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Mac & Bone Show - Adam Gold Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:14
  Speaker 1: The craziest thing, Bone, about what has just happened here
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: on the Mac and Bone show is that the text line,
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: not all, not even the majority.
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: But 30% or so responding to the Chris Sims, Wussy Cats,
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: Yo-Ho-Ho pirate routine, about 30% of them are saying, oh,
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: he wasn't telling any lies.
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: We deserve that one. And I don't think we're saying
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: he was lying.
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: Like, he was putting us down for all the horrible
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: stuff that we did on that football field. It's just
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: that he hated being picked on the week before. Now,
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's a tough guy. Like Bagel
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: Guy Bone, of course.
• 0:53
  Speaker 3: You can name off the people that enjoyed that without
• 0:56
  Speaker 3: even looking at the text line.
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: And Bagel Guy is one of them.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: So that's some A-plus trolling right there.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: I think Bebop would even like that. He did. But
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: here's the thing, though. He's like three texts below you.
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: If you are a troller, you have to be able
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: to take the trolling. I can't say it any simpler
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: than that. You can't cry victim the week before and
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: then be a badass. Because now it's on. You will
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: be trolled constantly now. Or at least you should be.
• 1:23
  Speaker 3: There's a rule in life that you can't be soft
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: and then call somebody a wussy cat and use those
• 1:28
  Speaker 3: type of terms the next week. You don't call a
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: grown man a wussy cat. It's something you don't do.
• 1:33
  Speaker 3: We're also getting a lot of this.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: He is angry still that Al Wallace.
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: Messed up his ruptured screen. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe there's something to that. We can't say it, though,
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: can we? No, no, there's former players questioning that, too.
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: All right, let's just.
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: Leave it at that, though. Let's leave it at that.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: All right. Anyway, speaking of players, that's the word I
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: think of when we bring in our next guest, baby.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: Just a player. Adam Gold is joining us.
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: 99.9 The Fan in Raleigh here in Charlotte. You can
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: listen to him most weeknights at 7 o'clock. And Goldie
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: is here, I'm sure, to chime in. on the Panther debacle,
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: among many other things. What's up, Goldie? How you doing, brother?
• 2:19
  Speaker 4: I am doing well. Who has the thinnest skin? Chris Sims,
• 2:26
  Speaker 4: Pat McAfee, or Stephen A. Smith?
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: The answer is yes. That is a great question.
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, McAfee's thin skin will appear next segment on the show.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: So it's interesting you bring that up. I'm going to
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: go McAfee in the moment, yes.
• 2:42
  Speaker 4: Did you see the video... That he is all like,
• 2:47
  Speaker 4: you know, underwear and a bunch about.
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: It's so bland from the Utah students.
• 2:52
  Speaker 4: It's nothing.
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 2:55
  Speaker 4: He felt uncomfortable at you. Are you joking?
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: I thought he might get assassinated off that video. And
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: what in the world?
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: We got to play this for y'all coming up next
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: segment of what he said, because it was unbelievable.
• 3:09
  Speaker 3: You think that a guy that makes that much money
• 3:11
  Speaker 3: is involved in as many things as he wants to do,
• 3:13
  Speaker 3: controls all of ESPN, would not really care what a
• 3:18
  Speaker 3: bunch of Utah nerds have to say about him.
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: But here we say seriously.
• 3:23
  Speaker 4: Was he most offended by the keep your shirt on?
• 3:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, if they said that about me, I would understand.
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why McAfee's like, I'm fit. I actually look
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: good with my shirt off.
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. I don't get it.
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to let y'all hear what he said
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: on his show yesterday, because it is crazy.
• 3:40
  Speaker 4: But.
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: Also crazy was the Panthers' performance that we did not
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: see come in Goldie. I mean, how much does that
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: worry you that, man, maybe this team has not made
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: the strides and the growth that we.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: Thought they did?
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  Speaker 1: Or do you just view it as just a crap
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  Speaker 1: game and flush it like they've been saying?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to be prisoner of the moment about it.
• 4:03
  Speaker 4: It all depends on whether or not we have assigned
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  Speaker 4: meaning to to the previous two weeks where, all right,
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  Speaker 4: this is a team that's basically now going to run
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  Speaker 4: roughshod on the rest of the league. And I didn't.
• 4:19
  Speaker 4: I still think that they were, you know, a 9
• 4:22
  Speaker 4: or 10 win team. And that doesn't change. And they
• 4:27
  Speaker 4: had a bad game against a capable team. And let's
• 4:31
  Speaker 4: be perfectly honest. The mistakes that they made early, the
• 4:37
  Speaker 4: muffed punts, then the strip sack return for a touchdown
• 4:43
  Speaker 4: had them in a spot where they were behind it.
• 4:46
  Speaker 4: Then Bryce completes, I mean, a gorgeous pass to Waller
• 4:50
  Speaker 4: for the touchdown. And then they can't block the guy
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  Speaker 4: up the middle. And all of a sudden, so rather
• 4:56
  Speaker 4: than pick up seven points, they'd pick up four. And
• 5:01
  Speaker 4: so instead of being down, it would have been 17, what? 17, seven. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's now 19-6. Unbelievable. So right there, then you throw
• 5:15
  Speaker 4: the interception. I actually haven't heard whether or not... I mean,
• 5:20
  Speaker 4: that pass was so bad, part of me thinks that
• 5:24
  Speaker 4: it was a bad route or guys trying to read
• 5:27
  Speaker 4: off each other and they just individually made different reads.
• 5:32
  Speaker 4: Because the pass was... I don't know who that was to.
• 5:35
  Speaker 4: I really don't. Seriously. So... After that, I think the
• 5:39
  Speaker 4: game was gone, and I don't really put anything into it.
• 5:43
  Speaker 4: It was just one of those things. But look, on
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  Speaker 4: the back-to-back sacks, we've been saying, at least I have,
• 5:50
  Speaker 4: all year long, I don't trust the offensive line. It's
• 5:53
  Speaker 4: amazing that they were this good without a good offensive line.
• 5:56
  Speaker 4: They're not good up the middle. Rasheed Walker has not
• 5:59
  Speaker 4: been good. He has not been good at left tackle.
• 6:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it was a plant by Ike
• 6:06
  Speaker 4: Ikuonu to get paid. But Walker has not been good.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's been brutal.
• 6:12
  Speaker 3: Do you think eventually they're going to have to make
• 6:14
  Speaker 3: a move at defensive coordinator?
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  Speaker 4: No. No, I like Averro. I mean, is he Vic Fangio?
• 6:24
  Speaker 4: Probably not. But there's a reason why he is one
• 6:30
  Speaker 4: of those under-the-radar head coaching candidates. I think he has
• 6:34
  Speaker 4: got a great rep around the league. I don't think
• 6:36
  Speaker 4: he's the problem. Uh, to me, the pro I mean, honestly,
• 6:40
  Speaker 4: there were 14 to 16 defensive points put on the board, um, early.
• 6:46
  Speaker 4: I just think you get, they, they haven't been able
• 6:48
  Speaker 4: to stop the run forever. So, I mean, Vero is
• 6:52
  Speaker 4: not the first guy that, uh, hasn't been able to
• 6:55
  Speaker 4: stop the run. Uh, like I said, it's against the, uh,
• 7:00
  Speaker 4: the bears and it was made worse by Caleb Williams, uh,
• 7:04
  Speaker 4: going nuts. They couldn't stop Swift either. Um, the, I'm
• 7:10
  Speaker 4: not a hundred percent sure they've got elite defensive personnel.
• 7:15
  Speaker 4: I think there's only so much you can do. Lloyd
• 7:17
  Speaker 4: is great. Uh, I don't think Derrick Brown had his
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  Speaker 4: best game this past weekend. Uh, but they really couldn't
• 7:23
  Speaker 4: stop Bucky Irving. Um, and, but they haven't been able
• 7:26
  Speaker 4: to stop the run in a while. Um, I think they,
• 7:30
  Speaker 4: you know, not having Phillips, not, uh, certainly hurt i
• 7:34
  Speaker 4: don't know that it hurts the run game but it
• 7:35
  Speaker 4: just hurts your own world defense.
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: Definitely i think he's the best run playing edge not
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: to mention the corners right um we're targeted we're targeted
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  Speaker 1: and you lose two great tackling corners so and nick
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: scorton nick scorton's a great run defender i mean i
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: know that's old news oh man.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of personnel issues they have.
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: Okay let's uh um Mack Gold. What the hell am
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: I talking about? Adam Gold is with us here on
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: the Mack.
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  Speaker 4: I remind you of an old you.
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: A hairless me. Adam Gold, apparently.
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: All right. Adam Gold is with us. Let's talk about
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: the big news in Raleigh. Dave Doran fired after the
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: Stanford loss. Now Philip Rivers is seen as this hot candidate.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about the firing being done in season?
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  Speaker 1: And then, and Rivers as a candidate.
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  Speaker 4: I think the firing, even though it's out of character
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  Speaker 4: for state, I don't know, can't remember them ever doing
• 8:34
  Speaker 4: it since I've been here. I think it had to
• 8:37
  Speaker 4: happen just because it was too toxic. And it's one
• 8:42
  Speaker 4: of those things that, I mean, they could have let
• 8:45
  Speaker 4: it go to the end of the year. Wouldn't have
• 8:47
  Speaker 4: really impacted anything significant, but it's one of those things
• 8:52
  Speaker 4: where And I've said this before. I kind of wish
• 8:56
  Speaker 4: that Dave would have retired like a couple of years ago.
• 9:01
  Speaker 4: You know, I keep saying that there's two different parallel conversations.
• 9:07
  Speaker 4: There's the conversation about the program, which I think is outstanding.
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  Speaker 4: And then there's the conversation about why can't Dave get
• 9:16
  Speaker 4: the most out of any individual season? Why is there
• 9:20
  Speaker 4: always meat left on the bones? for a particular season.
• 9:26
  Speaker 4: And for instance, this year, look, there's no business losing
• 9:30
  Speaker 4: to Stanford if you're NC State, none, but they did.
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: The way you lost to Vanderbilt, it's really unacceptable. So
• 9:42
  Speaker 4: what are they, three and four? I mean, at the
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: very least, they should be Four and three, if you
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: say they beat Vanderbilt, but maybe don't beat Louisville. So,
• 9:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, at the very least, they should be four
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: and three. but probably five and two. And we're not
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: having this conversation, right? Because the program has been so
• 10:06
  Speaker 4: good and so consistent. State fans will argue with me
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  Speaker 4: all day long. You can't find a 10 year run
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: before this year that has a better outcome than over
• 10:18
  Speaker 4: a 10 year period. You can't find it. Certainly not
• 10:21
  Speaker 4: with one coach. Doran has really laid the foundation for
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: somebody else to take it to the next step. In
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: some ways, he's like David Cutcliffe at Duke. And that
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: at the end, it became apparent that David couldn't get
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: them to the next step if they wanted to take
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: another step. And they obviously did because that's what success does.
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: It makes you want more success. Dorn had basically cranked
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: out eight win seasons over and over and over and
• 10:51
  Speaker 4: over and over again. Sometimes there was a nine. Sometimes
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: there was a seven. There was an occasional bad. But
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: that's basically what they had become. And now you want more.
• 10:59
  Speaker 4: And I get it. Totally get it. Dave couldn't do that.
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: I wish he had retired a couple of years ago
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: and let somebody else. Then he'd be a hero. and
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: now he's just another fired coach. Although I give him
• 11:11
  Speaker 4: a lot of credit. Today he's going to do a
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: Zoom at 4 o'clock.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: Much credit to him for that. That's awesome.
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: What do you think of him talking before Boo talks?
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: What's that say about the future of Boo as the
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: AD at NC State?
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: I hadn't really thought about it in those terms. I'm
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: not sure NC State has had– I like Boo personally.
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: I really do. I'm not sure they have had very
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: many strong ADs since I've been here. I mean, Lee
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: Fowler was fine. And I mean, state fans probably hate him,
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: but he's fine. But I wouldn't call him a strong voice.
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: You know, I thought North Carolina had, even though one
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: of them was Dick Bedore, he was more of a
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: money guy. than anything else. I think Bubba Cunningham was
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: an outstanding director of athletics. Uh, but these things, these
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: programs now are run by the boosters. And I think
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: the boosters are running NC state, uh, just like the
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: boosters are running UNC. Um, That's just the way it's gone.
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: The money is running these programs.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: And they always had power, but I'll be damned, they've
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: never had this sort of power where they need them
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: constantly to get players. Goldie, you are the man, brother.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: You brought it, baby. We appreciate you, man.
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: You got it. I'm going to go take my shirt off.
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: There you go, baby. I'm going to put mine on.
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: Please do. Thank you.
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, nice. That's a vision I will have next.
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. And you know what, Bo?
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: Put your pants on, too, while you're at it. What's
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: going on with you today? I will in time.
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: Go put your eagle costume on.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: All right, Goldie. Goldie, I have a pirate costume, but I.
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: I know you do.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: I can't use it yet. One of these games, we'll
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: beat Baker again.
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: We're the village people.
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: I don't really know what to do for Thursday. Just
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: a big old piece of cheese, I guess.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: We should go out Saturday night, Bone, and just dress
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: up in all your different costumes as a group, man.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: Make use of them. I've got more than you know.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: All right, Goldie. Thank you, brother. Later, fellas.