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Wife, 29 Shot Dead Prepping Garage Sale, Was it a Hit? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: A gorgeous young wife, just twenty nine, shot dead while
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Speaker 2: she's just outside her home preparing for a garage sell.
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Speaker 2: No rape, no sex, assault, no theft, So what could possibly.
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Speaker 1: Be the motive? Was it a hit? I'm Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 3: Gunned down in her own driveway? Who killed Elizabeth Barrazza?
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Speaker 2: Joining me Elizabeth's parents and her widow trying to make
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Speaker 2: sense of a case that seemingly has stumped police.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, very often we think, oh.
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Speaker 2: Well, the police aren't trying. They screwed up the scene,
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Speaker 2: they fill in the blank. But this case is highly,
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Speaker 2: highly unusual. I know this is going to pain pain
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Speaker 2: the mom and dad, the widow to hear what we
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Speaker 2: are going to play, but I want all of our
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Speaker 2: viewers and all of our listeners to hear this. Help
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Speaker 2: us make sense of who murdered this gorgeous young wife. Listen,
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Speaker 2: I hope your daughter, Howard, is she a lie?
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Speaker 1: Thank you?
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Speaker 4: As you said, le's have fathered.
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Speaker 5: If you like you's a lie.
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Speaker 2: You are hearing bodycam sound bodycam well, police have were
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Speaker 2: on their bodies and you were hearing Bob and Rosemary
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Speaker 2: Nellie as they are learning about their daughters shooting, joining
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Speaker 2: me not only her widow, but her parents. Bob and Rosemary,
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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: And in case it seemingly has stumped law enforcement, I
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Speaker 2: can't help but think this was anything other than a hit.
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Speaker 2: But we are hearing you in the background. We are
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Speaker 2: hearing you, Bob speaking out. Tell us, Bob and Rosemary,
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Speaker 2: what happened that day.
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Speaker 6: We had been alerted.
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Speaker 5: By her alarm company that her alarm was going off
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Speaker 5: and they've not been able to reach her. We were
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Speaker 5: sort of like a second notification and we tried to
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Speaker 5: call her and we didn't get her, and my wife, Rosemary, said,
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Speaker 5: O get dressed, were gone, and we were in the car,
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Speaker 5: probably with us three or four minutes and drove over
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Speaker 5: to her home. That's usually about a fourteen minute drive.
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Speaker 5: I think we made it in like ten or twelve.
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Speaker 5: And when we got there there was a lot of
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Speaker 5: police and fire and ambulances at the front of our subdivision.
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Speaker 5: We thought, oh great, this is not Les's house, this
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Speaker 5: is her subdivision. Maybe something happened.
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Speaker 6: In the neighborhood.
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Speaker 7: And then an ems worker directed.
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Speaker 5: Us back to the house, and that's when we saw
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Speaker 5: the crime scene cape surrounding it. We got out and
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Speaker 5: started trying to find out what it happened.
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Speaker 2: None of it is making any sense to me, Rosemary
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Speaker 2: with me, Mom and dad, Bob and Rosemary Nelly along
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Speaker 2: with her widow, Sergio.
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Speaker 1: Rosemary. So often I get the same thing.
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Speaker 2: I get a notice that the home alarm has been tripped,
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Speaker 2: and I typically think, oh, my fill in the blank,
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Speaker 2: my mother, who lives with us at ninety two years old,
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Speaker 2: set it off. The dog, the cat, this that that,
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Speaker 2: that's what you immediately think, Rosemary Nelly, What went through
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Speaker 2: your mind when you guys got the notification the alarm
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Speaker 2: in your daughter's house have been tripped?
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Speaker 8: Well, we got the alert first on the phone, which
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Speaker 8: is just a test, and it, you know, showed that
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Speaker 8: her alarm had been triggered. So immediately I called her
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Speaker 8: number and she did not answer, and that that did
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Speaker 8: alarm me. And she didn't answer, I was thinking, okay,
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Speaker 8: maybe she would could you know, accidentally set the alarm off?
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Speaker 8: And then when I found that she wasn't awer in
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Speaker 8: the phone that said, I immediately.
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Speaker 1: Got very concerned and.
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Speaker 8: I you know, you're just you're hoping that, okay, maybe
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Speaker 8: something happened to a na or something, and you know,
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Speaker 8: I don't know what it didn't, and it still doesn't
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Speaker 8: make sense. I did, you know, the only we can
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Speaker 8: only just go over there and find out which because
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Speaker 8: she was not answering her phone, and that said the
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Speaker 8: alarm company actually did call us, And you know, we
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Speaker 8: said it well, I said that she didn't pick up
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Speaker 8: her phone, and they asked if they called police, and
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Speaker 8: I said yes, because she would always infer her home
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Speaker 8: in that kind of situation, and I know she would,
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Speaker 8: so yeah, we just headed over.
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Speaker 1: This is what happened. Listen.
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Speaker 9: Right at seven am, both Sergio Barazza and Elizabeth's parents
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Speaker 9: receive the notification that the house alarm has been tripped
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Speaker 9: and Elizabeth is an answering. Security team calls Bob and
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Speaker 9: Rosemary Nelly arrive at the home minutes before Sergio Brazza
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Speaker 9: and learn Harris County constables trip the alarm because their
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Speaker 9: daughter had been shocked.
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Speaker 1: Oh my stars.
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Speaker 2: Video the suspect's car driving by.
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Speaker 1: You can hear Elizabeth say good morning.
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Speaker 2: Then there's a few seconds of unintelligible conversation you hear gunshots,
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Speaker 2: and you hear Elizabeth screaming. Andy Kahn joining me, Director
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Speaker 2: Victim Services and Advocacy Crime Starvers Houston. Andy, thank you
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Speaker 2: for being with us. I've played this over and over
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Speaker 2: and over in my mind, and I don't like playing
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Speaker 2: that sound because I know that is precisely when Elizabeth
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Speaker 2: Liz loses her life right there.
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Speaker 1: But what do we learn, Andy?
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Speaker 2: My job is to try to seek justice and give
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Speaker 2: Elizabeth all I can give for now, and that is justice.
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Speaker 1: What do you hear? What does that tell you? Andy?
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Speaker 1: You and I have gone over a million murder cases way.
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Speaker 7: In the only thing that I can quate. What happened
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Speaker 7: to Liz Barraza was like watching a scene from The
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Speaker 7: Sopranos where you have somebody that would drive up, get
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Speaker 7: out of the car, bang bang bang bang bang, run
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Speaker 7: back in and hit. I mean, it's an obvious hit.
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Speaker 7: Like you said earlier, she's setting up for a garage sale,
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Speaker 7: not even the false pretenses of trying to take an item,
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Speaker 7: pretending that it was a robbery, and come back and
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Speaker 7: make sure that Liz is dead. In my long career,
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Speaker 7: this is one of the most puzzling and frustrating cases
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Speaker 7: because you have just little to go on other than
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Speaker 7: a make of a car and the fact that this
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Speaker 7: happened about six forty five in the morning. So from
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Speaker 7: and where I sit, I'm wondering, how did this person
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Speaker 7: know that Liz was setting up for a garage sale.
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Speaker 7: It wasn't like it was publicized. You had to know
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Speaker 7: at that exact moment in time that Liz was going
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Speaker 7: to be out there in order for you to commit
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Speaker 7: this cold blooded murder of Liz. So I've gotten to
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Speaker 7: know you know, Bob Rosemary Sergio over the last five years,
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Speaker 7: and it's one of the most frustrating cases that I've
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Speaker 7: ever been personally involved with.
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Speaker 2: Guys, we are also showing you a neighbor's surveillance video.
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Speaker 1: Let's play it from the top.
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Speaker 2: This is critical and I'm surprised this can't be enhanced
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Speaker 2: a little bit more.
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Speaker 1: You see the shooter walk up, he walks up to her.
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Speaker 2: They have a brief brief like hello, hello, and then
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Speaker 2: the shooting goes down and.
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Speaker 1: The purp leaves.
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Speaker 2: You know, another thing I'm trying to determine, Andy Kahn
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Speaker 2: joining us to write to victim services.
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Speaker 1: Are we sure the perp is a man.
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Speaker 5: No, we're not.
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Speaker 7: And that's another confusing part. We don't know if it's
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Speaker 7: male or female, whether this person was wearing a disguise
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Speaker 7: or not, so that's another frustrating factor in this. But
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Speaker 7: you can see by the video how deliberate this was,
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Speaker 7: and the fact that this person is standing over Liz
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Speaker 7: while she's shot on the ground to ensure that she
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Speaker 7: is dead must send out chills to everyone. And I
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Speaker 7: know we've done everything that we possibly can to get
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Speaker 7: this out to the public, and I want to thank
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Speaker 7: you personally, Nancy for putting this out to a broader audience,
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Speaker 7: because right now, grief is intensified when justice is lacking,
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Speaker 7: and sadly, justice is lacking for Bob, Rosemary surgery over
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Speaker 7: legion of friends and we're I'm not going to quit
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Speaker 7: until we get this case selved.
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Speaker 6: But it's maddening.
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Speaker 1: Rob and Nelly joining me.
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Speaker 2: This is Liz Bras's dad, along with her mom, Rosemary,
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Speaker 2: and then husband Sergio.
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Speaker 1: To you, Bob, it looks to me like a woman.
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Speaker 5: I've watched this footage so many times, and over the
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Speaker 5: course of five and a half years, I've come to
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Speaker 5: both conclusions male and female it's just it's so frustrating
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Speaker 5: not being able to tell more from that video.
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Speaker 2: Well, it seems that the clothing is somewhat flowing.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what, let me go to Sergio. I
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Speaker 1: didn't mean to keep you waiting, Sergio.
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Speaker 2: With me is not only are not only Bob and
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Speaker 2: Roseberry Nelly. This is something very rare where the female victims'
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Speaker 2: parents join with the then husband searching for justice. Sergio,
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Speaker 2: tell us what happened that morning to your recollect.
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Speaker 4: Well, that morning just started off by Liz and I
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Speaker 4: just starting our day normally. She left early that morning
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Speaker 4: to go get coffee, return back to the home, we
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Speaker 4: started preparing for the garage sale. I helped her with
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Speaker 4: a few big items. I was even a little bit
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Speaker 4: late for work to make sure I could help her
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Speaker 4: with everything I could.
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Speaker 1: Where do you work?
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Speaker 4: I was a contractor at the time, a hardwood flooring contractor,
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Speaker 4: so I would meet my employees at different locations and
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Speaker 4: just pick them up there and we'd go to work.
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Speaker 4: So I was heading to when I left her. I
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Speaker 4: just headed to the nearest construction shop nearby, and I
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Speaker 4: was there when I got the notification, and it just
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Speaker 4: it was kind of crazy. I was like, what's going
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Speaker 4: on that I had just left? I thought maybe an
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Speaker 4: accident happened in front of the house. Maybe Liz was
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Speaker 4: trying to help, because she's just that kind of person
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Speaker 4: who immediately would just try to do the right thing
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Speaker 4: and do good stuff. So I thought she was just
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Speaker 4: busy trying to be helpful. And then I saw a
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Speaker 4: police officer cross the camera and he I tried to
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Speaker 4: ask them for information, and they told me to come
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Speaker 4: to the home. Something had happened to my wife and
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Speaker 4: I needed to be there. I tried to get information,
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Speaker 4: but I was just told to make it to the home.
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Speaker 4: And when I made it to the home, I could
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Speaker 4: see that there was blood in the driveway, and I
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Speaker 4: was just in complete shock because I was hoping that
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Speaker 4: wasn't Liz's blood.
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Speaker 3: Surveillance video captures the moment twenty nine year old Elizabeth
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Speaker 3: Burraza is shot four times outside of her home. Happened
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Speaker 3: to Liz?
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Speaker 2: Are we any closer to figuring out who murdered this
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Speaker 2: young woman?
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Speaker 1: She's in the prime of her life.
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Speaker 2: Why why does she end up deead just outside her
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Speaker 2: own garage? You know? One thing I noticed, if I
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Speaker 2: could see the photo of them dressed up in Renaissance outfits.
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Speaker 1: These two seemingly meant for each other.
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Speaker 2: They say that they were both attracted to all things nerdy,
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Speaker 2: and that includes dressing up in different outfits always matching. Okay,
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Speaker 2: there's one a Star Wars outfit. They did so much together.
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Speaker 2: To Sergio Baraza, this is Liz's now widow.
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Speaker 1: Sergio, tell me about your relationship with her.
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Speaker 4: To me, it was a storybook relationship. We had the
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Speaker 4: most amazing time together. We met in college and immediately
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Speaker 4: we're attracted to one another. We started off as friends
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Speaker 4: and over time just became a couple and just started
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Speaker 4: to do so much together. We did charity work together,
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Speaker 4: We did a whole bunch of nerdy like comic con
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Speaker 4: stuff together. We did all the parks in Florida and
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Speaker 4: travel together. It was just the most amazing time and
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Speaker 4: some of the best moments of my life have been
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Speaker 4: with her. And when this happened, it completely shattered that
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Speaker 4: life I had with her. It was just out of
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Speaker 4: the blue. This happened one night, yere watching Netflix and
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Speaker 4: movies with your spouse. The next day you're at a hospital.
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Speaker 4: It's just something out of an alternate universe that I
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Speaker 4: feel like I was thrown into.
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Speaker 1: Sergio. How long had you been married?
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Speaker 4: We'd been married for we were about to hit our
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Speaker 4: five year anniversary, but we had been together for ten
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Speaker 4: years and it was just amazing to be with her.
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Speaker 2: Sergio Brazza, this is Lizz's husband. You stated that you
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Speaker 2: were going to You're in wood flooring and you were
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Speaker 2: a contractor going to meet who and where?
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Speaker 4: My employees that I worked with at a construction shop nearby.
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Speaker 1: They were open at seven in the morning.
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Speaker 4: Yes, it was like a Lows, so they open at
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Speaker 4: six am or so.
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Speaker 2: And I do not want to be blunt at all, Sergio,
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Speaker 2: but do your employees confirm that meeting?
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Speaker 5: Yes?
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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, Sergio, whether we like it or not,
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Speaker 2: the first person that police look at is the husband.
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Speaker 1: Why.
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Speaker 2: It's not about you. It's nothing personal to you. It's statistically.
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Speaker 2: So the more quickly you can answer what the police
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Speaker 2: last want to know, the more quickly they will move on,
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Speaker 2: hopefully to another suspect.
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Speaker 1: So please forgive me for seeming Kurt. Okay, but I
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Speaker 1: like police.
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Speaker 4: I completely understand.
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Speaker 2: I want to find out who did this to Liz Rosemary.
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Speaker 2: Is this your only child, or does Liz have siblings.
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Speaker 8: She has one brother who is a little bit older,
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Speaker 8: a few years.
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Speaker 1: Older than So this is your only girl, correct.
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Speaker 6: Yes, that is correct.
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Speaker 2: I have one girl, one baby girl, and my whole
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Speaker 2: world rises, my son rises and sets in that little girl.
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Speaker 2: Let me tell you, Okay, let me understand something, curly peel,
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Speaker 2: let me ask you. Kp RC two, tell me what
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Speaker 2: you've learned about that morning.
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Speaker 10: Well, based on conversations I've had with Liza's parents and investigators,
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Speaker 10: it seemed.
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Speaker 1: Like a normal morning.
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Speaker 10: She went out, she had Starbucks, she was getting ready
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Speaker 10: for that girl sale, and she was doing that garage
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Speaker 10: sale to get a little bit of extra pocket money
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Speaker 10: because she and Sergio are planning on celebrating their anniversary.
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Speaker 10: They're planning a trip to Florida. So this is something
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Speaker 10: that she would do just to get a little extra
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Speaker 10: pocket money.
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Speaker 6: Nothing seemed unusual.
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Speaker 10: But after that shooting, news outlets immediately released that surveillance
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Speaker 10: video hoping to find out who that shooter may be,
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Speaker 10: if there was any type of recognization from that video,
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Speaker 10: but no one seemed to come forward with a description
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Speaker 10: of that shooter.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now, Sergeant Michael Ritchie Harris County homicide investigator,
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Speaker 2: the lead investigator, and Liz's murder sergeant. Thank you so
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Speaker 2: much for being with us. I know you've looked at
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Speaker 2: this video a million times. It looks to me like
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Speaker 2: the shooter is actually wearing some type of flowing attire.
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Speaker 2: Do you think it's a woman?
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Speaker 11: When I initially saw the video, I did think it
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Speaker 11: was a woman, But then, of course, looking at the
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Speaker 11: video numerous times again and again, I could see that
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Speaker 11: it could possibly be a man and just trying to
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Speaker 11: disguise their identity and disguise their build. As you can tell,
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Speaker 11: they wearing some type of boots, they're wearing a coat,
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Speaker 11: it's possibly a wig that they're wearing, or it could
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Speaker 11: be real hair. So in all of the interviews and
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Speaker 11: press conferences I've done in the past, I've never confirmed
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Speaker 11: or never chose or decided whether it's.
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Speaker 6: Male or female because it could.
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Speaker 11: Be either or just reiterating when I initially saw the
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Speaker 11: video for the first time that morning, I did think
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Speaker 11: it was a woman. But again I've always stated too,
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Speaker 11: with how long this case is going on and how
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Speaker 11: many difference curveballs I've been thrown, it could definitely be
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Speaker 11: a man just as easy as a woman.
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Speaker 2: Back to Andy conn joining us, who has handled so
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Speaker 2: many homicide cases, He's joining us out of Houston. I'm
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Speaker 2: sure you recall the case of Marlene Warren. A clown
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Speaker 2: came to her door. A woman dressed as a clown
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Speaker 2: comes to her door with the carnations and balloons and
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Speaker 2: shoots her dad in front of her son. As it
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Speaker 2: turns out, it was Sheila Keene Warren, the husband's lover,
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Speaker 2: dressed as a clown. Now I'm thinking about what Sergeant
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Speaker 2: Ritchie is saying, and this is not casting doubt on Sergio.
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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is what you mentioned earlier, Andy, who
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Speaker 2: knew who knew that she was having a.
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Speaker 7: Yard's health You know, Nancy, You're exactly correct. I mean,
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Speaker 7: that's why everyone is only the assumption this was a
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Speaker 7: direct hit. Obviously, this isn't random. You're not driving around
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Speaker 7: a neighborhood at six forty five in the morning and
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Speaker 7: all of a sudden you see somebody setting up for
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Speaker 7: a garage sale and you're going to decide, I'm going
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Speaker 7: to park it out and shoot somebody and kill them
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Speaker 7: without taking anything. That's what is so frustrating about this
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Speaker 7: and that's what I like, I said. My initial thought
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Speaker 7: was this is like right out of the Sopranos right here.
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Speaker 5: So we're going on.
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Speaker 7: Five plus years right now. Crime Stoppers, along with Bob
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Speaker 7: Rosemary and Sergio, we have enhanced this reward now several times.
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Speaker 7: Right now we're offering in up to a fifty thousand
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Speaker 7: dollars reason up to five zero zero zero zero. I'm
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Speaker 7: giving you fifty thousand reasons to let us know who
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Speaker 7: this person is. And we know somebody out there knows something.
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Speaker 7: The public is our best eyes and ears out there.
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Speaker 7: You cannot tell me that this was just a singular,
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Speaker 7: random app of somebody shooting her. So we're asking the
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Speaker 7: public to step forward, contact crime Stoppers, and you can
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Speaker 7: be eligible for an up to fifty thousand dollars reward.
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Speaker 3: A suspects vehicle caught on tape surveillan shows the shooter's
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Speaker 3: truck right before and after the murder.
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Speaker 2: We're going to go to Sergeant Michael Ritchie, joining US
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Speaker 2: Harris County Homicide lead investigator in Liz's case.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about that vehicle, what make and model.
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Speaker 11: Well, one of the known facts of this case, which
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Speaker 11: are very few, is the vehicle that was used. Again,
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Speaker 11: watching several videos that we got from several different houses
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Speaker 11: in the neighborhood, we were able to determine that the
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Speaker 11: suspect used a Nissan Frontier, a black four door truck
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Speaker 11: and the model was a Pro four X. We believe
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Speaker 11: it was black, possibly dark blue, but most likely black,
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Speaker 11: and again we have.
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Speaker 6: Video of it.
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Speaker 11: We were able to speak to a witness that confirmed
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Speaker 11: it was that type of vehicle. And as you're looking
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Speaker 11: at that picture there there's a decal that goes near
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Speaker 11: the rear of the vehicle, near that tail light along
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Speaker 11: the bed of the truck that will say Pro four X.
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Speaker 11: That's kind of like a green and white color. And
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Speaker 11: during our I guess investigation and watching several clips of
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Speaker 11: different videos, we were able to determine that it was
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Speaker 11: that type of truck and see the decal outline and
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Speaker 11: know that it was that. I also had a Nissan
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Speaker 11: salesman look at the video and he was able to
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Speaker 11: confirm that he thought it was a Pro foro X
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Speaker 11: or Desert. He mentioned that it looked like a full
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Speaker 11: wheel drive. It had kind of some of the bells
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Speaker 11: of whistles on it, such as GPS and the running
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Speaker 11: lights and it looked like a four x four. So
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Speaker 11: he was able to educate me a little bit better
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Speaker 11: on this vehicle. And so again we believe it was
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Speaker 11: a black four door Nissan Frontier Pro four X and
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Speaker 11: I believe the years we were looking for was probably
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Speaker 11: a twenty twelve at the oldest two of twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about what we just heard.
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Speaker 2: Straight out to Andy Conn joining us and everybody jumped in.
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Speaker 1: If you know anything about.
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Speaker 2: Trucks, which I assume everybody does, Andy Conn, there is
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Speaker 2: a difference in the way the truck looks.
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Speaker 1: If it's a four wheel drive, the.
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Speaker 2: Truck actually looks differently and it sits, it sits differently
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Speaker 2: than a.
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Speaker 1: Non four wheel drive.
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Speaker 2: If you got a four wheel the truck looks bigger
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Speaker 2: just because of the positioning. So what I don't get
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Speaker 2: and maybe this was done, and sergeant jump in and
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Speaker 2: tell me what happened. There are ways I've done it
24:10
Speaker 2: and I've seen it done.
24:12
Speaker 1: To go through vehicle registration.
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Speaker 2: To find out how many of those are sold, how
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Speaker 2: many are of those are in the system in that.
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Speaker 1: Area at that time.
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Speaker 2: You do it through insurance, you do it in all
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Speaker 2: sorts of manners. But what's that done here? Because that's
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Speaker 2: pretty specific. A black Nissan Frontier four door Pro four X.
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Speaker 1: It's four wheel drive.
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Speaker 2: Because look, there's so many things to distinguish it. You
24:47
Speaker 2: got a four wheel on a truck, you got four
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Speaker 2: wheel drive on a truck. You've got even the years
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Speaker 2: somewhere between twelve and nineteen helped me out.
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Speaker 1: Andy.
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Speaker 7: Hey, let me ask Sergeant Richie. I mean, I'm assuming
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Speaker 7: correct me wrong, but you pretty much exhausted, and you've
25:04
Speaker 7: looked at all the make of the vehicles, who's purchased,
25:09
Speaker 7: who's driven around the area. You had to ensure that
25:13
Speaker 7: there was nobody going to be around when you got
25:17
Speaker 7: out of the vehicle to shoot and kill Liz. So
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Speaker 7: you can't just tell me you just drove up at
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Speaker 7: that specific time. I'm assuming that there had to be
25:26
Speaker 7: some sort of case. You drove around, make sure that
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Speaker 7: this was being done. You made sure that you carried
25:32
Speaker 7: out the plot. Let's be real, this is intentional.
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Speaker 1: It was a hit.
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Speaker 7: It was well planned. We have the make of the vehicle.
25:43
Speaker 7: What is the motive for killing Liz? Was it insurance money?
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Speaker 2: Hey?
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Speaker 1: Hey, what we call that under the law?
25:53
Speaker 2: A complex question, So one question at a time, what
25:57
Speaker 2: did you do, Sergeant Richie to find the vehicle?
25:59
Speaker 11: So when I saw this video, I initially thought we
26:03
Speaker 11: were going to have that solved today. I really felt
26:05
Speaker 11: that the family or the husband was going to tell me, yes,
26:08
Speaker 11: we have a problem with a certain person they drive
26:10
Speaker 11: a Nissan Frontier, because it just seemed so deliberate. But
26:15
Speaker 11: that wasn't the case that night. That day, the court
26:19
Speaker 11: again occurred early in the morning. We were out there
26:21
Speaker 11: all morning, afternoon, and evening canvassing the entire neighborhood for
26:26
Speaker 11: different video that had captured the vehicle besides the one
26:30
Speaker 11: that we're seeing right now. So with looking at all
26:35
Speaker 11: of the video, we also I also have contacts with
26:38
Speaker 11: the Texas Rangers and the FBI, and a ranger that
26:42
Speaker 11: I had known through other investigations gave me registrations of
26:47
Speaker 11: all the Nissan Frontiers in that area and other surrounding
26:51
Speaker 11: areas in Harris County and Montgomery County. So I initially
26:56
Speaker 11: thought that Nissan Frontiers were not really a very pot
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Speaker 11: popular or common vehicle, but one seeing those registrations, I
27:06
Speaker 11: realized that there was a lot of them out there.
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Speaker 1: They're very popular. They're very popular.
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Speaker 11: Well, in Texas, everything's big in Texas. That's more of
27:14
Speaker 11: a smaller time.
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Speaker 1: This is more of a smaller truck. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 11: A lot of Texas, a lot of Texas guys and
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Speaker 11: girls like to drive the bigger, the bigger, four door.
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Speaker 6: Full sized trucks rather than those smaller trucks.
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Speaker 1: Could it have been a rental vehicle?
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Speaker 11: We looked into We looked into rentals, and what I've
27:33
Speaker 11: found out, what I was told was that there were companies.
27:36
Speaker 11: Most companies did not rent out those vehicles.
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Speaker 6: But we did look into it and it came up
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Speaker 6: with nothing.
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Speaker 11: Another thing with the video, of course, there's no license
27:47
Speaker 11: plate visible.
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Speaker 6: Even if they.
27:49
Speaker 11: Did have a legit license plate, most likely it's fictitious.
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Speaker 6: We see that a lot in these type of situations.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you a couple of quick questions.
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Speaker 2: Sargeant Richie. Did you try to have the video enhanced?
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Speaker 5: Yes? No?
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Speaker 4: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Did it work?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 1: Could you try it again? Says technology has improved?
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Speaker 11: Yes, we're currently working on that right now. Do you
28:10
Speaker 11: have the bullets a revolver was used. We do not
28:13
Speaker 11: have casings, but we do have some of the projectiles.
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Speaker 6: Yes, that we that we're shore.
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Speaker 2: So then simply put, yes, have they been entered into
28:24
Speaker 2: the National Ballistics Database?
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Speaker 6: Yes?
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Speaker 1: When was the last time they were entered?
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Speaker 6: I would not be able to know.
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Speaker 11: That wouldn't be a question for me, that would be
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Speaker 11: for our the Harris County Institute of Forensic Sciences.
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Speaker 2: And also regarding the bullets, you're saying you had no shells,
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Speaker 2: is that what you're saying correct?
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Speaker 11: There was no There was no casings. Therefore, we believe
28:47
Speaker 11: a revolver was used. A revolver does not eject casings
28:51
Speaker 11: when it's fired like a semi automatic.
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Speaker 6: If you use a semi automatic with a magazine, it will.
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Speaker 11: Eject casings as you fire it, so you know, definitely,
28:59
Speaker 11: semi automatic handguns are more common these days than revolvers.
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Speaker 11: So again, just with a revolver being used, in my opinion,
29:06
Speaker 11: this is just another tactic used by the shooter to
29:11
Speaker 11: try to hide their identity and who they are and
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Speaker 11: what weapon was used. With no casings being able to
29:19
Speaker 11: be collected.
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Speaker 3: Elizabeth Barazza's shooter dressed in disguise and used a revolver
29:31
Speaker 3: to leave no trace behind.
29:34
Speaker 2: To Sergia Barraza. This is Liz's then husband, Sergio. You
29:38
Speaker 2: heard me earlier talking about how you guys would dress
29:41
Speaker 2: up in play as you refer to.
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Speaker 1: All things nerdy.
29:46
Speaker 2: And the reason I'm asking that is because I believe
29:50
Speaker 2: the perp was dressed up as well. I also think
29:54
Speaker 2: the purp may very well have been a woman. We've
29:57
Speaker 2: seen over and over, which I'm going to go over
29:59
Speaker 2: with Andy conn in a moment video of Missy Beaver's
30:02
Speaker 2: killer who has the gate of a female. But let
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Speaker 2: me ask you something surge going again, Thank you for
30:08
Speaker 2: being with us. The pickup truck that was captured on
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Speaker 2: surveillance video nearby shortly before you left for work. In
30:17
Speaker 2: other words, it was lying. The driver was lying in wait.
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Speaker 2: Investigators believe the shooter may have been waiting for you
30:26
Speaker 2: to leave to make sure Liz was alone. Did you
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Speaker 2: have any sense of a car, a vehicle, a truck
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Speaker 2: in waight?
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Speaker 6: No, ma'am.
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Speaker 4: Whenever I left for work, it was just like a
30:40
Speaker 4: normal day for us. Liz was set up for that
30:44
Speaker 4: garage sale, and I was just headed to work like
30:46
Speaker 4: a normal day. I wasn't looking for anything suspicious or anything.
30:50
Speaker 4: I just headed out.
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Speaker 2: Tell me about some of the events at which you
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Speaker 2: guys dressed up. There's a Star Wars photos, there's Harry
30:59
Speaker 2: Potter photos. I see what I believe to be a
31:02
Speaker 2: Renaissance Festival photo. What other events would you attend at
31:08
Speaker 2: which you would dress up?
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Speaker 4: We would go to children's hospitals to visit kids there
31:12
Speaker 4: to cheer them up. We would go to community events
31:16
Speaker 4: all in Houston area. We would also, like you said,
31:20
Speaker 4: go to like the Renaissance Festival for fun, just all around,
31:25
Speaker 4: just to have a good time throughout the community and
31:29
Speaker 4: helping kids out. That's what we enjoyed and loved to
31:32
Speaker 4: do together.
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Speaker 2: Did you ever dress up with other people? Do you
31:38
Speaker 2: have a group surrounding you?
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Speaker 4: Yes, we were part of a charity group that they
31:44
Speaker 4: have a community across the world, honestly that does community
31:49
Speaker 4: events like this for Star Wars and the communities that
31:53
Speaker 4: they're in, and we all kind of communicate and travel around,
31:59
Speaker 4: meet each other there and and help each other out
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Speaker 4: through these events and stuff. It's a lot of fun.
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Speaker 2: I'm leading up to something about the charity listen, I.
32:09
Speaker 4: Believe and I just saw on the camera these vehicle
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Speaker 4: pulled up the thros around I guess were there, and
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Speaker 4: then like I don't hear anything for a second, and
32:18
Speaker 4: then I just hear the four shots in Hurst Green
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Speaker 4: and that's it.
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Speaker 2: Everybody can show you we don't want.
32:24
Speaker 4: To come though I've never seen the vehicle over. The
32:26
Speaker 4: only thing.
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Speaker 5: I can think of is I don't even want to
32:29
Speaker 5: consider of that because it's we're a part of a
32:32
Speaker 5: charity group.
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Speaker 4: And we're going through the little election things and there's
32:37
Speaker 4: a couple of people that just don't get along with us.
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Speaker 5: But I don't know to come home and shoot my wife.
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Speaker 1: Sergio, what are you talking about?
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Speaker 4: At the time we were in the group we were in,
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Speaker 4: like I was saying, there's just elections for officers within
32:52
Speaker 4: the community, I mean within the charity group. And with
32:58
Speaker 4: as elections go, there's there's like discussions and arguments that happen,
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Speaker 4: and at the time that's what was happening. But like
33:08
Speaker 4: I said, I don't believe anyone in this group would
33:12
Speaker 4: ever hurt anyone like this. This is a group for
33:15
Speaker 4: good that does charity, that does such good work.
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Speaker 2: But immediately that sprang to mind, and I found very
33:23
Speaker 2: often that in moments of clarity, we come up with
33:29
Speaker 2: very very let me just say probative ideas. Listen, well
33:33
Speaker 2: you you could put our charity.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're a part of a group called the five
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Speaker 5: hundred and.
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Speaker 1: First Legion and it's yeah, it's a.
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Speaker 3: It's a scholars charity group.
33:46
Speaker 4: And know about good I really think they were just.
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Speaker 3: Probative.
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Speaker 1: They're a hundred.
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Speaker 6: Dollars, but it's probably but well.
33:57
Speaker 5: You know how that g had one hundred dollars a
33:59
Speaker 5: care okay, yeah, a little bred block walks.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, we had a gold and everything.
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Speaker 7: Ridie, if you could be.
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Speaker 2: The so again, people within the charity seem to be
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Speaker 2: on your mind at the time. And what were you
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Speaker 2: saying about elections?
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Speaker 4: Like I said, it was a during that time. Every
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Speaker 4: year we have different elections to have officers within the
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Speaker 4: charity who helped organize it at that time.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so the elections for that.
34:29
Speaker 2: Let me ask you very quickly, and I'm trying to
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Speaker 2: get as much evidence as I can and as quickly
34:33
Speaker 2: as I can.
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Speaker 1: Have you taken a polygraph?
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Speaker 4: Yes?
34:37
Speaker 1: Have you taken one or two polygraphs?
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Speaker 4: I believe it was only one, Yes, it was one.
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Speaker 1: Did you pass the polygraph?
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Speaker 4: When I spoke to doctor, I'm detective Ritchie.
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Speaker 11: He told me I had Is that true, Sergeant Richie, Yes,
34:50
Speaker 11: he did take a polygraph.
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Speaker 6: Again, I'm not the one that conducted it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Fine, he took the polygraph. Do you know if
34:56
Speaker 2: he passed it? Yes, okay, And very quickly back to you,
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Speaker 2: Orgio Baraza. When you're speaking earlier, you say, I saw
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Speaker 2: on the camera this vehicle pulls up, turns around right there.
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Speaker 2: I don't hear anything, and then I hear four shots.
35:13
Speaker 2: You go on to describe money in a lock box.
35:16
Speaker 2: Was the money taken? No, Bob and Roseberry and Nelly
35:20
Speaker 2: are with us as Lizz's parents.
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Speaker 1: Bob, what do you think, Well, if you look at the.
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Speaker 5: Video where the animal shot and killed my beautiful daughter,
35:30
Speaker 5: there's no time for them to take anything. They didn't
35:34
Speaker 5: touch anything. They walked up, talked to her, shot her
35:37
Speaker 5: four times, and then like a.
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Speaker 7: Coward, ran away.
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Speaker 5: And there's no justification in the world for anyone to
35:46
Speaker 5: be murdered, but there's specifically no justification for my daughter
35:51
Speaker 5: because she was a good actor.
35:53
Speaker 10: She was not.
35:54
Speaker 5: Involved in anything shady or anything that would have brought
35:59
Speaker 5: her in conflict.
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Speaker 1: With the law. It's just puzzling.
36:04
Speaker 5: It's frustrating news. It just doesn't seem real.
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Speaker 1: Serjian Ritchie. Yes or no?
36:15
Speaker 2: Did you guys try to glean security video from red lights?
36:22
Speaker 2: Video from red lights, traffic cams, other homes, businesses just
36:27
Speaker 2: outside their subdivision to see the vehicle coming in or out?
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Speaker 6: Yes?
36:32
Speaker 1: Where'd the vehicle come from?
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Speaker 6: A road called Kirkandahl that's outside the neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: Did you see that on video?
36:38
Speaker 6: Yes? Could you enhance the video that video?
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Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 11: The video that you see is pretty much the best
36:44
Speaker 11: video that we found throughout that entire neighborhood. And there's
36:48
Speaker 11: a few others that we got from other homes that
36:51
Speaker 11: we released to the media that was shown on the
36:54
Speaker 11: local news shortly after the murder.
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Speaker 1: Corley Peel KPRC two. What or do we know at
37:01
Speaker 1: this point?
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Speaker 10: There's still not a lot because we at the five
37:05
Speaker 10: year anniversary, we released, you know, the latest details about
37:08
Speaker 10: the case that detectives are still searching for Liz Lizbro's
37:13
Speaker 10: as killer, but still no one seems to have any
37:17
Speaker 10: real hard information about who.
37:19
Speaker 1: Did this to her.
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Speaker 10: So as a news that we can continue, you know,
37:24
Speaker 10: bringing light to her case, bringing the latest information, but
37:28
Speaker 10: as of right now, it still seems to be a
37:31
Speaker 10: bit of a standstill.
37:33
Speaker 1: To Rosemary Nellie, this is Liz's mother, Rosemary. What do
37:38
Speaker 1: you think, Well.
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Speaker 8: It's very frustrating to say released. I do think it
37:45
Speaker 8: was a hit. I do think it was planned. I
37:54
Speaker 8: just can't figure out the motive.
37:58
Speaker 3: The motive is not.
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Speaker 8: Something that I just can't imagine somebody.
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Speaker 6: Just doing this to her.
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Speaker 7: She's a sweet woman.
38:09
Speaker 4: I mean.
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Speaker 8: I I just do believe it was a hit. I
38:15
Speaker 8: told why they would have done this to her.
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Speaker 2: Guys, there is a fifty thousand dollars reward fifty thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars in the search for Liz's killer the tip line
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Speaker 2: seven one three two two two tips seven one three
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Speaker 2: two two two eight four seven seven please bring peace
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Speaker 2: to her family. I want to thank all of our
38:44
Speaker 2: guests for being with us, especially Liz's.
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Speaker 1: Widow and her parents.
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Speaker 2: Nancy Gray signing off, good bye friend
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Speaker 7: A