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Episode #434 - Defragmenter? I thought it was Tetris! · TechtalkRadio

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  Speaker 1: The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, people, take out your notebooks and pencils and
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  Speaker 2: trive rolls. You're listening to tech Talk Radio with true geeks.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm beast Eider and I'm a
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  Speaker 2: kiek too.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sean to Weird, and I'm Matt Jones. And everybody
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  Speaker 1: is a little I don't know. We just say a
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  Speaker 1: little sleepy little.
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  Speaker 3: You're the only one that didn't lose an hour of
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  Speaker 3: sleep on Sunday, So you can just take that as
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  Speaker 3: you will.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna go with like weary and
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  Speaker 4: mildly rage full at Andy.
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  Speaker 1: No, just but you know what, okay for us in Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: where we don't do any adjustment, there's somewhere else they don't.
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  Speaker 1: Is it Indianapolis that they don't change the time or
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  Speaker 1: something like that.
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  Speaker 3: It's not Indiana. Indiana's still Indiana. Just their time they do.
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  Speaker 1: There's it's Hawaii.
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  Speaker 4: Of course it's Hawaii, because white you need to change
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  Speaker 4: the time in Paradise.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the crazy thing is is because working in media,
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  Speaker 1: you know you're booking interviews. You're looking at people are
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  Speaker 1: contacting you go, Okay, what time do you want to
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  Speaker 1: have them? And then you have to like do the math,
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  Speaker 1: Oh where are they? And then you get this math
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  Speaker 1: to do, Like like I was trying to find out
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  Speaker 1: the time for you, Sean, because you're three hours ahead now,
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  Speaker 1: but I was trying to think, are you in that
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  Speaker 1: there's one area where it's only two hours ahead, and
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out where it is.
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  Speaker 3: So we are the furthest West County in Indiana that
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  Speaker 3: is in Central Time. So I drive if I drove
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  Speaker 3: twenty minutes, maybe thirty minutes to the west, i'd be
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  Speaker 3: in Central Time.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's weird.
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  Speaker 3: That's how close we are. If I drive north two miles,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in Michigan. So I'm kind of in a weird
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  Speaker 3: little trifecta. But yeah, Indiana, Indiana is a weird Like
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  Speaker 3: most of it's Central Time, but some of it's Eastern Time,
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  Speaker 3: and it's kind of a weird mix. But right, I
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  Speaker 3: have coworkers that live in Central Time, right, we have
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  Speaker 3: staff that live in Central Time and they drive, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, forty minutes to get to work. But
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  Speaker 3: then they're also losing. It's so weird. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how they do that.
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  Speaker 1: Is it better the other time of the year for you?
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  Speaker 1: For you guys, I mean when the time adjusts because
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  Speaker 1: you gain an hour, right, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean fall back, fallback, spring forward?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, is it better when you fall back?
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  Speaker 3: Over the years, I worked overnights during most of that time,
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  Speaker 3: so it's like you just worked an extra hour.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of trying to remember because I worked in
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  Speaker 1: radio in California where we'd have to do adjustments and
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  Speaker 1: you always think. I felt like I was getting ripped
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  Speaker 1: off an hour something.
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  Speaker 3: The thing that really frustrates me right now is getting
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  Speaker 3: my kids back into a routine.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you don't think.
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  Speaker 3: You don't think an hour makes a difference, but until
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  Speaker 3: your kids are up at five am instead of six
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  Speaker 3: am or vice versas. So wow, just place havoc with
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  Speaker 3: their sleep schedules.
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  Speaker 4: And I've got three dogs and two cats, and time
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  Speaker 4: is a human construct. So yeah, there we spring ahead
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  Speaker 4: and they're like, hey, Hi, have I mentioned how hungry
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  Speaker 4: I am? And I'm like, well, you're standing on my
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  Speaker 4: chest and the sun's not up. So I had some
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  Speaker 4: inkling that there was something going on our cat for
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  Speaker 4: the first time ever. Last night one of our cats
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  Speaker 4: lose at two am, decided to stage a protest and
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  Speaker 4: took her metal food bowl and just started chucking it
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  Speaker 4: around our bathroom.
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  Speaker 1: Nice of that cat and my.
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  Speaker 4: Wife, God bless her. She got up, you know, got up,
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  Speaker 4: put the ball back in, looked at the cat, was like,
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  Speaker 4: what are you doing? Two hours later at four am,
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  Speaker 4: I guess one protest wasn't enough because now she's throwing
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  Speaker 4: it across the room. Instead of just like drop it,
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  Speaker 4: pick it up, drop it, she's flinging it across the room.
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  Speaker 1: The cat reactions, so now it knows yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm just like, no, the cat's training us successfully,
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to point out, very successfully. Like this morning,
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  Speaker 4: I got up and she's chewing on the collar that
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  Speaker 4: we take off at night, and I'm like, no, don't
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  Speaker 4: chew on that. And as soon as I get up,
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  Speaker 4: she gets just like ah, gotch and dives into the
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  Speaker 4: bathroom for food. And I'm like, I am losing this fight.
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  Speaker 4: I am not winning against a two brain celled cat
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  Speaker 4: and both brain cells are fighting for third place.
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  Speaker 1: Oh boy, well, hopefully you'll be able to catch up
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  Speaker 1: on the sleep. But I'll tell you we got some
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  Speaker 1: great comments a couple of weeks ago when Sean you
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  Speaker 1: were talking about the EPSOM fast photo six' adw. We've
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  Speaker 1: given that a lot of time and I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: post the video and I haven't done that yet. Of
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  Speaker 1: the scans that you were doing, you actually you're still
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  Speaker 1: working on that project, right.
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  Speaker 3: So the backlog this is great, right, the backlog of
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  Speaker 3: photos that I had from the project I started in
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  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, which was all of my grandparents' films, thirty
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  Speaker 3: five mili slides, lose four by six whatever that's done.
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  Speaker 1: Oh great, that's cool, right.
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  Speaker 3: Because in the time that I got that scanner and
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  Speaker 3: I just you know, just in just putting a couple out,
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  Speaker 3: maybe an hour or two a day into it, I
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  Speaker 3: blew through probably twenty eight hundred photos.
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  Speaker 1: Nice, that's good, and got them in.
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  Speaker 3: And organized and upgraded and uploaded to the cloud and
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  Speaker 3: onto my sand storage.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like that thing saved me so much time.
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  Speaker 1: Well. I one of the nice comments we got was
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  Speaker 1: from Mitch Goldstone, who we've had on the show a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times, from scan my photos. They have a
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  Speaker 1: business that does that and he appreciated the fact that, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're mentioning you could do this yourself. You
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  Speaker 1: have the opportunity, and of course we did mention that
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  Speaker 1: you could also go to a service like like Mitch offers,
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  Speaker 1: but he appreciated the fact that you're talking about the
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  Speaker 1: importance of preserving members. We've seen what happened in Hawaii,
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  Speaker 1: We've seen what happened in Los Angeles and Pasadena with floods.
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  Speaker 1: Now that people are concerned with some of these images
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  Speaker 1: could be lost forever where there's no maybe no negatives
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  Speaker 1: in a disaster, and you don't want that to happen.
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  Speaker 1: So we appreciated the aspect of you saving these images
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  Speaker 1: for your family. You actually have gone another step where
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  Speaker 1: and somebody listening may think, well, I've got a scanner,
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  Speaker 1: I've already scanned all my photos. You've got those eight
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  Speaker 1: millimeters or super eight millimeter reels of film. Have you
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  Speaker 1: taken the steps to get those done? And again, Mitchell's
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  Speaker 1: company could do that, but you actually let me know
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  Speaker 1: that there is a way you could do this yourselves
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've talked about this on the show before because
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  Speaker 3: this was part of that project I started back at
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  Speaker 3: twent nineteen. Well, my mom, my aunt, my uncle pitched
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  Speaker 3: in a couple hundred bucks to get me a step
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  Speaker 3: by step film scanner right eight milimeter super eight millimeter
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  Speaker 3: film scanners called a Wolverine data film to digital movie
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  Speaker 3: maker pro. Okay, you can buy them on you can
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  Speaker 3: buy an Amazon, B and H Photo, etc. They make
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  Speaker 3: a couple cheaper versions. I would avoid getting the cheaper
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  Speaker 3: ones if you if you're looking to do this, I
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  Speaker 3: would get I would spend the four hundred dollars to
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  Speaker 3: get it. The next I will recommend that this is
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  Speaker 3: the lowest tier you're going to get at a consumer level,
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  Speaker 3: because the next step starts adding commos to the price.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, so.
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  Speaker 3: Right, so you start getting into a little bit more
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  Speaker 3: of the bottom end of the professional level. So this
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  Speaker 3: is kind of the happy medium, and it's relatively easy
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  Speaker 3: to set up, but there's a lot of prep work involved. Right,
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  Speaker 3: So I scanned I got I don't even know. I
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  Speaker 3: scanned so many films from my grant, from my grandfather,
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  Speaker 3: my mom's side of my maternal grandparents.
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  Speaker 1: What years are you talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, so late forties, so forty nine to wow, eighties? Right,
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  Speaker 3: So I mean there was. There was stuff ranging from
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  Speaker 3: when my when my grandfather serving the navy in the
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  Speaker 3: late forties into the fifties. You know, film of my
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  Speaker 3: mom's first birthday. You know, so in the the early fifties.
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  Speaker 1: Now, these would all be silent. They wouldn't be because
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  Speaker 1: you didn't have Yeah, yeah, you know, there's.
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  Speaker 3: No there's no audio recordings that went along with these. No,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they didn't do the total like, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: all silent. So but it it What I like about
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  Speaker 3: it is and you came across a lot of in
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  Speaker 3: my research on trying to find a scanner. You came
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  Speaker 3: around a clock. You came across a lot that would
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  Speaker 3: just pull the slides through and just kind of videotape
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  Speaker 3: them as they went through.
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  Speaker 1: Right, This actually steps.
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  Speaker 3: Has a stepper motor in it that steps through every
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  Speaker 3: single frame has it catches this brocket advances it one
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  Speaker 3: frame takes it takes an image, advances it takes an
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  Speaker 3: image all the way through until you stop it. So
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  Speaker 3: what that allows us to do is then it compiles
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  Speaker 3: it at twenty four frames per second, which is film
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  Speaker 3: speed to play back for the human eye, and it
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  Speaker 3: generates an MP four file for you right off, right
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  Speaker 3: off the machine. So I can then take that and
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  Speaker 3: put it right into a you know, a final cut
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  Speaker 3: Pro Premiere, Da Vinci, Resolve, etcetera, etcetera.
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  Speaker 1: So you could put graphics in there than with some
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  Speaker 1: of these programs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, at that point, you're it's up to how
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  Speaker 3: creative you want to get. But it's a very time
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  Speaker 3: consuming process, right, And that's something I always try to
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  Speaker 3: remind people about this process. This is a very time
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  Speaker 3: consuming process. Not a lot of people are going to
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  Speaker 3: sit through and do this, and that's what I'm taking
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  Speaker 3: out of this is I'm spending time with my family's history,
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  Speaker 3: seeing these come to life with the videos, the pictures,
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  Speaker 3: touching them, holding onto them, remembering, oh, yeah, that was
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  Speaker 3: me when I was six. I'm a goober, right, It's
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  Speaker 3: like I'm missing fourteenth and all this whole thing. So
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  Speaker 3: it's just a cool process. So this past week I
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  Speaker 3: got in touch with my uncle who gave me my
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  Speaker 3: paternal grandparents' films.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm now in the process of scanning even more
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  Speaker 3: film and I just scanned in this this this morning
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  Speaker 3: a four inch reel of film. So you know, imagine
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  Speaker 3: a four inch reel that it ended up being about
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  Speaker 3: fourteen minutes of foot edge.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, I remember you remember you would take the I
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  Speaker 1: had a Super eight camera and I would take the
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  Speaker 1: you know, the little film out and I would take
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  Speaker 1: it to the photo matter or wherever I was getting processed,
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  Speaker 1: and they would then give me a reel. And that
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  Speaker 1: reel was about three and a half minutes is what
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  Speaker 1: you would get off the standard. But then if you
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  Speaker 1: you know, wanted to edit and spice together, you could
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  Speaker 1: have one of these five inch reels or even seven
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  Speaker 1: inch reels I from what I remember, and you would
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  Speaker 1: get like a longer amount of time. That would mean
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  Speaker 1: it would take you longer scan though.
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah, so this reel is definitely multiple smaller reels
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  Speaker 3: spliced together.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: They had a he has the original spicer that they
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  Speaker 3: have with the tape. If you've ever done tape to
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  Speaker 3: tape or film to film splicing, which I had to
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  Speaker 3: do in college, it's a it's a bear, it's a pain.
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  Speaker 3: Light it up, cut tape.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, spin the real go go go.
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  Speaker 3: Lice tape Spinspinspin's go go go, Right, So.
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  Speaker 1: I had to do that was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: It's a process, right, so it's it's a time consuming process.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm also cleaning and and and and and kind
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  Speaker 3: of setting it for archives. So I'm also unspooling it
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  Speaker 3: with and cleaning it with ninety nine percent ice pp
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  Speaker 3: alcohol and a film cleaner. Right, so I'm spinning it through,
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  Speaker 3: cleaning it with with a cotton cloth, unspooling it, spinning
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  Speaker 3: it back. So I'm cleaning it so that when it
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  Speaker 3: goes to the scanner, it's not goobling up with potential mold,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because it's yeah, emulsion is a chemical that
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  Speaker 3: can break down and can grow mold. So I experienced
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  Speaker 3: that with the first part of the project where I
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  Speaker 3: didn't clean I mean I was cleaning it, but not
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  Speaker 3: doing a very good job of cleaning it. And then
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  Speaker 3: I would go, why is this the crummy that I
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  Speaker 3: take the film out? It's got crumbs and it's got
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  Speaker 3: so I've been I cleaned the scanner every time before.
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  Speaker 3: I love a new real film. So it's just a pain.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's a pain, but it's totally worth it.
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  Speaker 3: It's just time consuming.
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  Speaker 1: Now with this Wolverine data film to digital movie maker
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  Speaker 1: projector this isn't the kind of projector. You would say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and play a move. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: play the movie. Well, watch it on the wall or
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  Speaker 1: watch it on a screen. This is mainly just four
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  Speaker 1: digital transfers, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just pulling the film through shooting light
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  Speaker 3: from the bottom up so that an image scan an
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  Speaker 3: imager can take a picture every frame, and then it
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  Speaker 3: gives you a file at the end.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the quality look looks pretty good. I know,
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  Speaker 1: matt you you saw some of the some of the
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  Speaker 1: finished product of one he had just finished. It was
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  Speaker 1: pretty pretty clear.
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  Speaker 4: It was really clear. Like I was looking at it,
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  Speaker 4: like what Coming of Age film? Am I about to
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  Speaker 4: start watching? Like I feel like I should be hearing
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  Speaker 4: you know, Corey Matthews coming over the voiceover, like it
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  Speaker 4: was the summer of nineteen eighty four.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, I know when when Sean was telling us this
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  Speaker 1: was taking in nineteen eighty one, I felt very old
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  Speaker 1: because that's when I was graduating from high school, or
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty even I was, I wasn't even born. Oh man,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, this is great though. It's a great way
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  Speaker 1: to preserve that technology. Now they don't rent the projector.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to buy this from like what B
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  Speaker 1: and H or something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can buy it from ben H Photo, which
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  Speaker 3: is my go to for pretty much anything we buy professionally.
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  Speaker 3: It's not Amazon. I just wouldn't trust Amazon for I'm
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  Speaker 3: hesitant to trust Amazon for purchases these days.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, especially one of the story of one of the
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  Speaker 1: big stories from today. Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's just you know, and B and H Photo.
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  Speaker 3: They're great, but yeah, it's it's it's kind of a
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  Speaker 3: set and forget right, all right, there's some tweak that
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  Speaker 3: I've made, and I've actually had to go in and
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  Speaker 3: repair the unit myself. So I had some issues with it.
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  Speaker 3: And if somebody wants my how to step by step
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  Speaker 3: guide on how I do it, it's not how you
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  Speaker 3: do it in the guide, it's it's it's the the
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  Speaker 3: real to real part of it. Right. It's got an
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  Speaker 3: arm with the you can put the reel on and
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  Speaker 3: then it's supposed to spin onto the other reel. Right,
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  Speaker 3: so it's supposed to pull the keep tension. That's a
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  Speaker 3: that's a load of crap. That system doesn't work. It's
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  Speaker 3: it's it's it's two motors. Well, so it's it's a
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  Speaker 3: free spinning on on on the feed side, and it's
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  Speaker 3: a it's pulling on the on the on the receive side.
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  Speaker 3: That motor is not strong enough. So as soon as
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  Speaker 3: you get more than two feet of film and it
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  Speaker 3: starts getting tight, it starts to skip, it starts to
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  Speaker 3: it starts to spin, and it starts to the motor starts,
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  Speaker 3: it starts lagging. So what I do is I said,
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  Speaker 3: it's literally sitting right at the edge of the table.
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  Speaker 3: So I've got the feed real and I have it
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  Speaker 3: coming through and I loop it through the guides and
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  Speaker 3: I just let it dump off the edge of the table.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: So it the weight, the weight of the gravity holding
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  Speaker 3: the film down is enough to keep the film tight
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  Speaker 3: in the carriage.
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  Speaker 1: If you have a cat, don't let your cat be
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  Speaker 1: linger you're around, because you will kill the.
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  Speaker 3: Cat would be all over that. But it looks it.
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  Speaker 3: I'll send a picture. It's a big nest of film,
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  Speaker 3: Like I mean, this is I don't know how much,
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  Speaker 3: fourteen minutes of film.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's yeah, it's a lot of film feet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a long it's a long fifty film.
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  Speaker 1: I think fifty feet, if I remember correctly, was on
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  Speaker 1: the small reels, and that's where you got three and
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  Speaker 1: a half minutes. So that kind of tells you a
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  Speaker 1: little bits.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a lot of film, and like
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  Speaker 3: he said, I've been cleaning them. So I've been a lot,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of spooling, a lot of spooling.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I have on now? I might it
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  Speaker 1: might be sixteen millimeter, and I don't know if they
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  Speaker 1: make if Wolverine makes a sixteen millimeter film, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to digital. But I have the original trailer for Star
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  Speaker 1: Wars before it ever hit theaters, before anybody knew. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I on sixteen millimeter and it has a different soundtrack.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: The visual effects aren't put in yet where they're firing
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: the blasters and the lasers. I mean, it was pretty good.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I bought it a science fiction convention back in probably
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, seventy eight. I got a script for
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Star Wars, you know, where it had It had bigs
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: and the different characters that maybe weren't didn't make it
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: fully into the big film. But either way, that sixty
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: milimeter trailer I still have, and the narration of the
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: music was ter It wasn't even the music that you know,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: John Williams music. It was some classical score. But I
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: would love to find a way to get that also transferred,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: so that you know, I would say, okay, I have it.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: It's probably out there on YouTube anyways, but still it
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: would be cool to see.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Well, one of my favorite project was the four K remasters, right,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: if you any of you have gone through the process
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: of trying to find those and download them, they're incredible.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: By the way, it's a hot topic, so I'm not
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: going to discuss how to find those or where to
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: get them. Is this Star Wars. It's the original trilogy.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: It's called Project Night whatever year they will mean nineteen
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: eighty three four K or whatever. And there somebody got
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: a hold of a thirty original thirty five you know whatever,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: the thirty five millimeters original print and remastered it in
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: four K, and it's incredible to see the difference, right
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: because it's all pre special editions, it's all the original
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: film release.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: So if you're a huge Star Wars nut, you can
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: just google it. You'll find it. Go down the rabbit
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: hole if you want Project four.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: K, Project four K seventy seven.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, cool. I'm gonna look for that one. Yeah. I
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: used to love collecting movie trains. I had that one
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: at the car. Do you remember the one with James
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Brolin in the car was like a crazy looking car
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: at the trailer for that.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: A few decades behind us, you got you gotta you
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: gotta bring it a few decades forward.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, Yeah, Young Frankenstein. You ever hear that one?
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I get that one.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: That's a great.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Lindsey hey.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Actually you know with the passing, with the passing, uh
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: not that long ago. Have gene hackmen too. You have
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: to think about that scene in Young Frankenstein with him
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and Peter Boyle as Frankenstein and he plays a blad
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: man right to light his cigar, poor coffee and just
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: completely terrorizing poor Frankenstein.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Where are you gonna go?
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: I was gonna make espresso?
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I remember.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Frankenstein is such a great movie.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: It's it is such a classic. It really anything Melo
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Brooks has done is just timeless. Slee Bulletproof and I
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: saw there was a there's an interview where they were like,
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: what movie did you make that you could never remake today?
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: And they barely got the question up before it was
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: like Blazing Saddles. Yep, absolutely, Like there's no way I
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: could remake that today a chance.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I was really jazzed many many met years ago when
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: we were doing the show. And I don't know if
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: this happens in Palm Springs or it was in Tucson
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: when we first got her, But Burton Gilliam, who was
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: in Blazing Saddles, did the voice work of a character
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: in a game called Redneck Rampage and got him on
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the show to talk about being a voice in a
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: very popular video game. When we got a chance to
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: touch on Blazing Saddles and all that, he was just
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: just one of those crazy characters. But yeah, that was
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: You got any dimes?
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah? More beans, mister Taggert, sa you have had enough,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: all right. Speaking of filmmaking, I had a filmmaker over
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: the other day to the house, one of the producers
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: of a documentary called Ugly Little Monkeys, and it's a
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: true story and it's it's a sadly it's a true story.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: But we were talking about filmmaking and editing over the years,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and he told me about using this program called Da
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Vinci Resolve. And while him and I both came from
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: that same He used Final Cut for a long time,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: got to a certain point in Final Cut and he said,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not using this anymore. And I said, I kind
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: of went through the same thing. Then I used Vegas
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: for a little while from Sony. Then I used you know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Adobe Premiere Pro.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I like doing that.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: He said he liked using Premiere Pro, but he found
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: that with the new version of Premiere Pro, he's just
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: not happy with it. And said, DaVinci Resolved is a
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: completely fantastic program. And I told him I've never really
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: used it. I think I have a cop. I think
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I have a copy when I got my A ten Mini,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: But I'm not sure. What do you think about this, Sean?
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Have you had any thoughts about DaVinci Resolve.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: If if you are a editor, you're already using.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: It, Okay, you're using three three.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: There's three softwares you're using that you should know how
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: to use as a professional video editor. Final Cup Pro,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Adobe Premiere and da Vinci Resolve. That those are the
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: top three, right, There's some other ones in there that
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: you know, they work just as good, but there they
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: cost money. It's it's the whole thing. One of the
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: things don't you go ahead?
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Well, one other things about Premiere Pro. It can be
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: pretty pricey.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: You know, it's a sass. Now, yeah, software is a service,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: like that's the way Adobe went right. So you're you're
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: stuck with the constant updates. You know, if you have
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: auto updates on now you're screwed because your project is
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four and now you're project twenty twenty five.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: The whole thing. We're dealing with that at work because
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: we're an Adobe house at DA Vinci. Resolve has been
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: a huge disruptor in the non linear editing world.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: You had, if you go back a decade even maybe
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: a little bit more, you had Final Cut seven, Final
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: cust Studio, you had Avid Move, you had Avid, you
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: had Adobe, and you had light Works, a couple other
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Sony Vegas, ediis a couple other other other ones in there.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: And then when Final Cut ten came out, a lot
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: of people abandoned ship because there was such a such
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: a Draassic shift, a lot of people fled and they
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: went to the PC market. So Adobe pushed out a
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: MAC version of Premiere because Adobe used to only be
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: PC version. I think back even up until like twenty
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, I'd have
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: to go back in the history of that. But then
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: you had Black Magic Design said, well, we've got our
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: coloring suite called Da Vinci Resolve. Well let's now let's
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: make it into a it's kind of a nonlinear editor.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: And then they kind of tweaked it and made it
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: into a nonlinear editor and it competes. Yeah, it's it's
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: right up there. It's free. That's the biggest one.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Well, if you want the full the full suite apparently
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: that right, but it's still it's still less expensive than
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the others.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: So the free version, it's it has an extensive list
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: of features, right, but it includes their advanced coloring correction.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: That's probably the biggest part of it.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: A lot of people would take their films out of
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: premiere or out of final cut export the xmls, bring
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: them into Resolve just to color correct them and color
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: grade them and then put them back in for finishing.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: There is a studio version of Resolve. It adds a
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: handful of features, advanced noise reduction, higher resolutions and stuff.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the resolution limit is, but it's
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: probably like two ksion. But yeah, it's it's by far
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: probably the best color grading built in caligrading you can
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: you can do with uh professional software.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: To get a copy of this, uh it would be
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a matter of going to black Magic Design and they're
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the people who put this one out, and then you
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: would be able to download the software and and see,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe learn how to edit.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I mean that's yeah, and I mean a lot of
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: people caught onto this because black Magic as a whole.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: You can you can kind of live in a black
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Magic ecosystem, right if you're shooting on their their black
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Magic ursas, their studio cameras, et cetera, et cetera, they can.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: They now have their own raw format, black Magic Raw,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: which is native into results into uh DA Vincial Resolved.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: So just working in their raw format and their software
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: just makes things a lot a lot easier. But I've
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: used it. I'm not by any means of professional on it,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: but I know what it can and can't do. But no,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: for if you're a few want a free, great software
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: to edit movies on, this is this is it. Now.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: It's not gonna run on your rinky dank laptop with
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: eight gigs RAM and a you know, an I three, yeah,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: two duo or something. Right, it's gonna you need something
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: a little substantial with a dedicated GPU, probably sixteen gigs
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: of more RAM, a current ish gen processor maybe five
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: or six years old, you'd be fine.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: But and SSD or M two. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: If you're not, If you're running spinny drives, good luck.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not evenna talk to you. You're still running seventy
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: two hundred rpm drives at this point, you're go back
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: to the final cut studio like five and six.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I've tried editing with those before. All right, listen, we
• 25:41
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• 25:43
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• 25:55
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• 25:56
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• 26:00
  Speaker 4: I know, like kind of at the end of that
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: we were touching a little bit on hard drives for
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: some things. And there's a great listener question kind of
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: in that vein from Albert from Tucson a few weeks ago.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I was listening to the program and you were talking
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: about how the different operating systems have changed. One of
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: the things I very much changed, Albert, You are correct.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: One of the things I remember doing often on the
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: old computer was running something called defragment. I don't see
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: that anymore and wondered if it's still something people do.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Thank Christ, no we don't, So let me give you a.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Can you explain what defragment was for people who know
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: they've heard the term.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: So back on the old spinny drives, you basically was
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: that you had a little spindle on it going back
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: and forth on these platters reading the bits of data
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: that we're in there. And over time, as you would
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: write stuff, delete stuff, move stuff, those little bits of
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: data star being on different locations in the platter, they
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: get spread out and it would increase your your load times,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: your transfer times, because it'd have to go find each
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: one of those individual little spots the data was fragmented.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Defragmenting was the unholy long process. And back when the
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: first time I defragmented, you would put a disc in
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: and boot to it so it would defragment and it
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: would find every one of the and Sean just put
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: it up on his on his screen and I'm having flashbacks,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: not good ones, And it would find all those little
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: sectors and basically kind of like clump everything back to
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: where it was supposed to be, and it would make
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: your computer run better, it would make it healthier. But
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: it could take you. It could take you hours, it
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: could take you days, depending on how much data you had.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: And there was nothing worse than being a kid being like,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go home and play a computer game.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: It's defragmenting. Well, definitely not doing that today.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: And that was one of the things. You couldn't walk
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: away from it. You just have to stare at it
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: and just look at it and watch.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: It and fuel your soul slowly crush.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: So I had somebody explain it in the most simplest
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: terms to me one time. What exactly defragging does, right? Okay,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: imagine you took collected all of your mail from the
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: last year, that's it in the original envelopes, and then
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: you decided to open all those envelopes and throw everything
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: across the room. Yeah, okay, now all your mails spread out.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Now go through the process of putting all that mail
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: back where it belongs.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Right now, what I asked that that made the most
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: sense to me.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: As painful as that sounds, defragging was equally as painful.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Correct, here's one.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Now what I taught. I taught a night class of
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: computer technology to uh, you know, people would come to
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the adult school and I would teach them all about tech.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: And that's when defragmenting was the thing. But I kind
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: of compared it to having a drawer full of socks.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: But the h socks is each sock is different. You
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: have a pair and then you split them up, but
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: every thing is different. You don't have two white socks,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: your two red socks, three blue socks. They're all different.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: You have to try and put them together. And that's
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: basically what it was doing. The problem is that in
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Albert's question, you know, defragment what happened to it is?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Is it something that's not done anymore?
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: It is not done anymore. So defragmenting went away with
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: spinny drives. There was a there's a very short the well,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: not as short as I would have liked, but there
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: was a small overlap period where people would defragment a
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: solid state drive an SSD and defragging an SSD will
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: drastically decrease the lifespan of it. What is done with
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: these new solid state drives, the m DOT two n
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: v ME drives is called trimming and your computer, Thank
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: god Automa does it now.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: It is built.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure it was since I want to say
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: it was either Windows seven or Windows eight point one.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: They basically built it in that it is just an
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: automated task that the computer runs by itself. You don't
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: have to go in and kick it off and do it.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: And it trims and basically says like, hey, these are here,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: these are here, these are here. And because the difference
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: being in a spinny drive, it had to make that
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: change of moving that little piece of magnetic resonance and
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: right to another physical location on the spinny drive. There
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: are no real true physical locations in a solid state drive.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: It's just permanently stored electric memory.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Now, when you have a problem too on a big file,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: somebody had told me if you have big files, because
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: let's face it, we're working with bigger files. Now you
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: got more storage. Bigger files, video files, audio files, photo
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: files that are raw. If it moves something, you could
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: actually break the file.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: It can yeah, it could break and corrupt the file.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: So there there actually were some risks to defragmenting, but
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: it was one of those darned if you do, darned
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: if you don't. You had to do it, and I
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: remember vividly I had finally this was such It was
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: like one of the first first person shooter games I
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: ever played. It was NERF Arena Blast and it was
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: basically like a reskinned unreal tournament for kids, like no
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: blood NERF guns. But I remember like I gotten so
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: far and I'd finally beat this one stage that like
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I had been struggling with, and we defragged the computer
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: and my save file was corrupted.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, have you ran a lot of zips
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: or our archived folders that also would happen to them too,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: They could be and those could be corrupted easier than others,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and some people it's still never been able to get
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: into these files that they may have stored a lot
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: of stuff in and then deleted the originals and then
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: that's that's gone.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: I deleted the originals, all right, Then I defragmented my
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: hard drive. You can stop there. I know how this
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: tragedy ends.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Just now, when it comes to disc utilities though at
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the time that was probably a very useful disc utility.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I know Sean recently took a look at the new
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Windows eleven utility program. Uh, did you get a chance
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: to run that and look more into it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: No, I've had no need, so yeah, I looked at it,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: said well, if I needed, I'll use it.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: But I never was like dis tools or something like that.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: So so I actually have the native one built into
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Windows eleven open right now. If you go in and
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: tight like disc or defrag, it will pull up defragment
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: and optimize drives. Because there are some poor souls out
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: there still running spin so we still have to have
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: the and I don't mean that economically, I feel for
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: your souls. Yeah, but it still has a built in
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: defrag utility. But if you have solid states, it is
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: the optimized drives. And you'll look at the current status
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: and like I'm looking at my Sea drive and it says, okay,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: one day since last retrim, I have rebooted. I've not
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: rebooted my computer since like a little bit over a
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: day ago.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: So it did it.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: On the reboot, it trimmed the drives. Now I can
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: always go in there and be like, hey, I could
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: click right now and be like optimize, But the scheduled
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: optimization drives are being analyzed on a scheduled cadence and
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: optimized as needed frequency weekly and you kind of want
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: to leave that as is, in my opinion, you don't
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: want to get over zealous with that, Like a week
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: is fine, And if you're moving a ton of files
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: and everything around, just just go in there and take
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: a lot. Look. You can click the analyze button be
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: like do I have a problem? Do I need to
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: retrim it right now? But don't run a d frag
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: on an SSD. You will chop a large chunk of
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: a life span off.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, that's a that's good advice. So
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: basically telling Albert, don't worry about.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: It, don't if you don't have a spinny drive, don't
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: worry about it. Those days are gone. They can't hurt
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: you anymore. We're okay, they.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Won't hurt you anymore, because all right, here's one from Roger.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I thought this is a pretty good one, and this
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: could be a good one for Sean to help with
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: as well. Is there a huge learning curve to switching
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to the Apple platform Windows eleven seems like it won't
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: work on my computer. That's a lot of people finding
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: that one out and thought maybe now would be the
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: time to switch. What are some considerations from Roger and Slita?
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: This is this is a loaded question, right, because I've
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: been such a duel user for so long, I don't
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: know what it would be like to jump in. Yeah, first,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: I mean I don't. I would love to tell them
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: there's no learning curve, but I've been using mac oes
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: since I don't know, for a long time. So it's
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: it is a different UI. It is a different system, right.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: It is fundamentally different in terms of how you access
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: your files, where things live, how you open programs, how
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: you download programs, how you install programs, how you function
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: with the Internet is different, unless you like from the
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: get go right. So you can download Chrome and it
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: can you can have your experience being the safe. But
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: if you're not familiar, if you don't know what Safari is,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: you might be up the creek a little bit, right,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: if you've never heard of Safari before, it might be
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: a little intimidating. It's not you know, the South African
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: trip to see the animals, right, It's the web browser
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: that mac comes with, so it's there. If you are
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: an iPhone user or an iPad user, you will have
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: an easier go at getting accustomed or tuned to macOS.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: But if you've never used those before.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: But if you've never used it before, it's you're going
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: to have a learning curve and you are going to
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: get frustrated. And one thing that I've learned about the
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: world that it is right now, people do not have
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: patience for technology.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: No.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: So you know when when Caitlin's parents went to go
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: get their new laptop, right they straight up told me
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: no mac Os or not doing it, because I would
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: have tried to push them onto like like an M
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: two Macair, something a little bit more streamlined, because then
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: for the price of what you're paying for a decent laptop,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: you could potentially get two macwak errors and then they
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: could have each of their own. But they weren't interested
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: in doing macOS at all because they're Android users. They've
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: never used mac os. He my my father in law,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: said straight up, I don't I don't want to learn
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: a new operating system.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Well with so somebody's thinking about this and they're saying, well,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: my Windows eleven computer is or Windows ten is not
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: going to be able to update the Windows eleven or
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: maybe they're still on seven or or something else. Maybe
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: they shouldn't invest in a full on mac book or
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you know, the big Mac system. Maybe get a Mac,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the basic Mac and just to learn it if they
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: want to experience that, or is there any way for
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: them to really so kind of go through that.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: So there there there actually is.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: And this is.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry to jumping on this one, but I I
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: actually used to be a Mac genius working at an
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Apple store in Virginia, right, And one of the things
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: that has kind of fallen by the wayside, at least
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: the last time I was in there of telling people
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: when they would go into that store, into an Apple
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: store to buy a Mac. One of the questions we
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: used to ask was, Hey, is this going to be
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: your first Apple device or is this your first Mac computer?
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: And if they were like, yes, it is. Apple stores
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: offer free classes. You just have to go to the store.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Like each store has their own little website. You know,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: you'll go to Apple dot com, you know, go through
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: find your store. Like for me, probably the closest would
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: be like down at Cherry Creek Mall or something, but I,
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: you know, I want to look and see if this
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: was still something they offered, and it is.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: So.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: They actually have a Getting Started Mac class that runs
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: for an hour and its description is learn the essentials
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: to get the most out of your Mac. We'll start
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: with settings and show you how to navigate everyday futures
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: with ease. Then you'll explore how to customize your Mac
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: so you can work and create the way you want.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: We'll even share our favorite shortcuts for staying organized and
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: fun ways to search with Siri, and then for accessibility
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: for sessions with amplified sound hearing loop technology is available
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: on request. Each store offers these. I think they've kind
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: of reorganized the job titles, but it used to be,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: you know, Mac genius, you were the person behind the
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: genius bar repairing and doing technical support. Creatives were equivalent
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: in technical capability, but theirs was all the software side.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: They had specialized people in Final Cut, in Garage Band,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: in all those programs, and you could register for a
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: class and they could walk you through you know, beginner, intermediate, Advance,
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: and then you also had the specialists, which were you know,
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: your general salesfolk. But you can come in you registers
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: for the class. You bring your device, You'll sit down
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: and they will have a big old screen there walking
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: you through everything so you can do it on yours.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: You can ask questions, go through it. It is the
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: most underrated but beneficial feature that Apple stores offer because
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: these classes aren't just for Mac. They have getting started
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: with Apple Watch, iPad, iPhone. They really want you, like,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: if you're going to spend that amount of money, they
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: I don't want you to hate it. So if you're
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: looking to cut over to the new OS, usually if
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: you take if you take that class, it helps a lot.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: We've also had huge strides and like YouTube and shows
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: that and you know on demand things that can help
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: you there. But in general, what I saw at my
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: time at the store for people cutting over was it
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: took about two weeks to get comfortable with the basics
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: on your own, to kind of get that second nature
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: feel down. And Sean's entirely right. It is an entirely
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: different operating system. At its core, the way it handles
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: programs is vastly different than the way Windows handles programs.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: To go a little technical, Mac is built off of Unix,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: and Unix treats everything like a file. Apps are a file,
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: a printer is a file, a hard drive is referenced
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: as a file. Everything is technically a file.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Wow, all right.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Windows decide to be like, we're gonna make this a device,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: We're gonna make this a folder. We're gonna make that,
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: We're gonna make this easier. And at the end of
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: the day we're like, you didn't make anything easier.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: You just made everything worse. Well, our nearest Apple story
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: is long cantata for those here. Also, I want to
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: recommend there are Apple groups you may find. You know,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: you have an Apple user group in your community. I
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: know that Green Valley Recreation we're in Green Valley. They
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: may have an Apple Users group. They're very helpful. And
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: if you go in there and you see, I'm new,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I just want to check it out. They'll let you
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: come to a meeting you just want to, you know,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: look them up online and be able to get the
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: information on that. So that's also true.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: The most understated resource for this that I especially in
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: today's day and age, you need your support as well.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Your local library.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: There you go perfect.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: If you go to your local library and you ask,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: there might be somebody who's free who will sit and
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: help you with it, or they might have a class
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: that you can go and participate for free with your
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: free library card. Libraries are vastly underrated for the services
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: that they offer, and I know two of the ones
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: near me do offer beginner to intermediate tech classes. Not
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: just like Grandma needs to learn her computer, but like, hey,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: we'll teach you some of the basics of it. So
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: you can see if that's something you like for any
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: age group. So also check out your local library and
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: see if they offer something.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: All right, we're going to take another break. We come
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: back the Gaming Hall of Fame. The Museum of Gaming
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: has put together its list of the inductees for the
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Best Games Ever. They'll be three I guess they'll be inducted.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: We'll go over to the list and find out which
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: ones you think should be in the Hall of Fame.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Coming up with tech Talk Radio. I'm Ady Taylor, I'm
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Sean to Wear It, and I'm Matt Jones.
• 42:51
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• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Now back to tech talk Radio.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: My parents just got a computer. Let me tell you
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: want to lead a stress free life, you don't allow
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: your parents to have anything made after nineteen seventy two.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: Every time I'm home, it's another computer problem. Yeah, it
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: just locked up when I was playing Tetris. It's not Tetris,
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: that's a.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: The fragmentor the year is nineteen ninety eight. You've got
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: four friends, a cardboard box cut in two, so you
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: quad the TV right and you're playing Slappers only.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: GoldenEye No is odd job? Are are we not allowing
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: odd job? Because that's an odd job?
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Because his head's too small?
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: It was the cheat and you started with four friends,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: you might not have ended being friends.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: I brought that up because in the break we were
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: talking about the museum and the National Museum of Plays inductees,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: the nominees for Hall of Fame Video Games.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they do this every year. They put up like
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: and they come up with three out of a lit
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: of a bunch of games to see which one should
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. And I don't know
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: if this list is kind of a little wacky.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: It's kind of all over the place, right gold What
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I was talking about was the Nintendo sixty four GoldenEye
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Double seven, by far, one of the best multiplayer games
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: you could ever play in the history of multiplayer game?
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Did that ever come out ported to anything else?
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's on the switch.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: Oh it's on the Xbox.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it came a ported to the Xbox. It's on
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: the switch. If you have Nintendo Online, go to their website,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: buy the wireless sixty four controllers, get four friends, get
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: three friends plus yourself, and play the ever living crap
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: out of that game.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Is it Pierres President?
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Is that the James Bond?
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: That was his first one. And do you know the
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: craziest thing about goldene which was for the long time
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: the gold standard of shooters.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: The the.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Game developers who made GoldenEye had never made a video
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: game beforehand. And the reason and the reason why they like,
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: there's so many like video games from movies that are
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: just hot, steaming garbage, and this was such a gem
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: because they looked at the movie and they were like, Okay,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: we cannot screw this up, so we are gonna go
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: scene by scene and make that level by level. So
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: they basically just like pourted the movie into a game,
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: and it was for a for a first outing home run,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: brand slam cleared the basis and there was.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: It was rumored that they weren't even going to include
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: the multiplayer on the original. Oh yes, they added that
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: in last minute as like a well, let's just do
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: it and see what happens. And it's it's by far
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: one of the most incredible multiplayer games ever play.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: So you believe this one should be a member of
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: the video name Now.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna quickly just go through the list. Right,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Age Vampires, Solid Game, Angry Birds. Anybody who's played Anger
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Birds is had fun with that. Call Duty for Modern Warfare,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Solid game, Atari Defender never played it, but it sounds good. Frogger.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Everybody knows the the leap frogging game, Get Hit by Traffic,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Old nye, the Golden tea handheld now.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: That played it? That was a golf game, right is
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: a golf game?
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, who hasn't played at least people my age
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: or Andy's age right in the bar?
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yep, right.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Spending six bucks on four holes of game.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I remember the Arcade one. There was a big round
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: ball and you'd have to hit it really fast to
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: you know, take your golf shot. And yeah, never.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Harvest Moon, which this one, based on the picture, looks
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: like the Superintendo version instead of the sixty four version.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: The sixty four version is one of the games I
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: can clearly remember being the first game I ever fell
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: asleep playing mattel Football Handheld, which I believe Matt said
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: in the Breaking add one.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: Of these I did, Oh my god, that that handheld
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: was vastly older than I was.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was nineteen seventy seven that came out.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I remember that, yep.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Then you get into the NBA two K series,
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: which I'm not a basketball fan, but I've been told
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: that the NBA two K series is just awesome. Another
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: one of my favorite multiplayer games Quake, oh yeah, which
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: is just I feel like that's kind of this was
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: a standard for multiplayer for computer players back in the day.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Was that ID software that put that one out?
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Quake put out ID and Quake and Unreal Tournament
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: were some of the first games that actually basically gave
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: birth to what we now consider the Electronic Sports League.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they were some of the first, like actual
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: had competitions, get money, had tournaments, professional players like that
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: one really changed the game.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: And then the last one on the list. I grew
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: up when these came out. I had one. I probably
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: still have it somewhere in my house. Tamagotchi's it was
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: the little pet you had to keep alive. You had
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: and feed it and stuff, and if you had it
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: at school and they got caught with it, they would
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: take it away from you and they would give it
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: back to you the next day and your pet would
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: be dead. You'd feel sad. Yeah, So I don't know
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: that from.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Because the Big Three it was Tamagotchi's Nano Pets and
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Digimon Digitmon. Yeah, though those were the big thory and
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: Digimon was different from them all because you could click
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: them together and make them fight. Oh and a couple
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: of years back they actually re released those and Lee
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: and I were at Game Stop and saw them and
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: just like looked at each other and had one of
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: those immediate silent conversations of like, are are we doing
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: this all? We're doing this and we still have our
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: new Digimon.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Well, only three can be inducted, definitely, GoldenEye, Double seven.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: What else I think Quake should be part of that?
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know. You got to look at it not
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: just from like, okay, I enjoyed these games, but from
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: like a culture phenomenon. Right, Tomagachi's took over everything. Everybody
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: had one that it's like they feel like Tomagachi.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Will go in.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: And then Angry Birds just because it was like one
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: of the first mobile games that really took off.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Everybody played those.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Well, it spawned a whole franchise. Everybody played it a movie.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: So I think it'll be Angry Birds, Tamagotchi, and probably GoldenEye.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to form the dissenting opinion, all right.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Age of Empires changed what a real time strategy game
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: could be.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: True.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: They came out in ninety seven and it's the main
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: competitor at that time. Tage of Empires was the Command
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: and Conquer series and COMM I went back recently and
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: replayed C and C remastered. It's all situational, like, Okay,
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: you've got build a couple of guys, you know, go
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: do this, hopefully they survive. Go take on the force
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: as a NOD because it was the it was the
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: Brotherhood of NOD and the GDI, the Global Defense Initiative.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: I remember that Age of Empires one maybe not might
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: not make it. Empires two has been the gold standard,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: the platinum level of what a real time strategy game
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: could be the next one. I think Call of Duty
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: for Modern Warfare. I remember queuing up outside of my
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: game stop back when we did midnight releases and you
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: can just have it automatically downloaded to your Xbox to
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: get that and that game it came out when I
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: was in college, and it took over every single dorm
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: that I could conceivably go into.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: It certainly did not disappoint.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: It changed first person shooters. The Call of Duty control
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: mapping is now what every single shooter game that comes
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: out uses. True that control mapping is now the golden default.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: And Modern Warfare four because that was the first one
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: where they brought it to the modern age. Previously to that,
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: it was all World War Two and that was the
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: first time where it's like you don't need health packs,
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: you just need to get to cover for a minute
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: and spawn. Now one of the greatest shooter framesranchises in
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  Speaker 4: the history of games, yep. And then you know, honestly,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna revise it. I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 4: Modern Warfare, Golden Eye and probably Froger.
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  Speaker 1: Froger, Oh, Froger, do you remember the Seinfeld episode where George.
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  Speaker 1: George had to replicate the Frogger game.
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  Speaker 3: Babe, do you remember that?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: And he's like uh uh, and then they did the
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  Speaker 4: aerial view of it. Yes, But I mean, Froger was
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  Speaker 4: it was a cultural revolution and there were so many
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  Speaker 4: different versions of it. I remember playing it on the
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  Speaker 4: Atari and like that one like you got hit by
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: the car and it wasn't just a frog splat. It
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: was a frog splat. A little ambulance pulled up and
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: loaded the Frogger into it and drove away.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: It was like, I don't know what you're gonna do
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  Speaker 4: for this frog. He's gone from three D to two D.
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  Speaker 1: But all right, listen, we gotta take another quick break.
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  Speaker 1: But those are the ones. You could see the list
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  Speaker 1: yourself by going to Museum of play dot org.
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  Speaker 3: Scroll down.
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  Speaker 1: You'll see the inductees and you'll see the past ones
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  Speaker 1: as well. I am hoping that Doom is in there,
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  Speaker 1: because if you got Quake in their Doom has to
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  Speaker 1: be in there. That was great.
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  Speaker 3: You might be earlier. I'm going back to the list.
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  Speaker 3: I think Doom's in there.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gotta be all right. We'll be back with
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• 52:34
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back and now back to tech talk Radio.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Hey, this is Dietrich Bader Batman and you're listening to
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: TIK Talk Radio.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: We were just talking about inductees for the Video Game
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. I have to ask you, guys, and
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: I will give mine first, if you want, what is
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: either your favorite game of all time or the game
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: that had the biggest impact on your life. And while
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: while I give you a minutes to think about that,
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: mine is, it's actually a tie, and one of them
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: is very divisive inside of a community. Okay, the first
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: one is an old PS one game called The Legend
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: of Dragoon, and it was the game that actually taught
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: me that a game can truly tell a story with
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: so much depth and emotion. And I see Sean pumping
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: his fist in the air, so I'm not alone in this.
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  Speaker 4: That game sucked me into RPGs for the rest of
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: my life, and the game I played not too long
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: after that still my favorite final Fantasy game of all time.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Final Fantasy eight.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Matt mentioned one of it's not my favorite RBG, but
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: it is. It was my brother's favorite, and he's collected.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: He actually has the three colored disc set.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I still have mine.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: It's not easy to come across now, but my brother
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: played that more than Idea. But that game is incredible.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: It's so so good. Shortly thereafter, in that same timeframe,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: there was a JRBG that came out called sube Codin
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: oh is That is by far my favorite JRPG of
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: all time. Suie Codin two is also very good. They
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: just I just downloaded it last night. They remastered it
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: and released it this past week.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: Oho.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: My brother literally sent me a Discord message last night saying, hey,
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: just sent me a link with this remap. I immediately
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: went and downloaded it on the switch right now. It
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: plays so good on a handheld like I know. I
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: have it on a PS one. I've played through it
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: multiple times. I can go back to my original say
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: files or are still on the memory card. But Suie
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Codin and Suie Coodin two are definitely my top two.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Like JRPG all right.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: For me, I used to go to the arcades, so
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: I remember playing games like Frogger Defender, some of those
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: games Missile Command, which was less so the stand up arcades.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: But my first game on a computer was on an
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Apple two E called Emon Adventure.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: God I've played that.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: It was a text adventure that was my first game.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: It had no graphics in it. You were basically typing
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: move left, you know, go go west, go, You run
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: into this and what do you do? It was based
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: on your responsive based on how you were. So to me,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: that would be an influential game that I certainly remember,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: and it's not as exciting as yours, but it was
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Emon Adventure all right. That wraps
• 55:11
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• 55:16
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• 55:17
  Speaker 4: I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean Weird, and I'm Matt Jones.
• 55:21
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