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- 0:00Hello there and welcome back to
- 0:01Hydroponics Daily, your go-to podcast for everything soilless cultivation.
- 0:06I'm your host, Dr. Russell Sharp, and as I said at the end of yesterday's episode,
- 0:10my doctor, my GP, has asked me whether white rice is a source of arsenic,
- 0:16whether that's true or not.
- 0:17And so I thought I'd go into arsenic and where you
- 0:21can get it from crops and what
- 0:24you can do about it so there are
- 0:27two forms of arsenic arsenic is well let's talk about
- 0:29arsenic to begin with arsenic is a heavy metal it's in
- 0:33it's a it's on the periodic table so it's an element
- 0:36so you can't create it or destroy it
- 0:39that's important because when you pollute soil it's it's.
- 0:43Going to stay around for a long time it's not going to decompose or
- 0:46rot away said in a previous episode that
- 0:49people often get confused between arsenic and cyanide because they're
- 0:52sort of those sort of poisons that
- 0:55you find in you know Hercule Poirot or
- 0:59Agatha Christie novels whereas they're completely different
- 1:02cyanide is an organic compound that can be broken down
- 1:05whereas arsenic is is always around and so
- 1:08when it comes to contamination of soils then
- 1:11arsenic is much more of a bigger deal and there's two
- 1:14crops where it's a big issue the first is in
- 1:17rice and it occurs
- 1:20in two types forms in rice well in
- 1:23all crops really inorganic arsenic which is
- 1:25just the the the compound itself or
- 1:28organic arsenic where it's combined with like sugars
- 1:31into a form that can be moved around
- 1:34the plants now it there's naturally occurring arsenic
- 1:37in soil and groundwater and most of the
- 1:40time the it's going to be in an unavailable form
- 1:43so even though it's in the soil your plants can't
- 1:46actually absorb it so you might analyze the soil and
- 1:49find there's high levels of arsenic but it doesn't necessarily mean that
- 1:52it's going to be in the crop so how does it get into rice
- 1:55well when grown in paddy fields.
- 1:58The flooded conditions can mobilize the arsenic making
- 2:01it more bioavailable when the oxygen levels
- 2:04decrease and it becomes anaerobic or anoxic that's
- 2:07another word for it lack of oxygen then they
- 2:11can the arsenic level can be can turn into
- 2:13a form that's absorbed it can be reduced into a
- 2:16reduced form and then that's taken up
- 2:19by the plants so chemically reduced if you don't know what that is then you
- 2:22know it's basic chemistry have a look up so that's why you get more arsenic
- 2:26in rice than you would any other crops because that's a crop that where the
- 2:30roots are routinely exposed to flooded conditions so maybe like water chestnuts would be another crop.
- 2:38Perhaps, or maybe cranberries.
- 2:39I don't know what arsenic levels are in cranberries. If you know, let me know.
- 2:42And then there are some countries with higher levels of arsenic around,
- 2:46like Bangladesh, India, parts of the US even.
- 2:49And all three of those will be areas where they grow rice.
- 2:53The US is a big producer of rice. And then in some areas, especially in the
- 2:58south of the US, in cotton fields, arsenic-based chemicals have been used traditionally
- 3:02to control pests and disease.
- 3:05And there'll be elevated levels. just like in
- 3:07some country gardens large manor houses here
- 3:10in the uk there's high levels of mercury from mercury pesticides used
- 3:13in the past so mercury is is is there's a risk of it in in rice there's if you've
- 3:21got really high levels you get nausea and vomiting and diarrhea and abdominal
- 3:25pains or skin lesions things like this but the real thing with arsenic is it's
- 3:29it's a carcinogen And so you could get lung, bladder,
- 3:33skin cancers, cardiovascular diseases.
- 3:37Neurodevelopment effects, and pregnancy risks.
- 3:39The thing about this is if you're anything like arsenic or any sort of carcinogen in your gut,
- 3:49if you were to get a cancer anywhere in your digestive system,
- 3:55so bowel cancers, stomach cancer, things like this,
- 3:58then the toxins you eat will be a big issue.
- 4:03But so is the sort of transit time of your food.
- 4:06So a lot of people now are talking about high protein diets,
- 4:10low carbohydrate diets, and things like this.
- 4:12But they're forgetting the very important role that fiber has in your diet.
- 4:17And if you look at the countries where people have a very high intake of dietary
- 4:22fiber, then the levels of cancer from bowel cancer is very low.
- 4:26In those countries. So, you know, people talk about, you know,
- 4:30fruits and vegetables from like a protein or a vitamin perspective and healthy
- 4:34eating from that perspective, but don't forget fiber.
- 4:37A lot, especially people who do a lot of fitness and bodybuilding and gym work
- 4:42and things like this, they often forget fiber.
- 4:45And that's just, this is my theory about why a lot of people are getting,
- 4:48a lot of gym goers get serious illnesses because things like arsenic could have
- 4:54a long time in your digestive system, especially if you're eating healthy rice
- 4:59and things like this and you're not sure.
- 5:01Now, often thought that white rice is less healthy than brown rice,
- 5:06but actually when it comes to arsenic, brown rice has more arsenic because the
- 5:10arsenic accumulates in the bran.
- 5:13And then rice from Southeast Asia, Bangladesh, India, and parts of the US tend to have higher levels.
- 5:18And then rice from California and Pakistan and India, apparently basmati so yeah.
- 5:24That's something to consider. Now, the way to get around this is to rinse thoroughly
- 5:29and cook in excess water.
- 5:31So six to one water to rice ratios will help alleviate the arsenic, drain the arsenic away.
- 5:37And then also think about using other grains like quinoa, millet,
- 5:41oats, barley, buckwheat, things like this. I'm a big fan of millet.
- 5:46I think millet is a really good one.
- 5:47And then obviously choose basmati or jasmine rice.
- 5:50They tend to have lower arsenic levels. and then
- 5:53the other food that is very high in arsenic is seaweed
- 5:57and i go to a lot
- 5:59of conferences on seaweed and people say oh in the uk we
- 6:02eat the lowest amount of seaweed in the developed world and this is why we have
- 6:09you know such issues with health here in the uk and look at japan they live
- 6:13for a long time and and look how how long people in japan live for and their
- 6:18life expectancy and And that's true,
- 6:21they do have a long life expectancy if they don't die of bowel cancer in the meantime.
- 6:26And Japan has a very high level of bowel cancer, and it's thought that it's
- 6:30due to the arsenic in the seaweed.
- 6:33And so if you combine their staple foods, two of their staple foods there of
- 6:38rice and seaweed, there's two staple foods there that are high in arsenic.
- 6:44So the Japanese diet might not be all it's cracked up to be.
- 6:47And then obviously in when the fukushima plant
- 6:50went into meltdown there was also radioactive compounds in the seaweed and i
- 6:55was looking at i was studying led growth lights over in japan when they were
- 7:00first kicking off back in the early noughties and i went over there to study
- 7:05chinese yams and they were growing chinese yams instead of.
- 7:08As a substitute for seaweed because of all the toxins that
- 7:11came that were thought to be in the seaweed due to fukushima
- 7:15and also natural levels so certain seaweeds
- 7:18are higher in arsenic than others sargassum has
- 7:21a very high arsenic level compared to other species sargassum is the
- 7:24one that is a nuisance
- 7:28it's almost like a weed in the caribbean sea
- 7:31caribbean ocean sea caribbean sea and Mexico
- 7:35and places like this the Gulf of Mexico and rots on the beaches and things like
- 7:39this and they're always looking for a use for it and often cheap biostimulants
- 7:43contain sargassum whereas actually you want to use ascophyllum nodosum as a
- 7:48that's the best biostimulant seaweed extract and so yeah seaweed is another source of arsenic.
- 7:55I'm going to do another episode on cadmium because there's lots of in lots of
- 7:59news on cadmium but I'm not going to do it straight after this one because two
- 8:02episodes about pollutants is not great.
- 8:06Obviously, if you're growing hydroponically, what are the key takeaways here?
- 8:10The first key takeaway is if you do not aerate your growing media and you're
- 8:15growing hydroponically and your roots are suffering from lack of oxygen,
- 8:20then they could be absorbing heavy metals and toxins like arsenic from your growing media.
- 8:27So especially if you're using a soil-based system or anything that potentially
- 8:30has arsenic in it, then you need to be careful that you don't produce these
- 8:35conditions that would reduce the arsenic and make it available to the plants.
- 8:38So always make sure you have good aeration, which I'm sure you do because your
- 8:42plants would suffer if you didn't.
- 8:44So as I say, we'll do another episode on cadmium because there's a lot of issues
- 8:47around landfill, water that comes off landfill tips in the UK.
- 8:54And this horrible gunk is
- 8:57being used on farmland which is a bit of
- 8:59a shocker really it doesn't
- 9:02happen in france but happens in the uk and needs to be exposed
- 9:05and so i'm going to be talking about that in a future episode but this
- 9:08one is specifically about arsenic and arsenic will
- 9:11be in residues from pollutants and things like this so in this in this toxic
- 9:17gunk that's coming off the landfills that they're sprayed onto the fields that
- 9:21that will be a source of arsenic as well so unfortunately if you want to make
- 9:26sure your food doesn't contain a lot of toxins.
- 9:29You can't just rely on the government nowadays to make sure that that's the
- 9:34case. You're best to grow your own.
- 9:35You know what you're putting on it, as always, and that is the beauty of hydroponics
- 9:38and home cultivation anyway.
- 9:40All right, that's been Hydroponics Daily for today. If you've got any comments
- 9:43about arsenic, you know anything else about arsenic, then let me know.
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