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Fab Little Bag · Divas That Care Network

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  SPEAKER_02: Well hello everyone and welcome back to the Divas That Care.
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  SPEAKER_02: and you know really be inspired and empowered by all these amazing women you know we record all of our programs and make the world a better place so you know what I definitely encourage each and every one of you to go and check out those amazing individuals that have been on our podcast all right today I'm really excited this has been a show that has taken a while for us to get to be able to do and I'm really excited because I think it was meant to be for today so my amazing guest today is Martha Silcott and she is absolutely fantastic you guys are going to love her you're going to love What she is bringing to the world and she's really making a difference in so many individuals lives that, you know, really did have to come onto our program.
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  SPEAKER_02: We really did have to share her amazing story because I think it's really going to help so many people that you and I both know.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, Martha, welcome to the Divas that care I am so beyond excited that we are finally able to do this.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know I'm so excited as well it's taken a few, it's taken a few goes but we got here eventually so it's meant to be today, absolutely like you said.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_02: So Martha, you know, one of the things I love asking our amazing guests is to tell us a little bit about yourself, you know, where you're
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  SPEAKER_00: from, you know, who you are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm Martha Silcott.
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  SPEAKER_00: I live in Hackney in London, in England, and I'm married to a fantastic guy and have two children.
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  SPEAKER_00: two boys who I guess are now adults because one is 18 and one is 22 so one's just finished university about a week ago and one has one more A-level exam to do and then he's free of his school education as well so it's pretty exciting time in this household and I love football or soccer as as you guys say over the pond I'm a season ticket holder at the Arsenal Football Club which is walking distance of my house.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that is my kind of passion that I indulge in when I'm not working, which isn't that often, but I love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's
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  SPEAKER_02: amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: And congratulations.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think that's, I love hearing stories about that and about your children.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, I always tell all of our listeners, you know, being the mother of four daughters, it's, it's always been a challenge and, and, but it's been so rewarding to be able to see the growth of these amazing, my amazing young girls have done.
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  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, to hear that about your sons is just fantastic.
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  SPEAKER_02: So Thank you so much for sharing that.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're welcome.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're welcome.
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  SPEAKER_02: So Martha, you have an amazing company and I'm going to say amazing because the very first time that you and I were introduced and I was learning about what you're doing, I was blown away because I'm like, really?
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, why didn't somebody think of this before?
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  SPEAKER_02: So I want you to tell our listeners today, if you could, a little bit about the background before we kind of dive into exactly what it is you're doing, because I think they're going to be absolutely enthralled like I am.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, so it all started actually many years ago, and from this moment that I'm about to tell you about, it did take a number of years for me to do anything about it, but my...
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  SPEAKER_00: My business is called Fab Little Bag and it's not a handbag.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's actually a sustainably sourced disposal bag for tampons, pads and condoms.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it all came about through a personal experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: And like most things, sometimes things need to go very wrong in order for there to be a kind of aha moment for you to then bring something into the world that fixes that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's effectively what happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was having dinner at a friend's house.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like a dinner party situation.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was on my period and I had to go and change my tampon.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was a tampon user and I had to go and change it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I went to their downstairs toilet and I'm a binner.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we'll come back to binning in a minute, but I'm a binner.
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  SPEAKER_00: So as all the binners listening will know, you do the loo roll wrap.
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  SPEAKER_00: You get your product and you wrap it in lots of toilet roll and you put it in the bin.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's what I did, but there was no bin.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I had this kind of 10 second panic attack of like, oh my God, what am I gonna do?
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  SPEAKER_00: I really don't want to trust the London plumbing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And also knowing that that pollutes the rivers and the oceans, I didn't wanna flush.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I ended up wrapping it in a bit more toilet paper and then doing the sleeve smuggle back to the table and then did the handbag smuggle, because my handbag was on my chair.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this was a kind of covert operation, which made me feel actually very uncomfortable for the remainder of the evening because I was sat there thinking, well, thank God wine was flowing, frankly, because then I didn't feel so self-conscious that everyone was staring at every movement I was doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I sat there just thinking, oh my God, what is going on in my handbag?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, can someone smell that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it all over my keys?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, is it leaking?
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  SPEAKER_00: It was just like horrible.
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  SPEAKER_00: So at the end of that, the next day, I kind of woke up feeling pretty angry that I'd been put in that situation.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I kind of stormed into Boots, which is the big chemist here, and I went to what they have very recently renamed the period product aisle instead of femcare or sanitary or something like that, which I think is a great change.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, I went to that aisle and I had a look and all I could see was just product.
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  SPEAKER_00: I couldn't see anything to deal with the product once you had used it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that led me to research this whole issue.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's when I discovered that actually the world of women is largely divided into two.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're either a flusher, or you're a binner and both coexist.
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  SPEAKER_00: But actually what I learned through the research I did is that whilst flushers and binners coexist, they don't really know that each other exists because such is the taboo around periods and particularly period disposal that it's never discussed.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can share all kinds of intimate details with your friends in various circumstances, but actually that, how do you dispose of your tampon or your pad doesn't really come up.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so this was really fascinating to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I kind of, the more I looked into it, the more I kind of discovered extra things like with the flushes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Flushes are then either what we call gobsmacked flushes or they're guilty flushes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they either, Most of them are gobsmacked.
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  SPEAKER_00: So most of them really do not know.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure there's a few of your listeners somewhere going, oh, that's me.
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  SPEAKER_00: They genuinely don't know that it's a bad idea to flush.
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  SPEAKER_00: One, it could block the toilet and raw sewage comes into your bathroom, which is obviously not desirable.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if that doesn't happen, it's going into the sewer system.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the sewer system is actually designed for bodily fluids.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not designed for items that actually absorb and grow with water, which is what tampons and pads are designed to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I
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  SPEAKER_02: have a question for you.
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  SPEAKER_02: So why do people flush?
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, like.
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  SPEAKER_02: When we had first talked about this, I'm like, well, no, but there's signs all over the place.
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  SPEAKER_02: People don't flush anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know, but they do.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why do they do?
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  SPEAKER_00: Why do they do it is a really great question.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the answer is that it's complicated.
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  SPEAKER_00: So some people flush because that's simply what they were told when they were 10, 11, 12, however old they were when they started their period, their mom or their sister or their best friend or whoever it was that had the conversation with them said, oh, you just flush these down the toilet, it's fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then you never have that conversation again.
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  SPEAKER_00: So some people flush because that's what they genuinely, genuinely believe is the right thing to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: Other people flush because even though they might know that's not a good idea because it ends up polluting the rivers and the oceans, They want to flush because the thought of binning and wrapping up a blood soap tampon or pad in loads of toilet roll and hoping that there's a bin or...
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe there is no bin or maybe the bin's disgusting or maybe it's your mother-in-law's bin and it's all nice and clean and white lace frilly thing around it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you just think, oh my God, I don't want to put that in there.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's lots of reasons why people don't want a bin from being hygienic or what they envisage as hygienic or just uncomfortable and awkward given the situation.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, and that makes a lot of sense because you do get uncomfortable when you're going to other people's homes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I love this because I have been able to go through your website and I've seen everything that you're doing and I'm like, wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I said, it's like, why didn't somebody come up with this before?
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  SPEAKER_02: So let's talk a little bit about exactly what you have designed.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Fab Little Bag is patented.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's very unique as a bag.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are disposal bags out on the market at the moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: One of them is made of paper, which I genuinely can't comprehend.
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  SPEAKER_00: It must have been designed by a man, because if you think about what you want to put a blood-soaked item in, kind of thin white paper is not really the first thing you think is a good idea.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's one option.
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  SPEAKER_00: The other option are basically dog poo bags that are remarketed as...
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  SPEAKER_00: period disposal bags.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they are like the cheapest, nastiest, baddest for the planet type plastic that you just tie up the end.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you need two hands to kind of prepare it, put them in, and then you tie up the bag at the top and you can still see what's inside and it's not sealed.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I thought, well, these are the options, toilet roll, dog poo bags, paper bags, none of them are actually fit for purpose.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I kind of sat down and thought, okay, so I've got a blood soap tampon or pad.
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  SPEAKER_00: What does it need to look like to really deal with this properly?
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  SPEAKER_00: So you open the bag with these finger loops on each side so that you can open the bag with one hand.
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  SPEAKER_00: which is really helpful if you're holding a tampon, especially, and works brilliantly if you're rolling up your pad to put it in as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then it's completely opaque, so you can't see what's inside at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then very importantly, it seals closed, completely closed at the top.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you're in a situation, which all binners have been in at some point, where you're trying to bin your tampon or your pad, but there is no bin, the bin's disgusting, it's too awkward, whatever the situation is, and you have to do the handbag smuggle as I did, then you can do the handbag smuggle with ease with discretion and with hygiene because the fab little bag is completely sealed closed and it doesn't if i can't show it to you because we're obviously audio not visual but it doesn't scream periods either it's all kind of white and green and black and neutral kind of colors like that and very importantly it's made from sugar cane waste and recycled materials so no new product or no product is perfect for the environment.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Fab Little Bag is also not a perfect product for the environment because anything that you create has to then be got rid of and everything has a footprint.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I've done so much research into compostables, biodegradables, sustainability, and all my research took me in the direction of focusing on what the bag is made from rather than compostability or biodegradability because frankly I can't control each country's laws as to what happens to that kind of waste it's either incinerated therefore compostability and biodegradability is irrelevant or it goes to landfill where frankly nothing is biodegrading or composting over any short period of time because it's anaerobic conditions so being being you know having biodegradable disposal period bags or compostable ones is completely and utterly pointless because none of that will be happening in reality so I decided to focus on what it's made from and to do that in the most environmentally conscious way so that's what we've done and the glue is vegan as well so that we don't offend anybody who doesn't want to deal with animals.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness I absolutely love this this is absolutely fantastic and our listeners are going to really appreciate that because you're right it's the footprint you know we it's not a conversation that is is talked about a lot but what you're doing is revolutionizing so many different aspects of how people are thinking and making that conversation available and I really appreciate that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you I mean the mission of Fat Little Bag is is simple, it's twofold.
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  SPEAKER_00: On the one hand, it's to protect the rivers and the oceans, the aquatic system from pollution, which is directly caused by flushing things down the toilet that aren't meant to be.
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  SPEAKER_00: For example, sanitary waste is the fifth largest polluter of single-use plastic in the ocean, according to a study that was done.
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  SPEAKER_00: five years ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the other aspect, the other mission is actually all emotional.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's about empowering women and girls to feel confident, relaxed, and hygienic when they are disposing of their tampons and pads wherever they find themselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: If it's at their boyfriend's house, if it's halfway up a mountain walking, if it's down the ski slope, if it's somewhere where the bin is just disgusting, it doesn't matter.
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  SPEAKER_00: They know wherever they are, whatever the circumstances, they're in control.
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  SPEAKER_00: They can conveniently and easily do what they need to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter
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  SPEAKER_02: about their lifestyle.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it doesn't.
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  SPEAKER_02: One of the things that you and I had chatted about before our conversation today is that it's not just for periods.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, no, I mean, I invented it for periods.
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  SPEAKER_00: I totally did.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what I love is when we get so many customers telling us what they all the different things that they've discovered that they use it for.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we we know that there's lots of older women who use it when they have stress incontinence.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they wear an incontinence pad but it's it's like a kind of period pad in many ways it's the same kind of size and and thickness so it fits perfectly into fab little bags and we get we get lots of emails from older people who were saying, well, I don't have periods anymore, but I love them for these because it's always bothered me having to, because urine smells, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you're trying to carry that around with you because there is no bin or the bin isn't working, then that's a problem just like it is if it's blood soaked.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's all about empowering women, whatever your age, whatever you're using it for.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we also know they're used for condoms a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know what?
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  SPEAKER_02: Whatever you can use them for.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's
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  SPEAKER_00: a perfect thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I even have some moms who write in and say, well, I bought them for my periods, but I have some in the car because, you know, I have small kids and they've always got snotty tissues or apple cores or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's a perfect bin in the car because it seals closed.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's lots of different things you can use them for, but they were invented for periods.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know what?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's perfect.
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  SPEAKER_02: Multi-use.
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  SPEAKER_00: But
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  SPEAKER_02: you also have another size though.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I want to talk about that quickly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was contacted a few years ago by a woman who said, you know, look, your fab little bags have changed my life.
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  SPEAKER_00: I use them for, I have to self catheterize three or four times a day and I use them to dispose of that, but they are a bit small and I could really do with something a bit bigger.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we got talking and she educated me on this whole world of self-catheterization for some people, but then ostomy bags that people have to use post operations to do with bowel cancer, to do with IBS, to do with all kinds of medical conditions that end up where people have a stoma and they have to then have an ostomy bag or an ileostomy bag.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this was a world that I'm ashamed to say I didn't really know much about.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I kind of got educated on that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was really horrified that they are not given any, they cannot dispose of any dignity because they're just given either nothing and left to their own devices, or they're given basically like a black bin liner.
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  SPEAKER_00: to kind of dispose of this bag, which is way bigger than is needed.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, this is not okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So obviously Fab Little Bag is way too small.
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  SPEAKER_00: So then I've come up with Hygiene Bag, which is a multi-purpose disposal bag, also made from sugarcane and recycled materials.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it is much bigger and it perfectly accommodates all types of materials incontinence pads the really much much bigger ones and babies nappies and ostomy bags so it's really for kind of personal medical things plus ostomy plus nappies etc etc so i just wanted people that are already managing a difficult situation to at least be able to dispose with ease and dignity in a hygienic way so that's what hygienic bag is for
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  SPEAKER_02: Girl, you are amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I just I'm just smiling because I'm like, Holy cow, look what you are doing and have you on our program.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm just beyond grateful.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's very kind of you to say.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's really about breaking down taboos as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is really a very, what wraps itself around the products, if you like.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's about breaking down, get people talking, you know, everyone who's listening today, go into your friendship groups, ask the question, are you a flusher or a binner?
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  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, having that conversation just having that conversation helps to break down taboos.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that I think is, you know, we all want to live in a world where we can have those relaxed conversations and nobody feels shame, nobody feels stigma, nobody feels anything negative to do with bodily things that are natural and, you know, part of who we are and are not going to change.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that is a big part of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And actually, you said something there that just made me think.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know Fab Little Bag and Hygiene Bag are both innovation, like inventions, innovation, something completely new.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if you've got listeners out there who are thinking about being entrepreneurial and doing something, then Do not think for a second that you have to totally invent something new to do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just looking around you and seeing what doesn't work and what needs to be tweaked or changed to make it much better.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's also completely innovative.
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  SPEAKER_00: just wanted to say it doesn't have to be something from scratch.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's perfect.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, and there's always improvements.
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  SPEAKER_02: We can always do something to improve something else, which I really love.
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  SPEAKER_02: Martha, this has been such an amazing conversation.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I really, one of the things I want to say is that I hope you do come back on the Divas That Care because I think there's so many more conversations that you and I can have in order to work around this taboo, this stigma and really support individuals out there that, you know, really need that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that would be wonderful, wouldn't it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Just to get to a place where, you know, the next generation doesn't have to deal with all the stigma around these issues that perhaps we did in our life.
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  SPEAKER_00: That would be amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, it would.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's what we're doing.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, our parents did that for us and now we're doing it for the next generation.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that is amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Martha, last question I have for you today is, do you have any last minute things that you'd love to share with our listeners?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, you mentioned that quite a few of them are kind of doing innovative, you know, kind of innovative entrepreneurial things.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would just share a few kind of top tips on the basis of if you're starting, if you're looking to start a new business, definitely do lots of research, but not necessarily with your friends, because your friends love you and they will always say nice things.
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  SPEAKER_00: And actually what you need to understand is reality and what Joe Bloggs would would really think and do in you know when engaging with your business so i would i would say do lots of research but not necessarily people you know to get honesty um you are going to need the skin of two rhinos because it's very tough out there and you'll get lots of rejection and lots of no's along the way so you've got to have unbelievable belief um and I would say definitely surround yourself with positive people that you can vibe off that positive energy because it's a crazy rollercoaster journey and very hard at times.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you do need people around you that can help to pick you up when things don't go as planned.
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  SPEAKER_02: Those are perfect tips because I've had to do the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: So thank you so much, Martha, for being my amazing guest today.
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  SPEAKER_02: We are going to be- all of your social media on our shows, because we really want people to go and check out your amazing website.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'll make sure that I do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And actually you should do a quick plug.
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  SPEAKER_02: What is your website for all of our listeners?
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  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's lovely.
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  SPEAKER_00: The website is www.fablittlebag.com.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I would love to hear from any of your listeners.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: You can contact me directly through the website with any particular questions and I will always get back to you.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_02: Excellent.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_02: And just to let everybody know that you can purchase this.
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  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter where you are in the world.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that I think that's really important.
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  SPEAKER_02: You are a global business and you really are supporting the individuals out there.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much, Martha, for being my amazing guest.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: As I said, we're going to have you back on the program again.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: I think there's a few more things that I'd love to chat with you.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's genuinely been a real pleasure to be here.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: Thank
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  SPEAKER_02: you.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: You're welcome.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_02: And to all of our amazing listeners, make sure you check out Martha's amazing website.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_02: I will be posting that on all of our social media, on our website and actually everywhere else that you can check out Divas That Care.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I hope that each and every one of you has a fantastic day and please, please do something kind.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: Until next time, everyone.
• 25:06
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