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- 0:04Speaker 1: Welcome to Aaron Manke's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of
- 0:07Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Grimm and Mild. Our world is full of
- 0:14Speaker 1: the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, all
- 0:18Speaker 1: of these amazing tales right there on display, just waiting
- 0:22Speaker 1: for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet of Curiosities.
- 0:36Speaker 1: When we're young, we tend to fear the prospect of death.
- 0:39Speaker 1: We haven't lived our lives yet, and we don't know
- 0:41Speaker 1: what awaits us on the other side, if there even
- 0:44Speaker 1: is another side. Those who have lived long, fulfilling lives, however,
- 0:48Speaker 1: might see death as the next frontier. After all they've
- 0:51Speaker 1: seen and done it all over here. The idea of
- 0:53Speaker 1: the unknowing might not seem so terrifying to them. But
- 0:57Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties, one man set out to prove
- 1:00Speaker 1: the unprovable by doing the unthinkable. His name was Thomas Bradford,
- 1:05Speaker 1: a professor in Detroit, Michigan. Bradford held a number of
- 1:08Speaker 1: jobs over the course of his life. He dabbled in acting, sports,
- 1:12Speaker 1: and engineering, but later on he found himself swept up
- 1:15Speaker 1: in the spiritualism movement that had captivated people during the
- 1:18Speaker 1: nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. He was one of the
- 1:20Speaker 1: many individuals who conducted and attended seances attempting to communicate
- 1:25Speaker 1: with spirits from beyond the grave, an interest that no doubt,
- 1:29Speaker 1: had been catalyzed by the loss of his wife sometime earlier.
- 1:32Speaker 1: As well. Spiritualism had taken off in the years following
- 1:35Speaker 1: the Civil War, and although many so called mediums were
- 1:39Speaker 1: nothing more than opportunistic fraudsters, the idea that the dead
- 1:42Speaker 1: were never really gone proved comforting to those in mourning.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Harry Houdini's wife, Bess, famously held a seance every year
- 1:50Speaker 1: in the hopes of talking to her beloved husband one
- 1:52Speaker 1: more time, and yet he never showed up. And so
- 1:55Speaker 1: it was natural for someone like Bradford to look at
- 1:58Speaker 1: the griffs being carried out and do a little bit
- 2:01Speaker 1: more digging. More than anything, he just wanted proof, proof
- 2:04Speaker 1: that these spirits were really there somewhere, waiting to chat
- 2:08Speaker 1: with their living loved ones. In other words, he wanted
- 2:11Speaker 1: proof that there was an afterlife. To test this, Bradford
- 2:15Speaker 1: came up with in experiments, one which required an assistant
- 2:18Speaker 1: to help complete. He placed an ad in the local
- 2:21Speaker 1: newspaper seeking someone with a passion for spiritualistic science. He
- 2:25Speaker 1: received a response from a woman named Ruth Dorin. Dorian
- 2:29Speaker 1: was not a spiritualist, nor did she believe in the
- 2:32Speaker 1: veracity of things like seances or automatic writing. She was
- 2:36Speaker 1: reported as saying, I answered his advertisement through a simple
- 2:39Speaker 1: desire to know more about a thing in which I
- 2:42Speaker 1: was little versed. In a way, they were opposite sides
- 2:46Speaker 1: of the same coin. Both Bradford and Dorian wanted the truth,
- 2:49Speaker 1: but they each had different motives. He wanted to believe
- 2:52Speaker 1: the afterlife was real, whereas she was just hoping for
- 2:56Speaker 1: a little more clarity on a subject that she knew
- 2:58Speaker 1: nothing about. So Bradford explained his experiment to her. According
- 3:03Speaker 1: to a note the police found on his typewriter after
- 3:06Speaker 1: it was all over, it is through scientific facts that
- 3:09Speaker 1: I proposed to demonstrate clearly the phenomena of spirits and
- 3:13Speaker 1: prove that all the phenomena is outside the domain of
- 3:16Speaker 1: the supernatural. How he was able to prove the existence
- 3:19Speaker 1: of a realm beyond the living, though well, he had
- 3:22Speaker 1: to go there by taking his own life. He believed
- 3:25Speaker 1: that once he reached the afterlife, he'd be able to
- 3:28Speaker 1: communicate with these still alive. Dorian Bradford carried out his
- 3:32Speaker 1: tests on February fifth of nineteen twenty one. After sealing
- 3:35Speaker 1: his apartment, he turned on his heater and blew out
- 3:38Speaker 1: the pilot light. The room filled with gas as Bradford
- 3:41Speaker 1: laid down on his bed waiting for the inevitable. He
- 3:45Speaker 1: was only forty eight years old. The police soon discovered
- 3:49Speaker 1: his body and questioned miss Doran about her involvement. She
- 3:52Speaker 1: claimed that he had not explained exactly what he was
- 3:55Speaker 1: going to do, only that he intended to prove that
- 3:57Speaker 1: the dead and the living could communicate between realm, a
- 4:01Speaker 1: fishy alibi given her involvement, but it was enough to
- 4:03Speaker 1: satisfy the police, who ruled his death a suicide. She
- 4:08Speaker 1: later told the press, I am his friend. If he
- 4:11Speaker 1: can cause his spirit to come back to earth, I
- 4:13Speaker 1: believe his spirit will come to me. First hours passed
- 4:16Speaker 1: without a word from Bradford, and over the following days
- 4:19Speaker 1: a number of stories were published about what he had
- 4:22Speaker 1: done to himself. It all ended with a fairly definitive
- 4:26Speaker 1: article published in The New York Times on February eighth
- 4:29Speaker 1: of nineteen twenty one, three days after the incident. The
- 4:32Speaker 1: headline read dead spiritualist silent I guess he finally got
- 4:38Speaker 1: his answer. Boxing is a strategic sport, one that requires
- 4:56Speaker 1: more than just strong arms and quick feet. It's about
- 4:58Speaker 1: understanding Europe and knowing everything about them, from their strengths
- 5:02Speaker 1: and weaknesses to their go to moves in the ring.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Boxing is just as much about your mind as it
- 5:09Speaker 1: is about your fists. Although every now and then a
- 5:11Speaker 1: fighter can find themselves getting help without even knowing it.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Could it be intervention from a higher power maybe, or
- 5:18Speaker 1: maybe they can see what's going to happen on fight
- 5:20Speaker 1: nights before anybody else, like Sugar Ray Robinson. Robinson was
- 5:25Speaker 1: actually born Walker Smith Junior in nineteen twenty one. His
- 5:28Speaker 1: father had started out as a farmer before moving the
- 5:31Speaker 1: family to Detroit, where he found jobs in construction and
- 5:34Speaker 1: as a sewer worker. After his parents divorced, though, Smith
- 5:38Speaker 1: and his mother moved to Harlem in New York City,
- 5:40Speaker 1: where he had originally planned on becoming a doctor, but
- 5:43Speaker 1: come high school, he quickly realized that his passions lived elsewhere.
- 5:47Speaker 1: He dropped out of school and started training as a boxer.
- 5:50Speaker 1: He tried to compete in his first boxing tournament when
- 5:53Speaker 1: he was only fourteen years old, but the Amateur Athletic
- 5:56Speaker 1: Union required him to be a member first, a feat
- 5:59Speaker 1: he'd be unable to accomplish for another two years. But
- 6:02Speaker 1: Smith was resourceful. He borrowed the identity of another young
- 6:06Speaker 1: boxer named Ray Robinson, who had given up the sport,
- 6:09Speaker 1: and so from that point on, Walker Smith Junior became
- 6:12Speaker 1: known as Ray Robinson. The nickname Sugar Ray came about
- 6:15Speaker 1: what a spectator was heard describing him as sweet as sugar,
- 6:19Speaker 1: and it stuck. Robinson worked his way up, gaining a
- 6:23Speaker 1: reputation as an unbeatable opponent. He fought and won forty
- 6:27Speaker 1: matches before facing his first loss in a rematch against
- 6:30Speaker 1: rival Jake Lamatta in the early nineteen forties. As a
- 6:34Speaker 1: welterweight fighter, in nineteen forty six, he secured a record
- 6:37Speaker 1: of seventy three wins and the title, which he successfully
- 6:40Speaker 1: defended several times over the next year. In nineteen forty seven,
- 6:44Speaker 1: though Robinson would come face to face with an opponent
- 6:47Speaker 1: he couldn't knock out. It wasn't another fighter. Maybe it
- 6:50Speaker 1: was fear, or perhaps fate had laced up its own
- 6:52Speaker 1: pair of gloves to take him on. Whatever it was
- 6:55Speaker 1: it scared him enough to make him want out. Robinson
- 6:58Speaker 1: was slated to fight old boxer named Jimmy Doyle. Doyle
- 7:02Speaker 1: was a few years younger than Sugar Ray. His parents
- 7:04Speaker 1: came from New Orleans before moving to Los Angeles, California,
- 7:07Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty one. This wasn't a regular match either.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Robinson was defending his title once again and Doyle was
- 7:15Speaker 1: ready to take it. But the night before the bout,
- 7:17Speaker 1: Robinson was awakened by a dream, well more like a nightmare.
- 7:22Speaker 1: He dreamt that he had knocked out Doyle, not an
- 7:25Speaker 1: uncommon feat in the fighter's line of work. He had
- 7:27Speaker 1: knocked out plenty of guys before, but this felt different.
- 7:31Speaker 1: In the dream, Sugar Ray kept screaming at his unconscious
- 7:34Speaker 1: opponent to get up, Get up, Jimmy. He kept shouting,
- 7:37Speaker 1: but the rival boxer wouldn't budge, and then Robinson woke
- 7:41Speaker 1: up to him. It was more than a dream. It
- 7:45Speaker 1: was a premonition that he wouldn't just beat Jimmy Doyle.
- 7:48Speaker 1: He believed that he was going to kill him. Robinson
- 7:51Speaker 1: told the promoters the next morning that he didn't want
- 7:53Speaker 1: to go through with the fight, but they assured him
- 7:56Speaker 1: that he had nothing to worry about. It had just
- 7:58Speaker 1: been a dream, nothing more. He even spoke to a
- 8:01Speaker 1: Catholic priest who also told him everything would be fine.
- 8:04Speaker 1: That was enough to put Robinson's fears to bed. On
- 8:07Speaker 1: June twenty fourth of nineteen forty seven, Sugar Ray, Robinson,
- 8:11Speaker 1: and Jimmy Doyle entered the ring. They punched and jabbed
- 8:14Speaker 1: for seven rounds until the eighth, when Robinson scored a
- 8:17Speaker 1: left hook that sent Doyle to the mat. He hit
- 8:21Speaker 1: the canvas hard and lost consciousness before being taken to
- 8:24Speaker 1: a local hospital. Doyle sadly never woke up. Hours after
- 8:29Speaker 1: being admitted, he was pronounced dead. It was the first
- 8:32Speaker 1: death of a boxer during a title fight, and it
- 8:35Speaker 1: shook Robinson to his core. Distraught over what had transpired,
- 8:40Speaker 1: Sugar Ray set up a trust fund for Doyle's parents,
- 8:43Speaker 1: which he paid fifty dollars into every month for the
- 8:45Speaker 1: next ten years. Robinson went on to become one of
- 8:48Speaker 1: the most famous and well respected boxers in the sport's history,
- 8:52Speaker 1: but he would be haunted by the death of Jimmy
- 8:53Speaker 1: Doyle his entire life. It had been a dream come
- 8:57Speaker 1: true in the worst way possible. I hope you've enjoyed
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- 9:17Speaker 1: by me Aaron Mankey in partnership with how Stuff Works.
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- 9:31Speaker 1: And until next time, stay curious.