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Ohio State Football LIVE: 5 Things To Know About The Ohio State Defense Vs. Oregon · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special live episode of Buckeyes Tomorrow
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Speaker 1: morning for Saturday, December twenty eighth. I'm your host tom
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Speaker 1: Or the Oregon game, the Rose Bowl, in fact, in
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Speaker 1: four days, the game he gets officiallyated in three hundred
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Speaker 1: and thirty six days. Joined by Tony Gerderman a Buckehaddle
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Speaker 1: dot Com. Tony, first of all, Saturday feels wrong. This
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Speaker 1: definitely does not have the feel of a Friday as
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Speaker 1: we're doing this. The Rose Bowl can't possibly be in
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Speaker 1: like four four and a half days. That can't possibly
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Speaker 1: be right. But one thing that does feel right is
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Speaker 1: Ohio State and Oregon. They are going to have a rematch.
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Speaker 1: We walked out of the stadium in Autin Stadium going,
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Speaker 1: I bet that's not the last time we see these
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Speaker 1: two teams play this year. They will have a rematch.
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Speaker 1: We just get a chance to talk to Ohio State
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Jim Knowles and a couple defensive players just
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Speaker 1: sort of so we're gonna be focusing on that side
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Speaker 1: of the ball during today's show. And I think the
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Speaker 1: first question that everyone wants to ask is, so, what's
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Speaker 1: different now with the Ohios Date defense now compared to
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Speaker 1: what they were the last time they played Oregon.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom, you ask, you're trying to set me up.
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Speaker 2: And based on all of the answers that we got
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Speaker 2: about what's different, I mean, you know, really, you know,
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Speaker 2: just you know, focused.
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Speaker 3: There was a lot of you know, you know, and.
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Speaker 2: Then of course you get the other thing and then
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Speaker 2: finally yes, you know, but yeah, what is different, Like
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Speaker 2: there's some schematic things that nobody really gets into.
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Speaker 4: There is a renewed.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was Cody Simon talking or
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Speaker 2: whoever was, it was basically like they made us bleed
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Speaker 2: our own blood. And that's a lesson that from this
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Speaker 2: is like, oh, you know, we're not high. You know,
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Speaker 2: we're not you know, we do have some flaws. And
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Speaker 2: that was one of the takeaways is that, yeah, they
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Speaker 2: can still get better. And it took them a little
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Speaker 2: while to get over it, and including leading into the
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Speaker 2: Nebraska game. I think they were still feeling it. But
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Speaker 2: then you come out of that and you're playing pretty well,
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Speaker 2: and it just it was I think what was a
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Speaker 2: Cody Simon said it was more of just a mindset.
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Speaker 1: Change, and you know, I think there natural question when
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Speaker 1: you look at the results of the Ohiostate defense has
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Speaker 1: gotten through the course of the year, There's been a
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Speaker 1: lot of zero's and sevens and tens in the points allowed,
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Speaker 1: So the thirty two really does kind of stand out.
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Speaker 1: That's a real outlier and not in a good way.
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Speaker 1: And so that's also the best team that Ohio State
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Speaker 1: is played. So then the natural question is, Okay, did
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Speaker 1: they have a bad game Oregon? Just like much of that,
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Speaker 1: how much of that gets divided up between Yeah, Orgon's
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Speaker 1: good at football, that's why they have the one next
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Speaker 1: to their name, and how much of it is, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Ohio State didn't play their best game that day.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think every time that that sort of question was posed,
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Speaker 2: it was like, well, fifty to fifty, it's a little
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Speaker 2: from column May, a little from Columby. Oregon is obviously
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Speaker 2: very talented offensively, we've seen it all season long, but
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Speaker 2: we've also seen an Ohio State defense that, you know,
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Speaker 2: it is better than what they showed in that game,
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Speaker 2: and they believe that that they are. And the thing
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Speaker 2: that I keep going back to is that it was
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Speaker 2: as much as some players didn't play their best, it
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Speaker 2: was also I don't think this was a this was
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Speaker 2: not Jim Nole's best game plan or how to handle
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Speaker 2: the Oregon offense. It was what they showed in that game.
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Speaker 2: What the organ offense showed in that game was not
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Speaker 2: really what they had shown all season long with the
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Speaker 2: downfield passing. And so now, now what kind of Oregon
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Speaker 2: offense are you going to get? I think whatever it is,
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Speaker 2: your defense is better equipped to handle it.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 2: They've gotten better as the season's going on. They've gotten
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Speaker 2: more aggressive in what they do, and I think that's
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Speaker 2: main The main change is the aggression. And I think
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Speaker 2: it was a tie handle to talk about how you know,
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Speaker 2: the defensi VENs are able to get a little more
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Speaker 2: free the the additional blitzing has allowed for the defensive
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Speaker 2: line to get home more. So now is how well
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Speaker 2: does the orgon offensive line, How well does Dylan Gabriel
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Speaker 2: handle that increased aggression rather than just hey, we're going
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Speaker 2: to drop back and make them, you know, find somebody open.
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Speaker 1: And that is a big part of like a mindset change,
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Speaker 1: because the first game zero sacks for Ohio State, and
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Speaker 1: you look at what has sort of happened since then,
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Speaker 1: you know, they don't they don't want to talk about
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Speaker 1: the change, but hey, it has become more of a
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Speaker 1: what you traditionally thought of as a gymnole's defense. It
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Speaker 1: feels like in the back half of the schedule, and
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Speaker 1: with that has come a lot more pressure on the
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and a lot more sex. So then the question is, okay,
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Speaker 1: does will that follow with more sacks this time? And
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Speaker 1: then you get last time or you know, I mean
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Speaker 1: they talked to Ty Hamilton was asked about Oregon Center,
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Speaker 1: who's poncho. We're gonna we're gonna just stick with his
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Speaker 1: first name because it's a a Hawaiian last name with
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Speaker 1: a lot of vowels, and I don't want to say
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Speaker 1: it wrong, but we'll get it.
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Speaker 3: We'll get it into we'll get it into a conversation.
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Speaker 1: So but you know, how much of that is, Hey,
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Speaker 1: Organ's offense, the line is really good, and how much
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Speaker 1: of that is you know, with what they're doing now
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Speaker 1: that might solve some of those issues.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think anytime you're increasing the chaos, that increases
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Speaker 2: the opportunity of your defense doing something. But also anytime
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Speaker 2: you've introduced chaos into something, you're you're not guaranteed what
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Speaker 2: is going to happen. So again, it comes down to
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Speaker 2: the secondary holding up there end of the bargain. But
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Speaker 2: the goal, the main goal is going to be stopping
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Speaker 2: the run and then making Oregon become one dimensional, and
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Speaker 2: if you can do that, then that makes any of
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Speaker 2: the pressure even You have a better idea of what
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Speaker 2: you're doing when you're blitzing, if you know that they're
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Speaker 2: going to be throwing the ball and the effectiveness of it.
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Speaker 4: One of the other things that.
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Speaker 2: Jordan Hancock maybe talked about is that like everybody knows
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Speaker 2: everybody's job now, so they are a more well rounded
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Speaker 2: defense in terms of understanding why they're doing certain things,
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Speaker 2: and that has increased their ability to do things faster.
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Speaker 2: So this is also a faster defense than what we
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Speaker 2: saw against Oregon the first time around.
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Speaker 1: And it should presumably be a different Denzel Burt than
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Speaker 1: we saw the first time at Oregon. He had probably
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Speaker 1: the worst game of his career, and it was just
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Speaker 1: it wasn't like he got picked on all game long.
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Speaker 1: It was just, boy, you had a couple big plays
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Speaker 1: and they all kind of seemed like he was sort
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Speaker 1: of in the same zip code. You figure that's probably
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Speaker 1: going to be a significant change. I think Jim Knowles
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Speaker 1: was asked about him, and you know, it sounds like,
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Speaker 1: you know, we have an expectation for who denzil Burke
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Speaker 1: is and what Denzel Burke is like, and it sounds like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: extremely same even after that game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it was Jordan Hancock said that
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Speaker 2: Denzel is very much looking forward to this game and
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Speaker 2: is clearly he knows what a lot of people said
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Speaker 2: about him, but also like he knows that that's not
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Speaker 2: him and that's what a lot of people think he
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Speaker 2: is and is that game, and so he's got something
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Speaker 2: to prove to a lot of people also to himself. Yes,
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Speaker 2: all corners are confident, but then when something happens like that,
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Speaker 2: you want to show yourself and anybody else that thinks
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Speaker 2: that you are not as good as you are that
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Speaker 2: you are. And you know, we kind of chatted a
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Speaker 2: little bit during one of those interviews, like, gosh, we
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Speaker 2: should probably have a camera on Denzel burg full time
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Speaker 2: when we're out there at media day, just because, as
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Speaker 2: we always say, like he's going to tell you how
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Speaker 2: it is, and he's going to say some things and
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Speaker 2: he's going to then have to go out and back
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Speaker 2: it up. And I'm not saying that's come out and
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Speaker 2: guarantee you win. But he's going to say some things
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Speaker 2: that are you know, coming from the heart, and it's
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Speaker 2: it's always interesting.
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Speaker 1: Jim Noles was not asked to guarantee anything, but he
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Speaker 1: was asked how confident he was in terms of, Okay,
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Speaker 1: you saw the issues you had against Oregon, and you
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Speaker 1: fixed stuff for all the game subsequent to that, but
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Speaker 1: you haven't faced an offense as good as Organ. And
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Speaker 1: this is sort of a related question to the earlier
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Speaker 1: question about how much of it was you played well
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Speaker 1: and the Organ played or Organ played well and you
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Speaker 1: played badly. But you know, how confident is Jim Knowles that, okay,
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Speaker 1: you it seems like it's fixed. But how how confident
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Speaker 1: are you that you know you've you flex sealed your
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Speaker 1: your your screen door. How confident are you you're going
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Speaker 1: to be able to use it as a boat?
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Speaker 2: Well, well got to find out when you put it
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Speaker 2: in the water, Tom, And you can't just put it
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Speaker 2: in the water and do nothing like you got to
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Speaker 2: hop in like we're going, in fact, drop us right
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Speaker 2: in the middle of the lake. I don't want to
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Speaker 2: test anything. Drop us from a helicopter into our flex
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Speaker 2: steel screen and see how it goes. And that's exactly
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Speaker 2: what this is gonna be. Like, it's like, yeah, we've
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Speaker 2: used three cans of flexial, so I mean they say
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Speaker 2: ones enough, but they they they are gonna find out.
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Speaker 2: And he's said he's always confident heading into a game.
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Speaker 2: I think probably since he got to Ohio State or
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Speaker 2: like or you know this year. Certainly you're always confident
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Speaker 2: that the game plan is gonna work because you have
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Speaker 2: a lot of talented players and then you know everybody there.
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Speaker 4: There really are no question marks.
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Speaker 2: And I think that that helps any kind of coordinator.
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Speaker 2: But you know, I think Organ's gonna come up with
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Speaker 2: something they're gonna do. They're not just gonna do the
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Speaker 2: same thing they did the last time. So there's that
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Speaker 2: I did ask Noel's like, is it how much of
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Speaker 2: a burden is it? How much beneficial is it that
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Speaker 2: you are playing this team for the second time. He's like,
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Speaker 2: it's both because you've seen what they've done to you,
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Speaker 2: But how do you keep that from the whole paralysis
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Speaker 2: by analysis? Like they will do this when we do this,
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Speaker 2: It's like, well they did at that time. Yeah, it
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean they're gonna do it this time.
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Speaker 1: And I remember asking Ryan Big ten media days about
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Speaker 1: theoretically playing a team more than once, and you know,
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Speaker 1: does that make it easier? Does that make it harder?
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Speaker 1: And he said, well, you know it. You've scouted them before,
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Speaker 1: so you know the personnel, but the scheme stuff is
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Speaker 1: kind of a different a different ball of wax. And
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Speaker 1: you know, I know people are at home right now thinking,
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Speaker 1: I bet the flexial question is the last one. But wait,
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Speaker 1: there's more. We got to talk about the safeties. The
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Speaker 1: safeties are obviously one of the strengths of the defense
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Speaker 1: Gymnals has talked since pretty much day one when he
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Speaker 1: got here about is being a safety driven defense. When
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Speaker 1: you have a safety driven defense and you probably have
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Speaker 1: the best safeties in the country, it makes sense that
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Speaker 1: you have the best defense in the country.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you've got those three guys Lathan, Ransom and
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Speaker 2: Joined Hancock and Klea Downs, and you've seen over the
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Speaker 2: second half of the season more attempts to get Klea
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Speaker 2: Downs around the ball. He's playing closer to the line
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Speaker 2: of scrimmage. Probably the smallest middle linebacker in Ohio State
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Speaker 2: since Brian roll I would say but you want him
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Speaker 2: around the ball because he can impact plays and he
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Speaker 2: makes everybody everybody better. I think Jim Knowls said he
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Speaker 2: makes he makes everybody right when he can make those plays.
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Speaker 2: And then you've got Jordan Hancock, who stepped in for
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Speaker 2: Lakeland Ransom once this season and played that And when
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Speaker 2: we've talked about it for a couple of years now
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Speaker 2: that when you're playing that slot, playing that nickel, you
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Speaker 2: do have to rotate to a deep safety at time.
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Speaker 2: So he's Jordan Hancock. Jordan Hancock Cock has been here
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Speaker 2: now for four years and is very comfortable doing whatever
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Speaker 2: you need. And he he has talked about how you
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Speaker 2: know his versatility like now he said it today and
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Speaker 2: a lot of people can do what he can do
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Speaker 2: and it allows the Ohio State defense to do even
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Speaker 2: more things. And he takes a ton of pride in
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Speaker 2: that he was a guy that was committed to Clemson
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Speaker 2: to play corner and Ohio State was like, would you
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Speaker 2: like to play some nickel? And He's like, I think
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Speaker 2: I would and they explained, you know this is pre Noles,
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Speaker 2: but like all of the different things that the nickel
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Speaker 2: spot requires, and like he's signed knowing that this could
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Speaker 2: be my role, and he's played it as well as
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Speaker 2: you could ever hope.
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Speaker 1: Well, earlier you talked about Caleb Downs being the smallest
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Speaker 1: middle linebacker for Ohio State in quite a while.
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Speaker 4: JT.
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Speaker 1: Molowaw was probably the biggest linebacker for Ohio State in
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Speaker 1: quite a while. And it was only for one play,
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Speaker 1: but he was asked to do something a little out
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Speaker 1: of his typical, typical job description, let's say, against Tennessee
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Speaker 1: and had some interesting stuff to say about that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was spying.
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Speaker 2: He actually spied a couple of times on Nico but
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Speaker 2: you know, dropping out of that defensive tackle spot and
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Speaker 2: then becoming out of a defensive tax spot and then
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Speaker 2: dropping back to linebacker to spy him. It's it's not easy.
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Speaker 2: And he said he's gonna need some tips from Cody
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Speaker 2: Simon on on how to do it better next time,
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Speaker 2: how to wrap up because like that's yes, J T.
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Speaker 2: Tuy Molowow is a tremendous athlete. That is a tough
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Speaker 2: ask for any defensive lineman to to spy on somebody
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Speaker 2: who is you know, it doesn't look like he's he's
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Speaker 2: a long strider in terms of Nico Maliava, but he
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Speaker 2: was also making some moves and he was joking like,
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Speaker 2: I don't think they expected and so that was a
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Speaker 2: tough did not work, did not go well. They won
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Speaker 2: the games that worked fine, but just another example of
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Speaker 2: the things that they do with him. But I do
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Speaker 2: know you see it a couple of times and people
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Speaker 2: are like, you know, just seven rushed passer, how about that?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And when he does rush the passer very effective.
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Speaker 3: He had two sacks in that game.
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Speaker 1: And you know, him trying to tackle Niko Iamliova or
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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel as they're going to have to do on
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Speaker 1: New Year's Day in a confined pocket is one thing.
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Speaker 1: Trying to tackle him when he can go any direction,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's like, you know, someone who
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Speaker 1: has just the Nintendo Nintendo controller where you can go up, down, left,
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Speaker 1: or right, and those are your choices, and versus someone
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Speaker 1: who has the modern joystick controller where it's like, would
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Speaker 1: you like to go thirty seven degrees one hundred and
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Speaker 1: forty six degrees?
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Speaker 3: Which direction would you like to go?
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Speaker 1: That's a little bit more of a challenge, but that's
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Speaker 1: going to be a challenge for them against Dylan Gabriel
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Speaker 1: as well. Dylan Gabriel. In addition to being quick, elusive
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Speaker 1: all the stuff that iam Aliava is, he's also short.
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Speaker 1: He's also hard, you know, hard to see, and that
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Speaker 1: presents maybe even an additional challenge because they've seen this,
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Speaker 1: they've seen this movie already, and you know, you had
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Speaker 1: a couple of times where you had people maybe not
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Speaker 1: playing completely assignment sound and Gabriel turned one of those
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Speaker 1: into a touchdown on the ground. That's going to be
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Speaker 1: I think they know A real crucial piece of this
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Speaker 1: is you got to be you got to do your
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Speaker 1: job to the absolute extreme best you can, but don't
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Speaker 1: try to do too much.
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Speaker 2: Well exactly, don't do too much. Do your job because
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Speaker 2: you trust everybody else to do theirs. And if you're
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Speaker 2: put in a position you are there as you know,
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Speaker 2: you might be that outlet, you might be the guy
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Speaker 2: that has to make that tackle, and if your eyes
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Speaker 2: are somewhere else, then you know you're not doing your
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Speaker 2: job and everybody else is relying on you to do
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Speaker 2: your job. So there there'll be a ton of focus
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Speaker 2: on that, I think in this game, where like, look,
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Speaker 2: this is a veteran team. You're never going to play
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Speaker 2: on a more veteran team than this. Trust your guys
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Speaker 2: to do what they're going to do it, you do
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Speaker 2: your job, just worry about your off and then watch
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Speaker 2: good things happen.
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Speaker 1: And it is a veteran team, but they're also you're
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Speaker 1: at the point of year where you're seeing some of
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Speaker 1: the younger guys take on bigger roles. One of those
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Speaker 1: younger guys who's taken on a substantially bigger role is
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Speaker 1: Kenyatta Jackson, who is really really getting more snaps at
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Speaker 1: the defensive end position. And we can talk about that
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Speaker 1: in a minute, but I did first want to let
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Speaker 1: you talk about Jim Knowles take on the penalty on
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Speaker 1: Kenyatta Jackson.
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Speaker 2: Uh, well, he did not think it was a penalty.
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Speaker 2: There's nothing else that you could do. They actually pointed
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Speaker 2: out his effort in film, like look, look how good
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Speaker 2: this effort was. And then he he was talking about
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Speaker 2: is so he's like mimicking the throw. He's like so
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Speaker 2: so up here it's it's a penalty. But if he
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Speaker 2: tucks it and gets it, it's not a penalty. So
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Speaker 2: this is the difference between roughing the passer and just
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Speaker 2: a good tackle. And there's nothing else that you could
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Speaker 2: ask him to do in that and so yeah, he
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Speaker 2: thought it was a good play, bad call. I'm going
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Speaker 2: to I wonder if you know anybody's going to alert
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Speaker 2: the Big ten that Jim Noles.
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Speaker 4: Has said this.
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Speaker 3: Heficials that's that's true.
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Speaker 4: So job VII ten. Yeah, is the ACC going to
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Speaker 4: find him?
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Speaker 1: Well, the ACC is gonna gonna be calling his game
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Speaker 1: again on New Year's Day. ACC officials out in the
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Speaker 1: Rose Bowl, I believe, so, yeah, they'll. I think it's
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Speaker 1: a different crew though, so that that is potentially good
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Speaker 1: news Jackson on the whole though, out of Jackson, in
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Speaker 1: addition to the penalty, he's You've seen him and noticed
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Speaker 1: him doing a lot of other stuff as well. This
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Speaker 1: is not an easy rotation to crack into because J T. Twey,
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Speaker 1: Molwell and Jack Sawyer have been playing really well, especially
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Speaker 1: of late. So what what has allowed King out of
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Speaker 1: Jackson to get into that rotation?
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Speaker 2: Well, just he's showing it in practicing and showing it
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Speaker 2: in games and they're seeing it, and you know, we
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Speaker 2: want everybody wants to see more of a rotation, but
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Speaker 2: you need guys that have stepped up and can handle that.
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Speaker 2: And they say he has kind of basically another starter
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Speaker 2: in there. They'd be fine with putting him in there,
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Speaker 2: and at any point you're seeing more and.
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Speaker 4: More of that. But you know, I think you go back.
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Speaker 2: To the middle of the season when there's this this
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Speaker 2: need and like this you have to rotate more, and
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Speaker 2: it didn't always happen, and then finally like what after
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Speaker 2: the Michigan Gamer, so it's like no, really, Yeah, so
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Speaker 2: they you know, Larry Johnson took that one to heart
16:12
Speaker 2: and got him more involved. But as they continue to
16:14
Speaker 2: see plays made in practice and in games, then they'll
16:17
Speaker 2: continue to play it and.
16:19
Speaker 1: You're continue to see more rotation on the interior as well.
16:22
Speaker 1: One of the guys who's in that mix now is
16:23
Speaker 1: Edric Houston, and he's someone who, as a true freshman,
16:26
Speaker 1: you really don't expect to see a true freshman getting
16:30
Speaker 1: meaningful minutes on the interior the defensive line, and he's
16:32
Speaker 1: not starting, because again, this is a very veteran defensive line,
16:36
Speaker 1: both outside and inside. But Edric Houston has some stuff
16:39
Speaker 1: that Jim Knowles looked at and went, yeah, I can
16:42
Speaker 1: work with this.
16:43
Speaker 5: Yeah.
16:43
Speaker 2: He came in and was just anytime a freshman does
16:47
Speaker 2: well comes in and does well like they're mature, and
16:50
Speaker 2: that's always one of the points is like, well he's mature.
16:52
Speaker 2: I think the larger point that Jim Knowl has talked
16:55
Speaker 2: about is he knew he was going to make mistakes
16:57
Speaker 2: and he's okay with that and he learns from them.
16:59
Speaker 2: Some freshmen they make mistakes and they just get consumed
17:02
Speaker 2: by them and it's like, oh no, whate was me?
17:05
Speaker 2: Edrick Houston doesn't seem bothered by his mistakes because he
17:08
Speaker 2: he corrects it, like he wants to make mistakes so
17:10
Speaker 2: that he knows what to do right and how to
17:11
Speaker 2: fix them. So he's kind of just exploring the position
17:15
Speaker 2: and learning from me. Because remember he's only been a
17:18
Speaker 2: defensive tackle for I don't know, six weeks.
17:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, week maybe something like that. Yeah.
17:22
Speaker 2: This season is you know, I don't know what the
17:24
Speaker 2: concept of time is anymore. But he came in as
17:26
Speaker 2: a defense man, so's he's played two different positions this
17:30
Speaker 2: year and made mistakes along the way, but is learning
17:33
Speaker 2: from them as well.
17:34
Speaker 1: There's no word that the concept of time is more
17:36
Speaker 1: flexible than on this particular morning show. One last guy
17:40
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about in terms of young guys
17:42
Speaker 1: that we can get to any questions if we have
17:43
Speaker 1: any Jermaine Matthews, because the only game he didn't play
17:48
Speaker 1: in all season was the Oregon game, and Jim Knowles
17:50
Speaker 1: was asked about him, and so was that a specific
17:54
Speaker 1: thing that you know it wasn't a good matchup? Why
17:56
Speaker 1: did he sit that game? And then is he going
17:59
Speaker 1: to sit this one as well? Or are you going
18:00
Speaker 1: to get him in the.
18:01
Speaker 2: Rotation leave Jim Nole's answer was, I don't remember why
18:04
Speaker 2: he didn't play that game, so yes, he will plan
18:06
Speaker 2: this one. They consider him a co starter as well,
18:09
Speaker 2: and you've seen that rotation build over out in the
18:12
Speaker 2: last four or five weeks where he even four or
18:13
Speaker 2: five games where he's he's actually rotating in and you'll
18:16
Speaker 2: see Davidson, Nigunos, and Denzel Burke sit for entire drives
18:20
Speaker 2: so that he can get involved. And they've always really
18:24
Speaker 2: liked him. I think he's one of Jim Nole's favorite players,
18:26
Speaker 2: just from the time he watched them Mounta in June
18:29
Speaker 2: and a summer camp as a junior or senior heading
18:32
Speaker 2: into a senior year, like working him and working him hard,
18:35
Speaker 2: and Matthews just kept responding and responding, So he's been
18:38
Speaker 2: in Ole's favorite for a while, and I think that's
18:40
Speaker 2: continued here and in the second year as a Buckeye.
18:43
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to a few questions.
18:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, Robert Howard, I missed most of Knowle's and all
18:48
Speaker 5: of everyone else. Did I miss the defensive game plan?
18:52
Speaker 3: No, Robert wants to know.
18:53
Speaker 1: Hey, I missed pretty much all of the pot of
18:55
Speaker 1: the interviews. Did did they talk about the defensive game plan?
18:58
Speaker 1: They were actually very very careful to not to talk
19:00
Speaker 1: about the defensive game plan. And this is this is
19:03
Speaker 1: one of these things where it's a little bit of
19:05
Speaker 1: a college football coach paranoia thing where it's like, what
19:10
Speaker 1: have you changed? And it's like, you can talk to
19:13
Speaker 1: us like we're third graders and tell us basically what
19:15
Speaker 1: you've changed, because you know, the rules are that they
19:19
Speaker 1: have to get the film too, and I'm pretty sure
19:21
Speaker 1: their coaches have figured out some of them, so you
19:23
Speaker 1: could you could tell us the you know, talk to
19:25
Speaker 1: me like I'm a third grader kind of change Well
19:28
Speaker 1: to me, yeah, but well.
19:30
Speaker 3: Timmy, I appreciate your quickies.
19:32
Speaker 1: However, Uh No, it's that that's just sort of no
19:37
Speaker 1: one wants to say anything that might be give any
19:40
Speaker 1: kind of a little bit of a hint at what
19:43
Speaker 1: might be happening or what they might change, and you
19:45
Speaker 1: know we've seen this is not a unique High State
19:48
Speaker 1: phenomenon by any means. Josh Hipel was asked before the
19:51
Speaker 1: first round game, you know, what are you guys going
19:53
Speaker 1: to change? And you said nothing. You're going to do
19:55
Speaker 1: exactly the same stuff we've always done. And I think
19:58
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning Dan Lanning was asked by one of the
20:00
Speaker 1: Columbus dispatch guys and about about, you know, what they
20:05
Speaker 1: might do differently in landing sort of tongue in cheek
20:07
Speaker 1: accused him of being a spy from Columbus and yeah, yeah,
20:10
Speaker 1: I was row ball er. Yeah, so you have you have.
20:14
Speaker 1: That's kind of the mindset going into a game like this,
20:17
Speaker 1: and this is this whole thing is a different mindset
20:21
Speaker 1: than previous Rose Bowls, where you know, previously they were
20:25
Speaker 1: there was always a little bit of cageniess and like,
20:27
Speaker 1: oh Chris a Love is practicing, is.
20:29
Speaker 3: He gonna play?
20:30
Speaker 4: I don't know.
20:30
Speaker 1: It's a mystery, but you know, this is this is
20:34
Speaker 1: a pure business trip. This is not you're going to
20:37
Speaker 1: go sit on the carriage at Disneyland and ride around
20:39
Speaker 1: and get waved to the parade, and you're not going
20:42
Speaker 1: to the Lowry's b Fall you were going.
20:43
Speaker 3: This is a work trip period.
20:45
Speaker 1: Full stop. So this is going to be a little
20:48
Speaker 1: bit of a different Rose Bowl from previous years.
20:51
Speaker 4: Yes, correct, Rick.
20:52
Speaker 5: Guess the game plan is to tackle all the ball carriers,
20:55
Speaker 5: cover all the receivers and not let Oregon get first
20:57
Speaker 5: downs and prevent them from scoring.
21:01
Speaker 4: Just put it out there.
21:02
Speaker 1: What if someone from Oregon's watching Tony, is that the
21:06
Speaker 1: game plan?
21:07
Speaker 2: It's game plan adjacent, Like, yes, all of those are
21:10
Speaker 2: part parts of the ingredients we talked in against the
21:14
Speaker 2: previewing the Tennessee game, how you get spread out in
21:17
Speaker 2: the importance of tackling, Like this is the same. And
21:21
Speaker 2: the playmakers that you're facing this game are much better
21:24
Speaker 2: than the playmakers you face and the last game, especially
21:26
Speaker 2: with Dylan Sampson not being part of the Tennessee game. Like,
21:29
Speaker 2: everybody that you're facing defensively in any kind of one
21:33
Speaker 2: on one situation or two on one situation, everybody you're
21:36
Speaker 2: facing is better than what you just faced against Tennessee.
21:39
Speaker 4: To a man.
21:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we talked about Dante Thornton. New's like, well,
21:43
Speaker 1: he can run deep. He's kind of like a Devin
21:45
Speaker 1: Smith kind of guy. Not quite as good as Devin Smith,
21:47
Speaker 1: but you know, then the slot guy is like, well,
21:50
Speaker 1: it's okay. Compared to squirrel white squirrel white to test
21:53
Speaker 1: Johnson three hundred yeah, I mean squirrel white head three
21:56
Speaker 1: hundred and something yards. I think on the season tes
21:59
Speaker 1: Johnson head Underdan forty nine. I think in the Big
22:02
Speaker 1: Ten Championship game. I mean that's I'll do the math
22:05
Speaker 1: for you. That's almost half of the season production production.
22:07
Speaker 3: So yeah, and you know you've got.
22:11
Speaker 1: What's his name the Texas A and m uh Texan
22:14
Speaker 1: and transfer Evan Stewart. Yeah, but I kept thinking Evan Spencer.
22:18
Speaker 1: I'm like, Nope, that's not it.
22:19
Speaker 3: That is not it.
22:20
Speaker 2: It was ten years ago, uh Evin Spencer. Tration on Holden,
22:24
Speaker 2: Gary Bryant, Terrence Ferguson like everybody.
22:27
Speaker 5: Yep, well we see more zone blitzes and sim pressures
22:32
Speaker 5: and smashup. Perhaps bracket Evan Stewart and to help burk out.
22:36
Speaker 2: You know, I don't if I don't think you need
22:38
Speaker 2: to bracket Evan Stewart. That was a one off flute
22:40
Speaker 2: type of game. I think, as Jim Neill said, you
22:43
Speaker 2: changed the picture. You just you do whatever you can
22:45
Speaker 2: to change the picture. You have to create whatever pressure,
22:47
Speaker 2: and whether that's a sim pressure, it's a zone pressure,
22:50
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be one thing or the other.
22:52
Speaker 4: It's gonna be everything.
22:53
Speaker 2: And this is a guy who has seen everything, Dylan Gabriel,
22:56
Speaker 2: So what he sees before the snap is gonna be
22:59
Speaker 2: something different than he sees during the snap. But it's
23:02
Speaker 2: also stuff that you have to be able to do.
23:03
Speaker 2: Now with this defense, they can do an awful lot
23:05
Speaker 2: and they've got three safeties that can do whatever you
23:08
Speaker 2: need and make tackles, and they're all very good tacklers.
23:11
Speaker 2: So if somebody bounces out, somebody gets outside, Gabriel gets outside,
23:15
Speaker 2: you feel pretty good about your chances. But in terms
23:18
Speaker 2: of this blitz or that blitz, you'll do what works.
23:22
Speaker 2: But they're gonna throw everything. This is gonna be a
23:25
Speaker 2: swing away type game, Yeah, for sure.
23:27
Speaker 5: Jake d is anybody else extremely confident in our ability
23:32
Speaker 5: to win this rematch? I'm not sure why, but something
23:34
Speaker 5: just feels different for this time around.
23:37
Speaker 1: So level of confidence going into this game, and ohis
23:39
Speaker 1: its ability to win the rematch.
23:41
Speaker 3: I mean, it is hard to beat a team twice
23:43
Speaker 3: in a year.
23:43
Speaker 1: You see that a lot with you know, I go
23:46
Speaker 1: back to like the twenty eleven LSU Alabama where the
23:50
Speaker 1: first game was nine to six, and then the second game,
23:53
Speaker 1: Alabama just completely dominated LSU.
23:56
Speaker 3: They never crossed midfield.
23:57
Speaker 1: Alabama kicked I think six field goals and they get
24:00
Speaker 1: five field goals in that game.
24:02
Speaker 3: And ended up winning twenty one to nothing.
24:05
Speaker 1: It's hard to beat a team twice in a year.
24:08
Speaker 1: That's something. The fact that the last impression of Ohio
24:11
Speaker 1: State was whirling death Machine is probably making people optimistic.
24:15
Speaker 1: The fact that the last impression of Oregon is Hey,
24:19
Speaker 1: a Penn State team that scored thirteen against Ohio State
24:21
Speaker 1: is scoring what forty whatever it was against Oregon, You know,
24:25
Speaker 1: that probably factors into it a little bit. You know,
24:29
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if Ohio State like cruise to
24:33
Speaker 1: this one. This is this is still probably these are
24:36
Speaker 1: two of the most talented teams in the country, and
24:38
Speaker 1: the only reason that either of them is not the
24:42
Speaker 1: current betting favorite to win the national Championship is because
24:44
Speaker 1: they have to go through whoever they have to go through.
24:48
Speaker 1: Once you go through this, whoever wins this game is
24:50
Speaker 1: going to be the current betting favorite to win the
24:52
Speaker 1: national Championship because they're probably the most talented team remaining
24:54
Speaker 1: in the field.
24:55
Speaker 4: Yeah.
24:56
Speaker 2: I've just got a text a few minutes ago from
24:58
Speaker 2: a buddy who is one of the most pessimistic people
25:01
Speaker 2: in terms of Ohio State fandom, and he's like, I
25:03
Speaker 2: think Ohio State by ten. I'm like, in the world
25:06
Speaker 2: is going on here? This is a whole new day,
25:09
Speaker 2: Like is this spring is sprung? It's like no, no,
25:12
Speaker 2: it's still just winner just started. But that Tennessee game
25:18
Speaker 2: is what people have been wanting to see, and it's
25:21
Speaker 2: such a stark contrast from the Michigan game. Then it's like, well, okay,
25:25
Speaker 2: this is who Ohio State is now. It's like, well,
25:27
Speaker 2: maybe it's just like you see Oregon dicing up Penn
25:31
Speaker 2: State and it's like that offense is still there. We
25:34
Speaker 2: watched that one day after watching them score i know,
25:37
Speaker 2: sixteen against Wisconsin, and it's like, boy, this was this
25:41
Speaker 2: Oregon offense. And then you see Penn State go through
25:43
Speaker 2: Oregon's defense and you're like, this is one game after
25:46
Speaker 2: watching Oregon's defense dominate Washington, thinking this is the best
25:49
Speaker 2: defensive line Ohio State's going to see all year, and
25:51
Speaker 2: then they were nowhere to be seen against Penn State
25:53
Speaker 2: no time. I have seen in our videos talking about
25:55
Speaker 2: the Oregon game against Penn State that the flu ran
26:00
Speaker 2: through Oregon.
26:01
Speaker 4: That day, So the Duck fans are just like, hey,
26:04
Speaker 4: just keep that in mind.
26:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was there was a flu bug going around,
26:07
Speaker 2: so that may explain some of that.
26:09
Speaker 1: And the Wisconsin game, where they also looked rough, was
26:13
Speaker 1: I think the eighth straight game that they had had
26:15
Speaker 1: to play, and they're going cross country and all that
26:17
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So you know, there's a little bit
26:20
Speaker 1: of a you can apply whatever size of asterisk do
26:22
Speaker 1: you want to on those two poor performances. They did
26:26
Speaker 1: win both of them, so you know, win your clunkers,
26:28
Speaker 1: and Organ has done that.
26:30
Speaker 5: Rick as Jordan James is a tough, physical runner who
26:33
Speaker 5: always seems to pick up positive yardage.
26:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jordan James is a tough, physical runner who always
26:39
Speaker 1: seems to pick up positive yardage.
26:40
Speaker 2: Can confirm Yeah, not unlike Dylan Sanson in that way
26:43
Speaker 2: where it's like he's rushed for one hundred and thirty
26:46
Speaker 2: yards and he's averaged six and a half yards of
26:48
Speaker 2: carrying along of twenty two. You know, it's like it's
26:51
Speaker 2: just consistent yardage, consistent game sting on schedule the entire time,
26:55
Speaker 2: and when when you're giving Dylan Gabriel like a second.
26:57
Speaker 4: And four, a third and two and you've already lost basically.
27:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, between James running hard, Noah Whittington, who's their
27:06
Speaker 1: backup running back, just being fast, he's just he's like
27:09
Speaker 1: a Curtis Samuel type to to the uh Sam Curtis
27:16
Speaker 1: Samuel and Ezekiel Elliott on the same team they were. Yeah,
27:18
Speaker 1: so you kind of kind of the same kind of
27:22
Speaker 1: duo there, Lendale White and Reggie Bush. To have a
27:25
Speaker 1: little more local example to where we'll be later in
27:27
Speaker 1: the week twenty years ago to yes, twenty years ago, Yes, yeah,
27:30
Speaker 1: believe listen the Ezekiel Elliott eighty five yards through the
27:34
Speaker 1: heart of the South. That was ten years to the
27:37
Speaker 1: day from the Rose Bowl. So January first, twenty fifteen.
27:42
Speaker 1: It time is time is all, it's all relative, Tony, Yeah,
27:48
Speaker 1: it's this is this is a between that between those
27:51
Speaker 1: guys on the ground and Dylan Gabriel and him being
27:54
Speaker 1: able to get the ball out quickly, and him being
27:56
Speaker 1: able to be a threat with his legs.
27:58
Speaker 3: There's just a lot of different things that Orgon does.
28:00
Speaker 1: And one thing they've mentioned on a couple of the
28:02
Speaker 1: broadcasts that we've watched that I don't think we've actually
28:04
Speaker 1: talked about at any of the games is he can
28:07
Speaker 1: get the ball out quickly because he doesn't necessarily have
28:09
Speaker 1: to throw with the laces. Every quarterback always wants to
28:11
Speaker 1: throw with the laces. He'll just catch it and just
28:13
Speaker 1: throw it however it is. It's just you know, it's
28:15
Speaker 1: like an infielder who can catch it and doesn't need
28:17
Speaker 1: to like regrip the ball, can just get catch it
28:19
Speaker 1: and throw it accurately and hard. That just that just
28:23
Speaker 1: saves you a split second. But that's the difference between hey,
28:28
Speaker 1: maybe get a pass rush, maybe get your arm up
28:30
Speaker 1: and then boom that balls out. How did that ball
28:31
Speaker 1: get out so fast? Well, he didn't have to regrip
28:33
Speaker 1: the football. It just boom.
28:34
Speaker 2: That's how it is watching him as a quarterback, and
28:37
Speaker 2: he exists in chaos and he's comfortable with it. And
28:40
Speaker 2: tell me if you believe, if you agree with this time,
28:43
Speaker 2: I'm watching him and I feel like he's the kind
28:46
Speaker 2: of person that would exist well in a post apocalyptic society,
28:49
Speaker 2: Like he can live underneath rubble perfectly fine. And it's like, hey,
28:53
Speaker 2: I found a love for bread. We're gonna eat like kings.
28:56
Speaker 2: Like this guy can exist amongst rubble, and and it's
29:01
Speaker 2: like he's where did you get clean clothes?
29:04
Speaker 1: Well, there's this There is a certain amount of you know,
29:08
Speaker 1: he he is the guy who's like he's the anti
29:11
Speaker 1: a team where you know, I love it when a
29:13
Speaker 1: plan comes together. It's like I love it when a
29:15
Speaker 1: plan just gets blown to hell and I just have
29:17
Speaker 1: to sort of figure it out. And he's mcver, he
29:20
Speaker 1: is mcgiver. Yes, do not hate if you see him
29:23
Speaker 1: with a paper clip and a water bubble gum in
29:25
Speaker 1: the backfield to drop those safeties because you know it's coming.
29:28
Speaker 4: Do not give that man a hockey ticket.
29:31
Speaker 5: Jordan Kappler and I only asked this one so he
29:33
Speaker 5: doesn't come after me. Kevin, can you ask Tom what
29:36
Speaker 5: it's like next standing next to greatness? Each time they
29:39
Speaker 5: do want one of these.
29:42
Speaker 3: There's no one over there.
29:42
Speaker 1: There's no one.
29:44
Speaker 3: There's no one over there. We're talking about Tony. It's
29:49
Speaker 3: almost a new year. You know what that means?
29:51
Speaker 2: Back to hitting on Kevin Jordan, will there be three
29:57
Speaker 2: years in a row of tom?
30:00
Speaker 1: This is this is our version of the Chinese calendar,
30:05
Speaker 1: the Chinese lunar calendar. Is it the year of the horse? No,
30:08
Speaker 1: you're year of the rat again? How is that possible, Larry?
30:13
Speaker 5: This should be the national championship game?
30:17
Speaker 1: Well, yes, this is quite possibly the best team that
30:23
Speaker 1: either of these teams will play. Now, I don't think
30:26
Speaker 1: that this is a field that sets up the way
30:28
Speaker 1: that the twenty twenty two Peach Bowl did, where you
30:31
Speaker 1: looked at you at TCU went beating Michigan and went, well,
30:34
Speaker 1: we're watching the national championship game. You got to win
30:37
Speaker 1: two more. That's the thing. I was sitting in the
30:40
Speaker 1: press convers and looking at the backdrop behind Jim Knowles
30:42
Speaker 1: as he was talking, and there's the Rose Bowl logo
30:44
Speaker 1: and it says college football playoff quarter final, and I'm like,
30:47
Speaker 1: that can't be right? Is that that's not right? We've
30:49
Speaker 1: we've already seen one game and it's New Year's Day,
30:53
Speaker 1: so this has to be a semi right. No, you
30:55
Speaker 1: have to win three more games? This is this is like, Okay,
31:00
Speaker 1: you got through Tennessee. Now you're where you are where
31:05
Speaker 1: you used to be a couple of years ago going
31:08
Speaker 1: into the Big Ten championshieam, We're okay. You got to
31:10
Speaker 1: win that one to get in, and then you got
31:12
Speaker 1: to win two more so, and the teams that are coming,
31:15
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to spoil a surprise, but
31:17
Speaker 1: I don't think Boise State is going to beat Penn State,
31:20
Speaker 1: and I don't think Arizona State's going to beat Texas.
31:23
Speaker 1: So if you get through Oregon, or if Oregon gets
31:25
Speaker 1: through Ohio State, then you got to beat Texas and
31:28
Speaker 1: then you got to beat Penn State or Notre Dame
31:31
Speaker 1: or Georgia on the other side of the bracket.
31:33
Speaker 3: And there are no easy games.
31:35
Speaker 1: Whoever wins the national championship this year is going to
31:37
Speaker 1: have the best resume of any team to ever play
31:39
Speaker 1: the sport of college football, almost unquestionably.
31:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, even if it's Boise State, it won't.
31:45
Speaker 1: Be Boise State.
31:45
Speaker 3: Ron Howard narrator voice, it won't be Boise State.
31:48
Speaker 4: Brent Peacock.
31:49
Speaker 5: We need to be focused, we need to be motivated
31:52
Speaker 5: to win also not to not lose, and we need
31:56
Speaker 5: Will Howard to be relaxed.
31:58
Speaker 3: Well.
31:58
Speaker 1: I think the mind set around the Ohio State program
32:01
Speaker 1: is very much like they've seen what playing not to
32:04
Speaker 1: lose gets you, and they've seen I mean, they cut
32:06
Speaker 1: it loose last week and that works just fine, and
32:10
Speaker 1: I suspect that you will see them cut it loose again.
32:13
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got you have the talent you had,
32:16
Speaker 1: you know you you can't be reckless with it. You're
32:18
Speaker 1: not going to be in cover zero every snap, but
32:23
Speaker 1: you're gonna be jive. Knowls has been. He's mixed coverages
32:26
Speaker 1: up a ton over the last six weeks or so
32:28
Speaker 1: of the season, and.
32:30
Speaker 3: He's been.
32:32
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's not quite consistently aggressive, but
32:35
Speaker 1: he's been strategically aggressive, strategically very aggressive with stuff and
32:38
Speaker 1: bringing a lot of pressure. It's gonna be a different
32:40
Speaker 1: defense than what Dylan Gabriel and the Ducks saw the
32:42
Speaker 1: first time in Eugene. It's gonna be a different Oregon
32:46
Speaker 1: offense than it was, and it's gonna be different organ defense.
32:49
Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to talk about the organ the
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Speaker 1: Ohist offense on tomorrow show and the Oregon defense. But
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Speaker 1: Ohio State hasn't played againt shortan bird yet he missed
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Speaker 1: the first game. I mean, there's that's a big difference
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Speaker 1: for the side of the ball. Even though it's the
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Speaker 1: same it's the same team, but it's not the same team,
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Speaker 1: and it's going to be you know, when you get
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Speaker 1: think about how different Ohio State is now than they
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Speaker 1: were on October eleventh or October twelfth. Organ's that different
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Speaker 1: to Organs. Organs made some significant changes there as well.
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Speaker 5: Last one I have in the queue from Geiger Lee,
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Speaker 5: it appeared to me in the last game the punt
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Speaker 5: coverage team was aggressively going for the block.
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Speaker 4: If I'm right, I'm all for it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were. I mean, there were a couple of
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Speaker 1: times that I thought Inky Jones or might get there.
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Speaker 1: Thirty two walk on out of Stupenville. He looked it
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Speaker 1: looked like they were coming pretty hard after Tennessee. That
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Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to come hard after Oregon.
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Speaker 1: A lot of times that's a what did you see
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Speaker 1: on film and what you know? There might be something
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Speaker 1: about the way Tennessee set up that is not the
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Speaker 1: same as the way Organ set up. The other thing
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Speaker 1: you gotta be careful about is Dan Lenning has done
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Speaker 1: a on side kick in the middle of a game
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Speaker 1: at a time when you would never think to do
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Speaker 1: an on sidekick other than the field position piece of that.
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Speaker 1: So if you're coming real hard, who's to say Terrence
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Speaker 1: Ferguson doesn't leak out and you throw a little pass
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Speaker 1: and it turns you know, not just the first down,
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Speaker 1: but it turns into a sixty yard play.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why just be sound, don't know. That was
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Speaker 2: one of my questions, like to Knowle's like, do you
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Speaker 2: or even JT or somebody like, is this a new
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Speaker 2: new game plan in terms of like what you're what
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Speaker 2: you're seeing, what you're studying. Because you don't want to
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Speaker 2: come in here with too many preconceived notions. You want
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Speaker 2: to you want to react, and you want to stay disciplined.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's the message.
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Speaker 3: Well, the message to you will be hit the thumbs up.
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Speaker 1: We will be back here on Saturday for interviews with
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Speaker 1: the Ohio State offense side of the ball, and then
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Speaker 1: have we will be out in California on the twenty ninth.
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Speaker 1: I can't believe we're already already almost There is going
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Speaker 1: to be a busy, busy, busy few days out there,
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Speaker 1: lots of stuff to talk about. We'll get a chance
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Speaker 1: to watch some practice out there, We'll get a chance
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Speaker 1: to do some interviews out there. We'll have a full
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Speaker 1: media day for the first time, and it feels like forever.
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Speaker 1: At at some of these bowl games, get a chance
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Speaker 1: to talk to those Those are really cool because we
35:24
Speaker 1: get a chance to talk to lots of guys who
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Speaker 1: don't normally get to talk to. Plus you know, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Dyllan Gabriel. Sure, we'll talk to you know,
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Speaker 1: all the all of the organ people will talk to
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Speaker 1: you know, all the Ohios Dee people you're expecting us
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Speaker 1: to talk to, but also some of the younger guys
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Speaker 1: as well. Sometimes you get some cool different content out
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Speaker 1: of that. And then practice and then and then there's
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Speaker 1: a football game of some consequence. To start your twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five off right, Well, we'll see if it's off right.
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Speaker 3: We'll start your twenty twenty five off. We'll see if
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Speaker 3: it's right. We're left.
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Speaker 1: We we'll find out together on New Year's Day, but
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Speaker 1: you can find out right now what's going on at
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Speaker 1: Bucky Huddle. That'll do it for today. Thank you, guys
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Speaker 1: off for joining us every great day. We'll talk to
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