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Crushing Strongholds #047 Special Guest Rob Rene` Exodus Strong · One Voice Many Conversations

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_00: Hello everyone.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to another great episode of Crushing Stronghold.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is a podcast where we turn pain into power, trauma into triumph, and a place where we get to expose the lies of the enemy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And how do we do that?
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  SPEAKER_00: We do that through the truth and the word and the love of Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: We also do that by sharing testimonies.
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  SPEAKER_00: Testimonies of faith and power, testimonies that are inspirational, testimonies that help actually dismantle strongholds in people's lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you share your testimony, it helps other people break free from the struggles and the strife that they go through.
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  SPEAKER_00: And today I'm super excited.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um I have an amazing, brilliant gentleman to bring on, and he's probably going to be the brains of this conversation today because he's super smart and um very informative.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I cannot wait for you all to meet him and get to hear what he has to say.
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  SPEAKER_00: He has a wonderful testimony to share.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: Testimony about how his life took a complete different turn from where he was planning on going.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um as once an athletic runner wanted to do that as a profession, um, endured uh a fatal accident and then had a pivotal moment that um initiated a profound transformation in his life.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I just cannot wait for you all to meet him.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm going to introduce Rob Renee to the panel.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so thank you, Rob, for coming to Crushing Strongholds.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I cannot wait to have this conversation with you.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so excited to be here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for having me.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I'm excited.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: So, like I said before, I I have read a little bit about like your testimony and and what you endured and what you went through.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: One thing I I wanted to point out real quick before I hand you over the reins and tell you to take off with it, is something that you said in in your um in your um testimony on the pod match that I was reading that I really liked what you said.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: So when we deal with with strongholds in our life, a lot of times I find that people are just are kind of stuck and they can't get past that um incident that happens or that tragedy or that trauma that they're facing.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: But one thing I like that you said was you were initiated, something initiated you to take a different um look or to transition into something completely different from where you thought you were heading um with your your career, with your life, with probably your dreams and your goals, your aspirations, like everything came piling down on you.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: So uh why don't you tell our listeners kind of like what I'm talking about?
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_00: Because they're probably like, what did she say?
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  SPEAKER_00: And and um give us a heads up about who you are, what you do, and um what God has been doing in your life.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_02: It sounds sounds great.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like you like you you mentioned, and I appreciate the the background as uh yeah, I I just yeah, as a young kid, uh I did all types of sports.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_02: I loved everything athletic and had I was the baby of uh two older brothers, and so you know, I just uh liked all sports, but running was just one of those things that God gave me a a special talent for that I was just extra special at that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I gravitated toward running and uh you know ended up doing really well and won a national championship when I was young and and uh decided to do that as my as my career.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I want to go get a I want to get a college degree and and uh I ended up getting a full ride running scholarship to Division I school and and uh made the U.S.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: junior team.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was the second best miler in the country at the at the time for 19 years and younger.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I made the U.S.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: on that junior team, we went on an international tour.
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  SPEAKER_02: I won one of the international races.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh beat the best runners from from six different countries, and uh beat the boy who beat me at nationals just by a hair.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_02: And uh so excited there.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was at the top of the world, right?
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: Everything was going well, my training was going well, my coaches were super excited where I was headed, and then boom, you know, that winter I was out on a uh training run in in Utah and uh I got hit by a four by four truck um uh while I was out on that run, and it just was pretty crazy.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_02: It was like my friend was behind me and he jumped into the ditch and and uh yelled my name, and I turned around and just saw this car coming, and there's nothing it was a four by four truck, and it's like I had nowhere to go.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_02: Just said, I'm gonna get hit, gonna get hit, and boom, it uh threw me 36 feet, and I landed on my face, and just really blessed to be alive.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_02: That that was the first major transition in my life where you like you said, that that truck initiated a change in my life.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, okay, I guess I'm no longer gonna be a runner.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, and uh I did uh you know come back, not from a running perspective from that, but I did heal and uh I was tried to run again and and couldn't do that, but uh just went into the corporate world and I kind of did from there what the world tells you to do, right?
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_02: The world tells you to get a college degree and you go work for a large corporation and you get a 401k and you buy a house and you get a white picket fence and you buy get a dog and you get three kids and you you know it's like I did everything that the world chased told me to do.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_02: I chased all of that.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_02: I chased money, I chased success, I chased the corporate ladder, and I was doing really well at that.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then boom, you know, God, it just is amazing how he works because uh the pandemic hit, and I call that my second truck because you know that first truck hit me and it just changed my life dramatically, right?
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_02: I was on the top of the world, everything's going perfect, and uh then boom, you know, my life just changed dramatically, and uh all my aspirations and dreams were gone in an instant, and then here I am in the corporate world, and I'm making my way up the corporate ladder, and everything's going well, making tons of money and living for me, me, me, me, me, me, which is uh you know, something we'll come to in a little bit a little bit.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but that was all uh about me, and then boom, the the pandemic.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_02: And then that was the first time in my life I'd been able to sit back and look at what's going on in the world.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_02: And uh man, was I um just shocked.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'd been so focused on on this little myop myopic view of the world, on on my life, and how I can help my family, and how I can help my children uh be in better schools, and I can have a bigger house, and I can have a bigger TV, and I can have you know the best of best of everything.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um it was all this little window.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't looking outward.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_02: And when the pandemic hit, I I did um start to, you know, I had time because I ended up losing my sales job because I was a traveling sales guy.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_02: You couldn't you can't travel when you when COVID hit.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_02: So they downsized the the sales team, and I started doing research, and man, I am so excited about that skill.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, because it was uh just I implore anybody and everybody now to start thinking for yourself and don't don't listen to what other people are telling you and start researching things for yourself, and because it's just a skill set that will be good for your the rest of your life, no matter what the situation is.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_02: You can go research things and and I went deep dive on health because I'm like, I want to save my family.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: All right, I didn't want to die.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_02: You know one want no one wanted to die.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_02: So I started digging in on health, and I saw the vilification of this one doctor, and that's what really shifted my whole life and process was they were um suing this doctor for billions of dollars, like with a B.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, wow, he must be really, really bad.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_02: And and what he was talking about was vitamin D.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, hold on, you know, uh, from early on in my running days, nutrition was super important to me, and so I knew how to fuel this body, and I'm like, the sun is like 100% natural, and vitamin D is a you know from that, and you don't have oxygen if you don't have vitamin D.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: And so I'm like I did research on vitamin D.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, okay, is it really bad?
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_02: And vitamin D is amazing, so that there's nothing wrong with vitamin D.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, okay, the doctor must be really bad.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_02: So I dug into him, and and uh I couldn't find anything wrong with the doctor, he's a holistic practitioner, really helping people.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I was like, okay, I don't understand.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: So why?
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_02: Why would they be suing him for billions of dollars?
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: And I so I started uncovering the motive or for why they were suing him, and and that's when I my eyes just were opened, right?
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_02: I think the Lord led me down these these paths because uh as I was going through that transition of this that second truck, I was going down a parallel path.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_02: I was digging into health and trying to keep my family safe, but I just felt uneasy about what's going on in the world.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I've been a Christian my entire life, but I had never really practiced it, right?
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_02: I I would go to church on Sunday and I would love the message and you know, I'd worship.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_02: And as soon as the the door hit me in the butt, I didn't think about church until the next Sunday.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: And uh so I never practiced it.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_02: But I started, I was curious, so I started reading the Bible and uh and I started researching when I was doing all this research.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: I started researching, okay, is the Bible true?
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_02: So my my brother, um my mentor, four years older than I, he you know, taught me about the tap method, and you look at the textual criticism of the Bible, is the actual text accurate?
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then the the archaeology you know evidence of the Bible, and is it archaeologically accurate?
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_02: And then you look at the prophetic evidence of the Bible, the tap method, and it's just like holy smokes, as you dig into each one of those, each one of them in in and of themselves is actually crazy how uh authentic and accurate the Bible is.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: And so after that research, I'm like, okay, this is like the most authentic piece of text that you know, series of text that's ever been developed in the the world, and uh so maybe I should read it.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_02: So good advice.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was like, imagine that.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_02: So I actually started studying the Bible and reading the Bible, read it cover to cover, and during that period, I developed my relationship as a personal relationship with God.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'd I'd been or I'd had a religion, I didn't have a relationship, and uh, so that that's where my my big transition was through that process of just being, you know, in a really bad space from my health and being a really bad space from where the world was.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_02: I was just things were really, you know, at that point, really not great for me.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: And uh so I would the Bible was such an amazing transition for my my body and my my faith, and uh, and and I had so much fun digging into the Bible and digging into all this research on health because what I uncovered in the health world was just tragic.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: It was just like holy smokes, our our healthcare system was taken over in the early 1900s, and uh you don't it's it's hard to believe.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, man, we're the most modern country in the world, we have the best journalism in the world.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: This is before COVID.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, we you know, I love my country, right?
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_02: I wanted to run for our country, I wanted to you know be an Olympic athlete, I wanted to to support it, but man, I I was so frustrated when I started uncovering how corrupt a lot of the things within not just our country, but the world are and how evil certain people are.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: And uh when I uncovered the the takeover of our medical system and uh in the early 1900s and all the research related to that, I just started digging in, digging in and researching this and researching that, and went down all the rabbit holes as people call them.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and uh now it's just uh my eyes are wide open to the corruption in the world and uh how there is good, and it's a really a good versus evil fight that's happening across our world.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's not right versus left or um you know black versus white or yellow, you know.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's like it has not that it's it's a really a good versus evil fight that's happening, and uh so it's been fascinating.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just just having a blast digging digging into all of those things.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: And in the last five years, the Lord has taught me so many things about my faith, but also about health, and so that's why I call myself a faith and health warrior because I believe I finally am doing what the Lord put me on this earth to do, and that is so fascinating because I look at my entire past and it's like I can see how he trained me, right?
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_02: He trained me early on to learn about health and about nutrition and how to take care of this incredible temple that he gave us, and then I just totally trashed it, right?
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: I went into the corporate world and I just started doing thinking, you know, for me, everything was about me, me, me, me, me.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I drank every day.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: I became I became a functional alcoholic.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_02: I it was really, you know, I'm eight years sober now, so I'm super excited about that.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_02: But I was just overweight and I was just like doing all the you know, just not living for God at all.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: It was all about about me.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: And then man, that the pandemic hit, and uh I started learning about health in a lot more detail, and that's been fascinating.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_02: And then obviously, my relationship with him, he's teaching me a lot about my faith, and uh you know, the the whole reason we're here is to share the gospel, right?
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_02: And so uh I've uh he's given me time, talent, and treasure related to to help.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna use that time, talent, and treasure um to help people, and uh through my work is my is my uh mission, right?
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_02: Is that I I'm going to try to help people with their health, and if I can have a faith conversation with them uh as I'm helping them with their health, then uh obviously I want to do that.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: So there you go.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry for the the the long-winded uh background, but that's me.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, I'm getting you the rain.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: So so that's awesome.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: I love that your um website is called Exodus Strong because Exodus, I I love what it says in Exodus about you know, um getting healing and um focusing in on natural stuff, you know, like the natural herbs and stuff in the Bible, like the frankincense, the myrrh, the figs, the cinnamon, the uh, you know, there's so so much to that.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: But also, um I wanted to share this with you.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: When when you're talking about Exodus, it talks about um uh Jehovah, I think Jehovah Rapha, I think it's called.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: It means the Lord, the the Lord heals.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: And that's in the book of Exodus.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I love it because your your website is Exodus Strong.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I think it's really awesome that you actually use that as your you know, the title of your website because like in Exodus 15, 26, you know, it talks about who who provides the physical and emotional and the spiritual restoration.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's the Lord, the Lord does all of the providing.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: We just have to dive into it and pull it out and start using what the what the good Lord gave us.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: He gave us our hands, he gave us our feet, he gave us a mind, he gave us a body, you know, in order to take care of ourselves.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of times we just rely on, like you said, the doctors.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm really big on talking about like the pharmaceuticals because the pharmaceuticals, the stuff they're putting in our bodies that the doctors are actually giving us, sometimes I think is like is like a double-edged sword because I've actually had to um go to doctors and say, Yeah, I'm not taking this medication because the effect of the medication is worse than the issue that I came to you with.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: And they would be like, But this is not a good idea, you need to take this medication.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, Yeah, I'm not gonna do that because I'm already seeing effects from the the pharmaceutical medication you've given me.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't like it.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't like it.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I started shaking.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I I I thought I had like Teresa syndrome because I was shaking.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: The medication was making me anxious, I was nervous, and um, I started having anxiety, I couldn't leave the house and I did the research on the medication that he had me on, and every symptom that I had came from that medication, and I was like, Yep, nope, I'm not taking that no more.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, it's not gonna help you.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, It will help you.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: I go, I have faith, I believe that God's gonna God's gonna heal me through this.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not taking it, and and so I just I don't take hardly any pharmaceuticals.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even like taking over the over-the-counter medications if I can help it because there's just so much garbage in it, you know.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what's so fascinating.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: That is my the research that I've been doing this last five years, is just digging into all of all of exactly that.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's just like it's so incredible how God designed our temples.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_02: And uh man, if we if you take care of the temple and you give it the right nutrients and you give it the right setup, it does he designed it to heal itself, right?
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_02: That's like literally in 1526, Exodus 1526, it's like, for I am the Lord, your healer, right?
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like he is, he he's the one who heals, but he also, and it's fascinating to me that he put in the Bible the things that we need to do to take care of this temple, right?
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: So there's all the nutrients that are in the Bible.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_02: I researched all of them, and I was like, wow, how can I come up with something that's just absolutely amazing that really helps people in a in a substantial way?
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I couldn't, I could I found lots of amazing herbs and superfoods, and you know, if I could find the bomb of Gilead, it would be amazing, right?
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: Because then I can heal anybody, but uh haven't been able to find that yet.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I did find uh all sorts of herbs and superfoods that were great, but I couldn't find anything that was just like different than what was already out on the market, and uh, and then he is so good, he led me to this practitioner in California who uh was working on uh hydrogen and molecular hydrogen.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: And uh when he was telling me about what it does, I'm like, okay, hydrogen, that's like the base element that God created, right?
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's like the smallest element in the in existence, right?
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: It was like, okay, that's interesting.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_02: And then I was like, how does that help the human body?
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: So I started researching that.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, my gosh, there's thousands of studies on molecular hydrogen and how it helps the body.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: And so we partnered together.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_02: I took his molecular hydrogen component and added the best seven biblical herbs and superfoods from the Bible that complement what the hydrogen does, and we created a product called Exodus, and uh that's just so fascinating because it like gives you the right nutrients your body needs, and it gives you the you know, like has so we put barley grass and wheatgras in it, which that's of the nutrients you're missing.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: And then, you know, as I was doing this research in the on the healthcare world, you know, you look at the way we're eating things today, and you know, 70% of our food is ultra-processed food, is what we're eating.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: There's no nutrients in it, so we're just missing uh a lot of that.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: So we put um the um barley grass and wheatgrass to give you the base nutrients.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: You just take a couple of capsules and you're you're good for the day from a nutrient perspective.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's not everything you need, but at least it helps give you the base, and then it's got saffron in it.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_02: Saffron is amazing, like when you're going through your anxiety and stress, that's what saffron's for.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: It just helps your you smooth it out and and helps with your cognitive thinking.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so that's been but especially with COVID, that's one of the biggest uh side effects of just people who got COVID was brain fog.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: And uh this saffron is amazing at that.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: And then we added cumin and aloe.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: Aloe has a whole bunch of benefits for your gut.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then cumin, frankincense, and myrrh, those combinations help reduce inflammation.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: And if you I have a podcast called uh used to be called I Am Pain Free.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm renaming it to Biohackingville podcast, but the reason why I mentioned that is I've been studying pain for a long time.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_02: Uh because pain, I as I was researching the medical industry, it was fascinating to me how many people were in pain.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: There's like uh staff stats that show 50% of our seniors are in some type of pain or have chronic pain.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, wow, that's a lot.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: 50%.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's a really big number.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_02: And then I was like, holy smokes, I started researching the pharmaceutical industry.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's like they're on an average of 15 different prescription medications in a year period.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's like that's tragic.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: Because then you start researching those drugs, like you said, specifically, it's like you have a side effect.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: Any drug gives you a side effect, and then you go see another specialist, and the specialist gives you another drug for that side effect, and then you go to another drug drug to and you're by the their average, they're on 15 different things.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's just it's really tragic.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: And so I have just have a big mission of my personally is I want to help people get off of as many medications as they can because God.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: God did design this body to heal itself.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: So let's look at the cause of all of the things that you're happening in your body.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: And if we can help resolve the initial issue, then the root cause, we can help solve the root cause.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: And guess what?
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: You don't have the symptom or the problem.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's been been fascinating.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, let's get back to the basics and help people with nutrition and how God designed our bodies to take that nutrition and our organs to work correctly.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: And and uh so I have a blast uh helping people do that.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's really awesome.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: I know that so my grandma has full dementia.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: She's 95, and um I found out just she's on lots of medications, and I'm still digging into those.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I know that I can't just take her off of them cold turkey like I want to, you know.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so one of the medications she was on.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: That could be really dangerous, right?
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like yeah, yeah, like you know, that might be uh not a good idea, but um one of the medications she was on actually causes dementia.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: It literally causes cognitive slowdown in the brain, and your brain literally just goes to sleep and it's in a resting stage, so it doesn't function or there's no stimulation to your brain.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, why are they giving my grandma who has dementia a medication that causes dementia?
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: And so I literally started taking her off from it, you know, a little bit at a time, a little we're still working her down, you know.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I noticed we've been we've decreased it by 50% now.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: And like she's already more alert, not a hundred percent because she's had dementia for you know a good 10 years.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like not like it's gonna correct itself overnight.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm really curious to see what's gonna happen when I can get her completely off from it, because they say, don't just take her off cold turkey, you have to wean her off from it.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: She's been on it for a while, and I'm like, yeah, no wonder, you know, no wonder why her dementia is getting worse.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: They kept adding more to it instead of reducing it, trying to get her off from it.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so I did the opposite.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: I started weaning her off and I started seeing improvement.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I told the doctor, I said, I want her off this medication, so we're gonna do whatever we can to get her off from it.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna take her off a little by little by little each month, you know.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: So this month we're gonna probably drop her down at another 25 milligrams so that she'll be only on 25 milligrams instead of a hundred, like she was.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, good.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um I have her down to 50 and she's doing better.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: I think she's doing better.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, she's she's more talkative.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: She she can she doesn't understand everything you're saying, but um she does understand, you know, and and before she wouldn't even talk, she would just look at you like, are you even talking to me?
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't even know who you are, you know?
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: And and I was I've seen an improvement just with that one pill.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I can only imagine with all of the other medications that she's on.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm I I don't want to like obliterate them all, you know, you know, and have her go, what happened to me?
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: But um, I am working on reducing them as much as I can because she's on like 15, like you said, like 15 prescriptions.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: And every time they come to my house, they'll say, Well, maybe we should try this one.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe and I said, Maybe we should just leave it alone to stop, like enough.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's enough.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's all they're taught.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's that's what's so frustrating is that they're taught to give people drugs.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and it's that they're not taught to help look at what's the the the source of the problem.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: And that, you know, one of the things I did for didn't mention when I was talking about Exodus, right?
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: That the the molecular hydrogen component.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: So we add those seven biblical ingredients I was talking about, but then the molecular hydrogen is so cool in the respect that, and it relates to your dementia discussion, so that's why I mentioned it.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: Was the molecular hydrogen will go it goes into the blood brain barrier.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: So it crosses a blood-brain barrier.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: And molecular hydrogen is known to be a master antioxidant, so it gets rid of the bad cells in your bloodstream and then helps your mitochondrial process work more effectively.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: So it really does help with cognitive issues, and then um one of the things that we're working on within my company is really fun.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_02: With the the we have a I I've literally writed a book called The Light Code, and the light code talks about the four pillars of health, and light is a big uh the is the first one.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: You know, God the first thing God created, right, is light.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, we're developing a hat that has a uh it's a red light therapy hat.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, cool.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's got uh three different versions of uh wavelengths, and that's got a 1070 wavelength that goes really, really deep into the brain that really is helping people with the with the and we have a our frequency card that goes with it, which is the second pillar of our of our four-pillar system.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_02: So light is the first pillar, frequencies is the second pillar, and then fuel is the third pillar, and fuel is the exodus product.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but the quantum energy product, we have a a cognitive um quantum energy solution too that that's integrated to the hat.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_02: So you wear you know, wear this hat, and it literally is putting red light into the body.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_02: But then the neat thing about it is got that 10 near infrared, which is goes about an inch deep into the body, but the 1070 goes even deeper and is really, really helpful for people with advanced um cognitive issues.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: So it'd be interesting.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm excited to get out to people who have advanced diseases like that because it would really help.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm wondering if my grandma would let me put it on their head.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she might be if there's a way to do it, like maybe a scarf or something.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: But I know that the the red light therapy, um, I've heard of red light therapy as well before, but um, I've not tried it yet.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like because it does a lot.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it works on it, it can work on your skin.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: It can work on hair.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: It actually like that hat would probably work on somebody with hair loss as well.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I mean I need I need to I literally I literally have been doing it twice a day.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll we'll see in the next uh month or two how my yeah, I'll bring it on in a month, and we're you're gonna have this whole of who I'll look like Jesus, it'll be great.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, I was reading that it does help with hair loss.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: It also helps with like um people that have skin um skin issues like rosacea and um and bad acne.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: It helps with um all kinds of different stuff that the red light therapy actually helps with.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, the mask for yeah, yeah.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_02: And um this mask that is amazing, right?
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_02: So it literally goes in and and uh helps the the skin um as well.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like that's what's so fascinating to me is God created light, right?
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: And so you use these tools that he already provided for us, and it's just amazing how how it's helping people.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_02: So that's what I'm just so passionate about now, and that's why I wrote the book because like he taught me about these things, and it wasn't by accident.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: He literally the frequency thing was so weird when he started teaching me about frequencies because I'm like, Oh, come on, give me a break.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: Because I wanted to go develop these supplements to people that's like nutrients and you know, herbs and all these things that I was learning.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: I was just like, Okay, I'm gonna go do this.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I met this uh formulator who was helping me research all the ingredients and which what herbs help do what, and I was just doing a deep dive on the science on all of that, and he's like, Have you heard of uh uh quantum energy?
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, Quantum computing, I've heard of because I came from a technology field in in my sales career, uh, but I'd never heard of quantum energy.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_02: And so he introduced me to this mad scientist who's been working on this stuff for 30 years, and I thought the guy was nuts.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, he gave me this, he gave me this little patch, and he said, Well, I said, What do I do with it?
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_02: He says, put it on your body.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_02: So I put it on my my body, and I'm like, okay, it's like got medicine in it, and medicine's gonna go into my body and help me.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, no, like then what?
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, it's got a frequency on it.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, frequency, that sounds weird, and uh, and yeah, I didn't understand it and didn't believe it, and then uh the I started researching, right?
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, let me see if this guy's nuts, and so I started researching the human body, and I was like, Oh my gosh, the body is amazing.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_02: That it's it's we're made up of energy, and even our cells interact with each other via vibration, so and those vibrations give off guess what a frequency.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh my gosh, so frequencies are just like part of everything, and then I realized our phone that you use, your you know, cell phone uses a frequency, the radio you we used to listen to, you know, you dial in a frequency, right?
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so then I realized frequencies weren't weird, they're everywhere, and their colors are frequency, for example, sound is a frequency.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_02: And so when I learned that frequencies weren't weird, I'm like, okay, that's okay.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: And then I learned the body is it made up of energy and it interacts with frequencies, that's when it became fascinating.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: Because then I did the research on what he was putting on this patch, and it was fascinating.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_02: There's been research by IBM uh researchers and and Stanford researchers that you you put these little uh microscopic crystalline structures, uh they're little microscopic crystals, and they can be programmed with intentions, and they can be programmed with information.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: So you we program the frequencies and intention of the issue that people have onto these little uh crystals, and then we put them on the patch, and then when you apply it to your body, it actually is connecting to the energy system in your body.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know we had an energy system.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, what?
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_02: That's really strange, but um, the more you do research, it's like it's real, and God's way God designed us, and uh, so we put these frequencies into your energy system and it starts helping with the issue.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_02: What one of the ones that is our marquee product is a pain relief product, and so it helps people that have issues and and um have health problems, uh chronic chronic issues.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it helps with that.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_02: So um it's been really fascinating to to to see.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_02: So anyway, I don't know where I was headed down the thing.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: I think it makes sense because yeah, in our mind, like we have neuro we have neurotransmission in our mind.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: We have the transmitters that that literally even your own thought process is is going through a frequency because it's being transmitted.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: Every single thought that you have is going through a transmission, either subconsciously or consciously into your brain, you know.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: And um, everything works on, you know, like a transmission of a movement.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: And you're gonna have frequencies because that I mean, I always say, you know, like when I talk to people that are really good worshippers, they're wired for for sound because they worship so well, you know.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's some people that are wired for like um, they're just strong, you know, their their mobility is just really strong, they're strong or how they're structured.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of how God wired them, you know.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: And he connected the wires and he ignited them in certain areas of their, you know, being and that's how that's why they're like you're a fast runner, you have speed, you have probably endurance, you have strength.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um and so you know, those are the the ways that you know I think God literally wired our DNA together.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, look, if you think about the way our DNA is wired, we are wired, you know.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_02: We are, we're ever every single one of us is an individual, right?
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: And uh we we are unique.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: We're we each have a fingerprint, and that fingerprint is is unique because that's the way he that's the way he designed us.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_02: But at the same point, if you look at the way, if you can you understand how the how he did make us, um, which you know who who knows, right?
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_02: But at the same point, what with what we do have, if you now that we're understanding the human body, you give it the right nutrients, and then it starts doing what it's what how he designed it.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: He put all the nutrients on this earth for us, right?
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's why we created Exodus.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, okay, let's get the the right nutrients, and then man, when you get the right nutrients in the body, it's fascinating to see the the improvements and how how your body starts doing what God you know designed our bodies to do.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I think sometimes we we live we we kind of are precarious, and so we live destructive lives.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: We do things that we shouldn't do, like like you said, you know, drinking and and you know, backing up back in our youth without partying and doing all the crazy wild stuff, and we're eating a bunch of garbage, and you know, we're just not doing it.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I think as a as we get older, I know for myself, like I tried to be a little bit more aware about like what I'm putting into my body opposed to what I used to put into my body, but we're supposed to be doing that anyway because our body is a temple, you know, and it's supposed to be a purification.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_00: What we eat, yeah.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, we literally I'm a big old biscuit.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, and I used to love food and I used to love sugar, and you know, I end up what one of my crazy the things where I've learned so much this last couple of years.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry about that, no, you're you're all right.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: No mark.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry about that.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: No problem.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_02: So it's just anyway, it's just just fascinating how how God designed um this this temple of ours.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_02: And if we take care of it right, it it will it will do what uh what you know he designed it to do.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what he's with my my health journey, that's where I was headed, was was uh I ended up getting cancer.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um so I have stage three melanoma that I'm battling right now.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_02: But with the fascinating thing for me is to learn about that and then okay, now how does that work?
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_02: How does how does cancer work?
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_02: And uh um it's so fascinating to me.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, how uh cancer specifically is interesting.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody's got it somebody that they know that either has cancer or has died from cancer, and cancer is just prevalent like throughout the world, and it's just like wow, and so I started researching it, and it's like, oh my gosh, it's so complex.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: There's hundreds of different types of cancers.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_02: And then I learned that the human body is so unique, too, that it if you and I had the exact same cancer, the reason we got it is different, yeah.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_02: And since our body is the what we've done to our bodies up to the point where we are now is different, like how I've lived my life and the environment I was in is different than yours.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_02: And so the reason why we have it and how we get rid of it is different.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like you don't you don't treat the exact same cancer with the exact same thing for the same for different people.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_02: So it's literally needs to be individualized of how to get people um healthy.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so it's just things that I didn't have any clue about that's been really, really fun for me to understand.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, oh my gosh, how does it how does it get how does it get created in the first place?
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_02: And then you know, you learn that cancer, everybody has cancer in their body, it's just a matter of yours isn't collecting.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and and so if you can you get your immune system to do what it's supposed to do, which is to get rid of the the bad cells in the body, like that molecular hydrogen I was telling you about earlier.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_02: If it gets rid of the bad stuff, and uh then then you know that's what we want, right?
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: We want to get rid of the bad stuff and not let it collect in the in a specific area and then not replicate and to others.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, it's just been fun how God is teaching me these this skill sets of of health.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, oh my gosh, did I want, you know, this this has uh been probably the hardest year.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: This last year was the hardest year of my life because of everything that I went through.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_02: I went through, I mean, I used to have real hair, right?
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: Now I've got white hair, and you know, it's it's like I'm just a hundred percent of a different person than I was uh a year ago.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_02: But uh I he he did this for a reason.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: And if you want to want a five-minute little testimonial story of God's goodness, is this is he gave me cancer to save my life.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm I don't that's not a joke because um I had a heart condition called bradycardia, and I've had it since uh I was uh in my 20s, and it's just a slow beating heart, and that slow beating heart I've lived with for decades.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_02: But back when I was young, they said you can continue to live the way you're living, or you can get a pacemaker.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I was in my 20s.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, pace pacemaker, that's for old people, right?
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_02: Come on, give me a break.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I just lived the way I had lived, and I just had a heart that beat slow.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_02: And then, but as I aged, it got worse and worse, and I didn't realize it.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I about a year ago, I went to see a doctor, and he's like, Oh my gosh, your heart is way too low.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, he made me go through the whole cardiologist thing.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_02: I did all the the tests, and and uh it was incredible that oh my gosh, my heart is uh really unique.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, You need a pacemaker.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, pacemaker, I don't want a pacemaker, that's roll people, yeah.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_02: So I was stubborn and I said no.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I thought I'm gonna figure out a way to get my heart working the way it's supposed to.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I I went down this holistic program and and tried to find all the different ways I could get my heart to to heal.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I went through you know time and effort, and and uh then guess what?
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_02: Boom, I get cancer.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, hmm, well, this sucks.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so I started learning about cancer and uh going through through that process.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um I went one of the things I had to do was get my teeth fixed because I had to get rid of the the metals in my teeth, and uh started learning about root canals and how bad those are for your for your teeth, and things I didn't know, but now I do.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I got rid of all of those.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: But in order to get rid of those, I had went to the holistic dentist, and the dentist was like, We can't do the operation on your teeth because your heart's too slow.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_02: And uh like, well, what do you mean?
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, so I had to go see a cardiologist.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_02: So I go see another cardiologist.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_02: Guess what that cardiologist tells me to do?
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_02: You need a pacemaker.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, pacemaker, yeah.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: No, I don't like that either.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_02: Crap, I don't want a pacemaker, right?
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_02: So I I had to sign my life away, and uh they did my they did my mouth, but then I go see my cardiologist or my oncologist, the cancer doctor, and they said, We may have to do surgery on your tumors.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, Oh, that sucks.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, and so but he said, We can't do surgery on your tumors because your heart's too slow.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh my gosh, this is a third cardiologist who tells me that uh so he made me go see my oncologist, maybe go see a third cardiologist, and that third cardiologist says, Guess what, Rob?
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_02: You need a pacemaker.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I finally go to get my pacemaker.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_02: So I guess this story is a little longer than the five minutes.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you're okay.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's crazy.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh a couple weeks before my pacemaker surgery, I just about passed out on the couch, like literally just doing nothing, and I almost passed out.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_02: So my heart was failing, and uh I ended up on the way to the hospital I was driving, almost passed out on the drive there.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_02: So my my heart was just not operating.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_02: I got into the hospital and they took my my pulse and it was in 27 beats per minute.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_02: And they're just like, Holy smokes, how are you even walking around?
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I don't know.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_02: And there's the nurses were freaking out.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: They was like, I literally almost put you down on the ground and started pumping your chest.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_02: She goes, That's how scared I was it was for you for you.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_02: And uh they you know ended up going into the operation uh operating room to get my pacemaker done, and my heart fails a hundred percent.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_02: So my heart had been failing for this last year, and it got to the point where I've almost passed out sitting on the couch, and if I uh and it finally failed, but guess where I was when it failed?
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_02: I was literally on the operating table with heart specialists there, and if I was anywhere else in the world, I would have died because there's if my heart failed, and they you there was no pumping it to get it back, and there's no electrical charge to get it back, my heart had failed.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_02: So the only way that they could save me was by having the electrical charge inside my body that pumped my heart.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_02: So I 100% believe that God said, Okay, Rob, you're you're so stubborn, you you've taught you've told two different cardiologists for the last year that you're not gonna get this thing that I told you, you know, I've been telling your helpers, your helpers are telling you to get uh a pacemaker, and I was too stubborn.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_02: And so he's like, Okay, we're gonna do it this route.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_02: So only because I would have never gotten my pacemaker if I would not have gotten cancer.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and guess what?
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_02: If I wouldn't have had the cancer, I would be out on the beach somewhere with my family, and my heart would have failed, and I'd I'd be done.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_02: I'd be and so I know God has a plan for my life because He orchestrated that whole thing.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm I'm doing really, really well with my cancer.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm winning the battle, I'm understanding.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: How to help other people win that battle?
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_02: Because it's just absolutely fascinating how you can reverse what things that happen in the body.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, so I'm I'm digging in and I'm helping people, and I'm almost like, oh my gosh, this is why he put me on this earth is to help people.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_02: And he he I have a huge mission now, so I am so on fire to help people because it's like I I I used to be living for me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_02: And now I'm not living for me, me, me, me anymore.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm living for him, and I'm living for him because I want to help.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_02: He's he taught me all these things, and it's not for me to help me, it's for me to help other people.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm I've writing this book called The Light Code, and the light code's going to talk about these four pillars of things of health that he's taught me about.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_02: He's taught me about this light therapy and how amazing the light therapy is.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's helped me with my lymphedema a lot in my cancer journey.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_02: And you look at the frequencies and how the frequencies help the light actually do what it's supposed to do inside the body, and then you look at the hydrogen and the nutrients that we talked about and how that fuels the body.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's the third pillar.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_02: And then the fourth pillar, which is so incredibly important, is the mind-body-spirit connection.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_02: He designed our minds so incredibly powerful that you can control your mind, can control your body physically and literally can control your body and the power of prayer, right?
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: The power of prayer is so cool.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_02: You can literally have a physical effect on an external object through prayer.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_02: I had had no idea that this you can that that's possible, but through this process, I've learned that that is possible.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I just have this huge desire.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_02: Every single product that we sell, we have a prayer card that goes with it because we want people to use say that, say this prayer out loud, want you to declare it with your mouth.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_02: God tells us there's power in the tongue, and uh, and so you you use it, you declare it over your body, and your mind is uh read your eyes are reading it, your ears are hearing yourself saying it, and uh you're declaring it.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_02: So you're saying the prayer, you're declaring the health over your body, and um, and you're reading a Bible verse, and so the comment, you know, he could heal you in an instant, right?
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_02: If you just ask.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_02: So we want you to ask, and then we want you to to heal, um, you know, using your mind, body, and spirit in all in connection.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_02: So um that's that's what's uh I I believe he has me here on this earth to do.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_02: So it took it.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_02: It took you know, me getting cancer for me to be really serious about it, say, oh my gosh, he really, he really wants me to to teach people all of these things because uh it's going to help people.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's that's my mission.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm here to I'm here to serve and help help people uh understand the amazing gospel, um, but uh yeah, through their health, because people you you can't you can't make a difference in this world if you're sitting on the couch sick.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_02: If you're sitting on the couch sick, you're not gonna make a difference.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: So that that's uh that's uh why I believe I'm here.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's really awesome.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_00: I mean that that's that's a great way to look at it too.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: I think that um a lot of people don't don't receive healing because they don't ask for it and they don't go after it, and they don't they don't get into God's life.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: You don't believe that he can but be like the woman with with blood, yeah, right?
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_02: Through her faith, right?
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_02: Your faith healed you, you know, that's what he told her.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like your faith has made you whole.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes, exactly.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that because we think about um when when I coach people, I I I tell people like um what you say matters, what you do matters, what you eat matters, what you think.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: It all matters.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: Everything matters, you know.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_00: And um you could there's always and and then I I also teach people that there's always a solution to the problem.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's not always just like, oh well, it'll work itself out.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you have to go get the solution, you know.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like I love the illustration that's been used, um, you know, like the guy that's drowning in the flood, and you know, God sends him two boats in a helicopter, and the guy drowns and he gets to heaven.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, God, why'd you let me drown?
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_00: I sent you two boats in a helicopter.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: What more did you want?
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like get your pacemaker or whatever, you know.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's my life.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, literally, you just like that's exactly right.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh my gosh, he's he's just upstairs looking looking down at me going, oh my gosh, I gave you that cardiologist.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, I gave you that cardiomy.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like, when are you gonna listen, dummy?
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's exactly what I was thinking of when you were saying that.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh my gosh, he's that story right there.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_00: But we also, you know, he gave us the word too.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, the word is is active and it's alive, and a lot of people just have it sitting on their on their on their shelf getting dirty.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: And we're not opening it up, we're not diving into like Exodus.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: We're not we're not looking at the the researches of what kind of foods did they eat, what kind of foods didn't they eat, what should we be eating, what should we try to avoid?
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like we shouldn't even, I mean, as much as I love bacon, we shouldn't be eating bacon.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like those are things we shouldn't even be eating.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, what should we put in our body?
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_00: We should be putting in cinnamon and coriander and you know, the the bitter, um, the bitter uh lettuce that we don't want to eat yet.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I like the frankincense though.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_00: I I use frankincense um at my house a lot.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_00: I burn it and I I make body scrubs because it's really good for your skin.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's really good for your pores.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_00: So it's really good.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_00: I put it in my body butters and I put them in my candles because it's good to breathe.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: And when we're sick, I'll put it in a pot of water and I'll put some frankincense in there and just let it go evaporate to the air.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's really good.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, people just don't, I mean, and I didn't know until I researched it and found out, you know, I was like, I wonder what, you know, I know where they talk about frankincense in the Bible, and uh it was a gift also given to Jesus, you know, when he was born.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like those are one of the gifts that he was given.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I was like, there's gotta be some significant meaning behind it.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I I found out um what it does, what what it does for a person.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so I started getting it and using it.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I'm I'm I'm learning myself as well.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like you said, it's like if you don't know, you don't know.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, it's a journey.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_02: We're we're all on it, we're all on a journey, and and uh you know, I just want to help people you know shorten that that learning journey a little bit from their health perspective.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, hey, there I I've learned all of this, not because I wanted to or because I'm smart, just the God, like okay, dummy, you know, you know, do this, do this, do this.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I can literally see how he trained me my entire life to be the to be what I'm doing now.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_02: And so I I know about nutrition, right?
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_02: I know about frequencies, I know about light therapy, I know about hydrogen.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, these are the things that I didn't learn because I wanted to learn them.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_02: It's just things that he forced upon me or I, you know, forced upon myself or whatever, however you want to look at what happened.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_02: I it did happen, and I can see how he's orchestrated my life to be the person that I am today.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's like I I have no alternative motive.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't want to be rich, I don't want to make a ton of money.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_02: I used to, right?
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_02: I that's what my life was when I was living for me, was all about me.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_02: I want to I want to help people, and if I can build a large organization that brings in a lot of income, it's not because I want to bring a lot of income in, it's because I want to help a lot of people, right?
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_02: So if I the more income I can do, the more I can the better impact I can have, and the more people I can reach with this message, right?
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_02: I want to teach people nutrition, I want to teach people about light therapy and how amazing it is, and just getting back to the way God created this.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_02: I I try to tell people there's seven things that you really should do every single day, and they're free.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_02: And if you do, if you do them, then guess what?
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna start seeing those effects, and then they start uh you know amplifying when you do them together.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_02: So the first one is is I'll just be really fast.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_02: So this will be my last last seven things I'll I'll tell you is is water, right?
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_02: Getting enough water in the body in the body and and having uh hydration.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: This is my my chosen cup, yeah.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_02: But um, you know, we I'm about 200 pounds, so I need about a hundred ounces of water every day.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_02: So get your body weight.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_02: Get that because high we we most people are dehydrated and they don't know that they're dehydrated, yeah.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_02: And your mind doesn't function very well when you're dehydrated.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_02: So then the next three are super simple.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_02: You go outside in the morning, um and you get that first light, you get the sun on your body that you got that vitamin D that I started my my rabbit hole digging.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_02: What is vitamin D is so important to your health?
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_02: And then the first 45 minutes of the day, it's called blue light, so it's very healthy light.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't have the UV rays that it does later in the day, so it's very, very healthy for your skin.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so do that, but then take off your socks and shoes and get your feet on God's given earth.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's called grounding or or earthing, some people call it, but it literally discharges the negative energy in your body and recharges you with the with positive energy, and it's real.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_02: You can there's science behind it, and it's not not not a science fiction.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I can sell you a five thousand dollar mat if you want to put it in your office, and it does the exact same thing that God designed, and all it's 100% free.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_02: So go outside and get your socks and shoes off and put them on the ground and get some sun.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_02: So you're doing two of those at the same time, and then do breathing techniques.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_02: These breathing techniques you can spend seven minutes on, and it can add seven years to your life.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_02: So, why would you not do that?
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so that is uh there's a gentleman named Wim Hof, W-I-M-H-O-F-F, and he uh teaches you these breathing techniques that are simple to do, and they just flood your body with oxygen.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, your body thrives on oxygen and cancer and other things can't live with an oxygenated environment.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_02: So get oxygen inside this body.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's super important.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_02: So, anyway, though you do those three things while you're out there, you already had the water, which is the fourth.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you go inside and you have your breakfast and you get the right nutrition, right?
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_02: So, nutrients are really important.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_02: You have to have um the proper nutrients in in the body, um, and then movement, right?
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_02: We need to um move.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, the body is designed to move, and you kind of get off the couch, and you need to to get some um good movement while um while you're there.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_02: So there is um uh sixth, and then the the the last one I like.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh there's actually eight, but the seventh one is I think super important.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_02: I start my day with this is is gratitude and prayer.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_02: So you do you do your morning prayer and you thank him for what he's given us, and uh just having gratitude and being a glass half full person versus a glass half empty person can start your day off in an amazing way, and having gratitude is literally scientifically proven to be helpful.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_02: So get up in the morning and get start your day off right by having gratitude that he did put breath in your lungs today, and you have breath in your lungs, so he has a plan for your life.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_02: So start it that way, and there's those the seven things that are just super, super helpful.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_02: They're free.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_02: You can you know, have gratitude for free.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_02: You can you know, tip typically water is free.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_02: You should make sure it's filtered water, good, good uh, because there's a lot of you know, the tap water is horrible, unfortunately, these days, right?
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_02: Filter it's a good tap water, right?
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_02: Then you go outside, you get the sun, you breathe, do some breathing techniques, and you uh ground at the same time.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_02: You come in and you eat good nutrients in in the body, um, and then you you know you've already done your prayer, but then uh the last the eighth one to kind of cap it off is just sleep, right?
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_02: He designed our bodies to rest.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_02: So um you need to get good sleep, and so get rid of the blue lights before before a couple hours before um you know you go to bed and uh have a routine and you get good sleep, and man, your body's gonna start functioning so much better.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_02: So there you go.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_02: Those those are the the eight things I like to tell people to to do.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_00: I I taught a um a 60-day um basically like a 60-day challenge, like a workout type eating challenge.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_00: And one of the one of the steps, well, many of the steps were to um if if you can't go outside, open a window so you get fresh air, try to get into the sunlight, um, because sunlight, that vitamin D, well, it's vitamin D3, and then then your your liver and your kidneys actually break it down into vitamin Um D for you and and put in, you know, spread it out throughout your body that you need the nutrients.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then um to breathe in, you know, to do like four or five, you know, you breathe in, hold for four or five, like you know, then breathe out four or five, you know, just do that four, you know, a couple times a day.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's good to get that oxygen in your brain.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, blood the body with oxygen, it's amazing.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it's good stuff.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_00: And um, yeah, I I try to um when I do my challenges, I always try to incorporate that in.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_00: Always obviously, you know, also um prayer is always number one, and then um just starting your day just you know, breathing and and um you know getting that your body functioning with that oxygen.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes we're lethargic because we don't have enough oxygen in our body, you know.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_00: We're just ugh, you know, and I don't know if you know if you're ever sitting on the couch, you just feel lethargic and you start breathing, that it goes away.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_00: That that it goes away.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have that that heaviness because you're getting the oxygen your body actually needs for you to actually be able to function.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: Your brain starts that fog gets cleared out and you you know a little bit.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, but um in closing, will you do me a favor and just kind of tell our listeners um a little bit more about your website and um how they can get a hold of you and reach you?
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sounds good.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate it.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's a it's super simple, right?
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_02: We talked about Exodus, exodustrong.com is the website, so it's super simple.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, there's lots of resources up there to help you.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then I'm building a community called Biohackingville.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_02: And so in that community is going to be uh just a ton of free resources of health.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_02: So if you want to be learn more about integrative oncology, um there's gonna be a whole section in there because I've been you know been doing a deep dive on on that.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_02: But if you want to learn about red light therapy, there's a ton of information about red light therapy in there and what is the benefit.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_02: You want to learn about molecular hydrogen, there's tons of information about hydrogen and how it's helpful in the body.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_02: You want to learn about cold plunging, right?
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_02: So all the biohacking things, there's there's data there, and it's the easy way to communicate with me because I'm there often and and uh really trying to provide uh value to to people.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's actually a community that's just literally in the in the infancy.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_02: We're just getting it started.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_02: But that's how to get a hold of me is biohackingville and uh exodustrong.com.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_02: So biohackingville?
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'll make sure I write that.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_00: Good term.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um biohackingville.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_00: The village of biohackers.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's nice.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's exactly right.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_00: Creating a village.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_00: And and so, um, and then you said you're you're writing a book now about the about red light therapy, right?
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's called the light code, yeah.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_02: And it talks about those four pillars of health, right?
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_02: It talks about light and frequencies, because frequency medicine is real and amazing.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_02: Talks about fuel, which is the molecular hydrogen and the the biblical nutrients, and then the the four the faith um one, the mind, body, spirit connection.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_02: Those those four things are what God taught me.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, oh my gosh, if I can just uh relay that to people and make it easy for them to understand, it put it into four pillars so it's really easy to to to remember, and then you just like oh my gosh, uh when you start combining those therapies, um, it really makes a big difference.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_02: So one plus one is not just two, it's one plus one plus one equals ten.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um it's really a lot of fun.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_00: So, okay, so we know that you um you had you had your heart surgery and you are um facing cancer now, but how do you feel?
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_00: How do you feel all together?
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like you feel pretty good.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_00: Fantastic.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'm yeah, I'm running miles a day, and uh I it's like I've I really uh my cancer has shrunk 50% from where where it was, it's not spreading.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_02: So I've learned how to stop it from spreading.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_02: I learned how to to to get rid of it, and we're on in the process of doing that, and I'm exercising um a lot, and I just I feel fantastic, and I wanna I I know that he's helped me get here.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, okay, because I had he's got plans for me.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_02: I there's no way I can can pass away anytime soon because he's just like, I've almost died four times in my life, and he keeps saving me.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, why, Lord?
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, now I just like okay, I get it, I get it, I get it.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go do it.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_02: So now I'm here doing it finally.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, you said you wanted to be a runner, and I think God's letting you run your race, and this is how he's doing it.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_00: It just looks a little differently than what you thought.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's a little different than with than with my feet, that's for sure.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's got you going um in a different, different avenue.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm so thankful that you joined me today.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_00: I've learned a lot from you, and I was excited to have you on.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I love your website, I think it's great.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_00: I would I'm definitely gonna check out the patches.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what would you recommend?
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_00: So if someone were to go to your website like me for the first time, where would you want, where do you think someone should start?
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because like you look at all of this stuff and you're like, oh, where do I go first?
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_00: You know, can you share that with us?
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_02: Depends on what you're what you're struggling with, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: The nice thing about our patches is we have 14 different solutions, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So gotcha.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's probably something in there that can help help help you.
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  SPEAKER_02: The light therapies are are really um taking off.
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  SPEAKER_02: We have this mat that is an absolutely incredible.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's six feet long and uh a couple feet wide, and you can lay on this mat and it gets the entire body.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so and you start looking at what that does to the body, it goes it have near infrared and infrared, it goes deep inside the body and activates the mitochondria process inside the body, so it activates those stem cells and it gets your body working the way it's supposed to, and then guess what?
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  SPEAKER_02: Those aches and pains that you had they start healing because you're it's it's activating the what how God designed your body, so it's uh it's doing amazing, amazing things.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that would be you know the ultimate is get the mat because that's gonna help you with it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we include our frequency components with that mat.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you get a pain uh relief uh uh frequency solution with the mat.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're the only company in the world who combines the frequencies and the red light therapy in one, and then we even have a bundle that includes the Exodus product.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you can get the X, you know, internal nutrients that you need, the molecular hydrogen that you need, and you get the red light therapy, and you get the frequency therapy, all with one one bundle.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's the that's great.
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  SPEAKER_00: You get to put it all in a little package, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And make it easy, make it easy to find.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's really awesome.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, I'm definitely gonna be checking out more of more of your products and seeing um what I what I can try out and what I want to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: But um, as far as our listeners go, um, I have I have a couple of friends that have cancer, and I'm definitely gonna send this to them and have them watch it and have them, you know, check out some of your stuff and see, you know, what they think.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, like you said, there's all kinds of different you know things going on with the body, like the dementia, and you know, and it's nice that you can find something that kind of works the whole body.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not just okay, I'm gonna go get my I have an earache, I'm gonna go get my earache fixed or whatever, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, because that's where all those pharmaceuticals come in.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you need a pill for your ear, you need a pill for your sinus, you need a pill for, you know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they got a pill for everything.
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  SPEAKER_02: Unfortunately, I know very, very much what you mean.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I just uh I I don't like it when I guess let's help people get rid of those, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, when I got shingles, um, I actually got shingles in my eye, and I had three lesions, and they said that if I rub my eye or, you know, do anything with my eye, I could go blind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it was really bad.
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  SPEAKER_00: It started right in my face and it went across my face and into my hairline.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was really painful, very, very, very painful experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so when I was at the hospital, they sent me right over to see the optometrist, and he gave me five pills right up, five things right off the bat.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't take any of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did the cream, I did the cream because I needed the itching and the uncut, you know that, but I didn't take any of the other stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I had to go see him every day for five days.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um I told him, I said, I can't take all them pills.
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  SPEAKER_00: They make they made me sick at my stomach, you know, when I try to take them, it was too much.
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  SPEAKER_00: My body doesn't like that kind of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was like it it maybe helped me here, but it was messy, it made me feel horrible everywhere else.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I said, I just it's making me sick, I can't take it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so effects are amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he had me just stick to the cream and it worked.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you know, I just prayed and prayed and prayed, and I didn't rub my eyes really good.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Don't touch your eye, don't touch your eye, you're gonna be blind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Praise the Lord.
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  SPEAKER_00: Within five days, um, the shingles were gone, and I didn't have no scarring, I had nothing, nothing, you know, and I was so thankful, and I was like, Oh my gosh, and now they're like they're I was 48 when that happened, and like you have to get your shingle shot when you're 50.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I've already had it, I don't need any.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's right, that's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Good for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, I thought I'd share that meeting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was great meeting you too.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I will get I will put your information in the show notes for our listeners to be able to um contact you, and I will share that information with uh with with everyone, you know, in my social media and um so they know how to get in touch with you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And for all of our listeners that are listening, I appreciate you all being here today.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, I hope that you gained a lot of knowledge and you learned a lot about um uh red light therapy and uh quantum energy and um all of the above, all of everything with Exodus strong.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's a great, great website to go through, especially um stay focused in on faith, body, on your faith mindset, your mind, body, and your spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um stay connected with God.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's my encouragement for the day.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's number one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Always stay, you know, at the top, and I think God's the one that's at the top.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um, I appreciate everyone for being here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Rob, Renee, for being here, and thank you for your message.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, God bless you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm glad to see that you're feeling good and you look good.
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  SPEAKER_00: So thank you to all my listeners.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope you all have a great day, and I will be talking to y'all soon.
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  SPEAKER_00: Take care.
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  SPEAKER_00: God bless.
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  SPEAKER_00: God bless.