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7-31-26 Hour 3 - What's Bo Nix worth?/Bucks are interested in Watson/DRUNK TAKES! · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, thank you very much. Purpose all right,
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  Speaker 1: so listen, cool Carl, We're out here. Broncos Park Altitude
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  Speaker 1: So here's what I wanted to get to, Creik mean, Lindall,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about this yesterday. Baker Mayfield and I think
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  Speaker 1: he was more disrespected. I don't know what the number
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  Speaker 1: was that was thrown at him. I think it's less
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  Speaker 1: about the per year value and more about it was
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  Speaker 1: only two years. He wanted a long term deal. Baker
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  Speaker 1: has been through this before with Cleveland where they were
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  Speaker 1: refusing to give him long term security, and Correig mean
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  Speaker 1: Lindall talked about, well, potentially could that happen here? Listen?
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  Speaker 4: But this team, it's been built to get the best
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  Speaker 4: read of is bon Nicks the seventy million dollar guy?
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  Speaker 1: Is it not?
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  Speaker 4: Is not? Is Jalen Wattle not the last part of
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  Speaker 4: the field that they need to attack. They now have
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  Speaker 4: an elite weapon, a premier weapon with that mid range
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  Speaker 4: thing that Jalen Wattle can do. The catch, run, the break,
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  Speaker 4: the tackles, everything you need. Again, if you have a
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  Speaker 4: problem this year moving the ball, then do they turn
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  Speaker 4: and look at the quarterback and say, to your point,
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  Speaker 4: you're not a fifty million dollar guy and we're not
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  Speaker 4: going to give that to you.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a fair question. I do teams that
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  Speaker 1: they got a receiver. We've already seen Courtland Sutton voted
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  Speaker 1: by his peers as a top seventy player in this league. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: you add Jalen Waddle, you have JK. Dobbins back, You
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  Speaker 1: spend another draft pick in insurance of not just R. J.
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  Speaker 1: Harvey as a second rounder last year, but now Jonah
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  Speaker 1: Coleman as a fourth rounder.
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  Speaker 5: This You went last year and got Evan Ingram as
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  Speaker 5: a target as a.
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  Speaker 1: Guy, Evan Ingram, and you have invested tens of millions
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  Speaker 1: of dollars in your offensive line. What more could a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback ask for?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what else you could ask for, Brett,
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  Speaker 5: but what's interesting? And he makes a good point there,
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't really matter. I was just lamenting the fact
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  Speaker 5: that brock Perty's making fifty three million dollars per year.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well you know.
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  Speaker 5: Why he's making fifty three, Brett, because he was next
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  Speaker 5: in line, because his number came up, and he's their
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  Speaker 5: starting quarterback, and you pay starting quarterback money. So there's
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  Speaker 5: no doubt in my mind if Nis continues on the
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  Speaker 5: path that he's on right now, when his deal is
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  Speaker 5: up here shortly, and you gotta be thinking about that,
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  Speaker 5: if you're in that brand new building over there when
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  Speaker 5: his deal is up, man, hey, uh, he's gonna want
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  Speaker 5: fifty at least he's gonna he's gonna want what the
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  Speaker 5: going rate is for a starting quarterback in the National
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  Speaker 5: Football League.
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  Speaker 2: Well, is there any doubt that this regime, this ownership group,
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  Speaker 2: this GM, they're gonna pay you what you do. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: they're not gonna play those games. If you earned, they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna pay you what you're doing. We just saw Greg
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  Speaker 2: petterwalk Oh I should ask you know, it's funny watching Greg.
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  Speaker 2: He was walking by with Patrick Smythe and they're just
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  Speaker 2: sort of making the rounds, making sure all iSER Dott
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  Speaker 2: and Teaser crossed and looking every nook and cranny in
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  Speaker 2: the place. And I was talking to him about the
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  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy seven Broncos team. In fact, I gave Patrick
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  Speaker 2: a book that Terry Fryer wrote, and I said, you
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  Speaker 2: need to read this because do you understand that when
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos first came here and when the Broncos first
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  Speaker 2: went to the Super Bowl? Do you know what the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos facilities look like? Brett, you know what they were
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  Speaker 2: in seventy seven? Oh my god, it was a trailer
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  Speaker 2: up off I.
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  Speaker 1: Show you that time. A lot of NFL places look
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  Speaker 1: like Yeah, I'm just forty.
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  Speaker 2: And I said to Greg, I said, this is the
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  Speaker 2: fifty year anniversary next year of that seventy seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: Look at this now, I know, look at this. It's
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  Speaker 1: a city. It's its own city. Yeah, it really is.
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  Speaker 2: It's truly remarkable. And as I'm talking to him, I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking to myself too. See, Battle just went for nine
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  Speaker 2: and a half billion the Seahawks. Could you imagine what
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  Speaker 2: the value this thing is going to be?
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is no kidding. We were talking me and most.
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  Speaker 1: You're talking to Emma and Abbey who worked at the Broncos,
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  Speaker 1: and we're like, this looks like something Google would build
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  Speaker 1: on their campus. Right, this building over here, the only
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  Speaker 1: thing that's missing is like a slide that goes from
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  Speaker 1: the rooftop down to the field level. Like it is
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  Speaker 1: every bit as state of the art as you can get. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you to come with that. Our expectations. And
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  Speaker 1: here's the great thing about having an ownership group like this.
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  Speaker 1: And Pat Bollen was like this, despite not having maybe
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  Speaker 1: the cash flow that this ownership group has, when didn't
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  Speaker 1: you have high expectations, You're willing to spend money for
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  Speaker 1: the franchise. You weren't spending money for a loser. You're
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  Speaker 1: spending money to win. And I think taking that back
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  Speaker 1: to the boat Knicks route here, bo Nix is now
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  Speaker 1: in year three. This is not somebody who's learning on
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  Speaker 1: the job anymore. You are now going into seasoned NFL
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  Speaker 1: veteran status. He has how many starts under his belt
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  Speaker 1: including playoff games? Is it thirty six? I think right there,
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's it's expectations now are on him,
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  Speaker 1: and to his credit, he has surpassed every expectation I
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  Speaker 1: think anybody's had of him from a winning standpoint. The
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  Speaker 1: question now is can the offense be a main thrust
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  Speaker 1: in the winning And I think that's his responsibility that's
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  Speaker 1: now on him. It has.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, certainly from year one t year two, it
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  Speaker 5: got better, There's no doubt about it. But it's been
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  Speaker 5: fits and stops either. But it's been yeah, feast or famine.
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  Speaker 5: I mean either your scoring, you know, nineteen points or
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  Speaker 5: more than nineteen and the fourth quarter to win or
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  Speaker 5: thirty three to win or whatever the case may be.
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  Speaker 5: But then there have been those games where the defense
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  Speaker 5: just flat out bailed your butt out.
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  Speaker 2: Still, you know, I just can't get over this reading
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  Speaker 2: again that wonderful piece by seven Tuickersham on Sean Payton
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  Speaker 2: and how he prepped for that AFC Championship and so
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  Speaker 2: much work goes into prep. I mean, look at all
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  Speaker 2: these people here just prepping the field, prepping the camp.
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  Speaker 2: So many people involved in an NFL organization, so many people,
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  Speaker 2: and yet on game day it comes down to do
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  Speaker 2: you do you go for the fake punt on fourth
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  Speaker 2: on eleven. It's truly remarkable. Success and failure come down to.
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  Speaker 2: You can have a playbook, you can have a play
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  Speaker 2: sheet with three hundred plays and you're only going to
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  Speaker 2: use forty five exactly, And that's it. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: it comes down to, all of this stuff right here
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  Speaker 2: to prepare for one game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 5: The fact of the matter is, Brett, you can have
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  Speaker 5: the richest owned in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine.
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  Speaker 5: They can pay out the cash and sonny bonuses rodya check,
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  Speaker 5: No big deal. But when you when you're looking at
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  Speaker 5: giving your quarterback fifty million dollars plus per year, now
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  Speaker 5: you're starting to get into the God, is is he
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  Speaker 5: worth it? And how much will we hand stringing ourselves?
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  Speaker 5: And what do we have to lose in order to
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  Speaker 5: accommodate that. Because when you've got a rookie quarterback or
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  Speaker 5: a young quarterback on a rookie deal and they're playing
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  Speaker 5: well for you, you've got to make Hay that's your time
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  Speaker 5: to get it done, because when it comes time to
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  Speaker 5: pay the fiddler, you're going to lose some guys because
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  Speaker 5: of it.
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  Speaker 2: It's also time to get guys under contract, and I
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  Speaker 2: think the Broncos has done a great job of that
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  Speaker 2: the last year, getting core players under contract long term, yep,
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  Speaker 2: locking them up, and that's why the retention rate is
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  Speaker 2: so high on this roster.
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  Speaker 1: It's also why quote the boring offseason for the Broncos
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  Speaker 1: was a boring off season. If you signed players of
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  Speaker 1: the caliber of you know, you just roll through the
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  Speaker 1: list of guys over the last couple of years, your
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  Speaker 1: Zach Allens, your Pats are Tans, your Courtland Suttons, guys
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  Speaker 1: like that. If you signed players of that calibern free agency,
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  Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh my gosh, we're hitting the lottery here.
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  Speaker 1: They were just already here. So it's not as flashy.
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  Speaker 1: So when you get Jayalen Waddel added into the mix
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  Speaker 1: of course it's gonna be huge. But I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you fifty million dollars a year for a quarterback. If
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  Speaker 1: that's Mahomes, you're good. If that's Stafford, you're good. If
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  Speaker 1: that's Kyler Marie in Arizona, not good? Not good. And
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  Speaker 1: and then you you have to start thinking about, Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: how much blowing this thing up in the future is
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  Speaker 1: in is in play here? Okay, well, then let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you this question, Brett. What's more likely to happen
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  Speaker 1: that Bonix improves and is a better quarterback and your
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  Speaker 1: number three or he regresses? What's regress? What I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Because are you going to quantify that with wins? Or
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  Speaker 2: are you quantifying it with his own play? It's a
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  Speaker 2: good question, all what everything? Well, I mean, he may
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  Speaker 2: be a better quarterback than they may win.
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  Speaker 1: Ten games ten games? Very true, Okay, that's fine.
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  Speaker 5: I'm talking about him as his ability as an NFL player,
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  Speaker 5: And you say, you know what, this is our guy again?
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  Speaker 2: See to me, it's the eye test. It's pretty simple.
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  Speaker 2: And I know people are going to throw stats in
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  Speaker 2: there and the stats he's produced, but I can see
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  Speaker 2: it right like I are you able to control the game?
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to be a threat during the game
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  Speaker 1: to control the game? Can he do? And there were
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  Speaker 1: times last year where he was magical? There are other
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  Speaker 1: times are like what is this?
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  Speaker 5: Right well, through the twenty five percent three and outrate
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  Speaker 5: is is startling.
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  Speaker 2: So that's to me, that's the answer. The answer is
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  Speaker 2: what will he look like through the course of a season?
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  Speaker 5: Right well, I mean, look, you gotta make hey, you
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  Speaker 5: gotta do it now that money's going to be coming.
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  Speaker 5: And if it's not him, let's just say it's not. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: but it will be. But let's just say it's not.
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  Speaker 5: It's eventually going to be somebody because teams need quarterbacks
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  Speaker 5: and it's eventually going to be a guy that you're
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  Speaker 5: going to have to pay up in a big time way.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's that's the end of the end of
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  Speaker 1: the story. I think it's to me, it's got to
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  Speaker 1: be I think this guy's a top ten quarterback in
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  Speaker 1: the league. To pay him fifty I think so.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think brouck Perty's the top ten Niners had
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  Speaker 5: no problem giving to him fifty.
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  Speaker 1: Three per borderline? I don't think he is.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think he is either. Like here's here's the
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  Speaker 5: big question Kirk Cousins. Remember when he got thirty million
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  Speaker 5: for Many. Remember when he went to Many got thirty
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  Speaker 5: min I'm going, oh my god, thirty million dollars for
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  Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins.
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  Speaker 1: Was he a top ten at the time or was
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  Speaker 1: he borderline?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, borderline, but he was he was he He wasn't
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  Speaker 5: a guy that you would look at and go, you
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  Speaker 5: know what, I need this guy as my I can
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  Speaker 5: win it all right now with this guy. Okay, Oh,
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  Speaker 5: he was just the best guy out there available and
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  Speaker 5: the going rate was thirty per Let me.
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  Speaker 1: Just ask you a question. If Sam Darnold his contract
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  Speaker 1: was up after last year, he just won a Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl second straight year, He's carried a team to fourteen wins,
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  Speaker 1: and he said, I want fifty five million dollars. The Lord,
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  Speaker 1: you have to you'd have to have you'd have to
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl. Yeah, regardless of where you think he is,
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  Speaker 1: you would have to be like, we just won a
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl with this guy. And it wasn't we didn't
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  Speaker 1: fluke our way in there. They were one of the
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  Speaker 1: best teams in the league the entire season.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's why I'm very curious to see if that
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  Speaker 2: quarterback whisper in Minnesota can do to Kyler Murray O'Connell exactly,
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  Speaker 2: ye can do to Murray what he did to the.
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  Speaker 1: Answer what JJ McCarthy was new.
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  Speaker 5: This is this right, this is where you By the way,
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  Speaker 5: apparently JJ McCarthy's looking better Thankyler Murray so far.
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  Speaker 1: But that's that's a side point.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see the thing you have to ask yourself
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  Speaker 5: and be honest with yourself. With that defense in Seattle
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  Speaker 5: and those players around, how many other quarterbacks could have
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  Speaker 5: done I know he did it. How many other guys
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  Speaker 5: could have done what Sam Darnold did? And if you're
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  Speaker 5: the Seattle Seahawks and you're sitting in there, you're thinking, well,
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  Speaker 5: I could have I mean, if you replaced Donald with Mayfield,
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  Speaker 5: what Baker Mayfield guide them to a Super Bowl championship?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, these are the questions you have to ask.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know how much? Here's what's weird to think about?
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  Speaker 1: And Vick you were talking about earlier, all the prep
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  Speaker 1: and all the things that need to take place for
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  Speaker 1: you to be a winning football team, and it's massive.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what tip the scales last year? Do
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  Speaker 1: you just remember the two point conversion that bounced off
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  Speaker 1: the Rams helmet and the Rams Seahawks. Yeah, that totally
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  Speaker 1: flip the scales on advantages between the Seahawks and the Rams. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: something as stupid as that, That's what.
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  Speaker 2: It's just mind numbing when you think about how stupid
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  Speaker 2: things can be. Yeah, right, I mean it comes down
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  Speaker 2: to that.
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  Speaker 1: And then and that flipped that flipped the home. That
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  Speaker 1: that flipped everything. That's the change of Sam Darnold now
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  Speaker 1: becomes almost indispensable to Seattle or Matthew Stafford with two
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowls is now like a top ten quarterback ever
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  Speaker 1: in the argument for it thing, sure, it's crazy three
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  Speaker 5: Yes on the old twitch feed, I guess it is
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  Speaker 5: brock perty hate is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Ha ha ha. It's not hate. I'm not hating.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's about value and it's about again, if other
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  Speaker 5: guys could do that same job. Look, there's no doubt
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  Speaker 5: they found they found a needle in a haystack with
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  Speaker 5: brock Purty. He was a seventh round pick. He's a
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  Speaker 5: starting quarterback in the league making fifty three per And
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  Speaker 5: you know what in Shanny's offense in the way it's
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  Speaker 5: been built around him. He's done already. Damn good job.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, when we come back, got some fresh news on
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  Speaker 2: Peyton Watson and the Nuggets and this whole sign and
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  Speaker 2: trade talk. It's it's becoming a sign and trade escapade
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  Speaker 2: because every day there's another team that seems to be
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  Speaker 2: interested every day.
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  Speaker 1: Every single day. So we'll get to that in just
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  Speaker 1: out here and all these guys are taking care of
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  Speaker 1: the turf. Looks like they're putting some sand down. But
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  Speaker 1: there was a guy that would open up a couple
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  Speaker 1: of spots in the turf and then punch it. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what that is? That cat
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  Speaker 1: right there? What is that? What's going on there? Why
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  Speaker 1: are we punching the ground?
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  Speaker 2: You just want that thing to cooperate. It's bread, bread
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  Speaker 2: because the ground just won't listen. But you saw what
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  Speaker 2: I sign. It wasn't I know it's Roger. I know,
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  Speaker 2: I know, a low hanging fruit you don't want. You
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  Speaker 2: don't want loose on holes in the turf where guys
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  Speaker 2: can twist an ankle. So you're you're punching some turf, fecking.
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  Speaker 1: Help on it. I mean, it's a fist fight. It
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  Speaker 1: was a fist fight.
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  Speaker 5: You know what sticks about being way over here is
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  Speaker 5: that Brett, you have the angle. I can't see the
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  Speaker 5: angle of the first guy on the field. We used
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  Speaker 5: to get him right here, right in front of us,
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  Speaker 5: to our right. Now it's gonna be way over there
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  Speaker 5: to the left. Who the first guy out is.
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  Speaker 2: We are live at Broncos' training camp, and I say live,
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  Speaker 2: We're live. This is as lively as you'll see us
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  Speaker 2: and hear us, because after week three will be dead
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  Speaker 2: at Broncos' training camp.
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  Speaker 1: It is true. It's usually how it works. Hey.
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  Speaker 2: The fans are in the stands, the players are set
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  Speaker 2: to come out here momentarily. Practice doesn't go until ten,
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  Speaker 2: but they usually start walking out about now.
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  Speaker 1: Vick.
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  Speaker 5: You know they can't accommodate now as many people as
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  Speaker 5: they could in the past. And once this whole facility
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  Speaker 5: to our right gets torn down and the new burm
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  Speaker 5: built up, then they will be able to. But I
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: will see these bleachers they have set up with the
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: auning on top of sweet.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: That's a really good setup for the fans.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: So if you've got a ticket to come out here,
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: if you were able to secure one of those, that
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: you're gonna be in pretty good shape. I mean, you're
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: gonna be out of the sun for the most part.
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: It's it's very organized. It's gonna be really really cool.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: You know what else is sweet? Did you guys get
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: a load to the Summit Stadium across the street, the
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: Denver FC.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I did not. No, I drove by it. Haven't seen.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: My gosh, that thing is nice.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: And that's gonna be property of Cherry Creek School District
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: when they move into their stadium. That thing is sweet.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: This whole facility across the street here is nice. I've
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: got some Peyton Watson news, all right. So we've talked
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: about this. Everybody, it seems, is interested in assigning trade
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: for Peyton Watson, but we really haven't even anybody pulled
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: the trigger obviously on anything yet. Yeah, the Nuggets have
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: said that they want a pick in return their first
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: round pick, and maybe a notable player. If you get
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: a player, if you get a player in return, what
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: has to happen, Guys, you have to shed somebody. Salary
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: has to be shed to fit that player. Has to
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: because they're currently in the second apron. Well, word comes
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: down compliments of hoops Hype. It's a pretty credible source
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: on this that the Milwaukee Bucks are considering absorbing Nuggets
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: forward Zeke Nasey's contract as part of a Watson sign
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: and trade. Nause is still two more years for a
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: combined fourteen point nine to three million. He's got the
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: player option on the next year. Yeah, fourteen point nine
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: three so fifteen million on Zeke Nase's contract, and the Bucks,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: rather than give up a first round pick, they're basically saying, Okay,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: we'll give you something and.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: We'll take that something off your hands. Is that enough.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: The more we talk about it, though, the more the
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: more you start to lay it out like you have been, buddy,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: the more inevitable.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: It seems that he's not going to be a Denver nugget.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: And if you can shed a Zeke salary and get
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: out of the second apron, then that's what you got,
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: all right. So again and I'm not trying to be
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: pessimistic here. I don't because I want the player as
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: a member of the Denver Nuggets.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I want so, just to make things clear, as a
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Nuggets fan, would you be okay with sending Peyton Watson
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: and Zeke Nause to Milwaukee and in return you're out
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: of the second apron and maybe you get I don't know,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: you maybe get a draft pick in return, some pick,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: second round, first round. No, that's not enough for now, Okay?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Why because I think that's more likely than anything.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: If you're if your only option is this deal to
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: shed Zeke Nause, then you.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Probably it's not worth shedding Zeke Nause. To me, that's
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the problem. What if you got a player in return? Depends? Yeah, yeah,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: then now we're talking. I need I need somebody to
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: play on the floor. Yeah, I need that. And look,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna die on this hill and I
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: don't know how it can be done. You're gonna ask me, well,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: how do you do it? And I'm gonna tell you,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm taking a bath on a Cam
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Johnson trade before I'm taking a bath on a Peyton
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Watson trade. This would be a bath. This is something that, look,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I might value him higher than most other people do.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I think he's an incredible asset because it's not about
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen next year or the year afterwards. It's
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: what he can bring to your team years down the line.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: And how many guys in this roster do you have
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: that are like that? How many? Well, very few.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not here to play judge and jury here, okay,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I'm just here.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I'm playing devil's advocate. He has yet to provide any
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: playoff feedback for you.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: He's done it in the regular season, but he's done
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: nothing in the playoffs because he has not been healthy
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: for the playoffs.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: So I'll argue to you what proves less valuable in
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: the playoffs and what I don't know even more than
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that is a future first round pick. And that's my problem.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: But there comes a time, though, when you have to
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: face reality, and right now, vict the more we discuss this,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: the reality is slapping us right in the face. The
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: odds are you're not going to be able to keep
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: him in any regard. And so Brett, if again.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: He let's say he took the exceptions, I don't think
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: it's stop for a second.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: Let's say he took the exception. Okay, yeah, played one
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: year on the exception. Fine, he ain't coming back. I
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: guarantee you no. I would say it's probably eighty percent
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: chance he does not re sign as a UFA with
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: the Denver Nuggets.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: He's gonna go someplace else.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: And that being the case, if you if you see,
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: if you see that riding on the wall, then shed
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: the Zeke salary.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Now let me give shed Let me give you another scenario.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: So you're Milwaukee and I'm not saying this is going
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: to happen, it's a possibility. Rather than giving the Nuggets
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: a first round pick, what if they said, okay, we
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: will take on Peyton Watson and sign the trade and
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Zeke Nausey's contract, we will give you Ryan Rollins. Ryan
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Rollins comes at a price of four million dollars a year.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: He's got a three year, two million dollar contract. He's
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: in his final year. He's a point guard. He can
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: fit a role immediately imediately. He'd be an asset immediately.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: So you can you can absorb Ryan Rollins for those
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: two players you're sending out. And I believe I don't
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: have the math in front of me. I think that
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: would put the Nuggets back into the first apron. I
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: believe that would do the trick.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: So if that's the case, then and he's on an
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: expiring contract, you could win him for a year. You
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: could walk away from that if you wanted to anyway,
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: But there is your backup point guard, ball handler.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Right, it's better. Well, I don't think you know. I
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: don't think it's it's not better, it's great.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think you've seen or know enough about Ryan
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Rollins when when Giannis was hurt. I've watched a couple
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: of Milwaukee games where they gave him the ball and
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: said go and he went.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying it's better. Think in the sense of
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: if they if money wasn't a problem right now for
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the Nuggets, would you trade Would you still do that
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: if the Nugget Nuggets were comfortably underneath the second apron?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: What what you're saying, basically, would you trade Ryan Rowlins
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: trade up for Payton Watson?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Correct? Yeah, I'm answers now, I wouldn't.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Well, my answer is if it also means shedding salary
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: that you have not been able to shed, that would
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: allow you to do some other things next year.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, I would do it. Yeah, you've got it. But
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I said if money was equal, I'm just talking about it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: But but but you can't play the money is equal card.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: That is correct, because because what's the value of you
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: can't do that? What's the value you put a price
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: tag in a value on being able to unlock boxes
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: to allow you to do more things down the road?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: I mean some teams when they get really stuck, it's
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: worth the world to them they to be able to
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: shed and to be able to then unlock other boxes
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: to allow them to navigate. There's also but I think
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: what you're saying, I completely understand where you're coming from.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I don't want to lose the guy either. My question
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: is would how how could the Milwaukee Bunks absorb that
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: much salary that they have.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: A trade exception. That's a lot of money. Huge I'm
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: talking about.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, how much under the cap are they because they
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: would have to sign pe Watt to a contract to
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: his liking, right so that they're gonna be honest. Any
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: twenty five million, then they have the Z contract, which
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: is another seven and a half million. You're looking at
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: thirty three million in contracts for two players that they
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: would be absorbing, and I'm not sure do they have
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: well minus the let's say if Rawlins came back this way, Yeah,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: you look at it, about.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: A net thirty million dollars that they would now assume.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Screw on the box.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: Who got to worry about the bucks and their salary problems.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: If they want to do the deal and then try
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: to figure it out later, than good for them. I'm
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: worried about us, and I'm worried about getting rid of
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: the Z contract, and I have been for about.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Four years well and especially now mos where you have
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: too many forwards on this roster. We counted all the forwards.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: There's no way you could possibly have that many forwards.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. Somebody's got to go. And if you get,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: if you're willing to get somebody to take that contract
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: on and you get a rotational player in return, you
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: get a rotational player. Someone takes that contract on you
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and you're done with this this contract squabble.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: But the more I think about it, and there do
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: it in a heartbeat.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Brett, You've got to You've got beat, You've got I
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: understand your emotional attachment to this player and what he
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: could be.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It's not I think that. It's not an emotional attachment.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: It's I just think he's a really good player. I well,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: for a month, he was a really good player for
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a month. But I mean, do you truly know in
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: your heart of hearts? I mean, you can think that,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: but look, I guess my bottom line is the inevitability
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: factor is staring you right in the face. You're going
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: to have to bite the bulleteer. You're gonna have to
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: realize that. Look, man, it's gonna kill us.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: Uh we you know we if we do this deal,
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: we're gonna be able to get out from under the apron,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: get out from under this contract. It's going to allow
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: us more manageability down the road. Maybe you do something
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: else in the course of the season. You know, it
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: unlocks the ability to do another deal mid season or
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: the deadline. It's just it's just the way it is.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's just it's just looking more like, hey,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: you know, take your lumps if you want to call
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: it lumps, and get it done.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Here's another question I have. So let's say they do
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the deal that Vick was talking about. You you get Ryan Rollins.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: In return, he makes four million dollars a year, you
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: ship out Zeke, who's making eight. We'll say, and what
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: was Watson's contract before this, like two and a Half's
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: just let's just say ten million dollars in exchange for
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: four and that extra six million gets you under the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: apron barely. Well, then what do you do? Okay, you're
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: under the second apron. Okay, but but then with the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: million dollars you have until the second apron.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: But you've addressed a need. You have a backup point guard.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Now you have another ballhandler. We've said this team needs
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: another ballhandler. We've said that they have one. Now they've
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: addressed in need. They've got plenty of forwards. That's they're
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: fine there, Yeah, they need a ball handler. And so,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: not only do you address a need, you get under
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the cap, you dispose of a contract that you haven't
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: been able to utilize.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Dude. The more, if the Bucks.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Are willing to do this, and I don't think they would,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: it just seems far fetched to me.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: If they're doing this, I do it so fast I
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: run covered. Wait, think you're making this sound like the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Bucks would get fleeced on this steal.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I'm saying it's a win win. I'm not saying any
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: fleece job whatsoever. I'm trying to figure out why the
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Bucks would willingly absorb that much salary unless they believe
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: then they could because they're not very good, unless they
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: believe that Peyton Watson will be an anchor to a
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: rebuild and they have to have I.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Mean, you say it would fill it would fill a
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: need to get an extra ball handler here, that's true.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Who's your backup too, who's the guy who could play
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the two guard?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Well, you got what do you mean? You got plenty
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: people that can play two guard. You've got Christian Brown,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: you got Cam Johnson that can play two. Cam Johnson
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: can play the too easily. Yeah, plenty of guys that
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: can play the two. Plenty of guys that can. That
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: position is malleable. I'm still gonna maintain. And no, I
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: don't know how it would happen. I don't know what
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: the situation is.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: To me. Julian Strather's a two, but they don't play
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Jones Spencer. Spencer Jones can be the two. Dude.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: They've got plenty of forwards. Listen to me, Listen to me.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: If that deals on the table, you do it.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Here's here's what I'm saying. I I don't know what
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: it would look like. I know that teams know that
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: the the Denver Nuggets are over a barrel right now.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: If I'm taking a bath on a deal, I don't
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: want it to be the Peyton Watson one. I just
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I don't agree that this would be something that is
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: such a slam dunk trade for the Nuggets because I
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: think you downgrade, Look you get something in return, and we.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Can can somebody speak to him, if you'll if you'll
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: stop for a second, I will somebody. You allow me
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: to finish, because you keep saying this, you keep you
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: and everybody else. Oh, they can't downgrade, they can't downgrade.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Guess just what they're going to downgrade to get under
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: the second apron. Here's what a downgrade is. And this
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: where you didn't let me finish. Getting rid of Cam
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Johnson would all so be a downgrade. But it's a
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: one year deal.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: You aren't signing him back regardless after this year, and
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: But they don't want Cam Johnson, they want Peyton Watson.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: You make it sound as it and how many times
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I have to tell you this. You make it sound
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: as if teams are waiting in line to tacon Cam.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Why why is Mark Stein reporting over and over again
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: that the Nuggets have rebuffed traders.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Because nobody's making offers for Cam Johnson. It's specifically to Cam,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: is what he's reporting. Now you can say, maybe you
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: don't believe it. Mark Stein is saying the same thing
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: with Peyton Watson. He's doing the same reporting on this.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: They have turned down trade offers for Cam Johnson. That's
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: what he's reporting. Nuggets have turned them.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Time. Can let me finish. You can't tell me there's
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: no offers come to help you.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna help you out, Brett. They've turned them down
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: for now. You said, what's next after let's say you
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: get this deal done?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: What is next? Yeah?
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: The next is you go into the season and see
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: what the hell happens? Can Aaron Gordon stay healthy?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: I think that once you get into the season, see
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: where you are as a team, more decisions are coming.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Like maybe mid season you're like, uh, golly, this isn't
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: gonna work, and then you start working out stuff. Maybe
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: I'm Murray gone, or if AG's healthy and maybe you
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: want to shed that thirty poor or maybe can becomes
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: more valuable to a team that's dealing with injuries. So
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: I think that you go into the season and you
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: just start playing and you see what happens. I just
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: see your team and to everybody else, here's the bottom
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: line for me. And I mean this with no disrespect.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Actually I do, because I said that.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Your naive days is showing when your your bottom line
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: is you cannot part with Peyton Watson.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: You cannot think that I didn't say you can't. All right,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: so take that off and say I wouldn't. Okay, you wouldn't.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: But but but to assume that you cannot part with
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Peyton Watt, dude, guess what if the deal's on the table,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: that makes sense. They're going to part with Peyton Watson. Okay,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: but you aren't hearing me. I'm just saying to me
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: that deal doesn't make sense.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I don't like it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: It makes a ton of sense the more I think
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: about it. It's the best deal I've heard yet.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: You know what this was? This was July fourth. By
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the way, Mark Stein, Jake Fisher Nuggets have rebuffed several
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: trade offers for camw Now, so what do you think? So,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: what do you think those trade offers were? What does
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: that even mean? What do you think? What do you
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: think those trade offers were? I have no they probably
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I'm asking you what you they were probably giving them
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: terrible offers.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: So what do you think they were? I'm asking you
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: a question. So Cam Johnson for for what second round pick?
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: So so why would they even entertain that? Because they
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: want to keep you? All right, So that's my way
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: of looking at it. I would take the Bath on
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: a Cam Johnson deal and not a Peyton Watson deal.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: This isn't that confused. You're being right now. You're driving
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: me crazy because saying that because helped me saying does
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: not makes sense. I know this is what Let me.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Let me let me explain. I'm saying. I like Peyton
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Watson's potential. I would get rid of Cam Johnson before
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Peyton Watson. You guys are telling me that's impossible. Nobody
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: wants Cam Johnson. I said they were buffed several trade
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: offers for Cam Johnson. I don't know how this doesn't
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: make sense. I like your I know your brain better
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: than you do.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: You absolutely and you are absolutely abslimbered with pe Watt
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: and I get it, and so am I. But what
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you is it's for now, Brett,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: because if you if you can't walk up with Peyton Watson,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: you're gonna need a cam just for this season.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, so they haven't the deal yet.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so the fear, So the fear has been I mean,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: and the stalemate has been between Watson, but that unlocks
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: everything else and then maybe you will get your Cam
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: Johnson as well.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: But we got to focus on the Pea wat first.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Here's what you're not considering. Okay, here's focus on the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Pea Watt first. So you dump Cam Johnson's salary. Do
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: you know who the salary is?
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Twenty three million? Do you know what Peyton Watson wants?
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I know what he wants, That's why they're waiting. So
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: what do you think he wants? If they can trade
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Peyton Watson or I'm sorry, if they can get Peyton
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Watson at the deal that they're offering, which is sixteen
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: to eighteen as the reported now, he wants twenty he
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: wants more than the Christian Brown. I know what he wants,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: but nobody's given him an offer yet, right, So what
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: So if if it stays this way, the Nuggets are
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: doing what exactly what I'm talking about. I think we're
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: playing the waiting game. At some point point, if no
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: offer for twenty five million dollars comes on the table,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: he's either gonna have to accept the sixteen to eighteen
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: range that we're offering or the qualifying offer, and in
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: that case, we'll trade Cam Johnson then. But if he
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't and he gets a thirty million dollar offer for somebody,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: we'll keep Cam Johnson.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: I love your That's what I think has happened. I
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: love your passion right now. I like your hands. Your
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: hands are flying in the air.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: It's common sense, those facts.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: Okay, his glasses are fogging up right, But between you
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: and me, okay, as bros, just remember this is the
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: guy who thought Kawhi Leonard owned a football team.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, in Rhode Island.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: In Rhode Island, Okay, so he does, okayrd Island. So
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: let's let's just when he's when he's doing his hands
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: gyrations and foam's coming out of his deflection from all
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: the logic that just remember he thought Kawhi owned a
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: football team in Rhode Island. Now give it the Rhode
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Island butt cracks. Now, I'll give you that. Can you
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: do one of them?
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Anything I just said about.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: No, I but I'm telling you you're you're looking at
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: the improper order.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: It does.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: The order is not gonna go down like that because
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: you can't lose Camp right now.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: If you can't get p wats, you're gonna trade Camp.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: You're gonna trade him after the fact, absolutely, which is
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: what I'm That's exactly what I just.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Know what you see he is. You said you'd rather
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: do that, I'll make it. They would do that. Johnson
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: is Peyton Watson insurance if they can't afford him.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: So why do you think that hasn't happened then? Because
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the Nuggets Peyton hasn't taken an offer. Because the Nuggets
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: and Peyton Watson can't come to terms on an offer.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: That's why for this is the four Now, no, no, no,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: listen to me. Listen to me.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: The Nuggets and Peyton Watson, if they were in the
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: same ballpark on a contract, they'd come to the terms
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: on a contract and then the Nuggets would turn around
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: and do exactly what you said. But what's stopping that
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: from happening?
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Peyton Watson's gone, but he's got to come to terms
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: with an offer from somebody else.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: That's what he will because that's how Milk mill. They'll
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: already work the deal out. They'll give him twenty five
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: per They'll give him what he wants. That's why we
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: want to do the because they want the player, hang on,
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: hang on.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: If Milwaukee's gonna give him an offer that the Nuggets
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: cannot afford, that's the allegation, right, or don't want to afford.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they just put the offer sheet out if
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: they know the Nuggets because the Nugget. Why would they
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: do a sign and trade because the.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: Nuggets will match it. Because he's an asset, That's why.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: Because the Nuggets will match it and then worry about
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: it later. That's why.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, because you don't want to lose that asset for nothing.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: That's why we're out here at Broncos Park for day
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: one of Broncos' training camp and we have.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: I think what I'm getting at is I can't think
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: for the both of us. That's what I'm getting on.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I'm doing.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I'm doing plenty of fine thinking on my own. Take
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: that to heart, Okay, I love you. Take that to heart.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Drunk takes her next one final time for US Today,
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• 34:50
  Speaker 1: it has finally hit that time. Players shuffling out on
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the field doing their stretches, doing their stuff. Evan ingram
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: was doing. It looked like a he put his hand
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: on his act like he was Ebenezer Scrooge. For a second,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that stretch was. That stretch it
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: looked like like the big Yeah liked big Yeah, I'm
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: a big.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: You know, one of the And this is where you
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: get all the guys doing their habitual just pre game rituals, right,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: everybody's in a pre game ritual mode.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: Look at look at Tyler Man. He flocks so hard
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: as sleeves fell off.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Damn. He looks. You're looking good, baby, Tell her, are
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you good? Are you going sleeveless in December two? Yeah?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: He is? Are you going sleeveless in December two? Yeah? Yeah?
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: I think you look you look awesome? Bro okay, great,
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: well keep that to yourself all right?
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Then, one of the coaches walked by, not to be named,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: and he's looking at us, and he walks by and
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: as soon as he looked back the other way, two
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: snot rockets right onto the turf.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Bam, bam.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Because I don't want to indict him as it's not rocker,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: he's that's a moser move.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Moss is not rocket. Gay. Look, if you're in the
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: middle of a fish, no, this is like, this is
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: like being on a baseball diamond. Those rules don't apply.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: You snot rocket, You spit. You do whatever you need
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I just I guess I do it the more respectable way.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: What's that Absorb it and then spin it?
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, like that made me sick.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes, that's really the only way to do it.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: You farmers. Not wipe and move on. No, that's gross. Oh.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I know the guy you're talking about there right there,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: he looks like it's not rocket. Yeah, he's like, hey, man,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'll tell you what. We're coming out
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: here on this grass. Dude like can already my nose.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: He just did it again. I know they're starting to
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: get it again. All right, we're gonna have to call
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: it out. It's Darren Razy. You guys all knew it
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: was Darren. I mean, come on, of course that guy.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: But players making their way out here again that the
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: stands are almost it looks like sort of a a
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: PGA gallery sort of set up thing over there. It does.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: The nice thing is I think that's gonna be shaded
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: for most of the day. Gonna be pretty good. Yeah, yeah,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: oh who just came out?
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Oh wait? This is my favorite thing because the fans
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: were over by us last year and so you could
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: see who's trying to get the crowd hyped up. And
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out that's usually like undrafted rookies
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: or the ones that run through there, like I'm gonna
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: get my love for as long as I'm here. But
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: let's just go back to it. We know the main stories.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Bone Nick said in his ankle. I think that's gonna
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: take about forty eight hours and never be discussed again.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: My guess is bon Nicks will come out here, throw
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: the ball five times and it'll be like, oh, he
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: looks fine. Same thing as like what happened at Mahomes
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: or with Mahomes in the Chiefs training camp. You see
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: videos of him throwing like two balls. You're like, oh,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: so he's totally okay, got it to be honest, I
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: think it's a non story already. I've seen it off.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: But Jayalen Waddle is certainly somebody that is gonna have
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: all of the eyeballs on him because he is just
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: the way he moves is different. You said it, Vic,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: He's a glider, and I think Raj said this to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Coach yesterday. He glides in the way that Cal mccarr glides. Yeah,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: that's a great that's a great camp.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I'm the same kind of flow, right who follows our show?
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: By the way, because we're gonna be here every day
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: at camp, well, it'll be today, it'll be.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Raj and and it's gonna be like a company approach.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a whole bunch of people, so d
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Mac and Coach and Columbus and everybody. I think is
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: gonna just be kind of filtering in and out.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, by the way, Brett, you were completely correct. If
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: my eyeballs serve me right. The guy hyping up the
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: crowd over there was rookie free agent linebacker Dasson McCullough
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: from Nebraska.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Deason mccullo. Did you said, Dason, I don't. I don't
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: know it. I don't know that guy, big don I'm not.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. It's a tried and true thing.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Every year, the people who get the crowd hyped up
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: before practice are always somebody who just showed up. He
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: used to be von Miller too, though von Miller would
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: do it too. Oh, there's a couple, Like I thought
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: from the pop, I thought that meant that bo Nicks
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: walked out there, because we haven't heard that sort of
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: loud all right thing.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's a left field question for you guys as
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: we begin training camp players.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Who is your favorite name on the team? What name?
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Hang on to me? It's easy. I think of this
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: name all the time.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I think of this name is a great red Murdocks
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: are getting name, but great name doesn't. It doesn't do
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: it for me. It's not not my number one name.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: It's top five for me.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Names, just names, I mean, just are you still going
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: to for Bronie or No? No, it's not my favorite name.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Ooh that's a good one. You ready?
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: How can you not be a fan favorite if your
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: name is Calvin Throckmorton. Yeah, I mean Throckmorton.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Now he's been here for a minute. Okay, I am
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: five hundred people amping up the crowd. That is Cage Casey.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Cage Casey is one of my names.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: That's a cool name.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: That's a free agent offensive tackle out of Boise State.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: He's all these rookies right, put up the crowd. Yeah,
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: it's all this only love they're gonna get this year.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: That's so mean. I know we're desensitized to it. But
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: little Jordan is a pretty great name. That is. Yeah,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: just been here for so long, I mean, Q Robinson.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: How about this number eighty six wide receiver out of TCU,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: A rookie, Joseph Man Jack. I didn't even know there
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: was a guy down the rock. That's pretty damn good
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Joseph Man. Okay, all right, that might that might exceed Borton.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: What's your name? Hold on, man, Jack?
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Look I look at this. Look at this kid. Yeah,
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: it's Joe Man Jack the fourth. So there's there's three
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: other man Jackson. This Okay, that's badass that you gotta admit.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're beating that. No, No, what's your name, dude,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Man Jack? Joe Man Jack, what's up, Gavin Ortega, that's
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: a common name.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: No, you were your game, beat Man Jack, Man Jack
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: and Throck Mourner as good as it gets.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, hang on, hang on, I'm almost at the end
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: of the list. Yeah, no question, ye, Joseph Man Jackie's
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: our guy, far the greatest. He's a wide receiver. He's
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: our guy. Tough road to ho he ain't making the team.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Man Jack won't be here too long, so you better
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: enjoy him while you can.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, Man Jack. Hey, if you guys were wondering, I
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: know this is a shock. Joseph Man Jack is six
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: foot three? Did you guys do? Hang on, let's do it.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Let's do a test here. How many wide receivers and
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of them at camp every year. How
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: many wide receivers are under six foot two?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Marvin Mims and Jalen Waddle and no, no, no, the
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: the white kid who played last.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Year and got some time, Michael Bandy by Michael Bandy's
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: five ten.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would say there are three under six tours.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: Oh, there's one other kid, Cameron Ross, freezing rookie out
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: of Virginia.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, and we got a six foot one Colby Katsas
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: out of Northern Arizona. Ain't no man Jack, Joseph Manjick.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Hey, do you know the h he should be on Yellowstone? Dude,
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: do you know that he's at Northern Arizona? You know
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: the the uh mascot of Northern Arizona is Lumberjack, the Lumberjacks.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: And years ago when I was doing Big Sky Football,
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: their their coach's name was Steve AxMan.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I remember Steve x Man and the lumber coaching the Lumberjacks.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not even Steve AxMan coached the Lumberjacks whose best
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: wide receiver was Joseph man Jack. All right, So a
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: lot more from training camp to come, but it is
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: a Friday, so our favorite part of the week, please Nelli.
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: Orger Lombardi and Kane Chris and drunk Takes for the record,
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: dehumanizes us and it really cracks out our credibility as
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: a show.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Drunk Takes Drunk Takes their clips show throughout the week.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: We saw him down to half speed. It makes it
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: sound like we're hammered.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: Nellie bottom line vicing all this though, And by the way,
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: what's his face? Gosling is really growing on me.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: That being said, the.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Bottom hall land alone just he's had me in a tizzy.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Bottom line in all of this.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: Bottom line, Meryl Streep sucks.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Ass, so Vick fanning himself over Ryan Gosling and most
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: are giving his opinion on Meryl Streep. All right, what's next?
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: And I have a fourteen pound shit to be shine?
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Wait wait miss yeah, a little miit tobishi shit? What
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: did she say? I got a fourth? I had a
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: fourteen horse power min to be shot ship to be shot? What?
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I still don't understand what that is. There's a dog
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: that's a shiitsu and there's a dog that's a beeshan.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: For sake, it's just a put my fluffy dog and
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: it just knows a little white.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: We have FCC regulations s h I H space TZU.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Dude, Justin Schernatt goes to the bathroom every single day
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: at this time.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Do you know what that? He's a regular man? Yeah?
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: I like next you want to I'll tell you what
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: I invite you during the break. This is a clear invitation,
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: dear Vic, please meet me in the hallway to look
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: in all of my orifices for snot.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Do you take that invitation? That's the question. She never
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: took me up on it. No, I was waiting quickly.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: This this text from a loyal Texter. My dear sweet
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: saint of a mother just sent me the video of
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton and Drew Brees. Thanks to you, clowns, all
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I could hear with the moaning and pictures of Sean
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Payton as a cat, Colorado hockey fans, this is the
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: weekend you've been waiting for.
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: Join Jesus God, cut.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Shut up. I'm trying to spit it out. You shut
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: your mouth, all right, we got time for one more
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: go ahead?
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: No, no, that was a well cats too, but cats
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: usually get.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Loose in baseball.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: This is a squirrel of baseball, but squirrels get loose
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: or yeah.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I love your baseball. I love it.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: I love illogical non sequitur by just going uh yeah, yeah, yeah, Nelly.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Can I hear one thing on the way out, catcher baseball?
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Catcher baseball? Can I hear Sean Payton's sound one more time? Please?
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: On the way out?
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, with that, have a wonderful weekend. We'll talk to
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: you on Monday. A whole bunch more training camp coverage
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: coming away with everybody, it's gonna be a big party
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: here at Broncos Park. All training camp coverage brought to
• 46:27
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• 46:29
  Speaker 1: you all very much. Goodbye, Catcher Baseball