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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 20 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, December. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now a
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  Speaker 1: guy who believes cracking makes the best Calamari j Peace Shadrack.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: My name's J. P. Shadrick. We have a busy show
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  Speaker 1: as always on Monday. Of course, CBS Sports senior writer
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  Speaker 1: Pete Frisco joining us. Pride of the Jaguars. Left tackle
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  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is nearby. We'll hear from him soon. The
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  Speaker 1: Urban Meyer aftermath continues, in fact, reviewing Week fifteen, the
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  Speaker 1: Texans over the Jaguars thirty to sixteen the final score.
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  Speaker 1: The Jags are number one in the draft water next year.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to that, of course, social media questions and
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  Speaker 1: around the NFL and Week fifteen, Welcome in again. A
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  Speaker 1: wild week, of course with the Jacksonville Jaguars that started
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  Speaker 1: truly last Saturday, NFL media reports about tension between the players,
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  Speaker 1: the staff, and head coach Urban Meyer, and then the
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  Speaker 1: next day a twenty nothing loss at Tennessee. Last Monday,
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  Speaker 1: Jacks owner Shot con was meeting with select media members
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  Speaker 1: on the eve of the tenth anniversary of ownership, so
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  Speaker 1: he was out in the media with a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things going on. NFL owners meetings in Dallas Tuesday and Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Times article released Wednesday afternoon, but in reality
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  Speaker 1: the wheels had been in motion, and then Thursday at
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  Speaker 1: twelve thirty nine am the announcement that Meyer was fired.
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  Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday preparation under interim head coach Darryl Bevil,
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  Speaker 1: and then Saturday at five pm Meyer speaking with Ian
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  Speaker 1: Rappaport of NFL Media, apologizing to Jacksonville, denying accusations against
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  Speaker 1: him in the final days. And then Sunday, a loss
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  Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans with a third round rookie quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in Houston and a handful of starters out for the
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  Speaker 1: Texans with COVID nineteen special teams issues, dropped some few
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  Speaker 1: big plays on offense. Interim head coach Darryl Bevil after
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  Speaker 1: the game, you know, it really what really ends up
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  Speaker 1: being a normal week. I mean, we're used to all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of things that change, and so we have to
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  Speaker 1: be ready to um to make adjustments and uh and
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  Speaker 1: and be able to adapt to the situation and thought
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  Speaker 1: our guys, whether it was the players or the coaches,
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  Speaker 1: did a good job putting a plan together. Um, the
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  Speaker 1: guys were the guys were ready, they were into it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: we just didn't play a clean football game today. That's
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  Speaker 1: Darryl Bevil of course. Pete Presco joining us now CBS
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  Speaker 1: Sports senior writer, And a good afternoon, Pete. What a
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  Speaker 1: week it's been. Man. Where where's the big fellow? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. He's apparently nearby. He said he's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a few minutes behind. He had something going on and
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  Speaker 1: he'll be in here. Well, maybe it's having that needing
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  Speaker 1: to try and become the general manager. I see that.
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  Speaker 1: You think that's what they haven't even got. They haven't
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  Speaker 1: even got rid of the new gentleman. The old gentleman.
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  Speaker 1: He's already sniffing around. It's a cold business. You like
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  Speaker 1: stirring it up, Pete, I know how you do. I
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  Speaker 1: sure do, boy, I started up for a while, didn't I. Look. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I was not surprised he
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  Speaker 1: got fired. Uh should he have been fired? Yes, he
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  Speaker 1: should have been fired. Um. How many different ways did
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  Speaker 1: I say it without really saying it? I mean I
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  Speaker 1: said no, I said said yeah, I said it. I
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  Speaker 1: I just think that the whole thing got out of control,
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  Speaker 1: and it's it's unfair, Like I went on my my
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  Speaker 1: rant last week, it's unfair to the fans to have
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  Speaker 1: this happen again, and you can't allow it to happen again.
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  Speaker 1: So now he's gone. Uh, they have to go find
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  Speaker 1: the right guy to build this thing around that quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: And and the quarterback has regressed. And I watched the
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  Speaker 1: tape today and he missed some throws, and his mechanics
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  Speaker 1: have waned, and his feet aren't great, and like the
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  Speaker 1: throw to Marvin Jones in the end zone should have
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  Speaker 1: been a touchdown, and his aiming, his feet were bad,
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  Speaker 1: his aiming point was bad. There's all these little things
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  Speaker 1: that have gone wrong with him. And so I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a combination of a bunch of different reasons why.
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  Speaker 1: But now you move forward and find the guy to
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  Speaker 1: fix them, find the guy to to build it around him,
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  Speaker 1: And I think they can. I think there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of good offensive coaches out there. Uh, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of smart people out there, and I think they can
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  Speaker 1: find the right guy. Don't get caught up in name,
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  Speaker 1: don't get caught up in name. That's all I have
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  Speaker 1: to say. They've played that game before. Look, they played
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  Speaker 1: at this time Urban Meyer, the name, the name of
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  Speaker 1: the name. Clearly, Um, this was a mistake, and I
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  Speaker 1: think Sean Kot admitted his mistake by firing him. And
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  Speaker 1: now you move on. But not a good look for
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  Speaker 1: this franchise. Laughing stock again. Hate to say it, but
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  Speaker 1: it is laughing stock franchise. Everybody around the league laughing
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  Speaker 1: at him. How could they do this? How could the
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  Speaker 1: same thing happen over and over again? What do you
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  Speaker 1: do to fix it? Who? Who does Seankhn consult with?
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  Speaker 1: That's a good question, uh, because I don't think Trent
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  Speaker 1: Ball he's gonna be back. I just don't. So you
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  Speaker 1: can't rely on him. And so what do you do?
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  Speaker 1: Who do you rely on? Who do you lean on?
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  Speaker 1: Who do you call for advice? That's the million dollar
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  Speaker 1: question right now, because I don't think Shod Khan can
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  Speaker 1: do it himself. That's a big question for sure. Pete
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  Speaker 1: Priska with us Tony Boselli coming up here on Jaguar's
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour. How about the aftermath of this the last
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  Speaker 1: few days, all the stories and interviews and things that
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  Speaker 1: are happening with the urban and you know, try this
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  Speaker 1: football team is trying to move forward and get some
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  Speaker 1: things done. They didn't play obviously well on Sunday. It's
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  Speaker 1: just a lot flying around right now, including Tony Boselli,
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  Speaker 1: including walking through the rocking right in front of the camera.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Donty, don't worry about us. We're just doing
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  Speaker 1: a show here. Welcome to the show, Tony. Well, this
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  Speaker 1: show is much better now that I'm here, Pete. Less
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  Speaker 1: of you, more of me. How did it? How did
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  Speaker 1: it go? Tony? How do the interview go for the
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  Speaker 1: GM job to go? Well? That was the meeting you
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  Speaker 1: were at, right, Are you gonna give me a no? No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: He was chopping and he was chopping a tree down.
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  Speaker 1: It's cold. Look at jacket, he's got it. Yeah. Your
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  Speaker 1: lumberjack today is what it is. He started Christmas Jack.
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  Speaker 1: Is it cold? It's freezing outside. Yeah, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to rub it. It was eighty two today here, so
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  Speaker 1: it's not bad. Yeah. I was. It was eighty two
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  Speaker 1: over the weekend here and I was on the boat
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  Speaker 1: hanging out. Now it's cold, Pete, And I've become a Florida.
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  Speaker 1: I've become a Floridian, like I don't like the cold.
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  Speaker 1: Don't like cold, neither do I. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: speaking of cold, uh, they got a cold body out
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  Speaker 1: of it the other day. And then I mean, my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: they cleaned it out and I got tony. I said already,
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  Speaker 1: I said, they gave him. I give shod Koh credit
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  Speaker 1: for admitting his mistake. He deserves the merits for making
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  Speaker 1: the mistake, but he admitted it, and that's that's the
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  Speaker 1: best decision for the franchise. He made, made the decision
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  Speaker 1: to get rid of that guy. And look how many
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  Speaker 1: different ways did we say it on here or I
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  Speaker 1: did anyway, he's you never said it, but I did
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  Speaker 1: um that he had to go. Well, Pete, I think
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  Speaker 1: you bring up a really good point, and I'm sorry
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  Speaker 1: I missed a couple of first couple of minutes. Is
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  Speaker 1: that that's not that was not an easy decision for
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  Speaker 1: shot And I know, like for the fans and even
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  Speaker 1: us and what we do, and people are like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: just fine, just get rid of him, like that's like
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  Speaker 1: the easy button, Like we think it's easy, Like we'll
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  Speaker 1: just get rid of him. He's a bad coach, he's
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  Speaker 1: not doing a bad job or whatever. But if you, like,
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  Speaker 1: I would challenge all of us and anyone listening, like
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  Speaker 1: put yourself in shots shoes, I mean number one. And
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  Speaker 1: yes he got it wrong. That's never like no one
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  Speaker 1: ever wants to admit you got it wrong, and especially
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  Speaker 1: when you invest a lot of time and money and energy,
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  Speaker 1: like there's I always try to remind people it's like
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  Speaker 1: Shot Cohn wants to win, like that's the goal, Like
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  Speaker 1: he is, like he is trying his best. Now you
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  Speaker 1: could argue that it's not worked, it's not been the
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  Speaker 1: right hall, that's fine, but don't question the desire and
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  Speaker 1: the investment to try to win and what impressed me
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  Speaker 1: about the situation, because that's a hard decision because he
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  Speaker 1: like this was his higher and there was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of excitement about it, and it was a big higher,
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  Speaker 1: and there was a lot of investment into it into
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  Speaker 1: make the call he did last week and the way
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  Speaker 1: he did it and the timing and how swift he
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  Speaker 1: was and decisive. That's not easy to do. I don't
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  Speaker 1: care what anyone says and like, oh he was a
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  Speaker 1: bad guy and you have cause this or whatever, blah blah, blah.
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  Speaker 1: There's an emotion, there's an emotional side to it, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Pete. I applaud shot. It was a
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  Speaker 1: tough decision. It was the right decision in my mind
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  Speaker 1: and in my opinion, But that doesn't make it easy.
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  Speaker 1: When you're the guy who has to do it and
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  Speaker 1: you have a lot of emotion and money and time
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  Speaker 1: invested into that individual, it'll be it'll be an easier
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  Speaker 1: decision if they get the honey money. They don't have
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  Speaker 1: to pay the money out for cause, and it's an
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  Speaker 1: easy decision. Really well, I don't know if it's easy,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, Pete, you still make emotion. Remember how
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  Speaker 1: big a deal it was when he was what's an
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  Speaker 1: ego thing too? You look bad. It looks bad for
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  Speaker 1: the organization. Hiring has not been right. His hiring his
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  Speaker 1: head coaches has not been good. Let's be real about it.
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  Speaker 1: It has a been so he thought he had his
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  Speaker 1: guy and he didn't get his guy, and so it's embarrassing.
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  Speaker 1: It's not embarrassing because he's above that. He's too good
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  Speaker 1: a man, he's above being embarrassed. But it's a bad
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  Speaker 1: look for the organization to keep missing on your head
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  Speaker 1: coaches and missed this guy when you think he's the
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  Speaker 1: greatest of the great. He got bamboozled about Urban Meyer.
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  Speaker 1: He got caught up. It's like I always say about players,
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  Speaker 1: it's game, not named, game not named. They got caught
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  Speaker 1: up in the name because clearly that he wasn't any game.
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  Speaker 1: There was there was no game. And I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right. It's not that he's like it's embarrassing,
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  Speaker 1: but you don't. I mean, shot Con did not become
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  Speaker 1: successful or arrive at the success he has as a
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  Speaker 1: business person if he wasn't like uber comp editive, like
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  Speaker 1: the dude likes to win. He wins it everything in life.
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  Speaker 1: Like he is really dangn good at business, like and
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  Speaker 1: like makes tough calls and and like makes the right
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  Speaker 1: call and and so he's competitive. Like that hurts when
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  Speaker 1: you lose and when it's your decision and it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: work out and it impacts. It's not about him be embarrassed.
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  Speaker 1: I mean who it's like when I lost the game,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't embarrassed. I was mad to win. It's about
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  Speaker 1: winning and and that's hard and to admit that and
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  Speaker 1: to cut your losses. Um, I applaud him. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was the right move, like I said, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's time to move forward. I'm glad, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: don't have to talk about that situation any longer because
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  Speaker 1: it was a bad situation. I said it last week,
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  Speaker 1: I said this morning on the show. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying after he I'm saying, after this show, we
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  Speaker 1: won't have to talk about it anymore. Well, there will
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  Speaker 1: be probably be five more things that pop up that
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  Speaker 1: we can about. Oh yeah that's true. Now, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: one quick thing, Tony. The mechanism for getting rid of
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  Speaker 1: them was in place from what I hear before the
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  Speaker 1: Lambo story went public, because they knew about the Lambo story.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think, yes, I don't think that he was
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  Speaker 1: fired because of Josh Lambo's accusation of being kicked and
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  Speaker 1: being called bad names. By the way, there's some people
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  Speaker 1: that would have thought that Josh Lambo was the one
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  Speaker 1: doing a kick. I would say like, and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying it's okay, and j w are you I don't
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  Speaker 1: feel what you're talking about. I know the world's different
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  Speaker 1: that yes, you do. But Pete, we didn't people get
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  Speaker 1: called names all the time when I was playing here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh he get me. I mean, I could go through
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  Speaker 1: a laundry list of things that he did. It's a
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  Speaker 1: different time, Tony, you know that's different. I never I
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  Speaker 1: never got kicked in a day. I never got kicked.
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  Speaker 1: But I said I never got kicked though, No, that
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  Speaker 1: he was more of a verbal warrior than anything. He
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  Speaker 1: was fear. It was fear, not physical. It's fear. Well,
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  Speaker 1: but there, I mean there were times where Tom probably
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  Speaker 1: got a little bit across the line. Back then there
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  Speaker 1: was no line um today, yeah, probably the But to
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  Speaker 1: your point your question, Pete, No, I do not think
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  Speaker 1: and everything I've heard in all the statements, I do
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  Speaker 1: not think that urban Meyer was fired by shot Con
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  Speaker 1: because of the Josh Lambo situation. I do not think
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  Speaker 1: that's why I think there was to fire him with
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  Speaker 1: cause that you didn't need that for that reason. That's
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  Speaker 1: my opinion. I mean, I don't know enough. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of what I've heard and probably heard the
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  Speaker 1: same time. I've heard that though through the grapevine for
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  Speaker 1: people that that's exactly what it was. So so, and
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  Speaker 1: now they've taken criticism for not firing them that Monday
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  Speaker 1: Sunday your Monday. You know some people, Yeah, why why
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  Speaker 1: why wait until the middle of the night. Why does
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  Speaker 1: it matter? I'm just well, sometimes you gotta go through
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  Speaker 1: some fine lines on the paperwork and everything. What's the
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  Speaker 1: hurry through their due diligence? Yeah, what does it matter?
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  Speaker 1: Theory being that you didn't game plan. The best thing
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  Speaker 1: about it is he didn't even he didn't even talk
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  Speaker 1: to his team. Well, the word is he talked to
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  Speaker 1: his coaches. He walked out the door. Well, it sounds
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  Speaker 1: like it wasn't the first time he left, based on
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  Speaker 1: some of the comments. I've told you that a long
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  Speaker 1: time ago. That was the book on him home at
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  Speaker 1: four thirty. You know, phote off, you're not reachable. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that. I can't verify that one
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  Speaker 1: under cent, but I've been told by that by a
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  Speaker 1: couple of different people. So you know, when you're the
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  Speaker 1: head coach of the team, you got and and and
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  Speaker 1: look he did get there like the four o'clock, three
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  Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning from what I understand, So it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't like he wasn't working. I don't want to say that,
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  Speaker 1: but you gotta be available around the clock when you're
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  Speaker 1: the head coach. Yeah, I don't know. Bebel kind of
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  Speaker 1: didn't Bevil kind of make like a joke about it. Almost.
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  Speaker 1: It was almost like he was flippantly saying that when
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  Speaker 1: he said it. I just got the sense from watching
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  Speaker 1: the stuff I watched the coaches your color, they feel
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  Speaker 1: like they're liberating. Hey we're free, now, let's go. Well yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but that's what I don't know about that, Pete, and Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a Misnow you're not free still. I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 1: three games you got three games ago, free but free
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  Speaker 1: of free of that mentality, and that well maybe the
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  Speaker 1: free of that mentality in the direct supervision of Urban
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  Speaker 1: Myer what that brought. But here's the reality. Every one
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  Speaker 1: of this building is gonna be judged in in three
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  Speaker 1: weeks from now, and they're gonna be evaluated based on
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  Speaker 1: their job and and my guesses. And again this is me,
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  Speaker 1: tony and not speaking for the organization. But if I
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  Speaker 1: was a betting man, that's not the last change. It's
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be made just my guess. So I would imagine,
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  Speaker 1: and this is something JP we're gonna we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to address this. What what's the next step in finding
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  Speaker 1: the next head coach. I mean, what is the next step,
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  Speaker 1: Because you've got a window now where you can start
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  Speaker 1: interviewing guys earlier than you've ever been able to in
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  Speaker 1: the next next week, that's part of the next week.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's why it's good to get the process going.
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  Speaker 1: If you're gonna do it, not wait. So I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: all for what they did. You know that I would
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  Speaker 1: have done it a long time ago. I thought I
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  Speaker 1: thought the team was unorganized. I didn't think he looked
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  Speaker 1: like he cared. I thought that the players were pushing
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  Speaker 1: back on him way back in training camp, which is
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  Speaker 1: never Look, that's no reason to get rid of a guy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the incident when not flying back with your team, which
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  Speaker 1: is of all the things he did. Look the incident
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  Speaker 1: with the girl at the bar, that's between him and
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  Speaker 1: his family. It's a stupid look. But not flying back
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  Speaker 1: with your team, from a football standpoint, is one of
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  Speaker 1: the worst things I've seen in this league in a
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  Speaker 1: long time. The worst you go down, your team loses,
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  Speaker 1: its just off lost. Go home with him. If you
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  Speaker 1: want to go back to Ohio, get on your private
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  Speaker 1: plane and go. You don't you go home with your
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  Speaker 1: team and and the whole body of work he had
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  Speaker 1: to go. He was a bad coach. He didn't know
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  Speaker 1: what was going on with his team. They made the
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  Speaker 1: right decision, get him the hell out, move forward to
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  Speaker 1: get a new coach. Well, we know how Pete feels. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he just laid it out there again. Let's come back.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into the quarterback Trevor Lawrence. A lot to
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  Speaker 1: talk about there, A lot to discuss there because that's
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  Speaker 1: really priority number one I think for the future one
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  Speaker 1: and two and three pm. Yeah, a whole handful of
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  Speaker 1: priorities for this team. Moving ahead plenty ahead of course.
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  Speaker 1: In the second hour your social questions, Twitter is a
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: buzz as you would imagine, Tony, I know you love it. No, yeah,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. He shook his head. No, no, that
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: was shaking my head and excitement. Can't wait? Is that
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: what it is? Well, we're off and running either way.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Jaguars
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Happy I was fuck you buy dream pinders home homes
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: that fit your like style and by Baptist help changing
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: help him look good. Definitely frustrating. All the guys are frustrating.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: We want to if we want to be more consistent,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: we want to we want to win. Um, So it's
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: definitely frustrating. But like I said, we're the ones that
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: controlled that. You know, we gotta go make the play.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta make those brows. Um, the other
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: players gotta gonna make catchers. We gotta. We all have
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: our part, you know, and um, there's no way around that.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Like we all have to. We all have to play better.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: So that's the Thing's gonna look yourself in the mirror
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: and can figure out how to get better. And I
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: think we'll do that, but we gotta really do that
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: this week. That's Trevor Lawrence of course, after the game
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: yesterday and Jaguar is lost to the Houston Texans. Six
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: consecutive losses for the Jags. Now, j P Shadrick, Tony Vaselli,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, I'm Jaguars happy, are glad you're along with
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: us today? We recapping the game yesterday offensively well more
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: James Robinson, Okay, and cut to the let me cut
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: to the chase here, Yes, am I right? In this statistic,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Trevor has one touchdown in the last six games. Seven games.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Like that's all. That's the story. That's the whole story. Start, finished, middle, foreshadowing, climax, conclusion.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: It's like whatever, it's like, that is the entirety of
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the story. Like, you have to have more production in
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: today's NFL. Like it's beyond me to think that we've
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: thrown one touchdown pass one in seven games. Well what
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: about nine on the year? Okay, that that will go.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: But but pete, at least in the first um so
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: we played twelve games now thirteen games. Now, at least
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: in the first six week, threw eight fourteen games two
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and twelve record two and twelve seas thank you too,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: and twelve. So in the at least in the first
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: seven we through eight one in the last seven. That's
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: like unreal. He's numbers are about his average is about
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: as good as your blocked average. Because you locked last week.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: By the way, we haven't given you crap for that.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: You know, I was forced into the lock. Let's be clear.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I did not want as a forced lock. I mean
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the lock is voluntary. I just start locking. The other
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: team's winning. I'm gonna lock the Jets winning this week.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: JP's got a lock. JP's got a locked this week. Yeah,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I got a locked the next two weeks. They gotta
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: win the next two to sweep the a f C. East.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna I called that after the Bills win.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: That was, in hindsight, not the best lock. That's not
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: gonna go. They're not winning again. Okay, they're not winning
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: again again. Not winning so too. Where at two in
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the pool before the season, you're the winner. Yeah, but
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: to our numbers go back to the issue of one
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: touchdown in seven games, Like, how does that it happened?
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Like that is like completely being inept. David Davis two
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: touchdowns last yesterday against US too well, he would have
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: had Trevor through And I told JP this before you
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: came on. The throw to Marvin Jones is a touchdown.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: His mechanics were awful. His his body was pointing one
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: way and he threw with his arm the other way.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: And that's where he's missing. I know he Marvin Jones
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: is open. I realized that I'm not saying I'm not
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: blaming the receivers right now, I'm actually putting it right
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: on the laughing No, that's my point, But I'm blaming
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: the quarterback on that. What has happened, Pete to where
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: we are throwing one touchdowns in seven games and Trevor
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Lawrences our quarterback, like something's not right, like that needs
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to be. That's when we actually aren't scoring a lot
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: of touchdowns either, Are they get that beauty. I'm just
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: gonna go. I just want to focus right now on
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the quarterback in the throwing in the lack of production
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and lack of like any thing, and so like the
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: longest touchdown past of the year, I don't know and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I don't care right now. I care that there's only
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: been one in the last seven games, and the focus
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: like there needs to be to steal our past coaches vernacular,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a deep dive on what is going on with Trevor
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Lawrence and why where are we missing it? Is it
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the offense? Is it the coaching? Is it the mechanics?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Is it all of the above? Because I just refused
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to believe that the kid can't play quarterback. I've seen
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: too much, saw too much in camp, saw too much
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: early in this season, Like he's not he's not going
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: in the right direction, and that needs to be the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: focus of this entire organization from now until next season.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: We kick off getting the right leadership to make sure
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that kid is is like maximizing his potential. By the way,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to answer your question, Pete, the longest touchdown past of
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the year for him is forty one yards back in
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Week one at Houston. His longest past play of the
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: year is ards against Tennessee on October tenth. It's a
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: long time ago too. Those I don't remember those throws.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Are they down? The throw? They not? One of them
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: was a screen right, No idea, But you know what
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I do. You see what I'm Yeah, No, it has
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: he has to be the focal point Tony, the whole thing.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Whatever they do going forward the rest of the season,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: who they hire, it has to be about him. He
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: has regressed. His mechanics have waned. You can see it
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: on tape. He is in that opening drive. Yeah, the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: opening drive. They looked like they were going down the field,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: bing bing, bing, bing bing. They look good at that drive.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Then it was the end of it and went away.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: He is right now the playing where he had Odiot
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: or Shaughnessy on the sideline that bubble playing designed. They
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: faked the bubble screen and they wrut him up the sideline.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: So what do they do now they go back and
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: run the bubble screen about fourteen more times the rest
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: of I mean, look, I could to size the offense
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: all your want. I just you know how I feel
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: about that. But he is regressing because the design of offense,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: because receivers don't win, because he's getting hit, and because
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: he just hasn't improved. He's not And that's the most
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: asserting thing. Would you agree, he's just not accurate right now?
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: His mechanics Tonty, Yeah, yeah. If you watch the throw,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw time, step into it, step
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: into it. It's a touchdown. His body is going one way,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: his arms going the other. It's a terrible mechanics are terrible.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: By the way, that Week one touchdown was a past
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: deep left to DJ chart. I remember that against Houston,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: far corner of the end zone, away from where the
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: booth is going right to left. That's correct, back right
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: corner of the end zone, that's correct. And then he
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: threw another touchdown past the man hurts in that game,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: didn't he Yeah, he had three in that game, so
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: he has nine for the year. So he was on
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: he was on pace for fifty something. He had five
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: in the first three weeks of the season and then four.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: That's a problem. Yeah, big problem. And he's part of
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the problem. You know, I didn't I like when I
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: say that's a problem. He's part of including that problem.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Are you worried about him? Yes, I'm worried about everything.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I'm worried, Pete. How can you not be worried about
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: him not being that guy? Pete, we're one in fifteen
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: last year, we're two and twelve right now. That means
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: we're three And that's not what I'm asking You know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you're missing my point. I'm worried about everything. Are you
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: worried he's not the guy? No, I still think he's
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the guy. I do too, But I'm worried about everything.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: But I think he's the guy. I'm betting on him.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: But again, everything else you can worry about. If he
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: ain't the guy, that's another five six years in garbage. Pete,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: let's not talking about that right now. By the way,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that fifty eight yard passed, the longest of the season
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: for him, was against Tennessee Um and it was a
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: past deep left to Leviscu should already ran out of
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: bounds fifty eight yards And that came October was that
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the underneath crossing that he random Almost deep left is
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: what it says, deep left. I don't remember remember that
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: either de levisca should all would be an aberration. So
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: maybe it was that ran all the way across the
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: field that must have been in. That's not deep deep.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just doing what an official book says. Yeah, I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: just don't mean, come on, Pete, don't get on JP.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: It's Eze fault. He's just reading I know he's reading.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting on JPM saying whoever put that stat
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: down in there, they described the play was wrong, wasn't
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: deep left? Peter? Are you concerned about Trevor? No? No,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I mean he could put anybody in this system right
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: now and with that pool of receivers in that offensive line,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and he's not going to succeed. No, I'm not. But
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: what I'm concerned with, though, is the fact that through
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the processes mechanics have waned and his accuracy is worse,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: and he's not getting through his progressions as fast even
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: as he did earlier in the season. Yeah, he's going backwards,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. He's going the wrong direct and
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: he took and I think he's taken easy throws rather
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: than letting one fit in there and take it. Like
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: for example, and you see, if you remember this play,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: he took one in the middle of the field I
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: think Dey Shaughnessy on third down and it was third
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: and whatever, and he got to three yards short of
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the first down in the middle of the field. He
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: had and I can't remember who it was on the
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: deep cross and he all he had to do was
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: fit it in there. And it's a twenty yards shot
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: down the middle of the field. He didn't take it.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: He took the easier throw. And I'm seeing more and
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: more of that which is concerned. Well, everything that you're saying, yeah,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I think I knew. But the other thing that stood out,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: it stood out to me the last few weeks is
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: his uh jumping this in the pocket a little bit.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Like the protection has not been great, let's be clear,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: but it's been when it's good. Sometimes he's still moving around,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: going into trouble instead of just being calm and sitting
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: there and taking a you know, hitch up, step up
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: and letting it fly. And so there's just a bunch
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: of stuff that makes you concerned. But I'm still a believer.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I'm still doubling down. I'll double down right now on him.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you an example on something. On something
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: you watched New England play the other night against the Colts,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Dick Colts didn't sniff mac Jones every single time he
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: went back to throw, he had to clean one of
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the cleanest because the Colts aren't a great pass for
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: his team anyways, But his pockets were amaze singing that game.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, a few teams have pockets like that, but
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has a pocket like that. He's gonna hit somebody.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: He's gonna if you give give him Hunter Henry and
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: John hu Smith and the creativity of Josh Mthaniels and
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that offensive line. With that pocket, Trevor Lawrence will look
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: out standing. Pete, you know the storyline the next two
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: weeks is gonna be the quarterback matchups Zack Wilson, Mac
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Jones versus Trevor Lawrence fair or not this well and
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: and Zack Wilson is another one that hasn't looked good
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: in large part because of who's around him. I mean,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: think about think about the situations. Two situations matter for
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: young quarterback. If you took Mac Jones, who's a Jacksonville kid,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: put him with the Jaguars, and put Trevor Lawrence with
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. Trevor Larns will be every bit is good,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: if not better than Mac Jones, and Mac Jones will
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: be struggling like Trevor Lawrence. That's the reality of it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Let's take a time out. We'll come back a little
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: defensive talk. We'll come back around with the quarterback Tony
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: all right, we might need to keep the camera on
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: for a live looking during the time out top plating
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: ahead of course, we'll take a look at the draft
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: order that has changed in our weekly draft segments since
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars have been eliminated. Of course, the second Hour,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Your Soldier Questions and much more Jaguars Happy Hour on
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. The main thing we try to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: focus only just haven't I think that's one of the
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: most important uh who as you need as a DV
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: to know, have good eye mixture, your eyes and receives.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: There's a case he does a double move where actlexis
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: duckings and take off. So that's the main thing he
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: preached was h have a good eyes and don't let
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: the ball. Uh, get over our heads. It's Tyson Campbell,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: rookie cornerback and welcome back at Shaguar's Happy Hour on
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a Monday afternoon, J P. Shadrick with Pete Priscoe and
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli recapping a Jags loss to the Houston Texans
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: thirty to sixteen. The final score the Texans are three
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: and eleven, two of those wins against the Jags. Jags
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: are two and twelve. And we'll get to the draft
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: order coming up. You probably know what it is by now.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: In the two teams we've beaten have winning records. That's right,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: an FC east upon its Dolphins and Bills. Because the
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Dolphins won again, correct, they did, they rallied. They don't
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: have a winning record though, what are they? Seven and seven? Yeah?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: They're right there? Okay, so every I mean my point
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: is two sweet beat or five and have a winning record.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: You think you think what about the Bills? What about
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins? What do you think the Dolphins and the
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Bills are thinking right now? After look watching us lose
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: to the Texans with eleven guys on the COVID list,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: seven starters out, I mean, what are they thinking that?
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Like what how did we? What? What? What? What happened? Hello?
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: How did this happen? Particularly the Bills? I mean the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: jag scored to combined thirty two points in those games.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Three was the high watermark against Miami. You understand, twenty
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: three the high watermark for the yeason? Yes, I understand.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: And you had to kick to fifty yards from from Oxford,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: England to win the game. So are we the low
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: do we have the we have to have the we
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: have to be the lowest scoring offense in the NFL.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Now after that last week because the the Texans outscored,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: put dirty on the board. I know the Texans were,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: we were point two points more. It was thirteen eight
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: six four eight to fourteen. We went up though, Yeah
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: we did because we scored sixteen. Yeah, so were That's
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: how we were. We over achieved. It's it's really um
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: who was that feet? I mean they lost the Buffalo.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Buffalo has doubled the scoring after Buffalo lost to them.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Defense had an epic day. That's why. Well let's talk
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: about the defense, because overall this defense has done a
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: good job this year. I mean even yesterday, I mean
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the Texas stink one was a kick return the last
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: at the end of bubble screen. I mean it's like
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: it's so I mean, you don't want that to happen,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: but the reality is they held him under three y yards.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: They gotta turn over. I mean, like, like the defense,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I give Joe Coleen credit. It will be interesting to
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: see what happens with whoever the new coach in, because
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna clean house on the offensive side, Like,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I think that's like that's my I don't I mean,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything, but my guess is when you
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: have the worst offense in the history of the franchise
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: and one of the worst in the history of the NFL,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: you're probably gonna clean house. It'll be interesting to see
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: what they might clean house on the defensive side too.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he won't be he might, but I
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: would argue, Joe Cohen has done a good job with
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: this you so if you have a good defensive corner,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: why would you rid of him? And by the way,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: the guy that he was speaking speaking at the podium
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: before when we played the sound, he's gotten ten times better.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: He's gotten better, he's improved. The season is going most
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: improved player of the year and he's going to be good. Yeah,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: you can tell he's going to be good. So that's
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: a big hit for them. That well, we'll give him
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: credit for that. That's I mean, that's the big hit
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: so far. He right now, he's the best rookie. That's
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: a bad thing though, that is a bad thing. He's
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: one of two that have played first. It's another bad
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Walker Little play Walker little plate on Sunday he did yesterday.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: That's right. It was better what happened to Cam Robinson
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: by the way, strained neck day to day. But aren't
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: we all So what do you think of Walker little?
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Before we get to the defense, I don't want to
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: He was better. He still doesn't take great angles on
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: his sets, still doesn't use his hands like he like
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: lets him get into the body too much. He got
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: off balance on the one play where the guy went
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: around him. It looked like am I wrong about that?
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Where you like he let him get into him and
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: then he kind of fell and he went around because
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: he took a terrible set, he like opened up the gate,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: didn't get it. I mean, it was just terrible, the
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: whole thing. But he was better. You can see he's improving.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: He's working at it like he's a big strong dude. Um,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I might, I'm if Cam, I mean, if Cam's healthy,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I might start walking a little right tackle. You said
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: that going into the game yesterday, find out what he
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: can do. How about this putting the guard he's a
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: big old sucker. Well, yeah, because the left garden very good. Well,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's got me back. And he's he
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: talking about a guy who looks like he went off
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: the career cliff. He's not playing as well. Speaking of
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: young uns, how did Cisco play yesterday? Of the snaps
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: on defense, getting eyes, open field tack, nothing stood out
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: to me like there was nothing remarkable, nothing bad though either,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: like I'm looking forward to. Just if you're playing on
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: the back end, that's good. If it's nothing bad, that's
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I agree. But I want to go back and watch
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: him like specifically, because I didn't watch specifically him every play. Um,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to. While I mean, the thing that
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: stood out to me watching our defense is where's Josh Allen?
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Like what happened? Like, where do you go? Josh Allen?
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Not start the game? He did not? Why? I don't know.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I wasn't told it was smoot and Chase On were
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the starters. That's what I saw when I'm watching the tape.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I started watching the tape and I saw that, and
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, he wasn't in on the first two plays
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: in the game. I don't remember how many plas. I
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: know it was the first one for sure, that's all
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I know. But where's he gone? And I said, I
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: said this this morning? But why did he? I don't know?
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Why did he start? I don't know, Pete, I wasn't
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you know you're in the press. Why don't you guys
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: ask the coaches those questions? Because I'm not there. I
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: don't cover that team on a daj P. Why did
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you ask the question? Why did he start? I don't know.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Today was a virtual press. You could have you could
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: have asked the question. That's embarrassing, JP. You could have also,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not I have a different role. I'm not an interviewer.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not a press conference guy. I'm a commentator. I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: will say I will say this, Josh, my buddy, maybe
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: one of my buddies in the Jacksuo media'll text me
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: right now and they know the answer to that, why
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: why didn't he start? So? But here's the thing I said,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: this is morning, Peter want your action because the question
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: this morning on Dan and Jeff Show is like where
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: is Josh Allen? Like where did he go? Like he's
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: not been productively And my comment was, I think where
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I've landed with Josh Allen. Josh Allen's a nice player.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: He's a good player like you like he's a positive
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: impact on your team. But he's not a difference maker.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: He's not a guy who's gonna take over the game
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: and reek just wreck Havoca. No. No, he's not going
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: to take over the game and dominate. No, Miles Garrett, No,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: he's not that. He's just a nice player. I will
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: say this about Josh Allen. He has been on the
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: injury report for a number of weeks with a shoulder.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Just say everyone's hurt JP. I'm just saying he was
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: credited with four hurries though I think if I'm not mistaken,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: which I don't remember, I gotta. I haven't watched it
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: defensive tape except for the first couple of plays. But
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I watched I did not see. I watched the tape today.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't see anything like nothing, Like I'm not saying
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: he played bad I'm talking difference maker. I'm talking a
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: guy Like when you turn on the tape and you
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: play offensive line this league, You're like, oh, you know what,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I gotta block that dude. Like you're watching tape into
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: the wee hours of the night to try to figure
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: out to block that guy. Like I remember nine people
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: when we played Buffalo and Bruce Smith was defensive Player
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: of the Year. I watched every game like grinding, trying
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: to figure out I'm gonna block this guy because he
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: was dominant. That's not Josh Allen. That's Myles Garrett, that's
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, that's t J. Watt, like those guys Joey Bosa,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, like these guys like you like watch tape,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: but you're grinding, like okay, what I need to figure out?
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Like what does he do? That's not Josh Allen right now,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just sorry, what does he have five and have sacks?
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: That that? I mean, he's a good I want him
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: on my team. I'm not trying to kick him. Well,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: don't worry, they got the number one overall pick. They
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: can get another defensive end. But be am I wrong
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: with that? I mean, he's not a difference. No, he's not.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: There's here's why. There are certain guys that play hard
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: and play tough, and they'll get you eight or nine
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: sacks a year. Then there are guys that are special
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: that play hard and play tough and have the physical
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: explosive ability in the hands and everything else to get
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: themselves fifteen sacks. Josh Allen is more of the first group.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: He might get the nine ten eleven sacks from playing hard,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: playing tough play, but he's not gonna explosively blow by
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: people on a continual basis. And that's the difference. Like,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: if he's the second end opposite Miles Garrett, he'd be
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: really a good player. If he was the second end
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: opposite Nick Bosa, he'd be a really dynamic But is
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: he is he like Crosby at the Raiders, He's I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: mean Crosby's like, that's a dude that plays hard and
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: disrupts football games, right that. Let me ask you this,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: was he better than way? I think they're like, they're
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: good hard players that you want your team. I don't
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna take over games. And I'd argue that
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Yannick takes over games more because he creates fumbles. Yannique
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: is a better pass rusher and worst run player. Josh
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Allen is a better run player and the worst pass
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: rush right, But like you look at like Max Crosby,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Like there's a name I'm like everyone says when you're
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: talking about Miles Garrett, like the top end guys. Okay,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Max Crosby or what's the what's his first name? Is
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: a Max? Yeah? Max? Yeah? Max Crosby defensive end for
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: the Raiders. The dude just takes over games, like he disrupts.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: He beats people up. He's hitting the cornerback like you
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: know where he is when you sign up, Like when
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: you get on the film and you watch you like, um, okay,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: see whatever number is number he is, Like we gotta
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: block him, Like watch him, he's good. I gotta block him,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Like I don't see that in Josh. And that's why
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be this year. All Right,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: we're gonna we're up against the people's let's take a
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: quick time out. We'll come back, we'll continue this conversation.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Of course, we'll get back to the offense. We'll get
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: back to the aftermath of the Urban Meyer. Let's go
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: back back and forth back and forth. That's what we
• 41:30
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• 41:38
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• 41:44
  Speaker 1: What are we doing? Pumpkin spice. Pumpkin spice, that's what
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I smell. It's very good. This is the I had
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: so far. Elliot, Huh, how's that diet been going well?
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't in all honestly, p JP, this is the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: first thing I've eatn all day today. No breakfast, no lunch, nothing.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: You're withering away. I can't imagine that being true. I'll
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: give you my word. Nothing. You're you're you're lying like
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: you wing from that building. Why would I like? I listen,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I had crackers and freedoms. It's not like I'm saying
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I'm eating celery and broccoli. I'm eating friedos crackers. If
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: anybody would be hungry, the definition would be him. But
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: whatever reason I got, he wasn't that angry. Was he
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: because I got busy? I got busy? Beeat next thing?
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: We've seen him hungry? But this was not that Ryan eaton.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try not to eat and
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: see if I can just lose weight if you're fasting,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: if you don't eat till later in the day. By
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the way, there, that's what I did. They're like intermediate fast,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: just eat when you're hungry, intermediate fast, interm intermediate intermediate fasting. Tony.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Tony's gonna have the intermediate fasting diet where he eats
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: every fifteen minute. Oh hey, you know we promised when
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars are eliminated from playoff contention that we would
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: have a draft segment, and here it is. Tonight. The
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Jaguars are now number one and the two draft order.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions knocked off the Arizona Cardinals to get
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: their second win of the season. They are to eleven
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: and one. The Jaguars are now two and twelve and
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: they have the inside track to the number one pick
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. Peak. You know that I was
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: watching it all play out in front of me yesterday
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: in our green room, and I turned to one of
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: my guys and I go, this is where I'm different
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: than like a guy like Tony Vasselli. Tomorrow when I
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: do this show, because I'm sitting here thinking, it's actually
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: not a bad thing that they've lost on Sunday and
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: the Lions, because now you have the number one overall
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: pick again. Well just shaking his head. Well, I'll actually
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: say this, Pete. If you're gonna be bad and this bad,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: just stay like, be the worst, because I'd rather have
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the first overall picked in the second, third or fourth.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: That way, I don't pick anyone I want. So it's
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: a good thing that they lost on Sunday. Well, it depends.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: It depends where you're sitting. If you're a player, no,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: it's not good. If your coach is not good. I'm
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: at the point now. It also depends on who they're picking.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Who's doing the picking. I don't know who it is,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: do you No? I don't either. But and then we
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: gotta get it. We're gonna get into some of that
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: futures talking a second. But as far as the draft,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: who if I'm gonna try and move it and get
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: more picks, Let's say you can't move. You can't move it.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Who you picking? You're stuck with the number one pick? Ah,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: who you picking? That's for me, it's tough. And here's
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: why I think I'm taking Hutchinson. But I worry about
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Hutchinson versus the kid in Oregon because the kid in
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Oregon has so much more athletic ability and and bigger
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I think, or not as big, And he says about
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: the same size I think, But Hutchinson he's not as tall.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: But Hutchinson has all the moves and all the technique
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: and everything else where. He dominates college lineman. But Tony,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: you would know this better than me. If you have
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: an athletic freak versus a guy with all the tricks
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: that knows how to use them, who would you rather block? Well,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: an athletic freak who doesn't know how to rush, it's
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: the easy guy to block, in my opinion, like he
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: just goes up the field. But what about an athletic
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: freak who knows how to rush but he doesn't have
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: a problem. That's a really good player. But I've heard
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Hutchinson's is a really good athlete, Like he runs four six,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: great vertical. I heard the kids a great athlete. Here's
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: my concern with Hutchinson a little bit. And I've watched
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: some of this tape. I love him, don't get me wrong.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Where was he? I think he got hurt in COVID.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: He got hurt when he had COVID last year. He
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: had two years ago. But what he did play, he
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: wasn't as dominant, and that always worries me a little bit.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: We have reached the conclusion of our number one plenty
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: more ahead hour two of Jaguars Happy Hour coming up,
• 46:30
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• 46:55
  Speaker 1: That's really not my focus right now. Right now, I
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: know it's death, you know. Coach Bethsura our head coach,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: and um, everything else is still intact, and that's what
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: we're that's what we'll focus on moving forward and just
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: trying to get better. As you know, I thought we Um,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: we moved the ball out better on offense today it's
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: the seventh right direction. But we just gotta make plays
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: down the streets. We know, and when we meet him
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: third fourth quarter, UM, I gotta I gotta make the throws.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Guys that made the catches. It's all of us, you know,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: we gotta make more plays. I missed a big throw
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: on third down, UM, like eight minutes left from the
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter, so um, but I mean it was it
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: was nice to see us moving the ball again like
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: we like we were earlier in the year, so when
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: that was a step in the right direction, but we
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: just gotta we gotta finish. That's Trevor Lawrence of course
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: after the game yesterday, and welcome back. It's the second
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon, j P. Shadrick,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco recapping Jaguars lost to the Houston Texans,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the first game since the departure of head coach Urban Meyer.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: He was fired late Wednesday night Thursday morning, a little
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: after twelve thirty am, and the aftermath of at and
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the remaining days of the week led into this game.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: That's now the sixth consecutive loss for the Jaguars, and
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: they've now lost eight in a row against the Houston
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Texans and they were swept this year again by the
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Texans team. This Texans team, of all teams, it's a
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: totally different team from Week one as well, and they
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: still put thirty on the board against the Jags yesterday.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Defensive starters were down with COVID yesterday for Houston special
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: teams struggles for the Jaguars, to say, the least, the
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: offense was better relative to really bad, and the defense
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: had some moments battle around right now for the Jags
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: though three games to go, though, the Jaguars had the
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: inside track to the number one overall pick in the
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Up next a quarterback battle the top two
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: from the draft going head to head next week and
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Met Life Stadium Trevor Lawrence and the two and twelve
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Jags Zack Wilson in the three and eleven New York
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Jets Christmas in Jersey? Are you done talking it? Yes?
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: That was a long and I mean I got really
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: was doing. The show was Holy cow? JP breath, It's
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: not the JP show we talk we talking about like,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: you know, you can talk anything else you want to read,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I'll just you know, sit back and kick back and relax.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I really like I was reading Twitter, Pete, and I
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: forgot that I was on the show because I'm like,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: JPS just reading for ten minutes. You're here? What were
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: you hearing? BA? I heard my bad, bad, bad bad Charlie.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: We're kidding, JP. I'm not. I'm not kidding. I literally
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: checked out. Actually, I thought I was like in another
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: world and what show is this? Yeah? Back, you guys
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: go for I don't worry. JP will do it all right,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: shut off his mike. It's cool, man. The issues here,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I'm on the desk. Does shot con need an advisor
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: to help him in the coaching search? The shot Khan
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: need an advisor? Um? I think we all need advisors JP,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I mean not jppte and JP. UM from the standpoint,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I think we need individuals that we trust, that we
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: can bounce things off of and help us through the process.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: And so if that and UM, yeah, so I guess
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: the short answers yes, And I think if I was
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: in shot shoes, I'd evaluate how I got to this
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: point and do it just do it different. And I'm
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: half joking there, how many different ways has he done
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: it already? Though? Think about that? Well, not half joke,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: you're not half joking. Well, well, here's the thing. Has
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: he done it different? He's hired different people, different types,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: but he's been at the centerpiece of making the final call.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: And and now, in fairness, the shot I don't know
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: his process. I don't know if anyone really knows the
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: process of and maybe he is listening to people. So
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: this is me takes taking some liberties um based on
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: what I know, which is not a complete picture, to
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: be clear. So he might be. But my perception is
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: my perception is Pete is that he gets people, he
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: interviews them, and then he makes the choice. Right, I
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: mean that's I mean, that's all we know, at least,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I mean JB didn't know anything else. That's all. Well,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: let's take the Urban Meyer hiring. Okay, there was a
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: little bit of an infatuation there. They clearly at one
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: point last year decided he was going to be the guy,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: probably earlier than probably earlier than any of us realized.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: It was during the season, they knew and what led
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: him to that. Now I've heard that Trent actually was
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: all in favor of I don't know if that's true
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: or not, but I and I don't know where their
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: their connection comes from. So he leaned on Trent for
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: that advice, and then once he heard an interview, and
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Urban's track record obviously stood on its own. It's not
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: like you need to get convinced of it once you
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: sit down with him, if you like, if you probably
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: hire him. Yeah, But that's where I disagree. Pe Pete.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I hear, let me stop you there and this is
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: where I and I don't know if and he could
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: have done this. I don't know if he did or not,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: but I know this. I had a bunch of people
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: calling me unsolicited, by the by the way, once it
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: got out that we were thinking about hiring Irban Meyer,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: saying that's not a good decision, like, don't hire him.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, so I was getting that now unsolicited. I
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: had nothing to do the process, and so I would think,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: and I don't know this, but if I'm shot, I
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: am picking up the phone and calling people and diving
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: in deep doing the deep dive. We've heard that for
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: a while, is really asking the questions. No different then,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: like as you, I'm like, when you he made the
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: decision to go Trent Balky, is your GM? I mean,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: if it's me, my recommend is like I pick up
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: the phone and I start dialing for dollars to figure out.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I want to know everything about this. And so I
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: guess my point in saying this moving forward, If I
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: was him, I think like he maybe already has an advisor.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't I don't know enough
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: about the process to speak to that one way or another. Pete,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: but I'll say this, I would pick up that phone
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: and I'd call and I do a lot of have
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of phone call conversations with people who have
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: nothing to gain by like whether no matter what they
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: say about the person, Like I want to know the truth.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Like like if I'm like perfect example Pete, Like if
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go call and like have questions about JP,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call people that know JP, that've worked with JP,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: been around JP, and don't get anything out of JP
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: getting the job or not getting the job, Like I
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: just want to know, Like tell me, I'll tell you
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: about all about JP. You all about JP? But you
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: know what you mean, Tony. But but I'm gonna give you.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the other side of that. Jimmy
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Johnson came out yesterday I don't know if you saw
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: it and defended Urban Meyer. He's friends with him. Jimmy
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Johnson is a respected football guy. If Shot Khan called
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, excuse me and said, hey, I'm thinking about
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: hiring Irban Meyer, what do you think I want to
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: talk to you? Go talk to him. He talks to him.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: He says, Oh, this guy's a great coach. He does this, this,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: and this. Well, there's a reference. If he called Belichick
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: and I know they have utmost respect for Belichick Belichick
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: and urban Meyer friendly, excuse me, friendly, he'd give him
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: a good recommendation. So there's two recommendations. Great, I'm gonna
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: have I gonna call the University of Florida and asked
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: people who worked with him every day, because guess what,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: urban Meyer has never worked with Bill Belichick and has
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: never worked with Jimmy Johnson. So that's fine. Guess what,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: they don't know Urban Johnson at all. Urban Meyer. They
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson like knew him from afar and like probably
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: went to some dinners like awards ceremonies and hung out
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: like they don't know him. Like, go call the people
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: who worked with them, Go call the secretary, Like I'll
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: never forget John Robinson, my coach at USC the last
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: couple of years. He said, like he said something that's
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: stuck into me forever. And he had like and I've
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: said this story for he had like three rules, play hard,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: be on time. And the third rule was the thing
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: that impacted me the most. He says, you better treat
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: everybody in the building with respect and you better treat
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: the secretary the same way you treat me, and you
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: better seat the jamitor the same way you treat me,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: because if you don't, that tells me who you are,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: and I don't want you on my team. I tell
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: that stories. Go call the people that urban Meyer worked
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: with every day, and what do they say about him.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Not with Jimmy Johnson, and I like Jimmy Johnson and
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, great coach. They never have worked with him.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: They don't know and I'll and I'll go one step
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: further with the same kind of line of thinking about respect.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: The people in the building treat him with respect. Every
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: personnel guy scout I've ever talked to, says when they
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: go to a school, they don't want to get the
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: information from what the coach will say because he's gonna
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: pump the guy up. He wants him to get to
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: the NFL. It helps him. They go talk to the
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: strength coach, they go talk to the secretaries, the council,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: talked to the support staff, they talked to uh, the
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: cafeteria workers. That's where you find out all about the guy.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: And so, Tony, you are spot on. They should have
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: went to Florida. They should have went to Ohio State.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: They should have went a bunch of different places, talked
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: to agents people and how is he when you deal
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: with them? And they would have found out what everybody
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville found out when he was inside the building.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: He makes people miserable. I mean, I'm just saying. I mean,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I had a handful of conversations that when
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: this was all happening last year. I mean, I'm not
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: part of the process, and people would call me. I'm like, dude,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: why are you calling me? I got nothing to do
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: with this, But I mean, they give me your opinions.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: It wasn't always very flattering, which is fine. I mean,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with asking Jimmy Johnson or Bill Belichick.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: But that's just one perspective. And that's the perspective. And
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: here's the other thing. You understand a lot of times
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: about coaches. Coaches don't like bad mouthing other coaches. It's
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: like doctors ever go ask a doctor about another doctor
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: like they doctors will never say anything bad about another
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: doctor because they don't want to come blown back on them.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: And so asking Jimmy Johnson or Bill Belichick about Urban Meyer,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: they're not. I mean they don't know him. I mean
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: like like the day to day and they're probably not
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: gonna just rip the guy because like they have this
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: little community, this will fraternity. So I agree with Pete
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: when I said, go ask, Go ask the guys that go,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: ask people who have to work with these individuals every day,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: and whoever you hire next do the same deep deep
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: dit You know we're joking about deep dive, but that's
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: exactly what it is. But who does he get to
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: do it? That's the quite. He needs somebody to guide
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: him first and foremost. If Trent Balky is not going
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: to be part of the team, and we don't know that,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: but if he's not, then you need somebody to step
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: in that's going to lead the process. And so how
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: do you do you hire a guy who can hire
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: and advise you on hiring your coach and GM together,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: or do you do you hire the GM and then
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: he hires the coach. There's a lot of things that
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: play in there that you have to decide how you're
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: gonna do it. But he needs somebody to advise him,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: and it's not Trent. It can't be Trent. If Trent
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: advised him on urban Meyer, which you hear he did,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: then then I think you can't be Trent. So it
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: has to be somebody on the outside. So do you
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: hire a former personnel guy, a coach head coach Tony
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Dundee's name has been mentioned somebody along those lines. I
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: just think he needs somebody to lean on with football
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: background to help him get through the process. When we return,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: We're gonna keep it real. We haven't even started to
• 59:01
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• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network. I mean, I thought there was I
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: thought there were things that we did better today. You know,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: um there was. There was a little bit of explosions
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: you were able to find, you know, find guys. We
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: were in a creatin space for some people. But again
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: we just said we did There was opportunities to make plays,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: didn't make some of them. And we gotta catch the ball.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: We gotta throw the ball, um, you gotta you know,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: we gotta protect better and we'll be we'll be able
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: to find a fund the end zone. But let's just
• 59:40
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• 59:44
  Speaker 1: game yesterday at Jaguars lost to the Houston Texans, and
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. J P, Shadrick Pete Prisco,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is rubbing his face. Was all right, we're
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: gonna make it. It's been one of those afternoons already. Well,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: just m We're just awful on offense and we were
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: not getting better. And they like and what Darryl Bebel
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: SAIDs right, and you gotta catch the ball, you gotta
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: throw it more accurately, gonna block. There's just no juice.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: There's no juice on that side of the ball. What
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: do you think of the decision to change make Brian
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Schottenheimer the play call? What can it hurt? Go for it?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Try it? I mean, what does it matter? I mean,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, if it makes it easier for Daryl Bebl
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: to manage the sounded managed the whole game. Sure, if
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I'm Daryl Bebel, I'm not doing it. Though. When they
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: come out and score thirty a game, you'll never be
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: an offensive cordinator again. And they are playing they are
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: playing a bad defense this week. By if they just
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: like like a pinball machine in the waite. What is
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: this bebel guy been doing where? Not even in the time.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he can cut down on the little bubble
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: screens to China from five to two or something per game. Yeah,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know, wow, but I mean it doesn't matter.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: I mean they're not How much can you change in
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: one week? And you are who you are at this all? Right?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: This the opening drive on I thought the opening drive
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: looked great. Go ahead, you gotta do your your keeping
• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:40
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• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: which means you're the ones you're going to give out
• 1:01:46
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• 1:01:51
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• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Santa Claus ain't coming to town. So this is kind
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: of our topic here. I know we interrupted you there,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: but who are your offensive pillars. Right now, who do
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: you build around on the offensive side of the football?
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Moving ahead, no matter who's picking, whatever is going on,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: who are the guys that are Trevor Lawrence? You believe
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: in Trevor Lawrence, James Robinson, Cam Robinson even still, Yeah,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: franchise him. Yeah, I mean, I think, I mean it's
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: hard to find go look around left tackles and we've
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: we've gone through this. It's not I'm building around. That's it.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Pete quarterback left tackle for the right price. Running back
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: is part of the running game. But I need some
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: I need speed back there. I'm saying he's a guy,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: he's on your roster and he got E t n
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: coming off. None of the other guys. Ben bart is
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: on your roster. Tone that I'm building around, I'm okay, yeah,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: but like I might, I'm not saying I'm not gonna
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: upgrade right guard if I can. Like the way I
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: look at the question you ask, like where am I
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: like going in next year, I feel like I got
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: three starters correct, But like I think Ben I'll say differently.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Do I think Ben Bartch is just started? Yes, Ben
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Barts can start. Like my guess is, unless you go
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: find someone else like Juwan Taylor is gonna be your
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: starting right tackle next year unless someone can be about
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, finding offensive linement is not easy. And you
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: have a bunch of stuff. No, here's something, Okay, I'm
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: gonna give you an example. Though. You watch the game
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Sunday night. The Saints played without their starting tackles and
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: a backup guard and they just totally did everything they
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: could have get a good defense protected them and he
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: had time at times and it wasn't a disaster. Why
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: is that Tony good coaching? Good scheme? You run the ball,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: take the pass, rush out, you play action pass, you
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: move the pocket, you change the launch point. So it's
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: the guys can't tee off. I mean, I can give
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: you a lot of things you can do differently. They
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: haven't gotten any better the offensive line. Joan Taylor has
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: got in the wrong direction. Andrew Norwell, I think he's
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: hit the goodbye career over ledge and he's done. I
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: think Brandon Linder is uh is basically washed up. Um,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I mean not washed up, but he can't get out
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: the field. That's why concerned with him. Right and and
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: the right guard has moments where he looks like he
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: could be a good solid guard. He does. Okay, But
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: let me ask you this question. Is there any receiver
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: you're that you are not against like that you're not
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: trying to upgrade for nexttion? Any any tight ends you're not? No? Okay,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: in the game on Sunday and I said four or five,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: let me finish. Okay, So there's not every you're gonna
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: try it the upgrade every receiver. You're gonna try to
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: upgrade every tight end. Tell me the offensive line positions
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: that you're not gonna try it upgrade are left tackle.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: You're gonna keep your left keeping Cam. Yeah, for the
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: right price. Because what I'm saying, but you're like, you're
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: not actively going to Joe try and find another left tackle. No, no,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: you would. You would try and keep him for if
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: the money got out of whack, you go try and
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: find a left tackle. Fair enough, I'm assuming. I mean,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: if you had a franchise and again it's fifteen million
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: bucks or seventeen million bucks next franchise, he's gonna be
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: my left tackle. Yes, that's my point. You can't because
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. You can't fix everything, Like you literally
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: have to put some plugs in saying we're going with
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: this guy. We're like going there. This is what the
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: bill is. Lineman. Would you consider the offensive lineman with
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: the first overall pick? Yeah, I would. They kid from
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Alabama is the real deal. Evan Neil, Evan Neil. Let
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: me tell you what I'm doing, Pete. I'm taking the
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: best players because I don't have enough good ones. I
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: don't what if a receiver was the best player, you
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: wouldn't take it first? Well maybe why not? I mean
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like that idea. You wouldn't take
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: it back for her, he would take it back first.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: There's never gonna be a back that's the best player. Well,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: it could be the best player. He's just not gonna
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: have the most value. That's my point. Well, the best
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: player value, Like like, I'm taking the guy that brings
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: the most value to my team. That's has to be
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: a good player. For example, if Jonathan Taylor was in
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: the draft, I'm not taking in the draft because he's
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: a more value. Doesn't mean, Pete, But this is where
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: you go. Let me tell you how it goes. You
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: know this, Come on, draft, quarterback, you draft, affect the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: quarter back you draft, protect the quarterback, and then you
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: and then you know you have and then you know what,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: you draft quarterbacks, passes down the corner. But no, I
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: mean I'm telling my order because you know what, if
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: you affect the quarterback, you can play with inferior dbs.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Go tell me the four who are the four starting
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: dbs for the Giants when they killed Brady and end
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: their undefeated season. You can't tell me. You know, you
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: could tell me. You can tell me the front four
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: that we're getting after him. But but Tony, I'm saying, yes, okay,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: let me listen. Tell you fix it. Let me tell
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: you fix it. Quarterback, affect the quarterback, protect the quarterback
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: speed on offense. That's it. Go do that, you'll be okay. No,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: it's it's a five pronged approach. Now it used to
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: be four pronged. Gets the quarterback, knocked down the quarterback,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: protect the quarterback, knocked down the quarterbacks passes, and now
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: it's catch them with speed. It's the game has changed.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: It never used to be a receiver. Okay, fine, I'll
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: take my point is I'm putting beat in front of
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: your knocking down the quarterbacks ball because I'm gonna have
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: a pass rush, it's gonna be knocking the guy's head off.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: He's gonna throw it. But how good would your defense
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: if you had Jalen behind a pass rush like that? Why?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I've talked to defensive coordinators that I respect and they say, well,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: you know what makes a great back half is a
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: great front four. Oh, I'm with you, I'm front. Let
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: me tell you what. There's a theory out there now
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: that the secondary is more important. I don't buy it, hey,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: because because here's the thing, Pete go remember the forty
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: nine when solo two years ago they went to the
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl and Richard Shermon was old and couldn't run,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: but was all Pro or Pro Bowl? Are you us
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: anyone on that step? They were great on the back
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: half because they had four dudes who could get after
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: the quarterback and you never had time back there. I'm
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: with you that the most important positions are quarterback and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: knocking him down and then protecting the quarterback and then
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: I'm My only thing is I'm not saying the secondary
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: is not important, but I need guys who can run
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: outside on offense safety seed. I need speed on offense
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: speed and not just straight line speed. I need suddenness.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I need like make you miss, like, oh my gosh,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: you're in the open field. I'm scared to death. You're
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: going to the house. Well, I mean, there's only a
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: very few of that. I'll take. I'll take Deebo, Samuel Speed,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: I'll take, um, I'll take What's I'll take Seedee Lamb Speed,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: I'll take. I mean, there's there's a plenty of mouth
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: justin Jefferson. You gotta go with those guys in the
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: first round, though, Okay, maybe I trade like I'm like,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I'm with Pete if I could trade back if I
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: had the first overall pick, unless like one of those
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: guys just jumps off at the page and I just
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: have to have him, like he's a difference maker. Trade
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: back to five or six if you can go get
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: a receiver you need speed now. But I haven't done anywhere.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like we've done work. Maybe Hutchinson's
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: like the like the next Nick Bosa. Well then guess what,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I'm taking them number one. And by the way, the
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: free agent market if receivers got a hit last night
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: with Chris Godward. Terry's a c L. I thought it
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: was his m c L. They had a L. So
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: he's out for the yearn who I read? Because this
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: afternoon the first report was M c L. Right, and
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: then they went they did another test and it was
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: the A C L. Yeah, that's not good. So that
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  Speaker 1: was Keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Open up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning one
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: by Robert Mundavi. And I think, um, we kept it
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  Speaker 1: real with a really long list of things on offense. Yeah,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of holes. Let's come back in social
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: media questions. They'll cheer us all up. It always does.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Sony he loves him, love it, Pete loves him. We
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  Speaker 1: all love them. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour and it's
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: time for social media questions. We put the bat signal
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  Speaker 1: out each Monday on Twitter. Here's the best we've come
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: up with. Today's a lot by the way at Duvall
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  Speaker 1: Underscore twenty four. I know James Robinson is a fan favorite.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: I don't like him too, but why does he look
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: so slow? A few runs he has on the outside
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: looked like it took him fifteen minutes to try to
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: turn the corner, which he didn't. Pete, Well, I'm gonna
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that's something I was getting into when
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: we talked about core players. James Robinson is a good
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: running back. He's a he's a grinder. But they don't
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: they need and they have et M. So obviously he's
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: on the roster when he comes back from injury. But
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: they need an explosive player at the running back position.
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  Speaker 1: And there were times on Sunday where there were holes
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  Speaker 1: and it looked like he should add more than what
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: he had. They and they drafted e t In by
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: the way, got hurt, but James beat up to He's
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: got a heel and knee. It's not I mean, the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: kid was averaging over five yards of carry before. He's
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  Speaker 1: a good runner. To what you just said is nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: You're going in. I mean, listen, you're falling for the
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  Speaker 1: same trapper. Obviously, No, I'm not. I think he's a
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: good back, but you need a change of pace, explosive back,
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  Speaker 1: and they don't have that right now. Well that's fair,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: but that is I mean, James Rumson's a starting NFL back.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: If you average five yards and carry, you're starting back.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: But now, if you would have told me you made
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: the comment, if you'd have made the comment like he's
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: mark Ingram and you need Alvin Kamara with him, that's fair.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's fair.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: That's what they thought they had I think. Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not. I didn't see that in camp. By the way,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: there was nothing in camp that same. That was the
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: plan we were told. I get that, and I hope
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: it's the plan. That's right. I just didn't see it
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: in camp, did you no? No? Question Number two social media,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: we're often running on this one a Carnival Thomas question
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: for both Pete Why would Tony make a terrible head coach?
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: And Tony? Why would Pete make a terrible head coach? JP?
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  Speaker 1: Who would be worse? Well, Pete couldn't be a head
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Answer first, Pete could not be to make a terrible
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  Speaker 1: head coach because his emotions are all over the place.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: He can't handle losing. He'd be a bad loser. He'd
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: never be able to have a hard time moving on
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: to the next games, to get emotional on the sidelines,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: training thought on the sidelines, Helly, he wouldn't be on
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: time his meetings would start late. He wouldn't be a
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: good head coach. That sounds familiar. That's not accurate at all.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Outside I would have a hard time getting over losing.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: That's true, but I can move on. Um. Pete couldn't
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: be a head coach because he'd be too worried about like,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: we need to be more creative. I need more bunches.
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  Speaker 1: I need more like picks, rub rub picks, rued more
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: more of that. And he doesn't know anything else, and
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: he forget that you actually have to run the ball
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: and block people that you just can't rob little circles
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  Speaker 1: on the sideline, say rub here, pick here, bunch, bunch, bunch,
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  Speaker 1: because he doesn't know anything. Yes, I do. I know
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  Speaker 1: that you can do that because they've done done it before,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: They've done a couple of times, had success with it,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: So do it. I gotta say I'm siding with Pete
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  Speaker 1: on this one. That Tony would lose his mind on
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: the sideline and lose. So you're saying, wait, yeah, I
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: think so. I think so. You're an idiot. It's it's
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest from a football I picked the CLI
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  Speaker 1: too because he's been there and done it and he
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: knows what it takes to win, and he understands how
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: a team is built, and he understand but the other
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: side will give him about fifty five demerits for every
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: positive that he yet I mean, I mean, my problem
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: would be, here's my problem. If I'm in a game
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: and my kicker has a kick to tie the game late,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: and it's from thirty five yards and he misses it,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: I'm old school. I might want to grab his helmet
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  Speaker 1: and give him a choke. You know you've just thrown
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: around and I can't do that. Make your damn kick.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: I want to Even Pete agrees with me that I'd
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: be better. You're an idiot. You chose the guy that
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: did even choose himself. I would say, for the soundbites only,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: I would pick Pete. First of all, how great? How
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: great would it be if I was head coaching, you
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: were in the press during a press conference? How much
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: would you enjoy that? Oh? I make you cry? You'd
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: want to come after me standing for TV? Al right,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: next question, social media. We are rolling now at nine
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: oh four and more at this point, is there anything
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: to fix the undisciplined penalties? Off season? An off season?
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: I mean I mean they keep on making mistakes where
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: they extend drives and give up points. I mean they
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: were three and out on the opening drive out of
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: the gate, and it wasn't like it was a little
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: hands in the face. He ripped his help off. What
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: are we doing? How many? How many? How many? Where
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: do they ranking penalties were compared to the rest of
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: the league. That's an interesting question. And where do they
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: rank and penalties compared to the all time penalized teams? Tony,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: I told you this your team's back in the day.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Better Pete the better stat if you could find it.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: How many penalties does this team have that extended drives
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: that are basically like turnovers like that one the hands
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: of the face, that's a turnover. You're giving the ball
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: back to them. Mhm awful. They've done that in some
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: form of fashion. A lot, a lot awful, all right. Next,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: it's not just depenalty, it's when you do it like
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: so it's one of the things you can't have. Dumb team.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: It can't be a dumb like dumb football. They just
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: beat you every time. Dumb football kills you at Devil
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: X Jaguars. An next question, why do we make the
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: easy things look difficult and the hard things look impossible.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: For years we've had the same problems, no matter the staff.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: What's the solution. Are Trevor's problems fixable? He just doesn't
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: playing well? Also getting no help, Love you guys, Merry Christmas.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's a lot to digest. A lot
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: of mood swings there too. So I guess the main
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: question is why I think so hard, Because when you're
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: a bad football team, everything's hard. And we're a bad
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: football team right now. And you know, at the end
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: of the day, how do I say you almost get
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: what you deserve. You picked. If you pick the wrong
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: people and you have the wrong people leading, you're not
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: gonna have success. And I mean, I think it's pretty
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: clear that urban Meyer was not the right guy. Yeah,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: but you know what though, Tony, he had that quarterback
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: competition in the summer to help build resident Yeah, I mean,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: looking back on that, that might well, people, here's the thing,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: just a little hand at how much garbage was in
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: that building, and that thought, give me a break, quarterback. Yeah,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have a competition. See are you kidding? There?
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: You and I thought that was one of the first
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: things be, you and I talked about it. We weren't
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: as direct on the air because you know, early we're
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: trying to be support supportive. But you and I talked
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: about like how ridiculous that was, Like how taking away
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: reps from your starting quarterback to do some facade. I
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: have some facade out there. No, wait a second, you
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: weren't as direct on the air. You're right, But my
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: point is you and I had at all. We had
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: conversations about it. No, you're right, we did. We had
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of conversations. By the way, penalty wise, there
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: are one, two, three, four or five, six, seven seven
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: teams with more penalties than Jacksonville and there fourth in
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: the league and pre snap penalty so a lot of
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: pre snap mistakes too. Yeah, I would love to it
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: would be great, would be great. Someone actually did some
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: homework and like how many of the penalties extended drives?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Like they're off the field and extended to drive. M
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: not pretty? You know that. Next question social media, they're
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: rolling in to night at Zach Bierman. What are teams
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: doing to take Josh Allen out of the game and
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: should he be able to overcome that given he was
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: drafted to be a premier pass rusher. Well, of course
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: we've talked about this, but I'm not seeing anything. There's
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: no like purposeful like running guys at him, trying to
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: double them. I ain't. They're just blocking them. I've not
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: seen you said it. We're worth blocked him when they
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: played him a couple of weeks ago. He ran because
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: he ran lined into him. Pete, you have a fourty
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: year old who struggles to bend his knees and isn't
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: really moving that. Get on the edge, make him move
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: his feet, go speed to power. Change it up. Hey, Pete,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: we're on the show. Here's the other thing. Here's the
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: other thing. It's not like they're chipping them and doubling them.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: If you were paying attention. It's what I just said.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: You're too busy looking around your office. And whoever came
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: in said you didn't say exactly that. I didn't to
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: pay attention. Pay attention to the show, Pete, like I
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: do every day, every segment of every show, Tony Baselly,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Pete is locked in. Let me tell you what he
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: was late tonight. He was locked in when he showed up.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: I let you know I was to be late. First
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: of all, so I'm not late. If I tell you
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be, I mean we but but j Pte,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: we could forgive him for being late tonight because he
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: had that consultation and meeting about becoming the general. Did not.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: That's a lie. Pik stop saying that. That's not funny.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get me in trouble. That's not true. Kidding.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Everybody knows I'm kidding. I don't know. People sometimes, based
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: on some of the tweets weekend in social media, I
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: think some people think you're seriously until that hits Twitter.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: Jaguars look at Boselli for no, no, no, they have
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: a GM, Trent Baltons and GM. Just imagine in this
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: zoom interview today he wore the lumberjack shirt. Now that's bold,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: that would be bold lumberjack. It's kind of it's kind
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: of lumberjack ish. Was it was it for football? Are
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: you doing a game this week or something? What I'm doing?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: The game? I'm doing the Titans game Thursday night of Nashville. Okay,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: a good game Titans. Titans. Hey, hey they tightens. They're
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: only a game game and a half ahead of the Colts.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: Now here. They come, Jimmy Garoppolo is playing good football?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Buck one another social media question, keep them rolling in
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: here at rich Ato. If the teams were open to it,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: would you trade the first overall pick from Mike Tomlin
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: or Sean Payton? No? No, no, first overall? No second round? Sure,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: when's the last time that happened? Was that Bill? Bill Belichick?
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Didn't Gruden get Yeah? Gruden Tampa Beta, Oakland Raiders, Tampa.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: I know, I know Belichick got traded from the Jets,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: the Patriots or Patriots and Jets whatever it was back then. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: um well yeah, what is it? Would do that? Would
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: you give a second round or ever Sean Payton or
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Mike Tomin Yes, I would do I would do. Wow, Terab,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: what's not good? Why are you? Why are you still
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: wearing the cards? I want to prove that it's not
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: a lumberjack. It's more of like a like it's like
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: a surfer. I'm at the beach in California's Little Chili,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: just out of the water, Just's California. I was hanging
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: in California. I was hanging ten, hanging ten on my board.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: That's the biggest surfboard in the history of surfboards. Yeah,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: so they gotta keep warm. You're a little chili. One
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: more social media question at Reno High Tower, twenty one
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Jags in the playoffs in four over or under? I
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: say under under. We'll get a coach and then it
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: knows what they're doing. They'll be under for sure. Maybe
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: next year. Next year. I was the next year he
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: said next year. I look, I thought they'd be in
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: the playoff. I thought they have a real shot to
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: be in the playoffs in twenty two. They're not. There's
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: no way. Yeah. Okay. And and by the way, if
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence isn't the real deal, they won't be in
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: the playoffs until so get used to that. If he's not,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: that'll do it for social media questions. One a way
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: to bring us down. We'll come back in a moment.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, we're gonna hear from him coming up. No,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: no note. We we had him on post game yesterday
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: with some comments about a certain somebody on this program.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: You're taking shots. We'll find out. I hope it'll go
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: around the NFL in just a moment. You don't want
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: to miss this. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli. Yesterday on Jaguars Post Game on
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars Radio Network, Mike Dempsey, Fred Taylor and I
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: had some final thoughts before we closed out the show.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: It was a little boxing conversation. Frank Gore was in
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: the boxing ring the other day. Fred Taylor knows him. Well,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Here's how the show ended yesterday on Jaguars Radio. So
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: the day after Christmas, it's the Jaguars and the New
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: York Jets at MetLife Stadium a one o'clock kickoff time,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: December in week number sixteen, Fred, Great to see you.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: What's gonna w next week? Christmas? Yeah? I wish I
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: was out there. I mean we'll get a w you
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: wish you were out there? So yeah, yeah, ten years removed,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: I can do All these guys are boxing late and
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: I can still front the ball twelve carries or maybe eight?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: Would you ever consider boxing? No, but I will come
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: down to fight though if you if you did consider it, Like,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: who would you like to get a piece of in
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: the ring? Um? Probably Pete Prisco. I'll tell Pete all
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: the time he started the fragile Fred thing, but he
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: says he did. But Peter's my guy. You know, we
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: we've developed the friendship. But I like to put him
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: in there with no head gear or nothing. Let me
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: just bang him up. Sure you have the height and
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: reach advantage, that's for sure. Oh for sure. I just
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: hit him like King Cooper, Mike Tyson, just belly shots
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: all day. Oh that was classic Fred Taylor yesterday, Pete,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: how about it? You know he I'm bringing him into
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: our studio in a couple of weeks to do something
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: with with Ray Lewis, to help him try and get
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I might cancel that. Look, Fred's kidding.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: We have a great relationship. He's one of my favorite
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: guys I ever covered. And uh, and I did not
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: start fragile Fred. I promise you I did not start
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: fragil I am guilty of one thing. Back and walked
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: up to Fred when he was a young player, and
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: I tricked him into saying he could rush for two
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: thousand yards in a season by saying, Hey, Fred, you
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: know these guys have a role rushed for two thousand yard?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: Do you think you can get there? Oh? I get
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: the two thousand yards, and I had my head lie
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: Fred the other I could rush for two thousand and
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: so I that was I did do that, but I fragile.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Fred was not me because I I am one of
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: the few guys around that team that took up for him,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: because I know a bad that growing was ripped off
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: the bone and couughlan listed him at week the week,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: every single week, which was it was not unfair to
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor. I'd still like to see put you in
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: the boxing ring. No, you would need beat daylights. But
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: I fight though. Let's go around the National Can I bring?
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Can I bring like a baseball bat in there or
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: something you need? You need all the help you can get. Yeah,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: that's right, Fred can bring he can bring it. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go around the NFL. Hit some scores, some highlights. Chargers
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  Speaker 1: fell to the Chiefs on Thursday, the Colts over the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: Saturday seen the Bills knocked off the Panthers fourteen. The
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  Speaker 1: Lions we mentioned them earlier. A fullback touchdown Dan Miller
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  Speaker 1: with a call courtesy of w x y T FM,
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  Speaker 1: N the Ticket and the Detroit Lions Radio Network. Off
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  Speaker 1: Takes Turns, Takes the give rolls right, grows talk to
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  Speaker 1: the touch, the Detroit Lions hard run, fake left, golf
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  Speaker 1: roll right, father's full back, and the Lions have added
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  Speaker 1: to that lead. I want a win for the Lions feet.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars lost, so they're number one in the draft order.
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  Speaker 1: Now the Lions get their second win. Yeah, and you
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  Speaker 1: know what, that was a bad showing for Arizona. That's
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  Speaker 1: a bad loss. That that can't happen quick thing. I
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  Speaker 1: want to ask Tony if he knew this. They showed
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  Speaker 1: Brunel on the sideline during the game and he had
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  Speaker 1: a play sheet. Was he called him plays on Sunday?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, Dan Campbell calls place, YEA,
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  Speaker 1: I might have to go. You might have to ask
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  Speaker 1: he's had a play sheet all year? They because he's no.
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  Speaker 1: He looked like he was engaged, and I'm telling him,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he was called bass plays. I bet you, I'll
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  Speaker 1: bet you anything you want, Pete. He was not calling place.
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  Speaker 1: I know maybe he wasn't, but it looked like he
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  Speaker 1: was more involved than that. But hey, maybe that's what
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  Speaker 1: would be a good thing for Brunell. You can hired
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  Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell's being the head coach and bring Brunell back
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  Speaker 1: to Jackson will be offensive coordinator. Would you hire here's
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  Speaker 1: a question for we didn't talk about this next head coach.
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  Speaker 1: Does he need to have head coach NFL head coaching
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  Speaker 1: experience for you to hire? Nope? Would you would you
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  Speaker 1: favor a guy who had head coaching experience? Nope? I
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  Speaker 1: think you need to be I've been a play caller
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  Speaker 1: at some point. I think I think I would at
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  Speaker 1: this point. You know why. I think you need like
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  Speaker 1: somebody who's done it before, like this place, like you
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  Speaker 1: need to get it back on track, and like I'd
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  Speaker 1: worry about a young guy who's never a young guy
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  Speaker 1: who's never done it before, Pete, I'd worry about. So
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  Speaker 1: you just narrowed it down to a guy like Josh McDaniels,
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't just eliminated Byron Left which I just
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  Speaker 1: eliminated Kellenmore. You just eliminated Kevin O'Connell. You just eliminated Todd.
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  Speaker 1: Todd Bowls could be a possibility Todd Bowls. You didn't
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  Speaker 1: listen to what I said. I'm not saying I eliminate anyone.
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  Speaker 1: I would lean towards like somebody who's not been a
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  Speaker 1: head coach before, like a Byron Left, which Kevin O'Connell
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  Speaker 1: or Kellenmore. They would have to blow my socks off
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  Speaker 1: for me not to go with the guy who had experienced,
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  Speaker 1: like a Todd Bowls or a um or Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 1: or Josh McDaniel or Jim Calwell or whoever's out there
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  Speaker 1: that has experience. Some more games around the NFL, Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: over the Jets thirty one four, Cowboys beat the Giants
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  Speaker 1: twenty one six. The Steelers over the Titans. The Steelers
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  Speaker 1: are covered a fumble Bill hill Grove on one or
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  Speaker 1: two point five w d V and the Steelers radio network.
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  Speaker 1: He steps in. We're a one back, look at a
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  Speaker 1: slot right tight end right read deploys to the left
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  Speaker 1: side of the formation. Oh, he fumbled. A stamp it's there,
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  Speaker 1: and a big paddle up and the Steelers say they
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  Speaker 1: have it. Who has the ball? The fumbled snap ends
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  Speaker 1: up in Steeler's hand, Yes, yes, yes, fired up. Steelers
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  Speaker 1: win it. The Titans, who they'll get a little shaky
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  Speaker 1: in the a f C South right now. We lost
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  Speaker 1: four and five. I told I said here first, PiZZ said,
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  Speaker 1: there's no chance to here come the Colts three games left, one,
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  Speaker 1: two games back? Would surprise you? Who do the Colts
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  Speaker 1: have this week? Stand by? You think you you really think?
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  Speaker 1: In three games are gonna blow They're gonna blow that
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  Speaker 1: Culture at Arizona. Okay, culture in Arizona? Okay? Would you
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  Speaker 1: surprise you have? The Cult beat the Arizona Cardinals, who
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  Speaker 1: were going the wrong way? Okay? What is the project?
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  Speaker 1: Hold on? Who's Who's Who's Week six? Who's Week seventeen
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  Speaker 1: for the Colts at the home against the Raiders at
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals at Cardinals home against the Raiders at the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: for the Colts and the Titans have the Texans. The
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  Speaker 1: Titans have to win one game, that's right. No, they
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  Speaker 1: have to win two. Sorry if they know if they lose.
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  Speaker 1: If the Titans win one of the next three and
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  Speaker 1: the Colts win all three, the Colts win the division.
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  Speaker 1: Because the one the Titans, Titans win one and the
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  Speaker 1: Colts lose one, they win the division. That's right. Titans
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  Speaker 1: are home against San Fran, home against Miami, and then
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  Speaker 1: at Houston. They're winning too. They're done. We'll remember that.
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  Speaker 1: Moving ahead now to the Bengals at the Broncos Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Boyd with a long touchdown. Dan Horde on Cincinnati's ESPN
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  Speaker 1: fifteen thirty and the Bengals radio network. The Bengals don't huddle.
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  Speaker 1: They snap at to Burrow, throw us down field for
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  Speaker 1: a wide boy catch us at the thirty, great up
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  Speaker 1: cut back toward the mind of the ten, the five
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  Speaker 1: touchdown Bengals a fifty six yard answer Choe Burrow to
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd and the Bengals are back in front. About
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals, Pete, it's a good team. It's a good
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  Speaker 1: young team. And they got a big game this week
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  Speaker 1: with the Ravens. And remember last time they played the Ravens,
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  Speaker 1: they dominated them. And the Ravens are banged up across
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  Speaker 1: the board. Man their secondary is bad right now. So
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  Speaker 1: I look, the Bengals have a real shot to win
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  Speaker 1: that division. About that a real chance. They were terrible
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  Speaker 1: last year, good this years over the Falcons thirteen. And
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  Speaker 1: then the Packers held on against the Ravens. They went
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  Speaker 1: for two point try late the Ravens did it failed,
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  Speaker 1: the Packers win. Wayne arav He had the call on
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  Speaker 1: the Packers radio network. Motion from a tight end of
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  Speaker 1: the wing of the left side Huntley in the shotgun,
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  Speaker 1: let Tavia's bury to his right, snapped. Huntley rolls right,
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  Speaker 1: throws right side of the ends, Hennison complete, incomplete, right
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  Speaker 1: corner of the ends, on in front of the pylon,
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  Speaker 1: and incomplete. The Packers are gonna hang on and win
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  Speaker 1: this game. Pete, how do you feel about those calls?
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  Speaker 1: Going for two? Well? Did Wayne not realize that there
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  Speaker 1: was also an onside kick coming to there? Wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: left look? That one I had no problem with. And
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  Speaker 1: here's why they The Packers had done whatever they wanted
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  Speaker 1: to on offense. They were really struggling in the secondary.
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  Speaker 1: They had the momentum. I don't. I don't have any
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  Speaker 1: issue with that one. I normally I would push back
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  Speaker 1: on something like that, but that situation, go for it.
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  Speaker 1: And Huntley played well. By the way he played, he
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  Speaker 1: did some really good things. The Saints over the Bucketeers.
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  Speaker 1: The last team that shut out Tom Brady was is
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  Speaker 1: coached by Nick Saban. That's how long ago that was
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  Speaker 1: nine nothing to score. Yesterday, Saints over the Buccaneers. Monday
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  Speaker 1: Night Football. A couple of games one underway right now,
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  Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders and the Cleveland Browns, and then
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  Speaker 1: later tonight the Minnesota Vikings and the Chicago Bears, who
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  Speaker 1: you got tonight in a double header. Guys, that was terrible.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, that was the worst one I've ever had.
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  Speaker 1: As almost as bad as your jacket because he was
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  Speaker 1: you know why, because there were two games and he
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  Speaker 1: was kind of discombobulated a little bit. They threw him
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  Speaker 1: off his boat. Almost as bad as his jacket. The
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  Speaker 1: Raiders COVID has just wrecked them, and then no quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: are down to the third Street quarterback in tonight, I
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  Speaker 1: like Minnesota talking about people haven't paid attention. Chicago's ravaged
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  Speaker 1: by covids as Cleveland. Almost the entire secondaries out. Kirk
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  Speaker 1: Cousins has a huge day. Raiders lead at seven nothing,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, six minutes left in the second quarter.
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  Speaker 1: And Tuesday see to let the Rams Washington Philly. That
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  Speaker 1: means go Rams Philly will By the way, the NFL
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  Speaker 1: loves they don't like COVID, but they love playing games
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  Speaker 1: every night of the week. I can tell you that ratings, Banans, Bonanza, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great week, Peter. All right, guys, Merry Christmas
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  Speaker 1: to you. I don't Christmas Pete Priscoe, the Grinch laugh.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't bring it out tonight. Joe Fortunato in the audio,
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  Speaker 1: tell my wife. He made fun of my jacket about me,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, I like it. It's comfortable. He was coming
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  Speaker 1: at me. I had to bring it back to him.
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  Speaker 1: Chick Chicks dig. That's Tony Vaselli. I'm J. P. Shadrick.
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  Speaker 1: We've had enough. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars
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