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Woman Arrested After Girls’ Bodies Found in Buried Suitcases · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: So I want you to picture something for a second. Just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, your normal daily routine.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Like getting up, getting coffee.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Maybe you're walking your dog, taking the exact same
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  Speaker 1: route you take every single day.
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  Speaker 2: You know, every crack in the sidewalk by heart.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And because of that familiarity, you just sort of
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  Speaker 1: tune out your surroundings, right?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, completely. It's just background noise. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But what happens when that completely familiar routine mundane landscape
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  Speaker 1: is actually hiding something unthinkable.
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  Speaker 2: And that is such a terrifying question to actually stop
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  Speaker 2: and ask yourself.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. And, well, welcome to today's deep dive,
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  Speaker 1: because that is exactly what we are getting into.
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  Speaker 2: We have a lot of ground to cover today.
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  Speaker 1: We really do. We are examining this deeply, deeply disturbing
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  Speaker 1: set of facts coming out of Cleveland, Ohio. Yeah. We've
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  Speaker 1: been looking at police reports, the local press conferences, and
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  Speaker 1: this newly released body cam footage.
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  Speaker 2: Which is just, it's really something to watch. It is.
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  Speaker 1: It's regarding the discovery of two young girls who were
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  Speaker 1: found in partially buried suitcases.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just incredibly dark.
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  Speaker 1: It's extremely dark subject matter, and I want to acknowledge
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  Speaker 1: that right up front. But our goal here, the mission
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  Speaker 1: of this deep dive, isn't just to gawk at a tragedy.
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  Speaker 2: Right, no, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: We want to uncover how something like this happens literally
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  Speaker 1: in plain sight.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's really a study in community awareness, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Community awareness, investigative procedure, and just these massive tragic
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  Speaker 1: blind spots in our social systems.
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  Speaker 2: The systems that are supposed to catch these things. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So, okay, let's unpack this. Let's start with the timeline,
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  Speaker 1: specifically the week leading up to the 911 call.
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  Speaker 2: That whole week is just fascinating from a psychological standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. So there's this man named Philip. And
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  Speaker 1: he's walking his dog in this very residential area near
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  Speaker 1: a school.
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  Speaker 2: The Gin Academy, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Gin Academy, right around East 162nd and Midland.
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  Speaker 2: So this isn't some remote, abandoned lot.
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  Speaker 1: No, not at all. It's a busy neighborhood. And for
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  Speaker 1: about a week, Philip notices his dog keeps stopping and, like,
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  Speaker 1: aggressively sniffing this random mound of dirt.
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  Speaker 2: Just a mound of dirt with a suitcase sticking out
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  Speaker 2: of it. Exactly. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we need to emphasize that the suitcase
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  Speaker 1: was not hidden deep in some woods. It was extremely visible,
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  Speaker 1: just sort of halfway buried right out in the open.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And what's fascinating here is that intersection of human
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  Speaker 2: psychology and our urban routines.
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  Speaker 1: Like why did it just sit there?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Why does a visible suitcase sit in a park
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  Speaker 2: for seven days? It's this concept of urban camouflage.
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  Speaker 1: Urban camouflage. OK, tell me more about that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, basically, our brains are constantly filtering out debris or
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  Speaker 2: trash in public spaces.
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  Speaker 1: Because otherwise we'd just be completely overwhelmed. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. To avoid sensory overload, your brain just says, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's garbage. That's not a threat. Ignore it.
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  Speaker 1: That makes total sense. I mean, think about being on
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  Speaker 1: a subway or something. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: You see an abandoned bag or, I don't know, a
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  Speaker 1: weird box on the side of the road, and you
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  Speaker 1: almost always just assume someone else is going to deal
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  Speaker 1: with it.
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  Speaker 2: Or you just assume it's literal trash.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So is it alarming to you that the perpetrator
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  Speaker 1: didn't even, like, try very hard to hide it?
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  Speaker 2: That's the part that really gets me.
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  Speaker 1: They relied entirely on people just minding their own business.
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  Speaker 2: It's chilling. They weaponized our social conditioning. They knew people
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  Speaker 2: would just put their heads down and keep walking.
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  Speaker 1: But the dog didn't.
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  Speaker 2: No, the dog didn't. And that's crucial.
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  Speaker 1: Because Philip eventually unzipped it, right?
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  Speaker 2: He unzipped the bag, saw a head inside, and immediately
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  Speaker 2: called the police.
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  Speaker 1: But only because the dog forced the issue.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: If it wasn't for the dog's instinct overriding that human apathy,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how much longer would those suitcases have just
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  Speaker 1: sat there?
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  Speaker 2: Weeks. Months. Until some landscaping crew came by, maybe. Humans
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  Speaker 2: are visual, but dogs operate on smell.
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  Speaker 1: They don't care about looking awkward in public.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: The dog isn't worried about being polite. It smells chemical
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  Speaker 1: decomposition and it won't let it go.
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  Speaker 2: Which is just, I mean, it really makes you think
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  Speaker 2: about your own neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure. Like how many weird anomalies do you
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  Speaker 1: walk past every single week without giving them a second thought?
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  Speaker 2: It really makes you question your own perception of your surroundings.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 1: But OK, so Philip's grim curiosity finally breaks that cycle.
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  Speaker 1: He makes the call.
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  Speaker 2: Right. The 911 call.
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  Speaker 1: And this initiates a really chillingly methodical police response.
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  Speaker 2: Methodical is definitely the word for it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's break down that body cam footage. This is from
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  Speaker 1: Monday around 6.30 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: And this footage is just, it's a master class in procedure.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. The first officer arrives, meets Philip, takes
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  Speaker 1: his statement, and then drives around to the back of
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  Speaker 1: the park to locate the suitcase.
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  Speaker 2: And he's totally alone at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And he finds it. But here's the crazy part.
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  Speaker 1: He gets on the radio. And he's just casually noting
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  Speaker 1: that he left his flashlight in the sergeant's office.
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  Speaker 2: Like on the side of a fridge or something. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He's standing inches away from a literal body in a bag,
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  Speaker 1: and he's talking about a misplaced flashlight.
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  Speaker 2: And he explicitly says he's waiting for backup before he
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  Speaker 2: touches the bag. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So as an expert, help me out here, because his
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  Speaker 1: incredibly calm, almost mundane demeanor.
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  Speaker 2: It seems jarring, right?
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  Speaker 1: Totally jarring. Why is he talking about office equipment right now?
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  Speaker 2: Because that protocol, that strict adherence to procedure... It actually
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  Speaker 2: acts as a psychological shield for first responders.
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  Speaker 1: A psychological shield.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. I mean, think about it. If you let
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  Speaker 2: the horror of the situation wash over you, you panic.
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  Speaker 2: You make mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: You lose focus.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Focusing on the mundane, like the flashlight, keeps them grounded. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: it ensures the absolute preservation of a very delicate crime scene.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, but here's where it gets really interesting to me
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  Speaker 1: just as a civilian.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: My instinct, if I see a bag that might have
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  Speaker 1: a person in it, is to tear it open immediately
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  Speaker 1: to see if I can help them.
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  Speaker 2: Of course. That's the human impulse.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So why is it so crucial that the officer just
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  Speaker 1: stopped and waited? Like, what if they were still alive?
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  Speaker 2: It's an incredibly tough call. But from what Philip told him,
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  Speaker 2: the officer is operating under the assumption of a homicide.
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  Speaker 1: Not a rescue. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And in forensics, there's a concept called Locard's exchange principle.
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  Speaker 1: Which means every contact leaves a trace, right?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. If the officer rushes in, tears the bag open,
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  Speaker 2: tramples the dirt.
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  Speaker 1: He destroys the evidence.
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  Speaker 2: You could destroy footprint evidence, touch DNA on the zipper,
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  Speaker 2: all of it. Waiting for backup preserves the chain of custody.
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  Speaker 1: So they can actually prosecute the case later.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. It protects the legal integrity of the discovery.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, so backup finally arrives. They shine a light
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  Speaker 1: on the bag.
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  Speaker 2: And they confirm there's no blood on the outside.
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  Speaker 1: Right, no blood. They open it just enough to confirm
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  Speaker 1: there's a body folded into a fetal position.
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  Speaker 2: Which is just... It's horrific.
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  Speaker 1: But then almost immediately they find a second suitcase.
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  Speaker 2: Just 25 feet away.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, 25 feet away, similarly buried.
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  Speaker 2: And that discovery fundamentally changes everything about this crime scene.
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  Speaker 1: How so? Like, what does that second suitcase mean for
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  Speaker 1: the timeline?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it shifts it from, you know, a singular tragic event,
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  Speaker 2: maybe a terrible accident or a sudden panic, to a
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  Speaker 2: deliberate repeatable act.
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  Speaker 1: A repeatable act. That implies a lot of effort.
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  Speaker 2: A huge amount of effort. The perpetrator had to drag
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  Speaker 2: multiple heavy suitcases into a public park and bury them.
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  Speaker 1: Which means they spent significant time at the scene.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. They were comfortable enough to stay there and manage
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  Speaker 2: the scene, not just dump and run.
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  Speaker 1: That is, I mean, that meticulous preservation of the scene
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  Speaker 1: by the first officer really paid off then.
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  Speaker 2: It absolutely did.
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  Speaker 1: Because identifying the victims inside those suitcases turned out to
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  Speaker 1: be one of the most heartbreaking mysteries of the whole case.
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  Speaker 2: It's the part that really exposes our systemic blind spots.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about that. Yeah. Let's detail what is
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  Speaker 1: actually known about these victims right now.
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  Speaker 2: That's so devastating.
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  Speaker 1: It is. They are two young girls. The medical examiner
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  Speaker 1: estimates one is between 10 1⁄2 and 14 years old.
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  Speaker 2: And the other is between 8 1⁄2 and 13? Right.
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  Speaker 1: And preliminary DNA shows they are half-sisters.
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  Speaker 2: Two young school-aged kids.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. But here is the detail that just stops
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  Speaker 1: you in your tracks.
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  Speaker 2: The missing persons reports.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. The Cleveland police chief confirmed there are no local
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  Speaker 1: missing persons reports matching these girls.
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  Speaker 2: None. Zero.
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  Speaker 1: They are completely unidentified.
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  Speaker 2: Just listed as Jane Doe's.
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  Speaker 1: Which is, if we connect this to the bigger picture,
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  Speaker 1: this is exactly where the system failed.
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  Speaker 2: Completely failed. How do two school-aged children just disappear without
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  Speaker 2: anyone noticing?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I want to push back on. Wait, at
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  Speaker 1: 8 to 14 years old, kids have a social footprint.
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  Speaker 2: You would think so, yes.
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  Speaker 1: They have teachers, they have classmates, maybe neighborhood friends they
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  Speaker 1: play with. Right. How is it functionally possible that no
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  Speaker 1: one called the police looking for them?
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  Speaker 2: It really highlights the vulnerabilities of certain populations. Isolation can
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  Speaker 2: happen even in super densely populated neighborhoods.
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  Speaker 1: Like you don't have to be in a cabin in
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  Speaker 1: the woods to be isolated.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. A family can withdraw a child from school, say
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  Speaker 2: they're homeschooling or moving out of state.
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  Speaker 1: And the school just accepts it.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty much. Once that formal tie is severed, they drop
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  Speaker 2: off the radar of teachers and social workers.
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  Speaker 1: So they just become invisible.
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  Speaker 2: Invisible. And if there's no extended family checking in, there's
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  Speaker 2: no one to file that report.
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  Speaker 1: Which brings up the databases. The police are checking statewide
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  Speaker 1: and federal databases, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the national systems.
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  Speaker 1: If they aren't in those systems, I mean, how long
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  Speaker 1: were they missing before they died?
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  Speaker 2: We just don't know. The medical examiner hasn't released causes
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  Speaker 2: of death or whether they were malnourished yet.
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  Speaker 1: We're just waiting on the full report. But the tragedy
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  Speaker 1: is really twofold here.
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  Speaker 2: It is. It's the loss of life, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Right. The loss of life, but also the fact that
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  Speaker 1: their absence wasn't even felt by the community.
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  Speaker 2: It's a profound social failure.
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  Speaker 1: It reminds you that, you know, you might have neighbors
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  Speaker 1: right now that you haven't seen in weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. We're also disconnected.
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  Speaker 1: It really shows the fragility of our community connections.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 1: But, you know, while the identities of these girls were
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  Speaker 1: this total mystery to the wider world, it turns out
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  Speaker 1: the suspected perpetrator hadn't gone far at all.
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  Speaker 2: This is the part that is just almost impossible to comprehend.
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  Speaker 2: It is wild.
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  Speaker 1: So let's detail this rapid arrest because shortly after the discovery,
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  Speaker 1: a 28-year-old woman named Aaliyah Henderson was arrested.
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  Speaker 2: Facing charges of murder and child endangering. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And this arrest happened while authorities were executing a search
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  Speaker 1: warrant at a home that was right across the street
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  Speaker 1: from the park.
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  Speaker 2: Literally across the street.
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  Speaker 1: Or directly across. And crucially, and we'll get into the
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  Speaker 1: psychology of this in a second, but inside that home,
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  Speaker 1: police found a third child.
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  Speaker 2: A living child.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, a third child who was alive, appeared to be
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  Speaker 1: in good health, and is now in the custody of
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  Speaker 1: the Department of Children and Families.
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  Speaker 2: Which is, I mean, this raises an important question about
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  Speaker 2: the psychology of the suspect's proximity to the crime scene.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because why would you do that?
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  Speaker 2: Why would someone dispose of evidence, especially of this magnitude,
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  Speaker 2: directly across the street from their own house?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, normally you'd think they'd want to get as
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  Speaker 1: far away as possible.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Geographical profiling usually assumes a killer wants distance. Does
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  Speaker 2: this point to a lack of resources, like no car?
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe sheer panic?
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  Speaker 2: It could be panic or a twisted sense of arrogance,
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  Speaker 2: like they thought they were untouchable.
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  Speaker 1: So what does this all mean? It's almost like the
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  Speaker 1: ultimate hiding in plain sight scenario.
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  Speaker 2: It literally is.
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  Speaker 1: We always imagine criminals fleeing into the night, hopping on
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  Speaker 1: a train or something.
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  Speaker 2: Right, disappearing.
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  Speaker 1: But the danger was literally looking out its front window
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  Speaker 1: at the crime scene.
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  Speaker 2: Watching the police investigate from the living room. It's chilling.
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  Speaker 1: But let's dwell on the existence of that third child
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  Speaker 1: for a minute.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, because amidst all this horror, this is the singular
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  Speaker 2: piece of good news.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. A surviving child. How vital is this child's safety
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  Speaker 1: for the investigation?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's paramount. Not just for the child's own sake, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: but potentially for unraveling the whole timeline.
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  Speaker 1: Because they were in the house. Right.
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  Speaker 2: They are a witness. They could hold the key to
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  Speaker 2: understanding what happened in that house, when the girls disappeared, everything.
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  Speaker 1: Assuming they are old enough to speak to investigators.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Forensic interviewing of a surviving sibling is delicate, but
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  Speaker 2: it's crucial.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the shock of finding a suspect living right across
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  Speaker 1: the street, I mean, that sent immediate shockwaves through the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the community was reeling.
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  Speaker 1: Understandably. And it prompted some very different types of responses
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  Speaker 1: from local leadership.
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  Speaker 2: Which is a fascinating dynamic to look at.
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  Speaker 1: Let's contrast the public statements made by the different city
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  Speaker 1: officials in the aftermath.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's look at the police chief first.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So the Cleveland police chief held this very measured press conference.
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  Speaker 1: Extremely measured.
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  Speaker 2: He absolutely refused to speculate on whether the girls were
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  Speaker 2: malnourished or what they were wearing.
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  Speaker 1: He deferred entirely to the medical examiner.
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  Speaker 2: Completely deferred.
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  Speaker 1: Which frustrated some people who wanted answers.
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  Speaker 2: But conversely, you have Councilman Michael Polencek. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: His reaction was just raw anger.
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  Speaker 2: Very raw.
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  Speaker 1: He actually asked in his statement what kind of monster
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  Speaker 1: demon would throw kids away like they're garbage.
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  Speaker 2: Monster demon. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And he demanded justice for the Cullenwood neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have Mayor Justin Bibb.
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  Speaker 1: Right, the mayor. His statement focused entirely on praising the incredible,
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  Speaker 1: tireless work of the homicide detectives.
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  Speaker 2: So you have three very distinct approaches there.
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  Speaker 1: As an expert, how do you analyze these varied responses?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're seeing the different necessary roles of local government
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  Speaker 2: during a crisis.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, break that down for me.
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  Speaker 2: The police. They have to remain objective fact gatherers. They
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  Speaker 2: are protecting the integrity of the impending court case.
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  Speaker 1: Because if the chief starts throwing out theories, it could
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  Speaker 1: ruin the trial.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Especially in Ohio, where arraignments take just one to
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  Speaker 2: three days. The legal clock is ticking.
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  Speaker 1: He can't risk tainting the jury pool.
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  Speaker 2: Right. But meanwhile, the councilman is acting as the emotional
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  Speaker 2: surrogate for the community.
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  Speaker 1: I just found it so striking to hear an elected
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  Speaker 1: official use terms like monster demon in a press release.
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  Speaker 2: It's highly unusual.
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  Speaker 1: It really highlights how deeply this specific crime pierced the
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  Speaker 1: usual political decorum.
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  Speaker 2: Because sterile language wouldn't cut it for a neighborhood that traumatized.
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  Speaker 1: They needed to know their leaders were just as horrified
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  Speaker 1: as they were.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. The councilman validated their grief and outrage while the
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  Speaker 2: mayor focused on stability, reassuring people that the system worked
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  Speaker 2: and caught the person.
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  Speaker 1: But it makes you wonder what justice even looks like
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  Speaker 1: for the Collinwood neighborhood now.
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  Speaker 2: It's a really painful question.
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  Speaker 1: Because an arrest is just the beginning of a very long,
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  Speaker 1: painful legal process.
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  Speaker 2: Years of hearings and trials.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And, you know, for the listener, I'd ask you
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  Speaker 1: to consider how you expect your own local leaders to
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  Speaker 1: react in times of crisis.
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  Speaker 2: It's a tough balance.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want the cold hard facts to protect the
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  Speaker 1: legal case? Or do you want your anger validated by
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  Speaker 1: someone calling the killer a monster?
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  Speaker 2: Most people want both, but you rarely get them from
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  Speaker 2: the same person.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Exactly. So just to sort of briefly recap this incredible,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: tragic journey we've been on today.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot to process.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. We went from a guy walking his dog,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: just trusting his pet's instincts.
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  Speaker 2: Because his own brain had filtered out the danger.
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  Speaker 1: Right. To the methodical, clinical police response that preserved the scene.
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  Speaker 2: Finding not one, but two suitcases.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. The heartbreaking discovery of these two unidentified half-sisters who
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: somehow vanished without a trace.
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  Speaker 2: The invisible children.
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  Speaker 1: And finally, that shocking, rapid arrest of a 28-year-old woman
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  Speaker 1: living directly across the street.
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  Speaker 2: With a third child still inside.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It's a staggering sequence of events.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: It really is.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to leave you, the listener, with a lingering,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: unsettling question based on everything we've looked at today.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: It's the question that really haunts this whole case.
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  Speaker 1: If a dog hadn't repeatedly stopped to sniff a mound
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  Speaker 1: of dirt for a week straight.
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  Speaker 2: If it had just kept walking.
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  Speaker 1: Right. How much longer would these two young girls have
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: remained completely invisible.
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  Speaker 2: To the world? It's terrifying to think about. It is.
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  Speaker 1: And it forces you to ask yourself, who else is
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  Speaker 1: currently invisible in our own communities?
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Living right next door.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Living right across the street, just waiting for someone
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: to finally break the routine and pay attention.
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  Speaker 2: We all need to look a little closer.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: We do. Thank you for joining us for this challenging
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: but really necessary exploration of the facts today. We'll catch
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: you on the next Deep Dive.