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Speaker 1: Third morning, folks, Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time.
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Speaker 1: Hey, good morning till you welcome into the radio show.
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Speaker 1: people passers by from by the studios.
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Speaker 3: Let's say the letters of the b are burnt out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's it look like it says chucking
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Speaker 1: uck in the mornings. Yeah, that's that happens sometimes. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes you have to replace the letters with whatever
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Speaker 1: letters you have available to you, like an eight for example, yes,
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Speaker 1: instead of a bee, just to see if you can
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Speaker 1: trick passers by.
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Speaker 3: That's smart thinking.
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Speaker 1: I know, I know, we've we've covered it all here
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Speaker 1: at iHeart. We spare no expense. Good morning to you,
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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday, Happy hump day.
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Speaker 8: Man.
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Speaker 1: Do we have a lot to discuss here over our
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Speaker 1: four hours together. That's right, we'll be taking you till
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Speaker 1: ten o'clock. We'll go over with what's on tap coming
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Speaker 1: up here In a moment, couple of wrinkles to today's program.
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Speaker 1: Ashley has jumped aboard. It was New Year's resolution number
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Speaker 1: sixty three of mine out of four hundred and ninety six.
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Speaker 1: This year, I intend never to be disappointed this year. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: for the entire calendar year, that's a resolution of mine.
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Speaker 1: And so Ashley and I put together a plan where like,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get Mike McDonald on this week, and let's
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Speaker 1: get Matt Hasselbeck as our special Seahawks playoff insider as well.
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Speaker 1: So it was pretty lofty goal. You know, this time
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Speaker 1: of the year, Mike McDonald's not doing a lot of
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Speaker 1: interviews and Matt Hasselbeck's you know, everybody wants to talk
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Speaker 1: to Matt Hasselbeck, and damn if we didn't pull it
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Speaker 1: off this week. Yeah, so yeah, way to go.
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Speaker 3: Actually kind of impressive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, really did a great job too, Really well done
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Speaker 1: on your part. So, yes, it looks like I'm going
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Speaker 1: to have an entire calendar year of not being disappointed.
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Speaker 7: Man, I wish that I could say I wouldn't have
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Speaker 7: a part in ruining that thing, that that resolution. Yeah,
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Speaker 7: you're probably going to live to disappointment. Yeah, I think
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Speaker 7: that I will disappoint you at some point in time, but.
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Speaker 1: Maybe I've already done it.
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Speaker 9: Just have that as a sub thing underneath that resolution
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Speaker 9: resolution number thirty two.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well it's like thirty two then thirty three, and
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Speaker 7: it would be fitting thirty three is unless it's Bucky,
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Speaker 7: then it still counts as not being disappointed.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, like all the resolutions sort of that's just skind
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Speaker 1: of built into the fab it is. O.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So like I'm exempt from ruining them, ning them,
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Speaker 1: like I want to live it every day with joy
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Speaker 1: and and not let Bucky ruin, right right, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 7: I think it's a great plan as long as that
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Speaker 7: just put that at the top, right, all of these
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Speaker 7: exclude Bucky factors, and then you're gonna have a lot
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Speaker 7: better chance because that one I will ruin.
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Speaker 1: I shall disappoint you again and again. I have no
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Speaker 1: doubt that you will just stomp all over my Yea.
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Speaker 11: Now you've said it for success, because now you've said
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Speaker 11: I will disappoint you at some time this year, Whereas
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Speaker 11: if you didn't disappoint him, he would now be disappointed
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Speaker 11: that you didn't do what you said you were going
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Speaker 11: to do it. True, So now every time you disappoint him,
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Speaker 11: he's gonna be like, aha, I'm so glad Bucky did
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Speaker 11: that today.
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Speaker 1: Can't be disappointed if you don't set that expectation, right, yeah, exactly. Well, anyway,
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Speaker 1: nice job, Ashley, We're going to pay that off for you. Today.
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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck will be joining us today to get his
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Speaker 1: new role in his life started with us, so we're
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Speaker 1: excited about that. Coming up at eight o'clock, Mike McDonald
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Speaker 1: will be joining us Friday on the radio program, and
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Speaker 1: we'll give you details on that. I think eight o'clock
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Speaker 1: is what we're going to do on Friday morning as well,
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Speaker 1: so he'll join us on a football Friday. Excited about
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Speaker 1: both of those things and about a guest that we're
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Speaker 1: going to have on today for the very first time,
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Speaker 1: and it seems like the perfect time to have him
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Speaker 1: on again. You set your expectations and then Ashley finds
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Speaker 1: a way to surpass them. I really like this twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty six Ashley.
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Speaker 3: You know if I like the way I'm setting myself
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Speaker 3: up for the rest of the year.
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Speaker 1: Really off to a good start. So we'll tell you
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Speaker 1: more about that coming up in What's on Tap. But
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Speaker 1: we begin today's program with a thing that everybody seems
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Speaker 1: to be talking about. I'm not kidding you. I let
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Speaker 1: the overnight pass and then woke up this morning to
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Speaker 1: see what the social media buzz was in regards to
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Speaker 1: Demand Williams Junior and now granted it's reading my timeline
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Speaker 1: and the stories that I was interested in last night
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Speaker 1: before I went to bed. But I'm telling you nine
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Speaker 1: out of ten entries were nothing but reaction to the
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Speaker 1: story yesterday. That was Demond Williams Junior backing out of
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Speaker 1: his commitment to you Dub, not even being in the
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Speaker 1: transfer portal until yesterday, and then announcing it in an
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Speaker 1: inglorious fashion that he was entering the transfer portal when
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Speaker 1: the entire college football world already knew that he had
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Speaker 1: agreed to a deal with the snake known as Lane
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Speaker 1: Kiffen down there in Louisiana State University. And so if
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Speaker 1: you're just joining us this morning, you know, knocking the
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Speaker 1: krusties out of your eyes and try and you haven't
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Speaker 1: heard this story, I will just briefly recap it. Demond
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Speaker 1: Williams is leaving Washington despite having an NIL deal, and
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Speaker 1: he's going to LSU, and you Dub is trying legally
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Speaker 1: to keep that from happening. Not that they think that
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Speaker 1: they're going to keep Demond Williams in a Husky uniform
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Speaker 1: at this point, but just in an effort to say, well,
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Speaker 1: this can't be allowed, right, I realize we're in a
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Speaker 1: different era of the college football world. But two weeks
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Speaker 1: ago he agreed to be here, stay here, took money
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Speaker 1: to do so, signed his name on a contract to
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Speaker 1: do so, and now he has the ability to just
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Speaker 1: rip that up because he got a better offer in
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Speaker 1: the last forty eight hours. Yeah, looks like that's exactly
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Speaker 1: what has happened. So he's going to LSU. He won't
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Speaker 1: be at Washington going forward, and the entire college football
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Speaker 1: world is an upheaval. Many people, and not just pissed
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Speaker 1: off Husky fans, but many people across the country wondering
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Speaker 1: if this is going to be the example that sets
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Speaker 1: the tone for where the line is drawn with NIL
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Speaker 1: transfer portal deals and everything else. We'll see, but this
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Speaker 1: might end up being, I mean, demon Williams might be
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Speaker 1: famous long term for like Kurt Flood was for free
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Speaker 1: agency in Major League Baseball. This might be the story
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Speaker 1: that forces the NCAA College Football to examine thoroughly and
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Speaker 1: act quickly on what they're going to allow contractually in
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Speaker 1: NIL going forward.
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Speaker 7: Well, they have, I mean, we've talked about it at length,
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Speaker 7: just because of the chaos that is the transfer port
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Speaker 7: of the way in which it has changed everything, and
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Speaker 7: there's no there's nothing that's stable. You just feel like,
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Speaker 7: you know, you use the joke like if somebody gets
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Speaker 7: a stale bagel or something that they I'm out, or
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Speaker 7: if a girl in economics class doesn't say hi to him,
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Speaker 7: I'm transferring whatever, whatever, something frivolous might be. Now, if
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Speaker 7: this one is I was going to make five million dollars,
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Speaker 7: but I get offered six million dollars, then I can
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Speaker 7: jump ship and just say, well, I got to do
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Speaker 7: what's best for my family.
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Speaker 1: All that's finding good. It's not like he didn't say
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Speaker 1: for family. He said very clearly, I'm going to get
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Speaker 1: I gotta do the best for me, for me and
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Speaker 1: my future.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, my future, and so yeah, I mean it's all
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Speaker 7: of it is fine and well, how people are going
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Speaker 7: to make their decisions. It's just that you have to
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Speaker 7: have some sort of barrier, some sort of guardrails on
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Speaker 7: the thing, and they haven't had any.
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Speaker 1: You just you can't let it just be. Well, this
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Speaker 1: was supposed to be a guard rail they were supposed
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Speaker 1: to have. NCAA was going to start paying players and
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Speaker 1: then you're supposed to be able to sign a contract,
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Speaker 1: and then that made it.
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Speaker 3: I mean, well, when you signed some agreement.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you dub assuing him. I mean, they're suing the process.
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Speaker 1: Now what they get out of that, I'm not sure.
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Speaker 1: I mean I just I read this morning an attorney
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Speaker 1: breaking it down and she said they're not going to
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Speaker 1: be able to keep him from going to LS.
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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think they want to. I don't think
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Speaker 3: you would.
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Speaker 1: They're not going to be able to force him to
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Speaker 1: stay in a UW uniform. At best, they're going to
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Speaker 1: get some money back out of the deal. And that's
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Speaker 1: about all you can expect until the NCAA in college
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Speaker 1: football gets together and actually puts those guardrails up.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, puts up enough that based is beyond a parent
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Speaker 7: I mean I always thought, I mean, I'm only fifty,
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Speaker 7: so who knows what I know. I always thought a
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Speaker 7: contract was binding to some extent. Now whatever it is
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Speaker 7: they're having them sign for nil deals apparently is not
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Speaker 7: the same thing.
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Speaker 1: It's just here, here's what we.
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Speaker 7: Agree to pay you, and yet you can leave if
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Speaker 7: somebody calls you, some snake in the grass calls you.
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Speaker 7: After that, Now, the idea of once you've signed again,
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Speaker 7: re signed again, that you should be off limits to
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Speaker 7: someone being able to contact you but the agents. And
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Speaker 7: there's been shadiness going on in sports and in college
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Speaker 7: football primarily forever, and now it's kind of like it's
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Speaker 7: all above board, or it's supposedly all out in the open,
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Speaker 7: and yet there's still well if you give an inch,
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Speaker 7: then they'll take a yard that type of thing. It's like, oh,
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Speaker 7: they're letting us do this, okay, and there's a cap,
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Speaker 7: a twenty and a half million dollar cap, and they
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Speaker 7: got to split that.
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Speaker 1: They are finding ways around that whole thing.
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Speaker 7: And then obviously now we're recognized, recognizing that they're finding
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Speaker 7: ways around even the rules of what is and what
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Speaker 7: isn't off limits. I mean, once somebody says I'm coming
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Speaker 7: back or I'm going to transfer to this place, it
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Speaker 7: shouldn't be Well, now that we know that you're open
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Speaker 7: to it, we can or even at that point he
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Speaker 7: was saying, I'm not open to leaving, I'm not wanting
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Speaker 7: to leave, I'm coming back, and.
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Speaker 1: So everybody's excited.
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Speaker 7: That was just a few days ago, and then now
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Speaker 7: all of a sudden he's you find out that at
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Speaker 7: the probably the worst possible time, while him a bunch
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Speaker 7: of his teammates are so at the memorial for the
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Speaker 7: soccer player, Mia, What was there you handt Mia Hammond, Yeah,
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Speaker 7: that they're they're at that thing, and he then announces
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Speaker 7: on Instagram that I'm entering the transfer portal.
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Speaker 1: It's just it's beyond a bad look.
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Speaker 7: But you're right, if a defensive end leaves does the
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Speaker 7: same thing, or a cornerback or a running back, it
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Speaker 7: doesn't hit the same as somebody that you know, people
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Speaker 7: were talking about this as a Heisman candidate, and you
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Speaker 7: know you've rebound after everything that happened with Katherin de
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Speaker 7: bor leaving and Jedfish and Demon Williams come in here,
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Speaker 7: and now you're thinking, hey, all right, boom, at the
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Speaker 7: end of the season, you got to first and foremost
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Speaker 7: lock down your guys and then get some from the
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Speaker 7: transfer portal in you think you do that with your quarterback.
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Speaker 7: And now you hear that he might be jumping ship
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Speaker 7: or his jumping ship. I think, as she's right, I
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Speaker 7: don't think anybody wants him back.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 7: Once you do that, it's like, okay, we don't necessarily
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Speaker 7: want you back, but they're going to create some sort
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Speaker 7: of chaos that is going to maybe mess up LSU's
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Speaker 7: world a little bit, or possibly have to give them
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Speaker 7: some money. I have no idea, but they got to
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Speaker 7: figure out some sort of punishment for stuff like this.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I would think, I don't even care if
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Speaker 1: we don't officially ironclad know how this is gonna work
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Speaker 1: going forward. But you sign a contract with another entity,
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Speaker 1: it should mean more than well, I've got this minimum
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Speaker 1: and now I can start negotiating with other people. It
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Speaker 1: has to mean more than that.
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Speaker 11: Right well, and especially in this situation, this was kind
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Speaker 11: of a new I mean, I think they.
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Speaker 3: Signed a shared revenue. Yeah, shared revenue.
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Speaker 11: So it wasn't just like your this is just a
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Speaker 11: contract for you to play here. This was we're going
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Speaker 11: to share money we make with you, and you know,
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Speaker 11: and that's how important you are to us. And so
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Speaker 11: I think the really unfortunate thing is this is making
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Speaker 11: coaches jobs impossible.
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Speaker 1: But the coaches are.
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Speaker 11: As much well I should say athletic director's jobs then,
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Speaker 11: or you know, administration jobs impossible, GMS. Now at college,
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Speaker 11: it's making all of the jobs impossible because now you've
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Speaker 11: recruited the guy. He's come to the school, he likes it,
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Speaker 11: he's decided to stay. You're giving him a shared revenue deal,
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Speaker 11: he signs it, and now he's leaving. I mean, what
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Speaker 11: are what are you supposed to do?
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Speaker 1: They have to have rules, and everybody's talking about it
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Speaker 1: and written. We have gone to the point where we're
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Speaker 1: paying the athletes out in the open, right.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I do laugh at the idea that man and we
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Speaker 1: used to think that. I can't believe that the NFL
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Speaker 1: is purer than college sports. The NFL has always been
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Speaker 1: purer than college sports. So I kind of laugh at
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Speaker 1: that kind of sentiment that's been shared overnight.
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Speaker 11: Uh.
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Speaker 1: But but we have to set up iron collaterals. It
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Speaker 1: has to be treated professionally. It has to You have
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Speaker 1: to have some commissioner, you have to have lawyers and
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Speaker 1: the contracts that they sign, and the rules have to
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Speaker 1: be put in place that if you validate, if you
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Speaker 1: invalidate them, there have to be consequences for it. You
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Speaker 1: just can't go to a better place. I mean, right now,
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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold can't decide, you know what, what a great
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Speaker 1: year I had with the Seahawks, But I'm gonna I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna make a little bit more money next year with
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. So I'm just gonna take it. No, no, no,
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Speaker 1: you signed a contract. So obviously, if you sign a
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Speaker 1: contract in sports, if you do it the right way,
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Speaker 1: it does have meaning, It does have teeth, it does
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Speaker 1: have grit. You can't just get out of it because
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Speaker 1: you want to. So whatever they're doing in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League obviously now has to happen at the college
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Speaker 1: sports level as well. And so you know, Rick new
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Speaker 1: ISAA talks about it all the time. You know, I
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Speaker 1: know they're gonna work on the college football calendar this offseason,
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Speaker 1: but this is gonna be I think the Okay, this
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Speaker 1: crosses the line. There's no way we can keep allowing
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Speaker 1: this to happen because what does U DUBB have to
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Speaker 1: do now? Their only choice is, well, now we got
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Speaker 1: to steal somebody else's quarterback yep. And then so it
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Speaker 1: just perpetuates the problem. It's just like the coaching situation.
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Speaker 1: College coaches contracts don't mean anything. I think they should.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think it's that outlandish to say
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Speaker 1: that you just can't leave for the better job immediately
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Speaker 1: because it pays you fourteen dollars more. I think that
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Speaker 1: there should be something there that should stick to people.
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Speaker 1: Lane keffn should have to sit out a year if
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Speaker 1: it's so great that he can coach at LSU. But
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Speaker 1: that snake doesn't think that anything is sacred. He'll will,
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Speaker 1: he will. He's like Edward Longshanks of England. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's the guy that's standing there at his assistant coach's
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Speaker 1: wedding saying, I get first rights to sleep with your wife.
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Speaker 1: Just what we agreed to. It's just the law. Sorry
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Speaker 1: about it, Bud, I've got first rights, you know. That's
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Speaker 1: that's the way that he treats everything in sports. He
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Speaker 1: just crushes anything that if he can eat it, he's
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Speaker 1: gonna eat it and that and we've got to stop
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Speaker 1: that mentality otherwise. Yes, the sport is in trouble. Aaron
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Speaker 1: Taylor said it a few weeks ago. I agree with
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Speaker 1: it completely. The sport is in this strange position. It's
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Speaker 1: as popular as ever, but it's as vulnerable as ever,
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Speaker 1: and so you have to now care for it in
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Speaker 1: a different way and you better get on it now. Yeah. Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean it's right.
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Speaker 7: It's kind of crazy the way that you just put it,
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Speaker 7: because it's like this going down is one of the
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Speaker 7: grosser examples of the of the transfer one because it
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Speaker 7: kind of hits close to home, and I see how
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Speaker 7: it affects all my friends that are you dub fans,
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Speaker 7: like they were just was a January second that he signed, right,
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Speaker 7: it was like everybody's like rope right on, boom, here
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Speaker 7: we go, you know, Heisman candidate. You just kind of
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Speaker 7: feel like you've got the most important piece locked up
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Speaker 7: for next year. And that's after the couple months of
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Speaker 7: wondering if Jedfish was going to be around. So it's like, okay,
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Speaker 7: that water's under the bridge. Now you've got your quarterback back.
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Speaker 7: You're like, here we go. Now just add some more
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Speaker 7: pieces and that and and and you know, improve on
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Speaker 7: a nine and four record, and everything's looking like it's
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Speaker 7: going on the up and up. Now all of a sudden,
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Speaker 7: it's like what and you find yourself in the midst
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Speaker 7: of kind of some upheople. The problem with it is,
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Speaker 7: I don't know for sure how you can. It's always
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Speaker 7: been that the powers would be the you know, corporate
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Speaker 7: iHeart has control over us, right like they we sign
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Speaker 7: a contract and then if they don't want us anymore,
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Speaker 7: they can say goodbye.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't say that.
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Speaker 7: We can't just say well, sorry, I'm I'm under contract,
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Speaker 7: but that place over there wants me more, so pay
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Speaker 7: up or I'm leaving. No, you're under contract. So somewhere
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Speaker 7: along the line it can't be fair and square. It's
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Speaker 7: not going to be fair and square. Somebody has to
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Speaker 7: have be the hammer. Somebody has to be the nail.
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Speaker 7: And unfortunately, at this point, yeah, we are nails for sure, but.
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Speaker 11: There's usually some sort of at least small protection. Right,
18:20
Speaker 11: even if they just let you go, you're going to
18:23
Speaker 11: get something. It's not if you're done and you don't
18:25
Speaker 11: get paid again after that day.
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Speaker 7: Right, there's got to be there's got to be some
18:29
Speaker 7: more rules put in place. Now we recognize that when
18:32
Speaker 7: everybody is clamoring you got to pay these guys. It
18:34
Speaker 7: seems like the NCAAAA just said, okay, here you go
18:39
Speaker 7: go ahead and pay them. See how if that works
18:41
Speaker 7: out for you, like they wanted the chaos. Well, now
18:43
Speaker 7: you're at the point of we're in the midst of
18:46
Speaker 7: getting ready to watch the semi finals, and there's no
18:48
Speaker 7: part of this ugly situation that just came down the
18:50
Speaker 7: pike yesterday that's going to make me not want to
18:53
Speaker 7: watch the college football playoffs, and yet it only has
18:56
Speaker 7: to hit close enough to home for you individually for
18:59
Speaker 7: some people to say I'm done. I'm not gonna do
19:02
Speaker 7: it anymore, especially if you were somebody that's been paying
19:04
Speaker 7: into some collective and now all of a sudden you
19:06
Speaker 7: feel like your money, like the Troy Aigmann situation, that
19:09
Speaker 7: that went out the door, because there's no nothing kind
19:12
Speaker 7: of reeling that thing in.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think this had to happen in the sports
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Speaker 1: where that maybe we had to live with this period
19:18
Speaker 1: of chaos. But there are some things that are obvious.
19:22
Speaker 1: Coaches should not be able to leave with multiple years
19:25
Speaker 1: on their contract without more of a penalty. Players in
19:29
Speaker 1: the middle of a national championship run. Should not be
19:32
Speaker 1: forced to make decisions whether or not they're transferring and
19:35
Speaker 1: leaving the roster before they even play in the championship
19:38
Speaker 1: came and this a guy that signs a contract should
19:42
Speaker 1: mean more than oh, now I've really got negotiating power
19:46
Speaker 1: because Washington knows me this minimum and yet now I
19:50
Speaker 1: can start looking around for something better. It has to
19:53
Speaker 1: mean more than that. So there are some obvious things
19:56
Speaker 1: on the table this offseason for college football, and there's
19:59
Speaker 1: no kicking these things down the road. No, you got
20:02
Speaker 1: to get addressed them now. You have to. As soon
20:05
Speaker 1: as the National Championship's over, I want to hear some
20:07
Speaker 1: legislation because there's no way that you can keep this
20:11
Speaker 1: going the way that it's going. Right now, we're gonna
20:13
Speaker 1: be talking about this throughout the show. Let's find out
20:15
Speaker 1: what's on tap, what's on TEP, what's on TEP? All right, Yeah,
20:22
Speaker 1: Demon Williams will be a big topic today and all
20:24
Speaker 1: the mini fingers that come from this story. Softy's gonna
20:28
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20:30
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20:32
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20:36
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20:40
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20:43
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20:47
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20:51
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Speaker 1: Demand Williams is leaving the University of Washington. The Husky
24:19
Speaker 1: quarterback who looked to be a top Heisman candidate heading
24:23
Speaker 1: into next year. Well, he reneged on his commitment, not
24:28
Speaker 1: just verbally but also contractually with Washington and left under
24:33
Speaker 1: the cloak of darkness. Last night, Penning a not so
24:37
Speaker 1: sensitive ladder on social media saying goodbye that he was
24:43
Speaker 1: entering the transfer portal, when pretty much everybody had already
24:46
Speaker 1: heard that Lane Kiffin, like a snake in the grass,
24:50
Speaker 1: had signed him and he's moving to LSU. We are
24:54
Speaker 1: talking about this a lot today. We're going to talk
24:56
Speaker 1: about it with Softy Maler coming up here at seven thirty.
25:00
Speaker 1: He's got a little bit more information that he can
25:02
Speaker 1: share on this front. College football playoff will resume tomorrow
25:06
Speaker 1: Ole Miss versus Miami. Indiana and Oregon will play on Friday.
25:10
Speaker 1: The NFL Wildcard playoff round starts on Saturday with the
25:14
Speaker 1: Rams and Carolina and then the Packers versus the Bears.
25:18
Speaker 1: I don't see the Seahawks on the schedule for this weekend.
25:20
Speaker 1: That's weird. I thought we made the plays, didn't we
25:22
Speaker 1: make the play?
25:23
Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 7: They got to buy that night number one seedson, who
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Speaker 7: does that go to the best team in the conference.
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Speaker 3: Oh it's like someone forfeited.
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Speaker 1: Can't lose YEP.
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Speaker 9: Basically, it's like they got the eighth seed to form
25:38
Speaker 9: that these teams were too scared and didn't want to play.
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Speaker 1: Good call, Yeah, good call. We must be really good then,
25:44
Speaker 1: So Seahawks on bye this week and they'll just sit
25:48
Speaker 1: back and watch. I mean, Mike McDonald's giving him days
25:50
Speaker 1: off this week for goodness sake, and so enjoy. Greg
25:54
Speaker 1: Bell will talk about that with us here in a moment.
25:56
Speaker 1: Let me also mention that John Harball was fired in
25:58
Speaker 1: Baltimore yesterday. He immediately become the top candidate out there
26:02
Speaker 1: for one of seven head coaching vacancies and maybe a
26:05
Speaker 1: couple of organizations that don't have a head coaching vacancy
26:10
Speaker 1: and see Harball as a possible improvement and college basketball.
26:14
Speaker 1: You dub at Purdue tonight to take on one of
26:16
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Speaker 1: thirty for the fighting sprinkles. Let's talk to Greg with
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Speaker 1: Bell with Chuck and Budd. When you're a you know,
26:46
Speaker 1: a Copla Diamond Prosecco guy like Greg Bell is, you're
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Speaker 1: not just a man of football interest. I mean you've
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Speaker 1: got to wide ranging interests. Yeah, a man of many tastes,
26:56
Speaker 1: many flavortic, oh, very international, an international flair about him.
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Speaker 1: He's always skiing and hiking and doing all sorts of
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Speaker 1: amazing things. So we won't just paint him in the
27:07
Speaker 1: corner to talk about Seahawks. Not when we've got such
27:10
Speaker 1: a big story in college football. Your two cents on
27:13
Speaker 1: this demand Williams story, Greg Bell, to get the conversation
27:16
Speaker 1: started today.
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Speaker 2: Well, I used to work for the University Washington football
27:21
Speaker 2: team and inside the athletic department. And this reminds me
27:26
Speaker 2: of how great J. C. Locker was And it makes
27:28
Speaker 2: me sound like a dinosaur to bring him up in
27:30
Speaker 2: a situation like this. But you talk about a guy
27:32
Speaker 2: who's loyal to his cause and his school and his commitment.
27:38
Speaker 2: Look the leaf time that the college football is just
27:41
Speaker 2: beyond broken greed and money and money and money. And
27:46
Speaker 2: when you say to blame the NCAAA. What gets lost
27:49
Speaker 2: in that is the NCAAA are the college presidents. There's
27:53
Speaker 2: nothing the NCAA does and acts decides upon, makes us
27:57
Speaker 2: rules without the college presidents. The member schools are the NCAA,
28:03
Speaker 2: and the member schools specifically are the college presidents who
28:06
Speaker 2: vote for what the NCAA does and then this case
28:09
Speaker 2: does not do. And it was the college presidents who
28:12
Speaker 2: decided to do nothing when the Alston case in twenty
28:16
Speaker 2: twenty one first started all of this with pay to
28:20
Speaker 2: play anil and name aolightness, and they just decided to
28:25
Speaker 2: not do anything and then fear getting sued, so they
28:28
Speaker 2: continue to do nothing. It's the college presidents who have
28:32
Speaker 2: called cash grab and the money and the television contracts,
28:36
Speaker 2: and the college presidents have allowed this. And it's the
28:40
Speaker 2: college presidents of the biggest schools in the big ten
28:42
Speaker 2: in the SEC, and I'm looking at you, University of Washington,
28:46
Speaker 2: who are the most culpable because they have the most
28:48
Speaker 2: to gain, because they have the most resources. They have
28:52
Speaker 2: the donors who are willing to bankroll this. The lsus
28:55
Speaker 2: of the world have the donors will say, yeah, well,
28:57
Speaker 2: just buy out Demon Williams from his contract with you
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Speaker 2: supposedly agreed to whether he signed or not with the
29:03
Speaker 2: University of Washington. We'll just try to check. And there's
29:06
Speaker 2: no court that's gonna step in and say no, you
29:08
Speaker 2: have to actually play and force the nineteen year old
29:10
Speaker 2: to play. So you have nineteen year old kids getting
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Speaker 2: adult money not learning the damn thing about what commitments
29:18
Speaker 2: and word and integrity just go get mine, and you
29:23
Speaker 2: have million dollar boosters for greedy college presidents who are
29:27
Speaker 2: fueling all this. When this will stop, when the donors
29:32
Speaker 2: finally say I'm not paying my millions of dollars for
29:35
Speaker 2: a quarterback who's going to leave in a year, and
29:37
Speaker 2: you're gonna come shake me down and ask again the
29:39
Speaker 2: same Montlake people, Montlake Futures people that they asked if
29:44
Speaker 2: they shook down to get them on Williams to agree
29:46
Speaker 2: to stay four days ago. Jetfish is going to come
29:49
Speaker 2: back and ask them for more money to get a
29:52
Speaker 2: new quarterback. And eventually those guys are gonna say, you
29:55
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna buy a yacht. I'm gonna go
29:58
Speaker 2: give to the symphony. I'll heaven forbid, maybe I'll even
30:02
Speaker 2: donate to a charity instead of giving my millions of
30:05
Speaker 2: dollars to a quarterback at the University of Washington or
30:07
Speaker 2: at LSU or that may be a poor example because
30:10
Speaker 2: no one will quit doing that in the sec but
30:12
Speaker 2: you get my point. Yeah, the the donors stopped doing
30:16
Speaker 2: this is when the music will stop and people this
30:19
Speaker 2: will crab cars crashing down. But as long as donors
30:22
Speaker 2: are willing to pay for this, college presidents are willing
30:25
Speaker 2: to go along with it. And it's all about money
30:27
Speaker 2: and greed, and it's sick, It's really sick. And then
30:29
Speaker 2: you have the optics of me and Hammond's memorial yesterday.
30:34
Speaker 2: You know a lot of people that are really really
30:35
Speaker 2: upset about that entire situation at the University of Washington
30:40
Speaker 2: going through that, and then for the quarterback to do
30:43
Speaker 2: what he did the middle of law that while those
30:45
Speaker 2: teammates were in heck, ad was a whole nother part
30:48
Speaker 2: of this.
30:48
Speaker 1: How's ride bucket, Greg had some faults good stuff. Yeah,
30:51
Speaker 1: I'm not I mean, and I'm with you.
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Speaker 7: I mean, there's a there's an ugliness or just a
30:56
Speaker 7: yuckiness to the entire thing. I mean, I don't think
31:01
Speaker 7: it's entirely on the collective thing, because we've we just
31:04
Speaker 7: moved into the place where now that the universities get
31:08
Speaker 7: to pay. Now it's supposed to be just the you know,
31:10
Speaker 7: like a cap twenty and a half million bucks. You
31:12
Speaker 7: spread that across all of the athletes, which everybody knew
31:14
Speaker 7: ninety percent was going to go to football players. Are
31:16
Speaker 7: fifth eighty five percent was going to go to football players.
31:18
Speaker 7: So it's not the money's not going to stop. If
31:21
Speaker 7: no more collectives were out there, if there was nobody
31:24
Speaker 7: else paying the extra nil money on the name, you know,
31:27
Speaker 7: that was aside from what they're getting paid just to play,
31:32
Speaker 7: then I would be with you if everybody just kind
31:34
Speaker 7: of got together, like, let's not do this anymore, because
31:36
Speaker 7: why would you pay for some high school kid that's
31:38
Speaker 7: going to come in for a year and then move.
31:41
Speaker 7: I'm with you, but I just don't think the money's
31:43
Speaker 7: going to dry up. The university isn't going to stop
31:45
Speaker 7: making money.
31:45
Speaker 1: People believe that that twenty million dollar idea was going
31:49
Speaker 1: to work.
31:49
Speaker 2: No, well, no, The point about the point about the
31:52
Speaker 2: revenue share is if you cut out the nil, which
31:56
Speaker 2: now the needs out of the bottle, and the courts
31:57
Speaker 2: would never let you do that anyway.
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Speaker 13: I'm going to share at least had a cap and
32:02
Speaker 13: at least there were some regulations as to, Okay, this
32:04
Speaker 13: money came from this source and will be paid to
32:06
Speaker 13: this university can choose to pay this much money to
32:10
Speaker 13: this kid, and that's a slotted cost is regulated and
32:13
Speaker 13: there is at least.
32:14
Speaker 2: Abide by something. The no guardrail part of the NIL
32:18
Speaker 2: is what I'm talking about. That's where the donor money
32:20
Speaker 2: will eventually stop, when those donors will say no, I'm
32:23
Speaker 2: done with this. The revenue share piece, yeah, at least
32:26
Speaker 2: there's some guardrails to that. The unguard rail, unregulated piece
32:30
Speaker 2: is what we're talking about, and that's what that will.
32:35
Speaker 2: That's where the haves get richer and the have nots
32:37
Speaker 2: fall off. And you're seeing it already in some of
32:39
Speaker 2: the universities. I read a story the Denver Post Jester Bada,
32:42
Speaker 2: color University of Colorado donor who said, I'm done. I'm
32:46
Speaker 2: not doing this anymore. You're asking me to up it
32:49
Speaker 2: so I can increase Deon Sanders' contract, and you're asking
32:52
Speaker 2: me to up it so I can get a better quarterback.
32:55
Speaker 2: And we're done. And now schools like Colorado are falling off.
33:00
Speaker 2: Three and nine and three ten again because their donors
33:03
Speaker 2: aren't stepping up anymore. So now Colorado's having a reckoning
33:07
Speaker 2: of well, what are we gonna do? Our donors aren't
33:09
Speaker 2: paying for this anymore. That reckoning's coming to every other
33:13
Speaker 2: school that doesn't want to have that at least has
33:16
Speaker 2: some donors who have other things to do. Seattle has
33:19
Speaker 2: donors who have other things to do. Birmingham, Alabama, or
33:22
Speaker 2: Batonu's Louisiana not so much.
33:25
Speaker 10: So.
33:26
Speaker 2: That's really what it's coming down to is when these
33:29
Speaker 2: people's money goes somewhere else, this is gonna come crashing down.
33:32
Speaker 2: But if the schools have donors who don't have money
33:35
Speaker 2: to go anywhere else, like Baton Rouge in Gainesville, in
33:38
Speaker 2: Birmingham and Tuscaloosa, then it'll keep going, and then that'll
33:42
Speaker 2: be the only ones left that we play in this
33:44
Speaker 2: silly game. It's it's gross, it's sick. It's not what
33:49
Speaker 2: Chris Peterson nailed it when he was the coach at Washington.
33:52
Speaker 2: We're supposed to be developing young men into being functioning
33:56
Speaker 2: adults and fathers and leaders. What are we teaching nineteen
34:00
Speaker 2: year old kids? Go get the most money you can
34:02
Speaker 2: get why you can get it. It's a pretty sad
34:05
Speaker 2: situation at the NFL. Isn't actually a more moral and
34:10
Speaker 2: more sure encompassed an organization in college football? That's gross
34:15
Speaker 2: because there's a ton of things wrong with the NFL
34:17
Speaker 2: as far as money goes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a dark little cigarette. Think it always
34:20
Speaker 1: has been, you know, I really do. I think the
34:22
Speaker 1: NFL has always been a cleaner and less corrupt than
34:26
Speaker 1: college athletics. Greg Bella is with us, our Seahawks insider,
34:30
Speaker 1: joining us here on Chuck and Buck. Of course, it's
34:33
Speaker 1: been the main topic reacting to the demand Williams junior story.
34:37
Speaker 1: We'll have Softy on to talk about it at seven thirty.
34:39
Speaker 1: We do have a.
34:40
Speaker 2: He'll be measured again.
34:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, he'll be calm. They'll be real calm
34:44
Speaker 1: about it, really impartial. Yeah, so we'll chat with him
34:48
Speaker 1: at seven thirty. We should talk a little Seahawks. I mean,
34:51
Speaker 1: we don't play again for another week and a half,
34:53
Speaker 1: so it's not like we're hasty about it. But let
34:56
Speaker 1: me ask you what Clint Kobiac's week has been like
35:00
Speaker 1: over there at the facility of the Seahawks.
35:04
Speaker 2: Well, now he's fielding four, and I would assume the
35:07
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens will make five teams that are requesting to
35:10
Speaker 2: talk to him for head coaching jobs. So we can
35:12
Speaker 2: throw out whether teams see him as a viable head
35:15
Speaker 2: coaching candidate. Answer that is yes, he is this year's
35:18
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson. Johnson, of course, this time last year was
35:21
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator for the number one seed in the NFC,
35:25
Speaker 2: and he was the darling new candidate of the Chicago Bears.
35:29
Speaker 2: Eventually picked him, and now the Bears are in the playoffs,
35:32
Speaker 2: and this year Clint Kubiak is Ben Johnson. He's one
35:36
Speaker 2: of the few offensive minds with NFL experience in play
35:39
Speaker 2: calling that is available. It's a defensive minded coaching cycle.
35:43
Speaker 2: Now John Harbor getting fired by the Ravens, which is ridiculous,
35:46
Speaker 2: by the way. John Harbor is leader of men type
35:49
Speaker 2: of guy. But the Ravens fire him, and so now
35:52
Speaker 2: another defensive minded coaches on the market, Kevin Silpanski, go on.
35:57
Speaker 2: But the Ubiak has positioned himself as the alternative and
36:02
Speaker 2: the best one. So now he's got potentially five suitored
36:05
Speaker 2: potential suitors. The way this works the NFL rules is
36:09
Speaker 2: the team if your candidate is on a top seed,
36:13
Speaker 2: you can talk to him during the bye week of
36:15
Speaker 2: the Wildcard playoffs, which is right now. That window to
36:18
Speaker 2: talk to him began three days after their team's final game,
36:21
Speaker 2: which for the Seahawks was Tuesday because they played Saturday,
36:23
Speaker 2: so teams could start talking to Kubak yesterday, and then
36:28
Speaker 2: the Seahawks for a practical purpose, the Seahawks are meeting,
36:30
Speaker 2: practicing film study, talking to players the coaches today and tomorrow,
36:35
Speaker 2: and then they're off Friday, Saturday, Sunday, so I'd expect
36:38
Speaker 2: the interviews with Kubiak to happen Friday, Saturday, and Sunday
36:41
Speaker 2: when he's not actually doing his day job. And then
36:44
Speaker 2: you can't talk to Kubak again until if the Seahawks
36:48
Speaker 2: win the Division champion they're the Divisional round game, he
36:51
Speaker 2: won't be able to talk to Kubak until the day
36:53
Speaker 2: after the NFC title game, which is January twenty sixth,
36:56
Speaker 2: the week of the Super Bowl bye week. Win or
36:59
Speaker 2: lose thewks, he would become available to talk If they
37:03
Speaker 2: lose in the division round, then they can talk to
37:06
Speaker 2: him again January nineteenth.
37:08
Speaker 7: Gee, I mean, I'm all about people having lives outside
37:12
Speaker 7: of their jobs. I mean, you can only do so
37:14
Speaker 7: much and before it becomes you know, almost counterproductive as
37:18
Speaker 7: far as quality of your life goes. But that's said,
37:20
Speaker 7: I think that you know, the idea of preparing for
37:23
Speaker 7: your next game is highly important. I mean, we can
37:26
Speaker 7: go all the way to the college stuff, I mean
37:27
Speaker 7: Old miss with the lane kiff and exodus and then
37:30
Speaker 7: taking the coaches, but some can come back. I mean
37:32
Speaker 7: Oregon both coordinators have taken head coaching jobs. If you
37:35
Speaker 7: think that there isn't some sort of their preparation that
37:38
Speaker 7: gets taken away because they're also trying to wrap their
37:42
Speaker 7: head around, Oh, I have this other job or this
37:44
Speaker 7: other job opportunity in Kubiak situation, is there any part
37:48
Speaker 7: of where these two things can get in the way
37:51
Speaker 7: of one another. I mean, he's going to he didn't
37:53
Speaker 7: have a job anywhere else and so he's not going
37:55
Speaker 7: to be working on that job. But if he's working
37:58
Speaker 7: to get a job, is there any way that that
38:00
Speaker 7: could be taken away from his preparation for whoever they're
38:03
Speaker 7: going to be facing when they do get to play.
38:06
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and think about any of the times you've applied
38:09
Speaker 2: for any job in your life whether it's working at
38:11
Speaker 2: seven to eleven or was KGr or any job you've
38:15
Speaker 2: ever had anybody out there listening. You prepare for that interview, right.
38:20
Speaker 2: You do a little bit, at least at least a
38:22
Speaker 2: modicum of investigating the job, the company, the position, know
38:26
Speaker 2: a little bit about him, so you could talk intelligently. Yeah,
38:30
Speaker 2: that takes time, and he's got to do that. These
38:33
Speaker 2: interviews for head coaches especially, they come in and the
38:37
Speaker 2: team say, Okay, what would you do with our roster?
38:41
Speaker 2: How would you coach it in? What direction would you
38:43
Speaker 2: put him in? Well, you got to know about their roster.
38:45
Speaker 2: You got to know about their culture, you got to
38:46
Speaker 2: know about their GM, you got to know about their owner.
38:49
Speaker 2: You got to know about how they play and how
38:51
Speaker 2: they played up to this point. You got to have
38:52
Speaker 2: an opinion about why it's not working and why they
38:55
Speaker 2: fired their previous coach and how you're going to be different.
38:58
Speaker 2: You can't just wing that, especially a guy who's trying
39:01
Speaker 2: to be a first time head coach. You got to
39:03
Speaker 2: do a little bit of research. You got to actually try,
39:07
Speaker 2: or else the interview will be flop of where it
39:09
Speaker 2: gets around this very small league as far as hiring
39:13
Speaker 2: goes and they'll say, well, Kubiak wasn't prepared at all.
39:16
Speaker 2: So yes, absolutely, which is why at least the NFL
39:20
Speaker 2: tried to put some kind of guardrails in place and say, well,
39:22
Speaker 2: you can't do it during a game week. We'll let
39:24
Speaker 2: you do it during a bye week, but we're not
39:26
Speaker 2: gon let you do it during game week. What makes
39:29
Speaker 2: it not intrusive this week is because of McDonald's schedule
39:32
Speaker 2: with the team. As I mentioned, they're only doing football
39:34
Speaker 2: Wednesday and Thursday and the rest of the time they're off. Now,
39:37
Speaker 2: the coaches are preparing four different possible preliminary game plans
39:41
Speaker 2: at one time, depending on who they're going to play,
39:44
Speaker 2: but the players will be off, so at least Kubiak
39:46
Speaker 2: will have some more time starting Friday, Saturday Sunday, which
39:49
Speaker 2: is why I think they can interview them. But yes,
39:52
Speaker 2: to answer your question, he should be and the NFL
39:55
Speaker 2: intends for him to be completely left alone by this
39:58
Speaker 2: process beginning Sunday night into Monday when the game week
40:02
Speaker 2: begins for next week.
40:03
Speaker 1: Greg Bell is whether it's our Seahawks inside, and it's
40:06
Speaker 1: as if it's as if you're like reading my thoughts
40:09
Speaker 1: because I just can't stop staring at my phone, hoping
40:12
Speaker 1: seven to eleven calls me so that I can get
40:14
Speaker 1: out of this situation here. You know what I mean, Well,
40:17
Speaker 1: you making a nasty slurpy. I bet.
40:22
Speaker 2: You make a suicide scirpy where you put all the
40:24
Speaker 2: flavors together.
40:26
Speaker 7: Right, something about that. The other day somebody else called
40:28
Speaker 7: it the suicide. I called him the grave graveyards.
40:30
Speaker 1: Midwest guy, Greg Bellah, we call them suicides in the Midwest. Graveyards.
40:36
Speaker 2: We also, yeah, yeah, maybe, we also called chip chopped ham.
40:39
Speaker 2: And we also called.
40:42
Speaker 1: What do you call soda in Ohio? Was it because
40:45
Speaker 1: you do pop?
40:46
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, pop pops. It's not quite universal.
40:51
Speaker 1: Called it like coat, like a coke. Yeah, people to
40:55
Speaker 1: do that. We called it soda. And then my grandma
40:58
Speaker 1: called it sody or sody pop yeah, and then yeah,
41:01
Speaker 1: So just that is geographical, no question regional. All right, Greg,
41:06
Speaker 1: thank you, sir. We will talk more tomorrow round table.
41:10
Speaker 1: Laurrow Oh yeah, all right. There is our Seahawks insider
41:17
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41:19
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41:46
Speaker 1: about demand Williams Junior on Sports Radio ninety three point
41:50
Speaker 1: three kJ R f M. Just a bunch of bad
41:53
Speaker 1: bye week jokes, always long. That's what we're supposed to do. Yeah,
41:56
Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun, been having a lot
41:57
Speaker 1: of good time to do that. And yet here we
42:01
Speaker 1: got this monster story that pops up that makes a
42:04
Speaker 1: lot of UDUB fans, of not all of them very angry.
42:07
Speaker 1: Joining us now on the program is pretty much the
42:10
Speaker 1: face of Washington football, and that is David Softy Maller,
42:14
Speaker 1: our own softie, who joins us here on the program
42:16
Speaker 1: to give us the latest on demand Williams Junior this
42:19
Speaker 1: decision last night and of course his reaction to it.
42:23
Speaker 1: How did this hit you yesterday, Bud?
42:26
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's pretty shocked, man. I mean, guys, let's be honest.
42:30
Speaker 14: When you read a story one day about a player
42:33
Speaker 14: re signing an nil revenue share agreement with a college
42:37
Speaker 14: football team one day, you don't expect to read the
42:41
Speaker 14: next day that he's leaving the program, right. I mean
42:43
Speaker 14: that's not you know how these things go. I mean,
42:47
Speaker 14: guy announces he's coming back, and the next story is
42:49
Speaker 14: going to be he's helping Jet Fish recruit better players
42:52
Speaker 14: to make the football team around him better, not that
42:55
Speaker 14: he's leaving town. So this is completely backwards. Obviously, nobody
42:59
Speaker 14: saw is coming. And I'm talking to people last night
43:02
Speaker 14: that are supposedly close to de Mont Williams that should
43:06
Speaker 14: be in the know about what's happening with de Mont Williams,
43:10
Speaker 14: that have no idea what's going on with the Mon Williams.
43:12
Speaker 14: I think a lot of people were blindsided by this,
43:15
Speaker 14: including people that represent him. By the way, this sounds
43:20
Speaker 14: like something that was done behind the scenes with the family.
43:24
Speaker 14: I don't even know, honestly, what kind of role his
43:27
Speaker 14: agent played in this whole transaction here with LSU or
43:31
Speaker 14: any other program, or the decision to put him in
43:34
Speaker 14: the portal. Jetfish obviously never saw this coming. The guy
43:38
Speaker 14: just agreed to a new deal with a star quarterback
43:41
Speaker 14: on Friday for upwards of five million dollars and you know,
43:44
Speaker 14: revenue share and third party inil money with the folks
43:48
Speaker 14: over at Dogs Unleashed. So this took everybody by surprise.
43:52
Speaker 14: It's horrible timing for Washington. They got to go out
43:55
Speaker 14: now and scramble and either AA find an available transferred
43:59
Speaker 14: portal quarter back like a Sam Levitt or a Dylan
44:02
Speaker 14: Rayolo or a DJ Lagway or whoever they want, or guys,
44:07
Speaker 14: they have to go do the same thing to somebody
44:09
Speaker 14: else and go convince a kid who's under contract with
44:13
Speaker 14: a different team to leave that school and then deal
44:16
Speaker 14: with the legal fallout and potentially pay somebody's lawsuit off
44:20
Speaker 14: to get them away from the current situation they're in.
44:23
Speaker 14: So this is an example five, five and twenty of
44:27
Speaker 14: why college football needs a czar, why it needs oversight,
44:31
Speaker 14: why it needs a commissioner. Can you imagine in the
44:33
Speaker 14: NFL the Seahawks announcing one day they've signed the player.
44:37
Speaker 14: Three days later, the guy announces he's taken off to
44:39
Speaker 14: go play for the Falcons, and the Seahawks do their
44:42
Speaker 14: pants off and there's nothing they can do to keep
44:45
Speaker 14: the player from walking, but they can recoup a big.
44:47
Speaker 1: Bag of money.
44:47
Speaker 14: I mean, this is AF nine. It's total chaos, it's insane,
44:51
Speaker 14: and it's gott to stop.
44:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm with you, man, It's ugly for sure. And
44:56
Speaker 7: yet maybe this is the straw that breaks the camel's
44:58
Speaker 7: back and forces him to put some sort of guardrail
45:00
Speaker 7: besides the nerf guardrails.
45:02
Speaker 1: That they have up at this point.
45:04
Speaker 7: I mean, I would hope that just out of the integrity,
45:08
Speaker 7: and even though there's no integrity really in college sports
45:11
Speaker 7: right now, I would hope that they don't go out
45:13
Speaker 7: and want to play that game of taking somebody that's
45:15
Speaker 7: already under contract. And there's what four thousand plus guys
45:19
Speaker 7: in the in the transferporter, so there's some guys that
45:21
Speaker 7: are legitimately out there.
45:23
Speaker 10: Way more than that, way more than that.
45:25
Speaker 7: I mean, there's guys out there to be had, and
45:28
Speaker 7: you're gonna have to go play that game of paying
45:30
Speaker 7: somebody to get one of the big dogs in here.
45:33
Speaker 7: And so I mean, looking ahead, I don't necessarily know
45:38
Speaker 7: if there is anybody in particular, but is this just
45:40
Speaker 7: one of those you gotta go fill that spot and.
45:44
Speaker 1: You know, no, money. No money.
45:46
Speaker 7: No amount of money is too much money to make
45:47
Speaker 7: sure that you get one of the good ones.
45:50
Speaker 14: Yeah, I just look, I don't know what Washington's dealing
45:53
Speaker 14: with financially compared to other schools like LSU.
45:56
Speaker 10: I know that LSU, for example. Let's just parse this
45:59
Speaker 10: out for a second here.
46:01
Speaker 14: What LSU has done is not only offered to increase
46:04
Speaker 14: DeMont William's salary for next year I would assume significantly
46:09
Speaker 14: or he's not leaving Washington, And they've also found somebody
46:12
Speaker 14: to potentially take care of any damages that you dubb
46:16
Speaker 14: seeks in the Mont william is breaking his contract. I
46:19
Speaker 14: mean Demon Williams and his agent and his family, they're
46:23
Speaker 14: not paying for that. That's somebody from a different team,
46:25
Speaker 14: whether a booster or coming out of their kitty, whatever
46:28
Speaker 14: they decide to do, somebody's gonna have to cover DeMont
46:31
Speaker 14: William's salary, bucket and whatever damages you dubb goes after.
46:35
Speaker 14: And by the way, the damages that U dubb goes
46:37
Speaker 14: after might be significant. I mean, you guys got to
46:39
Speaker 14: remember here, this is not just Demon Williams and the
46:43
Speaker 14: and the opportunity loss with him as a player and
46:46
Speaker 14: a representative of the school next year. But this is
46:49
Speaker 14: gonna cost the Huskies a lot of money. There are
46:51
Speaker 14: season ticket holders that are pissed off about this, that
46:55
Speaker 14: are threatening to pull back money, stop making donations to Washington.
46:59
Speaker 14: This will have a ripple effect on how much people
47:02
Speaker 14: want to invest in the program because they're sick and tired.
47:06
Speaker 14: They're irritated beyond belief. You saw the story that came
47:09
Speaker 14: out yesterday. I have a prominent Colorado.
47:10
Speaker 10: Booster who said, you know, I'm done.
47:13
Speaker 14: I'm done giving money to players who have no loyalty
47:15
Speaker 14: to programs whatsoever. And I'm hearing from people last night.
47:18
Speaker 14: I'm hearing from people this morning that are longtime Husky
47:21
Speaker 14: season ticket holders that.
47:22
Speaker 1: Are pull them out.
47:24
Speaker 14: You know, why would they invest in a kid when
47:25
Speaker 14: the kid's gonna go develop himself at Washington for a
47:29
Speaker 14: year or two, and then the fruits of that development
47:32
Speaker 14: will be felt by a different program like LSU for
47:36
Speaker 14: DeMont Williams in year number three. This might force people
47:40
Speaker 14: to reconsider how and when and why they donate. You know,
47:44
Speaker 14: possibly instead of donating Bucky to help out high school players,
47:47
Speaker 14: they may save all their money for the transfer portal
47:50
Speaker 14: to get kids that will be here for a year
47:52
Speaker 14: as mercenaries that are already developed and can make an
47:56
Speaker 14: instant impact on the program. So I'm just really kind
47:59
Speaker 14: of curing and nervous in some ways at the same
48:01
Speaker 14: time to see how this plays out with the donors.
48:04
Speaker 14: And then, by the way, Chuck, I know.
48:06
Speaker 1: I'm rambling here for a second. Great.
48:07
Speaker 14: The other problem with last night is that this clown
48:10
Speaker 14: goes out and announces this during the memorial service for
48:13
Speaker 14: me A. Hammond over at UDUB And don't you think
48:16
Speaker 14: for one second this bum did not know that that
48:19
Speaker 14: was happening at Washington. The entire football team was there
48:23
Speaker 14: in the arena. Jetfish was there, assistant coaches were there.
48:27
Speaker 14: There was multiple communications that were sent out during the
48:31
Speaker 14: day reminding players of this event that was happening last night.
48:35
Speaker 14: And this scumbag decides last night to put this methage
48:38
Speaker 14: out on Instagram, making it all about him that he's
48:42
Speaker 14: entering the transfer portal during me A. Hambred's memorial service
48:46
Speaker 14: last night. Just a colossal prick and a complete pr
48:50
Speaker 14: disaster by him and his representatives.
48:53
Speaker 1: All right, man, well we know you've got a very
48:56
Speaker 1: busy day. Thanks for coming on with us sharing what
48:59
Speaker 1: you know. We appreciate it and can't wait to listen
49:01
Speaker 1: at three o'clock today.
49:03
Speaker 14: All right, man, good stuff, and look forward to hassleback today.
49:07
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, eight o'clock, eight o'clock, all right, there
49:10
Speaker 1: is Sophie joining us here this morning, of course, obviously
49:14
Speaker 1: emotionally charged and also professionally challenged to try to get
49:19
Speaker 1: to the bottom of this as well, and he does
49:22
Speaker 1: that as well as anybody, so we appreciate him popping on.
49:25
Speaker 1: We'll of course talk more about the Demon Williams junior situation.
49:28
Speaker 1: And yes, we will have Matt hasselback on. He's joined
49:31
Speaker 1: the team for the playoffs. He's our Ryan heay if
49:33
Speaker 1: you will for the national you know what we did
49:35
Speaker 1: for the Mariners postseason run, but he's going to do
49:39
Speaker 1: it for the Seahawks with us every Wednesday at eight
49:41
Speaker 1: o'clock and we'll get to chat with him for the
49:43
Speaker 1: first time this morning at eight, so we'll be doing
49:46
Speaker 1: that on the program. But coming up next something that
49:49
Speaker 1: we do every Wednesday, and I will stay on this
49:51
Speaker 1: college football topic. It's Reckless at Breakfast on Sports Radio
49:55
Speaker 1: ninety three point three KHRFM. What Good Wednesday morning to you.
50:11
Speaker 1: It's Chuck a Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three
50:14
Speaker 1: k JRFM. The usual suspects are here, Ashley Ryan is here.
50:18
Speaker 1: Former Mariner Bucky Jacobs said, my name is Chuck Powell,
50:21
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50:24
Speaker 1: morning right here on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
50:28
Speaker 1: A lot to discuss today, including the Seahawks playoff, immediate future,
50:34
Speaker 1: and man, do we have a treat for you. He's
50:37
Speaker 1: going to be joining us every Wednesday throughout the playoffs.
50:41
Speaker 1: For some of you, he's your Seahawk quarterback out there.
50:45
Speaker 1: He's certainly Mike Holmgren's favorite quarterback of all time. Joining
50:49
Speaker 1: us now on the program is Matt Hasselbeck here on
50:53
Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck.
50:53
Speaker 5: How are you, Matt, Hey, good morning.
50:56
Speaker 8: I appreciate that intro, but I feel like Mike Hongrian
50:59
Speaker 8: has a Joe Man tanna like I worked with like
51:01
Speaker 8: like favorite thing, like when I worked with Steve Young
51:04
Speaker 8: for a long time, I played with Brett Favre, and
51:07
Speaker 8: both those guys would tell you like you feel like
51:10
Speaker 8: when you get coached by Mike Congrid, like there's never
51:13
Speaker 8: going to be a time when you could live up
51:14
Speaker 8: to Joe, you know, like Brett farm There, NFL MVPs,
51:18
Speaker 8: Steve Young, Hall of Famer, but like it's a well,
51:20
Speaker 8: Joe would do it this way.
51:22
Speaker 5: Hey, you know when we call this play, you know
51:24
Speaker 5: Joe Montana would do it this way.
51:25
Speaker 8: So when Jim Zorn and I would try to put
51:27
Speaker 8: in a new play, we would name it Montana or
51:31
Speaker 8: Joe because we knew like Mike would probably like the play.
51:34
Speaker 5: Just because.
51:36
Speaker 1: That does explain good. That does explain on Monday mornings
51:39
Speaker 1: when he comes in here with his I Love Joe
51:41
Speaker 1: Montana t shirt on every.
51:43
Speaker 8: I would believe it. I really would, and I can't
51:46
Speaker 8: blame him. I mean they had to run together, so
51:49
Speaker 8: pretty cool.
51:50
Speaker 1: Well, it's great to have you with us. So we're
51:53
Speaker 1: excited to have you for the next few wednesdays throughout
51:56
Speaker 1: this Sea Hawk playoff, and I know a lot of
51:58
Speaker 1: our listeners are as well. By the way, just to
52:00
Speaker 1: just to mention, like I think Bucky when he was
52:04
Speaker 1: a media darling as a baseball player, the Paul Bunyan
52:08
Speaker 1: of the Mariners was happening while you were the Sea
52:10
Speaker 1: all quarterback. Did you get swept up in the Bucky
52:12
Speaker 1: Jacobson phenomenon that was hitting home runs out there at
52:15
Speaker 1: the at the ball at the ball field.
52:19
Speaker 8: You know, we weren't good when I first got to Seattle,
52:21
Speaker 8: and the Mariners were so good that it made it
52:23
Speaker 8: even harder for us to like not have our games
52:26
Speaker 8: blacked out and all that stuff, and and uh, you know,
52:29
Speaker 8: there was quite a quite a run there. I mean
52:31
Speaker 8: there was like records being set across the street. And
52:35
Speaker 8: then we were just like trying, you know, trying to
52:37
Speaker 8: build something. My first year we actually at Husky Stadium,
52:40
Speaker 8: and so it was you know, even U Doub was
52:42
Speaker 8: really good at that point, and and again we weren't.
52:45
Speaker 8: So I think the Sonics were a thing still. I
52:48
Speaker 8: mean it's like almost like a different lifetime ago now,
52:50
Speaker 8: but really cool. The camaraderie in the brotherhood and you know,
52:54
Speaker 8: like brother and sisterhood. I think in the city now
52:57
Speaker 8: with the sports and the athletes, it's it's pretty neat.
52:59
Speaker 7: Well, Matt, just for what it's worth, they were really
53:02
Speaker 7: good before I got there. I was part of when
53:06
Speaker 7: they turned south and then basically all the attention went
53:10
Speaker 7: to you guys, and then you guys went to the
53:12
Speaker 7: Super Bowl and basically it hasn't turned back.
53:16
Speaker 8: You guys, let all the good players go. I mean,
53:18
Speaker 8: that's kind of what happens.
53:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then you had to fill Then
53:22
Speaker 1: I had to fill it right right exactly, Matt Hasselbeck
53:25
Speaker 1: with us, all right, well, let's talk some Seahawks football.
53:29
Speaker 1: I want to start with this. I just want to
53:31
Speaker 1: come right out of the gates with it. When I
53:33
Speaker 1: say Sam Darnald led the National Football League this year
53:38
Speaker 1: in turnovers on a fourteen and three football team that
53:43
Speaker 1: has a one seed heading into the playoffs, what is
53:46
Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck's reaction to that.
53:50
Speaker 8: It's not great, But at the same time, it's turnover ratio,
53:54
Speaker 8: you know, like so it's offense and defense together and
53:57
Speaker 8: so like I think turnover ratio is the stats it's
54:00
Speaker 8: most important for the season for the team.
54:03
Speaker 5: And then the other thing.
54:03
Speaker 8: I would say is, like I remember one of our
54:05
Speaker 8: big rivals was the greatest show on turf, the Kurt
54:08
Speaker 8: Warner Saint Louis Rams like that era, and Kurt Warner
54:12
Speaker 8: was turning the ball over a ton two at that
54:14
Speaker 8: time fumbles, interceptions. The different the thing was he was
54:17
Speaker 8: also cutting it loose and just kind of dominating offensively,
54:20
Speaker 8: and I think you've seen some of that out of
54:22
Speaker 8: Sam Darnold and the Seahawks jsns the number one receiver
54:25
Speaker 8: in the league, and you know, I think Sam's just
54:28
Speaker 8: kind of been clutch, you know, even this last game,
54:31
Speaker 8: you know, no turnovers, So I think he's getting better.
54:34
Speaker 8: And also like just some huge third down conversions of
54:37
Speaker 8: third and two with third and ten to guys like
54:40
Speaker 8: Cooper Cup AJ Barner. So like I don't have that
54:43
Speaker 8: much concern for because of like the wholeness of it.
54:47
Speaker 8: But clearly, I mean, obviously that's that's something that you
54:50
Speaker 8: want to try to manage.
54:52
Speaker 7: The turnover thing, well, obviously you're not wanting to turn
54:55
Speaker 7: the ball over. And yet I mean you can explain
54:57
Speaker 7: better than with Chuck or I or Ash you could
55:00
Speaker 7: for sure how difficult it is is it to walk
55:03
Speaker 7: that thin line of I want to push the ball
55:06
Speaker 7: down the field. We've seen this team they like to
55:07
Speaker 7: hand the ball off and try to establish ru and
55:09
Speaker 7: make you respect the run to some degree, and then
55:12
Speaker 7: taking shots and using the passing game off of that.
55:14
Speaker 7: It makes sense, and it's worked to the point of
55:17
Speaker 7: getting the first round by and being the number one
55:19
Speaker 7: seed in the NFC. But the idea of Okay, you
55:21
Speaker 7: don't want to hamstring your guy, you don't want to
55:23
Speaker 7: clip his wings, but hey, no more turnovers because then
55:26
Speaker 7: maybe he's not trying to fit it in some of
55:27
Speaker 7: those mailboxes that turn into touchdowns and points down the field.
55:32
Speaker 7: So how hard is it as a quarterback to not
55:35
Speaker 7: get scared of the turnover because of what you maybe
55:39
Speaker 7: hear from the outside world. And yet at the same time, yeah,
55:42
Speaker 7: you're trying to clean that part of the game up.
55:44
Speaker 1: Yeah.
55:45
Speaker 8: At the end of my Seahawks career, I was thirty
55:47
Speaker 8: five years old, Pete Carroll came in as the head coach.
55:49
Speaker 8: His whole thing was all about the ball, no turnovers,
55:52
Speaker 8: and that was his whole thing to me, Just don't
55:53
Speaker 8: turn it over. Just don't turn it over. I turned
55:55
Speaker 8: the ball over more than I had ever turned it
55:57
Speaker 8: over in my life because you know, kind of like that,
56:00
Speaker 8: you know, if you're on the golf course, you're on
56:01
Speaker 8: the putting green, hey, don't leave your putt short. Like now,
56:04
Speaker 8: I don't know why, like people leave their puts short,
56:07
Speaker 8: you know, like, and so I was playing kind of defensive,
56:09
Speaker 8: like not to screw it up.
56:11
Speaker 1: You know my.
56:12
Speaker 8: Quarterback coach at the time ironically was Jed Fish, Who's
56:14
Speaker 8: that you dub now? And he said, you know you're
56:16
Speaker 8: playing quarterback not to turn the ball over. It reminds
56:19
Speaker 8: me of a teenager at Driver's ed, you know, ten
56:23
Speaker 8: and two, afraid to screw up on the road, versus
56:26
Speaker 8: how I see you drive. You drive like a like
56:29
Speaker 8: a kid from Boston who's got.
56:30
Speaker 5: Like one hand on the wheel.
56:32
Speaker 8: Cutting it loose, aggressive, you know, it's almost the safer
56:35
Speaker 8: way to drive. It's the safer way to play quarterback.
56:38
Speaker 8: Every throw, throw it with conviction or don't throw it.
56:41
Speaker 8: And so I think there's like a mindset flip where
56:44
Speaker 8: on offense, as a quarterback you have to still be aggressive.
56:48
Speaker 5: You have to.
56:48
Speaker 8: Cut it loose with full confidence and have no fear,
56:52
Speaker 8: and yet at the same time you have to respect
56:54
Speaker 8: the team enough to feel like this ball doesn't belong
56:58
Speaker 8: with to me, like I get to I'm trusted with it,
57:00
Speaker 8: but it's not mine.
57:01
Speaker 5: It belongs to all of us.
57:03
Speaker 8: And if I don't have something great there, if I
57:05
Speaker 8: don't want to cut it loose, I don't feel good
57:07
Speaker 8: about it, then let our punter punt, let our defense
57:10
Speaker 8: have a long field, like that's the mindset of like
57:13
Speaker 8: how to be a great teammate. Let our punter punt
57:16
Speaker 8: was something that was on the board for most of
57:18
Speaker 8: my career, and it wasn't there that year with Pete Carroll.
57:22
Speaker 8: It was it's all about the ball, don't turn it over.
57:24
Speaker 8: And I think that let our punter punt or let
57:27
Speaker 8: our field goal kicker kick. You know, that's a little
57:31
Speaker 8: bit more of an aggressive mindset that I don't think
57:34
Speaker 8: puts the training wheels on, and I think that's a
57:36
Speaker 8: better way to think about it.
57:37
Speaker 1: Former Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck is with us here his
57:41
Speaker 1: first installment. We're gonna have him every Wednesday. We're really
57:44
Speaker 1: excited about it throughout the Seahawks playoffs, and this is
57:47
Speaker 1: our first conversation with number eight right here on Chuck
57:51
Speaker 1: and Buck in the mornings. So just to I mean,
57:54
Speaker 1: there are other things to discuss with this football team,
57:57
Speaker 1: but keeping that entire roster mind, how great they play defense,
58:02
Speaker 1: the clear cut wide receiver won that every NFL team wants,
58:08
Speaker 1: a heck of a coaching staff. All of that coming together,
58:12
Speaker 1: Sam seems to be the question mark when you think
58:15
Speaker 1: of the entire roster. Matt does Sam Darnold, in your opinion,
58:19
Speaker 1: get in the way of this team winning a Super
58:21
Speaker 1: Bowl this year.
58:23
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so at all.
58:25
Speaker 8: And I think he's you know, he's got that reputation
58:27
Speaker 8: nationally where people doubt him still, But no, I think
58:31
Speaker 8: his body of work if you look at last year
58:33
Speaker 8: and this year and you sort of forget maybe his
58:36
Speaker 8: rookie year in New York, and you just look at
58:39
Speaker 8: the like when we studied film when I was playing,
58:41
Speaker 8: it was always nameless faces, you know, so it would
58:44
Speaker 8: be like number fourteen for Seattle.
58:46
Speaker 5: We're not putting a name with Fitz so you don't
58:48
Speaker 5: get it clouded.
58:49
Speaker 8: You know, like a lot of times when I'd be
58:51
Speaker 8: going up against the defensive back in my career late
58:54
Speaker 8: in their career, you know, Like I'll use Champ Bailey
58:57
Speaker 8: as an example.
58:58
Speaker 5: Champ Bailey is one of the best dbs I went against.
59:01
Speaker 8: But when I was playing with Andrew Luck in the
59:03
Speaker 8: Indianapolis Colts, we were playing them in the playoffs. Our
59:05
Speaker 8: whole game plan was to double move twenty four. We're
59:08
Speaker 8: going at twenty four. You know, he can't run with
59:11
Speaker 8: t Y Hilton. He can't run with he can't you know,
59:14
Speaker 8: double move with Reggie Wayne. Like that was the mindset
59:17
Speaker 8: that we had, and that was the game plan going
59:19
Speaker 8: into that playoff game. But we would never have said that, like, oh,
59:22
Speaker 8: we're going to attack Champ Bailey Hall of Famer, Like
59:25
Speaker 8: it just it feels weird. In a similar way, I
59:28
Speaker 8: think people do that, you know, to Sam Donald, be like, oh,
59:31
Speaker 8: Sam Donald, you know he's not you know, the big names.
59:34
Speaker 8: We know he's not Lamar. You know, like he played
59:37
Speaker 8: better football than Lamar this year. He played better football
59:39
Speaker 8: than Patrick Mahomes, you know, So you know, I think
59:43
Speaker 8: that's part of it. And I think like even this
59:45
Speaker 8: last game, he didn't throw for two hundred yards, but
59:47
Speaker 8: he also didn't turn the ball over. He put the
59:50
Speaker 8: team in a position to win. He leaned on the defense,
59:53
Speaker 8: and like I said earlier, he was incredibly efficient on
59:57
Speaker 8: the third downs when those opportunities were needed at the
1:00:00
Speaker 8: end of the game.
1:00:02
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think a lot we end up
1:00:04
Speaker 7: talking this time of year about teams getting hot at
1:00:06
Speaker 7: the right time. Are you feeling like the Seahawks are
1:00:08
Speaker 7: getting hot at the right time all around, not just offensively,
1:00:11
Speaker 7: but just as a squad and how much truth is
1:00:15
Speaker 7: there in that when you get to this point in
1:00:17
Speaker 7: the season feeling like you're playing your best football.
1:00:21
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I don't think this is I don't think
1:00:23
Speaker 8: they're hot right now. I think the defense is hot.
1:00:25
Speaker 8: Like that was a dom that was maybe the most
1:00:27
Speaker 8: dominant performance I saw any team all year. What they
1:00:30
Speaker 8: did to the Niners a hot you know, a really
1:00:32
Speaker 8: hot Niners offense. Really that the defense was hot. But
1:00:36
Speaker 8: I still have confidence in special teams. I think they'll
1:00:39
Speaker 8: they'll have you know, the season that they had was
1:00:41
Speaker 8: a good season. This last game wasn't their best game offensively.
1:00:45
Speaker 8: You know, there were some things to clean up offensively.
1:00:47
Speaker 8: I think the team that's hottest in the NFL right
1:00:49
Speaker 8: now is Jacksonville. But the Seahawks. What they have going
1:00:53
Speaker 8: for them is they have a buye, which is incredibly important.
1:00:57
Speaker 8: I can't tell you how important that is, especially for
1:00:59
Speaker 8: the trenches.
1:01:00
Speaker 5: And I think as this.
1:01:01
Speaker 8: Team goes, it'll be the you know, I think the
1:01:05
Speaker 8: engine of this team is that front four. Guys like
1:01:08
Speaker 8: Leonard Williams, Guys like Byron Murphy, guys like DeMarcus Lawrence.
1:01:11
Speaker 8: Like that's the you know, we need those guys healthy,
1:01:15
Speaker 8: and then we need the guys up front, the Gray'sabels,
1:01:17
Speaker 8: the Charles Crosses, the Sundal, those guys to be healthy upfront.
1:01:21
Speaker 8: If we can win in the trenches, the skill guys
1:01:24
Speaker 8: and the back end defensively, and then Sam and the
1:01:27
Speaker 8: rest of those guys, the committee at running back, we're
1:01:30
Speaker 8: good to go.
1:01:31
Speaker 5: Like we can get hot.
1:01:32
Speaker 8: I believe in the coaching staff this, I mean, this
1:01:35
Speaker 8: really could be their year, which is which is incredibly exciting.
1:01:38
Speaker 8: And and and you get to sit home and figure
1:01:41
Speaker 8: out who you play next.
1:01:42
Speaker 1: If you're wondering. Yeah, that's the voice of Matt Hasselbeck
1:01:45
Speaker 1: joining us right here this morning on Chuck and Buck
1:01:47
Speaker 1: in the morning. We're gonna use him as our Seahawks
1:01:50
Speaker 1: playoff analyst to hear, and we're very excited about that
1:01:54
Speaker 1: fact here starting today in our eight o'clock hour, When
1:01:59
Speaker 1: you see my Mike McDonald's defense, and I'm sure that
1:02:02
Speaker 1: you still, even though you're a few your ears removed,
1:02:05
Speaker 1: you still think about, how would I go up against that?
1:02:08
Speaker 1: I mean, what would you compare it to? Is it incomparable? What?
1:02:12
Speaker 1: What does Mike McDonald's defense stand? What stands out about it?
1:02:16
Speaker 8: To you, Well, I think the thing that this defense
1:02:19
Speaker 8: does best is they're able to get a pass rush
1:02:22
Speaker 8: with four. And you know, that's why all these people
1:02:24
Speaker 8: spend so much money on the front four. It makes
1:02:26
Speaker 8: everybody in the back, the back seven better and so
1:02:29
Speaker 8: the front four does such a great job in pass
1:02:31
Speaker 8: rush and stopping the run and helping the guys behind
1:02:34
Speaker 8: them in the run, and so like that's that's the
1:02:36
Speaker 8: best thing that they do. However, you know, I think
1:02:39
Speaker 8: Mike McDonald's kind of the Sean McVay of defense. He's
1:02:42
Speaker 8: very creative, he's got great blitz schemes. He doesn't try
1:02:47
Speaker 8: to get too cute with it, but he's also like
1:02:49
Speaker 8: he's got Nicki min Warri who can do it all.
1:02:51
Speaker 8: Can may be like a safety, a cover guy, a linebacker,
1:02:54
Speaker 8: and he's like, hey, let's try this, let's try that.
1:02:57
Speaker 8: And so I think the dbs on the back end
1:02:59
Speaker 8: are goodl as well. So you know, I think that's
1:03:02
Speaker 8: probably the thing that excites me the most. And in
1:03:04
Speaker 8: my career, the thing that was hardest for me as
1:03:07
Speaker 8: a quarterback by far is if you're just rushing four
1:03:12
Speaker 8: and I have to leave in extra people to help
1:03:14
Speaker 8: my five offensive linemen. That's like, no brain, no, not good, Like,
1:03:18
Speaker 8: that's that's not the world we want to be living in.
1:03:21
Speaker 8: And that's that's what I think the Seahawks really have
1:03:24
Speaker 8: going for him right now.
1:03:25
Speaker 1: Matt.
1:03:25
Speaker 7: Is there a thing that you see when you're watching
1:03:28
Speaker 7: this defense that's complicated when you start to saying, you know,
1:03:31
Speaker 7: he's the Sean McVay of defense. Well, Sean McVay was
1:03:35
Speaker 7: doing some things that were different than back when you played,
1:03:38
Speaker 7: and it just kind of very creative in some of
1:03:40
Speaker 7: the ways in which he did. We have Hugh Millen
1:03:42
Speaker 7: on former quarterback, I'm sure you know who he is.
1:03:44
Speaker 7: He we have him on all season long, uh, and
1:03:48
Speaker 7: he was talking about some of the complexities of the
1:03:51
Speaker 7: defense where the pre snap read that you would get
1:03:53
Speaker 7: as a quarterback changes right after you snap the ball,
1:03:57
Speaker 7: and yet at times how complicated is this guy goes
1:04:00
Speaker 7: all the way over here, this guy goes and he's
1:04:03
Speaker 7: covering this guy that there's avenues that are end up
1:04:06
Speaker 7: being open while they're moving into those different spots. Do
1:04:10
Speaker 7: you see where there could be a kryptonite to this
1:04:14
Speaker 7: this could you know, very complicated or creative defense that
1:04:18
Speaker 7: we're watching him master right now.
1:04:21
Speaker 8: Yeah, well number one, sometimes it's not complicated and they
1:04:25
Speaker 8: just do it really well. You know, Like there's a
1:04:27
Speaker 8: saying that some defenses have and it's a do less better,
1:04:30
Speaker 8: you know, like we'll just we'll just do it better,
1:04:32
Speaker 8: you know, you know what we're going to be in Like, yeah,
1:04:33
Speaker 8: we're just we've had more talent. I think the Legion
1:04:36
Speaker 8: of Boom was that way. It wasn't like a confusing thing.
1:04:38
Speaker 8: It just so they had great length on the outside
1:04:40
Speaker 8: and size, they had great speed at free safety with
1:04:44
Speaker 8: Earl Thomas, and they had just you know, Cam Chancellor
1:04:47
Speaker 8: was kind of the nick even worri He was like,
1:04:50
Speaker 8: I don't even know the unicorns.
1:04:51
Speaker 5: No one else like him. Yeah, you know, so there's
1:04:53
Speaker 5: some of that.
1:04:54
Speaker 8: No, I think there's not really a glaring weakness on
1:04:57
Speaker 8: this defense. I think there is probably one corn that
1:05:00
Speaker 8: gets tried a little harder than other other guys, you know,
1:05:04
Speaker 8: and it's not spoon, you know, not to throw shade
1:05:06
Speaker 8: at anybody, but like that's just what happens when you
1:05:08
Speaker 8: play opposite of a Pro Bowl corner.
1:05:10
Speaker 5: So there's gonna be some of that.
1:05:12
Speaker 8: But you know, I think I think globally, what's hard
1:05:15
Speaker 8: for a offensive coordinator going against the Seahawks. Is that
1:05:19
Speaker 8: you know, people will say, oh, it's nickel, you know,
1:05:21
Speaker 8: it's nickel defense or dime defense. Well, like, who you know?
1:05:24
Speaker 8: Nickel defense means there's five dbs nickel five DB's in
1:05:27
Speaker 8: the game. Yeah, but which five you know? And like
1:05:30
Speaker 8: that's the thing that changes. Is it big nickel, is
1:05:33
Speaker 8: it small nickel?
1:05:33
Speaker 5: Is it?
1:05:34
Speaker 8: Is it like the variations of the amount of guys
1:05:37
Speaker 8: that play. It's not just eleven guys, And so when
1:05:40
Speaker 8: you're doing your analytics or your game plan, it's a
1:05:43
Speaker 8: little there's like a layer to it that the Seahawks
1:05:46
Speaker 8: have that that that other defenses don't have. It's it's
1:05:49
Speaker 8: a little more complicated.
1:05:51
Speaker 1: Former Seahawks quarterback Matt hasselback with us here on Chuck
1:05:54
Speaker 1: and Buck. Did you need a running game in order
1:05:57
Speaker 1: to be successful? I mean, this team has run the
1:05:59
Speaker 1: ball all but they haven't always been effective running the ball.
1:06:02
Speaker 1: They're coming off their most effective performance running the football.
1:06:06
Speaker 1: Do you believe they need that to be effective in
1:06:09
Speaker 1: the postseason in order to be ultimately successful? Yeah.
1:06:13
Speaker 8: Well, Mike Congreen would talk about sometimes some years he's like, hey,
1:06:16
Speaker 8: I want to use the pass to set up the run,
1:06:18
Speaker 8: you know, and a lot of times when you listen
1:06:20
Speaker 8: to TV commentators, they say, oh, you need to run
1:06:22
Speaker 8: the run the ball, and then the box gets light
1:06:24
Speaker 8: and then you know all this and like, I think
1:06:27
Speaker 8: it's both. You know, you got to be able to
1:06:29
Speaker 8: run it when they know you're going to run it.
1:06:31
Speaker 8: And I think that's one thing that the Seahawks have done.
1:06:33
Speaker 8: When it's game on the line, five minutes to go
1:06:35
Speaker 8: in the game, we need to close out the game
1:06:38
Speaker 8: and run the football. We have a couple plays that
1:06:40
Speaker 8: are bread and butter plays full back in the game,
1:06:43
Speaker 8: in the game and we can we're going to run
1:06:45
Speaker 8: this play. But no, I think that's an area that's
1:06:47
Speaker 8: been a work in progress this year. But you've also
1:06:50
Speaker 8: seen the Seahawks be incredibly successful at running the ball
1:06:54
Speaker 8: in spread out formation. So like third and seventeen last week,
1:06:58
Speaker 8: third and fifteen another I think the Seahawks have four
1:07:01
Speaker 8: third and fifteen run plays that ended up his first downs.
1:07:05
Speaker 8: And to me, that that just comes back to not
1:07:08
Speaker 8: offensive line, that comes back to wide receivers blocking in
1:07:12
Speaker 8: the running game, and we have these like kind of.
1:07:14
Speaker 5: Fast Rashid Shaheed.
1:07:17
Speaker 8: JSN types and so like does that always that doesn't
1:07:21
Speaker 8: scream to me, like Joe j ravishis blocking on the edge.
1:07:24
Speaker 5: It just doesn't.
1:07:25
Speaker 8: But you do also have guys like Bobo, you had
1:07:28
Speaker 8: Derek Young for a while, Cooper Cup does a great
1:07:30
Speaker 8: job blocking. And to the credit of those speedsters Shaheed
1:07:34
Speaker 8: and JSN, they put their nose in there a little
1:07:37
Speaker 8: bit in blockdown field. So I think that, you know,
1:07:40
Speaker 8: it's a team effort there, and you know, would you
1:07:44
Speaker 8: love to be able to just like, you know, run it,
1:07:46
Speaker 8: run it, run it, run it. Sure, but I think
1:07:47
Speaker 8: they do such a good job with the play action
1:07:49
Speaker 8: that I think some of those play action plays for
1:07:52
Speaker 8: the lineman can feel like a run.
1:07:54
Speaker 1: Matt.
1:07:54
Speaker 7: What's the one team that if you're a Seahawks fan
1:07:58
Speaker 7: you wouldn't want to see in the divisional round?
1:08:02
Speaker 5: It's the Rams. I don't want to see him ever.
1:08:04
Speaker 8: You know, like the super Bowl in theory is the
1:08:05
Speaker 8: best team from the NFC versus the best team from
1:08:07
Speaker 8: the AFC, and those are the two best teams.
1:08:09
Speaker 5: In football, and like that's the super Bowl. But like
1:08:12
Speaker 5: I say, garbage to that.
1:08:13
Speaker 8: The two best teams in football this year are the
1:08:16
Speaker 8: LA Rams and the Seattle Seahawks, and they'll play each
1:08:19
Speaker 8: other maybe for a third time this year.
1:08:21
Speaker 5: So like, to me, that's the that's the team.
1:08:24
Speaker 8: You know, no disrespect to the Broncos or the Jaguars, or.
1:08:28
Speaker 5: The Bills or the Patriots.
1:08:30
Speaker 8: They're like, I'm sorry that this NFC West was a
1:08:33
Speaker 8: strong division this year. In the Rams probably have the
1:08:36
Speaker 8: MVP at quarterback. And you know, some people would say
1:08:39
Speaker 8: have the best team in football even though we're the
1:08:41
Speaker 8: one seed. So and that was a crazy matchup in
1:08:43
Speaker 8: the last one. So to me, that's the toughest game.
1:08:46
Speaker 8: That's the toughest team, and you're gonna probably have to
1:08:49
Speaker 8: beat them, you know, meet them and beat them one
1:08:52
Speaker 8: more time if you want to accomplish your goals.
1:08:53
Speaker 1: In Hoysta Lombardi, I'm sure there are a lot of
1:08:56
Speaker 1: former football players, a lot of cities that claim that
1:09:00
Speaker 1: our home field advantage is unlike anyone else's home field advantage.
1:09:04
Speaker 1: You lived the famous home field advantage of being a
1:09:07
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawk. What does it mean to have it through
1:09:10
Speaker 1: the whole playoffs?
1:09:12
Speaker 8: Well, it's it's biggest to the defense and to the
1:09:15
Speaker 8: pass rushers in particular. The guys on the edge because
1:09:18
Speaker 8: the further you are away from the ball as an
1:09:20
Speaker 8: offensive lineman.
1:09:21
Speaker 5: A tight end, a tackle like that, that kind of
1:09:24
Speaker 5: spot you have to see in your peripheral vision and
1:09:27
Speaker 5: wo sue or.
1:09:29
Speaker 1: Oh we had a freeze, We had a first freeze.
1:09:31
Speaker 1: Oh he was really he was really rolling too. Hmm.
1:09:34
Speaker 1: I don't know if you detected it, but I thought
1:09:36
Speaker 1: he was really on a roll there. He was getting
1:09:37
Speaker 1: ready to rock and roll for us. Oh, there he is,
1:09:41
Speaker 1: He's all right. I think we got a back. We
1:09:43
Speaker 1: lost it for a little bit. You were talking about
1:09:45
Speaker 1: how the home field advantage. You said it was difficult
1:09:49
Speaker 1: the further you get away from the ball. That's where
1:09:52
Speaker 1: I think we lost you.
1:09:53
Speaker 8: Yeah, sorry about that. We got a snowstorm here in Boston.
1:09:56
Speaker 8: But it's basically the peripheral vision for those tackles. They
1:09:59
Speaker 8: have to see the silent count of the center and
1:10:01
Speaker 8: also see the defensive end who's lined up three yards
1:10:04
Speaker 8: outside of me, or a nickel coming off the slot.
1:10:06
Speaker 5: It's very, very difficult.
1:10:08
Speaker 8: So that crowd noise, when intentional like they've had in
1:10:11
Speaker 8: Seattle for a long time, is an incredible home field advantage.
1:10:14
Speaker 8: It psikes out quarterbacks, It psikes out lineman and it
1:10:17
Speaker 8: psikes out offensive coordinators.
1:10:19
Speaker 1: All right, well, we're very excited to have you here
1:10:22
Speaker 1: for the next few weeks, all the way hopefully all
1:10:24
Speaker 1: the way through the Super Bowl. So we were very
1:10:27
Speaker 1: pumped to find out that we were able to put
1:10:29
Speaker 1: this together. And I could wait a couple of weeks
1:10:32
Speaker 1: till we get to know each other better. But I
1:10:34
Speaker 1: can't wait to ask you when you said we want
1:10:36
Speaker 1: the ball and we're gonna score. What did our friend
1:10:39
Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren say to you when you came off the field.
1:10:42
Speaker 8: I couldn't tell if he was mad at me or
1:10:44
Speaker 8: proud of me. You know, it was like somewhere wait,
1:10:46
Speaker 8: but a true story that happened. When that happened, no
1:10:49
Speaker 8: one really knew on the field, like you could kind
1:10:52
Speaker 8: of here if i'd have gotten picked up in the
1:10:54
Speaker 8: stadium sort of like it was like murmuring as they
1:10:57
Speaker 8: came back and I came back to the sideline and
1:10:59
Speaker 8: he said something like what did you just do?
1:11:01
Speaker 5: You know? It was like did something just happen out there?
1:11:03
Speaker 8: Like because he's got the headset on and it was
1:11:05
Speaker 8: freezing cold, and I was like, you know, like what
1:11:08
Speaker 8: you know, like there's no way he'll ever find out
1:11:10
Speaker 8: what I just did, you know, and clearly everyone at
1:11:13
Speaker 8: home new.
1:11:14
Speaker 1: But I'm in the moment.
1:11:16
Speaker 8: And then you know, side note on that, don't regret
1:11:18
Speaker 8: it at all, Like would do it again, just would
1:11:21
Speaker 8: probably change the change the route or the decision or
1:11:24
Speaker 8: the throw or whatever you know with Al Harris. But
1:11:28
Speaker 8: credit to Al Harris. He's the DB's coach in Chicago
1:11:31
Speaker 8: right now. His DB's are still jumping routes. That hasn't changed.
1:11:35
Speaker 8: Everywhere he goes, they jump routes. So if you're playing
1:11:39
Speaker 8: the Bears in the playoffs this year, double move Al
1:11:42
Speaker 8: Harris's corners. That's that's take it from me, you know.
1:11:47
Speaker 8: And Aaron Rodgers, you know, he saw he believes in
1:11:49
Speaker 8: that too. He had a big one. But I'm looking
1:11:51
Speaker 8: forward to the playoffs. I'm excited the Seahawks are in it.
1:11:54
Speaker 8: I'm excited to join you guys hopefully for a bunch
1:11:56
Speaker 8: of Wednesdays as these guys keep it rolling. The one
1:11:59
Speaker 8: seed is so huge. I'm so proud and a lot
1:12:01
Speaker 8: of the guys that played for the Seahawks, like me,
1:12:03
Speaker 8: we have a tremendous amount of pride in this team,
1:12:06
Speaker 8: this organization, and we're really happy for the players.
1:12:08
Speaker 1: Awesome, thanks man, We appreciate it and very excited to
1:12:11
Speaker 1: have you on board. We'll talk to you next Wednesday.
1:12:14
Speaker 5: Sounds great, all right?
1:12:15
Speaker 1: Areas former Sea Hawk quarterback Matt Hasselback joining us right
1:12:19
Speaker 1: here on Chuck and Buck, and as we mentioned, as
1:12:22
Speaker 1: he mentioned he's going to be joining us throughout the
1:12:24
Speaker 1: postseason eight to eight. We could call it eight to
1:12:27
Speaker 1: eight throughout the postseason on Wednesdays. I like it.
1:12:30
Speaker 7: I love you too, great stuff. I do too, and
1:12:32
Speaker 7: we love having Hugh on and it's just always nice.
1:12:36
Speaker 7: I think have as many quarterbacks or guys like homeground
1:12:38
Speaker 7: guys that really know the inside of it. I mean,
1:12:41
Speaker 7: you and I can bs about it and we know
1:12:44
Speaker 7: a little bit about it, but not anything like what
1:12:46
Speaker 7: these guys do.
1:12:47
Speaker 1: I think you're short changing me. Coming up next, Tom
1:12:50
Speaker 1: Williams ends up being the big topic here today, and
1:12:54
Speaker 1: I do wonder how it is affecting some of your
1:12:57
Speaker 1: fandom out there of college football Sports ninety three point
1:13:00
Speaker 1: three kJ RFM, and we do have the demand Williams
1:13:04
Speaker 1: thing to discuss here. In a moment, I was just
1:13:05
Speaker 1: thinking during the break coming back for the break about
1:13:07
Speaker 1: what Bucky had said, the slight that he made against him,
1:13:10
Speaker 1: And I just want to point out that, uh, New
1:13:14
Speaker 1: Year's resolution one thirty one out of four hundred and
1:13:16
Speaker 1: ninety six that I made yet one I want to
1:13:20
Speaker 1: know by the end of this year more football than
1:13:23
Speaker 1: coach Hugh and Hasselbeck combined. I had already made that
1:13:27
Speaker 1: a goal. Can I can make those achievable? Actually?
1:13:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're going to fail at that one.
1:13:32
Speaker 11: Really, Yeah, because first of all, you just set it
1:13:34
Speaker 11: on the air, which means Hugh's probably heard it, So
1:13:36
Speaker 11: that means he was going to study even more.
1:13:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's you're just you're chasing an uphill.
1:13:41
Speaker 1: I don't think you, as Steven study at all too.
1:13:46
Speaker 1: And then I mean the combined part of it, Yeah,
1:13:48
Speaker 1: combined completely unachievable. Yeah, yeah, individually, but also unachievable. Why
1:13:55
Speaker 1: don't want Bucket or Ashley around your children when they
1:13:58
Speaker 1: want to set goals for themselves, not stupid goals. Yeah,
1:14:02
Speaker 1: I gotta tell my kids and make him achievable.
1:14:05
Speaker 7: You know, my son if he's like, hey, I want
1:14:07
Speaker 7: to be a racehorse jockey, I'm gonna say, son, though,
1:14:11
Speaker 7: that's for smaller people.
1:14:15
Speaker 1: Huh, I'm small right now, Dad. You're not going to
1:14:18
Speaker 1: stay that way Baron.
1:14:19
Speaker 11: Yeah, man, it's just have to ride three horses at
1:14:22
Speaker 11: the same time.
1:14:23
Speaker 1: As a friend. I just got to tell you set
1:14:25
Speaker 1: achievable goals. It's Chuck Powell here with Spirit crushers Ashley
1:14:30
Speaker 1: Ryan and Bucky Jacobs here on this Wednesday. I mean sorry,
1:14:35
Speaker 1: and we will certainly talk some more NFL playoffs coming
1:14:38
Speaker 1: up on the program. Press Berkeley Catton making his show
1:14:41
Speaker 1: debut today at nine thirty, coming off his well you
1:14:44
Speaker 1: score two goals and you think he owed in the world.
1:14:46
Speaker 1: You know, you just go on any radio show that
1:14:49
Speaker 1: you want, even one as prestigious as this the next one.
1:14:52
Speaker 3: I mean, good for him, yep.
1:14:54
Speaker 1: But we got blind sided yesterday here in Seattle. Certainly
1:14:59
Speaker 1: Husky fans certainly kjar with the news from Demond Williams Junior,
1:15:03
Speaker 1: and it has turned into certainly our biggest topic of
1:15:07
Speaker 1: the day. Demond Williams Junior, if you haven't heard, well,
1:15:11
Speaker 1: he had signed a deal, a revenue sharing deal with
1:15:14
Speaker 1: Washington that we thought in the Jetfish column of one
1:15:19
Speaker 1: less thing to worry about. Yep, we could put Demond
1:15:23
Speaker 1: Williams Junior, the quarterback, the Heisman candidate heading into next season. Well,
1:15:27
Speaker 1: you can't trust anything anymore in college football, apparently, not
1:15:31
Speaker 1: even written word, not even a signature on a contract,
1:15:36
Speaker 1: because Demond Williams Junior entered the transfer portal last night
1:15:42
Speaker 1: and we already knew by the time that he got
1:15:44
Speaker 1: to the transfer portal that he was already going to
1:15:48
Speaker 1: LSU to play for Lane Kiffin, and so yes, consider
1:15:52
Speaker 1: us gobsmacked. And I think a lot of people nationally
1:15:55
Speaker 1: think this might be the story like Kurt Flood was
1:15:59
Speaker 1: for free agency in professional sports once upon a time,
1:16:04
Speaker 1: this might be the story where college football decides, all right,
1:16:10
Speaker 1: we can't have this occur. So what are we going
1:16:13
Speaker 1: to do to fix this? Right now? Hopefully, I mean
1:16:18
Speaker 1: that's the most vegan roof for right now. Hopefully that
1:16:22
Speaker 1: is the case. But I do want to ask, because
1:16:24
Speaker 1: I saw this a lot last night about that's it.
1:16:27
Speaker 1: I just can't follow this sport anymore. And a lot
1:16:30
Speaker 1: of people have been saying that for a while, and
1:16:32
Speaker 1: yet ratings just keep on going up, up, up and up.
1:16:35
Speaker 1: So you haven't collectively committed to this. I'm sure a
1:16:38
Speaker 1: few individuals have committed to this, but it certainly hasn't
1:16:41
Speaker 1: affected college football's bottom line. Ashley. I think of the
1:16:44
Speaker 1: three of us has been the one that has been
1:16:47
Speaker 1: most turned off by the state of affairs in college
1:16:50
Speaker 1: football here the last couple of years. So was this
1:16:53
Speaker 1: like a final straw for you last night?
1:16:56
Speaker 11: I would say yes, and it's I don't think it's
1:17:00
Speaker 11: no fault of you, Dub at all. It's just the
1:17:03
Speaker 11: entire the way it's going. I've talked three years on
1:17:06
Speaker 11: with tw you guys, like loyalty is the thing that
1:17:08
Speaker 11: separates college football from the NFL. Right, you feel like
1:17:12
Speaker 11: you have a bond, a loyalty with the players that
1:17:14
Speaker 11: are playing for the college football team that you root for. Right,
1:17:17
Speaker 11: either grew up rooting for that team because that's your
1:17:19
Speaker 11: hometown team, or you chose to go to that school
1:17:23
Speaker 11: and you have that bond with the players that chose
1:17:24
Speaker 11: to go to that school and the coaches that chose
1:17:26
Speaker 11: to be there, and.
1:17:28
Speaker 3: That's all gone.
1:17:30
Speaker 11: So that bond, that loyalty, that thing you share, it's
1:17:33
Speaker 11: just turned me into more of a casual college football fan.
1:17:37
Speaker 11: I'm not turning it off on weekends, okay, but I'm
1:17:40
Speaker 11: not it's also not oh my gosh, must see TV,
1:17:44
Speaker 11: like we got to have a party to watch the Huskies.
1:17:47
Speaker 11: I don't do that anymore. And I canceled my season tickets.
1:17:51
Speaker 11: We've had them since two thousand and nine, and part
1:17:54
Speaker 11: of that was Palmer's softball schedule.
1:17:57
Speaker 3: You know, we only went to two games this year.
1:17:59
Speaker 11: But we're also not making it a priority, you know,
1:18:03
Speaker 11: trying canceling other things to say, Nope, we got Husky
1:18:06
Speaker 11: season tickets, We've got to go to the game.
1:18:09
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I look, I mean sometimes baseball's done a
1:18:13
Speaker 1: lot of things over the years that are just like,
1:18:16
Speaker 1: you've got to be kidding me. As great as sport
1:18:19
Speaker 1: it is is, I mean, can you run this thing
1:18:22
Speaker 1: any worse? And there have been times I'm like, if
1:18:24
Speaker 1: I wasn't such a die hard fan, I think i'd
1:18:29
Speaker 1: stop watching baseball. I've had those moments. Yeah, and yet
1:18:33
Speaker 1: I'm so locked in. I don't think there's anything they
1:18:37
Speaker 1: could do. I think they could probably like steal my
1:18:39
Speaker 1: mom's social Security checks out of the mailbox, and I'm like, man,
1:18:43
Speaker 1: the game's on, you know, I think I'd steal my
1:18:46
Speaker 1: Just stay in there, you know what I mean. And
1:18:48
Speaker 1: so Yes, there is an element of I know I'm
1:18:52
Speaker 1: getting abused. I know I don't like these parts of
1:18:55
Speaker 1: the process, but I'm still going to be invested in it.
1:18:59
Speaker 1: To a and it sounds like you're keeping your foot
1:19:01
Speaker 1: in the door just so if they fix it, then
1:19:05
Speaker 1: you didn't close yourself off entirely. Yeah to it, But
1:19:10
Speaker 1: I will say this, I don't think that sentiment's going
1:19:13
Speaker 1: to win the day. I think a lot of you,
1:19:16
Speaker 1: not Ashley, I understand the rules that she's made for herself.
1:19:20
Speaker 1: A lot of you that say I'm done with it
1:19:21
Speaker 1: are probably going to watch three times more college football
1:19:24
Speaker 1: next year than what you did, and they're counting on it.
1:19:27
Speaker 1: College football is constantly counted on this, Bucky. Just this
1:19:30
Speaker 1: idea of any publicity, I think they're the biggest, the
1:19:34
Speaker 1: biggest a holes when it comes to that. Of anyone
1:19:38
Speaker 1: this side of the Kardashians. Any publicity is good publicity.
1:19:42
Speaker 1: We don't care as long as our name just keeps
1:19:43
Speaker 1: getting out there. I think that's college football in a nutshell.
1:19:47
Speaker 1: But at some point, I mean, don't you just get
1:19:51
Speaker 1: tired of reading how stupid you are and how angry
1:19:56
Speaker 1: people are with you? I mean, at some point, don't
1:19:59
Speaker 1: you have to recognize that people are fed up with
1:20:03
Speaker 1: the things that you do and the lack of leadership
1:20:05
Speaker 1: that you show and the softness that you portray when
1:20:09
Speaker 1: it comes to what looks like some pretty obvious rule
1:20:13
Speaker 1: changes that have to take place. I don't know if
1:20:16
Speaker 1: they're going to just keep leaning on, Hey, everybody's talking
1:20:19
Speaker 1: about college football this morning. Who cares if Demon Williams
1:20:23
Speaker 1: left UW LSU. That just means more people are talking
1:20:27
Speaker 1: college football today. At some point, don't you have to
1:20:30
Speaker 1: make the decision of we need to do things the
1:20:33
Speaker 1: right way, and we need to do them the right way.
1:20:36
Speaker 7: Now, you would think you would think that most people
1:20:39
Speaker 7: would think that, But then whenever the almighty dollar comes
1:20:42
Speaker 7: into play, then people don't care about any of the
1:20:46
Speaker 7: other things, the periphery stuff of what's people's thoughts on it. Well,
1:20:50
Speaker 7: if it doesn't end up affecting the bottom line. And
1:20:53
Speaker 7: let's be real, if there's a stadium that holds seventy
1:20:56
Speaker 7: thousand people next year, you might have thirty thousand of
1:20:59
Speaker 7: them that are still there that are pissed off that
1:21:02
Speaker 7: Demon Williams isn't here and they're mad at Demon Williams.
1:21:06
Speaker 7: Or they're mad at the university for I guess not
1:21:08
Speaker 7: writing a contract that was ironclad enough, or they're mad
1:21:11
Speaker 7: at the NCAA, and yet they still don't want to
1:21:15
Speaker 7: give up putting purple on salegating over and enjoying a
1:21:19
Speaker 7: Saturday like they did with their grandpa. And they're going
1:21:22
Speaker 7: to continue the tradition. So it's not and you just
1:21:25
Speaker 7: are not going to have enough people. I don't think
1:21:27
Speaker 7: that will bow out of it. You might have people
1:21:29
Speaker 7: that stop paying money into collectives for a freshman that
1:21:33
Speaker 7: will come and sit the bench for a year and
1:21:34
Speaker 7: then jump ship to somewhere else, or maybe sit the
1:21:38
Speaker 7: bench for a spring practice and jump ship as soon
1:21:40
Speaker 7: as possible, and you just watch your money flyway. That
1:21:43
Speaker 7: money might dry up or or decrease to some degree,
1:21:47
Speaker 7: but I don't think the overarching money is going to
1:21:49
Speaker 7: go anywhere. I mean, we've talked at length about how
1:21:52
Speaker 7: the actual deciding of a national champion was horrendous for
1:21:56
Speaker 7: one hundred years and we just now got there. Would
1:22:00
Speaker 7: did college football failed to be successful while we were
1:22:03
Speaker 7: just having a computer decide who was the champ or
1:22:06
Speaker 7: or a committee decide who it was. And now it's
1:22:09
Speaker 7: things are going in the right direction. There's just no guardrails.
1:22:12
Speaker 7: And if you want to call what they did guardrails,
1:22:14
Speaker 7: they obviously are not strict enough guardrails and they're not
1:22:18
Speaker 7: firm enough guardrails because it's still running off the rails
1:22:21
Speaker 7: like yesterday.
1:22:22
Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of people, I mean
1:22:23
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Let's say that my one person
1:22:26
Speaker 1: boycott of the Bulls for twenty years is why we
1:22:28
Speaker 1: have the tournament. Oh yeah, but they still have the Bulls. Yeah,
1:22:33
Speaker 1: but I don't care if we have a tournament. Okay, yeah, okay,
1:22:36
Speaker 1: So you just did it until we had a tournament.
1:22:37
Speaker 1: That's way it really bothered him. Took him. I mean,
1:22:40
Speaker 1: they just got on it immediately, right right around in
1:22:44
Speaker 1: the twenty year mark. They were like, we got to
1:22:46
Speaker 1: get this guy back to watching posts in football again.
1:22:50
Speaker 1: And so I say that tungun cheek, but I did.
1:22:53
Speaker 1: I did I boy cut of the I just felt like,
1:22:55
Speaker 1: if I'm going to complain about this all the time,
1:22:58
Speaker 1: I got to put my money where my mouth is.
1:23:00
Speaker 1: Just sit here and just keep watching this product. And
1:23:02
Speaker 1: so I put a self imposed sanctions on myself. And
1:23:05
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not telling people to do that.
1:23:08
Speaker 1: I'm not telling people not to go to U dub games,
1:23:11
Speaker 1: but there is an element of putting your money where
1:23:13
Speaker 1: your mouth is. Ashley saying, I'm not going to stop
1:23:16
Speaker 1: watching it, but I'm not gonna pay for the product
1:23:18
Speaker 1: anymore until they fix some of this stuff. And some
1:23:22
Speaker 1: of you out there you say it and then you
1:23:25
Speaker 1: don't change. You watch four times more than what you
1:23:27
Speaker 1: did the previous year. That's obviously going on with a
1:23:30
Speaker 1: lot of people. I mean, their ratings are through the roof,
1:23:33
Speaker 1: Like game day, there are people stacked around, you know,
1:23:37
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee for three quarter miles. Obviously, things are going
1:23:43
Speaker 1: splendidly for college football despite all this rancor and anger
1:23:47
Speaker 1: that people are expressing, at least on social media. So
1:23:50
Speaker 1: if you really do want it to change, I mean
1:23:52
Speaker 1: it does take a little bit of a fundamental process
1:23:55
Speaker 1: of you wanting to sacrifice something. But I just hate
1:23:58
Speaker 1: that college football can recognize. Man, we're pissing a lot
1:24:01
Speaker 1: of people off because we're doing stupid things. Let's get
1:24:05
Speaker 1: it under control. Why does it have to take disaster
1:24:08
Speaker 1: before anybody acts in the sports world these days.
1:24:11
Speaker 11: Well, they haven't cared and they haven't cared about fans
1:24:13
Speaker 11: for a long time. I mean, it's notable by game
1:24:16
Speaker 11: times and the fact that you don't announce a game
1:24:18
Speaker 11: now within you can announce it within six days when
1:24:21
Speaker 11: a game is going to be So they the fans
1:24:23
Speaker 11: are not a priority in college football because as you said,
1:24:26
Speaker 11: they know no matter what, people are going to be
1:24:28
Speaker 11: watching and they're getting their money somehow. So this is
1:24:31
Speaker 11: just more of an example of the fans not being
1:24:33
Speaker 11: a priority. And again to reiterate, I'm not mad at you,
1:24:36
Speaker 11: dub It's not I'm not going to the games because
1:24:38
Speaker 11: I'm mad at you, Dubbs.
1:24:40
Speaker 3: Well, this isn't a priority in.
1:24:42
Speaker 11: My life anymore and worth the money that I'm paying
1:24:44
Speaker 11: because they don't. College football in general does not give
1:24:48
Speaker 11: a you know what about the fans.
1:24:49
Speaker 1: Imagine if you gave a million dollar check to keep
1:24:53
Speaker 1: dem On Williams.
1:24:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, then I'd be real pissed.
1:24:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine that. Imagine that person. At least I would
1:24:58
Speaker 1: think that that person is up an arms. Today, we'll
1:25:01
Speaker 1: continue the conversation next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
1:25:05
Speaker 1: Here here, Bucky, try this on for size. Berkeley Catton
1:25:09
Speaker 1: was born January fourteenth, two thousand and six. Oh wow, wow,
1:25:18
Speaker 1: that means yes, we are old. Nineteen years later, he
1:25:23
Speaker 1: scores not just his first goal, but his first two
1:25:26
Speaker 1: goals of his NHL career. Joining us now on the
1:25:30
Speaker 1: program is the Seattle Crack and rookie Berkeley Catton is
1:25:34
Speaker 1: with us. Welcome to the Chuck and Buck Show. Berkeley.
1:25:38
Speaker 10: Yeah, thank you, thanks for having me on.
1:25:39
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for being with us. We appreciate it. What
1:25:43
Speaker 1: was it like last night? I know it took a
1:25:45
Speaker 1: little while, but to finally get that first goal of
1:25:48
Speaker 1: your NHL career.
1:25:51
Speaker 10: Yeah, out of lakes forever, and it was you know,
1:25:54
Speaker 10: obviously I really wanted to get it, and I honestly
1:25:57
Speaker 10: just threw a shot on that and I got a
1:25:59
Speaker 10: little bit of a lucky balance, It found its way
1:26:00
Speaker 10: in and it was a big sensor e leak for me.
1:26:02
Speaker 1: Well, one NHL goal today and maybe tomorrow you'll shave
1:26:06
Speaker 1: for the first time. Really too big accomplishments.
1:26:08
Speaker 7: That'd be great, hey man, when you get up here,
1:26:13
Speaker 7: I mean we talk about sports. I played baseball, and
1:26:17
Speaker 7: yet it didn't seem quite as drastic as what I
1:26:20
Speaker 7: hear from like NFL players, how fast the game is
1:26:23
Speaker 7: at the highest level. Did you get that feeling and
1:26:25
Speaker 7: is it starting to slow down hence the reason you
1:26:28
Speaker 7: got a couple of goals?
1:26:31
Speaker 10: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think those first couple of games,
1:26:33
Speaker 10: it's like, Wow, it's pretty crazy, honestly, just how fast
1:26:37
Speaker 10: and how good everyone is. And then I think, like
1:26:39
Speaker 10: you said, you just keep playing, it starts to slow
1:26:41
Speaker 10: down a little bit and get a little bit more
1:26:43
Speaker 10: confidence and you know, starting to feel a little bit
1:26:46
Speaker 10: better out there. So I think for sure that that
1:26:47
Speaker 10: helped it out.
1:26:48
Speaker 1: It's been a strange season this year watching you guys play.
1:26:53
Speaker 1: You got off to the hot start, then went ice cold,
1:26:55
Speaker 1: and now not only are you hot, you're playing better
1:26:58
Speaker 1: hockey than anyone in the NHL. I know this is
1:27:02
Speaker 1: your first full season in the NHL, so you don't
1:27:04
Speaker 1: have anything to compare it to, But has it even
1:27:07
Speaker 1: seemed odd to you? Berkeley?
1:27:11
Speaker 10: Yeah? I think it for sure. But also it's just
1:27:15
Speaker 10: the way hockey go is, like you know, personally and
1:27:19
Speaker 10: team wise, when you're when you're going, you're going, and
1:27:22
Speaker 10: it's there's so many ups and downs, but I think
1:27:25
Speaker 10: it's just all part of it and kind of embracing
1:27:26
Speaker 10: those up and downs. And ultimately just kind of having
1:27:29
Speaker 10: that goal of winning and getting the playoffs is kind
1:27:33
Speaker 10: of the way we're looking at things. So we got
1:27:35
Speaker 10: a really really good group, and you know, we're doing
1:27:38
Speaker 10: good things right now.
1:27:39
Speaker 7: Who's taking you under their wing as far as a
1:27:42
Speaker 7: vet or is it a bunch of youngsters hanging out
1:27:44
Speaker 7: together and you don't get to sit at the grown
1:27:46
Speaker 7: up table?
1:27:49
Speaker 10: No, the old guys have been nothing but awesome to
1:27:52
Speaker 10: all us young guys. There's a good mix, there's we
1:27:54
Speaker 10: have a good group of older guys and a good
1:27:56
Speaker 10: group of younger guys. But I think I honestly couldn't
1:27:59
Speaker 10: just him on. All the old guys have been absolutely
1:28:02
Speaker 10: awesome me. Obviously, I'm living with Chandler Stevenson, so you know,
1:28:06
Speaker 10: he's been unbelievable to me. And you know, Jordan Eberley
1:28:10
Speaker 10: is another guy that you know, I looked up to
1:28:12
Speaker 10: growing up and and you know, getting to hang out
1:28:15
Speaker 10: with him and learn from him has been really cool
1:28:17
Speaker 10: to this. So, but they've all been great.
1:28:19
Speaker 1: Let me let me highlight something that you just said.
1:28:21
Speaker 1: I live with Chandler Chandler Stevenson, What is that experience
1:28:26
Speaker 1: like for rookie Berkeley? Cat. I mean, does he have
1:28:29
Speaker 1: do you have chores? Does he have you take out
1:28:30
Speaker 1: the trash? I mean, how does that experience?
1:28:35
Speaker 2: Yeah?
1:28:35
Speaker 10: I tried help as much as I can. I mean,
1:28:38
Speaker 10: that's for the least I can do. But you know,
1:28:41
Speaker 10: I think just that alone moving in here made things
1:28:46
Speaker 10: so much easier, even just from the mental side of it,
1:28:49
Speaker 10: not living on my own and stuff. So you know,
1:28:53
Speaker 10: that's been awesome. And he's actually from the same hometown
1:28:55
Speaker 10: with hometown with me in Saskatoon, so we kind of
1:28:58
Speaker 10: mutually known each other, you know, So it's been pretty cool.
1:29:01
Speaker 7: Well, you guys are playing great hockey right now, man,
1:29:04
Speaker 7: and it feels like it's a in large part because
1:29:07
Speaker 7: of you young guys in the way in which you
1:29:10
Speaker 7: guys are maybe coming into your own or starting to
1:29:12
Speaker 7: feel more confident at the highest level. Is there was
1:29:15
Speaker 7: there anything in particular that changed between the years for
1:29:18
Speaker 7: you where you just felt like, you know what, Yeah,
1:29:21
Speaker 7: I'm big enough to go against these guys, or I'm
1:29:23
Speaker 7: I'm fast enough to that I can still skate around
1:29:25
Speaker 7: these dudes. Was there any kind of flip that's, uh,
1:29:28
Speaker 7: switch that flipped for you that's kind of turned you
1:29:31
Speaker 7: and maybe the rest of these youngsters into the beast
1:29:33
Speaker 7: that you guys are becoming.
1:29:37
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's definitely a gradual process of you,
1:29:40
Speaker 10: like you kind of said before, it it's really fast
1:29:42
Speaker 10: when you first, you know, start out, than to slow
1:29:45
Speaker 10: down you get a little bit more confident stuff. You know.
1:29:48
Speaker 10: Jacob Laanson, the way he came in and helped to
1:29:51
Speaker 10: sell it has been awesome. He so stuff like that
1:29:54
Speaker 10: has really helped us out. But I think the biggest
1:29:56
Speaker 10: thing is just confidence and knowing you can do it
1:29:59
Speaker 10: and going out there and feeling good while you're out there.
1:30:02
Speaker 10: You know, that's the biggest thing for sure, rather than
1:30:05
Speaker 10: just you know.
1:30:05
Speaker 1: Mentally cracking rookie Berkeley Catt and our guest here this morning,
1:30:09
Speaker 1: the Cracking on Fire. They won eight of their last
1:30:12
Speaker 1: nine games. For their last five wins have been by
1:30:15
Speaker 1: two goals or more. The kids are getting the job done,
1:30:19
Speaker 1: Winterton and the Lanson Myers and Berkeley Catton with his
1:30:24
Speaker 1: first two goals of his career last night in a
1:30:28
Speaker 1: Cracking uniform. So certainly excited for him and excited to
1:30:31
Speaker 1: have him on the show here today. Have you figured
1:30:34
Speaker 1: out who you're going to invite the prom.
1:30:39
Speaker 10: Oh the high school.
1:30:40
Speaker 1: Now I'm at least out of high school, he says.
1:30:47
Speaker 1: I mean how much how much of a transition was
1:30:50
Speaker 1: it to go from the hockey that you knew to
1:30:53
Speaker 1: one day playing in the NHL. What was the biggest
1:30:56
Speaker 1: difference for you?
1:30:59
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean obviously the strength and the size of guys,
1:31:02
Speaker 10: that's huge, But the off light because a lot rather
1:31:06
Speaker 10: than know, hey, you know, it's a bunch of teenagers
1:31:08
Speaker 10: and yeah, you know guys, your ages, people's people's families
1:31:13
Speaker 10: and you know, stuff like that, so that aspects a
1:31:16
Speaker 10: little bit different. But I mean, at the end of
1:31:18
Speaker 10: the day, it it is still just hockey, even if
1:31:21
Speaker 10: it's you know, the best players in the world. But
1:31:23
Speaker 10: it's pretty cool to get to, you know, learn and
1:31:26
Speaker 10: and you know, playing the best league in the world.
1:31:29
Speaker 1: Was were there times you're like, I'm not sure I'm
1:31:31
Speaker 1: ready for this or did you feel confident every time
1:31:33
Speaker 1: you were on the ice and knew that the sport
1:31:36
Speaker 1: and the game would come to you.
1:31:39
Speaker 10: Yeah, one hundred percent.
1:31:41
Speaker 2: You know.
1:31:42
Speaker 10: I think when the first couple of games was a
1:31:45
Speaker 10: really just like how how fast ever how little mistakes
1:31:49
Speaker 10: there were. I think it was another big one that
1:31:51
Speaker 10: popped out to me. But you know, I think just
1:31:54
Speaker 10: trying to have as much confidence as possibly can and
1:31:57
Speaker 10: just trying to stick with it at all times, and ultimately,
1:32:01
Speaker 10: you know, just trying to grow my game as much
1:32:03
Speaker 10: as I possibly can. And I think, you know, not
1:32:05
Speaker 10: that I've really accomplished anything yet, but I've you know,
1:32:08
Speaker 10: I'm starting to feel a little bit better.
1:32:09
Speaker 1: All right, a lot of games being stacked one on
1:32:12
Speaker 1: top of the other here these days. You'll play again
1:32:15
Speaker 1: tomorrow against the Minnesota Wild. So all right, let's be
1:32:19
Speaker 1: a veteran about this. Let's get your post career going
1:32:24
Speaker 1: as an analyst. So what is it going to take
1:32:26
Speaker 1: for the crack and to keep this thing rolling?
1:32:30
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think we just got to keep playing the
1:32:33
Speaker 10: way I've been playing, probably pretty basic answer. But we
1:32:37
Speaker 10: don't got to really change anything up, not overthink anything.
1:32:41
Speaker 10: We're playing you know a lot of hockey, especially this month,
1:32:44
Speaker 10: So we just got to you know, play a little
1:32:48
Speaker 10: you know, play simple hockey the way we can. And
1:32:51
Speaker 10: and you know, I think good things will come on
1:32:54
Speaker 10: last Well.
1:32:54
Speaker 1: Good things are coming, that's for sure. And I know
1:32:56
Speaker 1: a lot more goals for Berkeley Katt and are on
1:32:59
Speaker 1: the way as well. Congratulations. It's great to have here
1:33:04
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Can't wait to see how your career unfolds
1:33:08
Speaker 1: from our view, and we appreciate you coming on the show.
1:33:11
Speaker 1: Stop by anytime.
1:33:14
Speaker 10: Thanks a guys, appreciate it all.
1:33:16
Speaker 1: Right there he is rookie Berkeley Caton joining us right
1:33:19
Speaker 1: here on Chuck and Buck in the mornings. Boy Mike
1:33:22
Speaker 1: Menton is very jealous. He just loves Berkeley Catton does
1:33:25
Speaker 1: he well understandably, So I think it's the name. I
1:33:28
Speaker 1: think he can't say it enough. It's like cockboat Cocko,
1:33:30
Speaker 1: Berkeley Catton. I mean, they just roll off the top.
1:33:34
Speaker 1: It's funny.
1:33:34
Speaker 7: When we were preparing for this segment and I was
1:33:36
Speaker 7: pulling some stuff up, I was like, Berkeley cat that's
1:33:40
Speaker 7: well done. Parents, That's a name that deserves to be
1:33:43
Speaker 7: in light somewhere.
1:33:45
Speaker 3: I will say it lived up to it last night
1:33:46
Speaker 3: after Copo Cockco's goal.
1:33:48
Speaker 1: YE had two goals too.
1:33:49
Speaker 11: Yeah, but after the first one, I looked at my
1:33:52
Speaker 11: dog and I go, cop Bo cock go, and he
1:33:55
Speaker 11: his ears pricked up and his head turned and he
1:33:57
Speaker 11: like jumping on the floor.
1:33:58
Speaker 3: No, he jumped up.
1:33:59
Speaker 11: So then I kept saying it, and then he jumped
1:34:01
Speaker 11: up on the couch and sat next to me, and
1:34:02
Speaker 11: I said again, me like jumped in my lap.
1:34:04
Speaker 3: So clearly my dog is a fan of Copo Cocko.
1:34:08
Speaker 1: Well yeah, or he thought you were something was happening.
1:34:10
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm going to do it to
1:34:12
Speaker 3: him all the time
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Speaker 1: All right, Coming up next, we close out the show
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