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The Wuhan Coronavirus Conspiracies · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Destroy Winter Insurance did Detroit. I'm a checkup wanted at
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  Speaker 1: your FISA.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show. I'm Adam Todd
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  Speaker 2: Brown and I'm Fizzas and we are your hosts this week. Fizzle,
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  Speaker 2: welcome back. It's been a while since you have co
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  Speaker 2: hosted an episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy to be back. I'm happy to be
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  Speaker 1: uh virus free. I did get the flu at the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the last month. Oh wow, and I was
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  Speaker 1: down for two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I was getting something, but I think I
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  Speaker 2: was just tired. Okay, so far, despite having to interact
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  Speaker 2: with so many people who go so many different places,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't been sick this season.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like so many people have more than usual.
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  Speaker 2: I am going to wu Han next week. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's really cheap to go there. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, you've had good luck so far.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe your streak will continue.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, flights dirt cheap. No, I'm definitely not. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he can even fly there right now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. They have like several I think regions quarantined.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all around China there are quarantines in place.
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  Speaker 2: There are businesses that are shut down we did an
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  Speaker 2: episode of Pretty Scary. By the time this goes up,
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  Speaker 2: that will have been a couple weeks ago. That's a
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  Speaker 2: little more informational based than what this is going to be.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's really causing a lot of goddamn panic
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  Speaker 2: in China. Yeah, and it should be causing panic in China. China. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that people should be getting as panicked
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  Speaker 2: or racist as they are in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: And Canada, but right now that's standard standard response from America. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know, what maybe has sort
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  Speaker 1: of fanned the flames of the story is that this
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  Speaker 1: has been a very aggressive flu season here in the
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  Speaker 1: United States. And yeah, I think this year's flu vaccine
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  Speaker 1: maybe they estimated the wrong virus like Type A would
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  Speaker 1: be more prominent in the first half of the season,
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  Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, the vaccine is not great this season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the first year in a long time
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  Speaker 2: that I didn't get a flu shot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't get a flu shot. But this is
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  Speaker 1: the first time I've gotten the flu in a long time.
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  Speaker 2: So can you normally get them randomly, like, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, if I'm a pharmacist and they're like free flu
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  Speaker 1: shot and if I have some time, I'll be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but this time I didn't, although I it wasn't well,
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  Speaker 1: although you know what I feel like still getting exposed
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  Speaker 1: to that would because my flu. I was very sick. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was like, I think the first three
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  Speaker 1: days were just Yeah, first three days I couldn't really
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  Speaker 1: move much or do anything. And then I felt you know,
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  Speaker 1: I still felt sick for a week, and then the
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  Speaker 1: week after that, I didn't feel ill, but I felt
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fatigue. Yeah, so it's sort of like
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't really push myself. That's a long time to
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  Speaker 1: be sort of.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I've heard from a few different people that
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  Speaker 2: it was especially rough this year. Yeah, so I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: I haven't gotten it so far. Thank you for not
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  Speaker 2: recording with me while you were sick.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I don't want to be a bioterrorist.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you are if you show up to
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  Speaker 2: work sick people.
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  Speaker 1: I did once. I went to one show and then
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  Speaker 1: immediately I was like, I can't do this, this is
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  Speaker 1: not Yeah, and I cancelled every other show. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's but also like I didn't really I hadn't had
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  Speaker 1: the flu in so long I didn't recognize it as
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  Speaker 1: the flu like I thought. I thought I was hungover
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  Speaker 1: and got it cold.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know. So, yeah, that's that's how it'll
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  Speaker 2: spread here. Open mics and la bar shows things.
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  Speaker 1: But if anyone's worried about the coronavirus, like throughout all
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  Speaker 1: the microphones.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, including these. Yeah, but it's so far, there's only
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  Speaker 2: as we're recording this, I think eleven cases in the
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  Speaker 2: United States. What is crazy is that pretty scary episode
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  Speaker 2: that I just mentioned. We just recorded that on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: and by the time we're recording this now, the number
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  Speaker 2: of deaths has gone up by like three hundred I think.
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  Speaker 2: And it was only three hundred and sixty is.
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  Speaker 1: Our deaths from coronavirus?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the depth count was around eighty.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's the thing. It's going up exponentially every day.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And yeah, because the article is mentioned, I think
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  Speaker 1: the debt one of.
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  Speaker 2: The Yeah, so the some of the article that are
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  Speaker 2: a little older. Yeah, and by a little older, we
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  Speaker 2: mean like two days, two or three days. But that's
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  Speaker 2: how fast this is spreading in that particular area. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And if they can keep it contained to China. That'll
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  Speaker 2: be good, but it maybe they can't do they even.
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  Speaker 1: Have the healthcare available to deal with it. Sounds like
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  Speaker 1: a crisis there.
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  Speaker 2: It is a super duper crisis. They have drafted fourteen
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  Speaker 2: hundred doctors and healthcare practitioners out of the Chinese military
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  Speaker 2: and they have them working only on the coronavirus. They
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  Speaker 2: built a hospital that holds eleven hundred people yeah in
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  Speaker 2: ten days, oh my god. Uh. And then another one
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  Speaker 2: that holds thirteen hundred people is going to be finished
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  Speaker 2: later this month. So they're doing a lot to try
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  Speaker 2: and contain it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, how do they I'm always curious how
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  Speaker 1: the healthcare providers protect themselves because they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: just this exposure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing they have to. If you're treating
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  Speaker 2: someone in quarantine, you have to kind of be quarantine yourself,
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  Speaker 2: and you have to when you go in to interact
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  Speaker 2: with them. I'm assuming you have to be all fucking
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  Speaker 2: has matted up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was curious because I know here, you know, people
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  Speaker 1: are like you know, doctors are around sick people all
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  Speaker 1: the time and they aren't has mated up, and they're
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  Speaker 1: around like you know, the regular flu is very contagious.
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  Speaker 1: There's something called a bone breaker of flu. Another comedian
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  Speaker 1: told me he had and it felt like his bones
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  Speaker 1: were breaking when he walked. Oh, and he had to
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  Speaker 1: walk to a clinic for you know, yeah, because he
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to feel like that anymore. And then when
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  Speaker 1: he got to the clinic, the doctors would not come
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  Speaker 1: in the room. They threw his prescription at him because
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  Speaker 1: there was such a contagious, awful, fucking flu. And do
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  Speaker 1: you blame.
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  Speaker 2: Them, Oh, yeah, of course not.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how they nixed.
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  Speaker 1: His bill also because they felt bad about it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 1: But it's you know, like it's they're pretty courageous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The people who have been quarantined in the United States,
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of them are just being quarantined
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  Speaker 2: at home. There's a husband and wife in San Francisco
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  Speaker 2: that got it and they're just at home and they
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  Speaker 2: can't leave, but.
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  Speaker 1: They're making sure they don't leave. The government they have
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  Speaker 1: people posting outside probably.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's so scary about bioterrorism. Is it just like you
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  Speaker 1: can't really see it coming.
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  Speaker 2: No, And that's that's one of the concerns, is biowarfare.
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  Speaker 2: Is that this is actually a bio weapon that was
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  Speaker 2: created by take your pick. When it comes to the countries,
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  Speaker 2: the first obvious one that people are talking about is China.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the thing about the theory that this is a
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  Speaker 2: bio weapon made by China, for one thing. It all
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  Speaker 2: kind of starts with an article on a right leaning
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  Speaker 2: website called The Washington Times, which is very easy to
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  Speaker 2: confuse for the Washington Post if you're just scanning through headlines,
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  Speaker 2: and they interviewed this former Israeli military officer who was
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  Speaker 2: talking about this place called the Wuhan Institute of Virology,
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  Speaker 2: which is a real place, and it's in It's in Wuhan, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: and it's China's most advanced biological research lab according to
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  Speaker 2: that article.
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  Speaker 1: I don't it's in the city of origin right of
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  Speaker 1: this particular coronavirus, which is actually they're calling it the
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  Speaker 1: novel coronavirus, meaning new coronavirus. And then there's some number.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the thing about Wuhan or Wuhan, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's Wuhan.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But like as ignorant Americans, we tend to hear things
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  Speaker 2: like disease that started in bats and spread through a
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  Speaker 2: meat market and think that this is happening in some
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  Speaker 2: small isolated town. Wuhan is huge. It's the biggest city
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  Speaker 2: in Hubei Province. Population is eleven million people.
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  Speaker 1: That is huge.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the seventh most populous city in China.
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  Speaker 1: And the most populous country.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and the most populous in I believe, Central China.
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  Speaker 1: This is a huge metropolitan area that's affected.
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  Speaker 2: It's a huge place. So, yeah, people do a lot
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  Speaker 2: of business in Wuhan, and that's how all of the
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  Speaker 2: cases that have happened here, it's been people who've traveled
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  Speaker 2: there and came back here. And so that this theory
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  Speaker 2: is that what this Israeli intelligence agent was pushing in
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  Speaker 2: this article, he wasn't really even pushing this theory. What
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  Speaker 2: he he said is that this Wuhan Institute of Virology
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  Speaker 2: could be part of China's biochemical warfare program, which is
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  Speaker 2: a thing that we don't even know for sure exists,
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  Speaker 2: but he says he has studied it and that it's
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  Speaker 2: a real thing, and that this.
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  Speaker 1: The program is a real thing. The program is a
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  Speaker 1: real thing because it's factual that the institute exists, right,
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  Speaker 1: the Institute for Research, Right, But yeah, the biowarfare is
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  Speaker 1: a very charge term like that name sounds weapons, sound scary.
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  Speaker 2: But those are the these are the companies that make
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  Speaker 2: vaccines and shit. Yeah, so of course they're going to
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  Speaker 2: have access to these viruses. And his he doesn't even
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  Speaker 2: say that this company is directly involved in that. He
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  Speaker 2: says there's a chance that they could be at some point,
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  Speaker 2: or maybe they are now to some small extent, but
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  Speaker 2: not publicly involved with this bioweapons program. And then he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't explicitly say that it came from them. What he says,
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  Speaker 2: and it kind of speaks to your question about medical
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  Speaker 2: practitioners and how they deal with these patients. Sometimes, if
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  Speaker 2: you're working in one of these labs that deals with
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  Speaker 2: these viruses, you can accidentally get infected or contaminated in
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  Speaker 2: some way and make it out the door without realizing it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and now you've spread it in a day.
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  Speaker 1: Happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And all he was saying is that could be
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  Speaker 2: what happened. And if that's the case, I don't care, like, well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not like malicious intent, that's not diabolical, that's
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  Speaker 1: a that's an accident, because I mean, it's you can't
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  Speaker 1: see these things with your bare eye, how would you know?
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  Speaker 2: Right? And what that turned into is this right wing
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  Speaker 2: website called zero Hedge, which is like a financial website,
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  Speaker 2: but they also post a bunch of right wing conspiracy theories. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: pick a fucking lane. They they published the name of
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  Speaker 2: a scientist who works at Wuhan Institute of Virology and
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  Speaker 2: basically said, this is the guy who started Wuhan coronavirus,
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  Speaker 2: and they posted like his address and phone number and
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  Speaker 2: shit on Twitter. Got permanently banned from Twitter for doing it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but once it's out there, it's out there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, now the guy is at risk.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And the reason they singled him out is
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  Speaker 2: there's an article out there from like twenty thirteen that
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  Speaker 2: just said he was studying bats to find out why
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  Speaker 2: they don't ever get sick from coronavirus. But that's also
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  Speaker 2: what someone who was researching a vaccine would do, Like
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  Speaker 2: that's how you create vaccines. You find the thing that
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  Speaker 2: causes it and kind of reverse engineer from there.
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  Speaker 1: So there really wasn't much proof.
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  Speaker 2: It was just no proof.
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  Speaker 1: It was yeah, so no proof, and they just put
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  Speaker 1: that basically tried to ruin a guy's life.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, which they deserve to get banned from Twitter for that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the name of that Israeli intelligence officer was Danny
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  Speaker 2: show him. That's not me doxing him. His name is
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  Speaker 2: in the fucking article.
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  Speaker 1: I've thrown him under the bus.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, this was his his address out there.
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  Speaker 2: This is where you can find him tomorrow at two pm.
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  Speaker 2: This was his exact quote. In principle, outward virus infiltration
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  Speaker 2: might take place either as leakage or as an indoor,
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  Speaker 2: unnoticed infection of a person that normally went out of
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  Speaker 2: the concerned facility. This could have been the case with
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  Speaker 2: the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but so far there isn't
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  Speaker 2: evidence or indication for such an incident. So he even
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  Speaker 2: ends his own statement about it by saying, there's no
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  Speaker 2: evidence that what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: This is not the guy who released the address, is it.
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, it sounds like I mean, that sounds
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  Speaker 1: pretty reasonable. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like he was probably almost kind of cornered
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  Speaker 2: into saying yeah, it's a possibility. Yeah, and then they
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  Speaker 2: latch onto that and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like pushing him to get the quote.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the the other weird thing about the Wuhan
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  Speaker 2: Institute of Virology. There was this meme going around. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if you saw this. I put it in
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  Speaker 2: the notes kind of late. But do you ever play
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  Speaker 2: Resident Evil?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: I don't either, but I know it's a video game.
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  Speaker 2: And at the center of that video game is this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's move there's movies. The Umbrella Corporation is the evil
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  Speaker 2: corporation at the center of the Resident Evil universe. And
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  Speaker 2: this meme went around showing that the Wuhan Institute of
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  Speaker 2: Virology has the exact same logo.
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  Speaker 1: Is a see conspiracy?
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  Speaker 2: Can you deal with that?
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  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't because all the conspiracy theories who
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  Speaker 1: are listening to this, they are all just like, like
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  Speaker 1: very turned on right now. I'm kind of turned on
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  Speaker 1: by it as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well. The problem with this meme and oh and the
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  Speaker 2: other thing in the Resident Evil universe, the Umbrella Corporation
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  Speaker 2: unleashes a virus in a town called Raccoon City.
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  Speaker 1: So how can all these secret societies love putting their
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  Speaker 1: symbolism everywhere exactly? It's sort of like a serial killers
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  Speaker 1: want trophies.
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  Speaker 2: And the thing about Raccoon City, Raccoon is an anagram
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  Speaker 2: for Corona, so that has also got people all in
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  Speaker 2: a tizzy. The problem with that logoe it is not
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  Speaker 2: from the Wuhan Institute of Viral You can even see
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  Speaker 2: the actual name of the place written in English underneath
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  Speaker 2: all of the Chinese characters. It's a place in Shanghai propaganda. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's a it's just factually inaccurate. It's a completely
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  Speaker 2: different places logo. And they're saying it's the Wuhan Institute
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  Speaker 2: of Virology because it makes for a fun meme that
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  Speaker 2: scares people.
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  Speaker 1: But it is a fun meme. It is like, I yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's irresponsible to it's I mean, it's very irresponsible and reckless.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it would be fascinating if they did
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  Speaker 2: have the same logo and all those similarities were there.
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  Speaker 1: What a great story, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Raccoon and Corona they're still anagrams. So
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  Speaker 2: good luck fighting back against that truth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's proof right there. That is proof because in
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  Speaker 1: the in the Corona pudding, Uh, oh my god. This
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  Speaker 1: is everyone's really like, really, isn't a tizzy about this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And I don't, And I think it's because it's the media.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's this reminds me of the bird flu.
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  Speaker 1: This reminds me of stars like right when everyone was
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  Speaker 1: freaking out and yeah, it's horrible, but like most you know.
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  Speaker 2: Most people aren't gonna get it are exposed to it,
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  Speaker 2: especially here. Yeah, but it's I mean, it's cause for
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  Speaker 2: concern if it does get here.
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  Speaker 1: I think it is, but not to a point where
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: people are asking if they shouldrub bleach on their skin. Right,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: that will also fuck you up, right.
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  Speaker 2: And those are we're going to get in that. There's
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  Speaker 2: kind of two classes of conspiracy theories that have sprung
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  Speaker 2: up around this. There's where it came from and then
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  Speaker 2: the things you can do to prevent it, and they're
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  Speaker 2: both insane. Well not actually, the theories about where it
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  Speaker 2: came from are almost less insane, but not really.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's it's when people put a motive
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  Speaker 1: to it. So you know, there's a big difference between
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  Speaker 1: a leakage of something that you know, viruses are harder
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  Speaker 1: to contain than horses, right, so you know it's that
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  Speaker 1: versus you know, this was injected into the population to
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  Speaker 1: kill you know, a city off and make this country
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  Speaker 1: less dense or whatever, you know, whatever the motive there is,
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  Speaker 1: So like those are two very different things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and we're seeing all of it. Yeah, with
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  Speaker 2: these conspiracies. The next one China stole it from Canada,
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  Speaker 2: And this one is just kind of pure fantasy. It
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  Speaker 2: started with an article on a bullshit news site called
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  Speaker 2: Great Game India, which that is quite a title. Their
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  Speaker 2: argument is that Chinese intelligence infiltrated the National Microbiology Laboratory
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  Speaker 2: in Winnipeg. They're basing this entire theory on this twenty
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  Speaker 2: thirteen article about the National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg looking
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  Speaker 2: into a bunch of coronavirus outbreaks in Saudi Arabia. And
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  Speaker 2: what a lot of these stories and articles either don't
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  Speaker 2: realize or are intentionally leaving out is Coronavirus is a
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  Speaker 2: term that covers a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 1: It's a large family of viruses that can range from
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  Speaker 1: a common cold to obviously whatever is out right now
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  Speaker 1: than novel coronavirus everyone's freaking out about now.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's SARS was a coronavirus. MERZ, which is Middle
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: East respiratory syndrome, was a coronavirus. You get your common
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: colds from coronavirus. So the fact that this lab was
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: actually working on Merz. Yeah, that's it was outbreaks in
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia. So they're just kind of taking the fact
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: that the the word coronavirus is in this article from
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: twenty thirteen and going what if China stole it from Canada.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: So they're using this buzzword to create drama, right when
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: thinking out of context.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when the fact is Canada didn't have this strain
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: of coronavirus. That's not what they were working on. So
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that one's stupid. It's a bio weapon created by the
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: United States. This one comes from Russia. Yeah, and this
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: is it's stuff like this that make me so angry
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: when people are like stop seeing Russia in everything. It's like, motherfucker,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Russia has been in everything forever.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just sort of there, like the nosey.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Anir Yeah, like it's what they're like a stalker, Like
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: they're just always in the background fucking with you in
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: some way.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: The face app yeah, where everyone was like, yeah that
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: filter to make everyone look very old, like this is
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: what you look like when you're ninety.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that won't come in handy in the future
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: for country that might want to make fake videos of you,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: like my God and they're doing the same thing now
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: with coronavirus. There's two different articles.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Time on their hands.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe Yeah, it's I mean, it's their preferred method of
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: fighting wars Inanda, intervening in country's affairs as propaganda.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: You know what, it's it's less bloodshed, yeah, I mean, yeah,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: it's still obviously causes a lot of chaos.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we should just there should be no more real wars.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: We should just have flame wars. Remember those? Yeah, you
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: know what happened to flame wars?
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Use your words? Yeah, did your ideas?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I guess that's I guess that was the Cold War though,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: now that I think about it, Yeah, just a different term.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Those boomers called it Cold war. We called them flame wars.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: So there's two different articles where this started. One claim
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: that we launched the virus in China because we're losing
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: billions of dollars in our trade war and want to
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: undermine their country.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: That's evil.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: That is evil, and the coronavirus is definitely going to
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: impact their economy in a really bad way. But there's
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: no actual evidence.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: So they are building hospitals. Yeah, and and I'm probably
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: probably you know, giving like there's probably lunch job opportunities
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: for doctors and healthcare providers.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the rest of like, yeah, the.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Rest of it, No one's like going to the movies.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And well, a big part of their business or a
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: big part of their economy is small and medium sized businesses.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And most of those, unless they're like a small pharmacy
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: or something, are have been like ordered to shut down. Yeah,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: so they there was this New York Times article where
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: they interviewed a guy who uh sells chickens and and
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: he's like, not only can I not sell my chickens
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: right now, but the company that I buy feed from
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: so my chickens stay alive can't sell me feed. So
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna lose everything.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: So it's just this domino effect of yeah, nothing being
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: available and everyone sort of fit this stay out. I mean,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: if there if they are these huge quarantines, you know,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: you can't really get well.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: The government won't let him sell anything, like the government
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: ordered those businesses to be shut down, so he has
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: no income, right, And it's uh, it's gonna fuck with
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: China's economy quite a bit because that's a big, big
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: part of their economy. So I understand why people would
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: think the United States would want to introduce something like
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: this into the population to help us win a trade war,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Like that's really harsh.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: It's a I mean, it is some evil shit.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And we did recently sign a trade deal with China.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: It's ruthless.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's when we did it, signed the trade deal,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: got a little coronavirus on the tip of the pen
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and jab them in the arm. Trump, did it? Trump?
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Spread the coronavirus?
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: You planted it on the pen? Will Yeah, they dipped
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: it in the coronavirus, signed it.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: So I get why people think we would want to
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: wreck China that way, but I just I'm I'm willing
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: to see the evidence. Yeah, I mean, there isn't.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Any I mean, that's one way to look at it.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Fucking up there. Shit, Well, you know, could quote unquote
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: help us, but it's you know, that's.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the thing is China that that take is
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: assuming China is doing really well in that trade war
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: and they're not like it's hurting China too. That's why
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: we signed a trade deal, Like that's you sign that
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: deal when both sides agree that the war is over. Yeah,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: and there's still like a trade war going on, but
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: there's just no proof that we created this and send
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: it to China, especially when you take into account that
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: it's coming from this was coming from an actual Russian website.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: It's a juicy story though, Oh yeah, for sure, and
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: tell your grandkids about it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: But there's an example of Russia having done this in
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the past, and it's very similar. It was called Operation Infection,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: except infection with a K, yeah, because it's Russia, and
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: this was a propaganda campaign carried out by Russia starting
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty three with the intention of spreading the
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: idea that the United States created the AIDS virus and
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: spread it on purpose.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I've heard of this. I didn't realize
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: it even stemmed from Russia or did it stem from Russia?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Because it also it is interesting to think about how
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: HIV was you know, it is something that can be
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: spread amongst heterosexual like couple sex partners. But why was
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: it so much in the gay community. Why was it
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: so much in the hood? You know, why didn't you
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: see this in the suburbs? Yeah, you know, why weren't
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you know, your average you know, straight dudes concerned about this.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: So it's it is interesting which populations it affected.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a comedian I feel like I don't
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: even want to name him, even though it was on
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: my podcast. Yeah, and he had gone to the doctor
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: and just for like a routine thing, and he was like, uh, oh,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: should I get an AIDS test? And the doctor was like,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: are you gay? And he's like no, but I've had
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: quite a bit of unprotected sex in my life. And
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: the doctor was just like, nah, you're probably fine.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: What that's crazy? Oh my god. Yeah, I mean it's
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: just as I mean, isn't it just as easy to
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: spread it between or is it? Is it riskier with
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: anal Yeah?
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: See, I don't know, I don't I don't have Then.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: It's also like it was, it wasn't just like ravaging
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: that community then you know then age was rampant in
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the hoods. Yeah, so it is like it is, it
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: is an interesting way to look at it a possibility
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: that and it's evil again, it's something that's evil that
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: our government would do this as a way to go
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: a population cleansing. Yeah, it's I mean disenfranchised, marginalized groups.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: It's probably a thing we should do a separate episode about.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one point.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that particular campaign started with Russia. They were
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: the first ones to spread that idea and they kicked
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: that campaign off the same way. This one kicked off
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: with an article in India, but in this case it
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: was on a newspaper obviously because it was nineteen eighty three,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: year of the chicken McNugget. Uh was it?
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh the McNuggets older than I am.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, I'm old enough to remember clearly getting chicken
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: McNuggets in my life for the first time. Uh. Yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I was just a privileged, privileged young person.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Never knew how good you had it.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: They always existed.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: It was always there, always chicken nuggets for you.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Always had running water and always had chicken.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Nuggets, and that's all you need. Uh. So the headline
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: in that article from nineteen eighty three aids may invade
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: India mystery disease caused by US experiments, And it turned
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: out that was a Kremlin back newspaper and in nineteen
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: ninety two Russia admitted Operation Infection was a KGB operation. Wow.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Russia had this weird period where they were like, we're
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: going to be a good government now, yeah, And it
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: lasted about as long it lasted until Putin took over
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: and then Putin was like, no more, We're done with that.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: It's interesting that they're they're dropping this information in Indian
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: publications because there's I don't know what the political relationship
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: is between the countries, but I just know every time
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I've talked to a Russian person who's a generation or
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: two above me, they always talk about Bollywood movies. They
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: love Bollywood movies.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Weird, And then.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: You know, because I'm of Indian descent, Yeah, it's sort
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: of like their point of connection with me. So I
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: don't know, Ye, I don't know what that connection is,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: because it is it does seem otherwise random that they
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: would choose this newspaper in India right to release this
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: propaganda about the US.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah it Yeah, I don't know why you would start
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: it in India. That's it seems like a weird choice.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And then also, you know, so it says Russia admitted
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that the operation was a KGB or yeah, infection was
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: a KGB operation. But I mean, yeah, I was always
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I was just I'm so curious we got to have
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: another episode on this, because are there other sources of
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: information or claims about the government, you know, creating HIV? Yeah,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: releasing it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's definitely a conspiracy that's been out
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: there for a while, either that or the idea that
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: the US government has a cure yeah for AIDS and
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: just does holds it. And because of the communities it
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: was spreading in, they were like, eh, we can wait, just.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thin out. Yeah, let's see. That's evil, like to
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: have your own government just oh yeah. It's like even
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: with the with the first theory that we were talking
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: about with China releasing it, like you know, you're it's
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: you're devastating your own country. But then that goes back
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: to sort of like the you know, the other theories
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: of like nine to eleven being an inside job and.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I mean we know our government has done
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: lots and lots of awful shit, like everyone has to
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: know that. Yeah, it's always shocking to me when people
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: are shocked to find out that our government has done
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: something crazy.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: What's more public is what the government has done outside
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: of this country. And that's not you know, like them
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: like bombing civilians in the Middle East. That's not you
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: know that, that's just news. Yeah, there's uh, and that's
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: fucking awful. Abu grabe, like just all this stuff, but like, yeah,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's a lot more taboo to insinuate the
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: government attacking its people. Oh yeah, that's not in mainstream media, right.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's like when it comes to US and biological weapons,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: there's a conspiracy theory or rumor that we actually used
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: biological weapons in Korea, and that would probably be worth
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: exploring at some point as an episode two. I don't
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: think we talked about it on There's a doc documentary
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: called Wormwood. Have you ever seen it?
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I haven't.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: It's on Netflix, and it's about Ostensibly, it's about the
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: CIA back when they were giving everyone LSD just to
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: see what would happen. They gave this guy too much
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: LSD and he jumped out a window, and that was
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: the story the CIA actually embraced. They were like, Yep,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: that is exactly what happened. This was just an experiment
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: and we gave him too much LSD and he committed suicide.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: But what that documentary ends up pushing as the actual
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: thing that happened is that yes, they gave him LSD,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: but it gave him a conscience and what he wanted
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: to do after he had his big LSD awakening was
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: tell the American people that we used biological weapons in
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: the Korean War, and all of this time when he's
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: in CIA custody is basically them being like, listen, you
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: cannot fucking tell people this or something battle happen. And
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: they just couldn't talk him out of it.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: How did you this information?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Because he worked on the biological weapons program.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: So that's so weird that someone who works for the
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: government is someone who's being experimented on that.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what mk ultra. Mk ultra was that. Uh,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: mk ultra was just a big government experiment, like mind control.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Test subjects aren't aren't people who work for.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: The government, No, they were like American citizens.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: So this guy also worked for the government. He also
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: worked test subjects simultaneously.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: They would do in the early early days of mk
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: ultra is just like take employees out to a retreat, huh,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: to a cabin wow, and then would just secretly dose
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: everyone with LSD and see what happened. The CIA ran
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: a fucking brothel in San Francisco in the sixties and
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: it was part of mk ultra. They would get dudes
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: high and fucking send in prostitutes and film it all
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: and then you have all this incriminating information on all
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: these powerful dudes. I don't know if that sounds familiar
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: to anyone.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Uh, we covered it in another episode, Jeffrey Epstein.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but government does some shit.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think anything's outside of the realm of possibility.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I just don't know how. Like, I don't know, like
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to get a virus from the United States to China
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: and unleash it, you got to travel with that thing
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: in ideal conditions, which is kind of lends itself to
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: what we're going to get into next is the myths
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: and conspiracies that are popping up around how to protect
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: yourself from coronavirus. And one of the concerns people had
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: that we mentioned on the Pretty Scary episode is, well,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: what if I have a package coming from China? Can
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I am I going to catch coronavirus that way and
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: you you won't?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I think it's It's not a dumb question.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: No, it's definitely not a dumb question. But the reason
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: this is only spreading from people who are in close
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: contact with each other is because viruses don't live that
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: long outside their host. They need they need very specific
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: conditions to live and thrive and the outside of an
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Amazon package coming from China in a shipping container is
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: not the conditions they need.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so it's how do you smuggle a virus?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Uh, you'd have to have like that contraption like in
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: twelve Monkeys. Have you ever seen twelve Monkeys? No?
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: But I think I know what you're talking about.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: You know the thing? Yeahh It like makes a noise
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: when it's shut Customs you just threaten to open it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: And I don't know was this on Air Force one?
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about the other conspiracies that are coming up.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Which are the conspiracies about how to fight coronavirus?
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, Uh.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: One of my favorites is that we knew ahead of
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: time about coronavirus. And the reason we the United States
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: knew is because coronavirus is listed as one of the
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: things that lysol and Clorox wipes are capable of killing.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: And they just say coronavirus.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: It just says corona, which is a family.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Of a lot of different viruses including one that.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same misunderstanding as in a lot of
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: these other stories. You see coronavirus and think that's what's
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: happening right now. But coronavirus has been around forever, and
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: there is actually this version hasn't been around long enough
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: for us to know if lysol or clorox will kill it.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I bet they're they're benefiting from.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: It though, Yeah, I bet they're itching to find out.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but anything is that a symptom?
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just walk in someone's apartment and spray it
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: on the counter, wipe it off, wait to see if
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: they die two weeks later. No one ever knows.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Would almost be the ethical way to do it, just
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: pick someone randomly.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah it is. I can see how it
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: benefits their business though, because if they already have coronavirus
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: listed on their labels, people will see that. People are
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: in a frenzy about the coronavirus, so you know, they're like,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: oh my god, this prevents it, right, you just see it.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing is I before doing this podcast,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I looked up coronavirus and that's you know, when I
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: found out, Oh, it's a family of viruses and they're
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: what people are freaking out is a very specific, specific
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: virus in that large family.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Right, So like almost all of US have probably had
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: a version of coronavirus at some point, like anytime you
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: had a cold, Yeah, you had it, And that's what
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: lysol and chlorox are talking about. It does not mean
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the United States had advanced knowledge of this coronavirus outbreak.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just means, like a lot of people get
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: common colds and lysol is legal. This will protect you
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: against the common cold.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: And it definitely doesn't mean you should like fashion one
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: of those masks out of a Clorox wipe when you
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: head out into the world.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: See, this is that shit does not need to be
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: in your body. Clorox, no bleach.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: No, And that's the whole thing. We're going to talk
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes about that exact thing. People
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: suggesting that you should drink this specific like almost bleach solution.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I knew a girl in college. She used to take
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: bats with bleach. Why oh no. I think she thought, like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: you must be a germophobe.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: It's got to be bad for you. Yeah, I'm sure
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: can't be good for your skin. No soaking in bleach.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: You're like, I just use a little bit of bleach
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: on myself.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, that's that's weird. Also, garlic and sesame oil
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: won't save you from There's the The World Health Organization
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: has had to get on Twitter and shoot down all
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: these rumors. One of them is that if you spread
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: either garlic or sesame oil on your body, it'll keep
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: you from getting this virus.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Sounds like they're talking about casting a spell.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of, and you recite ven and I I
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: One of the weird side effects of me having researched
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: this so much the past week is, Uh, there's this
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: dish called Wuhan Noodles. Yeah that I really want to
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: try now because there's a there's a restaurant in Canada
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: called Wuhan Noodles nineteen fifty. Oh it's getting Oh they're
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: getting all this racist bullshit on Instagram. They've lost like
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: two thirds of their customers.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Are people throwing clorox at them?
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's they're getting a lot of fucking heat
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: over it. And they're like, man, we've never even been there,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: like our ancestors are from there.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: It's just like something like Chicago Pizza, Like if Chicago
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: was infected and exactly Chicago Pizza and wherever.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: But that made me look up the the dish they serve,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: which is it's called hot dry noodles. It sounds so
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: fucking good.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind, it's I want to do. I'm hungry.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: There's a place in San Gabriel Valley that serves it
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: that I found, and I think I'm gonna head out
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: there this weekend. This fucking virus isn't keeping me.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: You're gonna go to San Gabriel Valley for the coronavirus.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: You're gonna go to the SGV and eat them corona noodles.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I cannot wait. It sounds so fucking good, and it's
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: they're cooked in sesame oil. So I wonder if people
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: like saw that and we're like, oh, get two and
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: two together. Sesame oil will keep you safe from wuhan virus. Uh.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Other than that, I have no idea where people got
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: this from. The World Health Organization also had to warn
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: people about putting like lysol and shit on their upper lip,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: assuming that like, oh, if I come into contact with it,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: it's gonna fly over that lysol on my lip first,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: and then I'll be sick.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's just you're breathing the air.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just breathing lyesol For as long as it
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: takes for that to dry, and that could also make
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: you sick, so don't do it. And there's also this
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: crazy article on it's on a tabloid, so hopefully most
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: people don't believe it. It's on the Sun, which is
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: a British tabloid, and the headline says first brit known
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: to catch a virus beat deadly flu with glass of
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: hot whiskey and honey. It's silly, it's dumb. It's so dumb,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: and if you read the article, that is in no way,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: shape or form what happened. This guy was a teacher
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: in Wuhan and he's twenty five years old, appears to
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: be in pretty good health, so he's not even sort
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: of the demographic yeah, in terms of who this kills.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: And he says he didn't take the antibiotics because he
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: didn't want to take medicine. But then he also says
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: they gave him an inhaler, yeah, and he took that
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: until it ran out. Well that's medicine, dude, Yeah, so
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: you were taking medicine. But then he also says I
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: drank a hot whiskey with honey every day also, And
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: now this headline is man wins with whiskey and honey, like.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: No, Wrussell's a coronavirus. Yeah, drunk and just fucking yeah,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: smash it.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: If you catch coronavirus, please do not just drink whiskey
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: and honey and hope it's going to go away.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I mean they don't even include the inhaler part in
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: the yeah, in the title.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah that in that that seems important.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, the actual medicine he was taking in addition
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: to the whiskey and honey.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but what do I know.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, the last time I drank whiskey, the next
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: day I got the flu. So you know, what do
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: we know?
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I've never woken up from drinking whiskey feeling better, not
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: not in a million years. So in the last thing,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: don't drink bleach please.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There is.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: For at least a decade now, there has been this
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: drink called Miracle Mineral Solution that people have been promoting
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: on the internet as this cure all for pretty much
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: any disease, and.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: It's the cure for life.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it will cure that if you drink enough
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: of it. It's a solution of twenty eight percent sodium
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: chlorite in distilled water. It sells for around twenty eight
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: dollars for a four ounce bottle, and it's basically diluted bleach,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: and the FDA has on several occasions urged people not
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: to drink it. It can lead to things like severe vomiting, diarrhea,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: severely low blood pressure, and acute liver failure.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: The question if this is not even FDA approved, In fact,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: the FDA saying don't drink this, is this still being
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: marketed as a drink.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still being marketed as a cure for all
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: of your diseases.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: This is a legal thing available for consumers.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it it doesn't they're not promoting it as
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no illegal ingredients in it.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: But just to market it as a drink.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Well, it's being marketed as a health supplement.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: But if it's poisonous, it's to me, it's it's pretty
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: wild that it's out there, because I mean they're taking
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: like flavored vapes off the market, so well.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean cigarettes are still on the market. Yeah,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: and those kill four hundred thousand people a year. Yeah,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't I don't know exactly how much
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: leeway they have to intervene in a situation like that. Yeah,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I don't I didn't look into how this is marketed,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: but it is. I know, you have to drink it.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's like energy shots or anything
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: like that, or if it has like a cute cartoon.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Masko get a side at the Wuhan cafe.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I'll try it when I'm there. I'll bring
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: some with me to eat the Wuhan noodles. But this
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: stuff has been around for like ten years. And on
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: January twenty second, a Twitter user pointed out that coronavirus
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: is on a list of pathogens that can be killed
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: by chlorine dioxide, so a completely different substance. Yeah, but
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: people are like, oh, I bet that miracle mineral solution
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: will work.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: You just see the buzzword coronavirus. Same thing with lysol
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: And with that, people started posting it on websites as
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: a potential cure for coronavirus. So just go to the
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: doctor if you get it, Like, I don't know what. Yeah,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Like this has to be marketed to people who are
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: afraid to go to the doctor or don't trust modern medicine.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Well, you're probably latching onto people who I mean, when
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: you're getting people in a friends that you're not in
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: the right state of mind, right, You're thinking from a
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: very fear based place, and if you if you sort
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: of spin out, you know, you might see that and
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: be like, oh fuck, I need to do this, like right,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: because you're not feeling stable.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing. They don't so much push
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: it as a thing that will cure your coronavirus. It's
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: just a thing you should drink to keep from catching
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: any number of diseases because they can all be killed
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: by this solution. But the thing is they can't be
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: like it doesn't work that way. You don't drink this,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: and then it kills the coronavirus that's in your lungs.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it kills your lungs. So it kills the
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: coronavirus that's living on your lung you.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Know, Like yeah, uh, I mean you know what also.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Would kill the coronavirus killing the host?
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be the best.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Let's just why is that bleach so diluted?
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Drink real bleach. Pick it up, you know, yeah,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: be like already laying you CANSI drink actual bleach. Uh,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: but yeah, this is I mean, the reason this all
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: spreads is because Facebook and Twitter and I don't know
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: that we've had this kind of outbreak at a time
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: when social media is what it is now, yeah, which
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: is just like a factory for fake news. Yeah, so
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: it'll be really interesting if this catches on here, Like,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: are there going to be like anti vaccer types who
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: are like, don't take the vaccine, it's just gonna make
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: things worse. And then what if a vaccine does make
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: things worse? Yeah, hopefully it doesn't come to that. But
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: you ever played Plague Incorporated? No, it's a phone game.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: They've come out and said it's not an actual simulation
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: for how a virus spreads, and I understand that. But
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: it's a game where you play as a disease and
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: your job is to eradicate humanity. Okay, And as you
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: mutate as a virus, humanity starts fighting back, like they
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: start trying to create a cure, they start shutting things down. Yeah,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: you have to keep mutating to overcome all of that.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: And what I would suggest is download that game to
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: your phone, it's free, put it on difficult, and try
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: to infect the United States with your new virus. It's
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: very hard. I know it's not the exact same thing,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: but it's hard in that game because it's hard in
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: real life to infect a country like the United States
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: on a wide scale with a disease like that. So
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: just keep that in the in your in your back
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: pocket next time you have the sniffles. Yeah, and you're
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: worried you might have coronavirus, you probably do, and it's
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: probably the kind that just gives you a cold. So
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: take it easy with the conspiracy theories.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just what if you have what's the point
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: of freaking out? Is that going to help you?
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I like that that, Like this conversation right now
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: is what they would play at the beginning of some
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: apocalypse movie where everyone's like, Yeah, what the fuck, nothing's
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: going on, and then cut to a year later. We're
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: still trying to record, but we're just a shell of ourselves.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: No one's listening, there's no electricity, we're all dying.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Just it's well, also, it's just like free but the
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: thing is freaking out that lowers your immunity. Stress lowers
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: your immunity, and lowered immunities are you know, I think viruses.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Love yeah, love less troops to fight.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how you catch these viruses.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Relax, relax, baby, take it easy, chill.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Uh, but I think that's our episode.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I feel better. So, I mean
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: whether I whatever virus I had, you know, I just
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: drank some whiskey. I took some inhaler shit too, but
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: whatever inhale bleach?
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you put bleach in an inhaler and take that in.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: I think it was diluted, like, uh ninety percent bleach.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ninety ten. You want to real lean bleach. Not
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of fat on.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: That bleach CBD yeah, ten one.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ten to one bleach CBD ratio. Guzzle whiskey just
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: for actually grain alcohol guzzle ever clear.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Go get some rubbing alcohol ninety two percent.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, drink rubbing alcohol like Kittie dococcus.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: And I guarantee no virus will fuck with you. Right,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: don't do it.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Don't don't do any of that.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Please don't do it.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: We're we're lying to you. Uh, all right, Do you
• 50:27
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• 50:29
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• 50:34
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• 50:38
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• 50:40
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• 50:44
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• 50:55
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• 50:59
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• 51:00
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