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Leclerc's Hometown Win - Fast Laps with the Boys - F1 - 2024 - Monaco GP Recap & Canada Preview · Banter with the Boys

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  Yo welcome back to Banner with the Boys, Fast Lapse, Monaco Recap, Kanada Preview, uh, let's
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  just get right into it.
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  Joe right next to me, co-host.
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  Joe what's going on?
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  How's it going?
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  How's it going?
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  Happy to be here.
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  Happy to talk about Kanada.
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  You don't sound super happy to be here, good lord.
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  I know it was a boring race, but look, look.
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  Cole, how's your week been buddy?
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  Good.
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  I mean the Tuesday curse is back.
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  The Tuesday curse is back.
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  True.
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  Rain.
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  Right, rain to give.
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  We get one freebie?
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  Yeah, that's all we get every Tuesday.
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  I just decided now I'm wearing rain jackets.
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  Oh there you go.
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  Gotta be prepared.
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  And of course next to Cole obviously we got Tyler.
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  Tyler what's poppin'?
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  Not much man, not much.
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  Just excited for an actual race here upcoming.
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  Yeah, for sure, for sure.
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  He says actual race because we had an event this past weekend.
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  The Monaco Grand Prix race, not much to talk about actually to be honest with you.
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  I don't think we'll spend a ton of time on the recap this week, but obviously plenty
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  that we do have to mention.
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  The number one thing obviously being Leclerc.
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  Getting his home win.
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  I mean how cool is that?
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  Like I'm not a fan of a team or anything specific, but I mean still.
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  I don't hate Ferrari, but that was pretty neat.
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  Yeah that was sweet.
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  It was sweet just watching him finally actually convert a pole at Monaco.
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  His heart didn't let him down.
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  The weather didn't let him down.
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  He had that race won before it started.
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  The Monaco time trials that is, because that's all it was.
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  It was just time trials.
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  It was the most boring race I've ever actually watched.
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  At least last year we had what Joe, 22 overtakes I think it was.
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  Was it 22 overtakes?
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  I just know it was a lot of rain.
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  Just a lot of weird stuff happening.
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  Because of the weather.
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  It was such a boring race.
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  I mean all the drivers even came out and said it's such a boring race.
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  They were just complaining left and right.
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  Well that's just it right?
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  It's so boring.
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  Does it stay on the schedule?
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  I mean it's Monaco.
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  It's one of the inaugural races.
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  It's the only one left from the inaugural six.
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  And we'll get into it in news because I don't want to just ask you guys what can they change.
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  So we'll get into that to make it more interesting whatever it may be.
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  But yeah, obviously Charles with the podium, or with the win actually, obviously.
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  Ferrari with the podium sweep I guess you could say.
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  Carlos coming in in third.
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  And I think we talked about too, I think we all kind of predicted Charles taking the pole
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  this race.
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  Oh yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It did happen.
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  It did happen in the race and I don't know if this was like super far after or right
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  after, but Charles riding home.
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  He was hometown on a bicycle.
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  Was he really?
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  I did not see that.
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  It was a video of somebody recording him.
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  I'd imagine you'd be like surrounded, like people following him and stuff, but it's his
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  home.
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  It's a small city.
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  Yeah, it's a city.
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  It's a small country.
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  But you could tell the pride they took in that.
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  You know the citizens, the pride they took in it.
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  And what is it?
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  The president?
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  The Prince Albert.
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  The Prince of...
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  Yeah dude, that dude was amped.
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  Seeing him part of the champagne and stuff.
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  Yeah, the podium ceremony, the best part of the race in my opinion.
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  We were talking about it, just seeing the emotion from Charles, seeing everyone so excited.
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  Yeah, it was really nice to break that curse and get him his win in his hometown.
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  Even the marshals.
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  The marshals were getting emotional after the win after he won because the marshals
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  are all local guys so they just get hired for the weekend or whatever it is.
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  They were getting emotional, hugging each other.
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  They were in tears.
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  It was just cool to see.
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  They were taking pictures.
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  It was just a good time.
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  And I mean even with what, two laps to go I think Charles said at the end.
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  He was like, he said quote, with two laps to go I was like F Charles, calm down.
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  Like, you know, you can handle this pretty much.
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  He knew how big it meant to him.
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  And then obviously the interview after the race about his dad and just how he gave up
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  everything for him to have this opportunity.
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  I mean I just can't even imagine how he honestly feels about even today, you know.
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  Just winning the race where we see Bugatti Verons on yachts.
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  Did anybody else catch that?
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  Oh yeah.
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  Oh good.
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  What a flex.
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  Whoa!
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  But typical Monaco.
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  I mean this is something to be said about Carlos finishing third too.
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  I mean that's a great showing from Carlos as well.
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  Just trying to figure out where he's going next year.
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  Just keep showing up.
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  That's all you can do really.
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  Let's talk about Carlos really quick.
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  That puncture on lap one.
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  There's a lot of fans out there that are a little irritated with where he was able to
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  get back to on the grid.
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  Now was it because they didn't actually complete a lap?
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  No, so what the ruling is, so I looked into it a little bit.
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  What the ruling is, is every car that is capable has to actually pass you.
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  For you to.
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  Yeah, so well it's from when like the red flag is established.
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  Right?
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  So every car has to pass you where you're at for you not to get your place back.
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  And there's a lot of speculation on if every car did pass him.
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  There's like camera angles that'll come out, picture, photo shots of it.
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  Not including the cars involved in the red flag.
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  Correct.
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  Any car that can continue.
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  Right?
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  So the three cars that were involved obviously they're excluded from that.
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  But it's, I don't know, it was like even, it was Jensen Button after the race, like
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  when he was interviewing him, was just like you're lucky that you got to start back in
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  P3.
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  That is a wild thing to say too, by the way.
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  But it's accurate.
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  But it's not wrong.
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  It's like there's a good amount of speculation on that of like is he, was it right for him
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  to start back P3 when every car had lapped him?
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  Not lapped him, passed him.
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  Yeah, it's really interesting.
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  I feel like we've seen this happen before where a red flag has come out in the first
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  lap and the restart goes back to what the starting grid was.
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  But the other times I've seen it happen, it's because we haven't passed that first sector
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  yet.
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  So there's like no like timing to any of the cars really for them to be in another position.
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  So it's interesting.
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  I like hearing, I'm happy that you looked it up.
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  It's interesting hearing that.
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  Yeah, I don't, I feel like every car had to have passed him.
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  I mean, he was in the runoff area.
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  So I don't know when the red flag came out.
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  The red flag came out late I feel like.
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  And that's why I guess there's some.
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  And now it wasn't quite through all that garbage yet.
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  The red flag came out when Leclerc was getting to that like big chicane part, right?
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  Yeah, so I think that's where like the I guess there was some confusion on my part is like
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  is it when the red flag like waves when they declared a red flag is like when the yellow
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  goes because I mean there wasn't really a yellow it was like all right this is obviously
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  going to be a red.
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  So I don't really know there's some there's so much gray area with it because at the end
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  of the day it's it's an eye that has to catch it.
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  Right.
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  It's like yeah they can use computers and all that jazz but it's a judgment call by
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  the FIA at the end of the day.
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  Yeah, for sure.
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  I mean yeah I mean that's I mean that's all you can really say about it right.
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  I mean they can't go back and change the results right at this point.
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  That's too late right.
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  No.
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  Yeah.
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  How often would that have happened?
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  And we'll jump into it later around where the points line up but that means a huge point
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  swing for Ferrari for him to get third.
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  100%.
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  It would have been a huge point swing for you know McLaren.
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  I guess you could say Mercedes that doesn't really matter but Verstappen too.
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  I mean six versus fifth.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean.
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  Yeah.
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  Not because he got third now.
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  And then Ferrari as a team as a whole you know.
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  It's what third is 15 points?
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  18.
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  Isn't second eight.
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  No third is 15.
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  Yeah yeah yeah.
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  Yeah so I mean that's 15 points for Ferrari as a team for Carlos in his standings like
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  that's huge because I mean if he goes to the back of the pack he's obviously not getting
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  top 10.
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  You're just not passing anybody.
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  No most likely not.
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  Not even sniffing.
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  Yeah.
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  So no big big deal on the points again like Cole said we'll touch on that in a minute.
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  Let's just move right into McLaren if anybody unless anybody has any parting thoughts on
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  Ferrari but I mean I think we pretty much covered it.
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  I think the biggest thing is like we can't take it away from Charles right.
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  It was a boring race.
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  Yeah but at the end of the day he won that race by qualifying.
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  He did what he had to do to win the race.
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  So it's like all props to Charles man.
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  It was really cool to see.
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  And by decent margin two tenths I think he got it.
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  So in qualifying.
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  In qualifying yeah.
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  He deserved it.
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  His Q3 qualifying lap was just silly.
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  It was great.
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  Yeah.
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  No winning Monaco is still a big deal.
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  It's still a race you'd want to win especially being your home track.
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  They say everyone wants to win Monaco.
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  So yeah no the fact that we're saying it's a boring race absolutely should not take away
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  from what was done.
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  And I mean we talked about if Verstappen took we thought that he was pole.
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  We thought Verstappen second.
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  Maybe that's the only way that passed.
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  But I mean still he did everything he earned.
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  He did everything he did you know.
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  He put in.
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  100% he earned it.
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  He raced a clean lap or a clean race.
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  100% he earned it.
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  And we're iffy on if Carlos earned third or not but another guy that we know earned his
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  spot is Oscar dude at second.
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  What a weekend.
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  What a race.
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  What a weekend for Oscar dude.
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  That dude is becoming more and more consistent week by week finishing in front of Landau
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  this week obviously qualifying for him too.
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  But I mean what a drive from Oscar dude.
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  And it's starting to like I said it's starting to happen every week.
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  I think we got good things coming from him this next weekend too.
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  It's kind of crazy too is with LeClaire the gap he had to pay Astri and how close and
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  X3 were.
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  Yeah for sure.
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  No LeClaire ran away with it at the end but.
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  Any other track Astri doesn't sit there though.
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  Obviously it's Monaco you know.
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  I don't know what the way that McLaren is right now.
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  How close the race was though.
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  I get you.
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  With Sians.
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  But you also but like the Monaco is not designed like that's not McLaren's track.
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  I get that.
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  I get that.
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  I don't know I just.
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  I feel like last it's hard to tell because last year only half the year they were really
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  good and it was Oscar's rookie year so he was still you know in that rookie stage granted
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  amazing rookie year.
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  But I think this year we're really seeing like him comfortable in a car going the pace
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  he has.
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  Obviously he was better at this track than Landau was.
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  I don't think there's any argument against that.
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  I'm really excited to see him just in other tracks to see like where else he excels.
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  I just think in general he's really good at Monaco and it just it just happens to be a
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  good track for him.
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  In practice he was getting he was one of the people that was getting so close to that wall
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  and in swimming pool I think they call it.
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  He's super comfortable.
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  I am when when I saw Landau I ever since Landau got into McLaren I've like and I've seen him
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  like his first season I've always said that's a future like champion like that's Landau.
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  I'm seeing the same kind of things out of Oscar right now.
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  Like his his rookie season was amazing.
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  His second season is going super well.
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  Like I just I see it out of him.
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  I think he's going to have more really good races and nothing to take away.
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  Obviously with second there he earned that as well.
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  Oh yeah.
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  Just like everybody else in the positions they all earned those positions right.
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  But I don't know.
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  Yeah I think I think he is stepping up.
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  He is obviously proving himself.
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  He's just not there yet.
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  He's not a consistent he's not a consistent top three yet but he's getting there.
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  He's getting there ever more so by the end of the year he could be.
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  Who is really consistent top three this year.
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  Well I think we're going to see one of the Ferrari's Max obviously.
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  He's had not yet.
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  He's got what seven races.
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  He's finished outside the top three and two of them.
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  I would still be pretty confident with him finishing in the top three.
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  But Oscar's been consistently top six top five.
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  I would say Norris is more obviously not you can't say they're consistently at top three
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  every week but like that's more somebody if you're going to put your money on you put
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  on Norris.
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  I'd say that then one of the Ferrari's like that's what you're looking at.
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  So he's not up there where he's consistently every week being able to compete for the top
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  three.
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  He's not there yet.
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  But he is obviously you just said this rookie season last year this season he's showing
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  a ton of improvement.
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  I think he could get there by the end of the year where he's fighting with Norris more.
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  He's fighting more for that top dog seat you know more competition there.
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  It's gonna be fun to see how that unfolds next couple years.
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  I think he's closer you think because even the race that Lando won Oscar started P2.
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  He did.
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  I think he finished he's like in terms of head to head quality this year with Lando
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  they're like neck and neck.
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  That's it right there.
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  I think so head to head quality and start of the race Oscars there.
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  I don't think he's proven himself later in the race and with tire management we saw it
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  in Miami he was starting to fall behind like and Lando was keeping his pace up.
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  I think so like the maturity I think he still needs to get.
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  But I think like he's super close to Lando right now.
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  I just don't think in the latter parts of the of the race he's there.
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  Like I said end of the season I think we see them competing a lot more.
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  Right now he's not there but he's throwing a ton of improvement.
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  Yeah a hundred percent.
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  Yeah ever since he's had a car underneath him he's been so good.
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  Top five top six driver on the track.
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  He's the Russell from McLaren.
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  A hundred percent.
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  And still finishing second I mean you still got to drive well enough in quality to even
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  get that opportunity and not to go back on what you said but when you said like if it
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  was another track you don't know if you would have been you know in second per se or whatever
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  been there.
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  But I mean at the same time everybody's managing tires and crap like that at Monaco.
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  I just think Monaco is it's an own its own anomaly.
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  You know what I mean.
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  You can't compare I get it.
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  Yeah yeah.
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  So I think you know looking forward I agree with you.
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  I think he's gonna battle Lando but I think he's gonna battle the Ferraris too.
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  I think he's gonna be right there in the conversation for podiums.
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  A hundred percent.
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  I think he's consistent at top five right now.
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  Oh yeah.
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  That I agree with.
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  I don't think he's battling every week for podiums.
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  But I think you know I think both both McLarens have an opportunity to continue to beat out
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  Checo.
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  I don't know what's going on obviously this weekend was a little different.
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  Not necessarily his fault.
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  Is it?
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  No qualifying it was his fault.
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  Qualifying was his fault.
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  Qualifying was his fault.
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  The race situation was not his fault but being starting where he was was completely his own.
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  Right nothing happened.
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  He didn't nothing happened to him in qualifying.
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  He just didn't qualify well right.
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  He had not got a Q1.
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  Yeah.
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  He had a really bad quality.
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  Let's go right into Red Bull.
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  Obviously Max finishing what he finished P6 I think it was.
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  But let's talk about Checo.
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  Why is he struggling so much dude?
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  I mean this is a track where like Tyler alluded to earlier it's literally a time trial man.
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  And if you know he's still a skilled driver.
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  But he just couldn't get it done.
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  I don't think that Red Bull is where it was.
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  Well a hundred percent.
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  I mean we saw that.
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  To be honest with you I think.
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  If Max is finishing second then we know the car is not quite there.
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  I think the biggest thing is Mr. Newey not giving him all their time anymore.
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  Ever since he departed that car has gone down the road.
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  I wouldn't have expected such a quick decline.
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  Do you think it's just a morality thing?
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  He was still in the red bull gear.
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  So it's just a morality thing maybe.
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  I don't know but if he's not both feet in.
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  I think Newey is the driving force behind Red Bull's success and I think that's playing
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  out in front of our eyes right now with him not full dedication to Red Bull.
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  So two follow ups to that.
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  Do you think this affects Verstappen maybe leaving to another team?
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  And two do you not see Red Bull taking the constructors this year?
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  And I guess we can get into that in the standings.
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  I'll say the second one we'll get into later.
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  I don't think Max has a choice but to be in a Red Bull this year because there's no better
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  spot.
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  Like where's he going to go?
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  Mercedes?
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  At least for next season.
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  Yeah.
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  You know for next year I think if he's going to make a change it's 2026 with the new regs.
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  Newey was staring down that McLaren card hard.
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  And he was talking to Zach.
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  The red flag.
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  They showed him or whatever and he's just mean mugging the McLaren.
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  Dude he's just studying that card so hard right now.
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  Before the race there was conversations with him and Zach.
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  Really?
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  They were walking around the course together, chatting.
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  There's a ton of photos of that.
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  You McLaren fanboys would be jumping off the house.
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  You know what's crazy?
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  This is going to sound crazy and you guys can call me crazy for saying it.
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  I almost feel like I'm going to like McLaren less if Newey goes there.
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  Just because I always have a thing for underdogs.
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  If McLaren's jump to the top and they get to the pace Max is at, I don't know man.
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  It'll make me want to root for other people.
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  This is also like the point of an underdog story.
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  The point of an underdog story is to get somebody to build a team.
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  It's like if you watch any sports movie.
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  But McLaren's already kind of there.
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  They're building their team.
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  But every team, no matter what facet it is, no matter what sport it is, it's about okay
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  a coach steps in.
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  Somebody steps in to change the tide from a team that's growing to a team that's great.
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  You're adding, do you watch NFL at all?
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  No.
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  Do you know who Tom Brady is?
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  Yeah.
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  You're adding Tom Brady to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and leading them to a Super Bowl home slice?
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  Sure.
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  That's a very good analogy.
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  I just want it to come from Lando and us.
• 17:00
  Obviously it's not all the drivers, it's the team behind it.
• 17:06
  I don't think I'm going to be that upset.
• 17:07
  Let's just get that straight.
• 17:08
  If they wanted constructors you would be happy.
• 17:11
  I'm just going to have in the back of my mind, it's like they wouldn't be here without Nui.
• 17:14
  And that sucks.
• 17:15
  Yeah, but you got to think of it this way though too Joe.
• 17:18
  But would you rather see this, him go to Ferrari and Ferrari wins the next six World Championships
• 17:22
  and McLaren doesn't have a chance?
• 17:23
  No, I would hate that too.
• 17:24
  You know what I'm saying?
• 17:25
  So whatever he goes he's going to give him the extra edge.
• 17:28
  So if you had to pick, you'd rather him go to Nui than McLaren.
• 17:30
  I'd rather go to McLaren.
• 17:31
  Yeah, I think at the end of the day I want him to go to McLaren.
• 17:33
  I just know I have that in the back of my head.
• 17:36
  I just hope I don't start resenting McLaren.
• 17:37
  It would be super dope to see Lando or even Oscar get one or two more wins this year.
• 17:42
  Just so they can kind of show like, hey we don't necessarily, I don't think McLaren
• 17:46
  has a chance of winning the constructors or one of them winning the WDC.
• 17:49
  I just think Ferrari and Red Bull are just still right there.
• 17:52
  It's going to be too much of a battle.
• 17:54
  And so it would be interesting to see if Nui went there man.
• 17:57
  It would be crazy.
• 17:59
  The orange Red Bull.
• 18:00
  The orange Red Bull.
• 18:02
  Let's talk about Red Bull real quick.
• 18:04
  Not a ton to say.
• 18:05
  I feel like we don't talk about Red Bull that much because either they're winning or they're
• 18:09
  underperforming for what they are.
• 18:11
  But has anybody, I know it's only Tuesday and the race was literally two days ago, but
• 18:16
  has anybody heard about any upgrades coming for Red Bull at all?
• 18:21
  Not this next race, not this next weekend, but the weekend after I think they have some
• 18:24
  upgrades coming.
• 18:25
  Spain, they got upgrades coming.
• 18:26
  So yeah, we'll talk about this when we get into Canada, but I think we might have another
• 18:30
  interesting Canada race.
• 18:31
  I'm hoping.
• 18:32
  Oh?
• 18:33
  I'm hoping.
• 18:34
  I'm hoping then.
• 18:35
  Yeah, no.
• 18:36
  And I'll mention that other two Canada.
• 18:37
  No, I feel you.
• 18:38
  All right.
• 18:39
  Anyway, Haas.
• 18:40
  We'll just mention them really quick because they're kind of in the same boat as Red Bull
• 18:44
  at least for this race.
• 18:45
  This is K-Meg.
• 18:47
  Did he really need to do that?
• 18:49
  Push it?
• 18:50
  At the same time.
• 18:51
  Now let me really do this.
• 18:53
  When I first watched, I was like, what an idiot, dude.
• 18:55
  For sure.
• 18:56
  100%.
• 18:57
  But at the same time, there's no passing opportunities at Monaco.
• 19:01
  So you had what you think is an opportunity anyway to pass a Red Bull at Monaco and he
• 19:06
  decided to take it.
• 19:07
  Obviously it didn't work out.
• 19:08
  But you know, if you see the onboard camera of Sergio, he definitely looks in his mirror
• 19:13
  right before K-Meg tries to shoot the gap that's not existing because the cars are too
• 19:18
  wide for Monaco and blah, blah, blah.
• 19:20
  But was that worth it?
• 19:22
  Like if he gets past him, is it worth it then?
• 19:25
  Never in 100 years are you going to complete that pass.
• 19:28
  You're just not.
• 19:29
  You're not going to complete that pass at Monaco because then they're going into like
• 19:33
  you, you, you, there's not enough room to complete the overtake on the outside before
• 19:36
  you have to take that inside corner and you're not, you're just not going to get around him.
• 19:40
  You're not, you can't run too wide at Monaco.
• 19:42
  And no penalties for that?
• 19:43
  I think a driver that's already borderline facing suspension and you're not going to
• 19:48
  get him, give him, I mean that, that seems like an easy decision for me.
• 19:51
  I think the problem is that there was a gap.
• 19:55
  He's trying to go jet skiing with Checo.
• 19:57
  Yeah, he is and you got to go for the gaps, right?
• 20:00
  It closed incredibly quickly and it ruined three cars races.
• 20:04
  I think because it ruined Nico's race that maybe it's, maybe something should have probably
• 20:10
  happened.
• 20:11
  But like it, I, Checo also could have given him more space.
• 20:14
  He could have.
• 20:15
  I see, I saw after the race, people starting to actually side with K-Mag.
• 20:19
  I'm not, I just saw it.
• 20:20
  Jeremy Clarkson did.
• 20:21
  Yes.
• 20:22
  I'm, yeah, I wasn't going to name names.
• 20:23
  Yes, exactly.
• 20:24
  He, he started siding.
• 20:26
  I saw a few other F1 reporters were siding as well.
• 20:30
  I'm happy with it being a racing incident.
• 20:31
  I think it sucks that Hulkenberg got involved as well.
• 20:35
  As he said, quote, damn it.
• 20:36
  If a penalty was to be given out, are we in a grant that's probably K-Mag that would get
• 20:41
  it?
• 20:42
  Yeah.
• 20:43
  If you have to give a penalty, I think it has to be K-Mag, but I like how, I like no
• 20:45
  penalty.
• 20:46
  Yeah.
• 20:47
  Let him race.
• 20:48
  Ruben's racing.
• 20:49
  I think Sergio did give him kind of a light block there, but like at the same time, I
• 20:51
  just don't think that gap was there.
• 20:52
  Ruben's racing.
• 20:53
  Let him race.
• 20:54
  That's something to light it up a little bit, huh?
• 20:56
  You should be watching NASCAR on Sundays of Ruben's racing, buddy.
• 20:58
  Not millions of dollars worth of damage.
• 21:01
  Red Bull can afford it.
• 21:02
  Yeah.
• 21:03
  They can afford sites.
• 21:04
  They were saying-
• 21:05
  They can afford to have Sergio wreck his whip.
• 21:08
  They were saying that crash hurt them.
• 21:12
  That's going to delay a few upgrades, I think, for him.
• 21:15
  I bet.
• 21:16
  Most teams budget about one to $2 million worth of damage for the year.
• 21:20
  That's what they budget for the-
• 21:21
  For the entire season?
• 21:23
  For the team, for their entire- that's both cars for the entire season.
• 21:26
  It's estimated that that was going to cost Red Bull $2.3 million alone.
• 21:28
  I was hostile in business.
• 21:31
  It's not what Williams had to do.
• 21:34
  Not only is it the financial implication, but now like Joe said, now you have to rebuild
• 21:38
  all those parts, so the parts you're going to- the time you're spending on upgrading
• 21:41
  what you currently have, now you're spending on rebuilding so you can get a car on the
• 21:45
  track.
• 21:46
  They have spare parts, obviously, but that's a whole- that's a spare car at this point
• 21:50
  with the condition that car was in.
• 21:52
  Rough.
• 21:53
  Rough, to say the least.
• 21:54
  I was curious what they'd do with all those parts.
• 21:56
  They were piling them up.
• 21:57
  I was like-
• 21:58
  They sent them to Africa for the kids that get the shirts that, you know?
• 22:02
  The Super Bowl shirts of the losers?
• 22:04
  Yeah, no, as Hulkenberg said, quote, damn it, that was unnecessary.
• 22:09
  I'll just go ahead and agree with him there.
• 22:12
  I don't think he needed to do it.
• 22:14
  Watching that live was crazy.
• 22:15
  Or, not watching the replay back, because K-Meg literally was driving him into the wall.
• 22:21
  That did not look like an F1 car after it was gone.
• 22:24
  No, dude.
• 22:25
  That was a hard hit, though.
• 22:26
  That was a hard hit.
• 22:27
  It was good to see Sergio get out of it.
• 22:29
  But before the race, I think you added this in there, Joe.
• 22:33
  Both Haas were de-cued from qualifying?
• 22:36
  Yeah, it was a really, really bad weekend for Haas.
• 22:40
  So at the end of qualifying, both cars were disqualified for a rear wing setup infringement.
• 22:47
  Wasn't DRS specifically had something to do with the DRS?
• 22:49
  Yeah, so it's how I think, don't quote me on this, but it's in the realm of this, there
• 22:55
  are a couple of adjustments you can make for how open the DRS wing can get.
• 23:02
  They had a new part for that on the wing that the mechanics were not trained on, and it
• 23:08
  was dialed too high up.
• 23:10
  So technicians came over, saw that, and were like, hey, you're like 0.2 centimeters off.
• 23:17
  So you're out of the session.
• 23:19
  I think they just eyeballed that sucker.
• 23:20
  Yeah, that's about 0.2 off.
• 23:22
  That ankle fly.
• 23:23
  Can you have any more of a Haas move?
• 23:26
  You get a new part where mechanics aren't trained on?
• 23:29
  That was an official statement.
• 23:31
  It was like an error in mechanic training.
• 23:33
  I was like, of course it was.
• 23:35
  And I said this last week too.
• 23:37
  I was like, Haas has been looking good.
• 23:39
  They haven't had any off track issues.
• 23:42
  Their pits have been great.
• 23:43
  I willed this into existence.
• 23:44
  That's on you, homie.
• 23:45
  It's on me.
• 23:46
  I'm sorry.
• 23:47
  I apologize.
• 23:48
  Oh, Lee.
• 23:49
  Yeah, that's enough about Haas.
• 23:51
  Hopefully they get a little bounce back.
• 23:54
  Alpine.
• 23:55
  Oh boy.
• 23:56
  Oh, oh boy.
• 23:58
  Same lap as the complete carnage that we saw around the couple corners before, but Okon.
• 24:05
  Why, man?
• 24:06
  Why?
• 24:07
  What are you doing?
• 24:09
  It may have just cost him his job.
• 24:11
  Nah, it's not costing him his job.
• 24:14
  Allegedly.
• 24:15
  You think even a race?
• 24:16
  Hmm?
• 24:17
  You think it's costing him a race?
• 24:18
  No.
• 24:19
  Oh, it's gonna, you don't think even one.
• 24:20
  I think it'll absolutely cost him a race, dude.
• 24:23
  Because it's time and time again.
• 24:24
  Now I'm not saying Gastly's a saint by any means.
• 24:26
  They battle each other hard.
• 24:28
  Which I can appreciate.
• 24:29
  There's two worse parents you can have.
• 24:30
  They've been rivals their entire, like, not F1 career since they grew up carting against
• 24:34
  each other.
• 24:35
  Why would you pair these cats up and expect them to be friendly?
• 24:37
  Yeah, no, I think that's a great point.
• 24:39
  I think that's a great point.
• 24:41
  Are they both from the same country too?
• 24:43
  Is Espan from there?
• 24:45
  Yeah, they're both French.
• 24:46
  Is Espan French too?
• 24:47
  Like, I think there's just a lot of pride there in each of them, personally.
• 24:52
  So of course they're gonna race each other hard.
• 24:54
  But I think that was just unnecessary, man.
• 24:56
  Ocon's always been an aggressive racer too.
• 24:58
  He is, that is his style.
• 25:00
  Gastly hasn't always been that aggressive.
• 25:02
  And that's why I think they're gonna sit him for a race.
• 25:04
  Like just, chill the heck out, man.
• 25:06
  No coffee for you.
• 25:07
  I think they sit him for one race.
• 25:09
  I agree.
• 25:10
  Why do you think they don't?
• 25:12
  Because he's scored points the week before.
• 25:14
  The race before.
• 25:15
  He has one of their two points on the year.
• 25:17
  You're gonna put some guy who's never raced an F1 in there and expect him to try to go
• 25:20
  get a point.
• 25:21
  Like they need all the points they can get.
• 25:23
  True, and Gastly's not like Gastly's blowing everybody out of the water right now either.
• 25:28
  Who's their reserve?
• 25:29
  Jack Doohan.
• 25:30
  And that's who's allegedly gonna take his seat, potentially for the one race.
• 25:34
  Maybe they wanna see if there's something in them?
• 25:36
  They should.
• 25:37
  Just like you said, there are two points.
• 25:40
  What does it hurt for one race to put in that guy?
• 25:42
  For one race?
• 25:43
  Why not?
• 25:44
  For one race though, if he doesn't get points and maybe Esteban gets it 9th or 10th, those
• 25:49
  few points could cost you 9th or 8th at the end of the year.
• 25:51
  How many races has Esteban got points in this year?
• 25:53
  One.
• 25:54
  So I just, that's a risk I'm willing to take at this point.
• 25:57
  Yeah, I agree.
• 25:58
  He can't stand on the fact that.
• 25:59
  I'll push for Gastly to get into points.
• 26:01
  If you think Esteban can get into points at Canada, I would think Gastly can as well.
• 26:05
  So I'd do everything you can to push him.
• 26:08
  I would agree.
• 26:09
  I would agree.
• 26:10
  But I would push Gastly to get in, you know, into points and just see what Doohan.
• 26:13
  Doohan.
• 26:14
  Doohan.
• 26:15
  Doohan.
• 26:16
  See what he's got.
• 26:17
  That's what that for one race.
• 26:18
  For one race.
• 26:19
  True.
• 26:20
  And there was a lot of talk.
• 26:23
  I think the best, one of the funniest parts of the race was hearing the Alpine boss, hearing
• 26:29
  the commentators say that he was already on French news saying like how disappointed he
• 26:34
  was in O'Connor for taking that.
• 26:35
  He's got to make a tough decision.
• 26:36
  Quote.
• 26:37
  Yeah.
• 26:38
  So I.
• 26:39
  And his contract's up.
• 26:40
  I think I'm with you in that I think that they're all talk.
• 26:42
  I don't think they're actually going to bench him because I mean, why would you bench your
• 26:46
  driver if he's like the best, if he's the best policy possibility for points and you're
• 26:51
  in the position that Alpine's in, you're going to want to use them.
• 26:54
  And you're putting them quite handsomely.
• 26:56
  You're going to, you're going to remember that.
• 26:58
  Like you're going to remember that he tried fighting on an awful corner in Monaco.
• 27:02
  He was in 11th place.
• 27:03
  If someone above 10th got like disqualified, that's two points.
• 27:08
  That that's three points for Alpine.
• 27:10
  They're going to remember that.
• 27:11
  And at that point in the race, that's what they're thinking.
• 27:13
  They're like, you just lost us a possibility for more points.
• 27:16
  We're going to remember that.
• 27:17
  Like you're, you're aggressive.
• 27:19
  You this is, this is like a repeat.
• 27:21
  He's consistently aggressive.
• 27:22
  I think there's also arguments that Ghastly has done similar things before and absolutely.
• 27:27
  But I think O'Conn is consistently like this and that's a problem.
• 27:31
  I think O'Conn's driving himself out of a seat in F1 next year.
• 27:34
  Well, and that's just it, right?
• 27:36
  The contracts up.
• 27:38
  I think you just see what, see what you have in Jack.
• 27:41
  Just, just see what you even have in an F1 car, in a race, at race pace, in a race scenario.
• 27:47
  Just, just see what you even have because you know, you said you think the best, you
• 27:52
  know, Alpine's best bet at getting points is leaving O'Conn in the car.
• 27:55
  I would agree with that.
• 27:57
  Now is it in Alpine's best interest to have O'Conn in the car next season?
• 28:01
  I have no idea.
• 28:02
  Yeah.
• 28:03
  I think that's what they're looking at even right now, this early in the season.
• 28:06
  It's who happens.
• 28:09
  You do not look like you agree and that's cool.
• 28:11
  I know.
• 28:12
  I mean, I don't think you can take a seat out of it.
• 28:13
  You can't take a guy out of a seat.
• 28:15
  We'll see in a week.
• 28:16
  I mean, it'd be one thing if like he was consistently finishing.
• 28:18
  I would imagine they'd make that decision soon.
• 28:20
  Like if this would happen to Zao, Zao Valtteri or Logan right now, I could wholeheartedly
• 28:26
  understand that because they have consistently finished P17 or worse.
• 28:29
  Sure.
• 28:30
  O'Conn has been consistently in 10th through 15th.
• 28:33
  Yeah.
• 28:34
  I just, I don't see how you could take them out of the seat right now because of, yeah,
• 28:39
  it's been.
• 28:40
  Sorry.
• 28:41
  Yeah, but so I get it.
• 28:42
  Yeah.
• 28:43
  You can't battle your teammate.
• 28:44
  I fully understand that.
• 28:46
  And especially in like those circumstances, because you're fighting for 10th place with
• 28:49
  your teammate.
• 28:50
  You can't sacrifice the point for the team, especially in Monaco.
• 28:53
  Right, right, right.
• 28:54
  But I just don't see how you can just take them out.
• 28:57
  And I get what you're saying, the consistency between 10 and 15, but I don't view that as
• 29:00
  a good thing either.
• 29:02
  Like you're consistently finishing 10th through 15th, at least you're not 15th to 20th, right?
• 29:06
  Since they got the card underway to actual specifications, he's been consistently finishing
• 29:11
  10th through 12th.
• 29:14
  We'll see.
• 29:16
  We'll see what Alpine does in.
• 29:17
  Time will tell.
• 29:18
  Time will tell.
• 29:19
  Man, I want to say Mercury for some reason.
• 29:24
  Mercedes, George with a pretty good drive, a pretty good weekend I would say as a whole.
• 29:29
  With that fastest lap, you might find himself on the periodic table as a new element, dude.
• 29:33
  Mercury.
• 29:34
  Hamilton got it.
• 29:35
  As I said.
• 29:36
  Oh, well I was talking about George.
• 29:38
  I got what you're saying.
• 29:39
  That was good.
• 29:40
  That was good.
• 29:41
  But it ruined it.
• 29:42
  Science.
• 29:43
  Science.
• 29:44
  What about it?
• 29:45
  Well, science.
• 29:46
  Mercury, Mercedes, George, Hamilton, great race.
• 29:50
  Fastest lap out of Hamilton.
• 29:51
  Love to see it.
• 29:52
  I'm super confused right now.
• 29:53
  I think I just had a stroke.
• 29:56
  Yeah, I mean there's not really anything much to say about Mercedes I don't think.
• 30:03
  Car sucks.
• 30:04
  Fifth and seventh.
• 30:05
  Hamilton with the fastest lap.
• 30:07
  What tires did he have on?
• 30:08
  Was it mediums?
• 30:09
  I don't think anyone.
• 30:10
  Did he go for another box and just put softs on to get fastest?
• 30:14
  Or no?
• 30:15
  No, I don't think he got softs on.
• 30:16
  I don't think he had that much of a gap.
• 30:17
  Yeah, okay.
• 30:18
  I don't think anyone in the top 10 put softs on at all during that race.
• 30:24
  Fair enough.
• 30:25
  V-Carbs.
• 30:26
  Yuki, as I have donned him, quote, the consistent Sonoda in points again.
• 30:33
  Again, just making that argument for a bigger seat.
• 30:38
  A bigger seat, dude.
• 30:39
  Do you think Red Bull would actually look at him over Chekhov?
• 30:42
  No.
• 30:43
  No, at this point I don't.
• 30:44
  I agree with Tyler on this beginning of the season maybe, but right now I agree with Tyler.
• 30:48
  A big thing too though with Yuki.
• 30:50
  I heard rumors of him with Haas.
• 30:54
  Why would you do that?
• 30:55
  And a couple other teams.
• 30:56
  I don't think I would do that.
• 30:57
  That would be silly.
• 30:58
  I don't think I would do that.
• 30:59
  Now, 2026, if there's something crazy coming, which I do not believe for Haas, but why would
• 31:05
  you want to just change a scenery?
• 31:07
  Assuming that you're not going to get the Red Bull seat now?
• 31:10
  Does Haas lead you to something else?
• 31:12
  I don't think he does it.
• 31:13
  Just rumors.
• 31:15
  It's not from my reliable news source.
• 31:16
  I could have thrown out rumors.
• 31:17
  I could only see him doing that if he for some reason can't keep his V-Carb seat, right?
• 31:24
  Which I think he has locked in right now.
• 31:25
  I would hope he has locked in.
• 31:27
  I don't know why they would put anybody else in that seat, especially versus what Danny
• 31:31
  Rick's doing right now.
• 31:32
  Yeah.
• 31:33
  You gotta go with Yuki.
• 31:34
  And honestly at this point I think they could even keep Danny Rick.
• 31:37
  I don't think they should, but I think they could at this point.
• 31:40
  He's getting better as well.
• 31:41
  He could find himself a spot.
• 31:43
  Somewhere else.
• 31:44
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:45
  But I think he's making enough of an argument for V-Carb to keep him one more season too
• 31:49
  as well.
• 31:50
  I don't know.
• 31:51
  I know they want to go younger though.
• 31:53
  That's the thing.
• 31:54
  That's kind of their model, right?
• 31:55
  Right, 100%.
• 31:56
  What I fully think is happening with Red Bull is they're gonna keep Yuki on another one
• 32:01
  year deal with V-Carb, see what happens after next year with Max.
• 32:05
  Because there might be two Red Bull speeds open at the end of next year.
• 32:08
  You gotta put Yuki in one of them at that point.
• 32:11
  If you lose Max you have to keep Yuki.
• 32:13
  I would agree with that.
• 32:14
  And then Chetko is fighting back for a two year deal.
• 32:17
  That's what he wants?
• 32:19
  Yeah.
• 32:20
  He counteracted a one year deal and said I want two years.
• 32:22
  Which is smart.
• 32:23
  Which is also kind of crazy and we all thought he was gonna retire maybe.
• 32:27
  That's what I mean.
• 32:28
  I don't think Red Bull would sign that.
• 32:29
  I don't think Sergio has ever come out and said he has no intention of wanting to race.
• 32:33
  I think that's all just media saying hey Red Bull, I think Chetko's time's up.
• 32:38
  It might be though.
• 32:41
  V-Carb's performing.
• 32:42
  I'm just super disappointed.
• 32:44
  I want Danny in a good car and I want him racing on the grid.
• 32:48
  Liam Lawson is the reserve driver still for Red Bull and for V-Carb.
• 32:55
  Gotta get him in a seat man.
• 32:56
  Especially with what he did last year.
• 32:57
  You gotta get him in a seat.
• 32:58
  And I'm like.
• 32:59
  And so I'm fighting.
• 33:00
  Yeah exactly.
• 33:01
  I'm fighting between Danny and Liam and I don't want to fight against Danny.
• 33:04
  But Liam needs to prove himself.
• 33:07
  Give him a year.
• 33:08
  Right?
• 33:09
  Throw Danny in the reserve spot maybe.
• 33:10
  I don't know.
• 33:11
  He's not performing.
• 33:13
  What if Liam can?
• 33:14
  I don't know.
• 33:15
  It's a tough situation.
• 33:16
  With how consistent Yuki's been, it's not the car.
• 33:19
  No it's really not.
• 33:21
  Yuki's been showing he's got the skill.
• 33:24
  But you also, like with Ricardo, how bad does he really want to race next year if it's not
• 33:29
  in a big seat?
• 33:30
  I think that's where it comes down to.
• 33:31
  I think this seat this year and the end of last year was because he was like I'm gonna
• 33:36
  be in a Red Bull.
• 33:37
  Yeah.
• 33:38
  That was his whole mindset.
• 33:39
  So how bad, if he came back and this year just built up that energy in him that he had
• 33:44
  back when he was on the Red Bulls or back on the Reynolds or whatever it may be or the
• 33:48
  McLaren, if that got rejuvenated, I think we see him in a car next year.
• 33:52
  I just don't know if it is.
• 33:53
  Does Red Bull go Danny, you can have that second seat and Checo's gone completely and Liam's
• 33:58
  in that second seat at VCarb.
• 34:00
  I think if Danny comes back next season it's in a bottom tier car.
• 34:05
  If he comes back next season it's in Sauber, Alpine, or Haas.
• 34:07
  Is that worth it for him to stay on the grid?
• 34:09
  Well that's what I'm saying.
• 34:11
  He has to have that drive come back.
• 34:12
  He has to be rejuvenated and really want to go out there and make something happen again
• 34:17
  in F1.
• 34:18
  Makes me want to go back and watch the early.
• 34:19
  I don't see it but that's the only way he's doing it.
• 34:21
  That's the only way he's doing it is if he rebuilt that energy and momentum to want to
• 34:24
  really do it.
• 34:25
  Makes me want to watch season one of Drive to Survive again just to see him in a Red
• 34:28
  Bull car.
• 34:29
  Isn't season one when he won Monica's?
• 34:32
  Jumped in and.
• 34:33
  Belly flop dive.
• 34:34
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:35
  Williams, Alpine.
• 34:36
  Alpine!
• 34:37
  Alpine hits points.
• 34:38
  Whoa, first points.
• 34:39
  Another skill.
• 34:40
  Long time coming.
• 34:43
  Being handicapped by a car I think.
• 34:46
  Oh definitely.
• 34:47
  I think he's still a dark horse, not for the Red Bull seat to be honest, but do they look
• 34:51
  at him for the V-Carb?
• 34:52
  I would love to see Alpine in that other Merc seat.
• 34:55
  Yeah, yeah.
• 34:56
  Alpine's stuck in Williams for two years.
• 34:57
  For at least two years.
• 34:58
  So he's there for a while.
• 35:00
  Well what if Merc came calling?
• 35:01
  He's out of that Williams deal instantly.
• 35:02
  I was just going to say if he's signed with Williams can Mercedes come in and pay off
• 35:10
  Williams?
• 35:11
  That contract doesn't mean anything.
• 35:12
  Yeah.
• 35:13
  Alright, I was just curious.
• 35:14
  So yeah, nothing really else to say about that.
• 35:18
  Good for Albon.
• 35:19
  Sargent is away.
• 35:22
  Anyway, Aston's outside of points.
• 35:26
  That's kind of weird.
• 35:28
  Fernando not hitting points.
• 35:30
  Terrible weekend for Fernando.
• 35:31
  Just terrible weekend.
• 35:32
  Aston as a whole.
• 35:33
  I mean, Stroll I think even had a better weekend than Fernando.
• 35:36
  Oh yeah, he did.
• 35:38
  Nah, Fernando finished 11th, Stroll finished 14th.
• 35:42
  I think we'll at least see Alonso back in points next week.
• 35:45
  Or I'm sorry, in a week and a half.
• 35:47
  Because we're doing this early.
• 35:50
  But just a bad weekend for Aston.
• 35:53
  I don't think there's really anything else to be said about them unless anybody else
• 35:56
  has anything.
• 35:57
  You know what would be terrible?
• 35:58
  So since we brought it up on last podcast after doing the sprints every weekend to try
• 36:02
  to gain it.
• 36:03
  What a terrible sprint race that would be in Monica.
• 36:06
  No doubt.
• 36:07
  How just terrible would that be?
• 36:09
  I don't think they'd ever do it.
• 36:10
  Well, they were proposing bringing a sprint race to every single race next year.
• 36:15
  They were in talks to gain viewership and gain whatever.
• 36:17
  To bring a sprint race to every race.
• 36:19
  Not super excited about that.
• 36:22
  I brought it up last episode.
• 36:23
  Did you?
• 36:24
  We haven't talked about it a lot, but one of the biggest reasons why Monica was so,
• 36:31
  obviously there's no point, no places to pass very well.
• 36:35
  But another reason is that they were all four seconds off the pace because they were all
• 36:40
  managing their tires so they didn't have to pit again.
• 36:43
  If we brought a sprint here, they wouldn't have to do that.
• 36:46
  They would just be pushing all out.
• 36:47
  So we'd see them at least trying to do something.
• 36:50
  I would hope.
• 36:51
  That just sounds dangerous money wise.
• 36:55
  You run into a Checo situation and now that car is going to cost you a lot of money for
• 36:59
  a sprint dude.
• 37:00
  Just wreck that.
• 37:01
  So I don't know how hard they would push.
• 37:03
  You would think they would more.
• 37:04
  You would hope so.
• 37:05
  That would be really crappy to have a sprint there.
• 37:08
  That's kind of the, I think that's the goal in general of the sprint and not making it
• 37:14
  so where you ended up on the sprint is where you started on the race.
• 37:16
  The goal of that entirely was for there to be more fighting in the sprint.
• 37:20
  And we're not really seeing that this year even on easier tracks.
• 37:23
  It's not as, there's been a couple I guess with like the Lewis finishing second and all
• 37:28
  that.
• 37:29
  And those three fighting between the two Ferraris and Checo.
• 37:32
  What race was that?
• 37:34
  Japan?
• 37:35
  I can't remember.
• 37:36
  10 minutes.
• 37:37
  But it was like, yeah.
• 37:38
  But I think that was the goal and we're seeing it somewhat but overall I don't think it's
• 37:43
  going to be that big of a jump because the reality is if you have a wreck like Checo
• 37:47
  did you're not racing the next day.
• 37:49
  Yeah.
• 37:50
  Right.
• 37:51
  True.
• 37:52
  100%.
• 37:53
  That's right.
• 37:54
  And I think that's going to be the thing that would hurt the racing.
• 37:55
  It's like you're going to try to take care of the car because you need to make the money
• 37:59
  on Sunday.
• 38:00
  For sure.
• 38:01
  It's almost a dumb move for them to switch that for the sprint and make it too qualifying.
• 38:08
  Like you know how it used to be with the sprint where you ended up putting something to the
• 38:11
  race.
• 38:12
  Oh it actually had like a.
• 38:13
  Yeah.
• 38:14
  It had an implication on that.
• 38:15
  Yeah.
• 38:16
  Which typically, I mean, at least at that rate a couple guys would gain a spot or two
• 38:18
  or a couple guys would climb up whatever it may be.
• 38:21
  Right now like you're saying it's just kind of okay let's maintain the car.
• 38:24
  Let's make sure the car is okay.
• 38:25
  There's still not that aggressive fighting that everybody's hoping for.
• 38:28
  The bottom few probably are fighting more than most.
• 38:32
  And they've gotten some points in the sprint.
• 38:34
  So again, like it's been good for them.
• 38:36
  But I just don't think it's worth having, especially at Monaco.
• 38:39
  Yeah.
• 38:40
  I didn't even think about like, the FIA would probably need to raise the cost caps a little
• 38:46
  bit and maybe get them more partner allocations if they're racing.
• 38:51
  I mean, if they're in a race, what is it?
• 38:54
  52 times a year?
• 38:57
  Like that's...You know what they'd almost have to do?
• 38:59
  Bring a spare car back.
• 39:00
  Well, they already have, yeah.
• 39:04
  Spare car entirely, not just like a spare chassis and the parts.
• 39:08
  The kicker with that too is like the reason that when I saw that article about a sprint
• 39:13
  in every race, the reason was to make it so there wasn't such a big gap and more teams
• 39:17
  are fighting for the higher end up at the top.
• 39:20
  But the kicker is if you increase the cost gap and people are going to be more aggressive,
• 39:25
  or it may be because they have the extra money to do it, it still just hurts the bottom teams,
• 39:29
  not the other teams.
• 39:30
  That's true.
• 39:31
  For sure.
• 39:32
  That's true.
• 39:33
  To wrap, Monaco, we did see...I know you said, Tyler, that Gastly may have overtook somebody
• 39:39
  maybe when he got hit by Ocon.
• 39:41
  It was right before.
• 39:42
  Yeah, it was right before.
• 39:44
  I watched the onboard and he had passed him and then Ocon came and just, wah!
• 39:48
  The only clean overtake I saw was Boatoss.
• 39:51
  So good for you, Valtteri.
• 39:53
  But yeah, lap one, that's not even overtaking.
• 39:56
  Does that count?
• 39:57
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 39:58
  You don't have to start.
• 39:59
  It's not really like...especially in Monaco.
• 40:00
  So is that your new sound effect?
• 40:02
  What's going on there?
• 40:03
  Let's head to the news, Kev.
• 40:04
  Let's head to the news.
• 40:05
  Kev, let's head to the news.
• 45:05
  And back right into the news, of course.
• 45:22
  Let's just start off right away with Monaco.
• 45:25
  What would you change?
• 45:26
  Like, if you individually could change something about Monaco, whatever it may be, if they
• 45:31
  got to tear down half a block, don't do it, but if they do whatever, what would you change
• 45:36
  to the race to make it more interesting and less boring as half the grid has alluded to?
• 45:42
  I got two things.
• 45:44
  The first one I'm not a huge fan of, mandatory three to four pit stops.
• 45:49
  Make mandatory pit stops.
• 45:50
  You have to pit this many times during the race.
• 45:53
  And then my other thing is get rid of that chicane at the end of the tunnel.
• 45:56
  Just make that straight.
• 45:57
  Bring in another DRS zone going into that corner and then boom, you have two hours of
• 46:01
  opportunity for overtaking.
• 46:03
  And that chicane, you lose so much time to the driver in front of you in that chicane
• 46:07
  alone because you can't be aggressive with the guy in front of you.
• 46:10
  100%.
• 46:11
  No, I like the chicane thing for sure.
• 46:12
  I actually like both ideas, but that was the only thing I was thinking to the chicane.
• 46:16
  Are we all in the same freaking page?
• 46:19
  Your first point was going to be my first point.
• 46:21
  More mandatory pit stops.
• 46:24
  My honor where my honorary point was going to be getting rid of the chicane.
• 46:28
  My second point that I was going to bring up was, and I don't feel strongly about this,
• 46:34
  but we only get Monaco every five years.
• 46:39
  Keep it historic.
• 46:40
  Keep it the same.
• 46:41
  Interesting.
• 46:42
  Do you still get points for the race or is it a non-points race at that point?
• 46:45
  Oh, of course.
• 46:46
  Of course.
• 46:47
  I think, all right.
• 46:48
  So the schedule is just one day's long every five?
• 46:50
  I don't think that's ever going to happen because Monaco rakes in so much money and
• 46:53
  it's so historic for it.
• 46:55
  They're the only, I was looking this up last night.
• 46:58
  They're the only track that actually profits from having, or the only track that gets paid
• 47:03
  to have it there.
• 47:04
  Oh, wow.
• 47:05
  Oh, sure.
• 47:06
  Every other track pays to have it there.
• 47:07
  They're the only track that gets paid to have it because of how historic it is.
• 47:11
  I didn't know that.
• 47:12
  Yeah.
• 47:13
  Country's crazy.
• 47:14
  So I don't think it's ever going to happen.
• 47:15
  I got a solution for the other four years.
• 47:16
  We go back to Russia.
• 47:17
  Ooh.
• 47:18
  Yeah.
• 47:19
  What other super historic track can we replace?
• 47:22
  Nürburgring.
• 47:23
  Nürburgring?
• 47:24
  Yep.
• 47:25
  That track is not for F1 cars.
• 47:26
  No, I know.
• 47:27
  That track is going to kill everyone.
• 47:28
  I was going to say that.
• 47:30
  That one might kill somebody actually.
• 47:31
  Yeah, it probably will.
• 47:33
  Yeah.
• 47:34
  So that's one of the things that I'm thinking of.
• 47:36
  Keep it historic.
• 47:37
  I don't think it's ever going to happen.
• 47:39
  I just find it, it's going to be so hard to like mandate rules for a single track and
• 47:44
  not mandate them for other races, right?
• 47:47
  I'm sure they could do it.
• 47:48
  I mean, they can do whatever the hell they want to, but like, hey, you're coming into
• 47:53
  this, you're coming into this race, you have to change your tires to a different compound,
• 47:57
  at least once.
• 47:58
  That's every single race.
• 47:59
  Oh, except this one race, you have to do it three or four times, right?
• 48:02
  So it's, and I mean, it'll create some really fun strategies.
• 48:06
  It'll definitely create racing because they want to use the tire to its fullest.
• 48:10
  It'll just, I don't know, it's just kind of weird in terms of like how rules go that like
• 48:14
  we're making Monaco even more special than it is.
• 48:16
  And it might just stay, it might just stay boring, unfortunately.
• 48:19
  But like also, I mean, to the tire thing, the biggest thing that they've tried to do
• 48:23
  with the tires is make it so you're wasting less.
• 48:25
  Cause that was like the biggest thing with the people that were like, I don't know if
• 48:29
  you want to say protesting, but like the biggest concern a lot of people had was the amount
• 48:32
  of tires they waste in F1.
• 48:33
  Hey, I'll take one to make a table out of.
• 48:36
  I'll recycle one.
• 48:37
  They got one.
• 48:38
  That's an interesting point.
• 48:39
  Those people are so dumb.
• 48:40
  Well, yeah, but it's like, but it's something that I'm not saying I'm saying right now in
• 48:49
  this day and age, that is the voices that are going to make the changes like that.
• 48:53
  If you're like, Hey, we're going to add four pit stops.
• 48:55
  Well then it's all fricking soft tires.
• 48:57
  We're going to go to all electric cars too.
• 49:03
  We're going to bring formula E for that.
• 49:05
  We're going to bring formula E to F1.
• 49:06
  Just get rid of all emissions.
• 49:08
  I feel like two mandatory pit stops is more than enough and just make sure you use a different
• 49:12
  compound at least once.
• 49:13
  I think you're golden to be honest.
• 49:15
  Good at medium and get too soft.
• 49:16
  I mean, I wouldn't even be opposed to like, you have to use all three compounds.
• 49:20
  At least once.
• 49:21
  That'd be interesting.
• 49:22
  That's so interesting.
• 49:23
  Strategy would come into play.
• 49:24
  Hards are like, Hards can obviously we've seen it.
• 49:26
  They can last the entire race.
• 49:28
  But if you're required to use all three.
• 49:30
  Yeah.
• 49:31
  Screw it.
• 49:32
  Throw the wets on.
• 49:33
  What strategies do you have to start with Hards?
• 49:34
  What if you throw more points at fastest lap?
• 49:39
  Just for Monaco though, or just in general?
• 49:41
  You do in general.
• 49:42
  I wouldn't mind it for in general.
• 49:43
  I think fastest laps is like a 5-1 point.
• 49:45
  You only get one, right?
• 49:47
  A five pointer.
• 49:48
  I think you should get more than that.
• 49:49
  It would give incentive to more people to go and chase it during the race too.
• 49:51
  And you'd see people just racing and battling.
• 49:54
  That would encourage the people out of the points to get it and then deny other top 10
• 49:59
  to get it, right?
• 50:00
  So we might have to encourage the rest of the field though.
• 50:05
  They can do it right now, but it's a single point.
• 50:09
  Right now one point is horrible for fastest lap because right now there's no incentive.
• 50:13
  No, there's no incentive.
• 50:14
  Whoever's making the tires.
• 50:15
  Like last season it was Max was up by a minute and he's like, all right, I'm going to pit
• 50:19
  real quick, put on softs and pull out the fastest lap and then it's it.
• 50:23
  It's more of like a bragging rights at this point.
• 50:25
  If we put more pressure on it, when the races are closer, you're going to have those guys
• 50:30
  seven to or five to 10 fighting for that extra five points.
• 50:33
  And it's going to create more of that battle.
• 50:35
  I like that idea.
• 50:36
  Giving more points to fastest lap.
• 50:38
  Just five.
• 50:39
  Let's not get crazy here.
• 50:40
  I really like that idea actually.
• 50:42
  I think I'd only be annoyed if like a team like Williams was trying to take it every
• 50:46
  single race and they're just being, you know.
• 50:47
  The thing about that, Joe, is like even if that was the case, somebody in the top 10
• 50:51
  is going to take that chance to go and grab it.
• 50:53
  Yes.
• 50:54
  Oh, it all it creates more incentive for someone.
• 50:57
  Because if you're finishing, if you're thinking one step ahead, you guys are thinking three.
• 51:00
  That makes sense.
• 51:01
  If you're finishing seventh, why not pull off, try to get the fastest lap real quick,
• 51:06
  maybe finish ninth or tenth.
• 51:09
  The rest of those people are going to do it.
• 51:11
  Yeah, that's why that's what makes it interesting.
• 51:14
  What's the strategy behind it?
• 51:15
  Because they can still pull out and not get the fastest lap.
• 51:17
  Well, it could be seventh and sixth pulling off.
• 51:19
  Then you have two guys racing for the fastest lap.
• 51:21
  One might not even finish in the top 10.
• 51:23
  Yeah.
• 51:24
  I really like that idea.
• 51:25
  I'd say like three or five points.
• 51:26
  Yeah.
• 51:27
  It would just make it a little bit more interesting.
• 51:30
  All right, Max.
• 51:31
  Let's real quick last bit of news before we kind of give you a constructors and driver
• 51:37
  standings update.
• 51:39
  Carlos, his window has closed to sign the Audi deal.
• 51:44
  Is that just speculation?
• 51:45
  I think it has to be because there's no talks of it since that April or May 26th, whatever
• 51:52
  the deadline was.
• 51:53
  Go to your F1 dark web.
• 51:55
  I'll try.
• 51:56
  I mean, the reality is he's not not going to be in a top five team.
• 52:01
  And that might position him.
• 52:04
  What team is out there?
• 52:05
  What top five team has a spot open?
• 52:07
  Merck.
• 52:08
  That's it.
• 52:09
  I don't think he's going to chase a one year deal.
• 52:11
  Red Bull's out.
• 52:12
  I don't think Red Bull's even in the equation.
• 52:14
  But if he is past that Audi deadline, because I don't think Red Bull is going to give him
• 52:17
  a more than one year deal.
• 52:20
  Why would you not?
• 52:21
  I think he takes that over going to Haas right now.
• 52:22
  Like if you're Red Bull, if you can't go to Audi, why wouldn't he not take a one year
• 52:26
  at Red Bull over going to like a team like that?
• 52:28
  Now that you say that, that's true.
• 52:30
  Like, why wouldn't a Red Bull offer a more than a one year deal?
• 52:33
  That's what I don't wonder, because if they're like if they're worried of Max leaving in
• 52:36
  twenty twenty six, you want to secure a top driver.
• 52:39
  That's a very good point.
• 52:40
  So it would be.
• 52:41
  I can't.
• 52:42
  What?
• 52:43
  That's weird.
• 52:44
  I wonder where he'll be.
• 52:45
  But you would take a Red Bull over a Haas for sure.
• 52:49
  I just want to know the driver line up next year.
• 52:50
  I just really want to know.
• 52:51
  I know we talk about it literally every time.
• 52:54
  So we might as well just continue that trend.
• 52:56
  Constructors, let's just talk about it.
• 52:58
  Red Bull at two hundred and seventy six points in first place at the moment.
• 53:01
  Ferrari sitting at two fifty two, only twenty four points behind Red Bull.
• 53:06
  How big was that?
• 53:08
  We've already kind of touched on just a little bit.
• 53:10
  But again, Carlos being able to keep his position on the grid and Sergio not finishing the race.
• 53:15
  I mean, that's 40 points.
• 53:18
  That's a big job.
• 53:19
  Forty points in one race.
• 53:21
  What's six?
• 53:22
  How many points is sixth?
• 53:24
  Sixth place in a race?
• 53:25
  Yeah.
• 53:26
  It's like eight?
• 53:27
  Seven?
• 53:28
  I think it's eight.
• 53:29
  Yeah.
• 53:30
  To do some quick math.
• 53:31
  It's either eight or ten.
• 53:32
  So you have.
• 53:33
  But so that's you're at least gaining 30 points on Red Bull in one freaking race.
• 53:38
  Is it?
• 53:39
  Yeah.
• 53:40
  You're gaining 32 points in one race.
• 53:41
  Heading into Canada where Verstappen is not confident, saying that he thinks they're going
• 53:46
  to be much better in Spain because Canada is super bumpy.
• 53:49
  And that's where he's saying the car is super not ideal, is if you have to try to ride a
• 53:54
  curb in a corner or whatever, the car reacts horribly.
• 53:57
  And that's what that's where Max is like not feeling Canada as well.
• 54:02
  So do we we could see a Max outside the podium for Canada.
• 54:06
  So Ferrari, McLaren podium again.
• 54:08
  So I think the biggest question here is obviously the beginning of the year, we all were saying
• 54:12
  Red Bull runs away with it.
• 54:13
  Does Red Bull even win the Constructors this year?
• 54:15
  I think so.
• 54:16
  I think I still think so.
• 54:18
  I think they have it up.
• 54:19
  I think it's going to be fun, though.
• 54:20
  I think it's going to be a fight.
• 54:21
  I think there's still a high chance they get it.
• 54:23
  I don't I think that's the only championship that they're actually fighting for.
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  So we talked about we talked with us a little bit earlier about Checo taking that other
• 54:32
  Red Bull seat.
• 54:33
  This Constructors may rely a lot on him throughout the rest of the season.
• 54:36
  I think so.
• 54:37
  That's that's accurate.
• 54:38
  And this is the first time this has happened for him in the Red Bull seat, where a lot
• 54:41
  of it's so we have to go out and do it.
• 54:43
  So is he feeling that extra pressure?
• 54:45
  You think how does he one?
• 54:46
  How does he perform in that?
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  And how much does that affect Red Bull taking?
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  He's racing for that Red Bull seat.
• 54:52
  If he races good enough and they win the Constructors, he gets that other deal that he gets that
• 54:55
  one more year.
• 54:56
  Well, I think he signs it or not because he wants to now, allegedly.
• 55:00
  It's they've made the decision on that seat well before we get you think that's done.
• 55:04
  Yeah, they're not going to wait until the end of the year to fill that seat.
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  I wouldn't think so.
• 55:08
  I just thought it did.
• 55:09
  So last year was an anomaly with with Williams holding up with Sargent because it was in
• 55:13
  the end of the year.
• 55:14
  That like doesn't happen.
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  It's not usually the driver line up set by the midseason break.
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  Right, right.
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  Right.
• 55:19
  Usually, because if he keeps performing like he has been, though, does he not even get
• 55:24
  looked at for that seat?
• 55:25
  I think they have to consider that you have to because even if you do get like like you
• 55:30
  keys outperforming.
• 55:31
  Well, OK, just one race, the race before I guess you keep press.
• 55:35
  They'll finish about it for the car.
• 55:37
  He's outperforming.
• 55:38
  But that's the thing is like if you look at the driver talent, like with the cars that
• 55:40
  they're given, why wouldn't you give that seat to Yuki?
• 55:43
  Like why wouldn't you?
• 55:44
  I think I think though, if they do in constructors, Checo has proven that he deserves it one more
• 55:49
  year.
• 55:50
  I think it depends on where he finishes, though, because last year Max won it by himself.
• 55:54
  You take Checo out of the equation, Max won the constructors.
• 55:58
  That's not going to happen this year.
• 55:59
  If we see if Max ends up winning every one of the races from round out and they just
• 56:03
  win it just based on Max, then it's whatever.
• 56:07
  But yeah, I think it's going to rely a lot on Checo.
• 56:10
  I'd love to bring this back up because one of us has already said it.
• 56:13
  Red Bull has already offered him a one year deal and he came back saying, no, I want to.
• 56:18
  So they've already offered him the seat.
• 56:20
  Well, that's been what Red Bull has said the entire time, though.
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  They said this is Checo's seat.
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  He's under contract for next year.
• 56:26
  If we're taking Red Bull's word, I mean, you know, if we're overtaking it, he's got the
• 56:31
  seat.
• 56:32
  He's under contract.
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  He's not a free agent at the end of this year.
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  He's under contract for Red Bull until next year.
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  Until next year, until the end of last year.
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  If I'm not mistaken.
• 56:41
  I thought his contract was up this year.
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  Yeah.
• 56:44
  Checo?
• 56:45
  Yeah, who are you talking about?
• 56:46
  Max or Checo?
• 56:47
  Yeah.
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  Checo's up at the end of this year.
• 56:49
  Checo's up at this year.
• 56:50
  Yeah.
• 56:51
  OK, I'm wrong then.
• 56:52
  Well, let's not dive too deep into the seats again, like we always do every five minutes.
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  Obviously, we got McLaren at third at 184, 68 points behind Red Bull, but Mercedes only
• 57:03
  20 points behind McLaren at that point.
• 57:07
  Does Merck have a chance at catching McLaren?
• 57:09
  I'm going to go ahead and say no.
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  Not even close.
• 57:11
  No shot.
• 57:12
  88 points, man.
• 57:13
  And then Aston.
• 57:15
  I think the biggest ones here to jump in on this, Smelty, the biggest thing to look at
• 57:20
  is one, can Haas maintain seventh?
• 57:24
  Can they stay in the seventh spot?
• 57:25
  That'd be huge for them.
• 57:26
  And two, does Racing Bulls catch Aston?
• 57:29
  I think they do.
• 57:30
  I think they could at this point with what Aston's shown us the recent weeks.
• 57:33
  What's the highest the Racing Bulls have finished?
• 57:35
  I think they finished fifth.
• 57:36
  I think we see Aston at sixth and fingers crossed Haas takes seventh.
• 57:41
  And I don't, whatever happens below, let it happen.
• 57:43
  I think we've seen enough from Hulk and I mean NK Mag some races, obviously he's not
• 57:48
  amazing, but we've seen enough that like I think they could honestly hold seventh.
• 57:53
  I think they do.
• 57:54
  I think they could.
• 57:55
  Racing Bulls catch Aston, I think that's the biggest thing.
• 57:57
  I think the rest, I think three and four.
• 57:58
  I mean 20 points back?
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  Dude, I, they could.
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  There's a lot of season left.
• 58:03
  There's a lot of season left.
• 58:04
  I feel like, I mean Alonso has had more good races than he has bad races.
• 58:09
  I think the last two have been very bad for him.
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  I think he probably comes back.
• 58:13
  I don't know what it has been with Alonso.
• 58:15
  He's just, is he just like off his game a little bit or is the car just really not good?
• 58:18
  I don't know, because Stroll's been doing, Stroll's been doing what Stroll does.
• 58:22
  So I feel like he hasn't fallen back.
• 58:24
  It's just been kind of Alonso that's been making up a little bit.
• 58:27
  I'm more interested to see if Haas maybe catches even racing Bulls.
• 58:30
  Like maybe they even take the sixth place.
• 58:31
  Yuki's too consistent.
• 58:32
  I think with Yuki's consistency as well, backing off that, it's Yuki's so consistent that just
• 58:39
  because being that consistent, he will get rewarded with a sixth or a fifth this year.
• 58:43
  He'll get rewarded with a big points jump.
• 58:46
  And I think right now, just looking at this.
• 58:47
  You think Yuki's going to finish fifth or sixth?
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  I think he gets rewarded with it because of his consistency.
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  With something crazy.
• 58:52
  In the WDC or the constructors?
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  No, no, in a race, in one race.
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  Oh, in one race.
• 58:57
  I think I can drive him.
• 58:58
  I'm like, there's no way.
• 58:59
  I think he gets rewarded with fifth or sixth this year because of how consistent he's been.
• 59:05
  And I think that's going to be a huge point jump.
• 59:07
  And right now, I think Aston is going to be consistently fighting for the seventh, eighth,
• 59:11
  or sorry, eighth, ninth, tenth.
• 59:13
  Like they're going to be the bottom, bottom of the barrel now.
• 59:16
  I think that their sprint of Alonso finishing in the top five, top six is done.
• 59:23
  I think they're competing for the bottom of the barrel and competing against people like
• 59:27
  Yuki who he's going to have, you know, he's so consistent.
• 59:30
  He's going to have a race that pops out for fifth, sixth.
• 59:32
  For sure.
• 59:33
  Aston's going to need some big upgrades because that car just looks like it's getting worse
• 59:37
  and worse.
• 59:38
  And that V car, even Danny Rick is getting more consistent.
• 59:41
  You know, he's getting what looks like back to race form.
• 59:44
  And I mean, Yuki's just he's a consistent.
• 59:46
  I mean, just looking at it right now, he's had three of the races where he didn't finish
• 59:50
  in points.
• 59:51
  So he's five for eight points finishers.
• 59:53
  That's pretty good for him.
• 59:54
  Yeah, that's pretty good.
• 59:55
  I mean, the upgrade that Aston needs is probably new to show up next year.
• 59:58
  The upgrade that Aston needs sits in their second seat.
• 1:00:04
  We know that.
• 1:00:05
  And we know that's not going to happen.
• 1:00:07
  Also just a note before we go into driver points real quick, I totally said your table
• 1:00:10
  wrong.
• 1:00:11
  You have a nice, beautiful table that you made, Farrarys 24 points behind Red Bull and
• 1:00:15
  McLaren 68 points behind Ferrari.
• 1:00:18
  I was thinking that was the points behind the leader.
• 1:00:20
  So yeah, no much, much bigger discrepancy there.
• 1:00:23
  This was a huge race for Ferrari.
• 1:00:25
  No doubt.
• 1:00:26
  No, a hundred percent.
• 1:00:27
  Huge race for Ferrari, even splitting the McLarens.
• 1:00:28
  You imagine Lewis, if Ferrari wins the constructors this year and Lewis gets to walk into that
• 1:00:33
  team next year, watch out for Lewis.
• 1:00:36
  This is where we start seeing more hammer time.
• 1:00:38
  It will be fun.
• 1:00:39
  Lewis does not look like himself this year.
• 1:00:42
  I know the car is crap.
• 1:00:43
  No, it is.
• 1:00:44
  But he just does not look like himself.
• 1:00:45
  The car side, he doesn't look like Lewis Hamilton right now.
• 1:00:48
  Driver points, driver points, Max leading the way obviously at 169.
• 1:00:54
  Personally do not see anybody really catching him.
• 1:00:56
  I mean, if they do bring upgrades, I think Max still runs away with the driver points,
• 1:01:01
  but I think it'd be a lot closer than, absolutely than it has been last year at least.
• 1:01:07
  McLarens win was huge this week, but I think you could see Lando trying to catch, trying
• 1:01:12
  to catch LeClaire, honestly.
• 1:01:13
  I can see LeClaire catching Max.
• 1:01:16
  I think it's going to be a battle between them at the end of the year.
• 1:01:19
  I mean, it's 31 points right now.
• 1:01:21
  Like LeClaire has been, I mean, with taking into account Max, obviously he has five wins
• 1:01:27
  on the year, but LeClaire is fourth, third, second, fourth, fourth, third, third, first.
• 1:01:31
  What if Max DNFs one more time?
• 1:01:33
  Then they're caught up more or less.
• 1:01:34
  Say Lando wins that race.
• 1:01:36
  That's 25 points swing.
• 1:01:38
  Yeah.
• 1:01:39
  I mean, even if Lando wins, or sorry, not Lando, LeClaire, if LeClaire wins and then Max finishes
• 1:01:44
  sixth again, what did we say?
• 1:01:46
  It was eight?
• 1:01:47
  That's an 18 point swing in one race.
• 1:01:50
  Yeah.
• 1:01:51
  Yeah.
• 1:01:52
  No, I think it could be huge.
• 1:01:53
  The only one, the only thing that's kind of glaring to me, I'm just curious.
• 1:01:57
  17, American public education.
• 1:01:59
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:00
  It's all good.
• 1:02:01
  Yeah.
• 1:02:02
  So, Piazzari, do we think he could actually catch Checo by the end of the season with
• 1:02:06
  the way things have been going for Checo?
• 1:02:09
  I know, I know it's kind of-
• 1:02:10
  That 36 points is a lot.
• 1:02:12
  That's a lot.
• 1:02:13
  I mean, if it was like Lando, I would say maybe because Lando has the ability to go
• 1:02:17
  and win a race.
• 1:02:20
  I would argue that Oscar has the ability to go and win a race.
• 1:02:23
  The tail of the Ferraris though.
• 1:02:24
  I gotta see more yet.
• 1:02:25
  Which is fine.
• 1:02:26
  He's got to get more consistent, which he's been doing the last few weeks, but we got to
• 1:02:29
  see it over the course of a season.
• 1:02:31
  I think too that the tail of the Ferraris here, with how good Sianz started off the
• 1:02:35
  season and now we're seeing Leclerc just kind of dominating here at the end.
• 1:02:40
  Not dominating obviously, but getting back in race pace.
• 1:02:43
  I agree with Tyler entirely.
• 1:02:45
  I think Leclerc and Max are fighting the entire time and I don't think Checo can keep up with
• 1:02:52
  Sianz on points.
• 1:02:54
  I don't.
• 1:02:55
  I don't think so either.
• 1:02:56
  I think there's a real chance that Ferrari can pull it off this year.
• 1:02:59
  Just looking at this, the numbers, Checo doesn't catch up to Sianz on points.
• 1:03:03
  Sianz either goes up to third or stays in fourth.
• 1:03:05
  I think he stays there.
• 1:03:06
  I think the top four are cemented with those four guys.
• 1:03:08
  I would agree for sure.
• 1:03:10
  So then it becomes, okay can Leclerc drive with Max and when Leclerc is racing, Leclerc
• 1:03:16
  is racing.
• 1:03:17
  There's very few people that are as good as him in a car when he's in his form.
• 1:03:20
  So are you saying we could see a Ferrari constructors and drivers?
• 1:03:24
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:25
  If Leclerc catches Max, then they just won the constructors.
• 1:03:28
  I would love to see a Leclerc-Max battle like we saw Max and Lewis in 2021.
• 1:03:36
  It's every other race probably.
• 1:03:37
  But yeah, it's-
• 1:03:38
  I mean that would be fun the rest of the season.
• 1:03:40
  That would be fun.
• 1:03:41
  Throw Lando in there for a couple races.
• 1:03:42
  That would be just gnarly.
• 1:03:44
  And something that we didn't see coming.
• 1:03:46
  Like obviously we didn't see it coming, but not even the experts saw it coming.
• 1:03:50
  They just assumed that Red Bull was just going to run away with everything.
• 1:03:53
  And now at this point, we could absolutely see a repeat of 2021 at the very least.
• 1:03:58
  That'd be sweet.
• 1:03:59
  At the very least.
• 1:04:00
  And then like you said, throw in Lando for a couple.
• 1:04:01
  Yeah, dude.
• 1:04:02
  Throw in a couple podiums for Oscar and now all of a sudden McLaren's right there.
• 1:04:06
  They're probably not in the constructors race, but-
• 1:04:08
  I think the battles between Ferrari and Red Bull for number one, McLaren has third locked
• 1:04:12
  up.
• 1:04:13
  I don't think that McLaren can make the jump to that second yet though with how consistent
• 1:04:16
  those two other cars are.
• 1:04:18
  Yeah, for sure.
• 1:04:19
  No, yeah.
• 1:04:20
  For sure.
• 1:04:21
  But I think it all comes down to Checo.
• 1:04:23
  It all comes down to Checo.
• 1:04:26
  For everything.
• 1:04:27
  And the biggest thing here, the gap between Russell and Piastri isn't as crazy as I thought
• 1:04:33
  it was.
• 1:04:34
  Sorry, Russell and Lewis is not as crazy as I thought it was with how much Russell looks
• 1:04:38
  like he's been outperforming Lewis this year, just as a whole.
• 1:04:43
  And like Yuki sitting in 10th with 19 points in a V-Carb is insane.
• 1:04:47
  Yeah, that's awesome.
• 1:04:48
  I think he's got a top 10 locked up pretty much.
• 1:04:50
  I don't know.
• 1:04:52
  It's so funny that Bearman's still in 12th.
• 1:04:55
  Who's just about to say the same thing?
• 1:04:57
  I know.
• 1:04:58
  It's crazy.
• 1:04:59
  Nico above Ricciardo too.
• 1:05:00
  Nico in 13th with 6th in that car is kind of nuts.
• 1:05:04
  That is wild.
• 1:05:05
  That is wild.
• 1:05:06
  There's some eye-opening stuff.
• 1:05:07
  I haven't looked at this in a while.
• 1:05:08
  Some really eye-opening stuff, some of these guys.
• 1:05:11
  So with that, let's move into the Canada preview.
• 1:05:16
  Indeed, everyone.
• 1:11:08
  And right into our Canada preview, Joe, why don't you just take it away, homie, like you
• 1:11:26
  always do?
• 1:11:27
  We'll do.
• 1:11:28
  The Formula One AWS Grand Prix du Canada 2024.
• 1:11:32
  That's what we have coming up.
• 1:11:35
  The circuit Gilles Villeneuve occupies almost the entirety of the Notre Dame Island in Montreal,
• 1:11:40
  Quebec.
• 1:11:41
  And the fun fact, Canada hosted the longest race in F1 history in 2011.
• 1:11:46
  Any guesses on how long that race went?
• 1:11:49
  No idea.
• 1:11:50
  Any takers?
• 1:11:51
  That's four hours, four minutes and 39 seconds.
• 1:11:56
  It's a long, long race.
• 1:12:00
  Last year, starting the race, we had saw Max Alonso in Hamilton.
• 1:12:04
  Sainz and Perez started further down the grid just below points.
• 1:12:08
  On lap one, we saw Hamilton get past Alonso before the first turn and Sainz begins to
• 1:12:13
  fight with Perez for position a little further down the grid.
• 1:12:16
  At the end of the long straight in the first lap, the fighting continues as Sainz overtakes
• 1:12:20
  Perez who moves into the position right behind him and actually cuts off Magnussen in their
• 1:12:24
  braking zone, sending the Haas off the track only for a little bit.
• 1:12:28
  On lap 12, George oversteers into a barrier after hitting too much of a curb and loses
• 1:12:32
  the back end, destroying half of his front wing and gaining a back tire puncture from
• 1:12:36
  fourth place.
• 1:12:37
  This triggers a safety car, encouraging the top 10 to into the pits for a quick stop.
• 1:12:42
  Unfortunately to help negate the stacked pit stop, Lando backed up the field slightly so
• 1:12:46
  Oscar could finish up in his pit and get clear for Lando right after.
• 1:12:50
  He was given a five second penalty for unsportsmanlike behavior.
• 1:12:54
  Alonso found his way back past Lewis on lap 23 for second place.
• 1:12:58
  The two champions continue fighting through the lap, but Alonso made it stick for the
• 1:13:01
  time being.
• 1:13:02
  On lap 35, Nick DeVries fought K-Mag, showing him some moves that K-Mag has been using this
• 1:13:08
  season, pushing him off the track slightly, giving Russell two free positions up to 12th.
• 1:13:14
  This fighting continued down a few more turns when Nick went for an overtake on the inside,
• 1:13:18
  locked up into the turn, making himself a wall in front of K-Mag.
• 1:13:24
  They both ended up in the runoff area, stuck.
• 1:13:27
  By the time they found their way out, they were 18th and 19th, 40 seconds behind 17th.
• 1:13:32
  Russell's race went from bad to worse on lap 55 when he was told they needed to retire as
• 1:13:38
  the brake wear had gotten too high in the front left.
• 1:13:41
  So the final was as it started for Stapp and Alonso and Hamilton.
• 1:13:44
  We saw really great drives from Carlos and Charles and Checo, who made up a handful of
• 1:13:49
  positions from slightly lower in the top 10.
• 1:13:52
  Both McLarens qualified higher than their final race positions, even though they had
• 1:13:55
  some good fights, they were unable to keep up with the top three teams, all while having
• 1:14:00
  a five second penalty to work with.
• 1:14:01
  And when I say they finished higher in the final race positions, they actually finished
• 1:14:04
  lower.
• 1:14:05
  So they're in the low top 10.
• 1:14:08
  And then Verstappen's lead was only 10 seconds by the end of the race, and that was Canada
• 1:14:11
  2023.
• 1:14:12
  That's like the shortest recap you've ever had.
• 1:14:18
  I just thought Monaco, Monaco was more happened last.
• 1:14:24
  I think more happened.
• 1:14:27
  More definitely happened.
• 1:14:28
  I just kind of condense it a little bit.
• 1:14:29
  Monaco was a bit longer.
• 1:14:30
  I stopped watching the 30 minute recap.
• 1:14:32
  I just watched the highlights and I think that's what I'm going to go with from now
• 1:14:36
  going forward.
• 1:14:37
  Saves a little bit of time.
• 1:14:38
  I forgot how good Alonso and them were last year.
• 1:14:44
  Every time you do a recap and you're like Alonso second.
• 1:14:46
  Alonso's in every recap.
• 1:14:48
  I'm like what?
• 1:14:49
  Yeah.
• 1:14:50
  Yeah.
• 1:14:51
  Alonso.
• 1:14:52
  Yeah.
• 1:14:53
  Alonso was fighting like for seconds at almost every single race and then they just hit a
• 1:14:58
  huge wall.
• 1:14:59
  Yep.
• 1:15:00
  Pretty much.
• 1:15:01
  Pretty much.
• 1:15:02
  Yeah.
• 1:15:03
  Seems like maybe that wall hit a little bit earlier this year or maybe they just have
• 1:15:07
  had a few bad races.
• 1:15:08
  I don't know.
• 1:15:09
  We'll see it in Canada.
• 1:15:10
  He did well last year so he should do.
• 1:15:12
  He's not going to get second place this year, but he should get top 10.
• 1:15:15
  Monaco did second too.
• 1:15:16
  They're done.
• 1:15:17
  Yeah, that's a good point.
• 1:15:18
  That's right.
• 1:15:19
  Put a fork in them.
• 1:15:20
  Put a fork in them.
• 1:15:21
  Has Alonso been on the podium this year?
• 1:15:23
  No.
• 1:15:24
  No.
• 1:15:25
  No, he's not.
• 1:15:26
  I think his best was fifth or fourth.
• 1:15:27
  And why did they take such a step backwards, man?
• 1:15:28
  That's just.
• 1:15:29
  Wow.
• 1:15:30
  I honestly think.
• 1:15:31
  Or is everybody taking that much step forward?
• 1:15:32
  I actually think they took a step forward from where they were at the end of last year.
• 1:15:35
  It wasn't a huge step forward and they're already starting to fall behind everyone else.
• 1:15:39
  I don't think they're good at upgrading through the year and it's showing again, unfortunately.
• 1:15:43
  That makes sense.
• 1:15:44
  I missed.
• 1:15:45
  There was no flags last year, right?
• 1:15:46
  There was a safety card that was on the back of the car.
• 1:15:49
  There was a safety card that came out for Russell hitting the wall after getting a curb
• 1:15:55
  too much.
• 1:15:56
  He didn't take a ton of damage.
• 1:15:57
  I mean, he took a wing.
• 1:15:58
  He got pretty much his wing was gone.
• 1:16:01
  Funny enough, he retired for something completely different.
• 1:16:03
  Maybe he got damaged from it too.
• 1:16:05
  He retired for brake wear, which I haven't really heard of.
• 1:16:08
  What was the podium last year?
• 1:16:09
  The podium last year was for stamping Alonso on Hamilton.
• 1:16:14
  Hamilton?
• 1:16:15
  How many DRS zones are in this?
• 1:16:16
  Two.
• 1:16:17
  Two?
• 1:16:18
  Obviously the back.
• 1:16:19
  There's one on the back straight and there's one at the starting line.
• 1:16:23
  Dude, I really think we-
• 1:16:25
  That's a really short DRS zone.
• 1:16:27
  I really think we could see another Red Bull-less podium, to be honest with you.
• 1:16:33
  I don't think Chacko's going to make it.
• 1:16:35
  I feel like even though the car isn't going to be at its best, I still think Verstappen
• 1:16:40
  puts up enough of a fight to maybe-
• 1:16:42
  I think he still gets the win.
• 1:16:43
  You think he wins?
• 1:16:44
  Verstappen?
• 1:16:45
  Man.
• 1:16:46
  He was 10 seconds ahead of second place last year.
• 1:16:51
  Man.
• 1:16:52
  Different cars.
• 1:16:53
  How far ahead we see in Monaco last year.
• 1:16:55
  It's tough.
• 1:16:56
  I put him in my podium.
• 1:16:57
  I don't know if I put him in first place.
• 1:16:59
  I'm not sure.
• 1:17:00
  I feel like it's really hard to see who else was really good at this race.
• 1:17:05
  Unfortunately the McLarens, they were still in their bad period last year, but they didn't
• 1:17:09
  do amazing during the race.
• 1:17:12
  They lost positions.
• 1:17:14
  Ferrari looked really strong, so they're in my podium.
• 1:17:16
  I'll just kind of say my podium prediction right now.
• 1:17:19
  Go for it now.
• 1:17:20
  It's going to be Verstappen, McLaren, Sines.
• 1:17:22
  I don't know if Verstappen wins though.
• 1:17:27
  I want to put Lando up there, but I don't think he's going to get- he's going to break
• 1:17:32
  top three.
• 1:17:33
  I'm hoping fourth or fifth.
• 1:17:35
  Maybe Oscar fills in that other position.
• 1:17:36
  We were just talking about this before on the little break we had there.
• 1:17:41
  Out of all the tracks, this is probably one of the most interesting for fighting and for
• 1:17:46
  overtakes and everything.
• 1:17:48
  The back stretch of this track is there's so many in and outs, quick turns.
• 1:17:52
  There's a DRS right before the last big turn.
• 1:17:55
  Or not for the last big turn, but that's sector two, if you will, as Tyler pulled it up here.
• 1:18:02
  There's so many good spots for good fights.
• 1:18:05
  This isn't a track I think where- if you're good in the corners, this is going to be huge
• 1:18:10
  in this track, and McLaren is, correct?
• 1:18:14
  McLaren's good at low and high speed corners.
• 1:18:16
  That's kind of where they- they don't have the top end Red Bull speed straight line.
• 1:18:20
  No, it's damn close, but they excel in the high and low speed corners.
• 1:18:24
  And Smosie was saying-
• 1:18:25
  Where Mercedes epically fails.
• 1:18:26
  Smosie was saying Red Bull, as far as the turns on this track, should be a downfall
• 1:18:31
  on them.
• 1:18:32
  But as far as racing on this track, I think it's going to be- I don't think there's going
• 1:18:38
  to be huge gaps between- I won't say the top ten, because that's just not realistic, but
• 1:18:43
  I mean I think we're going to see some fights here late in the race.
• 1:18:46
  I think we're going to see a good fight, maybe for first, late in the race.
• 1:18:49
  Or maybe even first.
• 1:18:50
  Or first.
• 1:18:51
  That would be so dope.
• 1:18:52
  That would be so awesome.
• 1:18:54
  That would be nice, because you very rarely see a fight for first at the end of the race.
• 1:18:58
  Usually the leader has kind of gotten, you know, a four or five plus second gap, and
• 1:19:02
  then you look at, what was it, two races ago when Max and Lando were going at it at the
• 1:19:08
  end.
• 1:19:09
  Like that, you just don't see that anymore.
• 1:19:12
  Especially in the Verstappen dominance era.
• 1:19:14
  But it's like you just, you very rarely see that fight for first at the end.
• 1:19:17
  And boy was that exhilarating.
• 1:19:19
  And this is like a pretty similar track as far as like the DRS spots and the amount of
• 1:19:24
  turns and stuff.
• 1:19:26
  I think it might favor Lando a little bit in this track.
• 1:19:28
  I wouldn't be surprised if we're talking about Lando taking another first, this might be
• 1:19:31
  the track to do it.
• 1:19:34
  I mean, I mean, why not?
• 1:19:36
  I mean, that's kind of my podium.
• 1:19:38
  Lando, Charles, and I think Max still gets in there.
• 1:19:42
  But I think we could see a Max-less win.
• 1:19:46
  I have the same podium, I'll just jump right in.
• 1:19:48
  I have Verstappen with Claire and Lando as well.
• 1:19:52
  I think it's just, I think this track speaks very well to Lando.
• 1:19:58
  You know what?
• 1:19:59
  I'm going to switch that up.
• 1:20:00
  I'm going to switch it up.
• 1:20:01
  I don't know.
• 1:20:02
  It's kind of locked in stone, but.
• 1:20:03
  Lando, LeClaire, and Science.
• 1:20:06
  Lando, LeClaire, and Science.
• 1:20:07
  Oh, so no Max at all.
• 1:20:08
  No Red Bull up top here.
• 1:20:09
  I think this is where, I think this is where Red Bull makes that push.
• 1:20:12
  And all the news in the back is around Ferrari taking the constructors and Ferrari on the
• 1:20:17
  uptick.
• 1:20:18
  Oh buddy.
• 1:20:19
  Slow down.
• 1:20:20
  That's spicy.
• 1:20:21
  Talking about taking a hot lap.
• 1:20:24
  That's a hot take.
• 1:20:25
  I think Max comes back real strong this week.
• 1:20:27
  I got him winning this race.
• 1:20:28
  I just, there's too much passing opportunity for the Red Bull to excel at what they do
• 1:20:33
  in that top end.
• 1:20:34
  Their DRS is unmatched right now.
• 1:20:36
  So if you can get Max within that second, like he's going to take that spot.
• 1:20:40
  So I'm with you Smelty.
• 1:20:41
  I got Verstappen, LeClaire, and Lando.
• 1:20:43
  I would not be surprised if Pia Stray and Lando both finish in the podium this week.
• 1:20:48
  That's what I'm saying.
• 1:20:49
  Why not take it?
• 1:20:50
  Oscar's looking so much better.
• 1:20:51
  LeClaire's just been too consistent.
• 1:20:52
  Yeah, Oscar's been looking a lot better man.
• 1:20:56
  Like I seriously think he's coming on strong.
• 1:20:58
  I need to see another bad race from Max before I start taking him out of my podium projection.
• 1:21:02
  I feel that.
• 1:21:03
  I can't debase it off of one race.
• 1:21:04
  I feel that, but especially in a race that's...
• 1:21:07
  But Nautico's straight qualifying bro.
• 1:21:09
  I mean yes, it's, I mean you got to have the car too right?
• 1:21:12
  It's not just skill.
• 1:21:13
  You got to have a good car there, but...
• 1:21:15
  But you put Max, you have Max start, you know, even P6 and any other track, he's finishing
• 1:21:19
  in the podium.
• 1:21:20
  Yeah.
• 1:21:21
  I would agree with that.
• 1:21:22
  I just think, I just think I've said this I think every week.
• 1:21:25
  Because I want it to happen so bad.
• 1:21:28
  Zions finally makes a return to the podium.
• 1:21:30
  He's got to do it.
• 1:21:31
  Zions?
• 1:21:32
  Well he finished on the podium last week brother.
• 1:21:33
  No, I mean like, yeah, but I mean it was freaking Monaco.
• 1:21:36
  Everybody like, people finished where they started.
• 1:21:37
  It didn't count.
• 1:21:38
  It doesn't count.
• 1:21:39
  But before then, when's his last podium?
• 1:21:41
  Before that race?
• 1:21:42
  Japan.
• 1:21:43
  How long goes that?
• 1:21:44
  A couple races.
• 1:21:45
  Three races before.
• 1:21:46
  Four races before.
• 1:21:47
  That's more so, Monaco, I mean, even Max was like, I should have brought my pillow.
• 1:21:51
  He's raced in seven races this year and gotten on a podium in four of them.
• 1:21:54
  Yeah, but the first three, that's my point though, more so.
• 1:21:57
  I'm going to exclude Monaco from this.
• 1:22:00
  The first three races.
• 1:22:01
  So he's three for six.
• 1:22:02
  So the first three races though, right?
• 1:22:03
  That's a pretty good percentage.
• 1:22:04
  Ah, well he didn't race the second one because of his appendix.
• 1:22:08
  So the first three races he raced.
• 1:22:10
  He started off the season very hot.
• 1:22:11
  I think he comes back up and finishes hot again.
• 1:22:14
  I think we do see more consistent finishing from Zions.
• 1:22:17
  I would agree with that.
• 1:22:18
  Like, as the season continues to progress.
• 1:22:20
  I don't see very many races where Ferrari, both Ferrari drivers are outside the top five
• 1:22:24
  at this point.
• 1:22:25
  I would agree.
• 1:22:26
  I would agree.
• 1:22:27
  It's literally Max versus the McLarens and the Ferraris.
• 1:22:28
  And that's your top five every race.
• 1:22:31
  Where do you have?
• 1:22:32
  Straight up.
• 1:22:33
  So then I got to ask, Checo, where do you have him this race?
• 1:22:36
  Five through seven.
• 1:22:38
  I think that's a fair statement.
• 1:22:40
  I think it would surprise the heck out of me if he drove the heck out of it and got
• 1:22:45
  four.
• 1:22:46
  But I just don't think he can finish that high right now.
• 1:22:49
  I don't see him finishing above the McLarens or Ferraris.
• 1:22:51
  And he's never going to beat Max.
• 1:22:53
  I think we could see Checo return to the podium.
• 1:22:57
  I don't know.
• 1:22:58
  But I think we could see Checo return to the top five in Spain.
• 1:23:01
  He will return back to the podium this year for sure.
• 1:23:03
  I would think so.
• 1:23:04
  Street track.
• 1:23:05
  When's the next street track?
• 1:23:06
  Yeah, when that happens, I'm not sure.
• 1:23:08
  It's not Singapore.
• 1:23:09
  I mean, he's...
• 1:23:10
  Azerbaijan.
• 1:23:11
  Oh, Baku.
• 1:23:12
  I love Baku.
• 1:23:13
  And that's in a minute.
• 1:23:14
  It's one...
• 1:23:15
  I love Baku.
• 1:23:16
  Minute.
• 1:23:17
  It's a minute away.
• 1:23:18
  It's a minute away.
• 1:23:19
  It's a minute away.
• 1:23:20
  So...
• 1:23:21
  It's halfway through September, homie.
• 1:23:23
  Yeah.
• 1:23:24
  That's one he'll be in my top three prediction.
• 1:23:26
  Yeah, that's fair.
• 1:23:27
  That's fair.
• 1:23:28
  I think Checo...
• 1:23:30
  I think what Tyler said is perfect.
• 1:23:32
  I think Ferrari is consistently in the top five.
• 1:23:34
  I think...
• 1:23:35
  And I think it's going to hurt Red Bull.
• 1:23:37
  Because I don't think Max is going to...
• 1:23:39
  Like, out of the next three, four races, Max wins two or three of them.
• 1:23:45
  I think he wins at least two.
• 1:23:46
  Yeah.
• 1:23:47
  I think he wins for either the next four, Canada, Spain, Australia, and then...
• 1:23:51
  No, Austria.
• 1:23:52
  Austria.
• 1:23:53
  Austria.
• 1:23:54
  My bad.
• 1:23:55
  Australia.
• 1:23:56
  Lord.
• 1:23:57
  Austria.
• 1:23:58
  Max is going to take Austria.
• 1:23:59
  It's Red Bull's turn.
• 1:24:00
  Yeah.
• 1:24:01
  Yeah.
• 1:24:02
  So I have him in there and I have him at Britain.
• 1:24:03
  He could probably win Silver Silver.
• 1:24:04
  Did Ferrari look good in Austria last year?
• 1:24:05
  We can talk about when we get to Austria, but...
• 1:24:07
  Yeah, we'll get there, but...
• 1:24:08
  I have a quick question.
• 1:24:10
  We kind of talked about in constructors, but I feel like I'm still waiting for...
• 1:24:14
  This race, I think, is going to...I'm hoping it kind of solidifies the idea for me.
• 1:24:21
  Do we think Ferrari is for sure the better car than McLaren right now?
• 1:24:25
  No, not for me.
• 1:24:27
  No.
• 1:24:28
  So are they pretty even, Keel, right now?
• 1:24:31
  Or is one slightly better?
• 1:24:34
  I think the only thing that makes Ferrari slightly better is not the car, it's the drivers
• 1:24:37
  right now.
• 1:24:38
  I would agree with that.
• 1:24:39
  Oh, that hurts to hear, but I think you're probably right.
• 1:24:41
  I think Lando and Leclerc are equals at this point in terms of their drivers.
• 1:24:45
  But Science is definitely better than the Astra.
• 1:24:46
  I give it to Leclerc over Lando.
• 1:24:47
  I don't know.
• 1:24:48
  I don't think Leclerc is consistent with Lando.
• 1:24:51
  I give it to Carlos over Oscar, so I guess I do view Ferrari a little bit better than
• 1:24:57
  McLaren.
• 1:24:58
  I think the cars are similar, but I think the skill of the Ferrari drivers does trump
• 1:25:03
  McLaren just by sliver, but I think they are better.
• 1:25:07
  That's a hurt.
• 1:25:08
  That's the experience, that's everything.
• 1:25:09
  I think Ferrari, they have two better drivers.
• 1:25:11
  I think Lando is just a step behind Leclerc as far as that.
• 1:25:16
  I think he's better than Science.
• 1:25:17
  I think Lando is the number one driver on most teams though, for sure.
• 1:25:21
  If he was put on different teams?
• 1:25:22
  Other than Red Bull, Mercedes, with Max, Ferrari.
• 1:25:26
  With Mercedes, he's the number one driver over Lewis this year.
• 1:25:30
  100% Lando, yeah.
• 1:25:31
  I just think I've seen enough from him.
• 1:25:34
  I was going to say with George, he's the number one.
• 1:25:39
  Let him be the number one driver with Lewis, I think he's better than Lewis this year.
• 1:25:43
  Lewis is two years away from his seventh championship.
• 1:25:46
  That's fine.
• 1:25:47
  Three years away from his seventh championship.
• 1:25:48
  That's fine.
• 1:25:49
  Come on.
• 1:25:50
  That's fine.
• 1:25:51
  I'm not saying.
• 1:25:52
  You ain't listening, cuz.
• 1:25:54
  I'm saying you put Lando on the same team as Lewis, I don't think he's the number one
• 1:25:58
  driver.
• 1:25:59
  I think they're equals.
• 1:26:00
  I don't think there is a number one driver.
• 1:26:02
  If you put Lando...
• 1:26:03
  I think so.
• 1:26:04
  That's not even a hot take that's gibberish.
• 1:26:06
  That's fine.
• 1:26:07
  That's fine.
• 1:26:08
  Let's say we put Lando and Lewis in the Mercedes right now.
• 1:26:11
  Or even in the McLaren.
• 1:26:12
  Well then Lewis is winning in the Mercedes over Lando.
• 1:26:15
  I disagree.
• 1:26:16
  I think Lando's taking the wins in Mercedes over Lewis.
• 1:26:19
  In the Mercedes over Lewis?
• 1:26:20
  Okay.
• 1:26:21
  This year.
• 1:26:22
  The Mercedes ain't winning nothing.
• 1:26:23
  This year.
• 1:26:24
  Okay.
• 1:26:25
  Put them both in McLaren then.
• 1:26:26
  I think Lando is still doing better than Lewis this year.
• 1:26:29
  No.
• 1:26:30
  No, she's not.
• 1:26:31
  I think she's a car maybe in the first half of the season.
• 1:26:33
  Let's say they both have been in the car for two years.
• 1:26:35
  I'm taking Lewis all day.
• 1:26:36
  I'm not.
• 1:26:37
  He's still a step back.
• 1:26:38
  He's a step back.
• 1:26:39
  I gotta ask on this point.
• 1:26:41
  Are you saying up until this point in the year you think the rest of the season he finishes
• 1:26:44
  higher in the points?
• 1:26:45
  Up until this point.
• 1:26:46
  So where's your prediction?
• 1:26:47
  They're in the same car right now.
• 1:26:49
  Let's say McLaren because they're actually getting good points.
• 1:26:53
  Up until this point in the year let's say you give Lando a couple points.
• 1:26:55
  Do you see where Piastri is right now for McLaren?
• 1:26:57
  That's where Lewis is right now if he's in the McLaren with him.
• 1:27:00
  So let's finish out the season then.
• 1:27:01
  Let's say we go to the end of the season.
• 1:27:03
  Let's look forward 15 races.
• 1:27:04
  You wildin'.
• 1:27:05
  Let's look forward 15 races, right?
• 1:27:08
  Is Lewis finishing higher than Lando by the end of the season in the same car?
• 1:27:14
  110%.
• 1:27:15
  That's why Lewis is the number one driver any car he goes to.
• 1:27:19
  Man.
• 1:27:20
  He's not gonna be the number one driver at Ferrari.
• 1:27:22
  Yeah he will.
• 1:27:24
  Guys, guys, I'm sorry.
• 1:27:26
  I just, no way.
• 1:27:27
  I don't think Ferrari's gonna favor one or the other.
• 1:27:29
  Sure, I think that.
• 1:27:30
  I think they'll be on equal playing field.
• 1:27:32
  So hold on, hold on though.
• 1:27:33
  Because I gotta go back to his point.
• 1:27:35
  He is three years off of his seventh championship, right?
• 1:27:40
  It's still Lewis Hamilton.
• 1:27:41
  He's having a rough start to the season.
• 1:27:44
  He will put it together.
• 1:27:45
  By the end of the year he will be above Russell in points.
• 1:27:47
  He'll be fighting up closer to that sixth spot.
• 1:27:50
  I'm gonna say something that's really gonna frustrate you.
• 1:27:52
  I think Fernando is just at the same point as Lewis.
• 1:27:56
  I think if you put Lewis in the same seat as Fernando, I think they would perform the
• 1:28:00
  same.
• 1:28:01
  Is that even hot takes or something?
• 1:28:04
  I just think Lewis is getting to that point in his career.
• 1:28:06
  I think he's still skilled.
• 1:28:07
  I think he's gonna score plenty of points in a Ferrari car.
• 1:28:10
  Do you think he wins an eighth drivers?
• 1:28:13
  I'd love to see it.
• 1:28:14
  Do you think he wins an eighth drivers championship?
• 1:28:17
  No.
• 1:28:18
  I'd love to see it.
• 1:28:20
  But no.
• 1:28:21
  I don't.
• 1:28:22
  So you think he's past his prime?
• 1:28:23
  Max is way too much of a problem right now.
• 1:28:24
  He's past his prime.
• 1:28:25
  He's done.
• 1:28:26
  I don't think he's.
• 1:28:27
  I guess.
• 1:28:28
  I guess.
• 1:28:29
  I guess he's past his prime.
• 1:28:30
  I guess he's past his prime.
• 1:28:31
  But with Max on the grid, I don't think Lewis wins another championship.
• 1:28:35
  You don't pay a man that much money if he's out of his prime.
• 1:28:39
  Again, I'd love to see it though.
• 1:28:41
  I'd love to see him win eighth, especially in a Ferrari after winning so many in a Mercedes
• 1:28:46
  of course.
• 1:28:47
  I'm with you.
• 1:28:48
  Just for the sport.
• 1:28:49
  Just for the sport.
• 1:28:50
  I'd love to see it.
• 1:28:51
  So where do you guys rank Lewis?
• 1:28:52
  Let's just build a wall, homie.
• 1:28:53
  So of.
• 1:28:54
  So where would you rank Lewis on the grid right now?
• 1:29:00
  Everybody has equal cars.
• 1:29:01
  Oh man.
• 1:29:02
  So who's one?
• 1:29:03
  I think that's pretty obvious at this point.
• 1:29:05
  Max is one.
• 1:29:06
  Equal cars?
• 1:29:07
  Equal cars.
• 1:29:08
  I'm still taking Max just to his aggressive.
• 1:29:09
  Equal cars.
• 1:29:10
  I'm taking Max still.
• 1:29:11
  So who's two?
• 1:29:12
  I think his aggressiveness hurts him in equal cars.
• 1:29:15
  No, no, no, no.
• 1:29:17
  That doesn't make sense.
• 1:29:19
  Because he's going to be aggressive.
• 1:29:21
  I have no idea who to say who's two is.
• 1:29:24
  Really wants to take Charles.
• 1:29:27
  This is a no brainer boys.
• 1:29:29
  It's Lewis freaking Hamilton.
• 1:29:30
  But what is he doing this year?
• 1:29:33
  Right?
• 1:29:34
  But in a shitty car.
• 1:29:35
  It's a bad car.
• 1:29:36
  It's a bad car.
• 1:29:37
  100%.
• 1:29:38
  Not even that.
• 1:29:39
  Let's compare him with Russell.
• 1:29:40
  Look at him the last couple of years.
• 1:29:41
  He has started off every season the last two or three years in this car bad the start of
• 1:29:44
  the season.
• 1:29:45
  Has he?
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  Every single season.
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  The last three years when he hasn't won a championship.
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  Who, Lewis?
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  Yes.
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  He's been really, really rough.
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  And then he literally just has an upward trajectory the rest of the season for sure.
• 1:29:57
  I would agree with that.
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  He gets warm.
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  Knocks the rough stuff from last season.
• 1:30:02
  It's not the rough I don't think.
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  I think it's the car.
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  It's the upgrades.
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  I'm just feeling something different this year from a man.
• 1:30:08
  So right now, on the grid.
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  I'm not saying he's going to lose a spot on the grid anytime soon.
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  Like Tyler said.
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  Your top three drivers.
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  Ready?
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  Your top three drivers in the same car.
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  Who are they?
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  They're all in the same car.
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  Who's your top three drivers?
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  Lewis.
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  Okay.
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  I don't want to play this game anymore.
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  And Lando's at fourth.
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  He doesn't want to play it.
• 1:30:26
  What are you talking about?
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  Fourth?
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  It's Max.
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  I think it'd be pretty close.
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  I think Fernando's up there somewhere.
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  But not top three.
• 1:30:34
  I could tell you top four.
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  I don't know if I could.
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  Go ahead.
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  It's Max, LeClair, Lando, and Lewis probably.
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  So you've got Lando above Lewis.
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  In the top, in the same car.
• 1:30:43
  In the same car.
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  What are we talking about here guys?
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  Dude, he just has it.
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  Lewis, Fernando, LeClair, and Lando aren't even above Fernando.
• 1:30:53
  Yeah, yeah.
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  I agree entirely with Tyler.
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  It is Max.
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  Who'd you say?
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  Lewis.
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  Max, Lewis, and who's your third?
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  Fernando.
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  Oh, okay.
• 1:31:01
  Thank you.
• 1:31:02
  I thought you said Lando.
• 1:31:03
  No, no, no.
• 1:31:04
  I got Max, Lewis, Fernando, LeClair, Lando.
• 1:31:06
  Absolutely.
• 1:31:07
  And I think if you put them all in the same car, Max, Lewis, and Alonzo, because throw
• 1:31:12
  me off there saying Fernando.
• 1:31:13
  Throw me off that you're saying his first name, buddy.
• 1:31:18
  If you put them in the same car, I think those three are fighting for race wins every week.
• 1:31:23
  100%.
• 1:31:24
  Against each other.
• 1:31:25
  I don't think, I think LeClair might, LeClair, Lando.
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  Might podium or something.
• 1:31:28
  They pop in for podiums, but if you put them all in the same car, those three, I agree
• 1:31:32
  entirely with Tyler, those three are consistently, you're fighting for first.
• 1:31:36
  One of those three will get first every race of season.
• 1:31:39
  So Alonzo should just be in that second Red Bull seat then.
• 1:31:42
  I think it is one of the dumbest things Alonzo could do is sign a multiple year deal with
• 1:31:47
  Justin.
• 1:31:48
  I don't understand that unless it's simply for money.
• 1:31:50
  It ain't for legacy.
• 1:31:51
  I'll say Alonzo, Alonzo and Lewis in the same car as Max, give Max a run for his money at
• 1:31:56
  the driver standings.
• 1:31:57
  I would agree.
• 1:31:58
  And I would say Alonzo more so than Lewis, not because Alonzo's a better driver, because
• 1:32:02
  Alonzo will match Max's aggressiveness.
• 1:32:04
  They're kind of convincing me a little bit.
• 1:32:07
  That's fair.
• 1:32:08
  That's cool.
• 1:32:09
  Alonzo, yeah, because now I'm thinking about other drivers.
• 1:32:11
  Alonzo was just an incredible driver.
• 1:32:13
  He really is.
• 1:32:14
  He has been a lot of time.
• 1:32:15
  You can't disagree with me that Lewis's performance at the start of this year has not been good
• 1:32:20
  despite the car.
• 1:32:21
  100% I would agree with you.
• 1:32:22
  His teammates are not that much higher than him, but he's still better than him.
• 1:32:26
  But at the end of the year, like if we look at last year's just standings, right?
• 1:32:30
  So George was ahead of Lewis for the majority of the year and ended, Lewis ended up finishing
• 1:32:38
  five spots in front of him in the WDC.
• 1:32:41
  Lewis was third behind him.
• 1:32:42
  Lewis got third in the WDC last year in that car.
• 1:32:45
  Yeah.
• 1:32:46
  Well, the second half of the season, the Mercedes was, oh wait, was it getting better or was
• 1:32:51
  it getting worse?
• 1:32:52
  It was getting better, yes.
• 1:32:53
  It was getting better, but not crazy.
• 1:32:54
  But it was, I don't think it was getting, it wasn't reaching the levels that the Red
• 1:32:59
  Bull, the Ferrari, the McLaren would bring in terms of the upgrades.
• 1:33:03
  The only reason Lando finished as low as he did last year was simply because of the first
• 1:33:07
  half of the year.
• 1:33:08
  For sure.
• 1:33:09
  You know, you give Lando that car the whole year, he's finishing third or fourth.
• 1:33:12
  But if you give Lewis that car last year, he's still, you know, like.
• 1:33:16
  I don't see that change.
• 1:33:17
  I don't see Lewis's play changing.
• 1:33:18
  Let's have this same exact conversation after the season is over and see, and seeing where
• 1:33:24
  Lewis is because I am, I'm worried.
• 1:33:27
  I want Lewis, I want everything you guys want.
• 1:33:31
  I just don't know if it's going to happen.
• 1:33:32
  Lewis might end up fourth or fifth by the end of the year.
• 1:33:34
  What if Lewis is behind Russell by the end of the year?
• 1:33:36
  I also wouldn't be surprised by that because at the end of the day, Lewis knows that his
• 1:33:40
  time in Mercedes is done.
• 1:33:41
  He's going to put, he's going to try to get George in the best position he can to be propelled.
• 1:33:45
  Do you really think?
• 1:33:46
  I do.
• 1:33:47
  Lewis, Lewis, the thing about Lewis, man, he's never been like a self-centered, super egotistical,
• 1:33:51
  like it's all about me.
• 1:33:52
  He's always been a team guy.
• 1:33:53
  Now, Brandon has been in his favor.
• 1:33:55
  He may not be on the team next year, but what is the benefit of pushing Russell this year
• 1:33:59
  then if he can still get like good points?
• 1:34:03
  To set up Mercedes for success for the going forward.
• 1:34:06
  This is like, this is like with any football team that ever lived, all the great quarterbacks,
• 1:34:10
  all the great backups followed a great quarterback.
• 1:34:14
  All the great, all the great, everything fought.
• 1:34:16
  Like the reason that Lewis, I mean, the biggest role that Lewis is playing this year is for
• 1:34:20
  Russell.
• 1:34:21
  That's his only role this year.
• 1:34:22
  Is it mentor?
• 1:34:23
  They know they're not going to win races.
• 1:34:24
  They know they're not going to take.
• 1:34:25
  Yeah, they know that.
• 1:34:26
  They know that they're, they know they probably know they're not going to be top three in
• 1:34:28
  the constructors.
• 1:34:30
  So the only role that Lewis is playing for Mercedes this year is to help develop Russell
• 1:34:34
  even more to one day hold that driver's championship.
• 1:34:40
  I would agree with that.
• 1:34:41
  A hundred percent.
• 1:34:42
  We're going to leave it right there after starting that fire for Lewis going into Ferrari
• 1:34:45
  next year.
• 1:34:47
  And according to Joe and I probably not being in that top two driver conversation and allegedly
• 1:34:52
  the other side of the table is, is, is, is a different.
• 1:34:55
  So with that, unless you've, you've changed now.
• 1:35:00
  I'm I'm just, I don't know what to say.
• 1:35:03
  I don't know.
• 1:35:04
  I don't think I want to say it.
• 1:35:05
  I don't know what to say anymore.
• 1:35:06
  I just, I want to just caveat.
• 1:35:08
  I love Lewis to death, like Mercedes by far.
• 1:35:10
  I mean, arguably my second favorite team, like, and Lewis is the main, main point of
• 1:35:16
  that.
• 1:35:17
  I just, I don't, I don't know.
• 1:35:18
  I think he's lost a little bit of a spark.
• 1:35:19
  I don't know.
• 1:35:20
  I got a final point on this.
• 1:35:22
  Sure.
• 1:35:23
  And this is where I think it might just switch you right over to my side, our side.
• 1:35:27
  Okay.
• 1:35:28
  Sebastian Vettel.
• 1:35:29
  If you put him, that's a different conversation.
• 1:35:32
  No, it's not though, because if you put him in this, in any car in the same car as all
• 1:35:36
  these guys, he's still above a Clarenland.
• 1:35:39
  Okay.
• 1:35:40
  You lost me actually.
• 1:35:41
  Oh, why?
• 1:35:42
  You completely lost me.
• 1:35:43
  I think he could fight for a top six.
• 1:35:44
  But yeah, let's table that.
• 1:35:45
  Let's table that.
• 1:35:46
  You had me on your side calling, but I am off the.
• 1:35:51
  You lost me.
• 1:35:52
  Done.
• 1:35:53
  She's done.
• 1:35:54
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• 1:36:00
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• 1:36:03
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