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Episode 1006 - Elvis Has Left the Building! · Jeep Talk Show

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  - On tonight's
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  episode in our news stories,
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  Elvis has left the building.
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  What the hell does that
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  have to do with Jeeps, right?
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  - And again?
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  He's left again.
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  - What was it on "Men
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  in Black" that they said,
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  "He didn't die, he just went back home."
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  - Yeah, he just went home.
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  - He is my home.
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  - In "Newbie Nuggets,"
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  Wendy shares how many fingers
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  she is holding up.
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  I seem to remember a
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  story about this before
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  because I obviously went with
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  the middle finger in my head.
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  It's like, if you
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  break your middle finger,
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  can you still drive is always the joke.
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  In "Fabricating Frenzy,"
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  Larry is going to talk about
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  favorite EJS vendors, which is good,
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  but he won't see them this year
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  because he's not going, Nan and Abu.
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  - Ooh.
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  - But I know who's gonna be there.
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  - And in our "Must
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  Have Stuff for Your Jeep,"
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  properly sized GMRS antenna.
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  - Very important.
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  - Yep, absolutely.
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  - Well, howdy, I'm
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  Wendy, and on this episode,
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  I'm sharing why I hold
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  up fingers on the trail.
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  No, I'm not flipping someone off.
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  - Hi, I'm Larry, and are you
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  going to the EJS vendor show?
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  - Yeah, I think I will,
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  but I'm not going to be
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  there with one of the vendors,
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  so I'll be able to go
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  and look and then leave
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  and get some more off-road time.
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  I mean, I can't thank
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  Ken and Tari Lights enough
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  for letting me get
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  involved in being there
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  in their booth last year,
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  and it was absolutely
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  wonderful being there,
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  but I had done some
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  wheeling on Monday, Tuesday,
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  and Wednesday, and then when
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  I was there all day Thursday,
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  I was going, I was like,
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  "Anci, I need to get out
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  on the trail, I need to
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  get out on the trail."
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  - I know, but that's still what you do
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  to meet all the people, and I don't know,
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  I think it's fun to be in
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  the vendor booth sometimes.
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  - Oh, no, absolutely, but it's still not,
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  I gotta get better
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  about, "Hey, come here,
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  I want to talk to you, you
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  know about the Jeep talk show?"
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  And I just haven't got there yet,
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  so that was part of the problem too.
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  - Yeah, so that's the fun part.
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  - Yeah.
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  - As I said in the
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  opening, Elvis, well, the 392,
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  people are putting it
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  together now, has left the building.
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  - You have an Elvis model?
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  - Yeah, well, that would be cool, thank
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  you, thank you very much.
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  So have you ever spent
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  an ungodly amount of money
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  for concert tickets
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  simply because you had to see
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  the performer or the group?
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  Well, think of this that way.
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  The final V8 Jeep Wrangler will cost 101,
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  $890,000, that's thousand with a T.
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  - Oh my gosh.
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  - One word, nope, nope.
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  - Wow, that is not going off road,
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  that's not going out of the showroom.
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  - I'd like to make the
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  Back to the Future reference,
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  I think it was Back to the Future too,
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  where Doc Brown just
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  stores the DeLorean in a cave
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  and jacks it up.
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  - Oh, three.
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  - Oh, was it three?
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  - Three, isn't it?
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  - Yeah, that's right, that's right.
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  - The western one, right?
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  - So that's what you do with this thing,
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  you buy it, you store it in a cave,
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  and make sure you take the tires off
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  and get it up off the ground.
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  - The question is, if you
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  knew Elvis was going to die soon,
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  would you have spent any amount of money
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  to see his last concert?
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  Just think of it.
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  - Well, I personally was too young,
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  probably to make this decision, so.
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  - Just play along, just play along.
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  - Oh yes, oh, would I have.
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  - It doesn't have to
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  make sense for the show,
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  this is entertainment.
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  - That's right, I forget
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  where I'm at, okay, so.
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  I probably would not.
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  - How about you, Larry?
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  - Yeah, probably not either.
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  I mean, well let's face it,
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  392 was always around 90.
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  - Yeah, very true.
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  - There was a little bump up,
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  but it's not like a doubled in price.
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  You were already
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  skirting the 100 grand anyway.
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  So you're not, it's not like a big leap.
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  - Yeah, yeah, so you out there, listener,
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  would you have paid any amount of price
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  to see Elvis' last concert?
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  Well, if your answer is
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  yes, well you bastard,
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  you should have tried to save his life.
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  You knew he was gonna die, help him.
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  - Oh my gosh.
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  - You make me sick.
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  - Yeah, and not throw
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  your underwear on the stage.
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  - Exactly.
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  - I would go in there with
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  some super big woman panties
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  and pull that thing out
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  and just sling it up there
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  like a frisbee.
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  - Gosh.
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  - So unlike Elvis,
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  you don't have to worry
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  about losing an eye when that
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  overstressed body suit button
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  lets loose, flies into the audience,
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  and this takes you
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  out very, very quickly.
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  - Oh my gosh.
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  - I guess the 392 could injure you
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  depending on how you're driving it.
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  I mean, especially if
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  you drive it like Bill.
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  So the final edition 392
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  Wrangler has bronze accents,
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  which by the way, Bill does not like,
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  Mopar accessories and special
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  commemorative plaques.
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  And when I think of plaques,
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  I think of "Star Trek
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  The Next Generation"
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  where they had the
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  little plaque up there where,
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  where it talks about the starship
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  and when its date that it
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  was built and all that stuff.
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  - Oh my gosh.
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  - So I wonder were these plaques
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  and they said plaques, so more than one.
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  - Like where are they
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  located, inside or out?
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  - Yeah, I don't know.
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  That's a good question.
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  If you put it on the outside,
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  somebody's going, "Oh, this
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  is one of those $101,000."
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  - Yeah, I think I'll steal it.
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  I think I'll steal it.
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  - Yeah.
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  So the final edition 392
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  Wrangler again has bronze accents,
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  Mopar accessories and special
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  commemorative plaques.
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  Now I'm not seeing a
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  hundred thousand there.
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  So only 3,700 units
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  will be produced in total.
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  And again, 101, 890.
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  So yeah, collect your pennies,
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  go out there and grab some aluminum cans.
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  Maybe you might want
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  to hit some condensers
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  and get the copper out of them.
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  - Oh my gosh.
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  - The outside,
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  outside the house, AC units.
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  - Well, here's a little,
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  here's a little thought
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  on that price though.
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  We all know how dealers work.
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  That is not the price
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  you're buying that for.
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  - Oh heck no, that's not the door.
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  That's just the list.
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  That's the starting price.
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  - Yeah, you should get a bit
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  of discount off that, right?
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  Cause that, they gotta move these jeeps.
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  - There's going to be markup.
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  We already know that.
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  So don't be shocked if
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  that's not really closer to 130.
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  By the time you put your
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  destination fees in there,
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  your dealer markup and all of that.
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  - Well, especially cause
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  there's only 3,700 units.
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  So there's going to be,
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  I'm gonna number them.
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  Is this one of 3,700?
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  Is that one of the plaques?
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  And this is, you know, 3,600 of a 3,700?
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  Because the closer to one is going to be
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  worth more than the,
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  you know, of course the one,
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  the first one and the last
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  one probably be worth the most.
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  - I wonder if that's
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  going to be a talking
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  the sales person down.
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  Oh, this is a 3,699.
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  I need 10,000 off.
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  - I mean, yeah, seriously.
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  Oh, this is only 2,000 out of 3,700.
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  I'm not spending that money.
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  Give me a deal.
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  - I wonder who you have to know
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  or what you have to do
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  to get the number one.
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  You know, because-
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  - It's probably staying with Jeep.
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  It's not being sold.
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  - Call Jim.
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  - That's right.
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  Hey Jim, can you hook me up?
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  There's a shiny $5 bill in it for you.
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  - Yeah.
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  - So the treatment of the
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  392 starts off with decals
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  for the hood front fenders
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  and the 17 inch beadlock capable.
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  I'm going to come back to that.
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  Wheels featuring a bronze finish.
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  A winch.
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  Oh, a woman comes with it.
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  A Mopar grill card
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  and Mopar rock sliders.
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  - Oh, Mopar rock sliders come standard.
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  So the Jeep includes,
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  actually I think I
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  was thinking about the,
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  what's those sliders that you got, Larry?
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  - Rock slide engineering?
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  - Rock slide engineering.
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  That's what I, when I read that,
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  I was thinking rock slide engineering.
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  - Oh, that's what you're thinking.
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  - Because that's another
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  five grand on top of the-
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  - Easily.
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  - On the 101 there.
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  So we know what five grand of that is.
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  And so the Jeep includes a
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  half inch suspension lift kit
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  that brings ground
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  clearance up to, I know,
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  ground clearance up to 11.5 inches.
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  - Is that supposed to be
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  a positive or less than-
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  - I'm thinking the
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  mother-in-law and father-in-law
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  get in there and
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  you've lost that half inch.
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  Inside the interior
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  features black Nappa leather
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  and gold stitching along
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  with a special shifter medallion
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  and plaque.
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  Oh, there we go.
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  That might be where one of them is.
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  - That's where the extra 10,000 is going.
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  - We learn as you do, listener.
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  Commendorating the final.
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  I'll just say it because
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  people are laughing at me.
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  I know.
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  As the final edition
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  model, Jeep also throws in
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  a fold out table and
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  an 83 piece tool kit.
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  So they know something.
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  - No, they don't.
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  The 83 pieces, you guys
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  from listening to the show,
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  you know what tool kits have, right?
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  There's about five good pieces of tools
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  in the restaurant nuts
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  and bolts that they make it.
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  - Yeah, hold on.
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  It said fold out table.
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  We don't know what they're working on.
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  They could be talking about lunch.
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  - That's true.
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  That's very true.
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  And that would be good.
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  - We are so bad.
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  - So I just got to say my
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  two story house was $108,000.
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  But like I once heard on
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  the show "Blue Bloods",
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  you can sleep in your Jeep,
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  but you can't drive your house to work.
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  - No, that's so true.
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  (laughing)
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  - So, you know, maybe
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  it's not a bad deal.
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  You know, sell your house, buy a 392.
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  I think, but I think
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  you can't drive this.
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  I mean, if you're
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  buying the last of something,
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  I think that you got
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  to put it up someplace.
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  - Yeah, so it's going to be
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  like Jay Leno and Tim Allen
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  and all those people that collect cars.
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  They're going to be buying this stuff.
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  - And I think this price is
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  okay for a multimillionaire.
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  - Of course.
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  - Yeah, but if you don't take it out
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  and let it exercise a little bit,
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  it's not going to be a functional vehicle
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  other than just sitting there, right?
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  You got to get it out.
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  You got to run it a
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  little bit here and there
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  to keep everything working.
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  - Well, of course.
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  So my wife has, you guys
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  remember Rosie O'Donnell
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  when she would head her own show?
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  - Unfortunately.
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  - Yeah, and anyway, she
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  bought a Rosie O'Donnell doll
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  and she has made sure
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  she has kept it in the box.
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  It's never been opened.
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  And that's what I'm thinking about this.
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  When you start taking
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  stuff out of the packaging,
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  you decrease its value.
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  And if you start
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  putting miles on that 392,
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  you decrease the value.
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  I don't know.
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  - It's optional.
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  - Were pins optional?
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  - Pins?
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  - For the doll.
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  Yeah.
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  - Oh, that was pretty good.
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  - Oh, Larry, you're bad.
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  For Tony's like, whoosh,
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  we got to pass this in.
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  - I'm pretty rough on Rosie O'Donnell
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  anyway, so it's fine.
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  Her worst nightmare happened
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  when Donald Trump got elected
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  because they were always feuding before.
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  It was hilarious to watch.
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  Trump is such a troll.
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  So anyway, I'm going to circle back to
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  this beadlock capable
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  because this confuses me.
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  Either one of you know
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  what beadlock capable means?
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  I mean, it's the wheel.
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  It's not like the
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  Jeep's beadlock capable.
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  I understand that because
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  you can put beadlocks on it.
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  But if the wheel is beadlock capable,
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  what the hell does that mean?
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  - I don't know,
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  because I don't know that
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  you can attach the beadlock
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  to the outs, it doesn't work that way.
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  - That's what, that's in my mind.
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  I don't understand.
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  - I think it has
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  something to do with that flange
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  on the very front that
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  allow you to run it either way.
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  Let you run it as a
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  standard tire or as the beadlock.
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  - Put it inside the bead
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  or the outside the bead
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  with the ring.
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  - You have to seal it somehow though.
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  - Yeah.
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  - Exactly, that's what I'm saying.
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  How does that work?
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  - The regular beadlock tires,
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  I mean, wheels aren't
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  like that though, right?
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  I mean, you have to run it as a beadlock.
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  It has to go over the beadlock.
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  - Yeah. - Yeah.
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  - Right, it pinches.
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  - It's not like
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  you're gonna push a button
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  and it's gonna change.
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  - Oh, that'd be cool.
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  Look again, officer, I am street legal.
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  - Oh boy.
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  - All right, so any
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  other thoughts on this?
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  Nobody's buying one, I'm assuming.
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  But are you at least
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  interested in if you could
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  and you just had a
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  spare 101,000 plus taxes?
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  That would be 10 grand
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  for you, wouldn't it, Larry?
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  - I'm just paying the state taxes on it.
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  - B20 for California.
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  No, if money were no
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  object, hell yes, I have this.
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  And not because it's the end,
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  it's just because it's a V8 and it's 392.
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  Like who wouldn't wanna drive that thing?
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  - But it's so sad
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  that they're going away.
• 1:13:11
  I mean, it's like supermodels.
• 1:13:14
  I'm never gonna have one,
• 1:13:15
  but I want them to continue existing.
• 1:13:19
  - Well, like supermodels,
• 1:13:21
  you can't afford this one.
• 1:13:22
  - Oh yeah, absolutely. - That's right.
• 1:13:24
  - And it's probably
• 1:13:26
  gonna get away from you
• 1:13:28
  if you push too much pedal in.
• 1:13:30
  So, it's gonna hurt somebody
• 1:13:33
  and it's probably gonna be you.
• 1:13:35
  - Exactly.
• 1:13:39
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  the premier show for Jeep enthusiast
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  hardcore off-roaders.
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  And whether you're new to the Jeep world
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  or a seasoned Jeeper,
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  we've got you covered
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  with the latest news,
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  tips, and advice to help you
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  get the most out of your Jeep.
• 1:14:26
  Larry, Wendy, thank you guys for being
• 1:14:27
  here week after week.
• 1:14:29
  And not only do the
• 1:14:31
  listeners enjoy you being here,
• 1:14:33
  I enjoy you being here,
• 1:14:34
  even when I forget your name.
• 1:14:36
  - It's all right, it's all fun.
• 1:14:38
  - I was having some problems
• 1:14:40
  after Tammy had been back on the show.
• 1:14:42
  There was a couple of
• 1:14:43
  times that I caught myself
• 1:14:44
  thinking Tammy when I
• 1:14:46
  needed to say Wendy.
• 1:14:47
  - Oh, well, that's okay, I would not be
• 1:14:49
  offended, it's fine.
• 1:14:50
  - Well, it always bothers me
• 1:14:51
  whenever I get the wrong name.
• 1:14:53
  - Well, sure.
• 1:14:54
  - Wendy Elise, he was thinking Tammy
• 1:14:56
  when he was talking to you, not me.
• 1:14:58
  (laughing)
• 1:15:00
  - There's that.
• 1:15:01
  - So I'm just gonna
• 1:15:01
  cover myself here, Larry.
• 1:15:03
  I've made this comment before,
• 1:15:05
  if I forget your name,
• 1:15:06
  I'm calling you Duke,
• 1:15:07
  because that will
• 1:15:07
  actually be a compliment.
• 1:15:09
  - Oh, gosh, poor Larry.
• 1:15:12
  - He's better than I do most days.
• 1:15:14
  - Yeah, there's people out
• 1:15:15
  there going, what's Duke?
• 1:15:16
  Why is he called Duke?
• 1:15:17
  - Tell us about Duke real quick
• 1:15:19
  for the people that don't know.
• 1:15:20
  - Duke is my 120 pound black lab
• 1:15:24
  that travels all over
• 1:15:24
  the country with me.
• 1:15:25
  - And he's famous.
• 1:15:27
  - Yeah, and we're gonna
• 1:15:28
  miss him at EJS this year.
• 1:15:30
  You too, Larry, I'm sorry, you too.
• 1:15:33
  - Yeah, I'm merely
• 1:15:35
  his handler, that's all.
• 1:15:38
  - All right, so this is
• 1:15:40
  gonna be a little boring,
• 1:15:42
  but I think informational.
• 1:15:43
  I'm gonna try to keep it relevant.
• 1:15:45
  And of course, you guys
• 1:15:46
  jump in with any questions
• 1:15:48
  or something you're having.
• 1:15:49
  I'm gonna try to make
• 1:15:50
  this not real technical.
• 1:15:52
  So there's a bit of confusion,
• 1:15:55
  and it's easy to get confused
• 1:15:57
  because there are so many
• 1:15:59
  different kinds of antennas.
• 1:16:02
  So we've spoken about this in the past,
• 1:16:04
  but it's time for a refresher.
• 1:16:07
  In a recent round table recording,
• 1:16:09
  this is before the round
• 1:16:10
  table actually got started,
• 1:16:11
  I was asked some questions
• 1:16:13
  that led to an antenna discussion.
• 1:16:15
  And I don't know if they wanted
• 1:16:16
  to talk about antennas or not.
• 1:16:18
  (laughs) - But they got it.
• 1:16:20
  - Infamous antenna discussion.
• 1:16:22
  - All right, I just
• 1:16:23
  took it to that degree.
• 1:16:25
  Yeah, I try to stay away from that stuff,
• 1:16:26
  really any radio stuff,
• 1:16:27
  because I can really
• 1:16:29
  go on and on about it,
• 1:16:30
  and very specific and very
• 1:16:33
  particular about this stuff.
• 1:16:35
  So again, I'm gonna
• 1:16:36
  try not to do that now.
• 1:16:39
  So antennas on Jeeps
• 1:16:41
  all work the same way,
• 1:16:42
  and they are all governed by
• 1:16:44
  the same physics principles,
• 1:16:46
  whether it's CB, GMRS, a classic AM,
• 1:16:49
  or FM news and entertainment radio.
• 1:16:52
  You guys know what I'm
• 1:16:53
  talking about when I say AM, FM,
• 1:16:54
  it's the good time radio in the Jeep.
• 1:16:56
  - Right. - Oh yeah.
• 1:16:58
  - So how long antennas are or aren't
• 1:17:01
  are directly related to the frequency
• 1:17:03
  that they are used on
• 1:17:05
  to transmit or receive,
• 1:17:06
  and it's usually both.
• 1:17:08
  So I'll give you for example,
• 1:17:09
  as far as antenna length and how it jives
• 1:17:12
  with the various services that we're
• 1:17:14
  talking about tonight.
• 1:17:15
  So GMRS, General Mobile Radio Service
• 1:17:17
  Radio Antenna Length
• 1:17:19
  is a 0.5, that's a
• 1:17:21
  decimal point, 0.5258 feet,
• 1:17:25
  or 6.31 inches.
• 1:17:28
  So that's the full size antenna for GMRS
• 1:17:32
  because of the frequency that GMRS uses,
• 1:17:34
  which is around 470 megahertz.
• 1:17:37
  So contrast that with CB, Citizens Band
• 1:17:40
  Radio Antenna Length,
• 1:17:41
  which is nine feet or about 109 inches.
• 1:17:44
  A lot of people know the inches
• 1:17:46
  that if you've been into CB, especially
• 1:17:47
  if you've got a whip,
• 1:17:48
  you know that the whip is
• 1:17:49
  around, yeah, about 109 inches.
• 1:17:52
  And also too,
• 1:17:53
  potentially dangerous off-road
• 1:17:54
  because if you're
• 1:17:56
  flopping that Jeep every place
• 1:17:57
  and there's somebody
• 1:17:58
  standing there within a few feet,
• 1:18:01
  and I'm not talking about
• 1:18:02
  three, I mean, this is nine feet,
• 1:18:04
  that antenna could just
• 1:18:05
  whip the crap out of them.
• 1:18:06
  - Well, there's a lot of places,
• 1:18:07
  it's the trees and what
• 1:18:09
  you're driving through,
• 1:18:10
  you couldn't do it with nine feet.
• 1:18:11
  - Yeah, exactly.
• 1:18:13
  It sticks up too high
• 1:18:14
  and the Jeep gets caught.
• 1:18:15
  - I actually have one of these on my XJ
• 1:18:18
  and I've got a little, thank God the XJ
• 1:18:20
  has the rain gutters.
• 1:18:21
  So I was actually able to get a clip
• 1:18:24
  for the antenna to put it on there.
• 1:18:25
  But you get aggressive off-road,
• 1:18:27
  that clip may break or come off.
• 1:18:29
  Yeah, so I think there's some places
• 1:18:30
  that won't allow you to go into the park
• 1:18:32
  with an antenna that long.
• 1:18:35
  - Makes sense.
• 1:18:35
  - Yeah, so it's dangerous.
• 1:18:37
  So anyway, the FM News and
• 1:18:39
  Entertainment Antenna Length
• 1:18:40
  is 2.36 feet.
• 1:18:43
  And then this is the one
• 1:18:45
  that I always talk about.
• 1:18:46
  I don't think I had calculated it before.
• 1:18:49
  The AM News and Entertainment Antenna
• 1:18:51
  for your radio length is 311 feet.
• 1:18:55
  There's no decimal
• 1:18:56
  point there, folks, 311.
• 1:18:59
  - Wow.
• 1:19:00
  - So this all is based on
• 1:19:03
  quarter wavelength antennas
• 1:19:04
  on a vehicle that has a metal body
• 1:19:08
  or anything that's metal,
• 1:19:10
  it doesn't matter if it's aluminum.
• 1:19:12
  The antenna is reflected in that metal.
• 1:19:14
  So the shortest antenna that you can have
• 1:19:17
  is a half wave antenna.
• 1:19:19
  But on a vehicle, half of the antenna
• 1:19:22
  is electrically reflected.
• 1:19:26
  So the minimum you can
• 1:19:28
  use is a quarter wave.
• 1:19:29
  So these are all
• 1:19:29
  quarter wavelength links.
• 1:19:32
  So it's the minimum size
• 1:19:33
  that you can have on a vehicle.
• 1:19:35
  You can go bigger.
• 1:19:36
  But so whenever I talk about you guys
• 1:19:39
  putting these fake antennas,
• 1:19:41
  stubbies, 50 caliber bullets,
• 1:19:44
  or whatever you're
• 1:19:45
  gonna use for an antenna,
• 1:19:48
  the antenna that came from the factory
• 1:19:50
  was already woefully too short
• 1:19:53
  for the AM News and Entertainment radio.
• 1:19:58
  So now I know that you guys
• 1:19:59
  have seen antennas for CB,
• 1:20:02
  GMRS, and especially
• 1:20:03
  for AM FM Goodtime radio
• 1:20:05
  that were longer or
• 1:20:06
  shorter, usually shorter,
• 1:20:08
  usually much shorter.
• 1:20:10
  So antennas can be
• 1:20:11
  shorter, but things are done
• 1:20:14
  so that your radio thinks
• 1:20:16
  it's the right sized antenna.
• 1:20:20
  So that doesn't mean
• 1:20:21
  that it works better.
• 1:20:22
  Actually, it works worse.
• 1:20:25
  Because the thing they do
• 1:20:26
  to it, it tells the radio,
• 1:20:28
  yeah, I'm the right size antenna
• 1:20:30
  for the frequency that we're on,
• 1:20:32
  but you're not getting
• 1:20:34
  that full signal strength
• 1:20:35
  that you would with a
• 1:20:36
  quarter wave antenna.
• 1:20:37
  Why does it matter?
• 1:20:40
  So it matters because if you have an
• 1:20:42
  antenna on your Jeep
• 1:20:44
  and it's not working the
• 1:20:45
  way you think it should,
• 1:20:47
  you probably haven't
• 1:20:48
  considered the antenna.
• 1:20:50
  I mean, I think some people go,
• 1:20:51
  I should get a better antenna,
• 1:20:52
  but they don't know what to look for
• 1:20:54
  and they don't know
• 1:20:54
  what they're looking for.
• 1:20:55
  And that's one of the
• 1:20:56
  reasons why I'm pointing this out.
• 1:20:58
  So if you, and I've
• 1:21:00
  mentioned this before,
• 1:21:04
  well, the factory Jeep
• 1:21:05
  antenna is much shorter
• 1:21:07
  than the 311 foot
• 1:21:08
  antenna you need for AM news
• 1:21:10
  and entertainment radio.
• 1:21:13
  So that is, well, most of
• 1:21:15
  us don't use the AM radio
• 1:21:16
  any longer, but if there's an emergency
• 1:21:18
  and you're fleeing to safety,
• 1:21:21
  you might need that
• 1:21:22
  factory antenna to hear the lies
• 1:21:24
  that the government tells us anyway.
• 1:21:26
  Oh wait, well, yeah, just
• 1:21:27
  keep that short antenna on there.
• 1:21:28
  - Okay, hold on a minute.
• 1:21:31
  (both laughing)
• 1:21:32
  - So, but seriously, you
• 1:21:34
  might wanna find a place
• 1:21:35
  to store your factory
• 1:21:36
  antenna in or on your Jeep
• 1:21:38
  so you can swap it out if necessary.
• 1:21:42
  All right, so, oh, and you might say,
• 1:21:44
  well, how does the AM thing work at all?
• 1:21:46
  AM radio stations boast 20,000, 50,000,
• 1:21:50
  100,000 watts of output.
• 1:21:52
  And they do that because
• 1:21:54
  the antennas are really,
• 1:21:57
  really short because you
• 1:21:58
  can't put a 311 foot antenna
• 1:22:01
  on a car.
• 1:22:02
  - No, it's not gonna work anywhere.
• 1:22:05
  - That would be really cool though.
• 1:22:07
  I can use some AI videos with that.
• 1:22:10
  That'd be really neat.
• 1:22:11
  All right, so finally to wrap it up,
• 1:22:13
  the antenna wire or coax length.
• 1:22:17
  There's an old wives tail, or in this
• 1:22:19
  case, a sea-bearer's
• 1:22:20
  tail that the coax should
• 1:22:22
  be a multiple of the length
• 1:22:24
  of the antenna.
• 1:22:26
  So it's like, it has to be, I don't know,
• 1:22:28
  three times the length of
• 1:22:29
  the antenna or whatever,
• 1:22:31
  and they cut it, they
• 1:22:31
  measure it and cut it.
• 1:22:33
  Or the one I've always heard was,
• 1:22:34
  just make sure your coax is 20 feet long.
• 1:22:37
  And if you don't need 20 feet of coax,
• 1:22:39
  you loop it up and put it in the coil.
• 1:22:42
  Now, this is wrong.
• 1:22:44
  It is absolutely wrong.
• 1:22:46
  I mean, if you, this
• 1:22:46
  all has to do with SWRs,
• 1:22:49
  tuning the antenna system
• 1:22:52
  so it gets the right match
• 1:22:54
  to the radio and people will
• 1:22:56
  check things with an SWR meter
• 1:22:57
  and people are right now streaming.
• 1:23:00
  I've changed the
• 1:23:01
  length of the coax before
• 1:23:02
  to get a better SWR.
• 1:23:04
  And it absolutely will make a difference.
• 1:23:06
  But if that does work, that means your
• 1:23:09
  antenna installation
• 1:23:10
  is wrong because the coax
• 1:23:13
  is supposed to be invisible
• 1:23:15
  to the radio.
• 1:23:17
  I mean, the only thing
• 1:23:18
  it's there for is just to get
• 1:23:19
  the information to and from the antenna.
• 1:23:23
  So if it's making an adjustment to your,
• 1:23:26
  how much wattage you're getting out,
• 1:23:27
  because the SWR is, how
• 1:23:29
  much wattage is going out,
• 1:23:31
  how much wattage is coming back in.
• 1:23:32
  And it does make a
• 1:23:33
  difference on receive as well,
• 1:23:34
  but it's just not,
• 1:23:35
  there's not a wattage thing
• 1:23:36
  that to consider.
• 1:23:38
  So you need to go back and look at your
• 1:23:40
  antenna installation
• 1:23:41
  and make sure that the
• 1:23:42
  antenna is grounded properly,
• 1:23:44
  the coax doesn't have problems,
• 1:23:47
  and then the coax is actually, the shield
• 1:23:49
  and the center conductor are
• 1:23:51
  actually connected properly
• 1:23:52
  to the connector.
• 1:23:53
  There's a lot of things there.
• 1:23:55
  What you should do with coax,
• 1:23:56
  the wire that connects
• 1:23:57
  the antenna to the radio,
• 1:23:59
  is you wanna make that
• 1:24:00
  as short as possible,
• 1:24:03
  because the less coax you have,
• 1:24:06
  the more signal you're
• 1:24:07
  getting to the antenna
• 1:24:09
  and getting from the antenna.
• 1:24:11
  - Makes sense.
• 1:24:12
  - Yeah, so cut the coax,
• 1:24:14
  usually on the side
• 1:24:15
  that plugs into the radio
• 1:24:17
  and put on a proper connector.
• 1:24:20
  And I, they do have crimp on connectors,
• 1:24:22
  I never ever liked those.
• 1:24:24
  I would get a soldering iron out and
• 1:24:25
  learn how to solder.
• 1:24:26
  It's not difficult at all.
• 1:24:28
  And I'm sure you say the
• 1:24:29
  same thing about welding, Larry.
• 1:24:31
  It's once you know how to
• 1:24:32
  do it, it's not a problem.
• 1:24:33
  But you have to get there by practicing.
• 1:24:36
  - Yeah, so how does the new antennas
• 1:24:39
  or in the new Jeeps
• 1:24:41
  that are into windows,
• 1:24:42
  does it have any effect on any of this?
• 1:24:44
  - Yeah, it's gonna suck more.
• 1:24:46
  - Okay, more suckage.
• 1:24:48
  - Yeah.
• 1:24:48
  - More suckage.
• 1:24:49
  - Yeah, but they make up for that.
• 1:24:51
  I mean, even the FM radio
• 1:24:52
  stations, which by the way,
• 1:24:54
  you can, I don't know what
• 1:24:55
  the length of the antenna is
• 1:24:56
  on the Jeep, the factory antenna,
• 1:24:59
  but it's, I think it's
• 1:25:00
  close to or around the size
• 1:25:02
  that you need for FM
• 1:25:03
  radio, that 2.36 feet.
• 1:25:05
  So I don't, it may be three feet long.
• 1:25:07
  So for the FM good time radio,
• 1:25:10
  the antenna that is on
• 1:25:11
  your Jeep is sized properly
• 1:25:14
  for the FM radio band.
• 1:25:17
  And I'll just, I said, I wasn't gonna
• 1:25:19
  technical this thing up,
• 1:25:20
  but there's something that I need to say.
• 1:25:22
  It doesn't matter if, like for TV,
• 1:25:26
  you'll see these digital TV antennas
• 1:25:28
  and you gotta pay more money for them
• 1:25:31
  because they're for the new digital TV.
• 1:25:33
  All right, how can I say
• 1:25:34
  this carefully in the family
• 1:25:36
  or in a way, bullshit.
• 1:25:39
  The antenna is the size for the frequency
• 1:25:42
  that what's been transmitted.
• 1:25:45
  So it doesn't matter if
• 1:25:47
  it's digital or Pokemon
• 1:25:48
  or whatever you wanna call it,
• 1:25:50
  it's the same damn antenna
• 1:25:51
  because it's the same damn channels.
• 1:25:53
  They move the
• 1:25:53
  channels around a little bit,
• 1:25:54
  the frequencies that
• 1:25:55
  were what they're assigned
• 1:25:56
  to different channels,
• 1:25:57
  but it's still in the same
• 1:25:58
  band area that the TV was in.
• 1:26:01
  So a standard gravity
• 1:26:02
  ears or one that you had
• 1:26:04
  from 40 years ago, will work on that TV
• 1:26:06
  to receive digital or analog signals.
• 1:26:08
  And I know some of you
• 1:26:09
  don't know what the difference
• 1:26:10
  when those two things are.
• 1:26:12
  - And interesting that
• 1:26:14
  they've been marketing to us
• 1:26:15
  that that would not work.
• 1:26:16
  - Oh yeah, well, I don't
• 1:26:18
  know if they say it won't work
• 1:26:19
  or they imply that this is gonna work.
• 1:26:22
  - I think it's implied for sure.
• 1:26:24
  - Yeah, cause they could,
• 1:26:25
  I mean, they could get
• 1:26:26
  their ass in a sling,
• 1:26:27
  but there's people
• 1:26:28
  that firmly believe that,
• 1:26:29
  that it's not a digital
• 1:26:30
  antenna, it ain't gonna work.
• 1:26:32
  I mean, so anyway,
• 1:26:34
  it's just a bunch of crap.
• 1:26:36
  So did you guys, I mean, you guys,
• 1:26:38
  I think have heard this before from me.
• 1:26:40
  Did this generate any questions for you
• 1:26:42
  or do you see any inaccuracies here
• 1:26:44
  that it feels like I
• 1:26:46
  missed something on this?
• 1:26:48
  - No, it makes sense to me.
• 1:26:50
  We have a ham antenna
• 1:26:51
  as well with our GMRS.
• 1:26:54
  So I'm just curious now
• 1:26:55
  that you made me think about it
• 1:26:56
  as where did our antenna go for that Jeep
• 1:26:59
  for the AM-FM radio?
• 1:27:00
  Because I'm pretty
• 1:27:01
  sure it had one on there.
• 1:27:03
  So now I gotta go out to
• 1:27:04
  the Jeep and look and see
• 1:27:05
  if it's still there or
• 1:27:06
  did Bill take it off?
• 1:27:07
  Because we had to move our
• 1:27:08
  GMRS and our ham antennas
• 1:27:11
  to the front of the Jeep
• 1:27:12
  because the back of the Jeep,
• 1:27:14
  it was too much
• 1:27:14
  interference with the tire carrier,
• 1:27:18
  which is all metal.
• 1:27:18
  And we couldn't get any kind of reception
• 1:27:21
  from the ham or the GMRS.
• 1:27:23
  - Yeah, I highly
• 1:27:24
  recommend putting the antenna
• 1:27:26
  where you're very near or
• 1:27:29
  preferably in the middle
• 1:27:30
  of a nice flat metal surface.
• 1:27:33
  - Yeah, I think they're on the, if I
• 1:27:34
  remember exactly right,
• 1:27:35
  they are on the front, just on the side
• 1:27:39
  below the windshield on
• 1:27:41
  the, both on each side.
• 1:27:42
  - Yeah, the cowl.
• 1:27:43
  - So, mm-hmm, exactly.
• 1:27:45
  - It's not optimum,
• 1:27:46
  but that's a lot better
• 1:27:47
  than having it next
• 1:27:48
  to the metal and glass
• 1:27:49
  and everything else on
• 1:27:50
  the back of the Jeep.
• 1:27:50
  - It was our only option
• 1:27:51
  because we couldn't put it on
• 1:27:52
  top because of how we wheel.
• 1:27:55
  - Oh yeah.
• 1:27:56
  - And there was no place on the sides
• 1:27:57
  other than those two front spots.
• 1:28:00
  And it looks good, it's not a problem,
• 1:28:01
  but they are small antennas.
• 1:28:03
  They're probably like the GMRS.
• 1:28:06
  Well, they're a little
• 1:28:07
  more than six inches, I think.
• 1:28:08
  But anyway, yeah.
• 1:28:10
  - And some people have
• 1:28:11
  asked about the ghost antennas.
• 1:28:13
  So I looked it up before we did the show.
• 1:28:15
  The ghost antennas are about
• 1:28:18
  three and a half inches long.
• 1:28:21
  So they are literally half the size
• 1:28:23
  of what you need for GMRS.
• 1:28:26
  So if you're having
• 1:28:27
  problems with the ghost antenna,
• 1:28:29
  and keep in mind, if you're on the trail
• 1:28:31
  and you're a mile or less from somebody,
• 1:28:34
  hell yeah, the ghost
• 1:28:34
  antenna should work just fine.
• 1:28:37
  If you wanna be the channel commander,
• 1:28:38
  because there's another group
• 1:28:39
  using the channel that you're on,
• 1:28:41
  you get a really nice big antenna
• 1:28:43
  and switch over to 50 watts.
• 1:28:45
  - No, don't do that.
• 1:28:47
  That's just the funny thing.
• 1:28:49
  - I'll say for me, radios are something
• 1:28:52
  I really don't know very much about.
• 1:28:55
  So all this information
• 1:28:56
  is good for me because,
• 1:28:57
  well, don't really know much about it.
• 1:28:59
  - Yeah, but you and Josh, as we've
• 1:29:01
  learned in the past.
• 1:29:05
  Now we're gonna see if Josh listens.
• 1:29:07
  - Exactly, he's gonna call in.
• 1:29:09
  What the hell's wrong with you people?
• 1:29:11
  - All right, so
• 1:29:13
  hopefully that wasn't too dry.
• 1:29:14
  Hopefully that made sense.
• 1:29:16
  And you probably didn't
• 1:29:17
  wanna know to begin with,
• 1:29:18
  but now you do.
• 1:29:19
  - Now you do.
• 1:29:22
  (upbeat music)
• 1:29:23
  - Where's the noob?
• 1:29:25
  - Noob, noob, noob, hey noobie, noobie.
• 1:29:29
  - Noob, nugget.
• 1:29:31
  - It's time for noobie nuggets.
• 1:29:34
  - Well, we're gonna talk
• 1:29:35
  about holding up your fingers
• 1:29:36
  as you pass other jeepers.
• 1:29:38
  And no, we're not flipping people off.
• 1:29:40
  We're gonna be nice on the trails.
• 1:29:42
  But it's really helpful to know when,
• 1:29:45
  if you have a group
• 1:29:45
  that's coming towards you
• 1:29:48
  and it's a narrow trail,
• 1:29:49
  which most of us wheel on narrow trails,
• 1:29:51
  you kind of wanna let the other group
• 1:29:52
  know how many you have,
• 1:29:53
  especially if they pulled over.
• 1:29:55
  And likewise, if
• 1:29:56
  you're the one pulling over
• 1:29:57
  and letting their group through,
• 1:30:00
  it's really nice if you
• 1:30:01
  could just notify the leader
• 1:30:03
  of each of those of how
• 1:30:04
  many people on the jeeps.
• 1:30:06
  And sometimes we know
• 1:30:07
  when we're on a trail run,
• 1:30:09
  maybe you get spread out a little bit
• 1:30:11
  and there's people way back.
• 1:30:13
  So that's where the
• 1:30:14
  radio comms come into place.
• 1:30:16
  You can hear on the
• 1:30:16
  radio, hey, we're pulling over.
• 1:30:18
  There's six people coming through.
• 1:30:21
  Well, then you and the group knows
• 1:30:22
  you're counting the
• 1:30:23
  jeeps when it's ready for you
• 1:30:25
  to be able to move forward.
• 1:30:26
  And that's really what
• 1:30:26
  we're talking about here,
• 1:30:27
  is being able to just sort of notify.
• 1:30:29
  We talk a lot about
• 1:30:30
  etiquette and being kind
• 1:30:31
  and having manners on the
• 1:30:33
  trails, and this is part of it.
• 1:30:34
  But I can tell you that
• 1:30:36
  there's so many drivers out there
• 1:30:38
  that have no idea why
• 1:30:40
  we're putting our fingers up.
• 1:30:41
  So what I'm talking about is you,
• 1:30:43
  maybe I've got three people behind me
• 1:30:44
  or four people behind me,
• 1:30:45
  I'm gonna put up four fingers.
• 1:30:48
  It's funny, I laugh when I'm saying this.
• 1:30:51
  Half the people that we say
• 1:30:52
  that to don't even have a clue
• 1:30:54
  why I put my four fingers up.
• 1:30:55
  They're like, hey, how you doing?
• 1:30:57
  Or whatever they're doing,
• 1:30:58
  they just don't understand it.
• 1:30:59
  - It's a half-assed jeep wave, yeah.
• 1:31:00
  - Exactly, like, oh, whatever.
• 1:31:03
  What's really bad is when there's two,
• 1:31:04
  like, hey, there's two
• 1:31:05
  behind her, like, hey, peace out,
• 1:31:06
  and you're like, no, there's two people.
• 1:31:09
  So really it's about a communication of,
• 1:31:12
  there's this many in our group.
• 1:31:14
  And the theory is that
• 1:31:16
  if I put up four fingers,
• 1:31:18
  the guy behind me
• 1:31:18
  puts up three, two, one,
• 1:31:20
  and the last guy
• 1:31:21
  actually does sort of a fist.
• 1:31:22
  And I know that may not sound like who,
• 1:31:25
  today in the technical
• 1:31:26
  world, not technical,
• 1:31:27
  being sensitive to the world,
• 1:31:31
  sensitive culture as we call it.
• 1:31:33
  That's not what we're doing.
• 1:31:34
  We're not saying, big fist or whatever.
• 1:31:36
  It's really telling you
• 1:31:37
  that there are no more.
• 1:31:38
  So if you're not familiar with this,
• 1:31:40
  a lot of people that
• 1:31:41
  off-road quads motorcycles,
• 1:31:43
  being out in the desert,
• 1:31:45
  that's really where we just instantly go.
• 1:31:47
  If you're driving on a
• 1:31:48
  road and you pass motorcycles,
• 1:31:50
  more than likely those
• 1:31:51
  guys are gonna hold up
• 1:31:52
  one finger behind two, whatever it is.
• 1:31:54
  And then you know, as a jeeper,
• 1:31:56
  hey, there's three of those guys.
• 1:31:57
  So that is one way to do it.
• 1:31:59
  It's just a real simple way,
• 1:32:00
  especially if you're
• 1:32:01
  brand new to jeeping,
• 1:32:02
  you may be wondering why somebody's
• 1:32:03
  holding up fingers at you.
• 1:32:04
  That's not a mean thing.
• 1:32:06
  At the same time, if you're experienced,
• 1:32:08
  please, please try to remember
• 1:32:10
  to teach the newbies out there,
• 1:32:12
  that that's kind of what we do.
• 1:32:13
  So communication on the comms says,
• 1:32:15
  hey, there's so many we're pulling over,
• 1:32:17
  or we're passing these guys.
• 1:32:20
  And you can say the guy at the end,
• 1:32:23
  the tail leader, he's gonna hold up zero,
• 1:32:27
  saying we're all done.
• 1:32:28
  So if you're not comfortable
• 1:32:30
  with holding up your fingers,
• 1:32:31
  another way to do it
• 1:32:32
  is roll down your window
• 1:32:33
  and just tell the guy
• 1:32:34
  in the first as you pass,
• 1:32:35
  hey, there's six behind me.
• 1:32:37
  And then he can radio or she can radio
• 1:32:39
  to the number in
• 1:32:40
  their group and say, hey,
• 1:32:41
  there's six of them.
• 1:32:42
  And that's just a way
• 1:32:43
  of doing communication.
• 1:32:44
  So be aware out there,
• 1:32:46
  try to keep yourself
• 1:32:47
  positive on the roads,
• 1:32:49
  hold up your fingers,
• 1:32:50
  wave, all that good stuff.
• 1:32:52
  But just let people know
• 1:32:53
  how many are on a group,
• 1:32:54
  but it just makes the experience better.
• 1:32:56
  So you guys have
• 1:32:57
  anything else you wanna add?
• 1:32:58
  - I have a small whiteboard
• 1:33:01
  that I'm gonna take to EJS with me
• 1:33:05
  and I'm gonna write the number on there.
• 1:33:06
  And if I have time,
• 1:33:08
  the little stick figures
• 1:33:09
  and just hold it up as I drive by.
• 1:33:13
  I'll put a Jeep Talk
• 1:33:14
  Show logo on the whiteboard.
• 1:33:17
  Somebody's gonna wanna
• 1:33:18
  take a picture of this idiot.
• 1:33:20
  - Exactly, I was just gonna say, oh dear.
• 1:33:23
  - Playing hangman on the whiteboard,
• 1:33:25
  this Jeep's come by.
• 1:33:27
  - So Wendy, what's the proper response?
• 1:33:28
  Is there a response
• 1:33:29
  that you give to somebody?
• 1:33:30
  I mean, a nod sounds right,
• 1:33:32
  but it seems like
• 1:33:33
  there almost needs to be
• 1:33:34
  a hand signal and response to the thing.
• 1:33:36
  - Well, yeah.
• 1:33:37
  I mean, if your windows are up,
• 1:33:38
  of course you could do
• 1:33:39
  a thumbs up, I gotcha.
• 1:33:42
  Usually the leaders are
• 1:33:43
  the ones communicating
• 1:33:44
  with the group through radio comms.
• 1:33:47
  Hey, we're pulling over,
• 1:33:48
  there are six people passing,
• 1:33:49
  or hey, they stopped in
• 1:33:51
  front of us, we're passing them.
• 1:33:53
  And that's the clue so
• 1:33:55
  that if you're experienced,
• 1:33:57
  you would know where you
• 1:33:58
  are in position of line.
• 1:33:59
  So you might say
• 1:34:00
  there's three more behind me,
• 1:34:02
  or certainly the tail
• 1:34:04
  gunner has to put his hand up
• 1:34:05
  as hey, we're done, it's clear.
• 1:34:07
  So what's the response?
• 1:34:09
  Thank you, have a great day.
• 1:34:10
  Thanks for letting us know, whatever, so.
• 1:34:13
  - Oh, and you didn't mention this,
• 1:34:15
  but I think it's worth saying,
• 1:34:16
  this is only whenever you're
• 1:34:17
  dealing with other Jeepers.
• 1:34:19
  If it's like Toyotas or
• 1:34:21
  anything else, screw them.
• 1:34:22
  They can count, well, they can't count,
• 1:34:25
  but they can just
• 1:34:25
  count the Jeeps themselves.
• 1:34:26
  - No, no, Tony, Tony.
• 1:34:28
  We have to do this to everybody.
• 1:34:30
  - Oh, man. - That's so bad, I'm sorry.
• 1:34:32
  - Mom, I can't have any fun.
• 1:34:34
  - But honestly, that is
• 1:34:35
  where you run into more problems.
• 1:34:37
  There's a lot of
• 1:34:37
  roads up here in Big Bear
• 1:34:38
  where you can drive a regular vehicle,
• 1:34:40
  it's just a stock, like
• 1:34:42
  a fire road or whatever.
• 1:34:44
  And you need to get on that road
• 1:34:45
  to get to the heavier trails.
• 1:34:46
  - Oh, they're confused as hell.
• 1:34:48
  - Oh, they have no idea.
• 1:34:49
  That's where you get
• 1:34:50
  the really strange looks
• 1:34:51
  because you're holding up
• 1:34:52
  three fingers, two fingers,
• 1:34:53
  you're like, what's
• 1:34:53
  going on with the fingers?
• 1:34:55
  But again, I don't fault those people,
• 1:34:58
  they don't really know.
• 1:34:58
  But when you're dealing
• 1:34:59
  with other kinds of groups
• 1:35:01
  of wheelers, sometimes
• 1:35:03
  rolling down the windows,
• 1:35:03
  your best bet, if you
• 1:35:04
  get that sort of deer
• 1:35:05
  in the headlights, stairs, you're
• 1:35:06
  starting to pass them.
• 1:35:08
  You're like, whoa,
• 1:35:08
  okay, what does that mean?
• 1:35:09
  You're like, hey, there's five behind us,
• 1:35:11
  so we'll pass, and thank you very much
• 1:35:13
  for setting aside for us and let us pass.
• 1:35:16
  Yeah. - So I'm sure--
• 1:35:19
  - One guy said, one guy said peace,
• 1:35:20
  and a couple of backs said word.
• 1:35:22
  - Exactly.
• 1:35:24
  It's funny though,
• 1:35:24
  when you start doing this
• 1:35:25
  and you understand it,
• 1:35:26
  it's actually hilarious.
• 1:35:28
  I said to Bill one time,
• 1:35:29
  we should actually be
• 1:35:30
  recording their responses
• 1:35:31
  because they're pretty damn hilarious.
• 1:35:32
  - That's just good, you can.
• 1:35:34
  - And part of it is
• 1:35:35
  people just don't know,
• 1:35:36
  so it's part of my, once a
• 1:35:38
  year I gotta talk about this.
• 1:35:39
  - Absolutely. -
• 1:35:39
  Because we have new listeners
• 1:35:40
  all the time, and I think it's important
• 1:35:42
  as experienced jeepers
• 1:35:43
  that we try to pass on
• 1:35:44
  some of this hidden code, if you will,
• 1:35:47
  or sort of an unwritten code
• 1:35:48
  in the world of off-roading
• 1:35:50
  that we're trying to push
• 1:35:51
  over into the Jeep world.
• 1:35:52
  - Well, it kind of makes the
• 1:35:53
  whole thing more interesting
• 1:35:55
  because there's all these little things
• 1:35:56
  that go on with Jeeps and jeepers
• 1:35:59
  that are not readily apparent.
• 1:36:00
  And you never like asking somebody,
• 1:36:02
  especially if you're very
• 1:36:05
  new to them or even a stranger,
• 1:36:06
  because it's like
• 1:36:07
  they're gonna maybe look at you
• 1:36:08
  and go like, "Oh,
• 1:36:08
  you're not a jeeper, are you?
• 1:36:10
  Are you fresh from the mall?"
• 1:36:11
  That type of thing.
• 1:36:12
  So it's good that people can come here
• 1:36:14
  and find this stuff out,
• 1:36:16
  and we only judge you
• 1:36:17
  in person and on Discord.
• 1:36:19
  So-- (laughs)
• 1:36:21
  - Well, and that's a good
• 1:36:22
  point you brought up though.
• 1:36:23
  If you're leading a group
• 1:36:25
  and you know it's gonna be a busy weekend
• 1:36:28
  for whether it's a holiday or just,
• 1:36:29
  hey, there's snow people learned
• 1:36:30
  or people going on the mud
• 1:36:31
  or whatever they're doing,
• 1:36:33
  I think that's part
• 1:36:33
  of our sort of expected
• 1:36:36
  is being a mentor to just tell the group,
• 1:36:38
  "Listen, if we're gonna pass anybody
• 1:36:40
  go in the opposite
• 1:36:40
  direction, then we're gonna do this."
• 1:36:42
  And maybe you have to
• 1:36:43
  explain it that way.
• 1:36:44
  Like maybe it starts
• 1:36:44
  at that drivers meeting.
• 1:36:46
  I don't know.
• 1:36:46
  - Yeah, I was actually
• 1:36:48
  thinking the same thing
• 1:36:49
  about the drivers meeting
• 1:36:50
  and just going over the basics.
• 1:36:53
  That's good information.
• 1:36:54
  - So let me ask you, Wendy,
• 1:36:56
  I think that I'm okay to talk about this.
• 1:36:59
  I recently received Don's new book.
• 1:37:02
  I don't know what the status of it is.
• 1:37:04
  If it's out now or not.
• 1:37:06
  - I think it is.
• 1:37:07
  - Okay.
• 1:37:08
  It's a, and Don
• 1:37:09
  Alexander writes a series,
• 1:37:10
  has written a series of books,
• 1:37:12
  and I doubt very
• 1:37:12
  seriously that he's done.
• 1:37:14
  It's like Jeep mods.
• 1:37:16
  So this one is "The Overland
• 1:37:17
  and Vehicle Builder's Guide."
• 1:37:19
  And it's a really very
• 1:37:22
  colorful, I got a paperback.
• 1:37:24
  I don't know if they'd
• 1:37:25
  make any hardbacks in this.
• 1:37:26
  - No, it's all paper.
• 1:37:27
  - Yeah, I got a
• 1:37:28
  paperback version of this.
• 1:37:29
  I'm gonna take it to EJS with me,
• 1:37:31
  which yes, this episode is
• 1:37:33
  being released while we're at EJS.
• 1:37:36
  I know that F.U. Bob
• 1:37:37
  especially is gonna be looking,
• 1:37:39
  wanna look at this because it is a,
• 1:37:41
  he's a big overlanding fan.
• 1:37:43
  And so I'm gonna take this to EJS
• 1:37:45
  and let him have a look at it.
• 1:37:47
  But, you know, Wendy, I was gonna say,
• 1:37:50
  people think, really thankful,
• 1:37:52
  think really largely due to the internet,
• 1:37:55
  people are finding out new
• 1:37:56
  information all the time.
• 1:37:58
  And I'm sure some
• 1:37:59
  people recently found out
• 1:38:00
  what an upside down pineapple means.
• 1:38:02
  So they can be kind of
• 1:38:04
  concerned about what these,
• 1:38:06
  these heathens are
• 1:38:07
  flipping them on the trail
• 1:38:09
  and not understanding that
• 1:38:10
  it's a useful information
• 1:38:11
  that it's some sort of unknown meeting
• 1:38:14
  that they don't wanna
• 1:38:15
  know what it's all about.
• 1:38:16
  - Exactly.
• 1:38:17
  - I'm thinking that
• 1:38:17
  Don needs to write a book
• 1:38:19
  about Jeep signs, the
• 1:38:21
  things that Jeepers don't know,
• 1:38:24
  that most Jeepers
• 1:38:24
  that are new to jeeping,
• 1:38:27
  the Jeep wave, the, you know,
• 1:38:31
  telling how many people
• 1:38:31
  are on the trail ride.
• 1:38:33
  What's some other stuff, Larry?
• 1:38:34
  I mean, what else do we do
• 1:38:35
  that most people don't do?
• 1:38:36
  - Well, actually in his other book,
• 1:38:39
  which is for new off-roaders,
• 1:38:41
  there is a lot of that
• 1:38:42
  information in there too.
• 1:38:44
  - Interesting.
• 1:38:45
  You can find that on our website of
• 1:38:47
  jeep4byfourschool.com.
• 1:38:49
  There's all his books are there.
• 1:38:50
  I don't think we've
• 1:38:51
  uploaded his Overland book yet,
• 1:38:53
  but everything else is there.
• 1:38:54
  But that's got some
• 1:38:55
  really good information,
• 1:38:56
  but that is a good suggestion
• 1:38:57
  to maybe do more
• 1:38:58
  specific things on, you know,
• 1:39:00
  when you're new, what does this mean?
• 1:39:03
  - We need to get Don on the show
• 1:39:05
  and do like a audible books
• 1:39:07
  where Don reads his book to us.
• 1:39:09
  (Don laughing)
• 1:39:10
  - It's gonna be great.
• 1:39:11
  - But if the upside down
• 1:39:11
  pineapple's out in front
• 1:39:12
  of your tent, you're gonna find out
• 1:39:14
  how friendly the group really is.
• 1:39:16
  (Don laughing)
• 1:39:17
  - Oh, jeez. All right.
• 1:39:20
  So I wanna warn everybody,
• 1:39:22
  Steve O has left his house
• 1:39:24
  and left his state of origin.
• 1:39:27
  I think he's in
• 1:39:27
  Arizona right now, Wheeling.
• 1:39:29
  We still, he says he's going to EJS,
• 1:39:32
  but, and I probably know by now
• 1:39:33
  the time you're hearing this,
• 1:39:35
  but we're still concerned
• 1:39:36
  that Steve O is gonna back out.
• 1:39:38
  - Uh-oh, oh dear.
• 1:39:40
  - And he's cussing at me right now.
• 1:39:41
  This is something we
• 1:39:42
  give more time about.
• 1:39:43
  So anyway, he called in a
• 1:39:44
  voicemail for us tonight.
• 1:39:46
  And if you have a
• 1:39:48
  slight smell of bird poop,
• 1:39:50
  that's cause he's been
• 1:39:50
  cleaning his hood off
• 1:39:52
  from parking under a
• 1:39:54
  tree for the shade in Texas.
• 1:39:57
  - With all the birds, all
• 1:39:58
  the birds were on that thing.
• 1:40:01
  - Yes.
• 1:40:02
  I think Steve said in
• 1:40:04
  Discord, it was like an aviator.
• 1:40:05
  What did that park in an aviator?
• 1:40:07
  - Oh man.
• 1:40:09
  - Hey, was that an amarillo?
• 1:40:10
  - Was it? I don't know.
• 1:40:12
  - I don't know, I'm asking.
• 1:40:13
  - That was, you would have to poop a lot
• 1:40:16
  to deal with the cows
• 1:40:17
  that are in an amarillo.
• 1:40:20
  - Good evening Jeep Talk Show.
• 1:40:21
  This is Steve O of Aurora, Illinois.
• 1:40:24
  Currently in Cottonwood,
• 1:40:26
  Arizona on the road to EJS 2024.
• 1:40:30
  It's been a wonderful
• 1:40:31
  day out in Arizona today
• 1:40:33
  doing two trails, Soldier Pass.
• 1:40:36
  And one trail I hadn't
• 1:40:37
  planned on doing was Broken Arrow,
• 1:40:39
  but thanks to the
• 1:40:39
  recommendations of JTSC members,
• 1:40:42
  Bill and John Lee, I took a shot at it.
• 1:40:46
  And wow, what an incredible trail.
• 1:40:49
  Special thanks to those two,
• 1:40:50
  cause if it happened for them,
• 1:40:51
  I would not have done this trail
• 1:40:53
  as I didn't think it
• 1:40:53
  would be a challenging one,
• 1:40:54
  but it was more about the
• 1:40:56
  destination on this one,
• 1:40:57
  and definitely, and also their insight
• 1:41:00
  into the back way to Crown King,
• 1:41:04
  including where to get
• 1:41:04
  a beer once it was over,
• 1:41:06
  was very much appreciated.
• 1:41:08
  Just a wealth of information
• 1:41:09
  from the Jeep Talk Show team
• 1:41:11
  that helped me have an
• 1:41:12
  incredible time off here.
• 1:41:14
  Tomorrow is Sineb
• 1:41:14
  and all this wheeling before EJS.
• 1:41:27
  - Yeah, and those are
• 1:41:27
  good trails in Arizona.
• 1:41:29
  I've not personally been on them,
• 1:41:30
  but I've seen pictures
• 1:41:30
  and know people that have,
• 1:41:31
  so that's good for him.
• 1:41:33
  - Yeah, I've seen the
• 1:41:34
  pictures he's been posting
• 1:41:35
  and it definitely looks like an epic trip
• 1:41:38
  there he's got going on.
• 1:41:39
  - Oh yeah.
• 1:41:40
  - And you gotta take pictures.
• 1:41:41
  I mean, if I could afford it,
• 1:41:43
  I would take a photographer with me
• 1:41:45
  because it's hard to take enough pictures
• 1:41:50
  because you're out
• 1:41:50
  there, you're doing it,
• 1:41:51
  you're having a blast, and it's just,
• 1:41:54
  you get back and you go,
• 1:41:55
  oh, that was such a great, fun trip.
• 1:41:57
  And then you go back and look
• 1:41:58
  at the 10 pictures you took.
• 1:42:00
  But you're just so involved in things.
• 1:42:03
  Larry, did you go on the Arizona thing
• 1:42:05
  with John and Bill, I can't remember.
• 1:42:07
  - No, I couldn't go to that one.
• 1:42:09
  But truthfully, that was the reason
• 1:42:11
  why I started the YouTube channel.
• 1:42:13
  It was more about just
• 1:42:14
  documenting all the adventure.
• 1:42:16
  For me, for later, or
• 1:42:18
  for the family, for later,
• 1:42:19
  as it was for anything else.
• 1:42:22
  - Is that on the main channel?
• 1:42:24
  And tell us the name of it, please.
• 1:42:26
  - Gping Mo, J-E-P-I-N-G-M-O.
• 1:42:30
  - And you've got all
• 1:42:31
  kinds of things there,
• 1:42:31
  not just wheeling videos.
• 1:42:32
  You have how-to videos as well,
• 1:42:36
  including how to build up
• 1:42:38
  a 50-year-old Dodge truck.
• 1:42:42
  - Yes, a little bit of everything.
• 1:42:44
  And no, my name is not Mo.
• 1:42:48
  - All right, well,
• 1:42:50
  thanks for the call, Steve.
• 1:42:51
  We really appreciate it.
• 1:42:52
  And boy, that was so unusual.
• 1:42:53
  He was very nice, and he was not giving
• 1:42:56
  anybody a hard time.
• 1:42:58
  Or it's kind of like
• 1:42:59
  me when I'm being nice.
• 1:43:00
  Everybody gets nervous.
• 1:43:02
  - We wheeled a couple times.
• 1:43:04
  He's a nice guy.
• 1:43:11
  - Oh, hey!
• 1:43:13
  - Welcome to
• 1:43:14
  Fabricating Frenzy with Larry,
• 1:43:17
  also known as
• 1:43:18
  J-E-P-I-N-G-M-O, whose hair is not curly.
• 1:43:26
  - With EJS starting this
• 1:43:27
  week and the vendor show
• 1:43:29
  being on the Friday after the show airs,
• 1:43:32
  I thought I would share
• 1:43:33
  some of my favorite vendors
• 1:43:35
  and products that I use and can endorse.
• 1:43:39
  And we'll be at the show.
• 1:43:42
  And I'll leave a link for
• 1:43:43
  the vendors in the show notes.
• 1:43:46
  I just want to say that
• 1:43:47
  there are a lot of good vendors
• 1:43:49
  and products at the show,
• 1:43:51
  but I can't cover all of them.
• 1:43:53
  That would pretty much be an entire show
• 1:43:56
  of vendors and products.
• 1:44:00
  But let's start with
• 1:44:00
  airing up, something we all do.
• 1:44:03
  Now, there are two products that I have
• 1:44:05
  and use on the trail.
• 1:44:08
  Now, first, we all know power tank.
• 1:44:10
  That's a great way to air up without
• 1:44:12
  needing a compressor.
• 1:44:13
  You know, that power tank
• 1:44:14
  can do many other things
• 1:44:15
  than just air up tires too.
• 1:44:17
  And do a little research and you'll see
• 1:44:19
  that's a very versatile tool.
• 1:44:22
  And if you want to run a compressor,
• 1:44:24
  I very much like my Morflate.
• 1:44:26
  Now, Morflate's came
• 1:44:28
  out with several models
• 1:44:29
  that bought mine almost
• 1:44:30
  probably two and a half years ago.
• 1:44:33
  I find that's a very capable compressor
• 1:44:36
  that'll air up your tires really quickly.
• 1:44:39
  And they have several other features now
• 1:44:41
  since I've bought mine.
• 1:44:43
  Now, they both work great
• 1:44:45
  and are high-end products.
• 1:44:50
  Now, what I've covered many times
• 1:44:51
  is how to organize your tools.
• 1:44:54
  And for that, I like the
• 1:44:55
  Adventure Tool Company.
• 1:44:57
  Now, they make very
• 1:44:59
  high-quality tool rolls
• 1:45:02
  and ways to store your
• 1:45:03
  tools in various solutions.
• 1:45:06
  And they've always had
• 1:45:06
  something new at EJS.
• 1:45:10
  Now, what I like about these,
• 1:45:11
  they've done a lot of work
• 1:45:12
  on how to store those tools
• 1:45:13
  so they're not clanging and banging.
• 1:45:15
  And you always can tell that guy or gal
• 1:45:18
  who's got the metal toolbox on the trail
• 1:45:20
  because it's just
• 1:45:21
  making all kinds of racket.
• 1:45:23
  But those tool rolls are very nice.
• 1:45:27
  Now, if you're looking for trail welders,
• 1:45:30
  there's a couple of units out there also.
• 1:45:33
  So the biggest nicest one
• 1:45:36
  is Premier Power Welder.
• 1:45:39
  And it's a unit that's
• 1:45:40
  installed into your rig
• 1:45:42
  and lets you stick weld on the trail.
• 1:45:44
  Now, it's really nice
• 1:45:45
  because you can run different rods
• 1:45:48
  and, you know, well, different materials.
• 1:45:52
  It really is a very nice unit.
• 1:45:55
  And one of the attachments
• 1:45:56
  is the Bund Trail Welder.
• 1:45:59
  And that's a spool flux core welder.
• 1:46:02
  And I actually use the Bund
• 1:46:04
  Trail Welder with batteries.
• 1:46:06
  But you can actually plug it into that
• 1:46:10
  Premier Power Welder as well.
• 1:46:13
  Now, if you just want a
• 1:46:14
  total portable solution
• 1:46:17
  and you don't need
• 1:46:18
  anything installed into your rig
• 1:46:21
  or any outside batteries,
• 1:46:23
  check out the Carnage MIG Welder.
• 1:46:26
  And it's all enclosed in
• 1:46:28
  one case, your batteries,
• 1:46:30
  your wire, everything is in one of those
• 1:46:32
  like Pelican type cases.
• 1:46:34
  It's really a nice setup.
• 1:46:38
  Now, if you need lights,
• 1:46:39
  there's Tyree Off-Road Lighting.
• 1:46:42
  Now, I don't have their lights on mine,
• 1:46:46
  but I've seen their lights on the trail.
• 1:46:48
  Right, Tony?
• 1:46:49
  - Yes.
• 1:46:50
  - And then they're
• 1:46:52
  very high quality product.
• 1:46:54
  And I know Tony loves them, right?
• 1:46:56
  Because trust me, I've been behind him
• 1:46:58
  and he's had those on.
• 1:46:59
  Luckily, he's always in front of me.
• 1:47:00
  - I can't run them.
• 1:47:01
  They're so bright.
• 1:47:02
  I mean, I have to be alone.
• 1:47:04
  Or otherwise people give me crap.
• 1:47:05
  - I told you that.
• 1:47:06
  I told you that.
• 1:47:07
  Only the person in the lead
• 1:47:09
  needs those big old lights,
• 1:47:10
  but that's all right.
• 1:47:11
  It looks good, Tony.
• 1:47:12
  - The people's butts start hurting
• 1:47:13
  and they check their underwear
• 1:47:14
  to make sure it's all in the right way.
• 1:47:18
  - Because they think
• 1:47:18
  they're being trailed by UFO.
• 1:47:20
  - It's the heat on the back of the neck.
• 1:47:23
  - Exactly.
• 1:47:24
  So dang bright.
• 1:47:25
  I love it.
• 1:47:26
  - All right, so then
• 1:47:27
  there's one of my favorites,
• 1:47:28
  RockSight Engineering.
• 1:47:30
  And with their products,
• 1:47:32
  I love their step sliders.
• 1:47:35
  Now, I have beaten a tar out of mine
• 1:47:38
  and they've done a great job.
• 1:47:39
  So if you want a step that you
• 1:47:42
  can slide a big, heavy rig on
• 1:47:44
  and a retractable step,
• 1:47:47
  RockSight makes very nice products.
• 1:47:49
  So keep in mind when I say step,
• 1:47:50
  but you don't have
• 1:47:51
  the step that's hanging.
• 1:47:52
  They're actually, they're electrical.
• 1:47:55
  They come, they flip up out of the way.
• 1:47:58
  They tuck up, right?
• 1:47:59
  - Yeah, they just, they lift right up
• 1:48:00
  when you close the door.
• 1:48:01
  - Yep.
• 1:48:02
  And they work really nice.
• 1:48:03
  And they work good for a dog ramp.
• 1:48:04
  - I was just gonna mention that.
• 1:48:05
  - They do.
• 1:48:06
  - You use it for more than just
• 1:48:08
  protecting the Jeep.
• 1:48:10
  - Absolutely.
• 1:48:11
  Now, once again, there
• 1:48:12
  are many quality products
• 1:48:13
  that the show and you can't
• 1:48:15
  go wrong with any of them.
• 1:48:17
  And if I didn't reference
• 1:48:18
  them, don't send the hate mail.
• 1:48:21
  - Oh, you don't send the
• 1:48:23
  hate mail to send it to Nicky G.
• 1:48:25
  - Nicky G, attention to Nicky G.
• 1:48:28
  - But what I would ask
• 1:48:29
  is, is you can call in
• 1:48:31
  and tell us what your
• 1:48:32
  favorite vendor was there.
• 1:48:34
  And possibly if you bought
• 1:48:36
  anything from a vendor there.
• 1:48:39
  Now, one product I am installing
• 1:48:41
  right after we get them
• 1:48:42
  recording this is Racing Optics.
• 1:48:45
  And they'll be there as well.
• 1:48:46
  And it's like a windshield
• 1:48:47
  protecting protection film
• 1:48:49
  that goes on your Jeep windshield.
• 1:48:52
  That's supposed to help reduce the chips
• 1:48:54
  and all those marks
• 1:48:56
  you get on from the road.
• 1:48:57
  So I'll let you know how that works.
• 1:48:59
  Now you can see some of these videos
• 1:49:01
  or some of these
• 1:49:02
  products on our YouTube channel,
• 1:49:04
  Jeeping Mo, and you'll see the video
• 1:49:06
  for that Racing Optics one as well.
• 1:49:09
  So reach out and tell us what your
• 1:49:11
  thoughts of the show are.
• 1:49:12
  If you went to the show and
• 1:49:14
  you seen any of these products
• 1:49:15
  or any of that, call in and
• 1:49:17
  let us know what you liked,
• 1:49:20
  even what you didn't like,
• 1:49:21
  be interested to hear that.
• 1:49:23
  - Yeah, it's good information either way.
• 1:49:25
  - Yeah, I was gonna make a comment
• 1:49:27
  about your power tank and Morphlate.
• 1:49:29
  Morphlate does have a
• 1:49:31
  compressor you can actually,
• 1:49:32
  it's built into the Jeep.
• 1:49:34
  And then their system
• 1:49:35
  for airing up is tubes
• 1:49:37
  that connect to all four tires at once.
• 1:49:39
  So it's super easy to
• 1:49:41
  air up all at the same time
• 1:49:42
  and also air down.
• 1:49:44
  But you can also buy the
• 1:49:46
  Morphlate system of airing up
• 1:49:47
  without the compressor
• 1:49:48
  and use the power tank.
• 1:49:50
  So we have the power tank
• 1:49:51
  on board with our own system
• 1:49:53
  prior to Morphlate
• 1:49:54
  coming out with theirs,
• 1:49:55
  I wish Bill had patented ours.
• 1:49:59
  Cause he kind of made the
• 1:49:59
  system the same way prior.
• 1:50:01
  But we actually bought the connectors
• 1:50:03
  that Morphlate makes
• 1:50:04
  that's on the end of the
• 1:50:04
  tube that goes onto the tire
• 1:50:06
  and put it on our system.
• 1:50:08
  And we also have a Vayr
• 1:50:10
  compressor, which we love.
• 1:50:11
  It's separate, it's
• 1:50:12
  independent, I can move it
• 1:50:14
  and go to someone else's Jeep and air up.
• 1:50:16
  But anyway, I'm just saying,
• 1:50:17
  if anybody is
• 1:50:18
  interested in that power tank,
• 1:50:19
  when you're talking to them,
• 1:50:20
  you can go to the Morphlate booth
• 1:50:22
  and then just buy their airing up system,
• 1:50:24
  you have to buy the compressor
• 1:50:25
  and then you can use them together.
• 1:50:26
  And it saves you time on the trail.
• 1:50:28
  It's awesome, it's a great system.
• 1:50:30
  - I think having both
• 1:50:31
  a compressor and a tank
• 1:50:32
  is the best of both worlds.
• 1:50:34
  - Absolutely, yeah, we've used ours
• 1:50:36
  in multiple different ways
• 1:50:38
  and glad to have both on board
• 1:50:40
  and I will probably
• 1:50:41
  always carry both on board.
• 1:50:43
  - Yeah, one big plus about
• 1:50:45
  the power tank over a compressor
• 1:50:48
  is you can re-beat a tire really quickly
• 1:50:51
  with the power tank where
• 1:50:53
  it's a little bit of a struggle
• 1:50:54
  with the compressor.
• 1:50:55
  - Absolutely.
• 1:50:56
  - Even with the Morphlate.
• 1:50:57
  So Tyler has been on the
• 1:50:59
  show, owner of Morphlate.
• 1:51:02
  And if you mention the Jeep talk show
• 1:51:06
  and tell him the special code Morphlate,
• 1:51:10
  he will give you a big discount.
• 1:51:12
  - Ooh, nice.
• 1:51:15
  - Yeah, I called it
• 1:51:16
  Morphlate on the interview.
• 1:51:18
  - On the show?
• 1:51:19
  - Yeah, he was not, I
• 1:51:20
  mean, he was nice about it,
• 1:51:21
  but he was like, no, that's not it.
• 1:51:25
  (both laughing)
• 1:51:26
  But that's what
• 1:51:27
  you've come to expect here.
• 1:51:28
  Well, that's really cool.
• 1:51:29
  So I'll mention really quick,
• 1:51:30
  I've mentioned this several times
• 1:51:31
  because it was like, oh, I just wish I
• 1:51:32
  had the money for it.
• 1:51:33
  I was standing there
• 1:51:34
  looking over Chris's shoulder
• 1:51:37
  while he was talking to
• 1:51:38
  Steve from Power Tank.
• 1:51:40
  And I was looking at some of the prices
• 1:51:41
  of things they had up there.
• 1:51:43
  I would have loved to
• 1:51:45
  have picked up a power tank
• 1:51:46
  for the prices that they had at EJS.
• 1:51:49
  - Oh yeah, because you
• 1:51:49
  got a great discount.
• 1:51:50
  - Yeah, if you're thinking about,
• 1:51:52
  if you're gonna be at EJS
• 1:51:52
  and you've been thinking
• 1:51:54
  about a power tank, and I'm
• 1:51:56
  sure they're not the only vendor
• 1:51:57
  that does this, I
• 1:51:58
  just happened to know it
• 1:51:59
  because I know what the
• 1:52:00
  prices were on those tanks.
• 1:52:02
  And this may be a good time for you to go
• 1:52:05
  and make sure that you use
• 1:52:07
  for your significant other,
• 1:52:09
  but it was on sale.
• 1:52:11
  So this paid for the trip by itself here.
• 1:52:15
  - Exactly, I got a great deal.
• 1:52:18
  - You know, the one thing
• 1:52:19
  that Power Tank has done
• 1:52:21
  in previous shows, not saying for sure
• 1:52:23
  they're doing it on this one,
• 1:52:25
  but if you have a power
• 1:52:28
  tank that needed inflated,
• 1:52:29
  they had everything there
• 1:52:31
  and they just filled it for you
• 1:52:33
  for free. - Yeah, they filled it for you.
• 1:52:34
  Yeah, I don't know if
• 1:52:35
  they're doing that again at EJS.
• 1:52:36
  - Yeah, I'm not saying they are.
• 1:52:38
  - Right. - Yeah.
• 1:52:40
  - So Bob had told me
• 1:52:43
  that he spoke with Steve,
• 1:52:45
  I think it was at
• 1:52:46
  SEMA, yeah, it was at SEMA.
• 1:52:48
  And Steve was wanting to do a giveaway,
• 1:52:52
  and I think it was for a power tank,
• 1:52:54
  if we wanted to do a Jeep
• 1:52:56
  talk show run out there.
• 1:52:57
  I need to talk to Bob about that.
• 1:52:59
  And again, - Oh yeah, you should.
• 1:53:00
  That'd be cool. - And again,
• 1:53:01
  this is EJS week, so we
• 1:53:03
  recorded this the week prior.
• 1:53:04
  So that's why I'm saying it in the past.
• 1:53:08
  So I need to check with Bob on that.
• 1:53:09
  And it wasn't
• 1:53:10
  anything we were asking for.
• 1:53:11
  It was a Steve wanting
• 1:53:12
  to do something for us,
• 1:53:13
  which was really nice.
• 1:53:15
  I mean, and he was talking to Bob too,
• 1:53:17
  so I mean, that's amazing
• 1:53:18
  that he wants to do something
• 1:53:19
  and Bob's talking to him.
• 1:53:21
  (laughing) - Poor Bob. - Yeah, well, you know.
• 1:53:24
  (laughing)
• 1:53:25
  The whole joke with Bob.
• 1:53:27
  (laughing) - Oh yeah.
• 1:53:28
  - He is a really good guy.
• 1:53:31
  (laughing)
• 1:53:34
  - From the mind of Nicky G.
• 1:53:39
  (crowd cheering)
• 1:53:40
  - Hey, this is Nicky G.
• 1:53:41
  And I tell you guys, I
• 1:53:43
  tripped and fell and broke my thumb.
• 1:53:46
  Yeah, don't worry about me, I'm okay.
• 1:53:49
  But it makes it hard to drive my Jeep.
• 1:53:52
  I have an XJ and I use my
• 1:53:54
  thumb to hitchhike a lot.
• 1:53:55
  - Oh, good calling.
• 1:53:58
  - I'm gonna tell you that I
• 1:53:59
  got a new job at a bakery.
• 1:54:01
  Yeah, I need the dough.
• 1:54:03
  - Oh geez. - Two words.
• 1:54:05
  - I think I said that one before.
• 1:54:07
  Let me see if I come up with another one.
• 1:54:09
  I had a job working with
• 1:54:10
  compost, but I had to quit.
• 1:54:12
  Yeah, it was really degrading.
• 1:54:17
  I hate to say it, that's
• 1:54:18
  the one I'm gonna stick with.
• 1:54:20
  All right boys, we'll catch you later.
• 1:54:22
  You have a good one, bye.
• 1:54:23
  (upbeat music) - This has to go out on a high note.
• 1:54:26
  So did everybody gets
• 1:54:27
  the thumbs up okay thing?
• 1:54:28
  Because the thumbs up means okay.
• 1:54:30
  - Yeah, right.
• 1:54:31
  - I'm paying to pay a lot closer
• 1:54:33
  attention to these things
• 1:54:34
  because sometimes I go
• 1:54:35
  weeks without getting the joke.
• 1:54:40
  I wish Nicky G was going out there.
• 1:54:41
  That would be fun to
• 1:54:42
  have Nicky G out there.
• 1:54:42
  - That would be, yeah.
• 1:54:44
  - Absolutely.
• 1:54:45
  - You could tell jokes on the GMRS as we
• 1:54:47
  were driving around.
• 1:54:51
  - 16 hours of dad jokes.
• 1:54:53
  - Yeah, makes everybody wanna
• 1:54:54
  get out and check the trail.
• 1:54:56
  - They're like, we're not
• 1:54:57
  riding with them anymore.
• 1:54:58
  We're done.
• 1:54:59
  Which channel are they on?
• 1:55:00
  We're changing channels for Nicky.
• 1:55:02
  - All right, I thought
• 1:55:03
  this was really cool.
• 1:55:04
  We have finally had,
• 1:55:06
  and I'm trying to think,
• 1:55:07
  I don't think we've had an interview
• 1:55:09
  with an international
• 1:55:11
  jeeper or jeeping company before.
• 1:55:15
  We interviewed and coming
• 1:55:16
  out this week, this Friday,
• 1:55:19
  that we did an interview with Patrick of,
• 1:55:23
  I'm saying this wrong,
• 1:55:24
  don't beat me up, Patrick.
• 1:55:25
  Actually, Patrick, I'm not
• 1:55:26
  supposed to meet Patrick out
• 1:55:27
  at EJS this week.
• 1:55:29
  So, Beworian, it's a German company.
• 1:55:32
  They're actually located in Munich.
• 1:55:35
  And that's Beworian.com.
• 1:55:37
  Of course, you can see
• 1:55:38
  this in our show notes
• 1:55:39
  for episode 1006, B-A-W-A-R-R-I-O-N.com.
• 1:55:45
  And do you know those son of a bitches
• 1:55:49
  can do 39 inch tires and beadlocks
• 1:55:52
  on the road in Germany?
• 1:55:55
  - Nice.
• 1:55:55
  - Yes. - Wow.
• 1:55:56
  - Yes, and they had to
• 1:55:57
  jump through a lot of hoops
• 1:55:59
  to get there.
• 1:56:00
  But, I mean, you can't
• 1:56:02
  do this crap in Australia.
• 1:56:03
  You can't do this crap in New Zealand.
• 1:56:05
  But in Germany, where you would think
• 1:56:07
  it would be very strict
• 1:56:08
  about what you can and can't do.
• 1:56:11
  And it is, but I
• 1:56:11
  mean, they do have a path
• 1:56:12
  so that you can do these sort of things.
• 1:56:15
  They have to be tested.
• 1:56:16
  They don't have to, you
• 1:56:16
  don't have to have an engineer
• 1:56:18
  bless your individual vehicle
• 1:56:20
  when you put stuff on there like this.
• 1:56:22
  They also build a four
• 1:56:23
  and a half inch lift.
• 1:56:25
  And I mean, it's not like a two and a
• 1:56:26
  half or a three inch.
• 1:56:27
  They went with a four and a half
• 1:56:29
  and it's a complete system.
• 1:56:31
  Anyway, listen to the interview.
• 1:56:32
  I was very impressed.
• 1:56:33
  And again, I'm gonna get
• 1:56:35
  to meet Patrick at EJS.
• 1:56:37
  So we'll be talking a lot about EJS
• 1:56:39
  after that's all over and done with.
• 1:56:44
  All right, and our must
• 1:56:45
  have stuff for your Jeep.
• 1:56:47
  And this is almost like
• 1:56:48
  we're making a plan here
• 1:56:49
  on the show with the
• 1:56:50
  show notes and stuff,
• 1:56:52
  tying things together.
• 1:56:54
  So the layered technology,
• 1:56:57
  it is a 450 to 470
• 1:56:59
  megahertz unity antenna.
• 1:57:02
  It is black.
• 1:57:03
  It is just $22.
• 1:57:06
  And this is the Amazon recommended
• 1:57:09
  editor recommendation
• 1:57:09
  antenna for the 450 to 470.
• 1:57:13
  It is six inches long.
• 1:57:15
  Did you take notes?
• 1:57:16
  That's the right length for GMRS.
• 1:57:19
  Yeah, it's great for
• 1:57:20
  450 to 470 megahertz,
• 1:57:22
  which is perfect for GMS
• 1:57:23
  or 70 centimeter handband.
• 1:57:26
  So you could use it for either one.
• 1:57:29
  You'll need to purchase a NMO mount.
• 1:57:32
  And it's just the type of mount.
• 1:57:33
  They're really nice.
• 1:57:34
  I've been using NMO since
• 1:57:36
  gosh, the eighties I think.
• 1:57:39
  And they're really nice.
• 1:57:40
  And you may already have one.
• 1:57:42
  You may already have one on
• 1:57:43
  the antenna that you have.
• 1:57:44
  A lot of the ghost
• 1:57:45
  antennas are NMO mounts.
• 1:57:48
  So you just unscrew
• 1:57:49
  that one and screw this on.
• 1:57:50
  And it's really handy
• 1:57:52
  because if you want to
• 1:57:53
  get a little bit more range,
• 1:57:55
  you can just take off the ghost antenna
• 1:57:57
  and screw one of these things on.
• 1:57:58
  Just make sure that
• 1:57:59
  you get it tight enough
• 1:58:00
  so it doesn't rattle off.
• 1:58:02
  And of course you'll
• 1:58:03
  probably start having some receive
• 1:58:04
  and transmit issues before it falls off,
• 1:58:06
  but that's just a theory.
• 1:58:08
  So you will need to purchase, if you
• 1:58:09
  don't already have one,
• 1:58:10
  you will need to
• 1:58:11
  purchase an NMO mount and coax
• 1:58:14
  unless you already have an antenna mount.
• 1:58:16
  This will work better
• 1:58:17
  than a ghost antenna.
• 1:58:20
  So, and it's tiny.
• 1:58:22
  It's only six inches long.
• 1:58:24
  So, I mean, I don't
• 1:58:25
  see much of a difference
• 1:58:26
  when this and the ghost antenna.
• 1:58:27
  It's not like this
• 1:58:28
  thing's gonna whip around
• 1:58:29
  and get in the way and
• 1:58:30
  all the rest of that crap.
• 1:58:32
  So I was personally,
• 1:58:34
  I would just put one of these
• 1:58:35
  things like you guys, Wendy.
• 1:58:37
  If you have a ghost antenna on your Jeep,
• 1:58:39
  I would just put this
• 1:58:39
  thing on there instead.
• 1:58:40
  And if you don't have a GMR antenna yet,
• 1:58:43
  I would start with something like this.
• 1:58:45
  This one's a good one to start with,
• 1:58:46
  but you don't have to.
• 1:58:53
  All right, well, thanks
• 1:58:53
  for listening to this episode
• 1:58:54
  of the Jeep Talk Show.
• 1:58:55
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• 1:58:56
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• 1:59:00
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• 1:59:01
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• 1:59:03
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• 1:59:20
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• 1:59:23
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  - But it could be fun.
• 1:59:52
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• 1:59:54
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• 1:59:55
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• 1:59:56
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• 1:59:58
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• 1:59:59
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• 2:00:01
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