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Denise Killian: Welcome to The GrowthPro Edge.
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We're here to help scale your business, build stronger teams,
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Claudine Ogilvie : and sharpen your leadership skills
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Denise Killian: Hello, and welcome to The GrowthPro Edge.
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I'm Denise Killian with The GrowthPro Group.
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Today, we're going to be talking about the supply chain and how it is impacting
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your business and your day-to-day operations, and certainly causing some
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problems for some future planning as well.
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So we're gonna be joined by Claudine Ogilvie with HivePix to talk
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about some solutions of what you can control with the supply chain
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and how it impacts your business.
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So let's get started
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Claudine, hello and welcome to the GrowthPro Edge.
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We're thrilled to have you
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Claudine Ogilvie : Thanks, Denise.
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Uh, thank you very much for having me
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Denise Killian: Uh, so listen, we're gonna have a lot of conversation
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about this existential threat I think that so many companies and
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businesses are facing right now.
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But before we dig into that, first introduce yourself and explain
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to people why you're the person I wanted to talk to about this issue
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Claudine Ogilvie : Yeah, sure.
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Uh, so I'm, uh, Claudine Ogilvie.
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I'm co-founder and CEO of Hivepix.
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Um, uh, we, we, uh, are a, data, uh, exchange platform.
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Uh, we, uh, exchange product data and supply chain data across supply chain
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partners, so suppliers, distributors, companies, customers on the other end.
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Um, we're a little bit like the best bits of a master data management supply chain
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portal and PIM all wrapped into one.
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Uh, thanks to AI, all these things are so much better and more efficient
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now, so that's super exciting.
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Um, my background is, um, mostly tech.
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I was CIO for large listed organizations here in Australia.
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I now split my time between Australia and the US.
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Um, I've lived and breathed this problem, uh, on a few different levels.
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I also have a co-founder called Melissa Hayes, and she have l- has
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lived and breathed, uh, the, these problem statements, um, as a, a, a
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chief marketing officer for, also for consumer industrial markets, um,
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uh, uh, uh, listed organizations.
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Um, so she's lived and breathed it from the people who are trying,
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trying to do something valuable, um, with this data, uh, on the inside.
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So between the two of us, um, we have an, an enormous passion for, uh,
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data, supply chain, AI and, um, and, uh, yeah, really looking forward to
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helping some companies unlock their data
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Denise Killian: There we go.
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So, um, my first question is, there are so many issues that businesses
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across the globe are facing.
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Part of it is because we're so interconnected, uh, in our business
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world, but another part of it is a lot of issues that no business has control over.
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So what would you say are the top threats for the supply
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chain that impact businesses?
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Claudine Ogilvie : Oh my goodness.
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Um, there are so many, and I- but I think the ones that we are seeing are companies,
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uh, grapple with, um, the most right now.
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And, and n- number one is the one everyone's talking about.
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It is no surprise it's AI and how fast that is moving.
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Uh, it is, um, many different types of AI.
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Uh, you know, we've gone from, uh, traditional AI to generative AI.
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Now it's, um, uh, you know, agentic AI and, and who knows what'll happen, uh, you
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know, over the next few months/next year.
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And I think a lot of companies are just trying to keep up.
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Um, it is not just another tool.
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It is transforming businesses and their supply chains.
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It is completely, um, uh, you know… It's a massive upheaval, right?
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Uh, and we can come back to this one and what it means and, uh, for,
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uh, small and large organizations alike who also have to rely on
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their data to make AI work for them.
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And, and it's the same thing when you're dealing with supply chain partners, right?
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Uh, number two, I, I have to say, uh, it wasn't the case a few months ago,
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but it is very much, uh, the fuel price hikes, um, that has caused a little
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bit of turmoil, to say the least.
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Uh, and, and that can be felt across, um, supply chains.
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Um, uh, you know, you, you can really feel it in the pricing in, um, but also
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sort of product availability, uh- So this is really driving when we've got
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clients who have picked up the phone to me and gone, "I know we were going
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to sort of onboard in a few weeks time, but can we do it on Monday?"
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And I'll be like, "Okay." You know, um, we, we can absolutely do that.
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Uh, and, um, and the reason for this is, you know, the, the, the impact is now.
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It's not being felt, you know, over the next few weeks or months, it's, it's
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now, and it's… Actually, I'm, I wa- it surprised me how quickly it was… it's
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been translating through supply chains, through availability, through pricing.
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Um, uh, there's that piece.
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And I think the third big piece is, um, I'm gonna say sort of geopolitical shifts.
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Um, and, you know, there's sort of like a, um, a, a great sort of call it the
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great divide, um, globally whereby, um, for, uh, for, for many reasons you have,
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uh, organizations who, um, uh, don't want to source from certain countries.
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Uh, y- you know, and that's also being reinforced by, uh, measures t- like
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tariff measures, so that's also being reinforced by, by pricing measures.
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Whether or not you buy into those geopolitical pressures,
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economically you're starting to see, um, these mechanisms sort
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of flow through supply chains.
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And so it's k- There, there are these shifts that are difficult
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to ignore commercially now.
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Um, and, uh, and that is impacting things like, um, dual sourcing strategies
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that supply, uh, chains and, and companies have to sort of mitigate
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disruption, you know, where, you know, I might have a preferred supplier or
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two maybe, and hence dual sourcing.
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But, but actually you need, um, more visibility of your supply chain,
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um, to give you more optionality to understand what's out there.
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Because I think the disruptions are coming in fast and, and sometimes
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they're not always predictable.
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Um, so having that visibility can really have, give you a
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bit of a competitive edge.
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So those are, um, I think the three areas, um, that I'm seeing being
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the most disruptive, at least with the companies that I'm talking to.
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Denise Killian: Yeah, absolutely.
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And, you know, the unfortunate thing is that two of those three, there's not
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a thing that any company can do about to change it- Well … to stop it, to
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lower prices, to end tariffs, right?
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That there's not anything- Yeah … that one company can really do to impact that.
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But there are some tools that you can employ and some strategies
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that you can employ to help mitigate some of those impacts.
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So I wanna come back to AEI, or AEI, AI, uh, in just a minute because I think
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that's a huge discussion that is, can be overwhelming for so many companies.
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That I'm sure we know it's out there, but how do we really use it the best,
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and what's right for us, and how do you, how do you make it worth your while?
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Um, but all of it kind of comes down to data.
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And no AI program, no strategy is gonna work unless you have the right data
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and know how to read it So my first question really under that umbrella
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is what are the, the data points that people should be paying attention to when
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they're looking at their supply chain?
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Claudine Ogilvie : Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I- I also just wanted to touch on the fact that you- you're absolutely right.
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You can't, uh, control what happens to you as an organization and these
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big, uh, macro trends, um, yeah, you can't do much about them, but you
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can control what you do about them.
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Um, and, uh, and that's certainly where, where I'm coming from.
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Um, so a- AI, I mean, it… yeah, it's huge, it's massive.
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Um, the-- it can be a massive unlock even if you don't have a lot of resources,
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but it can be massively overwhelming.
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It is.
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So, um, sometimes it's a case of, um, uh, small steps.
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Um, we're finding, uh, even for enterprise, so it's not just say the,
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the mid-market or the small companies, it's also really large enterprise
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who have massive legacy systems.
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Um, you know, it could be systems fragmentation, you know, over the years.
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Um, you know, that one critical system that you haven't been able to upgrade, um,
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because it is so critical and it's just so hard to, to sort of get round to that.
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Um, so I, uh, there are very few organizations that, that I know that
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don't have any of that, um, big and small.
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Uh, and, uh, and sort of getting-- wrapping your arms around that
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data can be, can be, can be huge.
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Um, so really, I, I think for a start it's about how do you unify your data,
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how you get it all together and, um, I think traditionally you've had,
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uh, tools like EDIs or APIs that help integrate your systems, and they sound
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great, um, but they're one-to-one.
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They can be really expensive.
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Um, if you're a large organization, you probably need a small team to help manage,
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you know, uh, get that data in and out.
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Every time there's an update you need to, you know, check your EDI and, you know,
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I… So it can be really burdensome.
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Uh, the, uh… Which is why I think a lot of organizations, big and small,
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we're talking the big multinationals, but as well as, you know, your, your, your
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tiny organization, they still send Excel spreadsheets and emails and attachments to
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each other, uh, to exchange information.
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So, um, certainly at Hypix we were like, there has to be a
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better way, this is insane.
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And there are these big sophisticated, uh, systems inside your organization,
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um, but no one's really tried to connect to them inside and out.
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But also, you know, you can use that to connect your systems
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within your organization.
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So, you know, we, we put a lot of thought into this, uh,
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because it's the massive unlock.
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You… It has to be easy.
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It can't be expensive.
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And at Hypix basically, so you join Hypix you, um, you can, uh, EDI or it's,
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uh, API or integrate, um, that's fine.
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But also you can simply unify your data by bringing it in like from
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all your suppliers, like if- Or your suppliers are not in Hypix, that's fine.
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You take what they give you in the format that they give it to you in,
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and then you can ingest it into Hypix, and Hypix does all the hard work in
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terms of, okay, how you want your data.
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You know, you would've set it up to sort of say, this is how I want my data, these
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are the formats, these are my systems.
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Um, and, um, so when you ingest that data, Hypix can also then push it back out to
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whatever system y- or systems you have in the format that makes sense to you.
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Um, it, it might sound really basic, but at the moment, um, I think that
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ingestion piece is really hard, and I think, um, a lot of that, you know,
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AI has made that, and a lot of our backend system has made that easy.
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You know, we've definitely taken the approach that keep the complexity
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in the backend so on the front end it's deceivingly simple, and that's
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absolutely, um, how AI should be.
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Um, and, you know, uh, traditionally when you looked at, say, um, a master data
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management system, you've sort of had to define, this is my data, this is my data
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model, here's what I want and how I want.
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A lot of thinking would have to go into that.
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And I have to say, i- if you're a, um, a, a, a, you know, a business with not
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enormous resources to spare, which is probably most of us, and, you know, uh,
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you got no time, you got no time, uh, you don't really wanna have to sit there
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and map out all your systems and your models and how does it all come together.
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You just wanna know, you just know that for my ERP or my, my mid-size ERP,
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this is, this is how I need my data.
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For this system, my maybe it's my warehouse management system, this is
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how I need my data, uh, et cetera.
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That's all you gotta know.
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And, uh, and you sort of upload that into Hypix and the Hypix
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does all that translation for you.
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So there's a real sort of, um, unlock, I think, that you can
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do to unify your data within the organization to keep it clean without-
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Overly, over-engineering it, right?
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Um, you, you know, your finance di- director or manager can continues
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to have full ownership over the ERP system, for example, and it might
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be that your marketing guys have full ownership over your product
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information management system.
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Same thing for warehousing, et cetera.
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None of that changes, and they can continue doing it in the
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formats that they've always done it in, um, because Hypix does all
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the hard work in the back end.
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So that's just one example of, um, uh, of a… And, uh, clearly we believe in
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Hypix as, as being, um, you know, a real, um, revolutionary unlock here because AI
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should unlock simplicity and should unlock time for businesses, uh, big and small.
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So, you know, this sort of, "I can't use AI because I don't have good data, or
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I don't know how to unify my data," um, should no longer be a problem anymore.
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Um, it's something that you, you can actually, uh, bring all together, uh,
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easier than you've ever done it before.
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Like, I think, um, it's really been a, um, uh, certainly a real barrier in the
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past, but I think maybe it's, it's almost a mental barrier now because people have
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the scars of giving it a go in the past.
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Uh, yeah.
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They're like, "Oh my God, I don't wanna touch my data.
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It's been a nightmare." Yeah.
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Um, whereas all of that, you know, is, is being made really easy.
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So, um, honestly, it's, it's almost a commercial imperative these days, um, that
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if you're a small business, you probably should be using AI because that's how
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you're gonna leapfrog the competition.
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That's how you're gonna catch up to, if you're a small organization,
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to the big organizations.
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If you're a big organization, that's how you're gonna, you know, leapfrog
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all that l- all those legacy systems.
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This is how you're gonna unlock the- The, the terabytes of data that
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you have sitting there but has been in the too hard bucket, obviously.
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Um, I don't have the time or the resources to unlock that data,
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and so you narrow everything.
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But honestly, you're missing out if, if you can't, um, uh, you know, address,
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uh, and unify some of that data, so.
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Denise Killian: Mm-hmm.
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So… And that's something that, you know, for a lot of folks, it's, okay, my
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sales platform is this, and this is the information that it's in, and this is the
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way that I can pull reports from there.
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But then I need to compare it to this that's in my inventory
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system, and then my distribution system is a whole another thing.
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So you're spending half a day- Mm-hmm … pulling basic information that
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you need to make important decisions.
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Claudine Ogilvie : Yes.
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Denise Killian: So having some way to unify it- But
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Claudine Ogilvie : it's really hard, right?
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Denise Killian: Yeah.
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Having some way to unify it to where it's just right there for you, um,
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Claudine Ogilvie : that's a great thing.
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You wanna spend your time copy-pasting out of this system, this systems
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in, in the right format so you can, you can then do analyses.
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Um, s- no.
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No.
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Just, you know, funnel it through, through, um, a tool like Hypix,
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because that'll do it for you.
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And then you've got real data that you can get real insights out of easily.
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Um, I mean, how much time would you save if you didn't have to worry about,
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you know, uh, getting your data all together in the right format and the
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right way so that, you know, I don't have… 'Cause crap, crap in is crap
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out when it comes to data, right?
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Um, good AI needs good data.
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Um, and, uh, and AI should be for everyone, right?
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Big, small, legacy, new.
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Um, and, uh, and I think, I think that's the promise, and I think, uh, many
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organizations are finding it harder than they should because of their data.
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Denise Killian: Mm-hmm.
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Right.
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Mm. So when we talk about that data and some of the other strategies,
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first of all, you gotta get it unified.
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Yep.
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Uh, you've gotta be able to at a glance do it and not spend half a day- Yep … and
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15 people to make it happen, uh, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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That unify that data.
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Another thing that you brought up, uh, was about the dual sourcing strategies.
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Yep.
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So I wanna talk about that a little bit.
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And, and in terms of a recommendation when things are so shifting so
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quickly, like if you need the one widget for your product- Mm-hmm
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and, you know, there's probably 15 people or places around the
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world that make that widget.
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Claudine Ogilvie : Yep.
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Denise Killian: Mm-hmm.
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But who has what and when can sometimes be in so much flux.
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So what is the recommendation there?
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Claudine Ogilvie : I'm so glad you asked.
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So, um, so on- once you get all your suppliers into Hivepix, um, I think,
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uh, the really or a really impo- uh, powerful tool is that your suppliers,
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assuming they're in Hivepix, and if they're not, like I said, you can
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import their data on their behalf 'cause they've given it to you anyway.
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So that gives you a unique, um, visibility that was, um, difficult to obtain before.
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But, but if they are in Hivepix, they can actually make their entire product
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catalog public, and what that means is, as you might say your website,
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and you might say, "Hey, I'm happy for everyone to see what I have," right?
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Um, you can
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That means that your customers can then see all of the products that you
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have, whether or not you purchased that product, which would be what
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would be in your ERP system, right?
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Um, but maybe I need a slightly different product or maybe, um, an
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alternate or, um, you know, a product would, would, you know, would suffice.
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Uh, for example, except that because I didn't buy it, it's not in my systems.
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I can't search for it.
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But in Hivepix, um, you know, you can put everything in, uh, in
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Hivepix so that it's searchable.
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We have a client who, um- Who, uh, explicitly needs great visibility,
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not just of the product spec, but of their distributors', um, uh,
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inventory and pricing specific to them.
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Um, so that they can then bundle and package and reshape that, those
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products and then on-sell them.
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That's kind of their business model.
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And, uh, and so they've, uh, onboarded one of their major su-
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uh, suppliers and distributors to specifically provide, um, uh, in-
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inventory and pricing data to them.
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Because you don't have to…
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W- when you put, uh, information in Hypix, we have, like, these granular,
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uh, uh, uh, security and permissions so that you can decide that company
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A sees this kind of data, company B sees slightly different data.
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It gives you real power as to how you go to market and who, you know, what pricing
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do different, um, customers see because maybe they're in a different tier, maybe
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you've broken a different deal with them because of volume or whatever the,
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whatever your deal happens to be, right?
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Um, so Hypix gives them full control from a distributor and supplier perspective
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to put out to market what they want in the way that they want it, right?
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So from a supplier-distributor perspective, it's win-win.
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They, they get a new channel to market, a new ta- channel to sell more.
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From a customer perspective, they can see more of, um, different
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products from different suppliers and distributors, and they can make
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better, more informed decisions.
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Not just for, say, um, sourcing in the moment, but also for strategic sourcing.
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As you sort of mentioned, Denise, it's also dual sourcing strategies.
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Look, if, you know, if I can't get it from supplier A, I can get it from
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supplier B. You know, um, what if the Baltimore Bridge goes down and, and
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suddenly there's just no availability?
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It's got nothing to do with pricing.
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Um, uh, you know, who else can I turn to for the volumes that I need?
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And it's often not just, like, the one supplier.
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Sometimes you have to turn to multiples.
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Now, how do you find that fast?
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And so in Hypix, we've, um, we've unlocked this ability to, to search across
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products, across, um, uh, your suppliers, across, um, like, you know, almost any
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angle that you'd like to see, uh, you know, who and what are out there, um, uh,
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in your, in your particular ecosystem.
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So you, you basically are empowered to build out your
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ecosystems that matter to you.
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Um, and in that way you get this sort of unparalleled visibility.
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Um, visibility is key here.
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You know, uh, I think a lot of the data exists- Um, but it's really hard to
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get, um, up-to-date information fast.
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Um, and I think today, uh, this particular company I was talking
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about before would have to ring up every distributor and supplier and
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be like, "So what have you got?
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At what price?
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You know, what's available?
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All right." And then only after, sometimes it can be a week or two,
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um, of ringing around, do they really understand what is available at what
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price, and then they can confidently bundle, repackage, and then sell, right?
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Um, that's insane.
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Whereas it should be just click button , search, select appropriate products,
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um, and then, then on you go, right?
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So they, they see this as a huge, um, competitive unlock for them.
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Uh, and their distributor suppliers see this as a whole new channel to market
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where they can sell more, more quickly.
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So this is, um… I love this use case 'cause it's such a
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win-win across the supply chain.
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Denise Killian: No, absolutely.
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And I would imagine having that information all in kind of one
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place can also kind of help you identify some of the predictors
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before a big disruption happens.
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Claudine Ogilvie : Uh, y- maybe, maybe.
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Um, before, uh, predict-- in what, what were you thinking, Denise?
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Denise Killian: Like if you're seeing- Yeah, interpret the question … um, that
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there are fewer of this widget, right?
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We're gonna go back to the widget.
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Oh.
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Claudine Ogilvie : Oh, I see.
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Denise Killian: There are fewer of this widget, and your main
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supplier has fewer of this widget.
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Yeah.
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But then I'm looking around- I'm with you.
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I'm with you … but I'm seeing, oh wait, there's fewer here and there's
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fewer here and there's fewer here.
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In terms of predicting there could be something going on, I need to act now and
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not wait and see if, if it turns around.
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Claudine Ogilvie : Yeah.
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Actually, that's a really good point.
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I mean, if you, if you can see before anybody else, uh, that there is a, uh,
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um, a supply challenge or availability challenge, it really gives you, um,
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the information and the tools to go forth and, and address that first.
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Maybe get the supplier that, uh, that, you know, get, get to that supplier first.
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That's, that's another option, but also sort of get on top of your strategies
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as to how are you gonna mitigate, um, uh, a potential, uh, looming issue.
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Yeah, no, 100%.
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And you know, speed and being first to market, uh, or certainly, uh, being first
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to, uh, supply if supply-demand is being challenged can mean, uh, having product
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to sell, having no product to sell.
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Absolutely.
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Yep.
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Denise Killian: And, you know, uh, uh, as, as an example, years ago, uh, Southwest,
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an American airline, was really, really smart and had some foresight and say, "I
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think gas prices are going up," and they bought a ton of gas, and they were able…
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A, a ton of jet fuel that they had in stock, like ready to go, where every
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other airline had to start raising their prices and raising their prices
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and raising their prices, and they got to stay and increase their business
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because they didn't increase their price because the main indicator for your
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airline fare is the cost of jet fuel.
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Yeah.
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And they had a stockpile already at that previous price.
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So being able to see like, oh, if this is… If there's fewer of this widget,
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or I'm seeing the prices go up on this on multiple suppliers, I kinda need to
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act now before it gets worse, right?
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Claudine Ogilvie : Yeah.
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Yeah, no, a hun- 100%.
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Um, uh, I mean, that's, um, you know, uh, a hedging and, uh, call it
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strategic sourcing for resilience.
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Uh, they, they were really smart, and a lot of airlines try to, try to do that.
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Some do it better than others and, um, yeah, speed to market and having
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the insights before the others can, uh, make all the difference.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So-
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Denise Killian: So as we're winding down our time, unfortunately, 'cause we could
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talk for hours and hours, uh, my friend.
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You're so smart about so many things.
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I wanna ask you, if you could give a piece of advice to any business leader
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out there that about their supply chain going forward, what would it be?
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Claudine Ogilvie : It, it would simply be you've already got a lot of data.
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Uh, I haven't come across a business that doesn't have data.
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It's just how usable and accessible is it, you know, so that you can translate
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that into both better insights for decision-making and, and unlocking
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your time as a business person, right?
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Um, so, uh, I would say it's not as hard as it used to be.
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Um, you know, there are tools out there like Hivepix that help you
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automate, um, the exchange of product data across supply chain partners.
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So you get that automation, um, the, the cost out, um, benefits of course.
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But also there are much bigger, more strategic plays here.
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Like, once you get, um, access to this ecosystem of data, it unlocks,
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um, better sales, uh, um, for you.
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Not just for you, but your entire ecosystem, right?
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You kind of become the, the, the preferred, um, supplier
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or customer to work with.
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You know, being part of an ecosystem like this, that is win-win.
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Um, you know, it unlocks, uh, sales, it unlocks savings.
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Uh, it helps to protect your margins.
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I mean, all these things make, all these things make an enormous difference in
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a really competitive market where AI is becoming, uh, uh, increasingly… Uh,
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it's, it's embedded part of your business.
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It's often it's backend infrastructure, sure, and it's sort of becoming
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a part of the tools that you use.
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But also it's, um, you know, it's the front end stuff
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like the pilots that you use.
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And, and if you wanna start using AI to start unlocking even, even
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simple use cases, um, you know, don't, don't be afraid that you don't
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have the data to, to get it done.
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You know, I think, um, you know, you can unify it pretty easily.
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You can get it into one spot and, and spin up your, say, um, a product
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template within Hivepix really easily, like drag and drop kind of stuff.
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Um, and so yeah, don't be afraid.
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Give it a go.
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Lean into it.
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Um, AI and, um, and data is the unlock to competitiveness, to freeing up
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your time and improving your margins.
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Denise Killian: Excellent.
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Excellent.
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Claudine, how can people get ahold of you or learn more about Hivepix?
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Claudine Ogilvie : Yeah, glad you asked.
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Um, you can, you can contact us on our website, um, which is
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Hivepix, H-I-V-E-P-I-X, .com.
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Um, or of course, uh, feel free to connect with me on, on, on LinkedIn
26:55
or, um, uh, my email address.
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Uh, anyone is more than welcome to email me directly at Claudine,
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C-L-A-U-D-I-N-E, .o@hivepix.com.
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Denise Killian: Excellent.
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Claudine, this has been so enlightening, and it's just great when we know that
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there are some steps that you can take to help you get through sort of the quagmire
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of things that are beyond your control.
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So thank you for this illumination.
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Thanks.
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And, uh, it's, it's hopeful and helpful, and I certainly
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appreciate your time today.
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Claudine Ogilvie : Thanks, Denise.
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It's been really great to chat, and I look forward to hearing about, uh,
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more use cases from more companies who want to unlock their data.
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It's, it's an exciting time.
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Denise Killian: Well, we hope today's conversation has given you some
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practical tools to help you sharpen your edge and accelerate your growth.
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