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SPEAKER_02: Um, all right, man.
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SPEAKER_02: So let's go ahead and get it kicked off here.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's start with a little bit about the Utah Mammoth.
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SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
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SPEAKER_02: So when it comes to the Utah Mammoth, uh, there was actually an article in the Salt Lake City uh Tribune titled, Is it time to care more about the Utah Mammoth Than You Do About the Utah Jazz?
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SPEAKER_02: Um now this is by Gordon Monson, longtime columnist for the Salt Lake Tribune and also a local radio contributor.
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SPEAKER_02: If you listen to local uh media at all, you've heard this guy's uh take on some things.
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SPEAKER_01: Lots of things over the years, too.
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SPEAKER_01: He's been around a long time, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: He has, he has.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh the article goes into how uh the most most pro sports in Utah has been on a bit of a tailspin over the past several years.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, and it might be time to hop on the bagwagon and get behind a winning team in Utah, uh, which is the Utah Mammoth.
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SPEAKER_02: What do you think on this, AJ?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, to answer this question, you really you got to go back to the Arizona Coyote days, right?
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, this this is a team that aside from the 50-win season that they had in like the 09 to 10 season, and then they reached the Western Conference Finals in 2012.
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SPEAKER_01: This team was widely known as like a bottom-tier NHL franchise that was plagued with ownership issues.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, they were known to take contracts for salary cap purposes, and then you know, a couple years ago, they they had that final straw that was they put the team into a college arena that only had 4,600 seats, and that was kind of the final straw for the NHL.
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SPEAKER_01: So, two years ago, obviously, this team comes to Utah.
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SPEAKER_01: The first move as Utah at that time, the Utah Hockey Club, they draft Tij and Aginla, they named Clayton Keller the captain, Logan Cooley, Dylan Gunther come out firing.
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SPEAKER_01: They look like future stars.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, last year they get Mikhail Sergachev in a trade, and all of a sudden, this bottom-tier franchise that was uh the Arizona Coyotes looks to have some promise.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, they go on to win 38 games, they barely missed the playoffs last year.
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SPEAKER_01: And then you start you start fast forwarding to this year, and Clayton Keller, Dylan Gunther are stars.
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SPEAKER_01: Mikhail Sergachev is a top 15 in the league for scoring defenseman.
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SPEAKER_01: Karel Vajmelka continues to be a key goaltender for this team with an 898 save percentage.
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SPEAKER_01: And they add McKenzie Weager in the trade deadline.
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SPEAKER_01: This team's got a cooking, right?
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SPEAKER_01: They average sellout attendance for the last two seasons, which last year was like 11,000 or 10,000.
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SPEAKER_01: This year it's like just over 11,000.
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SPEAKER_01: This team is is all of a sudden looking like something that it's it's worth every minute to watch them.
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SPEAKER_01: Why wouldn't you support them, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Now you go to just last week where they lock up a playoff spot.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like this team's good.
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SPEAKER_01: They have young talent, they've got some great draft prospects, and uh they just keep going.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, the jazz have been bad, they've been really bad.
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SPEAKER_01: They they won 39 games in the last two years, and I'm I'm a gi a diehard jazz fan for sure.
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SPEAKER_01: But nobody wants to go out and watch a jazz team lose and try to lose.
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SPEAKER_01: It's been brutal.
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SPEAKER_01: So my opinion is if you're a jazz fan, think about this.
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SPEAKER_01: Go watch a team win.
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SPEAKER_01: Right?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying you got to abandon your jazz fandom because I will never do that.
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SPEAKER_01: But this game's got young talent, they got vets that add a ton of depth, a front office that's got a plan to keep moving this franchise forward, and you can tell that that the whole front office has a plan to make you watch every game by putting a great product on the ice every single night.
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SPEAKER_01: So with all that being said, I'm not saying you got to abandon the jazz, but you should absolutely tune in and watch Utah Mammoth.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's kind of I think this article title is saying one thing why the article is saying something different.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't think that this and let let's let's take a step back on that and let's say, okay, we're talking about the jazz team.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh he's talking about a jazz team that's trying not to win anymore, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Like that's the way it's been for like the last three seasons.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, uh, followers of Utah Jazz DNA, our jazz channel.
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SPEAKER_02: Be sure to check out the link in the description down below.
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SPEAKER_02: Um uh you know all about how that's all over now.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Regardless of whether the whether the ja whoever the jazz draft this season, the tanking's done.
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SPEAKER_02: You simply cannot go into another year, whether they want to or not, doing this again.
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SPEAKER_02: Tanking is over for the Utah Jazz.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just over.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: So that argument of, you know, oh, hey, this is a team that wants to win versus a team that's trying to lose.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, that argument, I guess, over the last like two years, maybe if you posted this article last year, that would have been made, that would have made sense.
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SPEAKER_01: It actually makes sense at that point.
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SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: But in this case, he doesn't, you know, and then Gordon Marston's understanding of uh MLS soccer is hilariously terrible.
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SPEAKER_02: Like it's actually a running joke.
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SPEAKER_02: He used to have a show on um 1280 of the zone called The Big Show, where it's literally a joke where uh Spence Check is would ask him about soccer and he would just make up his answer because he knows absolutely nothing about soccer.
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SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_02: So, you know, he references the RSL uh in the team.
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SPEAKER_02: And keep in mind, like this team won a title back in 2009, which is the first and only professional title that Solik has, by the way.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, is an MLS Cup.
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SPEAKER_02: And don't get at me about the ABA stars or the you know the the goals or that's or the trappers, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
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SPEAKER_02: An actual major professional sport in the state of Utah.
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SPEAKER_02: The only one we have is from RSL, and that happened in 2009.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, but you know, let's remember what was happening in Utah at that time.
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SPEAKER_02: We had soccer fever in Utah.
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SPEAKER_02: You could not go into a bar in Salt Lake City without seeing a crap ton of RSL jerseys.
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SPEAKER_02: You couldn't go to the Mountain Uh the Mountain America out expo center out there, whatever it was called, without having that whole parking lot filled up with people who were going to the soccer game, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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SPEAKER_02: Like that was just like the soccer fever.
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SPEAKER_02: Like everybody uh, you know, from that run, uh, they were in the you know postseason from that run all the way up to 2015.
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SPEAKER_02: The lads did not miss a postseason that entire run.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: From 2009 to 2015.
7:43
SPEAKER_02: Um, now what happened at the start of the two thousand 2010 jazz season?
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SPEAKER_02: So right after they won that title, what happened?
7:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh that's the 2010, 2011 team.
7:53
SPEAKER_01: That's gotta be the rebuild started right around then, didn't it?
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SPEAKER_02: That was the year we lost Jerry Sloan and the Tyrone Corbin era began.
8:01
SPEAKER_02: We lost Jerry Sloan.
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SPEAKER_02: Darren Williams was traded after, and we were starting players that you know.
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SPEAKER_02: I I can't even name the starting five that the jazz had at that point.
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SPEAKER_02: We had a rookie, uh, we had uh Gordon Hayward, who was a second-year player that year.
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SPEAKER_02: Yep, you know, but yeah, dark days for the Jazz.
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SPEAKER_02: Very, very true that that was the case.
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SPEAKER_02: And this is actually coming after them losing each round earlier than they did the year before in the playoffs.
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SPEAKER_02: Before that, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So the Jazz were on a downtick, and we got this new soccer team, they just won a title.
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SPEAKER_02: So that kind of what I'm looking what am I talking about here?
8:39
SPEAKER_02: History is repeating itself.
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SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, we're doing the exact same thing.
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SPEAKER_02: And now, even I mean, RSL fans, you know, you'll tell us in the comments for sure, you're probably already typing it.
8:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, there's the RSL has had a bunch of ownership issues.
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SPEAKER_02: They will sell off players without using that money to buy it, but new talent.
8:56
SPEAKER_02: I'm getting all that.
8:56
SPEAKER_02: I I totally understand that.
8:58
SPEAKER_02: But even since, like that was a right now, they're on a seven-year straight playoff berth as a franchise.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, real salt lakes.
9:05
SPEAKER_01: And and right now, this minute, they're six, one, and one.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: With four loss or four wins, one loss, and one draw.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So this team is cooking, and yes, it had some dark.
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SPEAKER_01: They got a star player in Diego Luna who goes out there and just plays out of his mind.
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SPEAKER_01: He, I mean, he just played for the U.S.
9:21
SPEAKER_01: national team.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's a bunch of rumors hearing that they he might get posed from from a Premier League team.
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SPEAKER_02: So we'll see what happens there.
9:28
SPEAKER_01: When you're that good, you're that good.
9:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
9:29
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he is one of the best players in the country.
9:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure.
9:32
SPEAKER_02: For sure.
9:32
SPEAKER_02: But like again, so same concept there.
9:35
SPEAKER_02: Like, you're focused on that, you're seeing that as a negative.
9:37
SPEAKER_02: But that is a team that holds a strong footprint coming into the inselling market now, still to this day.
9:42
SPEAKER_02: And they're underneath the right ownership group now with the Millers, and they're gonna start seeing some things changing.
9:47
SPEAKER_02: You're like you said, they're already killing it this year.
9:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
9:50
SPEAKER_02: So but right after that happened, after that run where they got the title and then and then the jazz had the down year.
9:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, then all of a sudden, now the jazz, we got Donovan Mitchell and we got Rudy Gobert, and those fans that were all in that just kind of abandoned the jazz for a while and went to go watch Real Sol Lake.
10:09
SPEAKER_02: Well, now they're back to being with the Jazz again because the jazz are coming back around.
10:14
SPEAKER_02: Now, so again, these are very similar things that are happening uh for both franchises.
10:20
SPEAKER_02: So with the Mammoth, they are very exciting, they're the new team in Utah, they are picking up momentum for sure.
10:25
SPEAKER_02: But Utah will always be a place for the Utah Jazz.
10:31
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
10:32
SPEAKER_02: Real Salt Lake is a reliable, consistent uh presence in the MLS.
10:36
SPEAKER_02: Will hockey take over uh the jazz in popularity in the state?
10:40
SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
10:42
SPEAKER_01: I I agree.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't see it passing.
10:45
SPEAKER_02: But if the mammoth lifts up the cup before the jazz can get a title, that could easily change.
10:54
SPEAKER_01: We actually did a video on this.
10:55
SPEAKER_02: Yes, we have a video earlier on the channel about who wins first, and if that's the case, if if the if the mammoth win uh uh Stanley Cup before the jazz win uh a title, I very easily can see this switch over to a hockey town versus a jazz town.
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SPEAKER_01: It could take a real hard swing that way.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but yeah, as it sits right now, I don't think that we like the way the article's titled is makes it very much sound like, hey, stop looking at the jazz, start thinking about the mammoth going forward.
11:23
SPEAKER_02: That's the way the title was.
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SPEAKER_02: But you break down the actual article, it's not really kind of worded that way at all.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, so I just think, you know, again, with Monson's lack of understanding of how Real Salt Lake has played over the last several years, being in the in the MLS Cup every single, you know, season for the last seven years and being on a five-year run after they won the title, they've been here, but they've been kind of that backs, they've been kind of that, you know, distraction for when the jazz are simply just not per not playing well, not pretending to play well.
11:51
SPEAKER_02: And I think that's just kind of what we're going through right now with the mammoth as well.
11:55
SPEAKER_02: When the jazz pull out of this, you know, uh is the mammoth still gonna be as popular as they are?
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SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't think they're gonna lose any momentum, right?
12:02
SPEAKER_02: But that doesn't mean the jazz are gonna take a hit as far as the most popular team in the state.
12:06
SPEAKER_01: And the best part is we have some great jazz content coming up too.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so be sure to talk, be sure to yeah, stick around for that.
12:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and if you're watching on one of our other videos on Utah Mammoth, make sure you guys check out Utah Jazz DNA.
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SPEAKER_02: Link in the description.
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SPEAKER_02: It's in the live stream too, by the way.
12:21
SPEAKER_02: I remember to put it in this week.
12:22
SPEAKER_02: It's great.
12:22
SPEAKER_01: Oh, perfect.
12:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we want to know from you folks.
12:25
SPEAKER_02: Uh, let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
12:27
SPEAKER_02: Uh let us know what your thoughts are in regards to the Utah Mammoth.
12:30
SPEAKER_02: Do you think, based off of this article um that we saw in the trib there, do you think uh it's time to abandon the jazz and go after and be all about the mammoth?
12:39
SPEAKER_02: Um, or do you think like we are here?
12:40
SPEAKER_02: And this is just a great, nice distraction this season from basically having to watch a terrible team just actively try to lose games, you know?
12:47
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no doubt about it.
12:50
SPEAKER_02: We got a comment here from Triple J Jazz Force Forge, sorry.
12:55
SPEAKER_02: Um Utah Jazz, Utah will host a Stanley Cup before Adam's Silver Cup.
13:01
SPEAKER_02: Uh are you talking about the Emirates Cup in the middle of the season?
13:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because even then I don't know.
13:07
SPEAKER_01: I think he's talking about uh an NBA title.
13:10
SPEAKER_01: Oh, for sure.
13:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, even those Jazz uh are 46-year-olds, even though the Jazz have a 46-year head start.
13:15
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, man.
13:16
SPEAKER_02: Like I just there is there's a difference there, and we've talked about this on on the hawk on this channel.
13:22
SPEAKER_02: That this team is already a destination spot for free agents in hockey, yeah, which is something you can never say for the Utah Jazz.
13:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, players look forward to coming to play hockey here.
13:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, jazz only get players by trade.
13:35
SPEAKER_02: And a lot of the times now during the LeBron Empowerment era, they're blocking trades.
13:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
13:40
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it's it's been interesting.
13:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
13:43
SPEAKER_02: All right, let's go ahead and pivot on over and talk some football, shall we?
13:46
SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
13:55
SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
13:56
SPEAKER_02: So there's a little bit of um yeah, let's do that.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, not that one, that one.
14:03
SPEAKER_02: No.
14:03
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
14:04
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
14:05
SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
14:06
SPEAKER_02: So let's go ahead and talk a little bit about the Utah football, um, Utah football DNA, as we're known.
14:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh what we want to do is kind of do a quick uh kind of a player profile here on Creed Whitmore.
14:19
SPEAKER_02: Uh, there's an article uh by Josh Furlong in KSL on KSL.com called titled Utah Receiver Creed Whitmore Poised for a breakout season uh after a standout spring.
14:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh this article goes into how the Mississippi transfer um discusses and how well he was utilized last season under Coach Witt um after being after you know being one of the most consistent wide receivers this spring and how they're thinking he should really have a breakout year this year.
14:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean absolutely the thing is is it's hard being five foot eleven and a half as a wide receiver and Division I college football playing in a power four conference, right?
14:58
SPEAKER_01: He came to Utah last year, he had two seasons with Mississippi State where he had 11 receptions in 2023 and like four receptions in 2024.
15:07
SPEAKER_01: Um and then he made the decision to jump in the transfer portal, he transferred over to Utah.
15:12
SPEAKER_01: He had 12 receptions last year, which was, I mean, not a bad season.
15:15
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, it outperformed both of the seasons at Mississippi State.
15:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, but the sophomore from Gainesville, he kind of admits that he was a little bit out of his element last year when he came to Utah.
15:26
SPEAKER_01: And and the big reason he didn't see playing time last year was because he had some ball security issues.
15:32
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I like that line.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, ball security issues.
15:36
SPEAKER_02: That's a great line from Witt right there.
15:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, but that I mean that's tough, man.
15:41
SPEAKER_01: I mean, so now you get a change under the big headset, right?
15:44
SPEAKER_01: And with that change under the big headset comes the change at wide receiver coach.
15:48
SPEAKER_01: And when Scally brought back Coach Bump, this this was kind of a great first step for Creed Whitmore.
15:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, he was coached by um Coach Bump at Mississippi State.
15:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, and and the new offense under Kevin McGevin, it's it's very widely expected that it's going to be much more pass heavy, right?
16:06
SPEAKER_01: So Creed was a four-star recruit out of high school.
16:09
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he he actually played quarterback in high school, had offers from Florida, Georgia, or Georgia Tech, Miami, Michigan, Penn State, Texas, and I'm you get it.
16:17
SPEAKER_01: Lots of offers, right?
16:18
SPEAKER_01: I mean, this this kid was highly recruited out of high school.
16:21
SPEAKER_01: So he's a talented kid, though.
16:23
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you I I watched some of his high school tape.
16:25
SPEAKER_01: He's got breakaway speed, great hands.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: Um so to see him already be a favorite target um in spring for Devin Dampier and Bert Ficklin, uh, I think he's absolutely going to get a shot to show what he can do.
16:39
SPEAKER_01: And when you have a a kid this talented and hungry and willing to wait on the sidelines for your spot, because what do most kids do when they don't get playing time?
16:50
SPEAKER_01: They just transfer out.
16:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:52
SPEAKER_01: Right?
16:53
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that that's the new motto of of college football is you can't get it, you just take an opportunity, go down to you know, down a division in in college football and go play every single game.
17:03
SPEAKER_01: But he waited until it's his turn.
17:06
SPEAKER_01: I'd be very surprised if he doesn't make the most out of it.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's kind of one of the things I wanted to talk to you about.
17:11
SPEAKER_02: You don't really see that a lot lately.
17:13
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
17:13
SPEAKER_02: That's kind of like an OG type, you know, play there, where you come in, you transfer from another school like Mississippi State.
17:19
SPEAKER_02: You come in and your first year you don't see a lot of touches, uh, which is really interesting because in this situation, Creed was in a position where there wasn't really, according to the KSL article, there wasn't really one that was a standout wide receiver number one within this team.
17:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:34
SPEAKER_02: So why he was underutilized again, Coach Witt's line, you know, ball security issues, as Coach Witt would say, um, or is it simply just a lack of usage and with in a clear need where there wasn't really a top wide receiver number one that the article mentions?
17:49
SPEAKER_02: Which way are you kind of leaning?
17:51
SPEAKER_02: Do you think it was more of like, oh yeah, he doesn't like Coach Witt's way of handling things where, like, okay, he's got ball security issues, like he can't hold it.
17:59
SPEAKER_02: Let's go ahead and just push him down the depth chart and let's use somebody else.
18:03
SPEAKER_01: Or is it I think last year the problem was is they did have a breakout wide receiver who was shorthanded and had a ton of chemistry with Devin Dampier, and that was Ryan Davis.
18:13
SPEAKER_01: Right?
18:13
SPEAKER_01: After a few games, it was just obvious that Devin Dampier was like, that's my guy.
18:18
SPEAKER_01: If I see him even remotely looking open, he's gonna take a shot.
18:23
SPEAKER_01: So, and then this year, without you know, this year obviously he has more of an opportunity.
18:28
SPEAKER_01: You know, the only transfer wide receiver that I really believe that's gonna compete with him is gonna be Braden Peegan.
18:33
SPEAKER_01: And he's a great player that runs that knows the offense.
18:36
SPEAKER_01: You know, we just had a video about him a couple weeks ago.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: He's he'll be right up there with them.
18:41
SPEAKER_01: And it's not like you only need one resire, what one wide receiver on a on the on the team at any given point.
18:45
SPEAKER_01: So you got two guys that are solid, have great speed, good hands.
18:50
SPEAKER_01: This is what the youths need to take this to the next level.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, see, there you go.
18:54
SPEAKER_02: See, Josh, that's uh that's what if you ever need some help in correcting your article.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, there clearly was a wide receiver one at the University of Utah, unlike what you said in your article here.
19:03
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, AJ's available for consultation.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: Reach out to us at dnasportsrecap.com at gmail.com or whatever it is.
19:10
SPEAKER_02: Um, and uh yeah, we'll help you, we'll help you fact check your article there.
19:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you got it.
19:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we got a com we got a couple of uh comments here that from Pacific Northwest Ute saying the diminutive wide receiver, I'll sing can you take me?
19:26
SPEAKER_02: I want to see you gotta sing it though.
19:28
SPEAKER_01: No, not can you take me high uh dude?
19:33
SPEAKER_02: Almost like wow, nice, nice.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: Uh you're welcome.
19:36
SPEAKER_02: You gotta sing with your chin though when you sing Creed.
19:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he always sung with his chin, like his chin was like right on the microphone.
19:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
19:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, I just couldn't watch that guy perform live because that drove me nuts.
19:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm just like, dude, just sing into the microphone.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: It's you don't need to rest your chin on it.
19:50
SPEAKER_02: Um, I want to see the passes by Whitmore off the screen.
19:54
SPEAKER_02: Um, and he also has uh another comment here from um two timidative wide receiver.
20:00
SPEAKER_01: Same thing, but I want to see the passes by former high school quarterback Whitmore off the screen.
20:05
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
20:06
SPEAKER_02: I like it.
20:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:08
SPEAKER_02: To me way too long.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for the comment.
20:10
SPEAKER_01: It made both of us laugh.
20:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it took me way too long to make the connection there between the name creed and the bad creed.
20:15
SPEAKER_02: I just thought, you know, I just wow.
20:17
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Darren, you need to wow, Darren.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: It's coffee time for sure.
20:20
SPEAKER_01: I as soon as I saw it pop up, I that's why I started laughing.
20:23
SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh my god.
20:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:25
SPEAKER_01: So I was like, I'm gonna have to sing this line.
20:27
SPEAKER_01: That's what's gonna have to happen here.
20:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's when it like clicked in.
20:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just thought it was funny.
20:31
SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, so another thing we want to talk about when it comes to the University of Utah is going to be well, again, with spring camp coming to an end here this week.
20:39
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we'll be closed out by the time we speak to you guys next week on the University of Utah.
20:43
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we want to talk about the Forever 22 fan day.
20:47
SPEAKER_02: Now we've talked about this on a previous episode where we discussed the fact that they're not having a spring game, um, which again, the Forever 22 game was held in the honor of the late uh Ty Johnson and Aaron Lau.
20:59
SPEAKER_02: Ty Jordan and Aaron Lowe.
21:00
SPEAKER_02: What did I say?
21:01
SPEAKER_01: Ty Johnson and Aaron Lau.
21:03
SPEAKER_02: Ty Jordan and Aaron Lowe.
21:06
SPEAKER_02: Lowe.
21:07
SPEAKER_01: Nailed it.
21:08
SPEAKER_01: First time.
21:09
SPEAKER_02: First time every time.
21:11
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think it autocorrected me and put Lowe's there.
21:14
SPEAKER_02: Lowe's or Lows on Aaron.
21:17
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, Ty Jordan and uh Aaron Lowe.
21:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh, in remembrance of their tragic passing.
21:24
SPEAKER_02: Um, is typically why they put it in their names, and it's held every year uh for them.
21:29
SPEAKER_02: Uh they both wore the number 22, that's why it's Forever 22 game, and now we have Forever 22 fan day.
21:36
SPEAKER_02: Uh what are your feelings on this, AJ?
21:39
SPEAKER_01: This one hurts my soul, man.
21:41
SPEAKER_01: I just uh I feel like it's like a really, really big disappointment to move away from a spring game.
21:49
SPEAKER_02: I mean, like that's where the that's where the the issue is, right?
21:53
SPEAKER_02: Like yeah, they're still honoring, like they're still honoring Jordan and Aaron, they're still doing the coats chair.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: Dirty thing for this one.
22:01
SPEAKER_02: They're still showing that respect for those guys and their tragic passing.
22:05
SPEAKER_02: It's the fact that we don't get the game.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: You know?
22:08
SPEAKER_01: Because I mean the thing is like watching a team grow and you know, seeing your clips on social media and like watching them kind of mesh and learn to play, and then having the opportunity to spend the day at Rice Cycle Stadium, like that's that's a spring tradition, man.
22:23
SPEAKER_01: That like it it hurts to just let that go.
22:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:27
SPEAKER_02: Right?
22:27
SPEAKER_02: Like it, I mean well, and there's also the the avenue of the fact that there's people that had seasoned tickets to the Utes for decades.
22:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:34
SPEAKER_02: And now are completely priced out of games.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: The only ones they can go to was the one where it cost$22 a ticket.
22:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:40
SPEAKER_02: Or whatever the price was for this game.
22:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:42
SPEAKER_02: That was the only chance they got to go out there and watch it.
22:44
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
22:44
SPEAKER_02: And now they get like a fan day.
22:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's free and everything, but they don't get to watch a football game, you know?
22:50
SPEAKER_02: It's just I just don't like it.
22:52
SPEAKER_02: I understand why they're doing it.
22:53
SPEAKER_02: We talked about this last time.
22:54
SPEAKER_02: I just don't like it.
22:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no.
22:56
SPEAKER_01: I mean, because the I mean the best part about that game was it it made that break from January to August like a little bit more bearable, right?
23:02
SPEAKER_01: Like knowing you're gonna have a a game, one singular game in April that you can go sit in your seats and race and like do your thing.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, not now you're gonna switch it to an event where it's like there's autographs and interactive drills for kids and a live interview for Morgan Scally, and it's like that's the best you could come up with.
23:22
SPEAKER_01: Like I get there, there's there's a reason to it, right?
23:26
SPEAKER_01: People leaving the program, people getting poached after watching a spring game and and kind of balling out.
23:30
SPEAKER_01: But like what what if they just did a flag football game?
23:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, something like that where they just did something different, but it was a game on the field.
23:38
SPEAKER_01: Let the guys go out, have fun, let the can't let the fans come and watch, and then do your autograph signing and interactive drills and like all that Morgan Skelly interview, do it after.
23:48
SPEAKER_01: Have a flag football game where it's non-contact, but you can see the guys on the field in their jerseys.
23:54
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's four 10-minute quarters, like nobody cares.
23:58
SPEAKER_01: Right.
23:58
SPEAKER_01: But we want to go out, we want to go sit at Rice Eccles and watch a game.
24:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
24:02
SPEAKER_02: You know, and what if you what if you did something like this?
24:04
SPEAKER_02: What if you had the team suit up against a different Utah team?
24:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
24:09
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's awesome.
24:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but the Forever 22 game was a flag football game against the baseball team, the mammoth.
24:16
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that would be even cooler.
24:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I'm talking about?
24:19
SPEAKER_02: Like have the Utah Mammoth go up there and play a little flag football against the University of Utah.
24:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, or heck, bring up the team from down south, bring up the bring up the BYU guys and let them have a little flag football like rivalry game.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you'd sell every single ticket out of that stadium.
24:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you could price it normally.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: I mean you but even if you go 22 bucks a seat for 50,000 fans, like massive revenue.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: I just feel like the University of Utah's marketing team really needs to hit us up because this is a great idea.
24:47
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24:50
SPEAKER_02: Check us out.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: You know, we'll be able to help you out, guys.
24:53
SPEAKER_02: You know, because I I'm telling you, man, there's so much more to do with this.
24:55
SPEAKER_02: It just just have a game.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: If you're worried about poaching, then cool.
24:58
SPEAKER_02: Don't have your best players out there.
25:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I don't even care.
25:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't care if it's the best player.
25:03
SPEAKER_01: Put the fourth stringers in there.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: I still want to go watch football.
25:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just uh yeah.
25:07
SPEAKER_02: We want to hear from you folks.
25:08
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are on that.
25:09
SPEAKER_02: We got another comment here from channel legend Greg Hawkins.
25:12
SPEAKER_02: We we would have say we haven't gotten any good news regarding college football for years and years now.
25:18
SPEAKER_02: So I'm not exactly surprised by the active by the active worsening of the product.
25:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and the worst part is people are still gonna watch.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: That's the thing.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: It's like people are like, oh, they're gonna start paying players.
25:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm not going, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say it's not college football anymore.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm not gonna do it, but people are still watching.
25:35
SPEAKER_02: People don't care.
25:36
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's not my money, they're still going.
25:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm not really seeing a drop off in no anything.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: No, college football is just a massive money-making machine now.
25:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it just it's not changing, and the schools don't have to pay the I mean, now they're paying players like because of the not because of the NLI NIL thing, but like the whole like a pool thing that they're doing.
25:54
SPEAKER_02: Profit sharing and profit sharing, yeah.
25:55
SPEAKER_02: That thing there's so they are technically paying the players now, but it's just a little difference.
25:59
SPEAKER_02: The game has changed quite a bit, and like I said, man, these money-making machines are just they're they're they're pricing people out, man.
26:06
SPEAKER_02: Last time I was at Rice Echoes, I think I was paying seven dollars for a soda, and I'm just like, this is a bit insane, you know.
26:13
SPEAKER_02: You guys want to make money, like the just start selling beer.
26:16
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's a great idea.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: Just start selling beer.
26:19
SPEAKER_02: I'm all for some beer.
26:20
SPEAKER_02: I think that's what the uh fund needs to do first.
26:22
SPEAKER_02: Is that that that fund needs to go up to the lobby, go up to the hill and lobby for some beer in the stadiums, and then that'll take care of your profit issue altogether.
26:30
SPEAKER_02: Altogether, yeah.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: Just done.
26:32
SPEAKER_02: Just done after that.
26:33
SPEAKER_02: Um, again, folks, we want to hear from you.
26:34
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to what we've talked about for the university Utah football team.
26:40
SPEAKER_02: Um, what do you think about Creed Whitmore?
26:42
SPEAKER_02: Are you expecting a breakout season from him?
26:44
SPEAKER_02: And what are your feelings about the Forever 22 fan day?
26:47
SPEAKER_02: Are you going?
26:47
SPEAKER_02: Are you planning on going?
26:48
SPEAKER_02: It's the 18th.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: Let us know.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: We'd love to see uh take some pictures, send it to us on Instagram.
26:52
SPEAKER_02: We'd love to see it.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: Tag us on Instagram, we'd love to see it.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: So let us know.
26:56
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
26:56
SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
26:57
SPEAKER_02: Let's go ahead and pivot over and talk a little bit about the Utah Jazz.
27:00
SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
27:08
SPEAKER_02: Still trips me out that it's purple now.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: I keep skipping past it every single time when it's purple.
27:15
SPEAKER_02: Um, all right, folks.
27:16
SPEAKER_02: Well, again, uh appreciate it.
27:18
SPEAKER_02: Thanks for uh joining us.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: And again, if you're watching uh in our live stream, uh we do this every Wednesday at 7:30.
27:24
SPEAKER_02: Uh, if you're watching this on our um on our show, on our live stream after the fact or you listen on podcasts, we live stream this every Wednesday at 7.30.
27:33
SPEAKER_02: And today 7.30-ish.
27:35
SPEAKER_02: Um 7.30-ish.
27:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:38
SPEAKER_01: It depends what we start talking about pre-show and whether we need to delay one to two minutes to make sure we get through our topic.
27:44
SPEAKER_02: Very hot topic pre-show today, which was the moon landing, real or fake, which was a lot of fun.
27:49
SPEAKER_01: Leave us a comment.
27:50
SPEAKER_01: We want to know your guys' opinion on the moon landing.
27:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and we pivoted over to the pyramids after that.
27:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we were all over the place.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: It was great.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: Then we looked up, we're like, oh, we're three minutes past, we better get going.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sorry guys.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: It was great.
28:01
SPEAKER_01: It was a great we do this because we actually are friends.
28:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, believe it or not.
28:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:07
SPEAKER_02: He puts up with me, believe it or not.
28:09
SPEAKER_02: Um, all right.
28:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I love this here.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: Name, image, and logger.
28:14
SPEAKER_02: Pacific Northwest.
28:15
SPEAKER_02: You know how to throw, throw in the comments.
28:17
SPEAKER_01: I just it's so much more fun when you transition.
28:19
SPEAKER_02: Image and logger.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
28:21
SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
28:22
SPEAKER_02: Um, all right.
28:23
SPEAKER_02: So um, I don't know uh about you, AJ, but I am so glad that this basketball season is finally over.
28:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you know, um just take a deep breath and enjoy that mediocrity should be done with now.
28:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know what I mean?
28:38
SPEAKER_01: Like it's it's actually past us at this point.
28:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's in the rear view mirror, watching 10-day contract players is gone.
28:46
SPEAKER_02: And speaking of which, boy, did we go out with a funny one in a fun in a typical Utah type fashion.
28:53
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
28:54
SPEAKER_02: So we had two players on April 10th rack up triple doubles uh between Abez Mbang and uh John Conchar, uh, respectfully.
29:04
SPEAKER_02: Uh Mbang scored 27 points, 11 rebounds, and 11 assists.
29:09
SPEAKER_02: And Kanchar had 11 points, 11 assists, and 10 rebounds.
29:12
SPEAKER_02: Which, by the way, AJ, was his second consecutive game having a triple double.
29:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:17
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah.
29:18
SPEAKER_02: AJ, this was a bulllout win against the Grizzlies.
29:22
SPEAKER_02: We won 147-2-1-0-101.
29:26
SPEAKER_02: This is my pro this is what's the problem with chart playing 10-day contract guys and playing guys that you just you gave them a 10-day contract and you kept them on for the rest of the year just so somebody could be out there.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, these guys are playing for contracts.
29:36
SPEAKER_02: They were not losing that game.
29:38
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
29:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they were they were given everything, man.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: Like these guys are out there, like you said, they're playing for contracts.
29:43
SPEAKER_01: Like, this isn't a game to them.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: So to I don't know who decided not to tell these people, hey, we are not supposed to like we had we lost a 10% chance of getting a top three pick by winning this game.
29:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:54
SPEAKER_02: So thanks, guys.
29:56
SPEAKER_02: Appreciate it.
29:56
SPEAKER_02: By the way, John Contrar is easily my been my favorite player to watch this last half of the season.
30:01
SPEAKER_02: The dude was just he's just so consistent, man.
30:04
SPEAKER_02: It's it's insane.
30:05
SPEAKER_02: Um, but obviously, uh, you know, which this all tracks because it happens to a team when both teams aren't trying to win a game, right?
30:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh the danger, AJ, is that these 10 guys are you know looking for their next contract, they're going out there to play.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: The Grizzlies also had somebody scoring a triple-double on their side, yep.
30:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh, which which again, they weren't trying to win this game, which is totally a joke.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: That was, I mean, Jama Jemia uh Mashek.
30:29
SPEAKER_02: I can't say his name right.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: I didn't even write it down.
30:31
SPEAKER_02: I've heard it both ways.
30:32
SPEAKER_02: I've heard it both ways.
30:33
SPEAKER_02: And uh he was one of the players, one of the two players uh that also played all 48 minutes for the Grizzlies.
30:39
SPEAKER_02: They had two players that played the whole game and three players that had DMP coach decisions on their team.
30:46
SPEAKER_02: Dude, this was a record.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: The Grizzlies tried harder to lose.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: Yes, they know how they understood the assignment.
30:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but the the fact that we're setting NBA records, there's no been there's been no team in baseball history that have three players in baseball history.
31:01
SPEAKER_02: Sorry, but that's even more impressive.
31:03
SPEAKER_02: It's more impressive in NBA history where we've had three players score a triple double in the same game, right?
31:10
SPEAKER_02: Especially three bench players, yes, which is absolutely insane.
31:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:15
SPEAKER_01: Leave it leave it to the jazz, man.
31:17
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
31:18
SPEAKER_01: Like, um, Bez had, I mean, this dude came out and balled out for a two 10-day contract was a thing.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: And then he signed a non-guaranteed two-year deal, um, which which paid him like$73,000 to complete this season, and then the teams got control over him for the next two.
31:35
SPEAKER_01: Um so like he as far as as far as you know, Besbang's future, he's he's guaranteed to be on the summer league roster.
31:48
SPEAKER_01: Um I doubt he has a place on the full-time roster next year that's very limited.
31:54
SPEAKER_01: Um but but very impressive.
31:57
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, to come out and just and just play like he did, he probably earned himself at least another 10 day.
32:02
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he earned himself a contract, right?
32:04
SPEAKER_02: And it's a two million dollar contract.
32:06
SPEAKER_02: Did he really though?
32:07
SPEAKER_02: Like, because that's kind of what I'm pointing at here.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, you had two teams where both of them are actively trying to lose, throwing out a bunch of 10-day contract guys that don't belong in the NBA.
32:15
SPEAKER_01: And because someone throws up a triple-double, that guarantee like they're yeah, I don't I don't see the the I just think he earned his contract in the in the two 10-day contracts, right?
32:25
SPEAKER_01: Like sure, sure.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: Because the guy can play, and and he did have some good games, and he's someone that you might want to take another further look at to stack out the end of that bench.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
32:35
SPEAKER_01: They can come out and and maybe produce like this game specifically.
32:39
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if there's any value to that because again, two teams trying to lose in this game.
32:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this is what I'm talking about.
32:45
SPEAKER_02: This is why these things, like these records that were broken over the last couple seasons, ever since Victor Wimanyaba been part of this league, where we have ha a third of the league trying to actively lose games.
32:55
SPEAKER_02: Are any of these records or any of these things even matter?
32:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:59
SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, I mean NBA record, who cares?
33:02
SPEAKER_02: No one like that game was a complete joke, you know.
33:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was funny because the Jazz went from like what a 40-year streak of no triple doubles to like eight or ten this year.
33:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so like you're like, all right, what's what's the deal there?
33:13
SPEAKER_02: Like so those triple doubles basically have no value, but they're in the record books.
33:17
SPEAKER_02: They are, you know, which makes no sense.
33:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just terrible.
33:20
SPEAKER_02: It's just terrible.
33:21
SPEAKER_02: We got another comment here from um Car Wash Channel saying, I gave up on the jazz, they just tank.
33:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, good news.
33:29
SPEAKER_02: Good news, they're done, it's over, it's over, they're done tanking.
33:34
SPEAKER_02: No more tanking, yeah.
33:35
SPEAKER_02: Car wash channel.
33:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you heard it here first.
33:38
SPEAKER_02: You did.
33:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
33:40
SPEAKER_02: So I don't know, man.
33:41
SPEAKER_02: It's just been it's been pretty ridiculous here.
33:44
SPEAKER_02: And let's, you know, the jazz had a the jazz season is over.
33:47
SPEAKER_02: They had a record of 22 and 60 this year, but let's go ahead and put that officially behind us.
33:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this is the last time we're talking about last season.
33:55
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
33:56
SPEAKER_01: Because it's the future.
33:57
SPEAKER_02: Here moving on.
33:58
SPEAKER_02: We are talking about looking forward.
34:01
SPEAKER_02: But that said, there's a lot of things that are going on in Jazz Land before the Jazz lace it up again next fall.
34:05
SPEAKER_02: We have the draft lotto, we have the actual draft itself, we have summer league, fall camp.
34:11
SPEAKER_02: But what we want to do is we want to set a bold expectation.
34:15
SPEAKER_02: Well, one of us wants to set a bold expectation for this season, for this team next season.
34:21
SPEAKER_02: AJ, what do you got for us?
34:23
SPEAKER_01: I want you to just put on your picturing glasses, okay?
34:26
SPEAKER_01: I want you to stare into the camera, and I want you to imagine this starting lineup walking out onto the court.
34:32
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
34:32
SPEAKER_01: Keonta George, Ace Bailey, Larry Markinen, Jaron Jackson Jr., and Walker Kessler.
34:40
SPEAKER_01: The smallest player of those is Keontae George at 6'4.
34:44
SPEAKER_01: Ace is 6'9, Laurie 7-1, Triple J 6'10, Walker 7-2.
34:49
SPEAKER_01: That's a big lineup, my friend.
34:51
SPEAKER_01: There is a ton of defensive effort from four of those five players.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: The one, the one weak link who's a serviceable defensive player, is Keontae George.
35:02
SPEAKER_01: Had made strides this year playing defense.
35:05
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
35:06
SPEAKER_01: Everyone that I just named adds scoring in different ways.
35:09
SPEAKER_01: Key shoots a three-ball, ace can shoot it from anywhere on the floor, just like Lari, triple J.
35:14
SPEAKER_01: Walker's a down low threat that pulls gravity down to the center.
35:17
SPEAKER_01: You can't just leave him.
35:18
SPEAKER_01: They'll lob it over your head, he'll dunk it on you, similar to Rudy Gobert's style.
35:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then we've got some great, great, great young role players that that can just really fill in off the bench, and they all do different things.
35:32
SPEAKER_01: It's not like you're gonna, you know, you don't ever swap five for five, right?
35:35
SPEAKER_01: So you can put flip out there and he can add a different element to that four or five position.
35:39
SPEAKER_01: You can put Cody Williams out there for Larry Markinen and he adds a different element.
35:44
SPEAKER_01: Bryce Sensaba, potentially Yosef Nurkic.
35:48
SPEAKER_01: All these guys played a ton of minutes.
35:50
SPEAKER_01: Potentially.
35:51
SPEAKER_01: Potentially.
35:53
SPEAKER_01: There's another video on that.
35:54
SPEAKER_01: Um all these guys played a ton of minutes, though.
35:57
SPEAKER_01: And and and they can use this offseason to get some chemistry with the starters that are gonna be on the floor for the jazz next year.
36:04
SPEAKER_01: And I think that adds a ton of value to get things turned around.
36:08
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you're gonna put a much better product on the floor next year, and every single game is going to be playing for your career, right?
36:16
SPEAKER_01: Because the jazz, you can't go out there and just keep losing next year.
36:21
SPEAKER_01: Will Hardy's gonna coach him to win, these players are gonna go out there to play to win.
36:25
SPEAKER_01: The three games that we saw with Lari and Triple J, we only got to see them for three quarters, but those games were fun to watch, right?
36:32
SPEAKER_01: When you saw those guys out there, we could score, we could defend, and we were doing that without Walker Kessler out there.
36:38
SPEAKER_01: But but we were shutting teams down.
36:40
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we were we're they those guys are coming out of the game with 10, 15 point lead, and we'd still turn around and lose in the fourth quarter.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: So tur turning this team around to make the playoffs next year is a huge step.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: And and the milestone though, for a great basketball team, especially off of a 22 and 52 season, 22 and 62.
37:01
SPEAKER_02: 22 and 60.
37:02
SPEAKER_01: 22, oh yeah, 22, 60.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: That makes more sense.
37:05
SPEAKER_01: 82 games.
37:06
SPEAKER_01: Um 50 wins.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: That's the milestone, right?
37:10
SPEAKER_01: 50 wins for a jazz team next year, I think, is absolutely achievable.
37:16
SPEAKER_01: This team has enough talent on the floor, they've got enough good players that saw enough minutes last year.
37:23
SPEAKER_01: Health, obviously, that's always something you're gonna look at, right?
37:26
SPEAKER_01: But what this team has on paper to start next season with is something that could be really special.
37:33
SPEAKER_01: I think the playoffs is an expectation, it's not just a wish.
37:36
SPEAKER_01: It is these players are expecting to make the playoffs next year.
37:40
SPEAKER_01: So if they go out there and play some meaningful basketball, they have an opportunity to get the to get the Delta Center rocking for this jazz team, just like it has been for the Mammoth over the last couple of months.
37:53
SPEAKER_01: Nice.
37:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, let's hear it, Darren.
37:57
SPEAKER_01: I know you got something to say.
38:01
SPEAKER_02: I said you wanted to set an expectation.
38:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:03
SPEAKER_02: Uh that expectation is 50 wins for next season.
38:06
SPEAKER_02: Um, do I think that that's possible for this jazz team?
38:09
SPEAKER_02: Or do I think it's likely?
38:10
SPEAKER_02: Um, nope, not a chance.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: Not even not even close.
38:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, everything you just you even just said it and you hit it on nail on the head.
38:19
SPEAKER_02: Everything is on paper and in theory.
38:23
SPEAKER_02: Triple J and Market in were on the floor for what three quarters together?
38:27
SPEAKER_02: Very limited minutes.
38:29
SPEAKER_02: Three quarters and three games.
38:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, three quarters and three games.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:32
SPEAKER_02: Three games, three quarters, and uh, you know, we there's nothing really you can glean from that.
38:37
SPEAKER_02: There wasn't anything that was really like you could take away, like, oh, you know, these guys didn't have there wasn't enough minutes on that to really give you anything to get excited about.
38:45
SPEAKER_02: You know, uh it's not like there was like they both scored like 35 points and had 10 rebounds, you know, or you know, there wasn't anything that said, okay, hey, this is a duo, they are gonna play well together.
38:57
SPEAKER_02: We don't know how this team's gonna play together.
38:59
SPEAKER_02: Everything on paper looks good, but we have a bunch of variables that we don't even know yet.
39:04
SPEAKER_02: Like, first of all, the draft pick, who's starting?
39:06
SPEAKER_02: Is Ace starting?
39:07
SPEAKER_02: Is the new draft pick gonna start?
39:09
SPEAKER_02: Uh, do they trade for more their capable, uh, do they trade uh for a more capable depth piece?
39:16
SPEAKER_02: Uh, or do they trade for, you know, their do they trade their depth, they do they trade their depth for a more capable backup, or do they trade their draft capital for that?
39:26
SPEAKER_02: Like, where's that gonna come from?
39:27
SPEAKER_02: Larry Markinen staying healthy, air quotes.
39:31
SPEAKER_02: And again, you can take that either way.
39:33
SPEAKER_02: For the last three seasons, he's been injured, whether it's a real injury or a not a real injury.
39:38
SPEAKER_02: One thing you can't argue is that you can't sit for three seasons on the bench and come out and play 35 minutes, 82 games a year.
39:45
SPEAKER_02: It's just not gonna happen, especially as he's getting older.
39:48
SPEAKER_02: So we don't know what his health is gonna be.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: And I'll probably the biggest question that this team is facing, and it's going to tell you, you know, basically just how good Will Hardy is.
39:58
SPEAKER_02: The biggest question for me is going to be say whatever you want about this team.
40:02
SPEAKER_02: But for three states, three straight years, this has been a losing team.
40:08
SPEAKER_02: You are your culture, is what you are.
40:11
SPEAKER_02: This team has had a losing culture for the last three seasons.
40:14
SPEAKER_02: No one can deny that.
40:15
SPEAKER_02: They are a losing culture team.
40:17
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be up to Will Hardy to be able to flip that in one summer and make this team have go from a losing culture to a winning culture.
40:26
SPEAKER_02: So that's my argument for the team, right?
40:29
SPEAKER_02: That's why I think that that team doesn't stand a shot to win 50 games, just for the team's pass aspect.
40:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:36
SPEAKER_02: The other real dagger for this one is that this team is in the West, AJ.
40:42
SPEAKER_02: This team is in the West.
40:44
SPEAKER_02: This team is this uh conference is stacked.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: You've got uh OKC.
40:51
SPEAKER_02: You they're not going anywhere.
40:53
SPEAKER_02: You know, you have uh the uh the Spurs that are gonna have, you know, they're gonna continue to get better.
41:00
SPEAKER_02: Wick Victor Wimanyama's probably gonna be an MVP next year, front runner for MVP next year.
41:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh the Houston Rockets fell off because they didn't have their best starting uh point guard in uh what's his name?
41:11
SPEAKER_02: Um, but they're gonna be really good next year.
41:13
SPEAKER_02: You also have Dever who isn't going anywhere.
41:16
SPEAKER_02: Lakers are gonna rebuild around, you know, Luca and and uh Austin Reeves with LeBron either leaving or staying.
41:23
SPEAKER_02: Like that team's gonna get better.
41:24
SPEAKER_02: You know, Minnesota Twilight, Minnesota Timberwolves aren't going anywhere.
41:28
SPEAKER_02: That team's also gonna get better.
41:30
SPEAKER_02: They're a little bit old.
41:31
SPEAKER_02: Yes, but again, this is a team that's gonna there, they probably are gonna do more when it comes to a point guard and acquiring some talent, and they have a lot better chance.
41:39
SPEAKER_02: They have a point guard, they got Anthony Edwards, but he's not a point guard, is he?
41:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, technically.
41:44
SPEAKER_02: I think he's up like a point forward kind of he does it all, so yeah.
41:48
SPEAKER_02: Fair point.
41:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but my point is that even that, and you know, you know that the Golden State Warriors are gonna reload around Steph for one last push there.
41:56
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna see people like uh the Greek freak coming over and playing either LA or Golden State.
42:01
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna see the West get even stronger.
42:04
SPEAKER_02: And yes, the Utah Jazz have never really put their full force together to try and win with this roster.
42:10
SPEAKER_02: Are they gonna be a playoff team?
42:12
SPEAKER_02: 100% agree with you.
42:13
SPEAKER_02: Don't see any way that's not gonna happen.
42:15
SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't even think they're gonna be a play-in team, AJ.
42:18
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think that they're gonna be, you know, in that sixth spot.
42:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think they have a chance to be in that sixth spot.
42:23
SPEAKER_02: I do.
42:23
SPEAKER_02: Do I think they're actually gonna hit 50 wins?
42:27
SPEAKER_02: Not a chance.
42:27
SPEAKER_02: Not in the west.
42:28
SPEAKER_02: If they're in the east, maybe, but not in the west.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: I think the big thing that you're so your your comment on the team was is can Will Hardy turn this team from a losing culture to a winning culture?
42:43
SPEAKER_02: That's one of them.
42:44
SPEAKER_01: One of them, right?
42:45
SPEAKER_01: But I just want to comment on that one because the winning, the the changing them from a winning to a losing culture, I think he's already been coaching them to a winning culture.
42:54
SPEAKER_01: I think how the Jazz have been trying to lose is by putting players out there that aren't as talented as the other players on the other side of the floor.
43:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, quite obviously, right?
43:03
SPEAKER_01: So I think he's already got the groundwork laid for having a winning culture.
43:07
SPEAKER_01: You've already got players that are talented enough to and and want to win and are striving to winning.
43:12
SPEAKER_01: And I think that that drives this team even further because they have something to prove at this point, right?
43:18
SPEAKER_01: They they want to show the world that they're not a 22-win team.
43:20
SPEAKER_02: That's a good variable right there, that the players are gonna have to buy have a buy in there.
43:25
SPEAKER_02: But again, there's just too many things like that.
43:27
SPEAKER_02: When a team has a losing culture, it has a losing culture.
43:30
SPEAKER_02: And I'm not saying it's impossible for Will Hardy not to turn it around, but I I definitely think it's gonna be something that he's not just gonna be like, oh, wow, why are these guys fumbling in the fourth quarter late?
43:40
SPEAKER_02: Why are we blowing leads?
43:41
SPEAKER_02: You can go back to the fact for the last three seasons, your star players haven't been playing in the fourth quarter.
43:45
SPEAKER_02: Right.
43:45
SPEAKER_02: And they're gonna have to figure out how to close out games.
43:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:48
SPEAKER_02: And that's gonna take some time.
43:49
SPEAKER_02: And over that time, those are gonna those are gonna stack up some losses, and you're gonna need to have some early onset wins like this jazz team has always had to get to fifty wins.
43:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:58
SPEAKER_02: So I just kind of for That reason I think that that's going to be a problem.
44:01
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
44:02
SPEAKER_02: And then the health issue.
44:03
SPEAKER_02: Like Larry Markin, again, that's an issue.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: I think the big thing with the health issue is I think you find out, and this is kind of I think what the NBA is looking forward to, too.
44:13
SPEAKER_01: How many games does Larry Markenden actually play next year?
44:15
SPEAKER_01: Does he play 60, 65?
44:18
SPEAKER_02: I think he plays 65 games, but he's going to be limited on either that or he's not playing 30, 30 minutes a game.
44:24
SPEAKER_02: Right.
44:24
SPEAKER_02: Because the problem is he's actually been hurt.
44:27
SPEAKER_02: For he has had actual injuries.
44:29
SPEAKER_01: Very minor injuries.
44:30
SPEAKER_01: Some of them.
44:31
SPEAKER_02: Some of them have been actual injuries.
44:33
SPEAKER_02: Right?
44:33
SPEAKER_02: The back issue has been an actual issue, right?
44:35
SPEAKER_02: That was last year.
44:36
SPEAKER_01: That was last season, though.
44:37
SPEAKER_01: This year's.
44:38
SPEAKER_02: Keep in mind he's sitting on the bench for three straight years.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: You can't just come right off of being on the bench for three straight years and go out there and ball out of your mind and wear another year older.
44:49
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's just that that awesome that that fact of him coming in and being that same all-star player we had when he was an all-star star that first year, he's just it's he's not going to develop into that right off the gate.
44:58
SPEAKER_01: I would agree with that if he wasn't a professional athlete.
45:01
SPEAKER_01: There are plenty of professional athletes that are his size that aren't I just you you act like he's not in the gym training every single day and going through workaround every single day.
45:11
SPEAKER_01: Every NBA player is AJ.
45:13
SPEAKER_01: But that's what I'm saying.
45:14
SPEAKER_01: And every one of these guys he jumped back in and ball out.
45:18
SPEAKER_02: He had issues with injuries in Chicago and in Cleveland.
45:22
SPEAKER_02: He had injury issues before he came here.
45:24
SPEAKER_02: He came here and had an amazing season where injuries weren't an issue, and he became an all-star, an all-star starter, which I'm gonna keep that because that's he was an all-star starter.
45:32
SPEAKER_02: You can't take that away from him.
45:34
SPEAKER_02: But ever since then, after he signed that contract, we've asked him to sit.
45:38
SPEAKER_02: And he's been sitting for real injuries and not real injuries.
45:41
SPEAKER_02: Right.
45:41
SPEAKER_02: You can't just throw that guy back out there and say he's gonna put up 30 he's gonna put up 35 minutes a night, uh, 80 games easy, 80 games a season.
45:50
SPEAKER_02: You know, will he put up 28 minutes a game, 70 games that season?
45:55
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
45:55
SPEAKER_02: You know, what do you do?
45:56
SPEAKER_02: 35 minutes on 60, sure.
45:59
SPEAKER_02: But you can't expect him to ball out to the expect the expectation that he had that first year that he was here.
46:04
SPEAKER_01: I think the best part on the flip side to that though is you have enough young guys that have got enough minutes this year that he doesn't need to play 35 minutes a night.
46:12
SPEAKER_02: I agree with that 100%.
46:14
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
46:14
SPEAKER_01: Like that that is that is the good part because you have a Cody Williams that has a similar build, similar skill set.
46:21
SPEAKER_01: You have Bryce Senssibaugh, you have Flip, you have some of these guys that have young legs that just played a whole NBA season, that they can go out there and you don't have to run Laurie for 40 minutes a night for this team to be successful because he can come off for three or four minutes, and if you can get this team to a spot where cohesion feels more natural, they're still gonna be successful, right?
46:45
SPEAKER_01: You can you can take your lead from 10 points down to five, put Laurie back in there and still win the ball game by one.
46:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, again, my argument is not that they're not gonna make it to the playoffs.
46:54
SPEAKER_02: My argument is not that they're not gonna be a good play.
46:56
SPEAKER_02: I just think there's enough variables here that are unknown that are gonna keep that team from winning 50 games.
47:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: Well, we want to know what you guys think.
47:03
SPEAKER_01: Make sure you leave a comment down below.
47:05
SPEAKER_01: Let us know your thoughts.
47:06
SPEAKER_01: Can the Jazz win 50 next year?
47:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's gonna be so awesome, man.
47:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we have a number on the docket here that we're gonna be tracking all of next year.
47:15
SPEAKER_02: Do the jazz make it to 50 wins?
47:17
SPEAKER_02: It's something we're gonna check in and keep us honest on that one because we want to make sure you do.
47:21
SPEAKER_02: Let's hit some of these comments before we do our last subject here on the on the on the jazz here.
47:25
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we have uh this one from Car Wash channel.
47:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh jazz about to fill up the tank on Ace Bailey Mobile.
47:32
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, dude.
47:33
SPEAKER_02: He had a great season, can only gonna get better.
47:36
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I like this one.
47:37
SPEAKER_02: Jazz more like blues.
47:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love that.
47:40
SPEAKER_02: Everybody's like the Utah jazz.
47:42
SPEAKER_02: There's like there's no jazz music in Utah.
47:44
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, yeah, and show me where all the lakes are in LA.
47:49
SPEAKER_02: So it's always been one of my favorite ones.
47:51
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I like the wordplay there.
47:52
SPEAKER_02: Great on that, Greg.
47:53
SPEAKER_02: Appreciate that.
47:54
SPEAKER_02: Um, now we also have another one here from uh Greg Hawkins.
47:58
SPEAKER_02: No one wears jazz gear anymore.
47:59
SPEAKER_02: People would probably make fun of you if they saw you wearing it out and about.
48:04
SPEAKER_02: Uh, yeah, there's a little bit to that.
48:06
SPEAKER_02: Like, like if you go out with a jazz jersey on or a jazz hat, you're gonna see that whole, you know.
48:12
SPEAKER_01: I wear it all the time.
48:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're gonna get that like, oh, they suck now, you know.
48:16
SPEAKER_02: Like, I got that once at the gym.
48:18
SPEAKER_02: I wore a jazz shirt to the gym, and someone made a comment of like, are they even a team anymore?
48:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm just like, How dare you?
48:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can tell that was more the cabbage came.
48:27
SPEAKER_01: You know what I would have said visual fits.
48:28
SPEAKER_01: Check out Utah Jazz DNA.
48:29
SPEAKER_01: I can show you about it.
48:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, I had him a business card, yeah, for sure.
48:32
SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, we also have another one here uh from uh maybe how we're saying this is supposed to be JJ Jazz Force more supposed to be saying JJ Jazz Forge.
48:41
SPEAKER_02: Let me know what we're supposed to be doing there.
48:42
SPEAKER_02: But 50 wins might be quite a leap for one year.
48:45
SPEAKER_02: Uh I'm thinking more like 40.
48:47
SPEAKER_02: And see, I'm kind of right there with you, man.
48:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm actually thinking a little higher.
48:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm thinking 45 wins.
48:51
SPEAKER_02: 45 to 47.
48:53
SPEAKER_02: I just don't think they get to 50.
48:54
SPEAKER_02: Uh, Greg Hawkins.
48:55
SPEAKER_02: Uh oh, this one's for Triple J Jazz Force.
48:58
SPEAKER_02: What are you talking about?
48:59
SPEAKER_02: Sitting in Jazz Boxers, Oster Tag slippers, nothing else.
49:04
SPEAKER_02: I love it, dude.
49:05
SPEAKER_02: I love it.
49:06
SPEAKER_02: I love the the Ostertag play there.
49:08
SPEAKER_02: Throw it back, throw it back.
49:10
SPEAKER_01: I stand corrected.
49:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah.
49:13
SPEAKER_02: It's not, oh, this is great.
49:16
SPEAKER_02: It's not how marketing starts, it's how he finishes.
49:19
SPEAKER_02: I love it.
49:20
SPEAKER_02: I love it.
49:21
SPEAKER_02: That's great, man.
49:22
SPEAKER_02: That's great.
49:22
SPEAKER_02: Um, all right.
49:23
SPEAKER_02: So what we want to do here, guys, we want to go ahead and do just kind of we wanted to do our own little tank-a-thon, our own little uh pre-draft.
49:31
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna do a draft simulation, right?
49:33
SPEAKER_02: So, what we're gonna do here is we're gonna go ahead and get the old tank-a-thon up, and then over here we're gonna do, was it this one?
49:40
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
49:41
SPEAKER_02: That's the one.
49:42
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so what we have here is we have on our other screen here, we have tankathon.com.
49:47
SPEAKER_02: What we're gonna do is we're gonna run the simulator once, and wherever the jazz land, we're gonna say who the jazz are gonna draft at that position.
49:56
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
49:57
SPEAKER_02: Sound good?
49:57
SPEAKER_02: Sounds good to me.
49:58
SPEAKER_02: All right, let's do it.
49:59
SPEAKER_02: Come over here and simulate lottery.
50:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
50:06
SPEAKER_02: What?
50:08
SPEAKER_02: What?
50:11
SPEAKER_02: Hey, look at that.
50:12
SPEAKER_02: Look at that.
50:13
SPEAKER_02: Look at that.
50:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, I'm glad I did all this research for the other nine picks.
50:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was easy.
50:19
SPEAKER_02: Okay, let's do this.
50:21
SPEAKER_02: Number one overall pick.
50:22
SPEAKER_01: Who are you taking?
50:23
SPEAKER_01: Uh, if Jez picked number one overall, I I can so I can tell you who I want them to take, and I can tell you who they're going to take.
50:32
SPEAKER_01: I would like them to take Darren Peterson.
50:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
50:35
SPEAKER_01: The 6'6 guard, he's the most gifted scorer, he's a fantastic shot maker.
50:41
SPEAKER_01: This guy, great pickup.
50:43
SPEAKER_01: Um, you got a little bit of concerns with this health natural skill set, but like he he is prototypical.
50:52
SPEAKER_01: That that's who I would like to see the Jazz take.
50:54
SPEAKER_01: If the Jazz get number one overall, guaranteed 100% chance they're taking AJ Debanza.
50:59
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
50:59
SPEAKER_01: AJ Debansa.
51:00
SPEAKER_02: No doubt about it.
51:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that's who I have them taking if they get the number one overall pick.
51:04
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
51:04
SPEAKER_02: There is I mean, me too.
51:06
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
51:06
SPEAKER_02: He's the next KD.
51:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
51:08
SPEAKER_02: Without a burner.
51:10
SPEAKER_01: KD without a burner.
51:11
SPEAKER_01: And he's been on the jazz payroll for the last year anyway.
51:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
51:14
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
51:15
SPEAKER_02: Probably longer.
51:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
51:16
SPEAKER_02: Just saying.
51:17
SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, all right.
51:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, what are the odds that we get that one the number number one overall?
51:21
SPEAKER_01: That's kind of a that's really funny, actually.
51:25
SPEAKER_02: That is very funny.
51:26
SPEAKER_01: I was sure it was gonna be like three, four.
51:28
SPEAKER_01: We had some conversation.
51:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
51:31
SPEAKER_01: So okay, so let's go into it a little bit though.
51:33
SPEAKER_01: So the Jazz take AJ Divant at number one.
51:35
SPEAKER_01: Right.
51:35
SPEAKER_01: Who do you think Sacramento takes at number two?
51:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh, easily Darren Peterson.
51:39
SPEAKER_01: See, I could see Sacramento.
51:41
SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't know if they have as much need for Darren Peterson.
51:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, they got rid of what's his name, they traded him to uh uh San Antonio.
51:46
SPEAKER_02: Darren Fox.
51:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they traded Fox, their other star guard.
51:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean I guess maybe Darren Peterson, but I don't know.
51:53
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I could see them.
51:55
SPEAKER_01: No, I mean I guess I guess maybe I I don't I don't think they take Camboozer at two.
52:00
SPEAKER_01: I think you go Darren Peterson, I think you're right.
52:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because they have what's his name, the guy who like ruined uh Kessler's year two, um, still there.
52:07
SPEAKER_02: DeMontus Sabonis.
52:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that dude.
52:09
SPEAKER_02: I freaking hate that dude.
52:10
SPEAKER_01: I don't like Sabonis either.
52:11
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of a jack wagon, yeah.
52:13
SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, so Sabonis, I think they have him there.
52:15
SPEAKER_02: And again, if you're taking the top five, you're expecting these guys to be a starter.
52:18
SPEAKER_01: So absolutely, yeah.
52:20
SPEAKER_02: Uh, but yeah, so Memphis.
52:21
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so we got we got Utah Jazz taking AJ number one.
52:25
SPEAKER_02: We both agree on that.
52:26
SPEAKER_02: Um again, it you just with his ceiling, are you gonna start playing?
52:31
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna you're gonna that's perfect for walk uh for Larry Marketing because then you're only paying him, playing him 25 minutes a game.
52:39
SPEAKER_01: It's that DiBance is a good pick for that reason.
52:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's gonna get plenty of developmental minutes.
52:45
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna be playing with veteran players that can teach him the game at a much faster pace.
52:49
SPEAKER_01: You're on a team that's trying to win basketball games.
52:52
SPEAKER_02: There are three positions you could throw him in there, three players that are starters you could throw AJ in over.
52:57
SPEAKER_02: And honestly, I don't know, dude.
52:58
SPEAKER_02: Would you start him over?
52:59
SPEAKER_02: Who would you start him?
53:00
SPEAKER_02: Because you're not starting him in a power forward because you just trade the city.
53:03
SPEAKER_01: He's the number one over pick.
53:04
SPEAKER_01: He's starting over Ace Bailey for sure.
53:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he's not gonna be a number two, like you know, he's too big to be a number two.
53:10
SPEAKER_02: Do you move Larry Market into the two?
53:13
SPEAKER_02: No, he's seven foot one.
53:16
SPEAKER_02: But he's the three, so you got a big lineup.
53:20
SPEAKER_02: AJ DeBanza did lead the nation in scoring this year, did did set the record there for scoring.
53:26
SPEAKER_02: So maybe you put him at it at the two question mark.
53:31
SPEAKER_02: Like I don't know, man.
53:33
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, Darren.
53:34
SPEAKER_02: You you play him though.
53:35
SPEAKER_02: You play him.
53:35
SPEAKER_02: You play him.
53:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the next coming of KD, you know, without the burner.
53:40
SPEAKER_02: You just put him out there.
53:41
SPEAKER_02: He's starting.
53:41
SPEAKER_02: That's what happened.
53:42
SPEAKER_01: He's smaller than KD.
53:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean, KD is like seven foot though.
53:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I I don't know.
53:46
SPEAKER_02: I just think that there's yeah, there's so much potential there, dude.
53:49
SPEAKER_02: Just so much potential.
53:50
SPEAKER_02: Like, easily gonna be, you know, as long as he stays healthy.
53:54
SPEAKER_02: Hall of Fame all the time.
53:55
SPEAKER_01: If the Jazz get one overall, it's Dibanza.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: It's Dibanza for sure.
53:58
SPEAKER_02: So then we got Memphis at three, um, going up three spots.
54:02
SPEAKER_02: So what do you have them taking?
54:04
SPEAKER_01: I I could see them taking Boozer.
54:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Boozer.
54:08
SPEAKER_02: They lost Triple J.
54:09
SPEAKER_01: Yep, they still got John Morant.
54:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean that Boozer's that replacement guy for Triple J.
54:15
SPEAKER_01: I mean that's that's a perfect fit.
54:17
SPEAKER_01: And you're if you're Memphis moving up three spots, you're totally happy taking one of I mean, he just won the Nazmith and the AP player of the year.
54:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:28
SPEAKER_01: I I I don't love his comparisons to Sabonis and Kevin Love.
54:32
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, me neither.
54:34
SPEAKER_01: He's a a really talented offensive player.
54:37
SPEAKER_01: He's not gonna be the defensive player that Triple J was, but you take Boozer for sure at three.
54:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:41
SPEAKER_02: Do you think uh Brooklyn goes with uh Caleb Wilson and North Carolina?
54:47
SPEAKER_01: Um I think that's probably the safest bet at four, for sure.
54:51
SPEAKER_01: I mean they have some good guards there.
54:53
SPEAKER_01: It's not like they're gonna be looking to take a guard.
54:55
SPEAKER_01: Right.
54:56
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I think I think I think for sure Caleb Wilson.
55:00
SPEAKER_02: So does well does Washington take our boy?
55:02
SPEAKER_02: Kingston Flemings?
55:04
SPEAKER_02: Sorry, Keat Keaton Wiegger.
55:05
SPEAKER_02: Keaton Weiger, yeah.
55:07
SPEAKER_02: Keaton Waggler.
55:08
SPEAKER_02: Sorry, not Keaton Wagner.
55:08
SPEAKER_01: I think Waggler could go at five.
55:10
SPEAKER_02: I think he's going at five.
55:12
SPEAKER_01: Um to Washington, that's probably a nice pickup, too.
55:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:15
SPEAKER_02: I think Kingston's going to Indiana.
55:18
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
55:19
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's actually gonna be to the Clippers.
55:22
SPEAKER_02: Oh, so that's the Clippers pick.
55:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because if Indiana moves up to four, they send it to the Clippers.
55:27
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
55:27
SPEAKER_02: So okay.
55:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
55:29
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
55:30
SPEAKER_02: That's interesting.
55:31
SPEAKER_02: So then the rest of it would be uh Darius Acuff Jr.
55:34
SPEAKER_02: Actually, what hang on a second, wouldn't he go like this guy's shooting at the draft boards?
55:39
SPEAKER_02: We see him being that low.
55:41
SPEAKER_01: Waggler?
55:42
SPEAKER_02: Or no Acuff Jr.
55:43
SPEAKER_02: We see him being at the seventh spot in this draft.
55:48
SPEAKER_01: I I think we'll find out more about Acuff when we start doing some of these pre-draft workouts.
55:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, probably.
55:55
SPEAKER_01: You'll you'll see more how he like how these guys perform in some of these are are just is just gonna tell a whole lot more.
56:02
SPEAKER_02: For sure, for sure.
56:03
SPEAKER_02: So um, but yeah, I just think that's hilarious.
56:06
SPEAKER_02: I think that's hilarious.
56:07
SPEAKER_02: I think we don't touch it because that's just gonna send some good juju out there.
56:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's do it.
56:12
SPEAKER_02: Let's just leave that.
56:13
unknown: Yeah.
56:13
SPEAKER_02: Just leave that there.
56:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, we want to know what you think, folks, when it comes to that.
56:17
SPEAKER_02: We'll take it.
56:17
SPEAKER_02: Jazz get the number one overall pick.
56:19
SPEAKER_02: Jazz get number one overall pick.
56:20
SPEAKER_02: We'll take it.
56:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh AJ Davenza all the way.
56:23
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
56:24
SPEAKER_02: We'll take it.
56:24
SPEAKER_02: Um, you let us know what you guys think there.
56:27
SPEAKER_02: Funny.
56:29
SPEAKER_02: That wrecked that whole thing.
56:30
SPEAKER_02: We had like a whole segment we were gonna do.
56:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're like, there's no way they're gonna run into the again.
56:38
SPEAKER_02: We want to hear from you folks.
56:39
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below on anything we talked about today uh when it comes to the Utah Jazz.
56:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, again, you know, what are your expectations for next year?
56:47
SPEAKER_02: Uh, where do you think or where do you hope the jazz land in the draft this season?
56:51
SPEAKER_02: We want to this summer.
56:52
SPEAKER_02: We want to hear from you.
56:52
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
56:55
SPEAKER_02: Do it.
56:56
SPEAKER_02: All right, let's go ahead and get into a little bit about Major League Baseball.
57:00
SPEAKER_01: Heck yeah.
57:09
SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
57:10
SPEAKER_02: So uh AJ, you're a Braves fan.
57:13
SPEAKER_02: I am.
57:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so a lot of Braves uh led by the GM, um Alex and Thoppolis, um aggressively sign their young core talent players to long-term contract extensions early in their careers.
57:24
SPEAKER_02: Yes, right?
57:25
SPEAKER_02: And um often before, you know, or during their first couple of years, before they're even arbitrarily ever eligible, uh, the strategy is proven for different reasons there.
57:36
SPEAKER_02: Um, and this is something that the Braves have been doing for quite a long time.
57:40
SPEAKER_02: I think you have a couple examples of this.
57:41
SPEAKER_01: Oh, we got multiple examples too.
57:43
SPEAKER_01: And it's funny because I don't think I realized that they'd done that with this many players.
57:48
SPEAKER_01: So in 2019, the Braves signed two players to long-term contracts before they hit arbitration.
57:53
SPEAKER_01: That was Ronald Acunia Jr., that's Mr.
57:56
SPEAKER_01: Stolen Bases equals MVP.
57:58
SPEAKER_01: Shirt on its way.
57:59
SPEAKER_02: Check it out for sure.
58:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then Ozzie Albies.
58:02
SPEAKER_01: So Acunya in 2020 in 2019 signed an eight-year deal worth$100 million.
58:09
SPEAKER_01: That's one year after this guy comes into the league.
58:12
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then they sign Ozzie Albies to a seven-year deal worth$35 million.
58:18
SPEAKER_01: Same year.
58:22
SPEAKER_02: Right.
58:22
SPEAKER_01: Right.
58:23
SPEAKER_01: So he's only been in the league a couple years.
58:25
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then and then fast forward a couple years, 2022, they trade for Matt Olson and then sign him to an eight-year contract for$168 million, which was the largest in Braves' history in 2022.
58:41
SPEAKER_01: Um they bought out his arbitration years and obviously a few of his extension years with that contract, signing him through 2030.
58:50
SPEAKER_01: Um, then they do the same thing with Spencer Strider that year, sign him to a six-year,$75 million contract, um, with an option for his seventh year, which would make his total contract value$92 million at that time.
59:02
SPEAKER_01: The largest contract for a pitcher with less than one year of service time.
59:07
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
59:07
SPEAKER_01: Um 2023, the Braves added again.
59:11
SPEAKER_01: Austin Riley loses his arbitration case.
59:15
SPEAKER_01: Where okay, well, this is different.
59:16
SPEAKER_01: He made it to arbitration, though.
59:18
SPEAKER_01: Made it to arbitration, he loses it, and then the Braves go on to sign him to a 10-year,$212 million extension.
59:25
SPEAKER_01: So uh you guessed it, largest contract in team history at that time, one year later.
59:31
SPEAKER_02: You guys had you guys had Freddie Freeman on your team.
59:34
SPEAKER_02: All these contracts should not have been the biggest when you got a guy like Freddie Freeman on your team.
59:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and anyway.
59:39
SPEAKER_01: I mean, and that puts Riley through contract under through 2023, and then they signed Michael Harris to an eight-year$72 million contract.
59:47
SPEAKER_01: So the Braves got a bunch of these players, and it's all their core players, too, right?
59:51
SPEAKER_01: Like this is this is the guys that you turn on Braves baseball, and that's who it is.
59:56
SPEAKER_01: That's who you're watching, and these are the players you love to watch.
59:58
SPEAKER_01: Like as a Braves fan, I mean Ozzie Albi's been great, but you can feel more of these contracts coming.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they got um Drake Baldwin right now, who just won National League Rookie of the Year.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_01: Super cool.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_01: Playing out of his mind.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_01: He's got one of these big contracts coming.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, they're gonna sign him to a 10-year$150 million contract or whatever it turns out to be.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_01: And they've done it, they've done it so smart because they front load all these contracts where they're paying them seven, eight million dollars a year for their first couple years, and then they slowly gross it up, and then by the time they're done with it, they pay them 23 million.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_01: Which will be so far below market value.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_02: It's insane.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_01: Ridiculously below market value at that point.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that I'll be that Ozzie Albies contract, that feels like you stole him for that.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_01: Seven years, 35 million, five million dollars a year is what they pay Ozzie Albies.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's that's gotta be like, oh my gosh, dude.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_01: But the kid's 21 years old.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_01: He's played for he's played baseball for three seasons and gets a 35.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna say no to it?
1:01:00
SPEAKER_01: You have no idea what the rest is.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_01: And it's an Albies contract is fully guaranteed.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_02: Uh if I was Ozzie Albez, I would have said no to that contract.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_02: 100%.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_02: You gotta bet on yourself, dude.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_02: Like arbitration when one arbitration, two years of arbitration, and you make that entire contract when you were the best second baseman in baseball.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_02: Like, come on.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_02: Ozzie Albees, no, I would not sign that contract.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_02: Uh, but then again, like to him, that's uh uh like generational money, yeah.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_02: And to anybody else practically, but yeah, especially to somebody like that, you know, Ozzie Albees, that's gonna be like, you know, he's gonna be like, what else do I need after that?
1:01:36
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_02: I think that's something that Acunya actually said after you signed his contract, like, how much money do I actually need?
1:01:40
SPEAKER_02: You know, so but yeah, I mean the reason why I brought this up and the reason why I asked you to kind of go through that is there's obvious reasons why they do this, right?
1:01:47
SPEAKER_02: The strategy for this uh is basically giving that team cost certainty and guaranteed financial security for the players.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_02: You know, they're when they're young, they don't know if they're gonna make it to arbitration helpfully, and if they do, you know, are they gonna win or are they gonna lose?
1:02:00
SPEAKER_02: Like how well are they gonna be playing this way?
1:02:01
SPEAKER_02: That money's guaranteed.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_02: But really for the owners, it kind of and the teams themselves, it lets them know these are what we have on the books for the next 10 years, and we know when these players are becoming eligible, we're gonna be getting them to steal.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_02: Um, so very uh high value contracts, easily to be traded, you know, if they wanted to, you know.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_01: Because the AVs aren't crazy high.
1:02:21
SPEAKER_02: No, the A V is great.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_02: Um, this is so that's some of the Braves examples.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_02: What we've been seeing over the last couple of years, AJ, is like this is getting a ri uh really crazy.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:02:33
SPEAKER_02: So we got Jackson Cheerio in December of 2023.
1:02:36
SPEAKER_02: He signed an eight-year,$82 million contract, which is the largest uh ever given to a player before he's ever made a debut, right?
1:02:44
SPEAKER_02: So Jackson Cherio, before he ever made a debut with the Brewers, signed an eight-year,$82 million contract, set a record.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_02: And then you had Colt Emerson from the Seattle Mariners, he signed an eight-year contract back in March, worth$95 million a year, uh, despite having zero days of service time in Major League Baseball.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_02: Uh Cooper Pratt from Aucky Brewers also signed in March 2026.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_02: Uh, he secured an eight-year,$50 million deal.
1:03:10
SPEAKER_02: That deal doesn't sound great.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_02: That's like a$7 million contract every year for an infielder, your top prospect.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't know.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_02: I think that one that one's kind of like Aussie Albies contract.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_02: At that point, you're like, um, not great.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_02: That's an Aussie Albies contract, man.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so you're kind of wondering what's going on there.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_02: Um, but uh, and then the biggest one that we've heard so far, and we'll get to another one here.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, but the one that jumped out to me the most was one was recently by the Pittsburgh Pirates.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_02: These guys have Paul Skeens on their team.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_02: Paul Skeins is on their team.
1:03:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:03:46
SPEAKER_02: Reigning Cy Young Award winner.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_02: But no, they give Connor Griffin, he signed a nine-year,$140 million contract before he ever made his MLB debut.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_02: And then today, today we had Kevin McGonagall, the professor.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_02: For those of you who know, you know.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_02: Uh 17 games into his MLB career, signing an eight-year,$150 million deal with the Detroit Tigers.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_02: This is getting crazy, dude.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_02: Like, there is so much of this.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_02: Now, again, like we talked about, there's cost certainty and savings for the teams, right?
1:04:23
SPEAKER_02: There's reasons why they do this.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_02: You know, you prevent future uh free agency, you know.
1:04:29
SPEAKER_02: I think there's kind of like a little, you know, service time manipulation.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_02: You don't have to worry about that anymore because you got a guaranteed contract.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_02: Like as a player, you don't have to worry about them keeping you down in the minors so they can get an extra year of control.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_02: You know, there's a whole you know, there's a whole bunch of that stuff going on.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_02: Um but to me, man, none of that explains why this is happening so much this season.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_02: Um, is it just the impending lockout that everybody's talking about for why we're seeing that so much of this this year?
1:04:55
SPEAKER_01: I I think lockout has something to do with it, and I think it is I think it is trying to keep up with the Joneses, and the Joneses are the Dodgers.
1:05:04
unknown: Okay.
1:05:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean you think about that though, like what they're what they're trying to do is lock up players early, get them under team control for as long as they can.
1:05:13
SPEAKER_01: It's pretty much all of these teams are making their bets early, pushing the chips in, locking them down, because if you if you push them in and you win, you reap the rewards, right?
1:05:27
SPEAKER_01: And if not, how much how much risk is there really for a team when you've got a player that's on a five-year AAV annual contract?
1:05:38
SPEAKER_02: Five year AAV?
1:05:39
SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_01: Five million a year AAV contract.
1:05:43
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
1:05:44
SPEAKER_01: Like now, it at the contract it's 17 million.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, there's a little bit more risk there, but but there's a reason because you have a player that you felt that was worth the the the risk to reward on this player was a little bit higher.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_01: They've obviously proven something to you and 12 games or whatever that might be.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_01: So I don't I don't know.
1:06:04
SPEAKER_01: I think it's I think it's good.
1:06:07
SPEAKER_01: I think it's good.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_01: I think I think them doing this with these players, I think it helps you it helps players know that they can go out there, play in 10 games, and win a life-changing contract.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_01: So they're gonna yeah, they're they're gonna go for it.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_01: Where if you you know, before if you if you go out there and you totally tank it in your first ten games, yeah, you know.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_01: But now if you go out there and you ball out in your ten games, you've got a chance to win life-changing money.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and some of these cop prospects that aren't even in the league, haven't been to the league yet, and signed these contracts, they have a slow start, doesn't matter.
1:06:50
SPEAKER_02: They're guaranteed their money anyway.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, so it's yeah, they're not really gonna worry about that.
1:06:54
SPEAKER_02: You want to hear my conspiracy theory on this one?
1:06:56
SPEAKER_01: I would love to.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_02: I think this is a play by the owners to reset the market.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_02: If all the future talent is underneath guaranteed contracts where everybody's making less than 20 million a year, when that next contract comes up and they're making, you know, they're like, oh, now we're gonna pay you forty-five million a year instead of the 50 million, 60 million dollar players, 60 million dollar a year, these players are getting now.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_02: I think what they're trying to do is they're trying to say, hey, we're gonna give you some money up front.
1:07:25
SPEAKER_02: It's a great point though.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_02: And then the next contract, you're not gonna get as much as like, you know, uh, you know, for example, like we already agreed to pay you a hundred million dollars.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_02: So your next contract where you sign for another like eight years and your AAV is 40 million.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_02: That's pretty good, right?
1:07:42
SPEAKER_02: That's a 200 million dollar contract.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_01: But also you reset the arbitration too.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_01: There's no arbitration on what because Well, but what I'm saying is arbitration values are now driving down way further because you have all these players playing in positions.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_01: Based off of what they're making, based on what all these other top players are are making, and their AAVs are lower because they're backloading contracts.
1:08:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because it'd be based off a cost of the city.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_02: I think it's a good point.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_02: I honestly think that's what's going on here because the CBA is gonna come in, something's gonna change about it, and what they're trying to do is they're trying to reset the market, I think.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_02: And players aren't gonna say no to a hundred million dollars before they even enter the majors.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely not.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_02: I don't know who would.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_02: No, you know, it would take somebody like a Juan Soto or a Otani or a judge to be like, yeah, no, I'm going to free agency.
1:08:33
SPEAKER_02: This is I'm that good, I know it.
1:08:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, or uh freaking Terek Scuball who basically just walks in with his two Cy Youngs back to back and be like, You're gonna pay me what I want, you know.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_01: You'll pay me this or I'll find somebody that will.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, or you know, well, he doesn't really have a choice there, but like he, yeah, he could.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_02: If he doesn't agree to it, could he just sit out the year?
1:08:56
SPEAKER_02: No, he couldn't.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_02: He has to play.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_02: Oh, because he's under contract still.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_02: He's under contract, he's under his rookie scale contract.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_02: So he would have to play, but yeah, I don't know.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_02: It's very interesting, man.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_02: I just to me, I think that there's a lot going on here, more than meets more than just obvious, more than meets the eye here.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_02: That there's a lot of this going on this season in particular, and I think there's reasons behind it.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_02: Let's just say that.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we want to hear from you folks.
1:09:22
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to that.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_02: When you see these contracts, what are you seeing?
1:09:26
SPEAKER_02: Um, I got a comment here from um Greg Hawkins, Channel Legend.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_02: Every ball club has slightly different talent strategies.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_02: It's pretty cool to see the Braves have a good system going.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_02: For sure they do.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_02: Go, Braves.
1:09:38
SPEAKER_02: We got this nice little comment here.
1:09:40
SPEAKER_02: Uh, Dodgers are playing a good game against the Mets right now.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_02: Can't just hit a two-run bomb.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_02: Um, it's nice to know that he's playing well, you know.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_02: Now he's coming out, but not looking over his shoulder.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_02: Speaking of hitting bombs, let's go ahead and move on over and talk a little bit about.
1:09:55
SPEAKER_02: Actually, we're gonna talk about the Dodgers, AJ.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's do it.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_01: So I got a question, Darren.
1:09:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_01: When you think Dodgers, you think Shohei Otani, one of the greatest to ever play the game, right?
1:10:06
SPEAKER_01: You think Freddie Freeman hitting a game-winning grand slam.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_01: Twice.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_01: Twice.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_01: I mean, one of those wins, you know, a World Series game.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_01: You think Mookie Betts, you think big name signings, Kyle Tucker, right?
1:10:18
SPEAKER_01: Ridiculous pitchers.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_02: I think it's so funny when he Kyle Tucker, you're just like, he's such a footnote, but he's making like 60 million.
1:10:25
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:10:25
SPEAKER_01: But that's what I'm saying, right?
1:10:27
SPEAKER_01: Like you that's what that's what you're thinking, Dodgers.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_01: You think pitching Yamamoto, glass now, Sasaki, Snell.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_01: And there's one player on the Dodgers that just shows up, he does his job, he plays great in big moments, he just plays ball, right?
1:10:42
SPEAKER_01: So Max Muncie is a career 229 hitter.
1:10:46
SPEAKER_01: He hit 19 home runs last year, 67 RBIs, had a great year, 367 OBP, his war was 3.6.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_01: This guy is a great player on a great team.
1:10:58
SPEAKER_01: So is he the most underrated player in Major League Baseball?
1:11:03
SPEAKER_02: Context matters for everything.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_02: Like that's we gotta make a shirt out of that.
1:11:07
SPEAKER_02: Because I think for a lot of the time we talk when you talk baseball, I that's my first line is context matters.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_02: In this context, absolutely I have to agree with you that I think Max Muncie is easily the most underrated player in Major League Baseball.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_02: Uh, for a few reasons, right?
1:11:21
SPEAKER_02: So Max Muncie was picked up off the scrap heap by the uh Oakland Athletics.
1:11:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_02: Fun fact here do you know who the Oakland Athletics have on their team?
1:11:31
SPEAKER_02: Max Muncie.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_02: They have a player named Max Muncie.
1:11:35
SPEAKER_02: They have the same birthday too.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_02: They got a thing.
1:11:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:37
SPEAKER_02: It's just they have the same birthday.
1:11:39
SPEAKER_02: That's really weird.
1:11:40
SPEAKER_02: I think that's really, really weird.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, so um what we have here again is Max Munsey to me is the most underrated player in Major League Baseball.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_02: He signed a minor league contract uh to join the Dodgers after making some swing changes there.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_02: He played a whole two seasons with the A's.
1:11:57
SPEAKER_02: In those two seasons combined, he hit five home runs, had an OPS plus of 70, which 100 is Major League average.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_02: If you're so 70.
1:12:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh he had 17 RBI uh in those two seasons with the A's.
1:12:12
SPEAKER_02: Since joining uh the Dodgers, AJ, he's had 213 home runs, third most in LA franchise history, with an OPS plus of 128 and 591 RBI uh with the Dodgers, two-time All-Star and also three-time World Series champion.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_02: He has the franchise record for most postseason home runs at 16.
1:12:37
SPEAKER_02: He has the franchise record with most postseason walks at 60.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_02: This season, AJ, he has three games where he has six RBI or more, three multi-home run games, and two games with seven RBI and two grand slams this season.
1:12:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:12:58
SPEAKER_02: Um, so based off of that, you know, let's go ahead and take a look at uh his salary, okay?
1:13:03
SPEAKER_02: Um, I want to talk about um let's see here when it comes to you're controlling my tablet somehow.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_02: That's pretty crazy.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_02: Um so basically when it comes to major league baseball, right, um there your value is based off of you know millions per war.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so uh you mentioned there that this season, last season, sorry, uh the 2025 season, he had a 3.6 war, which actually was a down year for him, by the way.
1:13:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, not even his highest war.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, not even his highest war.
1:13:36
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so now the uh the Google machine says the war is up to nine million per war now.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_02: So based off of that, 3.6, okay, nine war.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_02: 27.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_02: So he's making about 27 million this year, right?
1:13:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean a little higher.
1:13:51
SPEAKER_01: I mean, with 3.6, he's more like 34.
1:13:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so let's just, yeah, let's just say, let's just say it's the 26, right?
1:14:00
SPEAKER_02: Let's just say on average, let's say conservatively, it's much lower.
1:14:03
SPEAKER_02: The war is much lower.
1:14:04
SPEAKER_02: 2025, you know how much money he made last season?
1:14:07
SPEAKER_01: Five million.
1:14:08
SPEAKER_02: 14 and a half.
1:14:09
SPEAKER_01: So that's a lot more than five.
1:14:10
SPEAKER_02: 14 and a half.
1:14:11
SPEAKER_02: So he made 14 and a half million last year, but you just said even on a conservative number, it should have been 27.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_02: 27.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh 2024, what was his war?
1:14:20
SPEAKER_02: If we look at his war from 2024, his war in 2024 was uh, let's see here, was a come on, man.
1:14:31
SPEAKER_02: Baseball reference is driving me nuts.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_02: Uh 2024, his war was 3-0.
1:14:36
SPEAKER_02: So it should have been like, you know, again, 27.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_02: We go to his salary, he made 9 million last year.
1:14:42
SPEAKER_02: I mean, name nine million that year.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_02: So just he's making based off his war productions, he's making a third of what he actually is.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_02: Now, this is a guy who started off with the Dodgers uh as a second baseman.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_02: He tried to make it at second base, and then he became the Dodgers first baseman, right?
1:15:00
SPEAKER_02: And then the Dodgers signed Freddie Freeman.
1:15:02
SPEAKER_02: He's like, okay, I'll play third.
1:15:03
SPEAKER_02: And so he's played second base, first base, third base.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_02: He's a natural first baseman, and now he's actually one of the probably one of the better third basemans in baseball right now.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_02: If a ball gets hit to him at 110 miles an hour, I'm not flexing.
1:15:15
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm just like this guy's good.
1:15:17
SPEAKER_02: He's got it, right?
1:15:19
SPEAKER_02: This guy has said multiple times on foul torritory, he's interviewed like every couple weeks there.
1:15:23
SPEAKER_02: He's like, as long as I'm on this team, I'm okay.
1:15:27
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:15:28
SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah, why wouldn't you be?
1:15:29
SPEAKER_02: He understands what it means to be a Dodger, he understands what kind of situation he's in.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_02: He's like, I get to play with these this wonderful organization, you know, this beautiful city.
1:15:38
SPEAKER_02: My family loves it here.
1:15:39
SPEAKER_02: They've always treated us well.
1:15:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I could go sign, you know, in Minnesota or somewhere and make 20 million a year, but I'd rather make 10 million and stay here, you know.
1:15:50
SPEAKER_02: And that's exactly what he's making this year is$10 million, basically.
1:15:53
SPEAKER_02: So um, so yeah.
1:15:56
SPEAKER_02: And then he's also got two more years, a seven million dollar team option next year, and then another team option after that for$10 million that year.
1:16:04
SPEAKER_01: Next yeah, I bet you they pick them both up.
1:16:06
SPEAKER_02: You'd be insane not to.
1:16:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:08
SPEAKER_02: Until this guy has a drop-off, it's absolutely insane.
1:16:11
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so that's just Max Muncie, man.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_02: And just talking about how we actually had a three-home run game uh the other day.
1:16:17
SPEAKER_02: And this, you know, it's not Shohei Otani doing walk-off home runs and winning games in the in the extra innings or bottom of the ninth.
1:16:25
SPEAKER_02: It's not, you know, Kyle Tucker or Will Smith or any of these guys.
1:16:30
SPEAKER_02: It's freaking Max Muncie and Andy Pahez.
1:16:33
SPEAKER_02: Like these are players that are going out there and winning games.
1:16:35
SPEAKER_02: It's coming out swinging too.
1:16:36
SPEAKER_02: So imagine how good this team's gonna be once the actual top of half of the lineup is actually performing the way they should.
1:16:43
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:16:44
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be pretty crazy.
1:16:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:46
SPEAKER_02: Pretty crazy.
1:16:47
SPEAKER_02: Um, I like some of the comments here you threw out here.
1:16:50
SPEAKER_02: Uh, Greg Hawkins, you're just naming Dodger players, I think is what you're doing here.
1:16:53
SPEAKER_02: Kyle Tucker.
1:16:54
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah.
1:16:55
SPEAKER_02: And Will Smith.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_02: Gotta love those guys.
1:16:57
SPEAKER_02: I like Will Smith.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_02: Will Smith is a legend.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_02: He's actually one of those players that are just like um uh that contract.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_02: We signed him to a 10-year,$100 million contract.
1:17:06
SPEAKER_02: He's making less than$20 million a year, and he's like easily the best catcher in baseball.
1:17:11
SPEAKER_02: Come at me, man.
1:17:12
SPEAKER_02: Kyle Raleigh, sure, sure.
1:17:14
SPEAKER_02: But who was the one who got all the starts and actually got hits in the WBC?
1:17:19
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't Kyle Raleigh, it was Max Muncie.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_01: No, it was actually Will Smith.
1:17:23
SPEAKER_02: Will Smith, not Max Muncie.
1:17:25
SPEAKER_02: Will Smith that got those starts, had a better WBC, and I think he's a better all overall catcher.
1:17:30
SPEAKER_02: Um isn't watching frustrating.
1:17:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a little bit.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a little bit.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_02: It is a little frustrating watching him.
1:17:36
SPEAKER_02: Um, not seeing him ground out to first, I'm just seeing him fly out to like center field a lot.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_02: So um, but yeah.
1:17:44
SPEAKER_02: Um anyway, so yeah, that's just something we want to talk about when it comes to the to the Max Muncie there.
1:17:49
SPEAKER_02: I see him as being one of the most underrated players in baseball.
1:17:51
SPEAKER_02: We'd love to hear from you in the comments down below.
1:17:53
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in regards to that.
1:17:55
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we had one other thing we want to talk about on baseball here.
1:17:57
SPEAKER_02: Let's go ahead and get into it.
1:17:59
SPEAKER_02: Um, what we want to do is talk about, let's go ahead and throw this back up here, AJ.
1:18:05
SPEAKER_02: Get this back up.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we're gonna share our screen here, and there are eight new uh Citiconnect jerseys in Major League Baseball this year.
1:18:15
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
1:18:16
SPEAKER_02: Now we want to go through, I'm gonna throw up all of them here, but what we're gonna do is we're just gonna do our top three because I think we're kind of running a little long here.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_02: I want to get to our our random ones here.
1:18:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so um we got all of them up here.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_02: The teams that have them are the Atlanta Braves, Baltimore Orioles, Cincinnati Reds, Kansas City Royals, Milwaukee Brewers, Pittsburgh Pirates, San Diego Padres, and the Texas Rangers.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_02: All of them have City Connect jerseys.
1:18:39
SPEAKER_02: Give me your third favorite and why.
1:18:43
SPEAKER_01: Third favorite is probably the Braves jersey.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_02: Braves jersey, okay.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_01: Coming from a Braves fan, that's probably my third favorite.
1:18:49
SPEAKER_01: That is a beautiful jersey.
1:18:51
SPEAKER_01: I love the throwback.
1:18:53
SPEAKER_01: It goes back to the 1980s, the ATL script.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_01: Those are those are just clean, dude.
1:18:59
SPEAKER_01: I mean, the curse of the powder blue you can't beat.
1:19:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:19:03
SPEAKER_01: So um I love the block ATL on the sleeve like you just showed.
1:19:07
SPEAKER_02: Um, love the A on the hat too.
1:19:09
SPEAKER_01: That's the that's the I'm I'm planning on ordering one of the throwback A hats because they're so sick.
1:19:17
SPEAKER_01: So third favorite jersey, gotta be the Braves.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_02: Believe it or not, that that's my third favorite.
1:19:22
SPEAKER_02: I actually thought it was gonna be much higher for you.
1:19:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:19:25
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so what do you have for your second favorite?
1:19:28
SPEAKER_01: I think my second favorite is probably the Reds.
1:19:31
SPEAKER_01: The Reds.
1:19:32
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:19:32
SPEAKER_01: I I love these Reds jerseys, dude.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_01: I I think the way they did that C is it's like way different than some of the other ones.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_01: I I love the the classic pinstripe.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean, to throw the sensey on there.
1:19:45
SPEAKER_01: Um there's that's that's just that's just a clean, nice looking logo.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I mean, the the back um fading on the numbers and stuff looks really good.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_01: Number two, definitely got to be the Reds.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, see, what's funny about this one is I'm not a huge fan.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_02: I like it with the pants though, too.
1:20:03
SPEAKER_02: I think that's kind of cool.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_02: It's just I think the Red Sox did it better with the Chicago Bulls jerseys last year.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that is that is a cool idea.
1:20:10
SPEAKER_02: It kind of seems like these are kind of a mimic of that.
1:20:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_02: But I do kind of see what you're talking about there.
1:20:16
SPEAKER_02: That is kind of unique, definitely not what you'd see from the Reds.
1:20:19
SPEAKER_02: Okay, very cool, very, very cool.
1:20:21
SPEAKER_02: My second favorite is simply just because of the fact actually, you know what?
1:20:25
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna go with my second favorite.
1:20:27
SPEAKER_02: Um, I want to hear because I I don't want to blow it in case it's your number one.
1:20:30
SPEAKER_02: What's your number one favorite?
1:20:32
SPEAKER_01: Pirates.
1:20:33
SPEAKER_02: The pirates.
1:20:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay, those pirates' jerseys are sick.
1:20:38
SPEAKER_02: The pirates' jerseys.
1:20:39
SPEAKER_02: Okay, let's scroll down there and get to the pirates.
1:20:41
SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_02: I gotta say, I love the text of this one.
1:20:45
SPEAKER_02: Love the text.
1:20:46
SPEAKER_02: I think it's so cool.
1:20:48
SPEAKER_02: Like it's got it like an anger to it, you know.
1:20:51
SPEAKER_02: Definitely got that swashbuckling type thing going on there.
1:20:54
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:20:54
SPEAKER_02: While still maintaining like that color palette that everybody did uh everybody in Pittsburgh's known for.
1:21:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
1:21:02
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, that that little swashbuckling.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_01: The pirate logo, especially on the hats.
1:21:09
SPEAKER_02: Are we gonna see the hat?
1:21:10
SPEAKER_02: We're not gonna see the hat.
1:21:12
SPEAKER_01: Oh no.
1:21:13
SPEAKER_01: But the pirate logo is.
1:21:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's sick.
1:21:19
SPEAKER_02: That is very, very cool.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, very, very cool.
1:21:21
SPEAKER_01: So that's that's my favorite one.
1:21:23
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so that's your favorite one.
1:21:24
SPEAKER_02: My second favorite one, believe it or not, is I'm gonna go with the scroll up, the San Diego Padres.
1:21:34
SPEAKER_02: Really?
1:21:34
SPEAKER_02: As my second favorite.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_02: The reason behind this one, AJ, is simply because of how ugly their current one is.
1:21:43
SPEAKER_02: That highlighter explosion all over the white piece of paper that they have now that just looks absolutely ugly.
1:21:49
SPEAKER_02: They take this color palette and they go over the so ugly.
1:21:53
SPEAKER_02: I like this one secondary simply because I like the text, I like the numbers.
1:21:58
SPEAKER_02: Um, I love the Day of the Dead thing on there on the shoulder.
1:22:02
SPEAKER_02: I think that's so cool.
1:22:03
SPEAKER_02: Um, pinstripes are nice, but I mainly like this one.
1:22:07
SPEAKER_02: This one got second for me because of how ugly their last ones were.
1:22:11
SPEAKER_02: That is the primary reason.
1:22:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh, just so bad.
1:22:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay, fair enough.
1:22:15
SPEAKER_02: So, so bad.
1:22:17
SPEAKER_02: Um, but my number one, AJ, is gonna be the Kansas City Royals.
1:22:21
SPEAKER_02: I I really like these.
1:22:23
SPEAKER_02: I actually really do like these.
1:22:25
SPEAKER_02: And believe it or not, I like these ones enough to where it actually makes me like the Dodgers current City Edition ones better.
1:22:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:22:31
SPEAKER_02: The hat kind of came around on me, but I never really liked the jerseys.
1:22:34
SPEAKER_02: I still have complaints about that one.
1:22:35
SPEAKER_02: Like, why do the numbers disappear around the name?
1:22:38
SPEAKER_02: Still doesn't make any sense to me.
1:22:40
SPEAKER_02: But I love this one because I love again that royal color.
1:22:43
SPEAKER_02: Um, and I really like just kind of the scripting of that.
1:22:46
SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if we get to see the hats.
1:22:49
SPEAKER_02: Um, but again, the number blocking and everything on here is just really cool on the sleeve and the hats.
1:22:55
SPEAKER_02: So you're gonna see it here, but on the hats, they got that that uh that crown uh logo that we have like right that one, yeah.
1:23:03
SPEAKER_02: On uh like a faded color on top of the the hat like fades down.
1:23:07
SPEAKER_02: The helmet like actually fades down like that.
1:23:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, on the helmet.
1:23:11
SPEAKER_02: Yes, and then like the hat has the blue with that little thing there, and uh yeah, that's my favorite out of those ones.
1:23:18
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah.
1:23:19
SPEAKER_02: I like it.
1:23:19
SPEAKER_01: I the the Royals was a tough one for me because I do like that.
1:23:22
SPEAKER_01: I don't like the Baltimore ones at all.
1:23:23
SPEAKER_01: Be more, be more what?
1:23:25
SPEAKER_02: Be more creative, yeah.
1:23:27
SPEAKER_02: Like horrible.
1:23:29
SPEAKER_02: I don't get that one, honestly.
1:23:31
SPEAKER_02: Um, and like the other one that I'm kind of not, I think this is kind of cool for the brewers at Wisco, Wisconsin, you know, because they already are Milwaukee, so the city edition, and they're gonna do that.
1:23:41
SPEAKER_02: But like Wisco, like, what's brewers about this?
1:23:44
SPEAKER_02: You know, I don't really like that.
1:23:45
SPEAKER_01: There's nothing brewers about that jersey, yeah.
1:23:47
SPEAKER_02: And the Texas Tejas, I understand what they're doing there, uh, with kind of like a Spanish alternate thing there.
1:23:53
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
1:23:54
SPEAKER_02: Uh, but yeah, just going all red for me.
1:23:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like all red, like there's so much more you could have done with that.
1:24:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm just not a fan for sure.
1:24:02
SPEAKER_02: Not a fan.
1:24:03
SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, we want to know for you what you think, folks.
1:24:05
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
1:24:06
SPEAKER_02: Which one was your favorite alternate jersey?
1:24:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we've got a couple here from Greg Hawkins we want to jump into real quick.
1:24:12
SPEAKER_02: Um, let's see here.
1:24:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, first one from here is like I think the brewers have the best one.
1:24:19
SPEAKER_02: Okay, he got the whisk one.
1:24:21
SPEAKER_02: He likes the whiskow.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_02: Um, I like the scripting.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_02: The scripting's a bit familiar.
1:24:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh, but uh the color combination is kind of cool.
1:24:29
SPEAKER_02: I like the W on the hat, that's kind of cool.
1:24:31
SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, so this one here, I love the rainbow rhetoric on the brewery on the brewer's jersey, touching an homage to the city fans and the love for the uh LGBT LGBT culture.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_02: Um I didn't see that.
1:24:45
SPEAKER_01: I didn't notice that either, actually.
1:24:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna have to go down and check it out.
1:24:52
SPEAKER_02: Are they not in here?
1:24:54
SPEAKER_02: Did we skip past it?
1:24:55
SPEAKER_01: Oh, there it is.
1:24:57
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, the gradient on the numbers.
1:24:58
SPEAKER_02: Check that out.
1:24:59
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
1:25:00
SPEAKER_01: I did not know that.
1:25:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I didn't notice that.
1:25:03
SPEAKER_01: Still my least favorite.
1:25:04
SPEAKER_01: The pirates, Greg.
1:25:06
SPEAKER_01: Them pirates jerseys, though.
1:25:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
1:25:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
1:25:10
SPEAKER_02: I I I never see that here.
1:25:11
SPEAKER_02: Let's do a quick share so I can show it.
1:25:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I didn't notice the color gradient there.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_02: Very cool.
1:25:16
SPEAKER_02: Very cool.
1:25:16
SPEAKER_02: All right, before we get out of here, we have a couple things we want to talk about.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_02: AJ, what is your baseball comment of the week?
1:25:22
SPEAKER_02: What's your story of the week you wanted to bring up?
1:25:25
SPEAKER_01: Um so this is this is uh did you see that on Monday we had nine players hit two home runs in a single game?
1:25:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
1:25:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:25:37
SPEAKER_01: This is not it just happened to be two of them playing in the same game.
1:25:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:25:42
SPEAKER_01: Aaron Judge and Mike Trout just happened to have a home run derby in the middle of a baseball game.
1:25:46
SPEAKER_01: That game was probably gonna go down as one of the best regular season games of all time.
1:25:50
SPEAKER_02: Crazy.
1:25:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:25:51
SPEAKER_02: Crazy game.
1:25:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:25:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:25:53
SPEAKER_02: Those guys just going back to back at it.
1:25:55
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, here's a two-run bomb, here's here's a solo home run, here's a two-run bomb to tie it up.
1:26:00
SPEAKER_02: Pretty cool.
1:26:01
SPEAKER_01: That's not even the most home runs ever hit in a single day.
1:26:04
SPEAKER_01: Back in 2019, 10 players had two run home runs in a single day, but that was played over 15 games.
1:26:12
SPEAKER_01: Um, the two of the nine players that hit two home runs in a single game was played over a 10-game period.
1:26:18
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
1:26:18
SPEAKER_01: So this is the most home runs to games played in a single day per per in a in a percentage base.
1:26:26
SPEAKER_02: That is crazy.
1:26:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:26:28
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so I got two that I want to bring up.
1:26:30
SPEAKER_02: Like, and you tell me which way you want to go on this one.
1:26:33
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'm ready.
1:26:34
SPEAKER_02: Do you want like a Hollywood Feel-Good story?
1:26:37
SPEAKER_02: Or do you want like oh my gosh, I can't believe they didn't do that story?
1:26:45
SPEAKER_01: Hollywood Feel Good.
1:26:47
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:26:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:26:48
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so let's go back to the 2025 World Series, if we must.
1:26:53
SPEAKER_02: I know, gosh.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be tough for me to talk about.
1:26:58
SPEAKER_01: How would it be to be a Dodgers fan?
1:27:00
SPEAKER_02: I think I'd have to actually bring it up for both stories.
1:27:03
SPEAKER_02: Um, but the you know the Dodgers had a pretty stacked starting rotation and a stated um uh bullpen, right?
1:27:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but there's one very more very important uh piece to that bullpen that was missing, and that was Alex Vesia.
1:27:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:27:16
SPEAKER_02: Alex Vesia did not jump was not part of the World Series.
1:27:20
SPEAKER_02: Even the Brewers, not the Brewers, the Blue Jays relievers, put his number 51 on their hats in a way to pay homage.
1:27:27
SPEAKER_02: We won't go into too much of it, but he, due to a family emergency, due to a loss of a child, he was not there for the World Series.
1:27:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, a couple games ago, AJ, and this I think was actually last game.
1:27:41
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, it was last game.
1:27:43
SPEAKER_02: So not the one against the against the uh Mets today, it's the one prior.
1:27:48
SPEAKER_02: Um the Dodgers have a two to one lead, right?
1:27:53
SPEAKER_02: Off of a Kyle Tucker R RBI single.
1:27:56
SPEAKER_02: Dropped the ball in.
1:27:57
SPEAKER_02: Kyle Tucker got an RBI single.
1:27:59
SPEAKER_02: And You know, the Dodgers have this stat rotation, right?
1:28:03
SPEAKER_02: They have, you know, you know, they have cut they have anyway.
1:28:08
SPEAKER_02: Before we get into that, let's go ahead and talk about the game.
1:28:10
SPEAKER_02: Like you're laughing about over there.
1:28:13
SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
1:28:14
SPEAKER_02: So we have again, so the Dodgers, they have a healthcare workers' appreciation night, right?
1:28:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:28:21
SPEAKER_02: And so during Alex Fessi's time away from the team, he he and his wife were at the hospital and they had a bunch of doctors and nurses that were helping them out.
1:28:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:28:29
SPEAKER_02: Alex Fessi put them in a suite at Dodger Stadium for this game.
1:28:32
SPEAKER_02: He has not seen these people since that incident that they had last year, right?
1:28:37
SPEAKER_02: But he puts them up in the suite.
1:28:39
SPEAKER_02: He robbed him down.
1:28:40
SPEAKER_02: They got to be on the field before the game started and got to see some of the Dodger Stadium, some of the back behind the scenes stuff.
1:28:47
SPEAKER_02: These workers that were there for him and his wife, uh, that he hasn't seen since then.
1:28:51
SPEAKER_02: You know, he got to put them up in the in the suite and everything, right?
1:28:54
SPEAKER_02: So very touching moment, right?
1:28:56
SPEAKER_02: That he's back in.
1:28:58
SPEAKER_02: Well, this is a close game, man.
1:28:59
SPEAKER_02: It's one to one going into the into the eighth inning.
1:29:02
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, the Mets starter, I think his name is Oh gosh, he was for the he was one of our better pitchers from the WBC.
1:29:09
SPEAKER_02: Um anyway, but it was also against um Yamamoto.
1:29:14
SPEAKER_02: They both only gave up like one run.
1:29:16
SPEAKER_02: Oh, geez.
1:29:16
SPEAKER_02: So they were shoving, right?
1:29:18
SPEAKER_02: It was one-one.
1:29:19
SPEAKER_02: And then in like the eighth inning, Kyle Tucker hit a little bloop single that scored an RBI.
1:29:23
SPEAKER_02: So the Dodgers are winning two to one.
1:29:24
SPEAKER_02: The Dodgers bullpen, they have um, they have, you know, Edwin Diaz, he's our closer.
1:29:31
SPEAKER_02: We signed him to be our closer, right?
1:29:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:29:33
SPEAKER_02: He pitched the day before, his velocity's down a little bit.
1:29:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we'll set you down.
1:29:36
SPEAKER_02: They have Blake Trinan, they have Tanner Scott, they have all these great arms on that team, right?
1:29:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:29:44
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:29:44
SPEAKER_02: It comes down to saving the game, they bring in Alex Bessia.
1:29:49
SPEAKER_02: And Alex Bessia goes out there and strikes out the side to end the game.
1:29:54
SPEAKER_01: All three?
1:29:55
SPEAKER_02: All three.
1:29:56
SPEAKER_02: No way.
1:29:57
SPEAKER_02: Strikes out the side on healthcare workers' appreciation night, where he, the nerd, the doctors and nurses that helped him out and his wife out personally were in the in a suite in the stands there the whole game.
1:30:09
SPEAKER_02: Perfect little Hollywood ending for uh actually kind of gives me chills.
1:30:12
SPEAKER_01: Like that's that's actually a really cool story.
1:30:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:30:15
SPEAKER_02: So not only did the Dodgers like have the foresight be like, no, we're gonna let Vesia take this one, let him get the safe, you know.
1:30:21
SPEAKER_02: Of all days.
1:30:22
SPEAKER_02: Of all days, you know, just go out there and just shove.
1:30:24
SPEAKER_02: And you know, the fact that he's been so great about it, he didn't owe anybody anything.
1:30:28
SPEAKER_02: But before the season started, he had a he had a statement that he read to the to the press and everything to let him know what happened and everything.
1:30:35
SPEAKER_02: Really great that a player will tell you that kind of stuff, but you're not owed that at all.
1:30:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
1:30:40
SPEAKER_02: And the fact that he's using baseball as a way to kind of get through the loss, you know, and then to have a game like that on a night like that where you just come in, you absolutely shove, strike out the side, you know, and then basically get to scream and walk off the field, point to that suite to everybody that everybody's up there, yeah, you know, and give them one of those.
1:30:58
SPEAKER_02: It's cool.
1:30:58
SPEAKER_01: It's a really cool moment.
1:31:00
SPEAKER_02: Great story.
1:31:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:31:01
SPEAKER_02: Um, anyway, folks, we want to hear from you.
1:31:02
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below on anything we talked about baseball today.
1:31:06
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna hit some of these comments before we get out of here.
1:31:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we have uh one here from Greg Hawkins, Shadow Legend.
1:31:12
SPEAKER_02: The Dodgers have a stat rotation and a stacked bullpen and a stacked lineup, backups, coaching staff, and pockets.
1:31:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think you I think you nailed it there.
1:31:22
SPEAKER_02: I think you nailed it.
1:31:23
SPEAKER_02: If only we could fix Roki Sasaki, we'll be all right, you know.
1:31:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh and then we have a comment from a friend of the channel, Tammy Price.
1:31:30
SPEAKER_02: Great to see you.
1:31:31
SPEAKER_02: Vessi is so great.
1:31:32
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
1:31:33
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1:32:06
SPEAKER_02: With all that said, my name is Darren.
1:32:07
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1:32:11
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1:32:12
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