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Oklahoma Sooners Get John Mateer and some GREAT News out of the Transfer Portal | Whos Next? · Sooner or Later Sports

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  Speaker 1: Yep, good news came down the line. Y'all saw the
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  Speaker 1: answered reaction, and we got a special guest here on
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  Speaker 1: the Sooner or Later Sports show. We've got a lot
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  Speaker 1: to talk about, that's coop. I am Jay. Thank y'all
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  Speaker 1: five anyway, and uh gifted. So yeah, I lost my
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  Speaker 1: mind a little bit earlier, so I had to go
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  Speaker 1: live first. But we've got to get everybody's reaction to
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  Speaker 1: this because guess what, it's over. It is done. The
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  Speaker 1: most important component to all of this stuff is locked up.
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  Speaker 1: We got Colin Kennedy here from Sooner's Illustrated two four
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  Speaker 1: seven c K. How you doing, my man?
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  Speaker 2: I'm surviving. I'm alive, and this damn thing is over.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I am I'm exhausted. I can't think straight.
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  Speaker 2: We just did our inter reaction and I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that I strung one sentence together properly. But it's finally over.
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  Speaker 2: Excited to sit here talk some ball with y'all. Thanks
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  Speaker 2: to everyone tuning in in the chat and now my
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  Speaker 2: tears and no Clona sooner, folks, It's finally done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's done, Coop. How are you feeling, man? How
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  Speaker 1: are you? You didn't get to give us the instant
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  Speaker 1: reaction because you was in the streets being a parent.
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  Speaker 1: He was being a grown up, and I was over
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  Speaker 1: here being a degenerate hitting the refresh button NonStop, literally
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  Speaker 1: just doing that for like, like you know, three days.
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  Speaker 1: How are you feeling, man?
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  Speaker 3: Man? You know, it's crazy, Like obviously this is where
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  Speaker 3: I felt what's happening based off of stuff that everybody
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  Speaker 3: you know that we talked to. Uh, but in this
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  Speaker 3: in this area, it was Yeah, it may be.
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  Speaker 2: By the end of the show. You never know, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, listen, we might have to strike up an old
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  Speaker 3: chord with the old competitive depth game and so but uh,
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  Speaker 3: but you guys already you guys already hit yours. But
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  Speaker 3: I'll just say this, it's like in this day and age,
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  Speaker 3: like the things that you know and the things that
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  Speaker 3: you hear sometimes can be so far apart, and so
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  Speaker 3: there's so much information out there, and then you know
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  Speaker 3: there's there's people who are trying to be funny and
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  Speaker 3: they're kind of trolling, and so it's like, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: the casual may see it and go, well, hold on
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  Speaker 3: a second, really, see our offensive coordinator is gonna leave
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  Speaker 3: and be the head coach now, you know. So there's
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that, But it's like it's easier when it's
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  Speaker 3: like spring game and now you're like you've got that
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  Speaker 3: pit in your heart for the next couple of months
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  Speaker 3: until kickoff and you're just waiting and waiting and waiting.
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  Speaker 3: And that's kind of what I felt like over the
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  Speaker 3: past couple of days. It's like, man, just get this
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  Speaker 3: thing over with, Like I think it would just be
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  Speaker 3: therapeutic for an entire fan base.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was feeling the need of ripping the band aid.
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  Speaker 1: It's all I want is rip that thing off, get
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  Speaker 1: it done. But like U c K, all of us
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  Speaker 1: have been hitting that refresh button. The information is flowing
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  Speaker 1: into you NonStop. I'm starting to get messages. On the side.
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  Speaker 1: Coop was getting calls, text messages, voicemails. I think he
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  Speaker 1: had like two or three carrier pigeons show up too
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  Speaker 1: with information. It's like, who in the hell still using
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  Speaker 1: carrier pigeons. But I digress.
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  Speaker 3: Who's cleaning up after that?
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  Speaker 2: Who's cleaning up after this?
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  Speaker 1: Who's cleaned up all these flowers? But I'm just glad
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  Speaker 1: now we got the quarterback in place, you got two
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  Speaker 1: wire receivers that committed today, And I'm gonna be one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent honest. There was definitely no coincidence about that.
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  Speaker 1: Those dudes met probably Jeo Matterier, and said, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: want that guy throwing me the ball, so c K,
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  Speaker 1: I want to I want to step back first before
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  Speaker 1: we jump into the ben arbuckle hire and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Alabama to LSU, Man, did that? Did you still have
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  Speaker 1: hope in this defense after the Alabama performance in the
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  Speaker 1: the LSU deal?
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  Speaker 2: Yes and no. I mean, what a what a tale
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  Speaker 2: of two games. I didn't even think that was gonna
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  Speaker 2: be on the Bengo card for tonight. Wow, I had
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  Speaker 2: to the I know you've got me unprepared and on
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  Speaker 2: the spot, which is what I mean, want to start
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  Speaker 2: to the show. Look, I'll say this, that Alabama showing
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  Speaker 2: was as impressive of a defensive performance that I had
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  Speaker 2: seen at Oklahoma a very long time. I mean, when
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  Speaker 2: you consider the context, not just the opponent, the on
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  Speaker 2: field stuff, but everything that had gone into that game.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that was the first game for me that
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  Speaker 2: it felt like Oklahoma didn't have a chance to win,
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  Speaker 2: and they did because of that defense. The turnaround at
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  Speaker 2: the LSU game was startling. But you see the vision,
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  Speaker 2: and I've said it all season long. I've taken a
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  Speaker 2: lot of what the defense has done poorly with a
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  Speaker 2: grain of salt because of how poor things were offensively.
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  Speaker 2: It's really hard in today's world of college football to
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  Speaker 2: be elite defensively consistently. It's really really hard to be
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  Speaker 2: elite when you've got almost no help from your offense.
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  Speaker 2: And so it seems like that won't necessarily be the
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  Speaker 2: case going into twenty twenty five. We still got to
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  Speaker 2: find out how they're going to retool the rest of
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  Speaker 2: that unit. But man, what a defensive stretch that was.
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  Speaker 2: I totally forgot that was even a thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I My hope and my excitement for
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  Speaker 1: the future went up after the Bama game. Now, granted,
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  Speaker 1: you know, LSU didn't look as promising, but LSU was
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  Speaker 1: actually smart. They recognize that you do need to make
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  Speaker 1: adjustments and you can't just try to run down their
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  Speaker 1: throat and bogue art them non stop, make them think.
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  Speaker 1: Alabama thought they could be one dimensional them win the game. Granted,
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  Speaker 1: I get why. I mean, when your offense doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: a pulse, sure you should be able to go out
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  Speaker 1: there and just you know, do one thing and win.
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  Speaker 1: But we showed both sides could run the ball and
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  Speaker 1: was able to somewhat pass the ball. But now we've
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  Speaker 1: been able to move into a new stratosphere of football.
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  Speaker 1: We we had an offensive coordinator that runs a variation
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  Speaker 1: of the air raid and he says he has four
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  Speaker 1: different variations, which I appreciate. Now he brought his quarterback
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  Speaker 1: with them, Coop. The defense looks like it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: the same, if not better. Can that Is that a
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  Speaker 1: true statement? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's crazy to think. Like at the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of the year, I said, what's nuts is the mower
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  Speaker 3: athletic people on this defense? Are the people waiting in
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  Speaker 3: the wings? Like you know that that from an athletics standpoint,
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  Speaker 3: Like these are higher, higher, you know, higher recruited guys. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: just across the board. You know, a staff you know
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  Speaker 3: put together this dream by recruiting these guys and so
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  Speaker 3: you go out and again there's a couple of uh,
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  Speaker 3: there's a couple of things that I just got another note,
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  Speaker 3: there's a couple of uh. Now, now this is gonna
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  Speaker 3: be tough tonight. Okay, so you got a couple of
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  Speaker 3: you know, offensive pieces going in right now to go
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  Speaker 3: after this defense. You're still gonna go after a couple
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  Speaker 3: of uh defenders, I believe you know, you're still looking
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  Speaker 3: at maybe a defensive back and maybe you know, an
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  Speaker 3: edge or an interior line guy just for uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the depth portion of it, so you can run that
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  Speaker 3: hockey lineup change whenever you need to. But this is
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  Speaker 3: just gonna help, you know, the difference in you know,
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  Speaker 3: we saw for years and guys tell me if I'm
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  Speaker 3: if I'm crazy here. But like when you've got a
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  Speaker 3: really really good offense and a dog crap defense, like
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  Speaker 3: the offense doesn't really get winded. They still are calling
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  Speaker 3: the plays and they're still dictating everything. So so like
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  Speaker 3: there's not that correlation of one side of the ball
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  Speaker 3: getting drained if you know, the defense is just you know,
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  Speaker 3: going out there and standing for a few seconds while
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  Speaker 3: you know they run, you know, run on air. But
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  Speaker 3: like with this defense. This year, they had a grind
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  Speaker 3: so much, and I mean there was literally times to
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  Speaker 3: where Venables was saying, like, for us to be in
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  Speaker 3: this game, we're gonna have to score. We're gonna have
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  Speaker 3: to you know, cause something right up on the goal line.
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  Speaker 3: And we saw it against Simple and so yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: bring in an offense to go with this defense, and it,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, it doesn't have to be a top
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  Speaker 3: ten offense, can it be?
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  Speaker 1: Let's go see.
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  Speaker 3: But like, it doesn't have to be a top ten offense.
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  Speaker 3: If you get I mean even our offense from last year,
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  Speaker 3: you know on with this defense, it's it. It can
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  Speaker 3: become scary.
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  Speaker 1: The question is can we just I just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be competent. That's the only thing I asked for. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't really care if it was anything more or less
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  Speaker 1: than that. If you have give me competence. The defense
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  Speaker 1: was doing just enough to finish all of that. So see,
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  Speaker 1: kay looking at this. So now you bring in John Mattier.
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  Speaker 1: We've got that commitment. Everybody's reacting. We've gotten excited about it.
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  Speaker 1: But now you've got the other pieces on there. These
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  Speaker 1: two wide receivers that came in Giovanni Gibson as well
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  Speaker 1: as with that Contres Lewis the count tres Is the
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  Speaker 1: old head he played at.
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  Speaker 3: What you see was l u C l A UCLA.
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  Speaker 2: I think fourth school school.
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  Speaker 1: No hold up, before we talk about that, somebody had
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  Speaker 1: a stat that like fifty or sixty percent of these
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  Speaker 1: kids in the portal this time have been to multiple schools.
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  Speaker 3: It's well, you saw like the Key Lawrence one where
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  Speaker 3: you know it had Tennessee to Oklahoma to is it UCLA.
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  Speaker 1: Also, if somebody else was collecting a jersey's like Shaq
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  Speaker 1: was in the NBA had to get the rainbow going,
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  Speaker 1: I can't see who it was, but they had like
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  Speaker 1: seven or.
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  Speaker 2: Eight schools on there, and I'm like, I'm sorry, but
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  Speaker 2: nothing tops bear Alexander Yes in state Jersey with a
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  Speaker 2: Georgia tattoo on his arm and a USC profile picture.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing will ever top that. That is in the history
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  Speaker 2: of college football and the transfer portal. I just I've
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  Speaker 2: never seen anything like that before.
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  Speaker 1: He has a Georgia tattoo.
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  Speaker 2: And like, this is what I was thinking, Coop. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, the choice to to flex that arms specific
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  Speaker 2: if you go with the other arm, you're in the clear,
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  Speaker 2: right with the Georgia logo, man like, let's get our
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  Speaker 2: awareness up a little bit, help yourself out man.
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  Speaker 1: So away back to it. Lewis he played at Southern
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  Speaker 1: Illinois and he brings a veteran presence. He's a big
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  Speaker 1: body with six ' three. We got what is that
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  Speaker 1: two six three plus receivers we're bringing in now?
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  Speaker 3: So far?
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  Speaker 1: Are we like literally trying to have only receivers at
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  Speaker 1: that height and up going forward? Is that now the goal?
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  Speaker 2: Se Ka make sense? In the SEC listen. I said
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  Speaker 2: it a couple of weeks ago. I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: pretty telling that almost exclusively Oklahoma was going after receivers
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  Speaker 2: in the portal that were six foot two and above.
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  Speaker 2: No one really underneath that metric was being pursued by
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  Speaker 2: the Sooners. Isaiah Santana is now on that list since
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  Speaker 2: that time, but that's a different skill set. You're talking
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  Speaker 2: about someone who can absolutely take the top off of
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  Speaker 2: the defense. I think it told you at the time
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  Speaker 2: a lot about what they thought of Dion Burk situation.
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  Speaker 2: And I think what it really tells you now that
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  Speaker 2: some of these dominoes are falling. They really wanted to
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  Speaker 2: shore up the perimeter of this offense going into the
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  Speaker 2: air raid principal scheme. I still want to emphasize the
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  Speaker 2: fact that I don't think Oklahoma is getting ready to
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  Speaker 2: throw the ball around the yard seventy two times Patrick
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  Speaker 2: home style. But when you have someone like Dean Burk's,
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  Speaker 2: you have some of these younger wide receivers who can
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  Speaker 2: operate out of the slot. They had to get more experienced,
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  Speaker 2: more size, and just overall talent on the outside. And
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  Speaker 2: you can see the clear effort here. Keantes lewis six
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  Speaker 2: two ninety. I've heard he may be a little bit
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  Speaker 2: bigger than that now. And then Geovanni Gibson is someone
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about, y'all. I really like him specifically.
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  Speaker 2: I cut on the tape the other day and the
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  Speaker 2: platform that I use, it's kind of cool you can
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  Speaker 2: sort specifically by play. So I watched all of his
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  Speaker 2: deep balls from this past season, and I'm sitting there going,
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  Speaker 2: this guy would be making these plays if he were
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  Speaker 2: playing at Oklahoma. It's about proper utilization. But man, I
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  Speaker 2: saw someone in the live chat. I just want to
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  Speaker 2: see him throw the ball. I was telling Callway earlier
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  Speaker 2: today when we were doing some prep. You just didn't
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  Speaker 2: have that this season, not even an ounce. I could
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  Speaker 2: barely tell you them throwing the ball downfield consistently at
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  Speaker 2: all in twenty twenty four. These receivers they get today,
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  Speaker 2: John Theteer is huge, benar Buckle is huge. But this
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  Speaker 2: portal window was almost going to be about just to
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  Speaker 2: those moves. How they addressed the receiver room, and with
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  Speaker 2: these two guys now into the fold, I really like
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  Speaker 2: the direction that they're heading. And I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: they're done anytime soon either.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like it feels like the wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: room is definitely the one thing that is probably the
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  Speaker 1: the larger focus. Like we knew we needed a quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: right we need an additional set And I want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that I clear this up in the chat.
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  Speaker 1: I cleared this up when I went live on my
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  Speaker 1: instant reaction. This is not a knock to Hawkins. Hawkins
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  Speaker 1: is a true freshman. Him and still Wiseella are the
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  Speaker 1: only quarterbacks in the room right now, and you probably
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  Speaker 1: need to have some more bodies in there, at least
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  Speaker 1: something would experience just in case you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: go in there only with Jet NW as your true
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  Speaker 1: freshman behind a true sophomore. That's how you end up
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  Speaker 1: where you are today. You want to make sure you
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  Speaker 1: have additional But at the same time, Materia walks in
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  Speaker 1: with two years of experience in this offense. Remember he
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  Speaker 1: sat behind cam Ward for two years one year with
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  Speaker 1: Eric Morris up there at OC. He bounced and went
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  Speaker 1: to North Texas. Then our buckle takes over, so he
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  Speaker 1: had two years there in our buckle system. All he
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  Speaker 1: can do is teach everybody around him the game, kind
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  Speaker 1: of like Jeff Leby Dylan Gabriel. That's what I see
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  Speaker 1: with this the scenario. Plus, at the same time, this
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  Speaker 1: dude is considered the best duel with their quarterback in
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  Speaker 1: the lead in the country right now. So yeah, if
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  Speaker 1: you can get number one, do like, he's number one
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  Speaker 1: on everybody's charts, in player rankings, in the transfer portal.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, you can get him, you do it.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll go I'll go even further than this Jay.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's better than Levy Gabriel because Levy Gabriel had
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  Speaker 3: a gap in between. And so I mean they just
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  Speaker 3: literally were you know, probably last time they saw before
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  Speaker 3: it became official on our side, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the last thing you probably said was talk to you soon,
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  Speaker 3: you know. I mean, it's not like he's got in
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  Speaker 3: the gap. So and I love Michael Hawkins also, but
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  Speaker 3: there's a significant advantage when you know the playbook, Like
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  Speaker 3: when you know the playbook and you've been you know,
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  Speaker 3: they Ben our vocal knows everything about Jeometier. He knows
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  Speaker 3: what he's comfortable with, you know, if we really just
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  Speaker 3: got to get you back in a rhythm, he knows
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  Speaker 3: what he can go to there. And yeah, it's on
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  Speaker 3: film for the defense. But I mean that's that's how
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  Speaker 3: offensive coordinators who are competent at their craft do it
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  Speaker 3: is you set up stuff. You you play for the moment.
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  Speaker 3: You're not like, this isn't stuff you scripted out. This
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  Speaker 3: isn't like, hey, let's go with no plan and no identity. So, yeah, guys,
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  Speaker 3: I this I don't think I've been Last year, we
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  Speaker 3: were pretty excited about Tom Williams, and I still, you know,
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  Speaker 3: still think that was a turning point for the optics
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  Speaker 3: of the in the country for Oh You. But I
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  Speaker 3: mean I'm sitting here looking at the SEC. Mike and
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  Speaker 3: Big Shane are talking about oh You right now on
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  Speaker 3: their Live and it says, I think the Sooners upgraded
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  Speaker 3: a quarterback in a big, big way. Landing the Washington
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  Speaker 3: State QB changes the narrative around Oh you football, so
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  Speaker 3: they know what the defensive narrative is. Now all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden, Oh God, what happens if they put an
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  Speaker 3: offense with that defense and now the teams are gonna
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna change. You'll see some Vegas movement here too soon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, to add to that really quick,
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  Speaker 1: Corey Robinson, the lineman from Georgia Tech, just tweeted out
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  Speaker 1: he will be visiting the University of Oklahoma tomorrow. He
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  Speaker 1: was just at Arkansas and he's coming to visit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now that we've got the main guy in the boat,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna start seeing everything else coming together. That's what's
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  Speaker 1: most important. But yeah, it does change the entire narrative
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  Speaker 1: to me, going into next season, all the concerns around offense,
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  Speaker 1: to me kind of get washed away because you've actually
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  Speaker 1: got two dudes that have done this before. We've seen
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  Speaker 1: we have actual data seeing him do it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: cam Wore was a Heisman finalist mainly because of the
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  Speaker 1: two years he did at Washington State with two different
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  Speaker 1: offensive coordinators. The game continued with materrs, So I think
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  Speaker 1: that that helps us a lot. And at the defense
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  Speaker 1: stays and which it looks like should be special question
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  Speaker 1: on that though. All of this transfer portal stuff has
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  Speaker 1: been wild. But I haven't got a chance that we
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  Speaker 1: talked to you about the class that just came in.
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  Speaker 1: I know that you are close in the area. You've
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: got a chance to get don to Lewisville. You got
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to see Fasusi and all of them. Yeah, how stressed
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: were you about that situation?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Man, that's a great question. I have to really choose
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: how I answered this. I know that there was a
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: lot of conversation out there about never in doubt, never
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: in question for Michael Fasusi, and I'm not here to
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: deny that. Yep. I can only tell you what I know,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: and I man, I had some phone calls that morning
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: that made me go, oh, no, that like this is
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: this is at least gonna get interesting. I obviously can't
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: dive too much into what took place, but when I
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: got to that cafeteria, I had it on pretty good
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: authority it was going to be Oklahoma, but I knew
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Texas and A and m I mean at one point
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I was getting off the phone with somebody and they
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: were getting on a call with Texas again right after
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: my phone call with them. It was it was right
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: up until the buzzer. I think Michael Fasusi, I mean, what,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: by the way, guys, like, what a talent acquisition stretch
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: for this staff. When you think about Matier, Michael Fasousi,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: some of these huge decisions that have now kind of
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: gone in their favor. It's been a wild month or
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: so when you're talking about guys that are foundational pieces
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: of the program, guys that they had to get. So
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Michael Fasusi is the kingpin for obvious reasons. I love
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: this class. I think it's a really nice freshman group,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: and I think it really supplements what they're getting ready
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: to do in the transfer portal and what they've already
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: done now to the this point with guys like Materii
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and some of those receivers into the mix.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: If you look at just that track record, as you
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: just pointed out, Gosh, from Fasussi, Foje up to Materi. Yeah,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: this staff has actually put together a very nice look.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Now the question is continue to be wide receiver we
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: just saw five dudes bounce into the portal. Yeah, that
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that's a lot if you really think about it. But
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Jaydon Gibson like he's intact. Dion Burks came through and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: changed his number. Think he of course he was waiting
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: for Nick to lee so he can get that number back, right.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: You know, he rocks a number four chains, so made
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: me feel like, oh, he really wanted his number backs,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: so he's like, you know, Nick, go ahead and leave
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: so I get my number back. You can kind of
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: see that with him. I'm not concerned about EMMITTT. Jones,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: And this is my theory. Tell me if I'm crazy.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I put this video out about a week ago because
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: everybody was freaking out before everything was going down. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: and if you notice the guys that left, only one
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: of them would technically be considered a guy that EMITTT
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Jones had brought in, which was Brennan Thompson. Andre Anthony
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: came in the day that he got announced to get
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the job. So I don't know if there were some
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: conversations there, I'm gonna pretend like they weren't because I
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: don't want people to be thinking about Tampa. But all
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the dudes basically kind of left were not his guys.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Gibson stuck around because you could see that he improved
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: with e. J. Burks was one of his recruits. It
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: kind of feels like he was ready to that the
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: fight to keep all those players weren't as high for
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: him because he was looking to kind of transition into
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the guys he really would like. Do I sound crazy, No,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: not at all.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's the simple nature of the situation, Like,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: let's just be real here. They had to get guys
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: who could be on the field consistently. At the end
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: of the day. Your best your best ability is availability.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: And I talked about it at the time a little bit.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I cannot sit here and act like losing those guys
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: isn't significant. I think Nick Anderson is a Sunday player,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: and I think people forget when that guy is healthy.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: People had him as a projected first round pick, and
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I was totally on board. That guy is a freak show.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Jalil Faruke. I mean a guy that people outside of
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma's fan base have talked to me about how much
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: that they love him. He He is someone who gave
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: his all to the program. And when you see a
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: guy like that walk out the door. It hurts, it does,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: But oh, you had to go into this offseason knowing
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: they at least had a shot at keeping an entire
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: receiving corp together throughout the entirety of the twenty twenty
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: five season, because this is what it really comes down to.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: If you're gonna invest all this money into riding the
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: ship on offense, it can't be deadweight. And unfortunately that
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: kind of materialized in twenty twenty four. A ton of
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: guys with a ton of value who could contribute at
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: a high level were on the bench, and you can't
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: control that. But going into twenty twenty five, knowing everything
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: that's at stake for Oklahoma, they had to have receivers
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: who would be able to help them and that they
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: could rely on on a week to week basis, because
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: that hadn't really been the case for a while. And
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: so I like the way that they addressed the situation.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I think that there's no bad blood really between any
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: of these guys. I know that Emmett Jones has handled
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: himself well behind the scenes to this point, and I
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: think Emma Jones a big reason why they're getting some
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: of these portal wide receivers to come into the program.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I think you've made a really good point. A lot
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: of this wasn't really EMMITTT. Jones to begin with, and
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: he can only do what he can actually accomplish. You're
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: kind of seeing the fruits of his labor come together,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: and whether it's winning the Dion Burke sweepstakes in house
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: to now seeing some of this turnover go into their
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: favor I in Gocahoma's looking a lot better and more
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: reliable at the receiver position, which had to happen before
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: That's a fair point. Got a couple of super chants.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: We're gonna jump into it a quick. Hey, cog b
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I j thanks for the two bucks. Any chance on
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: getting the Branch brothers. Look, you know they're expensive, we
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: all know that, and I do know that Matier follows them.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: But I ain't gonna be dumb enough to actually believe
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: that there's a chance of going after both of them,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: even though I don't think it's far fetched. I don't
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: think it's a chance. Coopie think we've got a chance
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: of getting.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I don't think we shake that tree. You know I
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: was waiting for that. Tell't don't think we shake that one.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I just I just think that the staff is going
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: after some hungry people who want to come in and
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: want to build something together. And you know, I think
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: that we're willing to spend some money on some guys.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: But you know, if you're going to be asking for
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: two three million dollars and you know, a bunch of
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: promises and stuff like that, it's that that's just probably
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: not it. So I don't know what their intentions are.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I do know that there is a chance. I just
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: don't think it's going to happen.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I think the other part of this that isn't getting
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: talked about a lot, but is very critical when you're
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: talking about the Branch brothers, and I've talked about this
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: with folks out in the personnel landscape in college football,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: you're not only committing, like Coop said, a lot of money,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: a lot of resources, a ton of promises to these players.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: You are committing a spot to the other brother as well,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: who is a safety. And I'm not here to take
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: a shot at him, but in the era of cut
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: down rosters, committing a scholarship spot to a duo, you
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: really have to like the players and I think in
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: the case of Oklahoma, I was telling someone earlier today,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: they love that safety room. They love that safety room.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Are you willing to shake that thing up and spend
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: a spot on someone like that? I don't think they're
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: willing to risk someone like a Reggie Powers, Jayden Hardy
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: and Michael Boganowski. I think they're really happy with the
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: players that they've brought in, and when you factor in
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: everything else, it just it doesn't make a lot of
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: sense to me. Right now, that's hot.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Because you take one, you got to take two, and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you said it perfectly. Cee k Going back through all
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: eight of them we have in that safety room, you
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: don't want any of them because if Robert Spiars, Genie's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: comes back, him and Peyton Bowen right then the three
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: that just Kate recently came with Powers, Boganowski as well
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: as Hardy, and then what's seven technically, and then you
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: got Wimberley as well as Amarion Robertson little man man.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: You don't want to break that, Yeah, you don't want to.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: You don't want to. That's a haul, And I don't
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: think Little Zachariah's brother is at that caliber. Can't even
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: play corner. Can you move in the corner? I don't
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: think so, so I wouldn't touch that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: And the other part of this too is the cheatah
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: spot's pretty much occupied as well. Like if Kenl Dolby's
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: coming back and you got on with Sego who they love,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: what do you do? I don't think you can make
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: a move considering the current status on the defensive side
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: of the ball, especially when we know for a fact
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: they are a package that's a non negotiable for them.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Exactly another two bucks from Lee Bard, thanks a bunch
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: for that. Bv's minimum wins to keep his job next season. WHOA,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: that's a spicy one. Well, it's got to be at
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: least it's got to be a leak eight or nine
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: now at this point.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, granted, we've never seen a season like this
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: season at a single program that I can remember. I
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: don't see it happening again. But I think that if
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: something like this year were to happen like that might
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: be the only thing. But yeah, I mean, I think
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: at this point you need to either have eight wins
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: or you getting some kind of a screw job that
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: only gives you seven. But I mean, I think it's
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: eight wins because let's be honest. I mean, if we
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: had I mean, if we were so clear, you went
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: against Missouri and then I don't know, you do anything
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: against Ole miss This is an eight and four football team.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: And so it's like, how much think of just think
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: of with this season and what we did, how much
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: just that little bitty jump we needed on offense. So
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: if the offense come out and produces and the defense
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: is balling out, I think people are gonna be upset
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: if it's not a playoff appearance.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with our schedule, not with gets you in the playoffs,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: because it's just the flip of last year. People will
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: they will still unfortunately quote unquote inflate a lot of
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the teams SEC will will go up against. But if
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: we show up with the same defense and its offense
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: is actually competent, a competent offense wins the Tennessee game.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: You know, a competent offense probably closes Missouri, actually does
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: close Missouri because that I'm still anyway, But that's eight
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: wins right there. That's just two And if I throw
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: in one wild card, don't turn the bottle over in
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the first five minutes three times against South Carolina. You
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: might have nine. That's nine, that's a possibility to go
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: into a and that's a fight into the playoffs.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I really struggle with this, man, I really do so,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: because I think eight wins definitely gets it done. I
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: people probably won't like this. I think seven should get
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: it done, depending on how it looks. Because here's what
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: you gotta consider. Michigan is coming to town. It's not
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: a cupcake in the non con anymore. The Wolverines are
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: coming with old Bryce Underwood, and I know they're in
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: the portal market as well for a quarterback to Yeah,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: they are heavily involved in the portal market. And so
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: you've got a Michigan game now on the schedule. Yes
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: it's at home. But Michigan's going to be a lot
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: better than what they were this past year. And by
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: the way, that's also a situation where they were good
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: on defense and not so good on offense. It's typically
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: easier to fix that offensive side of the ball. Michigan
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: could be much improved. I was talking about this too, guys, like,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: if you really think about it too, why I say
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: seven wins depending on how it looks. This is not
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: only that same brutal schedule now with a more difficult
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: non conslate. But you're getting a lot of these teams
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: at a time right now where you just don't want
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: to draw them. I mean, South Carolina is going to
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: go into next year with a potential Heisman Trophy candidate
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: at quarterback in Lamara Sellers. That guy is a stud.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Garrett Nesmyer's coming back for LSU. You got to deal
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: with that, dude again. You let off the show asking
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: me about what LSU did to the defense and our
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks coming back right going to Tennessee. Obviously Oklahoma has
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: done well all things considered, but man, you know they're
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: going to be fired up on Rocky Top for that game, and.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Anyway they want revenge for Baker coming back.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And depending on what happens with Jalen Milroe,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I don't think he solidified his status yet either.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Hm.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: That's a road trip, by the way, that is. Yeah,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: you're right, Look, it's and and and if it all
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: goes well, it should be a eight win caliber team.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: But as we know in college football, your record isn't
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: always what you actually are. And that's where I have
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: a hard time on this. Guys like it's it's very
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: much a debate for me.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: No, that's a fair point. I'm I'm I'm in the
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: camp with you. I think seven should be able to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: get it done, but I think the expectation is gonna
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: be eight. And honestly, that Michigan game is the only
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: reason why I think seven helps. But you're right, Bright
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Underwood company and the good thing gets he's a true
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: freshman and you'll see him within two weeks of the season.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: That helps that that leans in the Oklahoma favor.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Assuming he's a starter. By yeah, you know, if they
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: get a portal guy, you know, I don't know, well.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of the next question. Who's gonna
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: be the portal guy that they're gonna have even go
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: after and get Because to me, right now, if Miami's smart,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: they go get Fernando Mendoza. He lives, he's from born
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: and raised in Miami, so you probably should go and
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: do that. Seek's getting a message. Somebody just shot on
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: the line and said something about to happen.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: No, I was. I was looking because I was told
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: by somebody who I had heard Michigan might be going after.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I just don't know if the guy's been in the
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: portal yet, see, I don't think he is.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: That's where that Tampa comes in. He's trying to figure
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: out who to HEGs me in Tampa, Wa and who
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: ain't We don't know, we don't know.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I've I've got something for you. Somebody asked me about this,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: and this is not inside information or anything like that.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: But what if Quinn hops in the portal? And because
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: how do you stick it to Michigan? I mean, how
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: do you stick it to Ohio State? You go play
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: at Michigan?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: What if he goes back to Ohio State?
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Not just.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: They kind of need I mean they just lost Aaron Nolan,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Will Howard ain't really been it. I don't know what
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Julian Saying is doing yet. He's still young. That's not
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: out of the realm of possibilities as well. And they
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: need to find a way to beat Michigan because they
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: lost four times this year was unexcusable. But I digress.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I think I think Quinn's going to
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: the draft, to be clear, it's just, yeah, you never
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: know what this stuff, man, like the amount of the
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: amount of money sometimes getting thrown around in college football
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: these days, I never thought i'd see the day. I
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: really didn't.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't either until I saw that lawsuit stuff start
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to happen. And then we know that once the new
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: administration gets into the White House, their first goal is
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: to fix college football. It's with a few of the
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: politicians have said, and this is the one year that
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: all of this shit's gonna be wild. It's gotta be
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: because now you got the money to go ahead and
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: do something. So it's kind of fascinating to see that
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: everybody's willing to throw all this money out there, and
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: they're front loading all of it, so most of it
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: shows up before July first, when the seven one hundred
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and five man rosters are required, which is kind of interesting. Kevin,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for the ten bucks. Tanya, thank
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: you for the five as well, says oh you and one.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma came through in this one, this game changer they did.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: They came through fixed everything. But I got a couple
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: people with some good comments here. John says eight eight
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: wins would be great. I bet, and Kevin also points
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: out if the Oklahoma matt if the offense matches the defense,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: that's ten wins. I don't see why it wouldn't be
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: We'll bring you back roughly what a good what seventy
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: five percent of your defensive production? Because I think so
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: with with Stuts gone, Bowman gone, de John Terry gone,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: and wood He gone, Willard gone for gone. Oh never mind,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: you're probably losing about fifty of your production.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: You're losing some dudes like you are losing some guys.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Calculation mean a lot to that system, you know what
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I mean. I think a lot of it has to
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: do with Dominic Williams, because what Dominic does? I mean?
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Someone asked me about this the other day. I had
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: someone call me and go, hey, do you think that
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: the Dominic Williams stuff was worth the on field product?
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: And I was like, go watch him play, in my opinion,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: a technique on the defensive line he wasn't meant to play.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I thought he was coming to Oklahoma originally as like
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: a three tech. He's played knows for them, and there
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: were moments Texas game, I want to say, the old
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: misgame where he was blowing people up yep, as a
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: true inside guy. I have been stunned with what he's
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: accomplished on the interior. I here's where I go back
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: and forth, and I want to add some statistical context
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: of this. On one hand, I look at this and
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I go, okay, like, John Mattier is, in my opinion,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: one of the best players in all of college football.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I know I got some grief for that. I think
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: that's an idiotic take by people who won't admit it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: There's a number one player in points responsible for in
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: the nation and was pretty sizably ahead of cam Ward,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: who I believe was at number two. He averaged twenty
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: two plus points per game contributed on average by himself. Okay,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: number three, guys. This to me was the biggest statistic
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: that I saw. The year that cam Ward was the
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: quarterback and John Mattier was the backup, Washington State was
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: number thirty eight in scoring offense. When ma Tier took over.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: They went from thirty eighth with cam Ward to eleven
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: nationally MATERI at the Helm they dang near gott in
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the top ten in what matters most are you scoring points?
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: But on the flip side, guys, and this is why
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just presenting this for the takes here. You have
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: all of that from your quarterback, but you're coming from
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: such a low point. You know, what I mean, like yet,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: matching the defense is quite the standard to reach when
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: you've got guys that are coming in to elevate the standard,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: but you're starting from a low point, right. And then
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: the other part of this is you have to assume
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: everything pans out together. With all these transfers coming in,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: it could take a little while for it to flow.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: And I don't know what that looks like the first
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: few weeks of the season, especially against someone like Michigan,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: it may be a little funky out of the gate.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: We know, like I always say that that Oklahoma offensive
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: lines don't really come together until after the Texas gap.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems like a tradition. When it comes to
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Bill Beatonbow, I kind of feel bad for him on that.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: It's everybody, of course attacks him for it because he
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: does that, and it's the I guess, the chemistry piece.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: But the good thing is we're bringing back a lot
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: of people that's played together for at least a year.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: They're trying to understand each other and got to be healthy.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: That's the key thing. But this picture that Materir put
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: up here, everybody's paid attention to that bottom left corner.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: June twelfth, twenty twenty spans in high school when he
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: did his visit to Oklahoma. This is when he had
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: interest in playing at Oklahoma. Remember he's from Little Elm,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: so he's not very far. This is I mean, if
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I'm correct, him and Jackson, I don't have the same
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: quarterback coach so or trainer or something. So this is
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: him driving up to Oklahoma to take a picture because
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: you know, he would love to have You'd love to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: have come here. But he wasn't recruit He wasn't highly
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: recruited by a lot. Took his talents to Washington State,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: and then he of course showed up and showed out.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Now you said this, c K. You mentioned his name earlier,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people are throwing this out there.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying they see a little
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Baker in this. I'm not saying he's Baker Mayfield, but
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: they see a little Baker. I kind of see it too.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I've been watching a lot of his tape or play
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: some stuff in a second, but coop them past to
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: you first. Should I be slap?
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: I mean can be slap? Should I? I think you know?
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Number one is the guy does have I mean he
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: does look like as far as the gun slinger, just
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: go out and just like that's that's he's passionate about it,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: you know. And some of the throws, I mean, like
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: that one right there, it I mean it reminds me
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: of Hollywood Brown. You know, I can go through this
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: one right here, looks like he does a playfake to
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Joe Mixon and throws it out to Cede Lamb like
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: it like there's it kind of looks the same, right
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: but at the same time, like I saw it, I
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: saw a tweet and you know, shout out to the
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: guy who did it. But it was like every single
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: quarterback going back to Nate Hibbel and their their ou
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: komp is Baker Mayfield and you know, and so except
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: for Kyler, but it's like we've all wanted the Baker.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: But I think what gets us jazzed up about this
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: is you see him willing to go out there and
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: put everything on the line. Uh, you know there's one
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: is it this one right here? He gets No, it's
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: not that one. There's one where he gets like hitting
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: the legs. But I mean, dude, ran for what was it,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: twenty eight touchdowns and through for twenty nine. I mean,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: something crazy but I mean there's he was responsible for
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: like forty one forty two touchdowns, right.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Something ru for So that's twenty nine touchdowns through the air. Yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: ran for fifteen and forty four I believe total was
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: the number. Yeah, he ran.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I was fifteen more forty four total. That's a lot.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: And and so I mean he's got he's like, uh,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: what is it here? He was the leading rusher on
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: the team. He also was sacked thirty one times and
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: accomplished all the passing feats that he did. So it's
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: not like you're like, well, yeah, but wait till he
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: gets here, because this offensive line is gonna struggle a
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: little bit. Well, his offensive line was struggling this year too,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: and he still put up all those numbers.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: They really were.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I look at him and I see the Baker.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Not necessarily because oh six foot one, feisty guy, right
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: that that you turn on on the film. You're like, oh,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: he's got grit and toughness and he's he's hardy. No,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: it's like Moxie the guy. The guy is compact. You know,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Baker was really compactly built. You can see the strength
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: in his in his legs, like the the lower body
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: base has a lot of foundational strength to it. And
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: then like, even in my opinion, you watch the tape
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: of him and Baker, I always like because he would
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: run and he was a good athlete just like John is,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: but he'd have this kind of awkward running style where
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: the arm would kind of swing low, like the forearm.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: The forearm stayed low at all times, was never up here,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: and John kind of does the same thing where he
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: kind of like almost paddle boats his way through the defense.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: So I yet ye, that to me, though, is the
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: is what makes John special. I watch all these these
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: cut ups, this tape, the highlight reels, the change of
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: direction ability is what makes him different. I mean, I
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: haven't seen a guy like that cut on a dime
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: in an instant in a while. And so obviously everything's
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: going to be Baker Mayfield, Baker Mayfield, whatever else. I'm
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: really interested to see what this offense looks like because
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: you've seen what Oklahoma can do with someone who's an
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: elite dual threat, whether it be Kyler or even Jalen,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: and it's been shown proof of cons our. Buckle knows
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: how to capitalize on this guy's strengths. So He's a
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: really interesting case study. And yeah, the Baker Mayfield comps
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: are easy, but I personally am very interested to see
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: how he stacks up with some of these other story
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: transfer quarterbacks we talk about in Oklahoma's lore.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: That is the thing for me there Where does he
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Where is he gonna end up in this? Like, I don't.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I can't put a prediction out there now. I need to,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: of course see him play before we get to that point.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: But he has an opportunity to be up there if
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: he plays like he played at Washington State here. And
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: it's funny because I've had so many people say, oh, well,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: little the competentention he's playing against, and this is that
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: and the other. So I can't ward pull up that
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: same stuff next year whenever he left Washington State at
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the two years he did it there in the ACC.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: We've seen quarterbacks in the SEC do this. I mean, honestly,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Peyton Thorn has does this all the time. He runs
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: a lot for Auburn. The one big thing with him
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: is just the decision making in the end never ends
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: up being the decision making you're supposed to do. Geometier
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: makes the right decisions and turn the ball over a
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: whole bunch. He can end up doing it better than
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: what Thorn was doing when it's come to running around.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of the thing to think about when
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: it comes to talking about Materir And that's why I
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: wanted to bring up the Baker comparisons. Everybody's talking about it.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not, like said, I'm not saying he's him, but
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: at the same time, the similarities are stuff that are
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: very glaring, especially the running style, because you're right when
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: he gets that arm going, I'm just like God, I
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: hate when Baker because I'm a Bucks fan. I hate
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: when Baker doesn't like dog I'm gonna punch it out,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: but they never do. He seems to always hang on
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: to the ball. But now he's gonna actually have people
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: to throw the ball to. I know that we have.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it's another set of wide receivers pull up or whatnot,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: so Giovanni gets it. I wanted to go back to
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: him because I watched a lot of the UAPB tape
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: and like you said before, he'd be catch in his
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: stuff if he was here. Like, he's fast, he's got
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: a big frame, he's young too. I think that's my
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: favorite part is he's young at six ' three. But
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: the last dude we had from you APB that came
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: through here and did some damage was Bradley Right, we had,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: We've seen it. The top receiver in the SCC is
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: a dude that played at Texas A and E Commerce,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Andrew Armstrong at Arkansas. He had the most touchdowns, we
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: at the most yards. I don't think people recognize that
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: that if the talent. Let's talk about this, ck. This
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: is what I want to ask. I want to ask
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: you and coop this because that SAWS might post this
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: and it and the way because you evaluate players. This
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: was intriguing. They said that the reason why a lot
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: of coaches will look at guys at a lower level
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: with production a little bit more than maybe a P
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: four guy without it is because that production can translate
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit better up than a dude that didn't
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: produce in P four. Is that crazy?
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: No, it's not crazy at all. It's kind of the
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: evaluation method in the portal. I tell our board all
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: the time. If you want to know why all these
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: programs are getting FCS and G five players who have
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: produced a lot, it's because they're way more available than
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: all of these power four backups that are supposedly going
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: into the portal and widely wanted. If a guy is
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: leaving a power for program folks and he didn't play
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: a lot, there has to be a reason for that.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: There has to be. Now, it doesn't have to be
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: a bad reason. Maybe guys were just better than him
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: or whatever else, but that is part of the evaluation process.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: If he couldn't play for school X, why can he
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: play for me? Whereas when you have some of these
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: guys with proven tape production and the experience level, the reliability,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: they they've taken a beating at the collegiate level, so
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: you know they can kind of withstand it while producing
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: at a high level. Not only are they more plenty
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: and available, but man, you're you're going to be way
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: more optimistic about relying on a guy who's been there,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: done that, and has been leaned on in those biggest
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: moments rather than someone you're kind of taking a flyer
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: on from the backup rank somewhere else. So, Yeah, there
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: are a lot of different opinions on this, and koub
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I would be interested to hear your take, but for me,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: it's number one common sense. There's way more of these
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: guys out there fuss so many they're just there's just
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: naturally going to be more guys looking to elevate their
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: play rather than go somewhere else or drop down. And
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: those are the players that you're going to be interested
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: in because you have seen it with your own eyes.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: You know what it's supposed to look like whenever they
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: get to your campus.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Loo get past this to you, Koop in a second.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I also wanted to add in that the best point
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: you made there is readily available, because if a dude
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: is very productive at their school, his school's probably going
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: to try to pay him to get him of stay.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Like if Nick didn't get hurt and he played off
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: season down the list of all those receivers, they probably
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: still be on the roster this year. Them leaving is
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: more of a we'll have to replace that production. Wait, yeah,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: we gotta replace that reproduction. We didn't have any production
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: last season, so it kind of happens real quick. Kevin,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for the Ford ninety nine Sarkas residency.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Regular season coach can't coach big games. I don't know
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: BV can either. LSU owned us and we owned Bama.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Look it was just kind of a craziness with that.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: And he also adds five bucks here for Berks is
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: gonna have a monster year and the receivers we have
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: committed are going to be great. I like to see
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: a stud online. And lastly, as how much money do
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: we have left? I heard we started seventeen million. Wide
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: receivers are easy to come by. I don't know what
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: the nil looks like, to be honest, rumor has it
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: we had seventeen? I've heard twenty five. I've heard that
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: this was the one year that we were gonna spend
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: probably close to thirty. I don't know. I'm not even
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: gonna even jump into that because no one's gonna ever
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: give you a straight answer. Everybody's going to look at
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: me like, oh, it's this number, it's that number. But anyway, cool,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: how'd you feel about What do you think about that theory?
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I have that that that's someone that pointed out to
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: me before.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when it comes time to a wide receiver,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: like it doesn't matter, you know what the competition is
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: that he's running against. Like Listen, I was dead wrong
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: about the guys that Texas brought in. Uh, I did
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: not think that, you know, the the two guys that
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: they brought in just a golden and I didn't think
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Bond was gonna, you know, be anything. And and listen,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: it's they didn't have somebody who was being spoken for
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: on the Blittnikov. But it is one of those things
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: where I just want to I want to see people
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: who know how to go out there, run a route.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: The only thing I don't see in his in his uh,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: in his film is tenacity on the blocking stuff. And
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: you know that's that's something that it's mandatory, it's a
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: it's an it's a non negotiable h on this team.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: So but you know, what did we say from blocking standpoint,
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: just go out there and at least get in someone's way.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Just go out there and don't try to blast them
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: and with and you know, don't try to you know,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: do do it, do too much? I mean, just do enough,
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: do your job. And so, man, I love Jovanni Gibson.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: I hate it for Toby Rowan because he's going to
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: have j Gibb and Jay Gibb and so we're gonna
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: have to come up. You know, we got Jaylen Williams,
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Jalen Williams for the thunder. So we've got to come
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: up with something here. I you know, I don't know
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: because I know Jay Gibbs probably got some kind of
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: a nickname on the team. But I digress. So you
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: got these two big guys, you still have Kernie, you
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: still have carry On. You know, You've got some big bodies,
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: and then you also have, you know a few smaller guys.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: So I would rather go out and get somebody because
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of like you like you guys were
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: talking about, is if we go out and get somebody
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: from North Carolina who had a eleven catches for two
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: hundred and one yards and a touchdown this year? Like again,
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: what if you weren't starting at North Carolina? Like what
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: are you doing here? Like you know what? Like, yeah,
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: there's nobody in front of you. But at the same time,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: like you know, you gotta look. You gotta kind of
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: look at those situations. Who's out in front of them?
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Do they have is Ohio State? Because if you're like
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: the fifth guy on the bench at Ohio State, sure
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: I'll sure as he'll take you because you're most likely
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: a five star or high four star receiver.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you all a question. Coop, I'm
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: gonna kick it to you first. Maybe this proves my point. Okay,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: who are you more excited about Giovanni Gibson from the
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Swack or Luke Baclenko from Stanford who's from the Power
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: for by the way, And.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: So I say this is I feel like, I feel
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: like the wide receivers this year didn't have I'll just
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: go this way. I think the Walter Raws thing makes
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: that harder because you're, like, we just saw a proof
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: of concept Walter rals come in. He you know, he
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: was a solid offensive lineman the whole entire year. He
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: had his you know, one shining moment in the Texas
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: game where he blocks two guys with one with each hand,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: and like that's why we remember from him. But he
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: wasn't like he wasn't an All Pro. He wasn't in
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: an All Conference or anything like that. So watching this
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: offensive line, like, I'm one that believes that we really
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: didn't need anybody else. I think that with the development
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: the guys that are coming through, So I'm excited more
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: about this guy. And I don't think that the Travis
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Hunter komp you know, hey, he also came out of
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: an HBCU, Like, I don't really like that because Travis
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Hunter was a five star that was probably supposed to
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: go to Florida State without Dion. But this is a
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: guy who's gone out there and it's not like he
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: had two games in the season where he had like
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: twelve catches for two hundred and eleven yards and they
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: did nothing against anybody else, like it was consistent production.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Ooh, that one is a tough one though, Cuz, but
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Klinko gets me excited Walter Roles situation, while at the
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: same time provides us with some additional depth with that
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: that's got experienced a lot of snaps, but it's nothing
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: against him. I'm really excited about seeing Fasus, Fasuci and
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Foge and see if they could actually work their way
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: into the rotation.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: That kind of got my attention a little bit more.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I think I'm more excited about uh Giovanni because we've
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: been seeing these wide receivers from like the Swack find
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: their way up into the P four and do do stuff.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, had Colorado had a few dudes that makes
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: you like, Okay, if you find the right ones with
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: enough dog in them, might be work it worth it
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Plus he also comes from the same city as Kean Coleman.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: You know, all them dudes is crazy over there Louisiana.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: So oh yeah, that's what makes it tough. So that
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: base I'm gonna say Giovanni because I know that he's
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be a dog, but Klinko probably gonna take some refinement,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: but I think he'll be solid contributor. I think Giovanni
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: can end up being one of the top receivers in
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: the SEC.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: And guys, let's let's let's not act like you can
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: go up and down the NFL rosters and find top
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: notch wide receivers that weren't P four guys, you know,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: and not only today, but five years ago, ten years ago,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: fifteen years ago, Randy Moss, Tarrell Owens, you know, Cooper Cup.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: There's all these different guys who are out there. I mean,
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: let's let's let's be honest, like, you know, we just
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: need the guy to come in here and run the
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: route that was called, run it how it was called.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: And when it's your turn to block block and uh so,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: I mean this what you know, I'll throw this one,
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: this last one out here. I don't think Giovanni Gibson
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: is a very big end around guy, especially uh you know,
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: with smaller guys blocking, so at least we won't see that.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Get I get.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I still want to punch. I punched the
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: air every time I think about that. How the hell
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: do you run? How do you run end around or
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: just a quick pass screened to a wide receiver of
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Jacob George caliber, with Zion Raging as your lead blocker?
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: How do you do that? Who? Who thinks to do that?
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: I I believe it was the Rose Bowl against Georgia where,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, Lincoln called and end around to
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Jordan's Smallwood and Smallwood got destroyed Deroyd, and that night
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: on the field, I vowed to hate the jet sweep
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: and around concept with every fiber of my being, specifically
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: in short yard and situations. That's the one thing in
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: football that will get me to throw my remote at
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: the television, the one thing. But I think I hate that.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: I hate that concept, man, It's so ridiculous.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: I think that the reason why they ran it against
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Georgia is because he scored a touchdown against Ohio State
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: earlier in the year the year before on the same
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: exact play, so uh, man, the stuff that we remember.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: But like it's just trauma.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: It's trauma. It's trauma. Just say the trauma that we've
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: gone through. It's okay.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: I think I think the small Wood one against Ohio
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: State was kind of like the all right, we're not
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: losing this game touchdown. So I mean, yeah, it's I
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: don't mind it with a fast guy. I don't mind
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: it with a Dion Burks. Dion Burks is a guy
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: who I think can run through tackles. He's fast enough
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: to run around tackles. But let's be honest, is if
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: the guy's you know, handtel hits Zion Reagan's, he might
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: fall over. Like so let's not you know, let's let's
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: you know, if we're gonna do something to him, let's pop,
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: have it be a stand up, throw it straight out
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: and let him work one on one facing the receiver
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: and that's or or send him deep like that. Those
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: are the things I want to see with Reagan's until
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: you know he bulkes up a little bit.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: You can't be calling those plays when you're some of
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: your receivers could literally get pushed over by the wind.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: That's just my perspective on it. I just guys are
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: too small right now to be the lead blockers in
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: those situations. But look, going to that question, the reason
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: I bring it up, power for fcs, whatever else. I
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: watch a lot of tape the other day on but Clinko,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: I'm talking a lot of tape. I don't think he
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: is remotely close to what Walter Rouse is. I think
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Walter Rouse was a guaranteed NFL draft pick before getting
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: to Oklahoma. I struggle with this because on one hand,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think but Clinko was close to what Rowse
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: was when he got to Norman from Stanford. But but
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Clinko is someone who's a little bit younger, and he
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: has an experience, so like he's got a long road
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: ahead of him. And that's why I think there's a
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: debate because on the flip side, Jevanni Gibson's got two
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: seasons of eligibility as well. He is coming from the
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: lower ranks. But I mean, the guy was first team
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: All Swack. I believe at one point in the season
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: he led all the SWACK in receiving yards, receptions, touchdown
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: through the air. Guy was balling out. There's that level
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: of variance between these two that I do think kind
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: of illustrates how these labels between level of ball usually
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: doesn't end up mattering at the end of the day.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: It's really about what you bring to the table, and
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: I think there is a debate about what some of
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: these guys coming to Norman are bringing to the table.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the question. I mean, we're trying to
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: figure out are we bringing in dues. It's gonna be
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: productive because I mean, truth betowd. We go back to
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: some of the other players we had that we brought
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: in as transfers. You haven't seen a bunch of god.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, Andrew Anthony was about to explode until the
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: injury happened, and now I honestly have not seen anything
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: on him since he went into the portal. That kind
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: of hurts my feeling a little bit, but at the
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: same time makes sense. But we haven't We need to
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: see dudes that have gotten production and now we're talking
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: to guys that have put up actual numbers. So I
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: guess the question is gonna be who do you think
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: we could Who do you think we have in consideration
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: now left at wide receiver because we've got what two
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: wide receivers that have transferred in. We're probably gonna get
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: two more. What are you feeling out there?
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: I think so. I know that they will take three.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: I think the debate has been do they take four?
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Because if you think about it, that had six scholarship
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: guys leave. Yep, they're bringing in two from the freshman
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: ranks in Emmanuel Choice and Elijah Thomas. I know that
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: they're going through all the roster turnover and things of
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: that nature, with the cap and everything. It's a really
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: weird situation at Receiver. You've got Isaiah Satania from Arkansas.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I personally believe that one's in prime position to get
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: done soon if everything I have been told leading up
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: to the visit is true, and then the visit goes
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: the way I think it's gonna go. I think Satannian
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma makes a ton of sense. DeVante Ross from Troy
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: is someone who I've heard that they love, but he
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: didn't make it to campus. To my knowledge, I heard
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: that a visit may be getting rescheduled. I don't know
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: the latest, obviously with everything that's been going on today
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: on that front, but I know they like him a lot.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: You have Juran Bradley floating out there, who I think
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: would be a really nice role player.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm curious about, is him. Yeah, that's Jones guy.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: That that is a a Emmett Jones guy. And look
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: for what it's worth. Man having Ann to De Soto
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: High School in Texas isn't the worst thing either. And
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: they they love Joran Bradley. I love Joran when he
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: was at the Soto. I just also the counter argument
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: would be, does a player like Joran become repetitive when
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: you have Geovanni Gibson coming in and Jaden Gibson in place.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: I mean you're talking two big outside threat type of
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: wide receivers. I don't know. I just it might be
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a skill set on skill set
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: on skill set thing up for debate. There are other
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: receivers out there, obviously, and they're gonna have to navigate
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: this thing effectively. But I think Satania makes the most sense.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Ross feels like the wild card and then Bradley supplemental
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: to this point, depending on the way that everything else
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: kind of shakes out. That's how I see it currently.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, can we get Deuce Robinson? Can we get him
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: a tidi end?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Please? He doesn't play tight end. He's pretty clearly wide receiver.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Who would you guys want, Like, who of the receiver
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: group that's out there do y'all want? Because I know
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of debate about the priorities the rest
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: of the receiver room.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Saitanya is is the one that I want
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: to see pop next. I think that he is. Uh,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: he makes a ton of sense. I Jim Bradley was
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: really really big leaving out of Texas Tech, and that
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: was a big pickup. He was a big portal entry.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: It's not as big anymore. So so I wonder with
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: bringing in Bradley, is you got the two Jay Gibson's
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: assuming they're both healthy, right, because we're gonna get in.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: Note that conversation too, is like all right now with
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: limited numbers, you know, what are you gonna do here?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: You know again, I don't think that the Branch Brothers
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: are in play, so I'm gonna I'm going to dismiss
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: that piece. So whatever you hear on the Branch Brothers,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: I mean until until you see us starting to go
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: crazy on the Internet's you know about Zion Branch. You know,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: let's let's just pocket that for right now. But uh,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: with Jaron Brandley, Like I get we have a couple
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: of different guys that have that body type. So I'm wondering,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: you know, do they go for somebody because I think
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: we need a punt returner too, So which one of
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: the guys gives you the best at punt returner? Because
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just gonna be honest with you, Like
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: I love Peyton Bowen and all, but like it got
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: to one of those deals to where it was like
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: hold your breath every single day time that he was
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: back there returning punts. And now that he's going to be,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: you know, most likely the full time starter of safety,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: let's get his butt out of there, even though the
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: room's deep. I just I just don't want to see
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: somebody get hurt. Hashtag DeMarco Murray on special teams.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: You know, so you just like opening up old wounds,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: don't with you? Both of y'all, just like just just
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: get the scab going here and thanks. I appreciate it.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: No for me, honestly, if I was it, Isaiah certain
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I think he's probably the one. It's it feels like
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: he would probably be the one. Dame Key is one
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: I wish we would go after. I know it's an
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: absurd thought that do boss every seas he's productive. He's
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: been productive every season he's been in college football in
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: the SEC. That's the type of player you really want
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: because he's gonna get your production. Regardless he may pop
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: off and he's out. What one year left? We got
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: the young pupps that we need to get prepped, the
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: ready to go. Like I would love to see Elijah
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Thomas get some run. Definitely many choice is gonna be
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: your next Jay and Gibson to me that he's gonna
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: have He's gonna have some, he's gonna scale up over
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: time and by his third year pop off. I want
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: to see more Zion Kearney. I need to. I need
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: him to be able to have some space to do things.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: But dang key would be a nasty addition to this room.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: I'll give you. I'll give you a little intel because
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: we're having a good time, and why not, right I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: think the player that no one is talking about that
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: I had a note on the other day as soon
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: as illustrated, I made a call to someone in the
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: camp of Chris Hudson, formerly of Washington State, and their
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: direct verbiage was, we know that Mattei is visiting Oklahoma
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: this week. Chris wants to see what happens with that
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: situation and if Mateer goes to Oklahoma, if that deal
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: gets done. The day that I had called the folks
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: in Chris Hudson's camp, they were talking to Oklahoma a
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: few hours prior to that call and a visit. It
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: felt like at least could be something on the table.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: So Chris Hudson's not getting talked about at all. I mean,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: coming out of that phone call, I was like, this
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: could be another name that makes a lot of sense
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: for them.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: And and and you know what, uh did you did?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: We d M back and forth about that one because
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like you're the I feel
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: like we already had this conversation. But yeah, it's h
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Hudson is one that you immediately have a comfort factor.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: Somebody from Washington State, somebody that he you know, material
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: is healthy with, I mean healthy relationship with, so like
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: you've got that built in go to. It doesn't mean
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: he doesn't have to be you know, Megatron, he doesn't
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: have to be uh, you know, Jeremiah Smith or anything
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: like that, because like Drake Stoops was the comfort blanket
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: for Dylan Gabriel last year. And so if you can
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: bring in Chris Hudson, Yeah, I mean that's that's a
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: take all day long.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: At that defensive side. Ethan O'Connor, I feel like we
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: may as well go after some of these Washington State players.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: We've seen him be productive. Heck, why not? Right, Like,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: if you've seen the dudes all take work together with
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: each other, why not bring a few of them with you.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Kurt Signetti over there at Indiana bringing
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: all them dudes from James Madison and then going eleven
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: and one in a season Like, who objects? Please object
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: to me? To us talking about that part because we
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: just watched a dude do it in the Big Ten. Now,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: it wasn't the best performance against Ohio State in the end,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: they couldn't close. They started off well, but still eleven
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: and one dudes from James mans most of his dudes
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: coming from up there, Ethan connor. He went to he visited,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: left went to Miami, but he's still doing visits.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Colorado is in the mix there.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, he's going to Colorado next. That's where he's headed.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: And a few other schools out there. I believe Ucla
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: was in the mix as well, and that's only notable
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: because he was once committed to UCLA but then some
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: stuff happened late in his recruitment that kind of led
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: to that falling through, and that's how he actually ended
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: up at Washington State to begin with. Was like a
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: late pivot in his high school recruiting process. So I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: think the Bruins may be working on him as well.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: But I mean, Oklahoma was really confident whenever he was visiting,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: and then he goes to Miami to visit out there,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: I feel like he's still very realistic for them. But
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: you got Miami and Colorado in the mix, like those
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: are two arguably you just don't want to see. We're
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: going toe to toe with people for transfer guys, So.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. And it looks like Chris Hudson announcements
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: he's transfer to Arizona on his Instagram forty some minutes ago.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a good get for them, man, that's a
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: big gift for them.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: That is a good get. Darn we missed out on
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: that one. That would that would have been a fun one.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: But speaking of Arizona, can we get Davis I'm just
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: gonna throw that name out there. I just want the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: carrier Davis out there. I know he's probably going pro.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: It makes only sense for him to go to the league.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Even though he entered the portal. Why can't we get him?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: That's who I got a six or fourth corner in
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: the SEC. Hey, you spend one year. This is the
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: one year you can spend it. Find some millionaire that's
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: got some money and say, hey man, we need to
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: hold two and a half. We use a portion of
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: that on Davis. We used the other portion on somebody
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: on offensive line or whatever else you need. But I
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: want him as corner in the SEC. He would be
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: so much fun to watch playing in the SEC. Yeah,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: that is That's probably the wildest name of any of them.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Would actually want to talk about Kevin. Thanks for the
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: five bucks. She looking at all the studs at Washington State.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: They had what that big offensive lineman that hit the portal.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a freak show, dude. I mean, that guy
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: is a monster. I don't I don't want to say
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: that they are a firm contender for him, but I
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: also feel like saying they're not gonna at least get
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: in the mix would be unfair to the situation, if
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: that makes sense, you know, with everything we know now,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: at least make a phone call would be my stance
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: on that.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm hearing that some of the money that
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: because I'm not gonna even try to say his name,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: some of the money that he's going to be commanding.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's it's going to be. It's going to
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  Speaker 3: be quite a bit up there now after this season.
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  Speaker 3: I know that everybody in this chat and everybody across
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  Speaker 3: the board says, if it you, I mean, if it's
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  Speaker 3: an extra five hundred thousand dollars and it brings us
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  Speaker 3: two extra wins, let's go, Because I mean, that's it,
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  Speaker 3: and I'll promise you this is That's why that question
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: that popped up earlier, Like I heard that we started
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  Speaker 3: out with seventeen million dollars. Like that's the thing about
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  Speaker 3: it is there's not really a budget there. So if
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  Speaker 3: a big time offensive lineman really came and said, hey,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: you know, this is kind of what I want and
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: there was a couple of donor calls that needed to happen,
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  Speaker 3: I think defensive and offensive line are two places that
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  Speaker 3: the donors would you know, Pony up a little bit
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  Speaker 3: extra money too.
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  Speaker 2: I want to say, real quick, man, Georgia Tech's Corey
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  Speaker 2: Robinson coming in on Thursday. It's a big deal, folks,
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  Speaker 2: It's a big deal. I think they've got a real
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: shot at him.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm I guess somebody had said that he deleted
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: the uh that that that tweet, and then I know
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: I kind of shared something behind the scenes with you guys,
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  Speaker 3: Like I mean, don't be surprised if somebody says, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 3: don't really need a visit like I'm in, like, let's
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: let's let's roll so And that's not just with him,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: that could be any of these guys.
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  Speaker 1: I would like that, can we just get some people
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  Speaker 1: to just go ahead and keep because if anything, that
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  Speaker 1: just shuts up the fan base and all the chatter
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: online which I've had to get myself off line specifically,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: we've been losing their minds about all those processes, and
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: I get it in a way, it ain't easy not knowing.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I would like to say
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  Speaker 1: this one thing before Cek, I asked you this last
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: question and you get you on to your evening real
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  Speaker 1: quick though, everybody watching on the stream, thank you out
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: for pulling up hit the like button and all of
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: that jazz. But I need you try to understand something.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: If we're tampering, you're not supposed to know that. Only
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: stupid people would make sure that fans and people on
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: the outside know that this stuff is happening. Why because
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: if they get caught and the paper trail goes back,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: guess what happens. We all get wet in trouble. And
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: that's the one thing you don't want. So you gotta
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: move in silence, like Lasaigna, like the g in Lasagna.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: You gotta just move in silence. People, c K. What
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: do you feel like is the most important spot we
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: need to go after going forward now that we're starting
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: to see some of the snowball effect when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to this offensive line, I mean the think portal itself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think, and I'll shure my answer and
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: then get out of it because my laptop may die
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: at any moment. But I figure I am always going
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: to come from a place of you invest in the
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  Speaker 2: front five because this is where I'm at with this.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: The receiver is a given, like they're going to get
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of pass catchers, and I feel like we
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  Speaker 2: kind of know who that's gonna be. But if you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna invest all this money into a quarterback, into an
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator and some of these pass catchers, you've got
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: to be able to run the ball. You have to
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: be able to protect and let that offense flow, and
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: it starts on the line of scrimmage. I have talked
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: about Corey Robinson as someone who you're talking about one
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: of the highest graded pass protectors in all of college football.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: And he's a one year rental. Yes, but not only
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: is that the blind side protector potentially if you can
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: get him for your extremely valuable quarterback. The other part
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: of this too, that I've kind of taken the stance on,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: is like, you get a guy like that one, you're
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: rental his mentorship to younger players like Michael Fassousi, Logan
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: Holland that's impact beyond his years. You have the Washington
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: State guy out there, you have Derek Simmons from Western Carolina.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of offensive line options and there will
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: be more in the portal for me going forward. Now
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: that you have your quarterback, you're filling out the rest
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: of that offensive unit. I really believe that buying into
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: the offensive line and establishing your line of scrimmage for
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: this new look offenses is going to determine the way
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: thing the next season go. So anyway, I'm gonna get
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: out of here because batteries.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Look appreciate you pulling up. Man, Thank you so much
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: for joining us. We'll chop it up later.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: It's fun, guys.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna wrap this bad boy up at a
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: bone and coop. What a day.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, not seeing anything else tonight, that's
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: that's probably uh, that's probably big deal. But again, like
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: just going back to the Chris Hudson like, yeah, we
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: didn't even know that he had already you know, forty
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: minutes ago committed to Arizona. Like let's you know, just
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: pump the brakes again. You know, if Mateer and him
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: are still talking, and that's something that this staff wants
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: Materier to you know, pursue. I think that's a conversation
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: that still can have. It still can happen. But yeah,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: I mean this is exciting. I mean this is what
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: we were We were asking everybody for patients, right and
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: will we ever know all of the uh all of
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: the you know, things that have gone on with this.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: I mean this, this, this camp has kept everything quiet.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: And I'm talking about Oklahoma like it has been. There
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: has been side of hand, there has been everything you know,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: from you know, flights trackers going to places with empty
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: planes to uh, you know, you know, to the conversations
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: going on like that's the game that we now live in.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: And you know, I think it changes again next year,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: but right now you got to feel much better because
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: you have hope on the offensive side of the ball,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: and you know, now we've got to proven concept for defense,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: and so it's it's let's see you let's see what
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: our buckle and these guys can do. Because I do
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: I believe that this offense is going to go out
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: and throw up forty two, forty three points a game.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: You know again, I think it's way too early to
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: you know, say something like that, and it'd be fool
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: hardy to even you know, bring that in. But can
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: this offense score thirty points a game? I think so,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, you bring in it, you know, a bunch
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: of new stuff. Now the offensive line's got to come
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: through too. But man, this is exciting. You know, we
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: talk about this Bowl game coming up too, and it's
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: almost like, hey, listen, the practices are more important. But
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: hopefully we'll have some more bowl game coverage or both
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: practice coverage coming up, because I mean, what do we
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: nine days away from the bowl game too?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Oh man, we are almost there. We get to talk
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: about that. We have to talk about football and everything else.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: But the beauty of it is now Coop. We gotta
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: says the quarterback. We're gonna sleep peacefully tonight. We are
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: and I want to put that on the screen. C K.
• 1:17:05
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• 1:17:08
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• 1:17:21
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• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: gonna some rest, no stream on Sunday. We're gonna enjoy
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: the weekend off. I'm gonna go take some time off
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: for a few days and then we'll be back strong
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: after Christmas. Probably because Christmas is on a Wednesday, it is.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: On a Wednesday, week from today.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: It is a week from today, so probably won't stream
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: on Christmas unless Coop is getting a breakaway from the kids.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: I listen Christmas night, I probably could use the stream. Yeah,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: all of our stuff's usually usually wrapped up by around
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: noon or something like that. So uh, typically it's just
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: uh bourbon barbecue and and uh and relaxation watching some
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: TV in the afternoon on Christmas Day. But I'll probably
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: be putting together Legos Star Wars Legos for most of
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: the day on Christmas. So yeah, I mean let's let's
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: we'll have a talk offline. But yeah, there's still more.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: There's still more to come, guys, so uh, you know,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: stay tuned and you know, just sit back. I mean,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: you know, and at this point, it's it's what can
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: you know, what other pieces can we get? And I
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: think that you know, we're we're paying out money. It
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: sounds like the the the package that we had for
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: Materier initially. Uh we even gave them a little bit more.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: And so I mean it's this, this program's not broke.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: The donors are showing up, and we want to see
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: what it's like when we are at our best, you know,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: in the SEC because that wasn't what we were able
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: to put out on the field this year. So just
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: more exciting and just keep on rolling.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, We'll let y'all know, just keep your
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: eyes open on the social media's we'll have it posted
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: and where we're gonna be at, and yeah, we'll chop
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: it up with y'all later. Payce, good night.