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Hattie Kanyo - Clydesdale Media Podcast - 2 Time CrossFit Games Athlete · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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Hey, hey, still.
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Let's go.
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What is going on, everybody?
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Welcome to the Clydesdale Media Podcast,
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where we interview the athletes,
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the coaches,
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the faces you see around the
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CrossFit space.
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And today,
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we have none other than my homie,
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Hattie Canio.
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What's going on, Hattie?
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Hi.
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Just chilling.
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Got back from the gym not too long ago.
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I'm just hanging.
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We have a new member to the channel,
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here so um I love having
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hattie on because we just
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chill we just sit back we
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relax we talk about our
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lives and it's all good
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After a stressful week,
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which I can imagine you had last week,
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I'm sure this,
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it's been nice to kind of debrief, detox,
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all those kind of things
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and get ready to like move
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into games training season.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's been nice.
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I mean,
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today was my first hard training
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day and it was hard,
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but that's just kind of how it goes.
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So yeah.
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Other than that,
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it's been chill right after the,
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ncc I went to boise idaho
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just outside of boise in
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the mountains because my
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sister lives there and that
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was really nice to just get
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out go on a couple hikes
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hang out with family and
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yeah it was really nice is
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that this so that's
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actually tahoe lake we went
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there on the way to ncc
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jake and I okay yeah there
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are pictures sorry you
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always have the best pictures
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Well, Jake,
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he's the best Instagram
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boyfriend there is.
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There's a couple of photos in there.
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I think there's like one of
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me tree hugging a tree and
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that is in Boise.
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I think that one is in Boise.
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I mean,
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you can't really see how beautiful it is,
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but yeah, I just love trees.
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So,
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and that was on my way home from Boise
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hugging another tree.
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Just throwing in the grass.
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Oh yeah.
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Looking at trees.
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Big tree.
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Yeah.
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I just love trees so much.
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So when you say Jake is the
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best internet boyfriend,
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you don't mean like you
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guys met on the gram and
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then you just kind of know each other.
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No, we met at,
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we met at a gym here in Lethbridge.
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He's just good at taking photos and stuff.
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And so he used to actually
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bring out his really nice
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camera and do videos and pictures for me.
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Um,
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But I think he kind of just, I don't know,
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he's firefighting now.
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So that's kind of hard to do now.
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So he'll pull it out here and there.
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But he's got to find the love in it again,
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I feel like.
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I know when you guys first
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went to bali you talked
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about doing like travel
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vlogs and all that kind of
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stuff and and a lot a lot
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of times in content
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creation you have these
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best laid plans and then
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when it takes to the x to
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the execution like it just
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kind of falls off I mean he
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was really good at videos
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and doing those vlogs and
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stuff I think he's just so
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meticulous and he loves
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like he wants it to look really good.
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So he would even color grade
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and all of that.
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And so I think it just took a toll on him.
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And in the sense of it just, yeah,
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it just took too long because he was like,
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I want this to be perfect.
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You know what I mean?
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And so over time,
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he just didn't really feel
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like he wanted to do it anymore.
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So that's why I say he just
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needs to find the love in it again,
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and maybe just have it as a hobby,
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go have fun doing it.
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No pressure.
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Cause even his stuff that he
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wouldn't make perfect and
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he wouldn't color grade was,
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So good.
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Yeah, it's funny, Jose,
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who's a media member as well.
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That's my kind of guy right
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there if he color grades.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What I found in my world,
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and I'm not a video guy,
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but when we first started the podcast,
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we used to record them, edit them,
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and then put them out.
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It took so much time.
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And then I realized that
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like doing them live and
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just letting them be what they are.
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Yeah.
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There's actually like an
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authenticity to that,
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that when you're having
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communications with people
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seems to carry over better
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than trying to be perfect.
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Like I had to say,
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perfect isn't necessary in
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this line of work.
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Yeah.
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You just got to get the content out.
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And yeah, like you said,
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just be authentic with it.
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I feel like.
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right log or whatever I get
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it and yeah it does take
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forever because I was doing
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mini vlogs and I still
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actually have some content
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from different I think in
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Egypt some Egypt content
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and another one I can't
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remember from where that I
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still haven't made these
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mini vlogs because just takes a while and
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yeah when I do like the
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behind the scenes it takes
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a lot more editing it's I
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really have to be focused
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on like a schedule like I
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when I did the masters
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games last year I did one
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episode for every event and
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I gave me myself a week
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schedule for each event so
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we put out an episode every
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week by monday I had to
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have this done by tuesday I
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had to have this done and I
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just I mean that's it'll go up throughout
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Yeah, I think that's the way to do it,
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really.
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Just give yourself a timeline, right?
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For me,
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I would just do it when I had a
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little bit of time.
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But then that sucks because
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then you come back and you
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have to figure out where
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you're at and what you've already done.
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And I don't know.
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It's a lot.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I found a groove with it.
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But when I was done,
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I didn't want to do it
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again for a little while.
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Like I need a minute.
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Now I want to do another one
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this year at the masters CrossFit games.
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And so I'm going to do that
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again this year.
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And then I'm sure at the end, I'll be like,
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okay, done with that for a little while.
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Until next year.
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Right.
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Are you coming to the games?
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I do have an Airbnb booked.
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I have applied for four
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media credentials and,
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I've not heard back on those
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I don't think anybody has
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um so the plan is yes but
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we'll see what what happens
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with everything yeah that'd
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be so so awesome to see you
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I know because last year we
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had all these plans and
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then of course it kind of just went
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And we,
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we talked about the last time you
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were on the show.
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So I don't,
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we don't need to rehash all that, but no,
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but I was thinking when you
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got your ticket back to the
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games this year, you,
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I don't want this to sound rude, right?
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Because someone lost their
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life and that was bad.
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And that was, but,
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and it's important to
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remember that him and
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everything he did for the
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sport and all that.
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but you as a rookie kind of
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got cheated out of a games experience.
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And,
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and that is a true flip side of what
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you went through.
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Yeah.
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By getting your ticket back this year,
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you now get to go
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experience it again and
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hopefully a nice clean run
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in Albany where we don't
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have any tragic events and
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you can just go enjoy yourself.
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Do you ever think about that
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you're excited about
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getting that experience finally?
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Yeah, I definitely do think about it.
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I said to,
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I think Taylor was interviewing
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me at NCC and yeah, I just,
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I pretty much told them
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that this is like the first
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year I'm making it kind of, yes,
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because of all that,
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but also because of how
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semifinals went last year,
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like I had just punched my
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ticket before even the last event.
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And that was kind of like,
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it was just weird.
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I thought that it was going
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to feel a little bit different.
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And it's just because I was told that, hey,
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we already made it before
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that last event.
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So I wasn't actually able to have that
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insane feeling of waiting to
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see if I made it or not.
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If that makes sense after the last event,
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even this year was kind of weird too,
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because they told us in quarantine,
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she was like, okay,
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fifth is this fourth is
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this before we went to go
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get piss tested instead of, you know,
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where everyone's waiting on
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the floor and they've got
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like cameras on you, you know, my,
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the year that Kelly made it,
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it was crazy.
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Cause Kelly was,
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had like tripped and fallen
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and none of us knew if she
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was making it or not.
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And there was like a camera on,
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was it Danny?
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I think it was either her or
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Danny Spiegel made it.
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And the camera was on both of them.
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And they were just sitting
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there waiting for ten, fifteen minutes,
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maybe even twenty minutes.
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We were all just sitting there like,
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who made it?
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You know, it's that suspense.
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I never really felt that.
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So, I don't know.
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It was just, I think it was just weird.
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But I have definitely felt
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I hope this year is a little
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bit different in the sense when we go,
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we actually get that games experience,
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if that makes sense.
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Totally makes sense.
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Larry Young says, flights look crappy.
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We were actually just
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talking about that before
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we went on the air.
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We're still looking for
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affordable flights to Albany.
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It's crazy.
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What's funny about that story is,
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I don't know if you remember,
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but I was following Kelly
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through the season that year.
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So like my,
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the story I was telling was
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unfolding and then it got
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hit with a big pause button
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and like Jamie and I are freaking out.
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Like is it,
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do we have her for the games or
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do we not?
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Like what's going on here?
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And it took like,
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it felt like twenty five
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minutes from the end of
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that last event until they
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announced that she had made it.
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Yeah, I feel like it took forever.
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And, of course,
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they started at one and
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went up to her last spot.
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And, oh, my gosh, it was so crazy.
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I just remember wanting to
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go over there and just
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comfort her and be there for her.
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But I wasn't sure when we
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were going to know because
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the way that it was set up,
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it was a line here and then a line here.
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And I was over in this line
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and then she was over in
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that line with everybody
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and she was at the very far.
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So I was just looking at her
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across the way.
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Can I go over there?
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And yeah, it was probably fifteen,
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twenty minutes.
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Maybe even twenty five, like you said.
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And finally,
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I just told myself I'm running
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over there.
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So I ran across the way and
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just hugged her and said, no matter what,
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like, I'm proud of you.
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Everybody's proud of you.
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And maybe five minutes after that,
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that's when they they had
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told her that she was me.
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She made it.
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So.
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Going through that,
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just as the media person behind that.
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I think I'd rather have the
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West Coast Classic where
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you had it wrapped up
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before the last event.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I think it was just,
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I wish that I would have
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pushed harder in that last
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event because I had an
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opportunity of being on top
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of that podium.
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Sure, I still tied for third,
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which is so amazing and I'm
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so proud of that, but
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I think for a confidence thing,
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I wish that I would have
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pushed a little bit harder and not,
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I feel like when the person
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told me that I had clenched my ticket,
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everything just like, it felt like I just,
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I was done everything.
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You know, I just, I had already done it.
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It was it was a weird feeling.
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And then even on the rings,
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like I should have done those unbroken.
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I came down, did ten and five.
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What?
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Even my friend Amanda was thinking,
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why did you come down?
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You know what I mean?
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I think everything was just so relaxed.
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And I wish that I would have
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still pushed for, you know,
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that that first place.
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But.
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Well, and it's so funny because I mean,
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I've gotten to know you
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pretty well over the years.
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Before last year,
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it was the other problem.
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You would tighten up at
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these events and overthink it and over,
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right?
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And so like,
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it's cool that you were able
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to be laid back during a big event.
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For sure.
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Yeah.
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Did the pendulum swing too far?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I think.
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you need to find that balance.
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You know what I mean?
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Yes.
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I was more relaxed and I was
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more chill and I was there to have fun.
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I mean,
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it's funny because I listened to
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Siobhan after NCC and I,
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when they interviewed, I was just like,
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I'm just here to have some fun and blah,
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blah, blah.
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And then they, on their podcast were like,
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is that bullshit?
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Are they actually here to have fun?
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And yes, it is a little bit of bullshit,
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but it's something that I
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need to tell myself, Hey,
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I'm here to have fun.
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Obviously three, two, one go.
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I'm like a shark out of, you know,
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whatever, a lion ready to fricking pounce,
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but that's just the competitor in me.
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But I have to tell myself, Hey,
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We're here to have fun.
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You can't put too much
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pressure on yourself or
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else I just tend to crumble.
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You know what I mean?
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So yes, it is a little bit of bullshit,
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but at the same time,
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it's not because I actually
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do just want to be proud of
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myself and have fun.
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And you know what I mean?
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The competitor part,
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that's in the subconscious.
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That's already there.
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That's second nature.
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When I get onto the floor, grr,
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I'm ready to go.
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You know what I mean?
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But I need to not be like that.
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on the outside, I guess,
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I don't know how to explain it, but.
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Right.
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I,
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I think what you're trying to say is for
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you to be at your best when
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you're not in the,
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when you're not in the corral,
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you need to be chill.
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The minute the corral comes
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and you march to the field,
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the switch has to flip.
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Yeah.
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And for you, that's,
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that's the best version of Hattie.
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Yeah, I would say so.
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Just some housekeeping here.
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COO one was how do you have support?
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Big fan here.
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It's in the making.
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Yes.
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And I appreciate it very much.
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Your boy, Tristan,
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that pick of you and Kelly
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is still my favorite pick from the,
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that semifinal.
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I know I want to cry every time I see it.
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My favorite pick is when I
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interviewed you and you,
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That was good.
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So I want to get into NorCal
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later because there's a lot
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to unpack there.
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But I want to talk about
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that you are now a
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multi-time CrossFit Games competitor.
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A lot of people have made it
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to the Games once.
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That pool comes down when
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you talk about multi-time.
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What does that mean to you?
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it's surreal I mean it still
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kind of felt like a dream
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afterwards um I kind of I
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don't know my brain was all
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over the place like I
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really did it you know I
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really just wanted to prove
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to myself that I could do
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it and even though I had
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that injury and stuff I
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just I wanted to so bad you
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know and that's why it was
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such a roller coaster before ncc because
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I just wanted to make it again.
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So, so bad.
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And I want some days, I mean,
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there was a lot of days in
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a row that I just didn't
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think that I was even going
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to go to NCC at all.
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And then all of a sudden it
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kind of started getting
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like a little bit of this
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where it was like, Oh,
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one day I would feel really good.
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Okay.
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I can do this.
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I can go win this thing.
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Cause I'd be feeling so good.
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And then all of a sudden the
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next day it would just be
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back to normal where I was.
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I'm like, Oh,
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not going you know what I
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mean and it would be a
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roller coaster so I have
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notes that I want to unpack
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that part yeah so athletes
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don't talk about injuries
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so whatever you want to
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share is up to you but I've
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heard rumor um and not from
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tristan I want everybody to
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know this is nothing
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official truly like I've
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heard this in chats um I
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heard that you were injured
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And that you had to play it
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safe this year and really
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NorCal was your option
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because you needed that
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rest for the injury that you had.
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Fact or fiction?
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Fact.
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And honestly, I don't know why people,
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I mean,
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obviously I'm not going to go into
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the nitty gritty because you don't need,
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I don't need to explain
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myself and you don't need to know what,
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It's all about like, if you want to know,
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we can talk about it later, but I don't,
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but I also don't know why
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people don't talk about it.
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I don't get that.
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Maybe, I don't know.
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Do you know why people don't?
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I mean, maybe again, I don't know.
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I just don't understand.
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So I know in team sports,
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it's considered a sign of
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weakness to talk about.
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People think it's an excuse.
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So if you talk about an injury,
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it's like I'm making an excuse.
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And I know that that's not you.
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You're just being you.
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I just am too honest and I
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tell everybody about
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anything and it's literally
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just yeah I do have one but
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I'm working through it and
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yeah it's it's also like
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look at what I was able to
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go do still with it and
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it's not if I didn't make
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it I wouldn't have only
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been like it's because of
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this it would have been you
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know I don't know I it's
19:17
just a weird it's just a
19:20
weird thing I feel like
19:22
it's almost important to
19:23
talk about even just a
19:24
little bit because people
19:25
are going through the same thing.
19:28
And if they are,
19:28
then maybe I can help
19:30
somebody or maybe someone can help me.
19:32
You know what I mean?
19:33
Because it is a,
19:34
an emotional roller coaster
19:36
and a lot of it is
19:38
emotional and or mental,
19:40
you know what I mean?
19:41
And so it's kind of hard to
19:42
be in the dark and alone
19:44
when you're feeling like this.
19:46
So,
19:47
I feel like for me,
19:48
it's almost like therapy to
19:49
get it out and be like, yeah, I am,
19:51
but I'm still, you know, it,
19:53
it's really sucks,
19:54
but I'm still working through it.
19:56
And I'm working with so many
19:58
different people to try to
20:00
get this thing healed up.
20:02
So I feel better.
20:03
I mean,
20:03
but we all have niggles no matter what,
20:06
whether it's a tear or just
20:07
something hurting every day.
20:09
I feel like most people have that.
20:12
Sure.
20:12
You might not want to talk about it, but
20:15
I'm sure everybody has something.
20:18
Yeah.
20:18
My approach has always been,
20:20
if you want to talk to me about it,
20:22
I'm here to listen and I'm here to,
20:24
you know,
20:24
and if you want it off the record,
20:26
it would remain off the record.
20:27
That's how I deal with everybody.
20:30
Um,
20:31
I'm not going to press you for any of
20:33
that information.
20:33
That's the way I view it as
20:35
my place in the media space.
20:37
Um, cause I'm pro athlete.
20:39
Um, but, um,
20:43
but what I've heard is it
20:44
was a shoulder injury, possibly a labrum.
20:48
And that what concerned me
20:51
about that is upper body
20:53
pulling is something you're
20:54
really good at.
20:56
And something that can
20:57
affect that is a bum shoulder with that.
21:06
Are you willing to say it's a shoulder?
21:10
Yeah,
21:11
there's some stuff going on in that
21:14
area for sure.
21:15
There's a bunch of things
21:16
going on and like the whole
21:18
pulling thing.
21:20
It's so it's such a weird
21:21
injury because some pulling
21:23
exercises I could do and
21:25
some I couldn't do.
21:26
Snatches felt great, you know,
21:28
but then cleans didn't kind of thing,
21:30
you know, it's just weird.
21:32
There was, it just was a weird,
21:34
it's just a weird thing
21:36
because certain things that
21:37
you think wouldn't feel good,
21:39
did feel good.
21:40
And then other things, you know,
21:41
vice versa.
21:42
So, yeah.
21:45
And shoulders are bizarre because,
21:47
and Jamie shared this on air.
21:50
Jamie went through a
21:51
shoulder injury last year
21:52
during the season and the
21:54
snatch is what felt weird
21:55
to her and on the rings.
21:58
So muscle ups felt really wonky to her.
22:02
She could do them,
22:03
but they didn't feel right.
22:05
See,
22:05
and I didn't do ring muscle ups for
22:06
like five months.
22:09
I started putting them in a
22:10
couple weeks before NCC, you know,
22:13
but it's crazy because they
22:15
felt good in the competition.
22:17
So again,
22:18
I was able to do some pulling stuff.
22:19
So maybe that transferred over and maybe,
22:22
maybe that's your sign of
22:24
your body telling you, Hey,
22:26
we need to take a rest on this.
22:28
You know,
22:28
sometimes these things happen
22:30
because you might be
22:31
pushing too hard or you
22:32
might not being smart with
22:34
you know, accessories,
22:35
like not doing accessories
22:37
and not doing this,
22:37
only doing the big things.
22:39
And sometimes this stuff is
22:40
just your body telling you, Hey,
22:42
let's like pull back a little bit.
22:47
So you've heard of the sickness, wellness,
22:53
fitness continuum that they
22:55
teach at the CrossFit L one.
22:59
I probably should,
23:00
but I haven't taken mine in
23:01
like six years.
23:02
Yeah.
23:03
So it's basically like the
23:05
more fit you become,
23:07
the better your body can
23:09
handle like falling back.
23:11
And if you're all the way to
23:13
like fitness level, if you have an injury,
23:16
you only fall back to like
23:19
partway back to wellness.
23:21
Not if an average Joe would
23:23
have the same injury,
23:24
they'd be down to sickness.
23:26
Right.
23:29
With upper body pulling
23:30
being one of your strengths.
23:34
And if that's where the injury was,
23:36
then your fitness was so
23:38
high at that level that you,
23:40
you could almost afford to
23:41
take time off with the pendulum,
23:43
just swinging slightly back
23:46
towards wellness.
23:47
Right.
23:49
That actually makes a lot of sense.
23:51
And that's kind of how I
23:52
looked at it was like, not that exactly,
23:55
but pretty much, you know, Hey,
23:58
I've already gotten so much capacity.
24:00
I mean,
24:00
I was nervous for sure with like
24:02
rings and stuff.
24:03
Oh no, I'm,
24:04
It's going to be back to me
24:06
not even knowing how to do
24:07
a ring muscle-up.
24:08
But you always think the worst.
24:10
You know what I mean?
24:11
Oh, the world is ending.
24:13
No, you're going to be fine.
24:16
Yeah.
24:18
CrossFit says pro sports
24:20
include injuries and are
24:22
mainly made public for betting.
24:25
But Hattie's Canadian and
24:26
those hockey guys tell us
24:28
after the Stanley Cup.
24:30
Oh, yeah.
24:30
I played the last six
24:31
matches with a broken leg.
24:33
Yeah.
24:35
That's what, that's what the cold ones do.
24:37
Yeah.
24:39
Um, that's funny.
24:40
In hockey, they don't even,
24:41
they just tell you like,
24:43
I have an upper body injury
24:44
or I have a lower body injury.
24:45
They don't even tell you if it's a leg,
24:47
a foot, a knee.
24:48
Right.
24:49
Right.
24:50
So, um, yeah, in hockey,
24:55
Other sports like soccer, I had an injury.
24:57
It's crazy.
24:58
Maybe you don't tell people
25:00
because of stuff like this too in soccer.
25:03
I mean,
25:03
this was apparent because I had to
25:06
have my hand wrapped.
25:07
So I cut my hand here,
25:09
like my thumb really bad
25:11
and I had stitches all down
25:12
here and we had a soccer game.
25:13
So in college and I had to
25:16
wrap it all up and I was playing soccer.
25:19
I think I was playing
25:20
offense and then the D girl
25:21
was right beside me and she
25:24
just grabbed my hand and
25:26
squeezed it as hard as she
25:28
could because she just
25:30
wanted to break the
25:30
stitches or hurt me more or whatever.
25:32
So she knew of that injury
25:34
and then she was trying to make it worse.
25:37
And I just thought that is savage.
25:41
Man,
25:42
it's almost like they're becoming high
25:43
rocks.
25:44
No, I'm just kidding.
25:46
You and your high rocks.
25:48
Did you see what happened at
25:49
High Rocks this weekend?
25:49
Where Hunter McIntyre gave a
25:52
hip check to a guy?
25:54
What?
25:54
While they were running?
25:58
Yeah.
25:59
I didn't see that.
26:00
The guy was bouncing in and
26:01
out of traffic and trying
26:03
to get around Hunter the
26:05
whole time and definitely
26:07
not following race etiquette.
26:08
So he just... Yep.
26:13
And they qualified Team USA
26:16
and they lost the medal.
26:20
Yeah.
26:20
So yeah, that just happened this weekend.
26:23
That's why I was making the joke.
26:25
That's pretty savage too.
26:28
Girls can be savage and in sports,
26:31
even rugby.
26:32
I almost broke my back once
26:33
because these girls were
26:35
not letting up on the scrum.
26:38
And I actually had to grab
26:39
this girl's hair and just
26:41
start reefing up.
26:42
Cause like when you go into the scrum,
26:44
it's the three people in the front,
26:45
right?
26:45
And I was the middle of the hook.
26:47
And when we went in,
26:48
it kind of went a little
26:50
bit off where my back was
26:52
feeling like this and they
26:53
just kept pushing and
26:54
pushing and pushing.
26:56
And so my back just kept
26:57
squeezing and I felt like I
26:59
was going to break my back.
27:00
So I just yelled at them.
27:01
You know,
27:02
I was trying to get the ref's attention,
27:03
but he can't hear anything
27:05
because all the girls are
27:05
screaming to like, whatever, get the ball,
27:07
blah, blah, blah, whatever.
27:09
So I'm yelling at the girls,
27:10
straighten out, straighten out.
27:12
And they were like, no.
27:13
And like,
27:14
people are punching each other
27:16
under their kicking shins, whatever.
27:18
So I just grabbed this
27:19
girl's hair over here and
27:20
start wreathing it up, up, up, up,
27:24
up until finally we just were straight.
27:28
But I had two men, my back.
27:31
I was gonna break that thing
27:33
see you're ready to to do
27:34
high rocks next weekend now
27:36
I'm ready I'm ready to
27:38
check some girls into the
27:40
into the wall hey grab them
27:42
by the hair yeah um have
27:47
you ever thought about
27:47
doing high rocks like
27:48
you're good at like those
27:50
movements yeah I love
27:51
running I would love to try
27:53
one sometime for sure yeah
27:57
um that's never going to be
27:58
a thing for me to way too much running
28:01
There's so much running.
28:02
So much running.
28:04
Yeah, I'm out on that.
28:08
So you're going through and
28:11
you say that the mental
28:12
aspect of the injury is real.
28:17
When did you know for sure
28:20
you'd be able to do NCC?
28:27
A couple weeks before NCC.
28:30
I was feeling really good
28:32
for like three days
28:33
straight and that's when my
28:35
that's when I thought okay
28:37
you know let's do this I
28:38
want to go and then the
28:40
next day I was working out
28:43
it felt like shit and I
28:47
just burst out in tears and
28:49
I was just sitting there
28:50
didn't know what to do and
28:51
I just thought wow I'm not
28:53
going I guess and then I
28:55
ended up calling my mindset coach and
28:57
He calmed me down and he just told me,
28:59
dude,
28:59
you don't have to make a decision
29:01
right now.
29:02
You just focus on your training,
29:06
your rehab,
29:08
everything that you need to
29:11
work on before the comp.
29:14
And then you can make a
29:15
decision literally the day
29:16
before if you have to.
29:18
You could even go and back
29:20
out there if you had to.
29:21
You know what I mean?
29:23
And so he's just like,
29:23
there's so you do not have
29:25
to make that decision right now.
29:27
And that really helped me
29:30
and calmed me down.
29:32
It was hard because Jake and
29:33
I were road tripping.
29:34
So it's not like I could
29:36
make a decision right before.
29:38
But then at the same time, I was like,
29:39
you know what?
29:40
It's just money.
29:41
It's just time.
29:42
Like, it's just an extra couple days.
29:45
Whatever.
29:46
Let's go have this fun road trip.
29:47
If we get there and can't do it, then oh,
29:51
well, you know.
29:52
And so I just made the decision.
29:54
Let's do this.
29:57
So you mentioned your mindset coach.
30:00
Do you turn to anybody else
30:02
in your group for support
30:04
during that time?
30:05
Is Jake there to listen?
30:07
Or is it better that you
30:09
keep that out of the relationship?
30:11
Or do you call Tristan?
30:14
Or is it just, you know, for these cases,
30:16
the mindset coach is where I got to go?
30:20
Yeah, I did talk to a few people.
30:23
Like I talked to Tristan, Amanda,
30:25
I talked to Jake and
30:27
You know,
30:28
it's hard because everyone has
30:29
different opinions,
30:30
but I do appreciate them
30:32
because I am able to kind
30:34
of look at everybody's and
30:36
and then form my own
30:37
opinion through people's.
30:39
But I just knew that my
30:40
mindset coach would kind of
30:41
bring me back down and
30:44
level me kind of because
30:46
that's just what he does.
30:47
And he there's no bullshit with him.
30:49
So he'll tell you how it is.
30:51
And I just knew that's how it would be.
30:53
So I called him right away and yeah, he,
30:56
he right away just was able
30:57
to kind of calm me down.
30:59
But yeah, I do,
31:00
I do go to other people for sure.
31:03
Jake also calms me down and
31:05
kind of looks at things
31:06
really objectively and, you know,
31:08
he's just got a logical brain.
31:10
So he's just,
31:12
he'll pretty much tell you how it is too.
31:14
He's pretty similar to my
31:15
mindset coach as well.
31:16
He'll just,
31:17
tell it to you straight.
31:18
So sometimes I hate it
31:20
because I am very emotional about things.
31:23
But yeah.
31:28
Cross fat wants to know,
31:30
is that guy coaching Emily Rolfe too?
31:32
Yeah.
31:35
Yeah.
31:35
I thought, I thought we talked about that.
31:38
Yeah.
31:38
He's amazing.
31:39
And Alex Kazan too.
31:41
Oh, wow.
31:43
He was, he was all over NCC.
31:44
Yeah.
31:44
Yeah.
31:46
Um,
31:48
and I know that Alex has attributed a
31:50
lot to him and I know you have,
31:53
and I know Emily has, um,
31:55
so that guy must be really damn good.
31:58
He's amazing.
31:59
The second we got on a call back then,
32:02
I did not like spending
32:03
money on myself on.
32:06
Things to make me feel better, you know,
32:08
like going to counseling or
32:09
going to do this for myself.
32:11
I was just, no, I can't do it.
32:14
The second we got on a call
32:16
and talked and he just told
32:18
me how it was and what it
32:19
was going to look like and
32:20
all this stuff.
32:21
I,
32:21
he didn't even tell me a price and I
32:22
just was like, okay, we're doing it.
32:24
I don't even care what it
32:25
costs where I want to work with you.
32:28
And the second we started
32:30
working together on that same call,
32:32
he gave me homework.
32:34
We started right then and there.
32:35
I was in Bali at the time.
32:37
Um,
32:37
and just even right away after the
32:40
first couple of days, I started, you know,
32:43
seeing changes and it was helping a lot.
32:46
And yeah, I just,
32:47
I'll always be so grateful
32:49
for that and for him.
32:51
So you chose to road trip to
32:53
Northern California.
32:54
What kind of a trip is that?
32:58
So for us, it's a nineteen hour drive,
33:02
but we took a tiny bit of a
33:04
detour and went to Tahoe Lake.
33:07
So it was maybe just an extra couple,
33:09
maybe an hour or two extra.
33:12
And I'm so glad that we did
33:14
because Tahoe Lake was beautiful.
33:17
We stayed right on the Nevada border,
33:19
which I didn't know that it
33:20
was in both Nevada and California.
33:22
It was funny because on the way,
33:24
Jake and I were like,
33:25
is it in Nevada or is it in California?
33:27
And I said California and he said Nevada.
33:29
And then when we saw that it was in both,
33:31
we were both like, wow, we're both right.
33:33
Yeah.
33:35
But it was beautiful.
33:36
We did some hikes and just relaxed,
33:39
did a little beach day as well.
33:42
Was that good to get your
33:43
mind right going into the competition?
33:46
For sure.
33:47
Yeah.
33:47
I love that kind of stuff.
33:50
You've always told me that
33:52
in the first year we met,
33:54
you said you spent too much
33:55
time in the gym and not
33:56
enough time getting outside
33:58
the gym to like clear your head.
34:01
So do you make sure that you take time?
34:05
to get outside the gym,
34:06
like on your trip to the event?
34:11
Um, yeah,
34:12
like that's why we did that for sure.
34:15
Um, even in games training last year,
34:17
I tried to get to the
34:18
mountains as much as I
34:19
could go out for a mountain
34:21
run with my brother.
34:22
He loves running in the
34:23
mountains and I do too.
34:24
So I'll try to go with him
34:26
as much as possible.
34:27
And, um,
34:28
I live right by some coolies out here.
34:31
I try to walk in those
34:32
coolies just about every day.
34:35
Cause they're just beautiful.
34:37
Coolie.
34:38
Okay.
34:39
So I tried to explain this
34:41
last year during semifinals
34:43
and I just did not know how
34:44
to explain it.
34:45
So it's like a, it's like a,
34:51
it's kind of like a Canyon.
34:52
Yes.
34:53
It looks like the grand Canyon,
34:54
but on the tiniest scale.
34:56
Okay.
34:58
Yeah.
34:59
It's like a little Valley,
35:00
but it's got like pretty steep.
35:03
Yeah.
35:03
It's like a Canyon.
35:04
I would say.
35:06
We've got a river that goes through it,
35:09
the Old Man River.
35:12
There's tons of trails.
35:13
You can go mountain biking
35:15
in the coolies and lots of
35:17
trail running and stuff like that.
35:20
It kind of sounds like the Badlands.
35:23
In South Dakota,
35:25
it's like a mini Grand Canyon.
35:28
You can walk down into it
35:30
and there's trails and
35:33
stuff like that through it.
35:34
Yeah.
35:34
Pretty much like that.
35:36
My daughter and I visited
35:37
those on the way to Montana.
35:39
Okay.
35:40
Yeah.
35:41
So they're beautiful.
35:43
Um,
35:43
we're pretty lucky to have them here
35:45
for sure.
35:47
Yeah.
35:47
I think they're,
35:48
they're formed by glaciers, uh,
35:51
and volcanic, we were told.
35:54
Okay.
35:55
We have a lot of, um, um,
35:57
ammonite or is it am a light ammonite?
36:00
Those rocks with, um,
36:02
it's got like fossils, shell fossils,
36:06
and then they're really
36:07
sparkly and colorful.
36:08
We've got a lot of that in our,
36:10
in our coolies, which is really cool.
36:13
Coolies just sounds fun.
36:15
Yeah.
36:16
They're awesome.
36:17
Yeah.
36:17
All right.
36:19
Well, cool.
36:21
So you make,
36:21
you make that a priority in
36:23
your training now.
36:25
Yeah.
36:27
I try to anyway.
36:29
Clock is informing me we
36:30
have coolies in the U.S.
36:32
In fact, we have the largest coolie,
36:34
the Grand Coolie, because we're America.
36:38
Yes, everything is bigger in America.
36:39
It's wild.
36:40
Actually, we went to Twin Falls.
36:42
Have you ever heard of Twin Falls,
36:45
Montana or Idaho?
36:47
Twin Falls, Idaho.
36:49
think it's in idaho actually
36:50
but we went there and
36:52
that's the first time I've
36:53
been there and wow there I
36:55
don't know if they call it
36:56
a coolie but it looks like
36:57
our cooler coolies but just
36:58
bigger oh so beautiful and
37:03
a huge bridge that goes
37:04
over them people base jump
37:07
off the bridge yeah it's
37:08
wild yeah I'm gonna have to
37:11
check it out um
37:13
You know,
37:13
now that my daughter lives out there,
37:14
we're going to try to make
37:15
more drives out.
37:17
Well, not drive, fly out there.
37:19
You should for sure.
37:21
Because Great Falls and
37:22
Helena is really close to Great Falls.
37:24
Well, kind of close.
37:26
And Helena is beautiful as well.
37:28
I went there firefighting
37:30
and did a whole stint there.
37:32
I think we were there for eighteen days,
37:33
actually, but just so beautiful.
37:36
And there's this one hike there.
37:37
So these smokejumpers died
37:39
in nineteen forty nine.
37:42
and there's thirteen of them
37:45
and it's like out in the
37:46
the boonies you can either
37:47
go there by river or they
37:50
actually gave us one day
37:52
off to do this hike because
37:53
obviously we're all
37:54
firefighters and they
37:55
wanted us to see it because
37:56
it's in their backyard.
37:58
It was one of the most
37:59
emotional hikes I've ever
38:01
done though because it's
38:03
this really steep hill so
38:05
this fire had happened out here
38:08
the hill kind of goes like this.
38:10
It was over here.
38:11
And then the fire jumped.
38:13
So they smoke jumped and
38:14
they were on this hill.
38:15
So they were planning on
38:16
going up and working on it
38:18
because if a fire comes down a hill,
38:20
it's going to go pretty slow.
38:22
But if it goes up a hill,
38:23
it just rips up a hill, right?
38:25
So they landed over here and
38:27
they were going to go work on it.
38:28
But what had happened was
38:29
the fire jumped behind them
38:32
and started coming up this hill.
38:34
Like it is a steep hill,
38:36
even just walking with no gear.
38:39
It was intense.
38:40
So just imagine these
38:42
thirteen boys running up
38:45
this hill and that back
38:46
then they didn't really
38:47
know that if you're in the black,
38:50
like something that had already burnt,
38:52
then you're going to be safe.
38:54
So this leader, he decides to.
38:57
light a match.
38:58
It's the, I got to send you this song.
39:00
It's so emotional,
39:01
but he lights this match lights,
39:03
this fight or this grass
39:05
that's like waist high.
39:06
And he tries to tell them all, Hey,
39:08
light yourself a fire, get in it.
39:11
I don't know if it's going to work,
39:12
but we're just do it.
39:13
You know what I mean?
39:14
And they were all like, no way.
39:15
And start trying to run up
39:17
this mountain and
39:18
And the fire just came up and he lived.
39:20
And one other guy that
39:21
decided to try the fire thing,
39:24
them two lived and the other guys died.
39:27
And it's just,
39:28
there's monuments along the
39:31
hill going up it.
39:32
And one guy was so close to
39:34
getting over that hump and
39:35
living and he died at the top.
39:38
It's just, yeah, it's wild.
39:43
Wow.
39:44
That was really intense, but I get really,
39:47
I love firefighting.
39:48
So I just get really intense about it,
39:51
but it was cool.
39:52
Well,
39:53
and you guys are going through the
39:54
fire fires right now.
39:56
I know my daughter,
39:57
like they get a lot of the
39:58
smoke in Montana right now
40:00
from the Canadian wildfires.
40:04
Yeah.
40:04
Jake's on a couple right now.
40:06
Actually he, he texted me earlier and said,
40:08
sorry, if I'm not messaging you back,
40:11
I'm on some fires.
40:12
So yeah.
40:15
A Clock One Snow,
40:16
was that the smoke and
40:17
temper disaster that Norman
40:18
MacLean wrote a book about
40:20
young men and fire?
40:22
Ooh, I'm not sure,
40:23
but I would like to check that out.
40:29
Yeah.
40:31
That's intense.
40:32
You told that story well.
40:34
Thanks.
40:35
so here's a segue something
40:38
else that was intense was
40:39
the ncc um here it is it's
40:43
your one shot to make the
40:45
games because of the way
40:46
your your season played out
40:48
you had to put all of your
40:50
chips in one basket and and
40:52
go for it what did that add
40:55
attention to the season or
40:57
was it just hey this is we
41:00
knew I usually only get one
41:01
shot and this is my one shot
41:04
Yeah,
41:05
it did put a little like if Tristan
41:08
writes right now,
41:09
he's just going to be laughing.
41:10
But we got on to an Ascend call.
41:13
So I work for Ascend athlete
41:15
and we all get on a call every Wednesday.
41:19
And before we started our
41:20
meeting or whatever,
41:21
I just wanted all the coaches opinions,
41:23
too.
41:24
But I was just like, Tristan.
41:27
So I know the injury and everything,
41:29
but maybe we should go to
41:31
TFX or maybe we should do
41:33
the online training.
41:34
Cause like we need more opportunities.
41:38
And he was just like, dude,
41:39
we've already talked about
41:41
this last year.
41:42
You only got one shot.
41:44
So let's just do NCC like we
41:47
did last year.
41:49
We need to heal up.
41:50
And I was just freaking out a little bit,
41:52
you know, there's only two spots though.
41:54
The online takes eleven.
41:56
What if, you know what I mean?
41:58
And everyone kind of just
42:00
had the same opinion.
42:01
Maybe you should just wait
42:02
and like try to,
42:04
heal up a little bit more so
42:06
yeah they all kind of
42:07
calmed me down a little bit
42:08
and I just thought okay
42:09
whatever we got one shot
42:12
let's do it so you get to
42:14
ncc and it turns into a
42:17
flat out dog fight a dog
42:20
fight where there were four
42:24
of you within a point of
42:28
each other for most of the weekend
42:33
And truly going into the last event.
42:36
Yeah.
42:40
Alex Kazan, who had kind of taken off.
42:46
Bye.
42:46
Yeah.
42:46
And then there's you,
42:47
Kristen Holta and Carolyn
42:49
Prevo all within a point of
42:54
each other for that last spot.
42:57
And you're going, I didn't even know.
43:01
Probably best.
43:01
You didn't know.
43:03
Going into the last event,
43:04
it was whoever wins the
43:05
event wins the spot.
43:09
I did know that because I had to ask.
43:12
I just,
43:13
I don't love looking at the
43:14
leaderboard because when I
43:15
see people's names,
43:19
around me, I tend to,
43:21
I'm definitely working on it,
43:23
because I did accidentally
43:24
see a couple things.
43:26
And I just changed my
43:27
mindset around it real quick.
43:29
You know what I mean?
43:30
I accidentally opened up
43:31
Instagram or something.
43:32
And I saw that Holta and
43:34
Gazan were in first and second,
43:36
which I had no,
43:37
I thought I was still in second.
43:38
And then I, I just thought instantly, like,
43:41
it did
43:42
I was nervous about it at first,
43:44
but then I just quickly changed it.
43:46
I was like, nope, that's not even true.
43:47
You know, I mean, obviously it's true,
43:49
but I just instantly told my mind, no,
43:52
that's not true.
43:53
I'm in second.
43:54
You know what I mean?
43:54
Or just whatever I was doing in my brain,
43:56
I was just like, ah, whatever.
43:58
It doesn't even matter.
43:59
It's fine.
44:01
So yeah,
44:02
I just had to change my mindset
44:03
around it a bit.
44:05
So you go into this event
44:09
and it is Legless Rope Climbs.
44:11
It is meaningless box jumps, we thought,
44:17
and some cleans that get
44:18
heavier and reps go down.
44:22
Yeah.
44:25
I have a reel that I clipped.
44:29
from last night's show with
44:30
carolyn I want to play it
44:32
for you because she talks
44:34
about her strategy I think
44:35
in this clip and I want you
44:38
to hear what she thought of
44:39
the strategy and then I
44:40
want you to tell me what
44:41
your strategy was okay I'm
44:44
gonna try to share this if
44:49
would you have hit the all right
44:58
So here's Carolyn from last night's show.
45:02
And if I can hit the play button.
45:05
I don't miss two twenty five.
45:06
Like my competitors that I
45:08
was like that I was going
45:09
against Holta and Hattie
45:11
are are significantly
45:14
better than me on the legless.
45:17
So I knew that they were
45:18
going to be ahead of me.
45:19
So originally I was just
45:20
banking on thirty five and I was like,
45:23
I can hit that.
45:25
And I don't know if they will.
45:27
And then they lowered the
45:27
weights and I was like, no.
45:29
Yeah.
45:29
I just wish we could have
45:30
had a proper finish.
45:31
You, you talked about it plenty of times.
45:34
Um,
45:35
so that like we could have looked at
45:36
each other, you know, and it's like,
45:39
all right, who's going to do it.
45:41
All right.
45:42
And then with her setting up
45:43
at the same time,
45:44
like that would have been an epic finish.
45:46
Then there's so yeah.
45:53
I've heard that from a few
45:55
people and I joked around
45:56
with one person that
45:57
actually told me that too.
45:59
And I was just like, wow,
46:00
nobody wanted me to win, eh?
46:02
Because it just seemed like, oh,
46:04
they wanted more time.
46:05
But I totally get where
46:06
everyone is coming from.
46:07
That would have been awesome.
46:08
I mean, it was still a bit of a fight,
46:11
but she just didn't get her point.
46:13
plates on in time you know
46:15
didn't get there in time so
46:16
yes I get it and maybe if
46:18
we did have more time I
46:19
wouldn't have gone to the
46:20
bar so quick because I did
46:22
get on that bar really
46:23
quick I could have at least
46:25
taken a second um so it
46:27
would have been sick
46:28
because I do think that I
46:29
would have got that clean
46:30
for sure if I didn't pick
46:32
it up as fast um back in
46:34
the back I was cleaning that
46:36
no probable or no problem.
46:39
So it would have been a cool,
46:41
a cool ending if we both
46:43
kind of just would have been like,
46:44
who's going to do it first.
46:45
Who's going to get it.
46:46
You know what I mean?
46:47
Yeah.
46:47
I mean, I've said it,
46:50
I've said it a couple of times.
46:52
I was so torn.
46:54
The two people I'm probably
46:55
closest with in the entire
46:57
sport are going head to
46:59
head for the final ticket
47:01
to the CrossFit Games.
47:04
And you have been a part of
47:05
this channel with our shows from Bali.
47:08
Carolyn is a co-host on
47:10
another show that I do.
47:11
Like I am as close to you
47:13
two as anybody else in the space.
47:15
And I wanted you both to get it.
47:17
That was not possible, but I felt like,
47:20
I felt like all spectators
47:22
got cheated out of one of you finishing.
47:25
Yeah.
47:26
Cause you both had the
47:27
capability of lifting that bar.
47:29
I know.
47:30
And it was part of the workout.
47:32
It would have been cool to
47:32
see one of you finish the
47:34
proper way to get your ticket.
47:37
Yeah.
47:37
I mean,
47:38
it would have been cool to see more
47:39
people finish.
47:40
I feel like on a ending
47:43
workout like that to not
47:46
nobody finishing except for one person.
47:48
That's kind of, I don't know.
47:50
It doesn't feel right.
47:53
Right.
47:55
so and it doesn't diminish
47:57
the fact that you got your
47:58
ticket you did what you
47:59
needed to do you were much
48:00
quicker on the legless rope
48:02
climbs and you got to the
48:04
last bar before anybody
48:06
else but alex so you earned
48:08
your ticket in the the
48:10
rules of the game and it
48:11
doesn't diminish that at
48:12
all I just think in a
48:15
weekend where a lot of
48:16
things went haywire at norcal
48:20
to end this incredible
48:23
competition between these
48:24
four women that we didn't
48:27
get to see them finish.
48:29
Yeah.
48:30
Was, was robbing the fans of an Epic,
48:33
Epic climax to the story.
48:36
Yeah, for sure.
48:38
And I, I definitely see that too.
48:42
Yeah.
48:43
It was just kind of one
48:44
thing after the next.
48:45
So it only makes sense that
48:47
the last one had to be like that.
48:48
No, just kidding.
48:49
Yeah.
48:52
And yours turned out to be
48:53
like way less controversial
48:55
than the men's finish.
48:57
I know.
48:58
I feel sad for Nate.
48:59
And so like when you're in a
49:03
competition where all that
49:05
chaos is going on,
49:07
do you notice it or do you
49:09
just keep your head down
49:11
and do what's in front of you?
49:17
I think I get myself into it a little bit.
49:20
Like,
49:21
I try to stay out of it.
49:23
A lot of the times I stay
49:24
pretty close to the venue.
49:25
So with, with this venue,
49:27
I was six minutes away and
49:28
after every event,
49:29
I would just go straight to my hotel.
49:31
go clean up, have a little rinse,
49:34
get new clothes on and just relax,
49:36
have my food or whatever.
49:38
But with the Gator event,
49:39
I let it get to me a little bit.
49:41
I wanted to stay and watch a couple more.
49:43
I wanted to watch my friend
49:44
Gucci and a couple other people go.
49:49
And I let it get to me a little bit.
49:52
I talked to John and them and just,
49:55
I was a little bit livid on
49:56
them just not throwing out the event.
49:59
But then I got home, I cleared my head,
50:02
I chilled, and I was just like,
50:04
you know what?
50:05
Whatever they decide to do,
50:06
this is their event.
50:08
You can't change anything.
50:10
You just have to work with
50:12
what's going on.
50:13
And so just be done with it.
50:16
Yeah.
50:19
As a spectator where we just
50:20
sit here and...
50:22
wallow in what's going on
50:24
like and our friends are
50:26
out there on the course and
50:27
we're like how is this even
50:29
fair like when you look at
50:32
the ring muscle up shuttle
50:34
run and the cones aren't
50:36
even at the same distance
50:38
like you're just like how
50:40
could this happen yeah I
50:43
mean don't really hear
50:44
about that stuff until
50:45
after I didn't actually
50:45
know about the cones but
50:47
even just the run and
50:49
onto the rower ordeal and
50:51
all that kind of stuff it
50:52
just they could have done
50:54
that a lot differently but
50:55
again you I don't think
50:58
that there's an advantage
51:01
in just sitting there and
51:02
complaining about it you
51:03
just have to deal with what
51:05
cards you're given and then
51:06
figure it out after that
51:10
you know what I mean it's
51:10
just like if you get a no
51:12
rep you're not going to sit there and
51:14
well some people might get
51:16
really mad and complain
51:17
with their judge but I
51:18
don't think that there's a
51:20
you know an advantage of it
51:21
just finish the workout and
51:22
then maybe you can do an
51:24
appeal later or whatever
51:25
you know what I mean and
51:26
it's like whatever there
51:28
was a video of me maybe or
51:30
of getting a no rep on one
51:32
of the or I didn't get a no
51:34
rep but I'm not just gonna
51:35
sit there and be like
51:37
actually that was a no rep
51:38
I'm gonna do that that that
51:41
uh rep again you know what I mean
51:43
It's kind of just like you
51:44
have to just deal with what
51:46
you're given and just keep going.
51:49
When you're in the midst of it all,
51:52
it can be chaotic.
51:53
So you just have to try to
51:55
put on your blinders and
51:57
just do what you can,
51:58
if that makes sense.
52:01
Your coach says,
52:02
as much of a mess as it was,
52:05
just a no factor.
52:07
Doesn't do anybody good to
52:08
yell at the sky.
52:08
Yeah.
52:09
Yeah.
52:14
And it probably was more
52:16
frustrating for us as
52:17
spectators watching it all happen.
52:20
Because we're like
52:20
collecting all this data of
52:22
everything that's going wrong.
52:24
And we're just sitting there.
52:25
We're not thinking about
52:26
actually doing the event.
52:28
Right?
52:29
So it's just mounting up for us.
52:32
And I was really hard on
52:33
them all last week.
52:34
But then they did face the
52:35
crowd on Hiller's show last week.
52:38
Which was amazing.
52:39
Yeah.
52:40
And, and I'm a guy that fool me once.
52:44
Okay.
52:45
Shame on me.
52:47
And I'll give them another opportunity.
52:49
Yeah, for sure.
52:52
And that was good of them to
52:53
do that for sure.
52:54
And it's not like it was a crappy,
52:56
I think I love that kind of stuff anyways,
52:59
the chaos and the,
53:01
the workouts like that.
53:01
Cause in Bali,
53:02
we would go to these comps
53:03
and it would just be, you know,
53:06
I don't know.
53:06
It would just be fun and,
53:09
kind of that grassroots, whatever.
53:11
I love that.
53:11
But the fact that we were
53:13
taking people to the games,
53:14
it did need to be a little
53:15
bit more organized for sure.
53:18
But it's not to say that it
53:20
wasn't a fun competition or
53:22
the fans weren't amazing or, you know,
53:24
that there wasn't a
53:25
community there because all
53:27
of that was definitely there.
53:29
There was just some things
53:30
that maybe could have been
53:31
a little bit more organized
53:34
in getting people there, but.
53:37
Yeah,
53:37
I've always thought it was a fun
53:38
event and fun to watch and
53:41
I'm sure fun to participate in.
53:43
But when you start giving
53:44
tickets to the CrossFit Games,
53:46
you need to clean up the
53:48
business a little bit.
53:51
Yeah.
53:54
So because of,
53:56
because of going through
53:57
what you went through in the off season,
54:00
what was your favorite
54:01
moment of the weekend that
54:03
like proved to you that you
54:05
are okay and you are back?
54:12
I mean, the snatch event was electric.
54:14
I just, I love snatches.
54:16
So that was really fun.
54:18
And I was excited.
54:19
proud of how I executed and I won.
54:22
So that's obviously like, yeah,
54:25
obviously that was really cool.
54:27
But I think the ring muscle ups,
54:29
because I hadn't done rings
54:30
in probably five months,
54:33
I just was trying to go in
54:35
there and do some damage control.
54:37
And I actually ended up
54:38
placing pretty good and I
54:40
just stayed composed and I stuck to my
54:43
my plan.
54:43
You know what I mean?
54:44
It wasn't to do crazy high numbers.
54:47
They actually felt good.
54:48
So I was like, Oh, maybe I can do more,
54:49
but I, I came down.
54:51
You know what I mean?
54:52
I,
54:52
I stuck to more conservative numbers on
54:56
the rings because I just
54:57
didn't want to mess up in that way.
55:03
But yeah,
55:04
that one I was really proud of
55:06
and that one I felt, okay,
55:09
I can hold my own.
55:10
I'm here again.
55:13
Yeah.
55:14
I'm sure that felt great.
55:15
Was it, was the run a factor,
55:17
the shuttle run?
55:19
Not really.
55:21
It was kind of just an
55:24
annoyance to be honest.
55:28
Cross fat says the neon you
55:30
wore on Isabel made it even
55:31
cooler looking.
55:33
Oh yeah.
55:35
I thought go out with a bang
55:37
for the first event.
55:38
Yeah.
55:41
Um,
55:43
So that would have been day one, right?
55:46
Both Isabel and the muscle ups.
55:49
Yeah.
55:50
So that had to give you just
55:52
a huge sense of confidence
55:54
going into the weekend.
55:56
For sure.
55:57
Yeah, it did.
56:00
Uh, Jamie says, look good, feel good.
56:02
Oh yeah.
56:03
You know what it's about?
56:06
Well, it's funny.
56:06
Cause like I hang out with Jamie a lot.
56:09
Um,
56:11
She's one of those people
56:12
that wants to go back, rinse off,
56:14
change clothes.
56:15
And I know that that makes
56:16
you feel good going into
56:17
the next workout as well.
56:19
And that was a complaint
56:19
from the masters last year
56:20
because they only got like
56:22
two outfits for the whole week.
56:24
Oh, yeah.
56:24
I heard about that.
56:28
Like,
56:28
what are you supposed to do with that?
56:30
Right.
56:30
At least give them enough
56:31
for every single event.
56:34
Right.
56:34
So you can go back and freshen up and...
56:37
Get in dry clothes.
56:38
And if you don't do that, whatever,
56:39
that's not your thing.
56:40
But I just like it because
56:42
it just resets me for the next workout.
56:46
Yeah.
56:48
Either give them enough
56:49
clothes or don't require
56:50
them to wear them.
56:51
Yeah.
56:54
I agree with that.
56:56
And then you can shout out some sponsors.
56:59
Yeah.
57:00
I mean, that's what they did at WFP.
57:03
I wonder if they'll ever
57:04
change that or they'll just
57:05
let them do that at all times.
57:09
Do you would,
57:11
if you did not have the injury,
57:13
would you have tried to do WFP too?
57:17
Probably not.
57:18
To be honest, I'm,
57:19
I'm kind of just letting it
57:21
do its thing for this first
57:22
year and just see, I,
57:25
I kind of burnt myself out
57:26
this year with not too many comps,
57:28
but kind of too many comps.
57:30
And I went into, you know, water please.
57:32
That was the lap, my third comp.
57:34
And I just,
57:35
I went in with a very sour
57:36
attitude and I'm realizing that now,
57:39
and I'm just trying to
57:40
change my mindset around it
57:41
in the sense of, Hey,
57:43
if you're going to go do something,
57:44
then go do it.
57:45
You don't need to go there
57:46
and be a little sour puss about it.
57:49
You know what I mean?
57:50
And I think that's probably
57:52
what happened with the
57:53
injury is what I was
57:55
literally calling out to
57:56
the universe to injure me
57:57
because I didn't want to be there.
57:58
I didn't want to do that last event.
58:00
And then all of a sudden I,
58:02
I didn't do the last event
58:04
because I got hurt.
58:05
You know what I mean?
58:05
And then I but then I had to
58:07
pay for it by not doing team,
58:08
which I really wanted to do.
58:10
So I'm just realizing, hey,
58:13
if you're going to commit to something,
58:15
then go in with go in with
58:17
a better attitude and go have fun.
58:20
You know what I mean?
58:21
Or don't go at all.
58:26
That makes perfect sense.
58:27
And, and I've heard of,
58:28
and you're not the only
58:29
athlete that has told me
58:31
that Waterpalooza has,
58:34
I pointed this out too.
58:35
Like everybody yells at
58:37
NorCal for what happened this year.
58:39
Like Waterpalooza has had some,
58:40
has had some shit shows in their past.
58:42
They definitely have.
58:45
And, um,
58:47
And it would be tough.
58:48
Like I've talked to athletes
58:49
when I'm seeing them at the airport,
58:51
like I'm never coming here again.
58:53
I'm never doing this one again, you know,
58:55
and then they sign up for
58:56
next year and do it again.
58:57
But, um,
58:59
but that's how you felt at
59:00
Guadalupalooza this year.
59:01
You just didn't want to be there anymore.
59:04
Yeah.
59:05
It was kind of just over competing.
59:07
Yeah.
59:08
For Indy anyways.
59:10
What other off season events did you do?
59:13
I did Desert City Classic
59:15
and that one was fun but it
59:16
was hard because I was just traveling.
59:20
We had gone to Portugal,
59:22
Spain and then I went
59:24
straight there and I think
59:25
we landed like a day or two
59:27
before and then I got super
59:29
sick and then same kind of
59:30
thing I just because I was
59:33
sick and I just had been
59:34
traveling I just kind of
59:35
went in with a sour
59:36
attitude and again I just I shouldn't
59:40
have done that but I put
59:41
myself in that situation so
59:43
I should have either not
59:44
competed or but you just
59:46
feel like an obligation
59:47
because you're already
59:48
there you know what I mean
59:50
um so this year I've just
59:52
learned a lot and then what
59:55
was the other one oh battle
59:57
in the barracks that one
59:58
was a lot of fun that one
1:00:00
was with a community that
1:00:02
is close to me um only two hours away and
1:00:06
that one I had a lot of fun
1:00:08
with and I was so happy to be with,
1:00:10
with everybody that I know.
1:00:11
And yeah.
1:00:14
Yeah.
1:00:14
And that's a big deal
1:00:15
competition up where you're from.
1:00:17
Yeah.
1:00:19
Yeah.
1:00:19
And it's tight knit and just, I,
1:00:22
I really love it.
1:00:23
Yeah.
1:00:24
I, you know,
1:00:25
I've gotten to know most of
1:00:26
the girls who do that
1:00:26
competition be through the
1:00:27
semifinal interviews that I've done.
1:00:30
Yeah.
1:00:31
Like watching what I can
1:00:33
from that on Instagram and
1:00:35
different things.
1:00:35
So.
1:00:37
well you're going back to
1:00:38
the games it's you should
1:00:41
be able to get all in on
1:00:44
this one right yeah because
1:00:47
once you go you're there to
1:00:49
go all in um are you
1:00:51
excited about going to new
1:00:52
york I mean I guess so it's
1:00:56
just a new place I feel
1:00:57
like it doesn't feel like
1:01:01
I don't know when you think New York,
1:01:02
you think of the big crazy city.
1:01:04
So I have no idea what to
1:01:06
expect of Albany.
1:01:07
I haven't really looked into
1:01:08
it yet either.
1:01:09
So, but I heard the venue is really nice.
1:01:11
So yeah, I'm excited.
1:01:14
I don't really know what the
1:01:15
weather's like,
1:01:15
but I feel like we'll be
1:01:16
inside for most of it.
1:01:18
If not all of it,
1:01:20
maybe that first run one
1:01:21
might be outside.
1:01:23
Yeah.
1:01:24
I can't imagine you running
1:01:26
six miles inside Albany.
1:01:28
Yeah.
1:01:29
Hopefully it's outside or on,
1:01:31
I guess runners, but.
1:01:33
Six miles shuttle runs.
1:01:36
Oh my gosh.
1:01:38
All right, let's do it.
1:01:40
But it's going to be the
1:01:41
biggest arena they've had
1:01:43
for the CrossFit games period.
1:01:45
That's cool.
1:01:47
But I wish they could sell more seats.
1:01:49
I know.
1:01:51
I wish they could too.
1:01:53
CrossFit says Albany is more
1:01:55
like Madison without a
1:01:57
sweet college town scene.
1:01:59
Okay.
1:02:05
All right.
1:02:06
Yeah.
1:02:06
Well, hopefully we can sell more tickets.
1:02:10
I just feel like everyone's
1:02:11
kind of divided.
1:02:12
So I don't know.
1:02:12
It's hard.
1:02:16
There's a pending sale of CrossFit.
1:02:18
So it could sell before the
1:02:20
games and we have new
1:02:21
ownership and that could
1:02:23
change perspectives for people.
1:02:24
Who knows?
1:02:25
Yeah.
1:02:28
But now we know who the lineup is.
1:02:31
We know the thirty people.
1:02:32
Well, unofficially,
1:02:33
there's Lydia Fish and Yona Koski.
1:02:37
One last chance qualifier,
1:02:38
but that's not official yet.
1:02:40
So we know twenty nine for sure.
1:02:42
Too probable.
1:02:45
We're going and now, you know,
1:02:47
if your favorite person's
1:02:47
going and whether you should buy tickets,
1:02:50
book tickets, book flights, book Airbnbs,
1:02:53
whatever you need.
1:02:54
It'll be a party.
1:02:55
It will be.
1:02:57
Yeah, I have an Airbnb there this year.
1:03:00
It's like a ten-hour drive for me,
1:03:02
which is right on the
1:03:04
outskirts of how much I want to drive.
1:03:07
Yeah.
1:03:08
I know that was my first
1:03:09
drive coming home from NCC
1:03:11
because I went to Boise,
1:03:13
and it actually went by pretty quick.
1:03:14
It was pretty scenery,
1:03:15
so I think that kind of helps.
1:03:17
I don't know what your drive is like,
1:03:18
if there's some pretty scenery, but...
1:03:22
uh it's just scenery I've
1:03:24
grown up with because I'm
1:03:25
from western pennsylvania
1:03:28
so I will probably have to
1:03:29
go through like my hometown
1:03:30
to get there yeah um but I
1:03:35
don't mind the drive too
1:03:37
it's always the drive from
1:03:38
that's really hard yeah
1:03:40
like coming back to my
1:03:41
regular work life and my
1:03:43
regular work schedule and I
1:03:46
mean even flying too it's
1:03:48
just travel in general when
1:03:49
you come home you kind of think oh
1:03:52
Okay, we're back to reality.
1:03:55
Yeah.
1:03:57
So I got to figure it out,
1:03:58
but we did get a really nice Airbnb.
1:04:01
So stoked about that.
1:04:03
And I'm excited to see you there.
1:04:05
I'm so pumped you got your ticket.
1:04:08
Congratulations on that.
1:04:10
Congratulations on becoming
1:04:11
a multi-time CrossFit Games athlete.
1:04:14
Hell yeah.
1:04:16
Do you have goals for this CrossFit Games?
1:04:20
Or just...
1:04:23
I do,
1:04:23
but I think I'm going to keep them
1:04:24
here for now.
1:04:26
Um, yeah, obviously again,
1:04:30
whether it's bullshit or not,
1:04:31
I do just want to go and
1:04:32
make myself proud and have
1:04:34
fun because last year it
1:04:37
was just a little bit tainted and weird.
1:04:39
So I just,
1:04:40
I do want that experience of
1:04:42
being there and remembering it.
1:04:44
I mean, obviously I remember yes,
1:04:46
or last year,
1:04:47
like it was yesterday just
1:04:48
because there was so much emotions,
1:04:50
but I want to enjoy and
1:04:52
have like a really good time.
1:04:54
So that's one of the goals for sure.
1:04:57
Well,
1:04:57
my lunch show tomorrow will be about
1:04:59
how it's bullshit that
1:05:00
you're there to have fun.
1:05:02
Okay.
1:05:02
Perfect.
1:05:06
You know, just keep,
1:05:07
keep that rhythm going.
1:05:09
Yeah.
1:05:11
But we're excited for you.
1:05:12
As you know,
1:05:15
you've become a great friend of ours.
1:05:17
And I am super excited for you.
1:05:20
And can't wait to see you at the games.
1:05:22
And with that, guys,
1:05:24
thank you so much for being here.
1:05:26
You guys in the chat are always awesome.
1:05:28
You keep it lively.
1:05:30
And to go out on a low note, Clark says,
1:05:35
instead of the sweet college town scene,
1:05:37
it's got a dreary,
1:05:38
depressing state capital scene.
1:05:41
great thanks are you coming
1:05:43
clock I can't wait to meet
1:05:45
clock I've always wanted to
1:05:47
know who clock is yeah I
1:05:49
that's all I know people by
1:05:52
are their screen names I
1:05:54
know it's hilarious I'm like who is clock
1:05:57
Cause someone actually came
1:05:58
up to me at NCC and
1:06:00
introduced themselves and they were like,
1:06:01
yeah, I'm on Savon all the time.
1:06:02
And I love when you come on
1:06:03
to kill Taylor.
1:06:04
And I was like, Oh, what's your name?
1:06:05
And then he said his name
1:06:06
and I can't remember what it is,
1:06:08
but I was trying to remember, Oh,
1:06:09
do I see him in the chat?
1:06:10
And I'm like, what if that's clock or, or,
1:06:13
you know,
1:06:13
one of the other funny names
1:06:15
cross fat or whatever.
1:06:16
Yeah.
1:06:17
So I'll leave on this funny story,
1:06:19
and then there's a
1:06:20
congratulations for you.
1:06:21
I was at the games two years
1:06:23
ago in Madison,
1:06:24
and I'm running from one venue to another,
1:06:28
and someone yells, Scott, Scott.
1:06:30
And I turn around, and the person goes, hi,
1:06:32
I'm extra sloppy.
1:06:33
That's good.
1:06:38
Oh, my gosh.
1:06:39
Of all names to yell across
1:06:41
the CrossFit Games campus,
1:06:44
I'm extra sloppy.
1:06:49
everyone's like what um uh
1:06:50
jamie thank you jamie so
1:06:52
happy for you well with
1:06:55
that guys thank you so much
1:06:57
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1:06:57
chat you make it the best
1:06:59
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1:07:00
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1:07:02
see everybody tomorrow on
1:07:04
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