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FT Postgame Reax: Mariners blast Blue Jays to snatch 2-0 series lead · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: FT Live instant reaction postgame show presented by Fox One.
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  Speaker 1: We have Aeric Kratz and Kevin Plaramscott Braun KP are
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  Speaker 1: more recent former Big leaguer and former Blue Jay watching
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  Speaker 1: this team and doing some analysis for Blue Jay's TV
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  Speaker 1: and not seeing the same team from the Division series.
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  Speaker 1: We want to give a ton of praise to the
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  Speaker 1: Mariners for going through a marathon game five in the
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  Speaker 1: DS and now going up to oh against the Toronto
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  Speaker 1: Blue Jays heading back to Seattle. KP, what are you
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  Speaker 1: seeing in this series after this one was a drubbing.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's more about the Mariners are doing than
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  Speaker 2: the Blue Jays are doing. I think they're staying consistent
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  Speaker 2: with their game plan and what they've always done. I
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  Speaker 2: think this is just a team that everyone kind of
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  Speaker 2: always feared if they got the hitting, the match to
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  Speaker 2: pitching at the pitching match to hitting. This is always
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  Speaker 2: a team people feared if the Mariners were able to
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  Speaker 2: get to the playoffs. This is a type of team
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  Speaker 2: people thought they could be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kratz, go what do you got for me?
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  Speaker 3: Man? Ten to three?
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  Speaker 1: Mariners beat up the Blue Jays. Trey Savage did not
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  Speaker 1: look like the dude who went five and change hitless
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  Speaker 1: against the Yankees eleven strikeouts that last time around. Splitter
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the same. Did you see, like, let's start there,
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  Speaker 1: did you see a Tray Savage that didn't have his
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  Speaker 1: best stuff? Did you see a Mariners team that has
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  Speaker 1: a superhuman named or Hey? Polanco obviously wasn't the only
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  Speaker 1: one to contribute to the ten runs, but he's unstoppable
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  Speaker 1: right now. They're gonna have to figure out how to
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  Speaker 1: circle his name in the lineup card going forward.
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  Speaker 3: What do you got? I mean?
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  Speaker 4: I would say Tray Savage maybe was a little bit
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  Speaker 4: ran into a little bit of bad luck, not getting
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  Speaker 4: on two guys that he struck out. But I think
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  Speaker 4: it's because the Mariners took the opposite approach that the
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  Speaker 4: Yankees took. The Yankees were like, we're swinging, We're gonna
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  Speaker 4: do damage. You say he's unhittable, We're gonna hit Oh shoot,
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  Speaker 4: we struck out eleven times. The Mariners were like, if
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  Speaker 4: it's so unhittable, if we can't hit it, then we
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  Speaker 4: might as well not swing until we see some more pitches.
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  Speaker 4: Take the Julio Rodriguez at bat, he went splitter strike,
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  Speaker 4: splitter strike, didn't even offer at it, and then he
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  Speaker 4: was like, you know what, We'll go back to another one,
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  Speaker 4: and he just ended up being a slow fastball middle
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  Speaker 4: middle of the plate. I think it was eighty eight
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  Speaker 4: or eighty nine, and so I think the approach was
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  Speaker 4: definitely a team approach. They just kind of waited him
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  Speaker 4: out and Doug Eddings wasn't calling very many borderline pitches
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  Speaker 4: and so it didn't go his way. And I think
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  Speaker 4: a lot of things could have swayed a little bit maybe,
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  Speaker 4: And I think the biggest thing would have been maybe
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  Speaker 4: Trey Savage stays in the game and has an opportunity
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  Speaker 4: to get himself out of those jams instead of instead
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  Speaker 4: of the three run homer that Louis Varlin gave up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Trays or sorry, Trey.
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  Speaker 1: Doug Eddings was quite bad this evening, rolling bos strikes.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just the misses for me, it's the timeliness
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  Speaker 1: of the missus KP. I mean, Doug's been around for
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  Speaker 1: a long time, but what did you see there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we we were touching on this in the earlier
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  Speaker 2: show today about umpires. I just think that they're finally
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  Speaker 2: held to like a really high standard and they're expected
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  Speaker 2: to lock it in. I mean, a lot of these
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  Speaker 2: umpires are unplaying games that only people in their local
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  Speaker 2: market are watching. Now this is national TV. We're down
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  Speaker 2: to the final four. There's an over compensation that these
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  Speaker 2: umpires have to make because the whole world's watching, and
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  Speaker 2: they tend to err on the side of small because
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  Speaker 2: they've been so big all year, and it tends to
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  Speaker 2: kind of people tend to make a bigger deal about
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  Speaker 2: the pitches that are outside the strike zone that are
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  Speaker 2: cult strikes as opposed to these borderline pitches or pitches
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  Speaker 2: that just clip the strike zone cult ball. So I
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  Speaker 2: think we're just seeing a huge over conversation from a
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  Speaker 2: group of umpires that don't really have to fully lock
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  Speaker 2: it in every single day during the year, and now
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  Speaker 2: they're held to this higher standard because the whole world's watching.
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  Speaker 3: And pushing forward Kratz.
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  Speaker 1: The Blue Jays are in trouble, the Mariners are forced
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  Speaker 1: right now, they're riding momentum. They're up two to zero
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  Speaker 1: heading back home, and then you light up the starting
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  Speaker 1: staff at home, which we already know about as George
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  Speaker 1: Kirby Game three, matching up against Shane Bieber. Game four
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  Speaker 1: will be Luis Castillo. Game five might be Brian wu
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  Speaker 1: if he's feeling up to it. And depending on where
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  Speaker 1: the series is at, we might not even have a
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  Speaker 1: Game five, And if we have to flip back, then
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  Speaker 1: we'll do that and the starters will be in a
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  Speaker 1: better place. We'd get to logan Gilbert coming off short
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  Speaker 1: rest on having his best stuff. But going forward for
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  Speaker 1: a moment here, how in control are the Mariners. It's
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  Speaker 1: hard to see them suddenly falling in what four out
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  Speaker 1: of the next what.
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  Speaker 3: Does it have to be here? Four out of the
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  Speaker 3: next six or for the next five?
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  Speaker 4: Five?
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  Speaker 3: Right, for the next five.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to see that happening from Seattle, given the
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  Speaker 1: starting pitching staff that they've had that we've talked about
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  Speaker 1: for years, given the bullpen in a really good place.
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  Speaker 1: Not to mention, they barely used any of the big boys.
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  Speaker 1: What three or I think three out of the four
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  Speaker 1: big boys weren't used in this game too because it
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  Speaker 1: was a blowout. And the offense, it's just hard to
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  Speaker 1: see the offense not having some nights where some homers
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  Speaker 1: get bashed, some hit, clutch hits come through. Okay, maybe
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  Speaker 1: you could see the offense quieting a little bit, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just hard to see this team
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  Speaker 1: suddenly falling apart here.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think the game is the game from
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  Speaker 4: here on out. We're not going to have ten three
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  Speaker 4: games most likely. The reason we have those early is
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  Speaker 4: because I think managers kind of stay like, Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna stay with this guy a little bit longer. As
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  Speaker 4: the series goes on, We're gonna have three two games,
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna have four four, three games. We're gonna have
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  Speaker 4: close games because everyone's just gonna blow out their bullpen.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone's going to just use these guys and to me,
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  Speaker 4: one run games at home. The Mariners are even if
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  Speaker 4: the series was tied, they would swing to the Mariners
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  Speaker 4: favor because they're playing the next three at home in Seattle.
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  Speaker 4: Seattle has never been to the World Series. The fans
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  Speaker 4: are gonna be rabid, and I think the team. While
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  Speaker 4: I would have never said this coming into the series,
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  Speaker 4: this team is playing better than the Blue Jays. They
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  Speaker 4: proved it in the first two games. I would I
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  Speaker 4: would have said nobody's playing playing better than the Blue
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  Speaker 4: than the Blue Jays right now, or the Dodgers. We'll
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  Speaker 4: see what happens in the other series. But it shows
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  Speaker 4: you that you come in riding the momentum of a
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  Speaker 4: tough series, which in my opinion, shouldn't have been a
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  Speaker 4: to with the Tigers, and then you come out and
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  Speaker 4: you prove that you're you're dominating your opponent. They're dominating
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  Speaker 4: the Blue Jays right now at their home blue Jays
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  Speaker 4: were fifty four and twenty seven at home. You know
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  Speaker 4: the team that had the second best home record in
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  Speaker 4: the American League, Seattle Mariners, and everybody said it. We
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  Speaker 4: talked to Brent Rooker. I talked to Brent Rooker when
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  Speaker 4: I went to Kansas City earlier this year, and he goes,
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  Speaker 4: do this this bullpen, Oh my gosh, this bullpen's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: And that's if you get past their starters. For the Mariners,
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  Speaker 4: they're just a suffocating rotation to bullpen. That Isn't that
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  Speaker 4: what you need for the postseason? Isn't that what KP said,
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  Speaker 4: That's what we've said for the last two years. Don't
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  Speaker 4: let this team get in. Now you see the Astros.
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  Speaker 4: Let this team get in, and they're two to oh
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  Speaker 4: in the American League Championship. Series.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was the game that Toronto had to have.
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  Speaker 1: KP you had it lined up. I mean, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: You gave up a home run early if you're Toronto
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  Speaker 1: and Trey Savage, but they caught back up.
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  Speaker 3: They tied the game early.
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  Speaker 1: By the bottom of the second inning, we're tied right
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  Speaker 1: with Toronto doing their thing.
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  Speaker 3: Logan Gilbert did not have his best stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree with anything Kratz is saying,
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  Speaker 2: especially the Mariners are just playing better than the Blue Jays.
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  Speaker 2: But I think this series just has funkiness written all
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  Speaker 2: over it. I think everyone would have thought Blue Jay's
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  Speaker 2: at home, you know, having the rest, not having to
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  Speaker 2: come off that emotional series that the Mariners did, going
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  Speaker 2: deep in the game, having their bullpen in shambles, They're
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  Speaker 2: pitching in shambles. It just seemed like it was destiny
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  Speaker 2: that the Blue Jays would win the first two games
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  Speaker 2: at home. They had their Ace and Kevin Gosman. Then
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  Speaker 2: they had Trey Savage, who didn't give up a hit
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  Speaker 2: in his first playoff game. The Mariner's going to beat them.
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  Speaker 2: Now we fly across country, we go to the West Coast,
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  Speaker 2: we go to Seattle, the team that has the second
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  Speaker 2: best home record in the American League. Their pitching plans
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  Speaker 2: are perfectly in line, their bullpen is rested. This just
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  Speaker 2: feels weird to me. This just feels like there's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a series where if you try to predict that
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  Speaker 2: what's gonna happen, if you're betting on the favorites to win,
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  Speaker 2: it just feels weird. And I think the Blue Jays
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  Speaker 2: are not down and out. This is coming from experience
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  Speaker 2: someone that was down two oh in a seven game
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  Speaker 2: series in an ALCS. You go in and you win
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  Speaker 2: the first game, you obviously try to win that second game,
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  Speaker 2: but if you just can figure out a way to
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  Speaker 2: get that series back home, you gotta love getting back home.
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  Speaker 2: So they just got to figure out a way to
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  Speaker 2: win two. They don't have to win all three. I
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  Speaker 2: would feel confident in them coming back three to two,
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  Speaker 2: down three two, back home to Toronto in front of
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  Speaker 2: the best home crowd in baseball, and I mean, from there,
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  Speaker 2: anything can happen. But I don't think they're out. I
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  Speaker 2: just think there's something weird going on this series where
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  Speaker 2: if you try to predict what's gonna happen, the opposite's
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  Speaker 2: gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So we're gonna take a quickie break. It's quick,
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  Speaker 1: and then we'll swing back. We'll look at how the
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  Speaker 1: starting pitching lines up on the Blue Jays side. Will
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  Speaker 1: also highlight how the Mariners offense got the job done tonight,
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  Speaker 1: easily showing off their power.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we're back.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about how Seattle is lined up really nicely
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  Speaker 1: the next few games with their starting staff, which for
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  Speaker 1: years has been, if not the best top two or
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  Speaker 1: three in baseball.
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  Speaker 3: Right KP.
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  Speaker 1: On the Blue Jays side, Shane Bieber was the big
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: hired gun acquired at the trade deadline. Was okay, right
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: against the Yankees you need him, and then probably a
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: Max Scherzer start in Game four. Before you start thinking
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  Speaker 1: about what's next. What do you think of these next
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  Speaker 1: couple games coming up?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I like the Mariners guys better, but I
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  Speaker 2: would have said that about the Blue Jays guys in
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  Speaker 2: the first two games too. I would have liked Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Gosman and Trey Savage. So I don't know what's going
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  Speaker 2: on in the series. It feels weird, but I do
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  Speaker 2: know Shane Bieber has been in this situation before, where
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  Speaker 2: he's been in big games. He's pitching the postseason. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't pitch terribly in New York. He just you know,
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  Speaker 2: he got kind of dinked and dunked a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: His command wasn't the best. It wasn't the sharpest stuff
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  Speaker 2: he had. But what I do know because I watched
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  Speaker 2: it in New York, he's gonna be on a short leash,
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  Speaker 2: especially down two oh, so he's gonna have to show
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  Speaker 2: that he can be very dominant early if he wants
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  Speaker 2: to pitch deep into this game.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe the Mariners are also huffing, puffing crats because they
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: beat Scooble twice.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they won Scooble games twice.
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  Speaker 4: Now they head home four times. It's almost like it's
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  Speaker 4: almost like they go, Okay, well what is your best
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  Speaker 4: pitch or who is your best pitcher? And they're like, well,
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  Speaker 4: we'll get up for this game. Well we'll figure out
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  Speaker 4: how to do this. Like they're a train right now.
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  Speaker 4: And Shane Bieber has the ability to do well. I
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  Speaker 4: just I never, you know, I feel like the Yankees
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  Speaker 4: see bebe really well. So maybe that's not a good barometer,
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  Speaker 4: but he's pitching well. Has he pitched dominantly since his
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  Speaker 4: first outing? Since his first outing with the Jays, has
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  Speaker 4: he been dominant and to me, if he's gonna give
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  Speaker 4: them length because of the hook quick hook, because of
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  Speaker 4: the off day, because of the fact that they're down
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  Speaker 4: too to oh, he's he's got to almost dominate the
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  Speaker 4: first five six innings for John Schneider to say, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna get ninety pitches out of you. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: get eighty five pitches out of you. Because he's gone
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  Speaker 4: to that quick hook keeping his team in the game
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  Speaker 4: and it hasn't worked out so far.
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  Speaker 1: And the weakness for Toronto is their bullpen KP and
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  Speaker 1: it's letting them down so far.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they don't have except for you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe a couple guys in the back end. They don't
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  Speaker 2: have like a ton of swing of miss guys that
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  Speaker 2: you can bring in. And you know, you need to
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  Speaker 2: have guys in the bullpen that have swing a miss
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  Speaker 2: because there's gonna be situations in the game you need
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  Speaker 2: to get strikeouts. And the Blue Jays don't just have
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  Speaker 2: those guys in the bullpen. They are really good when
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  Speaker 2: they can get to a lead, and they cant kind
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  Speaker 2: of mix and match their bullpen and matchup. But when
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  Speaker 2: you're asking those guys to have to cover, you know,
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  Speaker 2: thirteen fifteen, seventeen outs. It gets a little thin, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and that's where the Mariners, you know, like Brett Rooker said,
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  Speaker 2: and I experienced when I was with the Angels, there
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: was always this big talk about the Mariners starting pitching,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for obvious reasons. On any given day, they're
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  Speaker 2: rolling out, you know, a one or two starter legit
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  Speaker 2: starting pitching. But the bullpen was always nasty. You know.
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  Speaker 2: You started that back end with munos and then you
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  Speaker 2: go to even you know, the last guy in their bullpen,
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  Speaker 2: they all have swinging miss stuff, and it's it's it's suffocating,
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  Speaker 2: like Brett Berger said, it's very suffocating. No matter who
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  Speaker 2: comes out of that bullpen, it's stuff. It might not
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  Speaker 2: be the best pitch ability, but it's stuff. And at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, stuff plays.
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  Speaker 1: So the game was decided in the fifth inning, right
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  Speaker 1: you savage pitching.
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  Speaker 3: Vilo is down a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: You get an infield single and a bad throat from
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  Speaker 1: Jimenez and then they intentionally walk cal Raley and they
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: bring in Louis Arland. He strikes out Julio Rodriguez. I
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  Speaker 1: think that pitch was center cut fastball and then and
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  Speaker 1: that's okay. I mean, Louis Arland throws hard. But here's
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  Speaker 1: my question for UKP. I don't know if you've faced him,
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  Speaker 1: but you certainly have faced many guys that look like
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  Speaker 1: Louis Arland in terms of stuff out of the bullpen.
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  Speaker 1: Where Hey, Polanco, you know, hits a three run home
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  Speaker 1: run on a fastball that caught the middle of the plate.
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  Speaker 1: Are you seeing too much of that from Loui who's
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  Speaker 1: giving up some big home runs. You look at him
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, on the outside, this looks really good.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's pumping heat. He can strike guys out, but
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  Speaker 1: he's also giving up big hits, including big homers.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that would be a better question for Kratz.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he he's the catcher, he's got the better view.
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  Speaker 2: But my question to Krats he would be you have
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  Speaker 2: the big arm and the big stuff, but at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, flyball pitcher, right, that's a situation
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  Speaker 2: where you maybe when you have first and second economically,
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to get a sinker baller in there, someone
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  Speaker 2: that used really hard to get the ball in the air.
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  Speaker 2: You try to get those two outs on one swing
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  Speaker 2: and then you just do what you got to do
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  Speaker 2: to get the last guy out. But bringing in a
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  Speaker 2: fly ball pitcher who also has some swinging miss stuff
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  Speaker 2: is kind of a risky play right there. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what Kratz thinks. You know, as a catcher, you
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  Speaker 2: know you have some confidence when you know this guy's
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  Speaker 2: got like a sinker that's hard to get in the air.
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  Speaker 2: You feel like you can get two outs on one
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: swing of the bat. Kind of lowers the temperature in
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: the room. You know, runner at third base with two
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: outs feels a whole lot different in it inning.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: To me. Besides, besides Hoffman, Louis Varland's the guy you're
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: going to. So we're talking about this because what Scott said,
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: that was the game he comes in, slams the door.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: That game might swing in the mariners favor, but he didn't,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: and he has given up some big homers. To me,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: they are it seems like hitters are not surprised when
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: he starts that splitter and it runs way off the
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: plate like they're not even it's not even like a
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: like a close take, and they're on his one hundred
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: miles an hour now. Obviously one of his home runs
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: was against Judge, which was ridiculous that he hit that.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: But for me, Louis Varlan's he's getting there's he's getting
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: a lot of contact out front for one hundred miles
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: an hour. You need to get some guys that are
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: that are taking the opposite field, like taking you out,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: because you're going elevated up in a way and they're
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: taking you out. To me, he's the he's either showing
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: them something, he's tipping something, or he's not moving their
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: feet enough. And he has to do that because if
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: this series goes past five games, however many games it goes,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Louis Arland's gonna be in there. John Schneider is proven,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: he is not going down without Louis Arland pitching. Jeff
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Hoffman didn't pitch. He's your closer. Louis Arlan's what I
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: would call your secondary closer in the situation in the lane,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: he's the guy. He is the guy they want Julio
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: to face. He's the guy they want to turn Jorge
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Polanco around. And it didn't happen again tonight. And when
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: you're in those spots, you're gonna have to set a precedent.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: The next time you come in to me. If he
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: backs Jorgey Polanco off the plate, I think he's cooked.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I think jorgees cooked because he can't lean out over
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: that fastball was kind of it wasn't middle middle, it
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: was a little middle away, and you can't let guys
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: get that much extension on you. One hundred mile an
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: hour heater.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it also looks like Mike Cratsy's saying, a guy,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: those one hundred miles an hour guys are just cheating
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: to the fastball. I mean, they're not respecting his secondary pitches.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's got to come in and almost pitch backwards
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: a little bit to try to get the guys off
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: the fastball. And you know, knowing the both hitting coaches
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: that are in Seattle, I had them in Atlanta, and
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: you know they're they're good at preaching that those little
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: fine details of you know, hunt the pitch that you
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: feel like you can do damage on, kind of eliminate
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: the other pitches. He hasn't really shown the ability to,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: you know, land the secondary pitches or throw them consistently
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: throughout the bat. He might show you that get me
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: over one early, but is he going to go to
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: it again and again. Ultimately, he wants to get back
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: to the heater, and I respect him for it because
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: if I had a triple digit heater too, I'd want
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: to show it off too. But also to krats point,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: you know, when guys are getting out in front and
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: leaning out over the plate, you got to move their feet.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: You got to show them something. Get get up a
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: little high and tight, you know, move their feet a
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: little bit, make it a little bit less comfortable, because
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: facing one hundred miles an hour should never be comfortable.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: And he's pitched in every game so far in the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: playoffs for Toronto, six games. Yeah, they're going to keep
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: throwing them out there. I mean, hindsight blah blah blah.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: But if you're a Toronto fan right now, you're like,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: damn it, I wish we went the extra mile and
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: got ourselves the Duran somebody else, even if they got
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: to Ireland right like, they could use another high leverage
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: guy right now.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean everybody.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Anthony demingis too. They got Sir Anthony down there too,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: and you know he's typically their eighth inning guy, you know.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: To Cratzy's point, louis just kind of I think the
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: team knew what they were getting. I don't think baseball
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: really knew much about Louis Arlin. You know, he was
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: kind of hitting an organization that you know, maybe you
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: hadn't seen him pitch a lot. You know, when I
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: saw the move, I'm like, oh, does that really move
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the needle? And then you watch him pitch, and the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: guy is legit. You know, he's earned the right to
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: kind of be this fireman. You know when at the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: highest leverage of the game, whether that's in the fourth inning,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: the eighth inning, somewhere in between, then you're going to
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Louis Arlin and to your point, yeah, he's giving up
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: some home runs. You know, you could kind of even
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: eliminate the one to judge that was just a ridiculous
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: That was judge just being judged. He did give up
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the homer to Jazz, you know where it was kind
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: of a fastball that kind of leaked over the plate.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: But you know, I think both of our points about
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: having to move the guy's feet make him feel a
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: little bit more uncomfortable, but also being able to kind
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: of maybe pitch backwards for a little bit, trust the
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: secondary stuff to at least steal a strike. Maybe a
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: second strike and then try to elevate the heater up
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: out of the zone. Try to speed people up a
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: little bit, because people don't look like they're sped up
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: on his fastball right now.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, on the Seattle side, Bizarto is a huge factor
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: for them.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Now, and you're just a guy that you can add
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: to the circle of trust. So it's it's a special
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: group here going for Seattle. I mean Bizardo, obviously, Muno
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Sprash like They've got some big boys that are getting
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the job done. Also, I mean some guys you go
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: through hot stretches, cold stretches, and that happens to hit
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: at the right or wrong time. And right now in
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the postseason, Seattle's got it going with their So let's
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: do final thoughts here, KP.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: The Blue Jays come back.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: If I think the Blue Jays come back, if they
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: take a recipe out of their book from the first
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: series and score early, score first, score early, try to
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: silence the crowd and Seattle it's going to be a
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: very rowdy crowd. But what people who haven't played for
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the Blue Jays don't understand and maybe have an experience
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Seattle for a long time was considered Toronto West coast,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: you get a lot of that influx of people from
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the West coast to Canada come down. So that's something
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be interested in seeing because there was
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: days I went there for batting practice and there might
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: be twenty thousand Blue Jay fans there watching practice. It
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: was maybe their only opportunity to watch their beloved Blue
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Jays come remotely close to them on the West Coast,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: and they would come down. How Seattle kind of trait
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: maybe is try to counteract that with ticket sales, maybe
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: not selling tickets across the border to be seen. But
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I think the Blue Jays have to score in that
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: first inning like they've done, like they did in the
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Yankees series. Silence the crowd, get a couple shut down innings,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: get that kind of momentum back, get that confidence back,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: and I think they'll be Finekratz.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I'll go the other way unless you've got something strong
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: on Toronto. The Mariners sweep.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: If he keep doing what they're doing, the Mariners sweep
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: if the blue Jays bats don't wake back up. Really,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's how the Blue Jays got
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: to where they were. They gave him a lot of runs.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Everybody remembers Game three when John Schneider just orchestrated this beautiful,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: beautiful nine pitchers, nine innings type of game. But the
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: reality is the Blue Jays got where they were because
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: they were banging. They were hitting dingers, they were getting
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: on base. Blue Jays don't hit, they get swept.
• 24:02
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