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- Slim Pushins: Hey everybody, welcome back to the pushing the cushion podcast. This is shop beers, volume two. As always, my cohost, the only guy that spends more money on hair products than he does on his mortgage, Corby Sherb. Look at that hair. Corby Scherb: Hey everyone, how are you all? Jim Gardner: Who are you? Slim Pushins: Who is who? Jim Gardner: You forgot to introduce yourself. Slim Pushins: everybody knows Slim. Slim push-ins and Jim on the dials back there looking all contentious with his arms crossed. Corby Scherb: Always the one and only Mr. Jim Gardner. Slim Pushins: All right, let's just get into this. Huh? Let's just let's just get into this. First of all, Jim Gardner: was worried what I got into again. Go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry. Slim Pushins: Let's just get right to the nuts and bolts. I try to make some sort of an outline for every episode Something just a general idea so that we don't we already look like bumbling idiots but so that we don't completely look like idiots and I think those in the biz call it a run sheet. So we to make us feel better. We call it a run sheet I sent it to Jim. Corby never gets it. First of all, he doesn't know how to work a computer very well, but also he doesn't abide by it. He doesn't run by it. So Corby just likes to send it. Just let go and let God. Am I right? Corby Scherb: I feel better that way. I... Yeah. Yeah. Just whatever you say. Go to the top or the bottom. Jim Gardner: like spring car setups. Slim Pushins: It's just the dynamic that was set in place many years ago. Yeah, so. Jim Gardner: Whatever. Just put thousands and quarters in it and we'll send it. Okay. Corby Scherb: We tried to buck 50 one night and I still sent it as hard as I could. Jim Gardner: That's right. Slim Pushins: So I spent minutes upon minutes putting this run sheet together. People from work listen to this. Anyway, ⁓ so I send it to Jim and immediately I asked, Corby and I start getting texts about what kind of a psycho I am. Why, what's wrong with my run sheets? Jim Gardner: On the clock at work. What's what kind of serial killer uses Excel to type out a document? I use Excel multiple times daily. I'm, I'm the most pro Excel guy on the face of the earth, but you are a serial killer. This is the most ridiculous way to build a document I've ever seen in my life. Slim Pushins: What? I don't, but is the biggest issue that you have with this that I don't have, there's not a number one on this entire sheet? is that, are you of the school of thought that Excel is only for formulas? Jim Gardner: No, you can use it. It's for, no, it's fine. It's for data and managing simple pieces of information, not for... Slim Pushins: This is the simplest piece of information. Everything's probably not even spelled right. Jim Gardner: Move on. Let's move on. I'll just post a picture of it and it'll... Slim Pushins: You can post a... and let... let the world decide. Jim Gardner: Yeah, right. Corby Scherb: I think maybe it's this, Jim, but we gotta remember how much older Curvo is than us. Like, that was like the cutting edge of computer. Slim Pushins: Okay, okay, okay. As Jim says, let's move on. What did do this weekend? I know what you two didn't do this weekend. I know exactly what you two didn't do this. You didn't support the sport that brought us to making a Corby Scherb: It's a hike over there though. It's a hike. Jim Gardner: I did post get your ass to Abilene and then I stayed my ass in Keller all weekend. We had some family in town, so I couldn't go, but. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Abilene was a good time. ⁓ I was thrown on a microphone after driver intros that is I cannot tell y'all. The podcast is out of my comfort zone throwing a mic in front of me. Jim Gardner: Well, ⁓ Bullshit you were born to sit down Have a beer and talk nonsense for 30 minutes every time I call you or we talk on the phone And I walk in and I'm like around my wife. She's like, oh was that Kerbo on the phone? I was like, yeah, she goes. What'd you talk about? I don't know You were on the phone for 30 minutes. What did you guys talk about? I don't know. He's like a he's Slim Pushins: out of nothing. Nothing. Nothing of substance. Corby Scherb: Absolutely nothing. Here, let's do it. He's such a good talker. Here you go. Here you go. Announce this heat race. How about that? Well, let's just see how quick you can be. Slim Pushins: I'm not announcing a heat race. For anybody listening, we've all three got the high limit race on ⁓ from. Corby Scherb: Rico's L, Logan Seedy, Chase Randall. Jim Gardner: Come on, got Rico, Seve, you know all these guys. Slim Pushins: from Eagle. Chase Randall, Chase Randall is the Waco kid. I have a soft spot. I was born in Waco, lived in Waco. Corby Scherb: Yeah! Jason Martin built shocks for us for a long time. Jim Gardner: So I think the people want to hear slim push-ins call a heat race. We can violate some copyright. Let's just do it. Slim Pushins: the people want. Hey look, Tyler, I'm not quick. Corby Scherb: Yeah, let's just see, let's just hear it. Let's just see how quick you can be. Slim Pushins: Tyler Drewky's in this. know we raised a bunch with him at Eagle. Corby Scherb: Up there in Eagle at Nationals. they go, they're going green. Let's see what you got. Jim Gardner: Hey, is it two time nationals champion? Come on. Slim Pushins: I've got it on two TVs. Corby Scherb: Go. Jim Gardner: Go on the first one. Slim Pushins: The first one's on flow. I'm 30 seconds ahead of y'all and Rico's Rico's already half a lap ahead. Corby Scherb: Well, we just missed the start. Don't worry, you're gonna bounce it through the hole. Slim Pushins: Who do y'all have on this? Logan Seavey started on the pole and Rico started next to him. Tanner Holmes. Tanner Holmes is I think in fourth right now behind Chase Randall. How about him? Tanner Holmes coming onto the scene, getting a ⁓ great ride this year and proving himself. Jim Gardner: Rico just ripped the top on Sobi. He was good in that shark car when he was filling in a couple of years ago. Slim Pushins: Yeah, he was. Corby Scherb: I just fell asleep. Jim Gardner: ⁓ it is rough and rowdy up there, man. Corby Scherb: Turbine always kind of they they took the dip out for a little while and ⁓ it is wild how fast it is if you can drive through it ⁓ right or the plant was was Jim Gardner: What cause is it? Is it because that's the I've never been up there, which is just a crime against humanity, but Corby Scherb: There's a creek runoff. Slim Pushins: Yeah, there's, well, from, if you're standing on the fence, the bottom, like the bottom tractor tire is probably 20 foot below you. Would you say that's true, Corby? Jim Gardner: ⁓ yeah. Corby Scherb: Well, think that a lot of people TV never does a justice to any racetrack. The biggest thing about Eagle is one, the banking is massive there. It truly is. ⁓ And the top is a very long ways around there. ⁓ Look at Rico, just watch him just roll through the hole like it wasn't even there. Doesn't even move his hands. Look at how quiet his hands are. I know. Jim Gardner: He's due for a big win. he's, he's had a run like fifth or six last week, but he's been bad for like three weeks. Slim Pushins: So, so the, they qualified, they qualified before we started recording. Did either of y'all watch qualifying? A couple, a couple of the veterans went above that runoff ⁓ in one and were, they were pretty fast, but it's a berm. Corby Scherb: Yeah. I some of it. I didn't get the full thing. Jim Gardner: I had it on. Corby Scherb: You can get up there. You can get up there. Like I said, it's just a long ways around there. I think, and TV will never do it justice, how much downhill you run going into turn three and how much uphill it is going into one. Now, Jimmy, you've raced Devil's Bowl like you know that Devil's Bowl was kind of like that. You kind of go into turn three and you would hit the dip before you came back up off turn four. not even comparable to what evil is, not even close. Jim Gardner: Yeah, ⁓ devil's Slim Pushins: Rico just beat second place by right at two seconds, and he beat third place by four seconds. Jim Gardner: Yeah, he- Corby Scherb: If anyone if not everyone has ever looked inside of Rico Abreu's car to see like his seat mount and how his pedals are he posted actually a YouTube video of how he actually sits in those cars ⁓ The same he ran the same steering wheel for like 10 years that was like purposely bent to to clear him Yes ⁓ Jim Gardner: Yeah, it's shaped like a pringle. Looks like a pringle is the easiest way. Correct. Slim Pushins: It still is. Yeah. Because he says because he can't reach when he turns when he turns hard left, his right hand can't reach. So it's it's ⁓ angled toward him, which is really cool. Jim Gardner: I would say probably the most, the best steering wheel for him would be like a drag race butterfly steering wheel, but it's probably way too dangerous if he crashes to have that thing whip around and have blunt ends and stuff like that. So they kind of bend it up like a Pringle. He's just a cool story, man. He's super cool. Corby Scherb: Right? Yeah. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: You know what else? I'll go ahead and say this and yeah, just go ahead and like cut it off, you know? People say, you know, well Rico comes from a lot of money, he does come from a lot of money. It takes a will man to do even... Slim Pushins: I hate it when Corby starts a conversation like that because you never know what's coming next. Jim Gardner: you Slim Pushins: Go! Jim Gardner: There's a lot of people that come with from a lot of money that can't do diddly squat. So. Corby Scherb: Absolutely, you know Rigo Abreu is an absolute ripper. I mean the dude won the chili bowl. You don't even have to say anything else You you know what I mean like Absolute stuff in every car these ever drove what I think he actually drove a truck a couple times went really good in those His his love is dirt. That's where he goes the best Max I saw a video earlier just talking about Slim Pushins: Cheerio, everyone. Jim Gardner: Twice, three times, twice. Corby Scherb: Like the dangers and stuff and all the stuff that goes into just simple sprint car racing. There has been some people recently who's gotten hurt, but I think that's what people forget. Even Rico, designed, they moved the A-frame up for him, how he mounts his seat, how his feet sit. We also, as racers, will neglect some of that stuff sometimes. I'll call everyone out on this. Jimmy, there's no telling how old seat belts were in that car that you crashed at Delosville and if I'm a betting man they probably are still in that car to this day you know stretch beyond belief. ⁓ We do as racers sometimes and it matters how we mount our seat because what's comfortable to us to what fits inside the car. know Ryder gave me shit about you know I'm one of the smaller people it's a little bit easier for me and ⁓ there is people let you know like Jim Gardner: you Yeah. Corby Scherb: Jimmy, like you have a really tall torso and so you kind of struggled to get you drove a midget, you know, sure bracing. Jim Gardner: I hate full containment seats. I hate them. Corby Scherb: You know, there's some people, I'll say this, Claude Estes really likes even the old school nets, not necessarily the headrest. Jim Gardner: I I kind of don't want the backlash of it. ⁓ but if I could just run my crappy. Kyrgyz from 20 years ago in cajunets, I would, it's a little harder with the wing to do it. ⁓ because he, ⁓ because the Corby Scherb: Right? Slim Pushins: Why? Is it a perception like a field of view? Jim Gardner: No, so the the with the wing to get in and out of the car you'd have to unbuckle the the net and then the net's not as effective so like to get for the nets to be effective they need to be really really tight for nets and so you soak them in water and then get them on there and get them real tight and when they dry they shrink up a little bit i mean it is rock hard until you crash and then they give just like seat belts do and Slim Pushins: No, I'll... ⁓ Jim Gardner: I've crashed huge in full containment seats and I've crashed huge in non full containment seats and cage nets and knock on wood. There's many factors that go into getting hurt or not getting hurt. I always felt safer with things that could give a little bit. You know, there's a lot of discussion, ⁓ flea ruzik and stuff on the chassis being too rigid and the full containment seats being too rigid. ⁓ I think stuff has to give now you don't want to Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: give too much and be hanging out of the car. ⁓ but like I said, if it wasn't like a bad perception and to have people come hassle me in the pits about it not being safe all day, I would run it. I'm probably gonna, when I put my midget together for the chili bowl, I'm going to run it for weight at the chili bowl and stuff like that. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Everybody, everybody has different intricacies that they prefer and don't prefer. Corby's always one of those things, not necessarily with the car, the seat. Corby's always talked about how in all people are that Corby gets in and out of the car with his helmet on. Most don't, but it's just a lot of intricacies like that. Jim Gardner: Yeah, can't. I can get out, but it's a struggle. You know, if the car was on fire, I can get out, but it's just more comfortable for me to get in without it. Corby Scherb: Well... I... Brian. I think that was a big thing and I'll say this for me and all my brothers, like we grew up racing motorcycles like a lot of people knows, a lot of people don't know that, but ⁓ we didn't wear like no knee pads, no knee guards. We would kind of rear on the chest protectors and like anything that like we grew into to more safety was super struggle for us to learn how your body changes and the same like when we wore leathers and we had a hump on our back, we had to wear back braces and a kidney belt. Whenever we got into cars, we said that we was going to do exactly what the rules said. It was easier for us to learn how to drive with the same. know a lot of people now truly believe in knee guards after one flip and you hit your knees around a couple of times. ⁓ We were big on the arm restraints. know that we talked about Jeb or talked with Jeb about that. ⁓ The same, I wear a hybrid. That's what I felt more comfortable with. ⁓ You know, In my belief, if Sunday morning I don't wake up with bruises on my collarbones, I wasn't tight enough. I never crashed, that's just how tight I felt I needed to be. And in the ultra-shield seats we always ran, like Jimmy is saying, we did not go out and buy the Joy seats or carbon seats that we were form-fitted to, that are truly rigid. I think that a lot of times, I don't know if... any y'all ever watch the 18 going around the track, but you know, Logan crashed the law. Slim Pushins: Ha Jim Gardner: He was going to the front though, so it was never a problem. Corby Scherb: And he didn't... You know what mean? And... Slim Pushins: Mark that, hey, Jim, mark that. Corby Scherb: And I watched Merle even flip quite a few times. ⁓ I think that we ran seats that, like Jimmy is saying, still had some give to them. They wasn't just solid and rock hard, which I do believe, you know, I think that the rib guards in our seats can be too rigid and it's really easy just to slide out of a shoulder lock and catch a rib. My little thing that happened at Ardmore, It wasn't anything to do with any of the safety features around in my opinion. I how I came across the concrete wall was I mean as lucky as you can be and It's the same like Rico talked about That no matter if you wear a hybrid a hawns you wear an old-school Hutchins if you wear a just neck roll Anything that you restrain you're given up in other places of your body And so like the rib that I broke on the right side is basically exactly where my hybrid straps around my chest. So, but guess what? Didn't break a neck, didn't sever my spinal column. So. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Wow, that's the silver lining for corby. Corby Scherb: For sure. You'd be bombed, Kerbo. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it would, it would be big sad if that happened, ⁓ yeah, it's the ultra sealed seats. think. Kinda kind of hit the sweet spot for me. ⁓ you know, I have a LaJoy seat that I run non-wing cause it's got the biggest headrest I've ever seen in my life. ⁓ but you definitely just can't get in. I really like it. It's very comfortable. ⁓ it's. Also kind of heavy, but it's just massive up top and it just feels a little claustrophobic when I'm in there. I've gotten used to the Ultra Shields just out of necessity and like when I would run your all's car, they were in there and your dad wouldn't, you know, I had to really sweet talk him into letting me run the midget with my seat and cage nets in it because, know, heaven forbid if I would have got hurt in his car, he would have never Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Ever forgave himself, which is the way I feel whenever I'm working on somebody else's car. ⁓ and so I totally get that. ⁓ it's, know, but the, ⁓ the cage nets, you know, a lot of stuff that they used to do 20 years ago, ⁓ isn't necessarily the wrong way to go, you know, but, know, it's just like, you know, for me personally, you know, I don't really have a chassis preference. Corby Scherb: For sure. Jim Gardner: You know, if the car is an 87 40 and 88 40 and 86 40 and the bars turn free and the motor plate square, I could probably make it go pretty good. I'm not like a diva about it. Um, and I don't need like. Fancy, you know, people cut tubes out and people want reverse flop tube cars and oh, we're going to do this. We're going to do that. I am not a good enough race car driver to be able to tell the difference. Corby Scherb: Right. Jim Gardner: on any of that type of stuff. Like just give me the basic stuff and let's go make it go. And I kind of feel that same way on safety. The people at Ultra Shield and LeJoy and Butler Built and the chassis manufacturers, they say this is better. Who am I to say, no, it's not, you know, ⁓ I don't study that every day. So ⁓ while I have my opinions, you know, and we ask good questions, it's kind of. Corby Scherb: Right. Jim Gardner: The safety stuff, you don't want to put officials and people in the bad spots too. So ⁓ there's just a little balance there, but come January at the Chili Bowl, you'll see me with Cajun nuts, I promise. Corby Scherb: For sure. I think it's even the same. ⁓ you know, I-I- And it's not anything to dig at anyone. I felt like even I could tell the difference in having a halo inside of a cage compared to not having a halo. to, I mean, my favorite car that I ever had was, we don't even know what year it was made, an old school 8640 Eagle Standard Rail. And I know this thing flexed in every single place it could possibly flex. I felt like we had the most feel out of that car. And in the same like Jimmy talked about we ran a really short car for a while and this thing had the The sissy bar on the left arm and had a halo in it I felt like that chassis length probably could have worked it was just too rigid in too many areas and It's hard to know it's he goes back to the same thing and and I will say this to every single person You cannot go to the racetrack and test during a race Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Can't do it. You don't have time. you... Yes, absolutely. I know Jimmy is great at it. Wesley was huge at it too. It was, this is what we're gonna do. But... Yes. Jim Gardner: Right. I go with the game plan. It might be wrong, but this is, this is our plan. We've thought about this. We've had a conversation. We don't need to, we don't need to re-engineer stuff because they tilted up during intermission and we're two races away, you know, and we might be wrong and suck and you know what? ⁓ but we're actually going to suck with a plan. know, ⁓ there's, there's times where we'd chicken out and do some stuff, but, ⁓ that we, we never like. Corby Scherb: Correct. Correct. ⁓ Jim Gardner: got off our game plan and went good. You know what I mean? It was never better than what our initial plan would be. Corby Scherb: Yeah, I agree. I agree. You know, I think that a big fault, it happens even at the world of outlaw level, asking too many people too many opinions. ⁓ When you already know in your head what you need to do. It's you needed like me and I've called Jimmy before just to get some like Reassurance that yeah, yeah, this is this is what we need to do Because the tracks either gonna be hammered down slick curved up like this is what we planned on doing This is what we've done every weekend that it's like this stop overthinking it get in the car shut up and like I tell Kevin Rose for all the time be a race car driver a Lot of times that's what you just have to do Slim Pushins: Confirmation. All right. For those of you that are still with us after Jim's ⁓ safety and tech talk, ⁓ last weekend, well, first of all, let's read the y'all weren't nowhere to be found. I was at Abilene. Corby. Jim Gardner: I got my daughter baptized the other day. Why don't you just, I had family in town from Ohio. Slim Pushins: How'd that go? Jim Gardner: great. She waited to scream hysterically till they were done putting water on her. And then I took her out of the church and she looked amazing and it was good. Slim Pushins: Well, while I was at Abilene and you were ⁓ baptizing your daughter, Corby was not edging his yard. He mowed, didn't edge. And it has thrown, everybody knows that Corby's a schedule oriented guy and it has thrown you off. Why didn't you edge? Jim Gardner: you Corby Scherb: So Saturday ended up raining, so it kind of changed the plans on Sunday. And lucky for us and a couple of my buddies that I go golfing with sometimes, we were going to Topgolf anyways. So it was great, just covered, heater, the whole deal. Slim Pushins: Golf friends. There it is. You catch Corby's Golf Podcast on Saturday mornings. Jim Gardner: Like if you want to start a golf podcast, you can. Corby Scherb: Thank you, Intratech. Jim Gardner: You Corby Scherb: And so I could do it Sunday, plus I had Brooklyn. I try not to get too crazy. And so I was going to mow yesterday and got off work a little bit early, got the workout done. And I'm like, come on, dude, like you gotta go, you gotta go. Cause it's supposed to, it rained all day today. So I thought that. And I walked out of my garage and I hang my Weeder up the same, like not just scheduled, like super forgetful. Like if I don't put my wallet in the same spot, I will leave the house without my wallet. And I looked up and said, Jim Gardner: You're a mess. Corby Scherb: Where the hell's my Weeder? I started thinking and like, and so like even if I do leave it outside, I leave it on the sidewalk where I have to walk by it and I'll trip over it in the morning. Walked out, looked, looked at the backyard. I'm like, what? So factor fencing, my factor fencing, my brother, no, he could, he could hook me up. I need to call in for it actually at gas hall. Slim Pushins: M.I.A. Jim Gardner: Did you lose it? You want me to call my cousin Bobby bottle service? Have you send one? Slim Pushins: You ⁓ Jim Gardner: He's a big pushing the cushion P1. He listens every week and he'll text me about it. Sorry. Corby Scherb: He's huge, great guy. And ⁓ my brother has a factor fencing ⁓ and he has an employee there who apparently needed the weed eater yesterday. And he had called me a couple times and I missed his call and I tried to call him back and whatever, long story short, and he was like, I was like, hey dude, do you have my weed eater? And he was like, yeah. Slim Pushins: Ha! Corby Scherb: And he was like, actually, I was calling you today talking about gas cans. And I said, please tell me you didn't use that gas in my Weeder. Slim Pushins: What kind of gas was it, Corby? Corby Scherb: So in one jug I have race fuel that like sits there emptying out and then one jug I have for the lawnmower and then I always buy like true fuel for the two-stroke and it was a long pause. He didn't text back and I'm like, great, wonderful. Give my weedier bag. And he texted back and he was like, sorry buddy, I was trying to beat the rain. And I'm like, so am I. Slim Pushins: Ha Jim Gardner: hahahaha Corby Scherb: He was like, don't worry about it, I'll come, need your house. And I'm like, when? Next Saturday? Slim Pushins: So how well? Jim Gardner: So you're a true fuel guy, huh? Corby Scherb: True fuel when comes to Weasel. No, not anymore. Jim Gardner: You don't, you don't mix it yourself. Interesting. Okay. Corby Scherb: Interesting. ⁓ Slim Pushins: Anymore. Jim Gardner: I just learned something about you. You probably use Band-Aids too. Slim Pushins: skin tone color band-aids. Jim Gardner: Yeah, right. He probably had an umbrella out today too. That's all good. That's fine. Slim Pushins: Well, because y'all aren't, ⁓ fully invested in the sport. went by myself out to Abilene. We talked a little bit about on the podcast. I mean, on the recap, ⁓ good time Abilene was happy 18 cars, which is a massive for Abilene. So hospitable. Jim Gardner: So yeah, Wes Cranfield texts me. Yeah. He, Wes texted me. said he thought he was going to get a dozen, you know, before all the rain came. they got an extra six, ⁓ out there, which is just super. I'm, glad it worked out for him. Corby Scherb: Cool, it's great for the racetrack. Like you say, it's great for West Cranfield. That dude gives a lot more than I think he's ever given credit for. Him and even his wife, Susan, ⁓ they truly try to keep some of these racetracks that kind of seem to, like we said, know, Kennedale Super Locals, Hamas Waco Super Local, Abilene, Grayson. I know that they've had some talk about Rocket, but like some of these tracks that are a little bit one-off that like Curvo's gonna go along to say like the fans just want Sprint cars. That's it. Exactly. Yeah. Jim Gardner: Yeah, because they're going twice the speed of the other cars. They're awesome. Sprint cars are awesome. Slim Pushins: And they... They were so hospitable, ⁓ had driver introductions, which is always fun for me. don't know y'all think about what y'all think about. Jim Gardner: Herbo MC'd it. Slim Pushins: No, they hit me up. They hit me up and ⁓ they were gracious. They wanted to promote the podcast and ⁓ I don't know their announcer out there. One of the best in the business. I love the guy. He's he, I know he interviewed Corby a couple of times. Great questions. A lot of fan interaction. People love him. ⁓ He, he tossed up, literally tossed a mic at me. ⁓ way out of my comfort zone, as y'all disagree way out of my comfort zone. ⁓ but we, we, ⁓ I thank the fans for, coming out and, ⁓ wanted them to, wanted them to know, ⁓ how that racetrack, ⁓ among a lot of others stand out as, as just true sprint car loving fans, to make matters worse. he tosses me the mic, he asks me one question and I start to talk and then he walks off, gets a phone call and walks off. So at that point I just feel like I'm just a time filler. It was kind of funny. There's a video that exists somewhere. ⁓ Of course it will. Jim Gardner: Hahaha! us. It'll exist online in about 12 hours. Corby Scherb: Yeah, feel terrible. I forget his name. He always tried to give me crap. He's one of the, I will say this, I always liked announcers, especially during interviews that would talk back to you, not just give me the microphone and say, I drive the 32 car and I'm from here. Interacting with people just like this. know Jimmy doesn't have ⁓ great feedback. Slim Pushins: Great guy. A lot of personality. Yeah. Corby Scherb: but at least I can mess with Curvo about things. But this is the same, like I want this, want back and forth talking about safety or race cars or racetrack or like we're sitting here watching them bounce through the hole, going through one and two. ⁓ It's a lot easier if Jimmy gives his opinion, even though he's never actually been to Eagle, Jimmy can watch and he's watched enough racing to understand track shape. Slim Pushins: Chims. God. watch watch brad watch brad sweets drive off here well they just kind of brad sweet rolled the bottom in one and two Jim Gardner: I was just thinking Brad Sweet might have it dialed up there in the old silver machine. Corby Scherb: Breadsweet Breadsweets are free. Look at Cory Day. He actually ball parked himself last year clipped the back straight of the wall. Yeah It's kind of egg-shaped too. And I think that Cory just I'm not sure why he clipped the walls as bad as what he did but ⁓ Jim Gardner: Last year, yeah, I was gnarly. And then, ⁓ Didn't somebody do it at the Nationals too, just like that? ⁓ Slim Pushins: Probably just trying stuff. Corby Scherb: Oh yeah, uh, Tangersley, Channing, and a Mark Zoller car. Jim Gardner: No, last year? Somebody did it last year. Ended up basically in the same spot, not nearly as far off into the woods as the day was, but anyway. Race Saber Nationals, Labor Day weekend, go. Corby Scherb: No, not last year. He did, like, ⁓ I'm sure. Slim Pushins: ⁓ two years ago ⁓ Corby Scherb: Yeah, ⁓ it doesn't take a lot because yeah Like I said, it really is egg-shaped one and two is a lot tighter than three and four is Plus downhill you're cooking it and ⁓ I will be the first one to say this race saver nationals is the coolest Weekend for 305s if not for sprint cars. I mean it in my opinion for 305s It goes up there with the Knoxville Nationals or Eldora ⁓ The sun coming out of turn two, unreal. Absolutely unreal. You can't even explain how bad it is. Jim Gardner: Where is it? Is it down the back? You're looking in the sun. Corby Scherb: As soon as you roll through one and two and you even remotely start looking down the back straightaway You just got to go like this and try to find the sun and just try to block it Jim Gardner: Yeah, Lawrenceburg, Indiana is kind of the same way and you just couldn't flat out, I can't see. There's a 10 minute stretch where they should just play music and say, guys, ⁓ you know. Slim Pushins: Eagle, eagle goes... Corby Scherb: Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Slim Pushins: Eagle goes all out for that event. We're talking, it's gotta be tens of thousands of dollars worth of fireworks. ⁓ They do meet and greets. They have breakfast. I think they have like ⁓ a silent auction. ⁓ They do, they do a lot. They have a, a fan vote for best paint scheme. ⁓ What else do they have? Corby. ⁓ Corby Scherb: They have a cornhole tournament. have karaoke. ⁓ It's just one of those... I would have saying Pat Bennett's our heartbreaker if I had the shot. Slim Pushins: They have. Yeah. Jim Gardner: What'd you sing at karaoke? Slim Pushins: One woman, man. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha ha ha! Turbo. Corby Scherb: No, Kerbo, if you sing that stupid song, God, I'm gonna punch you right in the mouth. Slim Pushins: i i i did the i did i didn't sing i did the jello wrestling Corby Scherb: ⁓ okay. Did you officiate or did you actually do it? Jim Gardner: hahahahah Slim Pushins: Mark that, Jim. That'll make a highlight. They did Jell-O Wrestling one year. I think they did Spaghetti Wrestling one year. ⁓ Corby Scherb: It's just a cool weekend and it really is. ⁓ I know a lot of our listeners are from around here in Texas and not everyone has been to a place like Nebraska. And I mean truly cornfields after cornfields after cornfields and Eagle Nebraska is in the middle of nowhere. There's a gas station. There's a Casey's across the street that is the busiest gas station you've ever seen. It's the only place around. Jim Gardner: Well. Slim Pushins: Zero phone service. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: I think there's actually like one little cafe there. ⁓ Most people go to Lincoln. No, we bought a lot of bags of ice from Casey's, but yeah. Slim Pushins: We never made it down there. Yeah. Casey's Pizza. Yeah, zero phone service if you've got AT &T out there. I didn't even have enough phone service. I couldn't even stream music. We just sat in the quietness and just listened to Corby's mouth the whole time. Corby Scherb: ⁓ for sure. Jim Gardner: Good. you Corby Scherb: It's cool, a, I don't know, it's country, ⁓ it's different than the same like, Texan motor speedway sits, you know, truly in the heart of, just right outside of Fort Worth. When you go to a place like Eagle, it's super unique, the same, you we can talk about it, you know, now. I don't know how many people have ever been to Knoxville, Iowa. Knoxville, Iowa is... Slim Pushins: Great facility too. Jim Gardner: Awesome. Corby Scherb: I can't even explain it. We were still we didn't even know what sprint car we knew what sprint cars were we had no clue like we went to the museum ⁓ and it truly sits in the middle of town in the middle of Knoxville, is the racetrack and Is so cool Jim Gardner: It's awesome. Built around it. it's. It's it's it's the Eldora is the same way except for Eldora. There's nothing there. It's the racetrack and then there's eight miles of nothing either way you go. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Right. Slim Pushins: So back to Abilene. Let's finish that real quick. Corby Scherb: Well, I think that that like falls into, know, Abilene's kind of in the middle of nowhere Texas. Slim Pushins: ⁓ I mean, well, it's nowhere for us. It's a it's a city that's got three universities in it. So it's at least it's at least there. ⁓ The track is kind of off in an industrial area. But ⁓ like I said, great fans. ⁓ John Ricketts ran away with it again. So Corby, what do you have to say about the Corby curse now? Is it? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah, right. Corby Scherb: Right. Slim Pushins: You still believe in the push in the cushion bad juju or what? Corby Scherb: I don't know, we've been talking to Chad about being on here and Chad center punched the tire, he pulled a Corby move. Jim Gardner: you Corby Scherb: and ⁓ tried to- I- ⁓ Slim Pushins: But he kept it going. He kept it going. Did a full 360, hit a tractor tire. That alone tells you that he's got so much more talent than you do. If you even got the same zip code as a tractor tire, we were done for the night. Corby Scherb: ⁓ for sure. Nah, it's like I tell everyone before I would ever hit one, someone moved it before me. That's what I told Chad. Someone clearly moved it before he got there. Jim Gardner: Ha ha. Slim Pushins: Yeah. He got the, ⁓ it's weird to say, but he got the better end of that deal because the next lap, ⁓ DJ Estes ⁓ slid up into, so the theory was that when Wilson hit the tractor tire, it might've splashed out a bunch of water from the rain and ⁓ DJ Estes was coming back through and just slid up the track into Kevin Raimi who got the worst end of all three of those cars. ⁓ Corby Scherb: See you tomorrow. Jim Gardner: No, that sucks. Slim Pushins: Yeah, I think he messed up some radius rods. Corby Scherb: And now that... ⁓ Jim Gardner: But that's sprint car racing, man. That's, mean, that's, stuff happens. Corby Scherb: For sure, and I know Jimmy knows this, lot of sprint car racing is things happen so fast, and we kind of talked about, know, things should happen almost in slow motion, but you're so, it's such about timing. A lot of time, like, your eyes cannot focus that fast, and DJ went in just like he always does and ran across Slick Spot. Slim Pushins: Is this the LCQ that we have on right now? Corby Scherb: to be made. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yep, Jason Martin just crashed. Corby Scherb: Jason Martin just went for it. Old Jason Martin built a lot of shots for Logan. Super smart guy. Slim Pushins: Jason Martin, is he out? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: that he kept wrecking or what? Corby Scherb: Yeah, Logan had to take them off all the time and send it back to him. Usually they were hanging off. Slim Pushins: Really take one, like one bolt, get him off the car. Jim Gardner: you Well, I mean, I've got I've got a set in Indiana right now, so I can't I can't beat the pot calling the kettle black. Corby Scherb: Yeah, just... Yeah, I'll call him out right now. Marcus Kennedy ⁓ did my shocks for me. Jim Gardner: My set had 11 laps on it. Slim Pushins: Let's talk real quick about this weekend. KSP is racing this weekend. Ennis Biggo is running Power I 410s down there in Ennis. ⁓ I'm tempted. I don't know. I'm tempted to go both places. I haven't decided yet. Ryder the Kid LaPlante is going to be down there. Jim Gardner: There's a lot of power eye guys running right now too in Nebraska, so they got quite a haul. Corby Scherb: Yep. Jim Gardner: ⁓ weather might decide whether or not you're doing it either of them. Slim Pushins: I don't doubt that. Let's just bring up the old radar real quick. Jim Gardner: ⁓ I'll be in NS Friday. We're taking the motor to the dyno. Slim Pushins: Ears? Ear motor? Jim Gardner: Now, Justin's, I got it in. That bullet's ready to roll. ⁓ Get it all tuned up. Slim Pushins: Looks like right now we've got a 24 % chance here in the Metroplex on Wednesday, 24 % chance on Thursday, 10 % chance on Friday. It says 56 % chance on Saturday, but it looks like it's late, late in the night, 11 or 12 o'clock. So it'll change a lot before then. Corby Scherb: Maybe packed up and headed home to Canada by then. Slim Pushins: I'm not an Ennis. It might be good. Last time, last time I remember being an Ennis, I was out there with Jim in a non-wing car and it was so dusty that you couldn't, ⁓ Corby Scherb: No, that's not the last time you were there, is it? Jim Gardner: I'd probably been, cause I haven't gone back. ⁓ I went out with Jeb a couple of times and you just never know what you're going to get. Either get like a real good racetrack or just put around the tires and just, yeah. So hopefully maybe this rain will help. Corby Scherb: Maybe. Slim Pushins: I hadn't been out there in a while. A dust bowl. Corby Scherb: You know, I went there Yeah, I went there one time with Rutherford last year and Helped him in tune on his car and the track was really good. You could run the bottom three and four kind of they actually let it curb up a little bit ⁓ It's a cool place it's got really unique shape to it ⁓ But they kind of yeah and and yeah Yeah Jim Gardner: I got that big, it's real flat for three lanes and then it gets real high banked down there in three and four. I got a picture somewhere. Corby Scherb: It reminds me a lot of like, well like Ardmore is like that. Like Ardmore, if you run around the tires, it's almost like off-cambered. And Ardmore runs like way up a hill. ⁓ Big O is just a long way around there. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it's just a long way to get there. Slim Pushins: If I end up going down there, I'm going to inquire about those Crown Vic's so that we can put this argument to rest so I can kick the shit out of y'all in a Crown Vic. Jim Gardner: Yeah. the Corby Scherb: I'll cut the racetrack and junk you. I'll cut the racetrack. Slim Pushins: I would expect Corby Scherb: We can talk, you wanna talk about that? One time we had a go-kart national, I wonder who won that race? Slim Pushins: That was at F1 speed in Arlington. K1. Jim Gardner: That's cause you... Yeah, that's cause you flirted with the girl who assigned the carts. Corby Scherb: K1. K1. Hey, I didn't flirt with anyone. I listened to her tell me about her Chrysler 200 or whatever it was. Slim Pushins: Corby called it. Corby called it pre-race prep. That's what he was doing. Jim Gardner: That's flirting. Corby Scherb: Yeah, if you stay ready then you ain't gotta get like that. Jim Gardner: broke that sweet sweet gal's heart. Slim Pushins: I remember one of the guys that was with us completely forgot that there was a chicane on the back stretch and just mowed it down. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: That was fun ⁓ time. Slim Pushins: Absolutely mowed it down. ⁓ I would expect Corby Scherb: It was a good time. I beat Jim basically in everything that I've ever tried. Jim Gardner: Moving on. Turbo, what's next on this run sheet built on Excel? Slim Pushins: I would expect the XL, oh, now you want me to look into the XL run sheet? Okay. I would expect, let's talk about KSP. would expect there's probably, you know, we're just a few weeks before the big 5,000 to win race. I would expect, weather aside, there'll probably be 25 cars there. 28. Corby Scherb: I'm going to 28. Jim Gardner: Yeah. You're not going to lose as many to the 410 deal that you did maybe a year two ago. ⁓ But I think there's still, you know, Claude's got one. guess he's taken it a saw because they're running like a, ⁓ you know, a little contest for the outlaws of their series or whatever who can run the best. So, you know, Austin Mundy. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Yeah. Right. Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: Claude's got a 410. Who else has still got one? I can probably find that and pull that up. don't know how quick I can do that, but there's a couple. Slim Pushins: What do you have a spreadsheet of the local guys? Jim Gardner: No, they posted it. anyway, so, you know, Kyle Jones, I don't think is running the four 10 anymore. They'll be, Corby Scherb: ⁓ Slim Pushins: I, if the weather. Corby Scherb: No, that's what I heard. He's gonna do the midget stuff and then run some 305 stuff for Ryan Hall. Jim Gardner: Yeah, so, you know, Jeb doesn't run the 410 anymore. Rickets doesn't have, didn't he have a 410 for a little bit too? You know, a lot of those guys that's just kind of dried up in the area as far as locals. So ⁓ it's not going to pull the, the kind of the old guys like it would have two years ago. So. ⁓ Slim Pushins: I feel like because we're getting so close to that 5,000 to win race that if the weather shows a legitimate promise of racing, think that you might get some people like the Harris's up from the Houston area. You might get some Lubbock and Amarillo guys. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Right. I know Jacob Gamolo was at Abilene. I would think that he ⁓ stuck around to run Kennedy because I've heard that he's going to run the 5,000 to win race. I know he's going to be around for Speed Week. Super, super fast. Slim Pushins: He was. He was in ⁓ Lance Christie's second car. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Yeah, super fast dude from the PAA area. Way more sprint car racing than around here. Slim Pushins: A lot more options. So when, when I was in Abilene, ⁓ both when I was in Abilene and since our last podcast, I've gotten a lot of messages ended up in a lot of conversations, good and bad. A lot of questions about gyms, slim pushings. That's a hundred percent. I'm so tired of that. Everybody. Hey, Hey, it's Kerbo. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Bye now. Jim Gardner: The first set of questions is where's Corby at? Slim Pushins: Where's Corby? Jim Gardner: Love the podcast. Where's Corby at? Slim Pushins: Yeah, we're trying to Corby and I are trying to convince Jim to make podcast t-shirts that on the back just says, where's Corby? So if, if we can get it, if we can get enough, if we can get enough backing on that, maybe we can talk Jim into pushing the cushion t-shirts that say, where's Corby? Corby Scherb: He's just now crawling out. It's been a minute. Slim Pushins: He's getting out. I want to see this replay. Jim Gardner: ⁓ wow. Corby Scherb: We just got done talking about safety and stuff. So I'm just standing up slow. ⁓ No, I'm, you know. Slim Pushins: ⁓ there's something to replay. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. What were we talking about? Slim Pushins: The power rankings. The Where's Corby power rankings. Corby Scherb: You know, let's, where's Corby on power rankings? Negative. I don't think that we have said the Estes name enough, you know, it's not just Claude or Kevin Rutherford, know, DJ and Colby both, I mean, absolutely contenders to win any weekend, you know. Slim Pushins: RIP. Jim Gardner: Daniel, ⁓ Daniel doesn't run hardly ever anymore, but he, when he did, he got it on. I wouldn't be shocked if he was like, you know what? I to race this weekend and be upfront. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Right. For sure. But DJ and Colby both go really good. ⁓ They've been strong contenders. As long as I have known about sprint car racing around here, I know DJ is just, he's having, like always, DJ is just super consistent and things are clicking right now. For sure. Slim Pushins: absolute nicest people around. Jim Gardner: Yeah, he's been upfront Colby, ⁓ Colby's had off to us a little bit slower started that, ⁓ one Kennedale show. He broke in a transfer spot in the B main. I don't know what it was, but it was coming to checkers and they was like trying to Fred Flintstone it across the line. Cause he was, I think leading or running second in that B. ⁓ and that kind of hurt them, but yeah, DJS this has been upfront every week. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Yep. Yeah. Jim Gardner: running good in heat races, ⁓ you know, and ⁓ has been a threat to win every week. you know, ⁓ even with the little mishap with Kevin Ramey last week, still had a good finish. I think he still finished up in the top 10. So he's been good. So ⁓ we do have the power rankings up and I've got, ⁓ I will Corby Scherb: Yep. Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: I emailed it to you or I texted it to you guys so you can look at it right now. I don't know if I can do it live while we're recording, but we'll have it up here. So. Right now. Slim Pushins: We need to figure that out. It'd be cool if we could bring up stuff like that. Jim Gardner: Well, the viewers will see it, Kerbo. And that's all that really matters. So pull it up on your phone. ⁓ The top of the board right now, it's pretty undeniable. You probably don't need a computer to say it, but John Ricketts is the man to beat. That's why we had him on a couple of weeks ago. Three, three feature starts and two wins and he was running second and broke in the other one. So, ⁓ Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: I'm no math whiz, but that's about a 66 % winning percentage right now, right? Jim Gardner: That's... you might be a math whiz. Corby Scherb: He's going good, you know, I don't think that anyone sleeps, well I don't think anyone sleeps on John Ricketts. He's always been fast. He's always been super, super tough. Slim Pushins: That's my South Lake Carol math. Jim Gardner: You Now, yep. And, and certainly I think, you know, he even talked about it the last two years were not up to his standards and he's off to a hot start. ⁓ DJs in second in our power rankings, ⁓ average finish of 4.3. And again, that includes getting tangled up, running third and, ⁓ Colby Stubblefield is second or excuse me, his third, he's only run twice, but he has an average charge of nine positions gained in both of those. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: features. ⁓ Corby Scherb: just wait until Colby finally gets a start up towards the front. Jim Gardner: Yeah, we might all be in trouble. ⁓ you know, so, ⁓ he's in third. Zoolander has had a sneaky good start to the year and didn't he spin out from the lead at 105? Isn't that what you guys told me? Slim Pushins: Yeah. Fourth place, Landon Valenzuela. Corby Scherb: Yup. Heave, heave. He's, yep, and then he actually, went upside, did he go upside down at Kennedale? No he didn't, no he didn't, no he didn't. No, he made a big, hop, yeah. But yeah, that's right, him and Lance Christie were going at it at 105 and cruising in turn three and turned it around. Jim Gardner: No, he's going to be, he biked it real bad in that heat race and, ⁓ Yeah. So he had a DNF and he's still finished average finish a sixth place. ⁓ so, you know, the, the stats and the power rankings don't tell the whole story just because there's a limit to how much data I can get. ⁓ but Corby Scherb: Yep. Slim Pushins: Well, if you just, when you think that John Rick at 66 % winning percentage can't get any better. Fifth place is Justin five field. He's raised, raised one feature, one, one feature. So five field kudos to you, buddy. You're, you're at a hundred percent. You can retire at this point. Jim Gardner: You Yep, so. I do, ⁓ the algorithm does kind of account for number of races one, just so it doesn't skew, you know, the one-off wins on low starts. And this data will only get better through more races and be more thorough. But, ⁓ yeah, I think nobody sleeps on the 11 J car when it's in the pits. ⁓ it. Slim Pushins: Look at Rickett's average charge is minus one. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Bye. Jim Gardner: Well, well, you know, he DNFs, know, that he loses 15 spots, you know, or something like that. ⁓ again, it doesn't really tell the whole story. You know, you have to watch it with your eyes, but, ⁓ other guys up front, Kyle Jones, Marcus Thomas, no shocks there. ⁓ even only with one race under their belt, you know, ⁓ you know, those guys are contenders every week. Claude is eighth. ⁓ he's got that win at Waco. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Right, right. Corby Scherb: you Jim Gardner: And, ⁓ Carson Bowden and Lance Christie bust into the top 10 with a good run. ⁓ a good run Saturday. Where'd he finish Saturday? Corby Scherb: think it was the Texas State Champion last year, actually. Slim Pushins: I talked to... Jim Gardner: Yeah, he finished... ⁓ Why can't I figure this out? Fifth. Slim Pushins: I talked to Carson Bolden this week. He told me that they found some gremlins in the car. I would expect Bolden to start creeping up as these races continue on. And like you said, the data starts evening itself out. Jim Gardner: Lanses. Yeah, Lance was fifth. I want to make sure I give him credit for a good run at Aveline there. ⁓ sorry, I couldn't find it, but yeah, Bolton, you know, Bolton's supposed to run OCRS all year. I don't know how much I'm actually going to follow that because then, you know, to do this properly, I have to track every driver in the field and then I have to track every driver in the field's races all year, ⁓ to make sure the scores are kind of updated. So there's just going to be some that kind of. Slim Pushins: Right. Jim Gardner: fall through the wayside. So Bolden needs to decide is he want to run OCRS and make a bunch of money or does he want to win Chad Kerbo's Slim Pushin's DFW 305 power rankings? Slim Pushins: This inaugural Slim Pushings. Corby Scherb: Yeah, you know, there's a lot of good guys. There's a lot of super fast guys that haven't got a win yet that ⁓ get a couple every single year. that's where everything can change the same. Stubblefield's running really good right now. His big thing is hard charger. ⁓ He's always good for a couple of wins a year. Chad Wilson, you know, let's be honest. Jim Gardner: special Mega Bowl championship. Slim Pushins: Yes. Jim Gardner: Yeah, Chad, think, I think, you know, Chad's only run two races, right? And he got tore up or had a flat in one of them. You know, Kevin Ramey got, you know, got tore up. He's not going to score well and he's not going to be able to run too many races. And you know, come speed week or anytime Ramey's unloaded in the pits, you're probably going to have to deal with them. So yeah. Yeah. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Yeah, Dylan, you know, Dylan, Dylan goes really good too. ⁓ It'll be cool to see and to it'll be really cool to see how many people ⁓ can make all the races. You know, let's not leave out, you know, Mr. Conspiracy, Chip Sessoms. ⁓ He's always due for quite a few wins. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Well, he, ⁓ yeah. And he's, he got dinged hard, ⁓ from last Cannondale show from having math. And so the sample size is still really small, but, ⁓ I don't know. want to make sure we're giving people props that might be sneaking up there. Guys like DJ stubble field landing, ⁓ and make sure that we're recognizing them. ⁓ if all the Jim Gardner 51 fans I know are waiting on their edge of their seat, I have Corby Scherb: Right. Slim Pushins: A of people, a lot of people were asking me. Corby Scherb: big ride. Slim Pushins: ⁓ he's up on the shelf. Jim Gardner: I have plummeted an- ⁓ Corby Scherb: And another one, under caution. Jim Gardner: Dude, so we had safety talk earlier. I'll tell you what would help safety. there's two of them. Slim Pushins: ⁓ there's the steering wheel throw. We got the Justin Bates official steering wheel throw. Jim Gardner: I'll tell you what probably frightens me more. Go ahead. Slim Pushins: People don't realize, hold on, I hate to interrupt you, but just because it's on the screen and I'm the classic case of ADD, ⁓ people that have never been to Eagle, he flipped up over the top shelf. There's kind of a shelf of probably 20 feet between. the top of the wall and like, I guess what would be considered a catch fence. It's hard to get up there. I mean, it's a wall. that didn't, if you're watching this, ⁓ you'll know what we're talking about. If you don't, you've been lost for probably most of the show anyway. Corby Scherb: Like I said, it's the banking too. Look at the UTV sitting there. The banking is pretty intense there. Jim Gardner: Hahaha! Yeah. The, ⁓ the thing that frightens me most. Slim Pushins: They're turning them over with him in the car. That's a good question. Corby, you've probably been in both scenarios. Is there pro or con with staying in the car when they flip it over versus trying to get out? Is that just a driver preference? Corby Scherb: Usually, no, it's actually, it's really tough to get in and out of a sprint car anyway and to do it upside down or lay on your side is extremely tough. There's been a time that I've actually been pinned, I had a foot pinned down and you ask them to flip you over really gently because this is no dig at no track but sometimes they'll flip you over hard enough to flip, you'll continue to flip the other way. but sometimes I think they just just, yeah! Slim Pushins: That makes for great TV. I mean, let's just be honest. If we're gonna dabble in this world of journalism as we are, that makes for great TV. Jim Gardner: Yeah. A lot of the local tractors don't have the personnel. don't have the understanding, know, they're, especially if it's like Abilene that's got, and I'm not taking a dig at Abilene, but if they run stock cars, you know, if they, if they run stock cars all the time, they're not used to being able to push a car over with three people and understand. if you're sitting in it, Corby Scherb: But, ⁓ Yeah. Slim Pushins: Watch this replay. They're about to show this replay of Corby Scherb: Correct. Slim Pushins: ⁓ he just got... He just got into the wall. He got the right rear into the wall and... Jim Gardner: Yeah, exactly what Corey day did last year. But, ⁓ you know, I don't, I like to get out of the car no matter what. ⁓ cause you don't know if the rear suspension is blown apart. When they go flip it over, you're going to land, you know, the, yeah. ⁓ I just like getting out right away. I guess, I guess somebody checked up and he didn't know it was red and he flips over. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: harder than you wrecked. That was a rough ride for the 22. Corby Scherb: I was told... I was told by ⁓ Leslie McNorton and Jimmy Gardner, don't get out of the car. Whatever you do, don't get out of the car. Jim Gardner: That's a chili bowl, bro. Yeah, well sometimes, you know, it's destroyed and not fixable in the heart hot pit too, so Yeah Slim Pushins: The story that you just told Corby about your... Corby Scherb: ⁓ for sure. For sure. Slim Pushins: both of these were destroyed. Corbyn, the story that you just told about having your ankle pinned, that was in Waco, wasn't... isn't there a video that exists ⁓ of a track of one of the firemen just getting yeeted? Corby Scherb: Yeah, well, I told him when I was upside down. And actually, my... Is it a kick reel or a nerf bar, Jim? Jim Gardner: The Nerf Bar. Slim Pushins: Ha ha ha! Corby Scherb: My Nerf Bar for whatever reason came out of the spud and actually came in the car. Jim can finish the story later, but I was just, it was truly like a Tommy Tipover. Like it was nothing. I slammed on the brakes, got sideways and actually hit Robert Byrum and just like bounced once and just fell over. And my... right foot, people forget, know, our drive shafts and torque tubes run right between our ankles. My foot was pinned underneath the torque tube. And you don't know why, and you can't see the same, like all the safety gear and everything. And I'm like trying to pull my helmet down to see to make sure I'm not bleeding out. And I told them whenever they got there, I was like, hey, be careful, my foot's pinned. And there was a safety official there that deserves a Grammy. Slim Pushins: He We tried to get him a t-shirt. Corby Scherb: Yeah, for that ⁓ he flipped me over and I mean rode that thing out to the bitter end. He actually flipped over the fuel cell trying to flip me over and like set me down gently. And once they flipped me over and it released the torque tube from the bottom, my foot came out and then Kerbal still throws a fit because I needed to walk it off. it was was one of those moments that yeah, I think so. Yeah, I just needed to there's there's something but it's like Jimmy's saying. ⁓ Jim Gardner: You Yeah, you told it on here. Slim Pushins: He wouldn't get, have I told that story? Corby Scherb: The bumper was ripped off. I knew like we were done for the night. We lost the championship. I was mad enough anyways. I didn't need to go and have Jimmy and Westich. I beat the wing back flat enough to finish the race. Jim Gardner: ⁓ I think I was standing in the hot pit wondering why the hell you got out of the car. I was pissed. Corby Scherb: because I was told to never get out of the car. But yeah, it was just one of those and... Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. Slim Pushins: Yeah, I was just a make-a-wish kid trying to get him to get on the four-wheeler and he made me look stupid. Corby Scherb: But ⁓ yeah, I think that a lot of times too when we're upside down, we're mad anyways, whether it was our fault or not. ⁓ You ask them to be gentle whenever they flip you over, because like Jimmy's saying, if the rear suspension's broke, it's gonna hurt a lot strapped to that seat as they flip you over. So I personally like to try to stay in the car. Yeah. Jim Gardner: Ugh. Yeah. Corby Scherb: I've had a couple injuries in my life and I don't quite bend like I used to so it's easier for me to let them flip me over and then get out. Slim Pushins: Yeah, Corby mentioned earlier that they used to race motorcycles. Most people know that, but the Sherbs, if you've ever traveled with the Sherbs, they have to go through special TSA lines at the airport because of the metal rods and titanium. None, not one of them can get through a metal detector. So I'm sure Corby always complained. That's why he hates the cold weather. If you ever see Corby in the cold weather, he's, he's not a happy camper. It's because of all the, just the rods and titanium shoulders. Corby Scherb: You know, it's wild. Lucas has had some minor injuries. He had a separated shoulder once, but Lucas actually has never broke a bone. Lucas did really good. was very graceful. He was very graceful whenever he did crash. Usually, I don't think that Lucas ever crashed because it was his fault. Jim Gardner: because he's a perfect human specimen according to Kerbo. Slim Pushins: Exactly what it is. Lucas Liz every day like a Pantene commercial. He gets up and the birds are chirping. Corby Scherb: For sure. ⁓ Logan actually went to car racing because it's not that the injury list was too big, but the injury list got really out of control. Slim Pushins: ⁓ yeah. Corby Scherb: So that's kind of why we started. And then the same, like we talked about Knoxville a little bit. We said it all our life, like we would do anything to get to drive a sprint car. Thought they were the coolest things in the world. We would go to Boyd, ⁓ not to like give out any shout outs, but like we thought that Jason Howe like hung the moon. Cause this dude would show up and he would take the, to the tail for the old school SST races and then drive to the front. So. Slim Pushins: I wasn't around during those days. Corby Scherb: long pause but yeah that long long before DSS man SST DSS ⁓ it was good times that they did a lot for the drivers that not a lot of people do anymore it's the same like a I've always said it I think that there's too many people that know me by my number and or by my helmet or our Jim Gardner: was pretty, TSS was fun times, man. Corby Scherb: bright orange on our gloves. Not everyone knew me by my face. TSS was super good about putting us in front of the fans, bringing the fans into it. Same, even getting kids. Jim Gardner: There's, ⁓ there was some head scratching stuff that they would do, but they're on, know, it was frustrating to be a competitor or crew guy sometimes, but they were a very net positive for racing in the area. ⁓ and it left, it left a big hole in what we are doing, ⁓ in, our racing scene when it kind of fizzled away and hopefully. Corby Scherb: Right. I agree. Slim Pushins: Very. Fans first. Jim Gardner: Hopefully we can get something like it back eventually. ⁓ but you know, between traveling and, know, we talked about the Abilene car count. It hasn't been that big since TSS, you know, the TSS, like I said, they, they had stuff that was head scratching. Like you had to be on a list by Tuesday. And if you missed a race, then you might not race for a month because you wouldn't get invited. And that was frustrating, but we had 24 cars at every race or 20 cars or whatever it was. And it was a good group of guys. You know, they. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Right. Jim Gardner: didn't run each other over a lot. ⁓ I wasn't a big fan of them trying to kind of police the racing too much, because I felt like it was impossible for them to be consistent 100 % of the time. But I understood why they did it, and they were trying to not tear stuff up, which is fine. I get it. But it has left, what is it about then, three, four years since it's kind of Corby Scherb: Right. Right? Jim Gardner: Fizzled out. ⁓ It's left kind of a hole and we're all kind of, know, luckily Speed Week's back to be able to go to Rocket and go to Hunt County and ⁓ even go to Ennis and go to some of these different tracks and feel like it's more of a tour and feel like it's more of a big deal because I mean, like those Grayson County races were rowdy. The fans are rowdy. Those Abilene races were rowdy. You if we didn't have to leave Abilene because we weren't going to get home till the sun came up. Corby Scherb: Yep. Yep. ⁓ for sure. For sure. Jim Gardner: You could stay out and hang out with those people all night long, you know. ⁓ So ⁓ they did good stuff. out. Shout out to all those guys. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Yeah, cause we'll go ahead touch... Yeah, we'll go ahead and touch base on it. know, the whole, the slide job stuff. ⁓ It was never, I personally never threw a slider to take anyone out, but I know that if we're running the top that night, I don't care if it's Jim Gardner, Chad Wilson, Marcus Thomas, Logan, it doesn't matter. Like I still have to break his momentum. And it is also up to Logan if... Jim Gardner: Yeah, it's racing. Corby Scherb: He wants to check up and turn underneath me or try to race around the outside of me or if You know, said I have been ballparked and the driver was super apologetic. It's it's no big deal. It happens My job whenever I threw a slider was to One I I hoped that I showed up without you know when I was there I startled you ⁓ Two I have to break your momentum no matter what Jim Gardner: You Corby Scherb: But then three, I need to leave you enough room because I don't want that slider thrown back at me in the next corner. ⁓ I think that... Jim Gardner: Yeah, it's, you know, I'm sorry, keep going. I'm sorry. Corby Scherb: I just think that there is, especially around here, there's a big, like me and John talked about it, me and Jeff talked about it. Me and Chad Wilson have got ⁓ into it a couple times, but it was never intentional, anything that I ever did, if I ever got into you, never. I never did anything maliciously. Jim Gardner: It, you know, we're sitting here watching the high limit race and these guys are going to change lanes and throw bombs that aren't clear on each other. Left and right. And we go out there on Saturday night trying to duplicate it. And that's what the fans want to come see, you know, and the thing is, the problem is they're running for, they got to be running for multiple Ks to win. I don't even know what this pays, but it's a lot more than what a Saturday night show and the TSS would run. ⁓ and, and the, the risk versus reward. Corby Scherb: Yup. Right. Jim Gardner: Was not great. And that's what they tried to police, right? They don't want you junking $10,000 worth of stuff to win an $800 to win show. and that was what they tried to convey. I a hundred percent get that. I appreciate it. when it came back to us, it was frustrating, you know, cause it would be clear and you just can't police it. It's like trying to call balls and strikes and baseball. Corby Scherb: Correct. Correct. Yep. Jim Gardner: You just can't get it right all the time. And then people are going to cherry pick and it wasn't setting up the officials to be in a good spot that wore them out. And they didn't want to put up with a BS anymore because they were, because you're almost trying too hard. Just, Hey, throw the green flag and let the racers figure it out. It'll police itself. You know, ⁓ Corby Scherb: For sure. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I agree with you and I think that it... Jim Gardner: The problem is it's going to police itself with a couple cars getting junked and you know, like there's going to be some collateral damage and they didn't want it. I get it. They didn't want that to happen. And I appreciate that. And so, ⁓ you know, ⁓ but anyway, TSS, I do miss it. It was fun. Corby Scherb: Yeah, that's Correct. Correct. Yeah, you know, ⁓ we'll call them out right now. I probably put ⁓ Rick Burdick and Wes Cramfield in bad spots a couple times arguing my point. And it's like everyone says, no one wants to be an official, especially whenever you're saying you have to police that stuff. It just makes it even tougher. ⁓ they had a great thing with the Traveling series that there was big hype too that you could talk about these five. Jim Gardner: Yeah. It's. Corby Scherb: 10 drivers are going to be here compared to like we talk about you know, Kennedale will always have that special thing kind of like Devil's Bowl always had that special thing and I'm just I'm happy that Abilene had that car turnout. I really hope that Grayson does too because Grayson fans are gnarly. Jim Gardner: I'm a little worried about Grayson being three days before speed week. You know, I'm probably gonna try like hell to go. ⁓ But I also, you know, we got to race Wednesday night and you know, my stuff, I'm not planning on running speed week, but my stuff's gonna be back up for some guys. And you know, we go out to Grayson County and tear it up and it's really gonna put us in a bind. So, ⁓ you know, but I hope, but what are they gonna do? Not schedule a sprint car race? Corby Scherb: I know, I know, I agree with you. Yeah. Right. For sure. For sure. Jim Gardner: You know, at some point it's going to be the last race before speed week. It's going to be the last race before the Kennedy show. So Kerbo, you falling asleep? Slim Pushins: I'm not falling asleep. Jim Gardner: You Corby Scherb: We were talking racing, so Kerbo just set back. Slim Pushins: Yeah, I'm sorry. Can y'all start over? Can y'all start over right after the intro? Corby Scherb: ⁓ nah. Jim Gardner: I do know that the secret service and the FBI and everybody are going to probably take us off their watch list. This is back to back weeks. We're not talking about the moon landing. They're probably, ⁓ nevermind. These guys, it's a dead lead. Slim Pushins: show's not over. Corby Scherb: I mean, yeah. Talk about safety and how fast they say that that dude entered the Earth's atmosphere is, there's no sprint car chassis in this world that's ever going to survive that. Slim Pushins: Well, after... Jim Gardner: Uhhh... Slim Pushins: 25,000 miles an hour, slowed down by three parachutes. Corby Scherb: Seven seconds. Seven seconds. We're gonna hit make impact. Kadush! Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim, you want a quick declaration? Corby Scherb: That's a big old cannonball. Slim Pushins: Uh, yeah. So Abilene was, Abilene was a good time, uh, between power rankings talk and, nobody really caring that I was personally there. People want to know where Corby was. Uh, you know, so there's, so there's that, but Abilene's always a good time. It's a, it's a long way out there. It's a long way back. Um, but it's worth it. Jim Gardner: think you guys got some bad information. Corby Scherb: I agree. It's better than driving through ⁓ Dallas morning or afternoon traffic. Slim Pushins: to Friday afternoon traffic, trying to get to Waco. Corby Scherb: ⁓ for sure. Waco was always tough. Waco was always just a massive pen. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. Jim Gardner: ⁓ those Devil's Bowl Friday night shows. God, dude. Slim Pushins: All right, well, ⁓ looking down at the Excel spreadsheet run list sponsored by Excel. Jim Gardner: I don't miss that. Corby Scherb: What? Slim Pushins: I think we've been through ⁓ just about everything that I've got. Corby, you got anything else? Anything you want to add? Corby Scherb: Excited to see some Kennedale, excited to see if there's anyone else. I don't know, like I said, maybe Jacob Ramola hung out to try to get his feet wet again at Kennedale. Everyone knows Kennedale's super unique. Slim Pushins: I didn't tell you guys this. ⁓ At Abilene, ⁓ I was asked to let all the other push vehicles know that Abilene was cool with ⁓ the push vehicles parking on the infield, watching from the infield as long as we were not moving at all under green. That was great. So I went up and down the line in the shoot, let everybody know, you know, those that know me. If you can watch me infield, that's always a win because you're not getting dust, you're not getting swung with mud. That's exactly where I give the keep digging sign to anybody. just give it to, since I don't have like a dog in the fight, I just give it to every, I point, Hey, hey, keep digging. so I, I did that. I didn't get to go down there for the heat. ⁓ no, I didn't get to go down there for. Corby Scherb: Is that where you get the shovel sign at? Jim Gardner: The whole field. Slim Pushins: I went up there with Rutherford. I didn't get to go down there because somebody else was hollering at me to push them off. So for the third heat, I did push somebody off. Lance Christie, I think, and headed off to the infield and I look around. Yeah. So I get down there, I look around, I'm the only guy down there. I told the entire field that you could watch from the infield. I get down there by myself, got run off. Jim Gardner: Sorry about your neck, Lance. you Hahaha! Slim Pushins: They ran, they were like, you can't watch from down here. And I was like, okay. So got right back. Corby Scherb: Adeline's pretty wild at exiting the racetrack ⁓ with the sprint car in gear. It's not the easiest place to get off the racetrack. It's super tight, super narrow. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Is it, is the sun's really bad there too down the front, isn't it? Yeah. Hot laps, hot laps. What's a sprint car? It's got a 50 inch wide. I was French cars six feet wide and that, that exit shoots seven feet wide. Slim Pushins: So yeah, down the front stretch, right at sunset. Corby Scherb: Terrible terrible you got to give it the old hand Yeah Slim Pushins: Kevin, Kevin Rutherford asked me, he was like, hey, he's holding his, he's holding his glasses in one hand and his sunglasses in the other. And he's like, hey, I think I'm going to go out with my glasses, but I want you to put these in your pocket. And I was like, I think you got the other way around. I was like, look over there. I was like, let's go out with, let's go, let's head to the shoot with sunglasses. And if you want your glasses. And I asked him when he came off and I was like, was that the move? And he was like, it's blinding. So. Corby Scherb: Yeah. It is. It is. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it's bad. Slim Pushins: But yeah, so I got run off. this make a wish kid made me, took me right back to Waco with Corby not getting on the four wheeler. was like, ⁓ all right, well I'll just head off. So, all right, well another semi exciting podcast, ⁓ brought to you by Stomp and Steer. It's, ⁓ it's just a lottery. If you go to Stomp and Steer, should be a lottery on what kind of pushing the cushion gear is available. Jim Gardner: ⁓ man. We appreciate everybody watching, listening. Thank you. I got stuff going on, I'm working on Slim Pushins: you're a busy guy I get it it's all good you can you can make it up to us by the wears Corby shirts at your leisure we'll get them on there anyway if you want to push in the cushion hat I know they're up on ⁓ stompandsteer.com ⁓ Jim Gardner: We'll see. Slim Pushins: We really appreciate y'all. I appreciate all the feedback that we get every week. I get a lot of texts, a lot of messages as I'm sure you, you too do also. So we really appreciate everybody being behind this stupid venture that Jim has conned both of us into. So, all right. Well, thanks again. Tune in next week for who knows? We'll see what we get into next week. Jim Gardner: Yeah, hopefully we have a guest next week. We're kind of like locked in on trying to get Claude and Claude's always got work on Tuesday nights. So now we're scrambling. we'll get I know well, because we can't dare do Wednesday or else Corby's whole Zen will be thrown off. Slim Pushins: We'll go, we'll... Corby Scherb: You know, can't change the nights. I'm like, getting there. Slim Pushins: Corby's just starting to get, he's just starting to get the hang of this and with the weed eater incident, he can't handle another one. Jim Gardner: Yeah Yeah, so hopefully guess next week ⁓ Corby Scherb: It was bad. It was bad. It was bad. Slim Pushins: We'll see who it is, maybe. Corby Scherb: Someone go rip at Kennedale and win. Someone go surprise us. Jim Gardner: Yeah, yeah, that'd be good. Won't be me. Slim Pushins: That would be cool. All right, y'all have a good one. Thanks for listening later