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A View From the Booth With Jim Szoke · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:22
  Speaker 1: I'll start with Haines King.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: Haines King has a little bit of the Rock Purty
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: early on in him, and I'm not saying he's going
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: to become that player. But Rock Purty started forty plus
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: games at Iowa State, was a really good athlete as
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: is Haines King just understood like how to just consistently
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: move the ball down the field and was very confident
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  Speaker 2: throwing the football whether in the pocket or on the move.
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: And so I'm not saying that he's going to become
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: this starting quarterback for an NFC Championship contending football team.
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  Speaker 2: But Haines King was a highly recruited player with Jimbo Fisher,
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  Speaker 2: Texas A and M for a reason, and then he
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: got Georgia Tech to become a very good football team.
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  Speaker 2: So I wouldn't be surprised if Haines King bills off
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: last night and just becomes a name over the next
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  Speaker 2: couple of years that people throw around trade whatever has
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: a chance to have a good career.
• 1:18
  Speaker 3: Dan Orlovsky on Friday, before we knew that Haines King
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: injured his hamstring and as Dave Canalis said, most likely
• 1:25
  Speaker 3: will not play this week. Orlovsky goes with the brock
• 1:29
  Speaker 3: purty cop.
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  Speaker 4: I was happy that dan Orlovsky did not go with
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  Speaker 4: a young dan Orlovsky comparison, because he reminds me of myself,
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  Speaker 4: like when I stepped out of the back of the
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  Speaker 4: end zone.
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  Speaker 3: That's what you don't want to hear from him. Very true,
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  Speaker 3: very true. He's already goten being traded.
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  Speaker 4: His whole career has already planned out, and he's a
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  Speaker 4: guy to go talking about trading. I was like, he
• 1:50
  Speaker 4: played three quarters of one preseason game.
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: I wish I could say bone that we didn't get
• 1:54
  Speaker 3: caught up in some of these conversations on Friday.
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  Speaker 4: I get the hype. Barber's like, why trade? How's he
• 1:59
  Speaker 4: got trades happening?
• 2:00
  Speaker 5: It's it was a little embarrassing. Now who didn't mention
• 2:02
  Speaker 5: it when the Hall of Fame speak ego now a sud.
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  Speaker 1: Second biggest star of the weekend was Haines King.
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  Speaker 3: It sucks.
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  Speaker 6: Hans King was in the crowd wearing a gold jacket.
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  Speaker 6: This it sucks.
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  Speaker 3: He got hurt man because I did want to see more,
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: you know, in all serious of.
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  Speaker 1: What he did. Still coming to long.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see how long this injury is
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  Speaker 3: going to be I was like, we knew he could
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  Speaker 3: run around and make plays, right, That's how he became
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  Speaker 3: ACC Player of the Year last year at Georgia Tech.
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  Speaker 6: But just sitting in the pocket, he made.
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  Speaker 3: A few throws where it's like, you know, I bet
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of scouts out there like all right,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he wasn't drafted for a reason. It was
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  Speaker 3: because I don't think people thought he could sit in
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  Speaker 3: the pocket and make those big time NFL throws.
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  Speaker 6: He made a few of those.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know these are just you know, college stats
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  Speaker 4: as opposed to like what you're saying, which is a reality.
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  Speaker 4: I think people as a wine or more than a
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  Speaker 4: passer come out of college. However, as ACC Player of
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  Speaker 4: the Year, completed seven percent of his passes last year
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  Speaker 4: through for almost three thousand yards, So it wasn't as
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  Speaker 4: if he was like fifty percent and through for fifteen
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  Speaker 4: hundred yards. So I think it's it's all there, son
• 3:09
  Speaker 4: of a coach, and I think a lot of you
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  Speaker 4: guys watch the game, it's just the eyeball test of
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  Speaker 4: just the bootlegs and the things he was doing off
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  Speaker 4: of that, and you could clearly see he wasn't just
• 3:19
  Speaker 4: taking first routes. He was going through progressions and work
• 3:23
  Speaker 4: in the offense. So and I was glad to the
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  Speaker 4: coach Insick let him kind of open it up and
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  Speaker 4: run the whole playbook there. And then when the chips
• 3:29
  Speaker 4: were down, it's that last drive. He's got to run
• 3:31
  Speaker 4: a couple of times, the twenty eight yarder and obviously
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  Speaker 4: the five yard touchdown run. So I think there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot to like, and there's a lot of potential. But
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  Speaker 4: again it was one game, one showing, but they had
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  Speaker 4: to have liked what they saw in spring practice and
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  Speaker 4: in this training camp to give him that body of
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  Speaker 4: work in this game.
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  Speaker 5: He's also old. He enters the league older than Brice
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  Speaker 5: like he's twenty five. He's twenty six in January. So
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  Speaker 5: he's a guy that's seen a lot in his football life.
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  Speaker 5: When you watch him, we marvel at even in college,
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  Speaker 5: never really gets wrap. He never seems the moment, never
• 4:02
  Speaker 5: really seems like it's too big for him in his personality.
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  Speaker 4: No, he didn't have like le jittery feet and all
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  Speaker 4: those things you see a lot of times out there
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  Speaker 4: with a young quarterback. And again, first pro football game
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  Speaker 4: that he's playing preseason game. But I thought, again, just
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  Speaker 4: looked very smooth and in control, decisive in a lot
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  Speaker 4: of those throws, Like there were times when they were
• 4:19
  Speaker 4: running no huddle and sometimes when he had time he
• 4:22
  Speaker 4: was going through progressions, but also when he knew they
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  Speaker 4: had to get out of bounds, you know, just immediately
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  Speaker 4: like locking in and pre snap thinking I'm gonna throw
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  Speaker 4: to that outside receiver so you can catch the outroute
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  Speaker 4: and go out of bounds. I mean, just a lot
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  Speaker 4: of intuitive like stuff that comes from just playing at
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  Speaker 4: a high level for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: Very encouraging start. He's injured, so they brought Kyle trask
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  Speaker 3: In who Canalis and inzig No from their year with
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  Speaker 3: him in Tampa. As far as as far as the
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  Speaker 3: preseason game went, it was it was basically just depth guys.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the only guys that are starters
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  Speaker 3: on the depth chart that played were Trevin Wallace and
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  Speaker 3: Cam Jackson. I think we're like the only ones is there.
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  Speaker 6: Do you take.
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  Speaker 3: Anything away like about the depth in a good way maybe,
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  Speaker 3: or in a question mark way at all.
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  Speaker 4: I think if you look at the game in its entirety,
• 5:09
  Speaker 4: we could be sitting here doing Good Morning Arizona Cardinals
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  Speaker 4: football talk and saying how good their quarterbacks look against
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  Speaker 4: our defense. So I think you have, you know, you
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  Speaker 4: have to look at Carson Beck looked really smooth again
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  Speaker 4: rookie third round pick.
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  Speaker 6: They made him look like Monteset.
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  Speaker 4: Team out of nineteen, and then the Keton Slovas comes
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  Speaker 4: in out of BYUS second year player nine out of ten,
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  Speaker 4: so they complete twenty four out of twenty nine. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure defensively again, backups versus backups, they'd like to
• 5:32
  Speaker 4: have done better. But you mentioned Trevid Wallace, but also
• 5:35
  Speaker 4: Shaw Smith, Wade, Corey Thornton. I think you know at
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  Speaker 4: that nickel spot, there's some competitions that are going on
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  Speaker 4: within that defense. But again, these are evaluations, which is
• 5:45
  Speaker 4: nice to have that fourth preseason game in this case
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  Speaker 4: as your first one where you can kind of look
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  Speaker 4: at the depth and your roster and you keep seeing
• 5:53
  Speaker 4: every day almost they're making roster changes and moving around
• 5:56
  Speaker 4: different pieces and bringing in guys and letting go of guys,
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  Speaker 4: even now early in the training camp to really get
• 6:01
  Speaker 4: a sense of like who are going to be battling
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  Speaker 4: for these final spots on the fifty three man roster,
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  Speaker 4: But again, there's not a ton of like you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: show like a bunch of exotic blitzes and do different
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  Speaker 4: things like that that you would in the regular season.
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  Speaker 4: But offensively, I thought lots to like about it. And
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  Speaker 4: then defensively, if you're going to evaluate, you know, backups
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  Speaker 4: against backups, you'd like to not give up two eighty
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  Speaker 4: two passing, one hundred and forty three rushing in the game.
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  Speaker 5: Feels like Meschi and Jimmy Horn Jr. Might Be battling
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  Speaker 5: for that receiver spot just from what it appears to us.
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  Speaker 5: Do you have a lean on who they get it
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  Speaker 5: and how do you think they look the other night?
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know, both of them showed some good things.
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  Speaker 4: And that was the one miss Haynes King had was
• 6:38
  Speaker 4: could have been a touchdown past Jimmy Horynet that was
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  Speaker 4: not on Jay's behind him. But I think, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Mechi did some good things out there. Obviously, we've been
• 6:45
  Speaker 4: talking about jesseem Reid and I think a lot of
• 6:47
  Speaker 4: folks feel like he's ahead of those guys as far
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  Speaker 4: as having a roster opportunity here. And I think with
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  Speaker 4: the offense they run and the fact like Reid obviously
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  Speaker 4: had the like longer kick return as well.
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  Speaker 1: If you could do.
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  Speaker 4: Special teams, we could see minimum seven receivers on the
• 7:01
  Speaker 4: active roster. Of course, game day h probably check off
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  Speaker 4: one or two of those guys, But Mechi, I thought
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  Speaker 4: it looked really smooth and he brings more veteran aspect
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  Speaker 4: to it. Jimmy Horn did have that one one catchers
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  Speaker 4: have elusive and they made a couple defenders miss and
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  Speaker 4: got a couple more yards out on that.
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  Speaker 1: So these are all guys.
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  Speaker 4: That are like kind of like think even with that
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  Speaker 4: injury you're talking about to Brasle, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: competition I think, more so at that position than any
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  Speaker 4: other position offense or defense.
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  Speaker 1: On the roster is that depth and wide receiver.
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  Speaker 3: No doubt and all You're right, all those depth guys
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  Speaker 3: made a good showing.
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  Speaker 4: Like and David Moore, who's also just been around the
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  Speaker 4: link for a long time. It just always does exactly
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  Speaker 4: what you need and can do special teams. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 4: David Moore, that's right, the professor.
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  Speaker 3: I have come around on David Moore where I used
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  Speaker 3: to in the past be like, Okay, surely there's someone
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  Speaker 3: with more upside where where who can replace him on
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  Speaker 3: the roster. Now it just seems like you just except
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  Speaker 3: Dave Canalis wants a veteran like that, and it does
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  Speaker 3: make sense with the young guys they have not to
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  Speaker 3: mention what what did Canalis call him? Vitamin D one
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  Speaker 3: a day? You get one play a day from him,
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  Speaker 3: like he will make There will be big third and
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  Speaker 3: sevens where it's.
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  Speaker 4: David Moore moving the changs and you know, and there
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  Speaker 4: are others, but you can count on him to run
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  Speaker 4: the correct route to be where he's supposed to be
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  Speaker 4: to help block. Obviously, you know, bryceon Tremaine is a
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  Speaker 4: given that he'll be on the roster because of the
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  Speaker 4: combination of what he does as a receiver, and he
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  Speaker 4: can do special teams. And obviously of great value are
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  Speaker 4: guys like Bryson Tremaine and some others who can play
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  Speaker 4: all three of the receiver positions. That way, they could
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  Speaker 4: be multiple how they line up, not be predictable, be
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  Speaker 4: able to put t Mac in the slot at times
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  Speaker 4: and do different things. So I think they really valued
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  Speaker 4: those receivers that can play all three positions.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely Jim Zoki with us a little view from
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: the booth preseason edition here on the Mac and Bone Show.
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: What's going on over there?
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  Speaker 5: Bone, what do you think I was gonna ask zoe
• 8:56
  Speaker 5: Yety concerned about Derek Brown's knee right now?
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  Speaker 6: You know you don't let them.
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  Speaker 4: More sorne, but you rather hear soor knee in early
• 9:03
  Speaker 4: August than early September. So it doesn't sound like anyway.
• 9:06
  Speaker 4: He's been out at practice working with some of the
• 9:08
  Speaker 4: guys and the rehab to return part of the field
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  Speaker 4: out there, but not now.
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: But hopefully it's not a lingering thing.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously with your best defender out of about that whole
• 9:18
  Speaker 4: side of the football there, and we know how valuable
• 9:21
  Speaker 4: he is, so yeah, absolutely, I do not need to
• 9:23
  Speaker 4: put him out there anymore than you have to as
• 9:25
  Speaker 4: far as getting ready for the season goes. But not
• 9:27
  Speaker 4: at this moment, but hopefully something that resolves itself sooner
• 9:29
  Speaker 4: than later.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Brown had they had practice since Tuesday, sat out
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: last Tuesday with soreness, and then sat out yesterday. I
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: was kind of surprised, but we got four we got
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: four plus weeks till the opener.
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  Speaker 4: It's no longer it's like it kind of almost like
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  Speaker 4: the traditional training camp because it's the extra.
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: Game in the extra weekend.
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: It is a long training camp man so and then
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: Dlu sounds like he's getting closer, but I do think
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  Speaker 3: there's a level of precaution.
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as you should.
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  Speaker 4: I mean this is like, again, you want to get
• 9:55
  Speaker 4: through this training camp, get your reps in and obviously
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: coach kanalisaying yesterday ten to twenty reps coming up in
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: Buffalo on Saturday for the starters that'll be out there,
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: and I think that's really gonna be good for someone
• 10:06
  Speaker 4: like Monroe Freeling to get out there and take those
• 10:08
  Speaker 4: reps and really just you know, cement his confidence at
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: right tackle.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: And because as we've seen traditionally, we'll see what they do.
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  Speaker 4: But once you get to that final Houston preseason game,
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: they don't usually put the starters out there at all.
• 10:21
  Speaker 4: So I think it's Buffalo and Jacksonville and the joint practice.
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: That's the way they did it last year, is it
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: played in the first two for a couple series and
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: then didn't play in a third. The last thing I
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: want to ask you about is Louke Keikley. You called
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: every game of him as a player, but you know
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: you've gotten to know him. You've got to work with him,
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: you know, on the Panther Radio network. Bone and I
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: are just we love you. Hear his speech and he's
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: talking about everybody around the building and it's just he
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: just he was like one of the guys, and not
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: just in the locker room, right, but like he's one
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: of the he's just one of the guys and just
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: just a fellow co worker to everybody. The way he
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: is just on the level of everybody is so impressive
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  Speaker 3: to me.
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  Speaker 4: It is I like the fact that he didn't just
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: go like by the trainers, the equipment guys, but by name,
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: the pr staff, I mean just naming people by name,
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: and that is genuine. That's not for effect. And I've
• 11:10
  Speaker 4: seen him out. If you're in Charlotte, you may run
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: into him at you know, a home improvement store, a restaurant,
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: and we've run into each other out just doing things
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: And he's as.
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: Genuine like that all the time. When he was a player,
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: he'd walk through the lobby and he'd stop and talk
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: to us and go.
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  Speaker 1: What are you guys doing tonight? Where are you going
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: for dinner?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, And he's like really actually interested and then
• 11:28
  Speaker 4: it'll ask you like the next day, how was it?
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  Speaker 1: And it's just like that is lout Keekley.
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: And you've watched all these specials and seen all these
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: different local groups doing like Channel nine doing a great
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: job with these specials, and part of it is that
• 11:40
  Speaker 4: they all have the same thing. He is down to earth,
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: he is humble, he is grounded. He just happens to
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: be a Hall of Fame football player, but he would
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: feels doing something else. And he's got these two brothers
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: that are in different fields of work. He's just like
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: them as far as you know, whatever career path he
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: would have taken if it wasn't football, for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 4: he is just that same human being. And it's not
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: for a fact, it's not overstated. I mean he is
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: just that guy all the time.
• 12:03
  Speaker 5: So it's like when after he retired, remember he popped
• 12:06
  Speaker 5: up in the bushets in Spartanburg, Remember those days.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just standing over there. Hasn't he been in
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: the stands before, just among the fans, like regular Joe fans.
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  Speaker 6: Somebuddy head to ask him to go to a game
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  Speaker 6: he watched.
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: Like whereas most stars, Hey let me get in the
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  Speaker 3: sweet you.
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: Know, I've seen kids asking for autographs and he goes,
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: I'll do that for you, but.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: First I want your autograph and all the kids signed.
• 12:27
  Speaker 6: It's like he's perfect. He's the guy you want to marry.
• 12:31
  Speaker 5: Honestly, if you know someone out there that yeah, that's
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: not your daughter or your mother something like that, it's
• 12:41
  Speaker 5: totally want him in your family, your mother to marry him.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: You're out.
• 12:49
  Speaker 6: Somebody married.
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: Just so just breaking up marriages here on the Magic
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  Speaker 3: Thank you you go, Jim Zok if you from the
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  Speaker 3: booth here, uh from the Panther Radio Network, think I.
• 13:02
  Speaker 6: Just proposal Luki. Wait for an answer. He might say yes.
• 13:07
  Speaker 6: Then oh man as well, I got nothing else going
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  Speaker 6: on