucking with his relationships
• 30:48
  with the family. So don't sit there and say you don't care about his
• 30:52
  relation hit whoever he has relationships with, You care very much. You care,
• 30:56
  very very much. And you have a problem. You had a problem
• 30:57
  with him going to Kroo itself and seeing Micah. You didn't want him to
• 31:03
  see Mica and hang out with somebody who's disrespecting your marriage and talking about your
• 31:07
  marriage. And I dare say she probably made it really hard for him to
• 31:11
  go on this trip to Caro, made him feel really bad for leaving her
• 31:14
  there, even though she had just been on a trip to Saint Lucia.
• 31:17
  Yeah, and it has not been established whetherr that was for work or for
• 31:19
  pleasure. And if she was there for pleasure, who was she there with
• 31:22
  girls? Exactly? That's what I want to know. This is when Micah
• 31:26
  gets a call and it is Mariah. She is calling because she knows that
• 31:32
  Micah and Ethan are traveling on the road together and it feels like she wants
• 31:36
  to take this time to address the elephant in the room. Seems a little
• 31:41
  weird and talk about the problems. So what did you think about the conversation
• 31:45
  that Mariah ends up having with Ethan. This whole conversation was frustrating for me
• 31:51
  as a sibling and as an older sibling, because Mariah is like trying to
• 31:56
  talk to Ethan, but she's also interrupting him. She's letting him off,
• 32:00
  She's getting kind of reactive and not necessarily saying sorry. She's saying sorry,
• 32:06
  but then trying to justify her actions. She'll acknowledge that she was over dramatic
• 32:09
  about the whole music thing and that she apologizes for that, but then still
• 32:15
  comes at Ethan. Ethan is so inept and so doesn't want to deal with
• 32:22
  her emotions at all. When she starts crying, he gets pissed off and
• 32:27
  doesn't want to deal with that at all. And I think that's a huge
• 32:29
  problem. Like Ethan, you have to be able to deal with people's emotions,
• 32:32
  Like, whether you like it or not, people are emotional and you're
• 32:36
  gonna have to be able to grow the fuck up and deal with that and
• 32:38
  be in tune with your own emotions. But he's so disconnected from how he
• 32:43
  actually feels that he cannot relate to other people's emotions and Micah brings us up.
• 32:50
  He's like, this is frustrating to hear their conversation between the two of
• 32:53
  them, because Ethan is so emotionless and Mariah is the complete, utter opposite,
• 33:00
  and Ethan doesn't necessarily understand emotions at all, so it's super frustrating.
• 33:06
  Yeah, And I was wondering whether Ethan is so turned off by emotionality because
• 33:13
  Olivia has just been dumping emotions on him for eight years straight during their entire
• 33:17
  relationship, and he's so burnt out by it, or whether it just triggers
• 33:23
  in him his inability to connect emotionally and so he just shuts down. I
• 33:28
  don't really know. I think maybe it's the blending of the two. I
• 33:30
  agree. I could see though Ethan getting upset here. I could see him
• 33:34
  kind of sinking back into that fucking toxic, masculine kind of leg will but
• 33:37
  let me finish, let me finish. Yeah, And I just felt like
• 33:42
  he wasn't soft with his sister. He wasn't ready to be soft with his
• 33:46
  sister. And I actually appreciated that. Mariah was like, yeah, I'm
• 33:50
  not apologizing for something I'm not sorry for. She is not sorry for how
• 33:53
  she feels about Olivia. She is not sorry for I think how she has
• 33:58
  treated Olivia. She's sorry about the accusing her of stealing thing because of the
• 34:04
  way it impacts Ethan. Right, I don't think she gives a shit about
• 34:07
  Olivia, so I think she's trying. But at the same time, Ethan
• 34:10
  has really good points, like you were spending the entire summer giving me shit.
• 34:15
  You make the social media post, you don't pay your bills, you
• 34:19
  move out in the middle of the night, you block me right right,
• 34:22
  and you're not taking any responsibility, Like when I'm trying to sit down and
• 34:25
  have a conversation with you so we can fix it, you're just running away,
• 34:30
  right, And I'm like, Ethan, you're kind of talking to yourself.
• 34:34
  Isn't that what you do? Yep? In conflicts, though, yeah,
• 34:36
  it bugs you because you do it too exactly, And that's why it
• 34:39
  was so frustrating, because it's like she's literally doing the same things that you
• 34:43
  do, just opposite. And also I didn't like how he kept calling her
• 34:47
  over dramatic, like just for the way that she reacts and for her saying
• 34:52
  that he was yelling at her and being upset with her. I don't know
• 34:55
  if I believe him when he says, oh, I think that was just
• 34:59
  her being we're dramatic and dishonest. Yes, so he's implying she's lying about
• 35:02
  that. Yeah, I'm like, I think you are an emotional cripple and
• 35:06
  you don't understand how you come off to other people because of that, right,
• 35:08
  And you are not compassionate to other people's emotions because of you, And
• 35:15
  you cannot deal with emotion. Right. You just don't have the tools to
• 35:17
  communicate, and it's incumbent upon you to get those tools. You can learn
• 35:22
  to communicate with the people that are important to you. But at the same
• 35:24
  time, Mariah, you did a lot of shitty things, right, And
• 35:28
  then when he was trying to deal with it with you, instead of just
• 35:30
  saying, please stop yelling at me, we are having an adult conversation.
• 35:34
  I am not fifteen year old Mariah anymore. You cannot push me around.
• 35:36
  I want to work through this with you, but stop yelling. Instead of
• 35:38
  doing that, you avoid, you block, You talk shit to everybody else
• 35:44
  about Ethan, but you don't talk to him, which is what Mica says,
• 35:46
  that's what we do in this family. When we have a problem,
• 35:50
  we talk to everybody else, but we don't talk to one another. At
• 35:53
  the end of this conversation, Mariah says, well, well, because Ethan
• 35:58
  says, I don't really know what good this conversation, like we really didn't
• 36:00
  get anywhere. And Mariah says, well, I just want you to know
• 36:04
  that I love you, yeah, and I want you to remember that,
• 36:07
  like, no matter what happens, how long it takes for us to get
• 36:10
  back on the same page, I love you yeah. And he doesn't say
• 36:15
  it back. No, He's like, okay, good talking and leaves the
• 36:17
  car and gets out of the truck and gets and he's pissed off. And
• 36:22
  Mike is like he's out of the truck and he's very very pissed. That
• 36:25
  was really lame, immature, Grow the fuck up, Ethan. I know,
• 36:29
  I'm like, get some fucking therapy. And I do think part of
• 36:32
  this is because he just deals like this with Olivia's stuff, like with her
• 36:37
  emotions. He just is not capable of handling it because of Olivia. Partly
• 36:42
  because of Olivia. But they also brought up the credit card right right,
• 36:45
  So Mariah talks about how that was all a lie that Olivia said, and
• 36:50
  Ethan stands up and he's like, no, there's not gonna lie. Actually,
• 36:53
  go ask Olivia how mom reacted to when I when she told her to
• 36:58
  stop using my fucking credit card, Like she can't do that, that's not
• 37:00
  okay. And then Mariah just kind of shoves it off and is like,
• 37:04
  well, we're just a family, a family. No, you can't say
• 37:08
  that this is a lie, and then put out a social media post calling
• 37:14
  my wife a liar. And then when I tell you that objectively it's not
• 37:16
  a lie. It's exactly what happened, right, you can't then just default
• 37:21
  too well, But I mean, I don't know the way it happened.
• 37:22
  It was just fucked up and little and gloss over it. That's not how
• 37:25
  that works. I just wish somebody in the family would say, okay,
• 37:30
  even though it wasn't a lie, why did Olivia take it upon herself to
• 37:35
  say this on national TV preach without any of our consent? And she did
• 37:39
  it purely for the shock factor and to make everybody look to be punitive.
• 37:44
  Yes to drag Kim. I wish they would fucking say that and call that
• 37:47
  out, because that's the real issue. Here is the issue of Olivia stirring
• 37:52
  the fucking pot and making this family look way worse than what they really are.
• 37:57
  Like, I know Kim is terrible, okay, like, and Kim's
• 38:00
  done some shitty things. Yes, she's a nark for sure, but Olivia
• 38:02
  doesn't need to take it upon herself to shed the light on that. We
• 38:06
  can see that for ourselves, and she doesn't need to be stirring drama on
• 38:09
  the show and causing a rift in the family, right And you have to
• 38:13
  remember she did this after an entire season of shitty behavior, shitty behavior in
• 38:19
  Jamaica with Micah and Mariah, shitty behavior at Joshua's gravesite, and then shitty
• 38:24
  behavior at the reunion at the River exactly at the end of the season.
• 38:29
  Like she was totally out of pocket, out of line. Yeah, and
• 38:31
  then she makes this wild claim about Kim. Maybe it's true, maybe it's
• 38:35
  not. Kim has never defended herself, so we kind of have to believe
• 38:37
  what Olivia and Ethan are saying. But nonetheless, you did it publicly after
• 38:43
  you guys had made amends, exactly after you guys agreed to put it behind
• 38:46
  you. Ethan even talks in this episode about how he just wants to get
• 38:51
  his whole fucking crazy family to sit down at a table. Everybody air your
• 38:57
  grievances, tell the next person what is that you heard about or upset about,
• 39:01
  Then deal with it and let it go forever, not to be brought
• 39:06
  up at another time, dragged out in order to punish somebody else, and
• 39:09
  let's just move on with our lives. And see, that's precisely I think
• 39:14
  what Olivia did because Barry, Kim, Ethan and Olivia had a conversation after
• 39:20
  the credit card thing and they put it behind them, but she drug it
• 39:22
  back into the light and then she put it on the national stage and yeah,
• 39:29
  Kim and her family are pissed about it. You didn't need to do
• 39:30
  that. Kim was doing a great job showing us who she is without you
• 39:35
  piping in there, Olivia, right, And I understand Olivia that you have
• 39:37
  bitterness towards the family, but it's not appropriate to cause drama on national TV
• 39:44
  and then play the victim about it and be like, I don't know why
• 39:46
  nobody wants to have a relationship with me. I didn't do anything wrong.
• 39:51
  Mm hmm, okay, Robin Brown, I know exactly so many parallels.
• 39:54
  Yes, So Micah and Ethan get back on the road, and this is
• 40:00
  when Micah receives the text from Olivia. And Olivia, who again knows Mike's
• 40:06
  coming into town. She has told Ethan she doesn't want him to come over
• 40:09
  to the apartment. Olivia is sending a text to Micah asking if he wants
• 40:15
  to meet with her somewhere, just Micah and Olivia so they can kind of
• 40:19
  just talk hash out their issues. And I'm sure in her mind she's thinking,
• 40:22
  and then you can come back to the apartment. We'll be cool,
• 40:25
  we can move on from there. So Micah tells Ethan, Hey, I
• 40:30
  got this text from your wiggity whack wife who just wants to stay forever in
• 40:35
  all the drama, my guy, and so what do you want me to
• 40:37
  do? And Ethan's just like, I don't know, whatever you think is
• 40:40
  appropriate, and Mike's like, cool, I'm gonna tell her I don't want
• 40:44
  to hang out with her one on one at all. I just want to
• 40:46
  keep things light and happy. I don't want to hashit out. I don't
• 40:49
  want to clear the air because I don't want to have a relationship with her.
• 40:52
  Is that cool? And Ethan's like, yeah, sure what EV's even
• 40:55
  though he's like panicking and he's panicking and on the couch, He's like,
• 40:59
  it would be really awesome if Micah could actually meet up with her and maybe
• 41:02
  they could talk it out. But at the same time, I do not
• 41:05
  blame him, yep for not wanting to be in the horseshit. Dento's down
• 41:09
  in horseshit all the fucking time. It's over it, and I get it.
• 41:13
  Yeah, but I think he really wants Micah to make the effort because
• 41:16
  I think it would go a long way with Olivia, would it. I
• 41:20
  think it would go a long way with Olivia. And I think that actually
• 41:22
  would have good ramifications on Ethan's marriage because I think Olivia is always up his
• 41:28
  motherfucking ass. I don't know. But then there's the conflict with Mariah,
• 41:31
  and Mariah won't reconcile with Olivia, so there's always gonna be something that's gonna
• 41:36
  piss Olivia off. Like it's never gonna be good. The Plaths are never
• 41:39
  gonna give her what she needs. No, they are not. They did
• 41:44
  not want to. They're over Olivia. And so she gets this text and
• 41:46
  here again we have the infliction of the narcissistic injury. She has been rejected,
• 41:52
  access denied. You cannot come into my sphere of influence. You cannot
• 41:58
  affect my good vibes with your bad vibes. Fib check, fib jack.
• 42:02
  I want to keep my good vibes, Olivia. So no, Like,
• 42:05
  why don't you come over to Pops when we drop off the cars, Why
• 42:07
  don't you come over to the bar. I'd love to see. That's super
• 42:09
  cool. I just want to make it, make sure it's light and it's
• 42:12
  good. That is what I want. And I love a king who asserts
• 42:15
  a boundary. I love it so much and super cool about it. He's
• 42:19
  like, yeah, I would rather do X, Y and Z, but
• 42:21
  you're totally invited come on over. Yeah, why not boundary yep. And
• 42:25
  she feels it. Oh, and she's pissed about it. Yeah, she
• 42:28
  is so mad. I can't be fake. I can't act happy. There's
• 42:31
  shit that I got to talk about. Oh God, there's always shit that
• 42:36
  you have to talk about. So Olivia's very upset. And in the last
• 42:39
  segment of this episode, we have Olivia calling her sister Lydia Grace, who's
• 42:45
  the only person left who's willing to talk to Olivia and put up with her
• 42:50
  bullshit, And she tells Lydia Grace that Micah has refused her offer to meet
• 42:57
  in person, and just like you said, Olivia's like, I'm just not
• 43:00
  a fake person. I'm not just gonna go out drinking at some kind of
• 43:05
  bar with somebody who talks shit about me for an entire year. And I'm
• 43:08
  like, what are you talking about? What are you talking about? She
• 43:09
  said that a few times they have been talking shit about me. They she
• 43:13
  didn't say that exactly. They've been talking about me and really crap eats me
• 43:16
  for a full year. And we're not supposed to talk What are you fucking
• 43:21
  talking about? Before I see you? We're just supposed to pretend none of
• 43:23
  this is happening this entire season. You're talking about that, that's all you
• 43:27
  do. In fact, every time Barry doesn't do it and he has an
• 43:30
  opportunity to talk about you, he's actually really gracious. Micah is super chilling
• 43:34
  cool. He's just saying, hey, I don't like what she did,
• 43:37
  but you know, I'm okay to sit down with her. Even Mariah doesn't
• 43:39
  really trash her it is Olivia, yep, constantly trashing the fam exactly.
• 43:45
  Hi, I'm the problem. It's me, my god, for real.
• 43:49
  So she said a couple of interesting things here. She said that while Micah
• 43:57
  and her were texting and he was turning her down for her offer, that
• 44:00
  Ethan was there at the same time. He's driving with Micah, so he
• 44:05
  knows how this is going to affect Olivia when she is rejected. He knows
• 44:09
  she's a n arc he knows she's going to be upset. And yet no
• 44:13
  call, no text, no commiseration, no compassion from Ethan, which says
• 44:19
  a lot to her, and I thought, fair enough, Oh yeually for
• 44:22
  sure. I mean, Ethan really doesn't want to put any more effort into
• 44:29
  this relationship. I feel like he may have maybe sent her a text a
• 44:32
  couple of years ago, maybe if this scenario happened back then, But I
• 44:36
  feel like now he's just really over it and he just doesn't want to have
• 44:39
  to accommodate for her and hear her nagging mouth, honestly, and I don't
• 44:45
  blame him, I really don't know. Lydia Grace asks Olivia if Olivia's standing
• 44:50
  her ground with regard to Micah coming over to the apartment will affect her relationship
• 44:54
  with Ethan, and Lydia ultimately says yes, Olivia says sorry, says yes,
• 45:00
  and then Olivia tells us that before Ethan left for the trip to kro
• 45:06
  he told her that if he would have known that being with her would have
• 45:10
  caused all this drama and chaos in his family, he would not have done
• 45:15
  it. He would not have seen her. Do you would believe that he
• 45:19
  actually said that. I do believe. Oh, I do. I believe.
• 45:21
  I believe it. I think so too. I believe it. I
• 45:22
  mean it's true though, like everything fell apart when you came into the family.
• 45:29
  I'm sorry. I know you may have tried to come in with okay
• 45:32
  intentions, like try to set boundaries. I don't know. I guess I
• 45:37
  can't really see it. But everything fell apart when Olivia came in. Yes.
• 45:43
  Really, and Olivia, when she's sitting on the bed, says that
• 45:45
  him telling her that actually puts a lot of pressure on her because now she
• 45:50
  knows that this is how he feels, so she wants to make things work
• 45:52
  out, but at the same time, he's not doing what he needs to
• 45:54
  do by opening his mouth and talking to her as her husband, and I
• 45:59
  was just trying to put myself in her situation. Like if I was fighting
• 46:04
  with my husband's sibling and he knew my side of it and he knew their
• 46:08
  side of it, and he was hanging out with that sibling first fault,
• 46:12
  I would probably have an issue with that. I probably feel that, but
• 46:15
  I would not stop him, not unlike Olivia. But then if my husband
• 46:19
  knew I was actually talking to his sibling and it wasn't going the way I
• 46:23
  wanted, I would be butt hurt if he didn't call in and check on
• 46:27
  me and say, hey, yeah, you know, I know you wanted
• 46:30
  to meet with Micah and he doesn't want to. I get that. That
• 46:34
  hurts. Just want you to know I love you. It's gonna be okay
• 46:36
  something like that, right. I agree, No, I feel for her
• 46:39
  in that regard. But at the same time, it's like you made your
• 46:44
  bed, girls, right, Like you have caused a lot of these issues,
• 46:47
  and you've caused Ethan to kind of resent you because you have destroyed a
• 46:52
  lot of his relationships with the family, And so I mean it's like I
• 46:58
  can't fall Ethan, but I can also fault him because he's dumb, right,
• 47:01
  and he's immature, and he needs to be single for a while before
• 47:05
  he gets into another relationship. I don't know, Beatrice. When he's on
• 47:07
  the couch and he's pontificating about his relationship and his family, he actually sounds
• 47:13
  well thought out, like he's actually considered what's happening, why it's happening,
• 47:17
  what the best thing to do is. I feel like he is probably shut
• 47:22
  down a lot when he's trying to communicate what he wants. I think Olivia
• 47:27
  weaponizes his inherent love of family and uses his love for his family and his
• 47:31
  desire to be with his family as a weapon against her. Oh you want
• 47:37
  to be with them, that means you don't love me, or you don't
• 47:40
  support me enough, or this is in a safe space. This is my
• 47:44
  home, and I get to say no to who I want to have in
• 47:46
  my home, even though all he wants to do is see his brother,
• 47:50
  hang out with his brother, and show him his apartment. Now, w
• 47:52
  we track with her being a narc for sure, And that's what narcs do.
• 47:57
  They isolate and then they make you feel guilty for having normal human emotions.
• 48:00
  But then I'm just like, Ethan, stand up for yourself a bit
• 48:04
  then with your relationship with her, or like just be honest. Like he
• 48:07
  just can't. He can't be the Ethan on the couch that he is with
• 48:12
  Olivia. You know what I'm saying, Like he can't yes, put two
• 48:15
  and two, So it's really annoying. I think when he tries to do
• 48:19
  that, I bet she's pretty reactive because he seems really reticent to open up
• 48:22
  and say how he feels. But when he does, when he's alone on
• 48:25
  a couch with just a producer, he has the ability to explain and articulate
• 48:29
  himself. Right, He's probably just been batted away so many times. We
• 48:32
  also hear Olivia say that anytime Ethan does go and spend time with his family,
• 48:38
  he hunkers down with him and there's all these secrets and this dishonesty and
• 48:44
  there's no compassion. And she's like, if my family were to do that
• 48:50
  to Ethan, Like, if my family treated Ethan the way Ethan's family treated
• 48:53
  me, I would go above and beyond to make sure I protected him.
• 48:58
  And you know what, I don't believe. I don't believe it. I
• 49:00
  don't believe it, and I feel by the way Ethan has gone above and
• 49:04
  beyond. Yes, he took you to Europe, girl, he moved away
• 49:07
  to Minnesota. He's gone and lived in a new place every single year he
• 49:10
  has ridden for you. He almost got in a fight with his dad,
• 49:15
  right, this has altercation with you, so like, I mean, he
• 49:17
  has been trying his hardest. It's just never ever enough. And I don't
• 49:22
  think you would defend him against your family because if he had problems with Lydia
• 49:27
  Grays, you'd be like, well, that's my sister, right, So
• 49:30
  it's double standards. Yes, she's only double standards. Unfortunately. Uh.
• 49:35
  The episode ends with Lydia asking well, what happens if Micah comes over to
• 49:39
  the apartment anyway? And she's like, you know what, him saying no
• 49:45
  to meeting me one on one that's one thing. You know, wanting to
• 49:49
  hang out and keep it light, that's one thing. But if you're going
• 49:52
  to walk up in my house after you know I don't want you to be
• 49:54
  here, all bets are off. That's fair. I mean it's also her
• 49:58
  house, that's fine. So does this feel like that's exactly what they're setting
• 50:04
  them up to do? Well, Ethan in the U haul was like,
• 50:07
  well, I kind of feel like I should just drop by with Micah,
• 50:09
  but I know that that's gonna piss Olivia off because it's her space and she
• 50:13
  set that boundary and I'm like, ooh, you're testing the water. So
• 50:16
  if Micah does come into the apartment with Ethan, do you think that Olivia
• 50:22
  has the bollies to actually say something? I don't think so. I actually
• 50:27
  really don't think. I think she'll be passive aggressive, She'll be distant,
• 50:30
  but I don't think she's gonna actually say what she wants to say. She's
• 50:32
  all talk. Yeah, I don't think so either, And so that is
• 50:36
  how the episode ends. We have the preview, of course, for next
• 50:38
  week, wherein we see our girl Cam complaining that Barry is getting all the
• 50:45
  praise because he's stepping up a little bit, but here she is, having
• 50:50
  done all the work for twenty five years and she gets no recognition. Bitch.
• 50:54
  This pissed me off so much? Why so much? We are out
• 50:59
  here and around after your divorce with no regards, no divorce, married,
• 51:04
  no divorce, actually your separation, and you want recognition for what for educating
• 51:10
  them poorly? When they were homeschooled for eating all the sugar and depriving them
• 51:16
  of that. Like, what are you talking about? What she's talking about
• 51:21
  is not that she's not getting recognition. It's that Barry is God forbid.
• 51:24
  So she's jealous that the kids are gravitating to Barry, who again going to
• 51:30
  the gym, showing up, cooking for his kids, taking time out,
• 51:34
  trying to stand in the gap that was left behind when Kim left the family.
• 51:37
  And she wants to be celebrated and praised for everything she did for twenty
• 51:42
  five years, but she's not getting any of it. Barry is getting all
• 51:45
  of it. And I understand that she was no. I understand that she's
• 51:49
  bitter because Barry was an absent kind of father, Like he was working all
• 51:52
  the time, he wasn't really present for twenty five years. And she's raising
• 51:57
  a gaggle of kids by herself. She's having Lydio raise them. Well,
• 51:59
  yes, she's having the kids raise each other, and so I understand where
• 52:04
  the bitterness would come from. But like, get a fucking grip, lady.
• 52:07
  He is stepping up because that's what you're supposed to do when you separate.
• 52:10
  You're supposed to fill both shoes of the mom and the dad. Right,
• 52:14
  he's trying to be more present in his kids' lives because he knows he
• 52:16
  has to be. He's a single parrot. Now, So what you're gonna
• 52:21
  fucking fault him for that? Yes, because she's not getting the adoration or
• 52:24
  the praise. This is not That's what a narcissist would feel in that situation.
• 52:29
  She wants to get it all and none for him. That was wild,
• 52:31
  But I mean, at the same time, she kind of has a
• 52:35
  little bit of a point because no matter how much better of a job she
• 52:39
  could have done, and she could have right, she could have equipped her
• 52:42
  children to at least get a fucking ged, which she did not do.
• 52:45
  But she did homeschool those kids. Those kids have skills, talents, and
• 52:50
  abilities that most children do not have. They have good heads on their shoulders.
• 52:53
  Kim had a lot to do with that. It is a better pill
• 52:57
  to swallow to see all of that recognition now going to Barry, who's like
• 53:00
  showing up for like two seconds. And also I want to stand up for
• 53:05
  Barry too, Like a man having to go to work from sun up to
• 53:09
  sundown isn't an absentee father. Necessarily, he's working for his kids so those
• 53:15
  kids can have food on their table and get an education, whatever education they
• 53:19
  can cobble together for those kids, so he can buy them cattle so that
• 53:22
  they can teach them these life skills. Barry facilitated that by the work that
• 53:24
  he did, which is just as valuable. Just because he wasn't there in
• 53:28
  terms of FaceTime doesn't mean his contribution was less than hers. Agreed, Yes,
• 53:32
  okay, we are on the same page with that. We also see
• 53:36
  Isaac and Barry arrive in la and Barry has like some fancy shoes, He's
• 53:40
  got the drip and the rizz, so cute. We see that Ethan is
• 53:46
  telling Olivia that she has completely changed since they've been married, and he's frustrated,
• 53:52
  and Olivia, in a moment of what looks like vulnerability, says that
• 53:58
  she was young when they got married, and she didn't know who she was,
• 54:01
  and so of course a lot has changed. And this is when Ethan
• 54:04
  asks if there's any world in which they can make this work. And we
• 54:08
  look at Olivia, she's got tears in her eyes. And if you look
• 54:12
  at Ethan as we're like kingd Olivia. You can see him shaking his head.
• 54:15
  No, I believe it, because he can't relate to her anymore.
• 54:19
  She's changed so drastically that they can't even mesh well together. It's like the
• 54:24
  whole opposite attract thing doesn't right now, doesn't have this anymore. And my
• 54:29
  feeling is they're not banging, because if she was banging him, it would
• 54:32
  cover a multitude of sins. There's a lot of things he wouldn't be paying
• 54:37
  attention to if he was getting that cookie on the rag. But I think
• 54:42
  they're probably not fugging. And so everything is breaking down and everything is bad
• 54:46
  and they're gonna break up. It's kind of interesting to see, Yeah,
• 54:51
  it is. It's so dry, it's so quick, like it's happening very
• 54:54
  quickly, kind of like the way Kim left Barry. That's the way Ethan
• 54:58
  and Olivia are exploding their marriage as well. The parallels are so fascinating.
• 55:02
  Yes, good episode, you were right. I told you. Yeah,
• 55:06
  lots and lots of layers in this one. All right, let's take a
• 55:08
  little bit of a break. We have to pay these bills, keep these
• 55:12
  lights on the honey, we will be back on the other side. To
• 55:15
  have a rousing conversation about ninety day fiance and all those fools. Yes,
• 55:21
  so stay tuned, we'll be right back. We are back to talk ninety
• 55:28
  day fiance. I am excited to get into this one. There were so
• 55:31
  many interesting things that happen. Yes, but before we do, I understand
• 55:36
  that somebody called our speak by baby. They did. They were anonymous,
• 55:39
  so we don't know who you are. Anonymous raccoon, Yes, secret raccoon
• 55:44
  it anyways, we'll play its real short and sweet. Who is my thoughts?
• 55:51
  Who talks about family? Shun taal? Please, I've been searching.
• 55:54
  I can't find it. That sounds like my kind of person? Who her?
• 56:00
  That is? Is my kind of raccoon? Yes, thank you.
• 56:02
  My thoughts is a sweet little potato on YouTube. It's m y spacehots.
• 56:09
  Is it a space between the mine and the thought? Yes, okay,
• 56:13
  my thoughts. What we'll do? I will include a link in the comment
• 56:19
  section of this YouTube. Yeah, so then you can go and check her
• 56:22
  out. But she's so funny, awesome. She's just a cute little potato
• 56:27
  in the bottom of the dumpster widows. But she's a little savage. She
• 56:30
  gets to her points and I do love them, yes, so yeah,
• 56:34
  definitely check out my thoughts. She's very popular on YouTube. But we love
• 56:37
  her. We both watch her, and we just we're very entertained. Yeah,
• 56:40
  to say the least, she's great. You'll love her. Okay,
• 56:43
  let's get into this episode of ninety fiance. Yes, take it baby.
• 56:47
  Well, we start with Rob the Knob and Sophie. Yeah, it's the
• 56:52
  morning after Sophie left his ass and downgraded to a nice hotel downgraded right,
• 57:00
  studio apartment. Yeah, and he's but hurt. Of course, he feels
• 57:05
  very betrayed. He's like, I just wish we could work this out.
• 57:07
  He feels betrayed, even though he's the one who's exchanging gross videos and pictures
• 57:12
  online with Rando's. He feels betrayed. Well, he says those conversations were
• 57:15
  old though, so she's freaking out of her nothing. Fourteen weeks ago.
• 57:20
  Fourteen weeks ago? Yeah, how many How many months is that? That's
• 57:23
  like three months, right, that's three months, four months, that's not
• 57:28
  that long ago. Let me catch my husband talking to some tramp on the
• 57:34
  internet four months ago. He would be devoid of one hundred percent. And
• 57:40
  she also told you not to do it, and then you're doing it still.
• 57:45
  She told you, if you do do it, we're done. I
• 57:47
  am not coming back to you. It is Ova, So what do you
• 57:51
  expect my guy? So he's texting her, she's ghosting him. She don't
• 57:54
  want to deal with it. Yep. Meanwhile, she's in the hotel room
• 57:58
  and she's sad, and she calls up her mom, who is so based.
• 58:02
  I loved her hair, lovelus, she shot it straight, honey,
• 58:07
  yes she Sophie opens up and is like, yeah, I found him soliciting
• 58:13
  porn from some hoe online and he was sending videos back, just nasty shit.
• 58:19
  And her mom is like, what the hell? He is a jobless
• 58:22
  loser. She's like, why are you even with this? Dufe is fly
• 58:28
  back to UK right now, your richest book. I'll buyo a plane ticket
• 58:31
  first class. Baby. This is come back home. Absolutely, this is
• 58:35
  all I'm saying, Like, why are you in this weird apartment or hotel
• 58:37
  room and Englewood, California, in LA or Inglewood, California. Just go
• 58:42
  back to London, honey. Please find yourself a hotter man that's gonna treat
• 58:45
  you right, duh. But she doesn't Sophie's hesitant. She's like, well,
• 58:51
  I want to hear his side because I love it. Why you can't
• 58:53
  turn that off? The love? He's a cheater and he doesn't value you.
• 59:00
  Girls do this all the time. You gave a woman to it too,
• 59:01
  but you gave him a boundary, you were super clear about it,
• 59:04
  and he stomped all over it. And now you're like, well, but
• 59:06
  he still want to sock to him? Why? Well, she flew all
• 59:09
  this way to what is that? A song? Cost fallacy? Give him
• 59:14
  a chance? Okay, I'm sorry, but if you have enough, if
• 59:16
  you have a lot of money, it doesn't matter that you took a plane
• 59:19
  ride from London to la It does doesn't cost you that much. You can
• 59:22
  just go home. Why do you want to be with this dead beat?
• 59:24
  Broke down two dollars Drake dollars door, Drake for dogs, door Drake wanna
• 59:31
  be baby profile, dollar tree, Drake, douchebagscom bag. Yes, well,
• 59:37
  maybe the dick game's good. Maybe she's stigmatized, so maybe that's what
• 59:40
  it is. I think she's enamored with his good looks. Yea, his
• 59:45
  pretty boy good looks, his arresting eyes. But I'm like, oh,
• 59:49
  dump him. Well, last La you were saying he looks like that one
• 59:52
  guy. I mean, I can see it when I blur my eyes.
• 59:54
  Yeah, and if I'm feeling a little frisky, I'm like, Okay,
• 59:59
  but am I I'm gonna settle down with a guy who has to use an
• 1:00:01
  outhouse in the courtyard of his busted ass apartment complex. No, man,
• 1:00:07
  absolutely not. So Sophi needs to leave his ass, but she won't.
• 1:00:10
  Next episode, I'm sure they're gonna work better. Her mother better come and
• 1:00:14
  get her. Her mom wants to sew bad meat his ass, but she's
• 1:00:16
  like, I'm just gonna let you make your own decisions because you're a grown
• 1:00:20
  ass woman. You can't tell him what to do at that age. You
• 1:00:22
  just can't. No, you can't. Next, we move on to Gino
• 1:00:25
  and Jasmine. Listen, where they are getting ready to meet Gina's lovely family
• 1:00:30
  at some weird mess hall like the very essence of what people shit on about
• 1:00:37
  Americans in the form of this Italian American family, know, like the toxic
• 1:00:45
  patriotism, the judgmental bullshit, the xenophobia and racism. And listen, Jasmine's
• 1:00:53
  crazy, insane, She's insane, and she's done a lot of questionable things
• 1:00:58
  and that goes without saying, but the way that family treated her was garbage.
• 1:01:04
  It was absolutely terrible. They get there, she had to dress appropriately
• 1:01:07
  because they think she looks like a skank otherwise, and she's tooper mescuitous.
• 1:01:10
  Okay, so she wears some weird sweater dress and Michigan winter. I'm like,
• 1:01:15
  why you got your legs out of whatever? Right? They get over
• 1:01:17
  to the mess hall. Then they start playing bachi ball, and she's a
• 1:01:21
  pro, and Gino is just like hard as a rock watching her. He
• 1:01:27
  needs a pill. He's like, wow, she's a pro. He needs
• 1:01:30
  a little pill. He's got the ead that's not for anybody. He needs
• 1:01:34
  her to pee on him. That's how he gets off. Anyway, they're
• 1:01:37
  playing bochie ball and then they go down to have some dinner or something as
• 1:01:43
  a family, and this is where Gino's family immediately starts interrogating Jasmine. Yo,
• 1:01:47
  Beatrice, what did you see that chick in the background in the denim
• 1:01:52
  jacket with the Bucky beaver teeth? No? I did. It was really
• 1:01:55
  crazy to me. If you guys have seen it, Like, if you
• 1:01:58
  guys want to go back and watch it, but the entire every time they
• 1:02:00
  panned to her, it was the same stuff face. She was like,
• 1:02:05
  I'm gonna have to go back. It was crazy. I had to actually
• 1:02:07
  pause it and call my husband into the room. I'm like, do you
• 1:02:09
  see this at the end of the table stickliety become aware of your facial expressions.
• 1:02:16
  It's terrified. It's amazing. Well, maybe she does, maybe she
• 1:02:20
  thinks she looks pretty listen. I was just I thought it was very strange.
• 1:02:23
  The whole cavalcade, the pantheon of Gino's family was just overwhelming in their
• 1:02:30
  dumbness. They heard they were their unattractive dumbness judgments. Although Gino's brother made
• 1:02:37
  me laugh so fucking hard because in his talking head he immediately starts roasting Gino
• 1:02:40
  and is like, Gino's ugliest fuck. He's broke as fuck, and he's
• 1:02:45
  like, why is true? And with him? Yes? Why is anybody
• 1:02:51
  with that? Dummy? But we love Gino. He's a good guy,
• 1:02:53
  don't get us wrong, He's just not at all. I think he's terrible.
• 1:02:58
  If you're leaving a shit in your toilet and the love of your life
• 1:03:00
  is coming here to move in with you and wants to bring her children,
• 1:03:04
  and this is the first thing she sees is shit in the toilet. Then
• 1:03:07
  you're fucking shit in the toilet, you piece of shit in the toilet.
• 1:03:10
  I hate him. I know. He's absolutely and they're sitting there roasting her,
• 1:03:15
  and he's just quiet. He's like, mm hmm, yeah, let
• 1:03:19
  me see my six three husbands sit at a table with the rest of his
• 1:03:22
  family roasting mate. Dude, he'd been doing nothing. Oh my gosh,
• 1:03:25
  Well, you would never do that, and he's already proven that time and
• 1:03:29
  time again. He would never let anybody step to his honey. No,
• 1:03:31
  but if he did, oh, I would get up. I will walk
• 1:03:35
  out on that man, the entire family. You would never see me again.
• 1:03:37
  And my red lipstick and bangs. Baby, I know, and she
• 1:03:40
  knows. Family Immediate is like, how are you going to be a productive
• 1:03:44
  American? Can you define productive American? Americans? Here? That are not
• 1:03:50
  productive in the slightest many go watch my six hundred pund life. I don't
• 1:03:52
  know that we're productive Americans. I'm I have a suspicion that we're not productive
• 1:03:59
  America is like, what the fuck do you think you are talking to?
• 1:04:02
  Jasmine? Who's bilingual, actually educated in a smart lady, and she says
• 1:04:06
  this, She's like, I've had jobs, like I've been working since I
• 1:04:10
  was sixteen, right, bitch, I know how to get a job.
• 1:04:12
  Once I can get a job, I can't work on this visa Gina's brother,
• 1:04:16
  so chill the fuck out. I mean, I thought she was really
• 1:04:19
  respectful and great responses. She could have popped off, because we know Jasmine
• 1:04:25
  can pop off. She does later, but she didn't. If I was
• 1:04:28
  just thinking, if I were there in that family, and even if I
• 1:04:31
  didn't know anybody or what was going on, I would totally be there for
• 1:04:35
  her. I get like, girl, you're awesome. Like here, I'll
• 1:04:38
  play botchy ball with you, like a fuck you Joe. I would totally
• 1:04:41
  be like out there with her, like weoll as somebody who's from another country
• 1:04:45
  just sit at a table and get roasted by all these lame white people I
• 1:04:47
  know. Well, one of the family members actually does tell her that,
• 1:04:50
  she's like, if you need to talk to anybody, yeah, but then
• 1:04:54
  she criticizes herctly, like what the fuck Gino's Family's crazy, like hateful.
• 1:04:58
  Before this, I was thinking Jasmine was being dramatic at first, because I
• 1:05:01
  haven't seen the season, all of the seasons with Gino and Jasmine where she
• 1:05:05
  has talked to his family before and they were very rude to her. But
• 1:05:10
  now after this, I'm like, they suck. Yeah, they're the worst.
• 1:05:13
  Yeah, judge as fuck. And I know Jasmine's crazy, and I
• 1:05:15
  know it's weird that she's with Gino. We get it, and she probably
• 1:05:17
  is a gold digger, but like, what are you gonna do? Gino
• 1:05:21
  is a grown man, He's making these choices himself. Well, he's such
• 1:05:26
  a spineless coward. Yeah, and she's not a gold digger because he has
• 1:05:29
  no gold to dig. Well, she's got an OnlyFans and she's probably got
• 1:05:31
  other sugar down or are they to be judging anybody with their dumb patriotic shirts
• 1:05:36
  on mark fucking extra sixty pounds standard American dinner? Yikes? Oh my god.
• 1:05:44
  And then after that whole awkward meet and great at the mess hall,
• 1:05:47
  they leave and then they get in the car and Jasmine's already on one,
• 1:05:51
  Like before going to the family meet up, she was already in a bad
• 1:05:56
  mood. She didn't want to be there. She knew it was going to
• 1:05:58
  be a trash fireact. And so in the car, she's just waiting for
• 1:06:02
  something. And so I don't know if the TLC producers put a fucking lip
• 1:06:06
  gloss in that car or what. Probably, but she finds a lip gloss
• 1:06:11
  and she immediately is triggered, and she's like, are you a jitter?
• 1:06:16
  You're a fucking jitter, Gina, I'm not a chair crazy. This is
• 1:06:23
  sick, sick, my god, She's screaming, she's crying, crying,
• 1:06:29
  She's pressed up against the window. This reminded me of so many arguments I
• 1:06:33
  had in my twenties with my first husband, just flipping the fuck out for
• 1:06:38
  no reason, just making a spectacle out of myself. She's going crazy,
• 1:06:44
  absolutely insane. Do you think this was all fake? Though? Like she
• 1:06:46
  is so dramatic, her crying is ridiculous. I don't think it's fake.
• 1:06:50
  I mean, I'm pretty credulous as the person They're like, I'm just gonna
• 1:06:54
  believe you unless it's super overt that you're lying to me. I feel like
• 1:06:57
  her emotions seem legitimate. I feel like Gino is always going to fail her.
• 1:07:02
  Oh, it's just an ever failure, failure for the rest of his
• 1:07:05
  life with your dumb hat hate you, Gina. But because he's an ever
• 1:07:11
  failure, I can't imagine a woman who wears a lip gloss would be in
• 1:07:15
  his car, I know. And he's even like it was probably a coworker
• 1:07:18
  that left it there, and she's like, so you fucking your coworker in
• 1:07:21
  the car? Amazing, exactly what I'm saying. And then they pull into
• 1:07:27
  some parking lot. She stomps away in like forty below zero weather in Michigan.
• 1:07:32
  It was just this weird sweater dress on and her legs are exposed.
• 1:07:35
  I'm like, honey, you can't do that in the North. You can't.
• 1:07:39
  She drops her phone and she's like, I want go, and Gina's
• 1:07:43
  like, peace out, bitch, I'll call you an uber beck to panty.
• 1:07:45
  Yeah, he said, go home. It's perfectly fine. I can
• 1:07:47
  shit in my toilet about flush and I can't wait. Please go home,
• 1:07:51
  crazy bit amazing. Gino and Jasmine are fucking insane, dude. Let's get
• 1:07:57
  him to the last resort marriage tree. They need to be on its to
• 1:08:02
  God's years. I think she'd be a good time. Oh, I think
• 1:08:05
  she's fun. I don't hang out with Jasmine. Oh, Yeah, they
• 1:08:09
  could go to the strip club so much fun. Gino can kick rock fifty
• 1:08:15
  year old, can't get it up, don't have a job, can't fucking
• 1:08:17
  flush your shit, you piece of shit. Can't flush your shit, Mike,
• 1:08:21
  I'm crazy. I'll stop. He deserves it's the worst. I hate
• 1:08:26
  him. So that's where we end off with them. Next we get to
• 1:08:29
  Honnilly and Clayton. Clayton's going to pick up Honiy from the airport, big
• 1:08:33
  yikes, and he's getting his room together, his twelve year old bedroom together
• 1:08:39
  with those stuffed animals which are soiled, soil yellow with time and dirty come.
• 1:08:46
  He's like the fucking panta on his bed. He's like, you need
• 1:08:50
  a wash, and like, why didn't you do that before? Had?
• 1:08:54
  That's nasty, super super nasty. He's got a T shirt that he made
• 1:08:58
  for her. Oh god, that's got the pictures of them together. And
• 1:09:01
  then he's got a mug that he'll show her at the airport. Okay,
• 1:09:05
  I don't need a mug at the airport. I mean make me tea tomorrow
• 1:09:10
  morning in a mug. That's fine. I don't need a mug at the
• 1:09:13
  airport. Language She knows he's such a dweeb. But before he leaves,
• 1:09:18
  Before he leaves, he's got to give his mom a talking to and asks
• 1:09:24
  her if she knows any Spanish, and she goes, yeah, como esta,
• 1:09:27
  Yeah, I mean okay, it's the bare minimum. Yeah yeah,
• 1:09:34
  olattle white, terribly white. And then Clayton has to tell her sternly,
• 1:09:42
  don't talk to Honorly like she's an idiot. Even though she doesn't speak good
• 1:09:45
  English. She's not stupid and I can translate, so just be chill.
• 1:09:49
  And the mom's like, okay, I mean, all right, whatever.
• 1:09:53
  So he goes to the airport. Honally arrives. They hug and kiss.
• 1:09:58
  It's turbo awkward, and then he are the mug that says has a picture
• 1:10:01
  of his guinea pig and it says don't eat guinea pigs are not food.
• 1:10:08
  My husband promptly said, they eat guinea pigs America. And I'm like why,
• 1:10:13
  and he's like, I don't know. It's a food source. It's
• 1:10:15
  a delicacy apparently, okay, but it seems like this is like a bit
• 1:10:17
  between Annaly and Clayton, so I don't know. She comes down the escalator
• 1:10:24
  and I'm like, this girl's going to be a problem, you think.
• 1:10:26
  So. First of all, it's the rise of her genes. It's the
• 1:10:31
  way that she's dressed. It's the glasses on her face, it's the expression
• 1:10:35
  on her jees. She seems she's judgy. Honey, she's the one that's
• 1:10:40
  judging. She calls him little one. She calls him a little one.
• 1:10:45
  No, man, I don't care if you're five to two or you're a
• 1:10:46
  legitimate little person wants to be called little one. She's a mean person.
• 1:10:51
  She has a mean streak. Okay, fake psych, a cat coming in
• 1:10:55
  in coming download. She's a mean person and she's there to use him.
• 1:11:00
  And we see it later. He wants to have a little sexy time and
• 1:11:03
  she's just like, here's your come encrusted panda right in the middle of the
• 1:11:08
  bed. Don't touch me, don't even look at me, pretend I'm not
• 1:11:12
  here. That was amazing. Yeah, and you could see the sadness on
• 1:11:15
  his fucking face. The disappointed just wants to stick his three inch or inney
• 1:11:23
  around. That's right, But also like, don't expect sex the minute that
• 1:11:28
  they arrive in America. Absolutely not. I mean, with your mom in
• 1:11:31
  the closet behind you, and your hoarder house with all your hamsters, no
• 1:11:35
  cow, fat dogs, no table, she say, all those cages everywhere
• 1:11:40
  else, and she could never These animals live better than the people too.
• 1:11:45
  They've got furnishings and things to do. But like, there's no place to
• 1:11:47
  fucking sit in this apartment. You crazy white people, I know, But
• 1:11:51
  she does say in her talking head, She's like, we're in the beginning
• 1:11:55
  stages of our relationship, so I can't expect the world from him yet,
• 1:11:59
  but eventually it'll need to change. I'm sorry. There is something called a
• 1:12:03
  bare minimum that you should be able to expect from your partner. Don't live
• 1:12:09
  with your mom? Yeah, don't you know how crazy and even terrifying it
• 1:12:13
  is that your mother is living in your walking closet. Do you not understand
• 1:12:16
  the optics in terms of like what other people might think that your mom is
• 1:12:19
  living in your walking closet? Come on, guy, touch grass, that's
• 1:12:25
  what they say, Get out, live life. This is inappropriate. She's
• 1:12:29
  going to hate you and kill you, just like love without borders. Yes,
• 1:12:32
  that chick down in was it Cartagena? Where were they Panama? She
• 1:12:36
  was the spicy latina And yeah it was the big guy just like her.
• 1:12:42
  She's giving me the same vibes. She's going to hate him, physically assault
• 1:12:46
  him. Yeah, this couple reminds me the most of them Coltia and Larissa.
• 1:12:50
  Okay, I see that too. It's kind of the same trope.
• 1:12:54
  Yeah, Virgin lives with his mom, but this Clayton guy's way more passive
• 1:13:00
  than Culty. I mean, we'll see, Okay, we'll see. Next
• 1:13:04
  we get to Ashley and Menuel, which we didn't see last episode. I
• 1:13:09
  hated him, Yeah, I'm sorry. I hate everybody. I don't like
• 1:13:12
  a very loving person with a big heart et phone home. Yeah, I
• 1:13:15
  did not like this guy. The way he smarked, the way he walked,
• 1:13:18
  the way he looked around, the way he was in that therapy session.
• 1:13:21
  I was like, why are you with this guy, lady? Because
• 1:13:25
  the sex is good? How can it be good? It's not good?
• 1:13:30
  Is there such a dearth of men in Rochester, New York that you'd end
• 1:13:32
  up with this dude? Well, Ashley is insufferable in her own way though,
• 1:13:35
  Okay, I didn't see a lot of that. She's kind of annoying,
• 1:13:39
  Okay, she's kind of demanding too, Like they both pick at each
• 1:13:42
  other in the ways that piss each other off the most. Like he will
• 1:13:46
  be quiet and not reactive to when she is trying to express her feelings,
• 1:13:50
  and that pisses her off. But then she is so overbearing and assertive when
• 1:13:57
  she is expressing her feelings that he's like, fuck this, why don't even
• 1:14:00
  talk to you. I'm just gonna bang your back out later and it'll be
• 1:14:02
  fine for another hour. Right, So they open up with this scene freshly
• 1:14:09
  fucked right. Morning Morning Mood plays. I had to write down this song
• 1:14:13
  because I always forget the name of it. Okay, I played it in
• 1:14:15
  band. Oh you did? I did? Oh my god, you're so
• 1:14:18
  adorable. What was your instrument? It was a flu? You played the
• 1:14:21
  flu? Yeah, my mom played the flu. My god. It's like
• 1:14:26
  I was meant to be in this fan I know it go on. My
• 1:14:29
  god. The Morning Mood is playing, it's beautiful, and the producers are
• 1:14:32
  like, what the fuck just happened? Like an hour ago, you guys
• 1:14:35
  were yelling at each other and now you're fine, And she's like, we
• 1:14:39
  fucked it. Oh god, nasty. I have more of the standard for
• 1:14:43
  yourself. Yes, anybody will take you to bed honey, you're a beautiful
• 1:14:46
  woman. You don't need this literal pimple of a man in order to feel
• 1:14:51
  like you're worthwhile on this planet. This person is terrible, and I worry
• 1:14:56
  about your life. I feel like this could be a daylight NBC situation.
• 1:14:59
  Well, is he gonna kill you? I don't know. I think no.
• 1:15:02
  I think he'll leave her because he just wants the green card. But
• 1:15:05
  they have a long history. They've known each other for ten years. Has
• 1:15:09
  she been spending him, sending him a bunch of money? I don't think
• 1:15:12
  so. I can't remember. At the beginning of the season, I think
• 1:15:15
  she's probably sent him some money, but like not not as much as gino
• 1:15:18
  four thousand dollars for a wedding or wedding dress. But they've known each other
• 1:15:23
  for a while. So they're getting ready to go meet Ashley's friends because her
• 1:15:29
  friends are very skeptical of Manuel, as they should be because of his ego
• 1:15:32
  and his temper. He's such an idiot. In this dinner party, he's
• 1:15:35
  very rude. I mean they're just asking him questions like are you ready to
• 1:15:40
  get married? And he's like, well, eighty percent. But I mean,
• 1:15:45
  in all fairness. They've been fighting every minute since he landed, so
• 1:15:49
  it's like, yeah, he's not entirely sure. He wants to be stuck
• 1:15:53
  with this his whole life, and so the friends are like, well,
• 1:15:57
  you guys need to learn to communicate better, and man Will gets all triggered
• 1:16:00
  and shuts down and he's like yeah, whatever, Yeah, but there's obviously
• 1:16:04
  like a language barrier. He doesn't feel like he's being heard. He can't
• 1:16:09
  really communicate properly to everybody because Ashley's friends don't speak full Spanish. Do you
• 1:16:15
  speak a little bit but not a lot? And I don't know. This
• 1:16:17
  whole friend's dinner thing kind of gave me Danielle and Johann vibes a little bit
• 1:16:21
  where Ashley's like talking bad about him in English, so he can't understand she's
• 1:16:28
  talking about him to her friends in front of him, and I'm just like,
• 1:16:31
  that's shitty. Yes, Because her friends open up with asking him like,
• 1:16:35
  how's your time been here? Since you've gotten here, He's like,
• 1:16:38
  well, it's like a dream come true. And then Ashley's like, well
• 1:16:41
  it sucks. We've been fighting a lot, but the sex is good,
• 1:16:44
  I guess, so it's just like they have a weird it's just dynamic.
• 1:16:47
  Well, after they meet up with her friends and he's very rude. Then
• 1:16:53
  the next day they go to couple's therapy, and I think I thought it
• 1:16:57
  was cool that the couple's therapist was bilingual and so she could communicate with them
• 1:17:00
  both, and that was cool. Ashley was kind of based with this.
• 1:17:04
  She's like, I think couple's therapy is more preventive, like we need to
• 1:17:08
  be able to work on things before we get married and are like tied down
• 1:17:11
  to all of this and have this huge commitment, especially with the Kwan visa,
• 1:17:15
  And so I thought that was good. But in therapy, it doesn't
• 1:17:18
  seem like they're going to go anywhere because Manuel doesn't even want to be there.
• 1:17:23
  He's like, I don't even want to say anything. Yes, this
• 1:17:25
  is all stupid. Well, there's a lot of cultures that do not respond
• 1:17:29
  well at all to the idea of therapy. Yes, And at some point
• 1:17:32
  in therapy it gets brought up, like about communication, and Ashley's like,
• 1:17:39
  I want you to be transparent, and he's like, what can't a man
• 1:17:42
  just have secrets? Though the answer is privacy Though, I mean, like,
• 1:17:48
  dude, privacy in the sense of, like, you know, you
• 1:17:53
  don't tell her that you got a pimple on your butt or that you're going
• 1:17:56
  to the bathroom to jack ass. You can have privacy, of course,
• 1:17:59
  but not like total privacy and secrets where you're texting other people. It's inappropriate.
• 1:18:03
  Got jobs lined up in New York and you've got all this family in
• 1:18:06
  New York that you didn't tell her about before coming over here. Like he's
• 1:18:11
  shady as the Yes, he's just using her for the green card. I'm
• 1:18:15
  calling it. Next, we have Nicki and Justin Igor Igor. Yes,
• 1:18:20
  I refuse to call him Justin. Wow, it's terrible. A lot of
• 1:18:24
  people in the show probably know him as Justin Justin Igor. That's the morning
• 1:18:29
  after and they finally had sex. But you know Whatikes, it's not good
• 1:18:32
  enough for Nicky. She needs more Okay, she needs more horse riding.
• 1:18:36
  Yep, she needs more cunn lingis yikes. She needs him to give more
• 1:18:42
  as opposed to take big Yikes. I don't need to know any of this.
• 1:18:45
  This whole thing is just grust Listen. It's not about being trans or
• 1:18:48
  heteronormative, or about a pepe or a vagina it's like, I don't need
• 1:18:53
  to know about this, and I'm just like tired of Nicky's obsession with sex.
• 1:18:57
  Why are you crazy about it? You can't shut up about it?
• 1:19:01
  It's great, Like she I think she really holds a lot of value with
• 1:19:05
  for herself if she's getting sucked all the time, Like it's tied to herself,
• 1:19:10
  to her personal identity and currency. Yes, and I hate it.
• 1:19:13
  So if she's not doing it, then she doesn't have value in currency.
• 1:19:16
  But it is so immature, it is really toxic. It is really tier
• 1:19:20
  one, as we say, in terms of consciousness. It's bottom of the
• 1:19:24
  barrel. Honey, come out of the basement with your horse. Yet,
• 1:19:27
  well, she says, she's a leopard in heat. Okay, very very
• 1:19:30
  horny. It's not appropriate, she says, she's he's depriving her. I
• 1:19:34
  thought that was so fucked up. Yeah, I'm like, that is so
• 1:19:38
  many, that is so manipulative and got to feed the k It's like she
• 1:19:42
  assumes, because he's a macho man, that he'll he'll want to fuck her
• 1:19:45
  all the time, every minute of the day. And it's like, well,
• 1:19:47
  but igor's literally telling you that there's more to a relationship than sex.
• 1:19:51
  He was like that when you guys first started dating, he didn't even try
• 1:19:55
  to fuck you on the first few dates. He seems pretty sensitive and like
• 1:19:58
  emotionally connected and entire yes, and like he needs the emotional connection in order
• 1:20:02
  to get it on. Well, my thing is, and we've talked about
• 1:20:05
  this on the pod before, like with other people that we've covered in different
• 1:20:09
  shows, but like she brings a lot of hard energy. Men typically don't
• 1:20:13
  like that. And when you're talking and I'm sorry, I know that might
• 1:20:15
  be a boomer take, okay, but I actually think it's very true.
• 1:20:17
  Yes, like men typically not always, but men typically like to pursue that
• 1:20:23
  is what they do. And so if this is being turned on its head
• 1:20:26
  and it's being reversed, he's probably going to struggle and have a hard time
• 1:20:30
  knowing how to court you and want to bed you. Like just relax,
• 1:20:33
  chill back a little bit, soften, let him lead and dictate like the
• 1:20:39
  pace of how it's going to go. If you could just do that,
• 1:20:43
  I think you'd be having way more sex, oh for sure. But you
• 1:20:45
  just can't shut up about it, no, And it's all about like how
• 1:20:47
  she feels about it and I'm just like, shut the fuck up. It's
• 1:20:50
  crazy. So then they get ready to go meet Eager's friends, and honey,
• 1:20:56
  this was pretty interesting, wild wild times in multi this was crazy.
• 1:21:00
  I couldn't believe it. I was a little nervous. I'm like, oh
• 1:21:03
  my god, she's going to meet his friends, Like what are they gonna
• 1:21:06
  think? Are they going to be super bigoted? But they were actually pretty
• 1:21:10
  cool. A couple of those guys were hanging back and just staring at her.
• 1:21:13
  They were yeah, they were I mean, but can you blame them
• 1:21:15
  though, Like if they're in a small country, they're very traditional, very
• 1:21:19
  conservative. They're like, this is not the norm for them. And also
• 1:21:25
  she's so overt with her declarations about prostitution and her sexuality. The way she's
• 1:21:30
  just putting it in their face is culturally, I think, insensitive and disrespectful.
• 1:21:34
  So she doesn't give a shit. She's just showing up to be the
• 1:21:36
  main character and everybody else just has to be in the audience. Yes,
• 1:21:41
  and it's very weird, like she's doing a lot of sexual things too,
• 1:21:45
  Like Igor has a drink straw and he takes it out and she immediately goes
• 1:21:48
  to suck it and then she like puts her boobs in his face, and
• 1:21:51
  I'm just like, okay, stop, we do that just to scandalize you
• 1:21:56
  in your wife. Well yeah, but not in public. Never in Also,
• 1:22:00
  one time I did go out to dinner with my husband and my brother
• 1:22:03
  and his kids, and we went to this cool restaurant and askedpin and whatever
• 1:22:08
  my husband was eating smelled so good and sounded so good, so I asked
• 1:22:12
  for a little bit, and he gave me just the food out of his
• 1:22:14
  mouth into my own mouth like a baby bird. And everybody just screamed up
• 1:22:17
  the table. So I ate the food, food out of his mouth.
• 1:22:20
  It was baby that did happen once. Yes, I'm serious, that is
• 1:22:27
  it's highly disgusting. I can't believe we did it, but it was so
• 1:22:30
  fucking funny because everybody just couldn't believe it. Like that's the same energy that
• 1:22:33
  I'm talking about. Yes, so overt and so out of bounds in terms
• 1:22:38
  of what people think is normal, what they're used to. Well, and
• 1:22:41
  she's doing this shit in front of strangers she's never even met. She's got
• 1:22:43
  a fetish, honey, It totally, this is a fetish for her.
• 1:22:46
  It's crazy and so then at some point, Nicky breaks off with Roxy and
• 1:22:51
  Igor is left with the guys. She Nicky and Roxy go to talk and
• 1:22:57
  she immediately is like, so doven men eat the pussy? I can?
• 1:23:01
  I'm just like, what does somebody wake me up? Am I stuck in
• 1:23:06
  a nightmare? And then she immediately goes into how Egor's not fucking her enough,
• 1:23:11
  and she's like, well, he used to go down on me all
• 1:23:13
  the time before he knew I was trance. He used to pleasure all over
• 1:23:16
  moscit and now he won't. It all tastes the goodness of the biscuit.
• 1:23:24
  And this girl, this Moldovan girl, just like is traumatized, so steady
• 1:23:30
  and level, and I think she knows this is disrespectful and highly alarming,
• 1:23:34
  but she's keeping her cool. She's not going off yet because I feel like
• 1:23:39
  she knows that you're making a fool out of yourself. Uh huh, this
• 1:23:41
  has nothing to do with me. If this is the kind of shit you
• 1:23:44
  want to say to somebody who don't know and on camera, then go off,
• 1:23:46
  Queene. I mean, this is insane. It's been like what two
• 1:23:49
  days that she's been in a Moldova and she's like every fucking minute of the
• 1:23:55
  day, Like, we don't have sex enough, he doesn't need my pussy
• 1:23:57
  enough. Meanwhile, back at the table, the guys start to question Igor
• 1:24:03
  about immediately Nicki and whether Nicki has a penis or whether she has had bottom
• 1:24:12
  surgery. And this is a very inappropriate line of questioning in terms of out
• 1:24:15
  in the West, we would never do something like that. Again, you've
• 1:24:17
  got to take into consideration the context of the culture. And so they're asking
• 1:24:21
  him and he's answering, and he's like, no, she's had bottom surgery.
• 1:24:25
  She is just like any other women in that way. Yeah, And
• 1:24:28
  he says, you can't even tell. He's like, but when I get
• 1:24:30
  into it and I start thinking about it and thinking about what it is,
• 1:24:35
  then he gets turned off. And so he's having a hard time. Yes,
• 1:24:40
  excepting that she's transfer, he's really trying, I think to still love
• 1:24:44
  her, because I think he does have feelings for her. I mean,
• 1:24:45
  they had a whole ass relationship for two years before he knew she was tranced,
• 1:24:51
  so like, there's still those feelings there. But he's having a hard
• 1:24:55
  time. And this is apparently the first time that they've seen each other since
• 1:24:58
  two thousand and six. She looks different. That's what. She's a physical
• 1:25:01
  freak show. She's a physical freak show. Absolutely. So it's not just
• 1:25:08
  that it's the fact that they haven't been together in a really long time.
• 1:25:11
  It's the fact that she lied to him about something so important and in a
• 1:25:15
  throwaway like manner, just told him that she was born a man like.
• 1:25:21
  Just the way that she's conducted herself has traumatized him deeply, and so he's
• 1:25:27
  trying to get his footing here. Yeah, I really feel like he does
• 1:25:30
  have a connection with her, he is in love with her to some degree,
• 1:25:32
  but the way she's conducting herself is so poisonous that there's no way that
• 1:25:38
  this survives. And I just feel I'm like worried about this guy actually,
• 1:25:42
  because are these friends going to go back to their families and then to their
• 1:25:45
  communities and tell everybody what he Gore is up to with this trans woman and
• 1:25:49
  his ego going to have some problems in Moldova about it, which is something
• 1:25:53
  Nicki doesn't fucking care about at all. Nope, and is taking no pains
• 1:25:58
  to make sure he's okay. It's all about her what she wants. Well,
• 1:26:00
  she's okay, yep, but no consideration whatsoever for ecor none. And
• 1:26:04
  I feel bad for him because he's really trying to show her that he's like
• 1:26:08
  not ashamed of her, he's proud to be with. This is so brave,
• 1:26:11
  it's so so cannot be overstated, unbelievably brave. Like he is showing
• 1:26:17
  affection to her, and he's defending her a little bit to his friends.
• 1:26:20
  He's like, no, like she's full on woman, Like you know,
• 1:26:24
  you can't tell her a part or anything, like I struggle with the trend
• 1:26:27
  stuff. But like when I first met her, she was just like this
• 1:26:30
  beautiful exotic woman and I was immediately drawn to her and I still love her.
• 1:26:34
  And his friends are taking it pretty well. I don't know if it's
• 1:26:36
  for the camera where it's they're gunging, they're totally yeah, But I think
• 1:26:42
  they're still trying to be his bro though, and like trying to be there
• 1:26:45
  for him. What would they be saying though, if the cameras weren't there,
• 1:26:48
  That's the thing. Yeah, that is the question. That is the
• 1:26:50
  question. So we'll see how that plays out. Last but not least,
• 1:26:56
  we have Devin and Nick. Okay, they're going to meet Nick's parents the
• 1:27:01
  long awaited parent meetup, and Devin and Nick are both freaked out nervous about
• 1:27:08
  it. But Nick's parents are fucking lovely, right, producer driven set up,
• 1:27:15
  like anticipating that his parents are going to be hard nosed, strict and
• 1:27:20
  difficult on Devin. But they were lovely. They were lovely. They called
• 1:27:24
  her skinny, they called her pretty. So why is she end up crying?
• 1:27:28
  This is the thing. Defan's kind of annoying. She's young, She's
• 1:27:30
  twenty three, right, Nick is like thirty something, and she's just very
• 1:27:35
  immature, Like the family's trying to connect with her, even though she doesn't
• 1:27:40
  speak Korean. But they're like, do you know any Korean words? And
• 1:27:44
  she's like, no, I'm too embarrassed to say anything. I can't.
• 1:27:47
  I'm like, I'm going to be such a boomer right now, I'm going
• 1:27:49
  to be such a generational boomer. And they be like, no, I
• 1:27:53
  don't want to offend anybody because most of the people are probably not as old
• 1:27:56
  as me. Right, no absolute facts, hashtag facts. But I'm like
• 1:28:00
  toughened up a little bit. For real, You're going to a new country,
• 1:28:02
  You're meeting these people. The one thing Nick asked you to do is
• 1:28:05
  don't cry in front of them, because it's not going to be appreciating.
• 1:28:09
  This is the first thing that you do. Open your mouth, learn how
• 1:28:11
  to talk. It's like, what's gonna happen if there's a zombie apocalypse,
• 1:28:15
  Devin, are you gonna just cry in the center of the street or are
• 1:28:17
  you gonna fucking get a gun or a bayonet and you're gonna go and hide
• 1:28:20
  in a bunker and you're gonna do what you've gotta do, Like fucking you're
• 1:28:23
  having Korean barbecue. Well, the nicest people I've ever seen on this franchise,
• 1:28:28
  and you're crying. God, grow up. I know. It's like
• 1:28:31
  a whole generation of these babies. What are we doing? Learn how to
• 1:28:35
  talk and be the social situation. I'm sorry, social anxiety exists, though
• 1:28:40
  social awkwardness exists. It's a lot of pressure because she's bringing him. I
• 1:28:43
  get it. I get it, But I'm at the same time, I'm
• 1:28:45
  a cold hearted bitch. I'm like, I'm gonna smack you. Look why
• 1:28:48
  you crying? Baby? I have an actual diagnosis of anxiety. I'm like,
• 1:28:51
  I get it. I understand being nervous, but his parents are literally
• 1:28:56
  being so nice to you though, like the entire time, and she starts
• 1:28:59
  crying because his parents are like, are you going to come back to Korea?
• 1:29:02
  You know when you move to America, Like I'm kind of worried that
• 1:29:04
  you're just like never gonna come back and we're going to miss you. Normal
• 1:29:08
  question. And Devin's like, well the pressure, and I'm overwhelmed. I'm
• 1:29:11
  like, what are you fucking talking about? You are dating a guy from
• 1:29:14
  Korea, Like you have to know that you guys should make regular trips out
• 1:29:17
  to Korea and like or at least fly his fucking parents out every once in
• 1:29:21
  a while so that way he can still have a relationship with his family.
• 1:29:25
  Yes, and what you're talking about about the questions that they might ask you
• 1:29:27
  as well, and maybe practice in the mirror before you go there. I
• 1:29:30
  feel like I'm being really harsh and people are going to be mad at me
• 1:29:31
  because I'm coming down so hard. I don't care. I agree. If
• 1:29:34
  your personal internal world is so debilitating that you can't even have a conversation and
• 1:29:42
  if you're crying at the table, I'm like, you've got to go to
• 1:29:44
  therapy. You're an Ethan Plath. You need to open your mouth and learn
• 1:29:47
  how to talk to people. You gotta be able to stand in a centered
• 1:29:49
  way in your body and exist in the world with presents. Devin, I
• 1:29:54
  know you're twenty three, and I get it. I'm just grow up though,
• 1:29:58
  for real, Like, and his parents are so zombies are going to
• 1:30:00
  get you. I know you're the first ones the zombies are going to get
• 1:30:03
  well for sure. But his parents are so nice when she's crying there,
• 1:30:06
  like, don't worry about it, Like we support you guys, one hundred
• 1:30:10
  percent. We think you're beautiful, you're great, we support your marriage,
• 1:30:14
  like we love you, and just you know, come visit us every once
• 1:30:15
  in a while. Like they react very very very nice. Yep, very
• 1:30:18
  nice. And then it concludes. They say goodbye and they're like bye,
• 1:30:21
  we miss you and everything, and it's great, Like it couldn't have gone
• 1:30:26
  any better. Well it could if she didn't she didn't cry, and if
• 1:30:29
  she actually maybe with her practice Korean words and she tried to anticipate the conversation
• 1:30:33
  and made them feel just as comfortable as they were clearly trying to make her
• 1:30:38
  feel. But she didn't do any of that because she's American. Yeah,
• 1:30:42
  cater to me crying though I'm sad, distress alive. It is overwhelming to
• 1:30:49
  be alive. Get it, snap out of it. By the way,
• 1:30:56
  I'm not a boomer. No, she's not. I'm not a boomer,
• 1:30:58
  so don't come man, you bro okay boomer. I'm jen X. Of
• 1:31:02
  course I'm gen X. It's the coolest generation. And I won't hear a
• 1:31:06
  dissenting voice about whatever you say. Every generation the coolest generation. Anyway,
• 1:31:11
  Devin, you didn't impress me. Maybe you'll do better in Arkansas, but
• 1:31:15
  highly doubt it. We'll see. And then we get to the preview where
• 1:31:18
  Nick proposes to Devin and it's so great. Ashley Menell fight. Lets have
• 1:31:26
  depressed babies. We can cry in the wilderness. Me, dude, Nick's
• 1:31:33
  gonna have a dard time in Arkansas. He's not gonna like He's not gonna
• 1:31:36
  like that at all. Ashley and Manuel fight after couples therapy. Shocker.
• 1:31:43
  Nobody cares Nikky and Justin. Igor goes shopping for things for Nicky to wear
• 1:31:47
  to meet his parents. Oh, I can't imagine it's going to be such
• 1:31:51
  a train. Oh my god. Honiley and Clayton meet up with somebody,
• 1:31:58
  maybe Clayton's sister, I don't know who. Thinks it's fucked up. Honory
• 1:32:00
  won't post him on ig Okay, won't make their relationship official. But that's
• 1:32:04
  because Honorley won't tell her family that she's dating Clayton. And the real reason
• 1:32:09
  why she's in America, well because she's not actually dating Clayton. She's using
• 1:32:12
  Clayton. Yes for from me for sure. And then Jasmine is still crying
• 1:32:17
  in the empty parking lot in the rain, begging Gino to buy her a
• 1:32:21
  ticket home and calls him a liar. And then Rob and Sophie meet up
• 1:32:26
  to talk about his cheating and she's gonna be like, I forgive you,
• 1:32:29
  but don't do it again. And I don't know he's gonna do it again.
• 1:32:32
  I kind of got the vibe that she's on her way out with him.
• 1:32:34
  Maybe it's just wishful thinking because he's such a turbo loser. No,
• 1:32:39
  she's a cloud goblin. I think she just wants to be on TV.
• 1:32:42
  Yes, I think they're going to be together. Watch them beyond the Last
• 1:32:44
  Resort. I don't want them on the last result, I take it.
• 1:32:46
  I want Gino and Jazzman. If they're doing a Kamma Sutra exercise, I'll
• 1:32:49
  take anybody. I love it. Yes, I wonder if Justin an Igor
• 1:32:55
  or just An Igor and Niki will yes, so justice justice for Igor,
• 1:33:00
  Yes, just justice or her Igor. I wonder if they'll be on the
• 1:33:01
  last Resort. Oh, God, they should be. That would be so
• 1:33:06
  terrific. I would love that. I want to just I want to put
• 1:33:10
  in my vote for that right now. Thank you TLC. I know you're
• 1:33:13
  watching. Yes, well, I thought this was a great episode. I
• 1:33:15
  certainly entertained. My husband at the end of it said, you are not
• 1:33:19
  watching another episode of this without me. I gotta watch it. He does
• 1:33:25
  love the show. He loves a train wreck. Honey, you know he
• 1:33:27
  does. And is there anything else we need to say to these beautiful rat
• 1:33:32
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• 1:33:36
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• 1:33:44
  you, and we'll be back next week for potentially the season finale of Sister
• 1:33:48
  Wives or whatever is next week Thanksgiving it is, Oh Jesus Christ, Are
• 1:33:54
  we even going to get that episode? Yeah, there's gonna be I told
• 1:33:57
  you there's going to be an episode. I try to tell you every literally
• 1:34:00
  last year, the game was a break, did they not. There's no
• 1:34:02
  break. Okay, it's going to be another episode. So we're gonna be
• 1:34:05
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• 1:34:09
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• 1:34:13
  much and Pea