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The Bolt Report | 30 April · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: This is the report.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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  Speaker 2: James macpherson filling in for Andrew. Here's what's coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Pressure continues to mount on Treasurer Jim Chalmers as Labor
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  Speaker 2: prepares to deliver this year's budget One Nation MP Barnaby
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  Speaker 2: Joyce will join me in the studio to discuss The
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  Speaker 2: Royal Commission into Anti Semitism released its interim report today,
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  Speaker 2: but the report fails to highlight one key issue. Australian
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  Speaker 2: Jewish Association CEO Robert Gregory will give his take on that,
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  Speaker 2: and General Jack Keane weighs in on the latest development
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  Speaker 2: surrounding the Uranian ceasefire negotiations. All of that coming up shortly,
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  Speaker 2: but first, the Royal Commission into Anti Semitism released its
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  Speaker 2: interim report today, one hundred and fifty nine pages. And
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  Speaker 2: how many times in one hundred and fifty nine pages
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  Speaker 2: do you think Islam was mentioned? I won't keep you
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  Speaker 2: in suspense eleven eleven times? Do you not find that
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  Speaker 2: strange Islamic extremism is clearly behind much of the anti
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  Speaker 2: semitism we've seen in this country over the past two years?
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  Speaker 2: As the report itself acknowledges anti Semitism ramped up after
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  Speaker 2: the October seven attack on Israel Bi the Islamist group
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  Speaker 2: Hamas some in this country celebrated the murder of Jews
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  Speaker 2: by Islamists on October seven.
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  Speaker 3: That's a day of courage.
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  Speaker 2: And Dismist preachers have regularly stirred up hatred against Jews
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  Speaker 2: in Australia, celebrating the murder of Jews and describing Jews
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  Speaker 2: variously as monsters, schemers and wicked men.
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  Speaker 1: Si Fatilia hood.
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  Speaker 4: Hiah and nahum shabta out on Lisa Manhaula, elug A, Lavina,
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  Speaker 4: nuziat de Lahmatu, minkolubi him ha ula Romolahu, Sia murta
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  Speaker 4: asi latun him.
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  Speaker 2: And then you've got Asio. They reported that the Islamic
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  Speaker 2: Republic of Iran had been behind attacks on Jews in
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  Speaker 2: this country.
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  Speaker 5: Iran has sought to disguise its involvement, but ASIO assesses
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  Speaker 5: it was behind the attacks on the Lewis Continental Kitchen
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  Speaker 5: in Sydney on October twenty last year and the Adas
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  Speaker 5: Israel Synagogue in Melbourne on December sixth last year. AGIO
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  Speaker 5: assesses it is likely Iran directed further attacks as well.
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  Speaker 2: Streamism is the only source of anti Semitism in Australia,
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  Speaker 2: not at all. Sadly, anti Semitism is found everywhere. But
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  Speaker 2: only a fool would downplay the role of Islamic extremism
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  Speaker 2: in the escalating anti semitism we've seen in this country.
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  Speaker 2: Anti Semitism hasn't been fueled by radical Catholics or BA
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  Speaker 2: high extremists or Salvation Army officers intent on j had
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  Speaker 2: So what were the eleven mentions of Islam in the
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  Speaker 2: Commissioner's introm report. Well, Islam was mentioned twice in relation
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  Speaker 2: to Islamophobia and twice when referencing news articles, so we
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  Speaker 2: can discount those four mentions as having nothing whatsoever to
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  Speaker 2: do with the subject at hand. The remaining seven mentions
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  Speaker 2: of Islam in the one hundred and fifty nine page report,
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  Speaker 2: there were four references to Islamic state, one reference to
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  Speaker 2: the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, one reference to man Monis
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  Speaker 2: who took hostages at the Link Cafe twelve years ago,
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  Speaker 2: and one reference to Islamic terrorism. One How you end
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  Speaker 2: up with one specific reference to Islamic terrorism in a
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty nine page report prompted by the
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  Speaker 2: worst alleged Islamist terror attack in the history of this country. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it's a mystery. I mean, Islamic State literally put out
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  Speaker 2: a newsletter praising the attack and calling it a model
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  Speaker 2: for Muslims around the world to follow. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: how you can seriously analyze the lead up to the
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  Speaker 2: Bondai massacre without seriously addressing the deadly serious issue of
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  Speaker 2: Islamic extremism. You know, there were twice as many references
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  Speaker 2: to Islamophobia in this intram report as they were to
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  Speaker 2: Islamic extremism and terrorism. Let that sink in. Anthony Albenezi
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  Speaker 2: accepted the report today with its fourteen recommendations, and incredibly,
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  Speaker 2: he attempted to take credit for having been dragged, kicking
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  Speaker 2: and screaming into calling for the Royal Commission. Five months
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  Speaker 2: on from the attack.
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  Speaker 5: Australia as Jewish community is still grieving, still hurting, still
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  Speaker 5: craving answers, and that's why my government set up the
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  Speaker 5: Royal Commission on Anti Semitism and Social Cohesion.
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  Speaker 2: That's not exactly true, is it. We all remember that
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  Speaker 2: in the aftermath of the Bondai terror attack, Anthony Albanese
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  Speaker 2: insisted there was no need for a Royal commission. When
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  Speaker 2: he eventually called for one, it wasn't in response to grieving,
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  Speaker 2: hurting Jews so much as in response to the embarrassment
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  Speaker 2: of being called out by an eighty eight year old
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  Speaker 2: swimmer who showed more spine than Anthony Alberanzi, Tony Burke
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  Speaker 2: and Penny Wong put together, and to you, Anthony Albanisi,
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  Speaker 2: Tony Burke, Penny Wong, come down off your high horse
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  Speaker 2: and stop trying to run for cover.
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  Speaker 3: If the Jews community is calling for a Royal commissioner,
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  Speaker 3: then do the right thing by this community and that
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  Speaker 3: has suffered enough.
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  Speaker 2: This is not about the stridus and weeks. Anthony Alberzi
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  Speaker 2: told journalists today that his government would accept all fourteen
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  Speaker 2: recommendations from Commission at Virginia Bell. Many of them related
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  Speaker 2: to better coordination and structuring of counter terrorism measures, which
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  Speaker 2: naturally begs the question counter terrorism measures against whom? How
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  Speaker 2: can you address the threat if you're not specific about it.
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  Speaker 2: Recommendation seven suggests that the PM himself, along with Tony
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  Speaker 2: Burke and Penny Wong, should participate in counter terrorism training.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's a good suggestion, but should not that ring
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  Speaker 2: alarm bells? I mean, how do we get to a
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  Speaker 2: situation in this country where the national cabinet needs regular
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  Speaker 2: training on how to deal with terrorist attacks anyone. It's
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  Speaker 2: all very well for the PM to say this government
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  Speaker 2: accepts the recommendations of the report, but why should we
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  Speaker 2: as a people have to accept that terror attacks on
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  Speaker 2: our home soil and our just part and parcel of
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  Speaker 2: life in Australia. I mean, you've got football, meat, pies,
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  Speaker 2: kangaroos and regular counter terrorism training for government ministers. That's
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  Speaker 2: not how the song is meant to go. But holding
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  Speaker 2: cars don't exist anymore and needed as the country we
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  Speaker 2: once so what happened? Would it not be prudent to
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  Speaker 2: state plainly where the source of this terror was coming
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  Speaker 2: from and to deal with it at its source? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if we knew. Recommendation one from the Interim Report is
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  Speaker 2: that all public Jewish events and festivals should be accompanied
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  Speaker 2: by a highly visible police presence. Again, it's a really
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  Speaker 2: good suggestion. Had there been a highly visible police presence
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  Speaker 2: at Bonbeai Beach on December fourteenth, fifteen now to seize
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  Speaker 2: Australians may well still be alive. But again it begs
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  Speaker 2: the question, why did Jews in this country need a
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  Speaker 2: public sorry, a police guard every time they gather in public?
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  Speaker 2: Are we happy for that to be just you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of those things. I mean, Italian Australians don't need
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  Speaker 2: police protection, Greek Australians don't need a security detail. So
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  Speaker 2: is it not worth asking specifically, where is the threat
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  Speaker 2: to kill Australian Jews actually coming from and maybe do
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  Speaker 2: something about that. At the very moment, the government is
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  Speaker 2: promising hand on heart to do whatever it takes to
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  Speaker 2: protect Australians from terrorism. They're washing their hands of any
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  Speaker 2: responsibility for allowing people who joined the most violent Islamic
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  Speaker 2: group in the world to come back he live. Make
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  Speaker 2: that make sense. The PM claimed today that in the
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  Speaker 2: wake of the Bondai attack, his government had acted to
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  Speaker 2: protect Jewish Australians, which, if you think about it, was
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  Speaker 2: actually a pretty damning admission.
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  Speaker 5: In the wake of the Bondai attack, my government took
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  Speaker 5: immediate action to bolster the resources of our security agencies,
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  Speaker 5: tackle anti semetism, crack down on hate preachers, and deliver
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  Speaker 5: tougher gun laws.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yes, the government did act in the wake of
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  Speaker 2: the Bondi terror attack, having ignored warnings for the better
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  Speaker 2: part of two years that Jews being killed was inevitable
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  Speaker 2: if anti Semitism in our universities, our mosques, our arts
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  Speaker 2: community and on clear display on our streets every weekend
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  Speaker 2: end wasn't strongly dealt with. That the government took immediate
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  Speaker 2: action in the wake of the bond By terror attack
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  Speaker 2: is no help to the fifteen Australians who lost their
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  Speaker 2: lives and cold comfort to the families. The Intram report
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  Speaker 2: raised some interesting questions. How is it that in recent
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  Speaker 2: years funding for national security has increased, but resources for
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  Speaker 2: detecting terrorist threats has significantly declined, even as the terror
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  Speaker 2: threat was raised to probable. How is it that the
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  Speaker 2: role of Joint counter Terrorism Coordinator, which was full time
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  Speaker 2: until twenty nineteen, had become a part time role in
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  Speaker 2: recent years. How is it that when New South Wales
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  Speaker 2: Police were asked to provide security for the entirety of
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  Speaker 2: the bond Bi Beach event, they sent only four officers
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  Speaker 2: and told them there was no need to stay for
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  Speaker 2: the duration. Those are incredibly important questions that deserve full
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  Speaker 2: and serious answers, But the elephant in the room. The
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  Speaker 2: question I'd like to see answered is how do we
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  Speaker 2: get to the point that any of this is necessary
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  Speaker 2: and we have the courage to do something about it,
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  Speaker 2: or is that just the way things are now? By
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  Speaker 2: the way, the release of the Interim Report into Anti
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  Speaker 2: Semitism and Social Cohesion comes just days before Clovermore's Sydney
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  Speaker 2: City Council makes its facilities available for a forum on
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  Speaker 2: why people should be allowed to call for a global
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  Speaker 2: uprising against Jews. The why it's okay to say globalizing
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  Speaker 2: into farther event is set to go ahead after a
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  Speaker 2: motion to debate its appropriateness was voted down in council
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  Speaker 2: last night. The Prime Minister, who stood in front of
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  Speaker 2: the media today holding the interim Report into Antisemitism, promising
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  Speaker 2: to do whatever must be done to protect our Jewish community,
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  Speaker 2: can't even get around to publicly calling out the reckless
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  Speaker 2: and dangerous behavior of the City of Sydney led by
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  Speaker 2: clover More. Just makes you shake your head. Or twelve
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  Speaker 2: days out from the federal budget, Jim Chalmers has given
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  Speaker 2: a few more hints about what we can expect. Reports
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  Speaker 2: yesterday that the Albanezi government is set to replace the
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  Speaker 2: fifty percent capital gains t discount with an index model
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  Speaker 2: and get rid of negative gearing. Prompted speculation about what
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  Speaker 2: that would mean for those with existing investment properties, and
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  Speaker 2: speaking to the Commonwealth Bank today, the Treasurer stopped short
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  Speaker 2: of guaranteeing there'd be exemptions, saying, quote, without getting into
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  Speaker 2: hypotheticals about policies, what you try to do is to
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  Speaker 2: make sure that we recognize the decisions people have taken
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  Speaker 2: in the past. Well, that wouldn't exactly fill you with
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  Speaker 2: confidence if you owned an investment property. Joining me now
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  Speaker 2: is Thursday regular on the Bolt Report, One Nation. MP Barnaby,
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  Speaker 2: Joyce Barnaby, Welcome to the program. Normally when we talk
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  Speaker 2: to you on the Bolt Report, it's through the screen
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  Speaker 2: and you're standing in the middle of a paddock somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: It's nice to have you in studio.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks, James. I'd like to apologize for the fidex
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  Speaker 6: treatment on my face.
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  Speaker 1: This is why.
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  Speaker 6: Whitefellas should wear hats, because we are not perfectly designed
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  Speaker 6: for the West Coast of Ireland, very badly designed for us.
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  Speaker 2: I got to say, Barney, I've got a fair bit
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  Speaker 2: of real estate there myself, so well, oh take note
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  Speaker 2: Labour's billing its upcoming tax changes as being about intergenerational fairness.
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  Speaker 2: Are you buying that? And is removing a chunk of
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  Speaker 2: the capital gains discount the best way to help younger people.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go through that in two parts, James.
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  Speaker 6: Number one is that people have capital assets because they
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  Speaker 6: didn't entertain themselves with shattles with things such as stereos, cars, boats,
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  Speaker 6: trips overseas. See what they did in their in a
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  Speaker 6: prudent fashion is they got their after tax income and
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  Speaker 6: invested in capital assets to put themselves in a financially
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  Speaker 6: stronger position for later time in life. So why we
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  Speaker 6: going to the prudent people who set themselves up so
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  Speaker 6: they don't have to rest on the taxpayer later on
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  Speaker 6: in life and saying the solution to our massive debt
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  Speaker 6: and our stupidity is to go to prudent people tax them.
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  Speaker 6: Remember what this is all about, James, Underneath is we
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  Speaker 6: have this massive debt and now they're panicking and they're saying,
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  Speaker 6: how do we pay back the debt? After all our gimmicks,
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  Speaker 6: after all our Oh, we've got to.
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  Speaker 2: Cost the living measure.
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  Speaker 6: We're going to give you a little bit of money
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  Speaker 6: we've got this, We're going to give you some more
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  Speaker 6: of it money. But in the end they get to
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  Speaker 6: a point I go, hell, we need money. Can we
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  Speaker 6: take that back out? Can we take that back out?
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  Speaker 6: Can we take that back out? Simple?
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  Speaker 2: What do you make of Jim Chalmers blaming the war
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  Speaker 2: in the Middle East for the last month's inflation spike?
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  Speaker 6: Well, you've got to find a war somewhere, don't you.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you know it was Ukraine last time. There's
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  Speaker 6: got to be something on. It's happening, and it's a wonder.
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  Speaker 6: It is the Bore War, it is the American War
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  Speaker 6: of Independence. I don't know, wars past president and emerging.
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  Speaker 6: That's the reason they've botched their budget.
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  Speaker 2: To be fair, barnaby, the war has no doubt effect
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, prices and that flows through to everything. So
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  Speaker 2: there's got to be an element of inflation that the
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  Speaker 2: treasure is. Quite right, it is a result of that.
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  Speaker 6: Fair enough, I'm being flip. But the thing is we
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  Speaker 6: weren't prepared for this war. We have been over We
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  Speaker 6: have gone through the folly of butterfly chasing on climate policy,
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  Speaker 6: which brought in the safeguard merchanism so that we shut
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  Speaker 6: down our oil refineries. We certainly can't open them up.
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  Speaker 6: We have blown up our power stations because you know,
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  Speaker 6: the great God Guya we're going to you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, they're going to change the sky.
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  Speaker 6: They're going to change the sky. And we made ourselves
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  Speaker 6: incredibly vulnerable so that when theveri keys of a war comes,
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  Speaker 6: we are completely with our throat to the wolf.
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk to you, we'll speak of throat
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  Speaker 2: to the wolf. Penny Wong is continuing the government's international
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  Speaker 2: fuel scavenger hunt, if you want to call it that.
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  Speaker 2: She shook hands with China's vice president in Beijing in
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  Speaker 2: the early hours of this morning and to her credit
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  Speaker 2: credit where credit's due. Shortly afterwards, Chinese war companies were
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  Speaker 2: told they could resume negotiating jet fuel exports to Australia
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  Speaker 2: after shipments were stalled because of the war in Iran.
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  Speaker 2: She got the result, Oh well, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: she got.
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  Speaker 6: She got humiliated a little bit per varicans, I meant vaguaries.
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  Speaker 6: So what's happened here is you can James actually get
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  Speaker 6: fuel at the moment, you can you get on the
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  Speaker 6: spot market. I've been working very closely with some serious
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  Speaker 6: players Chris money from San Diego Woodhams, which is a
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  Speaker 6: big independent freedom. We've got all these people together, but
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  Speaker 6: Export Finance Australia, for that legislation we got through Race
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  Speaker 6: Through has not been enacted. So we had fuel. I
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  Speaker 6: don't know there's fuel that six hundred dollars a ton
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  Speaker 6: that we could have got out of Indonesia. I know
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  Speaker 6: the market price now it's gone up to nine hundred
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  Speaker 6: dollars a ton on the I think it's on the
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  Speaker 6: plat it's up to thirteen hundred dollars a ton. And
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  Speaker 6: this is getting dearer because we don't move quick enough.
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  Speaker 6: That is actually happening right now. So Export Finance Australia
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  Speaker 6: have got to get their act together and turn around
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  Speaker 6: these deals quicker.
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  Speaker 2: What do you make of the labor government going to China,
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  Speaker 2: of all nations to shore up our jet fuel supplies.
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  Speaker 6: It just goes to show you how vulnerable we've made ourselves.
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  Speaker 6: How I mean, you've gone to China because there's China
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  Speaker 6: is the only place you can go. Remember, this is
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  Speaker 6: the same China that is pushing forward in the South
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  Speaker 6: China Sea. This is the same China that is hacking
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  Speaker 6: in your computers This is the same China which is
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  Speaker 6: pushing up against and harassing Philippine boats and taking over
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  Speaker 6: the Parascel islands and basically pushing their way around and
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  Speaker 6: with now the biggest navy by tonnage in the world.
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  Speaker 6: So what you're saying is we have to somehow stand
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  Speaker 6: up to the country which we are so reliant on
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  Speaker 6: because we've made ourselves so weak.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the one nation plane
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  Speaker 2: donated by Ginna einhard. Have you had a fly in
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  Speaker 2: it yet?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 6: I haven't. I haven't even seen it, and I want
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  Speaker 6: to make sure that when I do fly in it,
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  Speaker 6: I've got a good pilot. So look, okay, we have
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  Speaker 6: a choice. We can use the taxpayers plane and to
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  Speaker 6: the taxpayer, or use a private plane. So good luck
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  Speaker 6: to them. They've got a plane and it stops you
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  Speaker 6: having to pay for politicians flying around. Where's the problem
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  Speaker 6: with that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, a few people have got problems. Met Canavan tweeted
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  Speaker 2: last night. I want to get your reaction, He tweeted.
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  Speaker 2: The old saying is sell your shares when the CEO
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  Speaker 2: buys a private jet. What's he referring to there?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know what i'ld saying is that it's the
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  Speaker 6: methoosla or isn't a job in the book of Jove.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard that we I mean, first of all,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a jet, is it. Pauline Hanson didn't buy it.
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  Speaker 2: You's suggesting that somehow one nation's become a little bit
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  Speaker 2: too focused on themselves. Isn't it this jet to get
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  Speaker 2: to Rurle?
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's to get you to places all around Australia
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  Speaker 6: without having to bill it to the taxpayer, so that
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  Speaker 6: we can go to Farah, go to western Queensland, go
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  Speaker 6: to northern New South Wales, get up to the Cape,
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  Speaker 6: get out to the territory, get to all these places
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  Speaker 6: without saying to the taxpayer can he pay pay for it? Like,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if someone wants to. You know what
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  Speaker 6: I like is if people believe in you so much
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  Speaker 6: they want to help you, that's a good thing. Don't
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  Speaker 6: forget for one second the Labor Party has billionaires behind
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  Speaker 6: them too, right, and sometimes there's the same billionaire. But
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  Speaker 6: Andrew Farres prats. You know, the Nats used to have
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  Speaker 6: strong backers when I was with them, and so the Greens.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, if people don't believe in you. Doesn't that
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  Speaker 6: say something about you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very good, Barnaby Joyce, always a a light to chat.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for being in the studio tonight. Be nice to
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  Speaker 2: have you here. Sorry about the face, Your face looks fine.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I spoke at the top of the show about the
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  Speaker 2: glaring emission in the Bondie Raw Commission's interim report, namely
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  Speaker 2: the almost total absence of any reference to Islamic extremism.
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  Speaker 2: The report contained fourteen recommendations, all of them very sensible,
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  Speaker 2: but the report failed to address what everyone must know
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: is the elephant in the room is the most extremism. Well,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: members of the Jewish community of today welcome the report.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: One prominently, it says, the failure to seriously confront radical
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Islam undermines the entire report. I'm joined now by President
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: of the Australian Jewish Association, Robert Gregory. Robert, welcome to
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the program. Great to speak with you. Why does the
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: almost total emission of any reference to Islamic extremism we
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: can the Royal Commission report.
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: Well, you said it, it's the radical Islamic elfit in
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: the room that nobody seems to want to talk about,
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: and we can't have an inquiry into the worst radical
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: Islamic terrorist attack in Australian history without looking at the
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: cause of it the ideology behind it. So yes, the
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: report had some good recommendations, and yes it is just
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: an interim report, and we know there's going to be
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: a lot more coming out of this Royal Commission, but
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: if people are going to take it seriously, then it
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: can't tipso around this important topic.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: If the interim report failed to address ismistic extremism, are
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: you worried it won't be addressed at all during the
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: actual inquiry?
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: I am worried. There was a lot of change over
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: at the Royal Commission. Dennis Richardson drop out, so obviously
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: things are a bit tumultuous. The Prime Minister has given
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: a very short time frame both for the interim report
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: as well as for the main report, so it's going
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: to be hard to touch on all the issues. But
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: it's not a good sign that already with this early
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: and what is perhaps the most critical issue has been
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: left out.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I said at the top of the show that while
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: it's right and proper for the Jewish community be afforded
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: strong police protection for every public event, as is being suggested,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: it's outrageous. They should need it.
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I'm saying that as a non Jew, I can't imagine
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: how it feels as a member of the Jewish community
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: to be in that position.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: Well, it's really crazy. And for people who don't know
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: what the Jewish community has to spend on security and
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: how even you know, if you want to hold a
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: little small event a barmit's for a naming for your
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: child in the synagogue, you've got to higher armed guards
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: and the schools, the pre schools have armed guards. It's
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: something that it's it doesn't belong in Australia. We shouldn't
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: need this security and unfortunately we do. So what we
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: saw from the report is that New South Wales Police
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: BONDI allocated for police for this event which i was
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: supposed to have a thousand people, but they were told
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: that they don't need to hang around, They're just going
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: to show up so people feel safe. So I think
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: New South Wales Police has some questions to answer about
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: how they're allocating security. I mean, we know the risks,
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: we know the threats. It was considered a high high
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: risk event.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: So I'm interested when you say that the police were
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: there to make Jewish people feel safe, as if the
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: issue was really the way that Jews felt rather than
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: the actual threat itself.
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: Well, I was surprised to see that remark in the report,
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: which I believe came from instructions given from more senior
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: New South Wales police to dispatching the police to Bondi Beach.
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: So that was in the report. It was surprising to
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: see because it made it seem like the police are
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: there just to reassure the community that, you know, maybe
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: the communit is over reacting or getting a bit worried,
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: rather than there's a real risk. Police should be there
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: present the whole time. They should even perhaps be senior
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: police police, perhaps with rifles not just pistols. But I mean,
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: what happened happened, and we saw the police response and
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: the police that were there on the ground, no one
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: can blame them. I mean, there wasn't enough of them
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: and they weren't well enough equipped. So someone needs to
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: answer questions about what actually went wrong to cause that
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: to happen. And we saw in the report that the
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: recommendation is there's no urgent legislative changes needed, which was
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: another big surprise because something that's come up a lot
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: is that the Jewish community was not able to have
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: armed security there because it's a public place in Bonda Beach.
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: So this is legislation. It's something that could change to
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: allow for armed security guards, because you can have armed
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: guards if you're transporting cash, if you're protecting a premises,
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: but you're not allowed to have them at a public
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: event with over a thousand people.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: We've talked about what we didn't like in the report
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: or what we were concerned about in terms of things missing.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Tell me what you liked about the report.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: Well, I think this report. One thing about it that
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: was good is that it was focused. So to take this,
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: you know, the security failures of bond Ai out of
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: the whole, you know, two years of anti semitism and
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: just really hone in on it. And some of the recommendations. Yes,
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: there should be better cooperation between our different agencies. Governments
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: need to be updated more frequently about security risks, and
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: I think, I mean, it's rare to make the same
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: mistake again, So I think the security agencies will learn
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: from this. Well, hopefully they do, and hopefully this type
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: of event will be prevented. But we also need to
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: be aware that the terrorists, the bad guys, they adapt
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: as well, so we can prevent this type of event,
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: but we need to work on constantly updating and constantly
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: being one step ahead of them.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I want you to have to listen to New South
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Wales Jewish Board of Deputy CEO Michelle Goldman. She was
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: speaking the staff noon.
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: Bonde did not happen in a vacuum, and over the
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: last couple of years we have seen an alarming rise
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: in both the nature and frequency of anti Semitism, Jewish
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: Australians being ducks, harassed online, excluded and intimidated at universities,
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: in their own workplaces, and of.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Course Premier Chris Mins had this to say today.
• 24:27
  Speaker 10: The reality is for a state government is that its
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: highest responsibility is to protect its people and on December
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: the fourteenth last year, we didn't do that and we
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: take responsibility for that today. There was a rising tide
• 24:40
  Speaker 10: of hatred towards the Jewish community in the years before
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: that day in Bondai on December the fourteenth.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Taking into account to the Prime Minister's press conference today
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: those comments from Chris Mins, what you've seen of the
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: interim report, are you feeling more confident or less confident
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: today that anti Semitism will be dealt with properly well.
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: Bondo was a big wake up call we'd seen. Particularly
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: the federal government had spent the last over two years
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: ignoring it, in some cases inflaming it. But there are
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: actions refusing visas to visiting Jewish visitors and foreign policy
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: moves that just incided things. In Australia. We have seen
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: things quiet down a bit. The weekly protests in our
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: cities are not there, but we continue to see incidents.
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: We have this event in Sydney, a globalized the Intifada
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: event being hosted by the City of Sydney. So many
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: are calling for the state government and the federal government
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: to speak out more strongly if the Mayor clever More
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: won't do something about it. Speaking as a Jewish Australian,
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: as someone the first arrest actually on Operation Avelite was
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: for someone making threats against myself and doctor David of
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: the Australian Jewish Association. The person was convicted and sentenced.
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: So I've experienced it, but and this is what I
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: do for my job. But everyday Jewish people have all
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: experienced this anti semitism on universities, on the streets online
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: in all different forums. So we're hoping for a change.
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: We really need it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: It's been a very, very difficult over two years. It
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: started with October seven and the Bond attack didn't end it.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: It's still ongoing. But we're just hoping that all of
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: Australia can come together and because this threat against one
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: group is a thread against all Australian society.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Robert Gregory, I really appreciate your time tonight. Thanks so
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: much for joining me. All Right, we're going to go
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: to a break when we come back. As Donald Trump
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: underestimated the Iranians, I'll put that question to one of
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: the men who's advising the US president on the Iran War,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: former US Army Vice Chief of Staff General Jack Keane.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: He's coming up next. Global oil prices have reached a
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: record wartime high after the White House confirmed President Trump
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: had discussed continuing the US blockade on Iran for months
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: if needed. Meanwhile, Iran has said it won't reopen the
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Straight of for moves while the US blockade remains in place.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: All of this comes after weeks of failed negotiations between
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the US and Iran. Donald Trump posted on truth Social
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: overnight that Tehran better quote gets smart. Soon after, the
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: regime offered up a proposal to end the war, but
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: only if it gets to keep its nuclear stockpile, which,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: let's face it is never going to fly. Joining me
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: now is someone who's been advising Trump on this war.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Former US Army Vice Chief of Staff General Jack Keane. General,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: thanks for joining me. Iran has been pretending it's still
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: going strong despite the blockade. Surely its economy can't tolerate
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: this squeeze forever? How long until the Uranian regime cracks?
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: When we look at Iran through our values and through
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: our sense of logic and reason, we often come up
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: with the wrong answer. I think where the regime is
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: twofold one. They shut down the straights who moves to
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: achieve a single of purpose, and that is to stop
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: the war. And they achieved that, and as a result
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: of that, the United States and Ron went into negotiations.
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: Then their second objective was not to cut a deal,
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: and that's why we have no deal after all these weeks.
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: The second objective was the delay the negotiations as much
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: as possible and play for time. They believe that the
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: political economic pressure on President Trump is what stopped the
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: war to go to a ceasefire, and they believe that
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: will increase. If time increases, the pressure will mount so
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: much so that President Trump would do one or two things,
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: make major concessions to the regime, or number two, just
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: pull away and declare victory. I think where the regime
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: is has attained to the blockade and the economic suffering
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: is they fully intend to ride this out despite the
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: suffering of their people. He will take action here, and
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: that would like to be become in a foreseeable future,
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: more in the near term than in the long term.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: When you say Trump will take action in the foreseeable term,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: he said earlier today the blockade is somewhat more effective
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: than the bombing. This choking like a stuffed pig, and
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: it's going to get worse for them. Is that an
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: admission from Trump that military attacks on Iran have reached
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the limits of what can be achieved, or, as you say,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: is there more he can do militarily to try to
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: convince the Iranians to give up.
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: When we stopped and went to a cease fire, we
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: had two weeks left to do. About twenty five percent
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: of the objectives were yet to be achieved, so that,
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: in my mind is unfinished and something we should indeed finish.
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: Another thing that needs to be done is we need
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: to clear and secure the straits of a Moon. And
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: those two things are likely outcomes, which one comes first.
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: Those are the decisions the President will have to make.
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: And he also was holding another card, and that is
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: while we're blocking all of our rhymes cargo and oil
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: and just merchant shipping coming out of the Golf for sure,
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: carl g Island, which represents ninety percent of their oil
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: and gas distribution, that distribution center could be destroyed, certainly
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: not immediately, but very possible, and that would immediately cause
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: the beginning of an economic collapse of the regime. So
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: these are the cards the President is holding. I guarantee
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: you he's going to play at least some of that.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: The President said the conflict would be over within six weeks.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: That was his initial estimate. We're well passed that down
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: with no end in sight. Meanwhile, the Pentagon's chief financial officer,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Jules Hurst, says the wars cost so far twenty five
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: billion dollars US to the American public. Did the Pentagon
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: underestimate Iran?
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: I don't think so I think what happened is the
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: enemy has a vote, and they we knew they were
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: going to close the straits of a moves that we
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: even I mean, I was dealing with that issue when
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: I was a division commander and a core commander a
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: few decades ago. That's how long we've dealt with Iran
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: and closing the straits of moves. How and what would
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: we do in terms of military action to get that open?
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: But the President looked at that as an opportunity to
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: negotiate with the Iranians and see, based on the damage
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: that had been done up to that point, to see
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: if there was something there that was real. It turned
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: out not to be real, but he felt obligated to
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: give it a try. That delayed the fulfillment of military
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: up objectives that were attempting to achieve. We're going to
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: get there one way or the other, either complete it
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: with military operations or get a deal that's acceptable that
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: in a sense, it's something of a surrender without using
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: the words surrender, they meet our meet on max almost
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: terms and give into all of that. The regime would
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: still stay in place, but likely it would be inedible
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: inevitable that they would collapse at.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Some time, General King, before I let you go, I
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: wanted to get your analysis on where Australia sits with
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: the US at the moment. We've just seen King Charles
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: deliver what was a masterclass in diplomacy helping smooth over
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: US UK relations. But in stark contrast, here in Australia,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: instead of helping our closest ally the US secure oil
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: shipments through the Strait of Hamuz, the Australian government decided
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: to send a delegation to China to beg them for fuel,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: as well as a few other neighboring nations. Would President
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Trump have noticed that we've turned to one of America's
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: greatest adversaries in our time of need. And where does
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: all that leave Australia's relationship with the US. Given the
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: President's criticism of Australia in recent weeks, I.
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: Want to comes to the relationship right now with Australia.
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: The military mill relationship, military to military relationship is as
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: good as it could be. I just spoke to Admiral
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: Papao a few days years ago. I asked them exactly
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: close to the questions you're asking me. You know, how
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: are we doing with Australia from a military perspective, he said,
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: could be better, and that deals with the basing we're
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: doing there, the troops that are deployed there, the training
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: we're able to do there, the exercises we run with
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: Australians throughout the region, and of course olcucas the fact
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: that the most significant nuclear deal the United States has
• 33:21
  Speaker 8: been involved in outside of the United States since we've
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: had nuclear powered submarines has taken place with the Australians.
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: The political relationship is not what it should be, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: that I think is largely to do with the political
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: leadership in Australia moving towards China at a time when
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: the United States has asked for allies and partners to
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: assist it in a war that many of our allies
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: and partners benefit with from because they also are dependent
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: on Persian golf hall. And to go further than that
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: is Iran has been a predator for forty seven years,
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: utilizing the Middle East with the clear objectives. Every single
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: year they restate the objectives and that is to dominate
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: and control the Middle East, to include the distribution of
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: oil through the Persian Gulf, destroy the state of Israel
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: and drive the United States out of the region as
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: a major influencer. Those are their objectives and they are
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: about trying to achieve those objectives, as you can see
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: when they started to war on October seventh and gave
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: a master green light to attack, and the conflict we've
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: been involved in ever since to finally finally stopped as
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: predator from continuing to destabilize the Middle East and one
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: of the international community's most important distribution points for oil
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: and gas, and that helps to sustain a world economy,
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: and we believe in the United States, our allies and
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: partners have a stake in that, and when we asked
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: for a little bit of assistance, some of it was
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: fairly frustrated to deal with and to think that at
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: a time like this, we're going out to China when
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: the United States is sanctioning China, you know, from buying
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: oil from the Uranians and going into the petro chemical
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: companies to do that. And this in the United States
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: we refer to this as secondary sanctions. So we're not
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: ignoring the fact that China has been financing Iran for
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: years and years. They purchased ninety percent of Iranian oil.
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: I say again, ninety percent of iran and oil and
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: based on that return in investment that the Uranians are
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: making with the Chinese, all this conflict with the proxies
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: to tens of thousands which are now hundreds of thousands
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: of missile all being financed by China, we take exception
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: to that.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: General, Jack King, always a delight to speak with you.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining me.
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, great talking to James. Thank you well.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Coming up after the break has led all lost confidence
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: climate change is going to destroy the world. Plus, which
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: country do you think people born in now make up
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: the majority of migrants in Australia. I'll let you know
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: after the break failed. US vice presidential candidate el Gore
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: has been warning for years that global warming was going
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: to destroy the Earth. While none of his predictions from
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: the Maldives disappearing under rising seas to the extinction of
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: polar bears have come true. He's done very well from
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: climate change with films, books, speaking to US, and investments
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: in renewable energy ventures. But el Gore doesn't seem as
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: confident in the climate change gig as he used to be.
• 36:40
  Speaker 11: He was.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: El Gore last year insisting that global warming was making
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: the Earth unlivable.
• 36:45
  Speaker 11: The hottest ten years have been the last ten years,
• 36:48
  Speaker 11: and the combination of heat and humidity is making more
• 36:52
  Speaker 11: of the earth physiologically unlivable for human beings.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: But just this week el Gore was insisting with face
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: an ice age within the next ten to twenty five years.
• 37:04
  Speaker 11: There's a whole big article summarizing the recent dire warnings
• 37:09
  Speaker 11: of the scientists who found yet more a confirmatory information
• 37:13
  Speaker 11: that this is a very real threat within the next
• 37:16
  Speaker 11: twenty five year.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: If that happens in the Gulfstream ceases to exist as
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: we know it, we're in an ice age in like
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: ten years.
• 37:25
  Speaker 11: No, no, no, it would take long, but it would
• 37:27
  Speaker 11: be bad.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Joining me now is Founder and Managing Director of the
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: pr Council, Christy McSweeney and One Nation Chief of Staff
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: James Ashby. Good evening to you both. James. I'll start
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: with you. You saw el Gore there is that what
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: we mean by having a ball each way?
• 37:44
  Speaker 12: Well, I think they call them grifters today, but you
• 37:47
  Speaker 12: know for a glock that when he left office was
• 37:50
  Speaker 12: worth two million dollars worth today somewhere around two hundred
• 37:55
  Speaker 12: to three hundred million dollars. How has he made that, Well,
• 37:58
  Speaker 12: he's made it off this grifting of scaring the Bejesus
• 38:01
  Speaker 12: out of Australians and people globally, because let's not forget
• 38:04
  Speaker 12: this net zero whole scam is worth somewhere between three
• 38:09
  Speaker 12: and a half trillion to four trillion dollars a year,
• 38:12
  Speaker 12: and he's been clipping the ticket off the back of
• 38:14
  Speaker 12: scaring people. In fact, he's charging about two hundred thousand
• 38:17
  Speaker 12: dollars per conversation he has, by the way, every time
• 38:21
  Speaker 12: he goes and does one of those on stage conferences
• 38:24
  Speaker 12: somewhere across the globe, not only are they picking up
• 38:26
  Speaker 12: his first class tickets on board one of those gas
• 38:29
  Speaker 12: guzzling jets, he's then saying to them, oh, by the way,
• 38:32
  Speaker 12: you've got to pay me two hundred grand for it.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: So he's made a lot of money off this. Is
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: this the next phase of grifting?
• 38:38
  Speaker 12: Perhaps it is because you know the worry that people
• 38:41
  Speaker 12: will find if you live in those very southern areas
• 38:45
  Speaker 12: of Tasmania or the northern areas of Canada. Of course
• 38:49
  Speaker 12: he'll be saying things are only getting colder. I don't
• 38:51
  Speaker 12: know how much colder you can get in those places,
• 38:53
  Speaker 12: But it's all a lie, it's all a scam, and
• 38:56
  Speaker 12: now he's just obviously trying to clip the ticket on
• 39:00
  Speaker 12: the next phase.
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  Speaker 2: Christy, people seek you out for advice on how to
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: get their messaging right. What advice would you give to
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: el Gore?
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  Speaker 13: Well, look, James, what else is he going to say
• 39:13
  Speaker 13: at the World Economic Forum in Davos, which indeed is
• 39:17
  Speaker 13: the mecca of the world's sustainability and environmental social diversity,
• 39:23
  Speaker 13: equity inclusion. You know, absolute truth there at Davos. Everybody
• 39:31
  Speaker 13: in that room was eagerly lapping up what he was
• 39:34
  Speaker 13: saying there in that first clip, because you know, corporate
• 39:37
  Speaker 13: America and corporate Australia depends on that, and perhaps more
• 39:42
  Speaker 13: so even now we've seen Rio Tinto up in Queensland
• 39:47
  Speaker 13: be the recipient of tens of millions of taxpayer dollars
• 39:51
  Speaker 13: to implement green hydrogen when they have a two hundred
• 39:54
  Speaker 13: and forty billion dollar market cap. Now they don't need
• 39:57
  Speaker 13: tens of millions of taxpayer subsidies to do green hydrogen
• 40:01
  Speaker 13: up in Queensland. But of course our government wants to
• 40:04
  Speaker 13: point that the fact that one of Australia's biggest companies
• 40:07
  Speaker 13: is in barking on it. And the only way that
• 40:10
  Speaker 13: they will do it if they are funded by the
• 40:12
  Speaker 13: Australian taxpayer to do so, not for commercial value. So
• 40:15
  Speaker 13: there is a corporate industry and a corporate infrastructure around
• 40:19
  Speaker 13: this which is built by governments, and we have to
• 40:23
  Speaker 13: take a look at is a lot of this money
• 40:25
  Speaker 13: going towards these subsidies really the best use of taxpayer money.
• 40:29
  Speaker 13: Some of it may well be, but I don't think
• 40:32
  Speaker 13: giving tens of millions of dollars to Reo Tinto is.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, taxpayers aren't doing too well, but there's a few
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: people who are doing very nicely out of the whole thing.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: All right, I want to talk to you guys about
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: population data. There were some interesting stats published today showing
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: that people born in India have now displaced people born
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: in England as our number one source of migrants. While
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: the number of Brits moving to Australia increased by five
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: percent over the past twenty years, number of people born
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: in India increased by five hundred and fifty two percent.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Just under a million people in our country Indian born.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: According to the ABS data. The number of Chinese born
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Australians has increased two hundred and twenty one percent, the
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: number of Syrian born Australians three hundred and seventy percent.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: The number of Afghanistan born Australians has increased four hundred
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: and seventeen percent over that period. The historic milestone was
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: revealed in data released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: and they found thirty two percent of Australians are now
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: born abroad. That's up from twenty four point two percent
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: twenty years ago. The number of migrants in Australia is
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: surged by four point eight percent every year since twenty
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: twenty two. On and on it goes. All of this
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: raises some interesting questions, James, migration has always been a
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: great strength of Australias. Is it still.
• 41:52
  Speaker 12: Well, it's no longer because I think it's been taken
• 41:55
  Speaker 12: for granted and as we know, the floodgates have been open.
• 41:58
  Speaker 12: That's what one nation has been trying to put a
• 42:00
  Speaker 12: whole too for a long time. We're not suggesting close
• 42:02
  Speaker 12: the gates entirely. We're saying reduce the number to around
• 42:05
  Speaker 12: one hundred and thirty thousand skilled migrants, real skills, by
• 42:09
  Speaker 12: the way, not these ones that come in as Nile
• 42:11
  Speaker 12: technicians and Uber drivers. The challenge that we've got and
• 42:14
  Speaker 12: who can blame people from India wanting to come here?
• 42:17
  Speaker 12: It is I believe, despite not having been to India,
• 42:20
  Speaker 12: I've seen plenty of YouTube clips to tell me that
• 42:23
  Speaker 12: we have a better country than India. But look, the
• 42:26
  Speaker 12: reality is the Indian population are aspirational, They're not afraid
• 42:30
  Speaker 12: of work. They come here often through the education system,
• 42:34
  Speaker 12: and they stay on. There are plenty of people in
• 42:38
  Speaker 12: regional areas now that are screaming for workers, and often
• 42:42
  Speaker 12: the only people prepared to go out there are Indians.
• 42:45
  Speaker 12: I know in a small town like Baralaba, there was
• 42:48
  Speaker 12: a small convenience stool that just sat on the market
• 42:51
  Speaker 12: for a very long time.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: No one wanted to buy it. Who bought it in
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the end an Indian family.
• 42:56
  Speaker 12: So to a degree we've got to thank the Indians
• 42:59
  Speaker 12: that are But do I want Australia to turn.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Into little India? Nope? I want it to remain Australian
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: by all means.
• 43:06
  Speaker 12: We want to welcome people from all countries that are
• 43:09
  Speaker 12: prepared to work in this country. But at the end
• 43:12
  Speaker 12: of the day, do we want to see it transform no,
• 43:15
  Speaker 12: we've got to reduce the number of people coming in Christy.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: We've got to go to a break bit just very quickly.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: It's wonderful. I agree with James. We've got so many
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: people wanting to come here and that we can offer
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: so many people a wonderful place to live. But what
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: are a few of the things we need to do
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: to ensure diversity is our strength rather than our downfall.
• 43:33
  Speaker 13: Well, first of all, I think Australians will be looking
• 43:35
  Speaker 13: at that data released today about the increase of migration
• 43:39
  Speaker 13: since the year two thousand and certainly since COVID and
• 43:43
  Speaker 13: the huge numbers that we're seeing, which is beyond the
• 43:46
  Speaker 13: targets that Australia actually said. Yes, we're a small country,
• 43:49
  Speaker 13: we require skilled migration absolutely, and James is correct. The
• 43:54
  Speaker 13: National Party for a long time and many people in
• 43:56
  Speaker 13: the National Parties still have the policy that there is
• 44:00
  Speaker 13: a mix and a changing of the immigration system needed
• 44:04
  Speaker 13: so people could go to regional Australia. And I don't
• 44:07
  Speaker 13: think it's an unfair premise to factor that in when
• 44:11
  Speaker 13: we do change the immigration criteria around some of these
• 44:15
  Speaker 13: decentralization out of our cities which are growning under the
• 44:19
  Speaker 13: weight of the infrastructure that we need here to support
• 44:23
  Speaker 13: those migration numbers, particularly in Sydney and Melbourne.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good point. All right, James Christy, appreciate you coming
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: on the program tonight. Have a great weekend. All right.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Up next, London Jews reeling after two men were stabbed
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: in what police are calling a terrorist incident. I'll get
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: the latest from Patrick Christie's in London.
• 44:39
  Speaker 10: Next.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: The Jewish community in the UK have been left reeling
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: after two Jewish men were stabbed in North London, resulting
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: in a terrorist incident being declared. The Metropolitan Police have
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: confirmed the Golden Green terror suspect as a British national
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: born in Somalia. His CCTV vision of one of the attacks,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I should warn you the footage is pretty disturbing. So
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: you can see there that he goes up and stabs
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: the man in the throat and here's the moment police
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: confronted the attacker. Joining me now live from London's g
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: B News host Patrick Christie's, Patrick tell us more about
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: what happened and what's been the public reaction.
• 45:30
  Speaker 14: Yeah, well, look, Australians and Brits have a huge amount
• 45:32
  Speaker 14: in common, but unfortunately one of those things now is
• 45:35
  Speaker 14: a rise in violent anti Semitism. As you've said, as
• 45:38
  Speaker 14: Somali born man with a history of extreme violence and
• 45:41
  Speaker 14: poor mental health carried out that attack yesterday in Golder's Green,
• 45:46
  Speaker 14: which for a bit of contacts is a very very
• 45:48
  Speaker 14: Jewish area in London. He tried to attack somebody else
• 45:52
  Speaker 14: earlier in the day as well, and he fled the scene.
• 45:56
  Speaker 14: The police didn't catch him, and then he popped up
• 45:57
  Speaker 14: in Golder's Green and did what he did. Now is
• 46:00
  Speaker 14: it's the same area where ambulances were set on fire
• 46:03
  Speaker 14: outside a synagogue a few weeks ago, shop windows were
• 46:06
  Speaker 14: smashed and asylum seeker carrying a knife went into a supermarket,
• 46:10
  Speaker 14: a Kosher supermarket.
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: That was last year.
• 46:13
  Speaker 14: That bloke did not get a prison sentence. In fact,
• 46:16
  Speaker 14: he got a suspended sentence, which shows you how seriously
• 46:19
  Speaker 14: we've been taking these kind of incidents in that Jewish area.
• 46:23
  Speaker 14: I mean, the reaction from our politicians has been all
• 46:25
  Speaker 14: of the usual bingo card of guff right, diversity is
• 46:28
  Speaker 14: our greatest strength. Were welcoming intolerance, all of this stuff,
• 46:31
  Speaker 14: which is ridiculous.
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: Really.
• 46:33
  Speaker 14: The reaction though now is very interesting about the police.
• 46:36
  Speaker 14: You played a little clip there. So the police saw
• 46:39
  Speaker 14: this guy walking towards them with a knife. They thought
• 46:41
  Speaker 14: he had a bomb on him as well, because he
• 46:42
  Speaker 14: had a puffer jacket on him, and to get him subdued,
• 46:46
  Speaker 14: they kicked him in the head a couple of times.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Now a bit of context here.
• 46:50
  Speaker 14: I think in most of the countries they probably would
• 46:51
  Speaker 14: have just shot him, but our police aren't armed a
• 46:54
  Speaker 14: standard here, so they kicked him in the head a
• 46:56
  Speaker 14: couple of times, subdued him, arrested him. He's fine, right,
• 46:59
  Speaker 14: he's been hospital is fine, he's now in police custody.
• 47:02
  Speaker 14: But now there are genuinely calls to prosecute the police
• 47:07
  Speaker 14: as opposed to trying to prosecute the bloke who literally
• 47:10
  Speaker 14: stabbed two Jewish men at random in an anti Semitic attack,
• 47:15
  Speaker 14: and one of them, by the way, while they're both
• 47:17
  Speaker 14: incredibly lucky to be alive, but especially one of them,
• 47:19
  Speaker 14: the younger man, who was in his thirties, the knife
• 47:22
  Speaker 14: was apparently just centimeters away from his heart, so centimeters
• 47:27
  Speaker 14: to one side that and he would no longer be
• 47:30
  Speaker 14: with us. The other man was seventy six years old,
• 47:33
  Speaker 14: was standing at a bus stop going about his business.
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: And that happened.
• 47:38
  Speaker 14: And look, it's not just Jews who are sick of
• 47:40
  Speaker 14: this kind of behavior in Britain. It just seems to
• 47:42
  Speaker 14: be happening all the time.
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: Now.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: I am shocked to hear that, Patrick, because I saw
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: the vision of the UK coppers kicking the guy in
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the head. But I did note when they were doing that,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: he appeared to still have the knife in his hand,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: so it wasn't as if the threat had been completely neutralized.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: But even if it had, the fact he's just stabbed
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: a couple of people for the crime of being Jewish.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, a kick in the head is about the
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: least that the police could have done to him. To
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: think that people are upset about that. Gee, what a miserable,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: miserable place. How We've only got a minute and a
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: bit left, But I just wanted to get your reflections
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: on King Charles's visit to the US and his I thought,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: magnificent speeches in Congress and in that dinner in the
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: White House. What did you think and how has his
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: performance been received in the UK?
• 48:31
  Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, pretty well really, I mean he managed to
• 48:33
  Speaker 14: unite both sides of the House there in Congress, which
• 48:36
  Speaker 14: President Trump himself said was a tough ass to do,
• 48:39
  Speaker 14: and it's been good for Britain because our special relationship
• 48:41
  Speaker 14: has not been particularly special recently. So I think generally speaking,
• 48:45
  Speaker 14: that's been good. Nice to remind the Americans of a
• 48:46
  Speaker 14: little bit of history as well every now and again, saying,
• 48:49
  Speaker 14: you know, two undred and fifty years or as we
• 48:50
  Speaker 14: call it, just the other day, also reminding the Americans
• 48:54
  Speaker 14: that they might be speaking French if it wasn't for
• 48:56
  Speaker 14: us wheeling out all the usual tropes there.
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: So that was good fun.
• 48:59
  Speaker 14: He did copy a little bit from the New York
• 49:01
  Speaker 14: mayn I'm Danny saying we need to give back the
• 49:02
  Speaker 14: coey Now diamond. But of course mum Danny was born
• 49:05
  Speaker 14: in u Gander, so maybe we can give the Indians
• 49:08
  Speaker 14: the coey Now diamond and we can take back you
• 49:10
  Speaker 14: Gander for the British.
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: See how he likes that.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I noticed as well that then Donald Trump was very
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: quick to say if King Charles had been making a
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: decision on the Iranian war, he would have supported us.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how that would have gone down with
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Sekires Starmer Patrick Christie's love talking to you. Have a
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: great weekend, all right, that's it from me tonight, but
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: stick around. Coming up in just a moment is Sharry Marxon,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: and you will not want to miss Sharry Marxon tonight.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: She addresses that intram anti Semitism report. She's up now.