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OVERTIME: Welcome and first reactions to Patrik Allvin, Pascal Vincent (6/12) · Seattle Kraken Audio Network

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Speaker 3: All right, time to warm the oven up once again.
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Speaker 3: the KRACK and have made another move. The reason why
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Speaker 3: news here in a bit, Plus also talk to one
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Speaker 3: of the guys connected here with said news, what happened
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Speaker 3: the krack and named Patrick Alvin, previously GM of the
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Speaker 3: Vancouver Canucks, now part of their front office. He will
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Speaker 3: serve as vice president and assistant general manager. And that's
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Speaker 3: not all. A named Pascal Vincent assistant coach, joining Lane
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Speaker 3: Lambert staff. This will be his third NHL stop, previously
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Speaker 3: with Winnipeg and also Columbus. Last two years was in
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Speaker 3: Montreal's farm system, serving as head coach of AHL Laval,
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Speaker 3: where he also picked up the league's Coach of the
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Speaker 3: Year award. What a fine pickup our conversation the Pascal
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Speaker 3: Vinson also follows that. Plus will also air more from
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Speaker 3: the Ian Forness show earlier today, speaking with Thomas Drants
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Speaker 3: of the Athletic based up in Vancouver, and more surrounding
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Speaker 3: this news and much more. Well to recap things once again,
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Speaker 3: Patrick Alvin named vice president and assistant general manager of
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Speaker 3: Pascal Vincent named assistant coach. Alvin is no stranger here
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Speaker 3: to this position, by the way, previously connected with Jason
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Speaker 3: botterrel in Pittsburgh when he was a member of their
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Speaker 3: front office. And many said his handywork from his amateur
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Speaker 3: scouting laid the groundwork down for back to back Stanley
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Speaker 3: Cup championships. Pascal Vincent joining the crack inside as well
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Speaker 3: as assistant coach offense a big part of this development.
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Speaker 3: Also a big part of this Let's jump in two
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Speaker 3: things right now, Al Kaniski joining us on the overtime podcast. Al,
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Speaker 3: you're looking pretty clean shaven here. No playoff, Beard, Hopefully
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Speaker 3: it's next year. You're holding up so well for the summer.
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Speaker 4: I absolutely am Mikey. I'm enjoying this and a little
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Speaker 4: bit of time off, and I'm just starting to get
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Speaker 4: that bug of missing hockey. It's been too long, and.
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Speaker 3: That has opened the door for beef Wellington. I saw
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Speaker 3: your Instagram feed and what was even more impressive, you
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Speaker 3: and I played golf together on Monday and you wasted
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Speaker 3: no time. Literally, It's like you just stepped in right
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Speaker 3: into the kitchen, dropped your clubs on the floor, and
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Speaker 3: got after that, and then voila, hours later, the world's
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Speaker 3: most precious and perfect beef Wellington on your table. I
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Speaker 3: was jealous of watching this.
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Speaker 4: That's the beauty of a beef Wellington. All the work
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Speaker 4: is the forty eight hours leading up to the cook
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Speaker 4: and that was in the fridge waiting for me when
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Speaker 4: I got home to go into the oven.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so what was the first pighte like? Then?
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Speaker 4: Oh? Magical. And the thing is is that my kids
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Speaker 4: eat it. There's mushrooms in there. They don't care. They
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Speaker 4: love it. It's delicious, So it's always a hit.
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Speaker 3: I love it. See that's the key with vegetables. And
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Speaker 3: I've done this as well too with my kids because
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Speaker 3: if you give them pasta, spaghetti, sauce, whatever pizza like,
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Speaker 3: you can hide the veggie. He's under the Jervis kids. Hey,
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Speaker 3: don't listen to me. By the way, you're outside of
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Speaker 3: the home office studio right now. I know that you're
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Speaker 3: not listening here. But folks, parent hack this is how
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Speaker 3: you sneak in the veggies here, find a way to
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Speaker 3: like mix them.
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Speaker 4: In really fine, saw tayt them butter.
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Speaker 3: They can't tell the difference at all, and they're getting
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Speaker 3: their ingredients here.
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Speaker 1: Here you go.
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Speaker 3: Patrick Calvin is now a member of the Crack in
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Speaker 3: front office again earlier today, named VP and assistant GM.
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Speaker 3: And now we're going to get into I think from
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Speaker 3: the at the top here. Why this move was made
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Speaker 3: for me, first off is the instant connection. This is
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Speaker 3: how the hockey world works here. Jason botterol was in Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 3: They had success under Jim Rutherford. Patrick Golvin was a
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Speaker 3: part of that and so and we'll get into a
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Speaker 3: little bit of this here later on. But this is
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Speaker 3: again another turning of the dial by the crack in
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Speaker 3: front office and by Jason botterrel to basically put a
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Speaker 3: stamp on this operation where this is now a j
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Speaker 3: some bottlel operation full stop. So you bring in Patrick Alvin,
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Speaker 3: who's got what seems like a pretty stellar record here
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Speaker 3: as far as scouting. I've talked to some folks here
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Speaker 3: in Vancouver. The handiwork he'd did on the pro scouting
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Speaker 3: side was terrific as well draft table. He won't be
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Speaker 3: too much involved, I think with that here. But it's
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Speaker 3: a move off the top where it signals that there
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Speaker 3: is familiarity, a relationship helps and this is where the
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Speaker 3: two could operate basically on the same page.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Patrick's a a hockey operations guy. You know,
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Speaker 4: he's he's had success with the Stanley Cup wins, and
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, we talk a lot about having
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Speaker 4: players on your roster that have been through that that
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Speaker 4: that that chasm of getting to the other side, which
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Speaker 4: is the Stanley Cup and what it takes. And I
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Speaker 4: think for front office staff it's the same thing. You
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Speaker 4: want people that have put together rosters that have won
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Speaker 4: Stanley Cupps, and there's a secret sauce in there that
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Speaker 4: you want to apply to your own work organization. So
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Speaker 4: no surprise that it's someone that has Stanley Cup experience.
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Speaker 4: But you're right on Mike to your point, which is
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Speaker 4: when you have a relationship with someone, a past relationship
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Speaker 4: like Jason Bartol does, you look for people that you've
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Speaker 4: had success with in that time and you want to
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Speaker 4: bring them into your organization. So that's exactly what Jason
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Speaker 4: Botter is doing.
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Speaker 3: Two to six European scout from Montreal, then joined the
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Penguins staff six seven. He spent sixteen years with
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Speaker 3: the Penguins and then moved on to Vancouver to work
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Speaker 3: under Jim Rutherford. Didn't exactly work out, but again there
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Speaker 3: has been some success with the roles that he is
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Speaker 3: at previously here in Pittsburgh. The thing that you can't
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Speaker 3: ignore now is the fact that there's now four assistant
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Speaker 3: general managers in this craft in front office, he's now
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Speaker 3: in the mix. There is Alex Vandricki who has been
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Speaker 3: here from the start. Ryan Jankowski as well, he's got
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Speaker 3: his handywork on the amateur side. Ricky Oldcik is their capologist.
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Speaker 3: He is still here as well. This is a very
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Speaker 3: very crowded meeting room, so communication is going to be
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Speaker 3: at least from my own perspective on this here from
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Speaker 3: the outsides of the walls, just looking in communication first
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Speaker 3: and foremost is going to be very important to get
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Speaker 3: this groundwork laid down because I mean the NHL draft
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Speaker 3: is right around the corner, and then after that, this
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Speaker 3: is where Patrick Albean has to cook, and it's going
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Speaker 3: to be trade season and then July one if they
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Speaker 3: want to dip into free agency where that pool is
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Speaker 3: right now.
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Speaker 4: Razor Thin, Yeah, I mean, there are no rules as
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Speaker 4: to how many assistant to gms you can have, and
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Speaker 4: you know, four to us sounds like a lot. But
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Speaker 4: if they work well together, if they know their rules
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Speaker 4: and responsibilities and what they're good at, it can really
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Speaker 4: be a lot. There could be a lot of value
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Speaker 4: there for the Seattle crack, and so that'll be the
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Speaker 4: question mark I guess is how do they work together?
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Speaker 4: Are they are they independent silos or do the four
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Speaker 4: of them work closely together focused on a common goal.
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Speaker 4: That remains to be seen. But you know, Patrick's got
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Speaker 4: a lot of experience with evaluating talent, especially in Europe,
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Speaker 4: and that could play into some of the future decisions
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Speaker 4: making making the Krack and have to do, whether it's
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Speaker 4: the draft or free agency or even future trades.
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Speaker 3: Did many of you happen to read the Kraken news
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Speaker 3: release on this and where Patrick Golvin mentioned the practice
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Speaker 3: facility because it is getting major, major, major traction in Vancouver.
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Speaker 3: It's a sore spot. And Arthur Sheilov's mentioned this in
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh when he went to Pittsburgh from Vancouver, that they
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Speaker 3: have their own facility the Canucks did not, And then
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Speaker 3: Alvin slides it right in there and also mention the
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Speaker 3: practice facility. It's almost kind of like we dare not
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Speaker 3: speak its name in Vancouver.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
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Speaker 3: Where the Kraken had to do with this. It helps
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Speaker 3: make your job easier when you can give your players
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Speaker 3: a state of the year facility that has their own
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Speaker 3: dressing room, that has their own recovery center, that has
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Speaker 3: their own place to basically unwind, that has their own
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Speaker 3: place to you know, eat and take advantage of top
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Speaker 3: of the line nutrition. I mean, this is a facility
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Speaker 3: now that I mean al I can't believe I'm saying
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Speaker 3: this here is now five years old, but is still
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Speaker 3: considered the best in the entire league. It's not the
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Speaker 3: main hook that will draw free agents. It's not the
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Speaker 3: main hook that will convince guys to wave. There are
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Speaker 3: no movement clauses, no trade clauses, but it is a
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Speaker 3: very very important piece of the pie to convince a
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Speaker 3: player to come over. It will be where they live,
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Speaker 3: work and play from a hockey sense. So it's still
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Speaker 3: getting major traction right now from what we've heard today.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I've seen every other practice
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Speaker 4: facility in the league, and of the thirty one other
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Speaker 4: other facilities, I can only think of one that would
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Speaker 4: be on par with with uh casey I, which is
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Speaker 4: the Florida Panthers. Now you might say, well, it's better
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Speaker 4: because the weather's better. You can't control that in Seattle,
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Speaker 4: so the facility itself would be on par But other
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Speaker 4: than that, you're You're right, it is the best in
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Speaker 4: the league, and I and players absolutely factor that in
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Speaker 4: when they know that that's going to be a piece
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Speaker 4: of the pie as far as you know, is it
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Speaker 4: going to support what they need? Is it is it
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Speaker 4: going to help their team win? Does it provide uh,
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Speaker 4: you know, the support they need? So, uh, it's an
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Speaker 4: important part part of the overall uh recipe and uh,
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Speaker 4: you know, I agree best in the league.
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Speaker 3: In that release, by the way, it was all being
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Speaker 3: that said quote. The practice facility is phenomenal, best in
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Speaker 3: the league. The support the crack And have and or
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Speaker 3: the support of the Crack And in the city and
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Speaker 3: region was evident every time I've been down there for
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Speaker 3: games as a visiting team. You can feel the fans
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Speaker 3: energy and feel the identity of the team playing fast hockey.
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Speaker 3: Those compliments out of Patrick Alvin from the get go,
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Speaker 3: after news came out that he was officially brought on board.
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Speaker 3: Here for today, what I want to get out here
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Speaker 3: is the hidden meaning of where the Kraken feel that
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Speaker 3: they're at right now with pro scouting, because we're going
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Speaker 3: to see potentially a lot of this having to do
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Speaker 3: in connection with Alvien and how he'll orchestrate this turnaround
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Speaker 3: with Jason Botterral for Somemer that's going to potentially face
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Speaker 3: a lot of turnover. And we'll see by the results
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Speaker 3: of this audit. And I'll have more on this here
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Speaker 3: in a bit. But when you look back at Patrick
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Speaker 3: Alvin and Vancouver the misses, maybe you can throw Vincent
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Speaker 3: day Arnay in there, Danton Heinen of ander Kine the
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Speaker 3: hits though, Keith for Surewood Teddy blueger Peu's suitor, Dakota
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Speaker 3: or Dakota, Joshua and Nikita is the door off that
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Speaker 3: last name right there, that's a player on this roster
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Speaker 3: you would love to have, you would love to take.
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Speaker 3: He's big, he's mean, he's nafty, he plays for and
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Speaker 3: he's gotten attitudes. So this is I think where if
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Speaker 3: you're looking at the meat of this, what can Patrick
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Speaker 3: Alvin help do with Jason Bottle to turn the crank
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Speaker 3: when it comes down to trades and when it when
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Speaker 3: it comes down as well to July one.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that you know, when it comes to
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Speaker 4: you know, trades and free agency, rarely do you give
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Speaker 4: an opportunity to add you know, a one C or
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Speaker 4: even even a one w It's that middle six where
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Speaker 4: you know you can you can fortify your roster. It's
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Speaker 4: that second D pairing where you can fortify your blue
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Speaker 4: line and if you know you get the right person
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Speaker 4: there to make the right deal, you do get a
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Speaker 4: guy like Zadorov that that that that can be that person.
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Speaker 4: So I would expect that Patrick Alvin will will you know,
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Speaker 4: play a role in uh, you know, looking and finding
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Speaker 4: finding some help helping to find some of those players. Well.
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Speaker 3: I think also this is a big play for trade
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Speaker 3: time in July one, as I said, because I think
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Speaker 3: potentially al you know, when we're talking about what this
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Speaker 3: team is going to do, you know, when this audit
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Speaker 3: is revealed and the results of this are coming, Todd
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Speaker 3: Lightwickie said, we're not gonna probably rebuild, but check back
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Speaker 3: with us later. Now that being said, unless there really
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Speaker 3: is a sharp turnaround, maybe a philosophy here, you're looking
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Speaker 3: at a retool that is going to be underway very
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Speaker 3: very very soon. So this I think shows potentially there's
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Speaker 3: no more play in this game of running it back
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Speaker 3: here on this roster. Everett said this, others have said this.
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Speaker 3: I'll say it. The familiar faces you have become accustomed
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Speaker 3: to in the first five years, it might be time
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Speaker 3: here to move on. In the UFA category, there's Jaden Schwartz,
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Speaker 3: There's Jamie Alexiak, There's Ellie Tolvenan. We'll see what happens
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Speaker 3: here with this Shane Rice situation and what happens here
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Speaker 3: with trade time. There are other RFAs that they have
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Speaker 3: to take care of now, but July one is going
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Speaker 3: to be very tough Albeca. As we saw this a
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Speaker 3: year ago, so many names out there, but then with
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Speaker 3: the cap going up, everyone's getting resigned now these days,
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Speaker 3: so you're not just throwing money at the obvious big fish.
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Speaker 3: But what can you do if you're going to go
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Speaker 3: the free agent route to not just replenished skill, but
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Speaker 3: to find the right fit that can play the lane
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Speaker 3: Lambert way? And I think most importantly here for me,
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Speaker 3: what can this front office do to sniff out the
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Speaker 3: right kind of culture guy as well?
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Speaker 4: Well? I think it's a it's a combination of you know,
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Speaker 4: finding the right player, but also trying to find that
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Speaker 4: that right player that is looking to solve something that
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Speaker 4: you can solve for them. What problem are they trying
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Speaker 4: to solve? And is it getting closer to family, because
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Speaker 4: you've got family in the Pacific Northwest. Is it guys
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Speaker 4: on the team that you've played with that you want
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Speaker 4: to get back to and play with again. Is it
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Speaker 4: a coach that you're familiar with in Lane Lambert, You
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Speaker 4: know what problem are they trying to solve? Because maybe
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Speaker 4: they're in a situation where they aren't performing well with
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Speaker 4: a coach that they have, or they don't like the
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Speaker 4: roster in the location. If you can solve that problem
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Speaker 4: for them, that everything else that you can throw at them,
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Speaker 4: whether it's money, whether it's practice facility, and all the
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Speaker 4: other benefits to come with Seattle, that's just going to
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Speaker 4: be a show on the cake. So trying to figure
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Speaker 4: out those problems is a big part of that free agency.
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Speaker 3: We're going to get to our conversation with assistant coach
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Speaker 3: Pascal Vincent, also ian Fanessad Thomas Drants on the airwaves
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Speaker 3: here on ninety three three kjar earlier today to discuss
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Speaker 3: all of this. I want to move on to Pascal Vincent.
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Speaker 3: He'll be brought on here to fill the role that
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Speaker 3: Jess Campbell left and we'll see what happens with her
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Speaker 3: next move. But a lot of the talk around him
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Speaker 3: has been the ability to create offense with his ideas
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Speaker 3: and his concepts and listen, no one's going to you know,
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Speaker 3: dig in and I think get the playbook out of
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Speaker 3: him in this case, But there's also power play experience
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Speaker 3: for him, I think which factors. And we'll see how
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Speaker 3: all this rounds out, because as of right now, this
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Speaker 3: is still very very much a fluid situation with his
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Speaker 3: role but Laane Lambert very much known as a defensive guy.
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Speaker 3: To help get this team back on track. Now comes
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Speaker 3: the part where you have to find a way to
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Speaker 3: try to coach offense more out of these guys. Talent's
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Speaker 3: got a lot here to do with this, but I
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Speaker 3: think in the Pascal Vinson conversation, this begins, first off,
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Speaker 3: what can you do to find the right type of
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Speaker 3: fit here to get the most out of someone like
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Speaker 3: Matty Beaneers. What can you do to find the right
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Speaker 3: type of fit, say fingers crossed, they can resign him,
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Speaker 3: Bobby McMahon, can you push him maybe over thirty goals?
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Speaker 3: I think for me as well, to the development side
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Speaker 3: of this is a very very important thing. So what
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Speaker 3: can you do to not just get more out of
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Speaker 3: benears who are still relatively young right now at the NHL.
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Speaker 3: But what can he do with Berkeley Catton when O'Brien arrives,
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Speaker 3: what can he do with him? Should Tyson Jugnat make
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Speaker 3: this roster, what can he do with him? Uh, there's
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Speaker 3: Ryan Winterton who we saw become, you know, a larger
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Speaker 3: part of the penalty kill confidence with a puck. His
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Speaker 3: speed is well taken over. Then, Jacob Malanson, what can
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Speaker 3: you do to also maximize his gifts along with natural
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Speaker 3: born grit that lies inside of him?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know Pascal Vinstance known as a
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Speaker 4: development coach, he's a he's a he's a teaching coach,
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Speaker 4: and so you know, you would expect him to to
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Speaker 4: help the younger players, to help develop the young guys,
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Speaker 4: the prospects, the guys you mentioned. But I think that
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Speaker 4: he'd be the first one to also say that you know,
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Speaker 4: when you when you have a ten year career in
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Speaker 4: the NHL or longer if you're lucky, development never stops.
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Speaker 4: And so he's not going to just focus on on
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Speaker 4: the young guys. He's going to look to every guy
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Speaker 4: that's willing to learn, is willing to listen. It's willing
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Speaker 4: to ask some questions and he'll give some feedback. There's
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Speaker 4: a development opportunity there, and I think this roster of guys,
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Speaker 4: certainly coming out of last season, has that type of
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Speaker 4: mentality and is not resistant to that. So development coach, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: he's going to be topped to do a lot in
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Speaker 4: that area, just with the young guys alone they got
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Speaker 4: in the prospects coming up, but I think across the
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Speaker 4: entire roster there's an opportunity.
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Speaker 3: I mean you go back and look at Columbus here.
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Speaker 3: I mean Karil mark Schenko, how much he's grown, Adam
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Speaker 3: fan Tilly as well, he had him in the very
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Speaker 3: infancy of his career. And I'll even use Zach Warensky
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Speaker 3: maybe as an example because Defen's been take a longer
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Speaker 3: time here to develop and with their curve as well.
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Speaker 3: He already had hit twenty goals before Pascal Vinson got
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Speaker 3: there to the Columbus Blue Jackets, but then we saw
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Speaker 3: Warensky hit another level as well. That makes me when
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Speaker 3: you think of players like that, excited for what he
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Speaker 3: can do in players like Beniers, In players like Kat
18:53
Speaker 3: and Jacobrien as well, Tyson jug not again using him
18:56
Speaker 3: as an example, and then Winnipeg Mark Schifley. When he
18:59
Speaker 3: was there, Mark Stathley was a young player and look
19:02
Speaker 3: what he's grown into. Nikolai Eelers when he was there,
19:05
Speaker 3: Look what he's developed into, and as well Jacob Truba,
19:09
Speaker 3: big mean, nasty, right shot defenseman.
19:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you don't get Coach of the Year
19:16
Speaker 4: at the AHL twice by mistake. Right, It's one of
19:20
Speaker 4: those things where it's not just about winning games, it's
19:24
Speaker 4: it's about the success you have with your rosters. So yeah,
19:28
Speaker 4: you can say it's the AHL not the NHL, but
19:30
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. You're developing players. And I think that's
19:32
Speaker 4: something that's in dire need right now for the Seattle Cracking.
19:35
Speaker 4: So all those names you mentioned, he's you know, he's
19:39
Speaker 4: had the he's had an ability to affect their games
19:42
Speaker 4: in positive ways, and I'm looking forward to seeing what
19:44
Speaker 4: he can do for some of these players on the Cracking.
19:47
Speaker 3: And again Winnipeg when he was there, he moved on
19:50
Speaker 3: to Manitoba taking a head coaching role, and then even
19:53
Speaker 3: some players that he coached, he was able to elevate
19:56
Speaker 3: them to NHL roles as well. So that's something that's
19:59
Speaker 3: got to be I think thing taken into and I
20:01
Speaker 3: think we're gonna have a bit of a good conversation
20:03
Speaker 3: when it comes down to the concept of building relationships,
20:07
Speaker 3: because in the modern day coaching phase, you're not just
20:10
Speaker 3: pointing a finger and ordering a player to go here
20:12
Speaker 3: and there with a heavy hand. You've got to find
20:14
Speaker 3: a way, no matter your age, as a coach, to
20:17
Speaker 3: relate to the younger player. And I think maybe you
20:21
Speaker 3: go back at what he did with Winnipeg in jumping
20:24
Speaker 3: on board back in twenty eleven and then leaving in
20:27
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. This is what interests me. I think here
20:31
Speaker 3: with his background, he was at one point a Paul
20:34
Speaker 3: Maurice disciple, and Paul Maurice might be going to the
20:38
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame here pretty soon based on the years
20:40
Speaker 3: he's put in and the Cups now that he has won.
20:43
Speaker 3: That's some pretty serious street credit that he brings in
20:45
Speaker 3: here with with this position.
20:47
Speaker 4: Oh, he absolutely does. And again, you know, as a
20:51
Speaker 4: coach that gets to work alongside of other coaches, you
20:54
Speaker 4: glean things from them as well along the way and
20:57
Speaker 4: you build you know, your resume, your ale.
21:00
Speaker 5: Uh.
21:01
Speaker 4: And he works with with some greats. So again, Mike
21:05
Speaker 4: I you know, I can't emphasize it enough. I think
21:08
Speaker 4: that that he could be the strongest coach in the
21:13
Speaker 4: history of the Krack and the short history of the
21:15
Speaker 4: Kraken that has the ability to positively affect the youth,
21:19
Speaker 4: the prospects, the guys coming up, the guys like Maddy Ebineer's,
21:23
Speaker 4: like like Shane Wright, like Berkeley Catton in in a
21:26
Speaker 4: significant way where they do turn a corner and you go, Wow,
21:30
Speaker 4: what a big jump this season from last season. So
21:34
Speaker 4: the writing will be on the wall when, you know,
21:36
Speaker 4: when when he when he gets his hands so to speak,
21:39
Speaker 4: on these players, when he starts building those relationships. But
21:42
Speaker 4: I would expect that that that improvement to happen because
21:45
Speaker 4: of him.
21:46
Speaker 3: What's he think right now with this roster and how's
21:48
Speaker 3: he gonna work coming into Seattle? Without further ado, our
21:52
Speaker 3: conversation right here with a new Kraken assistant coach all right,
21:54
Speaker 3: moving on joining us now by phone is new Kraken
21:57
Speaker 3: assistant coach Pascal Vince and hired earlier on Thursday. It
22:02
Speaker 3: is official, sign sealed and delivered and he joins us
22:06
Speaker 3: right now here on the Emergency podcast edition of the
22:09
Speaker 3: Overtime podcast, Pascal, thank you for joining us here, Congratulations
22:12
Speaker 3: here on the move, Welcome to Seattle, And first off,
22:16
Speaker 3: what does it mean to now become one and the
22:19
Speaker 3: same with the City of Seattle and joint Land Lambert Staff.
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm I'm first of all, thank you for having me.
22:25
Speaker 5: I'm quite excited to be joining the team. I've I've
22:30
Speaker 5: had a few conversations with Lane and Jason, and you know,
22:36
Speaker 5: for me at this stage of my life and where
22:38
Speaker 5: I'm at in my career, it's all about the people.
22:41
Speaker 5: And I've been to Seattle and playing against the Kraken
22:44
Speaker 5: over the last few years. But for me, it's all
22:46
Speaker 5: about the people. And and uh, I've done my homework obviously,
22:51
Speaker 5: they've done their homeworks, and it's a it's a good
22:53
Speaker 5: it's a good sit for them, it's a good fit
22:55
Speaker 5: for me. Yeah, quite excited about the opportunity.
22:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, hockey, Sir, has a lot of six degrees of separation.
23:02
Speaker 3: They say it is a small world. So there's a
23:04
Speaker 3: few things that I'll get to on that end. But
23:06
Speaker 3: thank you for joining us here, and congratulations once again
23:08
Speaker 3: on the new role. And I'm curious about previously in
23:13
Speaker 3: the American Hockey League. I mean, it's not easy packing
23:15
Speaker 3: up from a job that treated you well, it had results,
23:19
Speaker 3: and it was just minutes away from where you grew
23:22
Speaker 3: up in Laval. But the NHL is the NHL. So
23:26
Speaker 3: what was the easiest and the toughest parts with what
23:29
Speaker 3: you had to weigh with eventually moving on, Well.
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Speaker 5: It's not very often in coaching or professional sports that
23:39
Speaker 5: you can work in the city you grew in. I
23:42
Speaker 5: obviously been. I grew up in Laval. So being part
23:47
Speaker 5: of the organization here, the Montreal Canadians, and to be
23:51
Speaker 5: on the inside looking in and understanding how the function
23:55
Speaker 5: I've been growing a lot. But to leave the organization
23:58
Speaker 5: is quite difficult because it's it's on one side, it's
24:02
Speaker 5: it's home and it's my My family is closed. My
24:07
Speaker 5: parents are a little bit older, so that human side
24:11
Speaker 5: is a bit difficult. But at the same time, we've
24:16
Speaker 5: been traveling, so we we spent ten years in Winnipeg,
24:19
Speaker 5: a few years in Columbus, back in Montreal, and now
24:23
Speaker 5: we're going to head to the West coast in Seattle
24:26
Speaker 5: and beautiful city. But again, it's it's all about the people.
24:30
Speaker 5: For me, it's getting to keep evolving as a coach
24:34
Speaker 5: as a person getting to learn new stuff and and
24:37
Speaker 5: bring my experience to the coaching staff to the players,
24:41
Speaker 5: being part of the solution. I mean, it's there's It's
24:46
Speaker 5: never easy to leave an organization, even more so when
24:50
Speaker 5: it's your hometown. But the the offer and the opportunity
24:55
Speaker 5: to work in Seattle, with the people already there was
24:59
Speaker 5: two great to not to take it.
25:03
Speaker 3: And that next chance in the NHL has arrived as
25:05
Speaker 3: Pascal Vinston joining us right now. A lot of what
25:08
Speaker 3: we get to with you is development. And I go
25:11
Speaker 3: back to Columbus for example, and what they're growing with
25:14
Speaker 3: Adam Fantilly, Careil, Mark Schenko, even a guy like Zach
25:17
Speaker 3: Warenski who took a longer curve as a defenseman. But
25:21
Speaker 3: you were there for all of them. There's Winnipeg with
25:24
Speaker 3: Mark Schifley, Nikolai Eelers when he was there, Jacob Truebau
25:27
Speaker 3: when he was there. Pascal, what do you like about
25:30
Speaker 3: the krack and roster and the kind of young talent
25:34
Speaker 3: just from off the top that you get to work
25:35
Speaker 3: with here.
25:36
Speaker 5: I like, I like the I like the fact that
25:41
Speaker 5: they've been growing there. I like the vision of Jason
25:45
Speaker 5: and Lane. I like how they're getting better every year.
25:49
Speaker 5: I like how they drafted. But for me, development is
25:54
Speaker 5: not related to to an age. Whether you're younger or
26:01
Speaker 5: an older person, there's always a way to get better.
26:04
Speaker 5: And that's that's what I do myself. I'm trying to
26:07
Speaker 5: evolve and get better as a person. And I love
26:10
Speaker 5: getting to know the people first because I think if
26:13
Speaker 5: you get to know the people, if if you really
26:16
Speaker 5: get to know them and and share with them and
26:20
Speaker 5: sometimes vulnerable there, there's there's a connection that is being made.
26:25
Speaker 5: And the NHL, those hockey players are different in a
26:31
Speaker 5: good way. They're they're smart. It's different than it was
26:35
Speaker 5: twenty years ago. They're they're coming in way more prepared,
26:40
Speaker 5: way more informed, and and to get to know them,
26:44
Speaker 5: to push them to limits that they didn't even know
26:48
Speaker 5: is the goal, and to do it in a positive manner.
26:52
Speaker 5: Building relationship partnerships with those players individually so we grow
26:58
Speaker 5: as a team, because that's the only chance we got
27:00
Speaker 5: to win. The teams that are winning, they're close, they
27:04
Speaker 5: believe in each other, and the coaching staff is there
27:07
Speaker 5: to support them. And you know, that's what drives me.
27:13
Speaker 5: And to do it in the best league in the
27:16
Speaker 5: world is even more so important and it's a great achievement.
27:21
Speaker 5: But to be able to do it in Seattle now
27:23
Speaker 5: is something that I'm quite excited about.
27:26
Speaker 3: We got word that you've got involvement in quite a lot,
27:29
Speaker 3: and the role is still kind of taking shape here
27:31
Speaker 3: at this point. Lane Lambert though, gave you a great compliment.
27:35
Speaker 3: He hinted at the kind of work and ideas you've
27:37
Speaker 3: done to help generate offense. To you, what are some
27:41
Speaker 3: of the fundamentals you need to bring the right concepts
27:45
Speaker 3: to players in this day and age.
27:47
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, creating offenses, it's a combination of different things. Obviously,
27:55
Speaker 5: best skills level is especially there at nowadays. The players
28:00
Speaker 5: that the teams are drafting, they're already really skilled. It's
28:04
Speaker 5: to put that together and how do we become fast
28:07
Speaker 5: as a team, as as a as an organization when
28:12
Speaker 5: we apply the concept. So I think we're gonna we're
28:16
Speaker 5: going to discuss. We will talk about it. Lane obviously
28:22
Speaker 5: is the head coach. He will make the last decision.
28:24
Speaker 5: But I will bring a few concepts, a few ways
28:29
Speaker 5: to create a little bit more offense. But again, the
28:33
Speaker 5: challenge is is it's a challenge and it's not in
28:38
Speaker 5: a sense that it takes time to get to know
28:40
Speaker 5: the players to build that trust factor. But once it's there,
28:44
Speaker 5: it's there for a long time and that's how we
28:45
Speaker 5: can roll as a team.
28:48
Speaker 3: Coaches often take a little bit of who they've worked
28:50
Speaker 3: for with them from time to time, and I can't
28:53
Speaker 3: help but think of a guy like Paul Maurice who's
28:56
Speaker 3: been doing this for decades and the mark that he
28:59
Speaker 3: is leaving here on this game. You worked with him
29:02
Speaker 3: in Winnipeg. What's the most important thing you learned while
29:05
Speaker 3: working with him?
29:06
Speaker 5: Well, yes, I've learned quite a bit next to him.
29:12
Speaker 5: He's such a good hockey coach, but he's an even
29:16
Speaker 5: better person. I've I've learned in so many ways, how
29:22
Speaker 5: to prepare, how to deal with adversity, managing older players,
29:27
Speaker 5: managing younger players, you know, facing adversity and turn that
29:35
Speaker 5: into something positive. But the thing the two things I've
29:39
Speaker 5: learned the most, Well, I've learned a lot, but the
29:41
Speaker 5: few things that stayed with me the most I should
29:44
Speaker 5: say is how humble he is and not too high,
29:49
Speaker 5: not too low. We're never as good as we think
29:52
Speaker 5: we are, but we're never as bad as we think
29:54
Speaker 5: we are so finding solutions even when it's hard, finding
29:59
Speaker 5: a way to bring some joy to the rink. When
30:02
Speaker 5: things are hard, it's not fun, but we can't find
30:05
Speaker 5: ways to make those hard moments a challenge and turn
30:11
Speaker 5: that into something positive. So that would be one thing,
30:14
Speaker 5: and the other thing would be is never ending desire
30:17
Speaker 5: to get better as a coach, as a person, he's
30:20
Speaker 5: a cure, he's got a curious mind, he's very intellectual,
30:25
Speaker 5: very smart, speaks really well, but it comes from his
30:30
Speaker 5: desire to get better. And to me, this is a
30:33
Speaker 5: great sign of amazing leadership, because one when you have
30:39
Speaker 5: a guy like him finding ways and spending the time
30:43
Speaker 5: to get better, it's very contagious and everyone everybody wants
30:47
Speaker 5: to get better and everybody's trying to push a little
30:49
Speaker 5: bit harder. The respect he has for the game and
30:52
Speaker 5: the players, that's something that really amazed me. So I
30:56
Speaker 5: took a lot from him, and I feel very fortunate
30:59
Speaker 5: that I have a chance to work with him for
31:01
Speaker 5: almost for what eight years, nine years, So I've.
31:04
Speaker 3: Been lucky Pascal. Situations may vary from team to team here,
31:09
Speaker 3: but what kind of personality makes the right kind of
31:12
Speaker 3: assistant coach? For the situation that you're walking into and
31:16
Speaker 3: the kind of coach that you want to be.
31:18
Speaker 5: Well, I've been a head coach most of my life,
31:21
Speaker 5: so I know what it feels to be a head coach,
31:23
Speaker 5: and because of that, I think I can be a
31:26
Speaker 5: really good assistant coach. I know how it feels to
31:28
Speaker 5: be in that position, and sometimes it's good. Sometimes you
31:33
Speaker 5: feel pretty lonely on that island as a head coach.
31:37
Speaker 6: So I'd like to be that.
31:38
Speaker 5: I'd like to be the man, the guy, the coach
31:41
Speaker 5: for Lane that I would want to hire myself if
31:45
Speaker 5: I was a head coach. So I'm going to be
31:48
Speaker 5: I'm going to bring my experience as the work ethic,
31:52
Speaker 5: loyalty to him, to the team, to the players, to
31:55
Speaker 5: the organization, finding solutions, basically bringing my best and and
32:03
Speaker 5: and that's what I'm gonna do. I'm going to bring
32:05
Speaker 5: my best. I'm gonna I'm going to be there to support,
32:08
Speaker 5: to challenge at times, but I'm here to be part
32:12
Speaker 5: of something that is bigger than just myself being part
32:15
Speaker 5: of the coaching staff, being part of the Seattle Kraken
32:19
Speaker 5: and and to me, that's that's how I function. I'm
32:23
Speaker 5: I have no ego. It's not about me. It never
32:25
Speaker 5: been about me. I'm a team first kind of guy,
32:28
Speaker 5: and and I can't wait to start working with those people.
32:31
Speaker 3: Oh, Pascal, we appreciate this. We look forward to seeing
32:34
Speaker 3: you here out here, very very soon. And hey, finally
32:37
Speaker 3: we hear from a lot of people. You've got a
32:39
Speaker 3: big nature playground where you're moving to here in the
32:42
Speaker 3: Pacific Northwest, I mean away from hockey. Are you more
32:45
Speaker 3: of an outdoors guy? You more of a golf guy?
32:47
Speaker 3: Are you more of a get out and hike kind
32:49
Speaker 3: of guy? Or roam the city kind of guy?
32:52
Speaker 5: I'm more of a I grew up in a big city, well,
32:54
Speaker 5: a big city, Montreal. I grew up in the city,
32:57
Speaker 5: so I'm more. But I'm a very curious first, and
33:00
Speaker 5: so I'm willing to learn new stuff. I don't I
33:04
Speaker 5: didn't play golf a whole lot I play. I play
33:06
Speaker 5: a lot of I did. I don't have the time now.
33:09
Speaker 5: But pickle ball is something I like.
33:12
Speaker 3: Oh yes, but I like to be though.
33:14
Speaker 5: I like to be on my bike and running and
33:17
Speaker 5: go out outside and read. So I I but I'm curious.
33:21
Speaker 5: So I can't wait to be part of this of
33:25
Speaker 5: the community in Seattle and learn and and try to
33:29
Speaker 5: fit in.
33:30
Speaker 3: Actually, well, if you say pick a ball around here,
33:32
Speaker 3: you have found a lot of friends official stage sport,
33:35
Speaker 3: and it's not too hard to go find a paddle
33:37
Speaker 3: and find an open court here somewhere. But hey, Pascal,
33:40
Speaker 3: appreciate this, Thank you very much, Thank you all right.
33:43
Speaker 3: Great to have Pascal Vincent joining us here on overtime,
33:46
Speaker 3: Mike Benton al Kaniski, We're gonna have some final thoughts
33:48
Speaker 3: a bit, but pretty important to check him with more
33:51
Speaker 3: reaction based on today's news earlier with Patrick Alvin joining
33:55
Speaker 3: the Crack in front office Ian forness earlier today. You
33:59
Speaker 3: can hear them twelve to three week days on ninety
34:02
Speaker 3: three to three k JR. Yeah, Thomas Drant of the
34:05
Speaker 3: Athletic on the show My Mind.
34:07
Speaker 6: Ian, to be totally honest with you, the Krakens issue
34:11
Speaker 6: since inception has been a lack of star players. And
34:15
Speaker 6: I think they know this, and I think we know
34:17
Speaker 6: they know this because of their pursuit of our Timmy
34:19
Speaker 6: Panaren prior to the Olympic break this past spring. They
34:24
Speaker 6: need stars. They don't need good players like Bobby McMahon.
34:28
Speaker 6: They have a lot of good players. They've often had
34:30
Speaker 6: a lot of good players. In fact, this team's usually
34:32
Speaker 6: been pretty deep with good players. What they've lacked is
34:36
Speaker 6: the difference makers, the star level players. You know, Matty
34:38
Speaker 6: Veniers hasn't quite gotten there. Obviously, Shane Wright hasn't quite
34:42
Speaker 6: gotten there. You know, they have some really good defensemen,
34:45
Speaker 6: they have some solid forward depth. They've placed some interesting
34:49
Speaker 6: reclamation bets on guys like Capocaco that have paid off.
34:55
Speaker 6: And it doesn't matter because this is the starter of
34:56
Speaker 6: the league. You fundamentally need great players to win. And
35:01
Speaker 6: one of the issues the crack Can have had is
35:03
Speaker 6: that they kind of haven't been bad enough to hang
35:06
Speaker 6: out in the part of the draft where you get
35:08
Speaker 6: you know, first dips access to those guys. They're picking
35:12
Speaker 6: what seventh in the draft order this this year, they'll
35:14
Speaker 6: get a really good prospect, but there's going to be
35:16
Speaker 6: a material difference between that really good prospect and your
35:19
Speaker 6: McKenna ivar Stenberg types that will go one too at
35:23
Speaker 6: the NHL Entry Draft, And those are the types of players,
35:26
Speaker 6: those are the types of difference makers that the Kraken needs. So,
35:30
Speaker 6: you know, in my mind, anyway, I think it was
35:33
Speaker 6: fine given sort of how Seattle was pacing and where
35:36
Speaker 6: they were in the standings, and how important it is
35:38
Speaker 6: in your market for that to stand out in a
35:43
Speaker 6: crowded field to buy. But I don't know that you
35:47
Speaker 6: necessarily have to chase it by breaking the bank for
35:51
Speaker 6: a Bobby McMahon type. You know, more than anything, I
35:54
Speaker 6: think the krack and need to be diligent in avoiding
35:58
Speaker 6: the small move that maybe prevents you down the line
36:01
Speaker 6: from making the sort of big move, the tectonic, you know, land,
36:05
Speaker 6: the big star type player trade that I think the
36:08
Speaker 6: krackt need to need to accomplish or pull off more
36:11
Speaker 6: than they need just about anything. So, you know, really
36:14
Speaker 6: the storyline that I'm most closely monitoring in Seattle is
36:18
Speaker 6: the Shane Wright saga and whether or not that's a
36:21
Speaker 6: shit that they end up playing over the course of
36:25
Speaker 6: this offseason, perhaps in pursuit of, you know, a player
36:29
Speaker 6: that has a shot or is already established as a
36:32
Speaker 6: top of the lineup type piece.
36:34
Speaker 3: All right, that was Ian Farness and Thomas Drantz from
36:37
Speaker 3: earlier today, Very quick, it's June eleventh, and we are
36:42
Speaker 3: still awaiting the final results here of this audit, and
36:46
Speaker 3: from what I have gathered here with this. I spoke
36:51
Speaker 3: with the team source who confirm that we should be
36:53
Speaker 3: getting word very very soon on the results of this audit,
36:57
Speaker 3: possibly as early next weeks. That would line up well
37:01
Speaker 3: with what they're communicating to fans two season ticket holders
37:05
Speaker 3: here with a new direction of this team where they're
37:07
Speaker 3: going to be basically changing course, and then that would
37:10
Speaker 3: lead basically seamlessly into the NHL drafts. So, I mean,
37:14
Speaker 3: for how long al this is gone? I mean, are
37:17
Speaker 3: they going to make a major move in the front
37:18
Speaker 3: office or is this going to be just kind of
37:20
Speaker 3: like a philosophy change, if you will. We really don't
37:24
Speaker 3: know yet. I mean, this is kind of where we're
37:25
Speaker 3: just kind of waiting on hand and or we're waiting
37:27
Speaker 3: on pins and needles, if you can, to know what's
37:30
Speaker 3: going to happen here from this audit. But I mean,
37:32
Speaker 3: I think Patrick Alvin entering the equation of this shows
37:35
Speaker 3: that change is going to be coming in some shape
37:39
Speaker 3: or form, depending upon where they want to go with
37:40
Speaker 3: this roster.
37:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of things, Mike. Number one is, you know,
37:45
Speaker 4: I believe we were expecting to hear something on this
37:47
Speaker 4: audit in May. Okay, here we are June eleventh. I
37:51
Speaker 4: don't care. You don't do this every year. You don't
37:54
Speaker 4: do this audit every year. If you're going to do it,
37:56
Speaker 4: do it right. If you need two more weeks to
37:58
Speaker 4: do it right, I don't care. Take the two weeks
38:00
Speaker 4: and do it right. I don't want to see it
38:02
Speaker 4: rush just to get something out in May, So I
38:05
Speaker 4: don't have an issue with it taking a little bit
38:07
Speaker 4: more time. What I'm excited to know about is what
38:10
Speaker 4: the results are, what the results are, and what the
38:13
Speaker 4: actions are that are are going to be taking as
38:15
Speaker 4: a result of those results, so to speak. So take
38:19
Speaker 4: the time you need, uh, but be transparent. Let to
38:23
Speaker 4: let the people know what was uncovered, what was recommended,
38:25
Speaker 4: and what what you're going to do with those recommendations.
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Speaker 4: That's what That's what I'm interested in.
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Speaker 3: Here, and that I think is the biggest key when
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Speaker 3: you want to know what's going to happen. Transparency is
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Speaker 3: the biggest key to understand direction and then you pick
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Speaker 3: your direction and move with it. That is what I
38:40
Speaker 3: think where a lot of folks are at, you know,
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Speaker 3: when they're asking where's this team going to go with this?
38:45
Speaker 3: Because again to two courses, you're going to either tear
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Speaker 3: the whole thing down or you're going to aggressively retool.
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Speaker 3: And the HINTSAV said aggressively retool is dooring number two
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Speaker 3: or they're you know, walking in here with this. But again,
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, this audit is going to at
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Speaker 3: least show that there has to be a change in
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Speaker 3: how they're doing this. So transparency, yes, al I think
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Speaker 3: to be able to communicate what happened, what went wrong,
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Speaker 3: and how you're changing course and how you're doing things
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Speaker 3: here moving forward, that's gonna be the most important key
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Speaker 3: as we enter late June and early July.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's what they owed to the fans
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Speaker 4: to share that information, and I believe that Todd Lewicki
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Speaker 4: will do just that, and I think it'll be a
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Speaker 4: very comprehensive report that comes out from him that says
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Speaker 4: this is what we learn and this is what we're doing.
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Speaker 4: And I would expect nothing less than that.
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Speaker 3: We've seen some moving and shake, and already we'll see
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Speaker 3: when there's gonna be a little bit more movement maybe
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Speaker 3: for this roster, because once Stanley Cup Final is all done,
39:43
Speaker 3: then trade news what's gonna happen with Dylan Larkin, Matt
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Speaker 3: Barzel's name is being thrown out there. Seattle t Birds fans,
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Speaker 3: I know that you're watching this. Jordan Kayro's name still
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Speaker 3: is floating out there. I think I mean July one, Listen,
39:56
Speaker 3: We're not going to see much movement. It might be
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Speaker 3: one of the most free agency periods we have seen
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Speaker 3: in years, and we thought maybe last year was dry
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Speaker 3: as well. The trade market is going to run laps
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Speaker 3: around this off season with names that could possibly be moved.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I agree. It's one of those things where you know,
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Speaker 4: sometimes it's a play from from from an agent to
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Speaker 4: help the player, you know, to put their name out there.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's not and the player actually wants to move,
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Speaker 4: but you don't know what no trade clauses they have
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Speaker 4: in their contract. Just because the names out there doesn't
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Speaker 4: mean that they're that that they could end up in Seattle. So, yeah,
40:33
Speaker 4: all these names are are interesting. You got to find
40:37
Speaker 4: the right person, as I said earlier, that's going to
40:40
Speaker 4: be the right fit in Seattle. That solves a problem
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Speaker 4: for them as well as solving a problem for Seattle.
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Speaker 3: Cracken, We're gonna come right back by the way and
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Speaker 3: to have more conversation of course, with the NHL draft
40:52
Speaker 3: in folks, we're going to drop some news here when
40:53
Speaker 3: we're going to be doing all of this wall to
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Speaker 3: wall cover, it's going to be very exciting, but we're
40:58
Speaker 3: going to get that news to you. The Stanley Cup
41:01
Speaker 3: Final it will go six games, I mean five games
41:06
Speaker 3: so far, riveting stuff, and this is the least that
41:11
Speaker 3: you could ask for because you're not getting well. Folks
41:14
Speaker 3: would call the glitzy match up here with say and
41:18
Speaker 3: I'm just using, for example, the New York Rangers and
41:22
Speaker 3: Los Angeles Kings, or major market Montreal, say versus major
41:27
Speaker 3: market Chicago. So I mean to have Vegas in Carolina,
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Speaker 3: not your largest markets, but still plenty of star power
41:36
Speaker 3: to throw around. I mean, Carolina is lacking it a
41:39
Speaker 3: bit more, I think, compared to Vegas. But it just
41:42
Speaker 3: seems like nothing is certain for these first five games.
41:46
Speaker 3: And if I can use golf terms, it almost kind
41:48
Speaker 3: of feels like the Ryder Cup, where you expect the unexpected.
41:51
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, I'm not a betting guy,
41:54
Speaker 4: but I got to believe that a lot of people
41:55
Speaker 4: went to Vegas and bet the under in a lot
41:58
Speaker 4: of these games. As far as goring gos and it
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Speaker 4: certainly has not been the case. And I think it's
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Speaker 4: surprised a lot of people that the two best teams
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Speaker 4: in the NHL this year, going head to head for
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Speaker 4: the Cup are putting up three, four, five goals each
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Speaker 4: every game. And it's been very entertaining to watch, to
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Speaker 4: say the least. Yeah, I feel bad for the goalies obviously,
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Speaker 4: you know they don't want to get shout and allow
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Speaker 4: for or five six goals whatever.
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Speaker 3: If you didn't trap the pads on, you don't feel
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Speaker 3: bad for them at all.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, as a guy that never played goal I
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Speaker 4: love it.
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Speaker 3: Five games. We have seen drastic lead changes, We have
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Speaker 3: seen overtime. I would not be surprised if we see
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Speaker 3: seven games. I would not be surprised if we see
42:41
Speaker 3: triple overtime in seven games.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's going back to Vegas, but I suspect
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Speaker 4: this is going to go six at least six, likely seven.
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Speaker 3: All Right, we're gonna keep our eye on this in
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Speaker 3: the meantime, folks.
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Speaker 1: Again.
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Speaker 3: June twenty sixth day of one NHL draft crack and
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Speaker 3: half not one, but two first round picks will also
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Speaker 3: seventh overall and there is a delectable name potentially on
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Speaker 3: the menu, and what is also near the top, a
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Speaker 3: defenseman heavy draft as well. Maybe not gonna get your
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Speaker 3: shot at Gavin McKenna. It looks like Toronto loves him,
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Speaker 3: wants him, can't live without him, but still who might
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Speaker 3: be coming their way at seventh Overall, we'll talk more
43:22
Speaker 3: about this leading up to the draft and also cover
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Speaker 3: news that we'll also share with you coming very very soon.
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Speaker 3: But that will do it for now, Big banks once again,
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