Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / What has changed in Venezuela since Trump ousted Maduro_
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- 0:04Speaker 1: We want peace, liberty, and justice for the great people
- 0:07Speaker 1: of Venezuela. We can't take a chance that somebody else
- 0:11Speaker 1: takes over Venezuela that doesn't have the good of the
- 0:14Speaker 1: Venezuela and people in mind. We're going to stay until
- 0:17Speaker 1: such time as we're going to run it, essentially until
- 0:19Speaker 1: such time as a proper transition can take.
- 0:23Speaker 2: That was President Trump on the day US military force
- 0:25Speaker 2: has captured the former Venezuelan leader, Nicholas Maduro three months ago.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Maduro had been in power since twenty thirteen, and at
- 0:32Speaker 2: the time was serving his third term, despite widely held
- 0:35Speaker 2: doubts about the validity of the most recent election. He
- 0:39Speaker 2: and his wife have both pleaded not guilty to drug
- 0:41Speaker 2: related charges. They're being held separately at a federal detention
- 0:45Speaker 2: center in Brooklyn, New York. No trial date has been set.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Maduro's vice president, Delta Rodriguez, has taken over as Venezuela's
- 0:51Speaker 2: acting leader. President Trump said last month she was quote
- 0:54Speaker 2: doing a great job, and on Wednesday he said the
- 0:56Speaker 2: US and Venezuela were working incredibly well together. Is National
- 1:00Speaker 2: correspondent Lilia Luciano joins US, now you were in Venezuela
- 1:04Speaker 2: two months after Maduro's removal, and you've been covering this
- 1:07Speaker 2: very closely. What did you see what has changed?
- 1:10Speaker 3: Lindsay? I think January third, when you're in Venezuela is
- 1:14Speaker 3: talked about it to the degree that we would talk about,
- 1:18Speaker 3: you know, big milestones or big holidays in the US,
- 1:21Speaker 3: depending on who you ask. For some the people who
- 1:23Speaker 3: support Maludu is a tragedy. For others, the opposition people,
- 1:27Speaker 3: it's a big celebration, it's a big day. There was
- 1:29Speaker 3: a before and after. Immediately after January third, there was
- 1:33Speaker 3: a tripling of the repression. People were truly afraid of
- 1:37Speaker 3: the figures of the regime. You had the paramilitary groups
- 1:40Speaker 3: that were taking people's cell phones. There was a lot
- 1:41Speaker 3: of fear, but that has since calmed down greatly. Right now,
- 1:47Speaker 3: what I saw a month ago when I was in
- 1:49Speaker 3: Venezuela walking around Garakaz is a place that's still struggling
- 1:53Speaker 3: with incredible inflation. Their systems are still collapsed. I mean,
- 1:58Speaker 3: you're not yet seeing the money that is coming in
- 2:01Speaker 3: from that oil sector, from those US investments, the billions
- 2:04Speaker 3: of dollars. You're not seeing it in people's everyday lives.
- 2:07Speaker 3: But there is this sense, as I mentioned when I
- 2:09Speaker 3: was there, of just optimism of trust or at least
- 2:13Speaker 3: of patients from all sides. The Chavistas, the people who
- 2:17Speaker 3: support Maluu kept telling me, look, we think that he
- 2:19Speaker 3: might still come back. He could be tried and declared
- 2:23Speaker 3: innocent in the United States and come back to a rule.
- 2:26Speaker 3: The people of the opposition are saying, kind of, we
- 2:30Speaker 3: understand that it couldn't be day to night. Suddenly the
- 2:33Speaker 3: opposition is going to rise to power. As you mentioned,
- 2:35Speaker 3: that election was not just challenged all of the international observers.
- 2:39Speaker 3: I was there covering that election, and I remember the
- 2:41Speaker 3: international observers running away from the hotel before giving the results,
- 2:46Speaker 3: recognizing not just irregularities, but really that it was the
- 2:51Speaker 3: opposition who won.
- 2:52Speaker 4: Later on they showed the evidence.
- 2:54Speaker 3: Most of the global community recognized that Maludo lost that election.
- 2:58Speaker 2: Let's play some of your reporting from twenty twenty four.
- 3:03Speaker 4: Opposition leader Mariacorina Machallo was banned by the government from
- 3:06Speaker 4: running for president earlier this year, and she says it
- 3:10Speaker 4: was her proxy presidential candidate in Mundo Gonzales, who, according
- 3:14Speaker 4: to their latest tallies, was ahead by forty points s.
- 3:18Speaker 3: How do you describe this ressaut somewhere afic. It's a
- 3:23Speaker 3: rotesque violation of.
- 3:26Speaker 4: A popular and everybody knows.
- 3:29Speaker 3: So it's been very dissonant for the people who support
- 3:31Speaker 3: the opposition, for the seventy percent of Venezuelans who voted
- 3:34Speaker 3: and elected at Mundo Sales Ruta, to see that that
- 3:38Speaker 3: day happened, that Maluda is no longer in power, that
- 3:41Speaker 3: he's in prison, but that his number two is still
- 3:44Speaker 3: running the country. The thing with the opposition and what
- 3:48Speaker 3: Mariakurina Machello is doing now is preparing for an eventual
- 3:52Speaker 3: process of democracy. She met with Marco Rubio this week,
- 3:56Speaker 3: with our Secretary of State Mark Rubio. He is it
- 3:59Speaker 3: seems giving her a sense of we are still supporting you,
- 4:02Speaker 3: potentially asking for patients. We don't know the exact details
- 4:05Speaker 3: that I've been trying to find out of exactly what
- 4:08Speaker 3: was discussed, but she has been saying to US oil companies,
- 4:13Speaker 3: inviting them to invest in Venezuela and really striking the
- 4:15Speaker 3: difference between what is happening now and the future that
- 4:19Speaker 3: she promises. But she's not in Venezuela yet. The opposition
- 4:23Speaker 3: there at least the majority of the political prisoners have
- 4:26Speaker 3: been released. They're perhaps quietly organizing, but they're organizing under
- 4:33Speaker 3: these structures of power of the regime that had oppress
- 4:35Speaker 3: them for decades. So it's a very different situation to
- 4:40Speaker 3: anything that I've covered and that has happened in many countries. Importantly,
- 4:45Speaker 3: it's very different from Iran. There's no boots on the ground,
- 4:48Speaker 3: there's pressure, there's diplomatic pressure. Now the embassy's open, there's
- 4:52Speaker 3: diplomatic relations that have been restored. But the United States
- 4:56Speaker 3: didn't you know, civilians didn't die. It wasn't an Asian
- 5:00Speaker 3: it was an extraction of Nicolas Mo keep his post, okay, absolutely, Luciena,
- 5:04Speaker 3: thank you,