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Wired To Hunt Podcast #174: Rut Radio 10/11/17 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number one and
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Speaker 1: today the show. We're back with another rut radio episode
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Speaker 1: in which we're getting real time updates from hunters across
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Speaker 1: the country about current deer activity and behavior and the
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Speaker 1: tactics that are working right now. All right, welcome to
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Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by sit
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Speaker 1: Ka Gear, and we are back for another one of
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Speaker 1: our radio episodes in which we are checking in every
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Speaker 1: week throughout the two thousand seventeen hunting season, chatting with
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Speaker 1: your hunters from across the country to find out about
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Speaker 1: the current deer activity, uh, current running activity, possibly is
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Speaker 1: that starts ramping up dear behavior, current conditions, and how
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Speaker 1: that's impacting deer. And we even get into the different
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Speaker 1: types of tactics that people are trying right now, whether
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Speaker 1: or not those are working, and then what we're expecting
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Speaker 1: in the days to come. Um, so that's the game
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Speaker 1: plan for today. We've been doing this for a few
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Speaker 1: weeks already this season. I've already been getting people telling
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Speaker 1: me about how it's been helping them. So that's really encouraging. Uh,
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Speaker 1: And it means Spencer, you're doing a good job. Well,
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Speaker 1: thank you. That's that's the idea. So I hope you're
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Speaker 1: getting that kind of feedback. Yeah. Absolutely, And uh, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, I know, we've got a good lineup for
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Speaker 1: today's episode. I don't have a whole lot to share today,
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Speaker 1: unfortunately from Michigan. As far as my report, I did
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Speaker 1: hunt four days. Um, I guess, I mean, I guess
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Speaker 1: I do have stuff to share. It's not necessarily exciting,
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Speaker 1: but um, I'm look at me, I'm just like kind
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Speaker 1: of going off on wild tangents in Michigan. My my
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Speaker 1: radio report in Michigan was that we've had hot weather
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Speaker 1: and lead to pretty slow dear movement, and it kind
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Speaker 1: of looks like that's gonna be the case for like
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Speaker 1: the next two weeks. Like our long term forecast for
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Speaker 1: the most part is uh is pretty warm. There's a
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Speaker 1: few little cold friends in there that might be spikes
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Speaker 1: of activity, but in general, it's kind of a dire
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Speaker 1: long term forecast for me here in southern Michigan at least. Um,
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Speaker 1: what's what's going on up in your neck of the woods. Well,
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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you because I have not been out
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Speaker 1: now in quite a while, so I am not Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the great White Hunter kills the giant, that's right. I'm
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Speaker 1: not accustomed to filling a tag in September, but that's
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Speaker 1: what I did this year. So I do not have
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Speaker 1: much intel on South Dakota. But for the rest of
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Speaker 1: the country, the people I talked to this week, we
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Speaker 1: have Brodie Swisher in Tennessee with bow hunting dot Com,
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Speaker 1: then Justin Longclow with Louisia and a bowl hunter in Louisiana.
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Speaker 1: Then we have Brett Joy in New Hampshire with Parallel
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Speaker 1: forty three and Ben Harshine in Iowa with hunt Tera Mapping.
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Speaker 1: Now all four of those guys, um kind of tell
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Speaker 1: down the same two things right now. It's the food
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Speaker 1: sources and the weather. There's been a change in the
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Speaker 1: food sources. Um. You know, as you might expect, the
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Speaker 1: oaks are becoming really popular. That's really been suppressing dear
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Speaker 1: movement as far as visible dear movement, I guess. And
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Speaker 1: then the other thing is the weather. Um. The people
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Speaker 1: who give us favorable reports are like coming off of
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Speaker 1: the cold front, and the people who give us poor
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Speaker 1: reports are going to be going into a cold front,
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Speaker 1: So you kind of have both ends of the scale there, um.
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Speaker 1: And you'll notice that this week from Louisiana all the
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Speaker 1: way to Iowa. Interesting. Well, that that certainly makes sense,
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Speaker 1: and that's that's right in line what I've been seeing
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Speaker 1: and from what I've been here and too. So I hope,
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Speaker 1: I hope that next week I'm gonna have a good
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Speaker 1: report for you and a good story to tell, because
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Speaker 1: there is a cold front hitting tomorrow. Well actually when
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Speaker 1: this podcast airs, it will be that day. There's a
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Speaker 1: cold front hitting in Michigan. Temperatures are dropping from the
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Speaker 1: day before by like at least where I'm at, by
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Speaker 1: like thirteen degrees, and it's gonna be really rainy all
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Speaker 1: morning and then stopping in the afternoon. And so I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna sneak deep into a piece of public land that
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Speaker 1: I scouted this spring and try to use that wind
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Speaker 1: and rain to get in there undetected and setting set
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Speaker 1: up close to a buckbed that I found this spring.
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Speaker 1: So hopefully I'm gonna have a successful public land story
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Speaker 1: for you next week. Yeah, in the Midwest. That sounds
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Speaker 1: exactly like what Ben Harshin just talked about. He picked
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Speaker 1: out Wednesday and Sunday as two days in particularly where
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Speaker 1: the weather looks really favorable, and I think at this
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Speaker 1: time of year you probably agree. But um, it's all
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Speaker 1: about you know, playing the hand that's dealt to you.
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Speaker 1: And so it's not being too aggressive if it's eighty
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Speaker 1: five degrees during the day. Um, it's if you get
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Speaker 1: a cold front, maybe hunting one of those better stands.
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Speaker 1: But for the most part, the ideal scenario right now
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Speaker 1: is probably just to hold out for another you know,
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Speaker 1: week or two, until we hit better pre rut or
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Speaker 1: until you know, better weather comes. Yeah, yeah, agree, or
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Speaker 1: you know, if you if you you know, lots of
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Speaker 1: people can only hunt when they got the time to hunt,
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Speaker 1: and so that's what I always recommend is if it's
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Speaker 1: poor conditions but you still want to hunt, just go
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Speaker 1: to a piece of public land that you're not worried
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Speaker 1: about messing up. Or if you've got several different pieces
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Speaker 1: of ground you can hunt and there's one that you're
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Speaker 1: not really expecting to try to target a buck, you know,
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Speaker 1: go there and hunt for some doughs, or just go
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Speaker 1: enjoy a nice night in the woods, but don't go
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Speaker 1: mucking up your best stuff if you don't have you know,
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Speaker 1: the right factors, the right conditions that could make it,
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Speaker 1: you know, higher odds exactly. Well, hopefully you'll be listening
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Speaker 1: to this on Wednesday, and uh somebody will have you know,
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Speaker 1: a great hunter repoured on like we talked about in
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Speaker 1: the episode. I think that's a good plan. I hope
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Speaker 1: that happens for everybody out there. So Spencer, I will
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Speaker 1: let you take it from here, all right, talk to
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Speaker 1: you next week. Mark, thanks man. Before we get to
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Speaker 1: of bow Hunting dot Com. Now, Brodie and tennessee what
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Speaker 1: would you say the deer activities ben lately on the
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Speaker 1: scale of one to ten scale of one to ten,
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Speaker 1: I would say, uh, we're probably we were probably in that.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say five. Honestly, Uh uh just just with
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Speaker 1: the transition. What we're seeing right now, Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: call it the low, call it um just in my
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Speaker 1: mind again, it's just that transition period. You know, we've
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Speaker 1: had these uh bean fields, I yelled out for the
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Speaker 1: most part. And uh so we're seeing that transition from
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Speaker 1: the deer in the fields hammering the beans too. Now
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden disappeared and uh and so um,
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Speaker 1: you know those guys continue to sit there and and
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Speaker 1: and you know they'll cry the crowd of tears about
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Speaker 1: the low, but those of deer, honestly, they're just transition.
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Speaker 1: We're seeing that activity that was out invisible from the
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Speaker 1: optics and sitting there watching field and and the post
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Speaker 1: positions out there. Uh. Now of a sudden, all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, they're they're not there, and they're just kind
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Speaker 1: of slipping off. And it's uh for our area, our
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Speaker 1: neck of the woods, it's it's white oaks dropping hitting
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Speaker 1: the ground. They have not disappeared, they're not laying low.
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Speaker 1: It's just they're moving on the food source. So so
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Speaker 1: the visibility wise, it's gotten tough. Yeah. We uh we're
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Speaker 1: in our second week, uh season now going in our
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Speaker 1: third week, I guess now. And uh that first couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks, we were seeing the bucks still batched up
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Speaker 1: and uh tolerating each other, and then the velvet came
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Speaker 1: off and and all of a sudden, they're just a
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Speaker 1: different creature. And uh it began to see less and
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Speaker 1: less of the big Bucks and uh those little bucks
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Speaker 1: what we're seeing now out in the opening big Bucks
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Speaker 1: have sleeked off a little bit, holding tighter to cover.
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Speaker 1: So the activity, yeah, it's it's definitely backed off in
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Speaker 1: the last two weeks since opening day. I'd say it's
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Speaker 1: in that five to six range as far as activity,
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Speaker 1: But it's just a matter of getting in there tighter
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Speaker 1: to cover and finding that food source that they're heading
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Speaker 1: right now. Well, Brodie, how aggressive do you think hunters
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Speaker 1: should be in that area then? Uh, if they need
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Speaker 1: to get a little deeper in the woods, yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: I think it. You know, to me, it really goes
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Speaker 1: on what they're finding from those trail cameras, you know,
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Speaker 1: and I hate to get so locked into, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: relying on the trail camera but man, it is it's
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Speaker 1: that recond it's that boasted recent information telling you what
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Speaker 1: they're doing right now. And and the guy that's got
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Speaker 1: that and that intel and can say, how you know
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Speaker 1: what these deer are on this consistent pattern here, they
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Speaker 1: can be a little more addresses you know. Um. But
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys think, oh man, they're
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Speaker 1: they're not in the bean fields, they're not out the
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Speaker 1: corner stuffle. They've got to be off in the timber,
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Speaker 1: and they just take off blindly, uh looking for that
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Speaker 1: needle in the haystack, and take off through the timber.
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Speaker 1: And I think they can do a lot of a
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Speaker 1: lot of damage real quick when they just throw all
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Speaker 1: regards to the wind out the window and just take
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Speaker 1: off in that cover. But again, going back to those
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Speaker 1: trail cameras, Um, that to me tells me I can
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Speaker 1: be a little more aggressive. I know they're coming in
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Speaker 1: and out here, they're using this food source here, and
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Speaker 1: then therefore you can you can play that wind. But
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Speaker 1: the guy that just takes off gets aggressive with no
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Speaker 1: regard to wind direction and how they approach those uh
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Speaker 1: timber food sources. I think there's a lot more harm
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Speaker 1: than good. I still like to play play a little safe,
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Speaker 1: you know, on this time of season, uh, mid early
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Speaker 1: to mid October. Um, and unless I know I've got
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Speaker 1: that that timber food source, those acorns, right, I know
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Speaker 1: I can get in slipping the cover uh and not
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Speaker 1: bust out. Um. You know, I'm gonna play a little
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Speaker 1: more safe and back off again if I if I
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Speaker 1: know exactly through trail cameras where I I know those
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Speaker 1: gear doing how they're hanging out, and I can get
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Speaker 1: around that that food source in the timber or that
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Speaker 1: betting you're in the timber, uh not blow them out
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Speaker 1: with the wind. Uh, then I'll get more aggressive. And uh.
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Speaker 1: It's a great tactic early season, you know. But a
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Speaker 1: lot of that again goes back to what you're seeing
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Speaker 1: on that trail camera. Uh, that information you're getting uh
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Speaker 1: and and and just being able to get in and
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Speaker 1: out without busting that uh busting that cover and uh
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Speaker 1: blowing them out too quick in the season. You know
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Speaker 1: a lot of guys do that very thing and wonder
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Speaker 1: where the deer went. But they've again just disregarding any
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Speaker 1: of their wind directions and and just put too much
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Speaker 1: pressure too quick on the on that particular deer. Now,
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Speaker 1: are you personally hunting any mornings yet? Are you still
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Speaker 1: strictly hunting evenings. Yeah, I've got a couple of places
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Speaker 1: that i'll catch my my personal property. Here's fifty acres
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Speaker 1: that I live on. It's just a little uh, mostly timber,
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Speaker 1: and it's just a perfect funnel between agg country across
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Speaker 1: the road, a field across the road and then a
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Speaker 1: big bottom on the back end. So it's just it's
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Speaker 1: just a perfect funnel for deer and I can slip
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Speaker 1: in catch them coming back across the road. And so
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Speaker 1: I hit some mornings around here, and that's how you know,
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Speaker 1: it's honestly been it's been slow. You know, we've had
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Speaker 1: beans yelled out quick across the road and and um,
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Speaker 1: we just not have that keivity in the morning. So
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Speaker 1: afternoons have honestly been where the activity has been from me.
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Speaker 1: Very little action in the mornings, um, very little, you know,
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Speaker 1: it seemed very little in the morning. So it's it's
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Speaker 1: definitely been thus far as it's been afternoon hunts and
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Speaker 1: in those agg fields. And again that's that's changing right now.
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Speaker 1: I just hunted a corn stubble field the other night,
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Speaker 1: and the deer have been there. It was adjacent to
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Speaker 1: a bean field that they've been in real hard the
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Speaker 1: first two weeks. And then again this corn field got
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Speaker 1: cut and a lot of corn on the ground in
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Speaker 1: the corn field. You know, it's going through the other
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Speaker 1: night looking and so there's been you know, deer in
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Speaker 1: that that failed every night last couple of nights. And
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Speaker 1: so that's kind of where I shifted gears, coming off
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Speaker 1: that yellowed out being filled, going into corn stubble, and
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Speaker 1: then again just trying to pick off some spots where
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Speaker 1: I can slip into the timber and um, you know,
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Speaker 1: playing the wind and new it right and get into
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Speaker 1: the timber and cut eat coast those white oak a
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Speaker 1: few food sources. That's where they're between the corn stubble
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Speaker 1: and white oaks. That's really where I'm seeing the activity
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Speaker 1: right now. We're going forward in this next week or so.
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Speaker 1: What do you think that dear activity is going to
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Speaker 1: be then in Tennessee? You know, I think I think, guys,
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Speaker 1: we're finally getting the first uh yeah, I don't want
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Speaker 1: to even say cold snap because it's not cold snap,
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Speaker 1: but it's going from eighty eight degrees we had yesterday tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be down at the low seventies up leaped
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Speaker 1: for the hide. So we're finally getting some of that
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Speaker 1: cooler weather that I anticipated will help out. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we've had deer uh and a lot of in a
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Speaker 1: lot of situations. You know, my truck camps, I'm seeing
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Speaker 1: deer running the night shift, you know, just almost doing
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Speaker 1: the nocturnal thing, and and uh, a lot of other
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Speaker 1: things is hot. A lot of that, I think because
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Speaker 1: guys hammered it out the first week this season and
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Speaker 1: because of that pressure and bumped them back. But um,
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Speaker 1: I really love to see uh, you know, from the
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Speaker 1: activity picking up some cooler weather. Um, and you know,
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Speaker 1: food sources getting uh, concentrating those deer a little better.
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Speaker 1: You know, you get you get bean fields and corn
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Speaker 1: fields and and all the you know, all the food
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Speaker 1: sources at one time, some white oaks dropping for someon
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Speaker 1: and there's so much food. Oftentimes a deer don't have
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Speaker 1: to go far, and the beans yellow out, and the
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Speaker 1: corn gets picked and and uh some of those you
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Speaker 1: know per simmons run out and it just gets to where,
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Speaker 1: you know, now you can start to concentrate. Food sources
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Speaker 1: are definitely more concentrating for those deer and you can
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Speaker 1: start picking away at those those hotspots on where they
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Speaker 1: are now instead of just the smartest bort of food
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Speaker 1: form out there. Uh So, I think we're definitely gonna
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Speaker 1: see that this next week is again cooler temperatures and
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Speaker 1: then just as we ramp up towards the pre run,
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Speaker 1: so based on you know, cooler temperatures and concentration on
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Speaker 1: food sources, I think you know we're gonna be looking
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Speaker 1: this next week or two, you know, bumping up to
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Speaker 1: that seven seven out of ten as far as dear
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Speaker 1: activity here in West Tennessee. All right, well, thanks for
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Speaker 1: joining me this week, Rody, I look forward to talking
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Speaker 1: to you on later in the season. Thanks Spencer, appreciate
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Speaker 1: your time, all right and joining us on the line.
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Speaker 1: Next is the founder of Louisiana bowl hunter dot Com,
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Speaker 1: Justin line Cloth Justin and Louisiana. What would you say
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Speaker 1: the deer activity has been lately on the scale of
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Speaker 1: one to ten, I give it about a six and
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Speaker 1: a half. We've had some extremely high temperatures here lately
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Speaker 1: with the heat indecks and triple digits. Uh It's it's
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Speaker 1: been extremely dry for about the past six weeks and uh,
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Speaker 1: deer just aren't moving a whole lot during the day
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Speaker 1: right now. Now you are located where at in Louisiana,
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Speaker 1: justin what would you say the dear activity has been
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Speaker 1: like in the rest of the state beyond your reach.
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Speaker 1: I'm in southwest Louisiana now and the rest of the
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Speaker 1: state A lot of the deer are still on their
15:34
Speaker 1: summer patterns. So some guys have been having some pretty
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Speaker 1: good luck catching some big bucks that are still moving
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Speaker 1: on the same summer patterns. Going back and forth between
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Speaker 1: feet and betting. Now, what do the summer patterns look
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Speaker 1: like in Louisiana as far as um, what betting is
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Speaker 1: and what food is? Uh? For the bucks? The food
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Speaker 1: is going to be uh, usually cutovers of some sort.
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Speaker 1: Most of our area is consists of logging company property. Um,
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Speaker 1: see you've got fresh cutovers, they're gonna have a lot
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Speaker 1: of brows. The bucks will tend to hang out in
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Speaker 1: that and and eat there as well. Know, it's been
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Speaker 1: extremely dry the past few weeks, so the acorns will
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Speaker 1: started to drop prematurely. Uh. And those are really good
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Speaker 1: areas to key on as well. So besides the summer patterns,
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Speaker 1: are you seeing some rutting activity in the state. Yes, absolutely.
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Speaker 1: In my area, I've noticed the Tarso glands starting to
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Speaker 1: get dark. Louisiana has a pretty interesting story. It was
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Speaker 1: restocked back in the sixties with deer as far away
16:37
Speaker 1: as from Wisconsin, so you can hunt the rut pretty much.
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Speaker 1: At any point between September and February, the southwest part
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Speaker 1: of the state where I'm at, the deer will be
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Speaker 1: starting to rut heavy literally any day. Are you seeing
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Speaker 1: a lot of rut sign as far as scrapes and
16:54
Speaker 1: rubs right now, I'm not seeing. I haven't seen any
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Speaker 1: scrapes or rubs in my area yet. I've seen some
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Speaker 1: guys from other parts of the state reporting straits and rubs. Um,
17:05
Speaker 1: I said. The only rud activity I've seen is in
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Speaker 1: my area. The bachelor groups have split up. UM. I
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Speaker 1: was watching one group of about six bucks. Um they've
17:14
Speaker 1: they split up about a month ago, and UH and
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Speaker 1: I have noticed that their Tarsa glands are getting dark
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Speaker 1: as well. I've also noticed that the doughs have kicked
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Speaker 1: out there. I've been watching a dough that's got a
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Speaker 1: u a set of twin fawns and she's no longer
17:30
Speaker 1: with them, So I assume she's going to be going
17:32
Speaker 1: into estris here pretty soon. Well, what does the typical
17:35
Speaker 1: setup look like for you this time of year? Are
17:37
Speaker 1: you hunting mornings or more evenings? Uh, it's pretty much
17:41
Speaker 1: mornings right now, just because it's it's coolest. Uh. You know,
17:44
Speaker 1: the heat in deck is up over a hundred in
17:46
Speaker 1: the evenings, and some of my morning activity has been
17:49
Speaker 1: later morning. UM, so I've been able to get in
17:52
Speaker 1: and uh take advantage of the slightly cooler weather in
17:56
Speaker 1: the mornings. It's it's just too hot and too many
17:59
Speaker 1: mosquitoes right now out for me at this point. We
18:01
Speaker 1: do have a coal front coming through. Actually right now
18:03
Speaker 1: it's raining and I'm gonna have some so much cooler
18:06
Speaker 1: temperatures here over the next few days. Well, speaking of
18:09
Speaker 1: that cold front, do you think that's going to change
18:11
Speaker 1: the deer activity in this next week or so? And
18:13
Speaker 1: what do you think that's going to look like? On
18:15
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, Definitely, the weather changes
18:19
Speaker 1: is one of the most effective effective things to uh
18:22
Speaker 1: to hunt, especially here in Louisiana. Um, cold fronts here
18:25
Speaker 1: can be drastic. You know. We can go from being
18:28
Speaker 1: in the eighties and the nineties to being in the
18:30
Speaker 1: thirties or forties within a twenty four hour period. UM.
18:33
Speaker 1: I'd like to think in my area it's gonna bump
18:35
Speaker 1: it up to a seven or in eight. Um. As
18:37
Speaker 1: far as the rest of the state goes, it'll it'll
18:39
Speaker 1: bump it up as well. The cooler the temperatures, the
18:42
Speaker 1: more of that they're gonna be on their feet, especially
18:44
Speaker 1: during the daytime. Okay, justin Well, I hope you're able
18:47
Speaker 1: to take advantage of that cold front and good luck
18:49
Speaker 1: this year. Thanks all, I appreciate it. Before we get
18:52
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19:12
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19:14
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20:11
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20:48
Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. Brett Joy. Now, Brett, what would you
20:51
Speaker 1: say the dear activities? Ben Leley? On a scale of
20:53
Speaker 1: one to ten, I would say it's been a two
20:57
Speaker 1: or three um fide? Did you us? I think it's
21:01
Speaker 1: probably pretty difficult to get down to a one, but
21:03
Speaker 1: it's been pretty poor, so I'd go up to two
21:05
Speaker 1: or three right now? Why uh such a poor number?
21:09
Speaker 1: Is that something that is typical for early October for
21:12
Speaker 1: you guys? There is this a normal? Um? I'd say
21:16
Speaker 1: it's more typical and abnormal. The reason that it's um
21:19
Speaker 1: typical is because at least the last five or six
21:22
Speaker 1: years have had an exceptional mass crop, specifically red oaks
21:26
Speaker 1: in the areas that we hunt, and that really subdued
21:28
Speaker 1: dear movement. They don't have to move far to get food.
21:31
Speaker 1: UM typically are betting and feeding. Since we're in heavily
21:35
Speaker 1: timbered area, is is one and the same pretty much,
21:38
Speaker 1: so they're they're just getting up off their belly, moving
21:40
Speaker 1: ten yards, eating acorns and lying back down. So that's
21:43
Speaker 1: pretty typical of late September early October New Hampshire. But
21:47
Speaker 1: the thing is really subduing the movement on top of
21:49
Speaker 1: the mass crop is the weather. The weather has been
21:53
Speaker 1: above average I think most of the deer season so far.
21:57
Speaker 1: The first you know five or six weeks that it's
21:59
Speaker 1: been open, so um, they just aren't moving far that
22:02
Speaker 1: out with the mass crop. It makes for really tough
22:04
Speaker 1: hunting and really kind of poor dear activity. Now, how
22:07
Speaker 1: aggressive have you been then? If you know it's it's
22:10
Speaker 1: that tough to get close to de right now, I
22:14
Speaker 1: might personally haven't been that aggressive. I haven't been hunting much.
22:17
Speaker 1: I've been monitoring trail cameras. I think there's two schools
22:20
Speaker 1: of thought on this. One is to monitor your cameras,
22:23
Speaker 1: wait for a cold front until you start getting more
22:25
Speaker 1: daylight buck activity and then moving, or you can get
22:28
Speaker 1: aggressive early um hunt a bunch of different spots, hunt
22:31
Speaker 1: betting areas. Essentially, I've chose the first option just because
22:35
Speaker 1: I have one deer in particular I'm hunting now and
22:37
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going anywhere, So I just don't
22:40
Speaker 1: want to push some look too early in the season.
22:42
Speaker 1: Um So right now I'm waiting on a cold front
22:45
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm gonna go from there. Hypothetically speaking in
22:49
Speaker 1: that area, what have you had food plots or a
22:52
Speaker 1: different food source. Would the deer potentially be hitting that
22:55
Speaker 1: or do you think it's just acorns across the board
22:57
Speaker 1: right now? Um No, they're definitely some variety. They're not
23:01
Speaker 1: gonna eat, you know, only oaks, but it is definitely
23:04
Speaker 1: the number one thing they're keen in on. I have
23:06
Speaker 1: some food plots up here as well. I am getting
23:08
Speaker 1: pictures of some mature bucks on food plots, but it's
23:12
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, so I think that's kind
23:13
Speaker 1: of an afterthought at this point. Um it seems like
23:15
Speaker 1: right after, you know, the third week in September through
23:18
Speaker 1: the middle of October, red and white oaks or the
23:21
Speaker 1: number one food source. So that's gonna be what you have,
23:24
Speaker 1: what you can focus on. I mean, you could definitely
23:26
Speaker 1: probably kill a buck on a food plot or greenfield
23:28
Speaker 1: or maybe in a cut um, but I don't. I
23:31
Speaker 1: think that's more of the exception than the rule of
23:33
Speaker 1: this time of year. Well, are you seeing any scrapes
23:35
Speaker 1: or rubs. Um, you just talked about trail cameras a
23:37
Speaker 1: little bit. Where are those located at? Yeah? I have
23:41
Speaker 1: actually actually did some scutting yesterday, um, and I found
23:45
Speaker 1: some some fresh rubs and scrapes in the area that
23:47
Speaker 1: I was hoping to see them in. So Yeah, most
23:50
Speaker 1: of my cameras this time of year definitely on scrapes,
23:53
Speaker 1: either scrapes a deer made themselves or mock scrapes. And
23:56
Speaker 1: I'm I am starting to see that activity. I think
23:58
Speaker 1: that the warm weather is probably surpre U said a
24:00
Speaker 1: little a little uh more than normal. I usually see
24:03
Speaker 1: a little bit more than I am right now. But
24:05
Speaker 1: I think the next cold front should really ramp up
24:08
Speaker 1: that activity, should get those deer moving, um, you know
24:11
Speaker 1: a little more at night out exploring, whereas they just
24:13
Speaker 1: aren't going far right now. Now, going forward in this
24:16
Speaker 1: next week or so, what do you think the bucket
24:18
Speaker 1: activity is going to be like then? On a scale
24:20
Speaker 1: of one to ten, I think it's probably gonna be. Oh,
24:25
Speaker 1: I'd say it could get up to a six or seven.
24:29
Speaker 1: We have a cold front that's supposed to come in
24:30
Speaker 1: the middle of this week. When I say cold front.
24:32
Speaker 1: It's it's really just a cool front. It's only a
24:34
Speaker 1: few degrees below probably a seasonal average for this time
24:37
Speaker 1: of year. But since I've been in the seventies and eighties,
24:39
Speaker 1: these last you know, three four weeks, I'd say it's
24:41
Speaker 1: gonna get them on the feet. Um so I'd say
24:44
Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty good. The only thing that's keeping it,
24:46
Speaker 1: obviously from being a little higher than that, maybe like
24:48
Speaker 1: a seven or f storry eight to ten would probably
24:51
Speaker 1: be the mass crop that's still gonna play a big
24:53
Speaker 1: factor and subdue their movement to an extent. So all right, Brett, Well,
24:58
Speaker 1: thanks for joining me. Look forward to checking out Parallel
25:00
Speaker 1: forty three on Carbon TV. Good luck this year. Thanks sponsor,
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Speaker 1: you too, alright and joining us on the line. Last
25:07
Speaker 1: is Ben Harshein, the founder of Ontero Mapping and a
25:10
Speaker 1: land specialist for white tail properties. Now, Ben in Iowa,
25:14
Speaker 1: what would you say that dear activity has been lately
25:16
Speaker 1: on the scale of one to ten, I would I
25:21
Speaker 1: would say, with these different weather patterns and some cooler
25:26
Speaker 1: weather and some change coming in, you can be having
25:28
Speaker 1: some six, seven or eight. I would say, uh, you
25:33
Speaker 1: can have some really good sits, uh everything else in between.
25:38
Speaker 1: You know this this warm weather, it's no tourists for
25:40
Speaker 1: early October. I would say, you know, you're down at
25:44
Speaker 1: your twos or threes. UM, I think it's I don't
25:47
Speaker 1: say a waste of time, but you're you're hurting yourself
25:49
Speaker 1: unless you're you're hunting these these weather fronts that are
25:52
Speaker 1: coming through. UM. Specifically, what I like in the next
25:56
Speaker 1: ten days, we've we've had historically some really warm weather
26:02
Speaker 1: that UM is setting up. Any sort of precipitation or
26:07
Speaker 1: cool weather or UM a change in wind direction is
26:13
Speaker 1: interesting to me. Uh, I'll be out tomorrow night. UM,
26:17
Speaker 1: we're basically getting a lot of rain right now, and
26:21
Speaker 1: and UH we're gonna get a strong northeast wind tomorrow
26:26
Speaker 1: dying down as far as the wind speed around primetime.
26:30
Speaker 1: So I'll definitely be out tomorrow night, which should be Wednesday,
26:33
Speaker 1: and and then UM, the next the next weather that
26:39
Speaker 1: looks good to me will be will be Sunday. So UM,
26:43
Speaker 1: I know that what what guys are seeing right now,
26:45
Speaker 1: UH is a lot of Uh there's just a ton
26:49
Speaker 1: of acorns is a huge mass crop this year, at
26:52
Speaker 1: least in the heartland. And UM that can be preventing
26:56
Speaker 1: a lot of trail camp pictures of deer that you
26:58
Speaker 1: maybe expect should be there. Um, not a ton of movement,
27:01
Speaker 1: But the guys that are hunting food is either you know,
27:04
Speaker 1: seeing deer on acorns or green plots in the evening.
27:08
Speaker 1: All right, well, Wednesday and Sunday put it on the
27:11
Speaker 1: calendars Iowa listeners. But Ben, you were talking about the
27:14
Speaker 1: weather front making those couple of days so good so
27:18
Speaker 1: far in October. Have you got a chance to take
27:20
Speaker 1: advantage of some of those weather fronts. Um, let's see here,
27:24
Speaker 1: I've only got one sit in that would have been
27:28
Speaker 1: UM last Wednesday, I believe, UM, I really wanted to
27:33
Speaker 1: get out on Saturday. Last Saturday was I believe the
27:36
Speaker 1: best sit of the season so far for for here
27:41
Speaker 1: in Iowa. UM had a number of different clients that
27:44
Speaker 1: I have been in contact with and and some friends
27:46
Speaker 1: as well. UM, Saturday looked really good as far as
27:50
Speaker 1: how UM. The weather was was really stagnant and stale
27:55
Speaker 1: and warm all the way up into a bunch of
27:58
Speaker 1: rain Saturday morning. Things cooled off and some really heavy
28:02
Speaker 1: winds throughout the day leading into prime time where there's
28:05
Speaker 1: winds dropped down to fifteen to ten. Um, put a
28:09
Speaker 1: bunch of deer in front of people. I had really
28:11
Speaker 1: everybody that sat that night that I did, I know
28:14
Speaker 1: saw bucks. Two two of them killed to my contacts,
28:19
Speaker 1: killed and and uh um the other one saw mature
28:23
Speaker 1: deer out in out in the field. So that that
28:25
Speaker 1: was just a classic Uh. That was a classic scenario
28:29
Speaker 1: of of this warm weather setting up for for a
28:32
Speaker 1: cold front to come through or some precipitation or just
28:35
Speaker 1: some drastic change uh in direction of wind or whatnot.
28:39
Speaker 1: That was a really low pressure day, um, but deer
28:41
Speaker 1: were still out hot and heavy. So um, that's what
28:44
Speaker 1: I'm looking for in early to mid October. Now, with
28:48
Speaker 1: that good deer movement that some of your contacts, do
28:51
Speaker 1: you know if they were seeing any running activity yet
28:53
Speaker 1: as far as scrapes, rubs, sparring, any stuff like that. Yeah,
28:58
Speaker 1: we're pre pre rut um pre ruts not even the
29:03
Speaker 1: term yet, we're before that, but the beginning signs of
29:07
Speaker 1: you know, some scrapes um uh, scrapes pop in especially
29:12
Speaker 1: with this this rain that's coming through, and I would
29:15
Speaker 1: imagine they're gonna be a lot more visible and scratching
29:18
Speaker 1: the ground a lot more here in the in the
29:20
Speaker 1: coming days. UM My specific property as of last week
29:26
Speaker 1: just started to have a couple of scrapes show up.
29:28
Speaker 1: But um on on the other hand, I've talked to
29:31
Speaker 1: guys that have been seeing scrapes prevalent throughout some bigger
29:35
Speaker 1: ones where where they're at. So um, I would say
29:39
Speaker 1: that it's gonna be about that time where um, you know,
29:43
Speaker 1: more and more rubs are going to be showing up,
29:45
Speaker 1: more larger scrapes will be showing up, and and when
29:49
Speaker 1: you get some cooler evenings, you're gonna see at least
29:52
Speaker 1: some of the younger deer coming out and sniffing around. Um,
29:56
Speaker 1: some of these doughs in the in in addition to
29:58
Speaker 1: grabbing a bite to eat. But still too early to
30:01
Speaker 1: be talking pretty right yet, Well, it sounds like you
30:04
Speaker 1: like the forecast coming up. What would you say the
30:07
Speaker 1: dear activity and I, well, there's going to be on
30:08
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten in this next week
30:10
Speaker 1: or so. Well, I would say, I'm gonna say Wednesday night,
30:16
Speaker 1: um is gonna be Um, I'll just shoot and say
30:21
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a seven. We'll go for a seven.
30:24
Speaker 1: I'm not really putting anything up towards a eight, nine
30:27
Speaker 1: or ten, you know, until we get closer to the
30:29
Speaker 1: end of October. But I would say you're looking at
30:32
Speaker 1: the seven on on seven or in eight on Wednesday,
30:35
Speaker 1: and then Sunday as well. Um got some warm weather
30:39
Speaker 1: leading into showers, uh, and then some pressure that will
30:43
Speaker 1: be rising Sunday into Monday. So let's put those into
30:46
Speaker 1: seven as well. All right, Ben, Well, good luck on
30:48
Speaker 1: those sits, and look forward to talk to you later
30:50
Speaker 1: this fall. Okay, Thanks luck, And that's gonna be at folks.
30:55
Speaker 1: And as you heard Ben say and a few other people,
30:58
Speaker 1: you know, we got that cold front coming across some
31:00
Speaker 1: of the Midwest right now. I know it's hitting for
31:02
Speaker 1: me today Wednesday as this podcast is dropping, So in
31:06
Speaker 1: just a matter of hours, I'm gonna be sneaking out
31:08
Speaker 1: into some public land. Fingers are crossed. And good luck
31:11
Speaker 1: to any of you that are gonna be hunting this
31:13
Speaker 1: week or weekend. I hope it goes well for you.
31:16
Speaker 1: So that said, I want to give a big thank
31:18
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31:29
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31:31
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31:34
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31:36
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