Latest / The Bull Brotherhood / Episode 23 - More Than a Dick: The Bull’s Program That Women Trust (Ft. Mr. Mocha)
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- 0:00I want them to experience me. I want them to
- 0:05experience the way I do it. I was scoping out
- 0:08the guys who I knew that were the professionals,
- 0:12in other words. It was very, very easy to pick
- 0:15out Mocha and Dimitri. They stood out. They had
- 0:20that aura, you know. And I knew that I wasn't
- 0:24going to, like, approach them to talk to them
- 0:27or anything like that. This podcast contains
- 0:30explicit adult content, mature themes, and candid
- 0:34conversations about sex, dominance, power exchange,
- 0:39and ethical non -monogamy. It is intended for
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- 0:46is advised. The views expressed by our guests
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- 1:04purposes only. Nothing in this podcast should
- 1:07be interpreted as legal advice, medical guidance,
- 1:12or psychological counseling. We speak from experience,
- 1:15not credentials. Always practice consent, respect
- 1:19the boundaries of others, and follow local laws.
- 1:23If you're not comfortable with Frank talk about
- 1:25sex, kink, dominance, or emotional power, this
- 1:29probably isn't the show for you. But if you're
- 1:32ready to step into your masculine edge and embrace
- 1:35a lifestyle that demands mastery, welcome to
- 1:38the Brotherhood. Welcome to the Bull Brotherhood
- 1:43podcast, where we talk power, pleasure, and the
- 1:47art of dominance in ethical non -monogamy. This
- 1:50is not your average lifestyle podcast. This is
- 1:53for men who lead. men who master, and men who
- 1:57leave a lasting impression. If you're here, you're
- 2:00not just curious. You're ready to elevate. So
- 2:04to all the bulls, hot wives, stags, and open
- 2:07-minded explorers, we see you. Let's go. Ladies
- 2:24and gentlemen, good evening and welcome to another
- 2:26exhilarating episode of the Bullet Brotherhood
- 2:29podcast. I'm Brian Morgan, a .k .a. the Sigma
- 2:32Male, the lone wolf himself, coming at you with
- 2:35my nephew, the perpetual student, Socrates. What's
- 2:40up, dawg? What's up, y 'all? All right. And ladies
- 2:44and gentlemen, tonight, we welcome back from
- 2:46the O -Faces podcast. the executive director,
- 2:49the CEO himself. I call him Doc Gable. Everybody
- 2:53else knows him as Mr. Mocha. What's up, baby
- 2:56boy? What's going on, guys? I appreciate the
- 2:58invite as always. How's it going, fellas? Wonderful
- 3:02here, baby. Wonderful. And again, thank you for
- 3:04cutting into your quality time and coming to
- 3:12help us out. I guess with a, for Socrates, a
- 3:15question tonight or how you want a question.
- 3:19All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to
- 3:21turn it over to Socrates. He's going to be our
- 3:23moderator tonight with this. Mr. Mocha and I,
- 3:26we're going to be answering questions together
- 3:28as one, as well as from a alpha bull's point
- 3:33of view and a sigma male's point of view. All
- 3:37right. So here, take it over nephew. Yes, sir.
- 3:40Yes, sir. It was good, y 'all. What's going on?
- 3:43All right, all right. Nothing much, man. Yeah,
- 3:46yeah. So this is really, you know, for those
- 3:49that don't know, man, you know, these are my
- 3:51boys, you know. These are my counsel. You know,
- 3:55these are my war counsel gentlemen that I talk
- 4:00to, strategize approaches from business to how
- 4:06to interact with these beautiful ladies that
- 4:09we get to interact with in this lifestyle. And
- 4:11so. I was listening to another podcast, and they
- 4:15were presenting the things that they do and the
- 4:18thought process and the process that they go
- 4:21through to give a couple a really good experience.
- 4:25And I was vibing off it. I was like, yeah, I
- 4:27like that idea. I like this idea. But something
- 4:32hit me. Something was like a voice in my head.
- 4:36And I was like, I don't know if it's Brian's
- 4:38in the back of my head. Or Mr. Mocha's in the
- 4:41back of my head. But it was like, that's too
- 4:43much work. It was like, hey, man, you run some
- 4:52businesses. You travel, bro. Like, I don't know
- 4:56if you can do all that. And I was thinking, you
- 4:59know what? I don't know what my boys would say
- 5:01about that. Not that what the person was saying
- 5:03was wrong, because I admire that podcast and
- 5:07what they were saying. It was more of like, well,
- 5:10what fits the approach that the Boy Brotherhood
- 5:12has? And so I called my boy, Unk, up. He was
- 5:17busy at the time, so I called Mr. Mocha, and
- 5:19we started discussing the difference between
- 5:22their approach and Mr. Mocha's approach. And
- 5:26I said, what'd I say? I said, I think you do
- 5:31it a little differently, don't you? And that's
- 5:33where you broke it down. So did you want to...
- 5:36Kind of explain. Well, I think you got to first,
- 5:38you got to set that, you got to, what's the other
- 5:42approach? Exactly. Because they don't have a
- 5:44point of reference. Right, right. So what it
- 5:47was is their basic, we talked about it for a
- 5:50bit. We talked about having tools in your toolbox.
- 5:53And we always encourage everybody, have tools
- 5:56in your toolbox. Learn how to read people's body
- 5:59language. Learn how to read the room. Learn how
- 6:01to interact. Wash your ass. All those kind of
- 6:04things. But the paradigm that we were saying
- 6:08is, and what Mr. Mocha was saying is, that bull
- 6:11who's putting that effort in and a lot of the
- 6:14challenges that I was having was about, my mentality
- 6:17is, I'm trying to get on their program. I got
- 6:21a couple, they have whatever program they got
- 6:23going on, and I'm trying to get in where I feed
- 6:26in. And that's a lot of work. And Mr. Mocha said,
- 6:31well, I have a little different one. I'm trying
- 6:33to see. What do I need to do or what do I need
- 6:37to present or how do I need to present this to
- 6:40where they feel comfortable and they feel like
- 6:44I'm trustworthy enough for them to get on mine?
- 6:47So that's the subject we're going to talk about
- 6:49is the program, right? And it blew my mind. It
- 6:53blew my mind. I was like, oh, my goodness, that's
- 6:55it. Everywhere I felt like I was having consistent
- 6:58challenges or putting a whole lot of energy for.
- 7:03shaky or unreliable or not the same kind of energy
- 7:06back, I realize I'll spend my whole time trying
- 7:09to get qualified for their program as opposed
- 7:12to having an actual program that's really concise
- 7:15for me and saying, well, what do I got to get
- 7:17to do to help them understand that we're going
- 7:21to have a great time if you get on my program?
- 7:25Am I explaining that right, Mr. Mogul? So I think
- 7:33that when you call me, you're basically saying
- 7:37that because I don't think everybody understands
- 7:41the concept of programs and things like that.
- 7:43So when he called me, he was saying that he had
- 7:47listened to something or podcast, and they were
- 7:51talking about having different approaches and
- 7:56different ways to approach different types of
- 7:59couples within the lifestyle. Because, you know,
- 8:03in the hot wife community, in the cuckold community
- 8:05in particular, you know, that there are, it's
- 8:10not one set type of couple. It's not one set
- 8:13type of dynamic. But as a guy, you know, we're
- 8:19dudes. So we're not, it's rare that we're only
- 8:22looking for one particular type of couple. We
- 8:27may have one. or two dynamics that we prefer.
- 8:31But oftentimes, you know, if you walk into a
- 8:35room with 100 couples, you have 100 different
- 8:38dynamics. So when he called me, when you called
- 8:42me, you're saying that based upon the information
- 8:47you heard, they refer to different approaches
- 8:53and different tactics and techniques as tools.
- 8:58And having a lot of tools in your tool bag so
- 9:03that you can adapt to the couples that you want
- 9:06to play with. Exactly. So I'm not sure if I should
- 9:12make the analogy that I made before. We'll send
- 9:19all the email complaints to you. Go for it. Go
- 9:21for it. You are on the Bull Brotherhood podcast,
- 9:31my brother. All right. I'm expecting you to be
- 9:35you, okay? Okay. Remember, you got to expand.
- 9:38Yes, exactly. All right. So, ladies and gentlemen,
- 9:42any ass -shoers that you want to throw out, okay?
- 9:47My ass is narrow, but I can take every last one
- 9:49of them. I can take every last one of them. I
- 9:53take every last one of them. I took enough for
- 9:5524 years in the United States military. Hell,
- 9:58I can take some more, okay? So I want to know.
- 10:01This is who we are. So, Mocha, take it. All right?
- 10:06Go with it. All right. So I said my analogy was
- 10:09you have two different vehicles. I'm not trying
- 10:13to get into their vehicle. What I'm trying to
- 10:16do is lure them into my, my kidnapper. I just
- 10:19need to lure you into my van because I am not,
- 10:25I want to be adaptable in conversation and fluid
- 10:33and interaction, but I want them to experience
- 10:38me. I want them to experience the way I do it.
- 10:43We have these conversations on a regular basis.
- 10:47There's levels to this. There's levels to the
- 10:52type of, you know, couple you meet. There's levels
- 10:56to the type of woman or male or whatever you
- 10:59like to interact with. There's levels to it.
- 11:01There is that level where it's like, okay, I
- 11:06had, and then we're going to start at the, I
- 11:09had an okay time. Yeah, I met this person, this
- 11:13couple, and it was cool. And then the far extreme
- 11:18is, oh, my God, I met this couple or this woman
- 11:21or this guy who completely exceeded my expectations.
- 11:26And I want this type of experience. And there's
- 11:30everything in between. So for me personally,
- 11:32I want anyone who I'm going to interact with,
- 11:35if it's a couple or a single female. I want you
- 11:40to experience what I bring. I want to be able
- 11:44to speak to you on your level so that I can now
- 11:47pull you into my world and I can give you the
- 11:51Mr. Mocha experience. I don't want to give you
- 11:54the, you know, the other guy's experience. You
- 11:59know, and I think oftentimes as guys, as a guy
- 12:06in a lifestyle, A lot of guys, in my opinion,
- 12:11go wrong because they're talking to a couple
- 12:14and they're trying to figure out how to duplicate
- 12:18an experience that they had with some other guy.
- 12:21Oh, we met this guy and he was this and he was
- 12:24that. And so now you're doing what you think
- 12:29they want you to do. I can't be the stigma male.
- 12:34No matter how much I would want to be or no matter
- 12:37how much I admire his style, if I try to do what
- 12:41the Sigma male does, I can at best be second
- 12:45best at that. Now, I can be number one at being
- 12:49Mr. Mocha. I can be number one at providing the
- 12:54experience that is me being my genuine self.
- 13:01That was my thing. I am not trying to mold myself
- 13:05to their experience. I am trying to provide them
- 13:09my experience. You know, there's a hundred different
- 13:15flavors of soda. There's a hundred different
- 13:18desserts. So if I'm chocolate, I'm not trying
- 13:22to taste like vanilla. I can only be chocolate.
- 13:24That's all I can be. And so for me, when I started
- 13:28thinking about people saying, I'm trying to mold
- 13:31myself to them. Now you're polluting who you
- 13:35are. So that's what I mean when I say I'm not
- 13:40trying to have tools that would make me moldable
- 13:46to their situation. I just want the introduction
- 13:50and to be fluid enough to make them want to experience
- 13:54what I have to offer. Outstanding. You are molding
- 14:02the communication, the interaction at that stage
- 14:06when they're trying to figure out if this is
- 14:08something they want to do and you're trying to
- 14:10figure out if this is the couple you want to
- 14:12interact with. Those are where your tools lie.
- 14:16But once, like you said, you got them kidnapped
- 14:18in the van. No. It's not so much molding. This
- 14:23is another place, the common misconception that
- 14:27a lot of people have within the lifestyle. All
- 14:29right. It's basic human interaction. Okay. I
- 14:35am going to talk to you like I would talk to
- 14:39anyone. And if our personalities click, if we
- 14:43have that chemistry, all those things are necessary.
- 14:46And it's interaction. It's relationship. The
- 14:51shit part is something that we have. You have
- 14:53a friendship. You have a relationship. You know,
- 14:56that thing. that we create with all other people
- 15:01that we want to talk to. If you go to an amusement
- 15:08park, if you go to play a basketball game, you're
- 15:11going to have an interaction with somebody, and
- 15:14that person is going to have an opportunity to
- 15:16see if they like you or not. This is just a different
- 15:18aspect of life, and it's just a different social
- 15:20setting. So it's not so much me trying to trick
- 15:24a person. Me speaking to you and seeing how the
- 15:27energy is. And I'm just going to be me. And I
- 15:32know me being me, I'm off -putting to some people.
- 15:36So if I'm off -putting to that person, then they're
- 15:41not the person that should be trying to get into
- 15:43my van. And if that person, if I don't feel that
- 15:49chemistry or that energy that I like, it's not
- 15:53going to work out either. In the beginning, my
- 15:56main tool is just being me and seeing if you
- 15:59like me. And then once we get into the bedroom,
- 16:03we're going to, you know, do our regular talking
- 16:05and communicating. And then I'm going to have
- 16:10an opportunity to be me. And that's all I can
- 16:13be because I've said before, when I get into
- 16:16a situation and I have somebody who's trying
- 16:18to, you know, direct my movements, hey, fuck
- 16:21my wife like this, fuck her like that. Hey, hey,
- 16:23man, you want to do this? She's here for what
- 16:28I do. I'm not trying to mimic your dick. If she
- 16:33wants a mimic of your dick, if she wants a mimic
- 16:35of your style, then you should be doing this
- 16:39and I should go and deal with someone who wants
- 16:41to experience me. So everything comes back to
- 16:46we're trying to experience each other. I love
- 16:54having sex with my wife. I have sex with my wife
- 16:56as often as possible. But when I go play with
- 16:59somebody else, I'm not looking for somebody who
- 17:01fucks just like my wife. Otherwise, I might as
- 17:04well just keep fucking my wife. You're looking
- 17:07for something different. Yeah. I like that. Nephew.
- 17:15Yes, sir. Nephew, let me say this. I agree with
- 17:20everything. I love listening to Mocha talk because,
- 17:24I mean, hell, I end up almost getting mesmerized
- 17:27by this shit because it's so fucking true. But
- 17:31I look at this as like, and I say we're, when
- 17:39we're dealing with a couple, I look at it as
- 17:42like the art of seduction. You know, we're being
- 17:47ourselves. with being our our true selves but
- 17:50at the same time though i know myself i'm i'm
- 17:54i'm i'm seducing like a i'm i'm using a seduction
- 17:59technique uh you know to find out what this couple's
- 18:03all about you know i look at it like um let me
- 18:07see what can i equate it to like being a dancer
- 18:09giving a performance you know i mean that involves
- 18:13what of course with the couple first and foremost
- 18:17Respect, then what? Emotional intelligence, then
- 18:23what? Shared fantasies, right? You find out everything
- 18:26that there is about the couple. Correct? Yep.
- 18:32Okay. Always doing what? You're respecting the
- 18:35sanctity of the couple's relationship. You know
- 18:38what I mean? I'm being a great listener. I want
- 18:42to hear, I want to know everything there is.
- 18:45about you guys. So I'm listening to every damn
- 18:47thing, everything. And I'm showing what I'm showing
- 18:51a genuine interest at all times as to what that
- 18:55I'm, you know, hearing. And then from there,
- 18:59then from there, I start throwing that, that
- 19:02technique in there, that seduction technique.
- 19:05All right. First of all, going into the thing,
- 19:08what am I? I'm confident. I'm sure of myself.
- 19:11I'm sure of my desires. And I'm, I'm, I'm sure
- 19:15of my value. I think that's something that, that
- 19:18most bulls don't go into the situation doing
- 19:21and, and correct me if I'm wrong, but knowing
- 19:24your, your value, knowing your value as that,
- 19:29as that, as that, you know, as that guy that's
- 19:31going to eventually take over the situation.
- 19:34Right. Absolutely. Here again, like I said, being
- 19:37sure of yourself, your desires, and also show
- 19:41a couple. At least I do. I show a couple of a
- 19:44little sensitive side of me where I'm getting
- 19:46to know him. You know, I want to know. Hell,
- 19:49I want to know the Sigma male, but I also want
- 19:51to know Brian Morgan, the man. You know what
- 19:54I mean? So I may even share some I may share
- 19:56some some I call it human stuff with them, you
- 20:01know, on the sensitive side. And then from there,
- 20:05as they get comfortable with me, not only her,
- 20:09but him, because it's got to be a two way street.
- 20:11Then we move forward. We move forward in the
- 20:15seduction process. So that's to me is like step,
- 20:18that's step eight in that seduction technique.
- 20:22Do you understand where I'm coming from? Yep.
- 20:27One of the most important factors that people
- 20:30leave out is chemistry. When you meet someone,
- 20:34and especially when I'm in that setting, I mean,
- 20:37yes, I am. I'm definitely. I'm being myself,
- 20:40but I am flirting. I am attempting to have sex
- 20:43with you. So, no, like my behavior, you know,
- 20:48if you ask my opinion, it's going to be the same.
- 20:50But I may not I'm not going to just kick in the
- 20:53door and walk in the room and start spouting
- 20:55out my opinions when we're doing a show. It's
- 20:57my job to speak of my opinions. But in person,
- 21:00you know, I am going to be polite. I am going
- 21:03to try to be charming. I am going to to be flirty,
- 21:05but I'm still going to be me. And the concept
- 21:09of chemistry is something that is the most important
- 21:12thing in all of these talks. Whenever we're talking
- 21:15about interacting with a couple, chemistry is
- 21:24the main thing because two guys can walk up and
- 21:30do the same thing, say the same thing, wear the
- 21:35same thing. And look the same way and get completely
- 21:39different responses. Because chemistry is a big
- 21:43deal. In fact, one of my, the thing I say all
- 21:47the time is the exact same thing that one guy
- 21:52can do. When another dude does it, he's creepy.
- 21:57Okay. When one guy does it, he's sexy. When the
- 22:01other guy does it, he's creepy. And that was
- 22:03a lack of some sort of chemistry. So chemistry
- 22:07is also a big thing. And sometimes, I mean, because
- 22:12you've been in a situation where you're with
- 22:15someone who's extremely physically attractive
- 22:18to you from across the room. Wow, she is gorgeous.
- 22:22But then when we interact, there's nothing wrong
- 22:25with her. She's not mean. She's nice. But there's
- 22:30no chemistry. And so, you know, in my rookie
- 22:34season, I would try to go and play with that
- 22:37woman anyways, and my dick be like, eh, I'm good.
- 22:40And now I'm having a, oh, you know. But, you
- 22:45know, that's not, like I said, there's nothing
- 22:48to say there was nothing wrong. It's just a lack
- 22:50of chemistry. Or you see a woman who I don't
- 22:55particularly find her attractive. But then we
- 22:58start talking and interacting and my dick is
- 23:01tapping on my leg like, hey, this one, choose
- 23:04this one. And then we have a phenomenal time
- 23:08and I want to play with her over and over again.
- 23:11You know, so chemistry to me is huge. And I know
- 23:18a lot of couples get afraid of the word chemistry
- 23:20because they think, I mean, you know, I'm trying
- 23:23to fall in love with. No. Chemistry is not necessarily
- 23:26just a sexual thing. It's not just a opposite
- 23:31sex thing. Chemistry is something that works
- 23:36everywhere. Chemistry plays a huge role in this
- 23:41thing as well as learning how to interact because
- 23:46with it or without it, to me, it's one of the
- 23:51things that is the great divider. in being a
- 23:58good bull or not. Let me say this, Mocha. You
- 24:04can have physical chemistry. You can have physical
- 24:09chemistry but not have a damn thing in common
- 24:12when it comes to the communication or, you know
- 24:17what I mean, getting the emotional intelligence
- 24:19there. I've had some hellified encounters. where
- 24:24it was just they were physically attracted to
- 24:28me. I was physically attracted to them. We really
- 24:31didn't even, other than knowing each other's
- 24:34names, it was fuck city after that. And it was
- 24:38great. Physical chemistry. Yeah, that physical
- 24:42chemistry. But try to meet them again and, you
- 24:46know, go out to dinner or just come over, you
- 24:48know, to the crib and chill and get to know each
- 24:50other. I found I was like, damn, we. And I had
- 24:54one that we just literally laughed at each other.
- 24:56Like, we do not have anything in common other
- 24:59than dick and pussy. That was it. That was it,
- 25:03you know? And, yeah, the sexual chemistry can
- 25:05happen. Now, the emotional or, you know, that,
- 25:11if it's not there, it ain't going to happen.
- 25:15You know what I'm saying? You can't make that
- 25:17happen. You cannot, in my opinion. At least you
- 25:20know with me. You can't make that happen. Um,
- 25:23and I, I do agree. Um, when I meet a couple,
- 25:27I will know in a very short period of time, uh,
- 25:32if there will be some, you know, some chemistry
- 25:34there. And I'm not looking for, I know when I
- 25:38meet them, whether I'm physically attracted to
- 25:41them, you know, to, to the wife. I know that
- 25:44immediately. And I know if she likes what she
- 25:46sees immediately, you know, from those little
- 25:48nonverbal cues that I'm getting from her. Um,
- 25:53or she will look at him in a certain way. And
- 25:56I know, okay, that's that look. She likes what
- 25:58she sees and, you know, we're going to start
- 26:00talking. But like I said, if there's, if there's
- 26:03nothing there, if we don't have anything, you
- 26:06know, and I'm trying and they're trying, but
- 26:08we're just like, this ain't working, you know,
- 26:12this isn't working. So that's what, um, and I
- 26:16think a lot of, a lot of, uh, young bulls and
- 26:20and even you know some seasoned guys sometimes
- 26:22how they see is the physical and you know i want
- 26:25this i want this i want this and maybe maybe
- 26:29it does get to the bedroom but i guarantee you
- 26:32damn dickhanger isn't gonna isn't gonna respond
- 26:35the way you want you want it to it's nothing
- 26:38like and i i can say it i can say it and it's
- 26:42happened to me and a whole bunch of shit has
- 26:44happened to me before my dick didn't respond
- 26:46so you know Chemistry is everything. It's everything.
- 26:52Yep. So going back to kind of why we were talking
- 26:58about this, it's about so you have your own,
- 27:01you have a program or things that you want them
- 27:06to get on. But talk to me, and I'll ask Mr. Mocha
- 27:11too, but talk to me about what you see when people
- 27:14like, even I'm just going to say I was the guy
- 27:16before. I was the guy that was like, I'm trying
- 27:20to figure out how to get on their program. So
- 27:22talk to me from the outside looking in. What
- 27:25do you see that kind of like slows people down
- 27:29or makes it harder on them because they have
- 27:32that paradigm of how do I qualify for them? Because
- 27:36I know Mr. Mocha is talking about being something
- 27:38you're not. But as far as me, I didn't go in
- 27:42there saying I'm going to. try to mold myself.
- 27:45You end up thinking you have to, or you end up
- 27:48kind of there, but you don't plan to be there.
- 27:50You don't plan to be inauthentic or be somebody
- 27:53you're not. You're just thinking, I like this.
- 27:56The wife's hot, right? The couple has all these
- 27:59requests or things they want. Let me see if I
- 28:02can do it to get there. So like, what are you
- 28:04guys seeing on that end? Some of the problems,
- 28:07some of the things that takes longer, some of
- 28:10the things that are frustrating. I think most
- 28:15Bulls here, again, they don't know their value.
- 28:17You know? Do you agree with that, Mocha? They
- 28:21don't know their value, their worth. I think
- 28:27a lot of guys here, again, and it's actually
- 28:31a compliment to you, Mocha, to guys like yourself,
- 28:36you know, my other Bull brothers. I think they
- 28:42look at you and you set the bar so high. And
- 28:47I'm talking about guys that go to the events
- 28:49and stuff, you know what I mean? And I know guys
- 28:51do this shit because when I first went to Atlanta,
- 28:54I was scoping out the guys who I knew that were
- 28:57the professionals, in other words. It was very,
- 29:02very easy to pick out Mocha and Dimitri. They
- 29:06stood out. They had that aura, you know? I knew
- 29:11that I wasn't going to, like, approach them to
- 29:14talk to them or anything like that. But I was
- 29:16just kind of seeing how they maneuvered around,
- 29:19you know, the AO. And I think these guys, here
- 29:24again, they don't know. They don't know. They
- 29:26don't know their own value. They don't know how
- 29:29to sit down and this has nothing to do to, you
- 29:36know, be whether you're a Sigma bull or you're
- 29:38an Alpha bull. you know, Omega or whatever. You
- 29:43just don't know your worth. You don't know your
- 29:46worth. You don't know that you are the king of
- 29:50kings. You know, your confidence level isn't
- 29:53there. It's like guys who play basketball, okay?
- 29:58When I played, although I was a skinny guy, you
- 30:03couldn't tell me that I wasn't the original Stephen
- 30:06Curry out there shooting the basketball. You
- 30:08know what I mean? I knew my worth. I knew my
- 30:10worth. I knew I could shoot. I knew I was good
- 30:13at it. I didn't give a damn who I guarded out
- 30:16there on the court. I just knew my value, okay?
- 30:21A lot of bulls, here again, they see other guys
- 30:27doing certain things. Sometimes a guy, and here
- 30:31again, Mocha, I'm using you because of the physique
- 30:35that they see, you know what I mean, the look
- 30:37that you bring to the table. They get intimidated,
- 30:40you know, and they think, oh, well, I got to
- 30:43go out here now and start lifting all the weights
- 30:45and, you know, get my body this way. And don't
- 30:48get me wrong. Yes, you should have a body game.
- 30:49You should. But you should have your body game.
- 30:52That's here again as a part of your value. I
- 30:55know knowing what works for you. They see other
- 30:59guys doing they're like, you know, hey, I'm going
- 31:01to try to emulate what this guy does. Don't do
- 31:04that. You set yourself up for failure every time,
- 31:06because like Mr. Mocha said. What I do one way
- 31:12and it works for me. The other guy comes and
- 31:17tries that shit and he looks like a total butthole.
- 31:20You know, he looks like a fool. So I think the
- 31:23biggest thing is knowing your value. And here
- 31:28again, don't be afraid to get out there and talk
- 31:35to that beautiful. woman or beautiful couple
- 31:38if they shoot you down the first time okay i
- 31:41got shot down all right but then go back to the
- 31:44drawing board and say okay well what did i do
- 31:46wrong what do i think i did wrong you know how
- 31:49did i approach him was my approach was i too
- 31:51uh um not standoffish but was i too aggressive
- 31:56you know did i ask the right questions um look
- 32:00at yourself in the mirror was my look right etc
- 32:03etc you know Here again, know your value, get
- 32:07yourself straight first, and then go out there
- 32:10and tackle those couples. That's how I was laid.
- 32:20I think that one thing for guys and couples to
- 32:26understand in that comment, know your value.
- 32:31That is not... Arrogance. Because 15 years ago,
- 32:39my value was not the same. There's years of experience.
- 32:51There's years of mistakes. The mistakes that
- 32:53the guys are making out there, I've made those
- 32:55mistakes. Evolution. Yeah, I mean, I've learned.
- 33:02There's a lot of things that I tell guys when
- 33:04I'm talking to guys, don't do, don't accept.
- 33:09And a lot of those things are things that I learned
- 33:11because I accepted them 10 times. You know, there's
- 33:15a reason why I can talk about the husbands who
- 33:19are telling you, fuck her like this, fuck her
- 33:20like that. Because I've been that guy, and I'm
- 33:23like, well, you know something, I'm trying to
- 33:25be respectful, and the husband wants me to fuck
- 33:27her like this. And, you know, fuck her harder,
- 33:30fuck her harder. And now I'm listening to this
- 33:32guy and I'm looking at her face. And, you know,
- 33:36she put the gate up trying to push my hips back.
- 33:38And now I'm in this position where it's like,
- 33:41OK, I don't want to pile drive this lady. You
- 33:45know, and I've said it before. I got a guy with
- 33:47a five inch dick telling me to break her cervix.
- 33:50I'm not going to do that. But and I will wind
- 33:54up going soft. In the middle of a play date because
- 33:57I got the husband telling me to fuck her a certain
- 34:00way while I'm paying attention to her body and
- 34:03that's not what she wants. It took a long time
- 34:06for me to figure out how to deal with that. Okay,
- 34:10I've also been in the situation when I tell guys
- 34:15don't, you know, don't let the husband be this
- 34:18crazy camera guy. We have a conversation. I don't
- 34:23mind you recording when I play with your wife.
- 34:25And I don't mind you telling me up front, hey,
- 34:28I like to get a certain type of angles, you know.
- 34:31But in the beginning, I didn't know that. So
- 34:32I'm having sex, and the guy's like, hey, hey,
- 34:35well, okay, stop and put her doggie style. Wait,
- 34:37wait. Honey. Honey, ride him. Yeah, you got the
- 34:41point. And I'm sitting here like, okay, I don't
- 34:46have any rights as the guy because. I have been
- 34:51in that position where I had been convinced by
- 34:53the couples that as a guy, you know, what I,
- 34:58how I feel is irrelevant. It's all about the
- 35:01wife. It's all about the wife. No, there are
- 35:05three individuals here. And three individual
- 35:08goes into a mutual verbal contract to come in
- 35:14here and we all have a good time. Okay. But for
- 35:19years, I didn't know that I had an opinion. And
- 35:24so oftentimes, I'd have couples asking, oh, why
- 35:29didn't you come back? Because I didn't know that
- 35:32I could be like, dude, you're making it fucking
- 35:34weird. All right, I'm trying to have sex with
- 35:37your wife, and you got a camera light over my
- 35:40fucking shoulder. I can't tell you how many husbands
- 35:43have said, you know, these fucking guys show
- 35:45up over here and they can't perform. motherfucker,
- 35:48your dick don't work on the best day. And you're
- 35:50mad that I can't perform while you're talking
- 35:52and you're shining the camera light in my face.
- 35:55You won't even let my dick get hard before you.
- 35:58So these are things when you start saying, know
- 36:01your value. I'm not saying that. We're not saying
- 36:03this in arrogance because there was a time when
- 36:05we didn't know our value. Well, now when I go
- 36:08into an interaction, it's not with arrogance.
- 36:12It's with, hey, here's the deal. tell me what
- 36:16you're into because we all have to have a good
- 36:18time here. I don't go and say, look, this is
- 36:21how I'm doing it. No, I go into an arrangement
- 36:22with a couple. I'm interested. I want to know
- 36:25what the husband likes. Okay, you like video.
- 36:26Cool. What positions do you like to get? Because
- 36:30I may try to put her in those positions. And
- 36:32I'll tell you what, I'm happy to do the cameras,
- 36:35to be on camera. I'm on camera. My dick's all
- 36:38over the internet. Okay, I'm cool with that.
- 36:39However, I need a second sport to warn mom. I
- 36:44need a second to get in the headspace, so if
- 36:49you give me a minute, and then that's cool. You
- 36:52know, all of these things, these were years of
- 36:57experiences, and I'm not talking about five or
- 36:59ten experiences. This was hundreds of experiences
- 37:06with, I mean, over hundreds of couples. I don't
- 37:14want to come across as me being arrogant and
- 37:17saying, know your value. Because, I mean, I've
- 37:22talked to a couple before. You get some dude
- 37:25that's 23 years old just because he's in great
- 37:28shape and he's got a huge dick and he fucks like
- 37:31an animal. He doesn't have enough life experience
- 37:36to do all the shit that you want him to do and
- 37:38know all the stuff you want him to know. And
- 37:41then you go, oh, you know something, this guy,
- 37:42this bull ain't shit. This bull's only had 15
- 37:47or 20 experiences with different couples. He
- 37:52is in his rookie season. He is confident in what
- 37:59he does. But he doesn't have enough experience
- 38:03yet to give you the experience you want. And
- 38:08most couples aren't willing to help somebody
- 38:11by giving them advice. They just expect every
- 38:14guy to show up. And they think that every dude
- 38:18has had 10 years of practice with a couple exactly
- 38:23like them with their exact dynamics. And they
- 38:26feel like, well, he can't come in and plead my
- 38:28wife. He don't know what he's doing. So we go
- 38:31back to as a guy, know your value and know when
- 38:37you haven't had enough experience to offer. And
- 38:40then that means there's more communication. Hey,
- 38:43I definitely want to do a good job and I want
- 38:47to be invited back. This is the experience I've
- 38:50had. So you guys can kind of tell me what you
- 38:52like and I can we can kind of figure it out together.
- 38:56It's going to be a lot of years of figuring it
- 38:58out with couples. before you can come in and
- 39:01go oh I've been with a couple similar to this
- 39:05I've been with 20 couples similar to this I think
- 39:08I kind of know how to work this so that's when
- 39:11when we say know your value don't think this
- 39:13is arrogance this is a whole lot of Mr. Mocha
- 39:17falling on his fucking face walking out of situations
- 39:21you know not knowing that I could walk out of
- 39:24situations being you know I have, and I feel
- 39:30bad to say this, I can't tell you how many couples
- 39:32I had ghosted because they just made the shit
- 39:36way too uncomfortable. And back when I was in
- 39:39my rookie season, like, I'm not going back into
- 39:41that drama. And then I don't know how to politely
- 39:46say, no, I don't want to come back because your
- 39:49husband's being a fucking weirdo. Or no, I don't
- 39:52want to come back because your wife. is not communicating,
- 39:56but she expects me to know exactly what's happening
- 39:59while the husband is, I didn't know how to say
- 40:02that early on. So that's what I mean about knowing
- 40:07your value. Exactly. I absolutely agree. And,
- 40:15and gentlemen, for the gentlemen listeners out
- 40:18there, our gentlemen bulls, it's just what Mocha
- 40:22was saying. No, you know, I know he are not trying
- 40:26to be, you know, sound arrogant or anything like
- 40:28that. And yes, you will learn through evolving.
- 40:34You hear me talk about that all the time. As
- 40:36you get older, as you get older, the more experiences
- 40:38you have, you will learn. And as you learn, gentlemen,
- 40:44don't be afraid to speak what's on your mind.
- 40:50If you have like, Smokey was saying, the porn
- 40:55director who is standing over you. I've had that
- 40:59shit before. I cannot perform with a husband,
- 41:05like, walking all around me with the camera,
- 41:08taking pics, taking the close -ups, and then
- 41:13going back and then going, especially if you're
- 41:15getting, like, behind me. I can't perform. I
- 41:20can't perform. When I first started out with
- 41:23my little escort gig, I had trouble. I had trouble
- 41:27with that a few times. And I went back to my
- 41:32handler and I was like, what should I do about
- 41:35this? And she was saying, baby, tell them. You
- 41:40know, tell them. You're young. You know what
- 41:42I mean? You're young. This is your first time
- 41:44doing this. So I went back and I was able to
- 41:48sit down and have my. my, um, checklist as to,
- 41:54you know, this is what I'm comfortable with.
- 41:57This is what I'm not comfortable with. Um, you
- 42:00know, it takes me a minute to get going, you
- 42:02know, for some things, uh, some things I respond
- 42:05faster with, et cetera, et cetera. So don't,
- 42:08you know, don't think, don't get embarrassed.
- 42:11That's what I'm trying to say. Don't get embarrassed.
- 42:13If things don't go your way, those first four,
- 42:16five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 times. All
- 42:18right. It's a part of learning. It's a part of
- 42:21evolving. And that is what makes you that quality
- 42:25bull later on in life because you have had all
- 42:28of those experiences and you know how to navigate,
- 42:31like Mocha said. And I can't go any further because
- 42:40Mocha hit everything. So take it over, nephew.
- 42:45Yeah, yeah. That was good stuff. We're going
- 42:48to be causing some time because I know Mr. Mocha
- 42:50got some business. Exactly, exactly. You got
- 42:54some business to take care of. I'm good. I got
- 42:5615 more minutes. Yeah, so we're probably going
- 43:01to do a couple more episodes of this because
- 43:04I got a whole other categories of things that
- 43:07I want to go over in this one. So I'll say it
- 43:09this way. Well, I'll ask my question this way.
- 43:12So Mr. Mocha, This is what I saw for myself.
- 43:16And I just want you to kind of put a little commentary
- 43:20on this. What I notice is it's the road you start
- 43:25off in the road of learning about the person.
- 43:29And what I'm saying is when you come with the
- 43:31mentality of I'm trying to get on their program,
- 43:34I'm trying to qualify for them, you end up. You
- 43:40end up in a place where you are actually inauthentic
- 43:44because they have all of their sets of needs
- 43:48and desires and wants and everything. And if
- 43:52you're a bull in the lifestyle, if you're in
- 43:54a dynamic where you're expected to be the leader,
- 43:56then what hit me was, well, you're expected to
- 44:00have a program, right? But when you go in there
- 44:02trying to see, well, what's theirs and how can
- 44:04I fit into it? I ended up being like. I don't
- 44:08want to do that, but like you said, I need to
- 44:09be nice. I don't know if I could do that. I've
- 44:12never done that. I don't know if I'm feeling
- 44:14that. I've never tried it. But let me see if
- 44:18I can try it and act like I'm liking it. So what
- 44:21are some of the problems you see when you see
- 44:23a lot of bulls going in there saying, well, let
- 44:26me see what I can do to kind of fit, knowing
- 44:29that they don't want to be authentic, but they
- 44:31kind of end up in a place they don't really want
- 44:33to be in? So now those are two different things.
- 44:39So here's the thing. Like early on, if you're
- 44:45still learning as a bull, you are going to wind
- 44:51up in a lot of situations where you're like,
- 44:52holy shit, because I've had a whole lot of holy
- 44:54shit moments as a bull. Like that's going to
- 44:57happen. There's going to be a lot of times where
- 45:00you're introduced to some new shit. And here's
- 45:03the thing. That's the beauty on the other side
- 45:06of that. When you're meeting a couple, you're
- 45:09not going in and saying, I'm the fucking boss.
- 45:11We're going to do what I want. No, it's still
- 45:12an exchange. There's still an exchange of sexual
- 45:16energy. There's still an exchange of sexual experiences.
- 45:19I'm not saying do that now. It's a completely
- 45:21different thing. You wind up in a situation where
- 45:24somebody like, hey, let's try this. And I'm like,
- 45:26whoa, whoa, I'll do that. No, I'm cool. Like,
- 45:31and you're going to, here's the thing. If you
- 45:34have been a bull in the lifestyle long enough,
- 45:38no matter how freaky you think you are or how
- 45:43wild you think you are, somebody's going to introduce
- 45:47some shit at you and be like, nah, I'm not cool
- 45:50with that. It's just how it works. So when you
- 45:57are confronted, there's a difference between
- 46:02being confronted with new stuff where people
- 46:05go, hey, would you mind trying this? Or would
- 46:09you be interested in doing this? Because as a
- 46:12bull, you, as a bull and an individual, you still
- 46:16have the ability to go yes or no. That's how
- 46:19you got to get your experiences. So early on,
- 46:23you are going to go into a lot of situations
- 46:25because you're trying to figure out who you are
- 46:28as a bull. You can still be dominant and go into
- 46:31a situation because it's like, I'm going to ask
- 46:34everybody, what are you into? And every once
- 46:37in a while, somebody's like, I like this. And
- 46:40you're like, hmm. Well, I've never done that
- 46:44before, but fuck it. Let's give it a shot. You
- 46:48know, so a lot of things that you do, this is
- 46:54why it's a time thing. you're going to go into
- 46:58a whole lot of situations attempting to accommodate
- 47:01people on your journey to see what you're into
- 47:07because if you start at the very beginning, in
- 47:11the very beginning, the concept of sticking your
- 47:13dick in somebody's life is a little weird. Even
- 47:18if you fantasize your whole life, the first time
- 47:19you do it, it's a little weird. So that's something
- 47:23that's new. And then as a bull, the first time
- 47:28you're in a situation and you hear a wife completely
- 47:32degrading her husband that's crazy okay then
- 47:36you step up to the first time you're in a situation
- 47:39where you're trying to fuck the wife and she's
- 47:41telling you yeah tell him how miserable and how
- 47:44weak he is and i'm like wait i gotta you want
- 47:46me to do commentary and maintain an erection
- 47:52Within his lifestyle, you are constantly being
- 47:56introduced to new things. We're always getting
- 47:59introduced to new things and new styles. You
- 48:02know, hey, look, I can give you a list of things
- 48:07that, hey, there's some things that I've seen
- 48:12or some requests that I've gotten where I'm like,
- 48:15holy shit. Are you joking? Like you, you know.
- 48:20So you're going to be constantly, and then somebody
- 48:23may offer some shit that you're like, huh. Well,
- 48:28that's not my thing. Hell, the first time I ever
- 48:31pissed on somebody's husband. Like, hey, will
- 48:33you piss on my husband? I'm like, eh, that's
- 48:35kind of weird. But explain this to me. You know,
- 48:41because she like it really turned me on. So she
- 48:43puts the poor bastard in the tub. And she's standing
- 48:46there holding it for me, and my brain was like,
- 48:48I'll try, but I couldn't do it. I couldn't do
- 48:50it. And then over time, she would be talking
- 48:55to me and telling me how she fantasizes about
- 48:58me doing it and how wet she gets and how she
- 49:00squirts thinking about it, and she inspired me
- 49:03to go and piss on her husband and then fuck the
- 49:06hell out of her. So you're going to be introduced
- 49:10to some new shit. that you may or may not be
- 49:14okay with. So I'm not saying go into it with
- 49:17a closed mind because you do want to leave knowing
- 49:22that you gave them an amazing experience. With
- 49:26me, oftentimes, I will say go into it with an
- 49:30open mind, but still, if you're the bull, be
- 49:34able to say no. Be able to say, okay, cool. I'm
- 49:40okay with doing this thing. But I am still going
- 49:46to be me, and I am still my dominant self. So
- 49:50with anything sexual and dealing with other human
- 49:56beings in this type of situation, everything
- 49:59is kind of nuanced. Because I'm a dominant person
- 50:03by nature, but everything I know about sex, some
- 50:08woman taught me. You know, and I take the experience
- 50:16from all of those women and I learn to combine
- 50:19them. And I've taken experience from all the
- 50:21couples, the good and the bad experiences. And
- 50:24I learned to combine them into my style, you
- 50:27know. And so if you're new to this, if you're
- 50:30a new bull, understand it's going to take you
- 50:32time. And the more inexperienced bulls, yes,
- 50:35you definitely have to be able to go in and.
- 50:41experience and learn what different couples like
- 50:44because I went into it and learned what so many
- 50:48different couples liked. Then I have this reservoir
- 50:53of experience that helps me know what I don't
- 50:58want, what I don't like, and identify the type
- 51:02of couple I do want to be with or don't want
- 51:04to be with. Now, no matter how old you are as
- 51:07a bull, if you just came to the lifestyle and
- 51:09you've been in it for two or three years, yeah,
- 51:11you have to have the mentality that I'm going
- 51:16to go in and learn how as many couples out there
- 51:20want to do it because it doesn't mean you can't
- 51:22be in control of the situation. It doesn't mean
- 51:24you can't be dominant. You know, a lot of it
- 51:28is an experience thing. And they're going to
- 51:32expect you because of your age. if you are a
- 51:35little bit older, they're going to go into that
- 51:37already thinking that you know, that you know
- 51:41a few things, you know? Am I right or wrong,
- 51:44Mocha? They're going to expect you because of
- 51:48your age, because you're seasoned age -wise,
- 51:50that you know some things, you know? Even though
- 51:54you may have been in this, you know, a year,
- 51:57two, three years, whatever. Now, don't get me
- 52:00wrong. You're going to be able to adapt and learn.
- 52:04a hell of a lot quicker than that younger guy.
- 52:08I kind of wish that I would have gotten into
- 52:12this later in life rather than age 26. Because
- 52:19I thought I knew, and I think I told you before,
- 52:23nephew, I thought everything about sex involved
- 52:26being a porn star, what I saw on porn. And I
- 52:30was so fucking wrong. I was so wrong. So here
- 52:33again, I had to be like Mocha. I had to learn
- 52:36through trial and error. Thank God my handler
- 52:40had patience with me because she did. She taught
- 52:44me. She taught me. She taught me a whole bunch
- 52:47of things. I knew the physical, but I had to
- 52:52learn the emotional. You know, I had to learn.
- 52:56I had to learn how to read couples. I had to
- 52:57learn how to talk to husbands. I had to learn
- 53:00how to. read body language um and here again
- 53:06for a couple of years i had to do uh there were
- 53:12some times where i had to deal with some couples
- 53:14that i was not necessarily attracted to you know
- 53:17because i was in a certain field where you know
- 53:21i had to perform you know what i mean um and
- 53:25so that's um the evolution it just all boils
- 53:31down it boils down to the evolution um and i
- 53:35think that was one of our topics at one time
- 53:36wasn't it evolution of becoming a quality bull
- 53:39you know that's what that's what this boils down
- 53:41to that's what it boils down to um and it is
- 53:45it is all about patience it is all about like
- 53:50like mocha said learning through trial and error
- 53:52you know but once you have put together your
- 54:00Your package, your equation that works for you,
- 54:03you'll be knocking things out of the park. You'll
- 54:08be knocking things out of the park. I don't care.
- 54:10And I don't care what type of couple that it
- 54:13is. I don't care what type of couple that it
- 54:15is. I don't care what type of couple. I don't
- 54:17care what the couple's looking for. You'll be
- 54:19able to immediately latch on to that and blend
- 54:24right in. Just blend right in and be able to
- 54:27give them that. whether it be the boyfriend experience
- 54:29or just, you know, providing some good dick for
- 54:32a while or just a companionship type of thing,
- 54:36you know, because a lot of times, a lot of times,
- 54:39man, couples, they want that third party to just
- 54:45hang out with. You know, the sex might come later,
- 54:48but they want that third party to hang out with.
- 54:50Believe me. And that's more fun, man. God damn,
- 54:53that's fun as hell. When you go somewhere and
- 54:56it's the three of you all. And everybody's looking
- 54:59at you like, what the fuck is this? I read about
- 55:01it, but I'm seeing this, you know what I mean?
- 55:04So evolution, yeah, that's what it's all about.
- 55:08Evolution. Mastering the art of seduction, finding
- 55:13your sweet spot as to what equation works for
- 55:18you, and then going from there, in my opinion.
- 55:25Yeah, I definitely agree. I definitely agree.
- 55:28You know, because it's, and it's interesting
- 55:31when you think about, I think a lot of people
- 55:36forget when you're talking about a guy, okay,
- 55:44when you're looking through a man's lens, very
- 55:50few men are singular in their sexual play style.
- 55:55So as a guy, I may want a woman who I just want
- 56:03to, I can go in and just fuck. I can go in and
- 56:08have a conversation. I can be sensual. I can
- 56:12be all of these different things. So it's not
- 56:15like we're usually one way. And as a guy, for
- 56:22me personally, I always wanted to know that I
- 56:26had the ability to bring a woman pleasure. Like
- 56:30that's a big deal for me. Number one, number
- 56:32one thing. So before the lifestyle, you know,
- 56:39I, I was, I fired off as a massage therapist.
- 56:42That's what I did first. I, I'm a very touchy
- 56:45feely person. I like to touch a woman's body.
- 56:47Like I, I want to know all the ways she likes
- 56:50pleasure. It's very easy for you to be adaptable
- 56:56to a woman's sexual desires because that's what
- 57:02we want. As a bull, we want to be able to go
- 57:05in and offer her an experience better than as
- 57:10best that we can. The thing that makes you different
- 57:15as a bull is you are trying to physically satisfy
- 57:20the wife. But you are emotionally giving the
- 57:26husband a sensation. A sensation, yep. It's three
- 57:30people here. His gratification is coming through
- 57:35secondhand sex. So a bull is not just a penis.
- 57:45A successful bull is not just a penis. A successful
- 57:50bull understands that. You're trying to bring
- 57:53the wife physical pleasure while giving this
- 57:56husband this, whether it gives him some sort
- 58:00of... Bottom line, it's still sexual. It's still
- 58:02sexual for him. He's still getting sexual pleasure.
- 58:05Let's just say it what it is. I mean... Guys
- 58:09don't like the way it sounds. I've said this
- 58:10to guys before. I'm not giving him sexual gratification.
- 58:13Shut the fuck up. You are giving him sexual gratification.
- 58:15If he in the corner with a cage on or if he's
- 58:18standing there stroping his dick watching you
- 58:20fuck his wife, you are giving him sexual gratification.
- 58:23His is more, you know, cerebral. That turns into
- 58:28physical while you are giving her physical. And
- 58:31you are, as a bull, if you're taking on the bull
- 58:35moniker, you're learning how to satisfy both
- 58:38of them, okay? And the way you do that is by
- 58:46learning and practicing and experiencing. And
- 58:51if you're the kind of guy who had the ability
- 58:54to talk to a woman in a vanilla world because
- 58:56that wife still requires the same thing and oftentimes
- 59:00the husband wants to see it or... If you go into
- 59:03a situation where the husband is like, look,
- 59:06I just want you to come in and fuck my wife.
- 59:08You know, that's what our dynamic is. I'm comfortable
- 59:10with that as well. You know, as a bull, you're
- 59:13going to wear a different hat. But you get to
- 59:17choose what hat you wear. There are going to
- 59:19be some couples. I turn down couples online every
- 59:23day. Let me phrase that. I don't mean every day
- 59:26because I don't get people reach out to me every
- 59:28day. Excuse me. I turn down. More couples online
- 59:33than I will accept for the simple fact that they
- 59:38come at me in a way that is not okay with me.
- 59:42I literally had a guy send me a message on FetLife
- 59:46the other day. Hey, I see you play with Hot Wives.
- 59:50I'm glad. I'm going to send some pictures of
- 59:53my wife later on so we can get together. Go fuck
- 59:57yourself. Who the fuck are you talking to? You
- 1:00:02know, now I know a lot of guys, if the wife is
- 1:00:05hot enough, he's going to deal with that. Meaning,
- 1:00:07I don't give a fuck how hot she is. I'm not,
- 1:00:12there's certain things I'm not going to do. So
- 1:00:15when I start talking about me bringing people
- 1:00:21into my style of playing, I have many hats that
- 1:00:25I can wear. Ideally, you want... to experience
- 1:00:30me while I'm wearing one of my mini caps. But
- 1:00:33if you try to make me do some shit, I'm not trying
- 1:00:35to adapt to some shit that I'm not into. I'm
- 1:00:38not trying to go into a tool bag and go, yeah,
- 1:00:43I know this is the kind of guy that wants me
- 1:00:45to do this or that, but I don't like it, but
- 1:00:50man, I really want to fuck his wife. No, fuck
- 1:00:51that. Ain't no pussy that good. Ain't no pussy
- 1:00:55that good. I've had too much of it. You know,
- 1:00:57I can say no. I can wear it down. Damn, what
- 1:01:02does that come down to, nephew? Knowing your
- 1:01:05what? Knowing your value, right? Knowing your
- 1:01:07value. Knowing your worth. That's it. That is
- 1:01:10it. Knowing your value. Knowing your worth, man.
- 1:01:14Damn. I can't come back with nothing shit after
- 1:01:17Mocha. Mocha's just hitting the holy grail right
- 1:01:21now. I can't come back with anything. You know
- 1:01:24what I mean? I tell you, I like running my mouth.
- 1:01:28But, brother, when it's the gospel, there ain't
- 1:01:31nothing for me to damn say. I think it's safe
- 1:01:34to say, ladies and gentlemen, that Mr. Mocha
- 1:01:37and I are really the exact same type of quality
- 1:01:44bull. We may do things a little differently.
- 1:01:48We may present things a little differently. But
- 1:01:51we are the exact same. I think I can say honestly
- 1:01:56that. He's like me when it comes to the pleasure
- 1:02:01thing. It is all about the woman's pleasure for
- 1:02:05me. I want to, I have to get her off. I need
- 1:02:09to get her off. Okay. Couples please me when
- 1:02:12they reach out to me. When they reach out to
- 1:02:15me the right way. And here again, that was what
- 1:02:19Mocha was saying a few minutes ago. We know our
- 1:02:22value. We know our worth. And you're just not
- 1:02:24going to come off on me. basically tell me okay
- 1:02:28i'm gonna send pictures and you know you're gonna
- 1:02:32do this so we're gonna get together yeah fuck
- 1:02:34you and die all right pussies like a savings
- 1:02:37account okay i'll make a withdrawal the interest
- 1:02:40is gone so don't don't think that you're gonna
- 1:02:42you know come here and and and tell me what the
- 1:02:45hell i'm gonna do with your wife no approach
- 1:02:47me here again approach me like the gentleman
- 1:02:50husband that you should be and then we go from
- 1:02:54there we talk We establish a rapport. And then
- 1:02:57you can show me that lovely wife of yours. And
- 1:03:00if we get together and there's some chemistry,
- 1:03:02then there we go from there. Amen. Amen. Listen,
- 1:03:06thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, that's
- 1:03:16it. That is it. You made it sound so simple.
- 1:03:19I know I be making that shit sound complicated,
- 1:03:21but... If you do what he just said, for those
- 1:03:27couples who I pretend like I didn't see your
- 1:03:29message, I'll probably respond. I will probably
- 1:03:34respond. If I don't, maybe there was not a mutual
- 1:03:38attraction. But when you know that your life
- 1:03:41is hot and you're like, oh, I have somebody message
- 1:03:46like, my wife looks like the girls on your, the
- 1:03:49women in your videos. Why won't you respond to
- 1:03:52me? Cause you're a dick. That's why I won't respond
- 1:03:57to you. Because you're not hitting me with the
- 1:04:01basic. Hi, how are you? My name is my wife. Exactly.
- 1:04:09You're looking at me as only a dick. All right.
- 1:04:13You're taking that term bull and you're actually
- 1:04:16making that shit fucking derogatory in a way.
- 1:04:18Cause you're looking at me as only a piece, just
- 1:04:21a dick. You don't mean just a penis. And, you
- 1:04:25know, I just need you for your damn penis. OK.
- 1:04:27And here again, fuck you and die. We'd be part
- 1:04:32two on just that topic. Now you preaching the
- 1:04:35gospel. We can. We can. We will definitely do
- 1:04:39part two on just that topic. But, yeah, there's
- 1:04:42just, you know, I am more than just providing
- 1:04:45penis. OK. Matter of fact, that's the last thing
- 1:04:48on my fucking mind. We will get to that. We will
- 1:04:53get to that, but I want you to get to know me,
- 1:04:56not just the bull, but I want you to know me.
- 1:05:00I want you to be able to trust me, et cetera,
- 1:05:03et cetera, and then we go from there. We got
- 1:05:07to have the damn communication. We have to have
- 1:05:09the established rapport. We have to have the
- 1:05:13trust. We have to have the whole nine yards before
- 1:05:16I deal with you. That's it. That is it. I don't
- 1:05:19care how damn fine your damn wife is. I don't
- 1:05:22care. I give her that compliment. Beautiful lady.
- 1:05:25But until we establish all of that, it's not
- 1:05:28going to happen. It's not going to happen. I
- 1:05:31passed the BBC Bulls stage a long time ago. I
- 1:05:37passed that. I had that shit when I was escorting.
- 1:05:40And to be honest with you, it kind of got old
- 1:05:43quick. It kind of got old really quick. So, you
- 1:05:48know, this is where we are now. And and I say
- 1:05:51we because I said Mocha's Mocha's in the same
- 1:05:54boat. It takes a lot. It takes a lot to to toot
- 1:05:59our horn, ladies and gentlemen. It takes a lot.
- 1:06:01It really does. And here again, not trying to
- 1:06:04sound conceited or arrogant or anything like
- 1:06:07that. But when you talk to the three of us, when
- 1:06:11you talk to the three of us, we are the definition
- 1:06:14of what that quality. Bull is. Period. Facts.
- 1:06:20End of story. Drop the mic. Drop the mic. I'm
- 1:06:28with you because it's the experience at this
- 1:06:32point. I mean, I can have as much sex as I want,
- 1:06:36but giving experience is what I want to do. That's
- 1:06:40it. That is it. And ladies and gentlemen, we're
- 1:06:42going to call it a night. As we said before,
- 1:06:45Mr. Mocha has a few things to do, but please,
- 1:06:48please tune in to part two. He will be back in
- 1:06:51the very near future, and we will continue this
- 1:06:53conversation. As for myself, the Sigma male,
- 1:06:57I am calling out all my quality bulls out there.
- 1:07:01You've heard us, all right? We're speaking the
- 1:07:04gospel. For Nephew, Socrates, myself, and Mr.
- 1:07:08Mocha, to all the bulls out there, good night.
- 1:07:10To all my hot wives, ladies out there. good morning
- 1:07:14until we talk again i'll be to say cheers bye
- 1:07:19-bye