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Best of Chuck & Buck 6-1 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 3: Are you writing this down? This is Chuck and Buck
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  Speaker 3: in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: You people are beyond you.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go, Let's get the game off. Oh great morning
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  Speaker 1: to all of you wonderful souls out there that have
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  Speaker 1: a love of sports and sports talk radio. It is
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  Speaker 1: great to have you with us, even those of you
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  Speaker 1: that are a bit indifferent and came across this by mistake.
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  Speaker 4: Great to have you with us as well.
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  Speaker 2: It's decent to have you too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, still lock yourself in because by the end
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  Speaker 1: of the show today at ten o'clock, I have a
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  Speaker 1: feeling we will have won you over both your mind
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  Speaker 1: and your heart.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, are you gonna love sports by ten?
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  Speaker 3: Yep? Yep?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe you hated it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe sports ran away with your mother when you were
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  Speaker 1: an impressionable teenager.
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  Speaker 2: Too many times, and yet you.
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  Speaker 1: Never really got the time to get to know sports,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe at the end of today's show you'll be like,
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  Speaker 1: I get it, Mom, I miss you and I love you.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and I forgive sports.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan is here. My name is Chuck Powell. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: into our radio show. Great weekend again. Man, are we
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  Speaker 1: on a nice little run with this weather?
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  Speaker 5: Oh? Boy?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty pretty nice.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't have a softball tournament to go to. Did
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  Speaker 1: you take advantage of it?
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  Speaker 6: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: You roll around in the grass? Did you do grass angels?
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  Speaker 2: I did not do grass angels, but I did sit
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  Speaker 2: in the grass, fake grass.
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  Speaker 4: You didn't get sugars?
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  Speaker 1: Did you know what's that? That's a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a bug that we have in the Midwest. It'll get
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  Speaker 1: up in you. Okay, it'll get under your skin.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, uh huh, No, didn't get it. Didn't get
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  Speaker 2: that because I was again, I was in my fake
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  Speaker 2: grass in my backyard. So that's uh only fake bugs
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  Speaker 2: fake Well, there are I guess some some real bugs
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  Speaker 2: that sit there. But yeah, got to sit outside a
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  Speaker 2: bit yesterday and enjoy it, and then we had a
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  Speaker 2: we did have an end of your softball little shindig
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  Speaker 2: get together outside of the park wait.
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  Speaker 4: Man, how did the party goo? You had a two parties?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I had bunko.
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  Speaker 4: How did the bunco thing go?
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  Speaker 2: It was wild? Yeah, that was wild.
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  Speaker 4: Did you post any pictures on social media?
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  Speaker 2: Diamonds posted one photo of the group of us in
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  Speaker 2: our denim and diamonds. I was in the back. Oh
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  Speaker 2: you can't really see mine, but the denim and the
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  Speaker 2: diamonds were a hit. I had one friend that came
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of tassels, like diamond y tassels. Oh wow,
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  Speaker 2: they were awesome dressed on her jacket and her shorts.
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  Speaker 2: I should have clarified they were not tassels like some
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  Speaker 2: people might. She was not a showgirl.
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  Speaker 4: Went there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no, none of those kinds of tassels
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  Speaker 2: showed up.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking of just your full scale Canadian tuxedo,
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  Speaker 1: and I was thinking of diamond d tassels.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, just hanging from the pockets.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what she had. Yeah, and it was Canadian tuxedo,
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  Speaker 2: but short style. She she robbed it and yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: that was fun. We I got the most bunkos, So
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  Speaker 2: that was fun. I want some money, okay, And and.
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  Speaker 4: You enjoy playing this?
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  Speaker 2: I love this game. Okay, but we got started a
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  Speaker 2: little late, so we didn't finish the whole thing. We
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  Speaker 2: needed three rounds.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that four?
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  Speaker 2: And uh everybody stayed till about one am. Oh wow, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: somehow five Iron was sleeping while people were rocking out.
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  Speaker 2: It was a dance party.
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  Speaker 4: Oow. Yeah, there's a lot going.
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  Speaker 2: And all real wild, got real wild.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know what to make of all of that.
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  Speaker 2: I know, And then I cleaned my kitchen till two am,
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  Speaker 2: and then I went to bed, and then I slept
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  Speaker 2: till of it.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what stood out the most is that you said,
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  Speaker 1: on one hand, we got started late, so we didn't
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  Speaker 1: get to finish, and yet we still stayed up till
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  Speaker 1: one o'clock. I mean, what did you start like eleven?
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  Speaker 2: We started at about eight, and then everyone was just
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  Speaker 2: over it. They were like, okay, this is going on
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  Speaker 2: too late. We're usually done by now, start earlier. And
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  Speaker 2: then they were like, now we don't want to keep playing.
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  Speaker 4: So you just ditched the game and just.
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  Speaker 2: And just had a party.
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  Speaker 4: Wait in Yeah yeah, leaned into the alcohol.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay, there's a lot of wine consumed on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday night.
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  Speaker 1: Was there a mustache drawn? On five Iron while he
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  Speaker 1: was sleeping, because I've seen people do this before.
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  Speaker 2: No, had he been a part of the party and
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  Speaker 2: then fallen asleep on the couch, definitely would have deserved one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh he just wanted to go to bed. Oh guy,
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  Speaker 1: so he just went to real bed. He didn't like
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  Speaker 1: pass out on the couch.
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  Speaker 2: No, didn't even have a sip of alcohol. Just wanted
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  Speaker 2: to go to sleep.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, all right, I get it.
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  Speaker 3: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, y'all are crazy, I'm going to bed.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, great morning to you all. We're getting started here
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  Speaker 1: on this Monday. We got a lot to discuss today.
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  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, this is a really big
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  Speaker 1: day in my calendar year sports talk radio wise, because
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  Speaker 1: two different things start on June first here on this
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  Speaker 1: radio program.
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  Speaker 4: This is how it's been.
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  Speaker 1: Built over the years, and so we will tell you
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  Speaker 1: with what's on tap here in a little bit what
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  Speaker 1: those two things, because I'm guessing you didn't put it
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  Speaker 1: in your calendar you listening at home, especially the non
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  Speaker 1: sports fans out there who we're working on today. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: this is the start of two different kind of big
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  Speaker 1: events here on Chuck and Buck in the morning, and
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  Speaker 1: so we'll map that out for you here in a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. But certainly our show starts with the local
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  Speaker 1: baseball team, which seems to be on its most significant
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  Speaker 1: role of good fortune that we've seen so far this
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  Speaker 1: two month long baseball season. A six game winning streak,
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  Speaker 1: back to back sweeps and this weekends cost the Arizona
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  Speaker 1: Diamondbacks all of their hotness. We took care of that
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  Speaker 1: over the weekend, I mean, a couple of really tight games,
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  Speaker 1: certainly in the batch, and yet the Mariners do find
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  Speaker 1: a way to win each of them, taking Sunday's contest
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  Speaker 1: and ten innings by a final score of three to two.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into the details of that game with Mariners
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  Speaker 1: morning after here at six thirty. Today also baseball brunch
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  Speaker 1: at eight thirty. But obviously Ashley finally some good vibes.
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  Speaker 1: There's no doubt that you know, there are stretches in
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  Speaker 1: a baseball season where you can't seem to catch a break.
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  Speaker 1: Then there are stretches of a baseball season where you
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  Speaker 1: do catch breaks, And then there are stretches where you're
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  Speaker 1: catching a couple of breaks, but you're also playing good enough,
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  Speaker 1: you're getting great pitching that you can take advantage and
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  Speaker 1: put together a little bit of run, and that's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what they're doing. He went into this past weekend under
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  Speaker 1: five hundred, but in first place. Now we sit here
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  Speaker 1: on Monday, things can happen quickly. Two and a half games,
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  Speaker 1: a whole fat, two and a half games up in
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  Speaker 1: the American League West, and a whole massive, giant two
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  Speaker 1: games over five hundred. It feels like we're stealing money
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  Speaker 1: at this point just to be over five hundred at
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  Speaker 1: this point, but two full games? Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: I know?
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  Speaker 2: And I started to get a little greedy because, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, we're we're getting first year, which
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  Speaker 2: was my whole goal going into the weekend. And on
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  Speaker 2: Sunday before the game, I was like, well we better sweep.
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  Speaker 2: Like there, I was not going to accept a loss.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, look at me all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: getting a little cocky.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Well, you always take two out of three, but hey,
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  Speaker 1: no reason. Once you've won the first two, you just
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  Speaker 1: approach it the same way and game number three. Just
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  Speaker 1: win today's game and they'll call it a sweep, I
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  Speaker 1: suppose at the end of the day. But we're just
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  Speaker 1: about win in one game at a time. So they
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  Speaker 1: got the job done three to two yesterday, and the
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  Speaker 1: piggyback was again used for a third time, and successfully
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  Speaker 1: once again. And I just I'm not really sure what
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  Speaker 1: to do with all of you that just decided that
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  Speaker 1: the world was ending and the Mariners were slapping you
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  Speaker 1: in the face with the piggyback situation. But I hate
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  Speaker 1: to break it to you, I really do. It's worked.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that Castillo was able to pitch
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  Speaker 2: into the tenth went into extra innings, and you used
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  Speaker 2: two pitchers yesterday. Yes, that's it, and you won.
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  Speaker 1: And you won. So you won two out of the
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  Speaker 1: three games. The one that you lost. It wasn't because
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  Speaker 1: of pitching, right, And the two individuals involved, even though
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  Speaker 1: have been notably dissatisfied with how they're being used during
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  Speaker 1: this stretch, but they are also two of the best
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  Speaker 1: teammates in that locker room, and so it wasn't affecting
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  Speaker 1: clearly from a negative standpoint, their performances. As a matter
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  Speaker 1: of fact, I think in a strange way, it affected
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  Speaker 1: their performances rather positively, particularly Luis Castillo, who have seen
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  Speaker 1: do nothing but struggle until the Piggyback, and I think
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  Speaker 1: maybe there is something Ashley too. Luis Castillo, Bucky and
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  Speaker 1: I have talked about this for years. I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: can look as good as any pitcher in the game
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  Speaker 1: since putting on a Mariner uniform, maybe less so now
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  Speaker 1: than when he first put on a Mariner uniform. But
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  Speaker 1: there are games where he doesn't look entirely locked in,
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  Speaker 1: and those are the games that I feel. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: take for example, the cold weather games. He just never
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  Speaker 1: looks locked in when it's cold and you know, rainy
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  Speaker 1: potentially We've seen a couple of those so far this
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  Speaker 1: year and he hasn't fared well. But when he gets
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  Speaker 1: locked in, you know, Luis Castile can still be nasty,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what we've seen since he became a Piggyback partner.
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  Speaker 1: And I think there's an element of I'm not just
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  Speaker 1: here for the team, but I'm also obviously having to
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  Speaker 1: pitch for my starting job in the rotation. And there's
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  Speaker 1: also an element of I can't let down Bryce. I
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  Speaker 1: can't let Bryce do his job out there and then
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  Speaker 1: I just fall apart. So I think we've seen laser
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  Speaker 1: focus from him in these three appearances. Won a start
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  Speaker 1: and then two times in relief, something that he's never
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  Speaker 1: done during the regular season in his entire major league career,
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  Speaker 1: and he's just been terrific. And combined, the two of
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  Speaker 1: them have a one point six seven ERA in three starts,
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  Speaker 1: and two of those starts they were the only or
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  Speaker 1: two of those piggyback games, they were the only two
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  Speaker 1: guys that pitched, which, of course is one of the
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  Speaker 1: other things you're trying to accomplish with this. Is there
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  Speaker 1: a chance that if we throw two goods starters, who
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  Speaker 1: would be start in the starting rotation for any other
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  Speaker 1: team in the sport? If we pitched two starters in
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  Speaker 1: a game they both went, you know, come buy nine
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  Speaker 1: innings and yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: It was ten.
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  Speaker 1: Can we give our bullpen an entire day off every
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  Speaker 1: time through the rotation? Well damn if they haven't done
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  Speaker 1: it two times through the rotation in a row.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it is incredible. I mean, yesterday, I
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  Speaker 2: think they did have a bit of a better plan,
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  Speaker 2: or at least the communication had to have been better,
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  Speaker 2: because even on the broadcast, you knew going into the
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  Speaker 2: game the goal for each guy was about seventy five pitches.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they'd said, and both of them pitched seventy
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  Speaker 2: one pitches. Yeah, I don't think Bryce seemed irritated when
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  Speaker 2: he went out. This time you got to rock a
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  Speaker 2: flex from from Castillo. I mean, I think I think
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  Speaker 2: this time was better on all accounts.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know why. I mean, there are things
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  Speaker 1: to criticize about this, no question, and certainly we have
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  Speaker 1: on the show. There have been things to create size
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  Speaker 1: about this process and trying it for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: I think we should have expected a couple of mistakes
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  Speaker 1: would be made along the way. Now, I counted not
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  Speaker 1: using munos in the ninth as a mistake the first
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  Speaker 1: time they tried it, that one run game should be
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  Speaker 1: treated differently. Well, it was a one run game yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and Munos never even got up Nope, in the bullpen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was Castillo sent out there to get
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  Speaker 1: the job done. The other thing was that, from a
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  Speaker 1: critical standpoint, obviously they didn't do a good job of
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  Speaker 1: communicating all of this, and I don't know where the
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  Speaker 1: conversation broke down in the chain of command.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it.
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  Speaker 1: All lies on Jerry, or if Jerry trusted Justin to
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  Speaker 1: do it, or if justin trusted Dan to do it,
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  Speaker 1: or if Dan trusted Pete to do it, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what happened. I want to blame all four of them, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because somebody should have made sure it got communicated.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to give them credit for the interesting idea,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's been a runaway success at this
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  Speaker 1: point despite all the criticism that continue to hate it.
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  Speaker 1: It is unreal, but it's it's been a success. So
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  Speaker 1: I give them credit. But I also blame them for
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they had the best game plan back
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  Speaker 1: in game number one. I think it was just so
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  Speaker 1: foreign for Dan. He didn't know exactly how to execute it. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And then obviously, if you're going to do something weird
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  Speaker 1: to a couple of established veterans, something different in their lives,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to explain it to them. It shouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: taken two starts and two you know, two angry Bryce
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  Speaker 1: Miller press conferences and one fit thrown on a dugout
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  Speaker 1: for these two great teammates to understand exactly what you're doing,
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  Speaker 1: how you're going to do it, and what it means
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  Speaker 1: for them short term and long term. That should have
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  Speaker 1: been explained. So those are a couple of things that
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  Speaker 1: I think that they deserved heat four they deserved criticism for.
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  Speaker 1: But I think mostly, you know, I'm leaning toward applause.
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  Speaker 1: I'm leaning toward flattery. I'm leaning toward commending them for
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  Speaker 1: trying something interesting and different. And you may have saved
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  Speaker 1: Luis Castillo's season for goodness sake, because he looks like
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  Speaker 1: a different pitcher right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he really does. And I know that yesterday obviously
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  Speaker 2: he had a wild pitch that scored one run, and
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  Speaker 2: I think that's when a lot of people were instantly like,
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  Speaker 2: what are that. I know we got one angry text
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  Speaker 2: about why it wasn't working, but that could have been anybody,
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  Speaker 2: honestly that did it and it wasn't. Well, yeah, let's.
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  Speaker 4: Let's correct that.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know what it ended up. It ended
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  Speaker 1: up staying as a while.
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  Speaker 2: I think they called it pitch, yeah, but that.
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  Speaker 1: Was not a wild Yeah, they called it a wild pitch,
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  Speaker 1: but man, the catcher, when a catcher doesn't even move
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  Speaker 1: and it still hits his glove, that's a pass ball
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  Speaker 1: that was on parade. And now he might have gotten
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  Speaker 1: crossed up, and that might have been a really difficult
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  Speaker 1: play for him to make. But any catcher will tell you,
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  Speaker 1: if I can put a glove on on it, I've
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  Speaker 1: got to stop it, right And so to me, that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't even a wild pitch. Not to mention the trouble
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  Speaker 1: that he got in, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Because of the Mariners defense, Castillo.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't get any help on the field last night yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, for Cole Young and JP Crawford to both
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  Speaker 1: let that little squibber get through the infield because they
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  Speaker 1: both assumed the other one was gonna take it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's set up the whole inning. That's
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  Speaker 1: what put runners at second third to begin with. So
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  Speaker 1: here's Castillo who walks a guy gets one of the
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  Speaker 1: best players in baseball to hit a dribbler up the middle,
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  Speaker 1: and suddenly he said second and third, and then his
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  Speaker 1: catcher can't stop. A catcher's got to stop that pitch
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  Speaker 1: with a runner at third, the tying run at third base,
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  Speaker 1: or was that the first run?
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  Speaker 2: That was the first run for yes, that was the
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  Speaker 2: first run. That was when we were up one nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Josh Naylor getting greedy and trying to
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  Speaker 1: make the spectacular play. I mean, the Diamondbacks are giving
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  Speaker 1: you an out. They're just handing you an out out,
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  Speaker 1: you know, bunding a runner to second base. And Naylor
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  Speaker 1: gets fancy, and look, he's got some We all love him,
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  Speaker 1: but he's got some issues. He makes some really odd
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  Speaker 1: decisions sometimes trying to do the spectacular rather than just
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  Speaker 1: making the smart baseball play, and he throws the ball
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  Speaker 1: away and that set up the run, the second run
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  Speaker 1: in the game. So Castill was not getting any help yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't look at my defense played terribly and
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  Speaker 1: allowed the Diamondbacks to score two runs. To reflect negatively
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  Speaker 1: on the piggyback decision that was made by the organization
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  Speaker 1: in terms of how they were going to use their
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  Speaker 1: pitching staff yesterday, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Would agree completely, and that was my whole point. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was so funny to see all these people that
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: get fired up about it. First off for one run, right,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: it was the with the wild pitch, yeah or pass ball.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Was that frustrating, absolutely, because it was mistakes that we
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: didn't want to see, especially not in the game that
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: was being pitched so well. So you don't want to
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: see your defense messing up and allowing for runs that
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: really shouldn't have gone on the board in the first place.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: So that was the only part that was frustrating, and
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: that had nothing to do with the piggyback. That just
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: had to do with the Mariors getting a little sloppy
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: defensively after Castillo came in.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Or very sloppy defensively.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Castillo looks like a different pitcher. Yeah,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: And I do believe that he can't excel in a
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: relief role, and I do believe that's where he should
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: eventually end.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Up in all of this.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: But whatever this did to him to reignite his competitive
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: fire and reignite his focus, I mean that might end
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: up being the biggest windfall out of this entire process.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Forget the two wins, just to get Luis Castillo back
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: to looking like Luis Castillo as he has in his
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: last three outings. And if he kind of likes it,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: then who knows what kind of role he could have
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: long term. Now, I do want to correct one other
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: thing from it going forward, and I should point out
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: going forward, they're going back to a six man rotation.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: The road trip.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I'm really not sure why they're going back to a
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: six man rotation because they do have an off day.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they weren't didn't have an off day
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: this week, then I could see why they go back
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: to a six man rotation. But to have this success,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to see them actually getting better and stronger with each
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: time they try it, I'm a little I'm a little surprised.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: We're going back to the six man rotation. You have
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Thursday off this week, and so they're gonna do that
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: looks like through the next two turns through the rotation.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: But even if they weren't doing that, even if they
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: weren't changing anything else, I do think there's one other
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: thing that they should acknowledge and also implement. Okay, Bryce
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Miller's one of our three best pitchers. He might be
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: our best. And that seems like a bold, hot take
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: on a Monday morning, but I've kind of been feeling
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: this way for a little while now. He looks dominant,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and so I'm not sure.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, we could open it up to.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Conversation about who then if we if they do the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: piggyback again, and they might not, it might be over with.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: That might be it. I mean, you never know if
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: an injury is going to occur, or you never know
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: if you go two turns through the starting rotation. You know,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: maybe one pitcher gets lit up and it makes it
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: easier to make that decision going forward. You never know, right,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: this could have been the last time we ever try it.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: But if they do it again, I don't think it
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: should involve Bryce Miller. I think he's too good and
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I could put together a list. I don't really want
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: to name names right now, but let's just put it
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: this way. I'm not sure there's a better picture in
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: our organization right now than Bryce Miller.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're capping him at seventy five pitches, right, yeah, right.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, the whole idea about not going to a
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: six man rotation is because you want, you know, your
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: best guys to be able to pitch every fifth game.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: That's the idea behind it.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: If you go to a six man rotation, now your
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: best guys are being used one sixth of the time
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: as opposed to one fifth of the time, and that
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: difference adds up over the course of the season. Well,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: right now we're using Bryce Miller one fifth of the time,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: and then within that we're only using them for seventy
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: to seventy five pitches. That might be a waste of
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: what might be our best pitcher right now. So that
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: is one thing that I would adjust. And so if
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: they do it again, if we emerge on the other
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: side of two turns through a six man rotation and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: they want to go back to it, my hunch is
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: they don't go back to using Miller. It would be
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Castillo and someone else. That's my hunch.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I could see that happening. I wonder if they feel
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: like they disrupt more by switching who it is, but
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I could definitely see them try ain't it out with another,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: with another pitcher and seeing what happens with Miller going
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: to you know, seven innings.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're underway here on this Monday. Let's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: find out what's on tap?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: What's on tap? What's on tap?
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Mariner's three diamondbacks and ten innings. Menday Mariners Morning After
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: comes your way at six thirty tonight. It's the Mets
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: coming in town. So first pitch six forty and it's
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: going to be Emerson Hancock versus an opener for the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: New York Mets, which we will discuss here in a
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: little bit. Bad day for UCLA Sports, and that really
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: breaks up Ashley Ryan. It really does bother. It really
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: hurts her soul.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I felt so bad for them.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: In one day, they lost their number one rank baseball
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: team YEP, and also lost what many believed was the
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: favorite to win the softball title as well, and one
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: day lost them both.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: The Women's College World Series has reached its five four stage.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: So right now you've got Tennessee and Alabama in the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: drivers seats. So that means Texas and Texas Tech would
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: have to win back to back games today in order
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: to advance on to the finals. But they will play
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: potentially four softball games today in the Women's College World Series.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: And it is a great product. I've really been watching
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of it. It is really enjoyable. Ye Storm
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: taking on the Dallas Wings tonight at five o'clock. That'll
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: be in Dallas against Page Beckers. NBA Finals is set.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: We certainly will talk about this quite a bit today.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Spencer Hawes will join us at nine o'clock to preview
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Spurs Nicks. They will debut on Wednesday. Stanley Cup finals
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: will start tomorrow. Carolina versus Vegas is the matchup. It
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: is aj Brown Day kind of the Philadelphia Eagles wide
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: receiver is expected to end up with the New England Patriots,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and maybe as early as today June first, a date
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: that has been circled in the NFL calendar because of
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: contractual things that change with aj Brown, it makes them
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: easier to trade starting today.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: The Hawks lost their.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Assistant general manager over the weekend to the Minnesota Vikings,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: but are going to get some draft pick compensation for that.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later on in the show. And
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: our one series begins today. Corbyn Smith will lead us
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: off in twenty twenty six. That is one insider breaking
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: down one key Seahawk player for one entire interview. We've
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: been doing this every year now for years, and so
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Corbyn Smith leads us off today at eight o'clock. We
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: look forward to chatting with him. Also, trade season begins
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: today in Major League Baseball, so we will dust that
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: topic off today as well. Two of my favorite days
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: on the entire sports calendar, so we'll get that started.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And the World Cups in two weeks, all right, Coming
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: up next though, Mariners Morning After WORTS Radio ninety three
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: point three kJ R F m.
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: Oh so excited right now. You know everything that we
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: do for win again is a special and I feel
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: special right now.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's really special to sweep a team. You guys
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: do that against the Athletics and then you do it again,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: much more difficult, back to back sweep. You know what's
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: happening right now with this team.
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: And I mean if you're special, Like I said, we compete,
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: even like we missed the two of the best katers
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: on the line up, we still compete every day and
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: yours we try to do one hundred percent of their field.
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: I mean the buye like the fans bringing every day.
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: That's what we play for and we try to do
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: the best. So thank you guys for bring.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: The money, the energy.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: The energy every day. So keep it bringing and we're
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: gonna keep going.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Almost said momentum.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I think so, I was like, I gotta have that
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: part the vibes in the mos that way.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Nation actually doesn't want me to say that word.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: We're going to ignore that word.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, seven o'clock hour, Good Monday morning to you. As
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, check that great Monday morning to you.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Chuck Powell, Ashley Ryan with you as we roll into
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: our second hour here today. Spencer Hawes joining us later
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: at nine o'clock. We've got Corbin Smith starting our one
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: series today, our Seahawks one series at eight o'clock. Also
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: ABC's of the M's Gone Fishing, and so many other
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: things to tackle on today's radio show. But we first
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: get to your headlines to start the hour, and they
• 25:35
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• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Victor Roblaze with a game winning RBI infield single Heraldo
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Peroma Perdomo. Excuse me, he tried to smother a ground
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: ball up the middle, but even if he would have
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: called it cleanly, him leaving his feet probably wasn't going
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: to have time to get up and throw out a
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: speedy Randy a Rose Arena scoring from third base. The
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Mariners win in ten innings over the Arizona Diamondbacks Sunday
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: to complete a sweep. Three to two was the final score.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Roblays with the game winning hit the piggyback. Well, I'm
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: really hate to break it to all of you that
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: hate it so much, but it worked really well again
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: for a second game in a row.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Literally almost better than the last time.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. One point six to seven ERA between Bryce Miller
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: and Luis Castillo over the course of the three piggyback outings,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and you didn't have to use your bullpen in either
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: of the last two outings that produced victories. And so
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: they're not going to do it again for a while.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: It sounds like they're going to adjust to a six
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: man rotation at least for a couple more turns through
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the rotation. So you're not gonna have to live with
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: a piggyback for a while if in fact you are
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: just so against it just.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Because we don't know why.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Again, not a permanent solution, yeah, but it certainly did
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: get used effectively yesterday and the Mariners win at three
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: to two and ten innings, so they are two games
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: over five hundred. They are two and a half games
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: up in the American League West. They won six straight
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: games and they put that streak on the line tonight
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: at home against the New York Mets, who are also
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: playing their best baseball of the season. Right now.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Something's got to din It's.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Gonna be the Mets give all the runs to us.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Austin Warren will be an opener starter for the New
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: York Mets, and then Emerson Hancock will pitch for Seattle.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: First pitch is at six forty.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about all of that stuff a little later
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: on in the show. It was a bad day for
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: UCLA Spring sports yesterday, my goodness. Both there highly ranked
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: softball team and baseball teams were eliminated from NCAA tournament play.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: The softball team ousted before the final four could be
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: played today it will feature Texas Tennessee, Alabama and Texas Tech. Meanwhile,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the baseball team doesn't even make it out of the regionals,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: even though they were ranked number one in America, So
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: we won't get to see Rock Chelaski play anymore baseball
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: at the college level. Next stop for him is the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: number one overall pick in the MLB draft.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: But Bruins had a rough day yesterday.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: No, and you hate to see it.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Your heart break it I can see in your face.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was real sad for him, especially for the
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: men to lose to Saint Mary's.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Saint Mary's.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for them to have had I think they had
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: eight losses all season long and Saint Mary's had twenty
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: six losses all season long. Yeah, and then that one
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: important win right there.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Saint Mary's considered like a big program, like like UCLA caliber.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I would have to say, no, Chuck, Oh, it's not.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: So that probably stings.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: It probably hurts extra, which is a real bummer for
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: them and the softball uniforms. I just have to say,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I'm glad I don't have to look at him anymore.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: There were a lot happening there.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Lot going on. Yeah, a couple of great power hitters,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: though they do. I did enjoy watching me both some
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: baseball and some softball over the week, and maybe more
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: so than ever.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Well, and the softball even had a little controversy with
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the Tennessee and the Texas Tech and the handshake and all.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're just like, hey, we're going to take
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: the spotlight for a while.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Let's bring it on storm and action tonight at five
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: o'clock against Page Beckers and the Dallas the Wings. They'll
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: play that game in Texas. Speaking of Texas, the San
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs knocked off the Oklahoma City Thunder and so
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the Thunder will not repeat as champions of the NBA.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: It will be.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Either San Antonio or New York and they will tip
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday, game one of the NBA Finals. Spencer Hawseill
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: joined us today at nine o'clock. We'll also talk about
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the matchup a little bit later on in this hour.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup finals are also set. They'll begin tomorrow Carolina
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Hurricanes versus the Las Vegas Golden Knights. So that gets
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: underway to tomorrow. Congratulations to you, dub rowing you doub
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: rowing one another national title over the weekend. World Cup
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: is in two weeks, as it turns out, whole two.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Weeks actually, Chuck, I have to tell you, yeah, it's
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: a little less than two weeks.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Is it two less than two weeks?
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: A little less than two weeks. We're at ten days,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I believe.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Is it ten days?
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I believe?
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: So yeah, good solid two weeks sounds like right.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: A j Brown day today. He will probably be traded
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: this week from the Philadelphia Eagles, now that we've reached
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the June first threshold where it will be easier financially
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: for the Philadelphia Eagles to move him, and all signs
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: indicate he's heading to New England. Tory unite with Mike Vrabel,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Diana Russini and the Patriots. Hawks have lost their assistant
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: general manager, Nolan Teasley. Looks like we're gonna get some
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: draft compensation though. For that and some pretty good draft
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: compensation if what I'm reading is correctly.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take that.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Please, Nolan gets a good opportunity to be GM of
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, and you didn't take either of our geniuses.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: We can live with that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: And the one series and will continue or begin today
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six. Corbyn Smith joins us at eight
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: o'clock one analyst breaking down one key Seahawk player for
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: one entire interview. The one series again back here on
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck starts today at eight o'clock. But another
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: thing starts today. By gum, what's that trade season? I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: grew up in a community where a lot of people
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: were hunters, so southwestern Illinois, you know, And so man
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: did they froth at the mouth for the start of
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: hunting season. I never got it, never wanted to do it,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: never tried to do it. Yeah, never went. Never once
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: did I go and participate in the star of hunting season.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: But man, these men, both young and old, they would
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: just their eyes would get glassy like several days before
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: and maybe countdown the days to go stand in a
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: deer stand and be really quiet and wait to murder deer.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: What a thrill?
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I'm pretty sure had everything to do with
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: them wanting to get away from their wives. That makes
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: more sense, and I think that's what it had to
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: do with. But nonetheless, they loved themselves some hunting season.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: But I was never that kind of kid, certainly not
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: that kind of an adult. Don't like to hunt, don't
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: want to hunt. But I did always look forward to
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the start of trade season in Major League Baseball. That
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: has been something I've always been interested in as a kid,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: how the puzzle pieces come together, building rosters, what it takes.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: So it's a lifelong of studying this stuff and I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: think I got a pretty good grasp on it, and
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I want to go over some things today on day
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: one of trade season, because trade deadline is not until
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the end of July. It's two full months of this.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've been very patient. I'm not really
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: talking about it all that much.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Did notice your eyes get a little glassy last week?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: You're getting excited.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: But there are a lot of people who don't love
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: this stuff nearly as much as I do. On our
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: radio station that have already started, they are well down
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the track on this, and so we actually have a
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: little bit of catching up to do and sorry to
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: tell my colleagues so I love so much, We've got
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of corrections to make because you're not really
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: presenting it the right way. Okay, okay, so welcome to
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: day number one of the MLB trade season. Look, Memorial
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Day weekend is usually that weekend where unofficially you're supposed
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: to either be a contender or you're not. That's where
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: that's the first day. It's like the quarter pole of
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the season, the unofficial quarter pole. And even though the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Mariners had a sub five hundred record a week ago,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: they're way over it now hold two games over. But
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a week ago they had a sub five hundred record
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: on the season, and yet they were still right there.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: So they were a contender even a week ago, even
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: with a very disappointing sub five hundred record to start
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: this season. Now that they're a whole two and a
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: half games up in the American League West, there's no
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: doubt that we can and I don't think we had
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: to ever stop setting our sights on how this team
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: might improve before July thirty first. And let's give them credit.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: They have done that consistently over the last few years.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: They've been one of the more aggressive teams each of
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the last two years at the trading deadline. Hell, we
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: ended up with Naylor and Gino. Swarez was on a
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: fifty homer pace in Arizona before coming over to Seattle,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: and it ended up being just a few outshy of
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the World Series for goodness sake. So I expect them
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: to be active again, But I also don't see a
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: team with nearly as many holes as what we had
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: a year ago. We needed a couple of middle of
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: the order bats a year ago, certainly one a year ago,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: and they went out and got two. And so what
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: will they do at this year's trading deadline. Well, I
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: think the needs are number one, a basher of left
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: handed pitchers. And I'm not talking about a Ref Snyder
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: or an Aj Pollock or somebody like that. I'm talking
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: about somebody that plays every day, and that's somebody hits righties,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: but he's sure as hell hits lefties. Because teams are
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: continuing to try to throw left handed pitchers at us
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: whenever they have the opportunity.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: And yes, there's been a.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Little improvement in that area from Seattle, but nonetheless it's
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: still remains in my opinion, the biggest concern on this team,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: followed closely by defense, and so that's one area that
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I think is going to have to be addressed. I
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: think you do need a basher of the baseball and
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: somebody that's a bit of a no brainer that can
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: hit left handers and that doesn't necessarily have to come
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: at one specific position. That could be a third baseman,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: because right now we seem to be in flux. Who's
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: going to even play third base for this team. That
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: could be a right fielder if we stop the platoon
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: situation in right field and just decided we're going to
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: go with this dude and he's going to play right
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: field for us and play every day and hit in
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the middle of the order. And it could be the
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: designated hitter as well. So that's the benefit of having
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: like a Brendan Donovan type that you don't really have
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: to go after a position. You just can go after
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the hitter. Get the hitter that you like, and then
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: we'll figure out the defense. It's not like we're breaking
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: something perfect if we mess up our defensive structure at
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: this point. So find the hitter that you like, find
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the trade that you like, for that hitter that you like,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and then we'll figure out the defense around him. And
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: fortunately because of guys like Brendan a guy like Brendan
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Donovan and also cold Emerson, it does give you that
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: flexibility defensively that you can you can accommodate just about
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: any even like a Byron Buxton, who I've thrown out
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: before from the Minnesota Twins, who I is number one
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: on my list right now. He's a center fielder. We
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: know Julio's a center fielder. If you got him figure
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: out the defense afterwards, you know, maybe that's a conversation
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: to move Julio to rightfield, because that's where he's eventually
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: gonna have to go anyway, and he's not having a
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: great year defensively in center field. He's not as good
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: as Buxton as a defensive center fielder. Or Buxton comes
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: over to his new team, just like Alex Rodriguez moved
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: to third when he joined Derek Cheeter, Alex rodrigu was
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: still a very good defensive short stop.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: But we already have a very good defensive short stuff.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: So you're the one that's going to have to adjust
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: as opposed to the guy that has locked down the position,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: So maybe it's Buxton that would move to right field.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: But the point is, get a hitter, you know, you
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: need a hitter, and get one that is just proven,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: not somebody that specifically has a niche for hitting lefties.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: We've tried that, it doesn't work. No, If you go
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: out and you get a proven star and we don't
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: have to worry about subbing out for him in the
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: middle of the game any longer, I think that's the
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: number one priority.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that is one of the biggest frustrations too,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: is watching somebody like Luke Rayley get pulled from the
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: game because of one relief pitcher and then you don't
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: have him later in the game and you need him.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: So if you could get somebody that can hit lefties
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: and rightis and it's not a concern of ooh, that
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: matchup's not gonna work'd be great. That would be great.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And if that happens, then obviously some people become
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit vulnerable because you now don't need all
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: of that platoon stuff that you have. If you have
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: one solid right fielder or one solid DH or even
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: one solid third baseman, then all of a sudden, a
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: canzone or Rayley becomes expendable. I think Canzone being younger
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: probably gives you more trade value. He probably becomes somebody
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: that is used in a trade to get that type
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: of a player. Victor Roblaze and Res Snider. Now we
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: don't need two right handed outfielders that platoon any longer,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: so you keep one of them because there probably would
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: be a Donovan platoon at some point. He's not really
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: hit left handers all that consistently in his career and
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: looks like he's gonna need some days off, So you
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: keep one of ref Schneider and Roeblaze, but probably no
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: need to keep both ref Snider and Roblaze if you
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: made that kind of decision, And so's that's.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: Those are some guys.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: That suddenly become trade candidates for this team between now
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: and July thirty. First other need before I get into
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: some other possible trade candidates is bullpen. I think Jerry
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and Justin are always looking to make the bullpen deeper,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: because we've already seen you can have a deep bullpen
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, oh we've lost spire
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: and Brash, and then all of a sudden you've gone.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: From a deep bullpen to a thin one overnight.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: And so I think they'll always add a relief pitcher
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: every single trade deadline.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's always fun to see which who they
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: add and what they can actually do, because it does
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: seem like they have an eye, a real eye for
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: all that pictures for believers.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and maybe it's Louis Castile. Maybe Luis
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Castillo becomes the reliever that deepens the pen. We shall
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: see the piggy pen, Yeah, we shall see. But this
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: is the other thing that I want to discuss today,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of people are kind of
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: throwing out there that you you know, there's no room
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: for six pitchers, so you trade one of them. Luis
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: castill is an not all that tradeable. He's making twenty
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: three twenty four million dollars a year through next season.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: So I'm not saying you couldn't trade Luis Castillo, but
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: if you traded Luis Castillo, you'd probably have to take
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: a contract back in return. Now, we are looking for
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: an offensive player, so maybe there is something that can
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: work out, But it doesn't really sound like the type
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: of move that Mariners are gonna make mid season to
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: take back a contract player just to get rid of
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Luis Castile. It just doesn't sound like something that they
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: would do. So he's not the most easily traded guy.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: JP Crawford's the exact same way. By the way, a
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: lot of people just trade him. There's no value for
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: JP crew.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: You have to have somebody who wants them.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: He has. He makes twelve million dollars and he can't
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: play shortstop right now, and so there's no value for him.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: The reason why he's valuable to this team is because
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: the players love him, that he has some LEADLeadership qualities.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: It's the reason why the Mariners are keeping him in
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: the starting lineup to begin with. And he's starting to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: hit a little bit better here. He had a good
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: weekend this past weekend. But there's not really any trade
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: value for JP Crawford. So JP is gonna probably stay
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: on our roster. I'm fine with that. But I don't
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: think he's going to be our shortstop, and I don't
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: think he's going to be our third baseman, and I
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: don't think he's going to be our DH because of
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: what we covered earlier. I think that he'll just be
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: a roster player for this team and perhaps could be
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: something of a utility sort if he can prove he
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: can play third base and if he can get his
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: arm healthy enough to play shortstop. Still, but JP Crawford
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think has any trade value. So no, you're
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: not going to trade JP Crawford and get anything for him,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: because whoever takes him on, they don't inherit the best
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: thing about him, and that is his leadership, because you
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: don't just become a leader overnight with a brand new team.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Then you go to the other starting pitchers. You know, Okay,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: well what about Bryce Miller. He's got to have some
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: trade value. Yes, he has tremendous trade value. And shut
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: your mouth.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't speak, so don't say bad words.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Well, no, there's no way I can't make this clear.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Hell no, are we trading Bryce Miller? Hell no, are
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: we trading Brian Wu. I think there will come a
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: time in which a decision will be made in the organization,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: and he'll probably be made purely on health of keeping
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: one of them, trying to extend one of those two,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and eventually I think one of those two will probably
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: be leaving Seattle because we've got Kate Anderson and Ryan
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Sloan two of the top four pitching prospects in the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: world right now that are on their way to joining
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: the Mariner's rotation. But no, now is not the time
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: to trade Bryce Miller Logan Gilbert. I think Logan Gilbert
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: might very well be traded this offseason. I think that
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: is there is a strong possibility. It sounds like those
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: rumors about him wanting to be closer to Florida and
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: home are true. It sounds like their first little voyage
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: into a contract extension hit rocky ground.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Sounds like they're way apart. And think about it.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, a Logan Gilbert type on the free agent
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: market is probably gonna make thirty thirty five million.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Dollars a year.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of money.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of money. And when the Mariners have
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: the kind of starting pitching depth that they have, and
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: you know they're spending history, I think what they would
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: absolutely do today is if you give us a deal,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: will extend you. But it needs to look a lot
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: more like cal Rawley's deal then it does. You know,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Trek Scooble's deal or Garrett Cole's deal. You know that's
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: that's if you want to play ball with us. On
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: that front. You really want to stay and you want
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: to cut us something, then we'll do that.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: It'll be a little more team friendly.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't sound like that's where they're heading. But
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: you don't trade a pitcher like that in the middle
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: of ye when you're trying to win a World Series,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: and teams don't make a lot of star player for
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: star player trades in the middle of the year, even
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: if they do have even if you do have a
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: strength that matches their weakness and vice versa, you just
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: don't see that much anymore. I'm not saying it couldn't happen,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: it's just nothing that really does happen. I think what
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Logan will be traded for in the offseason is a
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: boatload of prospects. That's what I think, and that's how
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: the Mariners are going to keep this thing churning. Kate
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Anderson replaces him in the starting rotation next year, and
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert has moved for three or four good young
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: pieces that could eventually fill other roles of players who
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: would be leaving the organization. So no, I don't think
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert gets traded this season, but I think there's
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: a good chance he gets traded this offseason. And I
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: also don't think Emerson Hancock is a candidate. I know
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: that his history suggests he's the weakest of the six,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: but this year he's been arguably the strongest of the six,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: and there is something about an organization. He's also under
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: control for a little while longer. There's something about an
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: organization than when they finally start reaping the benefits of
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: something that they invested money and time in and they
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: finally breaks through, they kind of want to take advantage
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: of that. They don't want to just ship him off
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: the moment. He's fine. I mean, we were told in
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: spring training by Pete Woodworth himself on air and off air,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: it's different. The change has happened. He is the real
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: deal right now, and he has shown us nothing but
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: being the real deal. So I don't think he's a
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: candidate to move either. We have some prospects. We have
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of infielders that we can move from our
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: minor leagues, because it looks like Emerson and Young are
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: our middle endfield for the future, and Felman Celestin is
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: hitting so well at the minor league level he might
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: be our future.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Third day.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: They might not move any of them, but that still
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: leaves Michael Arroyo without a position in the future. I
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: think we will make a trade. It won't be involving
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: any of our veterans. It will involve a couple of prospects,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: maybe as many as three or four, to get a
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: significant bat in the lineup. I think that is our
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball trading deadline this year.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Well, and you even mentioned getting prospects for Logan. If
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: you traded him in the off season, then that's exactly
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: what they want. Like you just said, then you turn
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: those prospects around. If they don't come up to the
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: big leagues, you're trading them for something else that you need.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: So that sounds right up about the Mariners Alley, I
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: would think.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you've got some other guys whose contracts
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: are coming up. Randy rose Arena is going to create
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: a whole I don't think they're going to be keeping
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: him in the future, so that I mean there are
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: some other needs that you're going to have that if
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: you get a couple of those prospects that are major
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: league ready, I mean one of them could be playing
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: left field for us next year. Yeah, if you make
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: a Logan Gilbert offseason trade. All right, coming down next
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: on the radio program. I probably as the first of
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: many conversations, we will talk about the NBA Finals being
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: set and how happy you all are about the two teams.
• 48:10
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• 48:14
  Speaker 1: halfway through our Monday show and we are just starting
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: our brand new version of the One Series. That's right,
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• 48:25
  Speaker 1: of June we take time on this show to launch
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  Speaker 1: the One Series. What it is is one Sea Hawk's Insider,
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  Speaker 1: breaking down one key Seahawk player for one entire interview,
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  Speaker 1: and it starts here today and our leadoff hitter this
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: season from Emerald Spectrum. Also, he podcasts with Rob rang
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  Speaker 1: Or at least the last I checked he was podcasting
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  Speaker 1: the one they only Corbyn Smith, how are you, sir?
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  Speaker 5: I'm good. Thanks for having me.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Are you still doing the podcast with Rob? I don't
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: see it on your list of things anymore?
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: Uh No, Locked on Seahawks. Yeah, we're still doing it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Oh there we go.
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  Speaker 1: I see it now, all right, you just abbreviated it
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• 49:19
  Speaker 4: How you been.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: How's your off season going?
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: It's been great. Looking forward to continuing to dive into
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: the OTAs this week though.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they start today here. So are you heading down.
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: The next two though? Next two open ones are going
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: to be on Wednesday.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: Wendy on Thursday. Okay, all right, very good?
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: All right, well we appreciate you joining us. You know
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: how we do this thing. We want to just do
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: one breakdown of one key Seahawk player for one entire interview.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Tell us Corbyn Smith, who you have chosen to break
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: down for us today.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: I've got to go with Byron Murphy. The second we
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: had a big breakout year last year. I think he's
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: got a chance to take another big step forward this season.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Let's start right there with how good he was, because
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: you know, interior defensive linemen don't quite get the accolades
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: of the guys that put up all the sacks and
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: do the dances and everything like that. And so I
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: mean we heard all year along what a great year
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Byron Murphy was having. He got overlooked on a lot
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: of the postseason accolades. And so let's start with in
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: your estimation and Corbyn Smith's estimation, just how good was
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Byron Murphy in twenty twenty five for the Seahawks.
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: He should have been an All Pro. That's how good
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: he was. I mean he And it's crazy because Leonard
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: Williams is the one that ended up getting All Pro
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: votes and made the second to our first team All Pro.
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: But he could have made an argument that Byron Murphy
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: deserved it just as much as he did. Those two
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: were absolute game wreckers and seven and a half sacks,
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: So his pass rushing production took off his rookie season
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: where he only had a handful of quarterback hits a
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: partial sack. He was able to completely transform as a
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: pass rusher breakout season there and number one run defense.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: He was the anchor up front, the ability to dominate
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: with his knee drop technique and take on double teams
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: and just absolutely steinby the line of scrimmage, penetrating into
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: the backfield to get tackles for loss. He did it all.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: He was as dominant as anybody on that number one
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: rank scoring defense.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Tell me about the knee drop technique. I mean, did
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: he invent something that others can copy or did he
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: invent something because he has the body to do it.
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: You know, it's not the first time that a defender
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: has ever done it, but you don't see very many
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: guys around the league that can do it as proficient
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: as he does. And it's typically that is normally a
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: technique that takes players several years into their careers to
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: really master. So for him to be able to do
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: it at the level he's doing that is now going
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: to his third season, is very rare, and that just
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: tells you the type of talent that you're dealing with there.
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: Like I said, there's a handful of guys in the
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: league that can do that at a high level, but
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: most of those players are four or five, six plus
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: years into the league, and for him to be doing
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: it the way he's doing it at this stage of
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: his career is pretty remarkable.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Is there still a lot of growth here? I mean,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: are we looking at somebody that has a lot higher
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: ceiling that he could still yet reach.
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: I think so. I think that this he's still got.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: This is what's crazy. With all the facts he had
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: last year, I still think the pass rush. Mike McDonald
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: even talked about this last week that the third down
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: pass rushing and you know the obvious pass rushing situations,
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: that's where he's still got the most room to improve.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, this is a player that a couple of
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: years ago when they drafted him. The more film I watched,
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: I started to think John Randall, and I think he's
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: got that kind of a ceiling as a pass rusher.
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: And John Randall was a ten plus that guy plenty
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: of times in his career. So I still think that
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: Byron Murphy the second can become that player. Maybe this
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: is the year that he gets double digit sacks for
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: the first time.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Corbet Smith is with us. It's our Seahawks one series.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: We launch it today. It's one of our local insiders,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Hard Workers, covers the Seahawks for you with his Locked
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: On podcast, and of course they're at Emerald Spectrum as well,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: and we interviewed them about one key Seahawk player for
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: an entire segment, and so we started today Corbyn Smith
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: on Byron Murphy and look, I mean this organization is
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: obviously committed financially to JSN. It looks like that they'll
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: do the same thing to Devin Witherspoon before the season
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: gets underway. Where is the priority on Byron Murphy? When
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: is the priority on Byron Murphy? And what kind of
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: a salary is this guy going to command in the
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: coming years.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: Well, I would think that he is next in line
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: to get a fifty year option picked up because John
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: Schneider has just been on a heater when it comes
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: to his first round picks, getting really good football players
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: with those selections. But they're going to get that fifty
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: year option picked up next year to make sure they
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: have an extended window to negotiate an extension. And I
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: think you're looking at a guy that's going to be
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: getting twenty three to twenty four to twenty five million
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: per year when it's all said and done, and the Seahawks,
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: I think will happily write that check for him given
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: the game changer that he is had a premium position
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: at defensive tackle.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Well, that just said, you might be on a heater,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: but you can't afford everyone. I mean, if all of
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: your first round picks come through, plus a couple of
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: extra ones you got Eman warri in the future, all
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: of these picks that you've nailed, you might not be
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: able to keep them all because of the salary cap.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Why is Byron Murphy have to be one of those
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: that you keep?
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: Well, I think you look towards the future. I mean,
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: Leonard Williams is still a really good player, but he's
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: now going to be going into his twelfth season and
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: he's a free agent after this year. I would expect
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: Seattle is going to try to get another contract done
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: on that front. But that's actually a position where they
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: have a few older players and it's just again it's
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: a premium position. Yeah, you can't pay everybody, but it
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: would be in at least my estimation, it would be
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: a massive mistake to let Byron Murphy the second go,
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: and I think the Seahawks feel the same way. I
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: think he's going to be one of the guys that
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: they absolutely are going to find a way to pay
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: and keep him because a desruptive defensive tackle those are
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: really hard to find and he certainly fits that.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Bill does he have weaknesses, Corbyn?
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: I think that as far as weaknesses go, I don't
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: think he has any glaring ones in his game. He
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: can still once in a while get bullied off the
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: ball because he's not the biggest defensive tackle, but he's
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: got such a strong lower body that it doesn't happen
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: very often. I think his hand technique has improved a
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: lot since he first came into the league, and just
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: the consistency aspect took a huge step last year. So
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: I think if he gets even more consistent this season
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: as a pass rusher, this is a pretty polished football player.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, no doubt about it. And he and
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Leonard Williams together, how would you how would you describe
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: that tandem?
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: I think when you look at those two players, they
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: have a lot of similarities, even though they're different body types.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: But I think the big difference here is that position wise,
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: Byron Murphy the second is a natural fit playing that
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: nose tackle spot. Leonard Williams doesn't play in there, and
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: he plays the three techs as well. Leonard Williams plays
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: the three tech and also plays base and they've even
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: used him as a two point stance outside linebacker a
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: handful of time. So they have a little different skill
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: set in terms of where they line up along the
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: line of scrimtage, and that really helps those two when
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: they do stunt games. They're able to do some really
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: fun stuff with their twist stunts with those two, and
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: so I think that they compliment each other in that sense.
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: And then, just like you would say at any time
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: you have two really good defensive tackles, when one of
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: them is drawing attention, it just opens things up for
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: the other and both these guys end up getting a
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: lot of one on ones now because you can't double
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: team as much because you're worried wolf I do that
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: that I'm letting the other guy get a prime opportunity,
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: and so it just puts that much more pressure on
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: opposing your offensive line.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: We have a lot of terrific Seahawks analysts here in town,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: and they've done a good job of describing Byron Murphy's
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: career path here the last couple of years. But I
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: don't know if anyone ever had it more nailed than
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: what his own wife did or girlfriend. I'm not sure,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: But when she gave the breakdown of him last offseason
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: and told Seaawk fans, hey, he's playing too much nose tackle.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: He's not going to ever get a bunch of sacks
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: if he's going to be lining up on the nose.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: So number one, let's talk about you know, his significant
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: other's excellent breakdown skills, and then number two, that period
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: of time playing so much nose tackle. Are we starting
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: to see benefits of that now or was it holding
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: him back in his first couple of years from being
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: as good as he could possibly be.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think it definitely held him back some sack
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: wise his rookie season, and he didn't get as many
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: chances on past rushing downs to really be able to
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: get after the quarterback pen his ears back in this
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: past season, they really did a nice job of mixing
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: in more of those three tech opportunities for him. And
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: I also think the fact that the run defense was
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: even better than it was the year before it created
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: more obvious pass rushing situations which helped the entire front line,
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: and he might have benefited from that more than anyone.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: So I would expect we're still going to see him
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: play quite a bit of nose tackle, but he's gonna,
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: for the rest of his career hopefully be a guy
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: that plays a lot of free tech to create those opportunities.
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: But he rushed better from the nose tackle position last
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: year than he did his rookie or two. I think
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: he can still be a player inside that can do
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: a lot of damage. Again, I see some John Randall
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: in his game. I think he's that kind of a player.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: So we're talking about possibly the best defensive tackle in
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: the sport before his career comes to a close, and
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: maybe as early as this year. Is that what you're
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: telling me.
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: I think he's got that high of a ceiling.
• 59:59
  Speaker 7: I do.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: Even though he's a very polished player, I think there's
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: still another level that he can take it.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Wow, incredible, no question about it. And how does he
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: fit in the clubhouse? He seems to have a little
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't have to have the spotlight. It
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: seems seems to be a little bit quiet, and yet
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: he just seems to blend with the rest of this group.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: You're in that locker room far more than I am.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: How does Byron Murphy the teammate, get along with everybody
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: on this squad.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he might not be mister, he might not be
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: the most vocal, but he is a guy. He lets
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: what he does on the field speak for itself, and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: teammates gravitate to him on the field, and you always
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: see him with a smile on his face in the
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: locker room. So I don't think they have any worries
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: about him being a locker room issue. He is one
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: of those guys that he shows up to work, he
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: gets his work in and gets the job done, and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: his teammates respect him for it is.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: What was that story this offseason where they, you know,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: they faked a bill on him, He was picking up
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: the bill for the defensive lineman and then they faked
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the amount on the receipt.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Did you see that?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Did you see that video?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: I have actually not seen that video, so that would
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: be first for me. Yeah, it was like thirty You
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: know that he had a whether it was fake or real,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: the trophy at his wedding. But I don't know about
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: the other story.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some of like it was like three thousand dollars
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: and they had the waiter put an extra zero on there.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: So they brought him the bill it was like thirty
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: grand or something like that. So he had a little
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: bit of a sticker shock. Oh all right, It seems
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: incredible that this guy's just been with us for two years.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: He just and and who knows how much better he's
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: going to get. But he was a great first choice. Corbin.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Why Byron Murphy? Why did that, why, in your opinion,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: did you have to make him the first guy that
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: we broke down in our series?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: Because I think he is a superstar in waiting, and
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: I thought that he was maybe the biggest snub that
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: they had in terms of all pro selections last year.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: So I felt like, this is the guy we need
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: to talk about to open this all right?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: And do you think that this defense has another gear?
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: How much better can the group get under Mike McDonald
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: in year number three?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: I can see this being a team that gives up
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: under sixteen points per game this year. That's how good
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: I think they can be. I mean, they have almost
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: everybody backed, They've added a few key pieces through the
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: draft and free agency. As long as they stay healthy
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: and don't have a lot of injury issues that's always
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: the big question mark. But I think they have a
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: chance to be utterly dominant on that side of the
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: ball this year.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: All right, last thing for you and then we'll let
• 1:02:52
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• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: out together? Do you go on vacations your families together?
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: What is this star between you and Josh Lucas.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: I don't think that it's gone to that point. But
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: he just happens to he happens to be a diehard
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: Locked On Seahawks listener. He and his son, and he
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: had his son on the show actually as a guest
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: a few years ago, because he reminded me a lot
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: of me when I was nine years old. I'm just
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: spinning out facts and stats and all kinds of stuff
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: about the Seahawks, and yeah, they've been awesome listeners, and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: I've been lucky to develop a relationship with the Lucas family.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: So that's great, that's great. I can't wait to meet
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: him myself and see his Corbyn Smith tattoo that he got.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: I hope not.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: I hope. So Corbyn, all right, man, well awesome stuff,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Thank you sir. We appreciate it and we'll talk to
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: you again.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: Down the line.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Sounds good, Thanks all right, Corbyn Smith. You can follow
• 1:03:58
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• 1:04:02
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks with Rob rang And and we appreciate him. It
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• 1:04:15
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• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: that's why you love the choice, Like there are more
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: obvious choices to a person might gravitate toward, you know,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: an Emon Worry season and he's just so interesting. Witherspoon
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: was contracts up in the air JSN the offensive slash
• 1:04:48
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• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Year, and it's pretty incredible when you win both.
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, I mean, there's some there's some names that
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: leap out at you that you'd think that if you
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: gave somebody the first crack, you get to break down
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: anybody you want. There might be a more obvious name
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: out there. But I like that Corbin's going with Byron Murphy.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: I think that's an appropriate way to get things started,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: because he sort of did fall a little bit under
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: the radar a year ago, and then right around like
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the two thirds way through the season, there was sort
• 1:05:22
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• 1:05:25
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• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: might be fast becoming the best defensive tackle and the
• 1:05:33
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• 1:05:37
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• 1:05:42
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• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: fly under the radar at all.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna be a leadoff hitter.
• 1:05:48
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• 1:05:50
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• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: And the thoughts of Seahawk fans heading into this season
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: and if this team and this defense does that next
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: step forward. I mean, you're already world champions and led
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: primarily by your defense, but I think there are a
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: lot of people believe there's another gear or two that
• 1:06:11
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• 1:06:15
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• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: about as important a figure to all of that as
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: anybody on this roster.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say just listening to Corbyn talk about
• 1:06:25
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• 1:06:27
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• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: You go from a half a sack in your first
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: season to seven in your second season, maybe double digits
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: in this season. And that is not even the element
• 1:06:38
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• 1:06:42
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• 1:06:45
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• 1:06:47
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• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: He might not ever get to that stage. But in
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: terms of just being an interior dominant force who who
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: you know, takes up the interior, makes plays, maybe not
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: makes plays behind the line of scrimmage, then that to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: me is you know, that guy's worth is weight in
• 1:07:12
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  Speaker 1: and Breakfast Chuck and Ashley with you here on this
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  Speaker 1: Monday morning. As yes, we recap the Mariners game, not once,
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  Speaker 1: but twice during the course of the show. At least
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  Speaker 1: we will be for the foreseeable future. They're coming off
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  Speaker 1: a sweep of the Arizona Diamondbacks. They did win on
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  Speaker 1: Sunday by a final score.
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  Speaker 4: Of three to two.
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  Speaker 1: A little touch and go there for a little while,
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  Speaker 1: as the piggyback certainly made the anti piggyback people angry
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  Speaker 1: again yesterday, despite excellent inning of work after excellent inning
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  Speaker 1: of work from Bryce Miller and even Luis Castillo, even
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  Speaker 1: though he gave up two runs, one of them unearned
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  Speaker 1: and both of them frankly should have been unearned in
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  Speaker 1: the contest. But the Mariners, who would eventually win the
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  Speaker 1: game with a little squibber of a single. They were
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  Speaker 1: playing long ball earlier. And what a great game out
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  Speaker 1: of the seven hole for the MS as Dom Canzone
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  Speaker 1: started the game batting seventh, and he also gave the
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  Speaker 1: team the lead at one point.
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  Speaker 7: Well runs at a premium today on both sides. The
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  Speaker 7: Diamondbacks have tied it up. Canzona rocket down the right
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  Speaker 7: field corner, disball heck god, and the Mariners take the lead,
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  Speaker 7: burning back Hope runs it back to back games for
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  Speaker 7: not ken Zone.
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  Speaker 1: How about that seven now on the year Mariners TV.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Goldsmith there on the call, our friend Ryan Healy, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even hear him, not on that part Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: come on, now.
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  Speaker 2: He was chatting away. Yeah, but you know what he
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  Speaker 2: wasn't doing talking over the pitches.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's true, that's true. He let it play out,
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  Speaker 1: didn't he. I appreciated that dom Ganzone had a really
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  Speaker 1: good day at the plate, not just the home run
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  Speaker 1: to give the team the two to one lead, but
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  Speaker 1: he also had a bass hit single later on in
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  Speaker 1: the contest, and I thought they made the right decision.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Dan Wilson made the right decision going with
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  Speaker 1: a pinch runner at that point. Remember he let Luke
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  Speaker 1: Rayley bat at one point, even though they had brought
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  Speaker 1: in a lefty. He's like, you know what, that's your
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  Speaker 1: only lefty. That's the only time you can play that
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  Speaker 1: car card. So I'm gonna go ahead with two outs
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  Speaker 1: because the Rose Arena just hitting a double play. Nobody on,
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  Speaker 1: I don't exactly have something cooking. I might need Rayley
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  Speaker 1: later in the contest. So we kept Raley in the game,
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  Speaker 1: and he actually made pretty decent contact. He was out,
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  Speaker 1: but he made pretty decent contact, and then later facing
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  Speaker 1: a ridy Canzone gets the hit. And yes, you ran
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  Speaker 1: the risk because Arizona only has right handers. You run
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  Speaker 1: the risk if you pinch run Roblaze for canzone, they
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  Speaker 1: Roblaze might have to face a right hander later in
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  Speaker 1: the game, egad. And yet I thought that those were
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  Speaker 1: both the right decisions, keeping Rayleian and then Roblaze obviously
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  Speaker 1: a lot faster than Dom. He pinch runs and it
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  Speaker 1: ended up not burning you. You didn't score. Roblaz didn't
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  Speaker 1: come around to score in that moment in a tie game,
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  Speaker 1: but he eventually did come to the plate against a
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  Speaker 1: right hander second and third tenth inning with one out,
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  Speaker 1: and he got the job done with the infield single.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's growth by Dan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I was surprised, especially by him keeping rayleyan,
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  Speaker 2: And as we were sitting there, five Iron was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh god, it would have been great if he kept
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  Speaker 2: him in and he hit the home run. But I
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  Speaker 2: mean it was still perfectly fine, and to be able
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  Speaker 2: to have him later was great, and I was surprised
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  Speaker 2: it was not. It was a very Unmarriner's Dan like
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  Speaker 2: move that we've seen so far the season.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're seeing growth. I think maybe we're starting
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  Speaker 1: to get our arms around it, but we shall see
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  Speaker 1: the piggyback. I'm sorry to say this to everybody that
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  Speaker 1: hates it. It's working.
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  Speaker 4: It's worked.
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  Speaker 1: We've gotten the best out of Luis Castill we've seen
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  Speaker 1: all year long. I don't know if the responsibility of
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  Speaker 1: sharing a day with another pitcher has locked him in
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  Speaker 1: focused him in. I mean, he's thrown ninety eight again.
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  Speaker 1: He was thrown ninety two earlier this year, ninety two.
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  Speaker 1: Now those were in cold weather games, but he was
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  Speaker 1: like ninety two to ninety four, and now he's back
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  Speaker 1: to ninety six. He's got movement on his pitches. He
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  Speaker 1: seems convicted out there. I don't like that he walked
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  Speaker 1: a guy to start his day, but the truth of
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  Speaker 1: the matter is he had incredibly sloppy defense played behind
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  Speaker 1: him in the game, and it led to both of
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  Speaker 1: the runs, not just one of the runs, It led
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  Speaker 1: to both of the runs. Otherwise, maybe he breezes through
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  Speaker 1: the last three or four innings in this contest. As
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  Speaker 1: it turns out, they let him pitch the tenth inning,
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  Speaker 1: So a ten inning game, Miller pitches five, Castillo pitches five.
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  Speaker 1: Both looked really good to great. Miller is the one
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  Speaker 1: I would describe as great. And so the piggyback has
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  Speaker 1: won two out of three games, should have won three
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  Speaker 1: if they would have gotten any run support at all.
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  Speaker 1: Back in the first time they tried it, they have
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  Speaker 1: a combined DRA of one point six seven the two pitchers,
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  Speaker 1: and they have saved the entire bullpen two times in
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  Speaker 1: the last two times that they have tried it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sorry if you hate it, but that is a complete
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  Speaker 1: success right there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, massive success. And again that's where I didn't understand
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  Speaker 2: all the frustration for people. It was never going to
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  Speaker 2: be a permanent solution. It is not a permanent solution.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're going to the six man rotation right now,
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  Speaker 2: so it is giving them flexibility to work with Castillo
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  Speaker 2: and Miller and keep them both active and in there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very intrigued to see how Castillo will come out
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  Speaker 2: starting the game and on his own. If you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing such great things from him in the piggyback situations.
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  Speaker 2: I'm wondering if that will continue into the six man rotation.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I see a guy that looks like he could
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  Speaker 1: be pretty dominant out of the bullpen if that's what
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  Speaker 1: we eventually settle on. I don't think we will settle
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  Speaker 1: on a six man rotation and I don't think we'll
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  Speaker 1: do piggyback for the rest of the year. I think
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  Speaker 1: a few things have emerged, which we'll talk about in
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  Speaker 1: the ABC's that should clarify things for everyone involved, including
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  Speaker 1: the fans going forward. But I mean, it's kind of weird,
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  Speaker 1: like I kind of want to see it again now,
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  Speaker 1: and now we're moving away from it for two times
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  Speaker 1: through the rotation, and I think unnecessarily so. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you had a week coming up where you didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a day off, then I understand why you would
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  Speaker 1: want to go back to the six man rotation. But
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  Speaker 1: you do have a day off on Thursday, it kind
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  Speaker 1: of feels like you just are worried it's going to
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  Speaker 1: blow up in your face.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and you're going, yeah, you're going on the road
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  Speaker 2: where Castio doesn't pitch as well too, so that's where
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  Speaker 2: I would think it would be prime opportunity to use
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  Speaker 2: your piggyback again.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they're going to go six man rotation two times
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  Speaker 1: through the rotation here going forward, and maybe that's the
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  Speaker 1: last we saw of it. Maybe, And if that's the
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  Speaker 1: last we saw of it, I think there were more
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  Speaker 1: good things about it than bad things about it. Another
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  Speaker 1: thing popped up though. During the course of the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: cal Raley was back in the dugout and he kind
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  Speaker 1: of hinted that he's back in the dugout for good.
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  Speaker 1: Does that mean he's ready to play? The media Horde
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  Speaker 1: of Seattle caught up with cal over the weekend.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, I'm feeling great, talk to the guys here
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  Speaker 9: already and you know, evaluations and uh, you know, trying
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  Speaker 9: to trying to get rolling as fast as I can
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  Speaker 9: well while being smart make sure that.
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  Speaker 1: When I do come back, it's it's not gonna uh
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  Speaker 1: you know, hinder me anymore.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just kind of playing that game.
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  Speaker 9: Was like the puffin and the dugout last night and
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  Speaker 9: just beat with the teammates again that death field.
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  Speaker 3: It was great.
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  Speaker 10: I'm super excited to see everybody, you know. Unfortunately a
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  Speaker 10: little later and I wanted to but have afessional stuff
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  Speaker 10: there and it's god. I got to come and watch
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  Speaker 10: a good win last night and see the boys.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, you know, to hang out with dug out.
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  Speaker 1: What are you doing today?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, we just got with the training staff.
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  Speaker 11: We talked, uh, kind of set up a plan for
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  Speaker 11: today tomorrow and you just gonna follow it nothing really today,
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  Speaker 11: that's uh, just trending us today, you know, do some
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  Speaker 11: stuff in the.
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  Speaker 9: Training room and rehab and and you know hit in fact,
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  Speaker 9: you know tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: It'll be a lot more about hiring this.
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  Speaker 1: What has a thank you? What has a day in
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  Speaker 1: your life been?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: Ten days?
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  Speaker 11: So it's been getting up early, go to the field
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  Speaker 11: Arizona and good great group there that's been helping out.
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  Speaker 11: So it's been rehabbing, rehabing us more and then still training,
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  Speaker 11: you know, still plifting weights and running and trying to
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  Speaker 11: stand inside of the trail and then you know a
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  Speaker 11: little bit more, uh you rehab stuff.
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  Speaker 9: So getting home early, you're really going to do yourself.
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  Speaker 11: Just waiting for the games and golong and uh, you know, just.
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  Speaker 3: At nothing.
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  Speaker 4: I guess a whole lot of nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what he said cal Raleigh over the weekend
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  Speaker 1: being back in the dugouts.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I know that he can't take that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when he says and just in then I'm
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  Speaker 2: waiting for the games come on so I can watch
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  Speaker 2: the games, rehaving rehaving in a whole lot of nothing.
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  Speaker 1: I did think it'd be a pretty good sounding board
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  Speaker 1: for for pitchers there. Yeah, but nonetheless, obviously we were
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  Speaker 1: excited to get him back. Sounds like moving in the
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  Speaker 1: right direction. I just read last week that there was
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  Speaker 1: a target date soft target date at CBS Sports of
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  Speaker 1: June fifth. They are now saying it's pushed back a
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  Speaker 1: week to June twelfth. Maybe more of a conservative estimate there.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, he's got to start to actually swinging the
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  Speaker 1: bat like he means it, and not just to you know,
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  Speaker 1: get things loose. He's got to let it rip here
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  Speaker 1: over the course of the next week or so to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that it's gonna hold up, the side's going
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  Speaker 1: to hold up. So but we're playing our best baseball
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  Speaker 1: right now, you know, and don't muck that up.
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  Speaker 2: Cal, He's like, oh never, and I'll stay out lung.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 1: But man, if we can start just you know, playing
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  Speaker 1: consistently well. The pitching we've been getting has been fantastic
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  Speaker 1: as of late, and then you can get your best
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  Speaker 1: player back. All good, all points signing, all points, all
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  Speaker 1: signs pointing to good right now for this baseball team.
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  Speaker 1: So what did we learn kids from today's Baseball Brunch
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  Speaker 1: starring dom Canzone and featuring Cal Raley, Kyle Roley, Jr.
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  Speaker 1: I like to call him cal. We learned that the
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  Speaker 1: piggyback is working, believe it or not. We also learned
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  Speaker 1: that Dan may be starting to solve this mysterious lefty
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  Speaker 1: righty sub thing. I think we're seeing some progress in
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  Speaker 1: that area. Tonight's going to be a really good test
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  Speaker 1: for that, by the way, because you're gonna have an
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  Speaker 1: opener who's right handed, and then the Mets have a
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  Speaker 1: long left long lefty reliever, a long righty reliever, and
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  Speaker 1: they've got three lefty arms out of their bullpen that
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  Speaker 1: they can use tonight. So Dan's gonna get tested as
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  Speaker 1: to whether or not he's making progress on that front.
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  Speaker 1: And then the other thing we learned is that the
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  Speaker 1: Diamondbacks weren't hot. They just like beating up on the week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't do that.
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  Speaker 3: Let's beat up on the week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yep.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So thank you for joining us here for
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  Speaker 1: the Baseball Brunch. Coming up next, Well, this is a
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  Speaker 1: special edition of Gone Fishing.
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  Speaker 4: It's the Thunder Edition.
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, little buddy, have the thunder.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I'm picture, Just spreading joy. Yeah, Spencer
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  Speaker 1: Hall is just dancing around the neighborhood. Yeah, just spreading
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  Speaker 1: joy wherever he can. Joining us now on the program.
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  Speaker 1: Is a local basketball legend, and he's been our NBA
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  Speaker 1: insider during the playoffs each of the last two years.
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  Speaker 1: Said he is with us on a special Monday because
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  Speaker 1: the thunders championship dreams are dead. Good morning, sir, Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny you say that.
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  Speaker 6: I actually I got into it with a couple of
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  Speaker 6: Missus Crabtrees after the game when they were filing out
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  Speaker 6: and we were trying to make our way down to
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  Speaker 6: watch that trophy presentation. But what a funeral for the
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  Speaker 6: Thunder and their cute little dynasty that they were putting together.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if if there's a better win.
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  Speaker 6: For a Seattle sports fan that's not a Seattle game,
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  Speaker 6: Seattle team participating in, I don't know that I can
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  Speaker 6: remember one, which is a joyous, joyous occasion. I still
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  Speaker 6: I'm still floating. I can't believe I sluck last night.
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  Speaker 6: So you were there, Yeah, so I've got a complean.
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  Speaker 6: I lied last time we were on because I didn't
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  Speaker 6: I did not want to be a distraction to to
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  Speaker 6: the Maestro, to Mitchell. So we decided to make it
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  Speaker 6: kind of like a seal team six covert operation, got
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  Speaker 6: all the plans in place and then just went ahead
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  Speaker 6: and uh, we do they're going to win, and so
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  Speaker 6: we figured we'd see him afterwards and surprise him a
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  Speaker 6: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Well, how did it go then? I mean, tell us
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  Speaker 1: what the light evening was like then with Mitch Johnson
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  Speaker 1: after he pulls off his biggest win of his career.
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  Speaker 3: Uh he he looked relieved.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, you know that a series like that takes it
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  Speaker 6: out anybody, especially if you're the guy that has to
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  Speaker 6: make all the decisions that you know, one way or
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  Speaker 6: another determined generally determined the output or the outcome. But
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  Speaker 6: uh no, it was It was awesome and that you know,
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  Speaker 6: that team is it's so fun to watch. They're so young,
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  Speaker 6: they still don't really know, they still don't really know
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  Speaker 6: what they're doing a lot of the time out there,
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  Speaker 6: but they have a collective spirit and a competitive spirit
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  Speaker 6: that gives them a chance and.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, on that Game seven, it was more
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  Speaker 3: than enough.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well what did it come down to in
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  Speaker 1: your estimation? What was the key to the victory for
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  Speaker 1: the Spurs?
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  Speaker 6: They took care of the ball better than they had that.
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  Speaker 6: I think as the series went on they got a
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  Speaker 6: lot better at that and not giving the Thunder others
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  Speaker 6: the opportunities to get easy ones in transition. Offensive rebounding
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  Speaker 6: was an issue for them pretty much all series. I
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  Speaker 6: think the Thunders saw something early and especially when they
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  Speaker 6: had the two bigs in there, were really taking advantage of.
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  Speaker 3: Crashing the boards.
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  Speaker 6: And even at the start of that Game seven, they
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  Speaker 6: were if they didn't make the first one, they'd get
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  Speaker 6: get a second offensive rebound and kick it out and
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  Speaker 6: Shade be standing there wide open, and you.
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  Speaker 3: Know what's going to happen then.
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  Speaker 6: So I think they really in that second half they
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  Speaker 6: tightened tightened up those aspects of it, and then it
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  Speaker 6: was a ton of a strategy that I was waiting
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  Speaker 6: an adjustment I was waiting for, especially when they you know,
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  Speaker 6: Jalen Williams, the the good one.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to call him the good one, but
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  Speaker 3: the better one.
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  Speaker 6: I hate the j Dubb J will that's Thunder, that's
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  Speaker 6: Thunder propaganda nicknames.
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  Speaker 3: When he wasn't going to be in there.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously, Shay is capable of going for forty or fifty
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  Speaker 6: or sixty on a given night much harder to do
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  Speaker 6: in the playoffs, and I think you know, he was
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  Speaker 6: rolling Game seven, He was rolling early.
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  Speaker 3: We knew that was going to happen.
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  Speaker 6: He was going to be hunting a shot, and the
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  Speaker 6: Spurs not allowing it, but being a little more strategic
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  Speaker 6: and muted in the situations, they doubled him, did not
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  Speaker 6: allow the other guys to get the looks that they
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  Speaker 6: were getting, especially early in the series, and making the
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  Speaker 6: other guys beat them, of which without those two, uh
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  Speaker 6: Mitchell and Williams, you know, they just clearly didn't have
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: the horses on the offensive end if the other guys
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: weren't get getting open books off shay chet.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Holmgren's getting killed nationally. I would imagine he is in
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma as well. He kind of had a disappearing act.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: How strange is it to be seven foot tall? You're
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: always the tallest guy on the floor, and then all
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, you go up against Yaoming
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: like you probably did in your career. He's got to
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: go up against a wimby and suddenly one of the
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: advantages that he'd known his entire career, he's the dwarf
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: on the court, you know, he's the guy. He's the
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: guy can't get his shot off and is scared to
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: shoot for fear of it getting blocked. What was your
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: recap on chet Holmgren's performance down the stretch Here?
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: Clearly it was the mental more so than the physical
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: with him. When when you're turning down.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: Three point opportunities where yeah, Wemby, I guess theoretically could
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: maybe block one of those, he's probably not going to
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: and most of the time it wasn't wembyond chip and
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: he's turning those down.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: And when you see when you see.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 6: Space guys especially you know, stretch floors, fives, whatever you
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: want to call them. When and I was guilty of
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: this when I played, when you start pump faking shots
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: that you you know you can get off and you
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 6: know one dribble spin or you know, swing the ball
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: the pump fake, that's when you know guys out of rhythm.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: And as the series went on further and further, it
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: was like he wasn't even doing that anymore. He was
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: just catching it looking to get off of it. And
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 6: you know, to only take two field goal or four
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 6: field goal attempts in a closeout game, that's not I
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 6: can't imagine that was the game plan. And you know
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 6: he's from the outside looking in, it appears he's got
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: a little bit of a of a Wemby problem in
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: terms of that just the confidence. Obviously he's an incredible player.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: You just made thirteen All NBA, which I don't think
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 6: is helping the narrative right now. But he's he's far
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 6: more talented than he showed. And you know, it's you
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: hate going into an off season, but that's the last
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: taste in your mouth, and so it's probably it's probably
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: gonna be a long one for him.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: And now you know, the trade rumors.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 6: Start percolating, and that's just that's kind of the nature
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 6: of the beast when when you have expectations at a
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 6: certain level and they aren't met or close to met, that.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: This is what comes along with it.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 6: It's been pretty easy for him, I would say, up
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: until this point, and mostly credit to him and you know,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 6: for making it that way, because he's had such an
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 6: effect beginning to his career. But these are this is
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 6: some adversity that he's hitting and it's going to be
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: interesting to see how he responds and how the organization responds.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: If it's changed. If it's changed their plans at all.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: You know, they knew Wenby was coming. I think if
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: you can get them off the record, they'd say they
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: were worried to terrified, and it's like the nightmares come true.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 6: Probably a couple of seasons earlier than they had penciled in,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: and it's it's gonna be interesting. They got some salary
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 6: cap issues in Oklahoma and they're gonna have to make
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: some decisions going forward. It could look could look differently,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: and you could see Pressy having to play some cars
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 6: that he doesn't usually have to put on the table.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Now, I mean, they're just so well built, so well constructed.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: And then I mean, I mean, if Wimby doesn't come
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: into our lives, if he doesn't come into San Antonio's lives,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: if they didn't get that lottery lottery ball luck to
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: basically win the lottery three years in a row, I mean,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: what were Sonic fans gonna have to face with this
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: OKAC team? I mean, were you braced for watching you know,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: five six championships before Wimby has changed the entire outlook
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: for them going forward, because now they're the chaser. They're
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out a way to beat a young,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: growing getting better with every game Spurs team going forward,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe it ends up Spencer, it's just a one and
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: done championship for the OKC Thunder when I think maybe
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: a year ago people were wondering if they were going
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: to win five or six during the next decade.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's I think it's too hard in this in
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: this format with the way that they've especially now the
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 6: way that they've reshaped the lottery and the salary cap
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: with the Aprons, and we don't need to go down
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 6: that rabbit hole.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: But the parody in the league in the last eight.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 6: Or ten years has been incredible, and I think that's
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 6: what That's what everybody wanted, whether it's the fans or
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: the league or the owners, is to have that opportunity
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: to compete. And I was concerned the worst thing that
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 6: could happen is they win it, right, and that happens
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 6: last year because Haliburton gets hurt.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: Throw that in.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: So it's like, all right, we take that, Missus Crabtree.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 6: It's not as bad. Maybe it's not as bad as
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 6: we thought. And then you immediately, you know, you start
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 6: looking for You're like, who if it isn't Wenby? What
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 6: is gonna what is going to derail this operation? And
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 6: now that it it, it was Wenby turns out and
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 6: it and it happened, you know, not even a year
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 6: after they got their first one. The narratives can change
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 6: quickly from dynasty talk to uh, do we have to
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 6: blow up this core that everyone thought would be the
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 6: envy of the league for years to come.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: I've been saying for a year and a half that
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: Jannis is going to end up on OKC. They're going
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: to use their draft capital and probably holmegrin this offseason
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: to go get him because they need a they need
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: some sort of Wemby defense system, and he's the other
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: long freak in the NBA that might be able to
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: negate some of that advantage. Is that something that you
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: think they should do, Not that you want them to,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: not that you want them to bridge the gap, but
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: do you think that that's a possible move that we're
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: going to have to confront? Is that the thunder just
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: added Yanis.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: To this equation? Yeah, I don't want to see that,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: But Janice is. Janice is.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 6: For as incredible as a player and MVP champion, MVP
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: Championship MVP as he is. He he is a because
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 6: he's been in the position the last you know, six seven,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: eight years where he's almost part or should be part
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: of the facto front office in Milwaukee.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 5: He is.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: He is very smart.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 6: He knows, he's calculated, and you know he knows his
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 6: best shot is staying in the East. I still think
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 6: Miami can probably put together the best package of between assets,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: pick assets, pick equity, and players and good young players
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 6: to make a run at him. I still think that's
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 6: if you're Milwaukee, that's the best return you're going to get.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 6: But you know, Chet would have been a week ago
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 6: absolutely off the table or not. He's not on the block,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 6: and then it's things can change, and who knows if
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 6: he really is, you know, behind the scenes in their
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 6: front office. I guess everybody's untouchable until they aren't. But
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 6: I think Giannis being one example. But I think the
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 6: league you're going to see a shift here between what
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 6: the Thunder and the Spurs have been able to do
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 6: and how they've been able to position themselves. I think
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 6: you're going to see a bit of an exodus from
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 6: the Western Conference team. I mean, Minnesota's whole organization's trying
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 6: to get to the East just one player. It's like
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 6: they want to take the the whole team and stick
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 6: them in the Eastern Conference. So I think that's you
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 6: see these ebbs and flows, and if you're a player,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 6: and you're a star player, and especially if maybe you're
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 6: getting closer to middle to the end of your career
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: and you're looking at how do I chase championships? The
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 6: easier route has been for the last however many decades
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 6: to go through the East.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: And I think we're these two teams at the top.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: That's that's only exaggerated. Now.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: Seattle basketball legend Spencer also with us here. He's been
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: our inside of the last two NBA playoffs and we're
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: getting ready for the NBA Finals now, as he joins
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: us here on this Monday morning. So, did you get
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: Mitch to let his hair down a little bit, the little,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: you know, the old school partying somewhere in a private,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: you know area in an Oklahoma City bar or did
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: you did he say, no, I got to start reading
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: up on Jalen Brunson here. No.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 6: They they kind of corralled us into a little kind
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 6: of court side club type situation and We got to
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 6: talk to him for five or ten minutes, and then
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: he was back to getting on the plane.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: They were back to San Antonio and then right straight
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: to the film.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 6: There's no celebrating yet, there's still four more to go.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: And then didn't stop you from celebrating, though, did it?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: Oh no, we no, we celebrated. We celebrated on his
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: behalf and took great joy.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 6: And you know the fans that were that were friendly
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 6: and said congratulations and whatever, Oh yeah, thank you. We
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: had a huge part in it. You know, we left
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: them alone. But the ones that wanted to come with
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: a little bit of hostility, it was. It was met
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 6: and exceeded.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: Did you wear Spurs gear, Sonics gear, combination of the two?
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: What did you do?
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 11: Oh?
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 5: I got.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 6: I got my cowboy hat that I picked up before
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 6: Game three, My Spurs cowboy hat that kind of got
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: around gout around the internet a little bit. And then
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: I have a buddy down in California that captured a
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 6: little screenshot of me yelling at chat during that game.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 6: Got some shirts made that said big Texas, and so
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 6: I had that with the hat. And then I had
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: my uncle's old Sonic shooting shirt from I don't know, Nice,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: what year, Uh you know, the true polyester you got it.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 6: You got to wear something under that. I don't know
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 6: how they they did it with no uh no protection,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: but so that was my that was my combo.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: Very nice. I love it.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: And and how how excited are you really that?
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, Mitch Johnson kind of has to leave Seattle
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: to become a true Seattle hero. I know he was
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: a good player, and I know he's a you know,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: one of Seattle's own. But all of a sudden, I
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: mean there's Mitch Johnson, love everywhere for him in his hometown.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: How excited are you about that?
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, I like, I can't even put into words.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: I mean he he's been one of my best friends
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: since going back to high school. And to watch his
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: journey and and you know, even going to Stanford, I
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 6: think was everyone assumed he'd stay at home and he'd
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 6: kind of always been uh been in the shadows with
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 6: even on his own AAU team with uh John Brockman
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 6: and Martel and Mike, and I think going to Stanford
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 6: gave him a chance to kind of spread his wings.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 6: And then you know, having to go over and playing
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: Europe in the G League and then having that not
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 6: work out and coming home and all right, what am
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 6: I gonna do?
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: Now I'm coaching.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna start coaching kids, and now I'm gonna start
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 6: coaching a high school team, and all right, now I
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 6: got to move my family down to Austin, Texas and
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 6: you know, go coach in the G League and grind
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 6: out down there.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, uh, there was nothing on his path that
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: was the easy way to do things.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: And he kept grinding and and he kept trusting himself
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 6: and and uh, you know, choosing choosing some great people
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 6: around him to help mentor him into that role. And
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 6: it's just I'm so happy for him and his family
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 6: and and the Spurs, and I mean, I just it's
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 6: you take a step back. It's hard to believe his
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 6: first official year of coaching. Yeah, he's going to play,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 6: going to Chase Hilario O'Brien in a couple of nights.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: So that's phenomenal.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: Just proud of them, happy for him, and can't wait
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: for four more.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it starts on Wednesday. He'll be spending some
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: of his next week in Madison Square Garden trying to
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: win an NBA championship for goodness sake. So I mean,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna spend a lot of time today previewing
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: the NBA Finals because there was so much to recap.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: But man, the Knicks are playing some awfully good basketball.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: Who ends up winning this title?
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: Do you think? Well?
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: As as I was reminded when I walk into the
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 6: building Saturday night, home court is a real thing, and
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 6: that's why you like during the regular season to get it.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 6: And the Spurs have had it, you know, in the
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 6: first two rounds and they lose it. Now they got
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 6: it again, which is always kind of weird, but they
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 6: earned it.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: And I think.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 6: It's the two teams that have that have gotten better
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 6: as the team's gone or as the year has gone along,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 6: and that are playing the best basketball right now, and
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 6: that's what you hope for. I think Wemby even in
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 6: that Game seven, I mean he was he had a
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 6: good game. I don't think he had the type of
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: game that people would have thought he needed to have
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 6: to win in that environment. And that's a testament to
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 6: the rest of the guys on the Spurs and if
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 6: they can continue to pick up the slack, if you know,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 6: if he's not rolling or he's kind of sacrificing himself
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 6: to to take that run of the defense. Then I
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 6: think the Spurs are they're the favorites for a reason.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 6: But the Knicks got a lot of guys. They got
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 6: a lot of guys that shooters that are shooting well
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 6: and guys that maybe weren't considered shooters that are shooting well.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 6: And so it's it's going to be interesting to see.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 6: I think the matchups will be fascinating. What the Knicks
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 6: trying to do with Wemby, how to the Spurs guard
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 6: Karl Anthony Towns.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: I think whether you got a horse in the race or.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 6: You're just a basketball fean, I think this is a
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 6: great matchup between two franchises, story franchises. You got the venues,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 6: you know, going to the finals in the Garden for
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 6: the first time since I was a little kid. There's
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 6: a lot of stuff, a lot of intriguing plots and
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 6: subplots going into these finals, and.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: I just I wish it was Wednesday.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The most intriguing thing is our Green Jacket draft.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: You know, a fantasy league that we had you draft.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: You're fifty eight points back of me heading into the finals.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: But you've got Wimby and Fox, I've got Castle. I
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: think you're doing pretty well. I think you're gonna talk.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: What's the surprise. What's the prize for that? A million dollars?
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: A million dollars, I don't know. Maybe another cowboy hat.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe that'll be the prize. I'll get you a matching
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: cowboy hat to take to New York with you.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 6: I think, well, this one had some bad Now it's
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 6: got some good good luck, So I think we're gonna
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 6: roll with this one.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: All right, man, Well that's that was some great stuff.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you had a great time in Oklahoma City,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: brought home to win, and we will talk to you
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: again next week.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 4: Enjoy the finals, sir, Thank you for having me.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: All right, Spencer, Spencer Oz joining us right here on
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Chuck and back. How about that. That's some insider stuff
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: right there. I mean, that's that's one thing to be
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: our our analyst for both the postseason. It's another thing
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: that you know, you've got a friendship that goes back
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: to your teenage years with the head coach of the
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: team that's getting ready to play in the NBA Finals.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: So no, that's pretty fun.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I love that that Mitch Johnson's name's blowing
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: up here in town here in Seattle, still loves this
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: town and still you know, has the connections to so
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: many things back here, and now he's representing us on
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: this big stage. He's taking out the thunder for every
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: Seattleite out there, and so I have a feeling all
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  Speaker 1: of Seattle is rooting for the San Antonio Spurs this week.
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  Speaker 2: you will be.
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  Speaker 1: the MS, we get to start at the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the alphabet today because I did I did the old
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  Speaker 2: Love what it is really nice to wrap up on
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sometimes it just happens that way. But we
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  Speaker 1: have a little bit of breaking news to pass along
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  Speaker 1: to you here this morning. Looks like Russell Wilson has
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  Speaker 1: a brand new job.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, but Chuck, I thought Russell Wilson had a brand
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  Speaker 2: new job.
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  Speaker 1: He is going to be the new analyst at CBS
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  Speaker 1: Sports OH for their NFL package. So studio analyst Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: So he's not going to back up Gino Smith for
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  Speaker 2: the Jets.
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't look like it.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be a talking head. So I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: assuming that this is him stepping away. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if this is just I don't know if he would
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  Speaker 1: if somebody offered him a job midway through the year.
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  Speaker 1: He might be the type of guy that did take it.
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  Speaker 1: If he's halfway through the season and the yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens are like Lamar's hurt, Russell, Yeah, I'm right there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe he hasn't played.
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  Speaker 1: His last football, but he's at least trying to start
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  Speaker 1: his new career. I don't know how this was work
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  Speaker 1: Number one. I think he's a bright guy. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's I think he knows ball. And yet where's the personality,
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  Speaker 1: where's that edge, Where's gonna be that commentary that you
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  Speaker 1: know makes us think, But then again, they don't really
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  Speaker 1: hire anyone of talent on CBS Sports, so maybe it
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  Speaker 1: won't matter. But nonetheless, I he doesn't exactly seem.
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  Speaker 4: Like a great fit.
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  Speaker 1: But then again, I don't think anybody over on Foxes
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  Speaker 1: any good to their pregame show anymore either.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm definitely never tuning in for the personalities
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  Speaker 2: on the shows.
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  Speaker 1: It's more like or the Insight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just because it's not like Gronks any good
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  Speaker 2: at it.
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  Speaker 1: No, we're good to.
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  Speaker 2: Find out, Chuck. It's just I'm only tuning in because
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  Speaker 2: I'm waiting for a football game to start, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: putting that on so that I can hear football talk
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  Speaker 2: before a football game.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what the NFL networks for. You actually get
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  Speaker 1: good guys, right, But if I'm tuning in anywhere, it's
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  Speaker 1: only for that.
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  Speaker 2: It's not for any personalities really, And I mean he
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  Speaker 2: could surprise us, I suppose, but I don't think I'll
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  Speaker 2: be tuning in enough to find out.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a chance he could surprise I think
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  Speaker 1: there is, but I don't know if that's going to
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  Speaker 1: be my choice.
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  Speaker 3: To be on my.
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  Speaker 2: He's just crazy still too, and that's not going away.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get to the ABC SID the ms,
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  Speaker 1: and we do start at the beginning of the alphabet.
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  Speaker 1: And A is for appalling, because that's exactly what the
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  Speaker 1: defense was for Luis Castillo yesterday. This was not about
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  Speaker 1: a piggyback gone wrong or I'm sick to death of
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  Speaker 1: the piggyback. This is for whatever reason, when Bryce Miller
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  Speaker 1: came out of the game and Luis Castillo went into
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  Speaker 1: the game, it's like every defender's brain went to mush.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly do it intentionally. I don't know if the sun
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  Speaker 1: got in the eyes on a couple of times, kind
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  Speaker 1: of seemed like it did. But between the JP cole
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  Speaker 1: you got it.
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  Speaker 5: I got it.
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  Speaker 1: Who's got it?
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  Speaker 7: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: No, okay, thanks Leo.
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  Speaker 1: Ground ball that went up the middle to the Parada
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  Speaker 1: pass ball, not a wild pitch. That was a pass ball.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't even move. We got a glove on it
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  Speaker 1: without even sliding over to pounce on that thing. Second
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  Speaker 1: and third, you got to move your whole body. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta do whatever it takes to smother that ball. And
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  Speaker 1: Parada got a glove on it. That was not that
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  Speaker 1: bad a pitch that was a pass ball that was
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  Speaker 1: no wild pitch. Then he had the nailer error, trying
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  Speaker 1: to be a hero rather than taking the out Arizona
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  Speaker 1: was willing to give you. And then you'd have Julio
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  Speaker 1: not calling off Randy in center field when he's got
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  Speaker 1: the better arm and the ball was in center field,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't even in left It was a better angle
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  Speaker 1: for him.
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  Speaker 2: To throw home and instead off there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Steady lets Randy cut in front of him
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  Speaker 1: and take the ball at a weird angle. And he's
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  Speaker 1: got a terrible throwing arm, and Julio's got a great
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  Speaker 1: throwing arm. So I don't know what happened to our
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  Speaker 1: defense in that moment, but it wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: A piggyback issue. It was we played terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Defense yesterday behind Luis Castillo. Otherwise it wouldn't have had
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  Speaker 1: to go down to the tenth inning and trying to
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  Speaker 1: scratch out a win. We should have won that thing
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  Speaker 1: a lot easier.
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  Speaker 2: We should have, And it was really disappointing to see
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  Speaker 2: what happened once Castillo came in, because it does feel
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  Speaker 2: like there's already so much pressure on this piggyback situation
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  Speaker 2: and on everything you know, going well, everybody's watching it
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  Speaker 2: with eagle eyed vision for anything that could go wrong,
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  Speaker 2: so that they can bolster their argument that the piggyback sucks.
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  Speaker 2: And so to have that happen the second Castillo comes
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  Speaker 2: in after they'd been so great for Miller, I mean
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  Speaker 2: there were still some great defensive plays, Cole Young's jump
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  Speaker 2: up to I mean that grab was awesome, but it was, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was just unfortunate to be watching this
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  Speaker 2: game that was going so well and then to have
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  Speaker 2: those mistakes one after another. It was it was very frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, kind of excellent on Luis's part to only
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  Speaker 1: give up the two runs.
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  Speaker 2: And I was worried that he was going to get
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  Speaker 2: rattled by their mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so to keep it tied, to get it into
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  Speaker 1: extra innings and still have enough strength.
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  Speaker 4: And he looked good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah he did.
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  Speaker 4: It looked a lot better than what the results. And
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  Speaker 4: only one of those.
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  Speaker 1: Runs ended up being earned, and probably you could make
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  Speaker 1: an argument that neither of those runs should have been earned.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you had to give Corbyn Carroll a double
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  Speaker 1: on that play somehow, even though that should have either
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  Speaker 1: one of those infielders should have had that ball. Cole
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  Speaker 1: should have had it, JP should have had it, and
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  Speaker 1: then because they thought the other one had a better angle,
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  Speaker 1: none of them ended up with it, and so you
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  Speaker 1: end up having an uncomfortable couple of innings there. Other
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  Speaker 1: than that, Castillo was outstanding yesterday and has been outstanding
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  Speaker 1: in this piggyback, no doubt. His three best performances have
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  Speaker 1: come in this piggyback. But B is not for Luis.
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  Speaker 1: That didn't even make sense. B is for Bryce. So
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about Bryce Miller here because they're
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  Speaker 1: scrapping the piggyback for a couple turns. I'm not sure why,
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  Speaker 1: because it's worked really well the last two times through
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  Speaker 1: the rotation, and it wasn't a disaster in round number
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  Speaker 1: one of it. And so for them, even without a
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  Speaker 1: day even with a day off, I should say, this week,
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  Speaker 1: they're still going to go to a six man rotation.
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  Speaker 4: It seems odd timing.
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  Speaker 2: Well when you're going on the road too, don't. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't get it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's an you knew that it wasn't an
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  Speaker 1: ideal situation, and yet the last couple of outings have
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  Speaker 1: been rather ideal, and so for you to scrap that
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  Speaker 1: and go back to the sixth man.
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  Speaker 4: Now seems kind of odd, I thought so to me.
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  Speaker 1: But I think what's gonna end up emerging from all
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  Speaker 1: of this is that on the other side of the
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  Speaker 1: six man rotation, assuming everybody stays healthy and that nobody
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  Speaker 1: makes it obvious they shouldn't be in the starting rotation
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  Speaker 1: by getting lit up in two consecutive outings. I think
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  Speaker 1: that Bryce Miller is too good for the piggyback. I
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  Speaker 1: think Bryce Miller is one of our three best starters,
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  Speaker 1: maybe one of our two best, maybe our best. I
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  Speaker 1: said it, so, I think he's too good for this.
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  Speaker 1: He's not the guy that I would piggyback with. And
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  Speaker 1: maybe that's why they're doing this. Let's go six man
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  Speaker 1: rotation and two straight rotations, and then that gives us
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  Speaker 1: the excuse to kind of grade everybody evenly across the board.
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  Speaker 1: They all got two starts over the span of twelve games,
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  Speaker 1: and now we can make our more permanent plans going
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  Speaker 1: forward as to how we want to conduct this. Cause
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  Speaker 1: still looks like a really good really to me, that's
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  Speaker 1: what he looks like to me.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's been spectacular, Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 1: Bryce looks like a great starter. So I think that's
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  Speaker 1: what's eventually going to come out in the wash. But
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  Speaker 1: my guess is that they're going back to the six
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  Speaker 1: man rotation here for the next two weeks to kind
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  Speaker 1: of come up with a permanent solution as long as
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  Speaker 1: all six guys.
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  Speaker 3: Are available to them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm going to be really intrigued one. As
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  Speaker 2: we said, I don't understand why we're going to the
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  Speaker 2: six man but they're doing it. So now I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to be really intrigued how that goes. And then once
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  Speaker 2: that's done, from two turns through, what's next. It's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like as the world turns.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, my prediction is that Bryce will not be
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  Speaker 1: piggybacked again. Yeah, that is my prediction. I think Castillo
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  Speaker 1: very well could be. I think there are a couple
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  Speaker 1: of other candidates within the rotation that could be. I
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  Speaker 1: still think Emerson might be the guy, just through pure
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  Speaker 1: inexperience of having gone a full season. Yeah, as a
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  Speaker 1: you know, a guy in the rotation, maybe he's a candidate.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think Bryce comes out on the other
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  Speaker 1: side of this in the piggyback anymore. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be stretched out and allowed to.
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  Speaker 3: Start for the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Finally, see is for copycats and for everybody that cried, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's a disaster.
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  Speaker 2: What are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: We're an unserious organization.
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  Speaker 2: So many unserious comments.
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  Speaker 1: Well, teams are already copying the piggyback. They did it
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  Speaker 1: last night in the Cubs Cardinals game between Matt Librettore
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  Speaker 1: and Hunter Dobbins. You saw the Mets do it yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: That was more because of a blowout. But I think
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna see not only was it not a disaster,
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  Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a lot of Major league
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  Speaker 1: teams implement this. Now. They don't have the six guys
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: we have, right but for example, the Yankees, if Luis
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  Speaker 1: Heel gets healthy again, if he heals, if he'll Heels,
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  Speaker 1: then they didn't know what to do with him coming
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  Speaker 1: out of spring training, so they sent him down to
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: the miners, which didn't make him happy at all. And
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  Speaker 1: so maybe other teams are going to rip this page
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  Speaker 1: out of the book and implement it themselves. My guess
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  Speaker 1: is we're going to see other teams copy this going forward, and.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. And it is funny too, how
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, after a second sweep in a row,
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  Speaker 2: all of those unserious comments went away.
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  Speaker 4: It was weird and maybe they maybe they were unseious.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they were unsecious about how unseious.
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  Speaker 1: The Mariners are right, Yes, their accusations were unseious. Their
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  Speaker 1: unseious accusations are uncertious.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense what I'm saying, Or does it,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up next week, close out this Monday show with
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