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Eight Very Weird Onboard UFO Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Thanks very
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Speaker 1: much for joining me today. I truly appreciate it. I
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Speaker 1: hope all of you are doing well out there. Very
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Speaker 1: excited about today's episode because I'm going to be talking
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Speaker 1: about onboard UFO encounters, which is my very favorite aspect
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Speaker 1: of UFO research. I like these cases because they contain
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Speaker 1: a lot of information. These are not simple sightings, even landings,
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Speaker 1: or face to face encounters with humanoids. In these cases,
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Speaker 1: people are actually going inside the extraterrestrial craft, meeting ets,
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Speaker 1: face to face, conversing with them. These cases lie the
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Speaker 1: very part the core of the UFO phenomenon. It's these
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Speaker 1: cases that really answer the many questions surrounding this subject,
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Speaker 1: such as who these ets are, where they come from,
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Speaker 1: and why they're here. I think these cases represent the
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Speaker 1: cutting edge of UFO research, and for that reason alone,
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Speaker 1: they're very important. So I've got eight cases for you today.
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Speaker 1: I call this episode eight very weird onboard UFO encounters.
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Speaker 1: They come from a wide variety of locations, including Australia, Portugal,
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Speaker 1: and six cases inside the United States, including Alabama, Maryland, Michigan, Nebraska, Texas,
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Speaker 1: and Virginia. These cases date from nineteen fifty one all
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Speaker 1: the way up to twenty fifteen. They do involve different
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Speaker 1: types of ets. There's physiological evidence as well, some landing
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Speaker 1: trace cases, and some really interesting psychic effects as well.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, these are more obscure cases. I'm guessing you
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Speaker 1: probably haven't heard of any of these. They are a
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Speaker 1: little bit different and unique and offbeat. I like these
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Speaker 1: kinds of cases because, again, they are unusual. I have
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Speaker 1: something to offer in terms of helping us to understand
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Speaker 1: what's going on here. So let's just get started. First
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Speaker 1: case i'd like to talk about today I call something
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Speaker 1: I'll Never forget. That is, of course, a direct quote
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Speaker 1: from the witness. This case was not recalled through hypnosis,
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Speaker 1: but rather spontaneously. This person did remember this experience shortly
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Speaker 1: after it happened. This occurred in the summer of nineteen
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Speaker 1: fifty one. It's a pretty early case, and it occurred
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Speaker 1: in the very small town of Louisa, Virginia. And I
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Speaker 1: think you'll find this case particularly interesting. Stephanie that as
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Speaker 1: the pseudonym, was only six years old when she was
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Speaker 1: taken on board a craft. At the time, she was
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Speaker 1: living in the small town of Louisa, Virginia. At that time,
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Speaker 1: the population was only about five hundred people. It was
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Speaker 1: a hot sunny day around noon in the summer of
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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty one. It was hardly any breeze, and Stephanie
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Speaker 1: was playing in her front yard. She was waiting for
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Speaker 1: her grandmother to call her in for lunch when a
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Speaker 1: ufo appeared at low elevation. Overhead, as Stephanie says, about
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Speaker 1: fifty to sixty feet above me, was a saucer shaped vehicle,
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Speaker 1: hovering and spinning. It caused all of the leaves on
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Speaker 1: the tree to fold and turn downward, as if trying
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Speaker 1: to avoid radiation or some sort of emissions. The saucer
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Speaker 1: hovered for about two minutes and tilted towards me. At
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Speaker 1: that time, it moved away from my yard and landed
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Speaker 1: behind some trees, blocking its view from my house. I
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Speaker 1: ran into the house and told my grandmother what I
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Speaker 1: had seen, and she just blew it off. Now, even
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Speaker 1: at that age, Stephanie knew that what she had seen
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Speaker 1: was unusual, but she didn't realize that this was just
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Speaker 1: the beginning of her encounter. She went into her room
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Speaker 1: and while her grandmother began to prepare lunch. Was during
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Speaker 1: this time when she looked outside and saw two strange humanoids.
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Speaker 1: As she says, I was sitting on my bed looking
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Speaker 1: out the window in the back of the house when
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Speaker 1: I saw the two beings passing along the outer edge
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Speaker 1: of our yard, beyond some peach trees. There were different heights.
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Speaker 1: One was half a head shorter than the other. One
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Speaker 1: of them was five feet tall and the other about
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Speaker 1: six feet maybe a little less. They seemed to be
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Speaker 1: wearing suits which were rouge red in color. They were
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Speaker 1: walking side by side and moved out of sight from
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Speaker 1: my window. So at this point Stephanie apparently experienced a
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Speaker 1: period of missing time, because the next thing she knew,
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Speaker 1: as if a switch had been flipped, was now ten PM.
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Speaker 1: She was missing almost ten hours of time, and as
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Speaker 1: Stephanie says, my grandmother and I were standing in the
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Speaker 1: kitchen in the dark, and lunch was still sitting on
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Speaker 1: the counter. When I realized I was home. There was
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Speaker 1: dried blood on my legs and feet. So it wasn't
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Speaker 1: long after this that Stephanie began to remember some of
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Speaker 1: what happened during this missing time. As she says, at
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Speaker 1: one point, I know I was in the saucer. It
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Speaker 1: had a window and I could see the road below.
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Speaker 1: I think we were over the Blue Ridge Mountains, which
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Speaker 1: were visible from our house. On a clear day. We
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Speaker 1: were hovering above a car traveling along a winding mountain road.
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Speaker 1: I was watching the headlights from the car flashing into
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Speaker 1: the woods as it went around curves. I think we
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Speaker 1: may have taken them, but I can't remember a lot.
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Speaker 1: I don't recall any words ever being spoken. But they
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Speaker 1: showed me lights off in the distance and said that
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Speaker 1: was where I lived. I had never been in a plane,
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Speaker 1: so watching that car below me was something I'll never
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Speaker 1: forget now. Following this encounter, Stephanie didn't think much about
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Speaker 1: it for a long time, but it was about nine
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Speaker 1: years later, at age fifteen, she went to visit a
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Speaker 1: doctor and this brought her memory back to this strange encounter.
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Speaker 1: Is about six years after it occurred, and as Stephanie says,
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Speaker 1: I had an exam by a gynecologist and I overheard
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Speaker 1: the doctor asking my mother who had done the surgery
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Speaker 1: on me. I had never had surgery or sex. I
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Speaker 1: thought back to that night of finding the blood on myself.
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Speaker 1: This has happened more than once, so I know they
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Speaker 1: have some sort of tracking device inside my body. I'm
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Speaker 1: now in Florida and they did some sort of scanning
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Speaker 1: on me. I have a lot of details. I would
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Speaker 1: even consent to hypnotherapy. I don't mind others knowing, but
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Speaker 1: the fact is most don't believe it if you tell them. So.
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Speaker 1: Stephanie did report her experience to Mouffon in twenty fourteen,
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Speaker 1: writing and I quote, I'm a sixty eight year old
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Speaker 1: and I am not a nutcase. I've never had any
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Speaker 1: mental problems. I have a friend who is an FBI agent,
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Speaker 1: and I gave him the written details as well. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for listen. As you can see, the witness is very
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Speaker 1: sincere about her experience, and the way she describes it,
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Speaker 1: you can tell it was quite emotional for her. It
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Speaker 1: was a very profound experience, and having ten hours of
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Speaker 1: missing time, it's clear to me she probably doesn't recall
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Speaker 1: everything that happened, but she recalls some and again, as
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Speaker 1: she said, this was something she never forgot. So this
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Speaker 1: just goes to show how an experience like this, even
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Speaker 1: early in childhood, can affect you for the rest of
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Speaker 1: your life. It's truly amazing. Now let's move to the
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Speaker 1: next case, which is equally astonishing and very unusual. It's
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Speaker 1: got some aspects to it that are only very rarely reported,
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Speaker 1: and I've got more to say about it, but I'll
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Speaker 1: talk about it afterwards, because I'd like you to make
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Speaker 1: up your own mind about the nature of this case.
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Speaker 1: At any rate, I call this one this can't be happening.
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Speaker 1: This occurred one evening in October nineteen, six seventy five,
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Speaker 1: in Rockville, Maryland. This is a single witness case. He
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Speaker 1: did recall this consciously, without the aid of hypnosis. I
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Speaker 1: think that's important because there are a lot of skeptics
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Speaker 1: out there who are saying, oh, onboard cases rest solely
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Speaker 1: on the recall through hypnosis, and that's simply not true.
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Speaker 1: So that aspect, I should say, makes this case really
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Speaker 1: interesting and important. And yeah, as we'll see, it's very unusual.
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Speaker 1: This onboard encounter was reported by the witness to Newfark,
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Speaker 1: the National UFO Reporting Center. He provided his first hand
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Speaker 1: written eyewitness testimony, starting by saying, this is something I
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Speaker 1: have only recently been willing to talk about. So he
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Speaker 1: reported his encounter in the hopes of finding other people
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Speaker 1: in the area who might have had a similar experience
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Speaker 1: around the same time. The witness is anonymous, I'll call
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Speaker 1: him Michael. He was nineteen years old when his encounter occurred.
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Speaker 1: It was one evening in October nineteen seventy five in
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Speaker 1: his house in Rockville, Maryland. As Michael says, I was
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Speaker 1: suddenly aware that I appeared to be outside of my
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Speaker 1: house and looking down at my house. I remember seeing
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Speaker 1: the roof of my house and the street below me.
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Speaker 1: I appeared to be floating above my house. Then I
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Speaker 1: saw the silvery side of a disc shaped classic flying saucer.
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Speaker 1: I was somehow transported and floated up into a classic
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Speaker 1: silver flying saucer. I clearly remember seeing the hall out
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Speaker 1: of the dark where the two ends converge. I was
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Speaker 1: absolutely stunned, thinking, what the this camp be happening. That
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Speaker 1: is a flying saucer. The thing was parked above our
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Speaker 1: house in the dark, but I could see it in
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Speaker 1: the dark. So the next thing, Michael knew he was
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Speaker 1: actually inside the craft. As he says, at the next instant,
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Speaker 1: I am inside. I see what appears to to be
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Speaker 1: an American human military man, a United States Air force
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Speaker 1: officer in full uniform. He had black hair, slightly overweight.
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Speaker 1: He seemed a little angry and was yelling at others.
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Speaker 1: I think I may have said something to this person
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Speaker 1: and he was mad. Because I was awake, I seemed
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Speaker 1: to be floated around inside what appeared to be the
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Speaker 1: outer perimeter of this craft and placed on some sort
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Speaker 1: of operating table. I didn't seem to be walking or
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Speaker 1: I couldn't feel my legs. I was transported to the
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Speaker 1: center of the craft and put on a table on
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Speaker 1: my back, and doctors surrounded me. Now, up until this point,
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Speaker 1: Michael was more astonished and confused than anything else, but
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Speaker 1: what happened next did cause him some fear, as he says,
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Speaker 1: I had the awareness that they were performing some sort
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Speaker 1: of brain operation. This caused me tons of mental and
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Speaker 1: spiritual discomfort, anguish, and fear. I felt that during this
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Speaker 1: time I was outside my body and was watching from
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Speaker 1: behind the surgeons. I was incredulous and shocked at this experience,
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Speaker 1: wondering at that time was this really real? Was it
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Speaker 1: really happening? I recalled hearing their voices, but I don't
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Speaker 1: know what they were saying. My mind seemed to be
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Speaker 1: cracked open. I can hear others conversing, but the words
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Speaker 1: are not understandable, but I can understand their communication among themselves.
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Speaker 1: So this seemed to Michael to go on for a
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Speaker 1: long period of time, and the next thing he knew,
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Speaker 1: he was waking up in bed. The next morning. He
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Speaker 1: immediately remembered what had happened, but was so shocked by
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Speaker 1: his recall that he really didn't know what to think
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Speaker 1: of it. As he says, I knew that there was
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Speaker 1: no way I could ever reveal this to anyone ever.
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Speaker 1: It was just too incredible. I was very scared of
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Speaker 1: the whole experience. I was shocked by it all. It
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Speaker 1: all had a very unreal feeling about it, but I
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Speaker 1: could not be sure. For the next thirty years or so,
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Speaker 1: I would never discuss this with a single soul. I
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Speaker 1: was too scared to admit it, for anyone would think
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Speaker 1: I was nuts. So although he considered at first that
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Speaker 1: it might have been a dream, he eventually had reasons
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Speaker 1: to believe it was real. As Michael says, my condition
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Speaker 1: was not at all what I would call normal. I
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Speaker 1: felt I wasn't simply dreaming. It didn't feel like a dream.
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Speaker 1: It had a very real aspect, yet I was sort
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Speaker 1: of out of touch with what was happening. I felt
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Speaker 1: like a bystander in a dream state. I seemed to
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Speaker 1: accept everything that happens, no matter how bizarre, as real.
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Speaker 1: But in this incident, and all during it, I was
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Speaker 1: continually rejecting it, thinking that is impossible, this can't be happening.
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Speaker 1: And as each level unfolded, I continued to be confounded
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Speaker 1: at the content. In short, I could evaluate which is
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Speaker 1: a higher order of thinking that is beyond dream awareness.
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Speaker 1: Now still, the experience was so bizarre that Michael wasn't
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Speaker 1: sure how to process it. At that time, there was
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Speaker 1: very little media coverage of this subject, so he simply
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Speaker 1: put it in the back of his mind and didn't
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Speaker 1: talk about it, didn't think about it. But it was
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Speaker 1: years later he picked up the book Communion by Whitley Strieber,
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Speaker 1: and reading all the details in that book that sounded
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Speaker 1: much like his own experience, he realized that quote it
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Speaker 1: may not have been a dream after all, and could
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Speaker 1: have been a real experience. There was one line he
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Speaker 1: read in the book where Whitley was describing the feeling
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Speaker 1: that ETS may have implanted something in his brain and
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Speaker 1: for Michael, this was the last straw. As he says,
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Speaker 1: that realization that my experience may have been true was
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Speaker 1: almost too much to handle. That solidified for me that
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Speaker 1: it may indeed be real. After that, I was a
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Speaker 1: for the next year or so trying to accept this
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Speaker 1: as reality. Now, as the subject continued to move into
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Speaker 1: the mainstream media, Michael eventually learned to accept what had
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Speaker 1: happened to him, and he was able to talk about
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Speaker 1: it without too much distress. Then one day something interesting happened.
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Speaker 1: He came upon the photo of General Curtis LeMay and
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Speaker 1: was shocked to see that this man looked almost exactly
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Speaker 1: like the man he had seen on board the craft,
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Speaker 1: the military officer, so much so that he speculated that
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Speaker 1: they might be one and the same. Overall, while the
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Speaker 1: experience was disconcerting and scary at the time, he's now
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Speaker 1: okay with it, and as he says, I have since
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Speaker 1: reconciled this. I was apparently unharmed, just a bit freaked out.
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Speaker 1: As we say, I wanted to report it officially somewhere
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Speaker 1: so we can go into the record. I don't have
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Speaker 1: any recollection of anything like this happening to me before
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Speaker 1: or I think there are some real important takeaways from
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Speaker 1: that case. One is how the witness really struggled to
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Speaker 1: accept what was happening to him. Could this have been
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Speaker 1: a dream or was it real? Or was he going crazy?
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Speaker 1: These are the sort of struggles a lot of witnesses
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Speaker 1: go through following an onboard UFO encounter. It's very difficult
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Speaker 1: to process at times, especially if nothing like this has
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Speaker 1: ever happened to you before. To me, the most interesting
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Speaker 1: aspect of this case is that he recalls seeing what
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Speaker 1: he believes to be a military officer on board, which
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Speaker 1: really raises the possibility that this was a my lab
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Speaker 1: a military abduction. Not really ets at all. Very hard
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Speaker 1: to say for sure, but it certainly has some of
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Speaker 1: the markers we see with my labs in terms of
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Speaker 1: there being a military officer on board. Also interesting to
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Speaker 1: me is that he believes he identified this terry officer
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Speaker 1: as Curtis LeMay. I found that fascinating because Curtis LeMay
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Speaker 1: has been implicated as knowing about UFOs. He did come
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Speaker 1: up in a prior episode I did, so I found
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Speaker 1: that to be a really interesting and unusual detail. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if this was a my lab or not.
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Speaker 1: You can make up your own mind about it, but
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Speaker 1: certainly sounds like a legitimate case. However you explain it
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Speaker 1: as a genuine et encounter or something else. And also
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Speaker 1: interesting to me is how he got confirmation years later
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Speaker 1: after reading the book Communion. I can't tell you how
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Speaker 1: many people I've talked to who picked up that book
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Speaker 1: and were really shaken up because it had details or
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Speaker 1: the picture on the cover, which really confirmed to them
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Speaker 1: that they were having these kinds of encounters. Amazing. So
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Speaker 1: now let's move to the next case. This one's also
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Speaker 1: really unusual, and this was also recalled consciously without the
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Speaker 1: aid of hypnosis. Important I call this one I cannot
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Speaker 1: reveal what I saw. That is a direct quote from
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Speaker 1: the witness. As we'll soon see, this occurred over a
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Speaker 1: period of time in involving several incidents from nineteen seventy
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Speaker 1: seven to nineteen seventy nine in Funchal, Portugal. This is
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Speaker 1: on the island of Madera, a pretty small island actually,
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Speaker 1: but pretty heavily populated, and this case has some very
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Speaker 1: strange elements to it, one of the most interesting being
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Speaker 1: that the witness claims he was taken to the ET's planet.
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Speaker 1: This case comes from researcher Pedro Barbosa, PhD, who interviewed
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Speaker 1: the witness personally. Per Pedro, the witness was very confident
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Speaker 1: about the reality of his experiences. He was honest and
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Speaker 1: related with considerable emotion. The witness is anonymous, so I've
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Speaker 1: given him the pseudonym Gustavo. He was nineteen years old
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Speaker 1: at the time of his encounter and lived on the
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Speaker 1: small island of Madera that's about two hundred and eighty
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Speaker 1: six square miles of area, and he was in the
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Speaker 1: city of Funchal. His first encounter occurred around five point
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Speaker 1: thirty a m. One morning in December of nineteen seventy seven.
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Speaker 1: As Gustavo says, I began to hear a fantastic sound.
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Speaker 1: A light opened up in my room. I looked up
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Speaker 1: and saw a large and fantastic flying saucer. Then a
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Speaker 1: voice spoke. It was an extraterrestrial being speaking in barely
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Speaker 1: comprehensible Brazilian and said, among other things, do not fear
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Speaker 1: death because God created terrestrial and extraterrestrial beings with spirit
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Speaker 1: her Gustavo. During the whole time the craft was hovering
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Speaker 1: outside his window. He was completely paralyzed. The episode lasted
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Speaker 1: only a few minutes, and as the light faded and
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Speaker 1: the craft left, he was able to move. And this
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Speaker 1: turned out to be the first of several strange episodes
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Speaker 1: because it was only eight months later in August of
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, he was driving back to Gunchal, east
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Speaker 1: of the city and he saw a large quote flying
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Speaker 1: saucer hovering over the pinocular viewpoint, which you can see here.
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Speaker 1: But it was five months later, at five thirty a m.
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Speaker 1: One morning in the first week of January nineteen seventy nine,
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Speaker 1: that he says he was visited in his bedroom by
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Speaker 1: a human looking female extraterrestrial. As Gustavo says, I was
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Speaker 1: in my room when I saw an extraterrestrial woman who
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Speaker 1: signaled to me with her hand, and she smiled and left.
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Speaker 1: So it was a brief experience, but his most amazing
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Speaker 1: encounter happened just a few days later. On January eighth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine, he suddenly woke up to find himself
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Speaker 1: standing on the ground in front of a classic flying saucer.
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Speaker 1: It had opening in the center and a ramp extending
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Speaker 1: to the ground, and as Gustavo says, it seemed to
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Speaker 1: be made of light. I don't know what it was like.
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Speaker 1: I can't explain it. He climbed up the ramp, went
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Speaker 1: into the craft, which he found out was quite large
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Speaker 1: on the inside, and as Gustavo says, I saw them again,
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Speaker 1: they took me. The interior was full of buttons, and
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Speaker 1: it had windows that looked like televisions. The interior was
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Speaker 1: cloud white. In that room were four UFOs. They gave
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Speaker 1: me a gentle push to enter. I sat in a chair,
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Speaker 1: and when we left, the one speaking to me said,
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Speaker 1: take another chair in front of the window to see
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Speaker 1: the world and the planet. I saw our world, our
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Speaker 1: planet from a great distance, and I disembarked in another civilization.
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Speaker 1: They spoke to me in English, now imperfect, but understandable.
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Speaker 1: I could tell they were learned. Now. Gustavo said that
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Speaker 1: Etis looked human and were quote extremely beautiful. He said
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Speaker 1: they wore tight fitting, pale yellow jumpsuits and darker colored boots.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't really remember anything else from that encounter, or
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Speaker 1: if he does, he didn't share it. But on February
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Speaker 1: eighth he had his final experience, and he said it
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Speaker 1: was taken to their planet again. As Gustavo says, it
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Speaker 1: is an ultra modern civilization. When I entered the other world,
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Speaker 1: their world, I was so impressed that I cannot reveal
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Speaker 1: what I saw. It is not appropriate to reveal what
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Speaker 1: I saw. They live a few thousand years ahead of us.
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Speaker 1: They told me while I was still on board, our
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Speaker 1: planet is very close to yours earth, but it takes
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Speaker 1: a long time for you to get there. What that
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Speaker 1: means is hard to say, but Gustavo did say that
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Speaker 1: he was given a quote medical examination while he was
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Speaker 1: on board the craft. As he said, they checked my health.
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Speaker 1: They had something in their hand round like a little tube,
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Speaker 1: which they passed all over my body. The people there
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Speaker 1: seemed to have no illnesses. His onboard encounter lasted, he estimates,
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Speaker 1: about four hours after he was returned home. He said
22:18
Speaker 1: he felt dizzy, was tingling all over his body, especially
22:22
Speaker 1: his face, and he says he was also shivering from
22:25
Speaker 1: the cold. And it was for some time following his
22:28
Speaker 1: encounter that he refused to speak about it to anyone,
22:31
Speaker 1: because he knew that anyone he told would likely consider
22:35
Speaker 1: him a lunatic or insane. I would really love to
22:39
Speaker 1: speak firsthand to this witness face to face, because I
22:43
Speaker 1: suspect there is a lot more detail to what he experienced.
22:48
Speaker 1: But like many people, he initially kept his encounter's secret.
22:52
Speaker 1: And who can blame him. There's so much gaslighting and
22:55
Speaker 1: ridicule and skepticism, confusion, and fear surrounding this subject. Vast
23:00
Speaker 1: majority of people simply don't talk about it. I'm glad
23:04
Speaker 1: he did come forward and speak to investigators, but yeah,
23:08
Speaker 1: I am sure you could write a whole book about
23:11
Speaker 1: what this gentleman experienced. So not a lot of people
23:14
Speaker 1: who claim to have been taken to an et planet,
23:17
Speaker 1: so that is particularly fascinating. I also find it interesting
23:22
Speaker 1: that he says he cannot reveal everything that he saw.
23:26
Speaker 1: It's not clear to me whether this is because he
23:28
Speaker 1: simply doesn't have the words to describe it, that it
23:31
Speaker 1: was just so out of his world view what he knows,
23:37
Speaker 1: or if he felt like some of this knowledge should
23:40
Speaker 1: be just kept secret. There's a number of cases that
23:43
Speaker 1: do seem to follow this kind of pattern that witnesses
23:47
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about what they saw because it's
23:50
Speaker 1: private for them, or they are told not to reveal
23:54
Speaker 1: certain bits of information. Overall a pretty fascinating Casey, I
24:00
Speaker 1: wish I had more detail on it. I wish that
24:03
Speaker 1: with pretty much every case, I should say like this
24:06
Speaker 1: next one. I think this next case is absolutely legitimate.
24:11
Speaker 1: It has a lot of the details I look for
24:13
Speaker 1: and trying to confirm whether an encounter israel. I call
24:17
Speaker 1: this one a warning of things to come. This one
24:20
Speaker 1: occurred in February of nineteen ninety in Texas, and again
24:26
Speaker 1: this was consciously recalled, not through hypnosis, but I will
24:30
Speaker 1: say it was apparently buried in amnesia for a very
24:34
Speaker 1: long time and only came back into the witnesses memory
24:38
Speaker 1: years after it happened. This is again another pattern we
24:42
Speaker 1: see and as we'll see, Yeah, it's got some details
24:45
Speaker 1: to it that I think mark this as an important
24:49
Speaker 1: and genuine case. In twenty nineteen, as an adult, Gavin
24:55
Speaker 1: that is a pseudonym, began having strange flashbacks and memories
24:59
Speaker 1: of weird encounters that he had when he was just
25:02
Speaker 1: a young child living in his parents' home in Texas
25:06
Speaker 1: back in the early nineteen nineties, and he believes it
25:09
Speaker 1: was around February of nineteen ninety when he was actually
25:13
Speaker 1: taken onboard a craft and met extraterrestrial beings face to face.
25:18
Speaker 1: The experience began when he felt a strange floating sensation,
25:22
Speaker 1: as if being on a cloud is how he described it.
25:25
Speaker 1: And then suddenly he found himself in a brightly lit area.
25:29
Speaker 1: He was unable to move anything except his eyes, but
25:32
Speaker 1: he looked around and, as Gavin says, I remember eventually
25:37
Speaker 1: seeing three beings. They were human like in appearance, similar
25:41
Speaker 1: facial features, short but not tall. The primary being was
25:46
Speaker 1: in front of me, several feet away, the second was
25:49
Speaker 1: to my right side, and the third was behind me.
25:53
Speaker 1: Now Gavin soon learned that he had been brought on
25:55
Speaker 1: board for a purpose, and the purposes appeared to be
25:59
Speaker 1: being shown and warned about future events that were to
26:03
Speaker 1: soon take place on our planet. As he says, they
26:07
Speaker 1: started to show me future events on this floating moving
26:11
Speaker 1: monitors to the front left side of me. The monitors
26:15
Speaker 1: were kind of like twenty six inches or so, like
26:18
Speaker 1: television screens, but without the trim and buttons. There were many.
26:23
Speaker 1: They were moving left to right, almost like on an
26:26
Speaker 1: invisible floating conveyor belt. Now, the images shown to Gavin
26:31
Speaker 1: were both concerning and alarming. They appeared to show various
26:35
Speaker 1: calamities facing all of humanity in the future. As Gavin says,
26:41
Speaker 1: I recall seeing natural disasters, disease and famine, pain and suffering,
26:46
Speaker 1: blood being shed, wars between nations that led to World
26:50
Speaker 1: War III death and destruction. These events were not like
26:54
Speaker 1: on a timestamp or anything. It was like icon visuals
26:58
Speaker 1: or markers in time. I recall being very emotional and
27:02
Speaker 1: thinking and asking why is this happening, what and where?
27:07
Speaker 1: I remember getting answers back telepathically from the primary being
27:12
Speaker 1: in front of me, and the being told me that
27:14
Speaker 1: I was safe and not to worry that I was okay.
27:18
Speaker 1: I know there was more to this conversation telepathically, but
27:22
Speaker 1: I still cannot recall at all with like they were
27:25
Speaker 1: warning me of things to come now. Gavin believes there
27:29
Speaker 1: may have been more events that occurred, but the next
27:31
Speaker 1: thing he remembers is waking up on the lazy boy
27:34
Speaker 1: recliner in his living room, curled up, with no memory
27:38
Speaker 1: of how he had gotten there. At the time, he
27:40
Speaker 1: assumed that he must have slept walk But years later,
27:44
Speaker 1: when he was in his late teens and early adulthood,
27:47
Speaker 1: he did become aware of the presence of a small
27:50
Speaker 1: oval shaped foreign body lodged between his lower right jawbone
27:54
Speaker 1: and skin. He was actually able to physically move it
27:58
Speaker 1: around slightly without any pain. It felt to him like
28:01
Speaker 1: it was covered with some sort of thin coating, so
28:04
Speaker 1: this appears to be an implant of some kind. But
28:07
Speaker 1: at this point he totally forgot about this object, and
28:11
Speaker 1: it wasn't until twenty nineteen when his memory of his
28:15
Speaker 1: childhood encounter began to return to him, and was partially
28:19
Speaker 1: because he started to see things happening in the world
28:22
Speaker 1: that he had been warned about during his onboard encounter.
28:26
Speaker 1: As Gavin says, when it comes to certain events and
28:30
Speaker 1: timelines as a marker, it is like I know what
28:33
Speaker 1: is happening before it happens. It is hard to describe
28:36
Speaker 1: the feelings you get knowing that stuff like before it happens,
28:40
Speaker 1: and then you see it or hear about it on
28:42
Speaker 1: the television or a news article. For example, I knew
28:46
Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth was going to pass away in twenty twenty two.
28:50
Speaker 1: I knew there would be the end of the pope's
28:52
Speaker 1: reign before the former pope recently passed away. Among other
28:56
Speaker 1: events that have recently happened or eventually will happen. I
29:00
Speaker 1: hope not though, but on our current course, it is
29:04
Speaker 1: happening the way I was shown the events. All these
29:07
Speaker 1: events are like a marker in time. That is the
29:10
Speaker 1: best way for me to describe it. It's kind of
29:13
Speaker 1: like opening Pandora's box. You want to close it, but
29:17
Speaker 1: you cannot. The events are pretty detailed or descriptive in
29:21
Speaker 1: my mind still and are as real as when the
29:24
Speaker 1: three beings showed them to me to this day. If
29:28
Speaker 1: I really think about the events, I get emotional. So
29:31
Speaker 1: while the entire encounter and the information the beings shared
29:35
Speaker 1: were concerning, Kevin ultimately feels it was a benevolent encounter,
29:40
Speaker 1: as he says, I felt like the three beings were
29:44
Speaker 1: more like us than not, and that they cared about
29:47
Speaker 1: us genuinely and had compassion. You can only imagine what
29:51
Speaker 1: it's like to have an experience like that where ets
29:54
Speaker 1: are showing you basically what amount to future events and
29:58
Speaker 1: then having them happen. This does turn up in quite
30:02
Speaker 1: a few cases, so that is really interesting, and it
30:06
Speaker 1: shows once again that one of the reasons ets contact
30:09
Speaker 1: people is to basically warn them about the fact that
30:14
Speaker 1: we are on a pathway towards self destruction. I mean,
30:18
Speaker 1: that's undeniable. We can see it happening right before our
30:21
Speaker 1: very eyes, and ets are doing their best to warn
30:26
Speaker 1: us about these kinds of events. And it's very consistent
30:31
Speaker 1: regardless of what type of ets people are seeing. So
30:35
Speaker 1: I think that is an important and very prominent pattern
30:39
Speaker 1: of UFO contact that really speaks to why they're here.
30:42
Speaker 1: I also plant interesting that this witness, although he was
30:45
Speaker 1: frightened at times, felt that this was a purely benevolent experience,
30:49
Speaker 1: that these ets were very much like us, more like
30:53
Speaker 1: us than different, and he felt they were very loving
30:56
Speaker 1: and compassionate. So I think that's it a very encouraging detail.
31:03
Speaker 1: So now let's move to the next case, which is
31:05
Speaker 1: a little bit darker, a little bit scarier. I call
31:08
Speaker 1: this one. I have never been so afraid in all
31:12
Speaker 1: my life. This one occurred in October nineteen ninety. Now
31:17
Speaker 1: I'm a little sketchy on the date here. It's possible
31:19
Speaker 1: it was the nineteen seventies. I'm unclear about the exact
31:23
Speaker 1: date here, but I don't suppose that's terribly important. It
31:27
Speaker 1: did occur in Australia. There's a city or a town
31:32
Speaker 1: called the Entrance in New South Wales. It's a coastal
31:36
Speaker 1: town that's where this case occurred. It is a single
31:39
Speaker 1: witness case, but the witness did identify herself. We know
31:44
Speaker 1: who she is, and very interestingly, she's actually a very
31:48
Speaker 1: famous psychic. That's another pattern we see. Ets seem to
31:53
Speaker 1: be very attracted or often contact people who have profound
31:58
Speaker 1: psychic abilities, and this one is an unusual case for sure.
32:02
Speaker 1: This next case comes from astrologer Gary Wiseman, who published
32:06
Speaker 1: the case in his column in the Australian People magazine,
32:10
Speaker 1: and it also appeared in the International UFO Journal in
32:13
Speaker 1: an article by Australian researcher Bill Chalker, who followed up
32:18
Speaker 1: on the article and spoke firsthand to the witness. The
32:22
Speaker 1: witness is a famous Australian clavoine and psychic by the
32:26
Speaker 1: name of Winnifred Krauss. At the time of her encounter
32:30
Speaker 1: in October nineteen ninety, she lived in a city called
32:34
Speaker 1: The Entrance. This is located along the eastern coast in
32:37
Speaker 1: New South Wales, Australia. Her experience began in the middle
32:41
Speaker 1: of the night and as Winnifred says, I'll tell you
32:45
Speaker 1: what happened. I was in bed. I didn't know if
32:48
Speaker 1: I was dreaming or what it was, but suddenly I
32:51
Speaker 1: was absolutely petrified, absolutely terrified. I had never been so
32:56
Speaker 1: afraid in all my life. I was shaking my head husband,
33:00
Speaker 1: and in my mind's eye, I could see outside, and
33:03
Speaker 1: I could see them all around, shortish creatures they were.
33:07
Speaker 1: I was absolutely besides myself. Now. Her husband woke up
33:12
Speaker 1: and turned to her and said, oh, I want to
33:15
Speaker 1: get up and go out, And she turned to him
33:18
Speaker 1: and said, no, you mustn't move, stay with me. And
33:22
Speaker 1: the next thing she knew, she found herself somehow transported
33:25
Speaker 1: to a different place. As Winnifred says, what happened was
33:30
Speaker 1: that I was taken up. I was in this place,
33:33
Speaker 1: there were people sitting around. Was all very clinical. They
33:37
Speaker 1: were sort of in a semitrance state, if you like.
33:41
Speaker 1: They had me on a bed. It was like a
33:43
Speaker 1: proper medical aluminum bed. They were sort of pummeling me.
33:47
Speaker 1: They had slanted eyes and silver outfits. They were sort
33:51
Speaker 1: of communicating to one another with this strange sound. They
33:54
Speaker 1: treated me as if I was a bug on a table,
33:57
Speaker 1: that's all, As though I was just above. They were
34:01
Speaker 1: pummeling my stomach and everything, and I was saying, well,
34:04
Speaker 1: you don't have to be so cruel. Can't we be
34:07
Speaker 1: friends that sort of thing. They just didn't take any
34:10
Speaker 1: notice of me at all, and I was really really
34:13
Speaker 1: terribly upset. Now, per Winifred, the beings were about one
34:18
Speaker 1: point three meters tall, that's just over four feet. The
34:22
Speaker 1: sounds of the beings made, she said, reminded her of
34:25
Speaker 1: insect noises. Suddenly, without warning, she found herself back in bed,
34:31
Speaker 1: very confused about what had just happened, and she says
34:35
Speaker 1: that was when I thought, oh, I've dreamt it. But
34:39
Speaker 1: I could not have dreamt it. It was just so
34:41
Speaker 1: terrible an experience. But soon it became apparent to her
34:45
Speaker 1: that the experience was real, because that morning she felt
34:48
Speaker 1: very sore in her stomach area, and the reality of
34:52
Speaker 1: the encounter was further confirmed when she decided later to
34:56
Speaker 1: undergo hypnotic regression. As Winnifred said, I went under her
35:01
Speaker 1: hypnosis and went through the whole thing, and it was terrifying,
35:05
Speaker 1: absolutely terrifying, and it was stronger. I think it was
35:09
Speaker 1: more terrified under hypnosis than in the beginning, because it
35:12
Speaker 1: was clearer. Winnifred says that one of the people she
35:16
Speaker 1: saw on board the craft in a trance was actually
35:20
Speaker 1: her sister. So Winnifred asked her sister if she had
35:23
Speaker 1: any memory of anything like this, but of course she didn't,
35:28
Speaker 1: nor did Winnifred's husband see anything unusual that night that
35:31
Speaker 1: he can recall. But there is another interesting after effect
35:35
Speaker 1: of the encounter, which was a pronounced increase in Winnifred's
35:39
Speaker 1: psychic abilities. As she says, it did. I have been
35:44
Speaker 1: doing this work for a long time, but it really did.
35:47
Speaker 1: It was very strong, very profound. Actually, Winnifred eventually became
35:52
Speaker 1: a very well known clairvoyant psychic, appearing in magazines and
35:57
Speaker 1: on radios and television and providing read to many people
36:01
Speaker 1: all over the world. Interestingly, she also invented a metaphysical
36:06
Speaker 1: board game that was quite popular, was called the Cosmic
36:10
Speaker 1: z and its purpose was to help people to achieve
36:13
Speaker 1: a higher level of awareness, enlightenment, and illumination. That case
36:18
Speaker 1: is definitely a little different. She felt very little compassion
36:23
Speaker 1: coming from the ets, but then again, she admitted that
36:26
Speaker 1: she was very, very afraid, and we know that fear
36:31
Speaker 1: can definitely alter a person's perception of events. When someone
36:36
Speaker 1: is in pure panic. It's very difficult to objectively observe
36:41
Speaker 1: what's going on, but it was her experience. She knows
36:44
Speaker 1: better than anyone else what happened to her. I did
36:47
Speaker 1: find it interesting that she saw her sister on board
36:50
Speaker 1: the craft and other people who were apparently in a trance.
36:54
Speaker 1: That's very interesting to me. Also interesting to me is
36:59
Speaker 1: that she says her psychic abilities increased sharply following this experience.
37:05
Speaker 1: And what did she end up doing, creating this popular
37:08
Speaker 1: metaphysical board game that helps people to advance their own
37:12
Speaker 1: psychic abilities. I am speculating here, but I suspect that
37:17
Speaker 1: this might have been deliberate and that the ETS knew
37:21
Speaker 1: this would happen and contacted her because this is one
37:24
Speaker 1: of their agentas to really wake people up to their
37:28
Speaker 1: own psychic abilities. So that, I think makes this case
37:32
Speaker 1: very important. That and the fact that we do know
37:34
Speaker 1: who the witness is. And again, for each person who's
37:38
Speaker 1: come forward, it is probably one hundred or more who
37:41
Speaker 1: have not come forward, So it's far more common, for
37:45
Speaker 1: sure than most people have any idea of. So now
37:50
Speaker 1: let's move to the next case. Also super fascinating. I
37:54
Speaker 1: call this one. You don't have anything to fear from us.
37:58
Speaker 1: This one occurred on March ten, nineteen ninety six, in Omaha, Nebraska,
38:04
Speaker 1: to a teenage student, a high school student, and this
38:10
Speaker 1: was to him a purely benevolent encounter. It's really a
38:14
Speaker 1: fascinating case in which a person was taken on board
38:19
Speaker 1: and spoke with what appeared to be gray ets. On
38:22
Speaker 1: the evening of March tenth, nineteen ninety six, Morris, that
38:25
Speaker 1: is a pseudonym, was staying at a small residential farm
38:29
Speaker 1: outside the main campus of Boystown. This is in Omaha, Nebraska.
38:34
Speaker 1: He was in high school at the time. He and
38:37
Speaker 1: some of the other younger kids from other houses in
38:39
Speaker 1: the area were out shooting basketball hoops. Now, Morris at
38:44
Speaker 1: that time had developed an interest in UFOs. He enjoyed
38:47
Speaker 1: reading about the subject and watching shows on TV, and
38:51
Speaker 1: he was objectively weighing the credibility of the available evidence
38:55
Speaker 1: to see what was true and what wasn't. Now, on
38:58
Speaker 1: this particular night, he had brought out his telescope and
39:02
Speaker 1: was watching the newly visible hail Bob Comet, and it
39:05
Speaker 1: was then that a UFO appeared. Was nine fifteen p m. And,
39:10
Speaker 1: as Morris says, all of a sudden, out of the
39:14
Speaker 1: corner of my eye, I caught a glimpse of an
39:16
Speaker 1: object that was hovering slightly above the tree top and
39:19
Speaker 1: made almost no noise whatsoever except light wind blowing. I
39:24
Speaker 1: stayed outside watching this object, wanting to see what it
39:28
Speaker 1: would do. I felt quite at ease with the situation.
39:32
Speaker 1: It then started to randomly pulse lights around the side
39:34
Speaker 1: of the craft, as if it was trying to communicate
39:37
Speaker 1: with me, telling me to come closer, which I did.
39:41
Speaker 1: At that time, a light came down from the center
39:43
Speaker 1: of the craft, now staring face to face with what
39:47
Speaker 1: I believe was a roswell gray being. Now by this time,
39:51
Speaker 1: Morris had done enough research to be familiar with gray aliens,
39:56
Speaker 1: and as Morris says, it had all the characteristics, from
40:00
Speaker 1: the slender body, to the long gray arms, to the
40:03
Speaker 1: pear shaped head to the oval eyes. At this point
40:07
Speaker 1: I started to feel ringing in my ears. It was
40:10
Speaker 1: like we were talking, but at the same time no
40:13
Speaker 1: words were coming out of my mouth, which to me
40:15
Speaker 1: at the time felt really weird. Was at this point
40:19
Speaker 1: that I felt my body being lifted off the ground
40:22
Speaker 1: and taken into the craft, where I proceeded to encounter
40:25
Speaker 1: other beings just like the first one. One was really
40:28
Speaker 1: a lot taller than the other ones. I called him
40:31
Speaker 1: the captain because he seemed to be running the show.
40:35
Speaker 1: I remember talking to multiple beings and they all seemed
40:38
Speaker 1: like they were not here to harm us, but more
40:40
Speaker 1: to observe. As the beings were talking in their own
40:44
Speaker 1: way of communication. They took me around the craft, showing
40:47
Speaker 1: me all their different technologies that they had been using.
40:51
Speaker 1: And at this point in the encounter, the captain said
40:54
Speaker 1: to me, and I still remember this to this day,
40:57
Speaker 1: we are real roswell did actually happened. The captain then
41:02
Speaker 1: proceeded to say in I guess you would call it telepathy.
41:06
Speaker 1: We will be looking in time to time on you. Now.
41:09
Speaker 1: That proved to be the end of Morris's onboard encounter.
41:12
Speaker 1: That's all he could remember. He was quickly returned in
41:16
Speaker 1: some manner that he cannot recall, back to the ground,
41:19
Speaker 1: And as Morris says, after the captain said this, I
41:22
Speaker 1: was back on the ground with the first being I
41:25
Speaker 1: had encountered. It seemed to say, in its way, now
41:28
Speaker 1: you know why we are here. You don't have anything
41:32
Speaker 1: to fear from us. It then put up one of
41:34
Speaker 1: its arms in a peaceful manner, as if it was
41:37
Speaker 1: saying bye to me for now. I then looked up
41:40
Speaker 1: and it was gone. At this point, Morris felt a
41:43
Speaker 1: tap on his shoulder. He turned around and it was
41:46
Speaker 1: the house leader who was looking for him and asked
41:49
Speaker 1: him if everything was okay. Morris, at this point was
41:53
Speaker 1: overcome with this feeling of peace and calm and replied,
41:57
Speaker 1: everything is okay. But as it turned out, there were
42:01
Speaker 1: some strange events still in progress, because on several occasions afterwards,
42:06
Speaker 1: he started to notice unmarked black cars following him around,
42:10
Speaker 1: and having heard of men in black, he wondered if
42:12
Speaker 1: this was what was happening to him. Now. After he
42:16
Speaker 1: graduated high school and moved back to his home state
42:18
Speaker 1: of Kansas, there were no more visitations by these mysterious
42:22
Speaker 1: men in black. I would love to do a follow
42:25
Speaker 1: up with this witness because it's rare that a person
42:28
Speaker 1: has just one experience, a one off. I really wonder
42:31
Speaker 1: if he perhaps had experiences as a younger child, or
42:36
Speaker 1: perhaps other experiences following this onboard encounter. It's also interesting
42:42
Speaker 1: to me that he was followed by what he believes
42:44
Speaker 1: to be men in black or government agents. Not unusual.
42:48
Speaker 1: I know many cases of contactees who deal with surveillance
42:52
Speaker 1: and being followed by government agents, and this sort of
42:55
Speaker 1: thing a really amazing case because he did I didn't
43:00
Speaker 1: feel a lot of fear and actually had a pretty
43:03
Speaker 1: interesting and benevolent encounter. So now let's move to the
43:07
Speaker 1: next case, which was also per the witness, a pretty
43:11
Speaker 1: benevolent encounter and again not recalled through hypnosis. You'll notice
43:16
Speaker 1: that none of these cases involve hypnosis. So here's another one.
43:21
Speaker 1: This one occurred. I call this case an incredible amount
43:25
Speaker 1: of love. This one occurred in December fifteenth, twenty twelve,
43:30
Speaker 1: in Auburn, Alabama. And this is another experience which took
43:37
Speaker 1: place in the middle of the night, and the Whinness
43:39
Speaker 1: really struggled with wondering could this have been a dream
43:42
Speaker 1: or not? But as we'll see, she found reasons to
43:45
Speaker 1: believe that this was not a dream but really happened.
43:50
Speaker 1: This case was reported by Cheryl that is a pseudonym.
43:54
Speaker 1: She wants to be anonymous, but she reported it firsthand.
43:57
Speaker 1: To move on the mutual ufome, she always had vague
44:02
Speaker 1: memories of having strange experiences as a child, but never
44:06
Speaker 1: was really able to pinpoint anything or remember any actual details.
44:11
Speaker 1: But she had recently been experiencing quote a deep fascination
44:15
Speaker 1: with UFO phenomena questioning of reality, and a deep spiritual awakening.
44:22
Speaker 1: So her experience occurred at around three point thirty a m.
44:25
Speaker 1: On December fifteen, twenty twelve, while she was in her
44:29
Speaker 1: home in Auburn, Alabama, and it started with what she
44:32
Speaker 1: initially believed was the dream. Now, Cheryl says, I felt
44:37
Speaker 1: as if I was dreaming and I was back in
44:40
Speaker 1: my childhood home several miles from where I actually was
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Speaker 1: in the dream. I woke up and wandered outside, as
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Speaker 1: if I was being called to do so. I was
44:50
Speaker 1: then in my former neighbour's front yard. There was a
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Speaker 1: silver disk with three very beautiful human like beings. One
44:57
Speaker 1: felt male and the other two fell female. This was
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Speaker 1: a sort of telepathic feeling. I just sensed who they were,
45:05
Speaker 1: and they felt familiar to me, almost like meeting long
45:08
Speaker 1: lost relatives. They emanated an incredible feeling of peace and
45:13
Speaker 1: love and other things that I just cannot put into
45:16
Speaker 1: words now. At this point they were standing outside the craft.
45:20
Speaker 1: But the next thing, Cheryl knew she was being taken
45:23
Speaker 1: on board as she says, they ushered me into the craft.
45:28
Speaker 1: We ascended straight up. I don't really know what was
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Speaker 1: going on outside the craft, although it did not ascend
45:34
Speaker 1: by any means we know today. The craft itself was
45:38
Speaker 1: operated by one of the female beings. The craft seemed
45:41
Speaker 1: to know her. The male and other females sat on
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Speaker 1: either side of me, and we had a deep conversation
45:48
Speaker 1: about life, existence and our purpose here on earth. We
45:52
Speaker 1: then arrived wherever we were, I have no idea where again,
45:56
Speaker 1: it just felt familiar. We exited the craft and we
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Speaker 1: were inside of a building. There were many more beings
46:03
Speaker 1: of the same type. The area was large, very beautiful
46:07
Speaker 1: and bright. There was an enormous sitting area where we
46:11
Speaker 1: continued to discuss very deep subject matters. The other entities
46:16
Speaker 1: were also communicating. It was like a council or a meeting.
46:20
Speaker 1: I felt such an incredible amount of love that I
46:23
Speaker 1: did not want to leave. Suddenly, they told me that
46:26
Speaker 1: I had to come back, that I would be okay,
46:29
Speaker 1: that they would always be with me. Now that appeared
46:32
Speaker 1: to be the end of the experience. As charl says,
46:36
Speaker 1: I suddenly woke in bed. I dismissed it as a
46:39
Speaker 1: lovely dream. Cheryl did share this with her husband, but
46:43
Speaker 1: with no one else, and it wasn't long afterwards that
46:47
Speaker 1: she had reason to think that this experience might have
46:49
Speaker 1: been more than just a dream, and that it might
46:52
Speaker 1: have actually happened exactly as she remembered. As Cheryl says,
46:57
Speaker 1: a couple of days later, while checking my mailbox, I
47:00
Speaker 1: noticed a circular pattern in the grass in my front yard.
47:04
Speaker 1: The grass was bent over, much like he would see
47:06
Speaker 1: in a crop circle. I asked my husband what it was,
47:10
Speaker 1: and he had no idea. Then I realized that the
47:13
Speaker 1: dream I had had actually occurred and the craft had
47:16
Speaker 1: landed in my front yard. I told my husband about it,
47:20
Speaker 1: and of course he dismissed it. We never talked about it.
47:24
Speaker 1: But it was almost six years later that Cheryl brought
47:27
Speaker 1: up this experience again with her husband, and this turned
47:31
Speaker 1: out to have some interesting results, because, as Cheryl says, recently,
47:36
Speaker 1: it came up in conversation and I said, what could
47:39
Speaker 1: have caused the indentation? I wished I had taken a picture,
47:43
Speaker 1: to which he replied, we should have had the soil sampled.
47:47
Speaker 1: He admitted that when I first showed him the first
47:50
Speaker 1: thought he had was UFO, and then after telling him
47:54
Speaker 1: the story, he was so internally shaken up he couldn't
47:58
Speaker 1: think about it. So today Cheryl feels that the experience
48:02
Speaker 1: was perhaps an actual onboard experience, but she admits she
48:07
Speaker 1: does not want any attention now. She says, keep in mind,
48:11
Speaker 1: I'm a mother and a professional, and I do not
48:15
Speaker 1: want to be deemed as crazy. That case makes me
48:18
Speaker 1: wonder how many people have had these kinds of experiences
48:21
Speaker 1: and just pass it off as a dream. It was
48:23
Speaker 1: just pure luck that she went out and saw this
48:26
Speaker 1: crushed circle of vegetation or you know, a circular mark
48:30
Speaker 1: in her lawn, which really prompted her to believe that
48:34
Speaker 1: this could have very well been a real experience, and
48:37
Speaker 1: that's what prompted her to report it, although it was
48:41
Speaker 1: some time later, and again most people don't report it.
48:45
Speaker 1: She was anonymous, made it very clear that she's professional,
48:49
Speaker 1: with no history of mental illness in her family. This
48:54
Speaker 1: sort of thing really makes me have great empathy for
48:58
Speaker 1: these witnesses who have to brave all the ridicule and
49:03
Speaker 1: skepticisms surrounding this subject. This UFO cover up has really
49:09
Speaker 1: slowed the progress of UFO research and continues to do so.
49:15
Speaker 1: It's really a shame because our governments absolutely know for
49:20
Speaker 1: sure that this is a real phenomena. I think we've
49:24
Speaker 1: got enough information to say that conclusively. And I don't
49:29
Speaker 1: know how many cases we need of people being taken
49:31
Speaker 1: on board for this to be accepted by mainstream science.
49:36
Speaker 1: Sooner or later, it's going to happen for the simple
49:38
Speaker 1: fact that these cases are real. There's far too many
49:42
Speaker 1: to explain away as hoax's hallucinations, misperceptions or mental illness,
49:47
Speaker 1: which is really the go to for the folks behind
49:50
Speaker 1: the cover up, and all the time they know it's real,
49:53
Speaker 1: so it's very much disingenuous. All right, let's move to
49:58
Speaker 1: the last and final case. I must say this might
50:01
Speaker 1: be my favorite in this compilation, just because it's got
50:05
Speaker 1: some really poignant elements to it. I find it a
50:10
Speaker 1: really fascinating case. And this is again fully consciously recalled
50:17
Speaker 1: I call this one I went right through the wall.
50:21
Speaker 1: This one occurred on June fifth, twenty fifteen, in Mount Pleasant, Michigan.
50:26
Speaker 1: That's not too long ago, so that is interesting for sure. Also,
50:33
Speaker 1: this is a single witness case, but as you'll see,
50:36
Speaker 1: some details to it that to me have convinced me
50:41
Speaker 1: that it's absolutely genuine, and I think you'll find it
50:46
Speaker 1: certainly an interesting case. This very interesting final case comes
50:51
Speaker 1: from an anonymous gentleman. I'll call him Dylan. That's a pseudonym.
50:56
Speaker 1: He reported his encounter to Newfork three days after it
50:59
Speaker 1: occurred and provided a lengthy first hand eye witnessed testimony
51:03
Speaker 1: describing his encounter in detail. His experience began when he
51:08
Speaker 1: was asleep in the bedroom of his home located in
51:11
Speaker 1: Mount Pleasant, Michigan. This is a town of about twenty
51:14
Speaker 1: one thousand people in the center of the state. The
51:18
Speaker 1: first hint he had of anything strange was when he
51:21
Speaker 1: woke up to the feeling that somebody was breaking into
51:24
Speaker 1: his house. As he says, I went to have a look,
51:29
Speaker 1: and as I went to get up out of bed,
51:31
Speaker 1: I found myself paralyzed in place. I felt really scared,
51:36
Speaker 1: like I was having a nightmare or something. When I
51:39
Speaker 1: tried to close my eyes, I couldn't close them, and
51:42
Speaker 1: I looked up around in the air. I assumed myself
51:45
Speaker 1: to be in a dream, but I couldn't wake up,
51:48
Speaker 1: so I started to scream. Before I could get a
51:51
Speaker 1: sound out. In a single second, I was floating above
51:55
Speaker 1: my bed, and I felt a deep, very low frequency hum,
52:00
Speaker 1: like a transformer was inside my body. Then I could
52:03
Speaker 1: see behind me, back at my bed, and my cat,
52:06
Speaker 1: who sleeps by me, didn't even seem to care or
52:10
Speaker 1: notice that I wasn't in bed anymore. I was absolutely terrified,
52:15
Speaker 1: and right as I was about to scream, I started
52:18
Speaker 1: floating towards the wall of my bedroom. Now at this point,
52:21
Speaker 1: Dylan was still unsure whether or not this was a dream.
52:25
Speaker 1: The next thing he knew, he was being pulled out
52:27
Speaker 1: of his room. As Dylan says, to my shock, I
52:32
Speaker 1: went right through the wall like I was a ghost
52:35
Speaker 1: or the wall was liquid. And as I saw through
52:38
Speaker 1: my wall, I was feeling this vibration intensify greatly, like
52:42
Speaker 1: a force in my body was going to explode from
52:45
Speaker 1: the inside out. I passed out completely. When I remember
52:49
Speaker 1: waking up, I was in some sort of white science
52:52
Speaker 1: looking laboratory of some sort. I again assumed I was
52:56
Speaker 1: dreaming until I saw a face looking down at me.
53:00
Speaker 1: It was a large head with black bug like eyes,
53:04
Speaker 1: and in my head, as I went to scream, I
53:06
Speaker 1: heard it say, don't be afraid of me. You are
53:10
Speaker 1: safe with me. I don't know how to explain it,
53:13
Speaker 1: but it set it through my brain like a mind
53:16
Speaker 1: reader would read your mind. The voice sounded like I
53:19
Speaker 1: was saying it to myself instantaneously to myself. Then I
53:23
Speaker 1: went to ask what's going on? Before I could talk again,
53:28
Speaker 1: it said, don't worry, we're Zeida brothers. I don't really
53:32
Speaker 1: understand what that means, but as I could see more clearly,
53:36
Speaker 1: I immediately noticed that these weren't people at all. It was
53:40
Speaker 1: an oblong looking, bug eyed, gray skinned being, probably around
53:45
Speaker 1: three feet tall, with a silver suit made of some
53:48
Speaker 1: kind of spandex. It had a tiny slit where the
53:51
Speaker 1: mouth was and just holes for ears. Its head was
53:55
Speaker 1: wobbling on what I remember was a tiny neck, and
53:59
Speaker 1: its hands looked like they were really skinny and long,
54:02
Speaker 1: with almost no texture, just like the lining of a
54:05
Speaker 1: hot dog casing. I can only explain it as an
54:08
Speaker 1: alien creature. So Dylan now found himself lying on a
54:12
Speaker 1: kind of table looking up at this strange being, and
54:15
Speaker 1: he continued to try to communicate with this being. As
54:19
Speaker 1: he says, when I asked it to go home, another
54:22
Speaker 1: one came into the room and they were talking to
54:25
Speaker 1: each other without talking. One said something in a weird sounding,
54:29
Speaker 1: almost African type of language, and they came back next
54:33
Speaker 1: to me in an instant, no walking, just teleporting back
54:37
Speaker 1: to above me. Dylan now found himself being undressed by
54:41
Speaker 1: one of the beings, and the other put a quote
54:45
Speaker 1: strange circular light orb on his genital area, which caused
54:50
Speaker 1: Dylan some burning pain. The being immediately removed this alien instrument,
54:55
Speaker 1: and the pain instantly stopped, and as Dylan says, then
54:58
Speaker 1: the one holding the light bulb all disappeared in a
55:01
Speaker 1: flash out of my view, and the other one above
55:03
Speaker 1: me said I want to show you him, and a different, taller,
55:07
Speaker 1: bright one of these things came out walking with what
55:11
Speaker 1: looked like a little girl, but with some of the
55:13
Speaker 1: facial features of these creatures. And I looked up at
55:16
Speaker 1: me and said, you know who I am. This scared
55:20
Speaker 1: me terribly, and I immediately remember falling back asleep. This
55:24
Speaker 1: turned out to be the end of Dylan's onboard encounter.
55:28
Speaker 1: He's not sure how long the experience lasted, but he
55:31
Speaker 1: estimates a few hours. The next thing he knew, he
55:34
Speaker 1: was back in his home. As Dylan says, when I
55:37
Speaker 1: woke up again, it was the next morning and I
55:40
Speaker 1: was back lying in my bed without my covers being disturbed.
55:44
Speaker 1: I immediately assumed it was a very scary nightmare. Then when
55:48
Speaker 1: I went to get out of my bed, my ankle
55:51
Speaker 1: felt as though the same vibrational burning sensation was coming
55:55
Speaker 1: from under my skin by the bone in my leg.
55:58
Speaker 1: Though I looked down and noticed that there was a small,
56:01
Speaker 1: maybe one eighth of an inch circular cutout and burned
56:04
Speaker 1: mark on my leg, but it went down like four
56:07
Speaker 1: layers of my skin, as if someone had literally punched
56:10
Speaker 1: a hole with a paper punch out of it and
56:12
Speaker 1: then burned it closed. Though seeing the mark on his ankle,
56:16
Speaker 1: Dylan realized that the dream explanation failed to account for
56:19
Speaker 1: what had happened to him, and of course there were
56:22
Speaker 1: a few other strange after effects. As Dylan says, for
56:26
Speaker 1: the past few days, I haven't really been able to
56:29
Speaker 1: tell if this was a dream or real, but strange
56:33
Speaker 1: feelings happened to my leg, and I hear weird static
56:36
Speaker 1: sounds in my head when I feel it. And I
56:38
Speaker 1: also keep seeing a strange pattern of a triangle with
56:41
Speaker 1: two circles in it, which looks like some sort of
56:44
Speaker 1: geometric constellation. When I start to fall asleep every night.
56:48
Speaker 1: Since I still don't know if I was dreaming of
56:51
Speaker 1: this or if it really happened, but I can't explain
56:54
Speaker 1: why I am still feeling and seeing weird things or
56:58
Speaker 1: the hole in my leg I found the morning after
57:00
Speaker 1: all of this happened. So Dylan decided to report his
57:03
Speaker 1: experience to the National UFO Reporting Center and says that
57:07
Speaker 1: he believes that he experienced a quote possible abduction and
57:11
Speaker 1: that he was quote taken to an alien laboratory from
57:15
Speaker 1: my bedroom. It's another example of a person having an
57:19
Speaker 1: experience in the middle of the night and waking up
57:21
Speaker 1: thinking Wow, could this have been a dream, and then
57:24
Speaker 1: discovering a mark on their body that kind of points
57:27
Speaker 1: to the fact that, no, this really happened to me.
57:31
Speaker 1: The most interesting aspect of this particular case is that
57:35
Speaker 1: he describes seeing a half human, half et little girl
57:41
Speaker 1: who said, you know who I am. I honestly think,
57:45
Speaker 1: although the witness didn't say this, I think that that
57:47
Speaker 1: might have been his hybrid daughter, because that is one
57:51
Speaker 1: of the reasons people are taken on board. They have
57:54
Speaker 1: their genetic material taken and they basically have hybrid children
58:01
Speaker 1: on board. So although a witness didn't say this, I
58:05
Speaker 1: have interviewed enough people who've had that kind of experience,
58:08
Speaker 1: but I think probably that's what's going on here. But
58:12
Speaker 1: an amazing experience. And again, I have great empathy for
58:16
Speaker 1: people who are struggling to figure out what's going on
58:19
Speaker 1: with them, and kudos to him for reporting it. I
58:23
Speaker 1: wish everyone would come forward. It would make it a
58:25
Speaker 1: lot easier for everyone else who are having these kinds
58:28
Speaker 1: of experiences to come forward as well. It's really one
58:31
Speaker 1: of the reasons I do this research because I know
58:34
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there. I know a
58:36
Speaker 1: lot of you guys listening here have had these kinds
58:39
Speaker 1: of encounters and are searching for answers. So again, yeah,
58:43
Speaker 1: that's why I do this research. These experiences do run
58:47
Speaker 1: in my family as well, so I'm not just doing
58:51
Speaker 1: armchair research here. I've had personal experiences with this, and
58:55
Speaker 1: having talked to so many people who've had these kinds
58:57
Speaker 1: of experiences. I think it's pro fondly important and I
59:02
Speaker 1: think all humanity deserves to know the truth about what's
59:05
Speaker 1: going on here. So that's it for today. I truly
59:08
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys watching. Again, I think this subject is
59:12
Speaker 1: crucially important, So thank you, thank you, thank you, and
59:16
Speaker 1: until next time, keep asking those hard questions, keep searching
59:19
Speaker 1: for the truth most important of all, keep having fun
59:24
Speaker 1: and I will see you next episode. Bye for now.