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Raiders vs Broncos DFS Showdown | Week 10 TNF | NFL Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 3: Everyone?
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Tamberline here aka TOTEG and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 2: title here with me as always going to be breaking
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  Speaker 2: down all things Raiders at the Broncos and who Poop.
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  Speaker 2: I'll kick it to you first, big boys spread. We
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  Speaker 2: do have ship at games winners coming up soon, so
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  Speaker 2: stick around for that. I think it was another head
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  Speaker 2: to head win for you this past week.
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  Speaker 4: Hoop Right.
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  Speaker 2: Seven and two now is what we got it up to.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, back on track after a couple of losses. Feels good.
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  Speaker 3: It was a tough battle, I mean, but ended up
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  Speaker 3: winning by twenty or so. So back on track. I
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  Speaker 3: can get, you know, kind of talking that cocky manner
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more. Seven and two the the over
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  Speaker 3: unders on the rise and you know, looking to get
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  Speaker 3: back on a streak, you know, after a two game
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  Speaker 3: losing streak, and in regards to the game tonight, I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's you know, a big, big spread here. I mean
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  Speaker 3: ten ten point favorites. The Broncos are. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think everyone still is a little nervous of these
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  Speaker 3: Thursday games because we've seen so many of these favorites
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  Speaker 3: get busted on Thursday Night. This one, I just there's
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  Speaker 3: just no way I can be worried about it. I
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  Speaker 3: mean I just don't see the Broncos struggling here against
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  Speaker 3: the Raiders. Raiders obviously made a trade this week, you know,
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  Speaker 3: trading Chacobi Myer. Uh, and uh yeah, I mean they're
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  Speaker 3: they're just not a very good team. Had an overtime
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  Speaker 3: loss as well to the Jaguars, so overtime loss, and
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  Speaker 3: then quick turn around to Thursday Night football. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos are in a good spot, and we will
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  Speaker 3: talk about how that applies for DFS obviously throughout the
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  Speaker 3: show here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, before I go to title, I do got to
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  Speaker 2: bring this up because this man has been waiting since
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  Speaker 2: Monday to talk to you. I guarantee it. There was
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  Speaker 2: a favorite they got beat last week, and your Detroit
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  Speaker 2: Lions lost to those Minnesota Vikings. So what do you
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  Speaker 2: got to say to Danny?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is funny. I was been here watching well,
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  Speaker 3: I guess I don't know if it's funny. I sent
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  Speaker 3: here watching the game, I was like, wow, this is
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  Speaker 3: really pathetic on the part of the Lions. You know,
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  Speaker 3: Missus Hoop was watching it too. I think you know,
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  Speaker 3: the kids were, so I mean it was a family
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  Speaker 3: affair watching the Lions get their ass kicked. And after
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  Speaker 3: the game was over, it is funny, I will say
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  Speaker 3: to Daniy. It's one of the first things I thought of.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I owe I owe Danny from from
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  Speaker 3: the YouTube Chata in apology every time. I absolutely go
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  Speaker 3: in on his team and sit on them. They just
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  Speaker 3: punched me right in the face, and that is what happened.
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  Speaker 3: So I take the l and an apology to our guy, Danny.
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  Speaker 3: You know I got that one wrong. And your biking,
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  Speaker 3: your bikings look better and beat the shit out of
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  Speaker 3: the line, So congratulations.
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  Speaker 2: I talked shit on JJ McCarthy too, and he just
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  Speaker 2: owned it. And we've all been there. Titles made some
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  Speaker 2: of those hoops definitely made the best one ever. Someone
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  Speaker 2: brought it up just a few weeks ago again on
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  Speaker 2: Hoops Call that week, and Buddy just went and broke
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  Speaker 2: the slate on his head. After that it was incredible.
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  Speaker 2: But title, I'll go to you, man, We've got a
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  Speaker 2: Broncos game, big, big favorites at home. I know it's
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  Speaker 2: a big survivor week for you and many others that
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  Speaker 2: are looking into it. So what's your your feeling here man,
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  Speaker 2: coming into the Thursday night game?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, a big nine and a half point favorites, the
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  Speaker 5: biggest time for the biggest of the week right now,
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  Speaker 5: Like who mentioned a short week for both, But I
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  Speaker 5: mean going to Denver tough place to play, traded Jacobi Meyers.
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  Speaker 5: At least brock Bowers is healthy. I mean, if you're
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  Speaker 5: a Raiders fan, you have that to look forward to.
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  Speaker 5: I think they made the right call putting them on
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  Speaker 5: the shelf for two weeks or whatever. He clearly wasn't
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  Speaker 5: fully hell healthy and then just nooped. But man, you
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  Speaker 5: gotta think this Denver defense tries to take him away.
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  Speaker 5: Gino leads the league in interceptions. Yeah, probably have their
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  Speaker 5: ears pinned back for most of this game here. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: DFS wise though, the nine and a half point favorites, like,
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  Speaker 5: you're gonna see five ones, you're gonna see four twos.
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  Speaker 4: It's no secret when you're looking that.
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  Speaker 2: W Yeah, and we just saw brock Bowers come off
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  Speaker 2: a massive game, so at least that's someone interesting. We
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  Speaker 2: kind of know what the four two's are gonna have
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  Speaker 2: in there, and then some of the five ones that
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  Speaker 2: go to you grand scheme overview. When it comes to
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  Speaker 2: this game. You guys both mentioned a little bit about
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  Speaker 2: the trade. Reminds me a little bit of the other night.
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  Speaker 2: With these wide receiver rooms, we're just gonna be going
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  Speaker 2: around in circles of this could be this, could be this,
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  Speaker 2: could be this. But that worked out pretty good on
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  Speaker 2: that slate. There was a two way chop or whatever
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  Speaker 2: for one hundred and sixty five thousand, so you know
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  Speaker 2: that can happen again tonight. That's the nice part of it.
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  Speaker 2: But what's your thoughts on this game and how you
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  Speaker 2: see a plan out?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to also add on I mean
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  Speaker 5: college football, they have slates pretty much every single day
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  Speaker 5: Macchin on Tuesday Wednesday. I've been starting to dive in.
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  Speaker 5: College football is fun, and I mean Hammock's one of
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  Speaker 5: the best in the world. Dollar Bill works as hard
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  Speaker 5: as possible. Smart, he's in there dropping stuff. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean if you want, you got to kind of
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  Speaker 5: be around your computer. But if you want another sport
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  Speaker 5: to add into your portfolio, college football NHL is definitely
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  Speaker 5: fun over there, So I mean Thanksgiving football, and we
• 9:48
  Speaker 5: get that those slates are massive, A lot of great
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  Speaker 5: slates I had there, so what a deal As far
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  Speaker 5: as yeah, captains and stuff. I mean I mentioned the
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  Speaker 5: five to one, four to two is Denver builds will
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  Speaker 5: be very popular. Or bo Nix is the most popular
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  Speaker 5: captain on the slates. The nice thing with him is
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  Speaker 5: you did mention like there's multiple receivers kind of just
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  Speaker 5: one tight end maybe too, but like R. J. Harvey
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  Speaker 5: a running back that can catch passes, but mainly bo
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  Speaker 5: Nix has been running a little bit. If you look
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  Speaker 5: at his game log rushing touchdown upside plus three forty
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  Speaker 5: rushing prop of twenty and a half. So when I
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  Speaker 5: do play him up top, I definitely probably want at
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  Speaker 5: least one pass catcher prefer two threes in play. But
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  Speaker 5: if he runs it in that can definitely change a
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  Speaker 5: lot on the slate, and he has that opportunity, So like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna eat the chalk there at captain. But I
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  Speaker 5: also like the JK Dobbins. I'm good with Harvey as well,
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  Speaker 5: but Dobbins just leverages so much. Sutton will be like
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  Speaker 5: ten percent. Bo Nix I think can approach the twenty
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  Speaker 5: mark kind of like we talked about on Thursday, just.
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  Speaker 4: Devan Gavante zonovid night. It didn't work for either of them.
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  Speaker 5: But if Dobbins does fall in the box twice or
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  Speaker 5: something like that, he's the leading touched on prop on
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  Speaker 5: the slate at minus one oh five. They're big favorites
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  Speaker 5: at nine and a half if they take the air
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  Speaker 5: out of the football and they rely on him like
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  Speaker 5: bo Nicks chalk and other stuff. Buff So I like
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  Speaker 5: the builds Dobbins gives me. I like bo Nicks, like
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  Speaker 5: I mentioned, probably just really Sutton after that, and then
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  Speaker 5: I will be more overweight on Raiders captains than probably
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  Speaker 5: most people are thinking, like I'm gonna play genty. I
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  Speaker 5: know the spot's not great with the price and all that,
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  Speaker 5: but still second on the slate for a touchdown at
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  Speaker 5: plus one twenty five. If they do stay competitive, I
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  Speaker 5: think they're gonna need to get him a lot of touches.
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  Speaker 5: I'm fine playing just I mean seven to eight percent
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  Speaker 5: for a guy as good as Genty and find getting
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  Speaker 5: overweight there. Trey Tucker I mean, and now slides into
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  Speaker 5: wide receiver one without Jakobe, big play guy, kind of
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  Speaker 5: cheaper than these bon Nix's Genty's, Bowers a little different
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  Speaker 5: build there. So I'm fine with Trey Tucker and then
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  Speaker 5: probably some rock powers. But I mean, man, I'm seeing
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  Speaker 5: we have him at like sixteen seventeen percent. If that's
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  Speaker 5: the case, that feels a little hot for me. As
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it feels like the Broncos one thing that
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  Speaker 5: they're going to do, take away their best player and
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  Speaker 5: Bowers make all these other bumps speach you. Thender feels
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  Speaker 5: smart enough to do that. So at that ownership, I'm
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  Speaker 5: actually a little worried about Bowers.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you nix out brock Bauers up top and go
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  Speaker 2: with bo Nicks more lineups. That's a possibility as well.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's a great breakdown because you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're pretty aligned to already just start things off, and
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  Speaker 2: I like that call. I think it's it makes for
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  Speaker 2: a good slate when we have those opportunities, And like
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  Speaker 2: you said, if someone's oh this is not I mean Denver,
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  Speaker 2: there's no way GENTI could be the guy. We've seen
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  Speaker 2: it a million times, Like even the season already there
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  Speaker 2: was a giant slate where rip scat in my chain now,
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  Speaker 2: but the night that he was captain up top ended
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  Speaker 2: up being the optimal and it was like that was
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  Speaker 2: a slate there was no way it could be him
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  Speaker 2: up top and ended up just crushing it. We've seen
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  Speaker 2: a couple others as well, So Whoby'll kick it over
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  Speaker 2: to you. Anything you want to add to that or
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  Speaker 2: anything else you're seeing differently with the slate, Yeah, just.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of struggle. I mean, it's it's it's pretty call
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  Speaker 3: from a standpoint of identifying who you want to play
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  Speaker 3: in the captain. Like we know the plays over all,
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  Speaker 3: the guys that are appealing, but to say like these
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  Speaker 3: are my captain, it's pretty pretty difficult. Like bow Knicks
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  Speaker 3: is the obvious one and he'll be owned, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: fine with it just because of how many different ways
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  Speaker 3: you can play him. There's so many guys to pair
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  Speaker 3: him with in so many different combinations where to me,
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  Speaker 3: the ownership really doesn't matter all that much because you
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: can build solid, not unique teams, but less dupe teams
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  Speaker 3: with with bo Nicks because of all the options. I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm good with Bowers. I like, I want Bowers. I'll
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  Speaker 3: probably be overweight on Bowers just because the strength of
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  Speaker 3: the Denver defense is that defensive line, and the way
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  Speaker 3: to beat that is to get the ball out quick,
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  Speaker 3: and I think they're just gonna be They're going to
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: be forced to get the ball out quick. And if
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  Speaker 3: you're getting the ball out quick, it's typically to the
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  Speaker 3: tight end. So I'm good with the Bower stuff there.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have as much interest in Gentee. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's still going to be probably I don't know, tenni
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  Speaker 3: ish percent owned, so I mean he is probably like
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  Speaker 3: the third highest Stone captain. I don't love it. If
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  Speaker 3: I build my team then I get some I'm fine
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  Speaker 3: with it. I struggle with Sutton too, Like Sutton just
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  Speaker 3: has not had the monstrous games that you really need.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he had one Week three, but he had
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  Speaker 3: twenty six Fantasy points. But outside of that, like he
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  Speaker 3: has not had the ceiling games. Like I'll include him
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  Speaker 3: in the pool, don't love him, probably like Dobbins over him.
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  Speaker 3: Like that's one way to kind of get off all
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  Speaker 3: of the stuff is just to play like Dobbins and
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  Speaker 3: hope they get a lead and pound him. I think
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: people will chase the RJ. Harvey big game, and you
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  Speaker 3: know that's totally fine. But you know, just look at
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  Speaker 3: what Harvey specifically did last week, Like he carried the
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  Speaker 3: ball twice, right, carried the ball twice and had five
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: catches for fifty one yards and found the end zone.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: But the concerning thing is too rush attempts. So I mean,
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: to me, it's like the backfield clearly belongs to Dobbins.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: So I don't really love Harvey all that much. He's
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: getting a little bit ownership, like the Trey Tucker thing. Blah.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: So I guess, you know, for captains for me, like Nick's, Bowers, Dobbins,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: I think are like the three fine with having some
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Sutton And then oh, Troy Franklin's other guy wanted to
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: add into the mix. I mean, no, Marvin Mims tonight.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: I guess that's kind of pretty big news. And that's
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: the reason why some of this Bo Nicks captain stuff
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: can get a little bit unique or a little bit
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: different because we have more options added into the mix.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: It we'll talk about when we get to flex. But
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Troy Franklin's already had a pretty big role, like he's
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: been one of the main dudes, one of the main targets,
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: and now Mims is out. I mean the targets for
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Troy Mims ten eight, ten, like last huh.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: You're missing out on miss at Troy Mims. I'm just
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: laughing because it's like we want you want.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, well yeah, you know what I meant. But
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Troy Franklin for sure at you know, he's eleven four
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: up top and twenty eight targets in the last three weeks.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Definitely interested in him as well. So it is a
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: tough slight though for Cap. And I will say I
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: like that call.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: That was definitely one that I had in mind as well.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: So I think that's another way to get different the
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: bon Nick spot. Someone asked title, I'll use this as
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: a segue because you can talk about quarterbacks into running backs.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: We want to add any further, but I think this
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: is a thought. It looks like Nick is just going
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: to be way way higher owned up top.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's just so many different there's more ways,
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: like it is a two k different. But we have
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: some salary below like Harvey's in the mix or some
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: other running backs rotating in you play next for sure, Yeah,
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: I think it just I always have my cash report
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: and stuff for the site for all members of so
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: I did just put that up too.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Oh perfect. Yeah, So that there you go, and that's
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: what I'd expected. But there's so many values when we
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: get there to these other positions title. I know you
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: mentioned a little about Genty already, who mentioned a good point.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: I think people are, you know, with the interesting thing
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: is like Harvey versus Franklin, it's a thousand bucks more.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: It looks like Franklin's getting a little more ownership, but
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: not by that much when you're talking flex and the
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: thought is like people are definitely still gonna be going
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: after the Harvey stuff, some of the coach speak I
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: saw posted out there, things like that. But Franklin really
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: has been a guy that's involved plenty already and now
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: you know, even more so possible. So what's your thoughts
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: on the quarterbacks and then you can take it into
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: running back as well with Harvey, Genty and the rest.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Dobbins.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I do like that, Troy for Eklin shout
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: as well the Harvey stuff. Well, quarterbacks, like I don't
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: really have much interest in Gino at at captain.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Again, I always rely on you for
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: that stuff.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: It feels like, if he fully gets there, I'm hoping
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: it's all through Bowers or Trey Tucker gets a long
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: one and it's him you need.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: But it's not impossible to.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: See him throwing three touchdowns of three different guys and
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: one of them's in garbage time. I mean he's low
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: owned enough, were mate, like I wouldn't exit out of
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: my portfolio.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Do you have any thoughts there quick before I continue?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, for sure, I think you know that's the
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: It's mainly just because of the Bowers. I don't know
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: what you want to call it, like the I don't
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: want to be negative aout it because I'm the one
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: that always says that, like, he doesn't need to get
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: us three touchdowns, He doesn't need to have a huge
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: forty something point game tonight, especially on short on which
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: is obviously true. But I think if I'm not going
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: to be as high on him, I would want to
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: have Geno Jent Tucker. Like I'm good with those captains
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: on that side, even if it's a two four. The
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: other thing about Geno is if he does again, not always,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: but if he does use his legs a little bit
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: or something like that, that hurts Genty, that hurts Bowers,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: if he like sneaks a touchdown in and then maybe
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: he throws one to somebody else later and then it's
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: just the way you set it up. On the other side,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: it can still very easily happen. We've also seen Geno
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: be part of classic Millimaker wins when they lose by
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: twenty plus or something, so it's like, can they stay
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: in the game enough. It's possible you get crushed two
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: But those lineups are all going to end up more
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: popular anyway, So it's like, I would rather be on
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: the opposite side of that. I think when you have Genty, Tucker,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Jack Beck and Dante Dante, Thorton bauers Meyer, even like,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of options that he can throw to
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: you here, and that's kind of the perfect storm for
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: what I would want to at least consider. Obviously, on
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: the Knick side, it's easy to say, yes, that one's done.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: But on the Geno side, I do have some interest, yes, yeah,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: And I mean.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: If they're down seventeen in the fourth quarter, and like
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: he just goes and pounds in a garbage time touchdown
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: like that counts for the same I could see it
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: getting there as well. We know teams kind of let
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: their foot off the gas or play more zone and
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: prevent the deep Allso yeah, I don't mind Gino there
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: running backs. The thing I am worried about, like you
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: guys keep saying. I mean, people can just click on
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Harvey's game log. His price fits a lot and just
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: look like a smash, but the props aren't great, Like
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: he's still splitting. So he's plus two to twenty to score,
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: which is fine, but we know it's always robbery. Troy
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Franklin's plus one sixty five if you're comparing that, And
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: then Harvey is the twenty two and a half rushing
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: prop and that's sixteen and a half receiving prop. So
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: I'm a little worried there. I definitely prefer in the
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: flex then the captain. You can play Dobbins and RJ
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: Harvey together, like they can both get in the box
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: today people don't when they handbuild, they won't click that
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: as much.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: But I don't love Harvey. What have we got him?
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: Twenty one percent in the flex. If anything, I think
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: we're a little low. I could see that get a
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: little steam, but yeah, I mean I'm fine getting around that.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: I don't want to make a strong stance genty. I
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: think I prefer in the captain and the flex. Obviously
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: I'll still play some. It's a portfolio, but I either
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: want him to fully get there with two touchdowns and
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: leverage everything or not as much. And then Dobbins is
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: my favorite running back I think on both sides, just
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: for the censor nine and a half point favorites. They
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: leverages off of the bo Nicks captain stuff. So when
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: fading Bonnicks, playing Dobbins makes a lot of sense. Even if,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: like in the flex, if he rushes one touchdown, believing
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: chance on the slate at minus one twenty five twelve
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: could be enough there and you can still do a
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: lot of different stuff.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: So that's probably it.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: Like this Battye guy, he's mixing in a little bit
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Tyler Baddie, but it's like a one to fifty play
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: if anything, Yeah, who.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Do you want to add anything else at quarterback? Or
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: then you can go running back as well.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I do think the Geno Smiths stuff is interesting and
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: if I was going to add another person to the captain,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I think it might be him. And you touched on
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: something that I was kind of thinking about earlier, the
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: fact that man Gino does have an ability to get
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: there in garbage time. There's like some quarterbacks that just
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: can't do it or don't do it. Gino is definitely
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: one that can do it, and even in like tougher spots,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: he's proven that. So I think he's a good talking
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: point because you get a quarterback that's probably pretty low
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: owned up there. Do you have on hand what we're showing,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: because I don't have it up here.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: So get it's like four or five, it could be
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: like five.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: You're getting a quarterback that does have a little bit
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: of rushing upside as well. So yeah, I like that.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I like that call a little bit to add him.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: And either way, even if you don't like him up
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: top like nine K in the flex, I think it's
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: a fine option. Like his his floor I think is
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: relatively high, and the nine K even if he goes
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: and gets like fourteen or fifteen fantasy points, that could
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: be one of This could be one of those games
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: where that's like good enough in the flex so I
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: think he's fine, and definitely think he's if it depends
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: how many captains you're playing, if you're playing, how many
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: teams you're playing, if you're playing a lot of teams,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I don't hate adding him in. Kind of agree with
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: title though. On the running back stuff, especially R J. Harvey.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I think people are going to see that and they're
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: just gonna want to play it because of the big week.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: They're going to look at the game line. But I
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: just can't get out of my head that he rushed
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: the ball twice and the props are what combined the
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: yardage of thirty five. Andy has a price tag where
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: we need him to do something, and yeah, he could
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: could do it, but man, I don't know. I'd struggle
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: with him. I already said I don't like gent all
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: that much at the ten to two tag, So like,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: for me, it's gonna be a lot of Dobbins. I
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: like Dobbins, I like the price, I like the spot.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: He is their primary running back, and then like the
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: backup dudes like I have pretty much no interest. Like
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: when we get to wide receiver and tight end, it's loaded,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: I mean loaded up with value, loaded up with underpriced
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: guys like I just want to play all those dudes
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: over Mostert or Battie, Like, I just have very limited
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: interest in playing any of those guys. So really, for me,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: like the only guy I see myself being overweight on
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: at the running back spot is going to be Dobbins,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: and I actually feel really good about it, to be
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: honest with you, So kind of where I'm at.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I got to play the Tyler's on this slate, but
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: if there's gonna be there might be some five ones.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And there's another Tyler that was just mentioned the chat.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Later they did go and pick up Tyler Lockett for
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the Raiders. We'll get to wide receiver in a second,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: but I will say that if it's like a five
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: to one tonight and I'm building it and leaving like
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: six grand on the table, I'm fine. Like if I
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: take a Franklin team down to I think it's like Bidet,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: isn't it, even though it's like looks like Baddie, but
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: it's I think it's Tyler Bodet. But I'm saying if
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I take it down to that, I'd be fine with
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: it if it makes sense. And if I'm not on Dobbins,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not on Harvey. Maybe I do it differently that way,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: and it's like maybe he gets something in garbage time
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: instead of it being bands will make them dance Michael
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Bandy or Troutman or some of these guys that you're
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: just gonna, you know, forever be trying to figure out
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: versus I don't know. I guess Jack Jack Beck is
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: the one that's gonna come up here in a second.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: But Title, I'll go to you on wide receiver. And
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: while it's uncertain on who will need of this wide
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: receiver roulette, one thing that is certain is there is
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: no certain tonight again. So maybe that's another opportunity for
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Gino and the pass catchers and the wide receiving corps.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people are just immediately going
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: to the Bowers thoughts when we get to tight end.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: But there is Tucker, there is Jack Beck. There is
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the rookie Thornton Junior. There is Tyler Locket who they
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: just picked up. Good luck. But I'll let you roll
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: first on this stuff. What do you think is gonna
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: happen here on that side? And then take over the
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Broncos as well.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's so gross on the Raiders side, like, I
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: really only have interest in Trey Tucker. Not again, I'm
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Tyler Lockett will get some of my builds. Jack Bash
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: will get some of my builds. But we're looking at
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: a receiving prop for Lockett of fifteen and a half
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: and thirteen and a half for Jack Besh, Like that's
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: really really bad. And then we have Thornton down there,
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: who I mean, man, it was really disappointing in the
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: sense of he was supposed to have a big role,
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: like coming into week one as the wide receiver three
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: next to Tucker and Myers, and just that completely went away.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: So I don't mind if you want to take a
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: shot for him for really cheap at twelve hundred, but
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: I truly like it's it's Trey Tucker for me. And
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: he seems a little overpriced at seven K, but I
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: want that. Like he actually has rapport with Gino, big
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: play guy fast forty four and a half receiving prop
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: on this late which is the second best or third best,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: excuse me, tied with Troy Franklin. Like these other guys,
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: like we'll get to Michael may or brock Bauers. I mean,
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: those guys are essentially wide receiver, one wide receiver three, Like,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: it's not Jack Bash, it's not Thornton. Lockett's as dusty
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: as it gets. So I don't like that side. And
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: then the other side, Denver. I mean, yeah, I'm playing
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: plenty of bow Knicks teams when I'm playing it, Like,
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: I like Troy Franklin, I like Sutton, I like Pat
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: Bryan's after that, though probably not much so. Yeah, Trey
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: Tucker by far my favorite. Then I like the Broncos guys,
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: and yeah, I mean Bash Lockett. They're gonna have to
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: make some teams because they're on the field. But I
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: don't like it by any means.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: What about this? What lack of kid? Doesn't he get
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: all the chemistry in the world with Tyler Lockett? I
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: thought those guys played together.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I mean Lockett. Lockett might be
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: stone cold dust right now.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I mean he did. I will say in his defense,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: I'm fairly certain he got a red zone target last week,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: So I mean three k red zone red zone target?
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Who plays somewhere you go I'm playing.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely in on some Lockett. I'm not gonna lie. Definitely,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: In reunited baby, reunited. That's what it was.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: So hey, let's bring it all back. We'll bring back
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: the Millie team. Got Gino, got Tyler Lockett or anyone
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: else as part of that squad that I can throw
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: into the mixt seal. Let's see. Nope, that's gonna that's
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: gonna do it right there.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: So this this is interesting. Actually, this guy thundered Dan,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I follow it.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: He said.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: It's not an official recommendation. Everyone makes their takes, so wherever,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I'll give him credit for a saying because I'm just curious.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: He said, like this, because Tyler, we always look at
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: the props. He said, the receptions are super low at
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: one point five. This for Jack bash Beck, whatever you
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: want to call him, yardage at twelve and a half.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: It's now up to thirteen and a half. I saw
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: the same. But he says, brock Bauers will surely be
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: targeted a ton, But in a game where Gino Smith
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: likely us to throw it forty times, there's like no competition.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Trey Tucker a five eight slot receiver, Tyler Lockett a
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: thirty three year old five to ten slot receiver. Thornton
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: a rookie with five career catches. So where I mean
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the forty times. If he does, I believe that you
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: can definitely throw forty times today. Where's that ball going?
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: That's the tricky part, right, And I think Bauer's stuff
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: is inflated after last game? Are they? I don't know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: If they throw it to him twenty times tonight, I'd
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: be crazy, But it's possible.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Well how many how many defenders does Denver have out
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: there at one given time? We got eleven, so there's
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: there's eleven other guys out there that the ball could
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: potentially go to.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm with you, but I say that as
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: a joke. But I'm I'll kind of hop in.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be overweighting on probably all the all
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: the Vegas pass catchers, because like, why not, like the ball,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: he is going to throw the ball, he'll chuck it,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: and like, it can't just be all Rock Bowers or
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: mayor like someone else on the squad is going to
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: get an opportunity. Is it Lockett, is it Back? Is
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: it Thornton Junior? I don't know, but I'll play them
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: all and hopefully land on the right combination. Like no
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: one knows, Like nobody knows. Maybe maybe it is Thornton
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Junior at twelve hundred. Maybe they're like, all right, you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: going into the preseason, we thought this guy, or going
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: to the season, we thought this guy was gonna have
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: a role. He hasn't had the opportunity. Maybe tonight he
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: gets the opportunity. I'm playing all of them. They're fine.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: And this Lockett someone I'm fairly certain I saw it
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: and then someone in the chilill be able to pick
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: up on it quick. But I'm pretty sure Lockett got
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: a red zone target last week, which is absolutely insane.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: But if it happened, it could happen again. So I'm
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: in on all those guys. With the Denver it's pretty clear,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: you know, Sutton Troy Franklin's definitely my favorite, probably my
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: favorite pass catcher, and he's gonna have some ownership. Fine
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: with that. And then this Pat Bryant guy at what
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: thirty two hundred another option. So I mean, there's a
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: ton of different ways to go with wide receiver, but
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I will embrace the volatility. I guess that the Vegas
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: guys a little bit here tonight.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Yep, one red zone target, Tyler Lockett.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: There you go, thank you.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Yep, there it is yeah, the guy chat shout out
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the stat He also said this today. Man, this could
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: become a thing tonight as well, And I don't think
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: this is a I mean, yeah, they can do different
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: different things to try and cover it, but we just
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: saw it. I'm not even trying to compare the two
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: different positions whenever two big ass dudes that are good
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: at football, Jamar Chase and him. But like, if a
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: team wants to throw twenty times to their guy, they
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: can do it, and that's definitely a possibility, and that
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: you won't be able to cover it every single time
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: and then that happens. So yeah, again, people will be
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: shocked and appalled if somehow brock Bowers just goes off
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: again tonight. It's he doesn't eat a half the forty
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: three per point performance to get him up top with
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: sixty something points. It's like he can definitely just have
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: his good game tonight and still be in the mix.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: And that's fine. But I think just people are so
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: high on these Broncos five ones and four twos that
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: obviously it makes like, oh, I'll just play brock Bowers
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: in the flex and I'll be good. So I don't know, well,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: have to see that number goes up or down by
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the time we get to lock But title sticking with
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: that stat just mentioned Michael Meyer, we're just past Halloween.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: That's we've been waiting for. So he still got his
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: costume on. Maybe come out and play, but you got
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: brock Bowers, you got Evan Ingram, and then you got
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: some some backup options there. What's your thoughts on this?
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I like Mayor quite a bit, and he
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: has the second highest or third highest receiving prop on
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: the Vegas stuff at I believe it was, Yeah, twenty
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: five and a half. Again, that's Lockett fifteen and a half,
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: Best thirteen and a half, So I think it is
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Mayor is a top three target, especially if they're under
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: pressure pressure and it if you think Denver takes away Bowers,
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: I mean that's your safety blanket.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: So I like him.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: At ownership, I like Evan Ingram, I like Brock Bowers,
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: and then Troutman like I can go and build any
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Lockett team who's three k dropped on from Lockett to Troutman.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: I'd just say fourteen hundred not as much with Best
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: to Troutman, but it's still four hundred bucks.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: They look all the same to me.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: I mean Troutman what seven and a half receiving prop
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: not very good there, but he's plus four to fifty
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: to score, whereas you look at Lockett and Best plus
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: one thousand plus twelve hundred more. Just big boy stuff
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: in the at the goal line and you play action.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: If you go bow Nicks up top and Troutman there,
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: that's a way to get a chalky bow Nicks team different,
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: easier to leave money. He actually outsnapped Ingram last week.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: Again more blocking stuff, but I think I prefer Troutman
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: and it's close. It's not a hot, strong lean, but
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: I think I preferred Troutman in the savings a little
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: bit to the best Locket stuff. But yeah, I like
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: the tight ends today.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's why I know. I like you said too,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: and be him being out there also, like from the
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: previous it was, you know, you guys talked a little
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: but the Pat Bryant option there, so you know those
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: red zone targets and he's got some of those as
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: well too, so that that's an interesting spot. Based on
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: the other stuff that the chat's talking about, who having
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: the smallest bladder on the planet. He said very true.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: He's self admitted on that one for sure. Yes, I
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: don't have add at tight end hoop, but I don't
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: know if you want to tack onto it. I've had
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: a couple of brock Bowers chats. I've had the Michael
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Meyer talks, the Halloween jokes, the Evan Ingram stuff. Is
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: there anything you've got to add here at the tight
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: end position?
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Not too much. I mean I do think they're really
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: good plays. I mean, the majority of these guys, And
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to, yeah, like Michael Mayer at Ownership
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: might be the best, one of the best plays on
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: the slate if this holds true, Like where he is
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: showing up, we got him at like we have him
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: at ten, Saber has him at thirteen. I was to
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: say somewhere between ten and fifteen percent. I think he's
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: a really really strong option. Like he's probably wide receiver too,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: and like he can do a lot out there, and
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: he has a connection already with the quarterback. I mean,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: some of these other pass catchers that we talked which
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I am playing like, they don't have the connection that
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: he already has with Mayor. And I think he could
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: have a really big game. So he stands out as
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: a very very strong option. I hope that ownership remains true,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: and I think it will, just because there's a lot
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: of different guys to play. Bauer's already talked about him.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I think Ingram is fine, and then you know, I'll
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: play some Troutman as well, so like these dudes, but
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Mayor definitely stands out to me as a very strong
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: play Wnufactor in ownership tonight.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the other thing, I'm just thinking it
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: through now some of the other stuff now we talked
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: for a lot of the basis title is like with
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: the roster construction, I definitely think there's some pretty good
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Denver five ones that leave like five thousand dollars on
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: the table that again, people just won't do that naturally.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: And I can tell you and you probably still aren't
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: gonna go do it. Many people out they're like, I
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: just can't click it. I just gotta jump this guy up.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: But I honestly feel like when you're talking about all
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: these options, at least on the Broncos side, like even
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the Troutmann stuff, the Ingram, the Bryants, the you know,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: the options, you have to go there. Everyone to use
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: cheaper running backs or whatever it is. There's definitely options
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: just to leave it and then to the other side
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: you just say, okay, we've made cases for Bowers, Tucker, Gino, whatever.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: But who's to say it's not like a you know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: a Meyer is all you need or something like that,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: and that ends up being like I have all the
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: good dudes from Denver that I can possibly have. I'm
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: not eating the RJ. Harvey hype in this example, I
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: got all the Raiders I want and just instead of
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Trey Tucker, I'm just gonna drop it down to Michael
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Meyer and call it a day. And that's not quite
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: that's it's like four forty two hundred, But I'm just
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: saying it maybe you didn't need it all. On the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: other side, that's almost five grand left on that build.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know if Usually on
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: these slates is what I was trying to say, then
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: I'll kick it to you for any final thoughts, kickers ds,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: that type of stuff where we moveing over to who.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: But sometimes on these slates, I'm looking for reasons for
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: four two's and two four like all these other things.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: But she'll get into the portfolio. But one thing that
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: stands out is I think that if you think it's
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: gonna be what it is tonight, like most of us do,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I think there is still really good five to one
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: and four to two builds just based on roster construction
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: and style of build. And also if you're willing to
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: leave like the Harvey's and or the Bowers out of
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: some of these builds, that just makes it even better
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: for uniques or chance of less duplication. I'll kick it
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: to you.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: I think there's enough ways to play, even if you're
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: eating the chalk at bownexx Captain to get different and
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: builds like that leave money. I don't love Raiders five
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: to one by any means, but just looking at my
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: initial portfolio and I always build closer to lock. I
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: actually recommend most people on showdown slates too, just for
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: the fact that we saw was a Jayden Blue like
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: inactive on Monday, Like you just you shouldn't have built
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: before that, or if you did, you had to completely rebuild,
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: so you just never know what in active so you get.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I think four to two Raiders I'm probably
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: gonna be over the field with because I don't think
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: people are really gonna get there, especially Handbuilders. You're only
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: playing five or less teams, that's really hard to click
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: four Raiders instead of at least three and three. So yeah,
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: I'd be fine going that way. Fine five to one
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: leaving money Kickers defenses. They all look fine except Raiders Defense.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: I think they're clearly the worst play, but they'll also
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: be the lowest owned and one random play can do
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: a lot, but I won't have Munch there.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, it's not for everybody, but there's
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of times. This is my opinion, and what
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I see on the stuff is like usually I'm against
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: trying to go what the crowd's doing as well, but
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I do think tonight is different, just in breaking the
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: slate down. It's usually because if you're landing on the
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: five to one, you're landing on the same one as everybody.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: There are so many spots to get unique with it tonight,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Like somebody said, you can just leave Sutton, drop him
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: down to Bryant, like that is something that very easily
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: could happen on this slight. I think about this way,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: if Sutton doesn't get there early and they do get
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: up in this example of a five to one, you're
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: kind of looking for that route anyway. I'm not just
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: rout of the bild, but you're looking for rout of
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: the right raiders in the game. It's sometimes the person
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: just doesn't get there. There's just no need for them
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: later on, Like we don't need to be running Sutton
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: out and doing everything with him anymore. Let's get Pat
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Bryant some catches and all of a sudden they start
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: racking up and you're coming down the stretch and we've
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: been in the discord every time for this, or someone's like,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I just need Sutton. He ain't coming back out. He's
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: not gonna play anymore. They're up too much. You need someting,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: but he ain't coming back.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: So that's the way it goes sometimes. So I do
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: think it's it's more valid tonight than other nights. Even
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: if that's not how you see the game going, I
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: still think there's opportunity. Again, a five to one doesn't
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: always mean a blowout, just like a blowout doesn't always
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: mean a five to one if you flip it the
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: other way around, where it's like sometimes you see a
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: two to four or the other side or whatever it
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: might be.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: So hoop.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I'll kick it to you on the note of Kickers
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: and D's if you got anything to add there.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just it'll be the boring stuff for me.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: I mean definitely, I like the who is a Will Lutts?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: I like Will Lutts for sure, Fine with some Carlson,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: a little bit of red. Probably just gonna go Lots
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Denver d Carlston and then I'm I won't be playing
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: much Raiders defense. I mean, I don't know nothing, nothing
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: too crazy there. I think it's relatively straightforward. The prices
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: are let's see for the Lots Yeah, five k it's
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: you know, too cheap. And then Carlson. I don't love
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Carlson all that much. Let's look at Broncos D fifty
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: four showing ownership of we're showing twenty five. Saber has
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: like forty probably somewhere in the middle, probably thirty range,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: so probably underweight on on Broncos D. But Lots will
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: will definitely be a main play it.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: This got us on Monday too. Remember we were loud
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: the these are so low and the Kickers are more
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: owned and we'll see if this even happens. People like
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: to have their lineups up top early. Well, the lineups
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: are up top late. I'm not sure if you saw
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: that thing on FanDuel My god, I know for an outright,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: so congrats to them. That's insane. It was a hunter
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: k unique but it was both d's and then just
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: jamming everything else in around. It was wild with the
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: d at the captain or with.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: A great ending. I mean, man, they got the nut
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: run out with how all with that game ending. So yeah,
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, like we say it all the time, We're
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: not We're not going to burtend. It's a lot easier
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: to predict quarterbacks and running backs and all that than defense,
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: and even that's hard, so we yeah, I mean, any
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: defense any day.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's interesting too. Denver sometimes play down to
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: their competitions possible, and there's been a lot of people
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: shitting on bow Nicks lately too, So I'm wondering if
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be a little primetime action there. Just come
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: out and dunk on everybody and everyone will like turn
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: the clock back again. But it's like, it's not like
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: he's beating up on a strong opponent. It's a Raiders
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: team with a sixteen point team total on the road,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: so I get that, what was the other This made
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: me think of, oh, you know what else happened on
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: We're kind of getting the end anyway close to but
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: the we got ship of games winners coming up, by
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: the way, but the Monday night, I don't know who
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: was in it exactly. So it's not like I'm it
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: sucks what happens to anyone, but what happened to me
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: just the week before with the interception late there was
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of teams up there for like one hundred
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: and fifty K then ended up dropping and I think
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: everybody won fourteen k instead, like the big train from
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: behind with that last play of the game or the
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: last end the way the game ended. So man, in Showdown,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: you cannot chill until you could chill, and then even
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: then you got to sweat the stack corrections and get
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: that money in your account. So Discord taggers, bbware, it's
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: not over till it's actually over that.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: If you're not one the stomach that can stomach stuff
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: like that earlier ruin your day the next day and stuff.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: I mean, even me, I was talking a big game
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: and seeing two forty possibility with two it's hard on
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: the human brain. So maybe just don't. For for most
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: maybe it's just best not to look or just wake
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: up and hopefully see it. I mean, it's a wild
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: game we played.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I've had more success to the season when I just
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: wake up to it, so that'll tell you everything. Hoops
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: had a ton of success that way. We've had members
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: this past couple of weeks where it's like, oh, it's
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: nice to wake up to this, and you're like, damn,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Like that's definitely nice to wake up to that. So yeah,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: you see it sometimes, and it's just part of the game.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: It's not as bad as I think something like NASCAR,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: where you could be watching it still have no clue
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: what the hell's going on, and then a yellow flag
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: and whatever else is that, and the other you wait
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: for it, you think you won, and then it's still
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: stack corrects you. You're like, oh my god, this is brutal.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's sometimes the way it goes. Title Do
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: you have anything else you wanted to add on the
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: ending there? If not any, FanDuel looks that you've got.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: No nothing else to really add there. For FanDuel, they
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: actually did a good job pricing bow Nicks all the
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: way up to thirteen eight, where the next highest is
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: twelve two. With that being said, though there's still enough value,
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: it's still soft enough where he'll be the clear MVP.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: I mean he's rejected. I got him for like six
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: points higher than the next person, again with half point
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: instead of full point. PPR quarterbacks reigns running backs. Thereafter,
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: Bowers will get squeezed a little more, Like I said,
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: with the prioritizing of quarterbacks and some running backs. Him
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: being twelve k the third highest priced, I do think
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: he'll be a little low owned.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: R J.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: Harvey all the way up to seven to six.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: That's a big boy price tag relative to DraftKings. After that,
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: I don't think too much stands out. Let's see what
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: Hoop has to say.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Yeahop, what do you got to add?
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Not too much more. I mean you have the plthora
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: of cheap options, and they're all priced somewhere in that
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: that lower range. I'll stick with the Mayor thing, I
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: mean forty six, Like he's a little more expensive than
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: some of those cheaper guys on there. I definitely like
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: him equally on FanDuel and then the other things. Definitely
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Gino Smith like the scoring FanDuel scoring favors quarterbacks. He
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: is what eleven four, so you're looking at like a
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: twenty four undred dollar discount between him and bo Nix,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: and you can make a lot work with that money.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: So I like Gino definitely more on FanDuel, Definitely a
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: FanDuel MVP option. And you know, Troy Frank when we
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: talked about it, I think he's fine over here too.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's that's kind of it.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't say anything besides what you
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: guys mentioned like that stands out crazy, but you know,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: we'll have to see. It's kind of more. And we
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: update this throughout the night as well with the finals
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: of how do you see the MVP ownership going, because
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: we still have seen it where it condenses quite a
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: bit over there, even with the setup, and then you
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: get a slate like this where in the setup meaning
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: that how they changed everything this year to sort of
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: suit the DraftKings way, which I'm much happier with. I
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: think we all are, but just noting that it's still
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: on a site like this, we have a ton of
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: these value options, it will still condense up in the
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: MVP spot versus on DraftKings. We tend to see one guy,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: maybe two, and then it kind of drops off from
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: there as well, man, all all of our our good
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: friends over at the Nation. Sean says that the Super
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Bowl titles feel pretty good about that one. Sorry my friend,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: you know he likes that spot. And this was absolutely
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: one of the most brutal beats we saw. Maybe I've
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: had one of the most brutal I've ever seen if
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: you guys remember from last year. But it was a
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: thin I think Nick was up something like seven points, insane,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: like insane gap for Showdown. They came back, tie it up,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: it goes to ot and then he loses it. And
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: it was like late, late, late in the game. With
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: a huge Showdown lead, you just don't expect to lose.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: So we're sorry, Nick, you know it's you did. Just
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: tell me a text that would be reminiscent of that.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares where harder. But I do think it's part
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: of the game.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: That's like Johnny says, though Hoop loved the sweat Man.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: I showhoun's brutal, but I mean when it goes your way,
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: don't don't forget about those moments.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is for sure. All right, we
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: got the first winner. This is the Shipping Games head
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: to head winner for this week. This is Golden Ship
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: at number thirty. So I'm gonna bring up while we're here,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: and this is the head to head So Hoop's got
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: a seven to two record. You still have times to
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: get in the Ship of Games. We just talked about
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: it off the top of the show. We're gonna be
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: talking about it all weekend leading into it. But this
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: is the best deal. It was three ninety nine or
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: four to forty nine to start the season. We have
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: just crossed the halfway point of the regular season. Heading
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: into week ten. You are gonna get the remainder of
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: the regular season. You're gonna get all of the playoffs,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: the Thanksgiving, the alternate slates, all that stuff that we
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: we cover for the international games and whatnot for Showdown
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: at least, and then on the Super Bowl of course,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: the biggest Showdown slate of the year. And then you
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: also get college football, and you also get sabersim Included
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: with all that, you get the Ship of Games entry
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the season. Just everything you can
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: imagine comes with it. So one nine is the best deal,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: including Sabersim. That's for the rest of the season. Everything
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: we offer you get in the discord. Check it all out.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: If you want to upgrade it from there to an
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: all access you can let us know it'll be pro rated.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Get in that way. So the Winner is facing off
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: against Hoopster this week we have Bradley Transu. Bradley T
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: is getting the job done, number thirty of fifty, the
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: golden ship at Winner. Hoop You're gonna talk some smack
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: to you know, seven to two record. What's the over under?
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Now, I don't think I've ever heard a last name
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: even close to that before.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: That's an interesting Transuit. That's an interesting last name. Not
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: that it's going to matter anything, because I will be back.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: I'll be back on a winning streak after this week.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: We'll have two in a row on the record and
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: looking forward to it. You're going eight to eight and
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: two be eight and two after this, so yeah, best
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: of luck you will you will need it.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Sorry to Bradley Transo, but after week ten, hoop will
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: be eight and two. Apaul ge there it is all right,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: and number thirty one.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say this right now though, whoever wins
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: this ticket. Someone's got to step up to the damn play.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: This is getting this is getting sad, like we have
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: not come close to stiffing like someone needs whoever wins
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: his ticket? All right, put in the work and make
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: something happen this week, please please?
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree one thousand percent. I was gonna go
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: on a further ramp, but your boy Jason's in here.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: He said, Hey, I came close.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Who is who is the winner?
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: It was close, It was close. He put up a
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: good fight. But who the person that won last week?
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Like that is that was not acceptable?
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Right? All right?
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: That that we need it? We need something better than
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: whatever was put out last week.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: All right, Josh Allen, Josh Allen? Line up?
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh? What was it like a quadruple Josh allenstack
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: or something?
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: It was Alan Shakir kincaid.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: No, we can't do that.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: We can't do that.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Come on, we can't do that.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I think it had CMC and manunguy though, So I
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: was like, all right.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Hey, after you named three to four pass catchers with
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, it's over. We need better. We need better.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Sorry, mat who took you one? Had to cooke to
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: you cooking everyone right now.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, burning the house down.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the thing. Man. This is the fun one,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: and this is you know, it's frustrating. It's a fun game.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: We wanted to have this one. It's a share ship.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: It's like the person that wins is involved. They created
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: it's good to roll. But we haven't had a cash yet.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: And this is such an opportunity because the winner of
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: number thirty one in Chairship gets to play in the
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: five fifty five milli Maker with a shot at a
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: adding five hundred K to the prize pool to go
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: up to five seventy nine two hundred and sixty seven dollars.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: That's insane, and then another one hundred k for themselves
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: on top of propelling themselves into the finals with everything else.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: So we'll see. But the winner this week, who's got
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: to do a much better job after the Hoopster smash
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: the beatdown over there number thirty one of fifty Golden
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Ship at winner number thirty one is Michael Vilmo and man, Oopster,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: you like a good mo. Nobody likes a good mo
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: better than Hoopster. Over you get that lawn taking.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Care of Chris's looking at my first name with Mo
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: at the hand like we're talking. We're cooking something up
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: this week.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Oh man, it's a Michael Mayer mow down coming in
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: tonight to kick off the wheel. Oh man, that's so good.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Hoops first name and a mo Like again, I've been
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: to Hoops house. That lawn is pristine. You guys are
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: seen the pictures. It's nuts like he's definitely it's got.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: To be a good sign. I mean, this has to
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: be a good sign or we're just uh or we're
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: just done this. This has to be it.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Top eighteen. Yeah, top top end fertilizer on that lawn
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: I can tell you I did actually to hit on
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: the lawn stuff real quick, like I got a I
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: got a big issue over here, all right. I found
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: out I have grubs in the backyard, grubs and it's
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: ruining part of the lawn. So uh, not good. They're
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: definitely not good that. I mean you start, you pull
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: on the grass and just comes up and you see
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: these grubs. So made an emergency call to the fertilizer
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: company and they just they applied some anti gri ub
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: fertilizer this morning. So it's uh, it's trauma for for
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: hoops hoops lawn right now.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Man, I was trying to look it up. You got
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: me so fired up about lawns. You know, I've been
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: working on my Yeah, yeah, I actually got the Kentucky
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: bluegrass in my yard. That's what we got here. And
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: it's better than most. I will say. It's been solid.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: But I had some grubs. I had to go out
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: to the local hardware store. I had to buy the
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: little canister bottle and you had, you know, missus. Tamble's like, whoa,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I've never seen this before in my life. I'm out
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: there spraying the lawn up and walking it back.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Grubs.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: The grubs are no joke. If you don't catch them early.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, it can destroy a large area of your
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: your yard. And I'm battling right now. I mean I'm
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: in the Uh it's crunch time right now. It's like
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: fertilizer down, watered the fertilizer. After I'm gonna go back
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: out after the show get some more water on it.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Like I can't. We can't let such a good thing
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: go to waste. So it's uh, it's go time for
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: for hoops lawn.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: This guy nailed it. Man to bring the noise. Shout
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: out to you said, Stars and Grubs built tonight. Where
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Michael mayor Michael Mower if it's this thing, if you
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: want to play them tonight, so you can build the
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: stars and Grubs lineup with Michael Mower. That's what Michael
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: in the building tonight. So title Heny. Final thoughts from
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: you man before we get out of here. Congrats to
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: the winners, Michael and Bradley. Anything else you want to
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: talk about before we get out.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: No, I'm living in Arizona having rocks. It's pretty nice.
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: I still got weeds peeping up through. And sometimes I'm
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: so lazy. I get someone over and h every month
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: to do some stuff. But yeah, also a lot a
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: lot cheaper out here. You can uh can support the
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: economy and some people coming over here. But yeah, I
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: got nothing else. Good luck everybody.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: You're the man that's hilarious. The rocks kick rocks tight.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Everyone wants to know. We got grass. We got to
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: deal with her out there. Those beautiful You get the
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: lawns out in Arizona and they're just all pure nice rocks,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: sandstone and ship matching the side of the house. It's
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: all the same grains and everything it looks amazing.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: So you can keep get the AstroTurf right and get
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: the we gotta we got a quote. It was like
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: nine g's or something for like, I mean, something so soberediculous.
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: I grew up in Wisconsin. Though, that's a pocket change.
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: That's pocket change, you thought, and get that thing applied.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Nine g pocket cheese for mister tylers.
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I grew up in wiscont I mean I was
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: cutting the lawn and then I was in like fourth
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: grade though, with the push mower and shoveling and stuff,
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: I had to get the heck out of there. I
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: hate yard work and all that. I'm like you, that
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: was a chore every single I don't like the snow portion.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: The snow portion is awful. Like but I will say,
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: though I don't have anything electric, right, I got all
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: my stuff gas and mower, like everything's gas.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: I got an electric snowblower last year. I think is solid, man,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: very solid. It's two batteries like you put these in
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: full charge.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: You.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I can do my whole driveway, sidewalk. I'll even do
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: the neighbors if I get out there before them. This
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: electric snowblower was a was a game. Changer.
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: Highly had a snowblower sitting in our garage every single year,
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: but we were the snowblowers the kids, and we got
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: sent out there every time.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: That was never used, so that was our househover here.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well my kids, Yeah, my kids are definitely they're
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: off the hook for the lawn. I cannot risk letting
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: them go out there and fuck up my lawn. So
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: they don't have to worry about cutting the grass. But
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: the snow this year, they're at the age where I
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: might be shipping their asses out there. You better had
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: to do that.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: I might, you know, scrub some grubs off the lawn
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: these days, getting a little bit older. But I still
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: ain't shoveling. I'm a title like that one as a kid,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I hate it. But oh bust your back out trying
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: to lift one of the everything, it's all on the knees.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: They say, like you gotta shut I'm like, forget this ship,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: it's all on the hips, golf Like, I'm out of here.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Because then you like bundle up to go out there,
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: and then like you're working so hard shoveling, you start sweating,
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: so like you start feeling like you're going to pass out.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Because you're freezing and then you go to sweating and
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: you have the coat, the hat, the sweat shirt. It's
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: so bad though, because like you can't it's such a
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: bad combination, like snow fully out.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I got it now where the guy comes up and
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: does the lane and then it only leaves me like
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: the smallest little area in front of the garage. I'm like, okay,
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: I can do that. Just get that done quick and
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: move on. I'm very thankful because that's a thing I
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: hate the most. So and I get we get a
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: bunch of snow here obviously, so it's we'll.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Say, one really good decision I made, right, Like really
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: good decision is when I got the electric snowblower, the
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: battery operated snowblower. I gave my gas one to my
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: neighbor and he's like an engineer guy. He fixed it
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: up because it wasn't working well. So since I gave
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: him this thing, like if he gets out there before me,
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: he feels obtigated to take care of my stuff. So
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: like I'll wake up sometimes and that shit's done. I'm like,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: that was like the best move ever. So I've tried
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: it with other I've given him a generator.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: I took him up with everything.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: I was like, they could come back to help you
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: one day. It's a good deal for sure.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: So always pay it forward, man. We try and do that.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: We mentioned it here like if you know, giving away
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: a five fifty five ticket, all the ship of game stuff.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: We always try and pay it forward and be the
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: home of the giveaway. Hopefully this is a good one.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Hoop gave you guys the pep talk. We broke it
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: down in all different perspectives. If you guys have any questions, comments, concerns,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: let us know. But for for this one, I think
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: that's gonna do it, guys. So for title for Hoop
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: and for myself to tack and tambo let ship it