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- 0:00My dad took me and threw me across the room to the cops.
- 0:03It messes with your your mind a little bit because it's like,
- 0:06well, why would this guy throw me to the cops?
- 0:07And then ultimately abandoned us about a month later.
- 0:10I had a grandfather that stepped in and so he filled that gap for
- 0:14from 10 months old when my dad left and then he died.
- 0:27What happens when the people who were supposed to love and care
- 0:30for you don't? Sean Tice grew up with that
- 0:34reality, and it shaped how he saw himself and even how he saw
- 0:38God. If you've ever felt abandoned.
- 0:40Or like you weren't enough. This conversation will show you
- 0:43how God meets you in those places, and He'll begin to
- 0:46change how you even see yourself.
- 0:49Here's my conversation with Sean.
- 0:52Sean, before the Ministry, before the platforms, you were
- 0:55abandoned before your first birthday by your father, Is that
- 0:58correct? When you grew up without a
- 1:00father, what does that do to your identity?
- 1:04I mean, being abandoned it, it definitely messes with you.
- 1:07My, the whole story was my dad, I came home when I was about
- 1:10nine months old and he, he was an alcoholic.
- 1:14So he kicked my mother, my brother and my sister out of our
- 1:16house. For some reason, he kept me the
- 1:17little nine month old baby and instead of and then so then all
- 1:22this stuff happened where my mom went to the neighbor's house and
- 1:25they got the cops to show up and, and instead of handing me
- 1:27gently over to the cops, my dad took me and threw me across the
- 1:31room to the cops. And thankfully that cop would
- 1:33catch the cop caught me that that night and I was safe and
- 1:38fine. But it messes with your, your
- 1:40mind a little bit because it's like, well, why would this guy
- 1:42throw me to the cops and then ultimately abandoned us about a
- 1:44month later. He got on a bus, went back to
- 1:46his hometown of Las Vegas, NV and we were growing up in
- 1:49Pennsylvania and never came back.
- 1:50And so it does mess with your mind.
- 1:52Like why would he, Why would he do all this?
- 1:54But I also knew that he had grown up fadless and he didn't
- 1:57have a dad growing up. So he he had all these demons
- 2:01and things he was working through these struggles that he
- 2:03faced. And so knowing that helped it,
- 2:06but it still messes with you. It's like, was I not good
- 2:09enough? You know what was I not a, why
- 2:11wouldn't somebody want to be my my dad, right?
- 2:14But thankfully I had mentors and people that put in my life and
- 2:16help me through it. When like growing up with any
- 2:20schools and then maybe you went to church.
- 2:22I don't know if you went to church growing up, but you
- 2:24probably noticed at some point your family life, your home life
- 2:27was different than other kids. How did that affect you?
- 2:31Yeah, we, we, I went to, we actually rode the bus back in
- 2:35the day when there are big bus ministries of churches.
- 2:38We rode the bus as a family to church.
- 2:40And so we're one of the only families of the church that was
- 2:43a from a, we call a broken home, a divorce family.
- 2:46My mom was one of the only single moms.
- 2:47We were on some of the only fatherless kids.
- 2:49And so it, it was kind of awkward.
- 2:51There was a few other women that were in different situations
- 2:54like that, but you knew and like in class, I was blessed to go to
- 2:58the Christian School that was with the church we went to.
- 3:01But and we knew, like in my class, I think I was the only,
- 3:04the only kid that was from a divorced family.
- 3:07And so most of the kids were from good homes.
- 3:09They had mom and dad And so you, you kind of felt like a little
- 3:12awkward. And then I moved in with my
- 3:14grandparents. And so I was definitely one of
- 3:16the only kids that was being raised by his grandparents too.
- 3:19And so it was that was kind of a weird situation And and so you
- 3:22but you navigate through it. There was some mean kids in in
- 3:24the school that would my grandparents smoked for a while.
- 3:26So this mean kids really make fun of you for, you know, do you
- 3:29smoke to ask you questions? Not my grandparents do, like,
- 3:31you know, stuff like that. But it was one of those things
- 3:34where you just learn to deal with it, you know, and just
- 3:37overcome it, right? Did you grow up feeling the
- 3:40absence of your father or was that something you process
- 3:43later? Is it I mean?
- 3:43I, I did feel it, I knew the way it went on, but I also, I had a
- 3:48grandfather that stepped in and so he filled that gap for from
- 3:5210 months old when my dad left until about almost 6th grade.
- 3:56And then he died. And so he died of lung cancer,
- 3:58like I said about smoking, died of lung cancer.
- 4:00And that's when I really felt it.
- 4:03I I really knew, wow, I don't have a dad.
- 4:05My my grandfather. That was my dad.
- 4:07He's he died. But that's when I really started
- 4:10in yeah, I mean, I tween awkward time.
- 4:12And so I'm I was, I was a mass. I mean, I struggled for for a
- 4:15while then. And so only by the grace of God,
- 4:17I'm sitting with you now because I, I could have went in a
- 4:20completely different direction because of that.
- 4:22You know that's the beautiful thing about God, right?
- 4:24He shows up and he's there all along, even when he can't see it
- 4:27yet, you know, He's always present, just there, loving us
- 4:31and ministering to us and filling that place.
- 4:35Can I ask you something a little bit more personal?
- 4:38Was there ever a lie that you started to believe about
- 4:41yourself because your dad wasn't there?
- 4:44Yeah, I mean, honestly, I because even with having my
- 4:46grandparents in school, I would feel like I wasn't as good as
- 4:49the the other kids, you know what I mean?
- 4:51Like they're coming from good families there.
- 4:53We were low income family and in this Christian School that most
- 4:57of the families are coming from, a lot of them had money, you
- 5:00know, they had way more resources than we had.
- 5:02And so you, you did feel inferior.
- 5:04I, I, I dealt with an inferiority complex for a long
- 5:06time, feeling like people that had a dad were better than me.
- 5:09They, their dads took them hunting.
- 5:10Their dads showed them how to work on a car.
- 5:12The dads showed them how to fix things, use a hammer, using, you
- 5:15know, things like that. I, I didn't have that.
- 5:17And so I was a city boy from the city area where I grew up.
- 5:20A lot of the kids that I went to school with were country.
- 5:22They and they had a country came with a lot of manly things that
- 5:26their dads were teaching them. Thankfully I had mentors that
- 5:28taught me, but it took me a while to overcome that
- 5:31inferiority. Thankfully I, like I said, I had
- 5:33mentors that helped with that and that over the years and how
- 5:36I hoped was able to overcome that, but it took a long time.
- 5:39Yeah. Did it affect though, how you
- 5:41saw God too? Like, like because you know God
- 5:44is our Father, right? You didn't have an earthly
- 5:47father, so how did that not having an earthly father impact
- 5:52your view of God as a heavenly Father?
- 5:55Well, for me it was I dealt with abandonment.
- 5:58A lot of people, they look at God like they look at the
- 6:00earthly dad mine. Mine was God was going to
- 6:03abandon me. And so I had to, for a long
- 6:05time, I, I thought God was going to forsake me, but it says
- 6:10clearly in the scripture, I will never leave thee nor forsake
- 6:12thee, right? And so he was never going to
- 6:14forsake me. But I, I felt like just because
- 6:16my, my birthday, I did and my, then my grandfather died, that
- 6:19eventually my God, God's, my God's going to go away from me
- 6:23too, right? My heavenly Father's going to
- 6:24walk away. And it wasn't even something I
- 6:26like continually focused on, but I've always felt like I, it was
- 6:29a performance thing. I had to make sure that I'm
- 6:32perfect or something just so God won't walk away, you know, so
- 6:35won't, won't abandoned me, won't, won't separate from me.
- 6:38So, you know, it's, it's something that's I think it's a
- 6:40lifelong battle, honestly, where you're like, Hey, I don't want
- 6:42to, I don't want to, you know, just please God because they'll
- 6:46walk away. And so it's something I've had
- 6:47to fight for a long time. And I think even in adulthood,
- 6:50it's something I have to, to make sure that I, I'm careful
- 6:53that I'm looking at God with the right eyes.
- 6:55You know, I leave a ministry called God is my Dad and God is
- 6:57my dad, but I make sure I have to make sure I look at him in
- 7:00the right way. Yes, absolutely.
- 7:02Was it difficult then when you like, I assume that your
- 7:06relationship with God growing up in a Christian School, in
- 7:11church, you had a relationship with God from a young age, I
- 7:14would imagine, right? But was there ever a point where
- 7:17trusting God became an issue for you?
- 7:21Oh, I've had different times over my life where it's like I
- 7:24try to do it on my own because I feel like I'm all by myself and
- 7:26I'm trying to make sure I'm taking care of things.
- 7:29And, and honestly, when I fully rely on God during and I
- 7:32overcome that, that's when I have the best times because I'm
- 7:35like, yeah, if I'm trying to do it on my own in my own power, it
- 7:38ends up being a mess and it ends up being just a horrible
- 7:42situation. But when I'm fully finally
- 7:44realized, OK, I can't, literally can't do anything.
- 7:47And then God's put me through times where He's made me realize
- 7:50you can't do this yourself, right?
- 7:53And, and I've had to fully rely on him.
- 7:55And even in adulthood, He's had me do that as well.
- 7:59I wish I would have gotten that lesson so much sooner that when
- 8:01we surrender and come to the end of ourselves, that's when he
- 8:06shows up and it's like, oh, this is so much easier if I would
- 8:09just give up my own will and try stop trying to do it in my own.
- 8:13I feel like for me it's like an ongoing.
- 8:15Thing like me too. What are you doing?
- 8:16Why are you? But I think.
- 8:18As we get older, like I'm now 50 and so I'm like, oh, I'm going
- 8:22to stop fighting. God, let go.
- 8:25And you know, if it's uncomfortable, you know,
- 8:29whatever it is, it's, it's uncomfortable.
- 8:31I'm just going to trust he's got a plan.
- 8:33I'm going to go for it and it gets more comfortable, right?
- 8:36You're right. Even this past year that we, we,
- 8:38we got a new house and our three days after we moved in, our
- 8:41house flooded and, and it, we've had to go through insurance and
- 8:45get everything got fixed. But now we're living in this
- 8:47house and I'm like, you know, I've had time for, I'm nervous
- 8:50about it because we're for floods again.
- 8:52You know, you get this PTSD and I've had to get to the point
- 8:54where, I mean, this is recent, this is real recent for us.
- 8:56I had to get, I've had to get to the point where I'm like, God,
- 8:58this is yours. This is your house, this is your
- 9:01stuff. This is I, I don't own this.
- 9:03And I had to just fully give it to God.
- 9:04And there's been so many situations like that in life
- 9:07where it's like, God, this is yours.
- 9:08And so and I think he wants us to be at that point where you're
- 9:11not, it's not about you controlling the situation, you
- 9:14know, and when we see the God allowed to have him for a
- 9:16reason, but it's just, I see that.
- 9:19I've seen it so many times over the years.
- 9:21I love, I love that you you kind of let Lud into a little bit
- 9:25because sometimes God takes the most difficult, darkest things
- 9:30in our life and he turns it around and the Scripture says
- 9:33he'll turn it around for our good, right?
- 9:35And he's doing that through your ministry now.
- 9:39So, you know, he's taking that childhood that you felt
- 9:42abandoned. You felt, you know, good enough.
- 9:45Yeah. And he's turning it around.
- 9:46And what is he doing today in your life because of that?
- 9:51Several things. I mean, I'm in a phase right now
- 9:53where I have a 17 year old, a 15 year old and 11 year old.
- 9:57And like I said, my dad grew up faudless, I grew up faultless.
- 10:01And so I'm trying as a dad, trying to break the cycle of
- 10:03that. So that's something I'm really
- 10:04been focusing on as being a good dad to my kids.
- 10:07And it's not easy when you didn't have a model of a, you
- 10:09know, a lot of good. One thing I have found is
- 10:12whenever you didn't have a dad growing up, you can learn from
- 10:14all the dads out there who you don't want to be and who you do
- 10:17want to be. And so I've kind of enjoyed
- 10:19that. But that's one of the things is
- 10:19focusing on being a good dad. It's our ministry is really
- 10:23focusing on creating good content and good resources that
- 10:27can help fatherless families. And we're launching single mom
- 10:29ministries and trying to do those things and really just
- 10:32focusing on trying to to do the ministry that God's called me to
- 10:35do and be and be the person God's called me to be as a dad,
- 10:38as a husband, as a ministry leader and things like that.
- 10:41So for someone that's watching today who maybe they're growing
- 10:47up fatherless, what would you want to say to that?
- 10:51I would say you can, you can overcome it because
- 10:53fatherlessness often looks like a impossible situation.
- 10:56And a lot of times fatherless individuals, they, they kind of
- 11:00just let life be what it is. And, and if you're listening to
- 11:04this, you know what I mean, where you're kind of like, well,
- 11:05it is what it is. And so I, whatever I become, I
- 11:08become. But you can do great things for
- 11:11God and God does care about you and God does love you.
- 11:13The world wants you to think that God does not care about
- 11:16you. The world wants you to think
- 11:17that that you, you can't do anything with your life that you
- 11:21should just kind of lay down and let become a statistic.
- 11:24But you can overcome the statistics.
- 11:25You can overcome whatever it is, the obstacles you're facing, and
- 11:28you can do great things and you can break the cycle of
- 11:30faudlessness in your family, because often times us faudless.
- 11:34We make our kids faudless or us that maybe, maybe you're, you're
- 11:37a young lady and you make your kids motherless because of the
- 11:41situation you had. I want to encourage you don't
- 11:43become a statistic. Make sure that as you go down
- 11:46this, this path of, of life, that you don't become a
- 11:49statistic through becoming an addict or becoming imprisoned
- 11:54and doing things that are going to lead you down that path
- 11:56because those things will, will destroy your future, right?
- 12:00And, and there's no coping methods such as alcohol and
- 12:04drugs and even relationships and whatever it might be that you're
- 12:08trying to cope with not having a dad in your life.
- 12:10Nothing's going to bring that happiness to your life.
- 12:13We've been doing this ministry for over 17, around 17 years.
- 12:16And we've seen over the last 17 plus years that that individuals
- 12:21that try to find hope through other things besides God, they
- 12:26never find that hope. Nothing ever, money, nothing,
- 12:30nothing, none of it ever brings happiness except for God.
- 12:33And so that's what I want to encourage you with is find a
- 12:35relationship with God. Pursue it.
- 12:37If you're young, understand it. It does take time as you try to,
- 12:41to, for most people, it takes time where you try to own God as
- 12:45your father and you try to really accept that it's taking
- 12:47me. I'm 41 years old.
- 12:48It's taking me a long time to get to that point.
- 12:50But I honestly, I wake up every day and I, I try to own the fact
- 12:53that God is my father and that he loves me and he cares about
- 12:56me and he's going to take care of me and he's going to provide
- 12:59and, and accepting those blessings, accepting those
- 13:01promises from Scripture. And so again, embrace God as
- 13:04your dad. And what's that look like?
- 13:06Praying to God every day, reading God's word?
- 13:08If you're not a Christian, you've ever trusted in Jesus as
- 13:10your savior, Trust in Jesus as your savior.
- 13:12That's the first step. And then growing in your faith
- 13:14through praying, reading God's word, trusting in God and and
- 13:17walking with Him. So when did your relationship
- 13:20with God just really become personal for you?
- 13:23You know what I mean? Because I grew up in church, it
- 13:25sounds like you did too. So as I was a preacher's kid for
- 13:30a while, you know what I mean? Like my dad was a pastor, so
- 13:33like you just go along with the flow, but when did it really
- 13:36become real for you? Well, there's been different
- 13:38phases. You know, I, I got when I was a
- 13:42bus kid, I was four years old. I, I remember praying and
- 13:44trusting in Jesus as my savior when I was four years old.
- 13:47But honestly, I didn't really have a relationship with God at
- 13:49that. I don't really, you know what I
- 13:50mean? I don't remember as I remember
- 13:51doing that. And then I remember in 7th
- 13:53grade, I, I prayed and I made assurance to my salvation
- 13:56because I just didn't feel like I really meant it when I was
- 13:57four years old that I really wanted to be a follower of
- 13:59Jesus. But then when I was 15 years
- 14:03old, I felt like God was calling me to be a pastor.
- 14:05I went to a youth conference with my church and, and they're
- 14:08talking about going into full time ministry.
- 14:09I feel like God will lead me into that.
- 14:11And so I think around that time, 8th grade and then 15 years old
- 14:16is when I really started trying to grow on my face.
- 14:18But I was a teenager, I mean, I still struggled with some
- 14:20things. And if you're a teenager, I
- 14:22understand that you're not going to be perfect.
- 14:23And so God's not expecting you to be perfect, but he wants you
- 14:26to have a relationship with you. And as you have a relationship
- 14:29with God, he's he, you have a desire to do right.
- 14:34Yeah, as you, as you walk with God, you'll have a desire to do
- 14:36right. And so as I grew closer to God,
- 14:38I would have more of a desire to do right things.
- 14:40And so honestly, from the teen years and then I went to Bible
- 14:43college and that was a struggle in itself.
- 14:46But honestly, just, it's been different phases throughout my
- 14:48life where I'm like just getting growing closer and closer to
- 14:51God. And I feel like just like with I
- 14:53said my house flooding, I feel like I just went to another
- 14:55phase where I'm fully, fully learning to even more rely on
- 14:59him every day. Was there a specific moment in
- 15:03your story where you just felt that shift?
- 15:06You know, like from feeling abandoned, from feeling maybe
- 15:10unloved? I don't know if you felt that
- 15:12like feeling lost. What was the shift in your
- 15:15story? Because if someone's listening
- 15:16and they're feeling all abandoned, they're feeling like
- 15:20I don't have anybody, I'm alone. What shifted in your story that
- 15:25they maybe can relate? To.
- 15:27Well, honestly, when I, when I was like I said, when I was in
- 15:29about 7th, 8th grade, I, I made assurance my salvation and then
- 15:32I started reading certain trying to read the Bible.
- 15:35And I think so when I started really trying to read the Bible
- 15:37and I was not great at it in 8th grade, but when I started
- 15:42letting the word of God speak to me and that's when I really feel
- 15:45like it started becoming true. And you can be in 8th grade and
- 15:49do that. You can go on the Bible app and
- 15:51and read one verse, the verse of the day on the Bible app.
- 15:54And I think that's when I started.
- 15:56And again, I was not a perfect teenager.
- 15:58I went through faces up and down, backslidden, you know, but
- 16:02the times that I was really overcoming my fatherless
- 16:05situation was when I was walking with God and when I was reading
- 16:10God's word, when I was dabbling in sand, when I was, you know,
- 16:12backslidden. Those are the times when
- 16:14fatherlessness was really worse in my situation.
- 16:18So I would really struggle because I wasn't relying on God
- 16:20anymore. I was relying on myself.
- 16:22And so really that was the time 8th grade was the starting
- 16:25point, I feel like for me. And then it went, you know,
- 16:27through ups and downs and but as I would go back to God and I
- 16:31would say, OK, I need to walk with God here, that's when I
- 16:33would really just overcome my situation.
- 16:36And so that's when it started. And then honestly, I think when
- 16:39I went to Bible college again, I went to teen years and I had ups
- 16:42and downs. I got to Bible college.
- 16:43I was like, this is real. Now I know God's calling me to
- 16:45do something with my life, to be a pastor, you know, 18 years
- 16:49old, almost 19, and it's time for me to take this thing
- 16:52serious. And I think that's really where
- 16:53I just started going, you know, like I got to be serious about
- 16:56this. God's called, put a calling on
- 16:57my life. I can't joke about this anymore.
- 16:59I can't mess around. It's time to take it serious.
- 17:01And and you know, obviously there were just, I'm a human.
- 17:04There's been times where it's dipped up and down a little bit
- 17:06here and there, but that's where it really was sort of taken off.
- 17:09And so just when I really was serious, I got to do something
- 17:11for God and whatever God's called you to do.
- 17:13I mean, you don't have to go into full time ministry, but
- 17:15maybe God's called you to be a business person or I don't know
- 17:18what it is, but go with God in that situation.
- 17:21And when you choose to go with God in it, it changes your whole
- 17:23situation. Where was your mom in the whole
- 17:25situation when your dad left? Well, my mom, I lived with her
- 17:29until I was about 6 years old and then she met another guy and
- 17:33moved into another guy's house. And so from second, it was like
- 17:376-7 years old, she went into another guy's house and I moved
- 17:41with my grandparents full time. And so I, I would see her, you
- 17:44know, but we didn't live together until I was in 9th
- 17:47grade. And so it was like 7 years that
- 17:49we were separated and then by the time she moved back in, she
- 17:52moved back in in 7th, 9th grade and she became like a friend.
- 17:56It was, you know, she, we weren't, we didn't really have
- 17:58that mom son relationship. It was more of a, a friend
- 18:01situation because my grandparents raised me for that
- 18:04all those years. So that's where she was at.
- 18:06So that added a another layer of abandonment, almost honestly.
- 18:10She left you for another a man basically.
- 18:14How did that what kind of marks did that leave?
- 18:16Because there's, there's being fatherless is one thing, but you
- 18:20weren't just fatherless. You were fatherless and
- 18:22motherless for a period of time. I mean, you had your
- 18:24grandparents, but grandparents aren't the same thing as a
- 18:26mother and a father. That's something I honestly
- 18:29didn't really unpack until the last few years.
- 18:32I was so focused on my dad not being around and there was so
- 18:35much trauma there from him being abusive and and throwing me to
- 18:38the cops and stuff that I kind of even my my mom moved in with
- 18:41that guy. I put a lot of the blame on my
- 18:44dad, you know what I mean? And I didn't put it on her.
- 18:48But over the past few years, and I'm, and I'm not bitter at her.
- 18:50I've unpacked that more where I'm like, oh, she did forsake
- 18:54me. She did go choose another guy
- 18:56over me. And it's even realized, wow,
- 18:58that was a pretty terrible situation and pretty, pretty
- 19:01lousy thing to do. And I remember even like
- 19:04Christmas like my, my brother and sister would be at that.
- 19:07They lived in that other house and they would do Christmas
- 19:10without me because her boyfriend or the guy that she lived with
- 19:12didn't like me. And, you know, because of the
- 19:14little, I was the youngest, I was a little kid, he was, I was
- 19:16annoying. It was that stuff.
- 19:18And it, it was just kind of weird.
- 19:20They would do Christmas together and then I would have to sit and
- 19:22on Christmas morning and wait for them to come and just things
- 19:25like that. It messes with you as a kid, you
- 19:28know. And so thankfully my
- 19:29grandparents, they would, I did, I would do stuff with them on
- 19:31Christmas morning and things like that.
- 19:33Just things like that that really mess with my, my mind, I
- 19:37think, but I didn't really think about it, like I said, because
- 19:39I, I was more focused on my dad being in the scumbag.
- 19:42But my mom and I we've, you know, we still, you know, we
- 19:45still talk and things like that. I mean, but it's, it's never
- 19:48really been that father son or mother son relationship since
- 19:51she moved into that guy's house when I was like 7 years old.
- 19:55If someone's listening and they're maybe dealing with that,
- 19:57yeah, same thing. Like that's an added layer.
- 19:59Oh yeah. What could you say to them?
- 20:01The. Bible verse says when my mother
- 20:03and father forsake me, then the Lord will take me up.
- 20:05I mean, as the, the Lord will be there, he'll be my, he'll fill
- 20:08that void. And thing is God will fill that
- 20:10void. And I, I know I keep saying
- 20:12that, but our ministry is God is it's called God is my dad God,
- 20:15God will fill the void of my mom.
- 20:16I don't want to say God is my mom, but God will fill the void
- 20:19of me not having a mom because he cares about me so much that
- 20:21God wants to fill every void in your life.
- 20:23And so no matter whether your your mom or dad or both have
- 20:26walked away or your or maybe you had a mentor like my you had my
- 20:30grandfather was in my life that's passed away and and
- 20:32you're like, man, there's nobody around anymore.
- 20:35God is there? He's an he's an ever present
- 20:38help in our troubles with the Bible tells us he wants to have
- 20:42a relationship with you. He wants to talk to you
- 20:45everyday, but you got to let him, you got to read his Bible.
- 20:48You have to spend time with him. And for me, I talked to God all
- 20:52day long. You know, it's, it's something
- 20:54where I'm just like, OK, God, what do you think about this?
- 20:56And I know that might sound weird to talk to God like that,
- 20:57but that's what I do. And it, it honestly works.
- 21:00God loves us so much that he wants a relationship, he wants
- 21:03an active relationship with us. And so when you start walking
- 21:07like that, it is an amazing thing.
- 21:08And God, I had a, the president of my college, I went to Trinity
- 21:12Baptist College in Jacksonville, FL and the president of our
- 21:14college, he said, said, I think God shows a little more favor to
- 21:18the fadless or to those that are, I think to lacking a
- 21:21parent. And I really believe that.
- 21:23And, and that's not to, to, to brag or something like that, but
- 21:27he, I think God really does because he, he loves them.
- 21:30The Bible says pure religion and undefiled before God and the
- 21:32Father's this to visit the fathers and widows and their
- 21:34affliction. The Bible says it's a pure
- 21:36religious practice for individuals to go and visit the
- 21:39fathers. God truly cares about the
- 21:41fathers. He wants them reached.
- 21:43He wants them helped and so God, who cares about you?
- 21:46You just have to accept that care.
- 21:47So it really plays with a individual's identity when
- 21:51you're like, I mean, you had, like I said, we just had this
- 21:54multiple layer just be added here with your mom being absent
- 21:57as well as your dad. How did that play into your
- 22:00identity in Christ, maybe just as a as a man as a young boy?
- 22:05And how did you overcome that to really find out who you were in
- 22:09Christ? I mean, I had I had mentors.
- 22:14I think God used people to pour into my life.
- 22:19I had a grandparents that came to stepped in.
- 22:22Then I had a youth pastor and his wife that became a mentor
- 22:25for about a year, year and a half when he first came to our
- 22:27church and they would let us come to the house and spend time
- 22:30with them. And so they were they were
- 22:31great. Then I had different people in
- 22:32our church that would take me. One guy threw me hunting.
- 22:36Another couple, I could go to their house.
- 22:39But then when I was 15 years old, I had this couple that I
- 22:41started working for. It was a job and I would just
- 22:45work at their house and cut grass or whatever.
- 22:49And I quickly became like a son to them without any blood
- 22:51relation or marriage relation. But for for me, God used those
- 22:54type of mentors. And so that guy named Jim, Jim
- 22:57and Deb, I mean, Jim became my my mentor for from when I was 15
- 23:02years old up until last this past year when he passed away.
- 23:05And so 25 years that he was my dad in my life again, no blood
- 23:09relation, no marriage relation. There was still and there was
- 23:12always this, still this in the back of my head.
- 23:14I knew he wasn't my real dad. And there's always this
- 23:17abandonment things. And but I encourage you find a
- 23:20mentor, find somebody that you can.
- 23:22And, and for me, God brought them into my life.
- 23:24So maybe just pray about if you can't find somebody, pray that
- 23:26God will lead you to people that can pour into your life again.
- 23:29I still struggle. And I mean, these people want my
- 23:31blood. They weren't except for my
- 23:32grandparents. These people want my blood.
- 23:34They weren't wasn't my real dad, wasn't my real mom, because that
- 23:38was like a second mom to me, but God used them to influence my
- 23:41life and then he also through a relationship with him at.
- 23:44Some point you like you, you no longer identified as father.
- 23:47Because of those mentors, right, and because of learning about
- 23:51God is my father. I mean, that was those are,
- 23:53those are the things that's awesome.
- 23:54Yeah, that's awesome. I, I mean, that is so important.
- 23:58Community, yes, community is vital.
- 24:02Like even if we don't have the community we should have in our
- 24:04homes, in our, in our parents, we, we have people.
- 24:08God has put people out there that will fill that void.
- 24:11And I love that he did that for you.
- 24:13That's that's one. Of the things that's real quick.
- 24:14I with our we have God is my dad app that we have.
- 24:18We we do mentoring videos and stuff like that.
- 24:20And I want you to encourage you to check that out.
- 24:22But find if you're a teenager, find a youth group, find a
- 24:25church that you can get involved in.
- 24:26If you're a single mom, listen to this We start single mom
- 24:29ministries or we have curriculum and stuff.
- 24:31Find a single mom industry that you can plug into or start one
- 24:33and where you can have community yourself.
- 24:35I mean that those are important things like you said, being
- 24:38plugged in, right? Having.
- 24:39To a local support structure. I mean that's it's vital, it's
- 24:42life saving, especially if you have brokenness in there.
- 24:45You know, what I love about your story is that God doesn't waste
- 24:51anything in our life is that you've turned it around and now
- 24:55you're using it to help other people.
- 24:57So I love that. But.
- 24:58If you could sit across. From that younger version of
- 25:01yourself, my audience tends to be 18 to 35, and so a lot of
- 25:07them are going to be listening to your story and a lot of them
- 25:12are relating. What would you say to someone
- 25:14that's sitting to? Your younger version of
- 25:16yourself. Soon as you ask, soon as you
- 25:18sent the question I thought God will take care of because I've
- 25:23spent so many, because I was trying to figure out, you know,
- 25:29like like my dad, laughs grandfather, the House of 12.
- 25:33So I was. Going to ask you.
- 25:37I was in the house 12 years old with my gram and my mom didn't
- 25:40live there. And so I've always had this
- 25:42like, how are we going to figure this out?
- 25:44I mean, like even the 41 years old, it's still blessed with the
- 25:46fact. But looking back, if I talked to
- 25:48my young self, I said, God's not take care, don't sit around and
- 25:51worry. All it's going to do is mess
- 25:53with your health mentally and virtually, physically.
- 25:55And so don't worry. The Bible tells us to not worry
- 25:59about anything. And I believe that God has that
- 26:01environment because God knows He created us.
- 26:05He knows. It will affect our health.
- 26:06It will affect us mentally, emotional, spirit and
- 26:09physically. And so that's what I would say.
- 26:11And when we don't worry, we're not sitting around worrying.
- 26:13We can focus on blessings from God.
- 26:16We can focus on what God's doing.
- 26:17We can do more forget. And so I think that's what
- 26:20we're. Well, thank you so much.
- 26:22For sharing your story, someone wants to connect with your
- 26:24middle St. How can they do that?
- 26:26Thanks for having me, Sir Sean Tice Sean team of the IAS on
- 26:30social media, on the Facebook, Instagram.
- 26:33Now we also have God is my dad that is my dad's on TikTok.
- 26:36It's your Facebook, Instagram. There's obviously search for God
- 26:39is my dad. Follow us.
- 26:40We'd love to connect to see him. There's all kinds of video
- 26:42content and then also we have an app to search on the Apple.
- 26:44I'm giving a Play Store for God is my dad.
- 26:46We connect with us. There's some free devotionals
- 26:48out there whilst on the Bible. We'll have your version.
- 26:50I think with Stan, turns out to me most in this conversation is
- 26:54that what you walk through doesn't have to define who you
- 26:57become. And even in places where
- 27:00something or someone was missing, God has a way of
- 27:03stepping into those places and meeting you right where you are.
- 27:08And this is what I love most about him.
- 27:10When we allow God to, He will take the very things that we
- 27:14walk through and He uses them to help someone else.
- 27:18If you want to learn more about Shawn's ministry, God is My Dad,
- 27:22You can go visit his website, godismydad.com.
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