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The Politics of Star Wars: Insights from 'The Rise and Fall of the Galactic Empire' · Systematic Geekology

1:14
How
1:14
do
1:14
empires
1:16
rise
1:17
or
1:17
fall?
1:18
Well,
1:18
I
1:19
think
1:19
we
1:19
can
1:19
all
1:20
confess
1:21
that
1:21
that
1:21
gets
1:21
really
1:22
complicated
1:22
really
1:23
fast
1:23
when
1:24
it
1:24
comes
1:24
to
1:24
the
1:24
rise
1:25
and
1:25
the
1:25
fall
1:25
of
1:25
a
1:26
galactic
1:26
empire.
1:27
And
1:27
we
1:28
plan
1:28
to
1:29
get
1:29
into
1:29
all
1:29
that
1:30
on
1:30
this
1:30
episode
1:31
of
1:31
Systematic
1:32
Geekology.
1:34
Well,
1:34
friends,
1:34
you're
1:35
into,
1:35
you're
1:35
in
1:36
for
1:36
a
1:36
big
1:36
treat
1:36
this
1:37
evening.
1:37
Not
1:37
only
1:38
do
1:38
we
1:38
have
1:39
some
1:39
of
1:39
my
1:40
favorite
1:40
geekologists
1:41
here
1:41
on
1:41
this
1:41
episod,
1:43
not
1:43
only
1:44
do
1:44
we
1:44
have
1:44
a
1:44
crossover
1:45
with
1:46
friend
1:46
of
1:46
the
1:46
show,
1:47
Mark
1:47
Flowers
1:48
with
1:49
Grub
1:49
and
1:50
Grace
1:50
Podcast,
1:51
a
1:51
podcast
1:51
from
1:52
a
1:52
certain
1:52
point
1:52
of
1:53
view,
1:53
but
1:54
this
1:55
is
1:55
also
1:55
a
1:55
part
1:56
of
1:56
our
1:56
All
1:57
Reading
1:58
Counts
1:58
series.
1:59
We'll
1:59
explain
2:00
what
2:00
that
2:00
means
2:01
in
2:01
a
2:01
minute.
2:01
But
2:01
before
2:02
we
2:02
do
2:02
that,
2:03
let
2:03
us
2:03
share
2:03
with
2:04
you
2:04
that
2:04
if
2:04
you
2:04
are
2:04
on
2:04
a
2:04
laptop,
2:05
please
2:06
please
2:06
consider
2:06
rating
2:07
or
2:07
reviewing
2:07
our
2:08
show
2:08
on
2:08
podcast
2:09
podchaser
2:10
or,
2:10
or
2:11
Good
2:11
Pods.
2:12
This
2:12
will
2:12
help
2:12
gain
2:13
our
2:13
recognition
2:13
and,
2:14
you
2:14
know,
2:14
help
2:15
people,
2:15
help
2:15
us
2:15
get
2:16
into
2:16
people's
2:16
algorithms
2:17
and
2:17
search
2:17
engines.
2:18
If
2:18
you're
2:18
on
2:18
a
2:18
phone,
2:19
please
2:19
consider
2:20
rating,
2:20
reviewing
2:20
and
2:21
commenting
2:21
on
2:21
our
2:21
show
2:22
on
2:22
Apple
2:22
Podcasts
2:23
or
2:23
Spotify.
2:23
This
2:24
will
2:24
help
2:24
prioritize
2:26
our
2:26
show
2:26
in
2:27
these
2:27
apps
2:27
and
2:28
the
2:28
algorithms.
2:28
Thank
2:29
you
2:29
for
2:29
your
2:29
support.
2:29
And
2:30
we
2:30
want
2:30
to
2:31
thank
2:31
some
2:31
specific
2:32
people
2:32
for
2:32
supporting
2:33
the
2:33
show.
2:33
I
2:34
want
2:34
to
2:34
thank
2:34
Jonathan
2:35
Augustine,
2:36
thank
2:36
you
2:36
for
2:36
supporting
2:37
our
2:37
show.
2:38
And
2:38
Justin
2:39
Baritz,
2:39
Ethan
2:39
Overcash.
2:41
We
2:41
have
2:43
Erwin
2:44
Hardy.
2:45
Thanks,
2:45
Aaron,
2:46
thanks.
2:46
Thanks
2:47
for
2:47
supporting
2:48
the
2:48
show.
2:48
And
2:49
remember
2:49
that
2:49
you,
2:50
you
2:51
can
2:51
get
2:51
a
2:51
shout
2:52
out
2:52
if
2:52
you
2:52
support
2:52
our
2:53
show
2:53
for
2:53
just
2:54
$3
2:55
a
2:55
month.
2:56
And
2:56
when
2:56
you
2:57
support
2:57
our
2:57
show
2:57
and
2:58
support
2:58
series,
2:59
like
2:59
All
2:59
Reading
3:00
Accounts,
3:00
a
3:01
portion
3:01
of
3:01
those
3:01
donations
3:02
specifically
3:03
for
3:03
all
3:04
reading
3:05
counts
3:05
goes
3:05
to
3:05
our
3:05
local
3:06
libraries
3:06
because
3:07
we
3:07
believe
3:08
that
3:08
reading
3:08
is
3:08
important
3:09
and
3:09
libraries
3:10
are
3:11
important.
3:12
And
3:14
so
3:14
what
3:14
all
3:14
Reading
3:15
Counts
3:15
means
3:15
is
3:15
just
3:16
what
3:16
it
3:16
means,
3:16
what
3:17
it
3:17
says
3:17
in
3:17
the
3:17
title.
3:18
Whether
3:18
you
3:19
like
3:19
novels
3:20
or
3:20
short
3:20
stories
3:20
or
3:21
manga
3:21
or
3:21
graphic
3:22
novels.
3:22
I
3:22
think
3:22
it's
3:23
still
3:23
a
3:23
debate
3:23
whether
3:24
audiobooks
3:24
count
3:25
with
3:25
reading
3:25
or
3:25
not.
3:26
I
3:26
think
3:26
Joshua
3:26
can
3:27
maybe
3:27
have
3:28
a
3:28
take
3:28
or
3:28
a
3:29
bad
3:29
opinion
3:30
about
3:30
that,
3:30
but
3:30
I
3:31
think
3:31
he
3:31
could
3:31
share,
3:32
share
3:32
with
3:33
that.
3:33
But
3:33
that's
3:34
what
3:34
it
3:34
means.
3:34
We
3:34
like
3:34
to
3:34
lift
3:35
up.
3:35
We
3:35
are
3:35
all
3:35
geekologists
3:36
here
3:36
and
3:37
we
3:37
love
3:38
the
3:38
art
3:38
and
3:39
craft
3:39
of
3:39
storytelling
3:40
and
3:41
we
3:41
like
3:41
to
3:41
encourage
3:42
reading
3:42
and
3:42
all
3:43
reading
3:43
counts.
3:45
And
3:46
so
3:46
the
3:46
segue
3:47
into
3:47
all
3:47
reading
3:48
counts
3:48
in
3:48
this
3:48
episode,
3:49
why
3:49
this
3:49
is
3:49
an
3:50
all
3:50
Reading
3:50
counts
3:51
episode
3:51
is
3:51
because
3:52
our
3:52
good
3:53
friend
3:53
Mark
3:53
Flowers
3:54
said
3:54
he
3:55
sent
3:55
us
3:55
a
3:55
text
3:56
and
3:56
said,
3:56
hey,
3:57
have
3:57
you
3:57
guys
3:57
read
3:57
this
3:57
book,
3:57
the
3:58
Rise
3:58
and
3:58
Fall
3:58
of
3:58
the
3:59
Galactic
3:59
Empire?
3:59
I
3:59
was
4:00
like,
4:00
no,
4:00
I
4:00
haven't.
4:00
I
4:00
didn't
4:00
know
4:00
that
4:01
was
4:01
a
4:01
book.
4:01
I'm
4:01
a
4:01
Star
4:02
wars
4:02
fan.
4:02
Why
4:02
do
4:02
I
4:02
not
4:03
know
4:03
that
4:03
exists?
4:03
Well,
4:04
I
4:04
went
4:04
to
4:05
a
4:05
Barnes
4:05
and
4:05
Noble
4:06
and
4:06
I
4:06
found
4:06
it.
4:06
I
4:07
found
4:07
the
4:07
book.
4:07
It's
4:07
very
4:08
thick.
4:08
It's
4:08
like
4:08
a
4:09
World
4:09
War
4:09
II
4:10
history
4:10
book,
4:10
except
4:10
from
4:11
the
4:11
Star
4:11
wars
4:11
point
4:11
of
4:11
view.
4:12
And
4:12
I'm
4:12
a
4:12
huge,
4:13
huge
4:13
Star
4:13
wars
4:14
fan.
4:14
I'm
4:14
like,
4:14
you
4:14
know,
4:14
why
4:15
not,
4:15
why
4:15
not
4:15
go
4:15
even
4:16
deeper
4:16
into
4:17
the
4:17
rise
4:17
and
4:17
fall
4:17
of
4:18
the
4:18
Galactic
4:18
Empire?
4:19
Mark,
4:20
what
4:20
prompted
4:21
you
4:21
or
4:22
lured
4:22
you
4:22
to
4:22
send
4:23
us
4:23
that
4:23
text
4:23
and
4:24
why
4:24
did
4:24
you
4:24
want
4:24
to
4:25
talk
4:25
about
4:26
this
4:26
particular
4:27
book?
4:29
Well,
4:30
first,
4:30
this
4:30
goes
4:30
actually
4:31
beyond
4:31
the
4:31
text.
4:31
I
4:31
actually
4:32
brought
4:32
it
4:32
up
4:32
to
4:32
you
4:32
at
4:33
theology
4:33
Beer
4:34
Camp
4:34
and
4:34
the
4:34
response
4:35
I
4:35
got
4:35
from
4:35
some
4:35
of
4:36
you
4:36
was
4:37
that
4:37
I'm
4:37
not
4:38
that
4:38
big
4:38
of
4:38
a
4:39
Star
4:39
wars
4:39
fan
4:39
to
4:39
read
4:39
the
4:40
Star
4:40
wars
4:40
books.
4:42
Fast
4:42
forward,
4:43
here
4:44
we
4:44
are.
4:44
I'm
4:44
really
4:44
glad
4:44
we're
4:45
doing
4:45
this
4:45
episode
4:46
now.
4:47
So
4:47
it
4:47
may
4:47
or
4:48
may
4:48
not
4:48
be
4:48
a
4:48
surprise
4:49
of
4:49
fans
4:49
of
4:49
Star
4:49
wars
4:50
to
4:50
note
4:50
the
4:50
original
4:51
conception
4:51
of
4:51
Star
4:51
wars
4:52
was
4:52
very
4:53
political,
4:53
although
4:54
the
4:54
final
4:54
product's
4:55
political
4:55
nature
4:56
was
4:56
more
4:56
subtle
4:57
or
4:57
non
4:57
existent
4:58
in
4:58
the
4:58
eyes
4:58
of
4:58
the
4:58
average
4:59
movie
4:59
viewer.
5:00
I'm
5:00
a
5:00
firm
5:01
believer
5:01
that
5:01
fiction
5:02
has
5:02
the
5:02
ability
5:02
to
5:03
convey
5:03
powerful
5:04
concepts,
5:04
ideas,
5:05
commentary,
5:06
and
5:07
more
5:07
palpable
5:08
ways
5:08
than
5:08
straight
5:08
up
5:09
history
5:09
lessons.
5:10
I
5:10
believe
5:11
that
5:11
George
5:11
Lucas
5:12
thought
5:12
the
5:12
same
5:13
way,
5:13
as
5:13
well
5:13
as
5:14
Chris
5:14
Kempshall,
5:15
which
5:15
is
5:15
the
5:15
author
5:15
of
5:16
the
5:16
Rise
5:16
and
5:16
Fall
5:16
of
5:16
the
5:16
Galactic
5:17
Empire.
5:17
And
5:18
compared
5:19
to
5:19
other
5:19
sci
5:19
fi
5:19
franchises
5:20
with
5:20
political
5:21
commentary,
5:21
Star
5:21
wars
5:22
succeeded
5:22
in
5:22
the
5:23
most
5:23
masterful
5:23
way.
5:24
I
5:24
would
5:24
believe
5:26
an
5:26
alternative
5:27
title
5:27
for
5:27
this
5:27
book
5:27
really
5:28
could
5:28
have
5:28
been
5:28
Star
5:29
A
5:29
History
5:29
from
5:30
a
5:30
Certain
5:30
Point
5:30
of
5:30
View.
5:31
It
5:32
shows
5:32
how
5:32
history
5:32
can
5:33
look
5:33
much
5:33
differently
5:34
when
5:34
viewed
5:34
from
5:34
a
5:34
certain
5:34
point
5:35
of
5:35
view.
5:36
The
5:36
author
5:36
is
5:37
an
5:37
actual
5:37
World
5:37
War
5:38
historian,
5:38
so
5:38
you
5:39
can
5:39
see
5:39
how
5:39
he
5:39
pulls
5:39
in
5:40
references
5:40
to
5:40
real
5:42
as
5:42
he's
5:42
writing
5:43
the
5:43
story.
5:43
This
5:44
is
5:44
a
5:44
prime
5:44
example
5:44
of
5:45
how
5:45
through
5:45
fiction
5:46
you
5:46
can
5:46
learn
5:46
the
5:46
concepts
5:47
of
5:47
real
5:47
history.
5:48
So
5:48
when
5:48
you
5:49
learn
5:49
real
5:49
history,
5:49
we're
5:50
able
5:50
to
5:50
make
5:50
those
5:50
connections
5:51
much
5:51
easier.
5:52
You
5:53
can
5:53
even
5:53
see
5:53
glimpses
5:54
of
5:54
real
5:54
historical
5:55
people
5:55
like
5:55
Bonhoeffer
5:56
through
5:56
the
5:56
characters
5:57
presented
5:57
in
5:57
this
5:58
book,
5:58
even
5:59
looking
5:59
at
5:59
the
5:59
show.
5:59
Andor
6:00
you
6:01
can
6:01
see
6:01
characters
6:01
such
6:01
as
6:02
Senator
6:02
Dasi
6:03
Oran
6:03
being
6:03
arrested
6:04
for
6:04
vocalizing
6:04
discontentment
6:05
over
6:06
like
6:06
the
6:07
Gorman
6:07
massacre,
6:08
which
6:08
mirrors
6:11
authoritarian
6:11
dictators
6:12
like
6:12
Mussolini,
6:14
Stalin,
6:14
Hitler,
6:15
Mao
6:15
Zedong
6:16
imprisoning
6:17
people
6:17
for
6:17
being
6:17
critical
6:18
against
6:18
the
6:19
state.
6:20
Chris
6:20
Kempshall,
6:21
which
6:21
is
6:21
the
6:21
author
6:22
on
6:22
his
6:23
website,
6:23
wrote
6:23
a
6:24
synopsis
6:24
of
6:24
the
6:25
book
6:25
which
6:25
says
6:26
when
6:26
Palpatine
6:27
declared
6:27
the
6:27
birth
6:28
of
6:28
his
6:28
new
6:28
empire,
6:29
he
6:29
expected
6:29
it
6:30
would
6:30
stand
6:30
for
6:30
10,000
6:31
years.
6:31
Instead,
6:32
it
6:32
lasted
6:32
for
6:32
only
6:33
24.
6:33
This
6:33
is
6:34
the
6:34
story
6:34
of
6:34
how
6:34
a
6:35
tyrannical
6:35
regime
6:36
rose
6:36
from
6:36
the
6:36
ashes
6:37
of
6:37
democracy,
6:38
ruled
6:38
the
6:38
galaxy
6:39
with
6:39
an
6:39
iron
6:39
fist
6:40
and
6:40
and
6:40
then
6:40
collapsed
6:41
into
6:41
dust.
6:41
It
6:42
is
6:42
a
6:42
story
6:42
of
6:43
war
6:43
and
6:43
heroes,
6:44
of
6:44
the
6:44
power
6:45
of
6:45
propaganda
6:46
and
6:46
the
6:46
dangers
6:47
of
6:47
complacency.
6:48
But
6:48
most
6:48
of
6:49
all,
6:49
it
6:49
is
6:49
a
6:49
story
6:49
of
6:50
ordinary
6:50
people
6:51
trying
6:51
to
6:51
live
6:51
their
6:52
lives
6:52
in
6:52
the
6:52
face
6:52
of
6:53
a
6:53
brutal
6:53
dictatorship.
6:55
So
6:56
during
6:56
a
6:56
2005
6:57
interview
6:57
with
6:58
the
6:58
Boston
6:58
Globe,
6:59
George
6:59
Lucas
6:59
said,
7:00
I
7:00
love
7:01
history.
7:01
So
7:01
while
7:01
the
7:02
psychological
7:03
basis
7:03
of
7:03
Star
7:03
wars
7:04
is
7:04
mythological,
7:05
the
7:05
political
7:06
and
7:06
social
7:06
bases
7:07
are
7:07
historical.
7:08
The
7:09
message
7:09
at
7:09
the
7:09
heart
7:09
of
7:09
Star
7:10
wars
7:10
still
7:10
speaks
7:10
to
7:10
events
7:11
of
7:11
this
7:11
time
7:11
and
7:12
connects
7:12
to
7:12
the
7:12
world's
7:12
underlying
7:13
issues.
7:14
Despite
7:14
being
7:14
divorced
7:15
from
7:15
overt
7:16
political
7:16
context.
7:17
Because
7:17
the
7:17
story
7:18
of
7:18
a
7:18
fight
7:18
against
7:18
tyranny
7:19
never
7:19
gets
7:19
old,
7:20
I
7:20
personally
7:21
didn't
7:21
understand
7:21
how
7:22
those
7:22
in
7:23
Star
7:23
wars
7:23
universe
7:24
could
7:24
let
7:24
a
7:24
tyrannical
7:25
government
7:26
take
7:26
over
7:26
again.
7:27
But
7:27
now
7:27
in
7:27
2025,
7:29
I
7:29
can
7:29
see
7:30
how
7:30
it
7:30
could
7:30
be
7:30
possible.
7:31
And
7:32
so
7:32
this
7:32
unassuming
7:33
space
7:33
opera
7:34
setting
7:35
serves
7:35
as
7:35
a
7:35
reminder
7:36
that
7:36
history
7:36
often
7:37
repeats
7:37
itself
7:37
in
7:38
different
7:38
times
7:38
and
7:39
places.
7:40
The
7:40
rise
7:40
and
7:40
fall
7:40
of
7:41
the
7:41
Galactic
7:41
Empire
7:42
helped
7:42
me
7:42
visualize
7:43
history
7:43
through
7:43
fiction
7:44
and
7:44
sci
7:44
fi
7:45
from
7:45
a
7:45
certain
7:45
point
7:46
of
7:46
view.
7:47
And
7:47
so
7:47
now
7:48
in
7:48
our
7:48
current
7:48
socio
7:49
political
7:49
environment,
7:50
I
7:50
thought
7:50
this
7:50
would
7:50
be
7:50
an
7:51
apt
7:51
time
7:51
to
7:52
review
7:52
this
7:52
book.
7:55
Yes,
7:57
well
7:57
said,
7:57
well
7:58
said.
7:58
Mark.
7:58
I
7:59
know
7:59
my
7:59
friend
7:59
Evan,
8:00
fellow
8:00
Star
8:00
wars
8:01
geek.
8:01
And
8:02
since
8:02
my
8:02
ecology
8:04
host
8:05
agrees
8:05
with
8:05
you
8:06
that
8:06
this
8:08
particular
8:08
book
8:08
help
8:09
widen
8:09
my
8:09
understanding
8:10
of
8:10
the
8:10
Star
8:10
wars
8:11
universe.
8:11
I,
8:13
yeah,
8:13
I,
8:13
I,
8:14
my
8:14
first
8:15
love
8:15
is
8:15
the
8:15
original
8:15
trilogy,
8:16
but
8:16
I
8:16
read
8:17
the
8:17
comics,
8:18
I've
8:19
read
8:19
some
8:19
books,
8:20
some
8:20
of
8:20
the
8:20
graphic
8:21
novels.
8:22
This
8:22
was
8:22
a
8:22
book
8:22
that
8:22
wasn't
8:23
necessarily
8:23
on,
8:24
on
8:24
my
8:24
radar,
8:24
but
8:24
I'm
8:25
glad
8:25
that
8:25
you
8:25
brought
8:25
it
8:25
to
8:26
us
8:26
because
8:26
I
8:26
think
8:27
within
8:28
our
8:28
current
8:29
context,
8:29
political
8:30
context
8:30
or
8:31
what's
8:31
happening
8:31
in
8:31
our
8:32
world,
8:32
it
8:33
couldn't
8:33
come
8:33
at
8:33
a
8:33
better
8:33
time
8:34
to.
8:34
I'm
8:34
not
8:34
necessarily
8:35
a
8:35
World
8:35
War
8:35
II
8:37
or
8:37
history
8:37
buff,
8:38
but
8:39
reading
8:40
this
8:40
book
8:40
in
8:41
light
8:41
of
8:41
kind
8:42
of
8:42
like
8:42
reading
8:42
a
8:43
history
8:43
book
8:43
or
8:43
history
8:43
on
8:44
World
8:44
War
8:44
II,
8:44
it
8:44
helped
8:45
widen
8:45
the
8:45
scope
8:46
of
8:46
what
8:47
Empire
8:47
means
8:48
and
8:49
kind
8:49
of
8:49
the
8:49
slow
8:50
game
8:50
that
8:50
Palpatine
8:51
had
8:52
all
8:53
the
8:53
way
8:53
up.
8:53
Even
8:53
though
8:54
the
8:54
empire
8:54
was
8:55
only
8:55
24
8:55
years,
8:56
years
8:57
led
8:57
up
8:57
to
8:57
that
8:58
point
8:58
and
8:58
then
8:59
the
8:59
ramifications
8:59
of
9:00
what
9:00
happened
9:00
after
9:00
the
9:01
fall,
9:02
it
9:03
still
9:03
makes
9:03
a
9:03
big
9:04
impact
9:04
of
9:05
hundreds
9:05
and
9:05
thousands
9:06
of
9:06
years
9:06
here
9:06
in
9:07
the
9:07
Star
9:07
wars
9:07
universe.
9:08
Evan,
9:09
in
9:10
terms
9:10
of
9:11
what
9:11
you
9:11
consume
9:12
in
9:13
Star
9:13
wars,
9:14
how
9:14
does
9:14
this
9:14
kind
9:15
of
9:15
book
9:16
and
9:16
take
9:16
with
9:16
this
9:17
and
9:17
maybe
9:17
perhaps
9:18
a
9:18
show
9:18
like
9:18
andor
9:19
that
9:19
we'll
9:19
talk
9:19
a
9:19
little
9:19
bit
9:19
later
9:20
on,
9:20
what
9:21
does
9:21
that
9:21
do
9:21
to
9:21
you
9:22
for
9:22
your
9:23
Star
9:23
wars
9:23
fandom
9:24
and
9:25
kind
9:25
of
9:25
widen
9:25
the
9:25
scope?
9:26
Yeah.
9:27
This
9:27
book,
9:29
I
9:29
remember
9:30
when
9:30
it
9:30
came
9:30
out
9:31
and
9:31
it's
9:31
ruffled
9:32
some
9:32
feathers
9:32
and
9:32
stuff
9:33
in
9:33
some
9:33
of
9:33
the
9:33
circles
9:33
I
9:34
run.
9:34
And.
9:36
But
9:37
it's
9:37
a,
9:38
but
9:38
it's
9:38
a
9:38
part
9:39
of
9:39
a
9:39
pattern
9:39
that
9:39
I
9:40
see
9:41
in
9:41
a
9:41
lot
9:41
of.
9:42
In
9:42
my
9:42
fandom
9:43
and
9:43
in.
9:44
And
9:45
in
9:45
the
9:45
Star
9:45
wars
9:46
fandom
9:46
is
9:47
that
9:47
the
9:47
people,
9:48
they
9:49
forget
9:50
what
9:50
makes
9:50
a
9:51
Star
9:51
Wars
9:51
Star
9:51
wars.
9:51
And
9:52
that's
9:52
a
9:52
little
9:52
bit
9:52
different
9:53
for
9:54
everybody.
9:55
And
9:55
there's
9:56
that
9:56
cycle
9:57
of
9:58
the,
9:58
the,
9:59
the
10:00
political
10:01
part
10:01
of
10:01
it
10:02
comes
10:02
up
10:02
every
10:02
once
10:03
in
10:03
a
10:03
while
10:03
and
10:03
it's
10:04
hard
10:04
to.
10:05
You
10:05
can,
10:06
you
10:06
can't
10:07
really
10:07
dismiss
10:07
it
10:07
because
10:07
it's
10:08
there.
10:08
There
10:08
is
10:09
a
10:09
political
10:09
aspect
10:10
to
10:10
Star
10:10
wars
10:11
and
10:11
it
10:12
is,
10:13
it
10:14
is.
10:15
It's
10:15
kind
10:15
of
10:16
what
10:18
George
10:18
was
10:20
like.
10:21
He's
10:22
here.
10:22
He
10:22
is
10:22
a
10:23
product
10:23
of
10:23
his
10:23
time
10:24
and
10:24
that's
10:24
what
10:24
they
10:24
were
10:24
thinking
10:25
in
10:26
that
10:26
time
10:26
and
10:27
he
10:27
expressed
10:28
it
10:28
in
10:29
what
10:29
we
10:29
call
10:29
Star
10:29
Wars.
10:30
And
10:30
there's
10:31
no
10:31
problem
10:32
in,
10:33
in
10:33
saying
10:33
that
10:34
there's
10:34
this
10:35
politicalness
10:36
and
10:36
there's
10:38
not
10:38
satire
10:39
but
10:39
a
10:39
commentary
10:40
on
10:41
government
10:42
of
10:43
this
10:43
kind
10:44
that
10:44
we,
10:44
that
10:45
we
10:45
have.
10:45
And
10:47
you
10:48
can
10:48
see
10:48
it
10:48
in
10:48
his.
10:49
In
10:50
George
10:50
Lucas
10:52
interview
10:52
since
10:53
that
10:54
he's
10:54
talking
10:54
about
10:55
it,
10:55
that
10:55
he's.
10:55
That
10:55
he's
10:56
unashamed
10:56
about
10:57
what
10:57
this
10:58
is
10:58
and
10:59
what
10:59
the.
11:00
The
11:01
a
11:01
little
11:01
guy
11:02
versus
11:03
Fitbit
11:03
guy
11:04
and
11:04
stuff
11:05
like
11:05
that.
11:05
But,
11:06
but
11:06
this
11:07
is,
11:08
this
11:09
is
11:09
something
11:09
that
11:10
was
11:10
exciting
11:11
to
11:11
me
11:11
because
11:12
is.
11:12
This
11:12
is
11:13
a
11:13
very
11:13
important
11:14
time
11:14
right
11:14
now
11:16
and
11:17
it's
11:17
this
11:18
book
11:19
and,
11:20
and,
11:21
and.
11:21
Or
11:22
as
11:22
we're
11:22
probably
11:22
gonna
11:22
be
11:23
talking
11:23
about
11:23
is
11:24
a
11:25
very.
11:28
What's
11:28
it
11:28
called?
11:29
Not
11:29
for
11:29
tourists.
11:29
But
11:30
it's
11:31
makes
11:31
sense
11:32
that.
11:32
That
11:32
people
11:33
are
11:33
talking
11:33
about
11:33
it
11:34
right
11:34
now.
11:34
Yeah.
11:35
So.
11:35
So
11:35
this
11:36
episode
11:36
we're
11:36
going
11:37
to
11:37
talk
11:37
about
11:37
a
11:37
lot
11:37
about
11:37
this
11:38
book,
11:38
but
11:38
also
11:39
talk
11:39
About
11:40
Andor
11:40
Season
11:41
2
11:41
and
11:41
where.
11:41
Where
11:42
that
11:42
kind
11:42
of
11:42
left
11:42
off
11:43
and
11:43
how
11:43
that
11:43
landed
11:44
with
11:44
us
11:44
and
11:44
led
11:44
into
11:45
Rogue
11:45
One.
11:45
But
11:45
kind
11:45
of
11:45
the
11:46
grand
11:46
Star
11:46
wars
11:47
universe.
11:47
I
11:47
think
11:48
Star
11:49
wars,
11:49
our
11:50
fandom,
11:50
this
11:51
particular
11:51
book
11:51
does
11:52
indeed
11:52
often
11:53
hold
11:53
up
11:53
a
11:53
mirror.
11:54
And
11:54
sometimes
11:54
we
11:54
don't
11:55
like
11:55
what
11:55
we
11:55
see
11:55
in
11:56
terms
11:56
of
11:56
present
11:56
context
11:57
or,
11:57
or
11:58
our
11:58
history.
11:58
And
11:59
if
11:59
you
11:59
don't
11:59
like
11:59
what
11:59
you
12:00
see,
12:00
there's
12:01
me
12:01
some
12:01
like,
12:02
inward
12:03
reflection
12:04
in
12:04
terms
12:04
of
12:05
why.
12:06
Why
12:06
do
12:06
I
12:06
feel
12:06
that
12:07
way?
12:07
What.
12:07
Why
12:07
is
12:07
it
12:07
bringing
12:08
up
12:08
these
12:08
certain
12:08
emotions
12:09
within
12:09
me
12:09
and,
12:10
and
12:10
that
12:10
kind
12:11
of
12:11
reflective
12:12
contemplation
12:12
I
12:13
think
12:13
is,
12:13
is
12:14
super
12:14
important.
12:14
And
12:14
it's
12:15
no
12:15
secret
12:15
that
12:15
I
12:15
love.
12:16
So
12:17
a
12:17
big
12:17
part
12:17
of
12:17
why
12:17
I
12:18
love
12:18
Star
12:18
wars
12:18
is
12:18
the
12:18
Mysticism,
12:19
the
12:19
religion
12:22
sabers
12:22
and
12:23
the
12:23
laser
12:23
swords
12:23
and
12:24
the,
12:24
and
12:24
the
12:25
lasers
12:25
and
12:25
the,
12:26
you
12:27
know,
12:27
just
12:27
space
12:27
wizards.
12:28
I
12:28
in
12:28
my
12:29
avatars,
12:29
Luke
12:29
Skywalker.
12:30
Right.
12:30
But
12:31
things
12:31
like
12:32
shows
12:32
like
12:32
andor
12:33
show
12:34
the,
12:34
the
12:34
small
12:35
choices
12:35
and
12:35
the
12:35
small
12:36
things
12:36
that
12:37
make
12:37
a
12:37
big
12:37
difference
12:37
in
12:38
the
12:38
big
12:38
intergalactic
12:39
war.
12:39
And
12:40
this
12:40
book
12:40
really
12:40
helped
12:41
kind
12:41
of
12:41
illustrate
12:42
that,
12:42
that
12:42
for
12:43
us.
12:43
Mark,
12:43
you
12:43
know,
12:43
as
12:44
you
12:44
were
12:44
reading
12:44
this
12:44
book
12:45
as
12:45
a
12:45
Stars
12:45
fan,
12:46
did
12:46
you,
12:47
did
12:47
you
12:47
learn
12:47
anything
12:48
new?
12:48
What,
12:49
what
12:49
highlighted
12:50
for
12:50
you
12:50
or
12:51
what
12:51
mirror
12:52
did
12:52
it
12:52
hold
12:52
up
12:52
for
12:52
you?
12:52
I,
12:53
for
12:53
me,
12:54
I
12:54
think
12:54
it
12:54
wasn't
12:55
necessarily
12:55
that
12:55
I
12:55
learned
12:56
anything
12:56
like
12:56
groundbreaking
12:58
new
12:58
when
12:59
it
12:59
comes
12:59
to
12:59
Star
12:59
wars,
13:00
but
13:00
it
13:00
helped
13:01
put
13:01
in
13:01
context
13:01
the
13:01
grand
13:02
scope
13:03
of
13:03
what
13:03
the
13:03
Empire
13:04
is
13:04
or
13:04
means
13:05
in
13:05
this
13:05
universe
13:06
and
13:06
what
13:06
it
13:06
did.
13:07
And
13:08
I'll
13:08
give
13:08
up
13:08
my
13:08
big
13:08
takeaway
13:09
here
13:09
in
13:09
a
13:09
little
13:10
bit.
13:10
But,
13:10
but
13:11
did
13:11
you
13:11
learn,
13:11
did
13:12
we
13:12
learn
13:12
anything
13:12
new
13:13
from
13:13
this
13:13
book?
13:59
I
13:59
mean
13:59
I
13:59
think
13:59
I
14:00
learned
14:00
quite
14:00
a
14:00
bit.
14:01
I've
14:01
always
14:02
been
14:02
a
14:02
Star
14:02
wars
14:02
fan,
14:03
but
14:03
I
14:03
never
14:03
really
14:03
dug
14:04
into
14:04
like
14:04
the
14:05
lore
14:05
of
14:05
it
14:05
too
14:06
much
14:06
until
14:06
more
14:07
recent
14:07
years
14:07
where
14:08
I
14:08
started
14:08
digging
14:08
into
14:08
maybe
14:09
the
14:09
comics
14:09
and
14:10
obviously
14:11
the
14:11
book
14:12
but.
14:13
And
14:14
I've
14:14
read
14:14
a
14:14
couple
14:14
other
14:14
books
14:15
too.
14:15
I've
14:15
gotten
14:15
some
14:16
audio
14:16
books
14:16
of
14:16
stuff,
14:17
you
14:17
know,
14:17
like
14:18
you
14:18
were
14:18
talking
14:18
about
14:18
is
14:18
an
14:19
audiobook
14:19
of
14:19
really
14:20
reading
14:20
but
14:21
you
14:22
know,
14:22
digging
14:22
into
14:22
some
14:22
of
14:23
that.
14:23
And
14:23
there
14:24
was
14:24
still
14:24
quite
14:24
a
14:25
bit
14:25
to
14:25
this
14:25
book
14:26
that
14:26
I
14:26
felt
14:26
I
14:27
was
14:27
able
14:27
to
14:28
learn
14:28
and
14:28
extract
14:29
from.
14:30
But
14:30
I
14:30
think
14:30
the
14:30
majority
14:31
of
14:31
my
14:31
learning
14:32
was
14:33
the
14:34
understanding
14:34
behind
14:35
the
14:35
scenes.
14:36
Not
14:36
necessarily
14:36
like
14:37
about
14:37
specific
14:38
events
14:38
or
14:39
people
14:39
because
14:40
it
14:40
touches
14:40
on
14:40
a
14:40
lot
14:41
of
14:41
common
14:42
names
14:42
that
14:43
you
14:43
might
14:43
hear
14:43
in
14:43
like
14:44
your
14:44
typical
14:44
Star
14:45
wars
14:45
film
14:45
or
14:46
TV
14:46
series.
14:47
But
14:48
it's
14:48
more
14:48
of
14:49
like,
14:49
okay,
14:49
how
14:50
did
14:50
this
14:51
connect
14:51
to
14:51
this
14:52
and
14:53
what
14:54
is
14:54
the
14:54
timeline
14:54
of
14:55
events
14:56
and
14:57
kind
14:57
of
14:57
what
14:57
is
14:57
this
14:58
background
15:00
monotonous
15:00
day
15:01
to
15:01
day
15:02
life
15:02
in
15:02
the
15:02
Empire
15:03
kind
15:03
of
15:03
like.
15:04
And
15:05
so
15:05
I
15:05
think
15:05
I
15:05
learned
15:05
a
15:06
lot
15:06
of
15:06
that
15:08
as
15:08
well
15:08
as,
15:08
as
15:09
I'm
15:09
reading
15:09
it
15:09
and
15:10
understanding,
15:11
you
15:11
know,
15:11
certain
15:11
parts
15:12
of
15:12
history,
15:12
like
15:13
real
15:13
life
15:13
history,
15:14
I
15:14
can
15:14
see
15:15
where
15:15
some
15:15
of
15:15
this
15:16
kind
15:16
of
15:16
overlaps
15:17
and
15:17
correlates.
15:18
And
15:18
then
15:18
of
15:18
course
15:18
researching
15:19
this
15:19
episode,
15:20
learning
15:20
about
15:21
how
15:21
the
15:21
Vietnam
15:22
was,
15:22
was
15:22
a
15:22
big
15:23
inspiration
15:24
and
15:24
it's
15:24
been
15:25
political
15:25
ever
15:26
since.
15:26
The
15:26
conception
15:26
of
15:27
it
15:27
is
15:27
that,
15:28
you
15:28
know,
15:28
the
15:28
Vietnam
15:29
you
15:29
got
15:29
ties
15:30
into
15:30
like
15:30
Nazi
15:31
Germany,
15:31
you
15:31
got
15:32
ties
15:32
into
15:32
other
15:33
dict
15:33
leaderships
15:33
like
15:34
Stalin,
15:34
Mussolini,
15:35
Pol
15:35
Pot,
15:36
all
15:36
that.
15:37
And
15:37
even
15:38
into
15:38
the
15:39
prequels
15:40
you
15:40
get
15:40
like
15:40
Bush
15:40
era
15:41
Wars,
15:41
you
15:41
get
15:42
Newt
15:42
Gunray
15:43
and
15:43
the
15:44
other
15:44
guy
15:44
was
15:45
inspiration
15:46
from
15:46
Newt
15:47
Gingrich
15:47
and
15:48
Ronald
15:48
Reagan.
15:49
And
15:49
then
15:49
even
15:50
in
15:50
like,
15:50
andor
15:51
you
15:51
get
15:52
some
15:53
of
15:53
the
15:53
more
15:53
recent
15:53
stuff
15:54
like
15:54
the
15:55
Palestinian
15:55
struggle
15:56
and
15:56
Middle
15:57
east
15:57
and
15:58
especially
15:58
with
15:58
like,
15:58
you
15:59
know,
15:59
Rogue
15:59
One
15:59
and
15:59
the
16:00
destruction
16:00
of
16:00
Jeddah.
16:01
So
16:01
it's.
16:01
You
16:02
get
16:02
the
16:02
politics
16:03
have
16:03
been
16:03
through
16:04
Star
16:04
wars
16:04
for.
16:05
For
16:06
decades
16:06
now.
16:07
And
16:07
you
16:08
know,
16:08
if
16:08
you're
16:08
just
16:08
picking
16:09
up
16:09
on
16:09
it
16:09
now
16:09
and
16:09
you're
16:09
upset
16:10
about
16:10
it,
16:11
you
16:11
know,
16:12
sorry
16:12
to
16:12
break
16:12
it
16:13
to
16:13
you,
16:13
but
16:13
it's
16:13
always
16:14
been
16:14
this
16:14
way.
15:30
So.
16:16
Yeah,
16:16
I
16:16
think
16:16
that's
16:17
kind
16:17
of
16:17
what
16:17
I
16:17
picked
16:17
up
16:17
from
16:18
the
16:18
book.
16:19
Yeah.
16:20
And
16:20
you
16:21
know,
16:21
Evan,
16:21
you
16:21
mentioned
16:22
that
16:22
the
16:22
kind
16:22
of
16:23
Vietnam
16:23
or
16:23
you
16:24
mentioned
16:24
the
16:24
Vietnam
16:24
War,
16:24
that
16:25
the
16:25
product
16:25
of.
16:25
Of
16:26
George
16:26
Lucas's
16:26
time,
16:27
like
16:27
he
16:27
was
16:27
this.
16:28
The
16:28
original
16:29
story,
16:29
A
16:29
New
16:30
New
16:30
Hope.
16:30
Episode
16:30
four
16:31
is,
16:31
you
16:31
know,
16:31
1977
16:33
coming
16:34
off
16:34
in
16:34
the
16:35
thick
16:35
of
16:35
it,
16:35
coming
16:35
off
16:35
the.
16:36
The
16:36
Vietn.
16:37
Look
16:37
at
16:37
the
16:37
world
16:38
through
16:38
those
16:39
lens.
16:39
And.
16:40
And
16:40
yet
16:40
you
16:40
can't
16:41
do
16:41
Star
16:41
wars
16:41
without.
16:42
Without
16:42
politics.
16:43
And
16:43
I
16:43
know
16:43
sometimes
16:44
it
16:44
can
16:44
be
16:44
too
16:44
on
16:44
the
16:45
nose
16:45
if
16:45
you
16:45
feel
16:46
like,
16:46
convicted
16:47
because
16:47
they're
16:49
coming
16:49
after
16:49
your
16:49
particular
16:50
political
16:50
loyalty
16:51
or
16:51
party.
16:52
But.
16:53
But
16:53
again,
16:55
if
16:55
that's
16:55
the
16:55
case,
16:55
then
16:56
we
16:56
need
16:56
to
16:56
reflect
16:56
on
16:57
why
16:57
it's
16:57
making
16:57
you
16:58
feel
16:58
that
16:58
way.
16:59
If
17:00
there's
17:00
something
17:00
going
17:00
on.
17:00
I
17:01
think
17:01
there
17:01
was
17:01
a
17:03
meme
17:03
someone
17:03
shared
17:04
from
17:04
like
17:04
a.
17:05
A
17:05
high
17:05
school
17:05
friend
17:05
of
17:05
mine.
17:05
He's
17:06
never
17:06
gonna
17:06
listen
17:06
to
17:06
this
17:06
episode,
17:07
but
17:07
he
17:07
said
17:07
something
17:08
about
17:08
like,
17:09
Star
17:10
wars
17:10
day
17:10
and
17:11
doing
17:11
something
17:12
and.
17:12
And
17:13
I
17:13
was
17:13
like,
17:13
dude,
17:13
I
17:13
commented
17:14
on
17:14
his
17:14
thing.
17:14
I
17:14
was
17:15
like,
17:15
are
17:15
you
17:15
pulling
17:16
for
17:16
the
17:16
Empire?
17:16
I
17:16
think
17:17
you're
17:17
pulling
17:17
for
17:17
the
17:17
wrong
17:18
team,
17:19
you
17:19
know,
17:19
with.
17:19
With
17:20
this
17:20
particular
17:20
meme.
17:21
And.
17:21
And
17:21
he
17:22
kind
17:22
of
17:22
just
17:22
laughed
17:22
at
17:22
it.
17:23
But
17:23
I
17:23
was
17:23
like,
17:23
nah,
17:23
it's
17:24
not
17:24
really
17:24
funny.
17:25
I
17:25
think
17:25
you're
17:25
pulling
17:25
for
17:25
the
17:25
wrong
17:26
team.
17:26
But
17:26
I.
17:27
Yeah,
17:27
I
17:27
mean,
17:27
I
17:28
don't
17:28
know
17:28
if
17:28
I
17:28
learned
17:29
anything
17:29
new.
17:29
It's
17:29
one
17:30
thing
17:30
to
17:30
just
17:30
name
17:30
drop
17:31
a
17:31
particular
17:32
city
17:32
or
17:32
planet
17:33
or
17:33
situation
17:34
or
17:34
political
17:35
leader
17:35
in
17:35
a.
17:36
Then
17:36
to
17:37
have
17:37
this
17:37
book
17:37
and
17:37
really
17:38
kind
17:38
of
17:38
iron
17:38
out
17:39
for
17:39
a
17:39
couple
17:39
chapters
17:40
or
17:40
for
17:40
a
17:41
couple
17:41
paragraphs,
17:41
couple
17:42
pages,
17:42
the
17:43
ins
17:43
and
17:43
out
17:43
of
17:43
who
17:43
this
17:44
person
17:44
is
17:44
and
17:44
why
17:45
they
17:45
did
17:45
what
17:45
they
17:45
did
17:46
and
17:46
their
17:46
connection
17:46
to
17:47
the
17:47
larger
17:47
story
17:48
really
17:49
help
17:49
unfold
17:50
and
17:50
kind
17:50
of
17:51
reveal
17:51
to
17:52
me
17:52
a
17:52
little
17:52
bit
17:52
more
17:52
about
17:52
the
17:53
particular
17:54
names
17:54
that
17:54
you
17:54
maybe
17:55
just
17:55
heard
17:56
a
17:56
name
17:56
drop
17:56
of
17:57
what's
17:57
going
17:57
on.
17:58
For
17:58
me,
17:58
I
17:58
think
17:58
the
17:59
big
17:59
takeaway
18:00
as
18:00
I
18:00
started
18:00
thinking
18:01
about
18:01
like,
18:02
the,
18:02
you
18:03
know,
18:03
the
18:03
Star
18:03
wars
18:03
universe
18:04
and
18:04
the
18:04
Force
18:05
and
18:05
this
18:05
light
18:05
and
18:05
dark,
18:06
this.
18:06
The
18:07
balance
18:07
or
18:07
the
18:07
battle
18:08
or
18:08
the
18:08
tendency
18:08
between
18:09
light
18:09
and
18:09
dark,
18:10
if
18:10
you
18:10
think
18:10
about
18:10
the
18:10
force
18:11
of
18:11
gravity.
18:11
You
18:12
think
18:12
of
18:12
like
18:13
the
18:14
black
18:14
hole
18:15
being
18:15
that
18:15
intense
18:17
sense
18:18
of
18:18
gravity,
18:18
that
18:19
light
18:19
can't
18:19
escape
18:20
it.
18:20
And
18:20
so
18:20
as
18:20
I
18:20
was
18:21
reading
18:21
this,
18:22
this
18:22
book,
18:23
I
18:23
really
18:24
saw
18:24
the
18:24
Empire
18:25
and
18:25
Darth
18:25
Sidious
18:26
as
18:26
a
18:26
black
18:26
hole
18:27
that
18:27
just
18:27
kind
18:28
of
18:28
sucks
18:28
in
18:29
all
18:29
the
18:30
light
18:30
it
18:30
takes
18:31
over
18:31
an
18:31
entire
18:31
galaxy.
18:32
There's
18:32
no
18:32
like
18:33
there.
18:34
And
18:34
it
18:35
builds
18:35
it
18:35
that
18:35
way.
18:37
Palpatine's
18:38
a
18:38
black
18:39
hole
18:40
in
18:40
this.
18:40
A
18:41
sense
18:41
of
18:41
power
18:41
and
18:42
force
18:42
that
18:43
sucks
18:43
all
18:43
the
18:43
light
18:44
in.
18:44
But
18:45
then
18:45
how
18:46
do
18:46
you
18:46
escape?
18:46
How
18:47
do
18:47
you
18:47
win
18:47
against
18:47
a
18:48
black
18:48
hole?
18:48
And
18:49
the
18:49
small
18:49
things
18:50
and
18:50
details
18:50
that
18:51
a
18:51
small
18:51
band
18:51
of
18:51
rebels
18:52
to
18:52
defeat
18:54
or
18:54
escape
18:54
a
18:55
black
18:55
hole
18:56
is
18:56
monumental
18:57
and
18:57
is
18:57
incredible.
18:58
And
18:58
yet
18:58
it's
18:58
fantasies,
19:00
I
19:00
think,
19:00
in
19:01
parallel
19:01
for
19:01
what
19:02
is
19:02
going
19:03
on
19:03
in
19:03
our
19:03
world
19:03
today
19:04
and,
19:04
and
19:05
kind
19:05
of
19:05
give
19:05
some
19:05
insight
19:06
to
19:06
our
19:07
current
19:07
context.
19:07
Mark,
19:08
what's
19:08
the
19:08
theme
19:08
out
19:08
there
19:09
that
19:09
you
19:10
want
19:10
to
19:10
lift
19:10
up
19:10
in
19:11
terms
19:11
of
19:11
this
19:11
book?
19:12
That
19:12
in
19:12
terms
19:12
of
19:12
our
19:12
current
19:13
context,
19:14
what
19:14
we
19:15
can
19:15
learn
19:15
from
19:16
the
19:16
rise
19:16
and
19:16
fall
19:16
of
19:16
a
19:17
galactic
19:17
empire
19:18
with.
19:19
With
19:19
our
19:19
world
19:19
today.
19:22
Oh,
19:22
boy.
19:22
Where
19:22
to
19:23
get
19:23
started?
19:24
Yeah,
19:24
yeah,
19:24
I
19:24
know.
19:25
That's
19:25
the
19:25
can
19:25
of
19:25
worms.
19:26
I
19:27
mean,
19:27
I,
19:27
I
19:27
sent
19:28
you.
19:28
I
19:28
sent
19:28
you
19:28
an
19:28
email
19:29
and
19:29
I,
19:29
I
19:29
think
19:29
I
19:30
listed
19:30
like
19:31
20
19:31
to
19:31
25
19:32
different
19:32
themes
19:32
that
19:33
we
19:33
could
19:33
even
19:33
jump
19:34
into.
19:34
Yeah.
19:37
Your
19:37
favorite
19:37
one.
19:38
If
19:38
you
19:38
were
19:38
going
19:38
to
19:38
go
19:38
to
19:38
bed
19:39
tonight
19:39
and
19:39
you're
19:39
like,
19:39
dang
19:40
it,
19:40
I
19:40
didn't
19:41
talk
19:41
about
19:41
that
19:42
one
19:42
theme
19:42
about
19:43
this
19:43
book.
19:44
Would
19:44
it
19:44
be.
19:46
I
19:47
know
19:47
we
19:47
just
19:47
talked
19:47
about
19:48
one
19:48
right
19:48
before
19:49
we
19:49
got
19:49
on,
19:50
you
19:51
know,
19:51
started
19:51
recording.
19:52
I
19:52
will
19:52
keep
19:52
that
19:52
one
19:52
for
19:53
a
19:53
little
19:53
bit
19:53
later.
19:54
That's
19:54
one
19:54
I
19:54
really
19:54
wanted
19:55
to
19:55
talk
19:55
about.
19:56
I
19:56
think
19:57
maybe
19:57
I
19:57
could
19:58
talk
19:58
about
20:01
maybe
20:02
like
20:02
the,
20:03
the
20:03
education
20:04
and
20:04
the
20:04
propaganda
20:05
used.
20:05
Yes.
20:06
So
20:06
education
20:06
of
20:07
like
20:07
youth
20:08
and
20:08
then
20:09
propaganda
20:10
used
20:10
to
20:11
kind
20:11
of,
20:13
you
20:13
know,
20:14
corral
20:14
the
20:15
masses,
20:15
corral
20:16
the
20:16
people
20:16
to
20:16
under
20:17
the
20:17
cause
20:17
of
20:18
it.
20:18
Whether
20:18
it's,
20:19
you
20:19
know,
20:19
whether
20:19
they're
20:20
supporting
20:21
the
20:21
Empire
20:21
or
20:22
whether
20:22
they're
20:23
begrudgingly
20:24
supporting
20:24
the
20:24
Empire.
20:26
I
20:26
think
20:26
there's
20:26
a
20:26
difference
20:27
there
20:27
too.
20:27
And
20:27
the
20:28
propaganda
20:28
that
20:29
really,
20:30
you
20:30
know,
20:31
allowed
20:31
the
20:31
Empire
20:31
to
20:32
kind
20:32
of
20:32
thrive
20:32
as
20:32
long
20:32
as
20:33
it
20:33
did.
20:34
Yeah.
20:35
So
20:35
Star
20:35
wars,
20:35
let's
20:36
go
20:36
into
20:36
that.
20:36
I
20:37
think,
20:37
you
20:37
know,
20:37
a
20:37
lot
20:37
of
20:37
it,
20:38
people
20:38
think
20:38
about
20:38
Star
20:38
wars,
20:39
they
20:39
think
20:39
about
20:39
Darth
20:39
Vader
20:40
against
20:40
Luke
20:40
Skywalker.
20:40
They
20:41
think
20:41
of
20:41
Palpatine,
20:41
they
20:42
think
20:42
this
20:42
dictator.
20:43
But
20:43
as
20:43
you
20:43
said,
20:43
this
20:44
book
20:44
talks
20:44
about,
20:45
you
20:46
know,
20:46
all
20:46
the
20:47
people
20:47
that
20:47
are
20:47
connected
20:47
to
20:48
it.
20:48
And
20:48
I
20:48
think,
20:48
you
20:49
know,
20:49
education,
20:50
propaganda
20:50
and
20:51
even
20:51
like
20:52
the,
20:53
the
20:53
tool
20:53
of
20:53
fear
20:54
that
20:54
Tarkin
20:55
brings
20:55
in.
20:55
It's
20:56
not
20:56
just,
20:57
oh,
20:57
we
20:57
have
20:57
a
20:58
Death
20:58
Star
20:58
that
20:58
was
20:58
revealed
21:00
really
21:00
late
21:00
in
21:00
the
21:00
game,
21:01
but,
21:01
but
21:02
the,
21:02
the
21:02
slow
21:03
game
21:03
or,
21:04
you
21:04
know,
21:04
the,
21:05
the
21:05
lobster
21:05
and
21:05
the
21:06
boiling
21:06
water
21:06
as
21:07
you're
21:07
bringing
21:07
up
21:07
the
21:07
heat.
21:07
Really
21:08
slow,
21:08
I
21:09
think,
21:10
is
21:10
a
21:10
big
21:11
part
21:11
of,
21:11
of
21:11
what
21:12
is
21:12
going
21:12
on
21:12
in
21:12
the
21:13
Star
21:13
wars
21:13
universe.
21:13
These
21:13
planets,
21:14
these
21:14
systems,
21:14
the
21:15
Inner
21:15
Rim,
21:15
the
21:15
Outer
21:15
Rim,
21:16
this,
21:16
this
21:16
propaganda
21:17
and
21:17
education
21:17
to
21:18
bring
21:18
people
21:18
on
21:18
board
21:18
or
21:19
to
21:19
subvert
21:19
or
21:20
keep
21:20
them
21:20
under
21:20
control.
21:21
Mark,
21:21
what,
21:22
what
21:22
is
21:22
it
21:22
that
21:22
appeals
21:23
to
21:23
you
21:23
or
21:23
thinks
21:23
about
21:23
like
21:24
the
21:24
propaganda
21:24
and
21:25
education
21:25
of
21:25
all
21:25
this
21:25
in
21:26
our
21:26
age
21:26
of,
21:27
of.
21:27
Of
21:27
memes
21:28
and
21:28
social
21:28
media?
21:31
Well,
21:31
I
21:31
kind
21:31
of
21:32
brought
21:32
up
21:32
the,
21:33
let's
21:33
see,
21:34
two
21:34
different
21:35
terms
21:35
like
21:35
descriptive
21:35
and
21:36
prescriptive.
21:36
Usually
21:36
you
21:37
hear
21:37
this
21:37
a
21:37
lot
21:37
with
21:38
biblical
21:39
interpretations
21:40
and
21:40
how
21:41
you
21:41
interpret
21:41
it
21:42
in
21:42
your
21:43
biblical
21:44
worldview
21:45
and
21:45
that
21:45
sort
21:45
of
21:45
thing
21:46
descriptive
21:47
being
21:49
describing
21:50
what
21:50
it
21:50
is.
21:51
So
21:51
it's
21:51
like
21:52
a
21:52
reading
21:52
from
21:52
the
21:53
Bible
21:53
or
21:53
it's
21:54
describing
21:56
what,
21:56
what
21:56
the
21:56
story
21:57
is.
21:57
Prescriptive
21:58
is
21:58
how
21:59
you,
22:00
you
22:00
basically
22:00
dictate
22:01
how
22:01
that's
22:02
supposed
22:02
to
22:02
be
22:02
lived
22:02
out
22:03
in
22:03
your
22:03
life
22:03
or
22:04
how
22:04
in
22:04
someone
22:04
else's
22:05
life.
22:05
And
22:06
I
22:07
think
22:07
what
22:07
you
22:07
see
22:07
with
22:07
this
22:07
propaganda
22:08
and
22:08
everything
22:09
is
22:09
more
22:09
of
22:10
that
22:10
prescriptive.
22:11
And
22:11
you
22:11
see
22:11
as
22:12
you're
22:12
reading
22:12
the
22:12
book,
22:13
you,
22:13
you
22:13
see
22:13
a
22:13
lot
22:13
of
22:13
that
22:14
prescriptive
22:15
propaganda.
22:16
This
22:16
is
22:16
how
22:17
you
22:17
should
22:17
be
22:18
and
22:19
you
22:19
know,
22:19
to
22:19
bring
22:19
in
22:20
like
22:20
the
22:20
Tarkin
22:20
doctrine,
22:22
ruling
22:23
through
22:23
fear
22:23
of
22:23
violence
22:25
rather
22:25
than
22:25
violence
22:25
itself.
22:26
And
22:27
so,
22:29
you
22:29
know,
22:29
basically,
22:30
where
22:31
am
22:31
I
22:31
going?
22:31
Like,
22:31
yeah,
22:31
this
22:31
is
22:32
the
22:32
propaganda
22:32
that's
22:32
kind
22:32
of
22:33
building
22:33
this
22:33
up.
22:33
And
22:35
with
22:35
the
22:35
whole
22:36
political
22:36
side
22:37
of
22:37
Star
22:37
wars,
22:38
you
22:38
see
22:39
a
22:39
lot
22:39
of
22:39
these
22:39
correlations
22:40
to
22:40
like,
22:41
I
22:41
hate
22:41
to
22:41
bring
22:41
it
22:42
up
22:42
because
22:42
a
22:42
lot
22:42
of
22:42
people,
22:42
you
22:43
know,
22:43
is
22:43
kind
22:43
of
22:43
a
22:44
triggering
22:44
thing
22:44
to
22:45
bring
22:45
up
22:46
like
22:46
1930s
22:47
Germany
22:47
with
22:47
it,
22:48
but
22:48
with
22:48
like
22:49
the
22:49
Nazi
22:49
youth
22:49
program.
22:50
And
22:50
you
22:50
see
22:50
a
22:50
lot
22:50
of
22:52
like
22:52
that
22:52
propagandizing
22:53
to
22:54
the
22:54
young,
22:54
the
22:55
youth,
22:55
the
22:55
next
22:55
generation
22:56
generation,
22:56
so
22:57
that
22:57
they
22:57
will,
22:58
they
22:58
will
22:58
be.
22:59
They
22:59
won't
23:00
know
23:00
any
23:00
other
23:00
life
23:00
other
23:01
than
23:01
what
23:01
they've
23:02
been
23:02
told
23:02
as
23:02
a
23:02
kid
23:03
to,
23:03
you
23:03
know,
23:04
be
23:05
subverient
23:06
to,
23:07
to
23:07
the
23:08
empire
23:08
and
23:08
to
23:09
the,
23:09
the
23:09
dictator.
23:10
And
23:11
so
23:12
with
23:13
the
23:13
Empire,
23:14
I
23:14
know
23:15
it
23:15
talks
23:15
about
23:15
that
23:16
and
23:16
I
23:16
forget
23:17
what.
23:17
But
23:17
it
23:17
talks
23:18
about
23:18
that
23:18
of
23:19
having
23:20
schools
23:20
on
23:20
different
23:21
planets,
23:21
especially
23:21
like
23:22
legacy
23:22
planets,
23:23
like,
23:24
like
23:24
Coruscant
23:25
and
23:25
all
23:25
that
23:26
of
23:26
like
23:27
educating
23:27
that
23:27
youth
23:28
so
23:28
that
23:28
they
23:28
have
23:29
new,
23:30
like,
23:30
you
23:30
know,
23:30
new
23:31
recruits
23:31
and
23:31
generals
23:32
that
23:32
they
23:32
can,
23:32
you
23:33
know,
23:33
replenish
23:33
the
23:34
ranks
23:34
when
23:35
new
23:35
generations,
23:36
you
23:36
know,
23:36
need
23:36
to
23:36
pass
23:36
on.
23:37
So
23:39
yeah,
23:40
it's.
23:40
And
23:42
as
23:42
far
23:42
as
23:42
like
23:42
with
23:43
modernity
23:44
we
23:44
see
23:44
a
23:44
lot
23:44
of
23:44
like
23:45
the
23:45
prescription
23:46
through
23:46
certain
23:46
like
23:47
homeschooling
23:47
curriculum
23:48
especially.
23:49
And
23:50
I
23:50
hope
23:50
this
23:51
doesn't
23:51
like
23:51
turn
23:51
off
23:51
a
23:52
lot
23:52
of
23:52
the
23:52
viewership
23:52
but
23:52
like
23:52
Christian
23:53
nationalism
23:53
them
23:54
and
23:55
educational
23:56
programs
23:56
such
23:56
as
23:56
like
23:56
Prager
23:57
U.
23:58
So
24:00
and
24:00
with
24:01
Star
24:01
wars
24:01
being
24:01
such
24:02
a,
24:02
a
24:02
children's
24:03
based
24:04
movie
24:05
series,
24:05
there's
24:06
actually
24:06
quotes
24:06
of
24:06
George
24:07
Lucas
24:07
actually
24:07
saying
24:08
this
24:08
is
24:08
a
24:08
children's
24:08
film.
24:09
Like
24:09
the
24:09
original
24:09
conception
24:10
of
24:10
like
24:10
A
24:10
New
24:10
Hope
24:11
was
24:11
a
24:11
children's
24:12
story.
24:13
So
24:13
you
24:13
could
24:13
actually
24:14
deliver
24:14
a
24:14
lot
24:15
of
24:15
these
24:15
really
24:15
powerful
24:16
concepts.
24:17
And
24:17
I
24:17
would
24:18
argue,
24:18
and
24:18
I've
24:18
heard
24:18
actually
24:19
heard
24:19
some
24:19
people
24:19
say
24:19
that,
24:20
that,
24:20
that
24:20
Star
24:20
wars
24:20
is
24:21
propaganda.
24:21
That
24:22
the
24:22
people
24:22
that
24:22
do
24:22
see
24:24
the,
24:24
the
24:25
more
24:25
political
24:25
side
24:26
but
24:27
argue
24:27
with
24:28
the
24:28
political
24:28
side
24:29
and
24:29
then
24:29
the
24:30
nature
24:30
of
24:30
the
24:30
commentary
24:31
of
24:31
it.
24:31
But
24:31
I
24:31
would,
24:32
I
24:32
would
24:32
argue
24:32
that
24:32
it's
24:32
more
24:32
descriptive.
24:33
It's,
24:33
it's,
24:34
it's
24:34
allowing
24:34
the
24:35
viewer
24:35
to
24:36
see
24:36
it
24:37
but
24:37
doesn't
24:37
prescribe
24:38
this
24:38
is
24:38
how
24:38
you
24:39
should
24:39
live.
24:39
It
24:39
doesn't
24:40
say
24:40
you
24:40
should
24:40
be
24:40
the
24:40
rebel.
24:41
It
24:41
doesn't
24:42
say.
24:43
I
24:43
mean
24:43
it
24:43
kind
24:43
of
24:44
gives
24:44
off
24:44
more
24:44
of
24:44
like
24:45
the
24:45
rebels
24:45
are
24:45
good.
24:45
But
24:46
I
24:46
would
24:46
say
24:46
that
24:47
because
24:48
it
24:48
doesn't,
24:48
it
24:49
shows
24:49
that
24:49
the
24:49
rebels,
24:50
they
24:50
have
24:50
their
24:50
own
24:50
flaws
24:51
and
24:52
whatnot.
24:53
So
24:53
it
24:53
doesn't
24:53
show
24:53
them
24:54
as
24:54
like
24:54
these
24:54
perfect
24:54
good
24:55
guys.
24:56
There's
24:56
a
24:56
lot
24:56
of
24:57
infighting
24:57
between
24:57
them,
24:58
especially
24:58
with
24:59
the
24:59
latest
25:00
ones
25:00
like
25:00
Andor
25:01
you
25:01
see
25:01
a
25:01
lot
25:01
of
25:01
like
25:02
fighting
25:02
with
25:02
Saw
25:03
Gerrera
25:03
and
25:04
the
25:04
other
25:04
rebel
25:05
coalition.
25:06
So
25:07
I
25:07
would
25:07
argue
25:08
that
25:08
it's
25:08
more
25:09
descriptive,
25:10
but
25:10
I
25:10
could
25:10
definitely
25:10
see
25:11
how
25:11
some
25:11
people
25:11
could
25:11
maybe
25:12
draw
25:12
conclusions
25:13
like
25:13
that.
25:13
But,
25:15
but
25:15
yeah,
25:15
I
25:16
mean
25:16
it
25:16
teaches
25:16
a
25:16
lot
25:17
of
25:17
things
25:17
about
25:18
world
25:18
of
25:18
greedy
25:19
corporations,
25:19
corporate
25:20
politicians,
25:20
authoritarianism,
25:21
oppression,
25:22
imperial
25:22
wars,
25:24
but
25:25
centers
25:25
everything
25:26
and
25:26
values
25:26
like
25:26
courage,
25:27
freedom,
25:27
friendship
25:28
and
25:28
hope
25:28
of
25:29
overcoming
25:29
all
25:29
those
25:30
evils.
25:32
So
25:32
yeah,
25:33
I
25:33
don't
25:33
know
25:33
if
25:33
you
25:33
guys
25:33
have
25:33
any
25:34
thoughts
25:34
on
25:34
the
25:34
propaganda
25:35
side
25:35
of
25:35
anything
25:36
like
25:36
that
25:37
real
25:37
fast.
25:38
Evan,
25:38
I
25:39
would
25:39
love
25:39
to
25:39
hear
25:39
your
25:39
thoughts,
25:39
but
25:40
I
25:41
think
25:41
it's
25:41
again
25:42
this
25:42
book,
25:43
what
25:43
it
25:44
illuminated
25:45
for
25:45
me
25:46
was
25:46
that
25:46
Palpatine.
25:47
Yes.
25:47
In
25:47
a
25:47
Death
25:48
Star,
25:48
yes,
25:48
he
25:49
could
25:49
shoot
25:50
force
25:50
lightning
25:50
out
25:51
of
25:51
his
25:51
fingers.
25:52
But
25:52
there's
25:53
also
25:53
this
25:53
aspect
25:54
of
25:57
drawing
25:57
you
25:58
in
25:59
to
26:00
help
26:00
you.
26:01
The
26:01
control
26:01
and
26:02
power
26:02
isn't
26:03
just
26:03
with
26:04
these
26:04
big
26:04
major
26:04
weapons,
26:05
but
26:06
the
26:06
way
26:07
to
26:08
control
26:08
planets
26:09
and
26:09
systems
26:09
and
26:09
their
26:10
economy
26:11
and
26:12
their
26:12
resources
26:13
to
26:14
have,
26:14
have
26:14
control
26:14
and
26:14
power
26:15
over
26:15
how
26:15
people
26:16
lived
26:16
their
26:17
daily
26:17
lives.
26:17
Not
26:18
just,
26:19
not
26:19
just
26:19
to
26:19
blow
26:20
up
26:20
planets,
26:20
but
26:21
to,
26:21
to
26:21
rule.
26:22
To
26:22
say
26:22
that
26:22
we,
26:24
they
26:24
are
26:24
imperials
26:25
and
26:26
colonists
26:26
when
26:26
it
26:27
comes
26:27
to
26:28
these
26:28
particular
26:28
systems
26:29
and,
26:29
and
26:29
people
26:30
that,
26:30
that,
26:30
that
26:31
is
26:31
what's,
26:31
what's
26:32
going
26:32
on
26:32
going
26:32
on
26:32
here.
26:33
And
26:33
as
26:33
you
26:33
mentioned
26:33
like
26:33
the
26:34
Andor
26:34
series,
26:35
it
26:35
really
26:35
shows
26:36
that
26:37
these
26:37
rebels
26:37
aren't,
26:38
aren't
26:38
perfect
26:38
at
26:38
all.
26:39
They
26:40
all
26:40
have
26:40
flaws.
26:41
They
26:41
have
26:41
their.
26:41
Everybody
26:42
has
26:42
their
26:42
own
26:43
rebellion
26:44
as
26:44
they
26:44
said.
26:45
And,
26:45
and
26:46
but
26:47
what,
26:48
what
26:48
draws
26:48
them
26:49
into
26:49
the
26:49
rebellion
26:50
is
26:50
that
26:51
what
26:51
they
26:51
care
26:52
about
26:52
or
26:52
who
26:52
they
26:52
love
26:53
is
26:53
being
26:54
hurt
26:54
or
26:54
oppressed
26:55
or
26:55
literally
26:56
killed.
26:57
And
26:57
so
26:58
they
26:58
are
26:59
seen
26:59
from
26:59
their
26:59
point
26:59
of
27:00
view
27:00
like
27:00
no,
27:00
no,
27:00
no,
27:01
no
27:01
no
27:01
no
27:01
no.
27:01
What
27:02
I
27:02
care
27:02
and
27:02
who
27:02
I
27:03
love
27:03
is
27:04
being
27:04
hurt
27:04
and
27:04
taken
27:05
away
27:05
from
27:05
me
27:06
because
27:06
of
27:06
this
27:06
lust
27:07
for
27:07
power
27:07
and
27:07
control
27:08
over
27:08
people's
27:08
lives.
27:09
And
27:09
I
27:09
think
27:09
that
27:10
that's
27:10
what
27:10
we
27:10
see
27:10
in
27:10
our
27:10
present
27:11
day
27:11
context
27:11
when
27:11
it
27:12
comes
27:12
to
27:12
like
27:12
the
27:12
battle
27:12
against
27:13
public
27:13
education
27:14
and
27:16
what's
27:16
being
27:16
funded
27:17
or
27:17
not
27:17
funded
27:17
or
27:17
the
27:18
battle
27:18
against
27:18
universities
27:19
because
27:19
they
27:19
understand
27:20
that
27:20
that
27:20
education
27:22
and
27:23
propaganda
27:27
comes
27:27
with
27:27
power.
27:27
It's
27:28
going
27:28
to
27:28
threaten
27:28
their
27:28
power
27:29
or
27:29
threaten
27:29
their
27:29
influence.
27:30
And
27:31
so
27:31
it's
27:32
not
27:32
just
27:32
like
27:33
Palpatine's,
27:34
not
27:34
Darth
27:34
Sidious,
27:34
not
27:35
just
27:35
a
27:35
force
27:35
user
27:36
who
27:36
can't
27:37
wait
27:37
to
27:37
shoot
27:37
force
27:37
lightning
27:38
out
27:38
of
27:38
you.
27:38
But
27:38
it's
27:39
the
27:39
small
27:39
things
27:39
of
27:40
power
27:40
control
27:41
that
27:41
matter
27:41
in
27:41
that
27:42
quest
27:42
for
27:42
ruling
27:43
the
27:43
universe.
27:44
Ultimate
27:44
power
27:44
and
27:45
control.
27:45
Evan
27:45
any
27:46
bring
27:46
up
27:46
for
27:46
you
27:47
in
27:47
terms
27:47
of
27:47
what's
27:48
going
27:48
on
27:48
there?
27:48
No.
27:49
No.
27:49
Yeah.
27:50
Just
27:50
that
27:50
the,
27:51
that
27:51
the
27:52
Empire
27:53
is.
27:54
Is
27:54
all
27:54
about
27:54
control
27:55
and,
27:56
and.
27:56
And
27:57
subjecting
27:57
you
27:58
to
27:58
order
27:58
to,
27:59
to.
28:00
To
28:00
have
28:01
order
28:01
in,
28:02
in
28:03
the
28:03
guise
28:03
of.
28:03
Of
28:03
a
28:04
fake
28:04
peace
28:05
where
28:05
there's
28:06
no
28:06
conflict.
28:07
But
28:07
then
28:08
we,
28:08
we
28:09
remember
28:09
that
28:10
that,
28:12
that
28:12
once
28:13
you
28:16
when
28:16
you
28:16
start
28:17
oppressing
28:17
then
28:19
that's
28:19
when
28:20
you
28:20
start
28:21
seeing
28:21
a
28:21
rebellion.
28:22
And
28:23
I
28:23
think
28:23
where
28:24
the
28:24
book
28:25
comes
28:25
in
28:25
it
28:25
says
28:26
where,
28:27
where
28:27
the
28:28
the
28:29
Empire
28:29
was
28:30
was
28:30
what
28:31
only
28:31
24
28:32
years.
28:32
So
28:33
people
28:33
still
28:33
knew
28:34
what
28:34
life
28:34
was
28:34
like
28:35
before.
28:36
So
28:36
they
28:37
were
28:37
so,
28:38
so
28:39
they
28:39
knew
28:40
they
28:40
weren't
28:40
stupid.
28:41
That
28:41
they
28:41
were
28:41
being
28:43
oppressed
28:43
and,
28:44
and
28:44
they
28:44
were
28:44
being
28:46
taken
28:46
away
28:46
systems
28:47
and
28:47
the
28:47
freedoms
28:48
and,
28:49
and
28:49
leaving
28:50
the
28:50
spin
28:51
on
28:52
things
28:52
like
28:52
the
28:53
Gorman
28:53
massacre
28:53
that
28:54
we'll
28:54
get
28:54
into
28:54
later.
28:55
It
28:55
doesn't
28:56
really
28:56
fly
28:56
with,
28:57
with,
28:58
with
28:58
everyone
28:59
because
28:59
there's
29:00
that
29:00
little
29:00
bit
29:00
of
29:00
hope
29:00
in
29:01
all
29:01
of
29:01
us
29:02
to,
29:03
to.
29:04
To
29:05
resist.
29:05
You
29:06
know.
29:06
Could
29:07
you
29:07
say
29:07
that
29:07
rebellions
29:08
are
29:08
built
29:08
on
29:09
hope?
29:12
I
29:12
think
29:13
I've
29:13
hear
29:14
somewhere,
29:14
well
29:14
a
29:15
little
29:15
bit
29:15
later
29:15
on
29:15
when
29:15
you
29:15
know
29:16
and
29:16
or
29:16
on
29:17
Mossman's
29:17
speech
29:18
to,
29:18
to
29:18
the
29:18
Senate
29:19
and
29:19
to
29:19
the
29:19
really
29:20
the
29:20
galaxy
29:20
is
29:21
that
29:21
the
29:21
death
29:21
of
29:22
truth
29:22
is
29:23
the
29:23
greatest
29:23
evil.
29:24
And
29:24
so
29:24
if
29:24
you
29:24
can
29:24
twist
29:25
the
29:25
truth
29:26
in
29:26
a
29:26
way
29:26
that
29:28
you
29:29
know,
29:30
shapes
29:30
or
29:31
commodifies
29:32
or
29:33
uses
29:34
people
29:34
for,
29:35
for
29:35
power,
29:35
political,
29:36
whatever.
29:37
I
29:38
think,
29:38
I
29:38
think
29:38
that's
29:38
where
29:38
you
29:39
see
29:39
people
29:40
rise
29:40
up
29:40
and
29:41
that,
29:41
that
29:41
goes
29:42
into
29:42
our
29:42
world
29:42
too.
29:44
I
29:46
again,
29:47
that,
29:47
that
29:47
whole
29:48
idea
29:48
of
29:48
the
29:48
Empire
29:49
being
29:49
a
29:49
black
29:50
hole
29:50
is
29:51
amazing
29:51
to
29:51
me.
29:52
Again,
29:52
Mark,
29:52
I
29:52
can't.
29:53
Yeah,
29:53
it's
29:53
24
29:54
years,
29:55
but
29:55
the
29:55
lead
29:55
up
29:56
to
29:56
it,
29:56
I
29:56
guess
29:56
there's
29:56
a
29:56
lot
29:57
of
29:57
years
29:57
that
29:57
lead
29:57
up
29:58
to
29:58
this
29:58
and
29:58
then
29:58
there's
29:59
years
29:59
that
29:59
happen
29:59
after
30:00
it.
30:00
But
30:00
the
30:00
actual
30:01
control
30:01
of
30:01
the
30:01
Empire
30:02
and
30:02
the
30:02
away
30:03
with
30:03
the
30:03
Senate
30:03
and
30:04
the
30:04
Death
30:04
Star
30:05
in
30:05
the
30:05
relatively,
30:06
you
30:07
know,
30:08
the
30:08
history
30:08
of
30:09
it
30:09
all
30:09
the
30:09
years,
30:09
it's
30:09
really
30:10
relatively
30:10
short
30:11
time
30:12
and
30:12
I
30:12
guess
30:12
you
30:12
got
30:12
to
30:13
tell
30:13
these
30:13
stories
30:13
and
30:13
you
30:13
have
30:13
these
30:14
generations
30:14
of
30:14
people
30:14
that
30:14
are
30:15
in
30:15
it,
30:15
legacy
30:15
characters.
30:17
But
30:17
I,
30:18
I
30:18
did
30:18
love
30:18
reading
30:19
about
30:20
the
30:20
different
30:21
aspects
30:22
of
30:23
government
30:23
history,
30:24
funding,
30:25
the
30:26
technology
30:26
behind
30:27
of
30:27
it
30:27
all.
30:27
Again,
30:28
we
30:28
have
30:28
to
30:28
remember
30:28
this
30:28
is
30:29
in
30:29
a
30:29
galaxy
30:29
far,
30:29
far
30:29
a
30:30
long
30:30
time
30:30
ago
30:30
in
30:30
a
30:30
galaxy
30:31
far,
30:31
far
30:31
away.
30:33
But
30:33
yet
30:33
the
30:34
way
30:34
this
30:34
world
30:34
has
30:35
been
30:35
built,
30:35
this
30:35
galaxy
30:36
has
30:36
been
30:36
built,
30:37
it's
30:37
hard
30:38
not
30:38
to
30:38
be
30:38
able
30:38
to
30:39
look
30:39
at
30:39
it
30:39
through
30:39
our
30:39
own
30:40
lens.
30:41
Yeah,
30:41
definitely.
30:42
And
30:42
I'd
30:42
like
30:43
to
30:43
add,
30:43
because
30:43
you're
30:43
talking
30:44
about
30:44
the
30:44
technologies
30:45
that
30:45
were
30:46
developed
30:46
by
30:46
the
30:46
Empire
30:47
as
30:47
well
30:47
as
30:48
colonizing
30:49
other
30:49
planets
30:50
and
30:50
overtaking
30:51
the
30:51
resources,
30:52
imprisoning
30:53
people
30:53
into
30:54
labor
30:54
camps.
30:55
We
30:55
even
30:55
saw
30:55
that
30:56
in
30:56
the
30:56
movie
30:56
Solo.
30:58
Even
30:58
Jyn
30:59
on
30:59
the
31:00
beginning
31:00
of
31:00
the
31:00
movie
31:00
of
31:02
Rogue
31:02
One,
31:02
she
31:02
would
31:02
be
31:02
taken
31:03
to
31:03
a
31:03
labor
31:03
camp.
31:05
But
31:05
you
31:05
know,
31:06
in
31:06
the
31:06
book
31:06
it
31:06
even
31:06
talks
31:07
about
31:07
planets
31:07
like
31:08
Kylov
31:09
with
31:09
the,
31:09
with
31:10
the,
31:10
the
31:10
Twi'
31:11
leks
31:11
and
31:11
the
31:12
Mimban
31:12
and,
31:13
and
31:13
talking
31:14
about
31:14
how
31:15
there
31:15
were
31:15
certain
31:16
planets
31:16
that
31:16
put
31:16
up
31:16
a
31:16
rebellion
31:17
against
31:18
like
31:18
their
31:18
own
31:18
rebellion
31:19
against
31:20
the
31:20
empires
31:21
move
31:21
into
31:21
their,
31:22
their
31:22
planet,
31:23
their
31:23
space,
31:23
their
31:23
territory,
31:24
trying
31:24
to
31:25
extract
31:25
their,
31:26
their
31:26
precious
31:26
resources
31:27
from
31:27
the,
31:27
the
31:27
Earth.
31:28
And,
31:29
and
31:30
it,
31:30
it
31:30
talks
31:31
about
31:31
how
31:32
it
31:32
actually
31:32
made
31:32
those,
31:33
like,
31:33
it
31:33
made
31:34
light
31:34
of
31:34
those
31:35
possibilities
31:37
even
31:37
though
31:37
they
31:38
weren't
31:38
really
31:38
gaining
31:38
traction
31:39
on
31:39
those
31:39
planets
31:40
to
31:40
really,
31:40
you
31:40
know,
31:41
take
31:41
them
31:41
over.
31:41
The
31:41
people
31:42
were
31:42
resisting.
31:42
They
31:43
found
31:43
other
31:43
ways
31:44
to
31:44
make
31:44
use
31:44
of
31:44
those
31:45
planets
31:45
by
31:46
making
31:46
it
31:47
like
31:47
a
31:47
test
31:47
ground
31:47
for
31:48
new
31:48
weaponry
31:49
or
31:50
to.
31:50
You
31:51
know,
31:51
it
31:51
talks
31:52
about
31:52
blooding
31:52
the
31:53
new
31:53
new
31:54
recruits
31:55
so
31:55
that
31:55
they
31:55
could,
31:56
could
31:56
get,
31:56
you
31:57
know,
31:57
just
31:57
be
31:57
thrown
31:57
in
31:57
the,
31:58
in
31:58
the
31:58
mix.
31:58
They're
31:59
taught,
31:59
you
31:59
know,
31:59
being
31:59
like
32:00
mud
32:00
troopers,
32:01
like
32:01
on
32:01
Mimban,
32:02
how
32:02
the,
32:03
the,
32:03
the
32:03
terrain
32:04
was
32:04
so
32:05
muddy
32:05
and,
32:06
and
32:06
treacherous
32:07
to
32:07
try
32:07
to
32:07
get
32:07
in.
32:07
And
32:08
like
32:08
the,
32:08
the
32:09
locals
32:09
knew
32:09
the
32:09
terrain
32:10
and
32:10
they
32:10
had
32:10
the
32:10
advantage.
32:11
It
32:11
makes
32:11
me
32:12
think
32:12
of
32:12
like
32:12
Afghanistan
32:13
or
32:13
Iraq,
32:13
the,
32:14
the,
32:14
the
32:15
territory
32:15
or
32:16
Even
32:16
like
32:16
Lebanon
32:17
with
32:17
Israel
32:18
trying
32:18
to,
32:19
you
32:19
know,
32:20
invade
32:21
in
32:21
there.
32:21
But
32:21
of
32:21
course,
32:21
the.
32:22
The
32:22
terrain
32:22
was.
32:22
It
32:23
wasn't
32:23
to
32:23
their
32:23
favor
32:24
and
32:24
they.
32:24
They
32:24
had
32:24
ended
32:25
up
32:25
pulling
32:25
back
32:25
and
32:26
not.
32:26
Not
32:27
getting
32:27
any
32:27
ground
32:28
on
32:28
that.
32:28
But
32:29
it
32:29
also
32:29
makes
32:30
me
32:30
think
32:30
of
32:30
like,
32:30
the
32:30
testing
32:31
of
32:31
weapons.
32:31
Makes
32:31
me
32:32
think
32:32
of.
32:33
Sorry
32:33
to
32:33
throw
32:33
like,
32:33
you
32:34
know,
32:34
buzzwords
32:34
in
32:34
here,
32:35
but
32:35
Gaza,
32:35
and
32:36
Gaza
32:36
has
32:36
notoriously
32:37
been
32:37
a
32:38
test
32:38
ground
32:38
for
32:40
the
32:40
latest,
32:40
newest
32:41
weaponry
32:41
for
32:42
militaries
32:42
around
32:43
the
32:43
world,
32:43
particularly
32:43
for
32:44
Israel
32:44
and
32:45
America
32:45
within
32:46
the.
32:46
The
32:47
industrial
32:47
military
32:48
weapons
32:48
complex.
32:49
So,
32:50
So
32:50
I
32:51
thought,
32:51
you
32:51
know,
32:51
it's
32:52
interesting
32:52
to.
32:53
To
32:53
read
32:53
about
32:53
some
32:54
of
32:54
these
32:54
a
32:54
little
32:54
bit
32:54
more
32:54
because,
32:55
you
32:55
know,
32:55
you,
32:56
you
32:56
know
32:56
about
32:56
like
32:56
Kyloth
32:59
and
33:00
what's
33:00
the
33:01
kids.
33:02
The
33:02
animated
33:02
show,
33:03
the
33:03
Rebels,
33:03
or
33:04
was
33:04
it
33:04
Rebels
33:04
or
33:05
maybe
33:05
it
33:05
was
33:05
that
33:05
Clone
33:05
Wars.
33:07
So
33:07
it
33:07
kind
33:07
of
33:08
digs
33:08
into
33:08
that
33:08
a
33:08
little
33:08
bit.
33:09
And
33:09
then
33:10
they
33:10
even
33:10
talk
33:11
about
33:13
right
33:13
here,
33:14
these
33:14
guys,
33:15
about
33:15
how
33:16
the
33:16
genocide
33:17
on
33:17
their
33:17
world
33:17
as
33:17
well.
33:20
Mandalorians.
33:21
Sorry,
33:22
brain
33:22
fart.
33:23
But
33:24
yeah,
33:24
I
33:24
thought
33:24
it
33:24
was
33:24
really
33:25
interesting.
33:25
The
33:25
book
33:25
kind
33:25
of
33:25
digs
33:26
a
33:26
little
33:26
bit
33:26
deeper
33:26
in
33:26
some
33:27
of
33:27
this
33:27
and
33:27
you
33:27
even
33:27
talks
33:28
about
33:28
more
33:28
of
33:28
the
33:28
Empire
33:29
side
33:29
as
33:29
opposed
33:29
to
33:30
like
33:30
the.
33:30
What's
33:31
happening
33:31
with
33:32
the
33:32
actual
33:32
local
33:33
people
33:33
on
33:33
those
33:33
planets.
33:34
So
33:35
I
33:35
thought
33:35
those.
33:36
A
33:36
good
33:37
angle
33:37
to
33:37
look
33:38
at
33:38
it.
33:38
And
33:39
I
33:39
think
33:39
an
33:39
aspect
33:39
of
33:40
that
33:40
that
33:40
helped
33:42
help
33:43
me
33:43
understand
33:43
or
33:43
at
33:44
least
33:44
kind
33:44
of
33:44
go
33:45
a
33:45
little
33:45
deeper
33:45
with
33:45
is
33:46
this
33:46
understanding
33:47
of
33:47
not
33:47
just
33:47
like
33:48
white
33:48
supremacy,
33:49
but
33:49
like
33:50
this,
33:50
this.
33:50
This
33:51
idea
33:51
of
33:52
seeing
33:52
themselves
33:52
as
33:53
better
33:53
than,
33:53
higher
33:53
than
33:54
the.
33:54
Those.
33:55
Those.
33:55
Those
33:56
savages
33:56
or
33:56
those
33:56
people
33:57
who
33:57
are.
33:58
Are
33:58
just.
33:59
They're
33:59
just
34:00
better
34:00
than
34:00
the
34:00
other.
34:00
So
34:00
we
34:00
saw
34:01
that
34:01
in
34:01
Andor.
34:01
But
34:01
like
34:02
also
34:02
the
34:03
Empire
34:03
going
34:03
in
34:03
these
34:04
places
34:04
to
34:05
use
34:05
the
34:05
planet
34:06
and
34:06
their
34:06
resources
34:06
for
34:07
their
34:07
own
34:07
good,
34:07
to.
34:08
To
34:08
expand
34:09
their
34:09
power
34:09
and
34:09
control.
34:10
They
34:10
look
34:11
at
34:11
the
34:11
people
34:11
and
34:11
the
34:11
indigenous
34:12
people
34:12
on
34:12
these
34:13
planets
34:13
to
34:13
see
34:13
them
34:14
as
34:14
less
34:15
than
34:18
primitive,
34:19
not
34:19
as
34:19
advanced
34:20
or
34:20
as
34:20
better
34:20
than.
34:21
Than
34:21
they
34:21
are.
34:22
And,
34:22
And
34:23
I
34:23
think
34:23
that,
34:25
you
34:25
know,
34:25
you
34:25
have
34:25
part
34:26
some
34:26
of
34:26
that
34:26
in
34:26
the
34:26
Jedi.
34:27
You
34:27
have
34:27
hubris,
34:27
you
34:28
have
34:28
ego
34:28
that
34:28
they're
34:28
wrestling
34:29
with.
34:29
But
34:30
I
34:30
really
34:30
think
34:30
this
34:30
dark
34:30
side
34:31
of
34:31
the
34:31
Force,
34:31
you
34:31
see
34:32
Palpatine,
34:33
Darth
34:34
Sidious,
34:35
I'm
34:35
the
34:35
one
34:35
who
34:35
has
34:36
all
34:36
the
34:36
answers.
34:36
I'm
34:36
the
34:37
one
34:37
that's
34:37
going
34:37
to
34:37
bring
34:37
all
34:38
the
34:38
power
34:38
and
34:38
the
34:38
control
34:39
and
34:39
then
34:39
the
34:40
followers
34:40
that's
34:40
built
34:41
up
34:41
around
34:41
him,
34:42
the
34:42
yes
34:42
men,
34:43
the
34:43
yes
34:43
women,
34:44
the
34:44
isb,
34:45
whatever
34:45
there
34:45
is
34:46
that
34:46
help
34:46
them
34:46
stay
34:47
into
34:47
power
34:48
is
34:48
really
34:48
the
34:48
control
34:49
of
34:49
the
34:49
people
34:49
and
34:50
to
34:50
see
34:50
themselves
34:50
as
34:51
better
34:51
than.
34:52
And
34:52
so
34:52
anything
34:53
justifies
34:53
any
34:54
action
34:54
that
34:54
they're
34:54
going
34:55
to
34:55
have
34:55
against
34:56
that
34:56
planet
34:56
because
34:57
it's
34:57
for
34:57
the
34:57
greater
34:58
good
34:58
of
34:58
their
34:58
own
34:58
good,
35:00
what
35:00
they
35:00
want
35:00
to
35:01
commodify
35:02
or
35:02
use
35:03
for
35:03
their
35:03
own
35:03
benefit.
35:04
So
35:04
reading
35:05
this
35:05
book
35:05
helped
35:05
me
35:06
understand.
35:07
Oh
35:07
yeah,
35:08
yeah.
35:08
There's
35:08
different,
35:10
different
35:10
times
35:10
in
35:11
world
35:11
history
35:11
and
35:11
in
35:11
American
35:12
history
35:12
when
35:13
we've
35:13
done
35:13
the
35:13
same
35:14
thing.
35:14
And,
35:15
and
35:15
again,
35:15
if
35:15
that
35:16
makes
35:16
you
35:16
feel
35:16
uncomfortable,
35:17
we're
35:17
not.
35:18
Look,
35:18
the
35:18
reason
35:19
that
35:19
we're
35:19
talking
35:19
to
35:19
this
35:20
is
35:20
because
35:20
we
35:20
care
35:21
about
35:22
our
35:22
loved
35:22
ones
35:22
and
35:23
our
35:23
neighbors
35:23
and
35:23
we
35:23
care
35:23
about
35:24
our
35:24
country.
35:25
And
35:25
so,
35:26
so
35:26
yeah,
35:26
the
35:27
reason
35:27
we
35:28
speak
35:28
up
35:28
against
35:29
wrongdoings
35:30
and
35:30
against
35:31
Empire,
35:31
if
35:31
we
35:32
see
35:32
our
35:32
contract
35:32
in
35:33
that
35:33
way
35:33
is
35:33
because
35:33
we
35:33
care
35:34
and
35:34
we
35:34
love
35:34
our
35:34
country
35:34
and
35:34
that's
35:35
why
35:35
we
35:35
could
35:35
be
35:35
critical
35:36
towards
35:36
it.
35:37
And
35:38
that's
35:38
what
35:38
I
35:38
feel
35:38
like
35:39
this
35:39
book
35:39
helped
35:40
me
35:40
do.
35:41
And
35:41
again,
35:42
when
35:42
you
35:42
present
35:43
this
35:43
to
35:43
us,
35:43
it's
35:43
like,
35:43
oh
35:44
man,
35:44
I
35:44
don't
35:44
have
35:44
the
35:44
time
35:44
or
35:45
the
35:45
bandwidth
35:45
to
35:45
read
35:45
this
35:45
whole
35:46
thick
35:46
book.
35:47
But
35:48
at
35:48
the
35:48
time
35:49
of
35:50
rewatching
35:51
Andor
35:51
season
35:52
one
35:52
and
35:53
then
35:53
watching
35:54
Andor
35:54
season
35:54
two
35:55
as
35:55
it's
35:55
being
35:55
dropped
35:55
while
35:56
reading
35:56
this
35:56
book,
35:56
it
35:57
added
35:57
a
35:57
depth
35:57
depth
35:58
to
35:58
the
35:58
Star
35:58
wars
35:58
universe.
35:59
I
35:59
didn't
35:59
know
36:00
was
36:00
was
36:01
coming
36:01
my
36:01
way.
36:01
It's
36:02
a
36:02
nice
36:02
surprise
36:02
in
36:03
this
36:03
season
36:03
of
36:04
a
36:04
Star
36:04
wars.
36:04
Being
36:04
a
36:05
Star
36:05
wars
36:05
fan
36:05
and
36:05
the
36:05
season
36:06
that
36:06
I'm
36:06
in
36:06
of
36:07
being
36:07
a
36:07
Star
36:07
wars
36:07
fan.
36:08
This,
36:08
this
36:08
added
36:08
a
36:09
depth
36:09
that
36:10
I
36:10
really
36:10
appreciate
36:11
and
36:11
I
36:11
highly
36:11
recommend
36:13
this
36:14
this
36:14
book.
36:15
Mark,
36:16
I
36:16
know
36:16
that
36:16
on
36:16
your
36:16
own
36:17
show
36:17
you're
36:17
going
36:17
to
36:17
talk
36:17
more
36:18
about
36:18
it
36:18
and,
36:18
and
36:19
go
36:19
in
36:19
depth.
36:19
I
36:19
can't
36:20
wait
36:20
to
36:20
hear
36:20
that.
36:20
But
36:20
in
36:21
terms
36:21
of,
36:21
you
36:22
know,
36:22
before
36:22
we
36:22
move
36:22
over
36:22
to
36:22
kind
36:23
of
36:23
like
36:23
Andor
36:24
season
36:24
one
36:24
and
36:25
two
36:25
and
36:25
what
36:25
we
36:25
thought
36:26
we
36:26
finished.
36:26
Finished.
36:26
We've
36:27
all
36:27
finished
36:27
watching
36:27
the
36:28
show.
36:28
We're
36:28
done.
36:28
We
36:29
finished.
36:31
Mark,
36:31
have
36:31
you
36:31
finished
36:32
have
36:32
you
36:32
completed
36:32
and
36:33
or
36:33
season
36:33
two?
36:34
I
36:34
have.
36:35
Yeah,
36:35
I
36:35
have.
36:36
TJ
36:37
might
36:37
hop
36:37
on
36:37
a
36:37
little
36:38
bit.
36:38
We'll
36:38
see
36:38
if
36:38
he
36:38
does.
36:38
I
36:39
don't
36:39
know
36:39
if
36:39
he
36:39
has.
36:39
But
36:40
before
36:40
we
36:40
get
36:40
into
36:40
that,
36:41
like
36:41
more
36:41
things
36:42
about
36:42
this
36:42
book,
36:42
I'm
36:42
interested.
36:43
I'm
36:43
very
36:44
familiar
36:44
with
36:44
the
36:44
prequel
36:45
original
36:46
trilogy
36:46
in
36:47
terms
36:47
of
36:47
sequel
36:47
trilogy,
36:49
the
36:49
third
36:49
act
36:49
of
36:49
this
36:50
book,
36:51
like
36:52
the
36:52
Road
36:52
to
36:53
Jacqueline,
36:55
thoughts
36:55
on
36:56
that,
36:56
like
36:57
that
36:57
whole
36:57
thing,
36:58
Even
36:58
though
36:58
Palpatine
36:59
supposedly
37:00
died,
37:01
even
37:01
though
37:01
the
37:01
Death
37:02
Star
37:02
blew
37:02
up,
37:03
there's
37:03
still
37:03
remnants
37:04
of
37:04
this
37:04
Empire
37:05
that
37:06
can
37:06
get
37:06
control
37:06
again
37:07
in
37:07
the
37:07
Road
37:07
to
37:07
Takku
37:08
and
37:08
the
37:09
First
37:09
Order.
37:10
Any
37:11
thoughts
37:11
on
37:11
that?
37:13
Are
37:13
there
37:13
cautionary
37:14
tales
37:14
or
37:14
things
37:14
we
37:14
can
37:15
learn
37:15
from
37:15
that
37:16
part
37:16
of
37:16
the
37:16
book
37:17
in
37:17
our
37:17
own
37:17
world
37:18
or
37:18
in
37:18
kinds
37:19
of
37:19
the
37:19
Star
37:19
wars
37:20
lore
37:21
per
37:21
se.
37:22
I
37:23
think
37:23
it
37:23
is
37:23
a
37:23
cautionary
37:24
tale
37:24
in
37:25
the
37:25
sense
37:25
of
37:26
that
37:27
there
37:27
will.
37:27
That
37:28
there
37:28
will
37:28
always
37:28
be
37:29
good,
37:29
but
37:29
there
37:29
will
37:30
always
37:30
be
37:31
evil
37:32
there
37:32
too.
37:33
And
37:34
I
37:34
don't
37:34
think
37:35
completely
37:36
eliminating
37:37
one
37:37
or
37:37
the
37:37
other
37:38
is
37:39
going
37:39
to.
37:39
Is
37:40
gonna
37:40
solve
37:40
the
37:40
solution.
37:41
It's
37:41
because.
37:42
Because.
37:42
Because
37:43
that's
37:43
control.
37:44
That's.
37:45
That's
37:45
not
37:45
the
37:45
point.
37:46
It's
37:46
something
37:47
else
37:47
entirely.
37:48
So
37:48
I
37:49
think
37:50
that's
37:51
third.
37:52
Third
37:52
trilogy
37:52
was
37:53
trying
37:53
to
37:53
touch
37:53
on
37:54
that.
37:54
It's
37:55
always
37:55
going
37:55
to
37:55
be
37:55
there.
37:57
I
37:58
actually
37:58
forgot
37:58
this
37:58
part
37:59
of
37:59
the
37:59
book.
38:02
So
38:02
is
38:02
it
38:02
just
38:03
like
38:04
what
38:04
did
38:05
she
38:05
happen
38:05
on
38:05
Jakku?
38:06
Maybe
38:06
we
38:06
can.
38:07
In
38:07
case
38:07
our
38:07
listeners.
38:08
The
38:09
final
38:09
battles
38:10
where
38:11
it
38:11
was
38:12
basically
38:12
the
38:12
Empire's
38:13
last
38:13
stand.
38:14
They
38:14
all
38:14
had
38:14
their.
38:16
They
38:16
all
38:16
came
38:17
together
38:18
except
38:19
the
38:19
Shadow
38:20
Collective.
38:20
The
38:20
Shadow
38:20
Collective
38:21
didn't.
38:22
They
38:22
didn't
38:22
take
38:22
part
38:23
in
38:23
it
38:23
because
38:23
they
38:23
were
38:23
doing
38:24
their
38:24
own
38:24
thing.
38:25
Which
38:25
was
38:25
interesting
38:26
because
38:27
now
38:27
we
38:27
know
38:27
that.
38:27
But.
38:28
But,
38:30
but
38:30
yeah,
38:30
but
38:30
that
38:30
was
38:31
the
38:31
old.
38:32
No,
38:32
the.
38:33
The.
38:33
The.
38:34
The
38:34
Empire's
38:35
last
38:35
stand
38:35
where.
38:37
Where
38:37
Hooray
38:37
is
38:38
at
38:38
the.
38:39
At
38:39
the
38:39
beginning
38:40
of
38:40
episode
38:40
seven.
38:41
Is
38:41
that
38:42
Shadow
38:42
Collective
38:42
part
38:43
of
38:43
like
38:43
the
38:43
Thrawn's
38:44
legacy?
38:44
What's
38:45
going
38:45
on
38:45
with
38:45
Thrawn
38:46
as
38:46
well?
38:46
Thrawn
38:47
was
38:47
a
38:47
part
38:48
of
38:48
it
38:48
and
38:49
I
38:49
don.
38:49
Know
38:50
if
38:50
he
38:50
was
38:51
aware
38:51
of
38:51
the
38:52
Empire's
38:53
of
38:53
the.
38:54
Of
38:54
the
38:54
Emperor's
38:55
return.
38:56
But
38:56
he
38:56
knew
38:57
of
38:57
the
38:58
movement
38:58
for
38:59
that.
38:59
I
38:59
don't
39:00
think
39:00
he
39:00
knew
39:00
about
39:00
the
39:00
Final
39:01
Order.
39:02
There
39:02
could
39:02
be
39:03
some.
39:03
Some
39:03
things
39:03
that
39:03
say
39:04
different.
39:04
But.
39:05
Yeah,
39:05
but
39:06
yeah.
39:07
Yeah.
39:08
I
39:08
mean
39:08
I
39:08
think
39:08
it.
39:08
Because
39:09
this
39:09
happened
39:09
well
39:10
after
39:10
episode
39:11
six,
39:11
right.
39:13
Like,
39:13
well
39:14
after
39:14
the
39:14
second
39:14
just
39:15
start.
39:15
Within
39:16
a
39:16
year
39:17
from
39:17
episode
39:18
six,
39:19
probably
39:19
10
39:19
months
39:20
or
39:20
so.
39:20
And
39:21
then
39:22
after
39:22
that
39:22
is
39:23
when
39:23
we
39:23
have.
39:25
When
39:25
we
39:25
have
39:25
the
39:25
show
39:26
like
39:26
the
39:27
Mandalorian
39:28
where
39:29
things
39:29
are
39:29
just
39:29
kind
39:30
of
39:30
wild.
39:31
Yeah.
39:32
And
39:32
I
39:33
think
39:33
this
39:33
is
39:33
commentary
39:34
on
39:34
how
39:35
all
39:35
dictatorships.
39:36
How
39:36
all
39:37
authoritarian
39:38
dictatorships
39:38
and
39:39
governments
39:39
like
39:40
this
39:40
fall
39:41
at
39:41
some
39:41
point.
39:42
I
39:42
mean
39:43
I
39:43
think
39:43
you
39:43
can
39:44
look
39:44
at
39:46
Germany
39:47
and
39:48
their
39:48
last
39:49
push
39:49
was
39:50
try
39:50
to
39:52
invade
39:53
Russia.
39:53
And
39:54
Russia
39:54
didn't
39:54
give
39:54
any
39:55
ground
39:55
and
39:55
they
39:56
actually
39:56
lost
39:56
a
39:57
considerable
39:57
amount
39:57
of
39:58
resources
39:58
and
39:58
men
39:59
because
40:00
Russia
40:00
was
40:00
really
40:00
pushing
40:01
back.
40:02
And
40:02
I
40:02
think
40:03
right
40:03
around
40:03
that
40:04
time
40:04
was
40:04
when
40:04
the
40:05
end
40:05
of
40:05
the
40:05
World
40:06
War
40:06
II
40:06
ended.
40:07
Even.
40:08
Even
40:09
with
40:09
like
40:09
Pol
40:09
Pot.
40:11
You
40:11
know,
40:11
there's
40:11
always
40:12
like
40:12
a.
40:12
A
40:13
last
40:13
stand
40:14
with
40:14
dictatorships.
40:15
And
40:16
I
40:16
think
40:16
that
40:17
Jakku
40:17
was.
40:18
Was
40:18
a
40:18
good
40:18
example
40:19
of.
40:19
Of
40:20
kind
40:20
of
40:20
showcasing
40:20
that
40:21
like
40:21
you
40:21
know,
40:21
last
40:22
ditch
40:22
effort
40:23
to
40:23
try
40:23
to
40:23
hold
40:23
on
40:24
to
40:24
something
40:24
that
40:24
they
40:25
had
40:25
that
40:26
power,
40:26
that
40:26
control
40:27
and.
40:29
Yeah.
40:30
And
40:30
I
40:31
think
40:31
there's
40:31
something
40:31
really
40:31
powerful
40:32
with
40:32
that.
40:32
It
40:32
kind
40:32
of
40:32
makes
40:33
me
40:33
think
40:33
of
40:33
like,
40:34
you
40:35
know,
40:35
like
40:36
Blair
40:36
Mountain
40:36
and,
40:37
and
40:37
the
40:37
Cold
40:37
wars
40:38
and,
40:38
and
40:38
as
40:39
close
40:39
as
40:39
we
40:39
got
40:39
in
40:39
America
40:40
to
40:40
a
40:40
class
40:41
war.
40:43
So.
40:43
Yeah.
40:44
Yeah.
40:45
Mark,
40:46
are
40:46
you
40:46
like
40:46
a
40:46
World
40:47
War
40:47
II
40:47
buff?
40:47
Do
40:47
you
40:47
get
40:47
into
40:48
that
40:48
kind
40:48
of
40:48
stuff
40:48
too?
40:48
Is
40:49
that
40:49
something
40:49
you
40:49
geek
40:49
out
40:49
on
40:50
or
40:50
is,
40:50
or
40:50
is
40:50
this.
40:50
I've
40:51
never
40:51
been
40:52
a
40:52
World
40:52
War
40:52
buff.
40:53
I've
40:53
never
40:53
been
40:53
a
40:53
history
40:54
buff
40:54
until
40:55
I
40:55
don't
40:56
know,
40:56
like
40:56
five,
40:56
six
40:56
years
40:57
ago.
40:57
And
40:57
then
40:57
I
40:57
just
40:57
got
40:58
really
40:58
interested
40:58
in
40:59
reading
40:59
books
41:00
and
41:00
not
41:00
just
41:00
like,
41:00
like
41:01
books,
41:01
but
41:02
like
41:02
non
41:02
fiction
41:03
books,
41:03
like
41:03
biographies
41:04
and
41:04
history
41:05
books.
41:05
And
41:06
I
41:06
just,
41:06
there's
41:07
something
41:07
about
41:07
it
41:07
that
41:08
I,
41:08
it
41:08
just
41:08
gets
41:08
to
41:09
me
41:09
and
41:10
you
41:10
know,
41:10
I
41:11
just
41:11
really
41:11
enjoy
41:11
that.
41:12
So
41:12
it's
41:13
a
41:13
very
41:13
recent
41:14
occurrence
41:15
that
41:15
I've
41:15
been
41:15
looking
41:15
into
41:15
stuff.
41:16
Yeah.
41:17
And
41:17
I
41:17
think
41:17
we,
41:17
we,
41:18
we
41:18
read
41:18
those
41:18
books
41:19
and
41:19
study
41:19
history
41:20
and,
41:21
and
41:21
the
41:21
rise
41:21
and
41:21
Fall
41:21
of
41:22
Galactic
41:23
Empire
41:23
because
41:23
we
41:24
don't
41:24
want
41:24
history
41:24
to
41:24
repeat
41:25
itself.
41:25
We
41:25
don't
41:25
want
41:26
to
41:26
experience
41:26
World
41:26
War
41:26
I,
41:27
World
41:27
War
41:27
II
41:27
again.
41:28
We
41:28
don't
41:28
want
41:28
World
41:28
War
41:29
III.
41:29
We
41:29
don't
41:29
want
41:29
an
41:29
empire.
41:30
We
41:30
want
41:30
a
41:30
dictator.
41:31
And
41:32
um,
41:32
you
41:32
know,
41:33
I
41:33
say
41:33
that
41:33
out
41:34
loud
41:34
knowing
41:34
that,
41:35
you
41:35
know,
41:35
whether
41:35
you're
41:36
the
41:36
lobster
41:36
boiling
41:37
and
41:38
slowly
41:38
and
41:38
boiling
41:39
water
41:39
or,
41:39
or
41:40
you're
41:40
like,
41:40
maybe
41:40
you
41:40
want
41:40
a
41:41
dictator
41:41
because
41:41
that's
41:41
easier
41:42
for
41:42
your,
41:43
for
41:43
your
41:43
life.
41:43
But
41:43
I
41:43
think
41:44
with
41:44
our
41:44
present
41:44
context,
41:45
I
41:45
think
41:45
it's
41:46
important
41:46
now
41:46
more
41:47
than
41:47
ever
41:47
to
41:48
reflect
41:48
on
41:48
these
41:48
things
41:49
because
41:49
we
41:49
don't
41:49
want
41:50
history
41:50
to
41:50
repeat
41:50
itself.
41:51
And
41:51
I
41:51
think
41:51
in,
41:51
in
41:52
Star
41:52
wars,
41:52
that's
41:52
some
41:52
of
41:53
my
41:53
frustration
41:53
with
41:53
the,
41:54
the,
41:54
the
41:54
sequel
41:55
trilogy
41:55
is
41:55
we
41:55
felt
41:56
like
41:56
history
41:56
was
41:56
repeating
41:57
itself
41:57
again.
41:57
Why,
41:58
why
41:58
was
41:58
that
41:59
happening?
41:59
Why
41:59
are
41:59
we
41:59
just
42:00
turning
42:00
a
42:00
planet
42:01
to
42:01
another
42:01
big
42:01
Death
42:01
Star?
42:02
Oh
42:02
great,
42:02
the
42:02
Death
42:02
Star.
42:04
We're
42:04
telling
42:04
the
42:04
same
42:04
story.
42:05
But
42:05
I
42:05
think
42:06
as
42:07
much
42:07
as
42:07
like,
42:07
oh
42:07
man,
42:08
we're
42:08
telling
42:08
the
42:08
same
42:08
story
42:08
again,
42:09
I'm
42:09
frustrated
42:10
man.
42:10
In
42:10
our
42:11
current
42:11
political
42:12
context
42:12
that
42:13
looks
42:13
like
42:13
we're
42:13
doing
42:14
it
42:14
again,
42:14
like
42:15
history
42:15
is
42:15
repeating
42:16
itself.
42:16
So
42:17
I
42:17
think
42:17
it's
42:18
important
42:18
to
42:20
read
42:20
these
42:20
things,
42:21
study
42:21
these
42:21
things,
42:22
because
42:23
we
42:23
don't
42:23
want
42:23
it
42:23
to
42:24
repeat
42:24
itself.
42:26
And
42:26
you
42:26
can
42:26
still
42:26
tell
42:27
the
42:27
small
42:27
stories
42:27
like
42:28
Andor
42:28
and
42:29
others
42:29
that
42:30
will
42:30
help,
42:30
you
42:31
know,
42:31
illustrate
42:32
or
42:32
lift
42:32
up
42:32
or
42:33
shed
42:34
some
42:34
light
42:34
or
42:34
spotlight
42:34
on
42:35
some,
42:35
some
42:35
lesser
42:35
known
42:36
characters
42:36
that
42:36
made
42:37
some
42:37
important
42:37
decisions
42:38
that,
42:39
that
42:39
led
42:39
to
42:39
the,
42:40
to
42:40
the,
42:40
to
42:40
the
42:41
fall
42:41
of
42:41
the
42:41
Galactic
42:42
Empire
42:42
and
42:42
even
42:43
some
42:43
decisions
42:43
that,
42:44
that
42:44
were
42:44
made
42:44
to,
42:45
to
42:45
help
42:45
it
42:45
rise
42:46
again.
42:46
So
42:47
I,
42:47
I,
42:48
I
42:48
think
42:48
it's
42:48
important
42:48
to,
42:49
to
42:49
look
42:49
at
42:49
these
42:49
things.
42:51
So,
42:51
so
42:52
would
42:52
you
42:52
recommend
42:52
this
42:53
book
42:53
to
42:53
others
42:54
after
42:54
experience
42:55
it?
42:55
Was
42:55
this
42:55
a
42:55
book
42:56
that
42:56
you'd
42:56
be
42:56
like,
42:56
hey,
42:57
you
42:57
know,
42:57
if
42:57
you're
42:58
a
42:58
Star
42:58
wars
42:58
fan,
42:58
you
42:59
would
42:59
recommend
42:59
my.
43:00
My,
43:00
my,
43:01
my
43:01
father
43:02
in
43:02
law,
43:03
he
43:03
recently
43:03
got
43:04
into
43:04
Star
43:04
wars
43:04
through
43:05
his
43:05
wife.
43:05
My
43:06
mother
43:06
in
43:06
law,
43:06
they,
43:07
they
43:08
abing
43:08
the
43:08
whole
43:09
thing.
43:09
They
43:09
avenged
43:10
the
43:10
whole
43:10
saga
43:11
a
43:11
couple
43:11
years
43:12
ago
43:12
because
43:13
they've
43:13
seen,
43:14
they
43:14
saw
43:14
Episode
43:15
four
43:15
when
43:16
it
43:16
came
43:16
out
43:17
and
43:17
then
43:17
that
43:17
was
43:18
about
43:18
it.
43:19
And
43:19
then,
43:19
and
43:20
then,
43:20
and
43:20
then,
43:21
and
43:22
then
43:22
I'm,
43:22
I
43:22
am,
43:23
I
43:24
am
43:24
a
43:24
big
43:24
fan.
43:25
Their
43:25
grandkids
43:26
are
43:26
big
43:26
fans
43:26
and
43:27
that
43:27
kind
43:27
of
43:27
got
43:27
them
43:28
into
43:28
it.
43:29
And
43:29
this
43:30
was
43:30
a
43:30
book
43:30
that
43:30
I
43:31
was
43:31
going
43:31
to
43:31
suggest
43:31
to
43:32
my
43:32
father
43:33
in
43:33
law
43:33
because
43:33
he's
43:33
big
43:34
into
43:35
world
43:35
wars
43:36
and
43:36
the
43:36
patterns
43:37
of
43:37
supremacy
43:39
and
43:39
the
43:40
fascination
43:42
with
43:42
large
43:43
governments
43:44
and
43:45
how
43:45
do
43:45
you
43:45
run
43:45
a
43:46
government
43:46
during
43:46
war,
43:47
stuff
43:47
like
43:47
that?
43:49
Yeah,
43:49
this
43:50
would
43:50
be
43:50
a
43:50
good
43:50
book
43:50
for
43:50
them
43:51
to
43:51
read
43:51
for
43:52
sure.
43:52
Dive
43:52
into.
43:53
Mark,
43:53
what's
43:54
your
43:54
overall
43:54
take
43:55
after
43:55
finishing
43:55
the
43:55
book
43:55
and
43:56
then
43:56
luring
43:57
us
43:57
to
43:57
read
43:57
it
43:57
and
43:58
others?
43:58
Is
43:58
this
43:58
something
43:58
that
43:59
you'd
43:59
recommend
43:59
for
43:59
others?
44:00
You
44:00
know,
44:00
you
44:00
were
44:00
at
44:01
the
44:01
algebra
44:01
beer
44:01
camp
44:01
talking
44:02
about
44:02
it.
44:02
What
44:02
are,
44:03
would
44:03
you
44:03
keep,
44:03
would
44:03
you
44:04
keep
44:04
going
44:04
down
44:04
that
44:04
trail?
44:04
You
44:04
still
44:05
kind
44:05
of.
44:06
Are
44:06
you
44:06
going
44:07
to
44:07
get
44:07
out
44:07
there
44:07
with
44:07
a
44:07
propaganda
44:08
poster
44:08
about
44:08
reading
44:08
this
44:09
book?
44:12
I've
44:12
already
44:12
been
44:13
decrying
44:13
it
44:13
from
44:14
the
44:14
mountaintop
44:15
here
44:15
in
44:15
Colorado.
44:16
So
44:16
yeah,
44:17
ever
44:17
since
44:17
September,
44:18
I've
44:18
been
44:18
telling
44:18
all
44:19
my
44:19
friends
44:19
about
44:19
it,
44:19
you
44:20
know,
44:20
whoever
44:20
that
44:20
I
44:20
know
44:21
is
44:21
like
44:21
a
44:21
Star
44:21
wars
44:21
fan
44:22
fan.
44:22
I've
44:22
been
44:22
saying,
44:23
you
44:23
know,
44:23
you
44:23
got
44:23
to
44:23
check
44:23
this
44:24
book
44:24
out.
44:24
It's
44:25
a
44:25
thick
44:25
book,
44:25
but
44:26
it's
44:26
really
44:27
good.
44:27
It'll
44:27
give
44:27
you
44:27
some
44:27
good
44:28
insights.
44:28
I
44:28
think
44:28
so.
44:29
And
44:29
then
44:29
talking
44:30
about,
44:30
you
44:30
know,
44:30
the,
44:31
the
44:31
ideas
44:31
you
44:31
can
44:32
take
44:32
from
44:32
it
44:32
and,
44:32
and
44:33
actually
44:33
see
44:33
things
44:33
in
44:34
real
44:34
life,
44:34
history,
44:35
our
44:35
reality.
44:35
So
44:37
yeah,
44:37
I've
44:37
been,
44:37
I'm
44:38
going
44:38
to
44:38
keep,
44:38
you
44:38
know,
44:38
telling
44:39
people
44:39
to
44:39
check.
44:40
This
44:40
book
44:40
out
44:41
and
44:41
it's
44:41
well
44:41
written
44:42
like
44:42
you
44:42
say,
44:42
like
44:42
the
44:42
author
44:43
is
44:43
a
44:43
World
44:43
War
44:44
II,
44:44
World
44:44
War
44:45
II
44:46
history
44:46
writer
44:46
and
44:47
writes
44:47
it
44:47
that
44:47
way
44:48
and
44:48
it's,
44:48
it's
44:48
accessible,
44:49
it's
44:49
good.
44:50
And
44:50
Mark,
44:51
there
44:51
might
44:51
be
44:51
a
44:51
chance
44:51
that
44:52
you,
44:52
you
44:52
talk
44:52
with
44:52
the
44:52
author
44:53
brother.
44:53
Is
44:53
there
44:53
a
44:53
chance?
44:54
I've
44:55
reached
44:55
out
44:55
to
44:55
him.
44:56
It's
44:57
in
44:57
the
44:57
process
44:57
of
44:58
talking
44:59
with
44:59
Disney
44:59
now,
45:00
see
45:00
if
45:01
I
45:01
could.
45:01
It's,
45:01
it's
45:01
a
45:02
canon
45:02
book.
45:03
It's
45:03
part
45:03
of
45:03
the
45:03
canon.
45:04
So
45:05
I'm
45:05
waiting
45:05
to
45:05
hear
45:06
back
45:06
from
45:06
them.
45:07
So
45:07
we'll
45:07
see.
45:08
Hopefully
45:09
coming
45:09
out
45:09
with
45:10
this
45:10
Episode,
45:10
hopefully,
45:11
you
45:11
know,
45:11
drawing
45:12
real
45:12
life
45:13
situations.
45:14
Hopefully
45:14
it
45:14
doesn't
45:15
turn
45:15
him
45:15
off
45:15
to
45:15
want
45:15
to
45:16
talk
45:16
to
45:16
us,
45:16
but,
45:17
but
45:17
we
45:18
will,
45:18
we'll
45:18
see.
45:19
Yeah,
45:19
that's
45:19
cool.
45:20
And
45:20
I
45:20
think
45:20
some
45:20
of
45:20
the
45:21
fiction
45:21
books
45:21
that
45:21
have
45:21
come
45:22
out,
45:22
sometimes
45:22
it
45:22
can
45:22
be
45:22
pretty
45:23
monotonous
45:23
and
45:23
it
45:24
gets
45:24
in
45:24
the
45:24
small
45:24
details.
45:25
And
45:25
this
45:25
for
45:26
me,
45:26
it's
45:27
not
45:27
as
45:27
action
45:28
based
45:28
and
45:28
it
45:28
can
45:29
sometimes
45:29
be
45:29
a
45:29
slog.
45:30
This
45:30
one,
45:30
because
45:31
it's
45:31
the
45:31
actual
45:31
history
45:32
of
45:33
the
45:33
universe
45:33
and
45:33
it's
45:34
canon.
45:34
I,
45:34
I
45:35
found
45:35
it
45:36
very,
45:37
very
45:37
enjoyable.
45:37
So
45:38
if
45:38
you're
45:38
a
45:38
Star
45:38
wars
45:38
fan
45:39
and
45:39
you're
45:39
into
45:40
the
45:40
minutia
45:40
and
45:41
the
45:41
details
45:41
of
45:41
a
45:42
larger
45:42
galaxy
45:42
like
45:43
Star
45:43
Wars,
45:44
I
45:44
highly
45:44
recommend
45:45
it.
45:45
Tj,
45:45
what
45:46
about
45:46
that
45:46
book?
45:47
Good.
45:48
Okay.
45:48
All
45:48
right.
45:49
So,
45:49
so
45:49
good
45:49
you
45:50
finished
45:50
the
45:50
book.
45:50
We
45:50
just,
45:51
we
45:51
were
45:51
going
45:51
to
45:51
transition
45:51
to
45:51
andor
45:52
we're
45:52
going
45:52
to
45:52
rewind
45:53
just
45:53
a
45:53
little
45:53
bit.
45:54
You're,
45:54
you're.
45:55
Did
45:55
you
45:55
learn
45:56
anything
45:56
new
45:57
or
45:57
what
45:58
was
45:58
it
45:58
about
45:58
that
45:59
book
45:59
that,
46:00
that
46:00
you
46:00
enjoyed?
46:01
Because
46:01
you
46:01
just,
46:01
you
46:01
just
46:01
said,
46:01
you
46:02
honorably
46:02
said
46:02
so
46:03
good.
46:03
What
46:03
was
46:03
there?
46:04
So
46:04
good.
46:04
The,
46:05
the
46:06
style
46:06
of
46:06
writing
46:08
I
46:08
think
46:08
is
46:08
so
46:08
special
46:09
for.
46:10
It's
46:11
something
46:11
I've
46:11
always
46:11
loved
46:12
when
46:12
like
46:12
they
46:12
put
46:12
the
46:12
little
46:12
blurb
46:13
in
46:13
there
46:13
for
46:13
from
46:13
like
46:14
an
46:14
in
46:15
world
46:15
author.
46:16
That's
46:16
something
46:16
that's
46:16
so
46:17
special
46:17
to
46:17
me
46:17
and
46:17
the
46:17
entire
46:18
book
46:18
being
46:18
formatted
46:19
like.
46:19
Okay.
46:19
Yeah,
46:20
I
46:20
love
46:20
it.
46:20
It's
46:21
also
46:21
like
46:22
way,
46:23
way
46:23
darker
46:24
than
46:24
I
46:24
thought
46:24
it
46:24
was
46:24
going
46:25
to
46:25
be.
46:27
So
46:27
like,
46:28
it
46:28
was
46:29
fun
46:29
to
46:29
read.
46:29
I
46:29
read
46:30
it
46:30
all
46:30
yesterday,
46:31
by
46:31
the
46:31
way.
46:32
Yeah,
46:33
he's
46:33
a
46:33
fast
46:33
writer.
46:34
He
46:34
said,
46:34
well,
46:35
but
46:35
I
46:36
wasn't,
46:36
I
46:36
wasn't
46:37
expecting
46:37
it
46:37
to
46:37
be
46:37
like
46:37
difficult.
46:38
You
46:38
got
46:38
to
46:38
go
46:38
watch
46:39
some
46:39
Rugrats
46:40
after
46:40
that.
46:41
Right.
46:43
But
46:44
I
46:44
was
46:44
really
46:45
astounded.
46:46
Great
46:46
writing
46:46
style.
46:47
I
46:48
love
46:49
getting
46:49
like
46:49
the
46:49
background
46:50
info,
46:51
what
46:51
this
46:51
looks
46:51
like
46:52
to
46:52
people,
46:53
you
46:53
know,
46:53
in
46:54
universe,
46:54
like
46:55
to
46:55
someone
46:56
that
46:56
just
46:56
lives
46:57
on
46:57
Coruscant.
46:58
Emperor
46:59
Palpatine
46:59
is
47:00
just
47:00
a
47:01
politician
47:01
who
47:02
survived
47:02
his
47:02
assassination
47:03
attempt,
47:04
you
47:04
know.
47:04
Right.
47:05
Like
47:06
to
47:06
them
47:06
he's
47:06
not
47:07
the
47:07
emperor.
47:07
He'S
47:08
not
47:09
Darth
47:09
Sidious.
47:10
Darth
47:10
Sidious.
47:12
But
47:13
yeah,
47:13
I
47:13
was
47:13
pretty
47:14
blown
47:14
away.
47:15
That's
47:15
always
47:16
been
47:16
one
47:16
of
47:16
my
47:16
favorite
47:16
things
47:17
to
47:17
see
47:17
in
47:18
games
47:18
is
47:18
the
47:19
books
47:19
that
47:19
people
47:19
are
47:19
writing
47:20
in
47:20
the
47:20
universe
47:20
about
47:20
events
47:21
that
47:21
are
47:21
happening.
47:22
So
47:23
Dr.
47:23
Kenshaw,
47:25
phenomenal
47:26
author.
47:27
I
47:27
hope
47:27
he
47:27
does
47:27
more.
48:42
Yeah,
48:42
I
48:43
think
48:43
that's
48:44
something
48:44
we
48:44
didn't
48:44
bring
48:44
out
48:44
in
48:45
our
48:45
previous
48:45
conversation
48:45
is
48:46
the
48:46
style
48:46
of
48:46
writing.
48:47
And
48:47
I
48:48
think
48:48
you're
48:48
right.
48:48
Someone
48:49
in
48:49
the
48:49
universe
48:50
talking
48:50
about,
48:50
oh,
48:51
we,
48:52
we
48:52
found
48:52
this
48:53
information
48:53
about
48:54
Darth
48:54
Vader
48:55
as
48:55
we
48:55
were
48:55
excavating
48:56
exegol
48:57
and
48:58
and
48:58
found
48:58
some
48:58
of
48:58
those
48:59
that
48:59
we
48:59
were
48:59
like,
48:59
oh,
49:00
okay.
49:00
So
49:01
you're
49:01
reading
49:01
it
49:01
from
49:02
a
49:02
point
49:02
of
49:02
view
49:02
of
49:02
someone
49:03
who's
49:03
in
49:03
the
49:03
universe
49:04
doing
49:05
their
49:05
research
49:05
and
49:06
digging
49:06
things
49:06
up.
49:06
Post
49:07
all
49:07
these
49:07
things
49:07
that
49:08
had
49:08
happened,
49:09
I
49:09
think
49:09
is
49:09
pretty,
49:10
pretty
49:10
phenomenal
49:11
way
49:11
of
49:11
doing.
49:12
I
49:12
like
49:12
that
49:12
style
49:13
too.
49:13
And
49:13
I
49:14
was
49:14
like,
49:14
I
49:14
know
49:14
who
49:14
Darth
49:14
Vader
49:15
is.
49:15
I
49:15
know
49:16
who
49:16
Anakin
49:16
Skywalker
49:17
is.
49:17
I've
49:17
seen
49:17
his
49:18
story.
49:18
I've
49:18
seen
49:18
the
49:18
rise
49:19
and
49:19
fall
49:19
and
49:19
rise
49:19
again
49:20
of
49:20
Anakin
49:21
Skywalker.
49:22
But
49:22
if
49:22
you're
49:22
just
49:23
trying
49:23
to.
49:23
In
49:23
the
49:23
universe,
49:24
trying
49:24
to
49:24
investigate
49:25
what
49:25
that
49:26
looks
49:26
like
49:26
and
49:26
who
49:26
these
49:26
people
49:27
are
49:27
and
49:27
where
49:27
you're
49:28
finding
49:28
your
49:28
sources
49:29
was
49:30
another
49:30
aspect
49:30
of
49:31
the
49:31
book
49:31
that
49:31
I
49:31
really,
49:31
really
49:32
liked.
49:32
That's
49:32
a
49:32
good
49:32
point.
49:33
Very
49:33
good.
49:33
Yeah.
49:34
Yeah.
49:34
I
49:34
think
49:34
just
49:34
conceptually
49:35
it
49:35
was
49:35
a
49:35
great
49:36
idea
49:36
to,
49:37
you
49:37
know,
49:38
read
49:38
the
49:39
Rise
49:39
and
49:39
Fall
49:39
of
49:39
the
49:39
British
49:40
Empire
49:40
and
49:40
then
49:40
think,
49:41
what
49:41
if
49:42
it
49:42
was
49:42
Star
49:42
Wars?
49:44
Makes
49:44
it
49:44
better.
49:45
Yeah,
49:45
nice.
49:45
That's.
49:46
What
49:46
if
49:46
it
49:46
was
49:46
Star
49:46
Wars
49:47
Wars?
49:47
Way
49:47
better.
49:48
What
49:48
if
49:48
it
49:48
was
49:48
Star
49:48
wars
49:50
history?
49:51
Yeah.
49:51
What
49:51
if
49:52
America
49:52
was
49:52
Star
49:53
Wars?
49:54
What
49:54
if
49:55
what?
49:55
Huh?
49:55
Way
49:55
better.
49:56
What
49:56
if.
49:56
What
49:57
if
49:58
Coco?
49:58
I
49:58
mean
49:59
there's
49:59
a
49:59
happy
49:59
ending.
50:00
Could
50:00
be.
50:00
Could
50:01
be.
50:01
We
50:01
have
50:02
a,
50:02
we
50:02
hope
50:03
a.
50:03
A
50:04
new
50:04
order
50:04
or
50:04
first
50:05
order
50:05
doesn't.
50:06
Doesn't
50:06
arise
50:06
out
50:06
of
50:06
the
50:06
ashes
50:07
of,
50:07
of
50:07
Empire.
50:10
Yeah.
50:10
This
50:10
all
50:10
reading
50:11
counts,
50:11
tj.
50:12
The
50:12
fact
50:12
that
50:12
you
50:13
read
50:13
this
50:13
book
50:13
in
50:13
one
50:13
second
50:14
sitting.
50:15
Kudos.
50:15
Kudos,
50:16
my
50:16
man.
50:16
Yeah,
50:17
it
50:17
was
50:17
difficult.
50:18
I
50:18
got
50:18
home
50:18
from
50:18
work
50:19
and
50:19
I
50:19
just
50:20
didn't
50:20
do
50:20
anything
50:21
else.
50:21
I
50:21
just
50:21
read
50:21
the
50:22
book.
50:22
I
50:22
got
50:22
a
50:23
little
50:23
in
50:23
over
50:23
my
50:24
head
50:24
to
50:24
be
50:24
honest.
50:25
But
50:26
you
50:26
couldn't
50:26
put
50:26
it
50:26
down.
50:27
There
50:27
you
50:27
go.
50:27
That's
50:27
a
50:27
recommendation.
50:28
Yeah.
50:29
All
50:29
right,
50:29
I'm
50:29
definitely
50:30
going
50:30
to
50:30
go
50:30
back
50:30
and
50:30
read
50:30
it
50:31
slower,
50:31
but.
50:32
Nice.
50:33
Nice.
50:34
All
50:34
right,
50:34
let's
50:34
talk
50:35
about
50:35
talk
50:35
about
50:35
Andor.
50:36
I.
50:37
When
50:37
they
50:38
first
50:38
announced
50:38
Andor
50:39
season
50:40
one,
50:40
it
50:40
was
50:40
definitely
50:41
a
50:41
surprise
50:43
that
50:44
they
50:44
were
50:44
going
50:44
to
50:44
focus
50:45
on
50:45
this.
50:45
A
50:45
pretty
50:45
prequel
50:46
to
50:46
a
50:46
prequel
50:47
and,
50:47
and
50:47
really
50:48
focus
50:48
on
50:48
a
50:48
character.
50:49
But
50:49
for
50:49
me,
50:50
this
50:50
series,
50:51
you
50:51
know,
50:52
I
50:52
again,
50:52
I
50:53
love,
50:54
I
50:54
love
50:55
the
50:55
space
50:55
wizards
50:56
and
50:56
the
50:56
big
50:56
battles
50:57
and
50:57
the
50:57
laser
50:57
swords,
50:58
but
50:59
these
50:59
are
50:59
the,
50:59
the
51:00
small
51:00
choices
51:02
the
51:02
that
51:03
what
51:03
would
51:03
you
51:04
would
51:04
think
51:04
unassuming
51:06
relationships
51:07
that
51:07
don't
51:07
have
51:07
a
51:08
big
51:08
impact
51:09
that
51:09
really
51:09
do
51:10
make
51:10
a
51:10
big
51:10
difference
51:11
in
51:11
the
51:11
grand
51:11
scale
51:12
of
51:12
the
51:13
fall
51:13
of
51:13
the
51:13
Empire.
51:14
And
51:14
that
51:15
was
51:15
intriguing
51:15
to
51:16
me
51:16
the
51:16
way
51:16
this
51:17
was
51:17
wr.
51:17
Way
51:18
it
51:18
was
51:18
directed.
51:18
You
51:18
can
51:18
hang
51:19
on
51:19
scenes.
51:19
The,
51:20
the
51:20
slow
51:21
roll,
51:21
the
51:21
taking
51:21
time
51:22
and
51:22
patience
51:23
with
51:23
these
51:23
people
51:24
across
51:24
their
51:25
stories
51:26
is
51:26
absolutely
51:28
brilliant.
51:28
And.
51:29
And
51:30
there.
51:30
There
51:30
are
51:30
parts
51:31
when
51:31
it
51:31
did
51:31
get
51:32
pretty
51:32
dark.
51:32
There
51:32
are
51:32
times
51:33
when
51:33
I
51:33
like
51:33
Star
51:33
wars
51:33
supposed
51:34
to
51:34
be
51:34
fun
51:34
as
51:34
fantasies
51:35
for
51:35
kids.
51:35
This
51:36
is
51:36
necessary
51:37
kids
51:37
show.
51:38
There
51:38
are
51:38
times
51:39
when
51:39
I
51:39
kind
51:39
of
51:39
miss
51:39
that
51:39
aspect
51:40
of
51:40
Star
51:40
wars,
51:40
but
51:41
I
51:41
think
51:41
this
51:41
does
51:42
have
51:42
a
51:42
place
51:43
in.
51:43
In
51:44
Star
51:44
wars
51:44
canon,
51:45
Star
51:45
wars
51:45
lore,
51:45
just
51:46
as
51:46
much
51:46
as
51:46
this
51:47
history
51:47
book
51:47
of
51:47
the
51:47
rise
51:48
and
51:48
fall
51:48
of
51:48
the
51:48
Galactic
51:49
Empire.
51:49
Friends
51:50
take
51:50
away.
51:50
I'm
51:50
gonna
51:50
rest
51:51
my
51:51
voice
51:51
just
51:51
a
51:51
second
51:52
and
51:52
go
51:52
get
51:52
some
51:52
more
51:53
water
51:53
while
51:53
you
51:53
guys
51:55
gush
51:55
over
51:55
Andor.
51:56
Yeah.
51:58
If
51:58
you
51:58
guys
51:58
want
51:58
to
51:58
go
51:58
ahead
51:59
andor
52:00
me.
52:02
Right.
52:02
Andor.
52:03
Man,
52:03
that's.
52:03
That's
52:03
the.
52:04
That's
52:04
the
52:04
phrase.
52:05
It's.
52:06
Andor
52:06
is
52:06
so
52:07
special
52:07
because
52:08
it
52:08
really
52:08
feels
52:09
like
52:10
outside
52:10
of
52:11
like
52:11
Rogue
52:11
One,
52:12
this
52:13
is
52:13
one
52:13
of
52:13
the
52:13
only
52:14
times
52:14
that,
52:14
you
52:15
know,
52:15
LucasArts
52:16
or
52:16
Disney
52:17
is
52:18
catered
52:18
to
52:19
the
52:19
adult
52:19
fans
52:20
of
52:20
Star
52:20
wars
52:20
more.
52:22
And
52:22
it
52:22
really
52:23
shows.
52:24
I
52:24
would
52:25
say
52:25
this
52:25
is
52:25
probably
52:25
the
52:26
second
52:26
best
52:26
Star
52:27
wars
52:27
show
52:28
because
52:28
the
52:28
Clone
52:28
wars
52:29
obviously
52:30
can't
52:31
point.
52:31
Good
52:31
point.
52:32
But
52:33
Andor
52:34
is
52:34
one
52:34
of
52:34
those
52:34
things
52:34
like,
52:35
wow,
52:35
this
52:35
is.
52:35
This
52:35
is
52:35
like
52:36
real
52:36
television.
52:36
I'm
52:37
glad
52:37
that
52:37
I'm
52:38
alive
52:39
to
52:39
first
52:39
experience
52:40
Star
52:40
wars
52:40
and
52:41
then
52:41
to
52:42
experience
52:42
and.
52:43
Or
52:43
like,
52:44
what
52:44
came
52:44
of
52:45
it.
52:45
Is
52:45
it
52:46
like
52:46
what
52:46
he
52:46
was
52:47
able
52:47
to.
52:48
What
52:48
he.
52:48
Well,
52:49
the
52:50
what.
52:51
What
52:52
they
52:52
were
52:52
able
52:52
to.
52:53
To.
52:53
To
52:54
get
52:54
out
52:54
of
52:54
Star
52:54
wars
52:55
and
52:55
to
52:56
basically
52:56
trick
52:56
the
52:56
fandom
52:57
and
52:57
to
52:58
not
52:58
hate
52:58
it.
52:59
It's.
53:00
They
53:00
did
53:01
the
53:01
perfect.
53:01
They.
53:02
They
53:03
did
53:03
the
53:03
perfect
53:03
trick.
53:04
Like,
53:04
it.
53:05
It's
53:05
amazing.
53:06
Sure,
53:06
it
53:07
was
53:07
a
53:07
little
53:07
darker,
53:07
like
53:08
what
53:08
Will
53:08
said.
53:09
It's
53:09
not
53:09
your
53:10
happy,
53:11
go
53:11
lucky,
53:14
good
53:14
guys,
53:15
bad
53:15
guys
53:15
type
53:15
of
53:15
deal,
53:16
but
53:16
it.
53:17
It
53:17
reflects
53:18
a
53:18
world
53:18
that
53:18
us
53:19
adults
53:20
see
53:20
every
53:21
day.
53:21
And
53:21
it's
53:22
refreshing
53:22
to
53:22
see
53:22
it
53:23
in
53:23
Star
53:23
Wars.
53:23
Sometimes
53:24
it's
53:24
not
53:24
complete
53:24
escapism,
53:26
and
53:26
when
53:26
it's.
53:26
And
53:27
when
53:27
it's
53:27
done
53:27
well,
53:29
this
53:30
is
53:30
the
53:30
first
53:30
time
53:31
that
53:31
we've
53:31
seen
53:31
this.
53:33
Growing
53:33
up
53:33
in
53:33
Star
53:34
Wars,
53:34
I've
53:34
always
53:35
loved
53:35
Star
53:36
wars,
53:36
but
53:36
like,
53:36
other
53:37
things.
53:38
And
53:38
there
53:38
were
53:39
other
53:39
things
53:39
that
53:40
were
53:40
good,
53:40
but
53:40
they
53:41
weren't
53:41
Star
53:41
Wars.
53:42
But
53:42
now
53:42
it's
53:43
like,
53:43
this
53:43
is
53:43
good
53:44
and
53:44
it's
53:44
Star
53:44
Wars.
53:45
I
53:45
was
53:45
like,
53:45
yes.
53:46
Like,
53:46
thank
53:47
you
53:47
very
53:47
much
53:48
for
53:48
this.
53:49
Yeah.
53:50
It
53:50
really
53:50
feels
53:51
like,
53:51
like
53:51
this
53:51
is.
53:52
This
53:52
is
53:52
something
53:52
that
53:52
could
53:53
have
53:53
come
53:53
out
53:53
like,
53:53
prime
53:53
HBO.
53:55
Yeah.
53:55
Back
53:55
in
53:56
the
53:56
90s.
53:57
Like
53:57
90s
53:58
HBO.
53:58
This
53:58
could
53:59
have
53:59
been
53:59
Kids
53:59
Taylor
54:00
for
54:00
sure.
54:00
Yeah.
54:01
Mark,
54:01
what
54:01
do
54:02
you
54:02
think?
54:02
I've
54:02
never
54:03
heard
54:03
you
54:03
talk
54:03
about
54:03
Antwer.
54:04
Yeah.
54:05
It's
54:05
refreshing
54:05
to
54:05
have
54:06
the
54:06
grittiness
54:06
of
54:06
it.
54:07
Like
54:07
you
54:07
guys
54:07
were
54:07
saying,
54:08
it's
54:08
Star
54:08
wars
54:08
for
54:08
adults.
54:10
I
54:10
was
54:10
talking
54:10
to
54:10
one
54:10
of
54:10
my
54:11
friends
54:11
and
54:11
that's
54:12
the
54:12
way
54:12
he
54:12
described
54:12
it.
54:15
It's
54:15
nice
54:15
to
54:15
see
54:15
these
54:16
themes
54:16
outside
54:16
of
54:18
the
54:18
original
54:19
Star
54:19
Wars
54:21
A
54:21
New
54:21
Hope
54:22
and
54:22
those
54:22
three
54:23
and
54:23
then
54:23
the
54:23
prequels.
54:25
There
54:25
was
54:25
a
54:26
lot
54:26
of
54:26
like
54:27
camp
54:27
to
54:27
them.
54:28
There
54:28
was
54:28
a
54:28
lot
54:28
of
54:28
campiness
54:29
to
54:29
them
54:29
and
54:29
there
54:29
was
54:30
a
54:30
lot
54:30
of
54:30
where
54:31
it
54:31
was.
54:31
It
54:31
was
54:31
a
54:31
fun
54:32
adventure
54:32
to
54:32
go
54:32
with
54:33
these
54:33
characters,
54:33
to
54:34
go
54:34
along
54:34
with
54:34
them.
54:35
It
54:36
just
54:36
didn't,
54:36
it
54:37
almost
54:37
didn't
54:37
take
54:38
itself
54:38
seriously
54:39
in
54:39
certain
54:39
parts
54:40
of
54:40
the
54:40
story.
54:41
Of
54:41
course,
54:41
when
54:42
you
54:42
get
54:42
to
54:42
like
54:42
episode
54:43
three,
54:43
it
54:43
gets
54:44
a
54:44
little
54:44
bit
54:44
more
54:44
darker
54:45
with
54:45
the
54:45
transition
54:46
of
54:46
the,
54:47
you
54:47
know,
54:48
into
54:48
Darth
54:48
Vader
54:49
and
54:49
into
54:49
the
54:49
tyrannical
54:50
government.
54:52
But,
54:53
but
54:53
yeah,
54:54
there's
54:54
a
54:54
lot
54:54
of
54:54
that
54:54
and
54:55
especially
54:55
even
54:55
like
54:55
Rogue
54:56
One.
54:56
They
54:56
even
54:56
carry
54:56
some
54:57
of
54:57
that
54:57
in
54:57
there
54:57
with
54:57
like
54:58
Darth
54:58
Vader's
54:59
line
54:59
of
55:00
don't
55:00
choke
55:00
on
55:00
your
55:01
own
55:01
aspirations.
55:02
But
55:03
then
55:03
andor
55:03
yeah,
55:03
it
55:03
takes
55:04
it
55:04
a
55:04
completely
55:04
different
55:04
direction
55:05
and
55:06
it's
55:06
dark,
55:07
it's
55:07
gritty.
55:07
It
55:08
kind
55:08
of
55:08
makes
55:08
you
55:08
question
55:08
like,
55:09
is
55:10
this
55:10
Star
55:10
wars
55:10
still?
55:12
And
55:12
so
55:13
I
55:14
liked
55:14
it.
55:14
I
55:15
thought
55:15
it
55:15
was
55:15
really
55:15
refreshing.
55:16
I'm
55:16
probably
55:16
going
55:16
to
55:16
watch
55:16
it
55:17
again,
55:19
especially
55:19
since
55:19
I'm
55:19
going
55:19
to
55:19
be
55:19
coming
55:20
up,
55:20
you
55:20
know,
55:20
my
55:20
own
55:20
little
55:21
episode
55:21
on
55:22
my
55:22
channel
55:22
just
55:22
to
55:24
get
55:24
my,
55:25
my
55:25
story
55:25
right
55:25
and
55:26
know
55:27
what
55:27
I'm
55:27
talking
55:27
about.
55:27
And
55:28
even
55:28
just
55:28
for
55:29
the
55:29
love
55:29
of
55:29
the
55:29
show
55:29
too.
55:30
The
55:30
show
55:30
is
55:30
just,
55:31
it
55:31
was
55:31
a,
55:32
it
55:32
was
55:32
a
55:33
good,
55:33
good
55:33
thing
55:33
to
55:33
watch.
55:34
Like,
55:34
I
55:34
just
55:34
really
55:35
enjoyed
55:35
it.
55:35
So.
55:37
And
55:37
they
55:37
mentioned
55:37
that,
55:38
you
55:39
know,
55:39
I
55:39
know
55:39
the
55:39
pre
55:39
press
55:41
before
55:41
this
55:41
came
55:42
out,
55:42
they
55:42
were
55:42
like,
55:42
you
55:42
know,
55:42
you're
55:43
going
55:43
to
55:43
be
55:43
able
55:43
to
55:43
like
55:43
finish
55:44
season
55:45
two
55:45
and
55:45
jump
55:46
right
55:46
into
55:46
Rogue
55:46
One
55:47
and,
55:48
and
55:48
see
55:48
in
55:48
a
55:48
different
55:49
light.
55:49
And,
55:49
and
55:50
I
55:50
def
55:50
that
55:50
I
55:51
did
55:51
that.
55:51
I
55:52
almost
55:52
stayed
55:52
up
55:52
to
55:53
like
55:53
three
55:53
in
55:53
the
55:53
morning
55:53
watching
55:54
Rogue
55:54
One.
55:54
But
55:56
it
55:56
did
55:56
shed
55:56
some
55:57
different
55:57
light.
55:57
But
55:57
I
55:57
did
55:57
notice
55:58
that
55:59
Rogue
55:59
One
55:59
is,
56:00
is
56:01
definitely
56:01
a
56:01
faster
56:02
paced
56:03
movie
56:03
and
56:03
show
56:05
than
56:05
Andor.
56:06
It
56:06
was
56:06
almost
56:06
like,
56:07
oh
56:07
wow,
56:07
we're
56:07
in
56:08
a
56:08
Star
56:08
wars
56:08
movie
56:08
now.
56:08
Yeah,
56:09
they're
56:09
moving
56:09
from
56:09
planet
56:10
to
56:10
planet.
56:10
They're
56:10
not
56:10
hanging
56:10
on
56:11
conversations
56:12
and
56:13
relationships
56:13
as
56:14
much
56:14
as
56:14
they
56:14
did
56:14
in
56:15
One
56:15
and
56:15
Two.
56:16
But
56:16
that's
56:16
fine.
56:16
It
56:17
didn't
56:17
need
56:17
to
56:17
be.
56:17
It's
56:17
a
56:17
Star
56:17
wars
56:17
movie.
56:18
It
56:18
was
56:18
a
56:18
popcorn
56:19
movie
56:19
in
56:20
the
56:20
theaters.
56:20
You're
56:21
not
56:21
going
56:21
to
56:21
hang
56:21
on
56:21
that.
56:22
But
56:23
yeah,
56:23
that
56:24
was
56:24
a
56:24
little
56:24
bit
56:24
of
56:24
a
56:24
transition
56:25
for
56:25
me.
56:25
But
56:26
it
56:26
was
56:26
worth
56:26
it.
56:26
It
56:27
did.
56:28
And
56:28
I
56:28
will
56:28
say
56:29
that
56:29
as
56:30
of
56:30
course.
56:30
I
56:30
love
56:30
Han
56:30
Solo.
56:31
I
56:31
love
56:31
Obiwan
56:31
Kenobi.
56:32
I
56:32
love
56:32
Luke
56:32
Skywalker.
56:33
I
56:33
have
56:33
favorite
56:33
characters,
56:34
but
56:34
now,
56:34
like
56:34
Andor
56:35
and
56:35
Mon
56:36
Mosma
56:36
and.
56:37
And
56:37
Clea
56:38
are
56:38
now
56:39
some
56:39
of
56:39
my
56:39
favorite
56:39
characters
56:40
ever
56:41
in
56:41
Star
56:41
wars
56:42
because
56:42
of
56:42
how
56:42
they
56:43
were
56:43
written
56:43
and
56:44
how
56:44
they
56:44
were
56:44
portrayed
56:45
and
56:45
what
56:45
they
56:46
did
56:46
to.
56:47
To
56:47
lead
56:47
to
56:48
the
56:48
Death
56:48
Star
56:49
being
56:49
blown
56:49
up.
56:50
Man,
56:51
that
56:51
made
56:52
it
56:52
all
56:52
worth
56:52
it.
56:52
Yeah,
56:53
yeah,
56:54
yeah.
56:55
I've.
56:55
I've
56:56
actually.
56:56
I've
56:56
got
56:56
a
56:57
friend,
56:57
he's
56:57
a
56:57
small
56:58
content
56:58
creator
56:59
named
56:59
Ridiculous
56:59
Ties
57:00
if
57:00
you
57:00
want
57:01
to
57:01
go
57:01
check
57:01
him
57:01
out.
57:01
And
57:02
he
57:02
does
57:02
most.
57:03
Mostly,
57:03
like,
57:03
you
57:04
know,
57:04
for
57:04
younger
57:04
people,
57:05
but.
57:05
Because
57:06
he's
57:06
young.
57:06
But
57:06
he's
57:07
going
57:07
through
57:07
Star
57:07
wars
57:07
right
57:08
now
57:08
for
57:08
the
57:08
first
57:08
time.
57:09
First
57:10
time
57:11
he
57:12
started.
57:12
He
57:13
never
57:13
saw
57:13
it.
57:14
Never
57:15
saw
57:15
any
57:15
of
57:15
it.
57:15
How
57:15
old
57:15
is
57:16
he?
57:16
A
57:16
few
57:16
weeks
57:17
ago.
57:17
He's
57:17
20
57:18
or
57:18
he's
57:18
19.
57:19
Okay,
57:19
that
57:19
makes
57:19
sense.
57:20
Well,
57:21
yeah,
57:21
because
57:22
it's
57:22
right
57:23
when
57:23
episode
57:24
three
57:24
ended.
57:25
So
57:25
interesting.
57:26
He
57:26
grew
57:27
up
57:27
in
57:27
the
57:27
dark
57:27
times,
57:27
kind
57:28
of.
57:28
Yeah.
57:29
So
57:30
he
57:31
started.
57:31
Started
57:31
on
57:32
like,
57:33
April
57:34
28th,
57:35
something
57:35
like
57:35
that.
57:35
Yeah.
57:37
Finished
57:37
all
57:37
of
57:38
the
57:38
movies
57:38
before
57:38
Star
57:39
wars
57:39
day.
57:39
Good
57:39
for
57:40
him.
57:41
Except
57:42
Solo.
57:43
You
57:43
watched
57:43
Solo
57:44
on
57:44
Star
57:44
wars,
57:45
and
57:46
now
57:46
for
57:46
some
57:46
reason,
57:47
he
57:48
decided
57:48
to
57:48
binge
57:48
Andor.
57:50
And
57:50
so
57:50
he's
57:51
like,
57:51
I
57:52
just
57:52
can't
57:52
do
57:52
this.
57:53
I
57:53
can't
57:53
watch
57:54
all
57:54
of
57:54
this
57:54
at
57:54
once.
57:54
It's
57:55
heavy.
57:56
It's
57:56
a
57:56
lot.
57:56
And
57:57
it's,
57:57
you
57:58
know,
57:58
11
57:58
hours
57:58
a
57:59
season,
57:59
so
58:01
no
58:01
one
58:01
told
58:01
you
58:02
to
58:02
binge
58:02
it.
58:04
Plus,
58:05
yeah.
58:06
No.
58:06
No
58:06
one
58:07
said,
58:07
you
58:07
should
58:07
watch
58:07
all
58:07
of
58:08
this
58:08
at
58:08
the
58:08
same
58:08
time.
58:08
You're
58:09
insane.
58:10
It's.
58:10
It's
58:11
meant
58:11
to
58:11
sit
58:12
with
58:12
you
58:12
for.
58:13
A
58:13
week,
58:14
talk
58:14
about
58:14
it,
58:16
fight
58:16
over,
58:16
discuss
58:17
it.
58:17
Like,
58:18
no,
58:18
Lonnie's
58:18
dead.
58:19
Lonnie's
58:19
dead.
58:19
No,
58:19
he's
58:20
not.
58:21
I
58:22
mean,
58:22
it
58:22
gets
58:22
pretty
58:22
heavy,
58:22
especially
58:23
season
58:23
one.
58:24
I
58:24
mean,
58:25
at
58:25
some
58:25
level,
58:25
you
58:26
realize
58:26
that
58:26
throwing
58:26
a
58:26
wrongly
58:27
accused
58:27
man
58:27
into
58:28
an
58:28
offshore
58:28
mega
58:28
prison
58:29
where
58:29
there.
58:29
Where
58:30
no
58:30
one
58:30
leaves
58:30
is
58:31
literally
58:31
what
58:31
the
58:31
Empire
58:32
does.
58:32
So
58:34
it's
58:34
a
58:34
heavy
58:34
thing
58:35
to
58:35
take
58:35
in.
58:35
Yeah.
58:36
Yeah.
58:37
And
58:37
seeing
58:37
in
58:37
our
58:38
current
58:38
context,
58:39
deportations.
58:40
El
58:41
Salvador,
58:41
all
58:41
that.
58:41
Yeah,
58:42
yeah.
58:43
It
58:43
makes
58:43
a
58:44
difference.
58:46
I
58:46
agree.
58:47
I
58:47
think
58:48
the
58:48
way
58:48
they,
58:50
I
58:50
guess,
58:50
released
58:51
this
58:51
season
58:52
three
58:52
episode
58:53
story
58:53
arcs,
58:54
I
58:55
was
58:55
at
58:55
first
58:55
I
58:55
was
58:56
like,
58:56
I
58:56
remember
58:56
Evan,
58:56
I.
58:57
Talking
58:57
about
58:57
we
58:57
first
58:57
saw
58:57
the
58:58
trailer.
58:58
That
58:58
trailer's
58:59
a
58:59
little
58:59
different
58:59
now.
59:01
It
59:01
was
59:02
not
59:02
as
59:02
rock
59:02
and
59:02
roll
59:03
as.
59:03
As
59:03
they
59:04
presented
59:04
it
59:05
a
59:05
little
59:05
bit
59:05
and
59:05
switched
59:06
there.
59:06
But
59:06
I.
59:07
But
59:07
I
59:07
will
59:07
say
59:08
I
59:08
was
59:08
like,
59:08
oh,
59:08
cool,
59:08
we
59:09
get
59:09
a
59:09
Star
59:09
wars
59:09
movie
59:09
at
59:10
night.
59:10
But
59:10
then,
59:11
like,
59:12
I
59:12
couldn't
59:12
just
59:12
watch
59:13
one
59:13
episode
59:13
I
59:14
had
59:14
to
59:14
finish.
59:14
There
59:14
are
59:14
some
59:15
nights
59:15
I
59:15
was
59:15
12
59:16
o'
59:16
clock
59:16
in
59:16
the
59:16
morning
59:17
wrapping
59:17
these
59:17
things
59:18
up
59:18
after
59:18
the
59:19
whole
59:19
family's
59:19
gone
59:19
to
59:20
bed
59:20
and
59:20
we
59:20
finished
59:20
watch
59:20
we're
59:21
gonna
59:21
do
59:21
and
59:22
and
59:22
then
59:22
times
59:22
when
59:22
I've
59:23
fallen
59:23
as
59:23
bit
59:24
had
59:24
to
59:24
wake
59:24
up
59:24
early
59:25
to
59:25
do
59:25
it.
59:25
Evan
59:26
has
59:26
that
59:26
but
59:26
I
59:27
I
59:27
did
59:27
I
59:28
I
59:28
wonder
59:29
how
59:29
they're
59:29
still
59:29
playing
59:29
around.
59:30
They're
59:30
still
59:30
playing
59:31
around
59:31
with
59:31
how
59:31
they're
59:31
releasing
59:32
these
59:32
episodes.
59:32
But
59:32
I
59:33
I
59:33
like
59:33
those
59:33
story
59:34
arcs.
59:34
I
59:34
like
59:34
them
59:35
releasing
59:35
it
59:35
to
59:36
know
59:36
where
59:36
they
59:36
fell
59:37
in
59:37
Star
59:37
wars
59:37
history.
59:38
You
59:38
know
59:38
1
59:39
BBY
59:39
2
59:39
BBY
59:40
3.
59:40
BBY
59:41
one
59:41
year
59:41
later
59:42
one
59:42
year
59:42
later.
59:42
That
59:43
kind
59:43
of
59:43
stuff
59:44
really
59:44
rebuilding
59:45
a
59:45
lot.
59:46
I
59:46
I
59:47
man
59:47
I
59:47
I
59:48
really
59:48
as
59:48
a
59:49
original
59:49
Star
59:50
wars
59:50
fan
59:50
from
59:50
the
59:51
very
59:51
beginning
59:51
from
59:51
when
59:51
it
59:52
first
59:52
came
59:52
out,
59:53
I
59:53
I
59:53
I
59:53
really
59:55
particular
59:55
for
59:56
you
59:56
guys.
59:56
We'll
59:56
go
59:56
around
59:57
the
59:57
horn.
59:57
Is
59:57
there
59:57
a
59:57
particular
59:59
like
59:59
scene
1:00:00
or
1:00:00
relationship
1:00:02
that
1:00:02
that
1:00:02
stuck
1:00:03
out
1:00:03
to
1:00:03
you?
1:00:03
So
1:00:04
we
1:00:04
have
1:00:04
like
1:00:04
Andor
1:00:05
and
1:00:05
Bix,
1:00:05
Lutheran
1:00:06
Clay
1:00:08
and
1:00:08
her
1:00:09
relationship
1:00:09
to
1:00:09
the
1:00:09
Senate.
1:00:09
Her
1:00:10
daughter,
1:00:10
her
1:00:10
husband
1:00:11
today.
1:00:12
Then
1:00:12
you
1:00:13
have
1:00:13
Del
1:00:13
and,
1:00:13
and
1:00:14
Senta.
1:00:15
You
1:00:15
have
1:00:15
Deidre
1:00:15
and
1:00:15
Cyril.
1:00:16
Cyril.
1:00:18
Are
1:00:18
there
1:00:18
particular
1:00:19
relationships
1:00:20
that
1:00:21
that
1:00:22
were
1:00:23
you
1:00:23
took
1:00:24
to
1:00:24
heart
1:00:24
a
1:00:24
little
1:00:25
more
1:00:25
than
1:00:25
than
1:00:26
others?
1:00:26
Mark?
1:00:28
Yeah.
1:00:29
You
1:00:29
want
1:00:29
to
1:00:29
go
1:00:29
with
1:00:29
me
1:00:29
first?
1:00:30
Yeah.
1:00:31
I
1:00:31
mean
1:00:31
there's
1:00:31
so
1:00:32
many
1:00:32
good
1:00:32
things.
1:00:32
I
1:00:32
mean
1:00:32
everyone
1:00:32
that
1:00:33
you
1:00:33
mentioned,
1:00:33
all
1:00:33
the
1:00:33
relationships
1:00:34
especially
1:00:35
that
1:00:35
that
1:00:35
episode
1:00:36
going
1:00:37
into
1:00:38
like
1:00:39
the
1:00:39
imagery
1:00:39
you
1:00:39
have
1:00:39
on
1:00:40
the
1:00:40
screen
1:00:40
here
1:00:41
with
1:00:41
them
1:00:41
with
1:00:41
Clea
1:00:42
and
1:00:43
Luthan
1:00:45
them
1:00:45
being
1:00:45
you
1:00:46
know,
1:00:46
before
1:00:46
the
1:00:46
events
1:00:47
of
1:00:47
Andor
1:00:47
even
1:00:48
have
1:00:48
you
1:00:48
know
1:00:48
took
1:00:49
place
1:00:49
as
1:00:49
a
1:00:50
younger
1:00:50
selves
1:00:50
of
1:00:50
them
1:00:51
showing
1:00:51
that
1:00:52
relationship.
1:00:52
I
1:00:52
thought
1:00:52
that
1:00:53
was
1:00:53
really
1:00:53
beautifully
1:00:53
done
1:00:54
the
1:00:54
way
1:00:54
they
1:00:54
did
1:00:54
that.
1:00:56
Of
1:00:56
course
1:00:57
the
1:00:57
Gorman
1:00:57
massacre
1:00:58
stands
1:00:58
out
1:00:59
to
1:00:59
me
1:00:59
a
1:01:00
lot.
1:01:00
And
1:01:01
wow.
1:01:01
And
1:01:02
wow.
1:01:02
And
1:01:03
it
1:01:04
was,
1:01:04
it
1:01:04
was
1:01:04
super
1:01:05
powerful
1:01:05
hearing
1:01:05
about
1:01:05
that.
1:01:06
Especially
1:01:06
since
1:01:06
the
1:01:07
Gorman
1:01:07
massacre
1:01:08
was
1:01:08
actually
1:01:08
originally
1:01:08
cons.
1:01:09
The
1:01:10
conception
1:01:10
of
1:01:10
it
1:01:10
was
1:01:10
in
1:01:10
the
1:01:10
1990s
1:01:12
for
1:01:13
extended
1:01:13
storyline
1:01:14
and
1:01:15
also
1:01:15
with
1:01:16
like
1:01:16
role
1:01:16
playing
1:01:17
games
1:01:17
and
1:01:17
whatnot.
1:01:17
For
1:01:18
having
1:01:18
cut
1:01:19
for
1:01:19
sure,
1:01:20
deep
1:01:20
cut
1:01:20
for
1:01:20
sure.
1:01:21
And
1:01:22
to
1:01:22
actually
1:01:22
see
1:01:22
it
1:01:22
on
1:01:23
the
1:01:23
screen
1:01:23
was
1:01:24
amazing.
1:01:25
It
1:01:26
was
1:01:26
you
1:01:26
know,
1:01:26
sad
1:01:27
but
1:01:27
it
1:01:28
was,
1:01:28
it
1:01:28
was
1:01:28
like
1:01:29
just
1:01:29
one
1:01:30
of
1:01:30
those
1:01:30
things
1:01:30
that
1:01:30
Star
1:01:31
wars
1:01:31
lore
1:01:31
that
1:01:32
to
1:01:32
be
1:01:32
able
1:01:32
to
1:01:32
see
1:01:33
it
1:01:33
visually
1:01:34
was,
1:01:35
was
1:01:35
a
1:01:36
spectacle
1:01:37
and
1:01:38
honestly
1:01:38
it
1:01:38
struck
1:01:39
up
1:01:39
a
1:01:39
lot
1:01:39
of
1:01:41
knowledge
1:01:42
about,
1:01:42
you
1:01:42
know,
1:01:43
real
1:01:43
life,
1:01:43
our
1:01:44
reality
1:01:44
history.
1:01:45
You
1:01:45
look
1:01:45
at
1:01:46
things
1:01:46
like
1:01:46
Bloody
1:01:47
Sunday
1:01:47
day
1:01:48
where
1:01:48
in
1:01:48
the
1:01:49
civil
1:01:49
rights
1:01:49
movement
1:01:49
where
1:01:50
violence
1:01:51
was
1:01:51
done
1:01:51
unto
1:01:52
peaceful
1:01:53
protesters.
1:01:53
So
1:01:53
you
1:01:53
get
1:01:54
these
1:01:54
peaceful
1:01:54
protesters
1:01:56
where
1:01:56
you
1:01:56
know,
1:01:56
people
1:01:57
were
1:01:57
killed,
1:01:57
injured,
1:01:58
maimed
1:01:59
in
1:01:59
various
1:02:00
ways.
1:02:00
So
1:02:00
like
1:02:00
I
1:02:01
said
1:02:01
bloody
1:02:01
Bloody
1:02:02
Sunday.
1:02:02
You
1:02:03
got
1:02:03
Tiananmen
1:02:04
Square
1:02:05
in
1:02:05
China,
1:02:06
where,
1:02:07
you
1:02:07
know,
1:02:07
thousands
1:02:08
of
1:02:08
people
1:02:08
were.
1:02:09
Were
1:02:09
murdered
1:02:10
in
1:02:10
the
1:02:10
square
1:02:10
and
1:02:10
some
1:02:10
people
1:02:11
fought
1:02:11
back.
1:02:11
I
1:02:11
would
1:02:11
actually
1:02:12
say
1:02:12
that
1:02:12
would
1:02:12
probably
1:02:12
be
1:02:12
a
1:02:12
closer
1:02:13
representation
1:02:14
to.
1:02:17
And
1:02:17
even
1:02:17
just
1:02:18
like
1:02:18
the
1:02:18
Palestinian
1:02:19
Great
1:02:19
March
1:02:20
of
1:02:20
return
1:02:21
in
1:02:21
2018,
1:02:22
we
1:02:23
saw
1:02:24
a
1:02:24
great
1:02:24
deal
1:02:24
of
1:02:24
death
1:02:25
from
1:02:25
a
1:02:25
peaceful
1:02:26
march.
1:02:27
And
1:02:27
I
1:02:27
would
1:02:28
even
1:02:28
go
1:02:28
and
1:02:28
stretch
1:02:29
it
1:02:29
and
1:02:29
say
1:02:30
violence
1:02:30
against
1:02:30
peaceful
1:02:31
protesters
1:02:32
would
1:02:32
be
1:02:32
even
1:02:32
like
1:02:32
Trump
1:02:33
going
1:02:33
for,
1:02:33
like,
1:02:33
a
1:02:33
Bible
1:02:34
photo
1:02:34
op
1:02:35
back
1:02:35
in
1:02:36
2020.
1:02:36
So,
1:02:37
you
1:02:38
know,
1:02:38
it
1:02:38
definitely
1:02:39
rung
1:02:39
bells
1:02:40
a
1:02:40
lot
1:02:40
when
1:02:40
I.
1:02:40
When
1:02:41
I
1:02:41
was
1:02:41
watching
1:02:41
this.
1:02:42
Yeah.
1:02:43
And,
1:02:43
you
1:02:43
know,
1:02:43
even
1:02:44
like
1:02:45
Selma
1:02:45
and
1:02:46
the
1:02:46
march.
1:02:46
March
1:02:47
there,
1:02:47
There.
1:02:48
There
1:02:48
was
1:02:48
some
1:02:48
aspects
1:02:49
of
1:02:49
the
1:02:49
civil
1:02:50
rights
1:02:50
movement
1:02:50
where
1:02:50
they
1:02:51
knew
1:02:51
it'd
1:02:51
be
1:02:51
televised.
1:02:52
And
1:02:52
that.
1:02:53
That
1:02:53
scene,
1:02:54
dogs
1:02:54
and
1:02:55
hoses
1:02:55
being
1:02:56
released
1:02:57
on.
1:02:58
On
1:02:58
a
1:02:59
portion
1:02:59
of
1:02:59
the
1:02:59
American
1:02:59
population
1:03:00
would.
1:03:01
Would
1:03:02
move
1:03:02
people
1:03:03
and.
1:03:03
And
1:03:03
hopefully
1:03:04
bring
1:03:05
a
1:03:05
change
1:03:05
of
1:03:05
heart
1:03:05
to
1:03:06
a
1:03:06
lot
1:03:06
of
1:03:06
people
1:03:06
who,
1:03:07
you
1:03:07
know,
1:03:07
not
1:03:07
in
1:03:08
my
1:03:08
eyesight,
1:03:08
not
1:03:08
in
1:03:08
my
1:03:09
backyard,
1:03:09
so
1:03:09
I'm
1:03:09
not
1:03:09
going
1:03:10
to
1:03:10
worry
1:03:10
about
1:03:10
it.
1:03:10
Well,
1:03:10
when
1:03:11
you
1:03:11
see
1:03:11
that
1:03:11
on
1:03:11
tv,
1:03:11
it
1:03:11
makes
1:03:12
a
1:03:12
difference.
1:03:12
So
1:03:12
I
1:03:12
think
1:03:13
this.
1:03:13
The.
1:03:13
The
1:03:13
Gorman
1:03:14
massacre
1:03:14
massacre
1:03:15
pushed
1:03:16
Mon
1:03:16
Mothma
1:03:17
even
1:03:17
further
1:03:17
to
1:03:18
say,
1:03:18
I
1:03:18
need
1:03:18
to
1:03:18
make
1:03:18
this
1:03:19
speech.
1:03:19
I'm
1:03:19
gonna
1:03:20
make
1:03:20
this
1:03:20
speech
1:03:20
up
1:03:20
in
1:03:20
front.
1:03:21
What
1:03:21
a
1:03:21
powerful
1:03:21
speech
1:03:21
in
1:03:22
that
1:03:22
time.
1:03:22
And
1:03:22
then.
1:03:23
And
1:03:23
then.
1:03:23
Andor
1:03:24
coming
1:03:24
to
1:03:25
him,
1:03:25
coming
1:03:26
to
1:03:26
her
1:03:26
to.
1:03:27
To
1:03:27
get
1:03:27
her
1:03:27
to
1:03:27
safety.
1:03:28
The
1:03:28
Yavin
1:03:28
was.
1:03:29
Was
1:03:30
such
1:03:30
a
1:03:30
powerful.
1:03:31
I
1:03:31
knew
1:03:31
they
1:03:31
were
1:03:31
both
1:03:31
going
1:03:32
to
1:03:32
get
1:03:32
there.
1:03:32
I
1:03:33
knew
1:03:33
it.
1:03:33
I've
1:03:33
seen
1:03:33
Rogue
1:03:34
One.
1:03:34
I
1:03:34
know
1:03:34
that
1:03:35
she
1:03:35
shows
1:03:35
up
1:03:35
in
1:03:35
Return
1:03:35
of
1:03:36
the
1:03:36
Jedi.
1:03:36
I
1:03:36
know
1:03:36
she
1:03:37
survives.
1:03:37
But
1:03:37
I
1:03:37
was
1:03:37
on
1:03:38
the
1:03:38
edge
1:03:38
of
1:03:38
my
1:03:38
seat.
1:03:38
I
1:03:38
couldn't
1:03:39
breathe.
1:03:39
Like,
1:03:39
it.
1:03:40
It
1:03:40
was
1:03:40
absolutely
1:03:41
unbelievable.
1:03:42
And
1:03:43
so
1:03:43
I
1:03:43
think
1:03:43
you're
1:03:43
right.
1:03:43
Like,
1:03:44
this
1:03:44
particular
1:03:45
massacre
1:03:45
and,
1:03:46
you
1:03:46
know,
1:03:46
Stormtroopers
1:03:47
are.
1:03:48
Over
1:03:48
the
1:03:48
last
1:03:49
decade
1:03:49
or
1:03:49
so
1:03:49
have
1:03:49
been
1:03:50
kind
1:03:50
of
1:03:50
like
1:03:51
comedy
1:03:51
hit.
1:03:51
Pieces
1:03:52
of
1:03:52
like,
1:03:52
oh,
1:03:52
they
1:03:52
can't
1:03:53
hit
1:03:53
out
1:03:53
of
1:03:53
the
1:03:53
barn.
1:03:54
You're
1:03:54
like,
1:03:54
yeah,
1:03:55
you
1:03:55
know,
1:03:55
they're
1:03:55
not
1:03:56
as
1:03:56
missing.
1:03:56
But
1:03:56
this
1:03:57
particular
1:03:59
protest
1:03:59
and
1:03:59
this
1:04:00
massacre
1:04:01
brought
1:04:01
the
1:04:01
fear
1:04:01
of,
1:04:02
like,
1:04:02
oh,
1:04:02
we
1:04:02
know
1:04:03
what's
1:04:03
about
1:04:03
to
1:04:03
go
1:04:03
down.
1:04:04
Not
1:04:04
just
1:04:04
the
1:04:05
K2
1:04:05
droids,
1:04:06
but.
1:04:06
But,
1:04:06
like
1:04:07
the
1:04:07
snipers
1:04:08
and
1:04:08
the.
1:04:09
The
1:04:09
Stormtroopers,
1:04:09
it
1:04:10
was.
1:04:10
It
1:04:10
was
1:04:10
truly
1:04:10
menacing
1:04:11
and
1:04:11
terrifying.
1:04:13
From
1:04:13
the
1:04:13
way
1:04:13
it
1:04:13
was
1:04:14
shot
1:04:14
and
1:04:14
from
1:04:14
their
1:04:14
point
1:04:14
of
1:04:15
view,
1:04:15
I
1:04:15
agree
1:04:16
that
1:04:16
that
1:04:16
was
1:04:16
incredible.
1:04:17
And
1:04:17
the
1:04:18
impact
1:04:18
it
1:04:18
had
1:04:18
not
1:04:18
on
1:04:19
Andor,
1:04:19
because
1:04:20
he
1:04:20
was
1:04:20
there
1:04:20
with
1:04:20
it
1:04:20
and
1:04:20
witnessed
1:04:21
it,
1:04:21
but.
1:04:21
But
1:04:21
Deidre
1:04:22
and
1:04:22
Cyril,
1:04:23
like,
1:04:23
what
1:04:23
was
1:04:23
going
1:04:24
on
1:04:24
with
1:04:25
them.
1:04:25
And
1:04:25
you
1:04:25
see
1:04:26
her,
1:04:26
like,
1:04:26
literally
1:04:26
breaking
1:04:27
down
1:04:27
in
1:04:27
her
1:04:27
handshaking,
1:04:28
even
1:04:28
though
1:04:28
she's
1:04:29
an
1:04:29
Empire
1:04:29
loyalist.
1:04:30
You
1:04:31
see
1:04:31
what
1:04:31
it
1:04:31
did
1:04:31
to
1:04:32
her.
1:04:32
And
1:04:32
the
1:04:32
trauma
1:04:33
that
1:04:33
it.
1:04:33
That
1:04:33
it
1:04:33
brought
1:04:34
to
1:04:34
her.
1:04:35
Yeah.
1:04:35
You
1:04:35
can
1:04:35
pick
1:04:35
apart
1:04:36
why
1:04:36
she
1:04:36
was
1:04:36
having
1:04:36
the
1:04:36
trial,
1:04:37
but
1:04:37
I.
1:04:37
Yeah.
1:04:38
Absolutely
1:04:38
incredible.
1:04:40
Tj,
1:04:41
from
1:04:41
what
1:04:41
you've
1:04:41
seen
1:04:41
so
1:04:41
far,
1:04:42
is
1:04:42
there
1:04:42
a
1:04:42
particular
1:04:42
relationship
1:04:43
or
1:04:44
a
1:04:44
person
1:04:45
character
1:04:45
scene
1:04:45
that
1:04:46
stands
1:04:46
out
1:04:46
to
1:04:46
you
1:04:47
that
1:04:47
you
1:04:47
took
1:04:48
to
1:04:48
heart?
1:04:48
Yeah.
1:04:48
To
1:04:49
me,
1:04:49
it's
1:04:50
really
1:04:51
like,
1:04:51
early
1:04:51
Andor
1:04:53
Luthen
1:04:53
and
1:04:53
Cassian
1:04:54
meeting
1:04:54
for
1:04:54
the
1:04:55
first
1:04:55
time.
1:04:56
That's
1:04:56
the
1:04:56
spark.
1:04:57
And
1:04:57
to
1:04:57
me,
1:04:57
that's
1:04:58
so
1:04:58
special.
1:04:59
And
1:04:59
you
1:04:59
know
1:04:59
what
1:05:00
you're
1:05:00
about
1:05:00
talking
1:05:00
about,
1:05:00
like,
1:05:00
Mon
1:05:01
Mothma
1:05:01
and,
1:05:01
like,
1:05:02
the
1:05:02
tension
1:05:03
that
1:05:03
this
1:05:03
show
1:05:03
is
1:05:03
able
1:05:04
to
1:05:04
inject
1:05:04
into
1:05:05
every
1:05:05
episode
1:05:07
makes
1:05:07
no
1:05:08
sense.
1:05:11
It's
1:05:11
like.
1:05:12
It's
1:05:12
like
1:05:12
hoping
1:05:13
the
1:05:13
opposite
1:05:13
of
1:05:13
Rogue
1:05:14
One
1:05:15
because
1:05:15
now,
1:05:15
like,
1:05:15
we
1:05:16
know,
1:05:16
like,
1:05:17
oh,
1:05:17
well,
1:05:17
they
1:05:18
live.
1:05:18
This
1:05:18
is
1:05:18
awesome.
1:05:20
In
1:05:20
Rogue
1:05:20
One,
1:05:20
you're
1:05:20
watching,
1:05:21
you're
1:05:21
like,
1:05:21
oh,
1:05:21
man,
1:05:21
they're
1:05:22
all
1:05:22
gonna
1:05:22
die.
1:05:22
This
1:05:22
sucks.
1:05:23
Yeah.
1:05:23
And
1:05:23
in
1:05:24
Andor
1:05:24
look,
1:05:24
they're
1:05:24
gonna
1:05:25
live.
1:05:25
But
1:05:25
I
1:05:25
still
1:05:25
think
1:05:25
he's
1:05:26
gonna
1:05:26
die.
1:05:26
Like,
1:05:26
this
1:05:27
isn't
1:05:27
gonna.
1:05:27
Something
1:05:28
bad's
1:05:28
gonna
1:05:29
happen.
1:05:29
And
1:05:29
then
1:05:29
it's
1:05:30
like
1:05:30
B2.
1:05:30
B2.
1:05:31
So
1:05:31
giving
1:05:32
the
1:05:32
odds
1:05:32
of
1:05:33
survival.
1:05:34
Yeah,
1:05:34
yeah,
1:05:34
yeah,
1:05:34
yeah,
1:05:35
yeah,
1:05:35
yeah,
1:05:35
yeah.
1:05:36
It's
1:05:36
not.
1:05:37
Yeah,
1:05:38
yeah,
1:05:39
that
1:05:39
was
1:05:39
good.
1:05:40
Like,
1:05:40
I
1:05:40
think
1:05:40
I
1:05:40
know
1:05:40
the
1:05:40
odds,
1:05:41
actually.
1:05:41
Yeah.
1:05:41
And
1:05:42
the
1:05:42
little
1:05:42
breaths
1:05:43
of
1:05:43
hope
1:05:43
that
1:05:44
they
1:05:44
had
1:05:44
with.
1:05:45
With
1:05:45
K2
1:05:46
and
1:05:46
stuff
1:05:46
like
1:05:46
that,
1:05:47
that.
1:05:48
That
1:05:48
just
1:05:49
stood
1:05:49
out
1:05:49
for
1:05:49
me
1:05:49
too.
1:05:51
Yeah.
1:05:52
But
1:05:52
it.
1:05:53
To
1:05:53
me,
1:05:53
it's
1:05:53
that
1:05:53
it's
1:05:53
gassing
1:05:54
and
1:05:54
lo
1:05:54
Luthen
1:05:55
early
1:05:56
that
1:05:56
it's
1:05:56
so
1:05:57
exciting
1:05:57
to
1:05:57
me.
1:05:57
Like,
1:05:57
I'll
1:05:58
watch
1:05:58
them
1:05:58
meet.
1:05:59
Like,
1:05:59
you
1:06:00
know,
1:06:00
they're
1:06:00
like,
1:06:00
bringing
1:06:01
all
1:06:01
those
1:06:01
huge,
1:06:02
like,
1:06:02
ship
1:06:03
pieces
1:06:03
down
1:06:04
in
1:06:04
that
1:06:04
big
1:06:04
set
1:06:05
piece.
1:06:05
Oh,
1:06:06
yeah.
1:06:06
Yeah.
1:06:06
Show
1:06:07
so
1:06:07
good.
1:06:07
Show's
1:06:08
so
1:06:08
good,
1:06:08
Willie.
1:06:09
Tj,
1:06:10
As
1:06:11
I
1:06:11
get
1:06:11
to
1:06:11
the
1:06:11
last
1:06:12
episode
1:06:13
in
1:06:14
the
1:06:14
last
1:06:14
Toy
1:06:14
arc,
1:06:15
there's
1:06:15
some
1:06:16
pretty
1:06:16
incredible
1:06:16
luthen
1:06:17
moments
1:06:18
and
1:06:18
callbacks
1:06:18
to
1:06:19
the
1:06:19
season
1:06:19
one
1:06:20
that
1:06:20
I
1:06:20
think
1:06:20
it's.
1:06:21
As
1:06:21
Dietra
1:06:22
and
1:06:22
Lutheran.
1:06:22
Lutheran
1:06:23
meet
1:06:24
face
1:06:24
to
1:06:24
face.
1:06:25
There's
1:06:25
a
1:06:26
tense
1:06:26
moment
1:06:26
that
1:06:27
is
1:06:27
one
1:06:27
of
1:06:27
my
1:06:27
favorite
1:06:27
scenes
1:06:28
in
1:06:28
the
1:06:28
whole
1:06:29
show
1:06:29
and.
1:06:29
And
1:06:30
the
1:06:30
whole
1:06:30
thing
1:06:31
where
1:06:31
Lutheran,
1:06:31
Lutheran
1:06:32
says,
1:06:32
my
1:06:32
favorite
1:06:32
coat
1:06:33
is
1:06:33
like,
1:06:33
if
1:06:34
I
1:06:34
terrify
1:06:34
you,
1:06:34
there's
1:06:35
gonna
1:06:35
be
1:06:35
a
1:06:35
whole
1:06:35
galaxy
1:06:36
that
1:06:36
terrifies
1:06:36
you
1:06:36
because
1:06:37
of
1:06:37
this
1:06:37
rebellion
1:06:37
that's
1:06:38
growing.
1:06:38
I
1:06:38
was,
1:06:38
ah,
1:06:39
so
1:06:39
you
1:06:40
disgust
1:06:40
me.
1:06:41
There's
1:06:42
a
1:06:42
whole
1:06:42
galaxy
1:06:42
out
1:06:43
there
1:06:43
waiting
1:06:43
to
1:06:44
discuss
1:06:44
you.
1:06:44
I
1:06:45
was
1:06:46
like,
1:06:47
evan,
1:06:48
say
1:06:48
that
1:06:48
quote
1:06:48
again.
1:06:48
Say
1:06:49
that
1:06:49
quote
1:06:49
again.
1:06:49
Stay
1:06:50
it.
1:06:50
Say
1:06:50
it.
1:06:50
Say
1:06:50
it.
1:06:50
Say
1:06:51
that
1:06:51
quote
1:06:51
again.
1:06:52
Died
1:06:52
says,
1:06:53
you
1:06:53
disgust
1:06:54
me.
1:06:54
And
1:06:54
then
1:06:55
a
1:06:55
Lutheran
1:06:55
comes
1:06:56
back.
1:06:56
He
1:06:56
said,
1:06:56
there's
1:06:56
a
1:06:57
whole
1:06:57
galaxy
1:06:57
out
1:06:58
there
1:06:58
just
1:06:58
waiting
1:06:59
to
1:06:59
discuss
1:06:59
you.
1:07:02
Take
1:07:02
that.
1:07:02
You
1:07:02
piece
1:07:03
off.
1:07:06
So.
1:07:07
So
1:07:07
Good.
1:07:09
Yeah.
1:07:10
I,
1:07:10
I,
1:07:11
you
1:07:11
know,
1:07:11
in
1:07:12
this
1:07:12
show,
1:07:12
I
1:07:12
was
1:07:12
wondering
1:07:13
who's
1:07:13
gonna
1:07:13
live
1:07:13
and
1:07:14
who
1:07:14
was
1:07:14
gonna
1:07:14
die,
1:07:14
because
1:07:14
there
1:07:15
are
1:07:15
some
1:07:15
we
1:07:15
know
1:07:16
with
1:07:16
their
1:07:16
fate
1:07:16
in
1:07:17
Rogue
1:07:17
One,
1:07:17
but
1:07:17
we
1:07:17
didn't
1:07:18
know
1:07:18
if
1:07:18
they
1:07:18
would
1:07:18
survive
1:07:18
this
1:07:18
show
1:07:19
and
1:07:19
go
1:07:19
on
1:07:19
to
1:07:19
other
1:07:19
things.
1:07:20
I
1:07:20
think,
1:07:21
I
1:07:21
think
1:07:22
her
1:07:22
backstory
1:07:23
and
1:07:23
then
1:07:23
her,
1:07:24
like,
1:07:24
making
1:07:24
it
1:07:24
to
1:07:24
Yavin
1:07:26
makes
1:07:26
me
1:07:26
think,
1:07:26
like,
1:07:27
man,
1:07:28
she
1:07:28
could
1:07:29
show
1:07:29
up
1:07:29
somewhere
1:07:30
else.
1:07:31
And,
1:07:32
and
1:07:32
I
1:07:32
was
1:07:32
listening
1:07:32
to
1:07:33
another
1:07:33
podcast,
1:07:33
another
1:07:33
favorite
1:07:34
podcast,
1:07:34
Rebel
1:07:34
Force
1:07:35
Radio.
1:07:35
Shout
1:07:35
Out.
1:07:35
Rebel
1:07:35
Force
1:07:36
Radio.
1:07:36
There
1:07:36
was
1:07:38
to,
1:07:38
to,
1:07:39
to
1:07:39
Blake,
1:07:39
who
1:07:40
print
1:07:40
us
1:07:40
into
1:07:41
the
1:07:41
idea
1:07:41
that
1:07:41
maybe
1:07:42
there
1:07:42
could
1:07:42
be
1:07:42
a
1:07:42
spin
1:07:42
off
1:07:43
show
1:07:43
where
1:07:44
Claire
1:07:44
is
1:07:44
the
1:07:45
one
1:07:45
who,
1:07:46
who
1:07:46
is
1:07:46
the
1:07:46
one
1:07:46
who
1:07:47
starts
1:07:48
or
1:07:48
finds
1:07:48
the
1:07:48
rebel
1:07:49
bait
1:07:49
or
1:07:49
starts
1:07:50
shaping
1:07:50
the
1:07:50
rebel
1:07:51
base
1:07:51
on
1:07:51
Hoth.
1:07:52
And
1:07:52
I
1:07:52
was
1:07:52
like,
1:07:52
come
1:07:52
on
1:07:54
that
1:07:54
show,
1:07:55
they
1:07:55
came
1:07:55
from
1:07:56
Yavin
1:07:56
Hoth.
1:07:56
I
1:07:57
need,
1:07:57
I
1:07:57
need
1:07:57
that
1:07:57
show.
1:07:59
Cleo
1:08:00
behind
1:08:00
it.
1:08:01
Yeah,
1:08:01
take
1:08:02
us,
1:08:02
take
1:08:02
us
1:08:02
three
1:08:03
or
1:08:03
four
1:08:03
spin
1:08:03
offs
1:08:04
deep
1:08:04
at
1:08:04
this
1:08:04
point.
1:08:04
Yep.
1:08:05
Yeah,
1:08:05
I
1:08:05
think,
1:08:06
talking
1:08:06
about
1:08:06
spin
1:08:06
offs,
1:08:07
I
1:08:07
mean,
1:08:07
I
1:08:07
don't
1:08:08
know
1:08:08
if
1:08:08
you're
1:08:08
planning
1:08:08
on
1:08:08
bringing
1:08:09
it
1:08:09
up,
1:08:09
but
1:08:09
Bix's
1:08:09
baby
1:08:10
andor
1:08:10
is
1:08:10
in
1:08:10
Bix's
1:08:11
baby.
1:08:11
Don't
1:08:12
do
1:08:12
it.
1:08:16
But
1:08:16
maybe
1:08:17
you
1:08:17
should
1:08:17
make
1:08:17
a
1:08:17
disclaimer
1:08:18
at
1:08:18
the
1:08:18
beginning
1:08:18
of
1:08:18
this
1:08:18
episode.
1:08:19
But
1:08:20
yeah,
1:08:20
I
1:08:20
don't
1:08:21
know
1:08:21
if
1:08:21
you
1:08:21
guys
1:08:21
had
1:08:21
any
1:08:22
thoughts
1:08:22
on
1:08:22
that.
1:08:22
It
1:08:23
kind
1:08:23
of
1:08:23
stunned
1:08:23
me.
1:08:23
I
1:08:23
had
1:08:23
to
1:08:23
look
1:08:23
it
1:08:24
up
1:08:24
online,
1:08:24
like,
1:08:24
who
1:08:24
is
1:08:25
Bix's
1:08:25
baby
1:08:25
on
1:08:26
this?
1:08:26
But
1:08:26
we
1:08:26
don't
1:08:27
know
1:08:27
yet.
1:08:27
We
1:08:27
don't
1:08:27
know
1:08:27
yet.
1:08:28
That's
1:08:28
been
1:08:28
too
1:08:28
well
1:08:29
for
1:08:29
tj.
1:08:29
But
1:08:29
that's
1:08:29
okay.
1:08:30
He
1:08:30
doesn't
1:08:30
mind
1:08:30
it.
1:08:31
I
1:08:32
think
1:08:32
that
1:08:33
was.
1:08:34
No,
1:08:34
no,
1:08:34
no,
1:08:35
no.
1:08:35
He
1:08:35
said
1:08:35
he
1:08:35
didn't
1:08:36
mind.
1:08:36
I,
1:08:36
we,
1:08:36
we
1:08:37
have
1:08:37
the
1:08:37
slide.
1:08:37
We're
1:08:37
going
1:08:37
to
1:08:38
talk
1:08:38
about
1:08:38
it.
1:08:38
The.
1:08:39
So
1:08:39
I
1:08:40
think
1:08:40
like,
1:08:40
when
1:08:40
Beck,
1:08:41
when
1:08:41
Bix
1:08:42
made
1:08:42
the
1:08:42
decision
1:08:43
to
1:08:43
kind
1:08:43
of
1:08:43
give
1:08:44
him
1:08:44
a
1:08:44
note
1:08:44
that
1:08:45
says,
1:08:45
like,
1:08:45
I'm
1:08:46
out
1:08:46
because
1:08:46
you
1:08:47
won't
1:08:47
do
1:08:47
this
1:08:47
if
1:08:47
I.
1:08:48
Unless
1:08:48
I'm
1:08:48
out
1:08:48
of
1:08:49
the
1:08:49
pitcher.
1:08:50
What
1:08:50
a
1:08:50
swing,
1:08:51
man.
1:08:51
What
1:08:51
a
1:08:51
swing.
1:08:52
That
1:08:52
destroyed
1:08:52
me.
1:08:53
Yeah.
1:08:53
I
1:08:54
was
1:08:54
damn.
1:08:55
Like,
1:08:55
she
1:08:55
really
1:08:56
did
1:08:56
that
1:08:56
to
1:08:56
him.
1:08:57
But
1:08:57
in
1:08:57
a
1:08:58
way
1:08:58
that
1:08:58
was
1:08:58
like,
1:08:59
made
1:08:59
sense.
1:08:59
I
1:09:00
know
1:09:00
what's
1:09:00
best
1:09:00
for
1:09:01
you,
1:09:01
and
1:09:01
you
1:09:02
don't
1:09:02
know.
1:09:02
I
1:09:03
hate
1:09:03
doing
1:09:03
this,
1:09:04
but
1:09:04
I'm
1:09:05
gonna
1:09:05
rip
1:09:05
this
1:09:05
band
1:09:06
aid
1:09:06
off
1:09:06
and
1:09:07
it's
1:09:07
gonna
1:09:07
hurt.
1:09:08
But,
1:09:09
but,
1:09:10
but,
1:09:11
but
1:09:11
the
1:09:11
galaxy
1:09:12
needs
1:09:12
this
1:09:13
right
1:09:13
now.
1:09:13
So
1:09:13
she
1:09:14
leaves.
1:09:14
I'm
1:09:14
like,
1:09:15
no
1:09:15
way.
1:09:16
I
1:09:16
was
1:09:16
like,
1:09:16
this
1:09:17
show's
1:09:17
got
1:09:17
some
1:09:17
balls.
1:09:18
I'm
1:09:18
sorry.
1:09:20
And
1:09:20
the
1:09:20
way
1:09:20
that
1:09:20
they,
1:09:21
the
1:09:21
way
1:09:21
that
1:09:22
they
1:09:22
led
1:09:22
you.
1:09:23
And
1:09:23
it
1:09:23
was
1:09:23
so
1:09:23
heavy
1:09:24
and
1:09:24
it
1:09:24
was,
1:09:25
it
1:09:25
got
1:09:25
really
1:09:25
dark
1:09:26
at
1:09:26
times
1:09:26
to
1:09:26
close
1:09:27
on
1:09:27
that
1:09:27
scene
1:09:27
there,
1:09:28
you
1:09:28
know,
1:09:29
if.
1:09:29
If
1:09:29
Star
1:09:29
wars
1:09:30
is
1:09:30
about
1:09:30
hope
1:09:31
and
1:09:31
a
1:09:31
new
1:09:31
hope
1:09:32
and
1:09:32
that
1:09:32
all
1:09:33
you
1:09:33
need
1:09:33
is
1:09:33
a
1:09:33
seed
1:09:34
of
1:09:34
hope
1:09:35
to
1:09:35
lead
1:09:36
you
1:09:36
forward,
1:09:37
then,
1:09:37
then
1:09:37
this
1:09:38
was
1:09:38
the
1:09:38
one.
1:09:39
Seeing
1:09:40
her
1:09:41
somewhat
1:09:41
happy
1:09:42
ending,
1:09:42
somewhat
1:09:43
at
1:09:43
peace
1:09:44
because
1:09:44
of
1:09:44
the
1:09:44
trauma
1:09:44
she's
1:09:45
gone
1:09:45
through
1:09:45
even
1:09:45
on
1:09:46
that
1:09:46
particular
1:09:46
planet
1:09:47
in
1:09:47
that
1:09:47
field,
1:09:48
what
1:09:48
happened
1:09:48
to
1:09:49
her,
1:09:49
um,
1:09:50
or.
1:09:50
Or
1:09:51
the
1:09:51
assault
1:09:52
that
1:09:52
she
1:09:52
experienced.
1:09:53
And
1:09:53
then
1:09:54
to
1:09:54
see
1:09:54
her
1:09:54
holding
1:09:55
a
1:09:55
child
1:09:55
that
1:09:56
there
1:09:56
is
1:09:56
hope.
1:09:57
Could
1:09:57
that
1:09:57
child
1:09:58
show
1:09:58
up
1:09:58
in
1:09:58
other
1:09:58
places?
1:09:58
I
1:09:58
don't
1:09:59
know.
1:09:59
People
1:09:59
are
1:09:59
making
1:09:59
speculations.
1:10:00
People
1:10:00
are
1:10:00
always
1:10:00
wondering
1:10:01
just
1:10:01
like
1:10:01
who
1:10:01
raised
1:10:02
parents
1:10:02
are.
1:10:02
Who
1:10:03
is
1:10:03
this
1:10:03
baby
1:10:04
grow
1:10:04
up
1:10:04
to
1:10:04
be
1:10:05
Baby
1:10:05
Grogu?
1:10:05
I
1:10:06
don't
1:10:06
know.
1:10:09
Snoke.
1:10:09
It's
1:10:09
Snoke.
1:10:12
I,
1:10:13
I.
1:10:14
Did
1:10:14
you
1:10:14
guys
1:10:14
like
1:10:14
that
1:10:14
ending?
1:10:15
Was
1:10:15
that
1:10:15
something
1:10:15
that.
1:10:16
I
1:10:16
mean,
1:10:16
I
1:10:16
love
1:10:18
it.
1:10:18
I
1:10:18
loved
1:10:18
it.
1:10:19
I
1:10:19
mean,
1:10:21
to
1:10:21
me,
1:10:21
this
1:10:22
showcased
1:10:22
everything,
1:10:23
what
1:10:24
the
1:10:24
show
1:10:24
was
1:10:24
about.
1:10:25
It's
1:10:26
hope
1:10:27
that
1:10:28
the
1:10:28
rebellions
1:10:29
are
1:10:29
built
1:10:29
on
1:10:29
hope.
1:10:30
But
1:10:31
it's
1:10:31
also
1:10:31
a
1:10:32
comparison
1:10:33
to
1:10:34
the
1:10:35
way
1:10:35
that
1:10:35
I
1:10:36
interact
1:10:37
with
1:10:37
Star
1:10:37
wars
1:10:37
now.
1:10:37
It's
1:10:38
like
1:10:39
when
1:10:39
I
1:10:40
was
1:10:40
a
1:10:40
kid,
1:10:41
I
1:10:41
liked
1:10:41
Star
1:10:42
Wars
1:10:42
a
1:10:42
certain
1:10:42
way.
1:10:43
It
1:10:43
was
1:10:43
very
1:10:44
hopeful
1:10:45
and
1:10:45
there
1:10:45
were
1:10:45
certain
1:10:46
things
1:10:46
about
1:10:46
it.
1:10:46
But
1:10:46
now
1:10:48
I
1:10:48
would
1:10:48
say
1:10:49
probably
1:10:49
10,
1:10:49
12
1:10:49
years
1:10:50
ago,
1:10:50
I
1:10:50
started
1:10:51
seeing
1:10:51
Star
1:10:51
wars
1:10:52
differently
1:10:52
because
1:10:52
I'm
1:10:52
in
1:10:53
different
1:10:53
stage
1:10:53
in
1:10:53
my
1:10:53
life.
1:10:54
And
1:10:54
this,
1:10:56
this,
1:10:57
this,
1:10:57
this
1:10:58
ending
1:10:58
on
1:10:58
a
1:10:59
different
1:10:59
kind
1:11:00
of
1:11:00
hope,
1:11:00
a
1:11:00
tragic
1:11:01
hope
1:11:01
was
1:11:02
such
1:11:02
a.
1:11:02
Was
1:11:03
such
1:11:03
a
1:11:03
fitting
1:11:04
parallel
1:11:04
to
1:11:04
the
1:11:04
way
1:11:05
Star
1:11:05
wars
1:11:05
is
1:11:05
with
1:11:05
me
1:11:06
now.
1:11:06
It
1:11:07
was.
1:11:07
It
1:11:07
was
1:11:07
just
1:11:08
so
1:11:08
beautiful
1:11:08
that,
1:11:09
that
1:11:09
this
1:11:10
is
1:11:10
still
1:11:10
hope.
1:11:10
But
1:11:11
hope
1:11:11
can
1:11:11
look
1:11:11
different.
1:11:12
And
1:11:12
hopefully
1:11:13
hope,
1:11:13
hope
1:11:14
and.
1:11:14
And
1:11:15
hope
1:11:15
is
1:11:15
a
1:11:15
choice,
1:11:16
you
1:11:16
know,
1:11:17
hope,
1:11:17
hope.
1:11:18
And
1:11:18
hope
1:11:18
is
1:11:19
hard
1:11:19
to
1:11:20
hold
1:11:21
on
1:11:21
to,
1:11:22
but.
1:11:22
But
1:11:24
even
1:11:24
if
1:11:24
it
1:11:24
does
1:11:24
look
1:11:25
different,
1:11:26
so
1:11:26
I
1:11:27
thought
1:11:27
that
1:11:27
was
1:11:27
a
1:11:27
beautiful
1:11:28
way
1:11:28
to
1:11:28
go.
1:11:28
And
1:11:29
no,
1:11:29
that's
1:11:29
not
1:11:29
poe.
1:11:30
Please
1:11:30
don't
1:11:30
say
1:11:30
that's
1:11:31
Po.
1:11:31
That's
1:11:31
just
1:11:31
a
1:11:32
baby.
1:11:32
Leave
1:11:32
it
1:11:33
alone.
1:11:34
The
1:11:34
director
1:11:35
even
1:11:35
said
1:11:35
it
1:11:35
was
1:11:36
supposed
1:11:36
to
1:11:36
be
1:11:36
just
1:11:36
an
1:11:36
idea
1:11:37
of
1:11:37
hope.
1:11:37
So.
1:11:37
Yeah,
1:11:38
yeah,
1:11:39
no,
1:11:39
that
1:11:39
was
1:11:39
my
1:11:39
first
1:11:39
thought
1:11:40
is
1:11:40
that's
1:11:40
Po.
1:11:40
So.
1:11:41
No.
1:11:42
Yeah.
1:11:42
And
1:11:42
to
1:11:42
go
1:11:42
back,
1:11:43
like
1:11:43
the
1:11:43
idea
1:11:43
of
1:11:43
hope,
1:11:44
go
1:11:44
back
1:11:44
to
1:11:44
the.
1:11:44
The
1:11:45
book
1:11:45
and
1:11:45
everything.
1:11:45
So
1:11:46
the
1:11:46
very
1:11:46
last
1:11:46
line
1:11:46
of
1:11:47
the
1:11:47
book
1:11:47
talks
1:11:48
about
1:11:48
Marva
1:11:48
Andor
1:11:49
and.
1:11:50
And
1:11:50
her
1:11:50
plea.
1:11:51
It
1:11:51
says,
1:11:51
fight
1:11:51
the
1:11:51
Empire.
1:11:52
And
1:11:52
then
1:11:52
it
1:11:52
says
1:11:52
it
1:11:53
can
1:11:53
be
1:11:53
a
1:11:53
different
1:11:53
this
1:11:54
time.
1:11:54
And
1:11:54
it
1:11:54
begins
1:11:55
with
1:11:55
you.
1:11:56
There
1:11:56
we
1:11:56
go.
1:11:57
There
1:11:57
we
1:11:57
go.
1:11:57
Beautiful.
1:11:58
Lasting
1:11:58
of
1:11:59
hope.
1:11:59
And
1:11:59
I
1:11:59
love
1:12:00
that
1:12:00
that
1:12:00
book,
1:12:01
which
1:12:01
talks
1:12:01
about
1:12:01
the
1:12:01
rise
1:12:02
and
1:12:02
fall
1:12:02
of
1:12:02
the
1:12:03
Galactic
1:12:03
Empire,
1:12:05
ends
1:12:05
with
1:12:06
a
1:12:06
quote
1:12:06
from
1:12:06
Andor
1:12:07
season
1:12:07
one.
1:12:08
Like,
1:12:08
you
1:12:08
know,
1:12:09
fight
1:12:09
the
1:12:09
Empire.
1:12:09
Supposed
1:12:10
to
1:12:10
be.
1:12:10
I
1:12:10
think
1:12:10
the
1:12:10
originally,
1:12:11
legend
1:12:11
has
1:12:11
it,
1:12:12
F
1:12:13
word
1:12:13
but
1:12:14
was
1:12:14
like
1:12:14
didn't
1:12:15
want
1:12:15
to
1:12:15
go
1:12:15
that
1:12:15
far
1:12:16
so
1:12:16
they
1:12:16
went
1:12:16
with
1:12:16
fight.
1:12:18
But
1:12:18
I,
1:12:18
I
1:12:18
think
1:12:19
to
1:12:19
end
1:12:20
the
1:12:20
book
1:12:20
with
1:12:20
that
1:12:21
is.
1:12:22
Is
1:12:22
pretty
1:12:22
special
1:12:24
and
1:12:24
and
1:12:24
it
1:12:24
just
1:12:24
confirmed
1:12:26
of
1:12:27
how
1:12:27
much
1:12:28
that
1:12:28
book
1:12:28
helped
1:12:29
me
1:12:29
understand
1:12:30
or
1:12:30
experience
1:12:31
and
1:12:31
or
1:12:31
in
1:12:31
a
1:12:32
different
1:12:32
way
1:12:32
as
1:12:32
I
1:12:32
was
1:12:33
reading
1:12:33
it
1:12:33
along
1:12:33
along
1:12:34
the
1:12:34
way.
1:12:34
It's
1:12:35
pretty,
1:12:35
pretty
1:12:35
cool.
1:12:36
Yeah.
1:12:37
A
1:12:37
book
1:12:37
that
1:12:37
ends
1:12:37
with
1:12:38
a
1:12:38
call
1:12:38
to
1:12:38
arms
1:12:38
is
1:12:38
always
1:12:39
some
1:12:39
going
1:12:39
to
1:12:39
stick
1:12:40
with
1:12:40
you.
1:12:41
Yeah.
1:12:41
Yeah.
1:12:42
If
1:12:42
you're
1:12:42
engaging
1:12:43
honestly
1:12:43
with
1:12:44
the
1:12:44
book
1:12:44
then
1:12:45
you
1:12:45
know
1:12:45
it's
1:12:45
time
1:12:45
to
1:12:45
fight
1:12:45
the
1:12:46
Empire.
1:12:49
Yes.
1:12:50
Yeah.
1:12:52
Cool
1:12:52
cool.
1:12:52
Friends.
1:12:54
Any.
1:12:54
Any.
1:12:55
We'll
1:12:55
be
1:12:55
talking
1:12:55
about
1:12:56
this
1:12:56
series
1:12:56
of
1:12:57
Andor
1:12:58
and
1:12:59
that
1:12:59
impact
1:13:00
on
1:13:00
the
1:13:00
Star
1:13:00
wars
1:13:00
universe.
1:13:01
There's
1:13:02
a
1:13:02
lot
1:13:02
of
1:13:02
things
1:13:02
coming
1:13:02
up
1:13:03
in
1:13:03
Star
1:13:04
Wars.
1:13:04
It's
1:13:04
a
1:13:04
good
1:13:04
time
1:13:04
to
1:13:05
be
1:13:05
a
1:13:05
Star
1:13:05
wars
1:13:05
fan
1:13:05
of
1:13:05
my
1:13:05
book.
1:13:06
I
1:13:06
think
1:13:08
you
1:13:08
know
1:13:08
I,
1:13:09
I
1:13:09
kind
1:13:09
of
1:13:10
share
1:13:10
other
1:13:10
people's
1:13:10
thoughts
1:13:11
and
1:13:11
other
1:13:11
big
1:13:11
fans
1:13:12
that
1:13:12
sometimes
1:13:13
Star
1:13:13
wars
1:13:13
has
1:13:13
somewhat
1:13:14
of
1:13:14
identity
1:13:14
crisis
1:13:15
when
1:13:15
they
1:13:15
don't
1:13:15
know
1:13:15
what
1:13:15
it
1:13:15
want
1:13:16
to
1:13:16
be.
1:13:16
They're
1:13:16
throwing
1:13:16
everything
1:13:17
at
1:13:17
the
1:13:17
wall
1:13:17
to
1:13:17
see
1:13:18
what
1:13:18
sticks
1:13:18
and,
1:13:19
and
1:13:19
I'm
1:13:19
there
1:13:19
for
1:13:20
all
1:13:20
of
1:13:20
it
1:13:20
and,
1:13:20
and
1:13:20
I'm
1:13:21
there
1:13:21
to
1:13:21
dissect
1:13:22
it
1:13:22
and
1:13:22
think
1:13:22
about
1:13:22
it
1:13:22
and
1:13:23
there's
1:13:23
things
1:13:23
that
1:13:23
I
1:13:23
like
1:13:24
and
1:13:24
don't
1:13:24
like
1:13:24
about
1:13:25
all
1:13:25
the
1:13:25
things
1:13:25
he
1:13:26
put
1:13:26
out.
1:13:26
But
1:13:26
it's
1:13:27
pretty
1:13:27
hard
1:13:27
for
1:13:27
me
1:13:27
to.
1:13:29
To
1:13:29
be
1:13:29
critical
1:13:30
of
1:13:30
and
1:13:30
or
1:13:30
season
1:13:30
one
1:13:31
too
1:13:31
other
1:13:31
than
1:13:31
like
1:13:32
where
1:13:32
am
1:13:32
I?
1:13:32
Where
1:13:32
are
1:13:33
my
1:13:33
Jedi
1:13:33
and
1:13:33
lightsabers?
1:13:34
But
1:13:34
even
1:13:34
in
1:13:34
some
1:13:35
season
1:13:35
two
1:13:36
they
1:13:36
bring
1:13:36
in
1:13:37
the
1:13:37
Force.
1:13:37
They
1:13:37
have
1:13:37
a
1:13:37
Force
1:13:38
healer.
1:13:38
They,
1:13:39
they
1:13:39
allude
1:13:39
to
1:13:40
the
1:13:40
fact
1:13:40
that
1:13:40
there
1:13:40
is
1:13:40
a
1:13:41
destiny
1:13:41
and
1:13:42
Bail
1:13:42
Organa
1:13:42
even
1:13:42
says
1:13:43
may
1:13:43
the
1:13:43
Force
1:13:43
be
1:13:43
with
1:13:44
you.
1:13:44
So
1:13:44
there
1:13:44
is
1:13:45
that
1:13:45
aspect
1:13:45
of
1:13:45
it
1:13:46
and
1:13:46
again
1:13:46
it's.
1:13:47
It's
1:13:47
the
1:13:47
small
1:13:47
relations,
1:13:47
it's
1:13:48
the
1:13:48
people
1:13:49
that,
1:13:49
that
1:13:49
don't
1:13:50
get
1:13:50
the
1:13:50
spotlight
1:13:51
in
1:13:51
the
1:13:51
big
1:13:51
movies
1:13:52
that
1:13:52
make
1:13:52
a
1:13:53
difference
1:13:53
to
1:13:54
what
1:13:54
happens
1:13:54
that
1:13:54
and
1:13:54
I
1:13:55
think
1:13:55
that
1:13:55
goes
1:13:55
on
1:13:55
in
1:13:55
our
1:13:55
real
1:13:56
world.
1:13:56
Sometimes
1:13:56
we
1:13:56
think
1:13:57
those
1:13:57
on
1:13:57
the
1:13:57
screen
1:13:57
are
1:13:58
the
1:13:58
influencers
1:13:59
are
1:13:59
get
1:13:59
all
1:13:59
the
1:13:59
attention
1:14:00
and
1:14:00
they're
1:14:00
the
1:14:00
only
1:14:00
ones
1:14:01
who
1:14:01
can
1:14:01
make
1:14:01
a
1:14:01
difference
1:14:02
and
1:14:02
those
1:14:02
kinds
1:14:03
of
1:14:03
things
1:14:03
and
1:14:03
no
1:14:04
it's
1:14:05
going
1:14:05
small
1:14:05
in
1:14:05
your
1:14:05
local
1:14:06
community
1:14:06
and
1:14:07
people
1:14:07
you
1:14:07
have
1:14:07
relationships
1:14:08
with
1:14:08
in
1:14:08
your
1:14:08
church
1:14:09
and
1:14:09
in
1:14:09
your
1:14:09
community
1:14:10
and
1:14:10
people
1:14:10
you
1:14:10
work
1:14:10
with.
1:14:11
It's
1:14:11
those
1:14:12
decisions
1:14:12
and
1:14:12
how
1:14:12
you
1:14:12
treat
1:14:13
those
1:14:13
people
1:14:14
and
1:14:14
how
1:14:14
you
1:14:14
grow
1:14:15
in
1:14:15
that
1:14:15
that's
1:14:16
going
1:14:16
to
1:14:16
make
1:14:16
a
1:14:16
big
1:14:16
difference
1:14:17
to
1:14:17
how
1:14:17
this
1:14:17
world
1:14:18
operates
1:14:18
as
1:14:18
a
1:14:18
larger.
1:14:19
Sorry
1:14:19
I'm
1:14:19
getting
1:14:19
on
1:14:19
my
1:14:19
little
1:14:20
soapbox
1:14:20
here
1:14:20
but
1:14:20
I
1:14:20
think
1:14:21
that's
1:14:21
what
1:14:21
I've
1:14:21
learned
1:14:22
from
1:14:22
the
1:14:22
book
1:14:22
and
1:14:23
from.
1:14:23
From
1:14:24
from
1:14:24
Andor.
1:14:24
It's.
1:14:25
It's
1:14:25
it's.
1:14:26
It's
1:14:26
the,
1:14:26
it's
1:14:26
the
1:14:27
small
1:14:27
stuff.
1:14:27
It's
1:14:27
loving.
1:14:28
Loving
1:14:28
small.
1:14:28
It's
1:14:28
going
1:14:29
small
1:14:29
with
1:14:29
the
1:14:30
people
1:14:30
next
1:14:30
to
1:14:30
you
1:14:30
that
1:14:31
you're
1:14:31
side
1:14:31
by
1:14:31
side
1:14:31
with
1:14:32
in
1:14:32
your.
1:14:33
And
1:14:33
that
1:14:33
you,
1:14:34
you
1:14:35
know,
1:14:35
the
1:14:35
same
1:14:35
gas
1:14:36
station
1:14:36
attendant
1:14:36
you
1:14:36
see
1:14:37
every
1:14:37
other
1:14:37
day
1:14:37
because
1:14:38
you're
1:14:38
going
1:14:38
in
1:14:38
to
1:14:38
get
1:14:39
your
1:14:39
Mountain
1:14:39
Dew
1:14:39
and
1:14:40
chicken
1:14:40
tenders
1:14:40
and
1:14:41
get
1:14:41
gas,
1:14:42
maybe
1:14:42
strike
1:14:42
up
1:14:43
a
1:14:43
relationship
1:14:43
and
1:14:44
get
1:14:44
to
1:14:44
know
1:14:44
their
1:14:44
name
1:14:44
and
1:14:45
what
1:14:45
they're
1:14:45
going
1:14:45
through
1:14:46
that's
1:14:46
going
1:14:46
to
1:14:46
make
1:14:47
a
1:14:47
difference
1:14:47
in
1:14:47
the
1:14:48
long
1:14:48
run.
1:14:48
In
1:14:48
the
1:14:48
rise
1:14:49
and
1:14:49
fall
1:14:49
of.
1:14:49
Of
1:14:50
tyrannical
1:14:50
empires.
1:14:52
The
1:14:52
only
1:14:52
thing
1:14:52
that
1:14:53
I
1:14:53
was
1:14:53
when
1:14:54
I
1:14:54
finished
1:14:54
the
1:14:54
show,
1:14:55
I
1:14:55
was
1:14:55
just
1:14:55
like,
1:14:55
whoa.
1:14:56
But
1:14:56
what
1:14:58
I
1:14:58
wish.
1:15:00
I
1:15:00
wish
1:15:01
this
1:15:01
was
1:15:02
a
1:15:02
part
1:15:03
of
1:15:04
the
1:15:05
sequel
1:15:05
trilogy
1:15:06
because
1:15:06
the
1:15:06
sequel
1:15:07
trilogy
1:15:07
tried
1:15:07
so
1:15:08
hard
1:15:08
to
1:15:08
be
1:15:08
something
1:15:09
and
1:15:09
to
1:15:09
have
1:15:09
an
1:15:10
identity
1:15:10
and
1:15:10
it
1:15:12
kind
1:15:12
of
1:15:12
got
1:15:12
messy.
1:15:13
And
1:15:14
a
1:15:14
show
1:15:14
like
1:15:15
this
1:15:15
would
1:15:15
be
1:15:16
really
1:15:17
cool
1:15:17
to
1:15:17
see
1:15:17
in
1:15:18
the
1:15:18
sequel
1:15:19
trilogy
1:15:19
and
1:15:20
see
1:15:20
what
1:15:21
kind
1:15:21
of
1:15:21
stories
1:15:22
they
1:15:22
can
1:15:22
pull
1:15:22
from
1:15:22
it
1:15:23
because
1:15:23
they
1:15:23
need
1:15:24
to
1:15:24
have.
1:15:26
I
1:15:26
think
1:15:27
the
1:15:27
Mando
1:15:28
and
1:15:28
the
1:15:28
Grogu
1:15:29
stuff
1:15:29
is
1:15:29
going
1:15:30
to.
1:15:31
Is
1:15:31
going
1:15:31
to
1:15:31
pull
1:15:32
that
1:15:32
weight.
1:15:32
But.
1:15:33
But
1:15:34
that
1:15:34
was
1:15:34
the
1:15:34
only
1:15:35
thing
1:15:35
I
1:15:35
was
1:15:35
just
1:15:35
like,
1:15:35
man,
1:15:37
I
1:15:37
just
1:15:37
wish
1:15:37
that
1:15:38
this
1:15:38
was
1:15:38
a
1:15:38
part
1:15:38
of
1:15:39
7,
1:15:39
8,
1:15:40
and
1:15:40
9
1:15:40
because
1:15:41
they're
1:15:41
like
1:15:42
the
1:15:42
stepchildren
1:15:42
of
1:15:43
the
1:15:43
Star
1:15:43
wars
1:15:43
saga
1:15:44
right
1:15:44
now.
1:15:45
Yeah.
1:15:46
The
1:15:46
best
1:15:47
sequels
1:15:47
content
1:15:48
is.
1:15:48
Is
1:15:48
the
1:15:49
books.
1:15:50
And
1:15:50
like
1:15:51
this
1:15:51
one.
1:15:52
The
1:15:52
best
1:15:52
sequels
1:15:53
content
1:15:53
is
1:15:53
the
1:15:53
books.
1:15:54
Okay.
1:15:54
Including
1:15:54
this
1:15:55
one
1:15:55
and
1:15:55
Phasma.
1:15:56
If
1:15:56
you
1:15:56
didn't
1:15:57
read
1:15:57
Phasma,
1:15:57
really,
1:15:58
it's
1:15:58
really.
1:15:58
I
1:15:59
could
1:15:59
not
1:15:59
finish.
1:15:59
I
1:16:00
kept
1:16:00
falling
1:16:00
asleep.
1:16:02
She
1:16:02
was
1:16:02
just
1:16:02
a
1:16:02
badass
1:16:03
the
1:16:03
whole
1:16:03
time.
1:16:03
I
1:16:04
was
1:16:04
just
1:16:04
like,
1:16:04
okay,
1:16:05
she's
1:16:05
just
1:16:05
a
1:16:05
badass.
1:16:07
Yeah,
1:16:08
is
1:16:09
that's
1:16:09
a
1:16:09
book
1:16:10
Again,
1:16:10
all
1:16:10
reading
1:16:11
counts.
1:16:11
You're
1:16:11
going
1:16:11
back
1:16:11
to
1:16:12
the
1:16:12
book
1:16:12
already
1:16:13
counts.
1:16:14
But
1:16:15
the
1:16:15
real
1:16:15
flop
1:16:16
is
1:16:16
Disney
1:16:16
not
1:16:16
doing
1:16:17
the
1:16:17
Old
1:16:17
Republic.
1:16:18
The
1:16:18
same
1:16:19
thing
1:16:19
I
1:16:19
said
1:16:19
10
1:16:19
years
1:16:20
ago.
1:16:20
We
1:16:20
might.
1:16:20
There
1:16:21
were
1:16:21
some
1:16:21
nods
1:16:21
to
1:16:22
it.
1:16:22
Yeah.
1:16:24
If
1:16:24
we're
1:16:24
going
1:16:25
into
1:16:26
future
1:16:26
Star
1:16:27
wars
1:16:27
properties,
1:16:28
I
1:16:28
know
1:16:29
we're
1:16:29
gonna
1:16:30
talk
1:16:30
about
1:16:30
that
1:16:30
possibly.
1:16:32
But
1:16:32
there's.
1:16:33
There
1:16:33
might
1:16:33
be
1:16:33
a
1:16:33
chance
1:16:34
that
1:16:34
it
1:16:34
could
1:16:34
swing
1:16:34
into
1:16:35
something
1:16:35
like
1:16:35
that.
1:16:35
I
1:16:35
would.
1:16:36
I
1:16:36
agree
1:16:36
with
1:16:36
you.
1:16:36
I
1:16:37
would
1:16:37
love
1:16:37
to
1:16:37
see
1:16:37
like
1:16:38
Knights
1:16:38
of
1:16:38
the
1:16:38
older
1:16:38
Republic.
1:16:39
There's
1:16:39
a
1:16:39
chance
1:16:40
I
1:16:40
would
1:16:40
kill
1:16:41
that
1:16:42
would
1:16:42
kill
1:16:42
somebody
1:16:42
for
1:16:43
a
1:16:43
Reddit
1:16:44
show
1:16:45
or
1:16:46
a
1:16:46
Darth
1:16:46
Bane
1:16:46
trilogy
1:16:47
with
1:16:47
a
1:16:47
killer.
1:16:47
Keanu
1:16:48
Reeves.
1:16:49
Keanu
1:16:49
Reeves
1:16:50
is
1:16:50
Revan.
1:16:50
Oh,
1:16:51
give
1:16:51
it
1:16:51
to
1:16:51
me.
1:16:52
John
1:16:52
Wick
1:16:52
is
1:16:52
Revan.
1:16:53
Come
1:16:53
on.
1:16:55
Don't
1:16:55
kill
1:16:55
his
1:16:55
dog.
1:16:56
Yeah,
1:16:56
don't
1:16:56
kill
1:16:57
Revan's
1:16:57
dog.
1:16:57
He's
1:16:57
coming
1:16:58
after
1:16:58
you.
1:16:58
Don't
1:16:58
kill
1:16:58
his
1:16:58
wife.
1:16:59
That
1:16:59
he
1:16:59
totally
1:17:00
doesn't
1:17:00
have.
1:17:02
You
1:17:03
know,
1:17:03
in
1:17:03
terms
1:17:03
of
1:17:03
charge.
1:17:03
We're
1:17:03
gonna
1:17:04
do
1:17:04
a
1:17:04
bonus
1:17:04
question
1:17:04
here
1:17:05
in
1:17:05
a
1:17:05
minute
1:17:05
after
1:17:05
I
1:17:05
do
1:17:06
do
1:17:06
some,
1:17:06
some
1:17:06
things
1:17:07
here,
1:17:07
but
1:17:07
our
1:17:07
bonus
1:17:07
question
1:17:08
and
1:17:08
I,
1:17:08
I
1:17:08
do
1:17:08
think
1:17:09
hopefully
1:17:10
there's
1:17:10
some
1:17:10
lessons
1:17:10
learned
1:17:11
with
1:17:12
Andor
1:17:12
and,
1:17:13
and
1:17:13
moving
1:17:13
forward
1:17:14
and,
1:17:14
and
1:17:14
see
1:17:15
what
1:17:15
people
1:17:15
gravitate
1:17:15
to
1:17:15
and
1:17:16
what
1:17:16
people
1:17:16
are
1:17:16
talking
1:17:16
about.
1:17:17
And
1:17:17
you
1:17:17
know,
1:17:18
we
1:17:18
just
1:17:18
had
1:17:18
a
1:17:18
Star
1:17:18
wars
1:17:18
celebration
1:17:19
celebration,
1:17:19
dropping
1:17:20
some,
1:17:20
some
1:17:20
stuff
1:17:21
about
1:17:21
content
1:17:21
with
1:17:22
cartoons
1:17:22
and
1:17:22
animation
1:17:23
and,
1:17:23
and
1:17:23
Starfighter
1:17:24
and
1:17:25
things
1:17:25
coming
1:17:25
down
1:17:25
the
1:17:25
road.
1:17:26
And
1:17:26
so
1:17:26
our
1:17:26
bonus
1:17:26
question
1:17:27
is
1:17:27
going
1:17:27
to
1:17:27
be
1:17:28
what
1:17:28
are
1:17:28
you
1:17:28
most
1:17:28
looking
1:17:29
forward
1:17:29
to
1:17:30
in
1:17:30
the
1:17:30
next
1:17:31
Star
1:17:31
wars
1:17:32
over
1:17:32
the
1:17:32
next
1:17:33
few
1:17:33
years?
1:17:33
So
1:17:34
we're
1:17:34
going
1:17:34
to
1:17:34
go
1:17:34
around
1:17:34
the
1:17:34
horn.
1:17:35
What
1:17:35
are
1:17:35
we
1:17:35
most
1:17:36
looking
1:17:36
forward
1:17:36
to?
1:17:37
The
1:17:37
stuff
1:17:38
that
1:17:38
they've
1:17:38
already
1:17:38
shared
1:17:39
is
1:17:39
going
1:17:39
to
1:17:39
happen.
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so
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you
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can
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hop
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on
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Patreon,
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know
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what
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we're
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going
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to
1:17:44
say.
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Come
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join
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us
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over
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there.
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on
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Discord,
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all
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the
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places
1:17:48
we
1:17:48
love
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to
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have
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you
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a
1:17:49
part
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of
1:17:50
the
1:17:50
community.
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Community.
1:17:51
So
1:17:51
we're
1:17:52
going
1:17:52
to
1:17:52
talk
1:17:52
about
1:17:52
that
1:17:53
question
1:17:54
in
1:17:54
a
1:17:54
moment.
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1:17:55
as
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we
1:17:55
sign
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off
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here,
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here.
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Yes.
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Grace.
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got
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good
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reels,
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good
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content.
1:18:03
He's
1:18:03
going
1:18:04
to
1:18:04
talk
1:18:04
more
1:18:04
about
1:18:04
the
1:18:04
rise
1:18:05
and
1:18:05
fall
1:18:05
of
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the
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Galactic
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Empire
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on
1:18:06
another
1:18:07
episode
1:18:07
maybe
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with
1:18:07
the
1:18:08
author.
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I.
1:18:08
We'll
1:18:09
see
1:18:09
what
1:18:09
happens.
1:18:10
We'll
1:18:10
see
1:18:10
if
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the
1:18:10
Force
1:18:11
allows
1:18:11
that.
1:18:12
And
1:18:12
then,
1:18:13
you
1:18:13
know,
1:18:13
in
1:18:13
terms
1:18:13
of
1:18:14
all
1:18:14
reading
1:18:14
count
1:18:15
content,
1:18:16
you
1:18:16
can
1:18:16
find
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that
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series
1:18:18
on
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our
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podcasts
1:18:20
and
1:18:20
YouTube.
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You
1:18:22
also,
1:18:23
there's
1:18:23
merch.
1:18:24
There's
1:18:24
all
1:18:25
reading
1:18:25
counts.
1:18:27
And
1:18:28
yeah,
1:18:29
part
1:18:29
of
1:18:29
the
1:18:29
contributions
1:18:30
you
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buy
1:18:30
some
1:18:30
merch
1:18:31
is
1:18:31
going
1:18:31
to
1:18:31
go
1:18:31
to
1:18:31
your
1:18:31
local
1:18:31
library.
1:18:32
So
1:18:33
there
1:18:33
you
1:18:33
go,
1:18:33
guys.
1:18:35
I,
1:18:35
I'm
1:18:36
gonna
1:18:37
end
1:18:37
with,
1:18:37
with
1:18:37
a
1:18:38
quote
1:18:38
here,
1:18:38
one
1:18:38
of
1:18:38
my
1:18:38
favorite
1:18:39
quotes.
1:18:39
All
1:18:39
right,
1:18:39
here
1:18:40
we
1:18:40
go.
1:18:40
Anything
1:18:41
else
1:18:41
we
1:18:41
need
1:18:41
to
1:18:41
plug?
1:18:41
Anything
1:18:42
else
1:18:42
we
1:18:42
want
1:18:42
to
1:18:42
say
1:18:43
before
1:18:43
we,
1:18:44
we
1:18:44
sign
1:18:44
off.
1:18:46
Got
1:18:46
it.
1:18:46
Got
1:18:47
it.
1:18:47
Cool.
1:18:47
Cool.
1:18:48
All
1:18:48
right.
1:18:49
So
1:18:50
you
1:18:51
know,
1:18:51
we
1:18:51
are
1:18:51
chosen
1:18:51
people.
1:18:52
We
1:18:52
are
1:18:53
geeked
1:18:53
in
1:18:53
a
1:18:53
priest
1:18:53
and
1:18:54
I
1:18:54
and
1:18:54
as
1:18:54
I
1:18:54
say,
1:18:55
share
1:18:55
the
1:18:55
faith,
1:18:55
share
1:18:55
the
1:18:56
geek.
1:18:56
But
1:18:56
I'm
1:18:56
in
1:18:57
with
1:18:57
this.
1:18:57
Never
1:18:58
forget,
1:18:58
never
1:18:58
forget
1:18:59
that
1:18:59
the
1:18:59
ax
1:19:00
forgets
1:19:01
where
1:19:02
what
1:19:02
the
1:19:02
tree
1:19:03
remembers.
1:19:04
The
1:19:04
ax
1:19:04
forgets
1:19:06
what
1:19:06
the
1:19:06
tree
1:19:07
remembers.
1:19:08
Yeah,
1:19:08
I
1:19:08
think
1:19:08
that's
1:19:08
a
1:19:08
quote
1:19:09
from
1:19:09
within.
1:19:10
See
1:19:10
y'
1:19:10
all.
1:19:10
Peace.