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The IU Report with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (2.174.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: you are listening to the IU report with Grant Shows and my cuddle every Tuesday on the central and the in a sports report kicking off another edition of the IU report here today on the central and the in a sports report Grant Shows with my cuddle and Mike Mike
• 0:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: were definitely into the full swing of basketball stuff football has been over for almost a month now.
• 0:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's as hard to believe.
• 0:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: It'll be a month ago this week since Indiana won the National Championship.
• 0:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they're still getting recognized with many big awards including their defensive coordinator Bryant Haines taking home the Braille's award first assistant coach in the history of the program the do so.
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not that shocking.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got to tell you, I thought that this Braille's a work thing was a one-man field, and Brian Haynes, no question was the top assistant in the country, and it just goes to show the culture that Indiana's built with Kurt Signetti.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: It really has, and like you said, there really wasn't a debate as to who was going to be.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: You could make a case, maybe, for the DC down, ironically, one of Haynes's best friends down in Miami.
• 1:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: The guy who came from J.M.U to Miami to a great job, but he was the other finalist for the job, but just, the schematic advantage that Indiana had seemingly every week,
• 1:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: with Haynes and his ability to disguise his past rush to disguise coverages and act into the other teams' headsets, so he knew what their plays were going to be as we learned during the postseason from other fan bases that Indiana was doing, so just no surprise what the only surprise to me, Grant, is that
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know they gave him a hell of a raise, and I know they were able to keep him on campus, but I kind of felt like you would hear his name as a head coach and candidate more this year.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Unless he's just kind of the coach in waiting, and it's kind of an unspoken thing going on in Bloomington because he seems like a guy, and he's making three million, so somebody's gonna, he takes another job, it's gonna have to be a pretty big job.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: because it would be a pay cut for him to go to like a max school or or something like that.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: But just him not getting any head coaching mentions is really the only surprise about this guy.
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anybody's stunned that he got this award.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I'm good with his name not being flugged around in that conversation.
• 2:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm not, I'm not complaining about it whatsoever.
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, he is said multiple times there is not really a burning desire to be a head coach right now.
• 3:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe later on down the road, the guy is still young.
• 3:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: The guy started a coaching career off at Manchester University that thankfully for that University, I wouldn't even be alive right now.
• 3:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: He wouldn't be talking right now.
• 3:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: But he, he did.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: He did a phenomenal job all year and you're right that is the little surprising that his name's not been floored around and and a you know head coaching spot.
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: It almost seems to me right now, again, things can change, but it almost seems to me right now that he may be the head coach and waiting that kind of seems to be the consistent feeling with the fan base and the talk on the message boards and on Twitter right now, I know that I think,
• 4:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: right now it's just it's crucial they're going to get him back next year not only are they going to have him back they're going to make shanna hand back next year that you had tino's done theory back onto the staff after he took the one year hiatus to go out to use the LA be the offensive coordinate coordinator get fired midseason
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: The door opened back up to come to Bloomington after Chandler Whitmer, who would work with Fernando Mendoza this year, who I think it is good, because I thought he did a good job with Curtis Rork that first year, but I just thought Chandler Whitmer did a way better job developing Fernando Mendoza in one year and working with him in one year, you hate to lose Chandler Whitmer, but I think that
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: getting spent theory back.
• 4:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's worked with this staff before a lot of same players.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's our still on the roster.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's some familiarity.
• 4:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I trust him to be able to come in and develop Joshua over the offseason, making better, getting to where they want him to be playing.
• 5:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't hate the idea of him coming back again.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: You hate to see Chandler Whitmer leave after what he did in the one season with Fernando.
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm excited to see Tina come back and continue to do his thing at as the quarterback's coach and as the co-offence of coordinator.
• 5:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm excited to see the hair again.
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: The main has a just majestic main.
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the more impressive things in division one.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: championship level football.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I was going to come back to that air.
• 5:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to ask is it the best to air in college football, Mike?
• 5:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Man, it's got to be up there.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know who would be second to be honest.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mike Gundys Mullett has gone so it's an easy one.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's no doubt.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's profound and adamant as Indiana was about being the national champion this year,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Tino has the best tire.
• 6:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely not the netbo baby that took his job at UCLA, New Haisel.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: The guy who looked like he was trying to shut down and orphanage to open a ski resort somewhere in Colorado.
• 6:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, yeah, Tino's, Tino's, that's just majestic.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the only thing I can, word I can, can think of to describe the man's tire.
• 6:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm believable.
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: You wouldn't get into the basketball team.
• 6:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well Grant, our worst case scenario happened.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: They went to Illinois, so they laid an egg.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: They got ran by a really, really, really good.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think final four caliber, Illinois team, the Euro trash, rain us off the court.
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And now you've got to get ready for a Friday night.
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure those guys up at Purdue who have so much else to do.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Besides, get ready for a Friday night game against Indiana.
• 6:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think and I think as we prepare for this one by the way, but I don't have something like NDA and a guy's and that's number two, Michigan on Tuesday.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thought on the L&O game is that it's funny how Bob Knight made up this Ivan, Ivan Rank guy or what was his name?
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: He made up this divine rinko guy and Ellen always filled with a team full of those kind of dudes like it's just, it's ironic again, this just goes show out far college basketballs from that, I don't know, they've done a good job finding these guys overseas somewhere, Euro league basketball is very, very good basketball in Europe is.
• 7:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: is some of the best in the nation or not the nation.
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: The world, sorry, the world.
• 7:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And just try to tell an oyster being able to find those guys.
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: But that games over, I don't think you can dwell on it.
• 8:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: It kind of went the way you thought it would go.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got blown out on the road.
• 8:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't come in to your place and beat you by 20.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you get to move on to Purdue.
• 8:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Purdue's gonna have a really big death.
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: against Michigan on Tuesday.
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be able to learn a lot about Purdue on Tuesday when they play Michigan, which will be arguably the best game in the country that night.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we'll know what Purdue team we're getting after that game.
• 8:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know they're probably putting a lot of their focus on the Michigan within you wonder, okay, are they putting, are they looking ahead to playing Indiana on Friday?
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Are they going to take care of the task in front of them and Michigan who knows now you could not have drawn up a worst case scenario for Indiana, because again you just got blown out on the road by 20.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: you're going to go home, you're going to rest up, you're going to practice, you're going to watch Purdue play Michigan on Tuesday Purdue is either obviously a going to win the game and have a lot of momentum coming into the IU game on Friday or be they're going to lose the game and be pissed off for two days and be ready to play IU on Friday.
• 9:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: and trying to not and just trying to annihilate them at home.
• 9:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: So Indiana really isn't a loose loose scenario here in the less.
• 9:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're able to regroup from this and have their best week of practice and come back Friday and go up to Mackie and win, which would be improbable.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, I'm having the same expectation.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think for the Purdue game a little bit as I did today again selling always.
• 9:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll just have to see, but again, there's a lot of scenarios that point to Indiana not having a whole lot of success on Friday night kind of just due to the fact of what happened against Illinois on Sunday and then what happened and then what's going to happen with Purdue on Tuesday night gets Michigan.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not a great scenario.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's almost, it puts in the end of fans and a very precarious situation because if you almost feel like Purdue needs to win on Tuesday to up your chances because the chance of a let down is there.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if you do that, you're rooting for Purdue to be the number one team in college basketball.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just not an RDNA to do that.
• 10:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So,
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really know what you do.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's going to be a tough assignment.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Purdue has seemingly righted the ship a little bit.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: They did some things with their lineup that has gotten them better.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're lying more on their big men.
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Painter says big men have got to play more.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're utilizing their big men on the glass.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we all just look at what happened in the Illinois game.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he had to just cannot handle size.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: They can't handle teams that can attack the glass.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: So giving up second, third, fourth opportunities, especially on the road against Purdue, if that happens, then it could be another long, long night.
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know yet haven't really seen what the numbers are going to look like.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's very early.
• 11:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, there's not going to be a Vegas spread or I want to see what happens with the
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: This was going to be a tough week.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was always going to be a tough week.
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about the fort and the last episode, the four games stretch that they had that was Illinois Purdue Michigan State in Ohio State.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're O and 1, and that's not unexpected.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the second toughest game is coming up probably next.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: See if you're maybe a little more competitive this time around than you were in the Illinois game.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: and finish up going into March, hopefully get that secure that turny birth because ultimately that's what the season is about with Darren Rees's first team putting together a whole new roster going into the big ten completely unknown with what the players that you had, they can still come out of this with a winning record in the conference.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's just see what happens on Friday
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that Indiana has a really good shot here at being able to pull out some of these wins.
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying that I don't think they can go in and beat Purdue.
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's possible.
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's certainly on the table.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do I like their chances?
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, probably not at the moment, but it's certainly as possible.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then you get north Western.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you lose to Purdue.
• 12:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, talking hypothetically, putting a lot of put a lot in a lot of the cart before the horse here is you cannot lose to Purdue and then turn around the next Tuesday and come back home and lose to Northwestern that cannot happen you can't do that and if you do you could almost.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: through your tournament hopes out the window.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have got to beat Northwestern and you've got to beat Minnesota and you've got to beat Ohio State.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: You just lost Illinois, you've got Purdue, you've got Michigan State.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Those are three of the four top teams, three of the top five teams in the big 10.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it'd be nice if you could pull off one and beat Purdue or Michigan State.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Seems like Michigan State never comes to Indiana and plays well.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even with Archie, like Archie had Michigan State's number.
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And in the last few years, it feel like Michigan State just does not play well at Indiana.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we could be looking at a potential win at home if you could get Michigan State.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: But there's a lot of things to look ahead towards.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you just, you got to win the games you're supposed to win.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you lose the games that people are picking you to lose, then,
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: who knows what's going to happen.
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Selection Sunday, which by the way, is four weeks from today on Sunday.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know when this is coming out, but four weeks from Sunday, after the Illinois game, you're going to have a bracket.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: The goal, like you said, make the tournament in the first year of Daren Diverses.
• 14:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not necessarily, you don't have to be in the one through four line.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you can get in as an eight seed or a nine seed, or I hate saying this, but if Dayton's on the table, then it is what it is as long as you make the tournament.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: with Darren DeVries in his first year with a whole new roster.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: There is a lot of things pointing toward your success.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm excited to see, again, I've been saying this but I'm excited to see this team compete.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not pleased with the showing against Illinois, but there's a lot of upside.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of promising things still here.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: You just, again, you got to win the game just to post, too.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're supposed to beat Northwestern and supposed to beat Minnesota.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're probably supposed to beat Ohio State.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll just have to see what happens.
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the Ohio State game is gonna be a rookie, I think.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be a chance at a quad one to close out the regular season.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Could be the difference between going 10 and 10 and 11 and 9 in the conference.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that game is probably one as an Indian fan, you can circle.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I watched them last night against Virginia.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't look bad.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: They have one of the best players in the conference, obviously, with Bruce Thornton, but after him,
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like Indiana.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've got Lamar and then some role-player guys, but they don't know where the score he's gonna come from.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what Ohio State is.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, I would say they've got their Tucker de Vries in Devon, Royal, in a way.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they mirror Indiana a lot.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: But what they have, that Indiana doesn't have, and I'm very, very happy for those everyday of the season.
• 16:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Gabe Cupp.
• 16:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm there.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so happy Indiana doesn't have that many more.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much to Grant and Mike for all the great IU reports over the last year.
• 16:23
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• 16:25
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• 16:35
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