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- 0:00Speaker 1: So it wouldn't be a Mister Ballin episode if I
- 0:02Speaker 1: didn't tell you a story. Yes, this story isn't really
- 0:05Speaker 1: on the internet. You have to write them a letter
- 0:07Speaker 1: to get access to this story.
- 0:09Speaker 2: You set up like a Bond story.
- 0:11Speaker 3: I had to like request access through headquarters due to
- 0:15Speaker 3: hear a story.
- 0:16Speaker 2: I don't know where it's going to go. It's good,
- 0:18Speaker 2: but I'm in dude.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Those stories become fully realized in bad thoughts. But it
- 0:22Speaker 1: seems like you at least had some concepts early.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Oh, some of them been sent with me for a while.
- 0:26Speaker 4: In part two where he's like, we need to sit
- 0:29Speaker 4: on that toilet together, the reason that that even exists
- 0:32Speaker 4: is I've always loved upsetting my mother, right, and I
- 0:35Speaker 4: know there's things that she doesn't want to ever talk about.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Right. It's so good. He wakes up in the cockpit,
- 0:42Speaker 1: has no idea how long he's been asleep for. Could
- 0:44Speaker 1: have been a second, could have been days, but he's
- 0:46Speaker 1: immediately shocked that, holy cow, I did not crash the plane.
- 0:50Speaker 2: That's a great story, all right.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Today is a very special episode. I'm actually trying out
- 0:56Speaker 1: a brand new format. But don't worry, it is not
- 0:59Speaker 1: a replace of core Mister Ballin content. This is in
- 1:02Speaker 1: addition to so we're calling it Storytime with Mister Ballin,
- 1:05Speaker 1: and I'm going to be interviewing a guest. I've never
- 1:08Speaker 1: done that before on any of my shows. This is
- 1:11Speaker 1: the first of its kind, and it's going to be
- 1:13Speaker 1: really good. We're going to look at the art of storytelling,
- 1:16Speaker 1: how my guest employees storytelling. We're going to tell some stories,
- 1:20Speaker 1: because of course it wouldn't be a Mister Ballin production
- 1:23Speaker 1: if there wasn't actual storytelling. And in fact, I'm going
- 1:26Speaker 1: to be telling a story that I've never shared anywhere.
- 1:29Speaker 1: It's a really good story. So that's going to happen
- 1:30Speaker 1: today too. And our guest is incredible. He's got movies
- 1:35Speaker 1: coming out, he's doing stand up specials left and right.
- 1:38Speaker 1: He also happens to be a fan of the strange,
- 1:40Speaker 1: dark and mysterious, and I'm really excited to talk to
- 1:43Speaker 1: him about the art of storytelling, swapping some stories and
- 1:47Speaker 1: just seeing what he's all about. So, without further ado,
- 1:50Speaker 1: let's get into today's stories.
- 2:07Speaker 2: This is Storytime with mister Balin. I'm Tom Segura.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Tom. Welcome to Storytime with mister Balin.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Thank you for being on the show. And for those
- 2:17Speaker 1: who somehow don't know who Tom Sgura is, you are
- 2:21Speaker 1: arguably one of the hottest comedians both physically and career
- 2:26Speaker 1: wise in the game. You are acting, producing, directing, You
- 2:30Speaker 1: are seriously everywhere right now. And one of the things
- 2:34Speaker 1: that I noticed about your sort of performance across mediums
- 2:38Speaker 1: is that you really are like a remarkably good storyteller.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Oh thanks man, You really have like nailed the art
- 2:43Speaker 1: of storytelling, even though oftentimes when you tell stories it's
- 2:46Speaker 1: sort of it seems sort of effortless. Yeah, but I mean,
- 2:49Speaker 1: is that were you ever sort of intentional about like
- 2:52Speaker 1: threading being a storyteller into your work.
- 2:54Speaker 4: I love storytelling. I've always loved storytelling. I've always been
- 2:59Speaker 4: like very hyper observant of good storytellers. My mom is
- 3:04Speaker 4: like an amazing natural storyteller, Like she has all all
- 3:09Speaker 4: the gifts that you need for great storytelling. And my
- 3:12Speaker 4: dad was as bad as you can get at telling
- 3:16Speaker 4: a story, like the single worst storyteller. A toddler tells
- 3:20Speaker 4: better stories. And so like you, I think it actually
- 3:23Speaker 4: helped to be like, oh shit, that's really good and like, god,
- 3:27Speaker 4: that was so bad. He would be like it was
- 3:30Speaker 4: in the store, and then the guy punched the guy,
- 3:35Speaker 4: so cops are there and you're like, wait, where what happened?
- 3:38Speaker 2: And like her version of that story would be like
- 3:42Speaker 2: there was one hundred people.
- 3:44Speaker 4: In line, which you know is an exaggeration, but like
- 3:46Speaker 4: that's part of storytelling, right, where to punch something up.
- 3:50Speaker 2: And she's like, and it was hot, and this man
- 3:53Speaker 2: walked in and he looked dirty. His head was so
- 3:56Speaker 2: she's like.
- 3:57Speaker 4: Painting a picture and you're like yeah. And then the
- 4:00Speaker 4: other guy he said move and you're telling to my dad,
- 4:02Speaker 4: You're like, what about Oh yeah, that guy.
- 4:05Speaker 2: You're like, that's that's the main guy of the story.
- 4:08Speaker 2: You don't have any think about. Oh yeah yeah, And
- 4:11Speaker 2: then he came all right, he's dirty.
- 4:13Speaker 4: It's like just none of it, like none of the information,
- 4:16Speaker 4: leaving out all the key information. Whereas she was like
- 4:20Speaker 4: a naturally dramatic storyteller, heightening parts of the story, drawing
- 4:25Speaker 4: you in telling like adding color right and then like
- 4:29Speaker 4: knowing when to pull the pin on the.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Whole, like just like natural.
- 4:33Speaker 4: What you realize is like when you're a like a
- 4:37Speaker 4: beginning as a comic, telling stories is actually it's kind
- 4:42Speaker 4: of advanced to get people to come along on a story.
- 4:45Speaker 4: It's it's it if you don't see like year one,
- 4:49Speaker 4: year two comics like, oh he's a great storyteller. It's
- 4:52Speaker 4: it's short for him. It's like because you're also you're
- 4:55Speaker 4: just not. You can't manufacture being a comfortable comic. It
- 4:59Speaker 4: had is because you've done it thousands of times and
- 5:02Speaker 4: you have to have a level of comfortability to be like,
- 5:06Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you stories.
- 5:08Speaker 1: So do you have like either a favorite or a
- 5:11Speaker 1: go to story that you would use on stage. It's
- 5:14Speaker 1: a joke, but like a story that you love to tell.
- 5:17Speaker 4: Probably the lost wallet story, because that's a true story.
- 5:20Speaker 4: It's about a guy named Justin Right, a guy who
- 5:23Speaker 4: lost his wallet in a cab. And the story is
- 5:27Speaker 4: that I'm sharing the cab with a woman and she
- 5:31Speaker 4: finds the wallet in between.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Us, asks of its mine.
- 5:35Speaker 4: I say it's not, and she's going to give it
- 5:36Speaker 4: to the driver, and I go, no, give it to me.
- 5:39Speaker 4: I'll give it back to its rightful owner.
- 5:41Speaker 2: And all this happened. I mean, this was in Adams
- 5:43Speaker 2: Morgan and DC.
- 5:44Speaker 4: And then I took it upon myself that I'm going
- 5:46Speaker 4: to return this wallet to its owner, like this righteous
- 5:49Speaker 4: kind of feel good, do the right thing path that
- 5:51Speaker 4: I'm gonna and I announced it, so now I feel
- 5:54Speaker 4: even more obligated. And I went through a number like
- 5:58Speaker 4: I put a lot of time into getting this wallet
- 6:00Speaker 4: back to this guy. I do call a bunch of places,
- 6:04Speaker 4: I use all the information I can find in it.
- 6:06Speaker 4: The only person I get a hold of is this
- 6:08Speaker 4: guy's father, Justin's dad. And when I tell him I
- 6:11Speaker 4: have the wallet, he's just like he's not going to
- 6:15Speaker 4: amount to anything like what He's like, he's a piece
- 6:18Speaker 4: of shit.
- 6:19Speaker 2: And I go, okay, can I give you the wall?
- 6:21Speaker 2: And he hung up the phone.
- 6:23Speaker 4: And so that was like this kind of crazy, you know,
- 6:27Speaker 4: closure to this of like the guys being like my
- 6:29Speaker 4: son sucks. And then a long while later I'm at
- 6:35Speaker 4: I mean, I still remember it quite vividly. I'm at
- 6:38Speaker 4: a lunch place on M Street in Georgetown and I'm
- 6:42Speaker 4: with my cousin and we sat down and we're just
- 6:47Speaker 4: looking over the menu, catching up and the waiter.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Walks up and I go Justin. He's like, how do
- 6:53Speaker 2: you know my name?
- 6:53Speaker 4: And I go, dude, I have your wallet, and he's like,
- 6:56Speaker 4: do you have an onion? I go, I don't walk
- 6:57Speaker 4: around with your fucking wallet. No, I have my wall,
- 7:00Speaker 4: but I actually have your wallet. And he was like, oh, cool,
- 7:06Speaker 4: you wanted something to drink. And I'm like that's all
- 7:08Speaker 4: you're gonna say about this, dude, like like I found
- 7:11Speaker 4: your wallet in a cab in Washington, DC. Like it
- 7:15Speaker 4: makes me crazy when somebody's reaction to something is like it.
- 7:21Speaker 4: And so I ended up telling him to come meet me,
- 7:25Speaker 4: and he came to the door and I was like expecting,
- 7:29Speaker 4: like now we're gonna connect. I gave him the wallet
- 7:33Speaker 4: and he was like cool, thanks, and then he turned
- 7:36Speaker 4: around and walked away, and I was like, you're a
- 7:38Speaker 4: dad's right, Like you're a piece of shit, and I
- 7:39Speaker 4: shut the door.
- 7:40Speaker 1: It's funny, Like so even just now, like the way
- 7:43Speaker 1: you tell a story is you understand that there are
- 7:45Speaker 1: aspects of the story that I need to appreciate the context, yes,
- 7:49Speaker 1: so that the story matters, and so like that you
- 7:52Speaker 1: just you turned it into.
- 7:53Speaker 4: Like context is like the biggest thing of joke telling too.
- 7:56Speaker 4: Sometimes like you watch I watch comedians that you go like, man,
- 8:00Speaker 4: that's really funny. Why isn't that working, Like why doesn't
- 8:03Speaker 4: it work? Because not that it's not funny? And you
- 8:07Speaker 4: go like, oh, you haven't. You need to convey more
- 8:09Speaker 4: information at the top, at the setup for that observation
- 8:16Speaker 4: and joke to work, Like.
- 8:18Speaker 2: They don't understand what the joke is about.
- 8:21Speaker 4: Yet the only reason you don't know the joke is
- 8:24Speaker 4: about is because you haven't set it up clearly, like
- 8:28Speaker 4: you need context for it to be funny.
- 8:31Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, dude, like how are you able
- 8:34Speaker 1: to do all of these things? I mean right now
- 8:36Speaker 1: you're doing stand up specials on Netflix, Like you have
- 8:40Speaker 1: a thousand of those. You have your amazing new show
- 8:43Speaker 1: Bad Thoughts. It's this incredible sketch comedy show on Netflix.
- 8:48Speaker 1: And the way I would describe it is like it
- 8:51Speaker 1: starts one way, each of these sketches, Yeah, and it's
- 8:54Speaker 1: beautiful cinematography, and you have a sense of where it's
- 8:58Speaker 1: going to go right, and then it just takes the
- 9:01Speaker 1: most ridiculous detour into just just crazy territory. And it
- 9:06Speaker 1: reminds me of there's this story by Edgar Allan Poe
- 9:09Speaker 1: called The Imp of the Perverse, and I'm not going
- 9:11Speaker 1: to get into it, but the gist of the story
- 9:13Speaker 1: is like he writes about this guy who he commits murder.
- 9:16Speaker 1: It's a fictional story. It's this guy he commits murder
- 9:18Speaker 1: and he gets away with it, and he can't believe
- 9:20Speaker 1: he's gotten away with murder, and so he becomes obsessed
- 9:23Speaker 1: with this idea that like he got away with it,
- 9:25Speaker 1: to the point where he's like, I got to tell
- 9:28Speaker 1: someone I got away with murder. And he begins talking
- 9:30Speaker 1: about it, and he eventually gets himself caught and he
- 9:32Speaker 1: gets executed. And it's like this notion from that story
- 9:35Speaker 1: that we all have these like thoughts that are self destructive,
- 9:39Speaker 1: that like, you're standing on the edge of a building
- 9:41Speaker 1: and your fear is not that you'll fall, it's that
- 9:43Speaker 1: you might jump. And I feel like your show bad thoughts.
- 9:47Speaker 1: It sort of encapsulates like the worst intrusive bad thought
- 9:50Speaker 1: that somebody in that scene could act on, and they do,
- 9:54Speaker 1: and it just chase it to this extreme level, like
- 9:57Speaker 1: how are you coming up with these stories?
- 9:59Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you very much for that.
- 10:00Speaker 1: I do appreciate it.
- 10:02Speaker 4: I've always felt this thing, and I think it's part
- 10:07Speaker 4: of the release that you feel in comedy, right when
- 10:11Speaker 4: you go to it. A lot of times you go
- 10:12Speaker 4: to a show and the big thing is people go, well,
- 10:15Speaker 4: what is it about it? It's like, well, he says
- 10:17Speaker 4: the thing that we all want to say, right like
- 10:20Speaker 4: or the comedian does in some way, and that's like
- 10:23Speaker 4: such a release for an audience that like they're saying it,
- 10:25Speaker 4: they're saying the thoughts.
- 10:29Speaker 2: And I've always.
- 10:32Speaker 4: Felt like that thing that I know, I feel that
- 10:35Speaker 4: human beings we all have dark thoughts, bad thoughts, right,
- 10:42Speaker 4: And part of it is like on an individual basis,
- 10:45Speaker 4: part of its societal norms where you just you have
- 10:49Speaker 4: your thought, but you don't act on it, right, I mean,
- 10:53Speaker 4: and then you just try to like process and then
- 10:56Speaker 4: you know, social media I think is this great example
- 10:59Speaker 4: of like, oh, these are things that nobody will say
- 11:02Speaker 4: to your face, right, but it's like this permission to
- 11:05Speaker 4: like and let it. And it's probably it's a release
- 11:08Speaker 4: for people to be able to be like I fuck.
- 11:10Speaker 2: Hate you like cool, it's really cool because they'll never
- 11:15Speaker 2: say it to you, right.
- 11:16Speaker 4: And so in like in coming up with these stories,
- 11:19Speaker 4: it's like, you know, the coffee shop one, yeah, was
- 11:24Speaker 4: one of the was the first thing we shot a
- 11:28Speaker 4: few years back. I actually filmed a few of the
- 11:31Speaker 4: stories a few years that's how I got the show,
- 11:33Speaker 4: and so coffee shop one was one of the original
- 11:37Speaker 4: ones we filmed before we had a series. And so,
- 11:40Speaker 4: but that is like an example of it's like, wish
- 11:44Speaker 4: everyone has had a bad retail experience right where.
- 11:48Speaker 2: You're like kill this person. And then it was like,
- 11:52Speaker 2: why don't we just make that Like yeah, why don't
- 11:53Speaker 2: we have.
- 11:54Speaker 4: The person deserve you know, backlash in some way and
- 11:59Speaker 4: just take over the top.
- 12:00Speaker 2: So we just like went to an extreme place and.
- 12:03Speaker 4: It's the one that got the by far, I think
- 12:06Speaker 4: the biggest reaction where people were like writing things to
- 12:09Speaker 4: be like yo, they deserved and like like cool, yeah
- 12:13Speaker 4: they did. They deserve to die for the bad coffee order.
- 12:19Speaker 4: But yeah, that's a fun, you know kind of way
- 12:22Speaker 4: to exercise the thoughts is like what if we think
- 12:25Speaker 4: of the thing we've always wanted to say or do
- 12:28Speaker 4: or the impulse in that moment and actually act naked.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:32Speaker 1: So, actually I saw in one of your earliest stand
- 12:35Speaker 1: up specials it was completely normal that some of these
- 12:38Speaker 1: ideas that popped up in bad thoughts, like the Steven
- 12:41Speaker 1: Seagal bit. Yeah, and the Barista one that the two
- 12:44Speaker 1: Headed Girl. It's like those stories become fully realized in
- 12:48Speaker 1: bad thoughts, But it seems like you at least had
- 12:50Speaker 1: some concepts early.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Oh some of them been sent with me for a while.
- 12:53Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, where or even like the origin the nugget
- 12:58Speaker 4: of the thing that became something else, Like there's a
- 13:02Speaker 4: the whole reason the storyline of the you know, the
- 13:07Speaker 4: the virtual reality.
- 13:08Speaker 5: Guy, it's so good, and that's the second episode, right, yeah,
- 13:13Speaker 5: because it's a it's a three part story, right, So
- 13:16Speaker 5: there's the there's the office where he gets like disrespected,
- 13:21Speaker 5: then he creates the video game, then you reveal that
- 13:24Speaker 5: it's a game, and then.
- 13:25Speaker 4: There's the the part three where it's like he's become
- 13:29Speaker 4: the successful guy.
- 13:31Speaker 2: Well in part two where.
- 13:33Speaker 4: He's like, we need to sit on that toilet together.
- 13:36Speaker 4: The origin, like the whole reason, Like what makes me
- 13:39Speaker 4: laugh is that the origin of that, The reason that
- 13:42Speaker 4: that even exists is I've always loved upsetting my mother, right,
- 13:46Speaker 4: and I know there's things that she doesn't want to
- 13:50Speaker 4: ever talk about, and one of them is going to
- 13:52Speaker 4: the bathroom. Right, She just doesn't want to. So I
- 13:55Speaker 4: try to say it as much as possible. That's good
- 13:58Speaker 4: and few, like several years ago, I would do father
- 14:02Speaker 4: son trips with my dad, like where I was working adult,
- 14:05Speaker 4: but I was like, he was like, you know, let's
- 14:07Speaker 4: plan something. We'd go spend like two three days in Portland,
- 14:11Speaker 4: Maine or something, you know, and then I go back
- 14:13Speaker 4: to LA. But we've been doing those trips for years
- 14:16Speaker 4: and like even twenty five thirty years ago, I was
- 14:22Speaker 4: a teenager or whatever. I would go on a trip
- 14:26Speaker 4: like with my dad. I get back and my mom
- 14:27Speaker 4: was like, how was the weekend? And I would go, well,
- 14:30Speaker 4: you know, it was great, and I go, you know
- 14:32Speaker 4: this one day, I go, you know, Dad was taking
- 14:35Speaker 4: a shit and she'd go, I don't want to hear this.
- 14:37Speaker 4: And I go, no, no, no, this is this is actually.
- 14:39Speaker 4: She goes, I don't want to hear this. I go,
- 14:42Speaker 4: it's not what you think. She's like, okay what. I
- 14:46Speaker 4: would go, So Dad was taking a shit and she'd
- 14:48Speaker 4: be like wow, okay, and I go, and you know
- 14:50Speaker 4: how when you sit on a toilet there's like a
- 14:53Speaker 4: gap between your legs and she'd go, yeah, I go,
- 14:56Speaker 4: so I had to go, and so I sat in
- 14:59Speaker 4: that gap and we went at the same time, and.
- 15:01Speaker 2: She'd be like, what the hell is boy?
- 15:03Speaker 4: And so I would do that to her, like every
- 15:05Speaker 4: couple of years, I would tell her the same thing.
- 15:08Speaker 2: She would never remember that.
- 15:09Speaker 4: I'd already told her that, oh, you used this, I
- 15:11Speaker 4: would use that exact thing that we went to the
- 15:14Speaker 4: bathroom with this same She was like, this is the
- 15:16Speaker 4: most disgusting thing I've ever heard. And I basically wrote
- 15:20Speaker 4: a story where I was like, how can I incorporate
- 15:24Speaker 4: going to the baths of the bathroom? And that's where
- 15:26Speaker 4: we created the portal world. But it's all based on that.
- 15:30Speaker 1: Do you have any concepts material that you do come
- 15:34Speaker 1: back to that you think about that that could work,
- 15:36Speaker 1: but you don't you haven't employed it in a public
- 15:39Speaker 1: way yet.
- 15:41Speaker 4: There is this thing where sometimes you go, you know,
- 15:45Speaker 4: you I've tried things and abandoned them, and then you
- 15:50Speaker 4: find that, like five or ten years later, you go, oh,
- 15:53Speaker 4: there was that joke.
- 15:55Speaker 2: You're like, I'm gonna try.
- 15:56Speaker 4: Ten years have gone by, so I'm naturally going to
- 15:59Speaker 4: have a like some difference in my approach to saying
- 16:03Speaker 4: it or telling it, and and it's one of those
- 16:06Speaker 4: things where sometimes you go like, holy shit, that works
- 16:09Speaker 4: now like it needed.
- 16:10Speaker 2: To marinate for a decade, but it is.
- 16:14Speaker 4: I think you you learn to listen as you listen
- 16:18Speaker 4: to yourself, right It's like it's kind of like you're
- 16:21Speaker 4: you're guiding voice internally, right of Like it's it's the
- 16:27Speaker 4: equivalent to like, don't walk down that hallway, you know,
- 16:29Speaker 4: Like I think the thing you have to work, like
- 16:34Speaker 4: work on if you're doing this is learning how to
- 16:38Speaker 4: listen to that list listen to yourself, like, hey man,
- 16:41Speaker 4: don't ignore those thoughts. Like I used to think that
- 16:45Speaker 4: laziness meant not getting up on stage, But what I
- 16:51Speaker 4: learned is that laziness in in comedy, like in stand up,
- 16:58Speaker 4: is about all the times you're not on stage. You
- 17:01Speaker 4: can get on stage every night and still be a
- 17:03Speaker 4: lazy comic. You know, you're lazy if you don't spend
- 17:08Speaker 4: some time kind of exploring your own thoughts, jotting down
- 17:13Speaker 4: that thing, thinking about like that, think that's the work.
- 17:17Speaker 4: You know, the work is in those all that time
- 17:20Speaker 4: before you get on stage. And so it's it's it
- 17:23Speaker 4: kind of surprises you. Someone could be like, you're not lazy,
- 17:26Speaker 4: You're you're doing spots all the time. You're like, no,
- 17:28Speaker 4: you're still lazy because you're not doing anything off stage.
- 17:33Speaker 4: I mean, one thing that's very clear is you see
- 17:36Speaker 4: comedians who are stuck, you know, like they're like, I'm
- 17:39Speaker 4: I feel stuck here.
- 17:40Speaker 2: I'm not evolving.
- 17:42Speaker 4: I would bet almost everything that a lot of the
- 17:46Speaker 4: people saying that are the ones who are not trying things,
- 17:50Speaker 4: not not it's like not doing that.
- 17:52Speaker 2: You always need like new, something new.
- 17:54Speaker 4: New is what makes it exciting and moving, and so
- 17:59Speaker 4: it's very easy to fall into that. Like you figure
- 18:03Speaker 4: out twenty minutes that work or whatever, yep, and you go,
- 18:07Speaker 4: I'm just gonna do that because it works, because you
- 18:09Speaker 4: get fear of like what if I leave that and
- 18:13Speaker 4: I try to come up with new stuff and the
- 18:15Speaker 4: new stuff doesn't hit like that. But then the worst
- 18:17Speaker 4: thing happens, which is that that twenty minutes that works
- 18:21Speaker 4: just starts to weigh on you because it's not exciting
- 18:26Speaker 4: or new in any way, and then you slowly kind
- 18:29Speaker 4: of die inside. That's why you kind of always want
- 18:32Speaker 4: to turn things over, Like I feel like you shoot
- 18:34Speaker 4: something or you record a special and then you just.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Go, I'm done with it and need I need to
- 18:39Speaker 2: come up with more.
- 18:40Speaker 4: And then your brain just kind of you know, you
- 18:43Speaker 4: beco you generate more because of the necessity.
- 18:48Speaker 1: The idea of like working on material, like going up
- 18:50Speaker 1: on stage to a live audience, yeah, and not even
- 18:53Speaker 1: telling them you're doing this, but like trying a new
- 18:55Speaker 1: minute or whatever. Yeah, is that something that you do?
- 18:58Speaker 4: I mean, oh yeah, that's I mean, that's the that's
- 19:02Speaker 4: the part you get addicted to. Really, the whole drive
- 19:05Speaker 4: of doing stand up. It's thinking of something and going
- 19:10Speaker 4: I'm going to try this on stage, and then the
- 19:15Speaker 4: build of anxiety of will this work or won't this work?
- 19:21Speaker 4: The absolute the euphoria that you feel when it does
- 19:26Speaker 4: work is like unlike any other feeling, which is why
- 19:31Speaker 4: I think comedians will do it.
- 19:32Speaker 2: Into their nineties if they live.
- 19:35Speaker 4: And then the absolute gutting depression you feel when it
- 19:38Speaker 4: doesn't is like so it's so powerful that you realize
- 19:43Speaker 4: the only way to overcome that feeling is to try
- 19:47Speaker 4: something again and hopefully get the other reaction.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Wow. So I can only speak to my limited I'm
- 19:54Speaker 1: not stand up comedy, but I've done stand up storytelling.
- 19:56Speaker 4: If you yeah, if you, if you have spoken in
- 19:58Speaker 4: front of an audience, yeah, yeah, But so.
- 20:00Speaker 1: In my world I already know the conclusion of all
- 20:02Speaker 1: the stories. I know exactly where it's going to go.
- 20:04Speaker 1: I remember I had one show that I did and
- 20:06Speaker 1: the audience was literally like so respectful. It was difficult
- 20:10Speaker 1: for me to get into the story because it's like
- 20:12Speaker 1: so proper, so nice, so quiet. The other crowds were
- 20:15Speaker 1: like really reacting to stuff, and it made it so
- 20:18Speaker 1: difficult to do the same stories I had rehearsed. I
- 20:21Speaker 1: can't imagine having the blow of them being like dude,
- 20:24Speaker 1: what was that, and then getting up and doing it again.
- 20:26Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
- 20:27Speaker 4: And the thing is there are audiences even sometimes in
- 20:30Speaker 4: stand up shows like you don't expect it, but you
- 20:33Speaker 4: get It's not like every crowd is the same.
- 20:35Speaker 2: Sometimes you get these very reserved crowds.
- 20:39Speaker 4: Yeah, where you're like used to people with like a
- 20:42Speaker 4: lot of energy and they're just like.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Like clapping at the end mmm mmmm the bit and
- 20:48Speaker 2: you're like Jesus.
- 20:49Speaker 4: The thing you learn over time is when an audience
- 20:54Speaker 4: isn't like super high energy or you go like this
- 20:58Speaker 4: audience sucks. Essentially, go hey, Like when you're starting out,
- 21:01Speaker 4: you're like, why do you guys suck? Because you don't
- 21:03Speaker 4: realize that sometimes and this is this is true. That
- 21:08Speaker 4: audience that was just like they weren't high energy, they
- 21:11Speaker 4: had a great.
- 21:12Speaker 2: Time, Like you don't.
- 21:13Speaker 4: You don't realize it until you've done this a while
- 21:16Speaker 4: that like you'll finish that show and.
- 21:17Speaker 2: You go, what the fuck was that?
- 21:20Speaker 4: And then you run into people and they're like that,
- 21:21Speaker 4: I had the best time at that, and you're like, wow, really,
- 21:24Speaker 4: because what happens is an audience for the most part,
- 21:30Speaker 4: they don't they're not referencing this show to thousands of
- 21:34Speaker 4: other shows. You are, like, you know that they're down
- 21:38Speaker 4: here on the list of audiences. They don't know that
- 21:41Speaker 4: that's true. They're just like like this might be the
- 21:43Speaker 4: first show they've gone to in like three years, and
- 21:46Speaker 4: they're like, this was a great time.
- 21:48Speaker 2: Wow, you're and they'll become aware if you tell them.
- 21:51Speaker 4: So you're like, just so you know, you suck and
- 21:54Speaker 4: they're like, I thought we were having a good time.
- 21:57Speaker 2: They just don't have that like level of it. Now.
- 22:00Speaker 2: The next night, you could be in a venue where
- 22:03Speaker 2: it is just like fireworks.
- 22:05Speaker 4: Yeah, and those ones you almost want to tell them,
- 22:09Speaker 4: you guys are unbelievable, Like they don't I don't know
- 22:13Speaker 4: if you know this, but you're insanely good.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that you are a consumer of the strange,
- 22:20Speaker 1: dark and mysterious. Yes, So it wouldn't be a Mister
- 22:22Speaker 1: Ballin episode if I didn't tell you a story. Yes,
- 22:25Speaker 1: And so we actually looked for a story that would
- 22:28Speaker 1: specifically resonate with you.
- 22:30Speaker 2: And I'm so excited.
- 22:31Speaker 1: And I also we even the way we got the story,
- 22:34Speaker 1: this is the context part. This story isn't really on
- 22:37Speaker 1: the internet, like we heard references to it, and we
- 22:41Speaker 1: tried to find the source material for it, but we couldn't,
- 22:43Speaker 1: Like we literally looked, we couldn't find it. It's a
- 22:46Speaker 1: story out of Mexico. And so we finally had our
- 22:48Speaker 1: Spanish language research or track down this library in Mexico
- 22:53Speaker 1: that had a copy of this story. There was a
- 22:56Speaker 1: very unique recording and transcript and it's being like locally
- 23:02Speaker 1: at this library in Mexico. And so the way to
- 23:05Speaker 1: access the story is you can't just like contact the library.
- 23:08Speaker 1: You have to write them a letter to get access
- 23:11Speaker 1: to this story, to hear a story, to just read
- 23:15Speaker 1: the transfer, read a transcript in the story. It's the
- 23:17Speaker 1: story without the transcript not really a good story. You
- 23:20Speaker 1: need the transcript you'll see. So we followed their steps.
- 23:23Speaker 1: We contact the library and we get access to the
- 23:26Speaker 1: story and they're like very weary of what we're gonna
- 23:29Speaker 1: do with it, but they're like, okay, be careful with
- 23:31Speaker 1: this one, right because it's like a sensitive story for Mexico.
- 23:34Speaker 2: Okay.
- 23:35Speaker 1: So that's the setup.
- 23:36Speaker 2: So this is, by the way, let's just up. Great setup.
- 23:39Speaker 1: Great set.
- 23:40Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know where this's going to go.
- 23:41Speaker 4: It's good, but I'm fucking in dude. I mean, you
- 23:44Speaker 4: just you set up like a Bond story.
- 23:46Speaker 1: Good.
- 23:47Speaker 3: I had to like request access through fucking headquarters to
- 23:52Speaker 3: hear a story.
- 23:53Speaker 2: Okay.
- 23:54Speaker 1: So in June of nineteen seventy six, there's this twenty
- 23:57Speaker 1: three year old kid named Rafael Perez and he's training
- 24:00Speaker 1: to be a pilot and he's flying. He flies his
- 24:04Speaker 1: training missions, if you will. He's a civilian, so he
- 24:06Speaker 1: flies his training flights out of this airport and a
- 24:09Speaker 1: Chimala kan Mexico. It's about three hours inland from Acopoco.
- 24:13Speaker 1: And this kid he's flown many times, but always with
- 24:16Speaker 1: another pilot. So he's learning how to fly a small
- 24:18Speaker 1: plane that Asessna. And on this day in June. He's
- 24:21Speaker 1: going to fly on his own for the first time.
- 24:23Speaker 1: The flight profile is very simple. You're going to take
- 24:26Speaker 1: off like you always have, fly in a loop, come
- 24:28Speaker 1: back and land, nothing more to it. You're basically demonstrating
- 24:31Speaker 1: you can do it without panicking on your own. Yeah,
- 24:34Speaker 1: and keep in mind, in nineteen seventy six, the controls,
- 24:36Speaker 1: the instruments inside of the aircrafts were pretty rudimentary, like
- 24:40Speaker 1: they didn't have GPS systems. It was sort of like
- 24:43Speaker 1: you had like your compass and you had your altimeter.
- 24:46Speaker 1: But honestly, a lot of flying was literally dead reckoning,
- 24:50Speaker 1: like looking out the window and just seeing where you
- 24:52Speaker 1: were right. So he takes off at nine to fifteen am.
- 24:55Speaker 1: It's June twenty third of nineteen seventy six. He takes
- 24:58Speaker 1: off and right away he notices that it's very foggy like,
- 25:03Speaker 1: and this is something he knew on the ground, but
- 25:04Speaker 1: from a dead reckoning perspective looking out the window, he's
- 25:08Speaker 1: got limited access to reference points on the ground, so
- 25:11Speaker 1: he really has not really a good sense of where
- 25:13Speaker 1: he is. He's using his instruments and he's sort of
- 25:15Speaker 1: guessing when he's supposed to make this turn to bank
- 25:17Speaker 1: around to come in and land, but on his approach
- 25:20Speaker 1: back to the airport he's successfully done this flight. He
- 25:23Speaker 1: can't quite find the airport, like he's struggling to see it.
- 25:27Speaker 1: But at a certain point, based on his instruments, he
- 25:29Speaker 1: realizes he's off course. He's lost, and so he tries
- 25:33Speaker 1: calling in with the radio back to the control tower
- 25:35Speaker 1: to be like, I'm lost, like and let you know,
- 25:36Speaker 1: it's going to take me a minute. He doesn't really
- 25:38Speaker 1: hear back from them. It's sort of garbled static. And
- 25:41Speaker 1: then he realizes, oh, I need to fly back left.
- 25:44Speaker 1: I need to go left. So he takes the yoke
- 25:46Speaker 1: the steering wheel and he tries to bank the airplane left,
- 25:50Speaker 1: but the airplane doesn't go left. It just continues flying
- 25:53Speaker 1: level at seven thousand feet in a straight line. And
- 25:56Speaker 1: he's thinking, okay, there's clearly some sort of issue here.
- 25:59Speaker 1: It's okay, he's not panicking. He hops in the radio
- 26:02Speaker 1: and he says, hey, I'm having some issues. I can't
- 26:04Speaker 1: go left. He tried going right. Nothing's affecting the plane.
- 26:06Speaker 1: It's flying straight at seven thousand feet. He hops in
- 26:09Speaker 1: the radio. He starts talking like what do I do here?
- 26:12Speaker 1: I can't do anything to my plane. And as he's
- 26:15Speaker 1: trying to get a hold of anybody, who's not getting
- 26:17Speaker 1: back in touch with him, but we have his voice
- 26:19Speaker 1: being recorded into this radio, the plane actually begins to climb,
- 26:23Speaker 1: and he's not pulling back on the yoke. He's not
- 26:25Speaker 1: making the plane climb. The plane is climbing on its own,
- 26:28Speaker 1: and so it begins to climb. And the way the
- 26:31Speaker 1: fog and mist was is there was like this big,
- 26:34Speaker 1: huge cloud that he was basically flying into. So he's
- 26:37Speaker 1: ascending up to like eight nine, ten thousand feet. He
- 26:39Speaker 1: can't go left, can't go right, He's just going straight
- 26:41Speaker 1: up into this cloud, and so he can't see anything.
- 26:44Speaker 1: He's like in a void. He's totally panicked. Now he
- 26:46Speaker 1: can't get a hold of anybody in the radio. About
- 26:49Speaker 1: the time he's totally obscured in the clouds, he feels
- 26:52Speaker 1: this overwhelming tiredness come over him and he passes out.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Passes out in the cockpit. He wakes up in the cockpit,
- 27:00Speaker 1: has no idea how long he's been asleep for. Could
- 27:02Speaker 1: have been a second, could have been days. But he's
- 27:04Speaker 1: immediately shocked that, holy cow, I did not crash the plane.
- 27:07Speaker 1: I know, I just fell asleep in the plane. But
- 27:09Speaker 1: a couple things immediately become clear to him. First of all,
- 27:12Speaker 1: his plane still flying, He's still in the air, he's
- 27:14Speaker 1: still coasting along right, but he's back down to seven
- 27:17Speaker 1: thousand feet. He was climbing before. Now he's back down
- 27:19Speaker 1: to seven thousand feet. He also looks out the window
- 27:22Speaker 1: and there's no more mist or fog or anything like that.
- 27:25Speaker 1: It's actually just the open ocean underneath him. And immediately
- 27:29Speaker 1: he thinks to himself, I took off from this airport.
- 27:33Speaker 1: That's three hours inland from the coast if I went
- 27:36Speaker 1: in a straight line. And he looks at his clock
- 27:38Speaker 1: and it says eleven thirty. Took up at nine fifteen,
- 27:41Speaker 1: ten fifteen, eleven fifteen, so two hours and fifteen minutes
- 27:44Speaker 1: from the time he took off. From doing the math right,
- 27:46Speaker 1: it's below three hours. What body of water am I over?
- 27:50Speaker 1: The amount of time that has transpired that apparently I
- 27:52Speaker 1: was asleep for, is not enough time for me to
- 27:55Speaker 1: arrive over any body of water, Let's flashes through his mind.
- 27:59Speaker 1: In addition to that, he looks at his gas gauge
- 28:01Speaker 1: and it's at three quarters tank and he knew that
- 28:04Speaker 1: not only is that way too high, but he wouldn't
- 28:06Speaker 1: have had Even if he had three hours, he wouldn't
- 28:09Speaker 1: have had enough gas to reach any water body. So
- 28:12Speaker 1: wouldn't have had enough gas, but have three quarter tank
- 28:15Speaker 1: of gas. Also, again, how did I get here? I
- 28:16Speaker 1: have no idea how I got here, has no idea
- 28:18Speaker 1: where he is. And as he's like coming to like
- 28:21Speaker 1: what's happening here, somebody chimes in over the radio and goes, hey, hey,
- 28:25Speaker 1: are you there? And he grabs this radio and he's
- 28:28Speaker 1: like he's totally frantic. He's like, hey, I fell asleep
- 28:30Speaker 1: in my plane. I don't know where I am. And
- 28:33Speaker 1: there's a pause, and this is all recorded. There's a pause,
- 28:36Speaker 1: and the guy on the other end, he introduces himself
- 28:39Speaker 1: sort of cautiously. He's like, hey, this is Carlos. Are
- 28:43Speaker 1: you alone in your airplane? And Raphael slip, of course,
- 28:47Speaker 1: I'm alone, Like where am I?
- 28:49Speaker 2: What?
- 28:49Speaker 1: I think? I fell asleep? I don't know what's going on.
- 28:51Speaker 1: And Carlos his reaction is just sort of okay, well listen,
- 28:55Speaker 1: here's what we're going to do. You're just off the
- 28:57Speaker 1: coast of Baca Poco and for the last hour you've
- 29:00Speaker 1: been flying out over the water. He just kind of
- 29:02Speaker 1: showed up right and by the way, going back to
- 29:04Speaker 1: the timeline, he arrived off the coast of Baca Poco
- 29:07Speaker 1: now an hour earlier. That was ten thirty in the morning,
- 29:09Speaker 1: took off at nine point fifteen. Takes three hours to
- 29:12Speaker 1: get there. He apparently did it about an hour and
- 29:14Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. So he's circling over the water and Carlos
- 29:16Speaker 1: is like, hey, just come into the airport where I am.
- 29:19Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you in there. You're going to land
- 29:21Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you then, and so Rafael is
- 29:23Speaker 1: just happy to be alive at this point. He comes in.
- 29:25Speaker 1: He lands at the airport in Acapoco, and as soon
- 29:28Speaker 1: as he gets off, there's these people in suits that
- 29:31Speaker 1: are there to meet him and they immediately take him.
- 29:33Speaker 1: They detain him, put him in like a black car.
- 29:35Speaker 1: He's asking what's going on. Nobody knows or they don't
- 29:38Speaker 1: tell him, and they drive him to a hospital and
- 29:40Speaker 1: he's the whole time saying, I'm so sorry about the craft.
- 29:43Speaker 1: Please tell the where I flew out of that. I'm
- 29:45Speaker 1: sorry about the craft. I hope it's not damaged. They
- 29:47Speaker 1: bring him to the hospital. They drug test him right away.
- 29:50Speaker 1: He's not on drugs, he's sober, and they also have
- 29:53Speaker 1: a psychologist come in and they give him a profile,
- 29:56Speaker 1: make sure he's sane, and she determines that he is.
- 29:59Speaker 1: And so the whole time Rafael has no idea what's happening.
- 30:01Speaker 1: He doesn't know what they're doing. He doesn't understand any
- 30:03Speaker 1: of this, and so finally they say, okay, we're going
- 30:05Speaker 1: to tell you what happened. So, when you showed up
- 30:09Speaker 1: off the coast of Bacca Poco at about ten thirty
- 30:12Speaker 1: in the morning, which no one understands how you got there,
- 30:14Speaker 1: it's not possible. You showed up on the radar screen
- 30:17Speaker 1: of who you were talking to, Carlos, the air traffic
- 30:19Speaker 1: control guy, and he talked to you for an hour
- 30:22Speaker 1: while you were out over the water. That whole time
- 30:24Speaker 1: you were circling, you were talking to him, and it
- 30:26Speaker 1: was recorded. And I'm going to read to you the
- 30:29Speaker 1: first thing that Rafael said to Carlos, and you're going
- 30:33Speaker 1: to see in a minute. Why Carlos's first question when
- 30:35Speaker 1: Rafael came to is there somebody else in the plane?
- 30:39Speaker 1: He said in a very deep, almost robotic voice. When
- 30:43Speaker 1: Carlos saw this blip on his radar at ten thirty,
- 30:45Speaker 1: he said, Hey, who is this. You're flying Oberaca Pocos Coast.
- 30:47Speaker 1: What's going on here? The voice came back and said,
- 30:51Speaker 1: the pilot is speaking, but not of his own free will.
- 30:54Speaker 1: We are using him as a microphone. Your equipment is
- 30:57Speaker 1: too primitive. It is not important to who we are
- 31:00Speaker 1: or where we come from, only that we are inhabitants
- 31:03Speaker 1: of the same universe. For the next thirty to forty
- 31:06Speaker 1: five minutes, the voice being projected through Rafael talked about
- 31:12Speaker 1: humanity is the only intelligent species in the entire universe
- 31:15Speaker 1: that uses warfare and conducts violence on each other, and
- 31:19Speaker 1: you are poised for a nuclear holocaust and you may
- 31:22Speaker 1: be exterminated if this continues. And then at about eleven thirty,
- 31:27Speaker 1: Rafael wakes up and his voice changed completely and he said, oh,
- 31:30Speaker 1: what's going on? I think I fell asleep at the wheel.
- 31:33Speaker 1: And that's why Carlos is like, wait a minute, I've
- 31:35Speaker 1: been talking to you for an hour, and He's like,
- 31:37Speaker 1: as somebody else in the craft with you, right, no
- 31:40Speaker 1: one has any idea how Rafael wound up over the coast.
- 31:45Speaker 1: They examined his plane. Nothing wrong with this plane. It
- 31:48Speaker 1: really was three quarter tanks of gas. Didn't make sense
- 31:51Speaker 1: how it got there. Nobody knows. Rafael has no idea
- 31:53Speaker 1: how he got there, and the Mexican government quickly took
- 31:56Speaker 1: this story, buried it, and I can only access it
- 31:59Speaker 1: in this obscure library in Mexico.
- 32:03Speaker 2: That's a great story.
- 32:04Speaker 1: So what's your take on what happened?
- 32:07Speaker 4: First of all, great job telling the story.
- 32:12Speaker 2: I mean, there is only one summary you could get.
- 32:16Speaker 4: You know, either this is like a I guess it's
- 32:18Speaker 4: too it's either a bipolar or schizophrenic who is having
- 32:23Speaker 4: a pretty crazy episode, or there's another being involved, which
- 32:28Speaker 4: is more exciting and more entertaining, because we're in the
- 32:34Speaker 4: era now of the government being like, yeah, we have stuff,
- 32:41Speaker 4: and we have aliens and they've been here and other
- 32:44Speaker 4: places have them too, and most people just go oh cool,
- 32:49Speaker 4: Like the thing that we used to make a movie
- 32:52Speaker 4: about as being like, can you imagine if there were aliens?
- 32:54Speaker 4: And everybody would go like that would be fucking wild.
- 32:57Speaker 4: And then now we're like, yeah, we have them, and
- 32:59Speaker 4: everyone's like, yeah, it's very strange, right Like that, there's
- 33:04Speaker 4: like congressional testimony. I know about aliens, nobody's heart even
- 33:09Speaker 4: skipped a beat. I thought we would all stop and
- 33:13Speaker 4: be like, no way, nobody cares.
- 33:15Speaker 1: I know some of the footage that's been released that
- 33:18Speaker 1: some of the videos of these apparent UFOs. Yeah, I mean,
- 33:22Speaker 1: either it's an incredible cgi, which is entirely possible, but
- 33:25Speaker 1: I think the idea that there's just like widespread conspiracy
- 33:29Speaker 1: by the government to dupe us into believing that maybe
- 33:32Speaker 1: there are that these aren't real or something. It doesn't
- 33:34Speaker 1: make any sense to me.
- 33:34Speaker 2: No, doesn't.
- 33:36Speaker 1: Do you believe in aliens, I mean extraterrestrials, life outside
- 33:39Speaker 1: of humans.
- 33:39Speaker 4: So for me, it was always like when you have
- 33:44Speaker 4: and I don't even have the full comprehension of it,
- 33:47Speaker 4: but when you have some grasp of the idea of
- 33:52Speaker 4: the size of our galaxies in the universe, it becomes
- 33:56Speaker 4: For me, it just always felt like too arrogant to
- 33:59Speaker 4: be like, it's just us.
- 34:00Speaker 1: Yes, I stand with you firmly on that point.
- 34:03Speaker 4: Yeah, And then like, I think the natural thing is
- 34:06Speaker 4: that used to become naturally more curious. You know, my
- 34:08Speaker 4: wife is a huge like dude, it's all day She's
- 34:12Speaker 4: like you know what this guy just said about UAPs.
- 34:14Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know, and she gives me like,
- 34:17Speaker 2: like the She'll read back.
- 34:18Speaker 4: The transcript from like the Senator, and I'm like, wow,
- 34:20Speaker 4: that's pretty well.
- 34:22Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
- 34:22Speaker 4: But honestly, it's made me realize that it is a
- 34:26Speaker 4: more exciting thing to like, of course think about and
- 34:30Speaker 4: talk about. And then I mean, I think the natural
- 34:33Speaker 4: thing is like it feels like it's almost like being
- 34:36Speaker 4: crumbed out for us.
- 34:37Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, but where's the where's the next thing?
- 34:40Speaker 1: Right?
- 34:40Speaker 4: Like when are we gonna see or hear from something?
- 34:45Speaker 2: You know, like you just want more.
- 34:47Speaker 1: That point exactly. I think it was Neil ed DeCross
- 34:50Speaker 1: Tyson who gave this example. I don't know if it
- 34:52Speaker 1: was him, the astrophysicist guy. Yeah, he was like, humans
- 34:56Speaker 1: think that if there were alien life, extraterrestrial life on
- 34:59Speaker 1: Earth that effectively we believe we could just simply identify it,
- 35:05Speaker 1: that you would view it as like a three dimensional being,
- 35:07Speaker 1: let's say. But he was like, think of it this way.
- 35:11Speaker 1: What are the odds or should say, when you walk
- 35:13Speaker 1: down the street and there is an ant on the ground,
- 35:17Speaker 1: are you like, I want to get down there and
- 35:19Speaker 1: talk to that ant. No, you might step on the end.
- 35:22Speaker 1: You might not even notice the ant go even lower
- 35:25Speaker 1: than that to like algae, Are you looking to communicate
- 35:28Speaker 1: with algae? No, what's to say that we are not
- 35:32Speaker 1: equivalent to an ant or algae to other beings? Suggesting
- 35:38Speaker 1: if there were higher beings on this planet, it's very
- 35:42Speaker 1: arrogant to say we would simply one they'd be interested
- 35:45Speaker 1: in us. Are you interested in algae? Or two that
- 35:47Speaker 1: we could even recognize them as anything close to what
- 35:50Speaker 1: we are. Algae and humans couldn't be more different in
- 35:52Speaker 1: terms of their makeup, and so it's like they could
- 35:55Speaker 1: absolutely be here, but they're four dimensional.
- 35:57Speaker 4: Imagine the aliens watching like there's just like trying to
- 36:00Speaker 4: figure out and they just pull up this clip and
- 36:03Speaker 4: they're just like, look, these two fucking ants like talking
- 36:06Speaker 4: about the dumbest shits too.
- 36:08Speaker 2: We want to waste our time with these morons.
- 36:11Speaker 4: Also, there's also the theory that it becomes you know,
- 36:14Speaker 4: it feels like fantasy, but I don't know, you can
- 36:18Speaker 4: let your mind kind of embrace the idea that certain
- 36:21Speaker 4: humans you're like, that's.
- 36:23Speaker 2: A reptilian, like you know what I mean?
- 36:26Speaker 4: Like that's a like these evil like these like innately
- 36:29Speaker 4: evil seeming people. Yeah, and I don't know that they're
- 36:32Speaker 4: already here. You're like, it's kind of fun to to
- 36:36Speaker 4: play with that idea.
- 36:37Speaker 2: I like to believe. Man, Yeah, I did fun. It's fun.
- 36:39Speaker 1: So for you, I mean, I I you've been successful
- 36:44Speaker 1: in so many different mediums. You know, you just got
- 36:46Speaker 1: renewed for season two of Bad Thoughts, which was amazing.
- 36:49Speaker 1: You've sort of done like all of it. What's the
- 36:54Speaker 1: next chapter? Like you described evolving, I mean, you've done
- 36:57Speaker 1: a lot of that.
- 36:57Speaker 2: What's next?
- 36:59Speaker 4: Honestly, it's I mean, I keep doing as many of
- 37:02Speaker 4: those things as you can. And then it's I have
- 37:07Speaker 4: a movie this summer I'm really excited to do. I've
- 37:11Speaker 4: always loved movies, Like, I'm a huge fan of cinema,
- 37:16Speaker 4: and so for me, it's like I feel like I
- 37:20Speaker 4: won the lottery where I get to, like, I get
- 37:23Speaker 4: to do a movie.
- 37:24Speaker 2: This is so awesome. I'm so excited to do it.
- 37:27Speaker 1: And tell something about the movie.
- 37:29Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a cartel comedy. I get to
- 37:35Speaker 4: play more than one character. I get to play two characters,
- 37:37Speaker 4: which is.
- 37:37Speaker 2: Like it just feels insane.
- 37:40Speaker 4: That they're allowing me to do this, and it's really
- 37:43Speaker 4: really funny script as it's so ridiculous, and it's a
- 37:49Speaker 4: it's an R rated comedy. It's wild, it's wild, it's fun.
- 37:53Speaker 4: But it also has like a lot to me, like
- 37:55Speaker 4: the thing that I loved about great comedies growing up,
- 37:58Speaker 4: especially like R rated comedies. Yeah, was like you almost
- 38:02Speaker 4: take the comedies for granted, that the comedic parts of it.
- 38:06Speaker 4: It's like you have to have great story supporting the
- 38:10Speaker 4: comp Like it's almost like you go, like, I know
- 38:12Speaker 4: this is gonna be funny, but is the story a
- 38:16Speaker 4: good story? And I think this is a really good
- 38:18Speaker 4: story that has like great dynamics, great characters, and it's
- 38:23Speaker 4: outrageously funny, but you still care for this main character.
- 38:29Speaker 4: And I mean, I'm talking to you about six weeks
- 38:33Speaker 4: before we shoot.
- 38:35Speaker 2: I hope if they'll definitely cut this up and plate
- 38:40Speaker 2: and if we make a.
- 38:41Speaker 1: Piece of so good.
- 38:42Speaker 2: But I'm very excited to do it. I'm so excited.
- 38:45Speaker 4: So that's to me, like the most exciting thing about
- 38:48Speaker 4: like what's next. I'm like, I'm so stoked to do this.
- 38:50Speaker 4: I've always been. I moved to La when I was
- 38:53Speaker 4: twenty two thinking that like, I'm gonna have a.
- 38:56Speaker 2: Movie career and forty six we're gonna do a movie.
- 39:00Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll do Congratulations and seriously, you need to check
- 39:03Speaker 1: out Bad Thoughts.
- 39:04Speaker 2: Thank you Flicks.
- 39:05Speaker 1: Season two is very exciting. I look forward to your
- 39:07Speaker 1: movie You're the Man, dude.
- 39:08Speaker 2: Thank you, Sure Man Loud, thank you, thank you.
- 39:12Speaker 1: H